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Looking Hurt Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/12-29-2025-update.95233/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>553781750
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>>553927002
i love playing vindicta
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white woman game
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>>553927283
I love white women
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>>553928537
Same.
t. White Woman
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>enemy warden gets a free lane because my ivy constantly leaves lane
>I get leaving lane between waves for boxes but my ivy was gone for like half the laning phase slowly farming camps with her headhunter
>warden gets cocky and rushes glass cannon
>he gets one kill and then goes on an endless chain feed
>watch as he tries to avoid every engagement because he's so squishy (he didn't max his 2 lol)
that was funny, it made up for my ivy being a sack of shit
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>>553927283
woah watch your words buddy, you might anger the kween lovers ITT
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>>553929710
did i say that it was a bad thing?
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why the fuck is viscous gun doin so much damage? am I missing something?
he is literally just running people down while being slightly ahead
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>>553930475
He's still got Kevin's original gun stats.
You know, the stats that literally got all of gun's items nerfed into the ground at one point.
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Silver's paw
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>>553930475
>viscous is a fun spirit nuker
>nerf splatter and goo ball
>make him a gun faggot
please nerf his gun and bring back a viable echo shard splatter build, holding m1 is sooooooo boring
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>>553930475
Because every time an M1 character gets nerfed people try new characters and it takes about a week for people to realize there are 3 other characters who also have an overtuned gun because everyone refuses to acknowledge that the real problem is that gun items are jack of all trades busted broken shit
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https://streamable.com/21gq2w
Quick little save to start the day
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so why they'd call it the holiday challenge if you only had to play holiday once
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>>553932091
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>win because sidelane minions kill downed enemy patron while entire enemy team is rocking our shit in our base
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>>553933140
In dota this happened all the time but I think it's only happened to me twice in deadlock, I guess because the patron does damage.
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THIS is what Dynamo should've looked like.
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>>553933508
RAPE
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>>553927283
Is that a good or a bad thing
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>>553930916
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>morning experimental updates
LETS GO YOSHI
MONDAY PATCH
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yesterday I played a match where they was no haze, infernus or mcginnis but I still haven't gotten any sort of rare achievement. Is this a bug and has it already been reported?
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If you are doing well on haze/vindicta/wraith i will instantly assume that you are cheating
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>>553927283
it does have some sims/pokemon mechanics built in
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>>553930728
Just play puddle punch build with on hit effects and rapid recharge.
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yoshi just flew over my house
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>>553935956
HHHHHRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNGGGGG
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>>553935878
It's strong early game but it falls off pretty hard.
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>sand blast does damage again
holy shit bros, you can combo it with suppressor
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>>553937009
>suppressor
>mystic slow
>disarmed
>long ass duration
>echo shard
sorry gun carry you don't get to play the game
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she will be added to fortnite
source: it was revealed to me in a dream
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>>553938437
>>553938171
you guys can just go to a different general or something for a while, you don't need to bump the thread with this kind of dreck.
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>>553938590
fair but i did legitimately just wake up from a dream where that happened and thought it was funny
fitting too that it was haze
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>>553927002
where is the fucking update LOCKTARDS?
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NO OTHER CLASS GONNA DO THAT
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>>553943407
i can tell this lobby is emissary- because you aren't diagonal dashing
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>>553943789
i'm phantom 3 what is diagonal dashing you may tell me
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>>553943863
you dash diagonally instead of forward
it makes you go further
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>>553944620
(nta) i know of diagonal dashing but when i see high level players do it i barely see their camera turn to make up for the angle
is there something i'm missing about it
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>>553944620
do you hold w and a or d or something
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>>553944916
yes it has to be in the air, you jump then w+a/d dash
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>>553927283
Dog hero when
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>>553945027
how am i supposed to press 2 while holding 2 other things
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>>553945550
silver next week
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>>553945846
I think they mean the normal Shift dash, not Shiv dash specifically
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>>553945846
i mean regular stamina dash not shiv's dash
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>>553946374
>>553946738
oh i used to do that like picrel 24/7 but then everyone told me it's less speed so i stopped
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I just tested it and diagonal dashes don't seem any different honestly
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>>553908218
germanic bros we're never recovering from this
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>>553929584
>ivy actually upgrades hsb
yep I feed. literal dog shit item that falls off the instant lane ends. and headhunter being so bad early on doesn't make up for rushing it. just retards who never adjusted when they nerfed it. same as people rushing siphon.
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>4 man lash ult
>yell into my mic that I have 4
>throw enemy towards my team
>come down with a stomp
>my team just watches until the enemy blows their load on me
>we lose
we need the new patch so fucking bad. I don't understand how these players are real, like how are you playing this game but don't understand how to capitalize on something as huge as a 4 man lash ult, it's egregious .
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>>553948542
>>553947251

it helps to have the command on to see current velocity when you are practicing, the video he shared does a sideways dash then turns to face it. High level players do it diagonally, holding W and A or D while hitting shift. Look at the video at minute 3:00. Its takes me a minute to undertand the video because hes talking fast and I have 67 somalian IQ

https://youtu.be/yOouXhhSuRg?si=l_HX9AyTONhyT2SE&t=180
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>>553948542
i don't get it either.
it has to be a hoax that the entire playerbase fell for.
either way, this shouldn't even be a mechanic because that's just stupid.
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>>553948937
>lash swaps to my lane as dynamo and goes "ayyy wombo combo"
>proceeds to land 0 stomps, just flogs and shoot with 0 gun items cowering behind tower
>gets ult
>jumps up into the air
>the enemy just LOS him as he ults
>"yeah I'm not having fun"
>disconnects and reconnects like 5 times, feeding each time on a different lane
>abandons at 12 minutes
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>matchmaking assigns lanes to balance player elo in laning phase
>lane swaps happen in every single game
>one side of the swapped lane gets completely shitstomped
they have to ditch this as a concept
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>>553950023
this is why i ignore all lane swap requests.
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>>553950167
Ehhh I understand but some lane matchups are straight up unwinnable if you don't switch. Like what the fuck is Billy gonna do against a Talon/Vinny lane?
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>>553950628
play like a bitch and keep the troopers away until he gets ult and two free kills
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>>553950767
10 seconds in and I see how dogshit your aim is and don't want to watch any more.
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>>553950767
all that for 1 kill and 300 souls when you could have 3v1d them if you had purple items
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>>553950767
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metro in charge of not getting shit on by NA randoms
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>>553951589
but you didn't do anything
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>>553951589
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>>553951589
Who let metro play Mina?
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>>553950628
if you play smart and just don't engage with a lane you know you cannot win, the net worth gap is a few hundred souls at best.
some characters just win lane by default so it's better that i get to be in the lane against mina and make the game boring for both of us instead of letting her end laning phase with 8 kills and two of my retarded teammates down 5k souls.
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>>553951589
you didn't fucking do anything
in factr while all this nonsense nothing is happening you're losing green walker
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>>553952931
>some characters just win lane by default
mina, mcginnis, billy
who else
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>>553951854
I got 2(two) vampire stacks and I had fun.
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>>553953274
>>553952931
i play mina and i can confirm this character is disgusting in lane
and i thought zagara from hots was lane hitler
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Every now and then I'll play like 6 deadlock games in one day and by the end I have a headache, my neck hurts, and I'm stressed and sad.

No other game ever has this effect on me. How some tubers play deadlock of 8 hours straight every day boggles my mind. This game is a fucking work out and a surgery all at once
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>>553954447
i had this happen for a bit but i got used to it and it stopped.
you're in your locked in position for too long so either fix your posture or relax when there's nothing going on.
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>>553954447
it really is an acclimation. win or lose would feel like a cathartic release, I finished a game that took 45 minutes with my teammates talking and emitted whatever mood, mad sad adhd or something else. it definitely is taxing on the brain, I literally started saturating my creatine levels just to have the mental repetition feel better. drink water, make sure you eat, definitely do not play this game to stay up if you arent ready to get wrecked
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>>553935878
you're just gonna get your entire build countered by a single t1 item if you do that
i hate how fucking braindead parrying is
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>>553954680
>>553954935
I nearly have 2000 hours. And I'm used to binging games in general. Only Deadlock does this, something about the screaming russians and 40 minute tourture sessions with no down time that's really strenuous.
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>>553955563
as opposed to the brain taxing action of holding q?
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>>553956216
the melee you have to
>get close to someone in a shooter game
>bait a parry
>press q
>actually hit the melee because 1 dash is enough to dodge it unless you speend 6.4k
>stay close if you want to hit it more than once
meanwhile parry
>press F
>at the right time (optional)
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HOLY FUCK!!!!
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>>553958671
Real?
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>>553958671
very sloppy edit
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>>553958824
No.
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>>553958671
If this was actually today it would just say the clock time and not the date
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>>553959103
Oh damn
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>>553954447
Yeah anything more than 3 games a day is a no go for me, its so fucking exhausting. I have zero clue how e-celebs doing it, yes playing games is their job but this shit takes so much of your brain power.
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>>553958671
Sloppy AI
Fuck you
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>>553958671
>15/1
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>>553959481
do you REALLY think someone would need AI to do a basic ass edit like that? AI slop has melted your brain
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>>553959491
You know that only America puts the month before the day, right?
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>>553958671
>fake
You take advantage of my state of vulnerability.
Shame on you. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.
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>>553959579
Then how do you explain the random artifacts in the date? So whoever made this crap was actually dumb enough to need AI for it.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1qdsknp/lets_talk_about_one_of_the_worst_defensives_in/

even reddit knows gun carry dominance is going to kill this game
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>>553951854
He's a Mina player. He thinks using his low cooldown double invul dash is peak skill expression and makes him a movement god.
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>>553959789
yes, i know what im stating, ivan
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>>553959476
anything more than 0 games ruins my day fuck this game frfr it's not fun it's just a job
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>>553959804
I made this edit in paint and intentionally made it bad like putting the year as 2025 (it was 2024 orginally) because funny. The "artefact" is just the reminants of the previous number that I left visible
>not a single person even noticed we're in 2026
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>>553930916
It really would be so much better if the counter items actually fucking counters, Bullet resilience does jack shit, metal skin gets you 4 seconds of survival until you are obliterated, plated armor is nice but its 6k with no build ups and is also easily mitigated by a buy on their end (Which they can afford because gun carrys are fed as fuck)

