Tick tock Yoshi Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/12-29-2025-update.95233/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>553501005
why didnt you use the vindicta chair image
>>553645358
watching jewish jitsu season 2 im bored of deadlock
>my victor decides to run in at minute 0 at a kelvin and Vyper>gets beamed, mag dumped by vyper and killed by her venom in just a few seconds>he realizes he's done something wrong but his brain isn't very good so he decides the correct decision now is to play like the biggest bitch ever after giving them an immediate advantage>he even stands ON TOP OF THE BUILDING NEXT TO LANE WITH FULL HP to shoot the creeps down below for peanut damage>next fight I get two parries off but I guess he was upset with me for not saving him from feeding right at the very start on the game so he just backpedals away plinking them with his gun>he ends the game with only 7 kill participation because he spent most of it sucking up all the camps and running awayI'm done until the next patch, fuck this shit
I'll never get over why people never seem to counterbuy against a big Bebop. Only me and 2 of my teammates bought counterspell. 3 of them are just wide open to get doublebombed for 2k+
>drifter complains that im "throwing" and farming all game not pushing objectives>win with most objective damageI knew it was coming but its times like these that I wish I could leave a comment on these shitters profiles
>>553648853also never get bebop when I make a build for him and play at an ungodly hour just to try the build. really should have just quit immediately
>>553649017>dude bitches that I did nothing in lane>check damage comparisons at various times in lane>higher trooper and hero damage at all times
will update be good? or bad
>>553649459Good because it will have brooltard containment finally
>>553649504wdym
>>553649459big time update (some are calling it the biggest ever) will be henceforth called the 'big beautiful update' and is surely the biggest most beautiful most SUCCESSFUL update of this game's life
It's so funny how hyped up everyone has been about an update and Yoshi just says the exact same thing he said a month ago
>>553649543aram mode
>>553649604i know nothing of this, source?
>>553649643Google Street Brawl.
how is player count even a concern outside of that one time artifact flopped. Valve's marketshare of PC gaming is a retarded 90%+, all they have to do is pin it at the top of the store once it releases.
>>553649891is this pic real
>>553649643A "reliable" leaker quoted themselves as having said that the next patch will have an All Random All Mid battle mode.
>>553649891There is no concern, which is why they've continued to not release anything official about the game, like.. at all. Concern with the player base is just temporary until the flood gates open, and by then they should have a functioning mm.. or else.
>enemy mcginnis and vyper win lane in 4 minsMan I sure do love 30 min matches being won in the first 10 mins
>>553650720Some lane matchups in this game are genuinely just unwinnable and will lead to a lost lane in five minutes, which most often leads to a stupid snowball. It's the kind of thing that will only really get fixed once we get a proper draft
im going to play doorman domain expansion build only. i will be an annoying faggot
Its gonna be the last fucking week of january...
>>553652342of 2027...
I see why Z patriots love haze. I jobbed in lane against a lash 1/6, and then I just power farmed the jungle and won the game.
>>553653063God I cant fucking wait for the jungle to be updated and iy has camps that cuck bullet or spirit builds
>utterly dominate lane>look around>10 deaths in yellow lane>green walker is downoh it's one of thoseoh it's one of those
>20 minutes into match>drifter is 0-18oh it's one of thoseoh it's one of those
>>553654112seriously, KDA whores are the fucking blight of this game. its so fucking annoying too when you point out who the fuck cares about KDA ingame and they talk like they know shit. meanwhile they are behind souls too
deadflop trannycock
I would like to play Haze and Wraith more but I cannot stand that the correct playstyle with them is to ignore every single teamfight just to keep farming, it's so mindlessly boring
>>553654828just play a build that has you ganking 24/7
>>553654828play vypersame thing but bola goes off cooldown every minute so you can just go rape someone with it every time it's up then continue farming
How long will the tree ornament event last?When will yoshi add a sex mini-game?
>>553655182Vyper falls off too much in the late game though, she is a certified lane raper though
when will yoshi add a toilet mechanic? i want to see mina shitting
>>553655559Couple more days.
