#6723 - Wake Cup editionPrevious: >>553766546>SimulatorsAutomated:●EDOPro (PC/Android): https://projectignis.github.io/download.html●Master Duel (Multi-plat): https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850Manual:●Duelingbook (online): https://www.duelingbook.comTag: “/dng/” Password: “vidya”; on EDOPro, specify server.Genesys Duels: MR5, TCG, Custom Rules: No Links/Pend/EMZ/Pend Zones>LinksRulebook: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/Wiki: https://yugipedia.comProbability Calculator: https://yugioh.fyiStock Market: https://yugiohprices.comDatabase: https://www.db.yugioh-card.comMisc Info: https://www.formatlibrary.comBlog:https://yugiohblog.konami.com/Alt Format:https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/>BanlistsTCG: https://www.yugioh-card.com/eu/play/forbidden-and-limited-list/ (Oct 27/Next List: TBA)OCG: https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=2406 (Jan 1/Next List: April 1)>DecklistsOCG: https://roadoftheking.com https://tonamel.com/competitions?game=yugioh_ocgTCG: https://ygoprodeck.com/category/decks/tournament-meta-decks>NewsJP: https://yugioh-starlight.comEN: https://ygorganization.com>Upcoming SetsOCG:●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Charmer (Jan 24)●Blazing Dominion (Jan 24)●LIMIT OVER COLLECTION -THE PROTAGONISTS- (Feb 28)●LIMIT OVER COLLECTION -THE RIVALS- (Mar 20)●Chaos Origin (Apr 25)TCG:●Burst Protocol (Feb 7)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Spirit Charmers (Jan 23)●Maze of Muertos (Feb 20)●Legendary Modern Decks 2026 (Mar 13)●Rarity Collection 5 (Apr 10)>Events●/dng/ League S1 (Week 10, Jan 15-Jan 22):https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idp1-lrnk78Hero going second is pure anime KINO.Also people are playing HERO Flash. You guys were way too harsh on it. It's a perfectly fine 1 of as a Monster Reborn replacement with upside.
>>553881042fucker stop spamming that video alredy
>>553880146you're assuming the people making the fanfics are the ones complaining about yugioh's writing.
>>553881329>spamming>got posted once in the last thread and once here
>>553881606>once
Blazing Dominion's last 5 cards will be ___
>>553881647Yes?
>>553881739KAITO GOD
>>5538817403 kewl 1 mitsu 1 odionwe know
>>553881740ASS niccuh
>>553880146Some other things to note about fics: >Joey is either the comic relief or gets glazed as the real best duelist, Tea and Tristan are usually written out so the OC can replace them >Kaiba gets blamed for everything in the spinoffs, even if they have to jump through hoops to connect him to Zexal, Arc-V and Vrains >Atem becomes a snarky asshole hero or a partner to the OC >Judai gets Yubel and his Supreme King powers earlier so he can steamroll his enemies easily or fight the new OC villains which are balanced to his new powerset >Ryo becomes Hell Kaiser early and gets his Cyberdark cards early too >Edo is less of a rival to Judai and more like Saiou's rent boy >Manjoume gets treated like fodder >Misawa gets taken more seriously >Asuka either gets written out or becomes the voice of reason >Sho gets replaced by an OC as the best friend >Aki is either immediately paired with Yusei or Sherry >Yusei gets to live with his parents in Tops >Jack reconciles with Carly >Crow becomes comic relief or is written out >Ruka becomes a spiritual medium >Ushio makes constant DM references >Arc-V fics are dedicated to fixing the entire show and adding more guest characters So outside of yaoi/shipping shit, most fanfics simply want to fix the overall canon by having characters do more weld all of the anime into one big narrative (outside of Zexal/Arc-V, they're almost always their own AUs away from the original trinity)
>>553882051Damn, not even fanfic writers want to deal with or fix Sho.
>found out this card got nerfed with an errata just 3 years after its printing in the OCG (20012004) from Soft OPT to Hard OPTLol, why? Did they break it somehow or something? Or was it because multiple copies could loop each other?