>Valve: here is a game full of fun characters with fun abilities that encourages team play and creative use of the kits
> Also Valve: if you have two of these characters on your team you're likely to win purely on the action economy of damage
> No you cant pick your team, that would be silly
> No you cant surrender either, you're gonna spend the next 40 minutes playing the same game of getting gunned down by a fed mcginnis and you're gonna like it

I feel like a fundamental problem is when you buy a resistance you're doing it because you're losing, and now since your investing your money in resistances you're output is decreasing and floundering so you're just gonna stay behind as the gun carries go harder and harder. It feels like to balance it, the resistances need to do more than just give flat resistance
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>>553960339
Proof 2025 was the greatest nothing burger year ever
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>>553960339
Everyone is retarded but I don't blame em, the wait is agonising. Just one more week... (or pushed to feb)
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>>553960339
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>>553960630
IS THIS REAL?
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>>553960613
>three days ago yoshi said they're confident it will still be in january
>already going crazy
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>>553930916
bro everyone acknowledges it gun is disgusting and shit for the game, the guns arent even fun to use idk why they're forcing them so hard
>>553959836
>>553959836
>>553959836
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>>553960750
He also said they were aiming for dec and look at how that turned out.
This is valve so shit takes forever.
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>>553960339
based troll
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>>553960856
They also had everyone leave two weeks into December, they're at least a month away from going on vacation again.
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What's the most satisfying thing for you during a match?
>pressing 4 on seven and seeing 6 enemy hero icons appear on the screen
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I have four heros left for the ornaments (haze, mo&krill, mina, and the jump pad lady) is there time this weekend to complete them do you guys think before the patch? Also any tips for these heros?
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>>553961104
ivy taking lash's sloppy frank getting it all over her mouth
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>>553961370
2 weeks til feb so you have plenty of time
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>>553961341
just the sound of hitting 6 enemies and two dozen minions with a seven ult is so nice
>patron dies anyways
yeah
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>>553960563
I think the problem actually runs deeper and the jungle changes really fucked up the game balance. M1 carries are just way better at doing the jungle than other heroes and cultist is such a disgusting item in general. You die once to the enemy Haze and she can fuck off to the jungle for like 2 minutes and farm up 4k souls and 3 sinners. It's also because it's way too hard to punish M1 carries from doing camps because most of the time they will have their ability CDs ready to go and that's besides the fact that they will have a large soul lead on you most likely. This in turn means they will have enough items where you pitiful 30% bullet res (that gets shredded anyways) will not matter because they're up a full T4 item or more on you.
Also, fury trance needs to be reworked or gutted
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>>553961851
This is a huge problem
gun carries arent as impacted by losing lane as say a lash or mo and krill are so they just feel ass to play in comparison
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Started getting bored of dota a while back, even the largo update didn’t feel good but godamm this game makes me feel like I discovered dota again with the same intensity every game, also like the early days too where there were still people who are positive and not complete ghouls with 8-10k hours. I’d say most of my games are quite friendly which is nice, people feel a future with this game while the people who play dota are so jaded every game is a chore, even the stomps games in deadlock are better.
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>>553961370
haze and mo&krill are easy to play, mina is really strong so it shouldn't be difficult, holliday is a little tricky but once you get the jump + throw + melee combo down you can play her as cc spam and do pretty well
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>>553961851
>it's way too hard to punish M1 carries from doing camps because most of the time they will have their ability CDs ready to go and that's besides the fact that they will have a large soul lead on you most likely.

I love this one. People always give the advice of hunting the carry while they are farming but then the haze just sleeps you, the wraith just ults you, the Victor just presses three and ignores you until it's ult time. None of the hyperfed carry characters have bad early or mid games.
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>>553961684
O' HOLY LIGHT
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>>553961851
I suck with fury trance and maybe it’s the wrong heros I build on but what makes it so broken?
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Sigh, couldn't stay green forever I guess, they've started sending the agents in my game, it's over.
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Yoshi DM'd me and said they're gonna have to delay the patch until April and he was asking me for advice on how to break the news to the community.
I called him a fag
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>>553962217
I wish I could pull my dota friends away from that garbage but they're too stuck in. Maybe with the new update...
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>>553962301
Thanks I appreciate the advice!
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>People still surprised when they see carpet George & Floyd
I think it'd be the obvious choice since ability duration is so good on them.
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>>553962217
believe me this game will only make you appreciate dota 2 more

I'd still play dota 2 if it wasnt invested with peruvians
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>>553962818
I call him Muhammed and Jamal personally.
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I have never seen a gun doorman do well after the nerfs. I'm starting to think he's another seeker myth
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>>553963118
NTA but the larger map killed my interest in the game. And honestly there's a lot of visual clutter now with all the water, it looks really ugly.
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>>553962456
It's one of the most overstated items in the game, and it only costs 3.2k. I wouldn't say it's the best on every hero but it gives fire rate which is the best gun stat in the game while also being a green item. So it makes you tankier while giving you insane burst damage potential. You want to use it when the enemy is looking to dive and burst you since it silences and disables stamina, but you can also use it to take objectives and do camps way quicker.
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>>553963315
larger map was necessary because every game was just
>get lead from lane
>choke out enemy from the triangle until you push highground
it's the exact problem deadlock has right now there's zero strategy just abusing your lead and farming until the lead is so big you can't possibly lose
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I've been playing too much warden/seven/paradox and especially warden/seven are making me feel braindead
who play? tell me what do
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>>553963650
Lash.
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>enemy team has a better jungle farmer
>lose
Spirit died for this
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>>553963356
it's like specifically made for haze to make her super bullshit
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>>553963549
It's been so long since the map change so I don't remember the reasoning but that just sounds like a consequence of the constant mobility creep. I played for a couple months after the map change and it felt really passive. With no changes to ward aoe or cooldowns it just seemed like you barely encountered the enemy team, and you'd often have their hard carry disappear until they came back with a huge gold lead. Id go back instantly if they brought back the smaller map
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I gottta say chat appearing as speech bubbles under portraits is the funniest shit ever
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Patch status?
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>>553964276
cancelled
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>>553964276
bro... check your steam!
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Is this Paradox build good? id 237103
I'm rusty and don't know how to play and this is a util ganker build where I usually see people just crank gun. I'm alchemist btw.
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>>553964834
you're too low rank to expect people to get kills off your picks
just go gun so you can carry
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I suck at this game but jesus christ it feels like the teams are stacked so 1 sided lately.
>Lose lane
well that sucks hopefully we can piggy back of oth-
>every lane is lost with guardians down and walkers being pressured
>multiple enemies with like 8 kills no deaths
>already 20k behind
There needs to be a surrender option in games like this
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billy can keep mercurial magnum up essentially forever because melee to get more ammo doesn't count as "reloading", it only wears off if you press R/empty the mag
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>>553964276
they are so fucking slow they are now splitting the december patch into 2 patches that will come out next week (frfr this time bro trust :rose emoji: and some time later likely late april (if even that soon)
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>>553965416
Vyper can too by sliding, it's not really much of an exploit imo
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WHEN IS THE UPDATE AAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>553965553
that's a retarded rumor
just because they're working on things that won't make it into the update doesn't mean the update is being split
it means they've content locked some parts of the update and the team members responsible for those parts can get a head start while the code monkeys and playtesters get this update ready to ship
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>be lash
>enemy team comp is : wraith, pocket, dynamo, ivy, viscious, mina
>your ult is now entirely useless

fun
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>>553966230
>buy silence wave
woah
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they need to buff return fire
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I can't aim.

Can I play this game?
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>mfw i just started playing again few days ago so i don't care when the new patch comes
yoshi can take his time
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>>553966886
When active, attacks against you shouldn't be able to lifesteal, or have like 50% lifesteal, make it 3.2k
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>Just learned how to carbine dash on paradox
This is so much fun
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>>553966972
Yes but it's mandatory to complain about how players who can aim better than you are brainless retards for doing that.
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>>553966972
at least half the characters dont require good aim so yeah
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>>553967103
how do you do it?
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>copy fat man's ult and use it against him
>my partner unfolds a cuck chair and sits there watching
50/50 agents are real.
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>>553967380
you zoom to zoom
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>>553967380
You sprint while aiming down sights with carbine active in the air and it gives a insane boost of speed. It takes some practice but stamina mastery makes it easier
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>>553967832
My bad you hit the zoom in aim with carbine and spam dash but let go of the zoom in aim at the same time.
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>253 games played
>98 games won
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>>553966972
every character that's good either spams a gigantic aoe, shoots a bullet hose in the enemy teams vague direction with a bunch of + on hit effects, or fights point blank
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>>553968630
>>553967183
>>553967130
I really wanna clarify, you've tempted me, but I want to make sure. I not only can't aim by average standards, I have a muscular tension problem where using my fingers causes my forearm to twitch pretty violently. I aim like I have parkinsons.

