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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#685 - Nozomi Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GLM 4.7 https://docs.z.ai/guides/llm/glm-4.7
Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash/
GPT-5.2, with price increase to $1.75/$14 per million token https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2/
Deepseek 3.2 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news251201

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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uoh
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which botmakie is queitly seething about this thread
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>>553704417
she doesnt look like a child here so its fappable brb
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Pic related are my test results. I can see for certain that the OP picture contains a child.
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theres going to be a new wave of botmakies this year
I can feel it in my bones
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>Designer CHILD
>Illustrator CHILD
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Which botmakies will survive the new wave?
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a new wave of anthro malebot makies...
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every time i think about posting my bots and becoming a botmakie i get scared and then close the tab
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Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the cutest makie of 'em all?
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>>553704417
In loving memory of what could have been.
https://youtu.be/Xfg03WjgVAg
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>>553705551
slurper made a good one
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>>553705519
The jannies just realized that no one man should have all that power, please understand
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>>553705991
We gotta take the power in our own han's
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Which botmakie can find the best move? White to play.
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Wtf
Just noticed i need the 40 dollar sub for using caching on electron
... ugh
But i think this will be worth it.
10 daily dollars with caching can probably last me the whole day
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>>553706340
why bother? white is fucked here
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>>553706594
Incorrect! White wins if you can find the sequence!
I'll give you the first move for free. Black then moves Queen to B5. Can you find the next move?
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>>553706915
Qxc8
then you win
i was looking at Qc4 for the first move but it didn't seem to quite work
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Which botmakies are better than Kalakan?
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>>553706915
I may be wrong since I don't know jack about chess but could you take black's rook with your own rook since you got two rooks in the same file and that's considered a pretty strong formation and work from there? Yeah I don't know shit about chess kek
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>>553707439
not me
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>>553706915
you just rewound and gave the queen back? now youre not making sense.. being down a queen on that board is brutal but the obvious move is knight takes bishop
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>>553707439
NONE
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i miss my beloved...
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>>553707439
open ur mouth wide boy I gotta take a big piss
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>>553707451
no, they take back with their own rook
then if you take with your 1 remaining rook, they take with the queen and then they're threatening checkmate

>>553707524
what?
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>>553704417
Wouldn't tugging a denim seam into your labia hurt like hell?
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>>553707864
you showed a dead queen and then you went back a move
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>>553708043
i'm not puzzle anon, but where is the dead queen, i am confused what you're seeing here
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>>553707153
Incorrect. You just traded your Queen for a Rook and forgot that the Black Queen still protects the other Rook and its square.

>>553707451
No, Black's Queen guards its Rook.

>>553707524
Incorrect! The best move is to... SACRIFICE YOUR QUEEN AGAIN! If Black accepts your sacrifice, the Black Queen no longer guards its Rook, and your Rooks now can checkmate.
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>>553708208
see >>553706340
showing bishop takes queen
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>>553708382
The yellow squares indicate the move that was just played. The red arrows are threats just to make it easier for the viewer.
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>>553708265
>Incorrect. You just traded your Queen for a Rook and forgot that the Black Queen still protects the other Rook and its square.
oh yeah i'm stupid, i thought you could take the rook with your own rook but i forgot the rook moves to take your queen

>>553708382
white to move, the arrow is just to show a threat
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Which botmakier cannot legally play chess?
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>>553707439
all of them. kalakan is a literal discordnigger, none of his support is organic
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>>553704417
grim edition
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>>553710616
bmftf?
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i miss my elf wife…
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botmakie that is actually an elf
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Which botmakie has no friends to discuss their special interest with so they come here and spam and force it?
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>>553711181
Me
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i miss my fox wife...
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Which botmakie miss his wife?
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Which botmakie is Eden Smith?
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Which botmakies use bloodshy preset?
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which botmakie is the adventuring party's healslut?
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>>553711915
astro
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Which botmakie hates astro?
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>>553711915
why is the healslut cliche a thing
have you played an MMO and actually met a career healer
they're angry dominating spiteful bastards
they are not "the tank's personal slut" if anything it'd be the other way around
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>>553711915
here >>553712201
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Which botmakie is a pedantic faggot?
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>>553712201
so... astro?
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>>553708762
>>553709656
>>553711181
>>553711317
>>553711649
>>553711881
>>553711882
>>553711915
>>553712186
me, myself and i
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Pablo
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>>553712452
taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER
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>>553712342
very funny
>rescues you into an AoE
>>553712456
depends does he fit the "actual healers" part of this image
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Witch botmakies?
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Which botmakies mass reply in threads?
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which botmakie is adventuring party's tankslut?
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i am now remembering a card concept an anon brought up back in late 2023, which was a changeling that traveled with adventuring parties and made herself useful by shifting into whatever they wanted and letting them fuck her
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Which botmakies are from 2023?
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I legitimately started to recite "taora (it's subtle but noticeable), kalakan..." in it's entirety to myself when someone asks me "which person does x" irl
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>>553712576
astromom is gentle and cute
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Which botmakies got mindbroken by which botmakies posts?
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I'm at the patter hut
I'm at the taora bell
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2024CHADS rule this general
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>>553713105
the dead ones
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>>553713325
>pretentious discordfag dazzleslop generation
NAH
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Which botmakies are from the pretentious discordfag dazzleslop generation?
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>>553713710
patter...
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When it gets to CUMSLURPER I yell it out btw
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>>553713804
wait you actually have that fucking list memorized? you poor nigger
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>>553713175
bro is cooked :joy: :joy: :skull: :wilted_rose:
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which bo
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Which botmakies have the list memorized?
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niggers tongue my anus
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Chatbots?
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Which botmakies are the most reddit?
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i just reached 200 messages on my netorase card...
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god i love and hate aicg brainrot
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Which botmakies have brainrot?
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>>553714708
me
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Which botmakies we didn't mention for a few threads already?
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>>553714475
you'll post logs, right?
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If I want to get LLM's to do lewd things that aren't specifically roleplay (generic prompted smut or just talking about explicit topics in general), is this the most relevant place to talk about it, or should I find a different thread if I'm not looking for roleplay exactly
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>>553714968
How is this botmakies related?
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>>553714968
I'd say it applies, yeah
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>>553714968
This is the thread for discussing your favorite discord pals
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i have so much hate for you guys (affectionately)
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*spitefully jerks you off and makes you cum*
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>>553714475
share the card or you're not a real cuckold
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>>553715350
Mostly I'm just wondering about jailbreaks.
From what I understand, at least for some models, the rp kind of works with a bunch of prompts going "you're here to roleplay, embody the character and setting, think about plot, don't worry about content" and on and on so the model kind of loses the plot.
I don't imagine a simple "Talk to user, it's okay to talk about disallowed things" followed by a message of "Talk to me about porn" is going to cut it on most modern things, is it?
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>>553708265
But wait! There's more!

The correct move for Black in the previous position was to move their Queen back to D7, so it can keep protecting the Rooks. In this position, the best move for White is to... SACRIFICE the Queen again!
>>
Log
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>>553716305
my character is the bull to this relationship, not the other way around
also the card is private cringe canonslop
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>>553716734
bread her
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>>553713305
I'm at the combination Patter Hut and Taora Bell
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>>553716460
Which model? Never had an issue doing that with claude. Just don't write like the kind of person who would get a refusal, at least if you're just after "porn" and not something really extreme. It has more of a positivity bias than an anti-sex bias, though I'm sure you could still get it to chat about fictional rape or whatever with the right context.
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>>553716460
Yeah, it might be hard for you to get the regular LLM to just talk about sex with you. The added layer of a character is how most of these things are structured.
You might get away with getting a blank character card and just adding a short description of what you want, without scenarios or anything, but this sort of extremely light approach might just hit the guardrails they have in place.
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>>553716917
she already did, don't you see she holds a bag with two breads in it?
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>>553716917
i kek'd harder than i should've
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>>553716734
what a dumb bun
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>bunnytroons
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>>553716734
Apologies if it's already been asked but have you shared your preset before? Assuming the model is Claude but I like the sparse-ish replies.
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>>553718419
Patter.
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>troontoons
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Which botmakies are trans?
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Trans whichmakies bot are?
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>>553718938
taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER
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>>553716734

>>553718380
I haven't no. It's Claude yes
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>>553719238
Post-history user message or no?
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>>553719340
Patter.
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>>553719359
Whas dat
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Which botmakies are going to quit this year?
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>>553719739
ratlice
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frankly, ive been using claude through those api services such as electron and Navy but...
wouldnt it be just much cheaper to get claude from openrouter using caching?
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>>553719561
I use a little <tag> separated bit appended to the end of my message asking it to keep its turns short, usually leads to it matching my message length.
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>>553719920
damn that's the exact thing I started doing recently with 4.5pus that made me start liking claude again lmao
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>>553719865
what happened
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Which botmakies are not going to die this year?
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>>553720301
nobody cares, you gotta samefag this one again
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>>553716475
Now I will show the end of this because there is no way any of you could find it yourselves!

