Cute Valerie Edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.pngPrevious: >>553691756>Thread QuestionHow short is too short?
>>553770038Next OP should feature a dwarf.
>>553770038Anything smaller than hobbits/gnomes is to short for me
Owlcats next IP should be moorecock and your an eternal champion in a strange new universe.
More cock imagine
Im pretty much the eternal champion irl
I should have give yrilet those slaps on the back, I really should haveBut it feels half baked, wish we could do marazhais little freak out first and instead of punishing her I just give her to him to get through his warp trouble
>>553770134I was talking about hair length...
>>553770702Whipping doesn't even faze herShe's like>eh no worse than what I endured in Cumrag, let's goShe hates having to apologise though, really hates it
I you like anything but plain human, you are a disgusting furry.
>>553770867In English please
>>553770926yiff very big bad
>>553770867what if I like irregular humans?
>>553770926*If
>>553770867elves are just humans with pointy ears Dwarves are just small wide shoulders humansHobbit are just small humans with big feetGiants are just big humans Gnomes are just small humans that are inherently evil
Business idea: TES CRPG
The new underrail update just makes INT break the game. especially with polymath.
Mr. Evrart is helping me find my gun.
>>553771137Morrowind needs a multiple playable characters mod. I think top-down view mod already exists.
>>553771162>here is just 165 extra skill pointsWhat was styg thinking?
>>553771278yea its badass
The best part about overseer is when something actually manages to hit your pet and it just dies
Owlcat should make a Dominions like but it actually has a story and consequences depending what lands you conquer and how you conquer them.
If you romance Cassia, you get like ten years to enjoy her being even vaguely cute and five or four years when she's still sexable. She's already farther along the whole mutation pipeline than average navigator.I find it pretty depressing, to be honest.
Any post-apoc crpgs that realistically depict women?
>>553771642>just a russian sengoku rance
>>553772259Only a moid would type something as repulsive as "I can only get five or four good years out of my fish wife"
>>553772259She's a Navigator, the realities of the romance were always going to be depressing. It's also quite shallow to view it solely in terms of how cute she is.
>>553772259Waifufags will truly never appreciate tragic romance
>>553772543>I can get It's literally her genes doing their thing and turning her into a monster.
>>553772259Mon-keigh are always so superficial
>>553772691Then appreciate her for what she is and what she'll become instead of putting an expiration tag on her?
>>553772765>appreciate her for what she isA carp in the making?
>ywn visit cassia's fish tank and feed her eggs
>>553772983>psychic coversations with her while she frolicks in the tank
>>553772765Nah Cassfags only care about her thick assOnce that fades they'll drop her
>>553772618>It's also quite shallow to view it solely in terms of how cute she is.Not really? It's not like she just gets old so her tits get saggy and having her around becomes uncool. Her progressing mutations mean you and her will have less and less contact beyond just talking, and you will will have to watch as person you love loses her human shape piece by piece. At least her mental faculties aren't going anywhere but that is still a very sad and ultimately lonely life, which is what makes the romance so depressing and tragic.
>>553772983It's not stated anywhere that she actually becomes fully aquatic eventually. At worst she'll become some cross between Fallout ghoul/Deep One/Slenderman.
>>553773235>you will will have to watch as person you love loses her human shape piece by piece. At least her mental faculties aren't going anywhere but that is still a very sad and ultimately lonely lifeYes, obviously. That is why I said "the realities of the romance". The shallow part is boiling down what you just described as:>you get like ten years to enjoy her being even vaguely cute and five or four years when she's still sexable
>>553773386NTA but if I wanted a non-sexable purely mental gf I'd have gone for YrlietCassia knew what she was signing up for
>>553772618What else does she have going for her Certainly not her personality lol
>>553773524Stop impugning my Lady, wretch.
>>553773367It's funnier to imagine The Shape of Cassia though
>>553773562Just so long as she keeps her figure, of course
>>553773837I will defend my Lady as long as she draws breath through her gills!
Why does owlcat keep adding in negros to their games if they are not romanceable
>>553773386I simply wanted to emphasize just how fast the clock is ticking. It's one thing when>Yeah your wife will get gigacancer in like forty years But its a bit different when it's >You have a decade, give or take a few years, of relatively normal relationship, get to making those happy memories, you'll need themYou know?
>>553773614>imagine The Shape of CassiaStop imagining her FAT ass
>affect the rescuenot>effect the rescueThat's it, immersion ruined, nice going ESL bioshart
>>553774075Guy is a scumbag from the gutter, can you forgive his imperfect English?
>>553774075>>553774131But affect is the right verb here??? you dumbasses
>>553774254"affect the rescue of Imoen" affect it how? Change it in some way?No, the correct verb is "effect", to make something happen
>>553774075Bro...
I like these mosaic intertitles.
alright after fucking around a lot trying to upload the images looks like i will have to settle with mid quality images
>Chud McThug who is barely literate doesn't speak in perfect flowery English Immersion ruined
>>553773973Sure, fair enough, but when you emphasize it in that manner it doesn't signal exactly signal understanding of nuance.
>>553774468>CRPGGwhat the fuck is that>core gamesaccording to you?
>>553774392Yeah, they are quite cool. They really help to sell the feel of a classic adventure and things happening.BG1 and 2 has a lot of cool or just neat things born from engine constraints or other restrictions.
>>553774575computer role playing games general >according to you?yesI first thought about making a poll but i was too tired to do it
BG2 is certainly much more talkative than BG1. You can't go two steps without someone piping up in a conversation windowKhalid clearly failed to discipline Jaheira correctly
>>553774668you don't capitalize the general's name you doofus>yesno bg2, no pst, list discarded
>>553774671you nag more than she does
>>553774525Eh, true. My bad.
>>553774671Autism issue
*smooches leliana*
>>553774671jaheria is having a woman moment as usual
>>553775013Leliana won at life by failing to appear in Veilguard.
>>553774901most of those are ARPGS or RPGs
>>553774468Distance between rows should be larger than between games in a row. Right now structure suggests you should read it in columns.>core games>Dungeon Rats, BG3, random history games>no BG1,2, IWD or Planescape>coreAre you trolling. Also Shadowrun games can be presented as a trilogy.
>>553774857sall good
>retarded /v/ermin is simply NEEDS a chart of le recommended by le thread things, because he's deathly afraid of having wrong opinion and wants to fit in and also make it look like everyone here agrees like it's a fucking Reddit circlejerk
I was going to say these crappy charts won't replace the rec chart in the OP but then>The server at files.catbox.moe is taking too long to respond.
I wanna smooch her.
Who was in the wrong here?
>>553775334yeah i know they're not CRPGs technically but they're still pretty good>>553775397BG 2 and the rest are here >>553774784 as part of the classic listlike I said in the beginning i tried to make one big list but that was more than 10 mbI have to chop it down >>553775479wtf are you talking about retard?my list is entirely subjective i already said that see>>553774668make you own list instead of complaining like a bitch >>553775501that's why I tried to make a new one
>>553775634the playerspoe > pathfinder
>>553774742see>>553774784
>>553775703>make you own listWe don't need lists to have opinions or remember things, /v/ermin.You're pathetic. And ESL.
>>553775815you're the one who is trying to hard to fit in but you're having a literal chimpout >ESLso are yousee>>553775479you're trying to hard even this ESL gotcha moment was ruined by your own mental retardation
Deadfire suffered a lot because of the ship battles. I remember being very engaged until I was forced into that. They fixed that now tho, so people should give it a try.
>>553775815>wewe who ?it's just you crying like a bitch now
>what if we have someone that hates the IE games direct a spiritual successor to them?
>>553775634Guy making splash art for Deadfire.Bland white background with tiny pictures. Can't see the characters clearly, can't read Pillars of Eternity. No idea what the game is about.Now look at Paths and it's instantly clear what is the game about. Conveys mood and features an attractive mysterious woman. Look at the contrast between background, shape of the head, her skin, red eyes and Pathfinder logo in Wrath pic. Brilliant design..
>>553775013Leliana is like if Imoen didn't shave her pits
>>553776168Mommy is the main heroine, after all.
>>553776317Leliana shaves everything but her pits.
If idira was romanceable would finally stop being the least popular companion?
>>553772259>Only four or five years out of your fish wife.>Meanwhile, the wiki says navigators easily have lifespans up to 400 yearsWhat's with inherent pessimism? Why not imagine at least 200 years of her being passably pretty?
>>553770806>Apologizing to lowly monk'ghei for your mistakesImmeasurable psychological pain which I hope resonates in her soulstone and will last for 1000+ years
>>553776743If you're RT is a psyker they themselves will expire in like 50 years maxPretty sure all of them have their lives either cut short or psyker powers make them have shorter lifespans anyway
>>553776898I have biomancy it's fine
>>553776898The RT is built different, and some psykers still live for centuries in 40k. Astropaths get burnt out quickly, but you don't have to be a SM Librarian to live a long time as a psyker. Plenty of Inquisitor psykers that live for centuries.
>>553776743The pessimism is because she's already heavily mutated when you first meet her and she's young.Then you tack on the fact she's obscenely powerfuland warped by a xenos artefact at said age she can only get worse.
>>553776336There should have been at least - dream sequence where you can flirt with her- dream sequence where you can continue flirting and kiss - one sex scene where she sneaks into your bedroom in Drezen pre-Abyss for a quick meeting and gives you a handjob- one sex scene where you meet up in secret during your stay in Alushinyrra (makeout and blowjob- another sex scene in Nocticula's palace if you impress her enough during the meeting (titjob)- another sex scene in Drezen after you come back (blowjob into cowgirl, soft femdom)- passionate tryst in her lab (missionary, leglock)I mean, that's just good game design.
i dont know what yall talk about but you guys are chill and this might be my new home for now
>>553777214>she can only get worse.Or not. Her mutations might have been designed in at conception by Tisiphone. The alien artifact might be protecting her from decaying, or, alternatively, she got better after it's removal. At any rate, the difference between 400 years of natural lifespan and 15 years anons are willing to give her is unreasonable.
>>553777592We talk about she
>>553776743Because that's not how it works? Navigators get ugly fast and then live as cryptids.Cassia is already much more mutated than a normal navigator would be at her age, plus she's very powerful as a psyker and has other things going on for her too.
>>553777592True, we proudly maintain thread quality here.
>>553777650In the non romance ending it's made clear that she mutates very rapidly and has to have her personal guard (provided by Kibellah) put her out of her misery.
>>553777086>Plenty of Inquisitor psykers that live for centuries.Good to know my boyfriend won't be expiring any time soon.
I'm at work thinking about Cassia's FAT ASS. Lord have mercy.
does this seem about right i never have played qud before
>>553777947Post proof
>>553778362What's the lore reason for giving her a big, shapely butt? Counterweight?
>>553775572
>>553776127would've made the perfect modern IE game if he had free rein
>>553777947I'm not arguing that she won't get mutated at all, all I'm arguing is possible timeline.
