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>>553846292

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/


>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
Dec 02 Python Commandos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPp9ZCgrP8
Dec 04 Liberate the Magma Worlds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLX9solUlHg
Dec 18 Killzone Warbond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O827A3v80Go
Dec 18 Festival of Reckoning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FDLdCtEf1M
Jan 20 Redacted Regiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvwvsJRSKk

>LATEST PATCHES
Dec 02 1.005.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/491583942944621274
Dec 05 1.005.001 (stratagem menu reload crash hotfix)
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>the image that hdg couldnt refute
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>>553933664
I can see bait mines being an attractive choice if you want to go stealth, I bet every single enemy will instantly become aware of your location as soon as it blows up tho
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Is borderline justice worth it for the talon (and maybe the dynamite) alone
I have everything else I want already.
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>>553934020
based
fuck swedes
fuck AH simps
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>>553934020
b-b-b-based
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Knowing AH they reworked stealth, but these improved stealth mechanics will only be active on special stealth missions, stealth will still be total ass on normal missions
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>>553934135
Go for it. The rifle, dynamite and hover pack are pretty good, the armors are really pretty but I never equip them because the passive is a meme, and the booster is a waste of space.
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>>553934135
Everything except the armor is worth it.

Deadeye is a stupidly good rifle, long range massive AP3 damage makes you a sniper god once you upgrade it to the 10x scope. The ammo is a bit limiting, but that's what your secondary weapon is for.

Talon is very good, I run it regularly. As long as you maintain fire discipline you effectively have infinite ammo, and overheating it once or twice is no big deal.

Dynamite is handy on all fronts. It has more demo force than AT weapons so there are certain objective buildings you can destroy that they can't (e.g. Bile Titan holes, Bio-Processors). The wide detonation area also makes it good for wave clearing, you just have to mind the timer and cook it for a bit longer before tossing.

Hover Pack is, despite the naysayers' insistences, very handy for maneuvering onto elevated terrain to get sniper vantage points. Yes, it's nowhere near as mobile and fast as the Warp Pack or Jump Pack, but if you use it strategically it's quite fun.

Even Sample Extricator is okay, especially on bots where you'll kill one heavy every couple minutes or so. If you haven't maxed out your Super Destroyer upgrades yet, Common Samples are the bottleneck at the final tier, so more Commons is always handy. Otherwise, it's good to have for sample collecting MOs.
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Swiggers are not human
They will recoil in fear and disgust at any criticism or callout of their lazy behaviors while sitting at an overpaid position
They will lie, be virulently passive aggressive and try to gaslight you
They will sic their paid shills onto you, shittifying anywhere you hang out as retribution

Suffer not its vileness, print as many SC as you want
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>>553934135
I think the banana is the best sidearm, or at least its a bit more general use than the grenade pistol for bug holes.
inf ammo + med pen is really nice for an "oh shit" back up weapon when a hive guard sneaks up on you
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>>553920728
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>>553934850
>the swede cries out in pain as it stabs you in the back
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LOBBY!
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775245060609399/76561198120804312
Urban bots kino edition
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>Joel reduced Nivel's resistance to 1.5%
Nice try Joel but I won't dive there.
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>>553934135
It's totally worth it. Everyone knocks the armor, but that's really fun too if you use it against bugs with a bushwhacker.
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>buggers not going to gacrux to seige forni prime
>just bang head on forni directly indefinitely until a handout MO from joey.
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>>553935716
3/4 lost one
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>>553935716
Good game...?
My pc keeps crashing so i think il have to take her apart and see whats up.
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>>553936697
>playing on the shitty forest biome that cockblocks red stratagems
>not going enjoying the planet with the Rupture Strain and actually engaging with the content
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Can't get the exploit to work no matter how many times I try and at this point I'm not in the mood to get my account nuked because of it.
Just signal me when there's a lobby with an SC spawner present.
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>>553937213
>playing on the shitty forest biome that cockblocks red stratagems
Admitting you cant play without strategem cope


kek holy shit
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>open game
>thousands of super credits appear in my account out of nowhere
>still don't understand why or how
will the arrowniggers ban me?
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>>553937213
>>playing on the shitty forest biome that cockblocks red stratagems
>WAAAAAAH WAAAAAH NOT MY REDDIT BOMB
kek-a-roo
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>>553937745
Thought I was the only one
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>>553937745
I don't think they've ever banned anyone
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>bugniggers can’t into fighting without strat crutches
Gigakek
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>>553938069
so did something happen today or what?
I bought some warbonds, those also provide clean credits.
You could call it super credits laundering.
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>>553938416
>>553938069
tax returns
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>blablabla star of peace
I skipped all messages as it is completely irrelevant.
Someone QRD me.
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>>553938712
A planet will soon have its galactic map jpg replaced by a different jpg
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If stealth isn't getting a major rework next patch, I don't see the point of this new bond beyond fashion.
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>>553938712
DSS is getting an upgrade that lets it destroy planets. We've still got some bot shit to do for a bit, then there will be new squid missions to get dark fluid stuff from their archives. After it's finished at some point squid cultists will detonate the meridia black hole like a bomb and it leaves some dark energy radiation >>549540175
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>>553939903
Stealth already works
Go play the nigger version of assassin's creed if you want an easier sneak mission.
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>blow up penta: shore up defenses on lesath, a fairly large chokepoint
>blow up zagan: hive world, also siege liberation on omicron
>blow up valmox: ...blow up valmox
I like to think each faction has an adviser who helps make decisions regarding that faction and the Illuminate one is just a duck that followed Joel home from the park one day.
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>>553940959
Was for
>>553939531
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>>553941112
How could you...
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>>553940959
>Stealth already works
>Enemies home in on you at all times regardless of "detecting" you, this is blatantly obvious with patrols that start slowly turning towards you
>Suppressors don't work in any functional manner. If enemies spot or hear their ally being shot, they all immediately know where you are, instead of entering a semi-alert status and looking for you
>"Stealth" in this game can be best summarized as throwing orbital bombardments into objectives from 50 meters away and fucking off
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how to use dynamite effectively
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>>553940959
>>553898362
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>>553941036
>shore up defenses
This is a nice thought, but any defensive strategies we employ are defeated by an arbitrary invasion modifier set by Joel. He likes to take a couple planets before letting us defend one. He also makes strategy impossible by dangling meaningless carrots and content in places that undermine our supposed objectives. Like that other anon said, why be strategic when you can just engage with content like Joel wants? If we were given true freedom I would vote to fire the DSS meme laser at super earth just to spite Joel. Give us some immersive content already. Invasion of super earth was almost a year ago, and the hive world rupture nonsense was so poorly handled that I think it hardly counts. We got to enjoy that for two weeks before it was tabled and rereleased even worse than it launched.
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>>553942031
You throw it at shit you want to die.
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>>553941317
>I can't just stand in an open field and plink away enemies one by one without them reacting
I already told you to go play nigger creed. That should be an easy enough experience for you.
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>>553942445
>>I can't just stand in an open field and plink away enemies one by one without them reacting
That's literally not what anybody is asking for, you disingenuous retard. This is also hilarious coming from a person defending the current state of "optimal stealth" in this game, which is again just throwing an orbital bombardment into a base from 50+ meters away where there's zero chance of retaliation from the enemy.
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>>553942964
I just don't have the energy to hold your hand and type a step by step guide on how to not be retarded. I'm sorry you can't into stealth. You're like the buffjeet trying to make everything easier. If you think that's the best way to stealth, keep doing it (or don't,) but don't ask to neuter this game even further just because you're a retard. I'm tired of catering to the coloreds.
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it gets even sadder when you realize he does it for free
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>>553942031
1. Cook it for at least 2 seconds before tossing when trying to kill chaff clusters
2. Toss it into Bile Titan holes
3. Toss it near Fabricators, Bio-Processors, etc.
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>>553943362
>Throw orbital bombardment into base
>Man I am such a fucking genius, a true stealth master
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>>553942964
>That's literally not what anybody is asking for
Isn't it? People are asking for movie silencers because realism sucks apparently
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>>553943552
>Far flung future where you can build terminal velocity-dampening shock pads in a drop pod the size of a car that allows a bog standard human to survive a fall from orbit
>Can't make suppressors better than what we have now
The Swede does not understand his milsim shit does not fit in the setting he has created.
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>>553934020
based

reminder to any anons that missed out on PCheating their SC :
>>553695034
>>553695034
>>553736482
>>553736482

it's still up, it just works and it still works
be sure to follow the instructions carefully

>inb4 muh bans
the chinks have been using their black magic to cheat SCs in and do all sorts of other things long before all of this and AH still have never done shit
best they can do is update the bypass, be sure to farm enough SCs before that happens

>inb4 brown
seethe
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>>553943776
holy based
discord tranny melty incoming
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>>553943552
People are asking for an actual escalating alert system where enemies don't IMMEDIATELY know your precise location the second you down an enemy, in which they couldn't have possibly seen the direction of the shots.

This is the problem with you faggots, your idea of military strategies and engagements begins and ends with how weapons and vehicles work, and not how enemy AI responds to what you're doing. Do you think it's realistic that a bug understands what the fuck is going on to the point of perfectly triangulating your position when you snipe a buglet behind it?
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>>553943538
>Employs logical fallacies in an online debate
>I am such a rhetorical genius! A true sophist!
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>>553943552
>Isn't it?
no you keep posting strawman arguments and using buzzwords because you don't have anything to say. you probably don't even play the game
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>>553944063
Post a webm of you stealthing a large base with more than ten enemies in it without using an orbital, I'll wait.
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>>553944025
Try sneaking up on a wild animal you retard. I can't wait to hear about it.
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>>553944025
there's a difference between realism and immersion
Im fine with silencers being movie silencers, but obviously an enemy standing right next to his buddy should at least be able to investigate why he mysteriously fell to the ground
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>>553944159
>you probably don't even play the game
Of course it doesn't play the game, it work at AH
I wasn't memeing when i posted >>553934850
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>>553944227
>Try sneaking up on a wild animal you retard. I can't wait to hear about it.
You mean that thing people do for a living and/or hobby?
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>>553934850
I'd trust a Swede over what ever mongrel mutt you are.
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>>553944197
Just go to YouTube. You think I'm going to record footage to placate your low IQ? I don't care if you're bad at stealth. Since you're such a hungry sea lion feel free to feast on picrel instead.
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>>553944461
Okay brown man... Now what did all the other deer do when that one got shot? You can do it! Think ...
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>>553944707
They scarpered? Is this your idea of a comparison to these elk roaring, calling in a horde, and stampeding your position?
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Reddit knows that the war strider is a bad enemy
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>>553944523
>Watch any "stealth" video on Youtube
>"Never detected, no bot drops!"
>They're spotted and fired at multiple times, with the combat music blaring almost constantly
>Their idea of not being spotted is just never seeing reinforcements called
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>>553944967
Which is all the proof you need that it is in fact a very well-designed enemy.
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>>553944967
this is 4chan
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WAAAAAAAAH WHY CAN'I BE LIKE HECKIN' SOLID SNAKE!!!! WAAAAAAAA FUCK YOU ARROWHEAD WAAAAAAAAA!!
Stealth faggots are unbearable. Play a different game.
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>>553944967
nigga you made this post
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>>553944967
I don't understand how people struggle with these. Literally just RR, EAT, or Quasar it in its junk or legs.
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>>553944967
>These are the people that bufftroons agree with
Sad
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>>553945270
>just bring braindead AT bro
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lobby please
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>>553945160
>DIFFERENT PLAYSTYLES IN THE SANDBOX SEMI-OPEN WORLD SQUAD SHOOTER? FUCK YOU. REAL MILITARIES NEVER USE SNEAKY TACTICS
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>>553945160
This. I love stealth but this ain't the game for it. Stop expecting every game to cater to every taste. Bring back the Niche industry.
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>>553945270
>>553945341
Amr, railgun, hmg, and tons if stuff works too. They're fragile.
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>>553945326
doesn't it cause you some sort of mental trauma to use tranny as an insult, considering you're actually transgender irl?
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>stealth
What a silly idea. Just kill them harder with your AR-20L Justice!
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They should add helicopters.
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>>553945160
>>553945435
So which is it, does the game already have functional stealth or not?
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>>553945341
... Yes?
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Even if they buff / fix stealth you won't use it because fighting enemies is easy so there's no point in avoiding it
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>>553945642
whichever gets more (you)s
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>>553945270
Yes I love having to lock my only support weapon slot in bots to 3 weapons instead of getting creative and being able to use the full gamut of support weapons.