>>553882051Zexal and Arc-V contain way too many contradictions to work as part of the trinity >the duel disk system is completely different from the KC duel disks and Kaibacorp is not mentioned at all in both of them >Zexal ignores the existence of Synchros, we see a fusion and ritual summon but Synchros are ignored entirely >the Numeron Dragon lore contradicts Horakhty entirely Only the statue duel exists as any indication of there being a relation of Zexal to former Yugioh series. Arc-V makes this problem even worse since it has its own multiverse shenanigans with their own takes on characters from GX, 5Ds and Zexal which are huge departures from their original portrayals. That show is clearly a whole AU from the other anime.
>>553882665>>Zexal ignores the existence of Synchros, we see a fusion and ritual summon but Synchros are ignored entirelyuuuuh based?
>>553882405It caused major balance issue with gambling cards because giving you multiple retries of a flip statistically meant you would always win at least one of them and proceed to cheese the game.On another note, coin flip cards are busted on emulated games thanks to save states. You can groundhog day the game to rig your flips.
>>553882389>fix Sho All I see is that they make him less whiny and more proactive but he ultimately gets put on a bus when the OC/Johan shows up.
>>553882951based, bitches aint shit
>>553882951why was everyone in 5d's so gay
>>553883146The Jean quote.
>>553880146>fanfic writers turn them into yanderes for another character>or make them damsels for another character to saveYeah and then they don't do anything with it because for the OCs women only reduce their card drawing speed.
>>5538831572000s Shonen toy commercial, please understand
>>553883204I swear the subs said "I have no interest in bitch". Was that a mistranslation or somebody taking the piss?
>>553883335Not sure, I just used whatever 5D's subtitles I had at the time to make mp4 clips or gifs.
>>553882389That quote is hilarious because in fanfics, it's Ryo who gets all the glazing. He's basically unbeatable until the super special OC villain shows up or his health problems from the Cyberdarks are written out and he's just Wolverine.
>>5538817409 slots on dbp btwdbp gamelimit over collection dbp soon
>>553882951based, he on that road to the top duelist grind
>>553883214They don't want to end up recreating Yubel (who ironically, has her yandere traits downplayed and is more like Judai's voice of reason or a snarky commentator) so they end up making the same annoying fangirls nobody likes for some reason. It's a waste in my eyes because yanderes are like the perfect answer to shonen MCs being dense or not interested. The love interest becomes one of their rivals so they're forced to actually have a dynamic with them that isn't wasting everybody's time with cringe for several episodes only to not even get together half the time.
>dng seriously discussing fanficsno wonder this place is full of mentally ill tards
>>553884124>>553883157>>553883225Made Breo join his path in the process.
>>/a/285293417>12. Yu-Gi-Oh! OCG Stories #6 (24,704)>it might reach 30k or more by the end of the month But /dng/ told me nips didn't like verre! And it's doing better than raye's
>>553885009>doing better than Raye It is OVER for Raye fans if they touch Lab or Diabellstar
>>553884446I could instead discuss yummy cummies, talk about how shit the game is and also post diapers if you'd like.
>>553884841this show was about gay biker gangs and you can't convince me otherwise
>>553884124>to the top duelist grindIf only he just ended his turn for that grind.
>>553885149Unironically the diaperfags are more on topic than most of you fuckers
>>553884124>>553885408>jean and yusei use grindr
>>553885359The show had a biker gang moment later on.
>>553885114>there were people unironicakly arguing raye was somehow more popular than verreRaye is just an industry plant while everybody loves this little gremlin
raye is simply too old, i desire verre's nubile hairless cunny.