>>553779113I'm willing to believe a smurfs ego is 20 but there is no way their strength is toughness is a 10
>>553777490You forgot her transforming you into a shota post-game
Uninstalled WotR after about an hour of playing the game. Didnt even get out of the crevice you fall into immediately before recruiting the paladin with the annoying voice and woman that very obviously stabbed a guy to death.Constantly stumbling into combat encounters with single enemies just gave me Kingmaker flashbacks where the dungeons forced you into combat every room with 3 shmucks that wastes your time and is designed to be steamrolled through via rtwp combat (I always play turn based because rtwp is cock and ball troture and anyone who likes it is wrong) but just constantly interrupts your exploration flow. Owlcat games are competently written but I really wish their gameplay werent so ass.
>>553779979another turd-based defeat
>>553779259Tisiphone's whim.
As someone who first played RT on launch and had mixed feelings on it, should I play it again after years of patching and two DLCs?
>>553775703Old chart had a reasoning behind the ranking. Yours is just random, not to mention split into 4 pictures.
>>553780832those old charts were a meme desu. I remember that Icewind Dale 1 was given something insane like 10/10 combat (every encounter is massive trash mobs) and 9/10 story (it has less of one than BG1)
Bolverk x Linsi
>>553781037Meme is a buzzword used by redditors
>>553781185"redditor" itself has been a buzzword for almost half a decade now
>>553781037But at least it had some reasoning even if flawed. Say I'm a new player who's interested in crpgs, I'm getting almost no useful information from >>553774468 or >>553774587. Solasta is a "core" /crpgg/ game?
>time to get wood elves to join the alliance against demons>pretends they can't speak Common during greeting, address us in elvish only pls>we know better because we've lived for 1000 years, gtfo our forest>we hate dragons btw>yet can't defeat 2 dragons in a nearby cave, pls help us dragonborn heroes >also my son is too racist even for me, so go kill him>raid the tomb of my grandma for her cool ring while you are at itThanks for making elves proper arrogant assholes, Solasta, respect.
>>553779126I mis-remembered: it was "many years" later.
>yeah here's the wife>>553771137Didn't Chris Avellone say Obsidian pitched this to Bethesda after Fallout NV and Todd turned them down?
>>553779979Idk I too played 100% turn based and I enjoyed all of it except maybe the enigma
>>553772736I put a bullet in this fucking bitch’s head. Monkey back on top.
>>553783316I'm sure WotR is better than Kingmaker, but the flashback to those dungeons caused such an extreme reaction in my mind that I didnt want to play any further
>>553781669Based suicidal CassiaAlthough it kinda weird>could not resist the strain of mutationDoes this mean she got so warped it was painful, or that her mutations finally started getting bad instead of slightly cosmetic?
>>553781617>thx for the ring, I will now sing a gay song about my dead wife to the racist elves, hopefully this will convince them to stop being racistbruh
>>553783845That's pretty funny.
>>553782247Wouldn't be surprised.Todd didn't even want NV to be a thing either but his boss forced his hand.
>>553781037like most charts it was made by some retard who didn't play all the games on it and was just following what some other retard on 4chan told himanyway the point of all this is don't use 4chan for recommendations on anything except maybe porn, anons here aren't trustworthy or reliable people
>>553783845Push through it to your first myth power. It's like installing 10 slightly cheaty QOL mods.Story is also cool, don't rob yourself.
>>553784105>ended up becoming TyrannyMaybe we dodged a bullet.
>>553784395Tyranny was great. Just obviously half done. With a bigger budget and brand name it would've been a hit.
Why is minsc the only person in my party who can equip majority of weapons i get bruh
>>553784176Unless myth powers drastically reduce the amount of combat encounters I dont see myself coming back. Like I said, I'm sure there's plenty of good stuff hidden beneath the slog, but I dont have the time or energy to dig through it
>>553784530Because he’s awesome
>>553784530Minsc is always my designated spare weapon guy. Until BG2 and he gets axes and the one throwing axe that can delete a lich anyway.
>>553784928Azure edge?
>>553784647>drastically reduce the amount of combat encountersThey give you the tools to trivialize simple encounters. Only the strong one will be longer then 1-2 turns.Earlygame = You see 5 bugs - 10 turns of slapping each other with "miss!"Late game = You see 15 daemons. Half of them commit suicide when they see you. You hurl 5 chain lightnings in one turn and kill all of them instantly.
>>553784471tyranny was only made to generate money for poe2
>>553785376sounds cool but the first few encounters with singular bugs that also only last 1-2 turns were reason enough for me to uninstall
buttkicking for goodness
>>553785534Play on real time mode you sissy.Turn based for actual fights, real time for smashing flavor fodder.
>>553785534Eh maybe try It later when the scars from the house of time are healed.
>>553785662real time for everything because turn based is gayreal people don't sit around and wait for 1 person to sprint all over the battlefield stabbing things and chanting spellsthey also aren't forced to stand still as you perfectly position your fireball to hit all of themeveryone acts simultaneously and react dynamically to what others are doing
>>553785270That's the one. I've skipped some scs liches way too early with that thing.
>>553785879While I'm with you on that turn based is easier for people who haven't fought through the gauntlet of 90's and 2000's CRPG's.
>>553785879Calm down, sperg
very smoochable cast
>>553785879You tell them, chad.
>>553785879But everyone does frequently pause to wait for you to decide what to do in real life?
>>553786402God pauses frequently
Minsc and Boo stand ready*squeak*
>>553786402Go ahead and say something racist in public and watch as people pause to comprehend it.
Why is mass effect and dragon age beyond origins counted as crpgs?
>>553787549They're classic rpgs (CRPGs)
>>553787549They're rpgs and I play them on my computer
>>553779979>Owlcat games are competently writtenlol
>>553788520Thats like their biggest weakness..
What if someone made a CRPG about playing as a bigshot wizard
Someone should make a CRPG about playing as a bigshot lizard
>>553789121Already done wiz4
>>553789195You already did that, swen.
>>553787735why didn't they give the alien babes hair?
>>553789195ahem
cRPG idea: You play as a male drow wizard chud and have to overthrow the matriarchy and rape drow women.Thoughts?
>>553789267no one here can handle wiz4 without crying, it's too hard (except me)
Someone should make a CRPG about playing as a lounge lizard
>>553789387only if it has a secret path where you end up getting raped (and killed) by drow women
>>553789121>>553789195Combine these two ideas and make a Lizard Wizard CRPG where you fight ageist King Gizzard.
I've only played BG2, NWN, and BG3 but regularly participate in Owlcat discussions
It is funny to think about the people who post on /crpg/, who act like beating Rogue Trader on Unfair is an impressive feat, attempting to complete Wizardry IV.
Dude trust me bro that game from 1977 was impossible to beat bro you had to be there dude
>>553789813Yeah only the hardest game ever made where you need clues from 1, 2 and 3
Someone should make a CRPG where you play as a human warrior who has to save the world from evil and has cute girls as companions that you can romance
>>553789813Everyone complains about RT being too easy. If you talk about RT being hard here you're just going to get made fun of.
Idk why people say Wizardry 4 is hard it's pretty easy if you just follow a guide
>>553789969I don't really care about them I just adopt the contrarian position and see how many people I can get riled up
>>553790112Thats pussy shit though
>>553790159If you can make a game easy by following a guide it's not actually hard.
Wotr is actually the most mechanically complex and difficult crpg ever created because of how obnoxious the puzzles are
mage/thief or fighter/thief?
>>553791673fighter/thief
>>553791673Assuming bg2 thief isn't actually adding anything to either of them so mage I guess
>>553791673fighter/mage/thief solo
>>553779979The answer is you face roll with rtwp and turn on turn based for the bosses.
Why won't beamdoggo make IWD2 EE?
>9 Int>19 Con
>>553792479eat ur NWN1 dlc pls
>>553789990go back to jarpig land
>>553792529the perfect woman...
>>553792479Beamdog is deadYou're stuck with aspyr now
fully voiced 3d torment remake with turn based combat and purposeful encounter design...
>>553792065Use any item is pretty useful.
>>553792479Because the fans already did, silly.But more importantly they had layoffs a few years ago which is why they didn't release that final patch for the BGEE's.
Why is she like this
>>553792479Making big huge $$$ with super hero fantasy cartoon sloppa, please understand.
>>553793202Owlcat has an agenda of humiliating lesbians
Just finished Rogue Trader, so I figured I'd update my chart. Had to fudge the odds a bit to make it work. Everyone should have a 2% change to be rolled and 10 personal picks have a 3% change. (not Camellia, because fuck smooch-anon)
>>553792972I don't think a remake of PST would really need to focus on the combat, it's never been what the game's known forEasy money would be to just make it fully voiced (since having to read most dialogue is a big hurdle for many these days) and making it look more modern in terms of graphics. They wouldn't have to do anything else
>>553793202To be fair her aversion towards them does make sense given how many women blatantly lust after her despite her only liking cock. Hell even the red Tiefling twin wants a piece of that fat 19 CON ass.
>>553793674rolling
I hate so badly the idea that crpgs should be fully voiced.
>>553793674nenio, the twins and pure/corrupt arue could've been gotten 1% each so the character overall is still 2%
>>553792972Arcanum is the game that needs a remake that unfucks the combat.
>>553793674now that's a good ass chart I can get behind (and plap)
Camellia going "lmao no way dyke" to a female KC was funnier.
>>553793868you can just turn the voices off if you prefer it that way>>553793678>I don't think a remake of PST would really need to focus on the combatBecause the combat is an afterthough, but it doesn't have to be. There's still a decent amount of it and just because it's not the main attraction doesn't mean it should be bad. Players have rightfully rejected RTWP anyway so might as well go all the way. >>553793886Arcanum needs to be rebuilt from the ground up keeping only the writing.
>>553793674please don't be black
>>553793674>4% chance to get n*n*ofuck off
>>553793880I get what you're saying, but I just added the RT characters and sorta stumbled in a nice round 40 portraits, so didn't want to mess with it too much.
>>553793868I gave up my anger after ME got big. It seems to be the inescapable evolution for games that have any story and character focus.
>>553794001>you can just turn the voices off if you prefer it that wayIt does serious damage to games in the development stage.
>>553794276not when we're discussing a remake
>>553793674I like 2 Nenios, since it makes anon upset and fits her character, very funny.
>>553794276BG3 has near-infinite blabbing including at least two unique voice lines for every single NPC in the game
What about a party member who wants to be your xenos pet?
>>553794001>Players have rightfully rejected RTWPThis isn't true.
>>553794643The RTchuddie quakes in fear, knowing his time is over.