t. always brings RR
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is the war strider a sentient bot like a hulk or is there a bot inside it like the chicken?
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>>553945642
Kind of.
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>>553945717
I stealth as much as I can right now. I want to get real sneaky.
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>>553945912
>sentient
>bot
pick one
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>>553945613
vtol tech already exists
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>>553945912
why would there be a normal bot inside it
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>>553944491
I'm whiter than you, Sven
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>Play a couple operations with a friend last night after a long break
>Finish 2 operations in under 2 hours
>40+ surplus of lives out of 60
Damn this game is easy. Difficulty 11 when?
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>>553946040
>no timestamp
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Alright guys, on your advice from last thread I dropped $10 on Borderline Justice to get the Talon before they ruin it. So far it has been great, the Deadeye is a ton of fun. Also fortified armor was a great rec, I'm slow and chunky as fuck but it really has improved my survivability. Love that my /hdg/ bros are willing to help a noob out.
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>>553944967
Shoot the hip joint, or admit you suck and bring AT like the shitter you are
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>>553946126
>I dropped $10
stopped reading don't care
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>>553945870
>NOOOOOOOOOOO WHY MUST I BRING A TOOL TO DEAL WITH A SPECIFIC PROBLEM WHY CANT I JUST USE WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>553946056
>Difficulty 11 when?
Probably never at this point. Anytime AH tries make something difficult in the game things don't go well. The gamer dads, redditors, and /hdg/ troons throw a huge tantrum, review bomb the game, and even send death threats.
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>heh, you brought a hammer for those nails?
>skill issue
>I just use my forehead
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>>553946163
surely the game tells me whether I'm about to drop into a warstrider seed so I know I have to bring AT or go to ragdoll hell
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>>553946689
Anon fails to mention he brought a sledgehammer and thinks all hammers are the same.
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I just play on dif 4.
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>>553943776
Tried it, Gameguard keeps crashing the game any time I move out of the window to click the files
Follows instructions to the letter, tried the fix
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>>553945870
>I want to use a weapon that is weak on bots against bots instead of switching to a faction that it's good against
Leave.
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>>553944967
The retarded niggers who claim that war striders are ok will always have at least RR, Thermite or Ulti, and will never, ever, EVER use anything else nor will they ever post proof that "it's too easy".
These lowlife animals would conjure the most elaborate mental gymnastics known to mankind than actually prove that the war strider has no problem when it in fact has gorillions of it.
Their argument will always boil down to "Just use [the one single loadout dedicated to deal with the problem] bro." and when asked to post solo proofs they will resort to "But it's a multiplayer game bro." which doesn't substantiate their claim about how war striders are okay nor is the game too easy.
Until the nerfniggers actually post a solo D10 bots on a WS seed with 0 AT, they are nothing but either straight up AH shill, mentally ill retards with parasocial relationship with AH or mentally retards who think they're special because they can handle the war strider when it's still """hard""".
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>>553936697
Bug players are the biggest retards in the community
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>>553947154
actually indisputable fact
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>fight one of the two factions that requires heavy AT at the highest difficulties
>'bruh what da fuck whys there so many heavily armored units'
Lower the difficulty or go play D10 squids retards
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>the game is too easy?
>ummmm.....have you tried beating a heavy seed with no AT?
Buffbrowns man
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>>553947562
>the game is easy when I use my crutches
kek
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you guys are playing the wrong way, but I won't elaborate. just know that I am playing the right way and you are not
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>>553944967
It is
>Pick AMR, RG, AC, LC, anything that doesn't instakill them
>Suddenly the weapon you were looking forward to use is completely useless and you're forced to rely on thermites and the Ultimatum you HAD to bring for this exact reason
They may have been interesting the first 100 times but nowadays I just sigh and mentally check out
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>hdg says gamer dads are shit
>hdg says stealth is broken and useless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvItRtrD-IQ
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>>553947086
It's to much to ask that you dedicate a secondary OR grenade OR support weapon slot to dealing with an armor class that appears in great numbers on every single bot mission?
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So does the Menkent Line do anything? I keep seeing orbital cannons but does it give a defense bonus to resist invasion if we hold the planet or something?

I'd be kind of cool if we could vote on where to place defenses in the future. I would have fucking loved to set up some defenses on Hellmire before it was attacked literally fucking 7 times in a row
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>>553947964
I think it was just flavor because Menkent fell just as fast as any other planet
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>>553947964
it didn't do anything
it'd have been nice if it gave something like a 0.5% defense per hour but nope
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>>553945435
The game launched with rudimentary stealth and not getting detected by patrols in HD1 was a big deal.

>>553945870
Or thermite? Railgun? Epoch? AT Rifle? Or you can just blow off the arms with a weaker weapon and ignore them. As far as I can tell they don't even have a stomp attack, unlike scouts.

>>553947086
>oh no, I have to have at least one of my 6 different slots with an effective anti-tank weapon
Yes, and? People were doing this before War striders. You don't need multiple sources.
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>>553947959
>OR
You mean and
And yes, it's too much to ask everyone to use the same shit on every single mission. I don't even want to use the same primary in the same mission and always go for my teammate's after a while
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>>553944967
>using your own le reddit post to distract 4cucks from clearly bad design
Clever, but you can't fool me, browno. Shitstrider deserves to get nerfed more.
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>>553947909
>Stealth
>Detected multiple times
Helldiver players have a very bizarre sense of what stealth actually means. If the enemy is even award of your presence, you've botched the attempt.
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>the presidential canon is still offline because faggots kept bitching
GAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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>>553947964
Anon... It's just flavor text... The GW isn't real...
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>>553946206
how else am i supposed to get SC?
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>>553947783
You can instantly kill a warstrider with a railgun. All of those weapons have more ammo than ant-tank weapons to make up for the fact that it takes multiple shots. All of those weapons can knock off the railgun arms making them even more of a joke.

>>553948325
No, he means Or. If you want baby mode you can take the baby mode loadout. But also, what else are taking? Even stratagems that aren't efficient or "ideal" against warstriders can still hurt them. People are acting like they're being hardlocked by one enemy type. Oh no my [Loadout that wouldn't be good against bots regardless of warstriders existing] can't deal with bots!
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>>553948151
>donate 1,000,000 common samples to set up SEAF encampments on a planet
>increases liberation by 0.5% per hour for the planet if invaded
>seaf patrols will show up in missions even outside cities

>donate 1,000,000 common samples to set up Orbital Canons
>increases liberation by another 1% per hour if the planet is invaded
>orbital strikes will happen on the planet like eagle strafing runs during missions
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>>553946310
>>553947068
>>553948154
If you don't bring a RR/Quasar/Epoch/EAT on bots, you are dragging your team down full stop. You're a leech shitter.
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>>553948762
>1 million super samples
>seaf patrols now come with 2 mechs one of each kind
>another 1.5% liberation progress
Fucking imagine if we had some insane battle on Mars or Hellmire and we have 3% passive liberation. Perfect choke points
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>>553948696
>You can instantly kill a warstrider with a railgun
Ok, sure, now show me how you instantly kill the 5 War Striders that just dropped on top of you on D10. Not going to read the rest until you do. Remember to do it with the other weapons too, I don't like the RG that much
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>>553948385
>faggots kept bitching
>It definitely wasn't that it was a TK machine accounting for 80% of all player deaths, surely
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Bug Story
>They invaded a bunch of planets and got BTFO
>Made a big fart cloud then did nothing ever again
Illuminate Story
>Invaded super earth and got BTFO
>Took a bunch of planets and never did anything again
Bot Story
>Endless back and forth KINO with multiple fronts and subfactions with their own personalities
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>>553949096
It was fine-ish with the Relay, after people got used to it the main complain (at least here) was that it slowed the team a lot
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>>553949096
how fucking hard is it to just modify it so it selects targets away from players or swap it to the orbital canons
I know they are swedes but come the fuck on that should be easy to program
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>>553948385
This, permanent traitor barrage was pure unfiltered soul
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>>553949238
the bug home world is a gasoline factory now and the squids live in a different dimension or something
hard to do something about those plot wise
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>>553948762
Fuck that passive shit. If we donate a million super samples I want orbital god damn hell bombs raining from the sky and a temporary 10% liberation bonus for 5 hours. Just a complete "glass the fucking planet" reset if we are about to lose and give us half the planet back
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>>553948385
it was so kino and I miss it
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>>553949354
Pretty hard since all it was doing was calling a normal 380mm barrage on top of you and hoping that the natural "circle" pattern of that strat would magically spare you
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>>553948804
You didn't mention the commando, or the Solo Silo able to delete factory striders; you know, the enemy that is actually lethal and not just mostly ragdoll annoyance like the warstrider.

Anyway, your statement is hyperbole, I rather have a guy who can clear out devastators consistently than a retard with a RR who does nothing but hit hulks.

>>553949009
The only time you could even get that many warstriders together is playing on Platinum missions.

Also

>you should be able to instantly kill 5 heavy enemy types instantly, with any weapon

stopped caring about your dogshit opinion


>>553949354
They did it on purpose because they thought it would be funny.
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>>553949354
>Every Eagle Strike from the DSS kills at least one Diver
Pretty hard for Swedes and their outsources to code, apparently
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>>553948804
Lower the difficulty.
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>>553949539
>Just a complete "glass the fucking planet" reset if we are about to lose
the chad Imperium of Man
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>>553949539
not even choking I've been wanting orbital hell bomb strikes for ages and that sounds perfect for a super sample donation
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>>553948546
This is this game's greatest tragedy.
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>>553949748
Not seeing a webm attached to your post so not going to read it
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>>553949009
>Oh no! A bot drop! 5 whole war striders?! Literally impossible!!!
Kek you're retarded and you're telling on yourself. First off, why would the drop be on top of me? Do you stand right under a bot drop? You don't take cover and create distance? More importantly where the fuck is your team at? Are you a solotroon? You have 4 helldivers with 16 stratagems, primaries, grenades, secondaries and support weapons. 5 warstriders die extremely quickly to any tyram that at least has a combined total of two bain cells. You MUST be genuine retard or redditor if you're struggling against warstriders at this point.
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>>553949539
>squids watching in horror as Super Earth starts dropping mini nukes on their own planet because "if we can't have it no one can"
I have a massive humanity first hardon right now
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>Detector tower in the fortress still doesn't have a hellbomb stratagem
Is it that hard to put in a trigger to allow a hellbomb stratagem to be dropped?
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>gun has med pen at the cost of reduced damage
>reduced damage incentivizes hitting weak points
>weak points don't require med pen
Damn. Literal aimlet trap.
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>>553950101
>>553950021
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>>553950021
I already know you're brain damaged, no need to re-affirm it.
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>>553950229
I accept your concession, shitter.
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>>553950160
It's indented that way hellchud, we love providing more choices for our players so you're free to choose between 500kg, OPS and Gas Strike in your 4th slot (that we graciously provided after removing the modifier) for the 2196th time
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>>553950172
It's can still be surprisingly useful at times. Like when you see a bunch of smoking/flaming devs and can finish them off with some waist/torso shots, I also find it useful hitting them from the rear and sides, and of course it's still useful on bugs.
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>>553950279
>>553950339
Why can't you prove it?
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>>553944967
I wouldn't have minded them at all if they had AP3 weakspots, didn't spawn as much as hulks do on D10 while having effectively double their durability, which severely limits your loadout options.