Still fine?
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>>553968860
You're going to be the guy appearing in my team after I win 3 games in a row.
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>>553968860
can you aim well enough to play minecraft?
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>>553968860
you're a shoe in for mo & krill, paige, turret mcginnis, or any build that melees
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>>553965215
>There needs to be a surrender option in games like this
there is one, just stop defending and let all your shit die :)
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idk why i play this fucking game i don't understand how to lane so i'm always crawling back from a horrible early game where i severely disadvantaged my team
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Does fire rate affect melee at all?
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>>553969720
no
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>Wraith buys Curse and Focus Lens
just delete these shit items please
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>>553949493
>>553948542
Are you guys stringing two in a row? One by itself is hard to tell the difference
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PATCH IS OUT RESTART STEAM
HOLY SHIT THEY RELEASED ALL OF THEM AT ONCE NO DRIP FEED
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>Slowing Hex does not stop Pocket from teleporting to his cape

why
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>>553970985
Fuck you. I'm going to play Minecraft
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>>553971263
but... it does
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Its real
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>>553951589
>>553950767
REALLY DREADFUL, THANKS FOR SHARING
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we already know we're going to get a few days notice before the patch, you guys can stop pretending to be retarded faggots now.
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>>553969640
i only won 8 of my 30 something games as kelvin
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>>553971627
We know that?
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!

mina fuck off you're not invited
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>>553969798
What if those items had a bigger effect duration the higher souls the person you're using it against has? No reason to give broken over farmed gun carries even easier wins
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>>553971627
yeah but it's fun to say they might just drop it any day because they actually might, it's happened before
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>>553971627
why would they do that?
i'm telling you it's gonna be shadow dropped
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>>553969640
looks like my goo boy stats
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>>553969640
>i don't understand how to lane
kill the enemy creeps, shoot the orbs above their heads, shoot the orbs above the heads of the creeps the enemy kills, dont do stupid shit that will get you killed. learn what characters you suck laning against and swap lanes to not be against them
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>>553971627
Because it just dropped now anon, check the forums!!
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YOSHI IS FUCKING TYPING
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>>553972048
>>553972449
please see the image
>>553959103
"we'll let you know when it's a few days away"
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>>553969640
I hate paradox because I can't aim so her crossbow 3 is useless, her 2 is useless because the enemy still shoots me through it, her 4 is useless because I can't aim so i either miss it or I swap and then get put in the middle of the enemy team
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A YOSHI JUST FLEW OVER MY FAURKING HOUSE
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I hate laning with teammates that are scared of Mina. Much like real women, she only has as much power as you give her.
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>get a 5 game winstreak
>get my guaranteed loss because bebop goes 4/20/8, feeding the enemy victor like crazy
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>>553962818
>>553963247
Mohammed & Al'Krillin.
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>>553973104
he means you as in the person he is replying to so you'll have to find out who it is and ask him if yoshi has said anything yet
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THE PATCH JUST DROPPED, RESTART STEAM
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>>553973445
people are scared of her becuase halfway through the second wave she buys 1 item, does love bites into rake and 30% in about 2 seconds every 10s
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Yoshi doesn't fuck me like he used to I think he's cheating on me
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Mikhail and Kirill
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Anything you wish you knew when you started playing? Just got my invitation and I feel anxious as fuck. It's also my first PC game after years on console.
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>>553973931
Just don't get shot.
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>>553974168
Don't play it like a hero shooter or you will die. I was coaching my friend who wanted to try the game (in a bot lobby) and his first instinct was to run straight at the enemy in lane only to get melted and die to the guardian (the big statue holding a stick in lanes)
What I wish I knew? Confirms and denies. Shoot the orbs above the heads of the creeps (the little npcs you fight alongside), so that you ensure you get souls from killing them, and deny the enemy team from getting souls from them
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>>553973931
You can literally see what percent of love bites you have in the bottom left, just hide if it's about to fill up
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>>553974168
NOT DYING IS VERY IMPORTANT
IF A TEAMMATE IS TAKING RETARDED FIGHTS, DO NOT FOLLOW HIM! EVEN IF HE CRYS ABOUT IT
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>>553974094
Ukraine does not exist in this timeline. Its establishment is linked to the Russian Revolution which did not occur/was significantly different. Not to mention that this flag was very new at the time and was more associated with Galicia than with Ukraine. This hairstyle and moustache are also completely out of place in this historical period. It is too late for them to be real Cossacks and too early for them to be modern LARPers.
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>>553974168
It's a pretty complex game, I would genuinely play a dozen or so bot matches to get a hang of how the game works, because if you don't know what you're doing you're just wasting 30 minutes or so of 5 other people's time
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>>553974994
Ukraine exists and they killed Raven.
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>>553928661
You will never be a woman, looney troon
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>>553974508
>Don't play it like a hero shooter or you will die.
Very nice reminder, thanks. The only other online game I played was Overwatch, so I guess I should keep this in mind.
>Confirms and denies.
Noted.
>>553974712
Haha, alright. Thank you for the tip.
>>553975316
For sure my intention. The idea of booting up ranked right now is terrifying to me. Thanks for the heads up!
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>>553974168
economy is important
don't leave souls on the table and let the enemy get ahead
if you're in-between waves go punch some boxes or do a nearby creep camp. but don't lose a wave of lane troopers for it

if your lane partner dies try not to kill too many lane troopers, save them for when they get back so they don't fall behind.
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>>553974994
Ukraine existed before russia
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>>553976053
No
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can't believe the patch is out in 7 days bros i can't wait
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>>553976296
yeah i can't believe it either
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>Play anything other than lash
>don't have fun
>play lash
>have fun
it's that simple.
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>>553961341
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>>553974190
>>553974656
I was replying to a post about why people are afraid of mina, you spastics. hiding in a corner till your debuff goes away is the definition of being afraid. you can't rush her down despite her tiny brat hp because she just kills you
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>>553961341
when lightning scroll interrupts an ult feels good man
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unirocially the m1 issue could be solved by reworking kill bounties
>m1 haze is 20k sounds ahead
>dies to whole team killing them at doubles
>each player gets like 500 souls each and then dies to hazes less fed teammates which gives them each like 600 souls for some reason.

If you kill someone 20 and 0 in dota you get like 2k gold to the killer and like 500 to each player along with like 2 levels each.
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>>553961341
punching drifter to death as paige during his ult (this was when he was broken)
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HOLY SHIT IT'S HAPPENING
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>>553977159
I swear on me mum this is the most underrated item in the game right now. The deathball meta unironically buffed this, I rarely have a game where I don't have 16 stacks.
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>>553977893
game saved
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>>553961341
put hunter's mark on someone, pop arctic blast, teleport to them and shred
spirit drifter is much more fun (and useful) than gun drifter
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>>553974168
we're about a week away from them releasing the casual gamemode where they stripped down the MOBA mechanics, so if you feel overwhelmed you can try starting with that
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>>553977893
>Banning all Russians
It'll just kill the game. I can't imagine it being a success without all those Russians. Hate us all you want, but we are literally the second largest group of Deadlock players right after Asia.
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>>553974994
My guy is leaking over a meme edit of Mohammed and Karim
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>>553961341
actually hitting a holiday lasso on an enemy trying to escape
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>>553978191
Yeah, sorry, I just really hate Ukraine.
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>>553978126
>10 playable niggers
>0 playable russians
niggers>russians, we don't need you
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>>553945550
Shalom rabbi
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>seven
>T2 ball (-35% move)
>mystic slow
>slowing bullets
>slowing hex
is this anything?
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>>553978126
Oh no, God forbid the game loses the demographic that infamously loves to cheat!
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>>553977893
to be honest, Vindicta would work better if she was just floating in air with no feet under her dress
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>>553978392
no because the ball is a useless piece of shit that hits someone for a fraction of a second before they just step out of it.
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>>553978419
>infamously loves to cheat
no one mentioned the chinks thoughbeit
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>>553978419
Cry about it. You are forced to play with us because people from your country are too braindead to play something like Deadlock and prefer Call of Duty and Fifa.
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>>553978392
balls should have a 5m radius and longer cd by default
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They should bring back the whole
>Destroyed objectives release soul orbs that can be shot to be claimed/denied
If only to make people defend objectives
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>rebuttal to 1600
>counterspell is now a 6400 item and builds out of rebuttal
would you be mad
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>>553978392
No
Moveslow stacks multiplicatively and there's a moveslow cap.
Closest scenario where this is viable is a Mina with Superior Stamina for the dash slow, but you're sacrificing too much potential damage.
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>>553978392
>movement speed slow
debunked. just press spacebar and they don't do anything.
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>>553978310
Tell me you're at least not a r*ssian right
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>>553978764
None of the people who get put on my team know what claiming and denying is
Also I've literally had walkers die because the guy who went to relieve it went to chase the enemy that was there while not touching the creep wave
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Why can't we all be friends?
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>>553977920
>item gives 25 health and 25 souls per minute
>fuck all people buy it
>gets buffed to 35 souls
>nope
>gets buffed to 38 souls
>people actually start buying it here
>gets nerfed all the way to 22
>"yeah man I'm really feeling this item now"
tell me why a healing nova is not a better all in brool item
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>>553978996
Thank God I'm Russian. Although genetically I'm more Ukrainian than President of Ukraine
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>>553979213
everything else it gives? It's not just money and health, it's speed and range. it's the only item that gives so many things.
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>>553977920
2400 souls for a dead slot until you're racked up kills
even if you're stomping lane you've leveled the playing field by buying it
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>>553978710
>Slavnigger thinks he is smart
topjej, delusional rapemeat spawn.
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>>553977159
this is the dedicated "what if 16 vs 16 players all played in one lane on a custom map" item, and it has no other uses
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>>553979537
Sorry but you're playing the slavnigger game
Cry about it
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>>553978530
>>553978867
>>553978883
drat
I'm gonna try it anyway and see if I get my shit rolled
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>>553979659
Deadlock Danger Zone when?
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>>553979213
>Valve adds an item
>doesn't test it
>people complain it's shit
>devs buff it a little
>Valve finally understands how retarded the whole concept was and nerfs it into the ground
story as old as time
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>>553977159
I feel like I snowball hard with this just by rotating mid whenever the lobby is unga bunga'ing in shitlow, but high elo players say its terrible. When I watch E6 vods they deathball as well so I'm not sure if its a noob trap or underrated because people would rather play jungle simulator.
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>>553979819
Look, just build expansion and lightning scroll and you can get some funny ball stuff while still fulfilling your role as ultbot
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>>553979927
>When I watch E6 vods they deathball as well
you win because you buy it
they win because they don't
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>>553974994
i doubt a literal ghost empress would give up the monarchists' power to the bolsheviks - especially in a world where no world wars happened.
i guess bolshevik rule had to evolve out of the 1905 revolution's system or out of a february revolution-like event that forced the government to allow bolsheviks into the country's power structure (for example by enstrenghtening the duma enough to be the true decisionmaking power in the country), allowing them to slowly achieve total control of the country later on without touching the head of state, so by, say, banning other parties one-by-one, akin to how hitler did it.
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>>553977993
Better:

>jump someone, they bail before you can clinch the kill
>They get a bit of distance and assume they're safe to zip because lol Drifter M1 has norange
>tag them with mark as they jump on, TP, stun their ass off
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>>553979927
in e6 if you waste 2400 on that shit you just lose all your fights
buying something that makes you stronger immediately gets you more souls than TC because you get kills and can steal jungle
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>>553977893
ill take that trade any day of the week, thanks yoshi
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>>553966230
You need to get your team to communicate when someone uses a cooldown so you can at least solo/double ult. Or yeah buy silence wave.
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>>553980703
>banning other parties one-by-one, akin to how hitler did it.
>banning
look up Azef, his methods were far more effiicient
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>>553979878
>doesn't test it
bro.... have you forgotten what this PLAYTEST is for?
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>>553978126
>Hate us all you want
thank you I will
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>>553981582
Gool luck
lmao
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>>553981374
>PLAYTEST
sir, it's 2046, we're on our 20th release anniversary
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>>553981374
We're in full release. The actual playtest are the faggy discord users in their sekrit club.
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>>553981374
We're not given the playtester build access.
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>>553981136
oh yeah, there's many possible scenarios. we're just theorycrafting after all, and we dont even really have anything to work with apart from historical parallels
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>>553981374
the actual playtesters are the twitch streamer fags
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>>553981118
>You need to get your team to communicate
My team literally never says a word
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>>553982302
That's gonna be gg then. Best you can do is find a duo to help or start talking yourself and hope for the best.
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HOW
FUCKING
LONG
DO
WE
NEED
TO
WAIT
FOR
DRAFT
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>>553983143
just a few short years, sweaty
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Ability draft in this game would be... kinda shit.
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>>553983143
I don't know why people would expect it before launch
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>>553983143
NEVER BEING ADDED PEOPLE CANT BE EXPECTED TO PLAY MORE THAN ONE CHARACTER
Game is too hard for that.
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>>553983143
Get a high enough elo and maybe you can join me and my folk in the real test~
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Do we have a map of every dota hero ability cannibalized for deadlock?
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>>553983234
My dream draft:
>Dynamo 1 (stomp)
>Pocket 2 (cloak)
>Bebop 3 (hook)
>Paige 4 (cavalry)
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>>553983234
because statistically you'd get a dash+projectile+passive? Thanks Hotpoo!!!
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can't wait for someone to make a ror map on release
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I'm sitting here listening to UK rap, eating fish and frequently shitposting when it suddenly came to me in a flash of light... January 27th. It's coming.
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My ability draft?
Bebop bomb
Victor heal
Calico melee
Shiv ult
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>>553985356
what rap tho
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>>553985461
>Mina Teleport
>Lash Grapple
>Pocket Claok
>Ivy Flight

Yes, I buy Majestic Leap, Warp Stone, Magic Carpet, and Ethereal Shift as well.
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>>553985356
nah it's the 22nd because I have that day off and the world caters to me
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>>553985513
Mr. Keyz of course.
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>>553985461
for me?
enchanter's satchel
sanguine retreat
stone form
return to shadows
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what's a fun rts to play when not playing deadlock??
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>>553986582
Looks like a chink delete this image.
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How long must this go on
How long must this go on
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>>553986582
>rts
Play that one Terminator one if you haven't played it yet. It's like those junk Syria games from the same developers, but bigger, better, and much more polished. I'm honestly tired of all these "it's just like Starcraft/Red Alert/any old RTS of your choice" games
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>>553985461
Kelvin's Beam
Victor's 3
Victor's heal
Kelvin's Dome
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GIVE US A FUCKING DRAFT
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i can't figure out how to get csdk 12 to not crash when i try to load SFM. is there anyone who knows? i cannot enter the discord since i left the official deadlock and getting a reply for an invite never worked out. I just want to make animations
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>>553987356
considering how they're tuning matchmaking to try and make "balanced" team compositions, maybe they're trying to lean away from draft mode because it wastes people's time.
maybe they'll let you have a "ban" that guarantees that hero isn't in your game in the future?
i'm all for not having draft because i don't give a shit about avoiding whatever people think is overpowered at the time.
bad team comps exist and happen but so do bad drafts.
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>>553985461
>>553987068
Ivy Kudzu
McGinnis Heal
Victor Aura
Kelvin Dome
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What's the next goalpost for when the update will release?
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Ivy Kudzu
Geist Bomb
Vindicta's Stake
Shiv's Ult
Because fuck you, and fuck ability order.
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>>553988171
2027
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how to build paradox as a noob (arcanist i)?
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>>553988874
uninstall
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orniggers could be in this thread at this very moment
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>>553988103
WAIT, no, Paradox Bomb instead of Kudzu, with Echo Shard
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mcginnis turret
mcginnis heal
dynamo heal
kelvin dome
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>>553988874
The TAS build is pretty safe.
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>>553988874
gun
don't play her if you can't aim
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>>553985461
yamato grapple
viscous ult
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>>553985461
Sleep Dagger
Project Mind
Power Surge
Soul Exchange

sleep, teleport, swap life, and maybe a fun gun like Ivy's
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Are they going to let us swap guns before games start or are those weapon sections just for show?
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>>553990632
It's too early to say. The game is still in its early stages and they can add something like this even after release if they want to. Facets were added to Dota more than 10 years after its release.
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How great would McGinnis be if her gun could be pre-spun up?
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How great would Haze be if she could backstab people?
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How great would Yoshi be if he released the patch?
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>people are unironically excited for hotpoo's new overtuned retard character line up part deux
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>>553991774
he'd still be a nigger in my eyes tbqhwyfamalam
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>wow this meta sure is gun heavy I'm sure they'll correct this in the next patch
>next patch: gun buffs
>o-ok maybe it actually needed it but they went too far they'll tone it back next patch!
>next patch: gun buffs, spirit nerfs
y-yoshi??
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>>553985461
Goo punch
Seven's stun
Billy's blasted
Warden's ult
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>>553991230
She'd be more broken to lower ranks than she already is, but retard higher ranks would STILL claim she sucks and beg for buffs.
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>gun meta
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>>553992306
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>>553992306
remove haze from the game, problem solved
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>>553993032
>winrates from one rank only in the last 7 days from a spotty third party website
ah you got me real good there anon my bad another +20% damage to all guns!!

you faggots treat this site like its an infallible religious text and streamers as the apostles fuck off use your own words nigger
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>>553993560
You misspelled Infernus
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>>553993569
the highest two ranks in the game, ascendant and eternus
youre seriously going to argue that more players in a lobby go gun than spirit?
it sounds like you just hate the concept of a carry
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Haze should get the equalizer treatment
swap out her smgs for dual pistols
give the "more shots hit equals more damage" and "shoot at everyone in a circle ult" to a new character
her new ult is to do a shitton of damage to a stunned or other hard CC character to invade their mind or something, so it works with her knife
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>>553993032
don't try and talk to these people, they are permanent victims even when presented with facts that don't agree with them.
statlocker gets like 60% of games and the only bias is that every game has at least one person in it that cared to upload match data, which probably means it likely has a higher percentage of games of higher MMR matches.
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>>553993801
>youre seriously going to argue that more players in a lobby go gun than spirit?
I never even remotely implied that in my post you are illiterate do not reply to me if you cannot read thank you goodbye
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>>553986582
play aoe2 ladder and get exactly just as pissed off as when you're playing deadlock
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>>553994041
>it gets 60% of games which makes it 100% factual evidence
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>>553994519
you don't understand statistics at all, please stop embarassing yourself.
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easiest way to tell someone who is a complete retard who bases their opinions only off of streamers is to ask why does bullet resilient and metal skin have negative winrates in all ranks
>b-b-but you buy it reactively
>spirit resilience sits at 50% winrate
>b-b-b-but websites are inaccurate !!
>it is the most bought item high elo!!
>curse is frequently bought in high elo as well and bullet resilience NEVER
holy shit even in videogames you just cannot escape brainless pozzed sheep
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waste of time ass game but i keep playing cause i want to die irl so what does it matter
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>>553995212
>xdd nothing matters depressed ghoul moba player
how original
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>>553995212
literally me
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>>553994925
>why does bullet resilient and metal skin have negative winrates in all ranks
Because you are buying it to counter that your retard 0/17 teammate has just fed the fuck out of the enemy gun carry
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>>553994925
It feels like guns are so powerful that buying items that shield you from them is pointless because they don't give you much of an advantage. Like, you press metal skin against some gun Calico but you're instantly dead when it's over and you couldn't do much against it during that time because she just flew across your screen
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not going to listen to the same general that thought mina, drifter and billy were weak then decided two weeks later that they were gamebreakingly op after no changes
>inb4 "no one said this"
go check
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>>553979329
>thank god im russian
youre thankful that you dont have a toilet in your home? or do you simply have a death wish and want to get sent off into the trench lines to die of malaria?
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>>553995212
>try bebop first time
>die 15 times going for beam kills
>team plays like raving retards and loses all towers
>turn it around and win at 50 minutes because pub push magic
stop caring about rank and have fun
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>>553995678
Go back to the trenches Mykola
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>>553995665
>mina
This one in particular is because a lot of people started playing the game exclusively because of her design, sucked at it, and concluded that the character is weak
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>>553995678
>you dont have a toilet in your home?
>malaria
what kinda /pol/ fanfics are you reading?
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>>553976101
it unironically did though
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>>553995925
Nope
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>>553993838
Her ult already works with her knife.
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>yoshi comes online
>everyone goes fucking feral

lmao
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>>553996213
you are essentially the same people but ukraine existed first as the kyivan rus 300 years before what would become modern russia (moscow), for the simple fact that it's closer to europe so it became the civilized center for the east slavs first
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>>553996702
UPDATE TOMORROW
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millions of cultists bought and this stupid shit still doesn't have a buff duration icon
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>>553997194
i do think hes gonna post when well get the updatw tomorrow
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>>553997227
>bought
???
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>>553994925
>bullet res
>only helps against 2 enemy heroes who have to chase you and are restricted by damage falloff
>spirit res
>protects against burst that goes on cd if it doesnt kill you, meaning you survive
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power surge needs to have bonus damage on headshots
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>>553997271
last time he did it like a single day before the update actually came out on a weekend
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>>553997708
wrong
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>>553997808
you are a literal brown gorilla nigger retard
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did yoshi share what brand of buttplug he's using?
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>kill both lane opponents
>my goyimcattle laner runs off do to boxes because a streamer told him to
How do I rank down? This is hell.
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>>553998420
depends on where the wave is to be honest. It might be optimal to freeze depending.
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>>553997053
There are three things
Firstly, there is no direct connection between Kievan Rus and Ukraine. I see that you deny that Novgorod and Ladoga were also Russia, even though they have far more reasons to be considered as such than Ukraine which was completely destroyed and filled with other people and cultures several times. Cossacks are literally descendants of Mongols who settled in the Ukrainian steppes and mixed with the local population. While the other part of modern Ukraine is just Poles who came there during Polish rule
Secondly, geographically, Kievan Rus has absolutely nothing in common with Ukraine beyond Kiev and Lvov, which is entirely a Polish city. The closest to Rus in terms of territory is Belarus.
And finally, Kiev was completely irrelevant until Rurik arrived kiled the local government and turned Kiev into a new capital.
And all this stuff about Russia not starting until Moscow is just stupid. Moscow was literally created by one of the Princes of Vladimir. It's like saying that Germany didn't start until the end of the 19th century because they literally had no capital and brothers were killing each other all the time.
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>Abrams charge
>bepop bomb
>victor aura
>dynamo ult
Aids xD
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I suck at mina because