>>553793674I think it could be even more equalized if you added Kroot and Dr Spess from Dark Heresy
>>553794757After I finished Dark Heresy I'll undoubtedly update it again.>>553794130Just noticed there's a DLC character called Penta, maybe if I feel like it I'll swap her for furry Nenio
>>553793674>(not Camellia, because fuck smooch-anon)Dangerously based
>open WOTR>see 100 hundreds classes to choose from>close WOTRain't nobody got time for that
i only respect RTchadsRTWPcucks preaching about muh difficulty and skill are so cringe it's unrealgo play an rts if you want a real challenge, pussies
>>553793674Every time I see Linzi I get mad that she wasn't a romance optionrolling
How did Owlcat mess up Nenio so bad. Nok-Nok was also a comedic relief character and Marz was to a degree too, how is she executed so bad compared to them?
>>553795515you got filtered bro
>>553793674FUCK! Just noticed that the Pathfinder portraits are all waist-high, but some RT portraits are full body. Guess I'll have to fix that to satisfy my autism.
>>553795443yes I love my slut wife Wenduag
Any reason to make an agility warrior rather than just going bladedancer?
>>553795515She is an excellent character actually.
>>553795751Imagine what she can do with all those extra limbs
>>553793674>Everyone should have a 2% change to be rolledThat's not how it works dumbass you don't randomly roll your last 2 digits
>>553795921There's enough traffic on /vg/ that it's random enough
>>553795997wrongwatch this post end in the 60-80 range
>>553794447Yes but it's a developmental issue.Look at fallout 4, they admitted the reason NPC's have almost nothing to say is because for every 1 line of dialogue they did they also had to create 4 responses for the protagonist.For bigger studios it's not a huge hurdle, for smaller it's the difference between your character being a Pasqal or an Argenta.
>>553795921>bitches about the odds>rolls the trannyPEAK
>>553793674Not 35-38
These ambushes are getting a bit out of hand
>>553795810Bladedancer animations look gay as fuck on a dude.
>>553796150what? the pc doesn't have to react to every random npc
>>553793674Elf please
>>553796146well done anon
>>553796229Abloobloo claimed
>>553796307Filtered.
>>553796375there was a post ending in 60 10 seconds later but yeah it's totally random
>>553793674rolling for an evil woman that I cant fix (and thats ok)
>L-lord captain help me!
>>553796150Two big issues with that. There's a significant difference between an open world game being fully voiced and a more curated crpg being fully voiced, and none of the games we're talking about even have voiced protagonists.Bethesda is also just fucking lazy and that's a poor excuse.
>>553796307>implying spin-to-win isn't peak masculinity
>>553796552>Bethesda>LazyStarfield had more work put into it than any other game from this decade.
>>553793674I will doodle what I roll
>>553796313>what? the pc doesn't have to react to every random npcVoicework takes money from the budget.More voice work = need more budget.Less dialogue = less budget used.Games writing is affected in some form regardless.>but baldur's gateYes, it managed to have lots of dialogue thanks to having a very large budget.>>553796552Not the point.>>553796680Outsourcing 80% of it to India where it takes 1100 people to do the job of 30 doesn't count.
>>553796680Slop the lighting is all over the place
>>553796680
>>553796680>Starfield had more work put into it than any other game from this decade.and it was still shit
>>553796716That's absolutely the point. You're talking about a completely different scenario. This genre has managed being fully voiced plenty of times in less insane scenarios.
>>553796552I dont think Bethesda are lazy, I think they're just straight up incompetent. There's something going horribly wrong within that studio given that it takes them 8 years to produce mediocre games.
>>553796845They're lazy and incompetent.
>>553796716>More voice work = need more budget.yeah but... giving 2 voice lines to random npcs isn't as costly as you thinkI don't think that's where bg3's budget went
>>553796845They haven't shown to be able to improve over time and people are getting sick of their shit
>>553796845Not wrong, they just released an update to Fallout 4 that intentionally killed all mods and introduced bugs that will kill your save on an unmodded fresh install only a few hours in
What’s the last Bethesda game that was actually a role playing game?
>b*th*sd*Keep that shit studio name out of my crpg general
Is there no way to turn off the cape that comes with some of the origins in rogue trader?Really not a fan of how the imperial guard commander outfit looks
>>553796824The point I failed to convey is that because they had to voice the shitty protagonist is that every NPC had almost 0 dialogue with all of the money having to be split between the voiced protagonist and everyone else, even if you cut the protag out you'd get maybe two or three more sentences from NPC's to make up for it.Modern CRPGs are far more dialogue heavy and the amount of things someone gets to say is constrained largely by where the writer wants to take them. That changes when you suddenly need to contract someone to speak it all. Not every single game gets to be in a crowd funded early access for 4 years which is why BG3 generated so much seethe from developers and even owlcat was lamenting about how much they hate that they have to voice all of Dark Heresy because of it.And while games in this genre have been fully voiced in the past, they also had significantly less dialogue. I'd rather a game have more to read than less for some ADHD tard scrolling tiktok during a loredump.>>553796909Yeah haha it's giving 2 voice lines only lol
>>553797413You can toggle capes, helmet and backpack in the character screen
>>553797324They all are to a varying degree, but you need to restrict yourself and actively go against the mechanics, quest and world design to pull of a desired role. I would say oblivion is the least RP friendly.
>>553797694>I'd rather a game have more to readbelieve it or not that's actually a BAD THING when it comes to owlcat and obsidian games, TOO MUCH SHIT TO READ which makes the character feel unnatural and like robots
Is that bonus dogmatic ability from the first void shadows quest actually worth getting
>>553797324Morrowind
>>553793202had to do this to eventually rugpull dudes with argenta
>>553797778The base outfit cape seems unaffected by that option
>>553793674Rolling for space Valerie
>>553797778I don’t think you can toggle capes that are part of your base outfit. I couldn’t with my Navy Officer.>>553797867Not really.
>>553797413Nope.You need to install the redress mod and exclude it because there's no cape toggle in game. The last update brought a bunch of little hide gear features but they still didn't care enough to include that one.>>553797808>oblivion the least RP friendlySkyrim is just as bad, if not worse.>>553797847It's not a problem if what's being said is interesting.I've not had any issues with owlcat because they adopt settings that don't suck instead of trying to convince you their unique one (pillars) is interesting.
>>553793171>Because the fans already did, silly.Link? Name?
>>553797694Who's making voiced protagonist games though? That's never a requirement when people talk about full VA
>>553793674Let's goooooooo IDIRA!
>>553798123>got an orcclose enough
>>553793776kek, who's notes are those?
>>553793674Rolling for Vyatt
>>553798049https://github.com/RedChimera/IWD2EE>>553798103That's not the point.God damn anon.The voiced protagonist took up a huge swath of the games voiced dialogue budget which adversely affected what people had to say, even if you removed him you'd still have far less for NPC's to say than a mix of dialogue and text based conversations.Videogame development isn't free, they're going to tell you to cut lines once you go past a certain word count.
i've been playing pathfinder wotr and it's a bit... shit? the dialogue is bland, the companions are all very one dimensional, the story is not very compelling and it's filled with dogshit i had to install mods to get rid of which i never do in a first playthrough, like the random combat encounters and the crusade management. the combat is whatever i don't hate it but there's too much of it for what it is. why are so many people shilling this over other great games in the genre?
>>553798410Because the encounters are fun on hard+
>>553798410The mythic powers later on make for a good power fantasy anddddd romance duh. This general is obsessed with them
>>553798123>Get the gay orc that folds at first setback in war against chaosFuck this SHIT!!!!
>>553798410It's a game for people who enjoy RPGs.
>>553798410I like being able to lose or being pushed near to be ing able to
>>553798123The world needs a Jack CRPG.
>>553798410All owlcat games are bad but they have some qualities that appeal to autists with low standards.
>>553798384>https://github.com/RedChimera/IWD2EENice, looks really promisingTime to reinstall IWD2
Low standards are a necessity to enjoy CRPGs.
>>553798915This, but unironically.
CRPGs peaked with BG3
>>553797694>Not every single game gets to be in a crowd funded early access for 4 yearsYeah, funny how this part always gets omitted when people try to shill BG3 and seethe about other crpgs not being the same.
>>553798410Owlcat games have a word vomit problem, them being mindbroken into voicing everything will teach them some brevity
Uuuuh Owlcat bad!
Voice acting is pricey. Owlcat said it themselves and Sawyer mentions it in a video about why Pillars 2 failed
>>553793674Argenta owes me sex.
>>553799306>Sawyer
>>553799339That's pretty much fantasy Argenta
AI voice acting is cheap.
>>553799306Mocap and voice acting on everything didnt seem to affect larian negatively despite the insane cost
>>553799537Owlcat said no to AI saar
>>553799537AI bad
>>553798242Kanerah’s, it’s in a chest in her room. Had to respec my character into a rogue to get it.
Apart from a few battle cries or establishing dialogue voice acting is a massive waste of money. Most people read much faster than the spoken lines and just skip halfway through the sentence.
>>553799560they had wotc backing and since bg3 sold a shit ton they'll probably be able to pour a similar budget into the next Divinity
Whenever people argue about full voice acting here everyone's talking about a completely different interpretation of what full voice acting even means
>>55379972173% of the sales of BG3, the most successful CRPG ever (by a lot), happened because of its rich and immersive voice acting.
Noooo! We can't use wheels!Noooo! We can't use muskets!Noooo! We can't use industrial factories!Noooo! We can't use vaccines!Noooo! We can't use cars!Noooo! We can't use calculators!Noooo! We can't use computers!Noooo! We can't use Artificial Intelligence!Get with the times.
>>553799721The voiced bit allows you to whip out your phone like you're watching a movie.
>>553799721The biggest problem with crpgs is that, contrary to all logic, it was established that reading is good when in fact in a good crpg you should not read a single line of text outside of strictly gameplay stuff.
>>553799515It’s in this video https://youtu.be/xChOXFJ83-g>>553799560Do you see how high budget bg3 was vs whatever Owlcat has made. Somebody find the bg3 schizo who talks about Tencent.
Bro stop, this is like 15th dragon I'm fighting on a 5 day journey. How do people live in this country
>>553799560>4 years of milking the paypigs in early access and full financial backing of WOTCThey've had money to spare.
>>553793674Give me someone cute who would love me
>>553799849ThisWhen the steam engines came every said it was taking away jobs from, yet everyone who didn't adopt the new technology got outcompeted by those who did/
The future is live service CRPGs with most assets and code being AI generated.
>>553799861Low budget is not an excuse.If you can't afford to mocap and voice every bit of dialogue, don't bother making crpgs, just stick with mobile games or strategy dogshit
>>553799721>skip halfway through a sentenceLiterally what my friend did when we did played bg3 multiplayer.
>>553799985RIP anon
>>553800087Absolutely, but since it's rather depressing let's not talk about it.
>>553800087Owlcat could certainly benefit from AI coding to speed up bug fixes. Also, AI art on hands of an artist can speed up the workflow immensely.AI is not the problem, is how you use it.
Saar……
>>553800281>on handsSaar...