>>553655575>has the single highest base dps gun in the game with no ramp-up, high threat if chased too hard, and even a fucking aoe panic stun>"falls off"
>>553655793she becomes lashlike where her most useful thing is her aoe stun since she's far more vulnerable to disables compared to haze wraith warden
>>553655963>wardenis warden mainly used as a gun carry now? i havent played since it was just build ult all the time
IVY
>>553655575what>you have the best damage steroid(s) in the game>have the highest dps in the game>you have one of the best ults in the game>free shieldscan take base in literally 1 secondyou are building wrong
>>553656327>SIKE
>>553656604No... Don't do that to her wtf....
>3/4 of the games played today have smurfswhy
Am I hardstuck in Seeker if I go on win streaks just as often as losing streaks? I don't know how many more hours I can take these Initiates/Seekers who do nothing but fucking fight the whole time and ignore objectives.
>>553656980You HAVE to play nothing but M1 hypercarry if you want to get out of low elo fast, bro.Your teammates don't matter when you are 40k ahead and demolish everyone in your way.
>>553656980Personally, I suggest you give up. It's not possible rank up in any major way. You rank up by scoring a set amount of victories, and a loss nullifies a victory. This means that if you want to go from Ritualist 1 to Emissary 1 and you are at a win/loss ratio of 1, you need a win/loss ration quite a lot bigger than 1.
>>553656980>don't know how many more hours I can take these Initiates/Seekers who do nothing but fucking fight the whole time and ignore objectives.every time i have to make a suboptimal rotation across the map to defend the walker from the wave nobody else seems to see i ask myself if it's even the right play at that point
WowWe really are getting the patch wirhout knowing what silver looks like huh
>>553655585>paige hasn't shit for 5 minutes (in-game time)>gets hit by drifter ult and shits herself during itSounds kino desu
>>553658003YES YES YES>since she doesnt wear underwear she leaves a snailtrail of feces
>>553657902Gotta have surprises.
Didn't play in a while, when are we getting base/patron revamps?
>>553658286We are getting an update this month.
>>553658526not true, the update drops in december later this year
>>553658552>this yearoh I'm laffin
>>553658748im going to kill you
>Abrams>Mercurial MagnumThink about it deadtards. It makes sense.
>>553658907i prefer echo shart
>>553658770thats me when in lane against vindicta mains
We need new items again
>>553658973we're not ready for new items
We need old items again
>>553656980ranks dont matter, dogshit players like this exist far above seeker>who do nothing but fucking fight the whole time and ignore objectivesmost of the people like this are hero shooter tourists who know nothing except fighting
>>553658973I want Aghanim's Scepter so bad
we need more anti bullets desu
>>553658937Both.
remove haze from the game
Rem is going the way of Raven and Fathom. There's no way they can make his diminute hitbox work and his abilities are retardedly broken.
will we ever get to change a characters weapon type
>>553659427t. died with 80 stacks of fixation
>>553659558he seems way too finished for them to scrap
When will Valve add a hero with a horse motif to deadlock.
>>553659659How do you know?
>>553659689>a horse motifpenis included?
>>553659558Just make him take more damage
>>553649891the last time valve released a successful live service game was 10 years ago and built on top of a pre existing playerbase, and throughout all these years they've shown complete lack of focus, an inability to remain consistant even in the most basic of tasks, and an overreliance on community made cosmetics for content drops. add to this the fact that the game has had dramatic playerbase drops not once but twice already, and the fact that mobas have been a cornered market for YEARS now, and you can see why people might be worried.
I hole to fucking god silver isnt a furry outside of her werewolf form
I hope silver's furry form is actually furry, and not mokrill smooth
>>553659689pepper is right there, umafag
>>553660906I'm hoping that Riot or Blizzard have a copy in the works, I'd love to play a game like this without all of the usual Valve crap weighing it down
How fluffy should Silver be?
>>553662702dynamic fluff that scales with your green item investment
>Riot>making anything less braindead than LoL>nuBlizzard>making anything
>>553660906The only games valve failed on in those years was Artifact and Underlords.Underlords is barely a minigame and was late to the party. No surprise.Artifact was a card game with brutal monetization based on a game that is only played by autists who play no other genres.Artifact was a failure but Underlords barely even counts.
the player count wouldn't have declined if yoshi had blocked off all non english speaking countries
reminder they're just adding new heroes and the game isnt going to change at all, there will still be shitty stomps and cancer games
>>553662801Underlords was only worked only by like a handful of people after the autochess devs rejected their offer
I have started playing Dotard 2 because the 'lock update took too long...Is there any youtuber that doesn't have a pronounced ESL accent and posts games with a somewhat informative and/or funny tone? There's too many fucking things going on and too many characters.
