GMI edition>Demo daysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66>/v/3's Jamhttps://itch.io/jam/v3jam>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>553480292
Progress:Just found a new name for my game.
imagine if all those youtube devs would actually study and share knowledge instead of small talking about abstract gamedev ideas.sebastian league is really a rare kind of gamedev youtuber.
>>553595193me too, i combined two words like War + Craft.word one is Dungeon; feel free to guess word two. i'll never reveal it.>does generating AI art assets count as gamedev?
>>553595480Dungeon Sex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Oxs8lPT8sxises, how do we stop the AI chuds? they're making games we're making /agdg/ OPs and post about barone eric......
>>553595876Have you tried spamming neoginas?
>>553595876
>>553595685it's not an adult game, but good try
>>553596019Dungeon Studs.
I'll use my v3jam prize to buy my game steam page.
Game development is actually really fun if you stop giving a shit. >Find game that recently sold well>Copy it>Troll people on social media>People shitting on the game don't bother me because I'm not even invested in it myself>Get tons of wishlists
>>553596338ACCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>553596331not if I win
>>553596332This is actually what businessmen tell other people how to succeed in business: Copy an existing product, improve its flaws, and hope it takes off. Repeat until success.
>>553596331based. thats what I used the prize money from winning the semi annual penis inspection day at work.
look through this greentext list >>553596332 and find where the "really fun" mentioned is.... i can't find it, can you?this is exactly why not to use the word "fun" in gamedesign
I need to work on my game but I can't stop watching gang bang porno videos. Right now watching valentina nappi get railed when I should be setting up key rebinding.
>>553596331I'm not sure if Steam credit can be used for that but if you win I'll give you the option of the gift card or $100 towards your steam page whichever or.
>>553596760The trolling people on social media part.
>>553596915>$100 towards your steam pagenta but I would also use it to get a steam page upmy ass isn't buying games these days, too busy making em
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2952950/Nutz_Revenge/this nigga went 18k in debt to make this and he didnt even finish the game yet, do you think he finna recoup his losses or is blud cooked
My next game jam is going to have $500 split between first, second, and third. I'll cut you a check, you can spend it on drugs or hookers or whatever.
>>553596916lowest form of trollingi guess if youre a low-tier inexperienced troll it could give you a little fun maybe
>>553597029Yeah I'll leave it up to the winners choice.
>>553597343not the neo gina, thats my only weakness.....
>>553596676>>553596874
>>553597587tranny nodevs wouldn't know this, where do you think you are?
Indie games use the same tired old tropes endlessly. I can't even differentiate half the side scroller games people make anymore. There's even a indie game on gamepass that almost completely rips off nuclear throne but makes it a half-assed ARPG..The cool looking games always end up just being experimental projects that never turn into games either..Another problem is the games usually don't have a "vision". They don't feel like there is passion behind them, it feels like they create the game mechanics first out of an experimental stage and then they have to be assed to create a world and levels behind it. Every indie game ends up being completely unmemorable and soulless compared to their retro counterparts for this reason..Devs need to learn how make games from the ground up with every aspect already down on paper, with a cohesion between all aspects of the game to form a "whole". Instead I feel like im just playing someones hobby project that they fucked around with until they got it working..
>>553597587Yeah I literally said that. And I said I would offer just a blanket $100 if the winner chooses so they can upload their Steam page please learn to read. >>553596915
>hytale isn't deadtch...
>>553598524You need vision to create Vampire Survivors and Lethal Company. That's why (You) and me haven't done it.
>>553598192Valve did this by only promoting 400 games a year. The lowest common denominator now controls the entire pc gaming industry.
>>553597157Mr. Mayor, do you endorse the v3jam?
Where are the lolidevs?
>>553599595prison
The new Unity input system sucks! What a convulted design. I suspect that key rebinding is still a hassle despite it.
>>553599595Gave up
>>553599746you don't even have unity installed
>>553599909I have unity installed!
>>553600137
>>553599746shut the fuck up FAKE BOCCHI POSTERwe all saw you're post from earlier, lamenting about how you simply cannot stop watching 3D WOMEN get "railed" as you so eloquently put it.Think we have GOLD FISH MEMORY?THINK AGAIN>>553596874GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT YOUR NOT A REAL BOCCHIxisters assemble! get rid of this phoney blaoney!
>>553600284>>>553599746>shut the fuck up FAKE BOCCHI POSTER>we all saw you're post from earlier, lamenting about how you simply cannot stop watching 3D WOMEN get "railed" as you so eloquently put it.>Think we have GOLD FISH MEMORY?>THINK AGAIN>>>553596874>GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT YOUR NOT A REAL BOCCHI>xisters assemble! get rid of this phoney blaoney!
why do you also have to ruin bocchiposting for me?
good thread so far but could use more neo 'ginas
>>553601381
>>553601754BASED
>/v/3 in the OPWhy
i need to give up
>>553597134Even a game like Samurado has competition these days
>>553602180It's betz's world and we're all just living in it
>>553603201>samurai avocadokill me if I ever make anything this uninspired
>>553603484>this uninspiredYou mean this reddit
>>553603628one in the same
>>553603201So what? Sasquatch B didn't put all of his eggs in the Samurado basket. He has Cropolution and Veil of Maia to fall back on.
my game doesn't have a visioni just make whatever sounds fun at any given point in timei embrace the slop
>>553602180why not? it's a game jam and is agdg related
>>553603804>i embrace the slophttps://vocaroo.com/1imNPpO1Cbd0
>>553603804Slop requires more vision than art.
deleted my entire project then restored it from the recycle bin an hour later
Was Super Mario Bros. an indie game?
>>553606356>Was Super Mario Bros. an indie game?
>>553595876In a way I respect them going all in on ai and proudly advertising it, but they're sitting at mixed reviews on the demo.At this same time, any press is good press. I'm sure without the ai marketing they'd have no plays.
>>553603804Me too but that's what makes my game soul, not slop.
>>553597157If I win I will use it to pay for a Steam page for my game.
>>553539376lore on marmoreal leaving the thread?
>>553607639xe got groomed by the 'cord
Is there a list of festivals and events to apply to? Somewhere with a calendar of all of them.
>>553607639dis is why me glad me left agdg heheh. hehhe!!
3 update per second in this video, with a speed of 3 units/updatethere was a tricky bug when sliding into a ramp at a speed higher than 1everything gets quantized down to the integer grid (the point of this project)sometimes the true solution to move-and-slide was at a fractional place, and sometimes the closest integer place would be inside the wall.Wrote this thing that carefully searches for a valid integer velocity that doesn't clip into a wall by slowly shrinking a vector, until the nearest integer-truncation is outside a wall, or it just hits 0, 0
What the fuck is this Mexican ass shit
>>553607960I dont think so. Someone should create one.
>>553607960>>553608624I asked chatgpt and it showed me this.https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/upcoming_events
>>553595047buy an ad
https://github.com/kaansenol5/VibeOS
>I asked chatgpt
>>553599746Are you the same anon who was researching a game? If so, glad to see you got back to deving
>>553609048So?
>>553599746can one of these engine creators make a feature where you "add key rebinding menu" and then your game has a UI element that is a key rebinding menuwhoever does it first, godot/unreal/unity/whatever, would surely take over the industry instantly
>>553609048>nooo you can't use AI I am the cancerous greentext poster haha
>>553609607>>nooo you can't use AI I am the cancerous greentext poster haha
You are babysitting the Powerpuff Girls. You have a chance to show them your game. What will they think of it?
>>553609747
>>553608773Unfortunately that only has the ones run by valve themselves, not all the others.
>>553610776>not all the othersgabencunt only shows "the other ones" to games that already make him billions. all thanks to their half-assed caveman approach of "if it sells well then we'll show it to everyone"
1-800-R-U-DEVIN
>>553611635>coloured map with no legend explaining the coloursReal low IQ posting hours here.
If you want to get away with using AI all you have to do is make a fake fiverr page and credit that fake person. If people call you out, just say you didn't know.
Proggy:Followed a tutorial and set up my scene to look better. Well it's progress at least.>tfw been gone for a while devving>tfw this thread has moved at a snails paceAm I really gonna have to join the aggy daggy discord? Is shitposting allowed?
>>553612476Only shitposting approved by the mods
>>553597134Better looking than Sasquatch B's game but I doubt it'll sell well.>>553603201I wish my rivals games were as low quality as Sasquatch B's avocado game.>>553603751Neither of those are gmi quality
>>553612038>If you want to get away with using AI all you have to do is make a fake fiverr page and credit that fake person. If people call you out, just say you didn't know.
>>553596332Already ahead of you>The Witness vs The Looker>Order of the Sinking Star vs (my game here)Jon is gonna blow a gasket when he see's mine for $1.99 made in Unreal with a bunch of free assets Tim gave me for years.
>dev stops using 4chan to post progress after years of usage>immediately proceeds to create a hit game
Very little Progress today, but I visualized the BSP Tree of a sample Level a bit, in order to find some more Issues to fix up, Triangles that lie coplanar to the splitting Plane are now properly pushed into their Children, and Tree generation stops earlier then before, resulting in a lot less Leafs, with a lot less singular Triangles in them. Now I just need some more cleanup, a few Triangles are flipped the wrong Way around, and some Vertices and triangles are doubled up and need to be removed. And the BSP Tree needs to be expanded on generation so I can utilize the same algorithm to export the rendering BSP and Collision BSP.After that I can finally move on to PVS calculations and pushing this into the Engine I think.Pic related, all the currently still existing Geometry, the splitting Planes and the "connected" Level, and the Level split into Leafs for visualization purposes.How's your Progress going AGDG?
>>553613185>my game hereStart devving Chaos of the Rising Sun right now
>>553613185I already beat him to it. Bing Trine 4.
>>553613329Pink Turtle 2 looking good
>>553613626Heh.
zim.exe
>>553613329When will you submit to Demo Day?Why a custom engine instead of Unity/Unreal?
>tfw Trine 4, a puzzle game, looks moreinteresting then Jon's puzzle game>tfw Trine 4 doesn't even have 3000 reviews on Steam>tfw Trine 4 is $29.99Is there a polymarket bet on whether Jon's game will make the full $27m back? I really doubt it will. Will Blow even be rich anymore or am I gonna walk into a McDonalds to order some slop to eat while I dev only to see Jon behind the counter?
>>553614086>When will you submit to Demo Day?As soon as I have something to actually Test. I can submit a spinning Suzanne at the moment, but that's not interesting to play.>Why a custom EngineIt's a lot more Fun for me, and the resulting Games are less of a Ressource drain, as compared to using Unreal for Games looking like Thief.
>it doesn't work
>>553614248by definition, you have no taste if you can't tell the difference between a high quality puzzle game and a low quality one
>>553595047Zukowksi created a timeboxing / pomodoro video to get gamedevs to lock in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go_tYAMs7JUHe continues to be the only gamedev "eceleb" to actively tell people to unsubscribe from his youtube (45:15)https://youtu.be/faauemp0YIA&t=2715
>>553615705He seems clever and wise. I'll be sure to follow his marketing advice once my game gets to that stage.