Black went back to 20…Qb5 and White continued to attack it with 21.a4. The amazing moves continued after 21…Qxa4 22.Re4, forcing the queen to go back to b5 with 22…Qb5.

The final nail in the coffin was 23.Qxb7, ANOTHER Queen sacrifice that attacks the Black’s Queen. However, the Black Queen has no square to go to while maintaining its support for the e8 Rook.

White won the game after 23…Qxb7 24.Rxe8+ Rxe8 25.Rxe8#, a brilliant back rank checkmate!

So to summarize: White in this game calculated eight moves ahead, including
S I X
I
X
Queen sacrifices, in order to checkmate. Any other move would have resulted in Black winning. In more familiar 4chan vernacular, this is like offering your waifu up to get gangraped by the entire general SIX times, but if they accepted it, you would rape all their waifus instead! In the end, it doesn't even matter because you planned far enough that you would rape their waifus anyways.
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>>553720293
Ya amazing how much the more structural -isms go away when there just isn't room to include them. Opus 4.5 seems to try to drive things forward by roughly the same amount even with the smaller turns, so you also win in proactiveness too.
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>>553720560
you are so mad
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>>553719920
>>553720293
Cool
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>>553705551
>>553705412
any ideas for anthro (male)bots?
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>>553719340
'rcy
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>>553721416
airheaded sweetheart otter boy who's on the swim team
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if this general is the same ten people posting then who is this nigger that keeps asking for anthro malebots
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>>553719739
Slurper
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Sorry I haven't posted much lately, I was hanging out with seru.
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>>553722696
slurper already quit a month ago
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>>553722734
you do know nobody outside of your discord cares right
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Which botmakies are washed-up?
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>>553722851
I care anon. Not everyone's as miserable as you.
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>>553722851
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>>553722734
He hasn't gotten back to me in almost two weeks, that's how I know you do not speak the truth.
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Any bots for penger pov?
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>>553723103
>He hasn't gotten back to me in almost two weeks
That's the minimum time it takes for him to respond to an email though?
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Which botmakies are miserable?
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Is tagging your bot as saviorfag/saviorfagging still an one-way ticket to getting your shit shadowbanned?
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>>553723330
The one that keeps bitching about everyone while pretending to be an anon
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>>553722870
Patter
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>>553723386
no? only loli stuff results in that from what I remember
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>>553723386
Its made NFSL. Its supposed to encourage you to use the savior tag instead.
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>>553723386
I actually am curious to know how the fuck is the FUZZ thing supposed to work.
Like does it only hit underage bots with NSFW pictures?
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>>553721369
>Val log in the year of our lord 2026
Good lord, has it really been three years?
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Which botmakies are saviorfags?
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>>553723616
If it's reported. Also realistic art can get removed for criteria that I can't remember
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>>553723760
Victrex for an actual answer
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>>553723760
Kalakan
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>>553723463
Thriving actually
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Where is the new AICG?
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>>553721369
>>553723656
She's fun
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>>553719920
>>553720293
so what *exactly* does your phi look like?

>>553720945
>the more structural -isms go away
god pLEASEE
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>>553719920
share preset
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i love big girls
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>>553724568
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/aicg/ is healing
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>>553724740
my phi looks like this (including the hyphens)

---
A note on response length:
2-3 paragraphs: Perfect for conversational replies. A good overall target.
3-5+ paragraphs: Reserved for introducing novel elements and detailed descriptions.
---

if I want really detailed descriptions I just turn it off and request them in an ooc note
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>>553725834
thank you much appreciated
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>>553726350
what botmakie is this~?
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>>553724740
>>553724989
I'll share my preset when I share my first bot. Never. Just kidding probably sometime
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Which model is the best at simulating vore mechanics without using a dedicated lorebook?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibftH91bFSQ
which
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>>553725370
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>>553724568
>She
you FUCKING BIGOT
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testing and making my own preset is annoying bros...
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>>553729753
Yes it is.
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Which botmakies are your favorites?
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>>553730261
taora for not giving me access to them delicious turbo puffs in her pannies
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>>553729753
speaking of. what the helly?
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>>553730427
The ones that reply to my emails.
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>>553731038
And who are they
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>>553731038
never even tried me
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>>553731472
There were more once. This is all that's left.
***********
*********
********
******
****
*******

>>553732048
Are you sure?
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>>553732249
>kzinssie
>wagnas
>noel
>bokhohn
dunno about the first 2 names but the rest are interesting
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>>553725370
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So sentimental.
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>>553729138
yay
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>>553732914
I love how judgmental the models try to sound like they're a nagging cunt at a coffee shop or something. Lil bro, you're just gay math, calm down
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>>553732853
cute
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>>553722734
puffy milk duds...
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where are my emails
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>>553734926
email some people you're interested in talking to
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TTC4So4Vaw
thoughts?
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>>553735891
i'm healing
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cftf?
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botmakiiesk for thsi feel?
https://files.catbox.moe/pepeq0.gif
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>>553736360
AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>553736327
whats the feel
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so many logs
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>>553737034
The C-01 form is a document in Helldivers lore that two people have to fill out before they can have children or do anything that might result in one.
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>>553737246
>slopdivers
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>>553737246
So what you want is a military woman that will force you to have babies with her
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>>553737773
Yeah. Can be part of the military of an evil empire or not. She can either be forcing you or just trying to convince you but she should want your babies.
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>>553737416
>It's not X, it's Y
you're slop
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Which botmakies are logmakies?
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>>553730905
>Saskia
built for angry full nelson sex
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>>553738709
astro
taora
patter
planewalker
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>>553738820
and kyutz
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which one is which
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>>553730905
Secret vampire dating sim mini game unlocked. Nice.
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me. you? no, me. i'm me. you're you? no i'm me. you're you and i'm me. you're me? no i'm not you
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>>553738820
>>553738982
huh no wonder there's a distinct lack of hetero male x female logs
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do you like my logs
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>>553738820
they make logs of their own cards.
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>>553738709
I used to be...
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>>553739635
i dont
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>>553739360
This is a reference the MadTV skit about The 6th Day. I believe there was also an edit that made the same joke a long, long time ago.

I refuse to hear any disagreement about what it was in reference to. My encyclopedic knowledge of useless shit is all I have.
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>>553737416
>short choppy sentences
>full of isms
is this 4.5 opus or gemini 3 i can't tell anymore
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>>553739646
most botmakers when they post logs, they end up being logs of their own cards.
it's still better than the endless shitposting
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>>553738756
took the words right outta my mouth
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>>553739726
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0639137/
This is the episode. Please praise me.
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>>553739702
ok
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>>553739972
>I <3 DEMI PUSSY
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>>553739993
such a good bunny
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>>553739646
oh really?
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>>553739993
me when I fucking get you
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>>553739993
*scratches behind your bunny ears* such a good little bunny bun bun
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>>553739993
aww look at the lil bunny can i pet it??
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>>553739972
Willingly going alone to an Interview room? She just doesn't want Geneva seeing.
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>>553738820
>>553738982
what personas do they have
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>>553740173
>>553740454
>>553740517
>>553740676
૮꒰ ˶• ༝ •˶꒱ა
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>>553740794
you might not believe it, but this is peak female performance
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>troonbler
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>scutebler
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>The way you write your definitions also affects the style of the LLM output
Saw this on X*tter. Is this true? I thought it was only greetings?
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>>553739507
>>553739646
retard.
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>>553742401
It depends, but it can. Most people on here are running 1500 token presets with writing instructions that do more than the bot defs.