I

CAN'T

AIM
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>>553998025
18th was a monday
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here's your 32 minute paige bro say something nice
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>>553999794
we are talking about when he announced it'd be coming not when it came out
guess which day comes before monday
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>>554000121
we already know a few devs work through the weekends, its possible
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>>553999892
hang all support troons
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>>554000275
But xhe gave you 200 HP!!!
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>>554000503
>gets outdone in healing by abrams/victor
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>>553998303
he uses a lovense actually, every time you leave a reaction to one of his posts it goes off
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>>553995765
sorry, wrong ethnic group

>>553995920
ah, right, sorry. i forgot the russoids cultivate aids instead
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>>553999892
>most assists
>10
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turns out Yamato's head is culturally respectful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFmxX2ASfos
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>new characters come out
>i just learn how to shoot them as wraith
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>>554004498
gl hitting that gay barn owl the size of a protozoa
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In going fucking stir crazy
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>>553974994
That's like saying "Texas doesn't exist in our timeline". It obviously does, but only as a state, not a country.
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>>554005043
It is somewhat incorrect to use US state as an example as it has stable borders and has consistently existed as part of the US, which simply cannot be said about Ukraine which has constantly changed both its borders and masters
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>>554005043
what kind of inbred analogy is this holy shit
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>>554005043
did finland, or hungary, or germany for that matter exist in our timeline before 20th century?
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I really wonder how Fencer is going to play. I'll be a bit disappointed if he doesn't have a built-in counterspell like how Victor has a built in debuff remover.
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>he doesn't wedge lane creeps into corners as bebop to make pseudo wards
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>>554007160
>finland
Formed into a semblance of a country in the 13th century
>hungary
10th century
>germany
Around the 5th century I think
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>>554007473
i expect it's going to be annoying as fuck to play against.
probably going to be less fun than playing against mina.
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>winstreaking as Seven
>game decides it's time for my forced 50
>seeker VI Paige as my lane partner
>Phantom IV Abrams as lane opponent
genuinely what the fuck, why is that even possible?
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Are we really not getting "melee" weapons? I get that you need a ranged option, but why would you give me a gimped unusable gun over a melee with a ranged alt attack?
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>>554008565
Why are you asking this question as if anyone here knows any more than you do?
If you care enough go make a post on the forums where it'll have an infinitesimal chance of influencing the game.
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>>554008994
>Why are you asking this question
to confirm that I'm not the only one who cares enough about the topic?
this too is a deadlock forum, isn't it?
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>>554008565
the way lane phase is designed any hero that just has a melee weapon would just get zoned off the wave forever.
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>>554009082
no this is where you post team bunga me unga screenshots and talk about jerking off to abrams paige pocket geist whatever
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>>554009249
Not if you make the melee hero overtuned!
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>>554009082
Yes it's a deadlock forum, but THE deadlock forum has devs actively reading it to gauge community response and steal ideas.
If you legitimately want something like this ingame you'd be better served by putting your ideas somewhere they might see use instead of endlessly rehashing the same impotent begging routine here.
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>>554008565
doesnt seem like it, they made their autistic parrying system and seem stubborn to never change it despite it making the game shit to play

MOBAs NEEEEEEEEEED melee heroes the genre just does not work without cat and mouse of kiting melee it's such a shit game design
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>>554009667
what's wrong with the parry system other than desync?
pretty much every game has a quickmelee
except now it's useful for movement, has more thought and risk compared to something like halo or marvel rivals where you use it when out of ammo
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>>554009667
>MOBAs NEEEEEEEEEED melee heroes the genre just does not work without cat and mouse of kiting melee it's such a shit game design
What a retarded statement lol
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>>554009845
well it removes the ability for melee to exist normally which is the big one
it's just too random, high variance tool that makes laning a coinflip sometimes
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Driftrer gun is melee
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Patch in 5
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>>553993032
i see gun calico all the time
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>>554010030
no what it does is add skill to melee, you need to bait out parries and not just mash heavy melee. if you want to only melee you should probably just play something else that requires less skill and braincells where you can just spam m1 because that all melee is almost every other shooter
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>>553992024
yes this is me,
I think vyper is the most fun character ever made in a shooter.
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>>554011339
Vyper is probably going to get some sort of rework because I honestly can't imagine theyre happy with how lane dominant she is.
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>>554011658
They are perfectly fine with having heroes that dominate lane phase. Paradox/Holliday/Yamato still exist and Vyper is not as good as those at lane.
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stamina mastery is so much fucking fun bros
i feel legitmately uncatchable with this shit
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>>554012063
Wasting a slot because your character has two stamina isn't fun.
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>>554011250
And yet dota 2 has a bunch of melee characters and they dont all play the same whatsoever
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>>554011718
Vypers laning is just so much better than any of those heroes since she has an execute
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>>554011658
>>554011718
Never have I entered a lane and thought “oh no, I’m against vyper”

Vyper also has some terrible match ups in lane too: lash, dynamo, Vindicta and so on
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Do you guys think Ivy can win in 2027 if Deadlock releases that year?
>>553996702
Didn't he specifically say he'd give a few days of heads up before the update goes live anyway ?
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>>554012208
melee in dota is not comparable to melee in deadlock. It's more like making heroes manaless which dota does not do (they all have mana pools even if some barely use theirs) giving someone no gun w2means they interact differently with every item in the game which is basically riot balancing so no
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>>554012563
>>554012165
whoops wrong post
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>>554012556
The fuck is this list? That’s not Queen /v/
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>>554012885
>>554012885
Yes, that's the wife of the year awards, run by me myself and I (jury: me myself and I).
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dead game
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Today is the day the Highguard sponsored streams drop. Will /we/ be watching?
t. insider
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>>554011250
>>554012563
Overwatch 2 released a good melee character recently, vendetta
Marvel rivals has a bunch of melee characters too that all play differently

Yes deadlock's items would make no sense but that's not my problem. They wasted so much time and money on this dogshit system that will clearly never work. All the heroes ALREADY feel like they play the same. Billy/calico/drifters melee abilities all feel literally identical. How does this system have any longevitiy? It seems so fucking bad and pointless I dont get how they dont see it. It's just sunk cost fallacy or their boss is an arrogant douche that nobody wants to challenge over these terrible ieas
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>>554014308
I believe in Icefrog, Hoodwink r34 hoarder and genius inventor of the ASSFAGGOTS genre.
>>554014070
>secure boot required
shan't
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Valve already made the melee only play style in a sea of gun users fun almost two decades ago. We just need to port it over instead of yet another dota garbage.
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Just give a melee hero a weak altfire thats used exclusively for soul cs
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>>554015738
There would also need to be a reason to use Q melees rather than M1 melees.
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let's say the devs somehow achieve a perfect or near-perfect 50.0% winrate on all heroes. What changes and how badly does Yoshi ruin it?
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>>554015382
>worst char in his own game
>fun
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>>554016235
they would have to be completely homogenized
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>>554015738
>just make my melee hero a gun hero
every time
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I feel like maining Lash is making me worse at the game.
I'm in Oracle right now, and I mostly play Lash for the hit and run playstyle, the fact that he's incredibly slippery makes it easy to get out of most situation, the issue is, when I play other characters... it feels like I have no clue how to get out of said tricky situations, if I get jumped by two guys, I die, and I don't know how to fix it.
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>>554016927
just do the same way as you would with lash if you didn't have any charges on grapple
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>>554016927
play sheriff lash
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>>554017103
die?
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>>554017103
I always have charges on grapple to get out easily though
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>9am in the fucking morning
>already want to play Deadlock
what do?
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>>554018247
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>7 game win streak over last 2 days
>7 game losing streak tonight after midnight
why do I play after midnight
I gotta treat this game like a gremlin
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>>554019005
I make a rule for myself that if I lose two games in a row I have to get off for at least an hour, mainly because I wanna let the matchmaking sort itself out
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win or lose, doesn't matter as long as you had fun
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Every time someone calls troopers "creeps" or "minions", or guardians "towers", Yoshi delays the update one more day.
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>>554020278
I'll deal with the minions!
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>small retards
>big retards
>even bigger retards
>twin retards
>retard beam station
>floating retard
>ball retard
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are they going to bring back teleporters?
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>get home from work super excited for deadlock
>boot up and start looking for game
>computer legit fucking dies and will not restart at fucking all
>finally it turns back on
>hit play
>pic related
im going to fucking kill someone this is fucking bullshit
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>>554022157
Download WhoCrashed and see what happened.
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>>554022157
>>computer legit fucking dies and will not restart at fucking all
power supply failure?
maybe your flat went too cold while you were out?
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>>554012563
Actually Huskar has no mana pool at all now. Only uses hp to cast spells.
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>>554014308
>>554012563