A game about hammers.
I don't think anons are going to post progress here for a while.
>>553616498Mission accomplished. If God didn't grant little Joshua the IQ to make video games, nobody should be allowed to make video games.
>>553616498Nah it's fine. In the previous thread people were still posting progress somewhat frequently.If you're talking about the gore, it doesn't matter.
Is it a bad idea to put sex scenes in a gimmicky VN/dating sim? I feel like the audience for those types of games is mainly teenagers and sexually repressed zoomers.
I had a six hour meeting with my artist today, where we went over the entirety of the storyline that is yet to come.
>>553617543>owning the trannies by crippling the one (1) singular gamedev community that isn't run by them
>>553617486AI can not reach my artist's level of quality and attention to detail. Besides, the [AI] tag is suicide for porn games that don't cater to normoids.
>>553617486Any AIs good for generating pixel art characters?
please behave
You don't know how to use AI Joshua. Stop pretending.
>>553618502>tell people "just use AI">have nothing else to offer anybody literally telling them just to ask AI how to use AIYou're worthless lmao. You, Josh, it doesn't matter who it is. Just another AI tard who literally has no idea what they're even doing here. That's why you have no game.
anyone wanna try tranny software i wrote
You don't know how to use AI Pedro. Stop pretending.
I need AI game testers.
AI xister meltie hours
>>553617782
>>553617782I wish I could draw this good. Imagine having this level of artistic talent. I would finally be able to succeed at gamedev!
>it works
>>553617782How does one learn to draw this good?
>>553617249basedI wish my artists wouldn't take 0.5 ~ 1.5 years to finish every task I give them but it's fine because I can do the rest of the art myself
>>553615705I can't lock in bro I literally give up quickly.>work on something small>it works!>momoi_cheering.gif>go do something else>work on something big>it doesnt work>momoi_swinging.gifAs you could imagine I am not a fast developer.
>>553617486>>553617782>AI xister destroyed yet againlol
>>553622450Autism and passion. My artist specifically specializes in robots (and to a lesser degree, catfighting).>>553622272>I wish I could draw this good.I wish I could draw at all... I can do some nice image editing, though.
>>553622867>I wish I could draw at allIf you saw my art you'd realize this low of a level in art doesn't mean much. I only get a few pieces that come out great.>image editingI can do that too but it's just not the same as being able to drawing masterwork tier pieces of art for an entire game.
>>553613236i still remember people in this thread calling him a retard for abandoning rocket sword desu. Turns out they were completely wrong and he was 100% right to abandon it.
>>553613236>dev panders to the normies and succeeds gee i wonder why
i will never trust kitadevs again
have to delay doing something to wesnday since i have to help family, actually better paced this way
>>553625126
I will do something for teh /v/3 jammy
>>553562764Yeah i did but i got runtime errors after building in distrobox ubuntu under cachyos so im just looking at the windows version so far
>>553595047Honest question: if reaching the 10 reviews gives such important boost on steam, why shouldn't small devs just buy those reviews from fiverr? Isn't that a better ROI than trying ads, if we are talking about low investments of money.
>>553626373If they get reported then they are banned from steam
>>>/wsg/6071363Some people told me they actually like the attack animations in this game mode. Obviously, I'll need to replace the programmer art with proper sprites at some point, but maybe I could keep the animations themselves. I just hope that ugly animation/pretty sprite is as appealing as ugly animation/ugly sprite.
>>553627179find new friends
>>55362637310 reviews is a myth. Only revenue matters. It's currently something like $1k-2k revenue within the first few hours of release to get onto N&T. Not a single one of those purchases need to leave a review.
>>553627179They were just being polite. Ugly animations with good art is also going to look just as bad if not worse unless it's done properly.It ironically takes a lot of animation work to make something that looks appealingly low effort.
Where can I go to find a 115+ IQ female (XX chromosomes) to become creative director for our game?
>>553628775
This girl played Maid Cafe Coop on singleplayer for almost 4 hours. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YTolxqy8uBs# Anons game has so much gmi energy lads
>>553627179The simple animations are funny. Keep them in as a joke, it fits.
>>553628864I wish I had this
>>553627179Humour is good but fix the text scrolling.
>>553628796Is that too much to ask for?
>>553625786Me too I joineded. It's easy to overlook it being busy on the main game but I'm glad I joined it because when the time comes, this will pretty much be the only 4chan gamejam I can remember and that's kind of a big deal and I want to be part of it.
>>553628864Our guy is gonna make itJust make the graphics nicer and cuter and it's gonna happen
>>553627409Good info.
>>553628864What the. That screenshot the cafe looks really good, better than in the trailer?
when i release my innovative indie hit game i will impress industry veterans. they'll be so desperate for me to join their studio that i'll have to work part time at 3 studios at least.
>>553628864>over 3 hours of gameplayImpressive.
>>553628775>DEI
>try making my own We Are Finally Cowboys>https://vocaroo.com/1cGtZwQolIYZclose enough
>>553627179the art is soul, like an old flash game.You're not making Final Fantasy 18 ffs.
>>553625126>kitadevsNo such thing
>Napped through the 800th AI/Trannyspammer attackIt pays off to be lazy sometimes
>>553632940She's more qualified to be on my staff than you will ever be, faggot.
I feel sad, bros. I don't feel like working on my game.
>>553627409This. I'm still surprised anons think 10 reviews = get noticed. It's not, it's more like 10 reviews worth of sales wherein 10 reviews equates to 400 sales. You're not uplifting any anons game here by swarming in and giving him 10 reviews in the first hour. Valve 100% suspects the dev has friends/paying others to prop it up when he's got 10 reviews and like 30 sales. I suspect they have something on their backend that purposefully hides games that do this which makes me believe Marmoreal may have gotten hidden as retaliation for trying to cheat the system.
Maybe be a bit too menacing...
>>553636778>fatfuck gabencunt is actually an incel circle oppHow deep does the rabbithole go...?
>>553636235sorry to say this, but I'm vastly overqualified
>>553632958sounds good. good job
>>553626373I guess it works with friends you know but I wouldn't buy reviews from random people that can just report the game for the lolz. also buying such a small number of reviews seems like a desperate attempt to save a shit game that is doomed no matter what
>>553626373You're so right anon, nobody has ever tried lying and scamming the system before. You're so smart. They should give you a medal for that.
>>553627096They can't realistically punish you for botting a single game. Otherwise you could just bot reviews on random games and get them delisted. There's no way for valve to know the developer isn't the one botting unless its a pattern with multiple games.
>>553639250And if people think someone would never spend that much money to spite another developer remember that time Crumble bought ads just to shit on someone's game.
>introduce a bug>fix itdoes this count as progress?
>>553640654now you learnt that making bugs is bad, so stop that
>>553636923cute dog plant
>>553642009
>>553642450Don't post stuff like that.
ngmi people search for a pre-made engine to use to (re-)create a pre-made game templategmi people try to create a 3D-Engine, to later create some mechanics that work with that engine wellhyperboreans create mechanics first and then create a graphics engine that is capable of displaying EXACTly what is fitting for the game, instead of attempting another shovelware-3d-engine-for-noobs-creationagree?or disagree?also AI is not even ngmi. Ai is lolcow-tier
>>553642798gmi people make a good fun game that people want to play
>>553642653why?
>>553636923ELF SEXO
>>553643053gmi dont do "fun"gmi do things that are valuableif "fun" is valuable, in some cases...but it is not the focus to be someone who plays and predates on humans desires. The goal is to create something good, but "value" can also be taken by creating something non-good, and "tricking" other people into giving you good things in exchangeso, "good fun game"- "good"- yes. "fun" "game"- not often enough, in theory.In practice... "gmi people- if not gmi corporations but gmi People", then it is niche fun. or some certain thing. either way, the focus is not on actual fun. fun comes from desire. and good, "valuable" things are desirable. "fake fun" is not the right way, and knowing the "people" here on 4chan, "fun" means "fake fun" for them
>>553643371maybe you should try "making" a "game"
Latest Bedacast recordings, where we go over concept artwork and story musings with our community.https://bedabots.com/video/bedacast-090126-1.mp4https://bedabots.com/video/bedacast-090126-2.mp4The concept art itself:https://litter.catbox.moe/dyq8m9qailyuminu.jpgAre you engaged with the community surrounding your videogame?
>post about your game somewhere>instantly feel like a piece of shit shillHoly fuck I miss being young and stupid on the internet. I'm such a pussy now.
>>553644729post your game
>>553644823
>>553595047>thread made 10 hours ago>less than 200 postsagdg really is dying...
>>553646892Its being killed.
>>553646892The same thing happened in /v/ where threads were being made and dragging for 50 hours because nobody gave a shit anymore. If it weren't for fygoon bumping it to keep it alive every thread would have died with like 30 posts. Instead of taking this a a hint they and whoever else continue to make the threads everyday. Whereas back when /v/ threads were still cool they would hit 400 posts in 21 hours.
>>553646892We are too busy making progress.
>>553646892Rip in piss
>>553646892The amount of reasons to participate in /agdg/ dwindles with each passing day
Just having one of those days where I'm taking a good hard look at it all. I could be making educational software. Instead I want to create an entire worthwhile game which I have to then market myself to an audience who as far as I can tell hardly even plays videogames anymore. But I know that's not true, it's just the industry jitters speaking. This "hobby".
Should take the Dano approach where you scream into a microphone about each step you're taking to make a quirk chungus prototype about funny thing. Then nobody even has to play your stupid game and you'll get paid for making it.I'm too unc. It's UNCLEOVER.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGsumB2sP38
>>553627179Somebody told me that you are so stupid but i didnt believe them but now i believe them
I think maybe the best thing for me right now is to just look forward to launching and finishing my long term game. I'm probably going to massively cut the scope and then wrap it up and publish. I know someone will think I'm throwing away a possible GMI game by doing that but like honestly who cares.
>>553646892Too many fucking mentally ill turdies hoping to get rich quick without putting in any effort. They have to come here and shit this place up out of jealousy I assume. Cris and even fagoon were tolerable because they'd at least tried to make games but this new wave of shitposting turds can't even do that. They just spam posts about AI then sperg out when people tell them to fuck off. I fucking hate the modern internet.
>>553648798why do autists never finish things?
>>553646892>completely ignores the AI and tranny spam>>553648036>brings fagoon out of nowhere>fagoonmore like dragon khan wanna be
>>553649514Oh and there's a 3d model gen website that is blatantly advertising on /v/. You know which one. Their ads on plebbit and xitter are almost word for word the same posts you see in the >AI can now generate models, why aren't you making your dream game?threads that pop up on /v/ once a week. So on top of lazy retards we also have corporations astroturfing and shitting everything up.
>fygoon>daily /v/ threads>AI psychosis victimsThat's all it took to ruin gamedev on 4chan.