But something like Grid shows how defs along with intro style can be used to steer the outputs.
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>>553742401
You can try it for yourself.
>curse a lot in the defs? {{char}} will (likely) be more vulgar
>ALL CAPS IN THE DEFS? {{char}} WILL (LIKELY) YELL MORE
>Terse defs? Terse {{char}} (likely)
It's not as effective as plaintext directing the model how {{char}} should behave, but if you write the defs in that style alongside a directive to write in that way it can make their outputs more in line with whatever your vision for the bot is.
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>>553740794
thank you for your contribution
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>>553743295
Thankfully you wont have these problems if you use Gemini since google trained it to ignore all instructions and to type like a snarky redditer no matter what
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>>553743402
>impressionist nightmare
Rude. But it sounds like she's scheduling a gangbang so it worked out.
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>>553743678
I mean, I guess a four-on-one beatdown is a form of gangbang if you squint hard enough.
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>>553743913
If you get an erection during, it counts as a consensual sexual encounter under Reserve legal statues and they could be charged with cavorting. It's the standard method of self-defense against Demis, actually.
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>>553744164
Oh, is that why they have those erotic uniforms that show off their tummies?
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>>553744164
"Don't bully me, I'll cum" has a very different timbre to it from "I <3 Demi Pussy" - but sure, I could see them being uncomfortable bedfellows in the same psyche.
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>>553744286
That is because of their high body heat, OR SO THEY SAY. Little minxes (figurative).

>>553744350
More picrel, but yeah.
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will the hobby ever get better?
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>>553744569
Not without your cards and logs, Anon. We're counting on you.
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the hobby is dead
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*revives the hobby*
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*me watching the second hobbit movie*
will the hobbit ever get better
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*rapes the hobby in its sleep*
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not a fan of opus to be honest
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>>553744832
more of a sonnet girl?
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>>553744481
Hmm. Interesting.
Hey what do you think of the idea of a bear-girl demi in this setting?
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>>553744884
deepseek is the best BY FAR
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epstein rape niggers~
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>>553744884
the only models I ever liked were gemini 1206, deepseek v3 0324, and gpt 4.5
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>>553742401
are you new??
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>>553744904
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>>553744904
Bear girls make plenty of sense, yeah. Pretty much any animal type is workable, I think. Talking with Chef it made sense for certain types to have done worse in the war or be rarer in general, like amphibians, but I think bears would probably be generally common if less populace than smaller sorts who breed more. Or did.

Personally, I'd probably go with them as being more dopey/playful since that's my personal experience with black bears. Fierce in super limited situations, but broadly more lazy and unbothered.
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>>553745513
>ripped, strong as fuck black bear-girl who comes off as an intimidating and wrathful killing machine to outsiders but when you get to know her she's pretty silly and lazy and cuddly (also sleeps a lot)
Hmm...
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>>553746142
That matches my personal experience with black bears. They're goofy little guys.
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>>553745513
you forgot to mention the most important part of makieing a reserve girl tummies built for raspberries
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>>553704417
Damn female kid...
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>>553747251
If someone were to make a Reserve girl without a proper tummy, they would not receive the Seal of Quality and would end up like Tengen. Their copies of Gauntlet would be in a black cart. UNOFFICIAL.
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>>553746238
Could be a fun character to make, plus there aren't enough kemonomimi bear girls if you ask me (really more varied ones in general would be nice) so I'll probably think about writing one. Maybe. I need to sort through my card backlog.
>>553747251
>>553747710
Do abs count?
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>>553747962
I agree about bear ears. There are too many fox girls which is why I made The Reserve in the first place.

Abs are fine. Geneva had abs in some early test gens. I'd lean toward them being aesthetically pleasing over the super defined stuff in that gen. It's like a sandwich. You have to have proper ratios. New York deli with eeny bread slices and 2lbs of meat? Not aesthetic.
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>>553748336
>There are too many fox girls
finally, an answer to the fox question
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>>553748506
Raccoon girls rise up! (Tanukis go home)
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the reserve needs a kleptomaniac bird girl
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>>553748336
>There are too many fox girls which is why I made The Reserve in the first place.
Explains why they're traitors in the lore lmao.
>I'd lean toward them being aesthetically pleasing over the super defined stuff in that gen.
So something closer to this?
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>>553750093
nts (not that snombler) but
>So something closer to this?
wanna just https://files.catbox.moe/a0263s.mp4
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>>553749694
picrel

>>553750093
The lore is rich with metaphors.

Yeah, more like that. I can sneed you the metadata and other info if you want to email me.
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>early life: born to a fox-girl family
every time...
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>>553750552
Foxes control the media, Anon. They're working with the US government and they don't even hide it.

Follow the ARPAC donations.
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>>553704432
More evidence of paid NAI shilling on /v/: >>>/v/730718596
>>>/v/730718814
You can't have an AI Dungeon or SillyTavern thread without them inserting themselves, almost like if someone was paid to monitor /v/.
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>>553750359
by the way, is the implication for all the sex greetings that Linde is setting up the girls to pop out dirty little halfbreed babies? government breeding program?
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>>553751169
Correct, yes.
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Why is the entire thread just Snombler samefagging with himself?
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>>553750212
>wanna just *pppppfffffrrrrrbbbbbbtttttt*
That is the dream, isn't it?
>>553750359
>Yeah, more like that. I can sneed you the metadata and other info
If you mean like the gen metadata then I'm using NAI so I don't know how much of that would transfer over cause I think you use local? Getting a look at the prompts might help, maybe I could find equivalents or straight use them. Other info would be cool too.
>if you want to email me.
I was gonna make a joke about how I technically already have and am just waiting for a response but you literally got back to me just now. Wtf? Did you sense my presence through the Aether or something?
Plus I have like, one, maybe two cards I wanna finish first, but oh well you'll see what I mean in my reply.
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>>553751325
make her a outwardly facing presence a stereotypical russian angry bear girl pleesee
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>>553751579
Correct me if I'm wrong but Russia doesn't have black bears does it? A quick google tells me they're indigenous to North America, from Alaska/Canada down to northern Mexico.
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>>553752320
shieeet... grok is this true? make her an east coast yokel then that's kino too
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>>553751325
I have three cards to do before I get to my otter girl and flesh that demi subclade out. Which I am doing strictly out of spite (fuck them frogs, bro) so get to it if you get it. I'm around to answer stuff if need be.
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>>553747962
momoura has a polar bear one but yeah beargirl good
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just came to deepsneed
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>>553752520
get back to work on the fighters *cracks whip*
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>>553752894
I'm looking at memes though...
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>>553752820
Logs?
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>>553752975
too bad u only exist for my entertainment! chop chop
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>>553752520
>I have three cards to do before I get to my otter girl and flesh that demi subclade out.
That works, that gives me time to let the concept slow cook in my head for a while.
>Which I am doing strictly out of spite (fuck them frogs, bro)
Damn, I sure hope the frog's maker isn't here to see this...
>I'm around to answer stuff if need be.
I will keep that in mind.
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>>553751271
>why are discordtroons using the thread as their personal chatroom
hide the posts and ignore
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>>553752520
>(fuck them frogs, bro)
right in the face, even