Why wouldn't items work on melee characters?
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>>554023138
Express Shot?
Split Shot?
Ammo capacity items?
Ammo reload items?
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>>554015897
Movement like it's currently used, otherwise just make the Q punch the one with the long distance hit
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>>554015738
No. Instead make the melee hero have a unique passive that will make the orb gravitate toward the melee hero, and to deny it you have to melee it. Otherwise the melee hero will just melee the orb to take it
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>>554023257
Assuming the hypotethical hero has the cs punch discussed before:
>hits twice in the first punch
>multi punch barrage like my animuz
>actually might be unusable, unbuyable much like extra charges items are on certain characters
>faster time in between the determined swings (see something like the one-two combo thing has in rivals, you'd get less off time but punches would still come out at the same speed)
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Hear me out:
5 lanes 8 players
Massive map like an actual city
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>>554005307
Didn't Texas used to me part of Mexico?
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>>554012556
Why is Noelle spelled with a Russian ё? That reads "Nojolle".
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>>554023678
deadlock battlefield mode when
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>>554023668
You'd have to tweak many of them to be functionally completely different than when any other hero buys them. And since they function differently they also still need to be about on par in terms of cost efficiency too compared to their base function.
I doubt Valve is going to do that, at least any time soon in Deadlocks life
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The aram mode sounds like trash, why don't they just make a tdm/dm/ctf mode. I'd say even a bomb mode like in cs or some arena shooters would work. Just remove the items and keep the movement system.
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>>554024523
CTF is consistently the worst game mode in any shooter. 95% of the people who play it just play it like its a death match anyway.
KotH could be good, maybe like domination mode like in UT
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>>554024657
>says CTF is the worst mode in any shooter while naming UT the CTF game

holy fucking onions faggot.
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>>554024712
CTF sucks and wasn't the best mode in UT.
Assault was the best mode :) Bombing Run is way more fun too
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>>554024832
CTF was literally the main played mode in UT99 faggot.
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>>554024873
So? It sucked. People mostly played it like Team DM anyway
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>>554024523
Step by step bro.
Start with a more casual MOBA mode.
Then slowly peel away the MOBA for even more casual modes.
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announcement today
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THE ANNOUNCEMENT JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
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>>554023782
I used the French spelling, I'll fix that...
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>>554020476
thats anti-golem speak anon
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>playing wraith
>doing alright but enemy victor is giga fed that the game is practically over
>billy getting ganked by Drifter and Victor I come over to help but he's already did before I'm even close enough to ult
>"yeah okay wraith save your ult I guess"
>use it on abrams I'm 1v1ing later
>"wow just use it on person okay then" (i don't have it fully upgraded)
I swear someone will die near you and blame you of the rest of the game
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>>554026503
should've ganked his jungle
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>>554022157
ram or power supply issue maybe but if it's ram then yeah it's over for you
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>Highguard releases the 26th
The Deadlock update is ACTUALLY going to drop on its release day holy shit, it wasn't a meme
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>>554026503
wraith is the damned if you do damned if you dont m1gger
not ganky enough to just autopilot and work like haze
no midboss urn aoe ult like infernus

you will get blamed for not taking every chance to push walker minute 11-16 when you need to farm up still
you will then get blamed for being an afk farmer if you are desperate to be the only one within 5k of the average of the enemy team by the end of the game

she is genuinely the most selfish character carry outside of victor in terms of limit testing and self decision and thats why i love them both
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Hey guys Yoshi here.
Just dropping to announce, that the announcement for the new patch needs to be delayed until March. Thankyou for your understanding and thankyou for playing Deadlock.
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hear me out:
massive asymmetrical map
no teams but you can pick a job
you roleplay through the map as gundealer, cop, criminal, hobo
people just log in and play a match that never ends
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do any of the new heroes have a support style kit like paige, from what is known?
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>>554029901
Sounds a bit like the original Alterac Valley bg in WoW. Could be fun, how do you deal with progression though? It wouldn't take that long for an individual to be power capped in theory though and then what? You just stomp people who just joined and have no souls?
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>>554029901
mina will suck this cock CLEAN
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>>554030116
yeah Rem is for healsluts who don't even want to use WASD
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>>554030116
Rem is supposed to ride on allies and give them shields and has a big crowd control ultimate
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>>554030152
no rdm!
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>>554029901
>ADMIN TO ME
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>>554030152
you buy cars and socially climbing being one of the rich guys
inevitably the power will go to your head and will throw a fit if things dont go your way in roleplay.
this is also a reference to darkrp btw
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>>554029901
>fujos ERPing as drifter and doorman in a room somewhere
>TRAVELING
>fill the room with scarabs while shouting FORTY JIN
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>>554030291
>Rem is supposed to ride on allies
uuuh, I thought this game was 13+
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>>554012164
maybe one day you will understand young seeker
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why does the matchmaking give me people with 7 hours on the game while the enemies are superduper coordinated
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>>554012164
What if your character has 2 stamina but high stamina regen?
What if your character also had a teleport i-frame ability too!
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>>554030643
kinooooo
griefing will always be the best part of darkrp
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>>554031426
Get your mind out of the gutter, Shiv!
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>people sell silver as a proper transformation hero
>she ends up being another d.va/hulk where there's only really one form and the other one might as well not really exist (you can't even change between the two you're just forced into the other when low on hp)

how sad would that be
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>>554030203
RIGHT NOW! YES YEEEES!!!
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>>554024081
Not really, the effect is still the "same", just applied to a normal punch. Split shot would extend the hitbox of the punch, express shot would apply the punch twice, reload would have basically the same effect as it does on gun, lowering the "cd" between your constant burst of damage. It's not really as hard as you're making it sound, it'd really only become so if you decided to go and actually properly depict these items in a cool way (WHICH SHOULD BE THE STANDARD ALREADY BTW)
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>>554033508
It muddies the water and splits resources with balancing. Valve wouldnt consider doing it for years at least.
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>>554033686
do you have any idea just how fucking STUPID convoluted dota balance gets? we already have way more retarded balance decisions currently like characters having things like melee and speed scale off spirit for no reason whatsoever
nevermind that you keep saying it muddies the water when in reality it's just treating the melee as a gun, something they should've done with DRIFTER already
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>>554033910
Dota 2 didn't start really rocking the boat compared to dota 1 for many years anon. I was there
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>>554034153
all i'm saying is that the excuse for not doing full melee being full balance is obvious bullshit and the excuse for it being too complicated even more so
i've said it before but if the only reason is truly lane phase holding character design back then that's the stupidest possible reason they could ever have
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As a new player, I have difficulty parsing through what I'm seeing on the mini-map to determine where I should be. If I see three-four on Blue, should I join them and push, or should I spend time farming instead? Or should I split push depending on the location of where the other lanes are? How do you determine after laning phase where the best place to be on the map is? The pace of the matches are generally so break neck it feels like you have to make decisions in a microsecond.
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>>554035220
It Depends™
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>>554035220
depends on your hero, farm, creep and enemy positions really
if youre paige and youre afk farming youre doing it wrong, if youre infernus and 5k behind everyone else too
lanes should never push against your walkers for free, youre losing out on farm and health on objectives but if your team is all mid fighting against enemies taking rejuv then you should ofc prio your team
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>>554035220
If you are a carry you should mostly farm and splitpush, only join fights that happen near you generally, and usually with the intention of cleaning them up.
If you are playing a an assassin you should be looking to gank enemy carries in their jungle/side lanes and then steal their camps or joining team fights if the enemy is on your side of the map.
Broolers are mostly trying to draw enemy attention by playing agressive on lanes.
Supports role is a bit more vague, generally you want to be providing utility to teamfights, helping with ganks, stealing enemy farm and facilitating urn runs
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>>554035220
IMA KEEP IT SIMPLE FOR YA
IF YOU HAVE TROPHY COLLECTOR, YOU BRAWL
IF YOU DO NOT, YOU SPLITPOOSH
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>>554036260
Only exception is if you're Lash, you always brawl in that case
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>>554035220
A lot of it depends if you're playing a carry or a more team fighting hero like Billy.
I main Victor so I just selfishly splitpush/powerfarm until I hit my powerspike but sometimes you *do* need to help.
But for Billy you need to try to actively play around your ult and teamfight whenever its up
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>>554033508
We already got this with drifter you just want drifter with a 2m attack instead of 20m. Calico plays like that and she's annoying as fuck to deal with since she gets so close to you that it's difficult to aim at her.
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>>554035616
>>554035676
>>554035730
>>554036260
>>554037149
Got it, thanks for the information. It depends and get more experience. The brawlers seem obvious, but this game seems more role agnostic than other MOBAs I have played. Are carries ones with on hit effects? Billy and Victor are obvious get in close characters, Paige and Ivy are more support, but I've seen a decent amount of all 4 just take over the game with damage.
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>>554038695
A carry can be best summed up as a late game scaler. So a hero that becomes a giga god once they hit the 40k+ soul threshold.
Victor/Wraith are good examples of this. Victor can straight up 1 v 4 certain fights once he hits his late game powerspike but is kinda useless before then.
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>>554038695
>Are carries ones with on hit effects?
no, carries are heroes that scale so well that they can "carry" their team by themselves given enough resources
the most powerful carry right now (as in, biggest power spike late) is probably victor who isn't even a gun hero but can still take down 3-5 players before going down himself
you can carry with "any" hero but some are way better at it than others, like soul for soul they scale stats better, or they can get souls more efficiently, or they struggle less on mid-game/lane
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>>554033209
>Kled
>Gnar
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>spend the whole game farming as Victor
>Haze carries us to victory anyways
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>>554036856
Ever since I stopped taking trophy on lash I've been having way more success. Realistically the only stat you're getting use out of is ability range and the pittance of bonus hp. It barely covers the cost and eats into my slots too much.
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>>554040426
dream job
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>>554027646
that would be funny but knowing valve they would drop it monday next week or today
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Why are so many of the "pro" Deadlock players 30-40 years old? Your time has passed old man, stop crying over a video game and go get a job.
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>>554042424
a Seattle based company dropping anything on MLK day? Yeah right lmao
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>>554042505
can you name 1?
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>>553958671
>2025
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>>554042505
because this is dota 3 (original came out when we were in highschool)