Fuck i can't even take the HMG as a single, main support weapon anymore because you'll never know if you got yourself a war strider seed. That's one slot dedicated to EAT just for their random presence alone.
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give warstriders heat vents and nerf the grenade spam. problem solved.
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>>553950879
Either give them AP3 weakspots or reduce the spawn rate, doing both would be too much
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>>553950584
It's been a while since we've gotten new upgrades. I still would like the 380mm and 120mm to not be completely useless.

I blame it on the the swedes being completely dickless and not realizing how fucking massive 380mm shells are. Fuck, NATO standard is 155mm and this is what it sounds and looks like
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M2-Yr7iaKI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaJBmyDxtYE
Can you imagine more than double that fucking size? The shock wave alone should knock over and damage all non heavy units
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>>553949518
>the squids live in a different dimension or something
>hard to do something about those plot wise
Are you ready for interdimensional helldiving?
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>>553950782
see >>553947086
the nerfnegroid will call you a shitter as it tells you that it's your fault for not playing on multiplayer
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>>553951097
>380mm
>Useless
Dumb post
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>>553950879
Isn't this more of a problem with the HMG just being shit? You can still blow off the arms with it.
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>>553951097
whats weird is calling in an artillery strike of 3 380's 5 times on paper sounds like a fantastic orbital
until you realize they hit like 38's
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Make the WASP shoot straight. I don't care for the rockets spinning and twirling through the air and hitting every stray branch and lamp post on their way to the target. It's not "so hecking cinematic" it's a fucking intentional handicap and it's gay.
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I want to be able to dual wield side arms and fucking aim while using the jet pack so I can Fett it up.
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>>553951097
>120mm
>Completely useless
>Literally the best mid-sized base killer
>Best bot drop killer
>Best Illuminate drop killer
>All on a moderately low cooldown for what it does
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>>553951292
this
this this this
so much this
I mean just look at all the stuff it killed in this video
>https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Orbital_380mm_Barrage_Preview_Video.mp4
seriously I think it took out 1, maybe 2 stray dragonflies
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>>553951335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8P8pNIzzV4

It shouldn't shoot straight, but Arrowhead's rendition is gay compared to how it is in Killzone. It arcs up and to the left, it never hits the ground by random chance.
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>>553951308
This is the truth. The HMG just isn't up to par in comparison to the AMR and AC, both which have received buffs despite being in better states than the HMG. The Railgun now one-shots War Striders too. It seems like they have simply forgotten about the HMG in comparison to the rest of the AP4s.
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>>553951276
Why yes, the game is balanced around multiplayer and people who play solo are not to be considered, correct.

>>553951335
I'm pretty sure it functions like that because it's crossover weapon that is staying true to its roots. Changing it like that would remove the SOUL.
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>>553951292
nta but although the 380mm is funny and sometimes strong I'd say it's too unreliable compared to the other barrages. Orbital Laser is kind of the same. They're not stratagems I expect to actually do anything unless thrown along with others
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>>553951715
Thing is, the WASP in HD2 is not accurate at all. If it were, the angle of the spread of the missiles would be half of what it currently is, and the secondary mode would be anti-tank.
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>>553951412
>shart wars
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alright fags

make a lobby

no AT

only HMG/AMR etc

war strider seed super helldive

let's see you struggle and me be right
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>>553951831
Well, I'm all up for it to be more accurate to the source. I've never considered Killzone more than anything but a joke, but people still enjoyed it and it's kind of a novelty weapon for the most part in Helldivers.
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>>553951487
>links to video of the 380 as it was at launch without any of the buffs its gotten since and without any ship upgrades
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>>553951965
This man singlehandedly killed Star Wars. It wasn't the shit content, Star Wars had sucked consistently since Phantom Menace, it was the face finally put to endless consumerism.
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>>553951831
oh, and what's more, it wouldn't require a backpack and it would have a 10 round magazine.
Redpill stuff right here. HD2 WASP is intentionally cucked in every metric compared despite their claims of wanting "accuracy" to the source material.
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>>553952098
Face and name. Imagine being called Butts and wanting to make that public on the internet. Imagine looking like that, behaving like that and being called Butts and making yourself public on the internet.
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>>553952043
Do you also go into predator strain levels with only the counter-sniper and single target strategems?

>>553952098
>this man killed star wars!
>despite star wars still living
Disney Wars sucks but I don't give a fuck about basedman. Also, the best star wars games came out after 1997. (Sorry Tie-Fighter)
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>>553952680
>despite star wars still living
Avatar 3 has had more cultural impact than the last five years of Star Wars.
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>>553951715
The wasp launcher is not a cross-over weapon thougheverbeiteded.
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>>553952901
>the wasp launcher is not a cross-over weapon
it's literally from Killzone and was added to the game with the Killzone shit during the first release of the crossover. it's produced by Stal Arms, the same fictional Helldivers company that produces the other Killzone weapons.
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>>553952680
>Do you also go into predator strain levels with only the counter-sniper and single target strategems?
That sounds kino
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>>553951049
Agreed.
>>553951308
Nah, the HMG was a solid support weapon against bots before war striders came into existence, just like the laser cannon, the autocannon and the WASP. They kill hulks relatively quickly with precision, takes care of FStrider chiniguns and can reliably delete brat turrets too.

Then war striders came along where those weapons can't kill them fast enough even with the added new weakspots.
They can delete their front cannons no problem but right now their grenades are more threatening than their nerfed ragdoll cannons.
The EAT/commando or supplypack with ulti+thermite becomes mandatory in their presence otherwise you're at the mercy of your teammates covering your weaknesses. Hell it's even worse for WASP and autocannon because they're stuck with backpacks.
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>>553952901
frogposters being retard and wrong, as usual. You could have at least done a 30 second google search before being so confidently wrong

>>553952862
Maybe, but that's also conjecture. It doesn't matter much either way when both suck.
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>>553953047
It's not in the killzone warbond.
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>>553950172
When swigger jank like vid related isn't happening, light pen is really good. Unfortunately, devastators doing things like this happen pretty often so unless you're a true aimGOD, med pen is going to be better imo due to ease of use. Some might say to just shoot the backpack but at that point you might as well just use med pen to get the full dmg bonus.
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>>553951249
>roll up to space portal
>haha dumb Helldivers how will you dive into a portal there is no planet we have won
>every super destroyer re-orients by 90 degrees
>just start spamming Hellpods into the portal
>squids when
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>>553952680
>Do you also go into predator strain levels with only the counter-sniper and single target strategems?
so you concede that war striders encourage AT spam and limit options. thank you
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>>553953261
happens with hulks too
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>>553953253
Only because swiggers completely forgot it exists
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>>553947964
The Menkent Line was an old MO from April 2024, we literally lost all of the involved planets like a week after we set it up.

If you look at the map, in theory holding Menkent and Lesath (as well as Marfark, which was added later on) would have prevented bot progress towards Vernen Wells and Aesir Pass. But at the time, supply lines weren't visible on the map, and I'm pretty sure the Marspira, Talus and Tanis Sectors weren't even populated yet, so it was a huge nothing burger.
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>>553953213
Brother, I have never heard anyone call the HMG a solid support weapon. It was usable sure, but it was never actually good. Even the introduction of the factory strider cucked it, with the chin MGs being fairly small targets for an inaccurate weapon.

>The EAT/commando or supplypack with ulti+thermite becomes mandatory

You don't need that many thermite grenades. You don't need the supply back. You don't need thermites AND the ultimatum.
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>>553953637
isn't this again a swede issue not knowing how guns work? Like doesn't the HMG fire fucking 50 cal rounds?
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>>553953752
There is no way in fuck the heavy machine gun fires those rounds
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>>553953415
No, I concede that you should run a balanced loadout that can deal with a variety of threats regardless of the faction you are fighting, and that you should have at least one of your 6 different slots able to deal with heavy enemies.
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>>553953486
Not an argument.
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>>553953637
>Brother, I have never heard anyone call the HMG a solid support weapon
I had great success with it in bot cities before war striders showed up.
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>>553953637
>Brother, I have never heard anyone call the HMG a solid support weapon
>factory strider cucked it, with the chin MGs being fairly small targets for an inaccurate weapon.

I'd implore you to try it yourself but nah you're just mindlessly fellating AH at this point.
I'm not gonna bother arguing with the likes of you.
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>>553953752
>>553953998
Yep, it fires 12.5 which is essentially a 50 caliber
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDfVMIgzXQ
A single round should take down squidies and their faggot spears and a handful should take out the meatballs
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Why is it that in poor visibility cities the bot's accuracy is completely unaffected?
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>>553953637
I have never heard anyone call the HMG a solid support weapon.
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>>553954263
>caliber is all that matters
bro this fucking thing fires 0.75 caliber it's practically a fucking anti-tank rifle
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>>553953637
>You don't need that many thermite grenades. You don't need the supply back. You don't need thermites AND the ultimatum.

Nigga, there's 4+ war striders on most objecetives, multiple war striders in every patrol and every drop
Thermites + EAT is cutting it close if you roll a war strider seed, if you want to play it safe (and you're practically forced to because the game doesn't let us know seeds before dropping ing) you will roll with EATs + Thermites + Ulti at the minimum.
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>>553954001
The problem with this game is specialized gear is too niche to the point they barely justify themselves, while generalist decent-at-everything tools dominate.

Look at the Liberator Penetrator, look how shit low its damage is, but it doesn't matter, because it deals AP3, has low recoil, good ergo, and gets a 60-round drum magazine. It kills everything smaller than a Charger or a Hulk, and it does it at a decent enough speed that you don't care if the Adjudicator is faster, because the Jude demands tap-firing and control under pressure you're not always afforded, with a piddly mag it burns through like crazy.

Same story with the 500kg.
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>>553953998
What are you talking about? The M2 (although not typically operated by a single person, and definitely not standing up) is chambered in .50 cal. The Russian Kord, actually has a bipod (just like the HD2 HMG) and the lightest version is "merely" 56 pounds (unloaded, I bet). It's not a stretch at all for macho men helldivers to have a future tech .50 cal HMG.

>>553954227
Have you gone crazy? I'm mindlessly fellating AH because..... I think the HMG kinda sucks?
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>>553954673
i meant because its way to weak in game
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>>553954263
The HMG fires BCHP/JHP rounds, which are different than steel core rounds typically fired from the browning. The HMG should probably do a fuckload of durable damage and be capable of nearly instantly popping charger asses/illuminate overseers armor given this fact but AH will be retarded forever so it doesn't matter anyways.
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>>553954514
And even then you still have to rely on someone else surrendering to the AT meta loadout when you encounter a patrol just after you finish a drop. I don't understand these faggots. It's almost as if they don't play the game
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>>553955047
remember when AH stealh-nerfed durable dmg of HMG? yeah
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>>553955047
>>553955684
its actually really weird how its got high armor pen but then no armor damage
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tuesday will arrive and they will
>buff all enemies durable health
>remove war strider weakpoints
>2 points of damage off the double freedom because fuck you
screenshot this
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>>553954789
I'm not exaggerating when i say that you can always effectively solo a D10 bot that has no war striders in it with the HMG even to this day, and you can do so with much more loadout variety to boot.
After war striders it's pretty much what >>553954514 said.
I will be at the mercy of teammates if i don't bring EAT/commando + thermite + ulti +/Spack as a precaution and if you genuinely cannot see what's wrong with that then i've got nothing else to say to you.
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>>553954475
Anytime it's brought up there is, at the very least, a ton of dissent on it being good or bad or mediocre.