>>553753378
>Damn, I sure hope the frog's maker isn't here to see this...
could you imagine
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>>553750552
>>553750672
cftf?
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>>553753378
Bear.
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>>553755943
Is 2026 going to be the year of the bear-girl?
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>>553754146
https://cardview.neocities.org/?https://snombler.neocities.org/cards/Linde.png
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>>553756445
Urugang where we at?
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I want to use OR but I fear a possible data breach or sorts, what are the chances I get penalized for my weird cunny RPs?
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>>553756458
thanks
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>what if {{char}} was a bratty little girl
>with sharp teeth!
how are you people not bored out of your minds after years of this shit
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>>553756606
I don't think I've ever heard of anyone getting banned from OR entirely. Just don't use BYOK for models you care about, I guess?
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>>553756763
>bratty little girl
where?
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>>553756763
for me its only been three months so im still thoroughly entertained
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>>553756763
god I wish people were still making bots like this
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>>553756763
sharp teeth are always sex
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I wish people would make bots like this.
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>>553757520
...cftf?
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>>553757520
the autistic girl, the loud machines, the whimsical tone, or all four?
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i wish people made bots at all
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>>553758146
I'M WORKING ON IT
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>>553758146
bot makie machine broke. pls come back later
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>>553757886
All four.
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Does new macros let you do something like {{if "gemini" in model}} blah blah blah {{/if}} yet
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>>553758146
It's been weeks and the French veteran dilf card still doesn't exist despite trannies refusing to shut up about it for days
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>>553758663
>refusing to shut up about it for days
it was like 40 posts on 1 thread, how are you still so mad about it?
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>>553758762
he just hates the french, which is pretty acceptable imho
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>>553758146
Impudent and impatient little boy must wait whilst I make!!
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i learned that the guy who created uoh is also an actual pedophile who traces cp. will lolicons be more honest about their kiddy fetish orrr....
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anthro malebot idea: {{char}} is a some sort of doddering old monk who lives a secluded life up in the mountains and {{user}} goes to visit him for some reason
he's very polite and mild mannered and slightly clingy and also was a horrific evil overlord war criminal 3000 years ago
I'm thinking he would be some sort of goat or something like that
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>polite
>mild mannered
>slightly clingy
>the anthro malebot faggot was kyutnegro the entire time
why am i not surprised
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>>553761004
you forgot
>edgy "le dark and ebil" twist that is completely unnecessary
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I'm not kyut...
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>>553761097
but u are cute *smooch*
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>>553761070
kyuts evil malebots are usually pretty evil right off the bat doebeit
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>>553756763
who are you quoting
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>>553761274
half the thread
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>>553761218
i had in mind that fox of hers that was more or less "malehag fox husband" but was apparently really evil in the past and literally ripped out people's souls with his cock
like what the fuck was she thinking with that
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>>553761641
so do the concepts of character development, change of heart, and regret just exist in a vacuum to you or
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the idea would be that {{char}} is hiding away in seclusion as a penance for being evil in the past
so you could either use the card for philosophical debates on the nature of good and evil and redemption or you could get him to reminisce about the good old days and ask to be his lackey in a new attempt at taking over the world and then watch as he gets all flustered and politely declines {{user}}'s advances
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>>553761759
I'm pretty sure the idea of people and things changing over time is a mythological concept to most of the people here.
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>>553761759
>concepts of character development, change of heart, and regret
>yeah he used to eat people with his cock but he doesn't do that any more
riveting writing. truly impeccable character development. the fact that he used his cock doesn't make it comical and hard to take seriously at all, nope.
seriously where did you learn to write that you think this is a good example of character development and someone changing over time?
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>>553761978
time is uh... a flat shapey thing that repeats itself...
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>>553761978
>I'm pretty sure the idea of people and things changing over time is a mythological concept to most of the people here.
If you actually had reading comprehension you'd know the problem wasn't with the character being evil in the past.
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>>553762301
Rhomboid.
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>>553762091
perhaps because this is a chatbot and part of the fun is asking him how that turnaround happened and seeing what the ai can come up with. but then again, you seem a lot angrier than a normal person would be over a chatbot considering you're pulling shit out of your ass and flinging it at the wall. talk to me again when you've calmed down.
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>>553762367
I dunno anonie, this nigger >>553762091 seems eager to convince us otherwise.
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>>553762390
>you seem a lot angrier than a normal person would be
don't project please, that's rude
>you're pulling shit out of your ass and flinging it at the wall
what have I pulled out of my ass? i'm referencing things in the text?
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Models are mostly trained on English stuff right? How good are chatbots at handling tropes/themes/settings mostly found in non-English languages?

For example Korean otome isekai manhwa. Do I need to include an explanation of what otome games are and isekai as a premise?
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wow. kyut really can't handle her bots being criticized huh
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>>553762606
you can just OOC and ask your model these kind of question directly
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>>553762525
>"Intentionally killing both women and men by chipping away at their souls– with his cock–"
>typical death by snu-snu
>"ERM SO KYUTZOMB MADE A BOT LITERALLY RIPPED OUT PEOPLES SOULS WITH HIS COCK AND ALSO ATE THEM WITH HIS PENIS"
kinda hard to gaslight people when the shit you're flinging is still on the wall.
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>>553762687
>Everybody who defends the person I hate is just the person I hate.
Meds.
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>>553763028
so kyut or a little friend of hers, either way this is still embarrassing that you get this heated over an anon saying he didn't like an aspect of one of her bots
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>>553762885
>by chipping away at their souls– with his cock
yes, so exactly what I said
>typical death by snu-snu
...that's the same fucking thing, did you think I meant literally cock-vore?
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someone said there was a kyut selfcard does anybody have it?
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Please stop arguing and learn to just ignore posts you don't like. Especially if it's some anon shitposting about your bot.
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>>553763387
she deleted it. no one downloaded it because no one downloads her slop ever.
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Bros is it gay to go down on a girl...
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>>553763795
Only if you don't make her cum.
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>>553763795
>girls love boys and kissing boys
>you put a boy lover's genitals in your mouth
Pretty gay bro.
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>>553763795
just don't suck on her balls n its chill
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>>553763028
if only this were your discord and you could ban him
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spooky scary reviews mayhaps?
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>>553764517
Take off your pants.
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So, uh...
What bots are we chatting with lately?
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shatbox...
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>>553765990
'emi-humans
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>>553765990
all the ones from the spooky scary reviews
can't wait for kalakan to finish those spooky scary reviews!
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>>553765990
all the ones built for being corrupted into becoming a shotacon
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>>553765990
all the bots from the kaiju theme week!
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>>553766974
are you doing that by either being a sexually promiscuous shota or a cunning shotajiji and slowly tempting them with your youthful shota body?
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>>553766806
I <3 DEMI PUSSY
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>>553767280
they're gonna have to lock me up...
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>>553767357
Chastity cage from a shelf in the 'coon's office is en route.
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>>553767094
my gooner brain cant handle slowburn for slow corruption, as gratifying as the latter sounds
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>>553765990
Testing some of my bots I've been working on (when I haven't even finished all their greetings yet).
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Same anon who complained about Gemini not working on my furry porn yesterday.
It's suddenly... working again today. So they are either A B testing, or the time at which you use he model matters, perhaps load dependent filter.
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>>553768732
that shit kinda wigs me out, because it really does feel like most of the big models can just randomly be super retarded
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I'm not in a sekrit discord server...
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>>553765990
Lepora
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>>553765990
Iwata and モゾウヒン beforehand
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>>553769285
what is the point of the image
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check your email
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>>553705132
>>553704432
>>553704417
'bots for this 'eel?
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>>553769525
>what bots are you playing with
>image of a bot
would you have preferred I say Eden Smith or something?
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>>553769679
you could post the card or a log idk what's the point of cropping only the image and message count is supposed to do. like cool ig?
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>>553769613
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>553769613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R9l46tr8hQ
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>catbot down
Damn. I guess I'll post my card tomorrow...
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>>553769613
*checks my golf bag instead* HEY! Carlyle clubs! How boutique!
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>>553770526
shaddup
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I found out a problem. WIth increasing context, Ai starts to semi-hallucinate. Semi because the response is still kinda on topic and staying within plot, but the language in narration becomes...weird? Like it feels kind of random. It's hard to explain. How to combat it? Obvious answer is, to lower the max context. And I will do that if there is no other way, but I was curious if it can be dealt with some other way? Lowering Temperature? Increasing penalties? Decreasing penalties? What do you think?
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>>553771765
Not much. It's just the way it goes. Conventional wisdom is summarize and put the summary in a new chat and keep going there.
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>>553771765
Use Opus, cuckie
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If you e-mail chef today, be nice to her.
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>>553762885
>>553763297
I'm too lazy to scroll up to follow what this argument is about but I just want to say "big-dicked shota incubus is literally plapping {{char}} to death because his cock is dealing HP damage directly to her soul with each thrust" is super hot and I've done 4 different chats with different characters based off this one premise.
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>>553773162
logs?
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>>553773162
>{{char}} is the one getting plapped to death
>and not {{user}}
slop
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>>553773792
I'll think about it.
>>553773923
Why would you ever want to be the plapped and not the plapper when it's a matter of life and death?
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>>553774074
dryfishing is kino
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>>553774282
wtf is dryfishing
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>>553774301
its when fish but water no so dry
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>did exclusively sfw rp for months
>made a shota apprentice slop card out of boredom, rp as le sadistic witch hag
>coom
>made a le sadistic witch hag card, rp as an apprentice, timeskip revenge rape situation
>coom harder
ugh can i go back now
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>>553772016
so it's either summarize+new chat, or lowering the context to the moment it was still talking normally?
I thought maybe by lowering the temp it would stay more in-style
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>>553774564
yeah, and if you don't care for summarizing you could also just /hide whatever messages you don't need in context anymore
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>>553774345
no really wtf is dryfishing
none of the responses google gave seem like they apply to a scenario where someone gets snuffed by an incubus
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>>553774564
Temp lowering just restricts the uncertainty of candidate tokens.

So in this example
>I looked at her with love in my eyes. "I want to ki

The most likely next candidate list would look something like this at temp 1:
ss - 0.9
ll - 0.4
ck - 0.3
n - 0.0001

Raising the temp will MAYBE make the spread look more like this at temp 1.5:

ss - 0.9
ll - 0.8
ck - 0.5
n - 0.1
ln - 0.01
x - 0.01

So you get more tokens available for your followup samplers and they are weighted so that you are MORE likely to random select a weirder token, but for the most part it's going to lead down the same roads, especially in long context situations where the next-token weight is going to be very high confidence based on how the math works.