>>553663602Just keep playing deadlock there's literally no point to get into dota anymore. You will never reach a high rank there and even the worst players have 5k hours in it now.
>>553662765I have more faith in riot at this point cause they'll actually work on the game and hire qualified people instead of based on vibes like hopoo. I cant believe someone who made a trash pixel game who's never played a moba before in their life is head of hero kit design. No wonder they're all so boring
>patch next monday probably>house is getting demolished on tuesday
>>553663602I like zquixotix. I wouldn't say he's particularly funny, but he's informative especially from the support player side of the game, and he just has a decent not annoying voice and speaks well. Has a bunch of guides and replay reviews and stuff.Sometimes he casts pro games too.
>>553663602watch jenkins herald reviews you'll learn what's extremely retarded and how to not be like that
>>553663602>Is there any youtuber that doesn't have a pronounced ESL accentif you're starting dota, might aswell learn russian
Can you zoophiles jack off BEFORE posting or playing the game, please?
>>553663073They need them at this point, just like dota 2. Lmao if you think valve will learn from their mistake and firewall off peru
As an OCE player I love hearing Euros and burgers complaining about lack of region lock.I've never had to deal with a russian or peruvian my entire life.Worst I get is stoned aussie bogans, and the occassional chinese or seamonkey who usually say nothing all game and play better than that stoner anyway.I guess the cost is a shallower pool of players but whatever, theres enough people playing at my skill level anyway
>>553663860>>553663972Thanks for the reccs.>>553664116blyaaaat
>>553664428The euros are spoiled fucking brats. You wouldnt believe just how awful peru is. I would take russians every single time. At least the russians know when they are griefing peru doesnt have any clue that picking sniper as pos 5 for role tokens is a bad thing whatsoever
Another match against an unbeatable comp.
>>553664174>BEFOREDURING
>>553664568How do you known when someone is from Peru?
>>553664779Subtly ask him if he has flooring.
>>553664779Looking at their profiles to see the peru flag, spanish name, confirmation bias
>>553664962how does he not get robbed
>>553664962
I haven't played since they released the new characters, think the next big update is gonna remodel the existing characters that still hasn't received an update to their designs?As well as more map changes, specifically the base, and jungle camps and shit have more variety in designs?This shit ain't releasing til 2027 ain't it?
>>553665179He's ready to protect his fumos by all means necessary.
>>553665393>holes everywhere>no window cover>no flooringw-what happens when it rains
15 minutes
>>553665980you were 1 game away from ranking up and got placed in the loser queue as a result
>>553665980so why did you lose your lane hmmm
>>553666273Me + first time Yamato Vs Paige and turret McGinnis.
>>553666412skill issue
>>553664428kiwis are the russians of OCE
>>553663602will valve add WASD to dota?
>>553666487But why am I playing against people without a similar skill issue?
>>553664962how does he unironically afford his gaming setup? the electricity bill. how does he pay it
If you do incredibly well in lane and destroy their guardian, but your other lanes are getting their shit pushed in, while both of your enemy laners keep pushing against you, and you're a solo queuer that doesn't trust your lane partner holding it down on their own (if they don't also leave themselves), what do you do? Is letting your guardian die to save your retarded teammates from dying worth it?
Geist’s white bush
>>553666720He's probably a streamer
What's a Calico build that stays consistent even until super late game? Im currently bursting with her ult and some ice aoe shit, but it stops insta killing past the 40 minute mark
>>553666904seekers are cute
>>553666830she probably doesnt wipe her hairy shithole either
>>553664962>>553665393>>553666720>>553666883He's a streamer, I reverse image searched and found this No way he's not getting robbed (with him not having any windows) after being interviewed by what's apparently the biggest Spanish speaking YouTube channel https://youtu.be/DFQdd0boNqE
>>553666904gun and/or melee
>>553664779AYY PE RECONCHETUMARE YA ES GG ESTA HAZE ES UNA MIERDA
>>553666635allowing players to swap lanes was a mistake
>>553666904melee/spirit hybrid is alright, but calico is gonna noticeably fall off past 30 minutes no matter what
>>553667235Why would she need to? When I’m her bidet
>>553667395But neither me nor then swapped lanes. What are you talking about?