>AI tard with a "just use AI" attack at the heart of gamedev>died with 3 posts>>>/v/730704185GOODThese things are literally trying to multiply by dragging other nodevs in with them.
>>553650161wtf I posted about it the exact same time you mentioned it >>553650561
>>553646892the entire weekend agdg was unbearable just because of the trannyspammer
/agdg/ has fallen...
>>553650561>>553650887That's crazy. I didn't even realize there was another one of those threads today.
>>553649514It peaked just before 'goon. 'goon marked the downfall, but wasn't the downfall itself, the real downfall is actually the ritualposting ideaguys who never stop making up shit about games they're never going to make.At least the old ideaguys were funny. The new ideaguys are just miserable.If you want to know the reason why I, personally don't post much anymore? I'm too far along in development, after having posted to demodays for years.
>>553650561>by dragging other nodevs in with themthat's exactly the point of all that propaganda, convincing nodevs to pay for that crapif you go to an organic AI general such as >>>/g/107843900 you won't find comments like>AI can do just about everything for youthere are only anons doing their shit and not giving a fuck
>>553651879i look like this
>>553652872pedotroon...
Gotten further working on my VN. Thanks for reading. Yes, I know my GUI is shit. It's just a test run in figuring out how to actually change it.
>renpy you will never be a gamedev
Hoping to finish the new minigame soon. Got inspired by the big ol' heads of Nemrut.
>>553653334Honestly, more of a gamedev than any of the engine(no)devs here.
>ancient stone heads of Mount Nemrut you will never be a gamedev
>>553654260But I made a game!
>>553653334That's fine, anon. I'm only doing this as a hobby!
>>553654156enginedevs are cultivating a skill and actually creating something, even if it never sees release ren'py sloppers are tossing AI images into a powerpoint
>>553653109
I killed it. I killed /agdg/. I helped some of the worst schizos of recent fester here.Why, you ask? Well, it's my revenge for /agdg/ turning on me, when my game released, instead of supporting me, helping me, playing the game, you all instead shitted on me and my game. You all lied to me. So now, this is my retaliation for your insolence.
>>553655176shut it, marmo
>>553655176Huh?
>>553655226I'm not Marmo. Though I am avenging him as well.
>>553655176keep crying
Why hasn't anyone made Vampire Survivors, but with hot chicks?
I'll definitely have a demo ready for this dd. I know I said that about the last three dds, but this time will be different. You'll see.
>>553650161>Oh and there's a 3d model gen website that is blatantly advertising on /v/. You know which oneI don't. Does it work? If it does can you tell me what it is or what to Google?When I mean whether it works I'm asking whether it creates models you could actually use in games, rather than some 1 million poly monstrosity.
>>553655569I guarantee you there are hundreds of these on itch
>>553654529And they're writing a story, which is a far more relevant gamedev skill.
>>553636923can I kiss it pleaseI want to make out with it
Yesterday I was planning on doing art, but I first wanted to check whether some important feature I was planning was even viable and I ended up implementing half of it. That's how it often is, something that looks complex turns out to be easy while some seemingly tiny bug eats up weeks of your time.Not even bananas for dessert today. Tomorrow I'll probably be eating turnips the way I'm going. Today I'll be working on art. Remember, make it good enough but no better because time is short.
>>553655680Are there? Because all I ever seem to find on itch are unfinished games
>>553655176the bucket just got 10 feet taller
>>553655694But why...?
>>553655612>agdg is one personnot me, I'm having fun making the AI sisters seethe, pretty much every post that I make on purpose disappoint them and then the melties start
>>553655893I just woke up at 11 pm and masturbated to the idea of licking a monster's tongue.
>>553655680>>553655569You know what? Fuck it. I'll make this myself tomorrow. People keep saying how amazing AI is so I'll find out. But tomorrow. Not today. Surely.
>>553655953
>>553656090I imagined being the little spoon, totally encapsulated by her body, wrapped by her wings, with her giant head upside down on my chest, her tongue blepping out a bit, and me sleeping with my face pressed against her tongue, licking occasionally. Then I cummed.
>>553656054>So you're helping me contribute to the death of /agdg/. Good.do you even know why they get mad in the first place?
>>553654529Sorry but a VN that sees release is objectively more of a game than an incomplete engine that never releases a game
>>553656268
Does this feel too bouncy?It's for an idle-widget style game, you aren't controlling the player.
aispammer, trannyspammer, quotetard... the ultimate crabs
>>553656908yes, try to keep the head from moving too much up and down
>>553656809A VN is simply not a game If your goal is to make a bicycle, the man who welds a frame together but never gets around to putting wheels on it is closer than the man who builds a complete pair of roller skates
What's your biggest gamedev regret bros?>Working on porn game where you run a PMC that hunts sexy cryptids >Got blackpilled because of stable diffusion and Novel AI and I actually thought it was over for porn games>Made a VR game instead>It flopped
>>553656908Bounciness is good for stylized toon graphics so I'd say it's good as is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yioARnF8G9g
>>553657184>A VN is simply not a gameAny interactive entertainment is a game. It's why it's being listed as a game on Steam. Your opinion doesn't matter.
>>553657304My biggest gamedev regret is not scrambling to get hired by a gamedev studio after my successful first game. I could have turned that fluke into $100k+/year employment. Instead I was like the line can only go up from here because of experience and fanbase. What a fool I was
>>553657304not starting earlier
>>553657453>the DVD chapter select menu is a game retard
>>553655893he looks like he licks elf cunny
>>553657568nothing is 100% accurate, not even atomic clocks.
>>553657629>is entertained by menus>calls others retardok
>>553657652What a completely useless post
>>553657801>is entertained by "visual novels""dude what if books but really gay and poorly-written and I have to press a space bar after every single line"at least you get to watch a movie when you select something in a DVD menu
>>553657053>>553657354Thank you,I toned down the bobbing up and down as well as the 2nd spine bone moving back and forth.It looked a bit out of place with the other animations.
Notch is so based bros.
>>553658656notch is a racist and therefore inherently evil
>>553657998>What a completely useless post
>>553658656>a programmer doesn't want others to use AI for programming>an artist doesn't want others to use AI for art>a writer doesn't want others to use AI for writing>a doctor doesn't want others to take medical advice from AIhmm maybe it's a case of this last one but maybe not. how to tell the difference?
>>553651879Cute, wish I was this skilled.>>553655750>Remember, make it good enough but no better because time is shortUgghh I know, I know -_- I just did a bunch of stuff, like tiny busy work that was needed. But I suspect I'm go astray on the original intent of all this. Yummy looking fruit btw.
>>5536573041. Ever starting gamedev2. Not starting gamedev before 20103. Wasting like 6 years on a NGMI game.>>553657538NTA but lol that was possible considering I know a guy who hired onto a triple A company with an incomplete roguelike about 15 years ago. I doubt that is possible anymore.
>>553657304My only regret is not doing it sooner.but I did it just in time to learn enough that by the time the AI demon became popular, I wasn't lured in by false promises of success and could work on my own.
>>553658656>dont use AI for programmingyeah i hate it when my AI starts talking about american politics
I need an abstract way to draw very very small buildings that are vert far away that will still make them look larger than large buildings very far away. Any ideas?tl;dr I goofed it by not planning properly and drawing the large city first, using the standard small rectangles approach, so I now don't know how to draw the equally distant village.
my game is such a genius idea I wish I wasn't such a brainlet and could make it
>>553653168AI doubters our response?
>>553660873actually schizophrenic post, wtf does this mean? how about you make the small buildings the size you want them to be? if that (somehow) isn't possible then prepare to learn about transforms and hack the rendering pipeline or something idk
>>553661091>AI doubters our response?
>>553660873>look largerSmaller. Sorry this post is retarded and that I am retarded. Get enough sleep, kids.
>reach out to 9 different artists with decent portfolios for a steam capsule>most don't respond>the first one is extremely cheap so I decide to get that plus another one from another artist>both turn out shitwhat do I do now
>>553661110I did not sleep enough and developed schizophrenia I'M SORRY OK I'M ON MY NICK LAND ARC UPPERS ARE TOO GOOD
>>553661168capsule artists are the most jewish people involved in gamedev>oy vey pay me $500 for a tiny tiny piece of art and I will use my jewish tricks to make sure more goyim click on it than if you were to make it yourselfdon't fall for it. Learn art and make your own capsule.
>>553661262I can do it, but now I'm considering getting just the logo made and I'll do everything else.
>>553652783Yep. Those pushing AI are probably funded by AI companies trying to addict people so as to push their own metrics up for more financing. And of course cult like mentality type people who attach themselves to it because "I need to be a part of something bigger than myself anything except religion tho!"AI can be useful but it is nowhere near as useful as those with the cult like mentality over it. There is just no way it can make me consistent usable art for a full game. If I tried making a game of that size there would just be too many issues with the game's art consistency onoy to get worse when it comes to animating every single thing needing an animation. And then there's code, anything too complex and it just doesn't quite get it done right only for it lead you in a pointless trail of failing to fix the issue. Nah no thanks I can just pay an artist to make my art for me rather than get duped into spending thousands on AI art and only have a few pieces because I wasted $200 trying to gen one piece of art over and over with random issues in it. As for code I'd probably have better luck taking anything too complex from someone posting their code online or just paying someone to do that one specific set of code I can't. Much easier this way. But yeah I've seen the AI art general before, it can be neat. But for actual gamedev, it's too limited and just looks like a gamification of how it works in an attempt to get people to just keep trying cause it looks so close to getting what you want out of it.
>grassfag is gummy from scriptcraft and felmyst
>>553660873do not put yourself into difficult situations
>>553661709r-really? his game is popping off...
>>553661709GEKKK is this true?
>>553661709>>553661854>>553661882samefagging discordnigger, kys
I used to be really against AI but a good friend of mine showed me that you can use AI coding assistants to get quite far, if you then know to fix things by hand. That said, I absolutely do think that making yourself a company's slave for life is a bad idea. If you can't stand on your on two feet, when everyone is like you, the company will just soak up all the profit it can and you will be left effectively making minimum wage. Even if AI does everything promised, if you don't control the model, you're signing up to be cattle!I'm less certain about art, since there are local models. That said, I've chosen to draw myself, because for whatever reason, I feel like the results feel better. Call it a cope if you want, but I really do feel like there's something there. Maybe it's how I try and fail to draw things, and through that process, accidentally stumble upon new ways to draw them. Maybe it's the line-level control, or being able to tune color intelligently across sprites to make sure that enemies that show up in a particular environment complement it. Maybe it's the symbolism in character design.I'm sure you can use an AI for all of that to some degree, but it's actually hard work! So much so that just drawing the thing might be easier. That said, I could be wrong.