>>553800087CRPGs are still too much work for the slop studios to bother with. They'd rather just pump out Ubisoft clones or gacha games.
>>553799985>tfw getting murdered is actually the best ending slide
Just because I admit thst ai is the fjture doesnt mesn I'm an indian stop coping you luddites
Is RT or BG3 easier?
>>553800338>AI is bad, hear me out
>>553799985Congratulations!
Can you fucking imagine how much work it would be to comb through all the AI slop code on top of how many bugs there usually are in these games
>>553800818>"I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter." - Abraham Lincoln
>>553800818???
>>553800862The jeets think that’s a good thing because it’s fast
>>553798123Quick, gimme your best Rogue Trader Jack build.
Who will write better code in 5 years:An Indian studio that received an outsourcing contractAI
>>553800789Rogue Trader
>>553793674>no cute commissar mommy option
>>553800862Unless the coder is lazy that is letting AI do all the job. If used as assistance can speed up fixes instead of introducing more bugs.Remember how every time Owlcat dropped a patch, something else broke in the process? no AI involved.
>>553800818Worked with a girl like her at my old job. She constantly had to point out the irony in everything and just regurgitated memes all day. Fucking insufferable.
>>553770867Then I'm a disgusting furry, because Human and elf bitches are boring and always suck and don't fucking belong as companions in FANTASY or SCI-FI. Give me Kitsune, Driders, Centaurs, Goblins, Cat-Folk, aliens, snake women, lizard ladies, fucking anything besides Human cunts or Elven sluts. I'm fucking sick of seeing them, what's the point of engaging in a fantastical setting if all the women are just generic dime-a-dozen conventionally attractive Human women? Are there any CRPGs with actually weird and exotic companions instead of a bunch of Humans and elves? I can't seem to find all that many.
Programming with AI is actually the most gangsta Adeptus Mechanicus shit you can do. When shit breaks down all you can do is pray to the machine spirit, because the spaghetti code is a complete mess and impossible for humans to understand.
>>553801373The Starfinder game in development Bg3 if you learned to stop complaining and get mods
>>553784107the rankings were voted on by the generalit was a whole thing
>>553801334I didn't include player portraits because clowning on the shit personality of your waifu is part of the fun
>>553801339Why can't you people just find a normal religion
The class reactivity in Icewind Dale is nice. A bard has unique dialogue options and can gain a bunch of XP for the party due to song knowledge and also tell a bardic tale to a random townsperson for a reward.The mod companions also have nice interjections in places and can be talked and to each other if supported by Crossmod Banter to so they make the game feel alive.
Why are the dumb antiAI luddites so vehemently racist towards indians?
CRPGs exclusively means isometric and trimetric design to me. Fight me.
>Then I'm a disgusting furryWe used to ban folks like you on sight
Reminder that the luddites are misunderstood because of propaganda and had legitimate grievances.
>>553801874Is ai the only thing indians get to learn
>>553801874Sanjay…
Reminder that the luddites were a bunch of bitches that needed to get with the times.
>>553801373HOLY BASED
>>553801874Maybe because Slopfield was sloppy as fuck and credits list hundreds of outsourced indians
Are there really no xenos weapons that count as las weaponsAre humans the only ones smart enough to make them or something
No rasism outside b, sirs!
>>553801874Everyone hates jeets and uses them as an insult here. >make spelling mistake = jeet>goon to waifus = jeet>say something good about a dev = paid jeet shilletc.Jeets are the new Jews
You must gather your party before updating your journal
>>553802372>Are humans the only ones smart enough to make them or somethingThe opposite
>>553802372The rifles that Yrliet used had the las tag.
>>553802372Eldar weapons are just better las weapons. Tau also get plasma guns that don't blow you up.
A CRPG under the supervision of James Cameron set in the alien world of Pandora
>there are people in this thread that prefer xeno trash above hurling slugs around with your trusty bolter.
>>553787549DA2 is marginal, but Mass Effect and DAI/DAV aren’t.
Yes, we DO want to have sex with Nenio.
>criminal for major damage boost to any attack but limited charges>commissar for buffing all pistols>priest because zeal >astra militarum for the once per combat boost for any ranged weaponWhich of those would be most interesting for an AM build aiming to actually switch a lot between weapons? Leaning towards criminal but once out of charges they basically have no ability.
>>553803462What if you knocked her up, but after a few months she forgot she was pregnant?
>>553801780Look at those two twinks...bait for horny musclemilfs vgh
>>553803138i dont care about space marines
>>553803138Bolt pistols get mogged by a fucking stub revolver in this game
>>553803965not when it has a 10x burst
>>553803462I would have sex with Nenio so hard
>>553804158Many have been saying this.
>>553803656Navy because of that one talent they get
I tried making the scarlet chorus leader obey my commands by punching him in the face 8 timesI honestly thought the athletics check was just to scare himIt didnt even work Now I just look like an asshole and Barik hates meVerse respects me though but I dont think that is a good thing
Nenio is for Froggy
>>553801780There is surprising a lot of it. Really helps get those early levels. Some of the murder hobo options are also funny.
>>553804148I don't think any of them even have enough ammo for that
>>553804432Imagine the sex with Verse though
>>553804432>Verse respects me though Verse is a loyal ride or die bitch
>>553804660The later ones have clips of 14 iirc
>>553804723you can have sex with verse though
I have been siding with the disfavored all game long because the scarlet horde are a bunch of tools who are too dumb to achieve anythingBut it has begun to dawn on me that the disfavored are not elite soldiers at all but a bunch of bums who achieve nothing while begging for horde meat fodder
>>553804867Stuck at 8 if you're not a heretic or ulfar if I'm not missing any in toybox
>>553804737Then why can’t I smooch her?
>>553804291Isn’t that only good for specifically melee plus pistol? Wanted to do more of a weapon switch thing.
>>553803656Commissar feels like it'd be a lot worse if you're not building for fellowship/resolve primarily.
>>553793674Rollin’
>>553805646you get to do a lot more than smooch
>choose which languages you character knows!>here are speak all tongues scroll, comprehend languages helmet and read any script ring in the first 10 min of the game
>>553803664bruh...
>>553805751I mean you’ll be constantly parrying and landing crits as an AM meaning you’ll literally always be switching up weapons hitting the enemy and then immediately shooting them. Gets even more ridiculous when you get those boots that let you counterattack on a parry.
>>553793674missing daeran
>>553793674>yfw evil ladies are also the hottestVistenza for life
>>553805751You could see if the gloves that let you parry with your ranged weapon work with that talent
Would a forge world have nobles? Or is that mostly a hive and imperial world thingDecided to finally stop trying to make minmax builds but now my lore autism is standing in the way of my noble bladedancer
Who's playing a role on this fine day?
>>553807274>bright and sunny>but very cold>window open, burritos and my own fermented hot sauce, cat laying by meMy role? Dovah-kiin of course.
>>553807087>Would a forge world have noblesWho do you think Gapraks are, bruh
why haven't the japense ever made a crpg?
imagine getting overpowered in battle by her 19 CON
>>553807682the japanese can only self-insert as teenage boys and they aren't pc gaymers
>>553807682They don't comprehend the concept of 'choice' and being something besides Japanese.
>>553807682Growlanser
>>553807773is Valerie exaggerating or do Shelyn Paladins actually believe that?
>>553807682Not really a big market for it there. All I know is that the Dungeon Meshi author is a big fan of the genre and of Owlcat games.
>>553807997The ones you meet in Kingmaker are so batshit insane they probably do. Even Sosiel would have killed them if he ever ran into them. How they were able to keep their powers was baffling. Only explanation I can think of is that Sheyln REALLY wanted to teach Valerie a lesson for scorning her and not being a dyke.
>>553808301>How they were able to keep their powers was baffling.I wonder if this is how they were characterized in the adventure module Owlclap rewrote Iomedae extensively in WOTR compared to the module because her characterization was similarly deranged
>>553807087>bladedancer even worse thank KibellahImpressive
>>553807682They liked dungeon crawlers more
>>553807274chill saving the world as usual
>>553807773>letting rapists live, because they might create something in the future
>>553808573They're so out of character that I thought the twist was going to be that they were all fallen paladins. It's like if wotr had a holy order of desnans who kill you if you ever own a house.
Holy hell. Has there ever in any crpg been a more cucked ending than iconoclast in RT? You just try to get along with everyone and do your best and make the sector prosper only for the emperor to go: "Nah mate, you're an upstart trying to rival me. HERESY!"
>>553809676Bro, your nomos? Your imperial navy friends?
>>553809676The fuck are you yappin bout unc?
>>553809871Pretty sure it still gets overridden with the punitive crusade shit. Nomos will have somehow protected your place and you still die
>>553809676Yeah have to make nice with the navy so they side with you otherwise your utopia gets invaded by the Imperium and shit on.
>>553809676Why did you expect the Imperium to be good
>>553808965fucked up thing is that this wasn't even rape, it was two drunk people having sex and then the woman later regretting it, claiming it was rate and the pathetic faggot going along with iti hope the money was worth ruining his reputation
>>553807773I think it's time we all apologize to Valerie.
>>553809968I didn’t die during my icono ending
>>553809871Nomos cuts the region off with a dimensional barriers, but the rogue trader dies before that can happen and the von Valancius dynasty is branded heretical.
>>553810158by running a train on her, right?right?
>>553809676Just share a drink with your inquisibro Calcazar.
>>553810158She was always based. The hate towards her stems from her badly written romance.
>>553810481if we all painted her face afterwards, would that count as a masterpieceand then she wouldn't be allowed to wash it off?
>>553810158She still sucks
Man, I would commit unspeakable crimes for a crpg with all the Pathfinder classes and build autism but that is structured more like Icewind Dale, Might and Magic, NWN2 Storm of ZehirJust custom party traveling the world, clearing dungeons and stuff
Valerie is for ANALRIGHT IN HER FAT ASS
>>553793674Minagho owes me cuddles
>>553810527>The hate towards her stems from her badly written romanceGive me a rundown
>>553810790Only if she hasn’t shit in a couple of days
>>553810651Pathfinder is not a good system. People talk about “build autism” but honestly it’s very shallow.
>>553811159so close and yet so far
>>553811378>he doesn't crit for 1k damage. ngmi
We need a mech pilot CRPG.
>be an order of paladins dedicated to a hippy goddess who values inner beauty and any form of artistic expression>keep a woman like a dolled up pet because she's pretty>somehow don't view simple combat as enough of an art form even though you're fucking paladinsThese people should be happy to accept a fucking goblin if he made earnest enough paintings out of his literal shit.