>>553954581
I don't really get your point. Thermites are exceedingly popular and effective yet are only effective against a few targets (taking into account the low ammo count) People will take the railgun orbital just to snipe Dragonroaches. You have 4 strategem slots. A grenade choice. A secondary and a Primary. You have the ability to take specialized choices and still be able to have a varied loadout.
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>>553955047
Hollow points? What a fucking retarded choice
Fucking bullshit too, they should deal a lot more durable damage
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>>553934020
>still seething about being btfo'd
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>>553956115
>I NEED 3 different one shots or there's no WAY for me deal with warstriders at all
Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds AND paints you as a typical frogshitter, despite the fact that even inefficiently the HMG can kill them?

>>553956306
Don't take pride in playing gacha games.
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>>553956182
>Thermites are exceedingly popular and effective yet are only effective against a few targets
I think that's more that regular grenades aren't good enough and don't have value. The common alternatives are the gas grenades, which are the best anti-chaff, and dynamite, which is now the best all-rounder grenade option for chaff clear and destroying bile titan spawners.
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The HMGe feels much better because they're FMJ btw
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>>553956495
>Don't take pride in playing gacha games.
Take your meds
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>>553953253
>It's not a cross-over weapon despite being from another game and releasing in the cross-over update because... it was free and not included in a warbond that came out a year later
If they added a Stratagem that spawns a fucking John Fortnite NPC to help you out but it was free, does it suddenly stop being a cross over? Mind you, he looks exactly the same, has the same name and makes the same sounds (if he does any in Fortnite idk) and is generally just a carbon copy.
What the fuck is this logic?
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>>553954673
>>553954789
yeah, the stated dimensions and projectile velocity absolutely make no sense to calculate the resulting damage
The HMG fires 52g projectiles @ 980m/s for a total of ~25kJ of energy. This is insane, for comparison the IRL M2 shoots a 52g @ ~890m/s for ~20kJ
The MMG fires 11g projectiles @ 820m/s for a total of ~3.7kJ.
Even assuming the HMG fires a round ball of pure lead and the MMG fires a perfect dart of depleted uranium, thats still nearly 7 times the energy, yet the HMG only deals ~60% more damage than the MMG.
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>>553950172
>reduced damage incentivizes hitting weak points
or yknow, med pen unlocking torso shots meaning you can hit those if weakspots aren't available
almost like they wanted to balance armor pen that way...
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>>553936190
gonna be crazy when nivel gets captured by SEAF tomorrow
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>>553956495
I'm not saying that there's no WAY for me to deal with warstriders at all on D10 with the HMG. I know the HMG can kill it eventually but inefficient is an understatement and that's the problem.

This is the kind of thing you'd understand if you do solo runs with it, which i would implore you to in order to understand what i'm saying but with your tendency to strawman i doubt you'll even give it a try.
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>>553957242
It's the half-assed "realism" that swiggers love
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>>553957728
>team reload
>for an enemy that dies in one hit
...
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>
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>>553957914
That's every enemy in shitterdivers 2
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>>553957242
For me its just how it calculates damage. If you have something like a meat balls with no armor it should be punching literal god damn holes in them. Like if you hit someone in the chest with just a shirt on there will literally be a massive hole in their chest

And that's happening 10 times a second. Meatballs should literally be pushed back from the force
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>>553957627
He's gonna tell you it's a team game now despite him telling you that it's your lack of skills that has put you in your predicament.
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>>553957914
>self reported he plays on D4
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>>553957627
I wouldn't want to run it, I think the HMG is woefully mediocre and you're right that it really sucks against warstriders, but I also don't think it's a problem that you have to take thermites to deal with a weakness of your kit. As for it being a strawman, you used "plus/+", not "or" so I took that literally. But I'll start taking the HMG next time I'm on.

I don't play solo, I don't care about solo, and playing HD1 on solo turned me off completely from ever trying it here. It wasn't fun, clearly wasn't balanced for solo, and having to just throw C4 everywhere to deal with tanks randomly being dropped on sucked.
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>>553957134
It's sound logic is what it is.
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Why is it that in poor visibility cities the bot's accuracy is completely unaffected?
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>>553958532
? Factory Striders die to a single RR shot. Team-reloading the Spear would make much more sense
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>>553958328
It is a team game though. That's a fact.
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>>553958328
Both are true, if you don't want to rely on your team you need to be good enough
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>>553958852
Look, little guy, I dont know what dif you play on, but in d10 theres more than 1 heavy in an area.
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>>553955684
is this real?
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I wish the lean divers looked more like womanly, its cringy the way it is.
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>>553957242
mfw
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>>553959369
I never trust anyone whos smile is more gum than teeth
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>>553959581
I don't trust a smile that should only be possible with fingers yanking the side of your lips. This is still the most baffling facial expression I've ever seen.
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>>553959369
What was he replying to? "What do they eat"? "Why does no one remove the corpses and the garbage from their refuge"?
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>hmm lets bring the epoch
>shoot warstrider in the dick
>it survives
imagine having a high risk charge up AT weapon with shit accuracy and shit ammo economy that will kill you if you fuckeup even once, and it gets outdamaged by a fucking EAT
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>>553959369
>>553959581
>eyes completely unaffected by the "smiling" mouth.
That's how you know it's insincere.
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>>553958678
Fair enough, don't forget to try out other support weapons too. Contrary to what a lot of people believe, support weapons are quite balanced on D10 non-war strider bot front.

HD1 solo is fun after you learn melee dodging. Unless it's illuminates.
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did some retarded youtuber put out a stalwart video? i keep seeing people bring it and getting 8+ deaths. its really sad
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>>553960134
It was in response to someone pointing out the presence of jet, a post-war drug, in a pre-war safe
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Spacefaring shortstack goblin faction when?
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>>553960221
>that will kill you if you fuckeup even once
This only matters if youre Italian.
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>>553960134
I think this was about the ghoul child that lived trapped in a refrigerator for 200 years.
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>>553960275
Nah his eyes look scrunched a bit, unless he's always got lopsided eyes
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>>553960432
Soon, and they're all thin bony scrawny males with huge noses that talk in stereotypical New York accents.
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>>553960221
that might be because u can kill more than 2 things per minute with the epoch bro
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>>553960221
>High risk
Only a shitter would think the epoch is risky
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>>553960321
Probably people who think the Eruptor is a suitable AT replacement. Retards don't know that build variety is a meme, just run RR and win
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>>553957242
now can you do the math with the senator?
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>>553960221
The Epoch has the exact opposite of shit ammo economy and that's why it takes multiple shots. It comes with 15 shots. The RR comes with 6.
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lobby?
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The great thing about the Epoch isnt killing the enemies, its the blue flash showing everyone I did it.
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>>553961320
15g(about a .44 mag) @ 550m/s(holy shit) for 2.2kJ
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>>553961941
Based
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>>553960221
>>shoot warstrider in the dick
>picking the spot with second highest HP on the war strider and 100% durability to shoot
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Gavlan wheel, Gavlan deal.
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>completely forgotten
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>>553962041
It's not .44 Magnum, it's closer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.454_Casull
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I hate people that don't clear maps before extracting.
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>>553957242
the extra energy goes into greater armour penetration
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>>553962942
I like it. Like a wacky side grade to the Liberator.
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>>553963026
I'll never get that mindset either. We're on the ground, enjoy fighting the enemies and completing the objectives! I don't know why people are in such a hurry to get to a loading screen
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>>553962942
Maxed it out a long time ago, good, fun and interesting weapon, everything should aspire to be precisely that
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Railgun should have a small amount demo so it can close bugholes
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>>553963220
>its a liberator side grade
I think I'll use it for the upcoming Illuminate content, I maxxed out my Liberator during Super Earth and it worked very well with the WASP
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>>553962942
i like using this gun, but why the fuck does it have such shit ergonomics and ammo eco? the ammo economy i understand, but the ergonomics is completely unreasonable. kinda kills the gun for me having to use peak physique.
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>>553962942
If I didn't have my complex about only wanting to use weapons I havent leveled up yet and dropping them when I max them out I'd still be using it all the time.
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>>553963434
>why the fuck does it have such shit ergonomics
look at the fucking size of it. it's a pig
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>>553963302
I can't get eruptor to perform well against larger enemies. It's great at molesting huge groups of chaff but it seems to just tickle chargers and stuff like that. Maybe I'm not hitting the right body parts? Any tricks or tips?
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>>553963918
It's not meant for killing heavies outside of hulks in dire circumstances
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>>553963434
Is this a serious question? Have you looked at the gun at all? Not only does it hold an exceedingly large amount of ammo but has 7 fucking barrels
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Why is the warstrider eye so hard to fucking hit. I can one shot hulks all day long but these things are fucking impossible. Still feels like bringing anything but dedicated AT launchers to bots is a mistake in case you run into these garbage enemies.
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>>553960926
Not looking for that, im burnt out on hogwarts legacy. iv killed like 6 gorilla or so.. I wana war against the busty shortstack big booty gobbos.
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>>553964205
I feel like the top eye is just a complete fake out because you're going to always hit it from an extreme angle and fail.
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>>553964009
Oh. Lame.
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>>553946025
there's a bot inside the chicken strider
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>>553950160
ur supposed to bait a cannon tower into shooting it, same goes for war striders
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>>553964205
Then bring an AT launcher? Why is this such a fucking problem for you retards? It's baffling.
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>>553964821
Imagine being a metal being trapped inside a metal box buried on a planet super earth liberated years ago for eternity.
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the variable is real...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKlnMwuCZso
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>>553963918
It's, at its core, a chaff AoE weapon. The AP4 is mostly a gimmick
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///INITIATE SLEEP AND WAIT FOR INEVITABLE BULLSHIT JOEL INVASION PROTOCOL///
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>>553965468
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Helldivers_1:MGX-42_Machine_Gun
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>>553964821
the rocket strider is a scout strider chassis but enclosed. hulks, war striders, factory striders and even tanks are bots unto themselves
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>>553964821
War striders and factory striders have their own voicelines.
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>>553945990
the bots are sentient
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>>553966134
Socialists aren't sentient
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>>553962942
>superior option gets released
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>>553966302
>He doesnt want to be killing sentient machines so he knows every death is mourned by its comrades
kwab
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>bugshitters could be 30% done with Nivel 43 by now if they focused it
>instead they are zero (0) percent done with it
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>>553963434
>>553963726
The real answer is that swedes have tiny stick arms and have atrophied muscles from eating too much surstrumming
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>>553966518
Literally how. What are they even doing?
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>>553948652
Cheats an anon dropped two threads ago or mindless d1 farming, DUH!!!!!!!
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>>553966607
>>553966518
>bugchasers are bad at the game
>this still surprises everyone
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>>553966464
>does the exact same thing but without the garbage ergo
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>>553966607
Each neighboring planet has about 1.5k bugtards doing nothing, the further away planets each have a couple hundred as well.