>>553661709>>553661854>>553661882>>553661970Gummy is a scumbag who samefags and hires bot, everyone knows this. I got abused by him and his bots years ago
>>553661662>consistent usable art for a full gameAs the guy who is making a VN with strictly AI art, I CAN vouch for this statement. There will always be a tiny bit of inconsistency with the art. Doubly so for minor features like piercings or emblem designs (pic rel). The only way for me to avoid that is to either simplify a character's design, or to manually edit my art.
>>553662034But he's not grassfag, right? I can't remember what his grass tiles looked like...Dreadmyst looks different than the grass tiles that I remember, though. Surely it cannot be. But I want it to be. Because it would be funny.
>AI code >AI graphics >AI writing at this point, why even bother? you're not making a game, the AI is if you just want to play games, you can just buy them, no need to waste time prompting shit and dumping it in to godot
>>553661662>get duped into spending thousands on AI art and only have a few pieces because I wasted $200 trying to gen one piece of art over and over with random issues in itOr just spend $800 on a 5070ti and gen locally!
>>553662103she cut
>>553661168The expensive ones arent much better ime. You've seen Alchemickal devs capsule right? Looks good right? Imagine something worse while they charge you $1000 for it.
Anytime I get frustrated or discouraged and wanna quit, I think about my future wife and how she will require of me to be a gamedev millionaire.
>>553662756>wifeno tail, no marriage
Progress: Started working on an isometric harvest moon in Bevy to learn Rust this week.Today, got nearest neighbor cell selection working.
>>553662824Uh hello based department? Yeah you're gonna want to see this
capsule art is absurdly overhyped, just put your logo over any half-decent existing background (title screen, loading screen, etc) and call it a day
>>553662916zukk says I need it, though
>>553662843Arc Raiders is beloved. As one of the anti-AI people above, I think you'll do fine. Would it be better to have a human actor? Probably. They know stuff you don't through experience. If you can't afford them, though, no big deal.
>>553662916It's one of those things that can make your game sink or swim. Rimworld had a big following years before it even came to Steam, so it didn't have to rely on capsule art to gain attention.
>>553662756>Anytime I get frustrated or discouraged and wanna quit, I think about my future wife and how she will require of me to be a gamedev millionaire.
>>553662916a difference between a good and bad capsule could be like 30-40% difference in sales, but that's the kind of thing you worry about when your game starts getting a few hundred wishlists a day consistently.
>>553662756based
I'm broke as shit with no job.No bed in my apartment, I sleep on the floor.No girlfriend, no social life. But god I fucking love making video games.
>>553663109>It's one of those things that can make your game sink or swim.absolutely not. it's a multiplier of your success. but if you're making a 50 review game, it's not worth investing too much into a capsule.
>>553662916rimchads we keep winning
>>553663347>I'm broke as shit with no job.>No girlfriend>But god I fucking love making video games.Same...
>>553663358I'd rather take 100 reviews than 50 reviews. Don't spend half of your budget into it, but it's not something you can just ignore either.
>>553663109look at the capsule for any successful indie. Stardew is just the logo over some nicely arranged game assets. Same for Factorio. Undertale's is literally just the word "Undertale" on a black background. The average dev is spending 800 bucks on a capsule for a couple hundred reviews, just to get mogged by some ugly shit like this. If your game is good, people will search for it. If the theme is interesting, it can be easily conveyed with a name and some basic background art. If you're relying on people being impressed by the quality of the capsule art to sell your game, you've already lost.
>>553662103Yeah that's a big gripe I have with it. I've seen neat AI art before but for a game it is simply way too big of a hassle. I am not an artist, I don't want to suddenly get saddled with fixing every single imprefection the AI did. I never got too deep on the art side so idk how good the free models are. For code it can at least do simple stuff but the moment it gets difficult it can just start messing up to the point I could be better off finding someone posting their code online and just outright copying and pasting it into my game with better success
>>553663675Those games are all pre-algorithm change.
>>553663874>pre-algorithm change.2021, that's AFTER the algorithm change.
Robloxcunt has took his pay...- Gabencunt
Fygoon, how many posts in this thread did you make? Please be honest.
>>553661986There are times it does speed you up, but the increase is so marginal compared to the downside that it's not worth risking that trap of thinking that AI is helping when it isn't.I had a friend who supported AI for specific tasks that are tedious but when I think about it, those are usually tasks that can be automated anyway, like a template for character animations.
>>553664108I love kids' gambling platforms!
>>553595047>nortubel is making gross porn againsigh
>>553663358>but if you're making a 50 review gamebut I'm making a 5000 review game
>>553662756
>>553664108>concurrent usersAll this says is that Roblox has more users in one particular region than Steam.
>>553666049then by all means invest in capsule art and localization and it'll pay off.
>>553666725My game also requires a live performed soundtrack and mocap acting. Gotta spend money to make money!
>>553613854>zimis a virus
>>553664862>>nortubel is making gross porn againanother one falls victim to gooning and becomes a nodevnortubro do you take requests
>>553655176shut it trainwiz
>>553655176shut it omnigondev
>>553655176shut it, roody2ddev
>>553668438at least tell me, or I'll do you a favor and not post in this thread for at least 12 hours
>>553668462Shut it Osur
i think there's a halo effect with popular games. they seem better than they are because of their popularity and the surrounding communities, youtubers etc.i think this is important to notice, because you cannot compare your game to others, when this psychological effect is distorting reality.you need to see games raw for what they are, more from a technical perspective. without the halo effect.
>>553668804True. I had some guy on /v/ tell me that the Balatro title theme was the best song of the year for him and how he knew he was going to play a superbly crafted game just from that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_EVa7P9w-sI mean it's not bad but I definitely think it was a bit of a stretch and tried to explain that his hundreds of hours in Balatro might have affected him, but he wouldn't listen.
https://youtu.be/mrJ7OPHiAPwgrindslop is the foundation
I remember this game being posted here some 2 years ago, and thinking "holy shit the art is great this is gonna sell a lot", and it released last year, and it's not a complete flop but I do feel like the sales are a bit lackluster. Makes me think maybe I should really just focus more on gameplay instead of wasting all that time on art.
>>553669346>boring gameplay >boring theme >selling point is overdone lowpoly cel-shaded "anime inspired" art style never stood a chance
>>553669346so that's where this is from
>>553668804100% true, which is also why it's so hard for games to succeed if they had a bad launchpeople see a game with less than 10 reviews and assume it failed because it's badoftentimes, they are incorrectthe game failed because the developer severely overestimated the organic exposure their game would receive purely from existing on steamvalve has kept the requirement of external initial promotion as a subtle secret for indies, letting people shadow drop games in hopes that enough people will play it for it to blow up, but this never happensyou must generate at least $10,000 of gross revenue within a 14 day period, at any point during your games existence on steam, for valve to consider it a "real" game and begin promoting itwe see many games flop because the developer assumed they would enjoy fair discoverability, drop their game, receive low reviews, and then cement their game as a failure due to potential buyers assuming it's bad because of its low review countvery brutal cyclethe meta promo strat is to spam promotional content on youtube shorts, farm enough wishlists to estimate that 10k in 14 day revenue period, and then hope your game is actually good enough to continue gaining momentum on steam once it experiences real algorithmic promotion
it's brutal, the amount of devs who make decent games that severely underperform because they naively assumed valve would give them a fair chancesorry, friendyou didn't spend 6 months farming wishlists before release, and 2 months sending free copies to content creators, and for that reason, your game will effectively remain shadowbanned on steam until something big happens and people start deliberately searching for it and buying itbrutalit almost makes me wonder, surely the number of neetdevs who hoped they could make a game, release it, make money, and improve their lives, who then brutally flopped because they weren't aware of how steam's promotion system works, and then eventually committed suicide because they had nothing left, is greater than zerothere is at least one person who matches this criteriablood is on valve's hands for not providing more clarity on how organic game discovery works on steam
>>553668895WHERE YOU HID THE BODIES!?!
>>553670256>>553669956>>553668804Spambot
Debugging and playtesting are the two parts of development that consume the largest chunks of my time. I need to find a new genre that has low requirements in these regards. Perhaps idle games, clicker games, or visual novels would work best.
>>553653168AI antis, how do we respond?
>>553666725I do unironically need localization. I won't get anywhere if I can't attract some of the chinese audience
>make jew x shill account>reveal your game>get infinite budget>instant successwhat are you waiting for, anon?
How much of this do I need before I can make games...?
>>553670256post a couple examples of decent games that severely under performed (you won't)
Have you ever had a streamer grossly misrepresent your game on stream?
>>553671380when you make a new xitter account you are in shadowban hell for 1-2 months, after that you are restricted until your account is aged over 9 months by the algounless you buy xitter premium ofc, also youtube's new algo just fucked over small channels with low sub counts, it will only keep getting harder to get eyes on your game with no budget
>>553671551>youtube's new algo just fucked over small channels with low sub countsexplain
>>553671926You get your 100 back if you make 1000 bucks nigga, and if you can't make that much, then 30% isn't that big of a deal anyway, jesus christ what level of poverty do you complete fucking shitstains live in? Gabe needs to raise the price to $1000 already to filter you scum.
>>553671926zoomers are so spoiled. back in my time just the fact you got unmetered hosting for your game with unlimited downloads virtually forever from steam for a one time payment would be a big deal but now its nothing for them
>>553671496>>553670256figured you'd run off and not actually confirm what you're saying
>>553672417it's an unfair argument, you shift the goalposts on what you consider "good", and refute any game presented as being badyou do not deserve a response
>>553672514all im seeing is that you cant name a single one
>>553672576bad faith argument
>>553672659you dont even have an argument, just excuses
>>553672583whence zoomers being spoiled and calling it nothing
>>553672703you are projecting
>>553669346Surprised this didn't get more reviews. It used to go viral on old twitter
Guys, I've finally officially Made It™!
>>553672834What concession?
>>553672397I don't think anyone whining about Steam has ever even tried to use the alternatives to see how fucking bad it is. I opened a support ticket on itch.io regarding my game and I have yet to hear about them back after nearly 2 weeks. My whole game got approved on Steam in 4 days and these guys can't answer a goddamn email in 2 weeks. Cloud saves, forums, refund systems out of the box, they can take my goddamn 30% so I can focus on doing what I want, making games. >>553672583Go ahead and sell your game on itch.io then jackass. I fucking dare you. Nobody wants you to be on Steam anyway.
>>553672892kek
Make fascist games.
>>553673026He's only trying to antagonize you. Don't bother.
I am working on a new formula.
>>553672892/v/ hates it, that means that it's popular and well-liked. Congrats.
>>553673206From that pic it doesn't seem like they care at all, one schizo bumping over and over and barely anyone responding. That's the true cry of death for a game.
>>553673064What would that be?A blonde knight, that goes around and kills malformed subhumans of different skin color to keep everyone safe?
I'm fucking done with lumen, I knew it'd be difficult to work with, but I didn't expect it to be like this
>>553671876your newest video will be shown higher based on your subscriber count and velocity, so if you have low sub count you will never get in the top 4 recommended videos and people will have to scroll or click on the bottom recs, no matter how your video title and tags are relevant, people will get less relevant videos from older established accounts and even if your reach shows 300-500 views (which is the basis for new videos) it will be low quality views that are unlikely to lead to any decent CTR which means your video gets buried by the algo, enjoy!!!