I've only barely started playing the game and I already have to resort to aggro range abusing to split the enemy into 3 I dont know if its my builds (probably) or if I am not supposed to be here yet but I am struggling to not have a knockout in every fightI am playing on hard but stillDo you guys have any tips for the combat in tyranny besides mages being op? Because that ship sailed in character creation
>>553811304She’s a hypocrite. She’s always crying about how everyone wants to plap her but the second she no longer gets that sort of attention she throws a fit. Her romance also only properly starts after this point meaning if she wasn’t mutilated she wouldn’t have given you the time of day.The start of the romance is her bringing up her ex and how amazing he was and how she basically jumped into bed with him. Meanwhile she gives you constant shit tests before you can even touch her. The final part of her romance is her getting mad at you because in her own words “being with a mercenary (her ex) is so much easier than being with a king (you)” And the ONLY way to calm her down is to propose to her on the spot otherwise she breaks up with you. And if she does break up with you she gets all sad and depressed because you didn’t fight hard enough for her.Basically she’s one giant woman moment.
>>553811928Combat can only destroy. Which is only acceptable if it's to protect something beautiful
>>553812018pick a talent tree and stick to it. There aren't enough level to max everything. Build Barik into the main tank and have everyone else dps.
>>553812137You forgot to mention that she’ll never have kids with (You) but will do so happily with a nameless farmer in a different ending.
>>553810651This but also keeping on wiht Solasta's work with personalizing mercs, or a JA3 style large pool of mercs to choose from mixed with Deadfire's "choose one of a few paths for your companion"
>>553808301Shelyn straight up interferes to fuck Valerie over if she wins the duel. She’s just writing as ludicrously spiteful in kingmaker.
>>553812581That is roughly what I am doing with just a little bit of tankiness on my avatar since he is also meleeI do struggle a bit with these mages and ranges though even after getting some aggro on BarikAny talents to watch out for? Dont want to just follow a build guide, but some direction would be nice I dont know how significant e.g. 10 deflection is
>>553811159Best she can do in doggy style plapping Maybe with enough sex she'll open up to kindness and romance
>>553812907I ussually spec verse in ranged so she can pick off the mages
>>553812018This is the second hardest part of the game.
Man, I wish Tyranny had lived up to its potential.
Can someone please post the based wotr angel collage?
>>553812018Glacial spikes are one of the cheapest and strongest damage options.Wear Iron if possible or anything that has as much armour as you could since most enemies use shit weapons and can't actually penetrate.Always focus on 2 handed enemies since they are very likely to just one shot people.
>>553813048>Best she can do in doggy style plappinggive or receive?
>>553812137And then people are surprised Shelyn is fucking with her.
>>553813385Your choice, she doesn't mind either way nor does she judge.
>>553812137I thought the battle scaring made her potato face look better desu
Valerie the MINDBREAKER
>>553813685With 16 inch BITCHBREAKER in her pants
>>553813048Pretty sure Staunton was getting plenty of cuddles and headpats, but no way that little dwarf dick could satisfy her.
>>553812137>>553812876This cant be real. It reads like a shitpost.
WHEN THE FUCK WILL THEY GIVE SARAH ANOTHER CRPG ROLE???
>>553813318Are iron weapons good too or is the enemy pen too low at this point?I know I can check this myself but I dont understand this games UI desu
>>553813969Well it was A) All a lieB) Literally a job assignment Here we're talking about extracurricular activities based on feelings.
>>553814243They're fine, but they will absolutely cripple your attack speed, which usually doesn't matter if enemies can't hit you anyway. They're also rare and expensive as well. Iirc, overpen is also a thing, so there's no real reason for you not to really double down on that.
>>553813123is the hardest part the end of act 1? I actually heard about that part in a non-tyranny related context as an example of a brutal bottleneck
>>553813556>imagine wanting to fuck a goat
Is my psyker rogue trader just always going to be worse than idira?There seems to be tons of good gear only for unsanctioned psykers
Slapping your waifu's ass.
>>553812018nigga how are you getting fucked this early in the game?
>>553815269nta, but early game is unironically the hardest part, because everyone has the hit points of a paper towel
>>553815126You get the advantage of not blowing up and with shimmering emulsion you cam keep up in terms of Psy Rating and there is a helmet that provides dogmatic rank to psy rating. Also, depending on your build you can more easily get heavy armor proficiency for the Psyker Breastplate.
>>553815269Running in like an honest man and getting exploded before killing anyone Feel free to share advice if you believe it's easyI do believe you but this is my first time playing the game
>>553809676>getting comfy with all kinds of xeno scum>not heresyFilth
>>553815403the siege part is kinda hard because flights in that part of game are unavoidable but in the beginning you can pretty much talk/intimidated you walk through even if all that failsyou always still have a bunch of friendly NPCs around just aggro the enemy and fall back to a space space even my weak archer build somehow made till the final assault on the spire things got nasty inside the spire as the difficulty spiked plus it's a hard only if you play as kyros loyalist if you side the with rebels the entire first act is pretty easy
Remember what "they" took from us.
>>553816008@grok put her in a bikini
>>553815269The early game is the hardest part of the majority of crpgs
>>553815836>plus it's a hard only if you play as kyros loyalistNot really, if you play your cards right the siege is easy since you can>Take out Eb very early on if you bait the rebels into thinking you are siding with them>Cow both sides of retards so they provide ample support>Intimidate the last fight which sends two enemies running
>>553815503what class are you playing as ?change the stance of all your companions first make it so that barik can engage multiple enemies at the same timeuse verse like a rogueshe is good at back stabbing try to use your special synergy ability with her barik synergy ability sucksdon't try itcraft healing spells using lantry and give it to everyone I think you need minimum lore 30 to use healing spells if your lore is too low then level it up in the campI think the disfavored camp has a soldier who can train you in lore
>>553793674Oops all Incendias
>>553816168when i mean kyros loyalist i meant kill all rebel scum typeit is pretty hard if you choose to work with only a certain faction say disfavored only or chorus only
>>553816270>barik synergy ability sucksI realised but I have his rank 1 aoe tauntHow do I craft scrolls? I have yet to rest since time is of the essence and I've only sustained one injury with the help of savescum magic
>>553816008Passionate sex with Areelu right in her lab, on the table, as she babbles about experiment being a wild success
>>553815415>Psyker Breastplate.Biggest of noob traps
>>553790112why are zoomers so allergic to the concept of learning something themselves through trial and error?
>>553816270>barik synergy ability sucksdoesn't he have a giant aeo stun or something?
>>553817720>through trial and error?aint nobody got time for that anymore
>>553817720their attention spans are completely destroyed. Also short form content has trained their brains for instant gratification.
>>553815694Everytime I see this I wonder why eldar just let their kids wander around in the wildI thought you guys were like going extinct it something?
>>553816008areelu was a criminal.
>>553816270Uhh sorry for the late reply my internet kinda died for a minute or two I dont really know my "class" desuI started this savefiles several months ago and only got back to it todayI am a one-handed spear and shield guyMy talents are heart shot (I wanted to use throwing weapons on character creations but I moved away from that)I also took shield slam, stance guard, and palm strike because I noticed verse and lantry being focused and killed so it seems pertinentNot sure if its a good build, or if I can respec, but this is what I have
>>553816834>I have yet to rest since time is of the essenceThere is plenty of time. Even a first timer can easily do everything before Kyros' Day of Swords. There is a steam achievement though for taking too long and letting the Edict kill you.
>>553818164>28 LoreOof. At least you're trying to RP properly I guess.
>>553818143Natrual selection
>>553817720Because in case of games like Lizardry 4, the stage of trial and error can last for many many hours, so you're basically paying a time tax before you are allowed to enjoy the game itself.
>>553814787Yes. I don't want to spoil it but the enemies have numerous advantaged and you and your team have not really scaled at all.Tyranny gets much easier after that. The final bosses are pushovers with cool music.
If eldar are going extinct why don't they just start breeding programs and shit?
What is it about spears and shields that makes them so cool?Does everyone have an innate desire to become a Hoplite?
>>553818336Yeah I knew lore was OP coming into the game but if I lose out on dialogue options and scrolls etc so be itThat is what my second play-through is for I dont reload decisions I go with what feels right and I dont do munchkin strats
>I dont really know my "class" desuPlease just leave this genre.
>>553818682>I dont really know my "class" desuThat's me but IRL
>>553818435>wizardry 4 >taking more than 30 minutes to hour an figure outI guess its a self fulfilling prophecy. Since zoomers just look up a build guide for anything that takes more than ten minutes to learn they never learn how to efficiently trail and error anything themselves.
Uhhh like what classes how do I attack things or restore my health lol sorry guys I'm new to rpgs I did play The Witcher 3 though
>>553818682Bro what do you mean the game seems to be a classless system I can invest in magic, agility, defence etc on level-up if I want to and my skills level based on what I useWhat "classes" are supposed to exist in the game except vague archetypes like tank, frontliner, mage, archer, rogue etc? You dont choose to play like a monk or something as far as I remember
>>553818682Tyranny doesn't have any classes so it's perfectly understandable in this case.
>>553818573Well, unlike drukhari who don't give a fuck, eldar need their spirit stonesBabies can only be made when there's enough spirit stones to go aroundBreeding is very restricted and considering their fear of slanesh they don't do much of it anyways
553819001this! anon should be discussing what dollies to smooch instead of talking about gameplay
>>553819001Paladin main.
my class?human male fighter of course
>>553816834>How do I craft scrolls?sorry i meant to say sigilsI think lantry can create basic sigils problem with sigils is that you don't make a lot of types available in the beginning so only Eb and Lantry can cast AoE type spellsbut they can craft sigils that other characters can use provided they have sufficient loreyou have enough time to complete the quest
um, we're all white here, right?
>>553819292You can buy them too and if I'm right, it's randomised in some shops meaning you can even buy the Apocalypse tier spells that you wouldn't be able to cast until midgame at the start.
The charges, officer?
>>553817723yeah but it takes some time to step up and you can easily be blocked by the enemy by the both of you try to position yourselves to activate the ability that's why verse is besther synergy works well if she is a melee/archer character plus it takes less time to setup and activate
which dollies are popular with minorities?
>>553818573Because the last time they did that they literally birthed Slaanesh into being with their debauchery
>>553819551Nenio
>>553819551do autists count as a minority
>>553819456No I am black which is why I roleplay as an elven rogue at every chance
>>553819456The fact you even need to ask, makes you suspect of being brown
Even my characters are not amused that they needed to fight nth dragon to get the quest item kek Love it when NPCs acknowledge how insanely powerful main characters get.Always wanted to meet and fight my own party from the previous game in the series.
I prefer schizo monster girls
>>553818164all good don't listen to themspear and shield is a good combination switch to medium armour if you canyour strength is kind of lowbut other than that you can still make itdon't forget to buff your lore to atleast 30
>>553819513deviating from the grand plan of the universe and also being a huge bitch.
>>553819551Gnomes
>>553819758
>>553819456I'm from Kazakhstan
>>553819895>deviating from the grand planShe's a sovereign citizen>being a huge bitchappeal to emotion
I’m white and I exclusively romance brown women in games.