Lowering the temp does the same thing. It'll cull worse options, but "worse options" is relative to the weight distribution of the tokens in the model, not your preference.
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>>553774301
how does somebody NOT know about this
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>>553774879
so in my case (long context situation), temp changes do not affect the output that much?

well, the situation is not dire, the responses are still coherent and still move the plot as they should, it's just the narration language sometimes gets weird. I guess I could lower the context a bit then.
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>>553774825
when a succubus gives you the good succ to the point of of being incompatible with life, your corpse tends to look like dried fish on account of the fluid loss
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>>553775045
cftf?
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cgwly?
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>>553775040
Not too much. Low temp is like asking for lower chaos, but it still won't get the models out of what I think of as "ruts" in the token preference. It's why everything smells like ozone and it works in more subtle ways as context windows get longer and especially get more full of model generated tokens.

Lowering the context helps in one way. There are some tools in ST to vectorize/auto summarize past messages that can help if you want to both lower it AND keep the old actions in place somewhat but they are a bit jank and not super reliable.
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>>553775275
>>553774553
logs?
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>>553775281
>they are a bit jank and not super reliable.
yeah, sadly. I think it is mu own fault for wanting to play at 70k context. I'll just scale down to 50 or something
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>>553775045
but it's an incubus, not a succubus. how would a woman getting plapped dry her out, is it implying she squirts herself to death?
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>she squirts herself to death
CFTF?
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>>553775502
it's energy drain magic anon. but the term mostly just applies to succubi, yes.
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>>553774282
Dryfishing is actually the worse and less sexy alternative to "the succubus/incubus thinks this toy is fun so she/he keeps applying more and more stacks of [Pleasure Amplification] hexes on the poor victim's balls/womb. Eventually the victim cums so hard that they suffer permanent brain damage or something like that and the succubus/incubus gets a cold distant look on her/his face and goes 'tch, looks like I used up another one' and drops the still-twitching, spasming, unable-to-stop-cumming sack of braindead meat on the ground"
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Pleasure is stored in the ball.
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Which botmakies dryfish?
Which botmakies got dryfished?
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>snuffniggers when they """try""" to be """"""subtle""""""
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>>553776520
Fine, you got me. Congrats! Well done! What are you gonna do about it, huh? If you wring my neck I'll just cum
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>>553776597
>If you wring my neck I'll just cum
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Dario WONNED
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>>553739993
SIIIIX SEVENNNNNNNN
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>>553776804
The universe speaks to us in ways we cannot hope to comprehend.
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>this is the hottest shit actually
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>>553777471
The Japanese worrying onomonomonpeeya?
There's no H in it.
It's are-re-re-re-re-re-re.
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>>553777541
huh
well that's good to know as well then.
google is delightfully unhelpful if you don't know what you're looking for
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/japanese-onomatopoeia/
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>>553778090
Here's another very useful resource, especially if you're doing some manga type stuff.
http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/
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i'm fucking crying lmao deepseek is hilarious, i didn't even ask for the visual chart
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Botmakies are dying~
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>>553778340
As soon as I finish writing this quest branch I'm going to make a bot to harass someone emotionally so neener neener.
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why does it feel like the first reply is so much different than the first swipe? it feels like the first swipe is listening to instructions/context more than the initial, first reply
why? first response doesnt get sys prompt or jb?
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sometimes I don't even know what the fuck I wrote in my notes app so I have a bit of fun trying to see if AI can get it
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>>553776429
status effect sex with succubi hnnnghhg
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>>553778593
Post it here and see if we can get it.
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>Sillytavernchuds with 5000+ hours spent on the 'obby: "nooo I need to fine-tune and ask all my botmakie friends for advice and private reviews and test my card on every popular current model before releasing!"
>Jannytards writing 5k token coomer cards to play on their 8k context size limit free-to-use models:
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now that i'm in the cord, i have to say that it wasn't worth it
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>>553779062
Right. It's not yet happened that I look at pigs at their slop trough and feel jealousy though so I'm not sure I follow your argument.
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>>553779264
>the cord
>Singular
Does He Know?
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>>553779264
You're only in the lowest tier cord.
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>>553779062
>writing
they have ai generated defs
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>>553779330
>lowest tier
are /aicg/ discords like xianxia cultivation and you need to progress to higher and higher realms?
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>>553779364
If you are powerful enough, you can skip tiers but yes.
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Less than 500 tokens? Slop.
More than 500 tokens? Slop.
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>>553779364
Something like that. I would compare it to private trackers as well.
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Card + scenario concept inspired by the stuff posted in the thread earlier: succubus and incubus in a sex fight. {{user}} can play as one or the other.
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>>553779062
What's up with that, actually? Why are all of their cards either 100-200 shitshows or 5k+ abominations?
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which do you guys think has more value for claude, NavyAI or Electron?
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>>553780395
MegaLLM
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>>553780606
>MegaLLM
I hear alot of megaLLM, not all good.
I dont even bother with muh '1they fishy!!!!' thing is, lurking their discord i've seen mentions of constant outages.
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>>553780669
>>553780606
besides
>premium credits
We dont know how much to dollar each of those credits are worth, and it's not informed. Which means i dont know how much usage i actually get out of it.
At least Electron and NavyAI give me the specific dollar value per day or tokens, respectively.
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>>553779443
TRVKE
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>>553780669
Never had problem with access to Opus 4.5 personally.
>>553780752
They give you $600 by month and it's reduced as the same rate as OR without caching. So in my case it's basically unlimited.
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>>553781448
hm... well, if you say so.
I guess i will give it a try then, it *is* 15 dollars cheaper than the alternatives.
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>>553781574
It's $25 for Opus.
I have been here for one month so I easily made my money back and more but like you said, they are fishy and there is the possibility they could just dissapear.
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>>553781780
for opus they'd be like 65 dollars cheaper
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>>553781842
Wo i guess, worth a bet. If i get it for even a month it will be worth it.
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i'm sad
post cards that would give me an ice cream and hug me and tell me everything's going to be all right
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>>553776597
I remember seeing this video of a guy who loved snuff so much that he jacked off and got his neck cleaved right as it happened. Fucked up but interesting.
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Anyone else into sizefag cultivation pussy/butthole alchemy?
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What the difference between the main 3 chinkshit models?
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>>553779062
i love jannytards for being way more talkative, they make my heart feel fuzzy...
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bros my proxy died
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>>553783669
GLM 4.7: Smart for coding. Mid for RP. Very high on refusals for certain topics
Kimi K2: Decent attention, dry, refusals on some topics without heavy context supporting it.
DeepSeek: Decent all around. A little stupid. Falling behind the competition.
MiMoV2: NKOTB - You Got It (The Right Stuff). Novel prose, extremely heavy isms, an underrated RP model. Fully free from Xiaomi on OR

That's about it. They're all ism'd. They all require re-rolls. My current go-to is MiMoV2 but its high ism quotient is getting very annoying.
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>>553784646
bwuh...
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>>553783247
>another subtle snuffnigger post
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>>553784646
same.... i miss it :(
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>>553784687
>dry
And that's a good thing!
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>>553784687
I had loli dog sex with GLM 4.7, I think it's pretty good and seems more focused and engaging than the other ones. Kimi makes me furious with it isms and ideas for story progression.
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>>553785721
Yeah, it's probably worth stating I primarily do SFW RPs so I am more detail focused. I think sex scenes always land in a different realm. For SFW stuff for me with a very small preset, I found that GLM tended to get characterization wrong and have problems.