>>553673540kek, that's nothing bro, just make better videos
steam's cut should be no more than 20% but it's publication cost should indeed go up... maybe to $500
gaben should pay ME for the privilege of hosting my game
>>553673118>>https://www.gamedeveloper.com
>>553673379>That never happens on Steam,Happened to me. Maybe don't make a shit game? I dunno what to tell you.>You're a genuine shill thenYeah god forbid I have the courtesy to give the games back to people who don't want it. I'll do you a better one, if I could I'd do exactly what Spider Software and Dwarf Fortress does, if you really didn't like my game I'll give your money back regardless of how many hours you played. You're the "shill" here if you just want to scam people out of their money in under 2 hours. I just genuinely want to make games people enjoy and if they don't enjoy it I don't want their money, people can just pirate my game anyway so it doesn't matter, you're just penny pinching. But I'm clearly talking to a soulless, subhuman hylic who will never know the true joy of game creation, so any attempt at communication is impossible. Have a good day, I got better things to do.
>>553674074there is never an answer to this
>>553673380That's all threads on /v/, just some have more passerby posters than others
>>553674289yes
what happened?
>>553674389it's just not appealing
>>553673449let me guess you have intel integrated graphics
>>553674389>3d factorio / satisfactory... but UGLIER and WORSEwow i'll take 10
>>553674389marketing
>>553674389it's an empty piece of shit retarded retard fucker
>>553674389Would've done better if it appealed to trans people. Transformers if you will. Roll out.
>>553674606this when will solodevs learn "game I like but shitty" is not appealing to anyone
>>553674763Why don't they just make "game I like but better"?Oh...
>>553674606>>553674763what are the odds that your games (if you even have games) are also GAME but uglier and shittier?
>>553674987you dont have to be better than every game you are inspired by, but this one looks barely above an asset flip
Excuse me? I thought I was learning game dev?
>>553673605thats actually huge, the majority of goycattle only click on the first 2 recs regardless of video quality, i think youtube must be bleeding money or something so they are trying to kill off the newcomers and mid channels
>>553675286>high school level math>hard
>>553675517Who said anything about hard?
>>553675449ngmi
>>553675552me nigga I'm always hard
are people here really just dumb noobs or why does nobody here write anything of value?
>>553675563you sound unemployed, sorry but your youtube career is the only NGMI thing here, get a real jobby
I'm ngmi, aren't I...
>>553675286>Sin
>>553675805>the new youtube algorithm kills smaller channels, success is impossible!>>that's not true>you're unemployed!!!stop projecting nikolay
>>553675771why did he do it?>>5536758791+1+1=?
>>553675771kys
nikolay epstein
>>553675887if that's what your indian brain gets out of that then sure, you are epic and the algorithm doesn't matter to you, you are super star sarr and you will become billionaire youtuber and leave uttar pradesh, do the needful
>>553676585kek more projection you're cooked bro, just release your game already, the failure will make you wise
>>553675286https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LUNSDaU_0c
the key to my productivity is 8 hour long videos on the side monitorthen I distract myself from the video by doing game dev taskswhen there is downtime such as compiling, I just watch the video until I can go back to dev stuffon some kino casino shit right now, highly recommended side monitor content
>>553676580>mask-wearers being terrorized by AI and dronesvideogames are meant to sell a fantasy, this is just the world we live in
how worried should I be about my psx texture base images being legal to use? on textures.com for example none of the industrial images offer IP warranty. It seems really unlikely to get in legal trouble even if you ripped textures straight from google earth or something
>>553677731ask a lawyer
>>553677731run it through AIboom legal
>>553677731ask a priest
>>553678238but then you have to mention that you're using AI and nobody will buy your slop
>>553677731it's probably fine. and even if it's not, they'll just tell you to remove it and it'll be fine. I'd be more worried about: getting cancer, having a heart attack, getting hit by a car or getting mauled by a dog.
>>553678305no one will notice for textures dude, just dont declare
>>553676285what's your fucking problem buddy?
>>553678348and then someone does and your game is gone entirely
>>553677731>IP warrantyWhat the fuck are you babbling about. Marathon steals its entire art direction from one artist and you're worried about downloading and using textures from a website called textures.com which is a website that provides textures for you to download and use? It's like $13 for a premium account which grants a commercial license for their stuff.
>>553678406is there a way to actually prove this? just keep claiming it's not ai
>>553678348u underestimate how just 1 person has to recognize it and want to u over
>>553678565Is it worth the risk? You'll have to decide that on your own.
>>553678736theres no riskeven if it was ai you could be a hapless retard who downloaded it or bought it in good faith, thinking it wasnt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvV7iyBhVBIFresh brannon kino
>>553678954And that protects you how?Jesus christ I swear the retards you find here...
>>553679073youre right if you even look at anything generated by AI gabe will personally come to your house and steal all the money out of your walletnow fuck off
>>553679153Well go ahead and just do it then, surely nothing will go wrong, like you said.>>553679174Nigger.
>>553657304Not ditching third-party-engines (Unity, Godot) sooner
>>553674074>If you don't give a shit about money, and TRULY only care for "the art of it"Not what I said friend. Re-read my post more slowly next time. I said I value making a genuinely fun game that people are willing to give money to just to support me, more than just making money for the sake of it.Besides, I already did release several free games on itch.io, and I got even $200 total in tips from it. Now I want to have a game on Steam so I can give out steam keys on Christmas as gifts, and you can't do that with free games.
>>553681132i never got a tip
Would an easy puzzle game or a hard puzzle game be more successful?
>>553681282neither
>>553681282just make a game where you press a single button to winEZ money
>>553681132>Now I want to have a game on Steam so I can give out steam keys on Christmas as gifts, and you can't do that with free games.Man you fucking steamies are truly something else. Absolutely insane bunch of cultists.
i dont think id release anything on steam
>>553681540you're not a woman, if you were i would probably fuck you, but you're not bro, ive seen your pictures too, probably would, but again, not a woman
>>553676682get a job prangjeep, and no youtube ain't a job for the likes of youse
>>553681805im a well respected software developer and not interested in that.
>>553681437I will not play your game if it's free (unless multiplayer or porn), because I know it's probably trash
>>553681896sounds like you need corrective rape
>>553682145i need more bad old moon nights on my motorcycle its the big dipper because you cant find home on those nights.
just like make game...
>>553595047nortubel give the people want they want: futa orc action
>>553682061>>553681132Samefag
>>553682361This but multiplayer.
>>553681437"steamies"Steam is just a platform bro, I don't give a shit about it or the people behind it. I'd send people CDs with my game on Christmas if they were willing to give me their address, but a steam key is much easier to send and they're much more likelier to agree to it since everyone has Steam installed.Also>guy I've been arguing with gets his posts deleted>check archive and match deletion date>samefag shitposter>>553674074>>553675064>>553674937I'm really the biggest idiot here, actually falling for it and wasting time with a clown who's never going to release a game and is just sperging out in between his tendie meals. I always thought I was above "JBlow losing his shit on twitter to complete shmucks that aren't worth his time" but turns out I'm the same. I'll never shit-talk him again.
>>553684319Nah bro, you're just a steamie cultist. "YOU DON'T GET IT I JUST *NEED* TO SEND OUT STEAM KEYS LIKE MY ERIC BARONE". I wouldn't be surprised if you are a bosci fag as well.
>>553684319you are an unemployed eceleb worshipper nodev, lets not pretend like wasting your life rotting on 4chan isnt exactly what you supposed to do, bitch
>Remove a bunch of unused assets and code>Game file size stays the same
>calls small games slop useless games>proceeds to create slop useless videoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nljtp32c64M
you hurt its feelings now the creature is gonna spam the same eceleb crap it does every single daythis is why neo 'ginas are a necessary evil
>>553679071Fresh Tranno cope
>>553684831Where is his game? I see people sayingBut he's smart to take advantage of everyone with a new year's resolution to create a game, and sell them courses now. Plus the latest batch of videos are pretty informative, especially the sound design ones.
>>553684626>muh monkey baroneHopoo did it first faggot, with RoR keys, I want to honor his tradition.
What are your thoughts on Zig as a vidya. programming language?
>>553685770glavsvet russian orc spyware
i think we should collectively apologize to joshua, he did nothing wrong, he's white, he made a free mod, he shared it here for feedback and got jumped on because he used AI, ill say it, sorry joshua
>36 deleted postsAI/tranny/Gabencunt spamme should be banned more often
>>553655176fuck you Crumble
>>553686334curious how this gabencunt bootlicker has no problem with eceleb worship even tough it has nothing to do with amateur gamedev, curious...
Good Morning /agdg/.It is time to work on the Vulkan Abstraction.
https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/2010030079607484767can i use this to make cutscenes for my dreamgame? i already wasted 5 months of claude pro barely using it despite paying 200 bux a month
>>553686613Post more of your neoginas so we can get your tantrum over with
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1580970/Samorost_1/good game, worth playing
You don't need gameplay
>>553686905>>553686828interesting coincidence
Nobody likes me because I use linux
>>553686661>MorningGood Evening.
>>553686274>i think we should collectively apologize to joshua, he did nothing wrong, he's white, he made a free mod, he shared it here for feedback and got jumped on because he used AI, ill say it, sorry joshua
>>553686992nobody likes you because you're a stuck up cunt who won't suck my cock and then let me strangle you to death
>>553686661>>553687049Good night
>>553686748Notice how the soul is removed unironically.The beauty of Miyazaki's direction is the little details in the animation.Look at when she notices her dad is a pig eating slop of course. When she reacts, you can tell that she initially doesn't understand what she's seeing. Then the realization and disgust set in. Her hair puffs out and stands on end to show this.The AI version is just "girl screaming".
>>553687116yes, do you disagree? why?
>>553687225biologically? nothing wrongbut in 2025 its no longer socially accepted, deemed by our society
i have a new yesdev philosophy: actually use what you learned.learning often feels like an "it's never enough" chase, where once you learned something it immediately feels useless.if you learn to implement A* pathfinding, put it in your project. if you learn vfx stuff, put it in your project. if you learn combat calculations, put it in your project. if you learn voxels, put them in your project. ofc it doesn't have to become dogmatic. but i really think you shouldn't always assume that just because something got easy to do for you, you shouldn't put it into your game.don't sit on your skills, use them.
you're going to gamedev tonight, right?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ1C7QFHwOY
>>553687538I just don't study something during main dev work unless I have to implement that thing.When I did lighting, I didn't know how to do it until I had to implement it.
steam needs quality control. Lots of good devs arent getting paid or noticed because too much garbage gets release and Ai is making it worse.
https://youtu.be/x5S-hUBFQao
Maybe they should make good games
I need to buy a house from gamedev. Having a home where you can just chill and take a shower and keep food in a refrigerator is something so many people take for granted.