>In Vindicta's line of sight for 1 second>-1000+ HP
>>553659689>who is billy
aint no way that nigga just called billygoat a horse
Bros the marvel rivals general is laughing at our dead game
>>553668137Who are you talking about?
>>553668094>goat>horse motif
>>553649985>New mode is a lazy fucking ARAM lane>Not 2 lane NYC>Not payload w/ side objectives>Not even point cap KotH CTF any other shooter mode with less MOBA emphasis>ARAMThis shit is not finding an audience kek. Filtering people who can't aim, read, bhop, teamfight, macro, aren't white, need 45 continuous minutes to set aside like bruh are we fucking serious? I am not playing 30 minute lock or ARAM cookie clicker. Be so for real do you think this game is actually going to hit on release?
>>553668170Marvel Rivals = McDonald’s and SodaDeadlock = Caviar and Champagne
>>553668170good, we deserve it
>>553668170>>553668890Most Rivals players are blacks on their PS5s who only play the game because the women have fat assesMost Overwatch players are trannies who are probably wearing chastity cages while erping in a discord call as a healslut MercyDeadlock is a white man's game where you actually have to strategize and think about what you're doing>>553669043This is winnable
>>553669159>This is winnableIt's not.
>>553669228>7-0 haze>0-6 shivkino
>>553669279Yeah, I don't know how to play Shiv.
>>553669043I've seen worse pull through
>>553669228Nvm
>>553669228maybe try not feeding next time
>>553669228>>553669279>Haze daggers you, has the tier 1 "remove 1 stamina on wakeup">Heavy melees you>Warden tosses his purple flask at you on that exact moment>He has the "-1stamina bar" upgrade on it as wellHow do you respond without sounding mad?
>>553669708be lash and still have enough stamina to grapple away
>>553669692How? Just abandon the guardian and then the walker?
When will Valve crack down on bigotry in Deadlock?https://youtu.be/s_UM4Kk0XSM>I'm just communicating with my teammates just like anyone else, calling things out etc. but was met with this sort of harassment. It was clearly charged with some sort of homophobia, but they wouldn't directly say it of course. >Harassment like this in any game happens, yes I know.>I could have muted comms, yes I know>But then again, I shouldn't have to?>They actually said much worse earlier on in the game, Quite racist things. but I honestly was focused on winning and could care less. >I actually quite enjoy deadlock, so I don't really want this game to be ANOTHER one of those games where this sort of harassment isn't taken seriously. Whether it be as a community or by the DEV/Community team or whatever. >If you're going to harass someone like this, At least be good at the game.PLEASE.>I shouldn't have any sort of fear when it comes to talking in a game bruh
>>553666753Guardians dont matter, flipping a shit lane is hard to do but potentially game winning
>>553669708THE STONE OBEYSI'M NOT GOING DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT
>>553670045>2 year long videocan you post it in tik tok length please or give the timestamp of the highlight
>>553670045>10 viewsbuy an ad homo
>>553670204It's some Paige tranny being made fun of for having a stereotypical gay voice
>>553669945Abandoning guardian is fine, you should be able to defend at walker though, and your teammates should help when able.
>>553649918yes
>>553670459Just start smoking
How do you both survive and deal damage as Shiv?
>>553668890how can a creature like that have ZERO tits and still be so fuckable
>>553671264play the dagger build with radiant
>>553670045hey maybe im in this vid, not gonna watch either waymet some passive aggressive tranny page player (thought it was just a gay man with the voice) and made fun of him being a little bitch that shuts down once someone actually calls his shit outconveniently leaving out what he said in the vid, so noone can argue hes a bitch for shittalking and getting trashed in the process
>Going back to base>Hear enemy farming in our camp>Chase him>The rest of the enemy team shows up and kills me>Turns out I accidentally went on the enemy side of the mapThe map being almost perfectly symmetrical is seriously fucking with me even 800 hours in.