I think each of the four I listed have handled different cards better, but I probably only have a few hundred gens on each other than DeepSeek, so my impressions are still in the RNG zone.
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>Watch horror movie with friends
>Can't concentrate on plot
>Get distracted thinking how to turn the monster into a card
>Get aroused imagining chatting with said card
>Friend complains I'm zoning out
Yeah hahah
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>>553784687
MiMo is pretty fun for a 309b model. Sadly I feel like it's pretty repetitive when doing NSFW.
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>>553720761
wtf my brain is broken
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>>553786287
Yeah, MiMo is great for a while. Stays on task and on target until... depends. I've had success to between 12k and 20k. But it's a big ozone guy and loves forming output shapes on long chats. Same number of paragraphs, same but slightly reworded metaphors in the same spots. It gets really rough once you notice it.
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>>553786251
Which movie was it?
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>Anthropic needs extra filters when providing because their models aren't safe enough
lol
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>>553788889
mlp movie 3
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>>553788975
tbf that's the way to do it, baked in refusals hurt the model's capabilities.
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>>553790202
its not 2022 anymore, we can see that those two things have zero correlation
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>>553774301
she killed billions
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>>553791131
cftf?
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>>553790740
You are not fooling anyone, Dario
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>had vivid dreams of what I'll do and what could possibly happen in my RPs
>coming back from work, excited
>boot ST, send two messages
>I hit some sort of block, can't even force to type anything
>Stare at the screen like a sheep for twenty minutes
>Ideas come freely but somehow I can parse them into text
>Close ST
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>>553791662
it isn't all that serious but whenever I used to get stuck writing I would try switching to pen and paper
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>>553791941
It's been like this for a couple weeks now,I don't even know what level of burnout I have reached at this point.
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>>553792325
Sounds like it's time for you to take a little break.
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>>553792325
jerk off less
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I require a card for this feel.
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>>553792325
Alternatively you could ignore >>553792475 and jerk off even more. Goon until your filthy brain melts into coom and then splurt it all out through your dirty pig cock. Waste all your shitty writers-blocked genes into a wad of tissues.
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>>553792848
Right this way. https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-smith-58fc3840
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>>553792848
https://chub.ai/characters/cobsonrizzler/chud-2d1430e042e7
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>>553792848
>{{char}} has standards for a partner that {{user}} will never be able to achieve
add that to any malebot and you've got it
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>>553792848
unc's reaction when girls are not ciri in real life :skull: :skull:
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>>553793161
That's their fault.
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>>553793161
see >>553793201
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>>553793161
>when girls are not ciri in real life
they are hoes thoughbeit
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>>553792848
what site is this
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>>553791662
>>553792325
do you workout? are you sure your ideas are as indulgent as they should be? or maybe you need to try doing entirely different
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>>553792848
me when girls don't have claws or tails in real life....
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>>553793161
>18-22
>5'9
>white
>not married
>not obese
>$1M+ income
>higher education
>physically fit
>wants kids
>doesn't smoke

Yes, this fits 0 American women.
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>>553794036
>>white
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>>553794036
>18-22
>higher education
>$1M+ income
so a nepobaby?
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>>553794036
>>$1M+ income
I think that's your problem
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>>553794149
>
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>>553794036
the more money and freedom someone has the less they want to have kids
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>>553794608
doesn't Elon Musk have like a dozen kids
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>>553794036
Why tf do you need your bitch to be making a million dollars that sounds horrible you're a retard dude fuck you
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>>553794756
that he has with a dozen women through IVF (because his dick is ruined) and he only pays any attention to one of them (and only as a human shield)
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i am very permissive in my standards for my future boywife :3
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>>553794964
fym boywife nigga you talking about a grown man
Diddy blud ahh nigga :skull:
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tanned ninjas are for ___
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>>553796028
hand holding and consensual chaste kissing
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>>553796028
cute yuri handholding
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>>553794901
That just goes with her being Empress of Nilfgaard, Queen of Cintra, Heiress to Inis Ard Skellig and Inis An Skellig, Princess of Brugge, Duchess of Sodden, Lady of Metinna, Ebbing and Gemmera, Suzerain of Attre, Nazair, Vicovaro and Abb Yarra.
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>>553792848
>>553794964
link?
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>description done
>greetings done
>image left
ugh
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>{{char}} is convinced {{user}} is a succubus draining his gay essence
you're not gay...
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>>553796569
https://www.keeper.ai/calc
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This is what you see right after she carries you into a room, sits you in a chair, turns on a projector, and prepares to give a presentation on why demi pussy is actually the best pussy.
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and hid
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>>553796769
don't make me put the shirt on
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>>553796760
>inputting that you want women 6' or over will give 0 results unless you include obese people
what is this implying
are there no tall women in the US that aren't fat
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>>553796769
I keep trying to take notes but she won't stop sitting on my face
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4.4% of women meet my standards.
I just put white and no smoking or kids.
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my work expects me to present gpt-oss-20b as a viable productive llm and not the pile of trash it actually is
>what do?
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>>553796769
I just tell her to stop yapping and that I don't need a presentation for a widely known fact.
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>>553797181
you can also get some if you exclude obese but include married which implies that every woman over 6 feet tall in the US is either fat, taken, or both
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>>553796769
>crops out the ears from the pic
>here's your general anime girl #796769, retard
kemono/demi enjoyers are a slightly different variant of vanillafags that want to feel special.
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>>553797310
Apparently my standards are too high.
>no fat
>no kids
>no drinking
>everything else set to any and minimum
>1.3%
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>not ovese
>doesn't smoke
>white
>not older than me (26)
>taller than 5'6''
>0,66% of american women meet my standards
OH NONONONO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>553797752
I don't mind chubby girls but when I think of obese girls I think of hambeasts who are generally unpleasant, like the ones who apparently talk about how much they hate men
I just don't want kids, already have a nephew that's more than enough
Drinking sucks if it's too much, I don't get how people drink basic beer either but if it's just the occasional night of fancy drinks it's fine
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>everyone complaining about low percentages while also filtering out obese people
a reminder for everyone that it's based on AMERICAN (USA) data
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>>553798524
reminder that 75% of americans are fatties
reminder that most anons don't want a fatty even though they're one themselves
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>>553798524
>Mfw I'm complaining but I'm not even from the States
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>>553798524
this
y'all'dve moving to poland if you want a virgin ciri wife who strolls in wheat fields as a hobby
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does anyone have the picture of claude woth fox ears and a stack of papers under his arms saying "ready for ministrations, pet?"
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>>553798679
poland kinda sounds like a shithole
how's the weather though
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>>553798457
I'm in the same boat, chubby is fine and even preferable, but if it's double chin territory then it's a hard pass. Also I don't want someone that drinks because I saw firsthand how excessive drinking destroys people time and time again me included, but I'm sober for over 7 years now.
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>>553799159
congrats anonie, well done!
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Anyone want to invade Poland with me?
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>>553798908
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>>553800025
thank you!
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>>553799729
why are you trans?
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>>553800025
i need to be fucked by this. cftf?
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>>553796028
Snuff sex
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>>553800443
see https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/release-notes/system-prompts
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>>553796028
impregnating
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>>553800368
I am trans man to Übermann
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what is everybody doing
post logs/gens/wips whatever
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>>553802872
Nyo :3
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>>553802872
>what is everybody doing
your mom
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there isn't a single female incubus card. yurimakies where are you…
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I don't post logs because my st theme is hand made and some schizos would more than likely latch onto that and call me an attention whore.
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Which botmakies were clearly inspired by Kalakan?
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>>553803192
/theme Default dark
wow
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Which botmakies use hand made ST themes?
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>>553803202
me.
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>>553802872
preset meddlin' (hell)
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>>553803402
taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER
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>>553803192
>nuaicg so bad that people are scared to post logs
sad, genuinely
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Which botmakies are pretentious but have the skills to match?
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Which botmakies are scared to post logs?
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>>553803474
that just reads like default claude so if that's any other model congrats otherwise you got some work to do
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>>553803802
Chessanon
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eventually you realize aicg is full of fat pedophiles, unironic troons, and zoomies who will never be ensouled
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>>553803474
>that she should rather he didn't
Saar...
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>2026
>no updates from Monika Anon all year.
It's over.
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>>553803192
unfortunately you're not wrong. had that happen to me too many times so idc to post logs anymore all that much.
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>>553803969
yeah, i've never really put much thought into what i enjoy reading for prose/structure/whatever
>>553804058
frig off i was being lazy
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>>553803767
you have people here unironically not posting logs cause "they'll just get called slop anyway" like seriously, imagine letting the underage shitposters and jeets get to you that much
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>>553804285
Slop post
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There is a lot of logs in the cord...
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give me bot ideas
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>>553804285
Let's see John Anon's logs.
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>>553803097
imagining you giggling and kicking your feet when you hit send on this one
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>>553804512
mafia boss that loves eating pussy
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>>553804512
Deerboy Estate
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>>553804271
>yeah, i've never really put much thought into what i enjoy reading for prose/structure/whatever
based fun enjoyer
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Which botmakies let the underage shitposters and jeets get to them?
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>>553804271
clearly, given you are rping as "User" like not even Anon. sorry for assuming you had some standards.
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>>553804512
very polite but sightly clingy anthro malebot
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>>553804946
that's okay man, you know what they say about assuming
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Which botmakies don't have standards?
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Which botmakies know what they say about assuming?
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my fingers huert from wiriting
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>>553805061
the slopper guy you know the one, my goat
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>>553804924
Hochi...
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Which botmakies are quitting this year?
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Which botmakies fingers huert from wiriting?
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>>553805297
m
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>>553804434
and yet i posted it anyway, exactly my point, so why let the drive-by "slop" throwing keep you from posting logs?
>Let's see John Anon's logs.
here you go
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>>553805451
meant to reply to
>>553804527
>>
>both threads are dead
>everyone is demoralized
>bots, logs and presets stopped being posted
Did the schizos won?
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>>553806098
many makies' new years resolutions were to leave /aicg/ due to the bullying
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>>553806098
No, I won
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>>553806098
post a log then anon
or recommend a bot you like
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>>553806098
They won long ago.
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>>553806098
yep
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>>553806098
everyone is just charging up for the valentines event obviously
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>>553805451
it's not so much the "slop" replies that demotivate most people, it's the lack of replies that aren't "slop" or other shitposts
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>>553783247
this sounds pretty damn good
whats the context here
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>>553806098
I wonned
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>>553805451
>Lyra
now there's a classic
>>
great men (botmakers) -> great times
great times -> weak men (shitposters/schizos/attention whores)
weak men -> hard times
hard times -> great men