>>553687640this is solved by valve not showing your game to anybody unless it makes enough moneyno more free exposure, you need to market your game yourself now
>>553687640Sorry you didn't make back your $100 on your unity racing game template asset flip, sandeep
>>553687538I learn what I have to doIf I want to implement something I don't know how to do, I simply learn to do so or else I learn that it isn't feasible
>>553687861This is a low quality post.
>>553687945>This is a low quality post.
>>553687945So is the one I responded to
>>553688031Do two wrongs make a right?
>>553687945nta but so is almost every post in this thread, are you all bots or real people? i think i'm surrounded by low IQ niggers and i can't stand it, are you really the reason i got into gamedev to spite you, i feel like a homeless man has replaced me in my own home, what the fuck, you are all bots i bet, it's like talking to mannequins
>>553685770C++ is all you need
>>553688136This is irrational paranoia, an early symptom of onset schizophrenia.
>>553687575lol you got me
https://x.com/nfttossclub/status/2011013107166875833godot xisters, how do we respond to this without sounding mad or trans
>>553688280>This is irrational paranoia, an early symptom of onset schizophrenia.
>>553688301>https://x.com/nfttossclub/status/2011013107166875833>godot xisters, how do we respond to this without sounding mad or trans
I have it on good authority that Betz is planning to reveal that he's starting a studio and is buying off /agdg/ devs to publish their games with him while he gets a cut of sales. The rug pull reveals itself. Figured you'd all want to know.
>>553688529You are very annoying.
ok ive got it all planned out nowjust need to make one incrementalslop to cash in and get some money to carry methen can make my singleplayer mobalikethen can make my gachaslopthen can make my rts
>>553688108Goodposting here is casting pearls before swine
>>553688529That's gonna be a no from me dawg
>>553688280if you were a bot connected to my info you would have responded with pressure and because you didn't i conclude you are not a botquick word of advise, you're retarded and i just made you walk the dinosaur
>>553688529>and is buying off /agdg/ devs to publish their games with him while he gets a cut of saleswhat percentage of $0 will he be taking?
>>553688832Not true.
How the fuck do you market a game that doesn't play well on youtube or streams?
>>553688832you don't even own any pearls retarded nigger, i'm the only real person currently posting, some actual lurkers might be drawn in because the thread bump but i know, i KNOW
>>553689076>How the fuck do you market a game that doesn't play well on youtube or streams?
>>553689076According to the Factorio devs, a playable demo and be prepared to wait for 1-2 years for word of mouth following to build up.
>>553689076Create cutscenes, or short films. Upload these videos to social media. Optimize the videos based on their performance to create more videos that are more likely to perform well.Become your own content creator. Make the posts yourself. Or, spend money on advertisements. Your choice.
>>553688727They also hated Jesus when he revealed the truth to them>>553688878Good.>>553688961You just wait.
>>553689465Delusion. Seek help. Stop doing drugs. Your brain is being destroyed.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3618390/Gamblers_Table/>mixed reviewshas any other recent release fucked themselves this hard? this got a crazy amount of activity back when they had the demo on itch
>>553689556>but it sadly feels like a run of the mill incremental game with not much making it any specialthe trend is already becoming stale
>>553689702if he had released it within a month or 2 from the original hype, and at half the price, he would have made millions
>>553689793>if he had released it within a month or 2 from the original hype, and at half the price, he would have made millions
>>553686334>you're the tranny ai spammer if you don't like gabencunt abusing indie devs
>>553689793>>553689886
I need to join this bundle...
i'm making my game with AI and lying about it. cope and seethe
>>553689981>>you're the tranny ai spammer if you don't like gabencunt abusing indie devs
>>553690383captain swecuck
Is it immoral to use my free allocation of slop for coding/research/google alt?to a large degree it's their fault search engines are enshittified btw. the bubble will pop regardless of whether I use it.
everything is fucked and everybody sucks
>>553690429>>>you're the tranny ai spammer if you don't like gabencunt abusing indie devs
What mouse do you guys dev with? I use a basic gaming mouse, but was considering getting something with more side buttons. It might not be worth the money.
>>553690445do you even need to disclose whether you used AI for the code?
>>553690976Logitech G600
>>553690976Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000
>>553684831I like how he never says that Thomas' game will be a success.
>>553690976the cheapest wireless mouse money can buy
Reposting my OC
>>553691395invite link?
>>553691395>>553691470discord.gg/killyourself
>>553691395dude's fighting demons, prayers
>>553691470check old demodays
>>553689556Made 60k in 2 days. Proving that shovelware is how to make money on Steam as an indie dev
>>553690976$30 wireless mouse & keyboard combo
>>553692497>shovelwarethey spent at least a year on it, the hype all came like 9 months ago
>>553691281>OCbro i saw that tweet
>>553692691yeah, but I made it aggydaggy version
>>553692497*Not accounting for refunds
...used to be?
Fygoon's address has not been posted on 4Chan.
>>553693072I'm right here bish
>>553693072>used to be
tell me why aren't you making a harry potter inspired game with cute cats and about magical herbology to craft potions to cure sick people?
>>553693410im not a woman
I like designing characters, writing and composing music and I want to put what it all somewhere so I bought the RPG Maker MV/MZ bundle, probably going to use MZ. But I’ve got little knowledge of and am shit at game design or what makes a game ‘good’, little dev experience and don’t understand coding at all despite repeated attempts, is it worth even attempting to make a proper RPG or just keep it as walk-and-talk story slop like Yume Nikki or the incest game?I want it to more of an actual game than a VN and have some kind of action so I can make intense battle themes that wouldn’t fit in a VN/game like Yume Nikki but if it’s going to be shit then I won’t bother. It’s just me working on it too. I could try to make it a different genre but I don’t know what genre and if it can be accomplished in the RPG Maker engine.
>>553693194I unironically found his house with minimal google searching. I don't know how to share it without getting a permanent ban
>>553693640post it on sharty
>>553693640post it at the steam bodega
>>553693072Is this v3? Fuck that retard.dd67 hosted by blue9fairy is the only aggie demo day.https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67
>>553693871>Is this v3? Fuck that retard. https://itch.io/jam/v3jam it's not but your eagerness to jump to conclusions is noted.
I just imagined her shoulder freckles.
>>553689556someone else copied their idea and released first https://store.steampowered.com/app/3929760/Incredicer/
>>553693585rpgs are so last year
>>553694260>gabencunt.webm
claude code can literally create and test it's own godot game, what the fuck
>>553694260+ 100$ tip
>>553694314You got a problem with that?
>>553693585you should learn game design.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXqEykD5Ub4This video explains a core ingredient to fun.A good game is subjective, but to me it has to be more a team effort between the music, the story, the characters, the graphics, the gameplay.One thing to remember, is don't try to make non violent, non combat games.While is fun to think that combat is something you want to get rid, the end result is boring, unless you use a timer or other tricks.In the end a game, is nothing but an obstacle race from the starting position, where the heroe is new to the world, and learn skills and tricks, get newer friends and unlock secrets that allow him to become stronger up to a point where he can defeat the big evil.To me combat vs no combat is like having salad, rice and a good steak.In the end both the steak is necesary, but also a steak without salad and veggies, is a much poorer dish.As for what combat to have, a good rule is to follow arcade combat design, like metal slug or classic shmups.In the end, your player shouldn't win at first try, but have a fair change to overcome the dangers by trying multiple times, until you can succeed because you have mastered the rules of the game.Too easy is boring, but also too dificult is not good, so is good to have a main easy path, but also alternative more dificult endings.
>>553693954okay, betz. I'm sorry.
>>553694419>You got a problem with that?
I suddenly remembered some free game a polish dude was advertising somewhere and he also had interesting github link I thought someone here might find it usefulhttps://github.com/TeamHypersomnia/rectpack2D
i'm making a multiplayer marble physics combat game and i can show a prototype soon
i enjoyed dumping a cel shader on this. It's bright and it looked so dark and sad before.
>>553694292Yeah I’m not sure if I even want to do a RPG. I’ve seen gameplay of other genres made in RPGM and even someone who made a 3D plugin so I don’t think my choices are as limited as I think, I just need to choose what genre I want.>>553694454Thanks, I’ll watch that video. To be fair I am focusing more on the music, story and characters than gameplay, the graphics will probably just be pixelart but I’ll try to make it look pretty at least. Honestly if I could I would do what ZUN does where there is involved gameplay but a lot of focus is on the characters and music, only problem is I can’t think of a format or genre that would let me do that without ripping off his bullet hells and I’d want to make it more story focused.
>>553692648How the hell did it take them a year? That's, at most, a 6 month project.
>>553695475no idea, they had a playable demo 9 months ago too. they really screwed themselves not releasing earlier
>>553695615>gf.webm
Kinda rude.
>>553695475I'm 98% sure you've never actually finished a game.
>>553691281>>553693585>>553694260>>553695615bore off
>>553695335maybe make it like a VN in rpg maker and renpy.That sounds like a better idea than making a shump for your question.You only need to make the main gameplay to be more like the old resident evil games that are more like I need to find this hidden item that will open the chest that will give me the key to open that door.Pretty sure copying that and making the game more about ambience like yume nikki a good idea to you.Maybe add a timer, like you have a limited number of tries or days or map changes to figure out the solution, to give a feeling of danger, instead of enemies.
>>553695615That's what the girls looked like when I was in my 20's with no job, so yeah, when I'm pulling in some more money I'll be set.
>>553695924I’ll try that then. Thanks for the help.
>>553696312
>>553696939Nerds get plenty of pussy, Notch is insufferable. I wouldn't hang out with him if he paid me to.
>>553697328notch is trying to make a new game and nobody will work with him because he's such a cunt, so it'll probably be canceled
Might as well start posting your neoginas now.
>>553697328>Nerds
>>553691281This will be me 8 years from now when Wasteland Bites dev, Maid Cafe dev, Acrolyte dev and Blorb are buying their third property
Not even billions of dollars can turn an unlovable chud into less of an unlovable chud.
We have images of Fygoon and Joshua but do we have any IRL pictures of Betz if people are going to start making him the new thread target?
>>553698007how about you make video games instead of targets
>>553595047Grok, summarize this thread for me
>>553698007This is the only one I could find on the v3cord.
>>553697647>henry_cavill.jpg
What's the fantasy your game caters to?Does it even?Do you think it's important?
>>553595047op could've been a roblox game
>>553698773>What's the fantasy your game caters to?Cute cartoon characters.