>>553818664you can complete the game as a loreletthe problem is currently everyone including the companions are kind of weakso you can't make use of their high lore stats even if you wanted to
>>553819895The grand plan is whatever I want it to be though
A funny trend I've noticed in crpgg is that evil women have endless supporters and apologists but good women like Valerie have endless haters and slanderers
>>553819513Not seducing the Knight-Commander of Drezen.
>>553819456no I am darker than most africans
>>553820171>Good woman>ValerieSure.
>>553820171>valerie >goodHalf the shit she approves of is straight up Lawful Evil territory. Also her alignment isn’t the issue, it’s her personality.
>>553820171because everyone here has the I-can-fix-her mentality
>>553819551elves
>>553820354>Half the shit she approves of is straight up Lawful Evil territory.lol I suppose you understand alignment better than the devs themselves
>>553819802your lizards scare me
Why exactly can't aeldari use drukhari gear/weapons and vice versa?I thought: yeah drukhari gear probably has extra spikes and the armor might be 'uncomfortable' but there's no reason a drukhari wouldn't be able to wear drukhari armor or use their gear
>>553820171good women are expected to be good and not whores, with evil women you're going in knowing that already.
>>553820454Most normal people do actually. Owlcat had, has and will continue to have a poor understanding of alignments.
>>553820171dude she's neutral
>>553820171>valerie>good"evil" women puhhlease. they want a woman whos a little mean and easily fixable. this is why cam will never be popular
>>553820454nta, but...>implying Owlkek understands alignment
>>553820454>I suppose you understand alignment better than the devs themselvesYes
>>553820620Cam is too good for the plebs
>>553820171Everyone likes Aerie though
>>553820354she's lawful neutral
Hate Valerie all you want, that means more 9 INT PAWG Knight for me. Who are your other options? A half elf whore in an open relationship with a orc? A genocidal salad? Tiefling twins with basically no content due to being DLC?
>>553821041i.e. the most boring alignment
>>553820871i don't. waaa i don't have wings waaa killing a grey wizard is wrong bitch stfu nobody asked you
>>553821105salad calling me her hound was hot
>>553821184Aerie becomes gangster AF though. She gives birth to your child in the middle of fucking nowhere and just ties it to her back saying no big deal and continues murder hoboing with you.
I saw Regill Derenge at an alchemy shop in Kenabres yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask to sketch him or anything.He said, “Every betrayer has their own sob story to excuse their actions. And each one thinks they are different from the rest, that they alone should be understood and shown mercy. I'm sick of hearing it.”I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “The side of good isn't weak, it's you” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him grumbling as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Cure Serious Wounds potions in his hands without paying.The tiefling at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Paralictor, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be bleaching and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.When she took one of the potions and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any demonic infetterence,” and then turned around and glared at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each potion and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by smiting chaos really loudly.
>>553821383>she gives birth to your childi don't consent to that
>>553820171Is Arueshalae a good woman or an evil woman?
>>553821383Mage/cleric is an awesome class as well
I wanna suck on Camellia's titties so bad brod
>evil womenYou can just say women.
>>553821919isn't it kinda bad though? you get access to wizard and cleric spells later than if you where a pure one and you have less spellslots
>>553820354Why is it that we didn't get a Lawful evil companion in Kingmaker? Chaotic Neutral gets to triple dip, but Laeful evil gets only half of a goat (and that's only with DLC).
>>553820458Thanks! Glad they've turned out properly monstrous crocodiles. lvl 16 murderhobos, each got 100 confirmed kills in this campaign alone. Adventurers are scary people, if you think about it.
should daeran have been chaotic neutral instead of neutral evil?
>>553821446This is something Regill would unironicly do.He's far more sillier than most people give credit
>use toyboy to turn idira into a soldier>she is nor worse than beforeAm i retarded or is operative actually just good for psykersTheir usual issues like few attacks totally cease to matter when going psyker
>>553820620Eh, Shartmilla is just too dumb and inept to be likeable.
>>553822026No. It has trade offs to a regular mage early on, but is strictly better than a cleric at all points and is better than a mage later. Getting to use cleric spells with contingencies and sequencers is a big deal.
>>553822026I wouldn’t make her your only wizard, but having her be your only cleric is no problem.
>>553822293idk when you're building idira you should focus on getting as much damage as possible out of psychic scream and warp lighting. just uh, just don't stand too close when she inevitably rolls perils
>>553793674Rolling for Nurah rape correcting
>>553820171Valerie is a lawtist in every sense of the world, dumb ass. There is no "good" in her.
How fat is Camellia’s ass?
>>553822287Every time I see that music video I can't but think of Malkavians
somebody say law?
Imagine being so hardcore you descend into hell and start giving devils a hard time, because of their lack of discipline.
>>553823139probably quite meaty and large, Camellia enjoys a high protein diet
How important is high AC in Kingmaker? I want to play as a great sword wielding Slayer but they only get medium armor proficiency.
>>553823841Just let Valerie tank everything
>>553823841Its weird because of statbloat you'll never tank anything unless you are entirely dedicated to tanking, so it's very important while being not important at all
>>553823139Hopelessly, painfully average in every way.
>Froggy unironically arguing that Battlefield 6 was a flop in /twg/Kek even for him this isn't contrarianism, this is just reality denial.
Which companion likes scat the most?
>>553823841Use Jewbilost for shield or use a wand of shield. KM isn’t as unforgiving as Wrath in terms of enemy stat bloat. You can generally get away with mid AC and a lot less buffing.
>>553824608nok-nok obviously
>>553824715Makes sense
>>553824608you're waifu desu
>>553809676That's not what happened. The Emperor doesn't make decisions like that, he's detached from the details of the events of the galaxy and is too busy fighting deamons and looking at the big picture. He's also generally supportive of efforts that advance humanity as a species, and you making the Koronus expanse a profitable and efficient state would generally be what he approves of, even if you have some eldar running around.What actually happened is that the bureaucracy that the Emperor actually hates saw that you were doing fine on your own without them, so in order to keep a stranglehold on humanity and keep people thinking they need the bureaucracy, they launch a punitive campaign to wreck your dynasty, so they can say "See? Look what happens when you deviate from the creed, from us.".In other words, the Emperor actually prefers when humans don't fight humans unless those humans are outright chaotic corrupted, it was actually the High Lords/Administratum who want to attack you.I was pretty sad when I read that ending slide, since my character supported the Imperium at large at every opportunity both in story decisions and colony management decisions, upheld the faith at every opportunity both in story decisions and colony management decisions, and has strong close ties with the Arbites, the Sororitas, the Inquisition, and even respected the various administratum officials we meet throughout the game. So it really felt like a betrayal. But that's the point I suppose, gotta be grimdark.
>>553823841The higher the difficulty the more you need 1 giga buffed tank. You probably won't get hit often on normal, except specific encounters. Should be ok to run around chopping stuff. Use Enlarge Person too.
Swen will introduce impregnation mechanics in Divinity
>>553793674I will get someone based.
>>553824875People forget niggers tried to assassinate fucking GUILLIMAN
>>553823841Doesn’t Slayer get a fuckton of feats? Just bite the bullet and take heavy armor proficiency if you’re worried about that. There’s some good mithiril heavy armor in the game.
Any fun arbites reactivity? The female portrait is super hot…
>>553825108imagine how tight
you just know this bitch enjoys police brutality
women are just retarded animals you can have sex with, it's not credible to give them an above-average intelligence score
>>553825342Y'know, honestly, could be a lot worse
>>553825536I see nothing wrong with that.
>>553793674Kibbels get
theodora
Speaking of arbitrators How is warrior overseer with the dog?
>>553793674>not Camellia, because fuck smooch-anon
>>553824557>just reality denial.Reality denial was scatfrog's bread and butter for years, anon.
>>553825125Probably the single most realistic thing in the entire Gillman's return plotline.
>>553826104shit
>>553825125hey it worked on kunrad
>>553824875>the bureaucracy that the Emperor actually hatesThe bureaucracy he himself set up?
>>553826391OhWhy?
>>553826707You'll realize almost everything is tied to the church these days, a church that he was not only opposed to, but that he killed a bunch of people to make it not happen (but it did anyway)
reminder that the emperor was a giga retard and thought it was better to leave the primarchs in the dark on what chaos is and how evil and corruptive it is and instead let them discover on their own by picking up cursed swords and communing with demons
>>553826707How the imperium is handled in 40k is an embarrassment for him. Somebody should make a webseries about that that would run for years and then get assassinated later on.
>>553826104The dog sucks
>>553824875>he approves of, even if you have some eldar running around.The man who was explicitly genocidal towards every single kind of alien, even those living in harmony with humans? >the bureaucracy that the Emperor actually hatesThe one he set up. He always wanted the Senatorum Imperialies in charge of all daily affairs, which is what the Imperium was transitioning towards at the end of the Great Crusade. > the Emperor actually prefers when humans don't fight humans unless those humans are outright chaotic corruptedIf we ignore every non-Chaos corrupted remnant civilization he mercilessly butchered if they refused to join the nascent Imperium back in the day.
>>553825125this didn't happen
>>553826752shotgun specced from the start, but shotguns suck
>>553825536What is the first version of the portrait?
>>553826104Overseer is a meme archetype that does nothing except for giving psykers an easier way to buff and giving officers extra buffs... sometimes
>>553827386Wrong I love my pets besides the dog
>>553827273The same but shinier, should be in the archives somewhere Owlcat changed it for some reason
>>553827386Pasqal overseer with servitor skulls is actually pretty decent
>>553827252Isn’t the dog actually better with melee than shotguns? Attacking every enemy that hits you is pretty good
>>553827386The dog can do a lot of damage and is pretty fun, and the raven is really coolI don't really get the utility of the servo skulls though, nowhere near as many good retransmissionable effects that work on it
>>553826707No. Things have massively deteriorated after his death. He only keeps it afloat with his efforts because he wants the human race to prosper, but he hates what various weak and greedy and selfish and short sighted humans have done with the place in his absence.When Roboute woke up, one of the first things he said was "what the fuck is wrong with you people and what the fuck have you done to my father's empire".>>553827041Correct. He mercilessly killed anything that competition for humanity, because his ultimate goal was humanity's survival and prosperity. It's actually not true that he killed all of them for no reason however, you are forgetting a few stories. If an alien species was useful to humanity, they would be spared.No large government exists without some amount of bureaucracy, obviously and nobody said otherwise, but what we see in the current year is a very far cry from what the Emperor set up in his time. Efficiency and a unified effort towards the betterment of the species were the foundation of his bureaucracy, and those have been pushed down the list of importance by bad actors who seized power in the vacuum left by the Emperor's death. He would have personally made sure things never got out of hand like they have, so to imply they're the same and he set this up is exaggeration to the point of inaccuracy. Again, leaving out important details for the sake of some agenda for some reason. He never killed any human who agreed to join him. The only reason he killed everyone who refused to join him was because he had a vision of the future where humanity is literally extinct if they are not unified, so every egg he cracked along the way was for the survival of the species. Don't leave out such an important detail that explains his behavior, lest you appear biased.