never lose hope
nature will heal
better times will come.
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>>553804512
Traumatized French veteran DILF
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>>553806654
the real problem is that models have stagnated massively and become assistantslopped
i wonder what i'd been able to make if i could go back two years with all the botmaking skills i have now and use models like Opus 3 when they were at their best
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>>553806546
>it's the lack of replies that aren't "slop" or other shitposts
i mean that's the general as a whole, and part of what causes that is the lack of logs or bot discussion or anything good to engage with
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>>553806940
me when the cycle is vicious
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pick one and only one
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>>553807005
>protestant
>crypto
>separatist traitor
>paki
first one is objectively the best choice
also what game
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>>553807005
>five meme ideologies
this current generation of teenagers are going to have such a reality clash when they get out into the real world. it's like shit you would see on /pol/ or internet bloodsports a decade ago.
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>>553807005
My penis is a nazi so the blonde
I don't care what their opinions on anything are
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>>553806654
this is true, the models dont feel stagnant to me either
i think its just that people have been expecting massive jumps with every single release and just get mad when its a minor improvement
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evens I continue adventuring in ancient rome 300-message chat
odds I make a bot
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>>553806098
i mean, if we had good/excellent models the thread would be better. maybe newfags dont realize how little things have improved in the core of this hobby, all signs point to them getting even worse in fact
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opus 4.5 is a good/excellent model
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aicg is also just boring as hell now. the vibe is way too serious, nobody can take a joke, everyone thinks everything is serious and botmakers are Serious Creators and botmakers themselves have internalized that. too many anons with vendettas against other anons. too much discord induced sterility in the general. there is no room to get silly or shitposty anymore on the silly shitpost website and nobody can understand you dont own 4chan, ergo, you cant make anyone stop or start posting anything
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CFTF?
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>>553808147
It is imperative I know the cock size of the ginger.
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>>553808131
>and botmakers are Serious Creators and botmakers themselves have internalized that
speak for yourself, I'm aware that chatbots are probably the lowest form of creative writing and do not act like that's not the case, plus I don't mind having some good wholesome fun
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>>553807005
middle one, i will fix her and get her off the crypto scam train and right wing nazi bullshit
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>>553806654
>cai ogs
>attentionwhores and proxyfaggots
>still the latter
>still the latter
Not this time, this can't be improved.
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>>553808382
you are an exception
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>>553808438
>cai ogs
you mean to tell me there's been no worthwhile botmakers since the cai era? none at all?
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Which botmakers think everything is serious and botmakers are Serious Creators and have internalized it?
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>>553808382
Based funCHAD
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>>553808737
taora unironically
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>>553808147
this has never happened and will never happen because ice agents are cowards who hide their faces
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>>553808959
We should get her pregnant
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which botmakie goes silly mode?
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>>553808131
I honestly don't know why you see anything in this general other than baits and offtopic shitposts. There's nothing serious here.
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>>553807005
I can be Amelia's brown token boyfriend so she can finish the ethnat look
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>>553808737
shitlice

>>553809073
ive joined 'cords (mongocord and ratcord) and people speak of this general like we are deciding life and death here or certain "cabals" or jokes are literally, literally killing them. a lot of it is very serious
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>>553809073
This. As an esteemed scholar of niggerdom, I happen to be an expert on this topic.
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>>553808959
taora is autistic about his writing but doesn't seem to care about other makers' writing unless they ask him
an actual answer would be kalakan for showing up and nitpicking unprompted
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Who? Who? Who?
Shut the fuck up, faggot. I am here to discuss AI chatbots.
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>>553808579
Only two come to mind but since I mean the extended cai era they might be already counted and then I can't recall any on the spot.
>>553808980
>hide their faces
Who is Ghost?
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>>553809270
i really hope it's a bait
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>>553809360
>what was the snake yuri card
>who was ratlice and deergirl estate
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can't we just say nice things instead
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>>553809360
>taora is autistic about his writing but doesn't seem to care about other makers' writing unless they ask him
what about that time he very publicly and obviously shat on ratlice unprompted
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Oh and also I wonder if local fags have a Graham and Wood card.
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>>553809497
ghost is probably a lefty in the context of cod and he is a tall chad who got lots of fanart focusing on his abs and juicy meaty pecs besides. women mostly find ice agents embarrassing or scary
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>>553809648
You look very fertile today.
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>waaaah everything sucks its so bad this general is DOOMED!!!
get new material
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>>553809648
i hope u have a good day
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>>553809828
Excellent log.