The /agdg/ thread is a chaotic, polarized forum for amateur game developers. Key themes include: AI use: Debated heavily—proponents see it as useful for art/voice, critics call it "slop" with poor quality. Community toxicity: Dominated by spam from "AI/tranny" trolls, "gabencunt" shaming, and neogina posts. Marketing struggles: Developers complain about Steam’s algorithm, noting games need $10k+ revenue to be promoted, not just reviews. Indie game criticism: Many lament repetitive tropes, lack of vision, and soulless design. Personal struggles: Posts reveal burnout, financial stress, and depression, often masked by humor or absurdity. Game design philosophy: A divide between "fun" and "value"—some believe games should serve passion, not just entertainment.Overall, it reflects passionate but disillusioned devs navigating a toxic, competitive landscape. The thread is a mix of genuine progress, frustration, and internet absurdity.
>>553699403>chatgpt had to include "neogina" in its summary
>>553694936Good colors.
The /agdg/ (Amateur Game Development General) thread on 4chan's /vg/ board kicks off with the OP sharing resources like AGDG Demo Day 6 on itch.io, game jams, HackMD links, Steam game lists, and WebM guides, accompanied by a Maid Cafe Coop Steam screenshot, setting a "GMI edition" tone for indie dev progress updates and banter. boards.4chan.org Discussion quickly devolves into chaotic, irreverent exchanges: name-guessing games (e.g., "Dungeon Sex"), porn distractions, copying successful titles for Steam wishlists, YouTube algorithm woes, game jam prizes (including Steam page funding), critiques of soulless indie tropes lacking vision, AI's role in art/code (praised for prototyping but slammed as "slop" producing inconsistent results), Steam vs. itch.io debates (fast approvals and features vs. high cuts and promotion barriers), engine struggles like Lumen, texture legality, marketing rants, and toxic spam about "trannies," "neoginas," and thread-killing bots, all amid progress shares, memes, and savage roasts of failed projects. boards.4chan.orgAGDG
>>553652049>old ideaguys were funnyI miss the molyneux poster, a bit. I actually used to write down some of the ideas posted here.
ideaguys are countered by pongposters
>>553700241I sometimes post molys for the lulzt. pongposter
>>553697647It's not my fault I'm incredibly handsome, smart, and funny. We're talking about game development.
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH hold me bocchi sisters! I cannot fucking live like this anymore
>Who is Peter?>Have you tried two paddles and a ball?
>>553652049>the real downfall is actually the ritualposting ideaguys who never stop making up shit about games they're never going to make.whats wrong with posting ridiculous ideas? they are just jokes autismo
>>553700241A game where you must save a game studio from bankruptcy by releasing and marketing a shitty Pong clone
>>553699403>no loliI need to ramp up my loli posting
The fall of /agdg/ stems from an ever increasing solidification of the gamedev meta, and ever decreasing chances for off-meta games to make it. /agdg/ is split between those who actively learn to play the meta and those who refuse to. Only the metaslaves will make it, and the flopdevs won't stop crying about it.
>>553701756What's the meta?
>>553701756or the increase of worthless frogposts
>>553701756I never found the meta to be much funI'll learn from my own mistakes
>he isn't making joybaiting funslop
>>553701756if you look at the made-by-agdg site, that simply isnt the casegood quality games find success, poor quality games dont
>same thread for 24 hoursUhh... you okay agdg?There some kind of holiday I don't know about?
>>553702380yeah it's Marthin Luther Progress Day!
>>553652049>the real downfall is actually the ritualposting ideaguysIt's demoralizing, because real gamedevs have to scroll through pages of nonsense that they know no real gamedev has the time to sit around typing. No gamedev sits around typing ideas for games into a thread, so when you realize the thread is basically full of nodevs you realize you're in the wrong place. AGDG has always been hurt by the need for plebs to claim that literally not making anything is what makes them "amateur" and they even become hostile towards devs who are on a clear trajectory to success or who at the very least are actually making games.
>>553702380Today is national rubber ducky day
Based on reviews of multiple /agdg/ threads from 2025 and 2026, the community's slow degradation and decline stem from several interconnected causes. First, persistent spam and toxicity from recurring figures like Joshua (often accused of proxy-posting transphobic rants, gore, and off-topic bait) and fygoon (a ban-evading spammer linked to CP and thread-ruining meltdowns) have derailed discussions, driven away productive users, and created an environment of constant "melties" (heated arguments), with anons repeatedly calling for dedicated moderation or a separate board to combat bots and repetitive posts. Second, a shift toward off-topic content, including gossip about e-celebs like Eric Barone, Toby Fox, and Chris Zukowski, as well as unrelated memes, politics, and personal attacks, has overshadowed actual game dev progress shares, turning the thread into a "watering hole for burnouts and losers" rather than a supportive space for amateurs. Third, divisive debates over AI's role in development—praised by some for accelerating prototyping but slammed as enabling "slop" (low-effort content) and laziness—have fueled accusations of dishonesty (e.g., not disclosing AI use per Steam TOS) and contributed to demotivation, especially amid broader industry saturation where oversaturated markets, algorithm changes, and hardware obsolescence make success feel unattainable. Finally, an influx of "nodevs" (non-developers) spreading doomerism and attacking progress posters, combined with burnout from high living costs and tool frustrations, has amplified negativity, as seen in departures like Marmoreal's after "the great floppening," contrasting with slightly more vibrant 2025 threads focused on shaders, demos, and advice.
>>553702012>he isn't making handmadebait kinocore soulslop
>>553662916>>553663675>just look at INDIE GIANT GAME EVERYONE PLAYS>they don't need good capsule art so neither do IThis kind of stupidity is infuriating lmao
>>553703260Thanks chat gpt
Discord is more active than ever
>Try to read the english translation of edwin smith papyrus, and the prologue literally mentions an egyptian physician with the title of the "guardian of the anus"Man, I need to read a couple ancient medical books for my nurse game, but this is literally 10/10 gold.
>>553703339It was grok but ok
>>553702012>i fucking hate gamers>gamers should suffer>not have fun
>>553703440That's even worse!
>>553703260Shutup chat.
>>553703260It was never the case that AI was criticized for the reasons it states, it was always that it was ADVERTISINGThe other part is FREE ADVERTISING with how the AI spammer does it.
>>553703260>"the great floppening,"Moooom, come look! The AI quoted my post!
>>553670256>you didn't spend 6 months farming wishlists before release, and 2 months sending free copies to content creators, and for that reason, your game will effectively remain shadowbanned on steam until something big happens and people start deliberately searching for it and buying it>brutalThat's called marketing and it happens with every product for sale in history. How is it brutal. You show people your product or it doesn't sell. Or maybe your product becomes popular by some other means like promotion from a celebrity, and then it starts to sell.Why would that ever be different with games. You aren't paying $100 to Steam for them to put you on the front page of the store and even if they did nobody would notice or care about your game because you don't care enough about marketing to make a decent BOX for your product (capsule art). Why do I keep letting these kind of posts bait me. It's like arguing with a child.
>>553704158Steam is a storefront taking 30%. It should be the one doing the marketing
>>553673860>But I'm clearly talking to a soulless, subhuman hylic who will never know the true joy of game creation, so any attempt at communication is impossibleGOTEMNotice they got deleted as well. These are the "people" who come here to shitpost and cry about Gabe and steam all day.
>>553663675As a player I literally only think of the capsule as genre + vibe, that's it. The retards wasting money on some impressive shit are missing the point. The capsule is an image that lets me quickly know before I even click if the game is a serious space simulation or a chill space simulation game, or if the game is an arcade racing game or simulation racing game
>>553679071thx king
So... where do we go from here?
>>553684626>>553684684Seethe meltie after getting all your samefag posts deleted.Pathetic.
>>553704854/lgdg/
>>553704948https://x.com/Awk20000/status/2010327153112748424
>>553679071I'm somewhat upset at how he didn't say "have a good one guys" at the end
My game is utter shit. No one will want to play it but it's the game I want to make and that's that.
Wow, so Buffy's sister was actually some weird magic demon portal key in human form thing? I did think Buffy suddenly having a sister after 4 seasons of not having a sister and no mention being made of a sister was kind of suspicious but I chalked it up to lazy writing
>>553705307What is your game?
>>553695615>0:05>when the amphetamines hit
>>553705109
>>553701890Marketing.
>>553705687normies are catching on what loli games really are
>>553705301he prolly is doing some a/b testing, dont worry he will keep doing it
>>553705109https://x.com/vexel_0/status/1932950603824599089
>>553671496Roody2DBanquet For FoolsMarmoreal
>>553705695I got this far. And I did it incorrectly. So I'm probably going to have to punt this game onto the market and try to do better next time.
>>553701890https://howtomarketagame.com/>>553702135Quality isn't enough. It also has to be the right kind of game. Take for example how Penguin Heist made it, but Detective Penguin flopped. Both are reasonably high quality but they are off-meta short and cutesy console games and not Steam PC games. However, only one got lucky off covid and women being locked indoors as they should be.
>>553693585RPGs are a multi-decade old genre, so if you're going to do one you either need to do it insanely clean to the point of being remarkable (hard even for some industry veterans), revive a lost style of them that at this point will feel new and fresh (see Undertale to Mother 3), or do something novel which is both hard to come up with and hard to balance because you have no path to follow. That isn't me saying you shouldn't try it, but that's the path you have to walk if you do want to do it. Otherwise, you may as well just treat it more like a VN. That will require you be a good writer but that was probably the case for making a remarkable RPG anyway.
>>553595047Working on my mushroom selling mechanic
>>553706648You're knowledgeable. Very smart you are
>>553687640Over 8000 didnt make $1000....I have an idea, make the steam fee $5000. Quality should control itself there
>>553706835thanks i played videogames. suggest you do the same
>>553706648I see. And Japanese cartoons has something to do with it?
>>553706295>Roody2DIt's not a good game. I have over 1k hours in Factorio, so you can't say it's just not my kind of game. My extremely autistic friend who plays actual industrial robotics simulators wouldn't touch it either when I mentioned it to him.>Banquet For Fools>MarmorealIncomplete games. You can't release an incomplete RPG and expect people to want to play it. BfF will likely pass 1k reviews after the 1.0 release next month. Marmoreal will unfortunately never be finished.
>>553706463>short and cutesy don't do well on steamI'm not going to make my game ugly. Never mind that lots of games that meet that criteria did well, though you often need to cultivate an audience outside of steam.
>>553688529With what money? v3 isn't for profit or anything
>>553706792moomins is public domain?
>>553707019Long and cutesy can do well. Short and gritty/horror can also do well. The two together is usually a death sentence.
>>553706792You know, looking at this the most noticable thing is incohesiveness of assets. random texture style and texel density. some things are very low poly, char is high poly.I feel like this is a red flag that screams asset flip to people who browse and separates the games that make it from those that don't. all of this regardless of your effort or game mechanics. people first judge games by their looks. /blog
>>553705695
>>553706792That's a great art style. Is that the animal crossing game that used to be posted here a good while ago?
>>553706792cute and cozylean in on it more
>>553689702Kek the dopamine receptors are getting fried faster than they did with Vampire Survivor clones. Will making non slop games have better odds of success soon?>>553706463>and women being locked indoors as they should be.Based
>>553706463>Penguin HeistThat's friendslop. Could do even better right now.