>(1) You can discard this card; add 1 Level 1 LIGHT Tuner from your Deck to your hand.>(2) If a “Blue-Eyes” Ritual Monster(s) and/or “Blue-Eyes White Dragon” is sent to your GY: You can target 1 of them; Special Summon this card from your GY (if it was there when the monster was sent) or hand (even if not), and if you do, its ATK becomes that monster’s, but banish it when it leaves the field.Did Blue-Eyes really need another starter/extender? It's big issue is how it can barely play through interruptions and has no going second plan.I know the new Blue-Eyes can Raigeki at end of turn but that doesn't feel like a very reliable or definitive plan, considering you're giving your opponent another turn going second at best.
i miss DRIVEN......
Verre my beloved...
>>553885009Yoshida won.Male self-insert MCs won.HaremCHADs won.Yuritroons lost.Raye lost.Hail Yugioh, hail our card game, hail victory!
>>553887130I still don't like how he wasted an opportunity to write a boss rush gauntlet against Aleister.
>>553885009>But /dng/ told me nips didn't like verre! And it's doing better than raye'sI don't like Verre but I'm glad it's doing better than Sky Striker since I hate Raye even more
>>553882051>>553882665GX and 5D'S aren't consistent with DM. Yubel doesn't exist in the Atlantis arc, crimson dragon is nowhere to be found. Thoughts rewrite reality and create new worlds. Yugioh is like neverending story levels of fantasy writing.
>>553885009The final volumes of Striker did like 30k+ too, so if anything this is just it stabilizing.Or maybe not since Aleister's volumes did terrible
>>553888453>Aleister's volumeYoshida's fault
why is it that like half of the reddit yugioh discord posts here?
>>553888453Aleisterchuds? Our cope?
>>553888791No need to cope, I'm Aleister biggest fan and I've been saying since forever that Yoshida has been shitting on him.Still doesn't negate the fact that he cucked Endymion tho.
Yep
>broken DBP>meta hyper-focused on it for half a year>gets one wave with 1-2 cards each>shit DBP>PHRE who? what?>very first wave has 3 cards each (they know nothing will save them)Comparing CRBR/JUSH with PHRE is night and day. I miss when DBPs could just be decent/presentable with an expectation of 2 good main set waves right after, TAMA-AMDE was alright.
if I activate a card that "double the original ATK" of a monster, can I still aplly effects on it later that further boost its attack, or will its attack be stuck on 2x its original attack?
>>553890032>can I still aplly effects on it later that further boost its attackYes
>If we go by average views on official posts and events, there's at minimum 1M active OCG fans in Japan even if they're not players, if we count the anime stuff it's even higher>OCG Stories sells about 20-30K copies per volume so that means about 3-5% of active fans are interested in itIsn't that kind of low relatively speaking
>>553891648i was really hoping this second card would give blue-eyes something to do going second and to help it play through interruption
>>553891648Future fusion retrain gonna be fun for train/earth machine.
>>553891736Magnamhut went back to 3 would be a great start
>>553892108I hope it gets banned or at the very least stays at 1 forever. Nothing says fuck you more than a 2500 D.D. Crow that -also- will ROTA for the best type in the game*
>>553891503Actually quite high for an unholy mixture between dogshit script and amateurish art
>>553891503I can only speak for myself, but I'm just not interested in the concept. By default it picks archetypes that already have a lot of cards, so the stories are already well-explored. And then on top of that the stories end up different from what the card lore implied, so it feels like I'm reading fanfiction. Throw in the art not being particularly amazing either and I can't see why I should read this.I'd much rather they release a LN series with card lores for everything that doesn't have one yet. I don't want to have to wait until the annual VBEX to find out what's going on, tell me the story of Summon Limit or Smashing Ground on a LN schedule.
>>553892536What makes Miyoshi's art amateurish?
>>553889357At least your archetypes got mentioned>t. prophecyfag
>>553892108that'd still only let you do it once per turn
>>553889639Kek I can see Yuzu and Sora thinking Yuya is trans
Really like Subspace Battle in Gate Guardian
>>553889639This one's good.
>2nd wave of overframes still not in edo
Edotroons fear the buster blader support
>>553899354And its almost a week since the Enneacraft cards were revealed and nothing too
>>553897889yeah adding all 3 pieces is great.but like, then what lol.deck doesn't really make much.