Reminder that these are the players who literally couldn't complete a
>Extract X times
Major Order, they are barely sentient
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>>553966518
>mfw when me (BotGOD) farming on bumfuck nowhere Tattooine likely contributed more to that planet's liberation than 100 bugtrannies
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Remember. Bugs are the very ichor of democracy itself. We fight our secret weapon. To extract our FTL fuel, our.. elements.
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>>553966305
>>553966772
Can I use the shotty as an AR to conserve ammo when killing Troopers and Devastators? No? Then it doesn't do the exact same thing
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>>553962942
this shit is so fucking ass
they tried to balance like a light pen AR with a shotgun attachment by giving it shitty ergonomics
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>>553966876
Reminder that bugfags couldn't take Crimsica for MONTHS until a handful of botGODS went over there and took it in a weekend
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>bugs haven't done anything in years
>next big updates are illuminate and bots
Who would have thought that the tutorial faction wouldn't amount to anything. Even their TCS main plot turned out to be the Illuminate the entire time kek. I guess if they gave the bugs any actual threat then botGODS would roll over their territory in a week or two
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>>553966607
There are ~8k bugdivers NOT on Nivel 43 which has 9600. So only about 60% focus. There are ~3.45k bot divers not on Lesath versus 28.5k on there for a focus of about 88%. Bugshitters are rootless cosmopolitans that can't even pretend to focus when it counts.
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I enjoy fighting all three factions but it does get embarrassing seeing just how fucking retarded buggers are. Dropping orbital napalm on objectives so we can't even attempt to advance the mission, running flame weapons and constantly tking, dying to their own dogs, bringing fuck all to deal with dragonroaches, etc. I don't know why the bug attract such retardation.
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>>553967545
It definitely extends to the missions as well. Bugs are trivial at any difficulty if you just gunline all the breaches. Problem is most bugtards run off and die over and over trying to take medium nests
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>>553967723
>Problem is most bugtards run off and die over and over trying to take medium nests
That's all pubbies on all fronts
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>>553967545
I generally only die to dragonroach bullshit or stalkers coming out of nowhere to buttfuck me.
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>>553968113
Stalkers are pretty much the solo reason I always take Guard Dogs with me. Got sick and tired of being flanked and ragdolled to death.
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>>553968113
Your AT? Your Sentry? Your Guard Dog?
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I want more indoors maps. Bug caves, bot bunkers, squid motherships. I like having to rely on what you have on hand and not being able to rely on big booms to make shit die.
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>>553952862
theres a 3?
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>>553966896
I think the DO spent too long in the jacuzzi
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>>553968371
I want to fight on a space ship!
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>>553968412
It's just Avatar 2 redux. This time with Oona Chaplain being sexy.
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>>553968412
Yes, and it's got the racist human supremacist Quaritch from the first movie turned brain clone Navi banging a manic pixy pyromaniac.
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>Faction loyalties in a PvE game
Autism is one hell of thing.
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>fucked up the sound (again)
>now feels like real schizo hours running around hearing stalkers as if they're right on top of (you) or dragon roaches swooping in when they're actually 200m away
How long will it take for them to fix it thoughever?
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>>553968371
I see you also understand the appeal of bot jammers
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>sarrr think of the MO, is most certainly not filler saaarrrrrr
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>>553968371
I always had this idea where instead of fighting on planets, we used the drop pods in ship boarding actions. Would make for fun, shorter, more hectic corridor firefight missions without strategems.Take out the engines or blow the reactor, steal Intel in the mainframe, extract in the hanger bay or escape pods. Would obviously only work with bot and squids, but still.
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>>553968754
I bet you praise Caesar or lick NCR boot, you knuckle dragging halfwit.
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>>553969081 (You)
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>>553968709
crazy how the two of them are by far the most interesting characters. did they miss the mark that much or was it intentional?
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>>553969184
Yeah my dude. They should also make a mission-type where you have to like scavenge for food and build shelter.
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>>553945912
War Striders and Factory Striders are their own thing, they literally howl and roar
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>>553969924
It's just air leaving the pistons.
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>>553969597
No.
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>>553969924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aQfKdpGXfA
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>>553968615
i should have mentioned that i forgot there was a 2 as well.
also
>a sephard mischling
>sexy
i guess she's better looking that sarah silverman but its not a high bar for tunnel diggers
>>553968709
i'll be honest the only reason i know what any of that means is cause geriatric duke nukem was in enough /pol/ memes for me to figure out who you meant. i haven't seen any of the movies, does this one have shameless blue tiddies at least?
>>553969573
almost guaranteed unintentional. at this point they're just that divorced from reality. like the homelander thing (i also only know of that by 2nd and 3rd hand sources)
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>>553969573
Quaritch was always the most entertaining character. 3 just seems to lean into the fact that Cameron knows this.
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>>553967452
I think they got the most marketing too. Terminids are the most generic faction in Helldivers which is saying something in a game full of generic designs largely due to homage slop. Their design is one-note because there's only one type of bug apparently, and their gameplay is one-note because they all just run at you.
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>>553972228
this is true for bots except they just hold M1, miss everything while slow walking towards you
they need to just give them actual firing patterns depending on distance instead of randomly setting their gun at an offset while they mindless spray at you
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>>553947783
But the Railgun does insta-kill warstriders? You just have to actually aim.
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>>553947783
>>Suddenly the weapon you were looking forward to use is completely useless
hyperbolic shitter take
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>>553969573
The new avatar movies reek of soft reboot and 2 was just abysmal in all regards, the story of jake and his family hold up a lot better in 3 and has a sensible approach to the themes up until the last act where the writing shit itself in a spectacular manner
Thing is nobody give a shit about that family drama, Quaritch, who is still struggling with the concept of being a navi and being somewhat otracized by his superiors, is still the same ol' MUHREENS FUCK YEAH bastard that he was except now he found some psychotic blue pussy he get along with

The franchise is an unashamed surface level copy of pocahontas whose main attraction is the SFX, that still hasn't changed
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I always take the railgun to automatons because it just feels so good to use.
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The DCS is so shit it actually pains me
Not even the libconc/slugger/smgs were this bad to level up to 25
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Lobby posted
join NOW
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>>553973110
Based fellow Railchad
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>>553973247
I shan't dive with furniggers
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>>553973247
3/4!
>>553973369
that's fine! 2 others already joined!
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>>553973247
Anal
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>>553973247
dropping in 5 minutes
1 slot left for (you)!
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>>553973247
FULL!!!
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>>553973631
No!
loving, cuddly vaginal sex for reproduction purposes
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>>553951965
>I-is that something other people enjoy/know about?!?!!!
>Hergflblblblblbllblb!!! Me angry!
Kill yourself.
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>>553973369
The only reasonable response. It feels nice knowing they have no place on Super Earth, at least.
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>Try epoch again after the first time in a long while
Holy shit this thing fucking sucks. And that retard Alexus thought this shitcrust would out-perform the Quasar???
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>lesath jumped like 75%+ today alone
>also finishes the encircle on gaellivare when its done
>then we get to nuke clankers later this week
Bros, I love managed democracy so fucking much.
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>we could finish off Lesath inside the DSS time limit if we ignore the City, gun straight for open map progress until we unlock the Town, then polish that off
>but no, gotta finish up the City because that's how it's supposed to work
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>>553973110
Same. Though, I kind of wish it was a primary instead of support.
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>>553951965
>>553952098
Fun fact. His eyes always look like theyre on the verge of tears. I've never seen someone born to be a soijak before.
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>>553973184
It's just the ammo economy. It's so FUCKING bad on that thing.
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>>553975178
>another one
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>>553951965
Was it ever discovered what the fuck is that scab looking thing is on his face?
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>>553975494
I used to be a big epoch user but coming back to it made me realize how bad it is compared to other options
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>>553975178
>>Released with 150 spread (now 30), cranked latency sensitivity causing mass suicides if you weren't host, no visible warning on OC, demo30, and no zoom on ADS
>We built it wrong, as a joke.
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>>553975458
Aim.
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>>553975868
That didn't stop the retard ITT from defending an objectively mediocre weapon
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>>553952680
Imagine thinking the DCS/Diligence aren't good bug weapons
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>>553975868
Correction: demo10 on release
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>>553977435
They aren't.
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>>553964871
Doing the exact same shit with the exact same loadput over and over again gets fucking boring. Especially when you have these nigger developers preaching about how they don't want to enforce a meta all the while entrenching the meta with their actions.
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I run the LibCarb, big iron, and whatever fucking support and backpack option I feel like because that's all I'll ever need.
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>>553977570
If you actually tried them, you wouldn't think so. Your opinion is so wrong and stupid that it could only have come from ignorance.
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retard
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>>553977984
who are you replying to and why are you so scared of confrontation
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retard
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>>553978395
Anon thinks he is a pokemon, dont mind him.
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>>553977864
Love me carby
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrt
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>>553978818
kek
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Patrols should be coded to move between outposts instead of just homing in on helldiver's positions if they wanna make stealth a bit better. It's annoying when you're slowly clearing out an objective and a convenient patrol just wanders up right on my ass. And then make suppressors actually good for stealthing.
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>>553944967
Warstrider would be fine if they didn't soak the damn things. A singular warstrider is fine. Even two is ok.

They don't stop at two.
Every single damn warstrider seed is like those "Oops, all factory strider/impaler" novelty missions. Warstrider after warstrider after warstrider, along with chaff hulks, and double factory strider bot drops. Just how much AT do you expect me to be carrying here?

Warstriders are the only enemy I've encountered that justifies the "quasar doesn't shoot fast enough" complaint. I can't even get the damn thing to fully charge before I get ragdolled trying to take down a single one of the three warstriders throwing a dozen grenades at me from multiple directions.
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We need loading bars so i kick the 3rdie shitter making everyone else wait
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>>553944967
>One upvote
>Reddit automatically upvotes your own posts
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>>553973247
gg fellas
we blowed up those robots real good
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>>553980026
I'd be okay with war striders being less frequent if they were way more deadly
As it stands now their grenades can't actually kill you and they never hit with their laser cannons, having their laser cannons actually be pretty accurate and making the grenades deadlier would make them not so much of a pushover
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>>553973247
GGs
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>>553980839
>nades can't actually kill you
if you get only one of them to hit you & are wearing explosive resist armor, yes.

If not, grenades do 200 damage within an inner radius of 1.2m, decaying up to 6, which can take a fat chunk off your health bar and likely kill you if you're not full health or wearing less than medium+ armor(padded, explosive resist)

in addition, their greatest threat by far is the ragdolling. if any 1 of their 10 grenades or 16 shots lands near *enough*, you will be ragdolled. If lucky, to nowhere particular, you get up, and stim yourself. If unlucky? You'll get ragdolled to another grenade, directly in front of a lethal enemy like a fac strider or a melee hulk, or in front of *another* factory strider.

On more than one occasion, during those platinum missions where you get infinite enemy drops, as little as 2 war striders could infinitely ragdoll you if they had no direct sightline and just kept spamming grenades.
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>>553967545
The solution is to leave the team and do everything alone while they drown in bug breaches.
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>>553981547
>You Have Been Kicked From the Team.
No, the solution is to host your games and curate your own sessions instead of depending on pub hosts to be intelligent.
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>>553981354
I mean fair enough but it's not hard at all to minimize damage from them considering how telegraphed the attack is + the really long arming time on the grenade
It actually does function well for what it's supposed to do which is to flush you outta cover but I don't really know anyone that's getting fucked up by the grenades themselves and pre stimming also just makes them even less threatening.
It's more of a minor annoyance than anything and as a RG chad I just use the super long attack to poke em in the eye while still having enough time to walk out of range from the grenades
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I miss squid invasion missions
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>>553982328
It will be S-tier with SEAF infantry support
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>>553982328
What if they add an automaton tank only seed and special map where its just automaton tanks/shredders/babushka rocket tanks and its versus our tanks
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>>553982328
it will get me from point A to point B and I will have the option to shoot ATE shells while on the objective.