>>553671264Learn to hit your fucking knives, especially on the same target. Build tier 3 greens before rushing any tier 4s: Spirit Res, Debuff Remover, Counter-Spell, Warpstone/Metal Skin. ABL and together have good spirit/tank knife builds
>>553671492I see... I see!We'll be adding huge neon arrows on where to go next update, I hope you love that.
Why is dedicated jungle animal not designed to be a real role in this game?
>>553670045Are paige players the biggest wussies ever? This is just basic banter, they're not even being mean. Of course the loser doesn't include his voice.
>>553671320Smaller boobs = bigger heart
>>553671264heres my basic bitch shiv build that works in phantom very well, you just gotta hit knivesbuy decay if you face a lot of tanks/heal, never throw it on victorresists/spellbreaker/leech make you incredibly tanky, youre basically impossible to kill 1v1 and bleed everyone out by applying healbane/ee to three people at once
>>553670429It was posted in the discord, I thought it was funny
>>553671492I have over 1000 hours, after a really hectic midboss fight I’m fleeing and getting chased. And with rapists hot on my tail, in all the confusion I never noticed I fled to the enemy base.
>>553671492the only time i have this is when i exit the midboss areathree floors with rotating stairways, ropes and ledges is such a clusterfuck
>>553672276I'm convinced this is why some rejuvenator teams fail, they get lost after exiting the underground
>>553671320The personality theory is true.
>>553671320she's a fantastical creature that doesn't exists in real life: a woman who is a good person
>>553671492>>553672160Twice now I've had teammates walk into enemy fountain by mistake
>>553671492>>553672160This has only ever happened to me on Drifter after using his 2It's not hard to keep direction if you aren't teleporting
>553668512you sound like a faggot
>>553673910Meant for >>553668512
>>553649985>EACH ROUNDthis is what artifact should have been
>>553671492it happened to me once but i wanted to push the lane and didnt notice it was my own
Which hero do you think has the better flowing kit? I feel like some characters have kits that just don't really mesh well together, but Lash is a good exemple of a kit where everything just flows so nicely together for me.
>>553675760*farts*
>>553675760it's definitively lash, no arguing about thati think billy, pocket, paradox and bepop flow well too though
>>553675760Doorman is the king of kit
>>553671760https://youtu.be/VTbAhIK8H44his voice
For months I didn't understand why my shots weren't registering and my frames felt choppy, but last night I turned on Vulcan and it was night and day.No more choppy frames and my shots started registering.Imagine.Why the fuck is hitreg tied to frame smoothness?
>>553675760Mirage easily>open with the impactful scarabs, stealing hp for the comming engagement>seamlessly transition into a tornado, disrupting the enemy's gameplan and applying a strong evasion buff that effectively doubles the stolen hp>begin to stack mark, it takes a while but thats ok because of the massive sustain provided by the first two skills combination>the enemy has fled from your super efficient trade, but you teleport to them using the reveal provided by your mark, finishing them flawlessly and cementing your status as the superior flow
>>553675760Pocket, Lash, Calico, Paradox have very well thought-out combos. Yamato too maybe.I'd argue against Bebop because he's intentionally anti-synergy with his retarded ass kit meant to "subvert expectations".
>>553671492do you niggers not look at the minimap every 2 seconds
>>553676443I'm 2 busy looking at ur mum giving me gluk thru my jorts
>>553676413>he's intentionally anti-synergy with his retarded ass kit meant to "subvert expectations".what?the only awkward thing about it is the ult (which does make some sense so he can have long-range options), the rest flows perfectlyhook into bomb, hook into punch, bomb creep to punch them into enemies, hook + bomb + puncheverything just works with everything else (excluding the ult)
>>553676638Nta but hook into punch feels unituitive. I pull you closer only to knock you away again? Its displacement for displacement sake, it would make more sense if it were a slow or something
>>553675938I only needed to hear 5 seconds of xer to conclude that if I heard that on my team I would intentionally throw
>>553676856You know you can turn 180 degrees while pulling someone with hook so you can fling them into your towers or teammates right
>>553676856You can do a 180 to uppercut them further into your side of the map though
>>553676638nta but bebop feels bad to play>point click bombshould be a sentient throwable that leaps onto enemies faces within range and booby traps an area>wind up laser gun>clunky KILLMEIMHEREKILLME ultimatehis pull and knock are fine though
>>553676971>>553676981Yes I know that but to me a hooker thematically should be pulling you close to molest you Pudge will hook into ult, bebop Will hook into knockup(up not back) Im not saying that its bad or they should change it, just that it doesnt really flow intuitively. The turn knockback thing is not something new players do automatically unless they played roadhouse in ow(which would mean they aren't really "new")
>>553677389>hooker thematically should be pulling you close to molest you>mentions Roadhog who also doesn't do that uhhEven Sylvanus in Smite doesn't really do that, his hook is a followup for his root so his team can secure the kill.