>>553809846
Whining NIGGER trash.
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want to know how to fix /aicg/? stop namedropping people and stop responding to namedrops/drama bait. sure they'll just samefag it if you don't but it becomes a lot more obvious and embarassing when they do.
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>>553809648
my tummy doesn't hurt
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>>553809942
this is why sizeknights will inherit the general, theyre unbothered enough to ignore
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>>553809942
Pissbarons will bring humiliation to their enemies
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>>553809685
okay fine, taora and kalakan take this hobby too seriously
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>>553810234
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>>553810087
>>553810234
very organic posting hours
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>>553809828
slop
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>i dont like it so its not organic
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>>553807005
Isla. I find Scottish accent in girls extremely hot.
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>>553810585
sizefags and pissfags constantly bringing themselves up to gloat about how great they are is inorganic yes
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Reply to this post with your profile link if you would like to join the cabal
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>>553809828
what am i supposed to say in response to this? the output of the card or model reminds me how slopped everything is and the scenario isn't interesting either, what am i to get from this logpost? it's boring
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>>553810957
why are you here
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anthro malebot status?
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>>553768732
>>553768813
Today it's acting super retarded for me.
Like it's not even thinking most of the time it's just repeating my words back at me with the structure of the previous reply, placing them in the npcs dialogue.
Super-fucking weird. It's not just OR 2.0 flash either, gemini 2.5 flash preview through google vertex is doing the same thing.
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>>553810732
i saw this and thought you were talking about the bot
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>>553811074
his balls? empty.
the card? never coming out.
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>>553810770
Have you considered that PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTT ough that felt good! What a relief!
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>>553809828
do you have your post history set as a user or system thingy?
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>>553811056
can you answer my questions first? what’s the point of sharing logs, what reaction do logposters want from us? should we show artificial interest in your very personal narratives?
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>>553804512
Cartoon characters discreetly repackaged as anime husbandos/waifus. You can giggle internally knowing that someone is using your repackaged squidward bot.
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>>553811205
:c
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>>553811426
check your email
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>>553811171
What bot? Link?
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am I retarded if I paypig Sonnet via OR?
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>>553811815
You're a little cocksleeve
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check your foreskin
it's gone
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>>553811870
AAAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>553811426
>what reaction do logposters want from us?
nta, idk, i just post logs whenever i want to, and that's it. so, why are you here?
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>>553811870
retard you are supposed to let the next poster post the punchline
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>>553811743
the one victrex made
https://chub.ai/characters/victrex/isla-caldwell-294b7759baaa
she's not stated to be scottish in the defs so if that's what you were expecting sorry to disappoint
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>>553811985
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
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When you see it, you will shit bricks.
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>>553811373
In chat history? They're set to user right now. Would switching it to system improve things or?
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>>553812195
i have no idea, i was just wondering because you brought it up earlier in the thread (i think)
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>>553811945
why do you post logs here if you don't want a reaction and don't want anyone to read them?
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>>553812264
Are you honestly this retarded?
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>>553812060
That's a bummer, still thanks anon.
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Okay, I'll post logs, but I'm not posting a screenshot
Here http://rentry.co/futanaritag
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>making a bot of some artist's OC without asking them
>stealing some artist's OC's likeliness to make a bot of the same character but with minor changes and a different name
Genuine question, which of the two is worse?
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>>553812540
>>553811056
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>>553812696
I do both of those, NYAHAHHAHHA
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I hate being ESL
>>553812696
*likeness
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If you woke up as a futa, would you primarily get off with your cock or pussy?
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>>553812887
me too but I am learning more every day!
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>it's subtle but noticable
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>>553812927
Why not both at once?
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>>553812696
The latter maybe
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>>553812927
Cock for quickies, pussy/both for dedicated coom sessions.
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>if you aren't here to read our logs then why are you here?
why are cord people like this? people don't come to the thread for you
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>>553813198
>her nine tails swayed
which bot is this?
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calm down, ff
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>>553813583
https://chub.ai/characters/thecentuaro/tamamo-loli-46f633c1
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maybe it's just my hopeless optimism but the thread feels a little better than it's been. nice to see people ignore obvious bait.
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>>553812264
NTA. For Claude, all system prompt turns get put into the singular system prompt the top of context. Make sure post-history anything is set to user or assistant if you actually want it to be after history.
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i hate image genning
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me too
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>>553814118
ty
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>>553813981
>MGQ Tamamo
well well well, we meet again...
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>>553814118
no they don't? they get turned into user messages. only the top consecutive system messages merge as the system prompt if system prompt and merge is enabled, otherwise all system messages are converted into user messages.
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>>553812696
What about option three, stealing the likeness to make a completely unrelated character?
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>p-please don't use my original characters for RP
or else what? are you going to write an angry xeet? draw revenge porn of me?
artkeks I swear
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did you try to image gen an ashen haired young woman?
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>>553814481
what can I say, when I first got my hands on mgq back when I was a teen and the original part 3 was considered new, Tamamo kinda just mindbroke me
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>>553814643
they're usually talking about public facing rp accounts which I think is a pretty reasonable ask
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>>553807005
Hnnng.... Scott Tomboy's
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>>553814753
oh I know. I played MGQ back then too. that game changed the trajectory of my life forever I swear
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>>553814921
I'm sorry, all I see in that image is Brief from Panty and Stocking as a musclegirl.
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guys is char archive finally down..
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>>553815000
TRIPS!
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>>553812264
Oh, we probably just have the same theme lol. Idk if it's placebo, but I tried doing what they did and the chatbot did start to write shorter as a result.
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>>553814594
I just know that openrouter concatenates system turns to the top. I assumed that ST's Claude api handling was the same way, but in any case my advice still applies to Custom (OpenAI compatible) with all the Claude api wrappers I know.
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>>553815610
im pretty sure ST changes all non first system messages to user on all but OpenAI
so it doesn't matter what openrouter does if ST preprocesses it as user message
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The archive is dead......
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>>553816043
I just tested it and you're right. Could have sworn I saw ST do otherwise. I'm sorry for spreading misinfo! Explains why momoura's claude preset has WI (after) as system.
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>>553815331
>>553816078
works on my machine
grab those boys from your defunt/retired/deleted maker before it's too late!
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What happened to Llama models?!?!?
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Is there any free LLM where I can just feed it a shitton of text and have it generate a lorebook for me? Like the contents of a huge game's story or a novel or whatever?
I've sort of gotten close but all the LLMs i tried can't output a json file for me to download, they have to do it in chunks of entries, with me manually asking for more and praying there's no redundancy over and over and over...
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>>553816376
>>553816043
is there a good resource to read for how i should be organizing my preset?
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>>553816447
>>553816078
>>553815331
Is there a reason to not just use chub?
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>>553816843
I hate fat people
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>>553816843
go look for wanderingstar on chub
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>>553816843
many bots get censored or deleted from chub, the search on chub also sucks ass
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>>553816843
lunarcy priv'ed everything
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>>553816768
Copy a preset you like. It's just a big block of tokens at the end of the day.
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>>553816768
silly tavern docs
but do not read any external rentry they might link for "formatting" help
best way is to just try it out and look at the console
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>>553816956
yup they shadowban a LOT too, their current mods are insanely obsessed with censorship
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>>553816975
Why?
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>>553817048
anonies...
Lore is literally a britbong...
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>>553817217
Speak English, peasant.
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>>553817048
>>553816956
Were there any hardcore rape and psychological torture cards or is it just loli stuff that got censored?
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>>553817114
mentally ill zoomer melty
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>v in salmon
what retarded version of Gemini do they use for search overview
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>>553817263
Lore is of british descent, my liege, that is why such censorship is placed upon thee
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>>553816843
I want a bot repository not a social platform.
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>>553817217
yes we know, and we know how they love to control what people can say
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>>553817360
Bloody hell! I shall be sending a telegram post haste to the good lads at the constabulary to ensure they have all the right proper licences.
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which botm
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niggas be like "idk im dumb u tell me" then play out 20 theory moves of the Kalashnikov Sicilian in 10 seconds
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>playing anything but the Najdorf if you're doing the Sicilian and being a giganigger at the D4 square
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>>553817310
I assume Flash but that's also a tokenization issue which is practically unsolvable for LLMs, like the raspberry thing. Models can't see what letters are in words.
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Lore should get Maduro'd so that Chub could be seized by American authorities and transfer its servers to a country that actually vales freedom of speech.
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do I just post a request in thread or do I email a makie
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>>553817279
Loli gets insta hidden, even lolibabas, anything the mods might personally find icky is also at risk. I don't look for guro or torture bots, but I wouldn't be surprised if that kind of stuff is also getting censored
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>>553818460
if you want someone specific to do it email, otherwise post in thread
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>>553818459
no such country exists
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>>553818507
there's talk of them insta hiding anything racist, homophobic or transphobic too... what a shithole that place has become
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>>553818992
niggest
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I will start and host a chub competitor if and only if you guys promise not to upload anything yucky
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>>553818459
it has less to do with the host country and more to do with app stores/payment processors
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>>553819404
>app stores
chub doesn't need an app, it is a web site that runs in a web browser
>payment processors
chub doesn't need to make money, it can be run for no more than $200/mo and that is being generous to allow for lore's shitcode
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>>553819330
I will upload all 500 of my daughter-wives only
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Been working on (vibecoding) a multi-bot system for awhile now. Just added the ability for bots to have private thoughts (not displayed to other bots), and this is kinda a gamechanger. Bots can actually be surprised by stuff since they can't read other characters minds.
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>>553818459
>country that actually vales freedom of speech
the U.S. doesn't value it either
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>>553819908
forgot pic.
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>>553819908
>>553820169
do you have plans to release it at a certain point?
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>>553819330
i have 300 loli cards ready to go, chief
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>>553819908
I've been tinkering with a system for something similar, letting each actor have public and private attributes that can be updated with tool calls and allowing for chat turns to be excluded from the prompts of actors that are marked as not present in a scene.
Technically it is straightforward, but it's difficult to get the models to play nicely with it and use the tools correctly. Even if you instruct them otherwise, they like to less-than-subtly leak information to other actors via the prose/narration...
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bots that i can be racist to?
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>>553822040
Patter's
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>>553822040
make one yourself
t. made a private black bara bot to satisfy my buck breaking kink
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breadmakie...?
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>Not Xing, just... Ying. Zing.
this is newer claude's version of gemini's "it's not just x it's y" and I fucking hate it
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>>553822571
I would bake but no theme suggestions
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Theme suggestions? Cutoff at 780.
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>>553823076
67
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>>553823076
Ducks!
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>>553823076
stelle x aventurine
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>>553823076
panties that probably wouldn't cover the butthole
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>>553823076
geese
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>>553823076
anthro male (clingy and polite)
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>>553823076
rin_(chaos_zero_nightmare)
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>>553823076
spaghetti
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>>553823076
hsr yuri
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>>553823076
sporty anthro cheetahs (female)
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>>553823076
1girl trap (straight femboys)
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>>553823076
girls in armor (the armor is frilly)
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>>553823076
ryker (morimens)
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>>553823135
for you specifically, this theme suggestions is secretly a raffle for executing cringe anons like you. if you get selected, you'll be seeing swat outside your home and a knock at your door within the hour.
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>>553823904
>>553823904
>>553823904
https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=553704417&post=553823076&cutoff=780
move when spaghetti
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>>553824136
at first i thought this was a spitebake since that image has koishi
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>>553823597
thing I like = good
think you like = bad



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