You'll understand when you're older
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>>554042656
Metro is 42.
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>>554042505
Imagine being 15, and realizing that a 40 year old man is better at this game than you...
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>>554042505
kids these days don't play vidya (especially one as convoluted as deadlock)
they just doomscroll ai cat videos on reels for 8 hours instead.
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>>554042656
buds
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>>554042771
hes old but not that old, also when i hear "pro" i think of someone who actually plays tourneys instead of abusing m1 carries in pubs and get shit on when playing against actual good players
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>>554042692
No this is Team Fortress Gaiden.
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>>554042917
all they have to do is have one sip of something with caffeine and would be running laps around that geezer
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>>554042917
All the good players are young though.
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>>554042424
"Monday next week" in that scenario would be February, and Yoshi already said the patch is coming this month. There's a high likelihood it's actually dropping the same day as Highguard kek.
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>>554042942
pretty sad if true, the few things i've seen about him makes him look like a bigger manchild than metro
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I'm a 40 year old man.
I have a 110ms reaction time.
When I was 20 it was 150ms.
I'm getting faster and stronger with age.
The future is old men, neph.
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We get a Poker Night 3 with deadlock characters
Who do you choose to be in?
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>>554043879
gubami
dynamo
lash
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>>554043826
Stop larping, nobody likes delusional old men that still play video games.
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>>554043962
My wife does.
We play this and helldivers 2 together.
My bench, deadlift, curl, and squat are all better than they were when I was in my 20s too.
All I had to do was give up "bread".
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>>554043879
Lash and if possible vyper.
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>>553979878
Ivy's ass is not that huge
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>>554043879
Lash
Guybrush Threepwood
Trevor Philips
Master Shake
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>Silver might be exactly like greymane
Does that mean I can also get Leoric?
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>fall from phantom 3 to Oracle 5 doing Ornaments
>now that I'm done I can't seem to escape
Even spamming Victor games isn't working. Is it over?
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>>554045785
Only if I get Fenix to globally combo Planet Cracker with your Entomb
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>>554043879
Vyper Viscous Lash Drifter
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>>554036260
I never buy trophy collector on page though
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>>554043879
lash would be my ideal pick but i feel like they'd pick abrams and wraith
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>>554042552
didn't know about this because I'm not a burger
but he announced last patch was coming soon on sunday, so saturday announcement with tuesday release is possible
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PATCH ANNOUNCEMENT JUST DROPPED IN DISCORD
PREPARE YOU BUTTS
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>>553927002
Hello, I've been meaning to try this, but haven't gotten around to it due to the whole "man on the inside" deal. Your help in getting myself and my own friends on the servers would be appreciated.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198095781880/
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>>554048701
made me look, die
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>>554045785
>Silver might be exactly like greymane
on one hand i like that idea because greymane was fun
on the other we have enough carries
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>>554027646
Kek that would be funny but even if it's a playtest they would avoid this.
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>>554037591
you can literally go back two posts into that reply thread and see that i'm saying you should get something like the thing in marvel rivals and that drifter is NOT a true melee hero you dingdong
there's a very big difference between "has a short ranged gun" and "melee only character", having an ability that's a big medium range burst does not make a character have to reload, be aware of potential parries, have to truly close the gap, etc. calico plays more like a ground based lash than anything reseembling a true melee hero
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>>554049384
>Implying Volvo gives a shit
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Which item do you personally feel is overrated?
for me its Mystic Shot. Any build that has it I end up skipping it in favor of almost anything else. In theory it should be good damage but as soon as you miss even one shot it's value becomes shit.
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>>554050974
I think its fine on Shiv since you aren't building that many gun items anyway but for the most part I agree
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how do I play this game with dick only?
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icefrog/yoshi is ALWAYS watching
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>>554049428
a true melee hero would ignore a third of the items
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>>554050974
It's good for spirit brawlers who get up close during their standard combo. Like Lash or Shiv.
It's hard to miss when you are up in their face and they are stunned
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>>554030643
>He doesn't know that Mirage/drifter is latter's second most popular ship
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How do you even know about shipshit?
We can't have that many actual fujos playing the game.
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how about a really smart dinosaur
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>>554051560
one or two is not a third you disingenous little shit
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Yoshi, can we collab with Mario Bros The Movie?
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>>554052041
he's there to drive doorman away and take driftie for himself
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>>554051542
took me a long minute trying to figure out what he meant by tavern until it clicked just how old this post is. also how come every day the captcha gets worse like what the fuck is this, someone please shoot hiro into orbit already
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>>554051542
what's that image about
don't give me hope by telling me they reverted techies to his pre rework status
please
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>>554045785
only if I get abathug the meme slug, deathwing and chogall
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>>554052975
It's a post from dota 1 days anon
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>>554052701
if you want to play melee heroes so bad go play smite
deadlock isn't going to bend all it's mechanics for a new class of hero, at best you're getting maybe 2 and then you'll complain you can't play them every match or they're too samey
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>>554052971
>Complaining about the new captcha
You are failing an IQ test.
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>>554043879
Everyone is picking Lash and I will do so as well. He's really the most charismatic face of the game to me imo
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>>554053437
Its the fact that it changes every other day, especially since this new one doesn't always include the square shape you need to get past the captcha. This workaround to mods doing their job is so retarded, can you honestly tell me doing three of them instead of just one is absolutely necessary to increasing posting quality?
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>>554052826
you will get more collabs with MH and one with Smiling Friends and like it
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Add a WW2 Nazi hero
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>>554053362
don't you ever get tired of creating made up scenarios in your head for you to get mad at? seriously who the fuck has ever complained about not being able to one trick in deadlock of all games? why would i complain about two heroes playing the same when it's an unique style? who even said it has to be a class of hero, on a game that DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THEM?

nigga maybe you should try teching that fucking throw for once in your life instead of blaming the game
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>>554054346
This game does have hero classes, retardbro
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>>554054314
ww1 didn't happen in deadcock let alone ww2
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>>554054730
Where is this lore located? I don't remember any mentions of ww1 from when i went through the hero bios.
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>>554054730
He came from an alternate plane of existence, simple fix bro
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>>554054730
wasnt there some human ixian war? add a veteran from that conflict
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>>554054346
don't you ever get tired of like, begging for a worse version of billy to satisfy your urge of playing a different game?
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>>554054902
it was on the wiki
RIP
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>>554054970
There are 100% Human on Ixian warcrimes being done, might be heavily linked to Fencer's backstory
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Why do builds even have a "Late Game" section when most of my games at high elo never go above 30 minutes
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>>554056468
Because games at truly high elo can go past 30 minutes
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>>553938437
They’re going to add mo as a playable character and krill as back bling
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>>554056725
Only if both team are perfectly evenly match really
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Next patch would be so much more exciting if leakers didn't spoil 90 percent of what's in it.
Kill all leakers.
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I just leaked, tehe~
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>>554054902
haze's (and wrecker's) backstories say how no big earthen wars happen anymore since everyone just surveills each other, cold war-style
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>>554056765
>mo as a playable character and krill as back bling
knowing valve and artstyle deterioration, with some cosmetics mo will turn into a werewolf and krill is going to be model swapped into a boombox
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Respawn timer should scale with the soul amount of the player who you just died and not with global timer.
Killing a fed wraith with 20k souls should be more rewarded than killing the bebop with 10k souls who kept feeding the whole game.
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>>554057203
For me the excitement of waiting for the patch and wondering about how exactly the new heroes are going to play and such is part of the enjoyment. So I don't mind at all. Maybe it'd be different if they actually leaked everything accurately.
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The big problem is everyone except venator and graves looks stupid gay and lame and rem faggots should kill themselves
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>>554058013
Dotautists get really angry when you suggest tweaking the respawn timer.
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>>554056468
you're supposed to know how to have 45k at 30 minutes at that point
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>>554058219
Pretty sure dotas respawn timers are linked to hero level and/or networth already though with extra added if you die after buying back.
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>>554058514
where's the cock
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>>554058679
In your mouth.
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>>554058724
god that's so based
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>>554058514
where's the pubes
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>>554059160
In your mouth.
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>>554059286
that's not how it works you mongrel
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death to all futafags
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>play dynamo
>be aggressive
>stomp
>stomp
>stomp
>blackhole
>stomp
>win
jesus christ, it's so easy
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>>554059551
This, but furfags.
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>>554054730
Add a nazi hero without WW2
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>>554052971
>here is your captcha bro
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>>554060182
or better yet, add Charlie Chaplin
just that, a Charlie Chaplin with a gun and a cane and a silly mustache
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yeah lets add ed the talking horse and the three fucking stooges too!

we dont need anymore fucking clown heroes with JOBS or historical figures

you lack imagination
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>patch drops
>it's a new map
>it's 2 lanes
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shitting dick nipples
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>>554061209
I don't know how you'd do it, but a classic slapstick hero would be amazing.
Chaplin, Keaton, Stooges, Marx Bros kinda stuff distilled into a deadlock hero.
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>>554061657
>has a rocket launcher ability that force ragdolls enemies in funny ways
valve hire me
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>>554061446
>fucking clown heroes with JOBS
why can't we have a hobo hero with no special abilities AND no job?
he can beat everyone up with his bad breath and mild language!
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>>554061446
>yeah lets add ed the talking horse
I mean Billy isn't far from that
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why does crayon talk like that
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Trophy Collector :

>requires you to be active around the map
>has to gank
>risk dying by participating in so many fights
>item is giga nerfed

Cultist Sacrifice :

>increased damage to mobs so farming is easier
>generates souls for free so pays itself back quickly
>gives stats
>can spend your whole life in jungle so risk free
>never nerfed

explain
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>>554063206
BROOLING BAD
JOONGLE GOOD
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>>554063071
why don't you ask him in his chat instead of here?
retard
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>>554061482
ivy when they're not making bed breaking sex right now
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How long until Bebop's back in the time-out corner?
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>>554064118
>be holliday
>go into a tiny cramped tunnel
omega retard
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>>554064323
>raping holliday's tiny cramped tunnel in a tiny cramped tunnel
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>>554059160
Vampires don’t have pubes doe
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>>554066551
Vampires have the hair they have when they are turned into vampires.
Mina may have been clean shaven at the time, but I'd be putting my money on a landing strip
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announcement today?
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>>554067494
lol
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How is this for a Drifter build?
>Add Backstabber
No, I can't make it proc enough to justify its cost.
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>>554067635
>No, I can't make it proc enough to justify its cost.
What the fuck, HOW? He literally has an ability that teleports you behind people??
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>>554067494
Zero but we might get a
>We strongly believe we can release it sometime next week
if we're lucky.
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>>554067635
replace cooldown with superior duration, you don't really need shadow weave either
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>>554067494
19th announcement 22nd release
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Update Today????
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>>554068256
there's only two weeks left so another nonspecific soon is worthless
saturday is their designated testing day so I can see them announcing a midweek release on sunday if it goes well
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>>554067635
ID?
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>>554068636
Valve doesn't work on MLK day.
Sorry anon.
It's gonna be the 31st
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>>554069357
It's called devilish.
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>>554055086
retardkun abrams is already in the game
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>>554069450
Ok thanks.
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>>554069429
doesnt take going to work to send a discord message
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which character should be removed
which herolab character should be brought back
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>>554069936
Billy
Trapper
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>>554069660
>Corpos
>Not writing out a business expense whenever they can.
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>>554069936
>which character should be removed
Vindicta