>>553677624? A root is on brand for molesting, roadhog has a shotgun. The hook is to move the target close range, I was just saying immediately undoing that is weird
>>553677760I think makoa in paladins has a knockback ability too with his shell spin and he's another hook character
>retard goes 0/5 and loses walker in 5 mins>starts sitting in the fountain to blame the team>notice british english spelling>look at profile>New Delhi, India
>>553677760the hook in bepop's case is so you can plant a bomb in their buttholesince this is a shooter, it makes sense that you wouldn't want them roght next to you constantly as well, and the knockup helps you fuck with the opponent's positioning even further (like throwing them into your objective/team, or throwing them with a bomb into the rest of their team) while giving you free potshots
>>553677936I played a lot of makoa actually and it was more often for movement but you are right. But that also wasnt really a "flow kit" where everything fits together, you wouldnt want to knock someone back immediately after hooking most times
>>553678089What servers are you playing on to get Indians?
>>553677389>my pre conceived abstract notion was not met therefore it doesn't flowBebop flows great. The problem is balancing him
>>553678560Flow is subjective so preconceived notion is literally how you would judge it
>>553678332not him but theyre everywhere and overly nationalistic
>>553676971>>553676638The reason Bebop is so bad right now is that he can hook someone and, unless he has backup, he can't kill them by himself at all and will most likely lose most trades. Traditionally, hook heroes are slow tanks that WANT to keep people close to them, but Bebop wants people close to him just to get his bomb on them, and then he wants to get away from them, which is where you'd expect the Uppercut to come in, but IMO it doesn't help enough.
>>553672160>>553672276That indeed was after we got Midboss. I was so mad at myself.
>>553678332Indians are a zombie apocalypse level threat. They're spreading.
>>553678332SEA, its 50% chinese names but most of them might be taiwanese
>>553671492I have Holiday lassoed an enemy into their own walker before
>>553679442>>553671492they're going to be adding team specific walker/trooper models next patch as well as more asymmetrical detailing so it should get easier
>>553679185yeah because yoshit nerfed everything but the hookwhich has a 10 second cooldown and longer range than any ability bar infinite range abilities and it's also more range than the effective range of any gun yet it's never nerfed
>>553671919What about ability order?
>>553679775knives, then id take ult next for finishers, dash, then passiveas this is a knife focused build you can just stay at midrange, hit some knives to get rage up and just watch them bleed to deathsuperior duration is also pretty nice when youre going for EE, cause healbane and EE are applied to possibly three people with every knife you land
>>553680041What about Mystic Shot? I never buy it because I can never land it.
>>553649985>best of 5 roundsIF this is real they should change it to best of 3
>>553679185>>553679772>bebop badI haven't played for about a month and in all 4 of my phantom 6 games yesterday there were people complaining about bebop being hitler, and the bebop team won 3/4 times
>>553680486done.
>>553680536a character can deal no damage and still be good when it has a 10s CD hook with 60m+ range
>>553680536If you can land hooks he is hitler. If you can't land hooks he's worse than useless.
>>553680694his bombs deal a lot of damagehis ultimate deals the most dps of anything in the game
>>553680178you shoot people with it, scales with spirit and youre stacking spirit
>>553681061I think I'll go with Kinetic Dash instead.