It's gonna be shitter prime pick unless its easy to destroy or has limited callins.
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>>553982328
I love how the demo video shows a shredder tank. You just know if it was a regular tank it would have been pulverised.
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>>553965570
>It's, at its core, a chaff AoE weapon. The AP4 is mostly a gimmick
Popping bile spewers like balloons with one shot is no gimmick.
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>Take off shield pack on bots
>Endless ragdolling through walls and every little explosion
Fuck that. I actually want to play the game.
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>>553982947
Have you tried... killing the things that can ragdoll you? Or dodging the explosives before they go off?
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Games difficulty is fine. Anyone saying otherwise need top stop playing as a client and host their own games. And on that note, they need to fix the discrepancy between host and client difficulty.
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>>553983131
>Or dodging the explosives before they go off?
Yes, let me turn on my x-ray vision to see the bots on the other side of a wall.
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the Solo silo + EAT + Guard dog + rocket sentry combo solved the game. Silo to 1 shot factory striders, EAT for fabricator, hulks and warstriders, guard dog for chaff, rocket sentry for everything else.
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>>553982872
It could do so even when it was AP3 and had no shrapnel
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>they need to fi-
they wont
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>>553983850
>zero solutions if he encounters six War Striders simultaneously and a Factory Strider more than 30 meters away from them
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>>553983253
>Games difficulty is fine.
>they need to fix the discrepancy between host and client difficulty.
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>>553984645
From the POV of the host, yes. The games difficulty is fine. I wont entertain the idea with D11 until they fix it. Because as of right now, how much do you want to bet theres a ton of people unaware of these discrepancies and think thats just how the game is?
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>>553984521
Just use smoke grenades and book it, if you're into the yolo lifestyle use smoke grenades to get in the middle and trigger a portable hellbomb. I love smoke against automatons.
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>>553980441
piper spotted
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>>553984521
Ultimatum and Thermite, you lost
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retard
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>>553962807
>unexpectedgavlan
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Nerftroons are labeled correctly
>Believe in the Swedish outlook of the game >We are HECKING EVIL CHUDS with BAD TRAINING and SHIT EQUIPMENT sent to die in ebin satirical GRUNT FANTASY
>Spiritually leftist, likely troon
>Can only min-max and complain about not enough difficulty = autistic, high probability troon
>Have descended to downloading porn mods to keep interest = 100% a troon
Meanwhile buffGODS deserve our name
>Bullied Swedish fags into providing a power fantasy
>Alpha, high test, spiritually Nationalistic
>Proudly support Super Earth and hate our enemies
>Want to win the war = 100% NOT a troon (they kill themselves)
>Devs have to hide nerfs in FEAR of MASCULINE buffGODS

It's that simple
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>>553982328
So does the tank have an actual armor value or will it have flat hp like the mechs?
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>>553985101
2~ thermites per war strider and you get 5 with the bonus +2 from the armor? That's not enough. Have not tried the Ultimatum yet.
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>>553973184
>he can't click heads
Sounds like a skill issue.
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>>553982051
IOSE was kino
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>>553986060
DOSE*
(Defense of Super Earth)
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BUGSISSIES! THE BOTCHUDS ARE LAUGHING AT US!!
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>>553985780
Ultimatum is pretty inconsistent for me, it's 1-2 shots to kill a war strider. You might have to get a cock shot for guaranteed 1 hit
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>>553982872
being able to pop a bile spewer in one shot has nothing to do with the projectile being AP4
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>>553986375
we never stopped laughing at them tho?
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>>553986375
I'm actually surprised how fast Lesath is progressing.
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>>553986375
How are botGODS so smart and handsome?
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>>553986379
Aim.
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>>553984724
yeah it's hard to tell what the game is like cause it's so buggy and inconsistant. Hell I remember when I first played thinking that alphas were just chaff enemies.
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>>553986549
Megacities will do that. So does Heavy Ordnance Distribution.
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>>553986549
Megacities make liberation way easier, despite what retards here say
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>>553986379
>Ultimatum is pretty inconsistent for me,
>You might have to get a cock shot for guaranteed 1 hit
it's because you ARE hitting the crotch that it's inconsistent. the crotch is 1800 HP and takes 0 damage from explosions. ultimatum only does 1000 projectile damage. The leg is only 1500 HP and takes 1200 damage from the explosion

seriously people stop shooting the fucking crotch unless you do 2000 or more damage in a single shot or are using the commando. It's the second tankiest part of the war strider
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>>553986795
I wouldn't say that, they just give huge bursts of progress when it isn't expected. Megacity planets still take longer to liberate than standard 1 million HP planets even accounting for the recalculated decay rates.
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>>553986675
At teh pee pee?
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>>553986375
>Every botworld is a clear shooting range.
>Bugs worlds are almost always obscured shitholes.
I'm sure that's a part of it. I bet the non-MO worlds with bugdivers have a clear biome.
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>>553987021
I feel like you're forgetting all the Automaton jungle worlds.
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>aim with QC
>game decides that you're too far away and LoDs your damage away
cool
I love swigger
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>Some anon said game runs better with game guard bypass
Do I have to download Cheat engine and the scripts anon posted a few days ago?
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>>553987359
Probably. Blame AH for keeping us in the same places for 2 months.
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>>553987824
placebo
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>>553986992
>I use to be a diver dribbler, until I took an Ultimatum to the knee...
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>>553986193
How undemocratic of me. Of course!
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>Me and some other diver on our own
>Were both watching each others back
>Hes sniping hulks and heavy with the railgun while im keeping other bots off his back
Yes. We DID have gay sex after
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Don't you know you could've killed all those bots yourself then jerked off after?
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hey guys have a quick doodle
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>>553990635
Sometimes you gotta blow a bro
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>>553990663
Cute!
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I have a question, wouldn't blowing up Penta basically give us permanent access to the sector that cyberstan resides in?
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>>553990663
off-model *throws a HE grenade at your feet*
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>>553991439
No. It stops us from accessing the Valdis Sector through Merak, since it would be cut off due to Penta not existing anymore. Aurora Bay would be our only way in.
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>>553991669
And their only way out...
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>>553991439
“Bro… hear me out… Blowing up Penta isn’t just ‘winning the war,’ it’s literally speedrunning galactic manifest destiny. Once that Super Earth-approved freedom-nuke turns Penta into a glowing glass parking lot, the entire sector becomes a no-man’s-land free real estate grab. Cyberstan? More like Cyber-stan’t-stop-us-now. Think about it: Automatons lose their forward staging base
Bugs get psychologically owned by the mushroom cloud dopamine hit
We plant a 500-meter tall Statue of Managed Democracy right on the glowing crater
Instant permanent beachhead. Permanent. Like, divorce-your-wife permanent.

We’re not just taking the sector, we’re circumcising the map. Snip snip motherfucker. TL;DR: Nuke Penta = free real estate + unlimited war crimes speedrun + wife left me for a terminid (real) Who’s with me? Updoots to the left, copium inhalers to the right. Edit: Wow gold?!?! Thanks kind stranger! First time getting gilded while suggesting planetary genocide, feeling kinda based ngl ”
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>>553991669
Are you sure?
The supply lines still existed between Meridia and the planets around it before the squids started moving it
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>>553991656
is there an official/consensus reference model? lots of interpretations i looked up were slightly different from each other.
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>>553991656
Ermmm. Thats mysoginistic. Why didnt you use a THEY grenade?
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>>553991669
>he doesn't remember Joel just making up supply lines
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The Deadeye is literally the best gun on bot, only aimlets will disagree
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>>553991978
no, it was a joke, seaftards are just as bald as everyone on the superdestroyer
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>>553992148
Weird way to spell Eruptor
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>>553992148
if you're popping heads it's better to do that with shit like the diligence or amendment instead of being bogged down by slow fire rate and rounds reload. the deadeye wants you to hit headshots but other guns already do it better.
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>>553992191
SEAF-chan has been officially exempt from SEAF follicular regulations due to observed positive morale effects stemming from her golden hair.
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I just heard an automaton call the robutt a fleshfucker.
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>>553992148
>literal aimlet gun
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>>553938120
They have. I submit Zendesk reports when I have cheaters in my games. The reporting system prompts you for your user ID and they use that to comb through your played games. They also send you a thank you email when they are done with it. Good luck catching bans y'all
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is it true that the bots are not actually robots but human brains in robot bodies?
like raiden style?
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>>553985661
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/EXO-49_Emancipator_Exosuit
Vehicles have armor and parts HP like enemies do. It's just that important lethal bits are often AV2 so you aren't immune to anything.
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We have exactly 2 hours left to use the thread before Gucci the nerf nigger wakes up and shit up the thread with his schizo ramblings again.
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>>553996284
No. Its been debunked multiple times.
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Im going to solo fag in random groups while stealthing and you can't stop me
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>>553996472
I wish heavy armor was AP3 on torso...
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>>553996284
The original faction was humans who became cyborgs, they mostly got wiped out and now use full robots, but we're getting cyborgs back soon.
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>>553933664
I was unironically being filtered by charger spam on planet with flying BTs. It's much easier when it was just BTs.
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>>553997081
>debunked
This was debunked by snopes.
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D10 on Lesath city

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>>553997864
2/4
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>trying to level up a shitty weapon that has almost no redeeming qualities against a faction that is super strong against it
>just wait for a teammate to die and then pick up their primary weapon
>actually have a fun time in the mission
>after extraction, get XP for the original weapon despite having used it a minimal number of times
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>>553997864
Nobody playing at the moment huh?
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>>553998981
game crashed on startup
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>>553997864
3/4 about to start
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>>553998981
Bouta wrangle mah hog then turn in so I can wage slave tomorrow. Ohhhh 3 day weekend. Thanks famous dead coon!
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>>553997864
FULL
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>>553998650
>get XP for the original weapon despite having used it a minimal number of times
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>>553998650
When i feel like leveling the crossbow i'll probably do this.
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>>553997301
>soon
"rest of the Illuminate roster" soon
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>>553999425
>Thanks famous dead coon!
You guys get a free day for Tupac?
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>>554001473
What the fuck are you smoking?
The crossbow is strong for every front.
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>>554002601
Snore gun.
I'd rather use the pacifier, even that piece of shit is more fun.
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does the superstore rotate?
i saw the shotgun last week but it's gone now and can't find it on all the other pages?
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>>553953261
>When swigger jank like vid related isn't happening
The bullets are coming out of the barrel, not the sights. This is indeed intended.
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>>554003464
yep. there are 6 pages to rotate through atm, 48 hours each. so ur gonna have to wait 10 days for the DBS again.
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>>554003464
The first page rotates between the six most recent warbonds. All older warbonds have permanent pages.
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>>554003464
It has like 5 pages rotating every 2 days, everything older than the last 5 added pages is available permemently.
Used to be everything was on rotation because we can't even give faggots money without FOMO being crammed everywhere nowadays.
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>>553997864
Thanks for the games. I'm gonna do another operation if anyone wants to join.