>which herolab character should be brought back
Rutger
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>>554069936
sinclair

fathom
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>>554070136
rutger was never a hero lab character
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>>554067635
>has ability that teleprots you behind people
>can't proc the item that does damage when you hit people from behind

bruh
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>>554069936
calico
calico
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>>554070503
this
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>>554069936
>removed
calico
>brought back
boho
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>>554070503
I do not want 5 turrets in base over the entrance ever again
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>>554069936
calico(nigger)
calico(furry)
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>>554069429
I didn't know burgers had a day off for MLK day. If I was American I would go out that day and look for black girlfriend. For reparations.
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>>554069936
>which character should be removed
calico
>which herolab character should be brought back
trapper
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>haven't played since christmas
>decided to play holiday for fun
>5 games in a row i get initiate 4-6 lobbies
>drifter and haze smurfs in all games
>everyone else is fucking clueless
what the fuck is going on? i never had this bad mm, but it's kinda funny too tho
lack of players?
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>>554071658
>play in initiate
>wonder why people are stupid
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all our players are bots
this general too
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>>554071795
i'm archon 6
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>>554071658
Basically anyone in Ascendant+ is getting 10 minute long queue timers. So everyone is smurfing. It's what I'm doing since no patch and I'm bored so stomping on clueless new plaers/bad players is fun. No patch = time to smurf.
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>>554069936
I want Boho and Raven to come back. I don't care about any of the other labs characters.
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>>554072024
raven was fucking shit
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where's this image with "no patch?" caption
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If your team somehow loses a walker minute 10 there's legit no way to come back from that
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>>554073160
thats a weak bitch mentality, ive had games where the walker was down before 10 minutes and still won
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>>554073160
trueish
if that happens i hop on mic demanding the lane to myself and then hold wave clash behind the halfway point two or three times
that being said the 1500 secured souls after a minute and half of them getting 3k makes it suck
it basically forces your team to exist in that jungle to not lose the rest of the farm
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>>554073160
>your walker is down
>most of enemy team doesn't care
>they go to jungle and struggle to push your other t1 for another 10 minutes
>losing walker made 0 difference
doshigatai
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>Yamato keeps running urn when she shouldn't
>tell her to fight in the shop
I love infuser
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>>554074792
i can't tell who the fuck you're fighting because the bags are too big
WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO DO *THREE* CAPTCHAS
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>>554075228
Yeah... I like this mod but it makes playing Victor so awful when you're running around with a lot of souls because it actually gets infront of your crosshair.
>V*r*f*c*t**n n*t r*q**r*d
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So, perma farming is broken and I'm pretty sure 90% of people despise it. How do we fix it?
>Hurr, it's a Moba, that's how the game works, you can't change how a Moba works.
Maybe if these idiots could give a real reason why a bad mechanic should stay, people would be inclined to listen to them
My idea: Simply make the benefits drop off exponentially the further ahead you are.
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>>554075228
>WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO DO *THREE* CAPTCHAS
Because you're a filthy mobilefag
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>>554075972
no way infuser doesn't get dumpstered this update
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honestly they should just make it so midboss is impossible to solo, make him immune unless 2 people are in range or something
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>>554043879
>no one said wraith
really?
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>>554077701
I think everyone assumes she would be the dealer which is rational.
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>>554076001
have a damage character and a grabber character go kill them while alone in the jungle, then run away before the rest of team shows up
unfortunately this strategy takes teamwork
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>>554076001
whatever you posted is retarded, kill yourself
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>>554076001
its not broken and its not even abusable if you are playing on a good team bc most the camps will always be down, you get most souls from lane farm
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where da fuck is my patch yoshi....
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>>554078948
JUST ONE MORE WEEK ARTHUR
HAVE SOME GODDAMN FAITH ARTHUR
this shit is gonna get delayed to feb isn't it
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>>554045785
only if i get probius
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>>554079103
>patch delayed to my birthday
see you gays in late-feb
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It's up!
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At least the update is going to be big.
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i don't care that her model looks like shit and POWA SURASHU slashes my fps for a second, the worst part of yamato is how unsatisfying her basic attacks sound and feel. zero impact
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>>554078126
and when you do this one of the following happens
>the other hypercarry gets to farm on the other side of the map no problem so you lose anyway
>they take an objective for free and then have way more map control so when the carry respawns they have more map to farm
>more of their team just rotates to back up the 2v1 because you're in their side of the map so it takes them 10s and then they rape you.

if you're at the point you can deathball in the enemy jungle you've already won. this is the end result of nerfing movespeed while keeping all the map changes to cuck movement, you can't be everywhere at once so if you go up against vic + haze + seven or something the game is just over if you don't push patron sub 25m
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>>554074792
>>554075972
>can just stand in Haze or warden ult
cool hero
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>>554078126
wow, an impossible strategy that doesn't even fix that innate problem of farming itself
>>554078839
>a Wraith who's 20k ahead is not broken
my change isn't exclusive to jungle creeps by the way
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>>554080623
Haze Ult, yeah, insane
Warden Ult? Lol. Lmao even. Most people can stand in Warden ult. Unless you're building for it, it barely does crap
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>>554080951
Morso since 90% of people are building gun warden these days. Its good of course but you're not getting full value out of your ult as a result.
Now a proper spirit warden on the other hand? That shit is scary once they stack duration + arcan surge.
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>>554081474
I kind of want to do spirit warden now. what's some good set ups for it?
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>>554079808
>worst part is how unsatisfying her basic attacks sound and feel
are we playing the same character?
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one more week and alien yamato is gone forever...
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>>554084298
nah, that leaked redesign if real was ugly im sure they are still working on it
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I liked the leaked Yamato face and hat (pretty sure it was a fake leak though) the rest of the outfit could use some work but other than that it looked great
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>>554081951
Its been so long out of meta that I really, really need to create my own but the basics are
>Merc mag
>Cooldown
>Duration
>Arcane Surge
>Lightning Scroll
>Majestic Leap or Warp Crystal, choose
Spiritual overflow also felt really good since it gives you a bit of everything while buffing up your gun so you at least do damage with it.
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>>554084615
you rattin' us out, bro
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>>554084615
HOPE YOU DONT MIND A PICK UP
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>>554084418
that leak was like 2-3 months ago
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Don't know how Warden isn't #1 in winrate he's a total mega nigger
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>>554085190
anon's been in a coma...
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>>554085379
It's because Warden players all have brain damage
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where's my alien hero. not pre yamato redesign. they need to be female, shorts tack, caked up, with ears and a tail.
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>>554084298
Fake leak, use Yamato Redesigned (just got updated)
https://gamebanana.com/mods/599927
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>>554085594
ivy with ass and boobs
more importantly should those boobs be blue, green, purple, orange?
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>>554076001
the solution you are looking for is more objectives to do/fight over
but also the reason it's actually a problem is because most people are too afraid to take the initiative to actually end the game if they don't have like a three player advantage
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>>554085594
short stacked* also not that ugly boring grey big ass head with giant black eyes fuck you forever if you do that yoshi
>>554085709
blue because abrams is blue and on the zipline he'd go "WAAZOOGA HOLY SHIT THEY'RE BLUE LIKE MY DICK"
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>>554085594
I hope they don't add an alien hero. That would be fucking stupid and quite against a magical/occultnoir setting.
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>>554085687
One of the very few remodel mods that isn't tasteless garbage, I'm not that big of a fan of it particularly though.
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>lose all three walkers before 15
yep this is why I just brool fuck actually trying to win when you get luddites on your team. I'm currently tabbed out from the game alive right now just to make this post.
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>>554086152
okay but gleep glorp
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>>554084615
Hmmmm actually this made me think, but pause should lock your camera so people can't abuse it (and have a 5 second count before it pauses).
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>>554086301
viscous is already a psychic alien, just not from space
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>>554086173
imho it fucks HARD, the coat taken off one arm for greater mobilitiy, loose pinstriped pants, the oxford shoes, and black glasses are great. It gives westernized Yakuza very well (since Meiji Restoration + leaving Japan for NYC)

also the fact she's like towering but fucking STANCED is really funny, tall asian woman
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>>554086301
you are a redditor
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>>554084615
>Literally named myself The Rat
Wow, insanely accurate.
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>>554086984
I like glorping my shit
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>>554087154
that's my name on element
"The Rat"
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Whens the next update
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>>554087635
3
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>>554087635
two weeks if you're trusting the plan
>>
Dkwkvjsntnsjdkdocisjfjwmfkskk
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>>554087635
Feb
I'm not joking
This is value we are talking about.
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>>554086152
I thought it could be cool if they wore a suit or disguise to conceal their alienness... but then that's basically Viscous or Doorman
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>>554086152
Yeah because Billy is a good fit lol
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>>554087830
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaZWx10WkBg
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>>554088272
yes
he's practically a venn diagram between occultism and 20th century new york
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>>554088396
I am wondering what the patches smell like haha I'm just curious for laughs haha I would like to play them
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God gives his biggest fun-havers the dumbest teammates
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>>554088272
You know, never thought, but besides Billy magically changing his head to a goat, his whole kit has nothing to do with magic does it? All just physical things and such
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>>554088821
He seems to summon runes(?) with his 1 onto the floor but yeah his kit isn't that magical. Then again he says his goat head gives him eldtrich powers so its hard to say.
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>>553969640
I got my win but how will I recover from this I feel so bad to have a record like this on a hero and how am I supposed to overcome this deficit??
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>>554088821
He casts fist
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>>554089186
depends how much you play. I have hundreds of matches on my favorite character
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>played all day
>ended on a win streak
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>>554089623
i'm happy for you :]
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>>553933140
>6v6 brawl
>complete slobberknocker boots to jaws brutal fight where no one is backing down
>people dying left and right
>poor candle bros getting melted by stray bullets and wide ults
>roughly 2 mins of pure carnage
>watch as win screen fades in while Mo'n'Krell are choking a Lash out
stupid bastards never cleared their lanes before rushing urn
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>>554089720
Thanks. Playing all day and ending on a loss streak unironically sours my mood and gives me a headache
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>>554089623
good job anon
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i'm checking every few hours the discord to see if THE YOSHI has spoken
this is hell
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patch in 2 hours or monday or tuesday or maybe even another day of next week but lets hope not
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>>554090732
It's OK, they're flying past her :)
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>>554086152
>https://gamebanana.com/mods/599927
cthulu mythos usually fits occult pretty well, hellboy proved that.
so you might be able to add something eldritch and from space. like old ones or great race of yith. other than that though? idunno



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