>>553681101then play your build
>>553681061Why do shivs stack spirit even?>knife spirit scaling sucks>bloodletting is an alternative source of dmg reduction meaning stacking other dmg reduction is op because no diminished returns>ult is % executeThe only thing you get is a beefy slice and dice
>>553681435cause landing two knives is half of someones hp, then you dash/mystic shot and press ult
>>553678763Its not the flow part that im arguing against, its "what a hook character is"Pure vibe bullshit claim
>>553681774it'd be funny as fuck if gun rem became viable
>>553682209they might give him something unusable because of his size but every other support hero has had a viable gun build
553681960autism
>>553682349yeah i know but surely this time they won't give rem a good gun
i don't think yoshi is going to let us know "a few days" before launchthey'll likely just drop it.
>>553681682The base dmg combo wouldnt be all that different because of said scaling, only the dash would hit less noticeably hard
>>553682502if they learned anything at all from doorman it's that support/utility type heroes should not ship with very good guns.hard problem to solve though because you are going to be useless for the first 5 minutes if the game if you have a 20 dps gun.
>>553682669innate monster rounds like how paige has piercing shots for trooper cleanup?
yoshi should replace the unicorn whore with a bad ass pirate captain
>>553682940port dredge into deadlock i want to spam broadside
>>553682940Actually, thats a really cool idea.I'll just delay the patch a few weeks to work that out
>>553668890IMAGINE being so fat you see at computes food
>>553674328nobody cares queer
>>553683067give him a flintlock gun and charge a canon ball for his 1 or something
Even play with in Infernus like this? This is at 33 minutes.
>>553683602That poor Infernus is playing with an ESL so I don't blame him.
>bebop, the most easily countered hero in the game, is not dog shit for one patch (still can't carry)>everyone's having a meltdown about himThis robot is simply not allowed to be playable
>>553683298oh also a wise ass talking parrot that gets angry whenever rem goes on the captains shoulder saying stuff like "get off you overgrown chicken"
>>553683602that's like 60% of infernus players.
>>553683703
>Bebop slaps two bombs on my ass>I have debuff remover
>>553682940>>553683056his ult is to just eating a single lime to heal a shitton of HP because he has scurvy
>>553683912hope you have counterspell too for when your FUCKING TEAMMATE hugs you with two bombs on them
Your DBR is on cooldown for 50 seconds, your Counterspell for 20.My bomb is on 8 seconds
>>553684034victor 2 here we come
>>553684264>this place sucks
>>553684495ABRAMS VINDICTA IS A MINOR NOOOOOOOOOO
>>553684323Thats what my witchmail and resto locket rush was forBetter luck next time
>>553684495Uhhh... His penis is actually way up there. And it's small.
>>553671264I didn't feed this time, but I still couldn't manage to kill anyone outside of 2 occasions. Is Shiv supposed to farm?
>time manipulation character>no recall what the FUCK
>>553684973what build are you using? are you doing proper ability leveling orders? Shiv effortlessly shits out damage because of his damage amplification on rage, which also affects items.Shiv's only skill check is to hit knives. Make sure you get knives to max level ASAP and work on your accuracy. His rage builds up way faster through spirit damage than weapon damage, so it's imperative you land your abilities.No, Shiv doesn't need to farm as a carry does, just do it when you have free time or you're close to an item.3 levels into knife and then 3 levels into ultimate is the usual, but you can also put 2 levels into dash before maxxing ultimate if you'd like, but it might affect your early kill snowball potential.
>>553685682>what build are you using?This >>553671919, but with Kinetic Dash instead of Mustic Shot because I know for a fact that I will land it at best 4-5 times in a match.>are you doing proper ability leveling orders?I don't know, do I?>Shiv effortlessly shits out damage because of his damage amplification on rage, which also affects items.That match didn't have 1v1s, the enemy team deathballed 2 of out walkers by minute 20, so I didn't have a chance to try it out before everyone how overfed.
>>553685670Yeah it's pretty disappointing how she is more about gravity than time
>>553671919>radiant regenerationnigga whattry torment pulse instead of that, and surge of power instead of decaygo spirit lifesteal instead if anything, and it'll build into leech toorapid recharge IMO is optional, you're practically paying 2400 for just 1 more knife, even improved spirit might be better (and it builds into boundless)
>>553685940>1 point into dash and 1 point into bloodlettingdo not do this until you max your knivesdo not put points into bloodletting at all in fact, until you max your knives and ultimate at the very least
>>553686284Why? Doesn't feel right. Cooldowns are everything.