>>553828135go back to /tg/ tranny
>>553828135>It's excusable if he butchers entire planets for not wanting to join a genocidal oppressive monster because the genocidal oppressive monster is a *visionary*
>>553828135>he hates what various weak and greedy and selfish and short sighted humans have done with the place in his absence.how do you know?>If an alien species was useful to humanity, they would be spared.there's only evidence of a single one and even that was in the "kill them once we figure out why they work so well as anti-aging drugs" pile.
>>553827386It does give you additional attacks past your first one via pet commands. Of course it's worse than arch militant but it's playable for variety.
>>553828071His lines are so good with it. Blessed creation something something
>>553828135>"The difference is, I know I am right"I see we're at The Last Church levels of cope now
>>553828135That's heresy talk.
Will Pillars 3 be RTWP or turn based?
Argenta is the strongest because she is canonically saint argenta level.
>>553793674Pls Just not Nenio.
>>553828746They could do both like Pathfinder but they rather make Avowed 2.
>implying that avowed 2 wont save gaming
>>553829027There was an 1?
>>553829027How could it?Veilguard already saved gaming.
>>553829121Punished Maegar?
>>553828359>>553828639Sorry you don't like it and you think he's a meanie poopoo head, but if someone literally sees the future and sees that if he doesn't wrangle humanity into one unified structure in short order, you literally go extinct, then that does indeed explain that behavior. He wouldn't even make excuses for it, he saw the future and what he had to do to ensure the survival of the species, and he did it. It wasn't a question of morality, he's always been a pragmatist and a utilitarianist. He would absolutely sacrifice one to save two, as long as that one provided less utility to the species than the two. All he does is amorrally ensure the survival of the species. And he did. So you can dislike him or call him mean all you want, humanity exists because of him. Whine all you want, he gave you the ability to be alive to whine at all.>>553828485>how do you know?Literally answered in the post you're responding to. When Roboute, his son who lived alongside him, woke up, he literally says as much. He says he doens't even recognize the Empire and that insane people have ruined it in his absence. Why are you asking not only things that have been answered, but are also very basic things that you would know if you read any of Roboute's books. One of his defining character traits is that he knew what things were like in the past under the Emperor and he's trying his best to reinstate some of that, because things are so fucked up now. It's like, the main motivation behind several of the current storyline novels. It's why the High Lords tried to kill him, he's disrupting their hold on power in the imperium, because they are the ones responsible for much of the degeneration that has occurred. We even know the who and the why.
>>553829121>Magera Varn barnThe true 2018 experience
40slopping lore
>>553829326>literally sees the future>failsEither he was an idiot who thought future sight was foolproof, or an idiot who trusted visions he knew were untrustworthy. We can also look at the Eldar to see what happens to clairvoyants: they lose pathetically. >he gave you the ability to be alive to whine at all.Do you think 40k is real life?>When Roboute, his son who lived alongside him, woke up, he literally says as muchRoboute is a much better man than the Emperor. You were claiming the Emperor hated it. >It's why the High Lords tried to kill himWhen?
>We can also look at the Eldar to see what happens to clairvoyants: they lose patheticallyThis is just bad writing (standard for 40k) dune is a much better portrayal of how insanely powerful future site is.
The writing in 40k is on par with the Bible why else do you think it inspires such fanaticism with its fans?
>>553829692The Emperor does hate what the Imperium has become, we do know that from a multitude of stories and by examining the differences between his Empire and the current Imperium. He hates inefficiency, he hates that it has become a religious institution, and he hates that selfish short sighted people looking out for themselves create conflict and inefficiency in the Imperium that hinders the efforts of the species at large. He has always been about the species at large, it's why he did everything he did, so the people who put themselves before the species are directly anathema to his desires. Why am I explaining basic things like this to you?The Watchers of the Throne series includes multiple plots of the high lords to make Roboute look bad, take his office away, and brand him as various things that would get him killed. It's a good read, and several of the questions you have asked are directly answered in that series. It's also the foundation for the upcoming 500 worlds narrative since that's all about Ultramar and Roboute's hand picked generals, so you would be caught up for the upcoming stuff too.
>>553829971Evidently Dune and 40k are two different settings and future sight is more effective in one than the other
>>553830330I was testing you with that comment lol, since you were talking about assassination and the Watchers/Vaults books have no such thing going on. >The Emperor does hate what the Imperium has becomeFrom Dark Imperium, he doesn't seem coherent enough to hate anything.
>>553830321There are no stories about a loaf of bread destroying enemy camps though.
>>553829971the clairvoyant that was the central character of the first (and, at the time of its conception, only planned) dune book was also a complete and total failurepaul muad-dib was the most capable and qualified human to have ever existed, and even he failed to stop a future where entire planets were butchered in his name by fanatical maniacs (whom he also robbed of the future, culture, and agency). this is in spite of the fact that paul COULD SEE EVERY SINGLE EXIT POINT available to him, and still chose not to follow any of them. and while yeah, sure, a good number of those exit strategies involved him dying a grizzly death in the desert, there was at least one which didn't - him walking up to vladimir harkonnen, introducing himself as a harkonnen (which he was by blood), and becoming a viable heir to the throne of the imperium (which the harkonnen were on track to secure through political marriage). he could see everything, and he STILL chose the future that involved billions of humans dying for no good reason. i don't know how you can possibly read that book and not understand that paul is a monstrous fool.
>>553830321they actually believe this especially>>553830330 him
who are the good guys in 40k?
40k has worse writing than fantasy though
Clairvoyants are the worst thing possible to add to your setting.
>>553829971It's not bad writing, it's deliberately retarded writingThe only eldar writer thinks he's writing them like elves in lord of the rings, except he thought the elves' time being past like in the series meant that they should never win any conflicts
>>553830710Good guys?In 40K?Heh, let me stop you right there, kid. If what you're looking for is some "clean cut" morality within factions or races, well best keep on lookin' cuz ya ain't gonna find it here. WarHammer: 40,000 will take every single expectation you have and completely subvert it.It's a little something I like to call "morally gray".First of all this is the 41st Millennium, let that just sink in a minute ;) Here everyone just does what they gotta do to survive, period. It's considered "Grimdark" for a reason: Equal parts grim and dark.
>>553830710my dudes. I have four armies and they fight each other despite all being the good guys.
>>553830710Digganobz
>>553830710The sisters who fuck deldar men
>>553830848Yeah I mean they might eventually be going extinct but it's not happening today or tomorrow. They can still have wins
>>553830710Necrons
>>553830512You're actually wrong, since if the Lord's plot did work, Roboute would be branded in such a way that he would be killed as a renegade. It was ultimately a plot to get him dethroned, then killed, even though it wasn't literally an assassin holding a knife sneaking into his bedroom. All of this was knowingly and intentional by the Lords and various others who stand to lose influence with his ascension."Well akshually, they didn't try to shoot him literally, they just orchestrated events that would get him killed in a punitive campaign as a renegade, so akshually they didn't try to kill him" does not reflect positively on you or your intentions. Not only are you wrong, since their goal was ultimately his death with a few steps in between, but splitting hairs like this is an utter waste of time.The split multi-personality entity that occupies the throne that was born from and split from the Emperor is not directly coherent, but I didn't cite his words now as why he doesn't approve of the current imperium. We know that he was a secular humanist so he would not like that the Imperium has become a religious institution, we know that everything he did was for the survival of the species so seeing the high lords and other nobles being wasteful with the things he built would be contrary to his wishes. We know what he was like, we know some of his fundamental motivations, and we know how the imperium now differs from what he wanted and what he believed in. These are some of the most fundamental aspects of the setting and it's strange you're asking some of these things. "We don't know if the Emperor wouldn't like the current Imperium" is actually completely false, we do know that he would not like it, we even know why, and if that wasn't enough, we even have his son to testify to that as well. You're just wrong.
>>553830710if you don't mind white blue man's burden and "We're the good guys. Join our enlightened and harmonious society, or we will destroy you!", the tauotherwise, whatever random guy on the ground who finds himself in a relative position of power (not enough to rock any boats, but still enough to do something) who is brave enough to stick his neck out to do the right thing
>>553829121ESLs shouldn't write comics
>>553830902Anon, you can't say that.
ChatGPT generate me a paragraph about 40gay RIGHT NOW
>>553831385>>553830902>"Oi, grot. Iz dat zoggin' greenface?"
>>553830653The point of the future sight in Dune is that you’re locked in to what it shows you. Paul couldn’t stop bad things because every future he saw was bad or worse. This leads directly to Leto’s plan to free humanity from the tyranny of precognition.
How come no one’s made a Doom CRPG?
>>553830710You decide>ImperiumFights for themselves, averse to diplomacy most of the time because of misunderstanding the past (dogma) and trauma from bad alien encounters (that also justify dogma)>T'auFights for themselves but is willing to let pretty much anyone join (but they'll kill you if you don't join or don't accept to fuck off / get out of their way)Not averse to not having a homogenous culture but will do whatever they have to sometimes (control units let their bugmen actually function in combat but it changes their society at a pretty big level)>NecronFights for themselves (splintered faction where every lord wants to get their territories back and rule and whatnot, their fight unlike most isn't for survival)Coexistance optional, you can be a slave/vassal sometimes but your life and comfort has no inherent value even then, other factions aren't really worth paying attention to for them>EldarFight for themselves, exodites hide in exodite worlds, craftworlders mostly roam deep spaceConflict averse and avoids contact one way or the other, unless seers determin they have to go do something that puts them in contact with other factions>OrkzFight for no reason except that it's fun for them (your fun is irrelevant)No diplomacy at all, can be tempted to not kill you right now with the promise of having something more interesting to kill later>TyranidFights to multiply that's itNo diplomacy>DrukhariFight for themselves but that means torturing other people for fun (they don't have to do this btw, they just choose this method as their way of dealing with the soul thirst, it's not the only one)Diplomacy possible until they want to torture you, can coexist with other factions as they don't really care about conquering, but they'll harrass them for slaves and fun>ChaosWants to destroy everything, essentiallyNo coexistion possible with anyone, no diplomacy either (chaos diplomacy isn't real because the gods are incapable of actual concessions)
>>553831001Exactly, their main and only writer is just retarded unfortunately so it is what it is
Nobody fucking cares about your 40kek lore
@Grok generate me a essay about 40k
I love when 40tards answer that anon as if it's a sincere question
>>553832206If you could choose anything, which setting would you want to see receive a high quality crpg?