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>>554003846
3/4
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>>554003963
It's failing me to join even before your post so
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>>554003846
FULL
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If Sweden wanted this game to be realistic, they wouldve had your computer shoot you every time you got shot ingame
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>>554003604
>>554003614
>>554003809
is it all stuff from warbonds you usually have to buy to unlock?
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>He wears the blue helmet and purple cape with a random armour chest
Grown man begging for attention, btw.
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>>554004551
No, it's stuff that's released alongside the warbond that you can only get from the Superstore. For instance, Viper Commandos released with Light and Heavy Peak Physique in the warbond itself, but if you want Medium Peak Physique you have to shell out SC and buy it from the Superstore. Similar for all the other warbonds.
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>>554004862
roger, i'll check it out
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fantasy helldivers when?
>knight armors with different blessings
>select which melee weapon and shield to bring
>maybe even classes, not only knight but also mage, monk, etc.
>get thrown into battle by catapult
>fight with orcs, demons, vampires and such
>call in strategems with colored smoke bombs
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>>554006125
Doesn't work because third person melee animations are always jank
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>>554006441
they will make it fun so it's okay
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It's okay to have FOMO in this game, re-releasing the Killzone stuff was a mistake, I missed seeing low levels being jealous of my Dutiful armor set. If swiggers re-releasing the blue yogurt armor next I'm going to crash the fuck out.
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For people that want bots to be more accurate. Heres a fun experiment. Whenever the bot shoots you twice. Throw a grenade at your feet and suicide. In your perfect world the bot wouldve killed you.
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>>554007148
>I missed seeing low levels being jealous of my Dutiful armor set.
>"Please cater to insecure 40 year old men like myself"
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............. Nah.. :)
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>>554003846
Thanks for playing, gonna do another operation. im gonna disable crossplay in case is affecting anyone.
2/4
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>>554007281
Be quiet NPC, your existence don't matter.
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>>554007392
FULL
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>>554007436
You still havnt given me a valid reason to appeal to you, a 40 year old man who wants to feel special.
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>>554007541
I make 250k a year
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>>554007392
3/4 lost one and ready to drop
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>LOOK AT MY FOMO! ARNT YOU JEALOUS! IM BETTER THAN YOU! DONT YOU SEE!?
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>>554006125
>erm, armor blessings? that's not very realistic of you... even if we did do it, how could putting a square symbol on your helmet make you stronger, or a triangle make you faster?
>a troll is a very tough opponent, and in traditional stories their regenerative properties can only be overcome by acids or poisons, so if you don't bring an alchemy kit, it makes sense that you would lose. your sword isn't meant to be able to kill a troll!
>holy avenger longsword: increased slashing damage by 2 (now 22), increased durable damage by 1 (now 11)
>heavy platemail: increased damage resistance by 5%
>undocumented change: increased enemy bludgeoning damage across the board by 50%
>dev video arguing that "plate armor doesn't protect against getting bludgeoned to death"
hope this helps you to live out that fantasy a little anon
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>it's happening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTk6xPCWQgU
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>>554007392
>im gonna disable crossplay in case is affecting anyone
More anons should do this if they host, stop this "crossplay on" plague from spreading.
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>>554007148
It'll keep being unique because KZ is so niche and has zero popularity with normalfags
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>>554007697
>"LE EBIN METAL REMIX!!!!"
Buy an ad and go back
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>>554007764
Young stopped making Helldivers slop like a year ago dude. He moved on to 40k.
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>>554007392
I crashed and now it says the lobby is private?
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>>554007148
>Wow anon you were a good goy a year ago, you're so cool!
Genuine cringe, FOMO is gay as fuck and in games turns being a good little consumer into a status symbol.

If you want some sort of status symbol armor or title it should be tied to some sort of challenge but that shit's never happening with swedes.
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>>554007148
Can't wait to see you cry when sweden will give me the blue armor for free
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>HEH I DON'T WANT TO BE YOU!!! I JUST WANT TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE YOU!!!!
poor people disgusts me
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>>554007697
This song is really gay
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>>554007802
Still not watching your reddit remix
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>>554007810
okay gonna open it
oops
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>Every pro-FOMO argument is just about his fragile ego and wanting to feel special
FOURTY. YEAR. OLD. MAN.
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>>554007840
The Star of Peace arc is also probably going to be gay.
>>554007845
Ogey.
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>>554007810
I kicked you and I don't want you back
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>>554007991
Very funny. I'm going to rape you fake anon
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The chainsaw is actually very good once you figure out how to properly use it.
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Liking fomo is only acceptable if youre one of two things:
>A teenage boy (Being an obnoxious faggot is a rite of passage)
>A biofem
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I’m getting by just fine with the Trailblazer armor, I don’t really need the stealth warbond. I will not paypig. That is all.
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>>554008172
Running in while wearing any of the Servants of Freedom armor and scrapping as many bots as possible before I get killed and suicide bomb the rest has been both fun and effective in my experience.
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>>554008182
>biofem
There is no other kind of fem.
Troons are still male.
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>>554008337
i had to specify for troons who think otherwise
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>>554008172
I wouldn't call it very good, but it's deffinitly usable on D10.
I find it to perform best vs bots which is kind of surprising.
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>>554008519
How do I use the chainsaw on bots? I can barely run it against bugs.
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>Scary fucking trap door spiders as a concept in HD1
>Couldve had scary ass spiders in cave on Hive Worlds
>Couldnt because Reddit would complain about arachnophobia
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>>554008337
there's cyberfems
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>>554008371
Troons probably like FOMO (they're cutting their dicks off to jump on the "best time to be a woman in history" train, after all) too so it was superfluous.
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>>554008963
>>Couldnt because Reddit would complain about arachnophobia
and /hdg/ would complain they're "tedious" and "annoying"
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>>554008963
Just as well, even if they weren't spider-like people would complain about having to fight boss-tier enemies underground where you don't have access to red stratagems and the tight quarters would cause a fuckload of jank.

As much as I do like the idea of a trap door bug that you have to kill to unlock a passageway it's blocking, or a tunneling bug that blocks entire tunnels and/or causes cave-ins and creates new tunnels behind you to facilitate bugs surrounding you suddenly, that is also highly unlikely to be possible in the current engine.
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>>554009371
Considering they wouldve acted like rupture strain, yeah people wouldnt have liked the stim tax.
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>>554008603
Chainsaw works better less but heavier enemies, the blade sawing into an enemy makes it struggle vs hordes but can stunlock hulks or warstriders.
I use a shield gen for defence, but warppack worked pretty well for me aswell (the sawing animation aplies stun and keeps reaplying it aslong as it's stuck in the enemy).
And getting gas or stun in your build can help alot aswell.
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>>554009594
I'll give her a whirl
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>>554010021
Against scorcher hulks you might have to bait out their swing before cutting him in half, the stun effect takes a second to kick in.
For warstriders just go for one of the legs.
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>>554003557
Yes that is the jank here, not the devastator hiding his head and phasing his gun through his shield
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>>553991872
This post made me retarded, but also happy.
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>>554010532
Oh yeah, it can also saw fabricators in half.
Just saw the sides for a few seconds and run away before it explodes.
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>>554008519
wild take but based
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>>554007392
3/4 starting now
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>Sickle has no heatsink options
>Scythe has no scope beyond 2x
Sweden must be nuked
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>>553967545
>Dropping orbital napalm on objectives so we can't even attempt to advance the mission, running flame weapons and constantly tking, dying to their own dogs, bringing fuck all to deal with dragonroaches, etc.

literally all me
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>>554010532
That's actually a ton of fun. It's tricky getting it to bite sometimes, but I'm getting more consistent. I'm running through Lesath with Urchins, which helps.
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Bots D10
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>>554012380
Feels like mordhau/chiv to turn you camera to have it stay in.
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>>554012380
The re-educator might be 11/10 for the saw since it's an instant brap confusion effect with ap4 that has 18 rounds.
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>>553943776
cheers, had to disable run as admin in compatibility so CE would hook properly.
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We rockin
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>>554012821
Was thinking the same, is it single target effect or does it make a gas cloud like the speargun?
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>>554012568
3/4 niggas, hop in!
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>2026
>Still no armor color customization
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>>554012992
FVLL
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>>554012984
seems to be single target, it just applies a ton of the brapp'd status to the enemy the projectile hits. In the trailer it doesn't produce any clouds, the enemy just has the lingering fart trail that means they're gassed. Which is good since it means no chip damage from the cloud.
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>>553967545
because they're the "le for fun" faction and for fun players care not about maximizing success or winning. Sooner people figure this out the less they'll mald in games.
>t. gets to hear friend mald about randoms in just about every game we play.
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>>554013052
grunt fantasy.
being able to choose your weapon, armour itself, and what type of super destroyer support is fine. but dying armour a different colour? That isnt believable.
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What do you guys have the key binding set for aiming down sight? For me it’s on the defaults mouse scroll button but I want to change it to something else.
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>>554013052
>>554013810
they have to learn how to code in a toggle first
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>go play with randos
>game is just completely brain dead AI wise

has it been like this the entire time?
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>>554013929
stop playing as a client
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Please tell me they’re releasing another warbond in February. The new stealth warbond looks so lame.
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>>554013929
For a while now, yes. It's how the mouthbreathers that play this game for fun and vibes like their AI.
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D10 bots 2/4

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>>554013929
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>>554014615
I'll never get this argument from the normies. It's a fucking Game as a Service type of game. It's expecting you to have 1000 hours in it because the game is always evolving, not 5 hours and then drop it and never play it again.
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>>554014298
Get in here, you niggers
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>>554014298
3/4 we will be diving asap
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Arrowhead, it's simple. If you don't buff stealth so it functions almost 1:1 with MGSV, I'm not buying Retarded Regiment.
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nobody cares
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>>554015191
The only way to make stealth as usefull as in mgsv would be to make gunplay as bad as in mgsv.
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>>554015301
Gunplay in MGSV is literally 1:1 with Helldivers 2 outside of all the shit Arrowhead tacked on. In fact, it's blatantly obvious MGSV was the template for this game.
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>>554013810
right analog stick click
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>>554013929
>>554014252
is this some conspiracy that you get better enemy AI in private lobbies?
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>>554014774
For a live service game with such a high regular player count, this game really doesn't get a lot of content...
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>>554015619
substantially better ai if you're host or second slot
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>>554016384
Could you clarify? I always host. Are the enemies smarter against me, but dumber against players 3 and 4?
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>Vibes addicted bugtards only now starting to break 0% liberation on Nivel 43.
lmao
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>>554016853
Yeh
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>>554016875
>Suddenly theres enough bug players logging on
Guess theyre all coming home from a long day of scamming grandmas.
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>>554017165
wtf is wrong with these devs
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>>554017385
Innit like 1 pm in jeetland?
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>>553948365
Helldads and their simps have been pushing hard to prove stealth/suppressors aren't broken ever since the stealth warbond got announced. Prepare for mass delusion like SPEAR bingo
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>>553951097
Everything makes more sense when you look at the state of the real life Swedish military. Fuckers are still in cold war era equipment. They don't know what modern artillery looks like let alone the guns and attachments
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>>554017815
I need to make a surpressor bingo
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>>554016853
It is most notable against bugs.
If you're the host you eat shit. You can't just run past a bug and not get swiped unless you're wearing light-armor and have a bit of luck. Meanwhile a non-host can be the fattest piece of shit and take a leisurely stroll through a bug-swarm and not even take a hit.
The tracking/hit-detection takes a complete nose-dive if you're not the host.

Enemy AI also stops functioning when far enough away from the host. Brood Commanders will just stroll past you. Hunters and Warriors appear confused as if they don't know to attack you. They exhibit less aggressive behaviour.

They'll also primarily attack the host. If you're in a group and a bunch of stalkers come running you can be quite certain they'll beeline straight for the host.
The host is playing on a higher difficulty while the clients are having a safari.
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>>554018039
Make sure to add "Called it a silencer" as the middle of the board freebie.
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>>554018275
https://patents.google.com/patent/US1482805A/en
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>>554017815
I think it might just be a video game generation thing, since stealth games as a genre died off hard after the 2010s excluding one or two titles.

To people who actually grew up with and played stealth games, the absolute peak of your abilities was ghosting a mission so not once were you seen, not once were you detected, not once did someone grow suspicious. It was like you were never there. To Helldivers players who never played stealth games, "stealth" is just not getting reinforcements called on you and avoiding patrols. It's not about ghosting. You still end up in firefights and shit shooting back at you.

So you end up with these arguments where true stealthfags are asking for Chaos Theory tier stealth, and people who never played games like that saying the stealth is fine as is.
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>>554018272
I think the biggest and most notable difference is how easy it is to dodge chargers as client. You can just dive left or right and the charger will miss.
As host you need timing, precision and jukes. Still might clip your leg and send you at mach 5 into a nearby cliff.

The difference is night and day.
It's why I got tired of hosting for my friends since they did not appreciate my sacrifice.
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I wish SEAF showed up more in missions I like my goofy cannon fodder

also I like the DSS airstrikes, they add a cinematic flare to missions
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>>554016853
Being the host is like playing D11
>Bots and Bugs are more accurate
>Patrols spawn around you nonstop
>Bugbreaches/Dropships are more common
>Alpha Commanders will run off and spam Alpha Warriors where as for clients they dont spawn anything but still play the animation but will instead charge you as intended
>Chargers make unnatural 90 degree turns mid charge while clients can lightly jog to the side and dodge it
Just to name a few.
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>>554018272
I was with you until the stalkers part, those invisible fucks only ever target me first regardless of where I am in the group
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>>554008963
we already have a guy whose afraid of flies, if any spiders get added super earth will fall
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>>554018903
I'll admit I might have started to seethe midway through.
Got a little carried away.