>>553881740This is probably the lowest amount of unrevealed cards a mainset has had before release.
>>553901448It's going to get even lower tomorrow when they reveal the 3 Kewl Tune cards, meaning only 077 and 079 will be unrevealed
>>553901448Nuh uh, it drops this weeke->it does not, in fact, drop this weekWait, what?
>>553901643Do we have confirmation 021 is a kewl tune?I thought it was going to be the last charmer card of the set given the 2nd short
'member flopnesys?me neither lol.
>>553901880Assuming Kewl Tune get 3 cards, 021, 041 and 042 can only ever be Kewl Tunes.>021 is placed after Hecahands and Enneacraft>041 and 042 are after Clown Crew which follows the pattern>077 and 079 cannot be Kewl Tunes as Hecahands' support Trap is 075, so if Kewl Tunes were to get a Trap, they would need to be 076, but that spot is taken by Northern Cross Fire
>>553901880lmao WHY would that mean that>we totally got 2 separate Striker reveals for DUAD>we totally got 2 separate Branded reveals each for DOOD and BPROBesides, 021, 041, and 042 are the only possible slots for Killer Tune support to go
There was a time where I didn't mind support being spread out over multiple sets. That time has passed, now it's just fucking irritating.>Support for some decks I want to play in Burst Protocol>Have to wait months and months and months for it to come out>Only to have to wait months and months more to pick up the even newer and more crucial support in the next main set after that.This is so fucking annoying. I know why they do it, so you technically have to be invested in the next product, but it's completely unreasonable how long you have to wait. It's like half a years wait just to be able to complete a deck I want to play. All the excitement I had for the nearest set is gone because I know that even when that drops I can't do shit with what I'm getting (because I refuse to cope with a gimped deck when I know it's going to get exponentially better with the newer support) until Blazing Dominion or Limit Over Collection or w/e product thats going to be for us, some say rarity collection 5, maybe it is that but that's like 3 months away still.FFS.
>>553901919Genesys became unsalvageable the moment KoA prioritized shilling tier 3 decks instead of making the format better. It shows that alt formats can never be successful with Konami at the helm, because they will NEVER compromise with the players and give them a lower power format where they can play their old cards.
>>553902236It's only maddening because of the clairvoyance achieved by being in the TCG.If we were aligned with the OCG, we wouldn't know about the deck-changing support until it got revealed then we get it in like a month or two.The fact any information we get about BLZD has a mandatory 4 month wait period is pretty fucking shit. The existing format is tested, performed on and solved before it even arrives (with minor exceptions such as TCG exclusives fucking with that) so you are basically twiddling your thumbs waiting for the "real" deck to start.Double that with the fact that by the time you get the cards, a new format has emerged with more powerful cards dominating the deck you were excited for
>it's another pendtroon seething that the format bans his decksKek and the best part is I'm gonna go play at locals at a 200pt Genesys Tournaments today. Winner gets to decide the pt value for next week.
Remember when Genesys was going to overtake advanced and become the new face of Yugioh? I 'member...
>>553902492actually I'm a Jackfag
>>553902338I mean Konami's goals with the format are clear and they genuinely succeeded in doing it: Flopped decks of Advanced dominate in Genesys giving them a clear selling point.>and give them a lower power format where they can play their old cards.Genesys was never about playing with old cards. Even their slogan of "Yesterday's gameplay, TODAY'S CARDS" points out its about modern cards.The problem I personally have with Genesys is that it isn't enough of a difference in gameplay compared to Advanced. Pendulums never mattered in the first place, and Links aren't the problem with the format.Konami needs to make some sort of scaling format.>Each player can only Summon monsters, activate cards or effects, or Set cards X times per turn, where X is the current Turn Count.A format with this alone would be enough of a departure from Advanced as a concept to enable different gameplay. By virtue of it being an alt format, it doesn't impact Advanced players etc.