>frogtroon saw people making fun of him in the total war general (he was megaseething about the total war 40k game) and came hereKekypoo
>>553831468>locked into what it shows youmay be explored in later books, but in the original dune book there are many points in part 2 where paul thinks to himself "I could [insert something like dying here] and none of the jihad will happen, I'll be forgotten", and he doesn't take any of them. he isn't locked in until part 3, where he explicitly states that the point that he could avoid the jihad has passed (directly acknowledging that he had the power to change a different future), and instead resigns himself to going "well maybe if i live, i can steer the fremen to not kill everyone while still leading them!". and then, at the end of the book, he realizes "oh, wait, no, it's gonna happen. my life or death doesn't matter any more." i don't have the book in front of me right now so i can't pull exact quotes, but all this is here.he DID have choices and COULD have chosen a different future he saw (he did in fact see more than one future out in the desert on the night of the raid), but he chose vengeance every single time and arrogantly thought that he could have his cake (strike back against the harkonnen that butchered his house) and eat it (not cause the jihad that will devour the galaxy) too. the story of paul atreides is an indictment of charisma and putting power and trust in any one individual, not a philosophical treatise on the nature of fate.
>>553831238>>553830330>>553828135>>553824875thanks for talking about the lore behind rogue trader. I have only played the game so I like learning about this background shit. and I'm not about to actually read a book about it
>>553832520Veggie Tales
>>553832735thank you me for your hardwork
>>553832929>>553832008
>>553832929me i'm a good guy
Styg should just cap player damage by level instead of doing all the retarded hp bloat.
>>553832929The faction you hate
>>553819864BASEDBASEDBASED
>>553829364>tfw no Amiri gf that ties you to the bed and amazon breeds you
>>553833007Ok and? who are the good guys in 40k?
>>553833880>>553832008
I am literally having my mind blown right now>Aeldari>Eldar>ElderHoly shit. And no these aren't your typical fantasy elves. Nothing in WarHammer: 40,000 is typical.Elves. In. Fucking. Space. They even have a special little slur for humans: "mon-keigh" aka "monkey"Pretty messed up right? I don't know how they come up with this shit
>>553834095wee bay would have a nice tau army in his crib
>>553833880Being good is for baby franchises, we only like genocide and blood.
>>553834095>mon-keigh>monkeyTIL
>>553834095That's why it's hard to take the deep lore seriously It all began as a parody/pastiche of everything fantasy and of british politics (and an excuse to pit weird toy soldiers against one another) and trying to spin it as some hardcore deep and thought-provoking universe is just retarded
elf wives
>>553834495unfortunately all the fanboys do
>>553834995are made for human females
>>553834095I just realized orks are basically your typical fantasy orcs.
Every single alien owes me sex.
Everything I know about 40k I learned from the namefag's loredumps and let me tell you it's a pretty dumb setting
>>553834095gue'la = gweilou
why are you retards like this
>>553835263not pictured: me, shrunk down to the size of 1.5L soda bottle, smushed between their lower abdomens and groins
>>553835268Ehhh the fungus bit and reality warping aspect makes them a lot more interesting imho. Probably the only part with 40k I'll say is superior compared to fantasy.
>>553835387Bsased
>>553835382Why would you read them
>>553835646
>>553835646I think 40k is cooler as a setting because guys with guns are cooler than fantasy shit in general, but as a world so to speak fantasy is pretty coolHelps that you can walk up to the chaos gods and kick their balls unlike 40k's chaoswank (slaanesh in age of sigmar got BTFO and TRAPPED AND BETRAYED by elves btw, he's still in the cuckprison too)
Do you think Yrliet says monkeigh with a hard h
>>553835263LELIANA STOP THIS AT ONCE CEASE I SAY
>>553835821don't misgender xer like that
>>553835821>he's still in the cuckprison toopretty sure he enjoys that
Quite enjoying Durlag's Tower, a fun dungeoneering experience.
>>553835821>Helps that you can walk up to the chaos gods and kick their balls not really? you would have to waltz through the chaos wastes to get to them
>>553835861She does when we're erping
>>553836483Well yeah not just anybody can do it but it's a far cry from 40K's "heh sorry bro but teh chungus of terror is LE IMPASSABLE and getting into one of the gods realms makes you LE DIIIEEEE instantly heh so yeah..."
the imperium are chaos dwarves but stupider
>>553834095Don't put that one on James Workshop, "Eldar" is a term Tolkien came up with. James just stole it wholesale and then got butthurt when they couldn't copyright the shit out of it.
GURPS crpg when
>>553836646Chaos gets fucked up all the time in 40k
I have scifi fatigue, bring back fantasy please
WoD CRPG when
>>553837157>Loses all 13 black crusades>ACKSHUALLY THIS WAS THE PLAN ALL ALONGHATEATE
>>553837157Not the gods
>>553835382any attempt to take 40k seriously is pretty pants on head. it's best enjoyed as a dumb black comedy romp every once in a while
>>55383715840k is barely scifi. There's SolASTA coming
>trying to downplay future crpg of the year solasta
more like Soulasta
SolASSshit
I didn't care about Solasta at all until recently and I care about it even less now that that faggots is blogging his playthrough
We love Solasta
>>553836991I heard about this game called "real life". All the NPC's seem to hate me though
>>553837157chaos is unbeatable though, There will always be strife, rot, degeneracy and change
I have no idea why Solasta is even in the OP, it was less played than even Disco Elysium
flopasta
Jae is bae
>>553838989Unfathomably based. Real niggas don't care if she's a jeet
Rediscovery of Kuldahar is a great mod, spent 2 hours just talking to people and doing quest + some talks with modded companions and they have decent interjections depending on who you have.IWD really feels like a proper story + combat RPG with mods, the community turned what's mostly a combat game with story into a balanced quality experience eliminating the weakness of the game. Also have other quest mods installed will see how they go, so far companions and npcs are cool and not cringy, fit the game's tone well.
>>553830653You're wrong on so many levels. Herbert didn't even put pen to paper until he had outlined the first 3 dune books in their entirety, including all the characters. Paul also saw all possible futures, but was powerless to stop the "golden path" because of his son, who had even stronger future sight abilities than himself. Leto II was more intelligent than Paul and knew becoming the tyrant sand worm was a necessary evil to bring humanity into a permanent age of peace and prosperity. Paul was simply a pussy who wanted to hang out in the desert after his eyes melted
Recently went through BG2, idk if Imoen's my favorite anymore. Edward is still funniest man to do it. I think this actually might be one of my favorite RPGs of all time.
Cassia the PAWG
>>553839447Is there actual romance and good waifus in these mods or are you just wasting everyone's time by promoting this?
Who are canon PAWGs in CRPGs? We know Valerie, Galfrey and Cassia fit the criteria. Who else?
>>553839447Keep promoting this
>>553840558Yes, I'm not really in it for the romance but a lot of the companions can be romanced and it seems some have scripted scenes, like Cassia the Tiefling cleric of Helm where you can go get a drink with them at the tavern and talk, the female genasi pyromancer also invited my bard without asking her first, saw romance starting options but didn't pick them. I think my bard would rather go for the cleric given his and her personalites being more compatible.If you really care about romance stuff you have a bunch to pick from and regarding companions: https://www.gibberlings3.net/mods/npcs/crossmod_iwd/ these are the ones that have crossmod banter support so the party feels more alive talking to each other
>>553839148She’s space persian
>>553840092It certainly is one of the greats. There's just enough voice acting to give flavor but not too much.>idk if Imoen's my favorite anymoreUnmodded Imoen really doesn't have anything to say after Spellhold
>>553841764Isn't Persia just part of India that split off?
Do people really romance in these games
>>553841968Literally the opposite
>>553841968You're confusing it for Pakistan
>>553841218succubi can shapeshift so in theory Arue (forma malvada) can be one if you just ask her
>>553841763>Cassia
Which rogue trader companions are actually fun to take along? Characters like Argenta and Cassia are super strong but dreadfully dull.
>>553841763example of random event after this
>>553842542Ulfar>Good at stabbing>Good at shooting>Kicking is a free action that, with Icebreaker Sabatons, refreshes its own cooldown on ranged killHe's the only character that actually weaves in and out of melee and shootingOther candidates include>Heinrix can be built to do basically anything (buffer, tank, stabby, blasty)>Abelard with Fleet Combat Training blows peoples' brains out with a foehammer whenever they so much as sneeze; take Reckless Strike + the guaranteed crit upgrade and he swings one and shoots twice whenever you attack>Kibella because blade dancer is really cool>I wanna say Solomorne but I can't into dog combat>Either Pasqal or Yrliet if you like bounty hunter gameplay
>>553843781>if you like bounty hunter gameplayNobody does
>>553841763>Cassia the TieflingThis is going to get confusing
>>553842542I always take pasqal as he has very unique insights due to being a priest of mars instead of a citizen of the imperiumI often take heinrix and yrliet together because they have wildly different viewsAnd adding onto that I often take marazhai on top of it too for the same reason, plus he likes riling up everyone else so his commentary is funThat's mostly it, cassia is kinda boring, argenta is mostly one note (for the emperoorr!!!) but sometimes I like having her along just because, Idira I often bring with me but to be completely honest I couldn't even tell you what most of her dialog is like I just don't even remember, Abelard is in my party because he's cool but he's nothing special although he has nice grounded comments compared to everyone else due to his job, kibellah is lamer argenta, and I haven't tried out the arbites guyUlfar is like cooler argenta
>>553844184Bounty hunter is the most fun archetype in the game
>>553793678>make it fully voicedfuck off, retard. waiting forever for paragraphs to be read aloud when you can read it at a glance is retarded. voice acting in isometric games should be only enough to give you a voice to read the lines in and major scenes only
I hope that Sawyer gets to make just 1 more CRPG.
>>553841774Yeah. It's a good time. Been 600 years since I last played it in full and that's the cause of replay but I recall liking Throne of Bhaal because of Sarevok joining the team. I like that one voice actor who's in a lot of things, does like stock black guy voice in a lot of cartoons.
>>553844601He doesn’t want to. Deadfire broke his spirit.
>>553832646the only futures he saw out of the desert were the fremen, which put him on the path to the jihad, or the smugglers taking him to the space guild where he becomes mutated, or becoming the barons love slave and eventually turning into a harkonnen psychopath to gain power. all these lead to the jihad and golden path anyway, btw. later, there is another branching where paul realizes that he could stop the jihad by murdering everyone else in the room, including his mother, unborn sister, all his fremen friends, etc. the book is about the dangers of charismatic heroes and paul is arrogant and headstrong (he was bred to be, remember) but it's not like the choices he made that locked in his prophecies were inexcusable.
>>553842542idira. i wish i had the screenshot but I remember one dialogue kibbles had with an npc and idira interrupts to tell the npc not to listen to the goth chick she's crazy and to eat their vegetables.
>>553844601If I ever won the lottery I'm recklessly giving money to Avellone and Sawyer to make some magic.
I wonder how Pentiment did, I mean I'm sure they were expecting modest numbers it's pretty niche
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>>553842162>>553842106he isn't wrong technically