>>553703260>>553699990>>553699403Thanks anons, really nice of you
>>553705971kanna...
>>553694254>just show your game bro no one will clone it>stop being hysterical cloners only copy proven successes>you just have no game that's why you refuse to share itIdea chads who refuse to show their games, we wonned
>>553595047nortubel give us orc futa on elf boy
>>553708040Clones can only diminish your game's value if your game is significantly worse. Stop making bad games and this wouldn't be a problem.
>>553707252Yeah I'm aware. Most of the style is just a WIP. Playing around and trying to see what works. None of the textures are final, am mainly just drafting up a gameplay loop first - but part of the loop is mostly the shroom generation and foliage placement in the world. After that I'll tackle the style and assets. Most of the assets (textures and models) are indeed "flips" from my own past projects
>>553708329>forms a team of 3d world artists willing to do rev share>clones your game>winNothing personnel
>zukjeet is back samefagging and shilling his e-celeb shitGrim.
>>553707131He brought on investors based off the "growth" of /v/3 in the last few years. Expect the summer show to be sponsored and it'll be the confirmation that what I'm saying is true.
>>553708040fr u dont copy a well established popular game because youll be the clone ripoff and get hated on, u go on frogmage boards and find interesting and cool ideas from anons and literally whos because they cant do shit
>>553709205Even if that is true why is betz starting an indie publishing company such a bad idea?
>tfw too horny to dev
>>553708040>I know a guy who shit himself in public>better wear diapers 24/7 just in case
>>553706792Yeah this is the place alright. Alpha team this is Bravo Delta on your markMOVE MOVE MOVE
>>553709638because that means he's actually doing things instead of just shitting on his ass all day shitposting, and that really upsets me (a nodev)
>>553709921Well go crank your hog and get back to devving then
the reason I don't post my game is it would be really easy to find my real name and social media of my friends and family
>>553709638Because it's based around his narcissistic need to be at the center of attention. Not out of some genuine desire to help /agdg/. He wants "/agdg/: Presented by Betz"
>>553707252I watched the same webm you did and didn't think any of those things. Nobody is hallucinating asset flips like you anymore unc it's 2026.>>553708409Don't listen to that anon he's borderline shitposting you at best.
>>553710312Multiple devs here have their real names in the credits of their games and nobody gives a shit. You're not that special.
>>553644002(:i didi was creating, but i left the thread and stopped posting here after not getting the replies that would have kept me here. Dont worry, i did progress post, and i will probably post one more post in agdg when the game is finished or something
The reason I don't post my game is I still didn't finish the design document that is taking me forever to.
>>553710312the reason I don't post my game is Im just not gonna post it Ugh i know i know im sorry!! Im just not gonna post it (my game) HAHAHAHA
>>553689702>>553707370>Will making non slop games have better odds of success soon?No. Fast food will always be the biggest market, you have to be okay with that. It's delusional to imply that everyone is getting tired of fast food because a food critic opined about it.
>>553710625All this tells me is you have no game and should just go away. What's the point?
what ethnicity is this?
>>553710402Nobody even knows who Betz is except for people in the v3 discord. Before Joshua/Pedro had his first 4 day meltie which involved spamming "schizo betz" 8000 times I had never even heard of him.
>>553709004
I think I have reached a quality I am 100% happy with these sprites:D
nobody knows who joshua or pedro is either, zukjeet. oh, wait, that's right. they're your alter egos that you blame your meltdowns on.
Betz needs to focus on actual promotion of aggy devs instead of doing all this side shit like a game jam when he barely has any followers as it is.Set up some curator pages, gain an audience on socials and retweet aggy devs, do stream collabs, etc
>>553709004did the disgusting eceleb worshiping creature stop posting for a while? i havent browsed since like halloween or before and its pretty much the same shitposters
>>553710992Indian
>>553709004>nooo it's gwim it's gwim You don't matter, retard.
>>553711553Nah he's been here almost every thread.
>>553711245You're a joke and you will remain a joke.
>>553710992Levantine
you all think im hot huh.you all have a crush on me
>>553710992those indians that are light skinned.another option is iberian, or latina.
>>553711905our response xisters?
>>553684684>>553685052>>553686613>>553711553uh oh meltie #25 incoming
>>553711185You know things are grim when seeing cris post progress makes you smile
>can literally feel the IQ in the thread drop when he arrivesPedro/Joshua please shoo and stay shooYou have no game
>>553711393>gain an audience on socialsAh the classic line. Since, as you know, /agdg/ has mastered this and it's Betz's fault for not keeping up. Or wait, are you implying Betz should be doing the promotion work for everyone? Now I'm confused...
>>553710625Based anon. They deny it even other anons have been cloned, just look at Maid Cafe Coop.
>gwim everything is gwimCan you like go to the store and buy a personality or something. Stupid little cuck lmao
>>553710494>Multiple devs here have their real names in the credits of their games and nobody gives a shit.I have a very uncommon name and it would be very easy to find me on social media and my employer and my friends and family and maybe even my phone number.>You're not that speciaFalse
gamedev musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDhQ7x0eZ0
*pulls up ladder*Sorry gamedev has just gotten too competitive and I really, really need to make it off gamedev. 1000 reviews is simply not enough for me, so until further notice the ladder will stay up here with me.
>553712996>553711848>553711638lmao
>>553712872>are you implying Betz should be doing the promotion work for everyone?his entire show is to promote aggy games, of course it would fall on him to gain an audience and promote his own showcase that will then view the aggy games
>>553710992racially ambiguous young woman on a college brochure
>>553712062He got filtered by a third person movement controller. You have to understand what AI means to a low iq individual like this. When you disparage ai, his only salvation, or when he can't generate a feature (he's too dumb to prompt properly), he throws a meltie to cope. I pity him.
>>553711393The gamejam is good, 4chan has never had one before and it's an obvious thing to do when there are multiple gamedev generals. For you to have such a bad take on something that simple makes me disregard anything else you might say.
>>553713274t.newfag
>>553711393>>553713557In fact all of this is trash compared to a gamejam>Set up some curator pagesTrash>gain an audience on socialsWhat are you even talking about. Trash.> retweet aggy devsTrash>do stream collabsGarbage
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>>553711393>>553713306Betz here. Believe me I'm going to give it my all this year. I have a strategy in mind to try and get an audience off board and I've already talked about this with a couple of the production team but this year's going to be very different in terms of presentation. Not to go into a wall of text here but I do have this feeling that we're sort of hitting a ceiling with 4chan being our primary audience But on the flip side it's very hard to gain an audience that isn't 4chan due to the stigma with the site. I understand that the stigma is not as bad as it used to be but it is still there and you cannot convince me that it doesn't negatively affect people's perception of anything relating to it.Hell I even asked someone who works with a publisher If they would be interested in helping promote the game and I was told no because they don't want to have a connection to the site. So part of what I'm trying to do this year is to find the balance between the two to where I don't alienate the 4chan audience but I don't push away the rest of the internet. Genuinely might be an impossible task but I'm still going to attempt it. We'll see if it pays off.I'm welcome to feedback that anybody else has regarding this. As to why we're doing the game jam I'm not the one directly running it I'm just helping out.
Gaben raises the steam entry fee to $10k however most gamers continue to refuse buying elsewhere so it's a cost gamedev's will just have to eat. What criteria do you use to decide whether a game is worth making and paying the $10k fee for?
waiting for the /v/ dev thread to be created so I can post proggy
>>553713846>it's very hard to gain an audience that isn't 4chan due to the stigma with the siteThere's a huge portion of the userbase and culture on other sites especially twitter and reddit and especially after the hack. So there's no real stigma anymore except for people who literally refuse to go anywhere else on the internet. aka uncs
>>553713348>racially ambiguous young woman on a college brochurei love this place
>>553713954Is the game good?Is the game fun?Is the game something people want to play?
>>553713954>Gaben raises the steam entry fee to $10kHe will never do that. In fact he won't even raise it because the low cost benefits him. He won't set the price TOO low because you risk flooding Steam with even more slop, which would start to seriously damage Valve's reputation, and they're VERY careful with their reputation.$100 is the sweetspot where the floodgates are open so you can make millions on shovelware every year whilst at the same time it's not too much that gamers start realising there's a problem.Gaben doesn't give a shit about the quality of the offerings on his store. All he gives a shit about is money.
>>553714094I find it strange that Joshua avoids it. I can freely post about my game, Zukowski marketing advice (very useful for gamedev), and even Bocchi's without issue.
>>553714220>especially twitter and redditTwitter I can understand I'm just braindead when it comes to playing the algorithm. Reddit I'm not so sure. Tell me that a show that promotes itself being from 4chan actively promoting on reddit is going to go over well. Not from Reddit but from here.
>>553714368>I can freely post about my gameSo can you post it here? I'd like to see it.
>>553714351Valve might raise it, i see more and more complaints about quality
>>553713846>I even asked someone who works with a publisher If they would be interested in helping promote the game and I was told no because they don't want to have a connection to the site.I mean yeah duh. You ask someone where they are based and the answer is "4chan and nowhere else" you're dealing with a fuckup. Only the worst kind of person is afraid of having an account on the internet where they might get banned or muted/ignored. See: fygoon
>>553714582The complaints are too fringe, they get dismissed with retards saying "lol good games never flop" and other similar shit. It must get really, REALLY bad, like quite literally 10 000 AI slop games every day bad for Valve to give a shit.Or you can just get loud enough on social media, if you won't get shut down by gamers before that is.
>>553714640I'm not worried about being ignored or banned or whatever. I don't get what you mean.
Can someone post the sakurai video screenshot where he talks about "throwing in the towel" please
>>553713557>>553713759you're right, he should continue working on side projects that don't gain him any followers or viewers so the devs can benefit from the same 1k viewers every showcase
>>553714963>Can someone post the sakurai video screenshot where he talks about "throwing in the towel" please
>>553713846Betz my boy can you address the rumors that you're starting a publishing company >>553688529
>>553595047I wonder if I know the dev from the OP...
>>553715223>1k viewers every showcaseHmmm
>>553714351>>553713954Notice how whenever people can't beat their competition their first thought is to price them out of being able to enter in the first place.
>>553715310at least he said please
NEW THREAD>>553715548>>553715548>>553715548
>>553714963https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWWwELXIAEw
>>553710992Could be a med, south slavic or white latina, maybe just a european woman or do retards believe every euro has light hair and eyes?
>>553715368I fucking wish I had that kind of money. No, unfortunately it's false. I don't have the resources to do something like that. Plus, y'know, the whole whining about how hard it is to get off site views I'm doing right now. If I could manage getting outside funding then I could get outside viewership.
>>553715648Thank you, inshallah you make it brother
>>553714963
Lots of progress todayI won't post it thoughKeeping my internal pressure high
>>553714094p-post it here too, sis
>>553701240it's the "here is my autogenerated concept art" over "this is my game idea"yes, AI replaced even nodev idea guys and it's just sad