>>553902338>a lower power format where they can play their old cards.What on earth makes you think this was the goal of genesys? Or even something that's desireable?Anyone who wants to play old formats can already do it.
>>553902753>Konami's goals were clearIf they had told the playerbase that genesys is Pissphoon vs. Flopmage the format then it would have had 0 interest from day 1. People were excited for a lower petdeck format, and not this garbage.
>>553903112Your personal gripes asides the format is doing well at most locals I've visited stateside. Endlessly seething of what you envisioned it doesn't make it any less of a success. It's not breaking barriers but its done a good job of having tournaments with a nearly 1:1 ratio between unique decks and players.
self drolling just to dodge charmies is such a big fuck you to the opponent especially when your endboard looks basically the same i love it. This, in my correct opinion, is the only argument for why droll should remain. as a defensive option for going first gawds. Going second player deserves nothing except maybe a cuck chair to watch play their game then surrender when my turn ends.
>>553902753I wonder where they're going to host the first YCS Genesys venue this year.
>>553903004>>553903256You're shilling for Jewart is pathetic. It was advertised as a lower power petdeck format for newcomers. Not advanced 2.0.
People get too comfortable with the die roll, and Konami should change that.New 3-of handtrap>At the start of first turn's Standby Phase (Quick Effect): You can discard this card; immediately after this effect resolves, skip to the Main Phase 2 of the next turn. Neither player can activate cards or effects in response to this card's activation, also, this card's effect cannot be activated at Chain Link 2 or higher.Win the roll? Better hope to god they didn't open the "Actually I'M/YOU'RE going first" handtrap
>>553903527>n-no you're not agreeing it's a dead format>SHILL kek, also I never made any claims beyond it doing well at locals in the states
>>553903527And this was always doomed to fail because anyone who unironically thinks you can lower the power level of Yugioh is a moron (yes that includes Jerome) And again, if you just want to play a retro format you can do that, but for some reason people who say they want retro formats will do absolutely anything except play them
>>553903527That bullet point would be true for any format that banned another card, or removed a mechanic.
>>553903691>but for some reason people who say they want retro formats will do absolutely anything except play themIt's because they really have no solid basis of having a future. No new card additions and no new format changing banlists means you kind of have to hope there's some innovation to be found within the existing card pool otherwise the best deck is going to be the best deck forever.>anyone who unironically thinks you can lower the power level of Yugioh is a moron I mean you totally can by adding restrictions on gameplay
>>553903853>I mean you totally can by adding restrictions on gameplayYou mean impose permanent floodgates? No thanks. Go play something else
>>553903579the solution is less rng not more of it.introduce a side decking phase right after the die roll so both players entered perfectly prepared for going first or second instead of praying they get lucky.
>>553903953>changing the power level of yugioh is IMPOSSIBLE (note: while it would work, you aren't allowed to do X, Y or Z because you just can't OK?)alright buddy
>>553903978Wouldn't that be too strong going first?
>>553903978Adding a whole new tournament phase is more effort than printing a new Secret Rare shortprinted staple card in a side set
>>553904119Changing the power level of Yugioh with a banlist is impossible, yeah. Changing the power level by fundamentally changing the rulebook because you want every game to be a stun mirror is possible I guess but it's retarded and would turn away everyone but apes.
>>553904207going first becomes stronger but so does going second.imagine just being to instantly ram all Maxx "C" + 9 charmies + droplet + evenly + DRNM + lightning storm knowing full well they well all come up.also if they ever unhit sangen kaimen people can be running around with a 12 card 1 card OTK engine in their side decks.
>>553904572I think the going first player still wins out>side out all bricks (Mulcharmies, other handtraps etc.)>side in extenders and turn-ending floodgates you can just set>win
>>553904817evenly LS then win cuz your opponent decided to just set cards and pass like it's 2005
>Logan Paul is dumping all he can with Pokemon and now going all in on One PieceHoly fuck I feel sorry for people who actually play One Piece
>>553899679akiza be riding his junk