>>553682940An undead pirate captain that came back to life like Vindicta. Actually looks like an undead and speaks in piratese. Please, Gaben.
>>553686441>melees soul orb>"YAR these booty be mine!"
>>553686393you're delaying max knives (biggest powerspike) by two boons, in exchange for extremely minor upgrades. You ideally need to have your best damage online as early as possible. Keep in mind max knives is more damage than dash, and faster rage.something else I forgot to mention is that you're missing out on your 4.8k gun investment spike. Shiv has a very good gun that's made even better by rage amp. Cultist sacrifice is an S+ item for that
Do not listen to that guy
>>553664428How is it playing in OCE? Moving fron burger continent to there shortly, eternus 3 peak.
I recently had an epiphany >trying out lash and lane against an oracle victor>rape him three ways to sunday>he disappears while we slowly win>he shows up with 50k and a negative k/d and single handedly carries his team to victory>decide to watch his POV to see how he did it>he constantly mistimes sinners, never wall jumps or crouch mantles, fucks up his dash jump; I'm genuinely wondering how we lost to this>he literally just ignores everything and does camps, even going against the "never miss a wave" claim>queue up victor and do the exact same thing and copy his buy order>teammates getting killed? Not my problem. Walker under attack? Gotta get this T3 first. >win through sheer soul diff as I take all their campsSo this is what people meant by "turn your brain off".
Had this conversation with randos in a match, does anyone else have songs they like to have playing in the background while they play? I've got some favourites that I like to listen to while playing specific characters to get into the mindset, post yours if you have any>Wardenhttps://youtu.be/RKlYW5oCQFI>Drifterhttps://youtu.be/4H6rwSwW6eQ>Abramshttps://youtu.be/Mv0htJ0tgsU>Bebophttps://youtu.be/mMEMrqAEIIo>Victorhttps://youtu.be/a565TV9TLMw>Shivhttps://youtu.be/IyUXfE0O3LA>Billyhttps://youtu.be/b9x_DpXkhVw>Yamatohttps://youtu.be/onquKz5SYRs>Lashhttps://youtu.be/fGL-7FjqRF4
>>553645358inhouse?
>>553688410they really ne ed to tone down hard carries or add a way so we know when they are farming our camps because someone can just vanish for the entire match, not interact at all and win.happened to me a few days ago against a wraith. we had all our guardians up and we even took mid walker. team decided to farm instead of keeping up the pressure, enemy wraith just fucked off and came back mega fed and won the whole game by herself.
>>553689468>or add a way so we know when they are farming our campsholy fuck please just look at your map
>>553689468We need better catch-up mechanics. The urn simply doesn't work because someone like Drifter can easily control the entire map if given even a slight advantage.
>>553689674They just nerfed the catch-up mechanics because they were too strong.
>>553688590 A long time ago I was interested in music in how it related to increased performance. They have the well known link between classical and iq(i prefer handel) but beyond that was bpm and its effect on preformanceFaster music lead to faster actions, seemed straightforward enough, but dosis sola facit venenum, the gains were not linear. The sweet spot from my research was 145-155 bpm. This just happened to be a fairly common hardstyle bpm, which is now my go to for gaming
>>553690215I find hardstyle definitely fits really well but it tends to get me lost in the energy of the moment. For adderalcore gameplay that's fine, but for example the Abrams song chugs along with a rhythm that I find suits how you should pace your decision making, especially in lane. High-bpm stuff allows you clarity when you're phrenetic, but for premeditated thinking having something more lucid is better imo
>>553688076It's fine as long as you aren't a giga sweat looking to play the sweatiest games. Player pool is small, but its fine if you are an average player anyway.Will be even better with the eventual avoid list
>>553688590I usually listen to smooth jazz. Keeps me relaxed and stops me from tilting or making stupid plays. Fits quite nicely with the games aesthetic too
what the fuck do you even do on vindicta if you're not already stomping
>>553692640alch fire/stake spam plus debuff items and just give them cancer.
I always get my man
>>553688076>Moving fron burger continent to there shortlyyou have no idea how much i envy you right now
PATCH STATUS?
>>553693087>20 hp>press 2>"i am not dying in new york">wallboost with stam mastery>get flung to the other side of the mapi love tanking with movement tech