Stalkers do appear to fuck everyone up equally. Maybe. Perchance even.
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>>554014298
my game crashed just before extraction
thank you sweden
GGs
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>>554014298
Thanks all for diving. I haven't played with /hdg/ in months.
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Why does the epoch even exist?
It's absolute dogshit in every regard and strictly worse than all the other backpackless AT options it competes with
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>>554016853
I do notice that my diver tends to get chest injury far more often as a host than a client. Always thought that the whole bleeding bad thing was a meme until i started hosting in which bleeding happens almost every fucking time.
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>>554019642
humiliation ritual weapon just like how the maxigun shouldn't exist among its peers
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>>554019642
you can kill groups of doods with it and you can strip/delimb armor doods
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>>554020128
>you can kill groups of doods with
the aoe is absolute ass and you rarely kill more than the direct target
this thing isn't doing any sort of anti chaff or anti medium work with 15 shots and a charge up
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>>554019642
>3 shots instead of 4 or 5
>extremely long reload for what is just sticking a tube down a hole
>it's the only plasma weapon that has the railgun's charge penalty and has a worse payoff
>fucking spread on the projectile even when you're standing still
and to think it was even worse before because of this fucking retard
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>>554020440
u spawncamp doods with it
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>>554019751
Its amazing how everyone immediately dropped it once they actually got to use it.
>Give people what they asked for
>Monkey paw it to be absolute dogshit
What compels them to do this?
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>>554019642
Fun bug and bot weapon
Not brown so I never tried it on squids
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>>554020824
Swiggeries. Same applies to the chainsaw.

>inb4 b-b-b-b-but i bring it against bots and it werks!
Yeah because your teammates and your ulti/thermite/EAT will do most of the work for you

>inb4 b-b-b-but heavy weapons against heavy enemies also team game
sneed
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>>554020824
Is minigun unpopular now? Finally.. I can use it..
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>>554021062
It was unpopular a week after it came out because it was so fucking bad.
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>here's a new gun
>by the way it only has 3 magazines
>oh that's too low?
>alright alright we've given it 4 magazines
>also go dive on this planet
>by the way we halved the amount of ammo you get from resupplies
What is actually wrong with these "people"?
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>>554021062
Minigun is such a gimmick weapon
>Not enough firepower to compensate for the lack of mobility
>Not enough firepower to compensate for the lack of precision
>Not enough firepower to justify the ass ergonomics
>Not enough firepower to justify the lack of ammo and how expensive it is to resupply
>Random wind-down period where you can't move when every faction is filled with enemies that want to crawl up your asshole
You'll do better to just pull out your Talon and forget the minigun even exists; it just outshines the minigun, figuratively and literally, in every situation.
I TOLD that fucking autist a backpack minigun is a fucking stupid idea.
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>4 hours left until vote
>lesath still not taken
owari da
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>>554021642
libpen is a better minigun than the maxigun
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>>554021642
It's hilarious how everybody knows the backpack flamethrower and backpack grenade launcher are both going to mog the maxigun.
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>>554021927
>backpack grenade launcher
which leak is this?
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>>554021927
>backpack flamethrower
>backpack grenade launcher
Don't kid yourself, those strategems will be to their backpack-less equivalents what the minigun is to the MMG, except the fire damage STILL won't work properly unless you're right next to the host.
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>>554021642
>You'll do better to just pull out your Talon and forget the minigun even exists;
If you want to magdump, unironically use the Dickle. Does everyone the maxigun does but better and even has heavy pen and lets you stay mobile the ergonomics isnt ass and it doesnt have recoil.
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>>554022203
I was making the point that a secondary pistol is somehow better in ALL aspects than a support weapon that takes up two slots.

If they're just going to give backpack versions of all the different weapons, I request backpack arc thrower/blitzer. Surely they can't fuck THAT up, can they?
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>>554022380
>Surely they can't fuck THAT up, can they?
Yes. Yes they can. Never underestimate the power of a Swede that thinks they know better than the players.
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>>554020824
>What compels them to do this?
Being passive aggressive when nagged or criticized is a defining feature of swedish culture, these weapons are just AH flipping the bird at you with a smile.
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>the players keep asking for customisation
>here give them some sights and shitass camo and then never update it again
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>our exploding assault rifle isn't functioning as intended
>lets leave it unchanged but rename it concussive
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>no we can't just let you customize the color of your armor
>bacons apples
>meanwhile modders are implementing LUT-based systems for easily changing colors.
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>>554022132
If the backpack flamethrower did nothing except extend the range +100%, it'd still be a massive improvement over the regular version.
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>>554023342
If they fixed the ergo or improved floor flames flamethrower wouldn't be such ass.
It's retarded how scavs will stand in a lake of fire untouched.
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>>554023342
>>554023446
main problem with the flamethrower is the drag
it loses most of its damage by the end of its range, it's practically a glorified melee weapon
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>content in 4 days
>but I already tested them all
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>>554023602
Most of its damage is converted into dot dps anyways.
Problem is that you can't swing it fast and you get mogged by enemies.

Frankly it's a really powerful weapon when you build into it properly, and I genuinely think people don't really understand what good anti chaff looks like.
It's just stupid how clunky it is compared to its primary counterpart.

It's like if the stalwart had substantially worse ergo than the liberator, and had the same DPS. You'd be confused why you're bringing stalwart
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>>554023771
>bro just build for it
Alright dude. How exactly do you "build" away the shittiness?
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>>554023840
warp pack probably carries it like most shit weapons
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>>554023628
The C4 is actually dog shit
The Censor is okay, slow as fuck bullets though
The Supressor is S+ tier, will mog the fuck out of the basic liberator and lib carbine if you can put a 4x scope on it
The Re-educator is next to useless
The Lure mine doesn't seem to work 80% of the time
The new grenade is basically Impact Smoke
The drip on the new armors is nice, the passive is meh
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>>554024161
can't wait for the suppressor to come out pre-nerfed
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>>554024210
It's already nerfed, 85 damage
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>>554023840
Gas / stuns
Shield pack / supply pack / warp pack,
Anti elite primary.

Stun groups, maintain distance. Sweep into groups of lite chaff and melee stuff as they approach. You basically want to keep shit in the hot box long enough and apply damage over them constantly. It's very easy to get 30+ kills with less than half a can. Make sure to cycle for harder targets with your primary.

You can then punch heavies with EAS or Strafing. Then finish them off with flamethrower.
This is also way more easy on squids because all voteless variants melt to fire.
You should be getting easily over 40 kills with this per sweep on squids it's kinda disgusting

Flamethrower is probably the strongest it's ever been and one of the strongest weapons to build into.
Frankly I find it funny how people shit on it.
Hell you can take urchins with flamethrower and do stupid well if you plug breaches.

Just make sure to never use flamethrower in directions you wanna go
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>>554024161
>The C4 is actually dog shit
How so?
Looked stupid strong on paper. What kills it?
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>>554021642
>minigun in the big hyped meme weapon warbond
>is worse than the MG you start with
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>>554024706
Pre nerfed.
They unironcially have to undershoot shit before buffing because they can't make stuff OP and nerf it.
It's retarded but it makes sense.
Frankly it's impressive how close it is to a solid side grade
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>>554024804
Too bad they forget nerfing the bad stuff.
Fucking pineapples are still dogshit, the epoch still sucks and the memegun hasn't received a single buff
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>>554024884
Memegun hasn't had a chance to get buffed in all fairness. We haven't had a balance patch since it came out.

It's fucking criminal how pineapple still sucks though.
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>>553961727
>comparing a two-shot chargeup to a oneshot long range weapon
You're one witless nego.
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New wb looks really underwhelming instead
Gonna play wolf among us and dead rising this month instead and come back to smelldivers if the next one actually looks fun
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D10, Robots.
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>>554024161
>The C4 is actually dog shit
swiggers pls understand fix in 90day patch V2.8.3.7
>The Censor is okay, slow as fuck bullets though
will be ignored like so many others
>The Supressor is S+ tier, will mog the fuck out of the basic liberator and lib carbine if you can put a 4x scope on it
nerfed like coyote if true
>The Re-educator is next to useless
will be ignored, slightly patched from shit to a wet fart
>The Lure mine doesn't seem to work 80% of the time
pls understand job hard no complain patch soon maybe
>The new grenade is basically Impact Smoke
mite b cool
>The drip on the new armors is nice, the passive is meh
as always choose between drip or functionality
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>>554026167
3/4.
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>>554026167
FVLL.
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I'm voting the hive planet
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>>554028369
we need hive worlds for E711 you fool

you absolute buffoon
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>>554027616
>regular charger needing 3 rockets
Yep, those were the times..
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I can't stop bringing dynamite to bots. It's just so good.
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>>553942235
>the hive world rupture nonsense was so poorly handled that I think it hardly counts
This. I consider into the unjust worse than escalation of freedom
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>>554028860
teach me your ways Pete
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>>554028649
Joel will just conjure up another hive planet somewhere in the back of the bug sector
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>platinum heist missions nowhere to be found
This release-content-then-remove-content-after-just-1-week-model is unsustainable.
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>>554029172
It will return when we have to stop the bots from building their death star. But to be fair, they completely axed the squid invasion mission ever since the Super Earth defense, so it might just be gone
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>>554029172
This game died the moment the UN approached Pilestedt about "psychological defense against manipulation." That's why he abandoned it. The game will now and forever be a series of novelties and half-assed plotlines that try their very hardest to avoid saying or doing anything provocative.
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>>554029281
squid invasion mission will be back after the star of peace creates another black hole for the squiggers to come through
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>>554028649
We have Omicron for that.
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>>554026492
>as always choose between drip or functionality
>Leggionaire with an S-tier perk
I get a nationality bonus.
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>>554024675
it takes both a support weapon slot and a backpack slot
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I have been maining the railgun ever since I found out you can 1 shot them to the eye, bringing anything else just feel like gimping myself
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>>554030916
who's them?
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>>554031194
the war striders, sorry I'm high as fuck right now, the voices inside my head won't stop asking me questions
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>>554030574
true and based
I'm also a big juggernaut user

I was referring more to new shiny armour, looks good but usually shit or subpar perks
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>least mentally ill railgun user
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>>554031194
the space alien dude lmao, like CIA shit man you know what I'm saying, the damn spooks been keeping it secret deep underground like man they think we are stupid or something, dude Area 51 bro, creepy shit I telling you all kinds of creepy shits down there that's why they wont let us enter, the space shapshifting lizards got too much power, my cousin's uncle is a retired CIA agent and he been telling me Donald Trump and Epstein are both lizard people, like shit dude that's why they're were so close to each other, all the little kids on that island were used in satanic rituals and all kinds of unholy practices like shit bro America is fucked
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>>554030349
Omicron will go under siege if we destroy Zagon. Unless Hive planets are an exception to sieges
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>less than hour to vote
It's over for botsissies you didn't take Lesath in time.
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>>554026167
3/4 again, fresh OP.
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>we get to voote on removing planets and their biomes from the game
What next? Are we gonna start vaulting warbonds?
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>>554024675
>What kills it?
their entitlement skewing their expectations, their rampant skill issue skewing their perception, and their hyperbolic black and white mentality of what "good" means.
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>>554033534
Valmox will automatically win since Penta and Zagon are unavailable.
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>>554033651
wait do we have to liberate lesath to vote penta???? i don't understand
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>>554033651
>>554033534
It's railroaded for the squigger invasion
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>>554033534
Soon we will get Prime Warbonds that you can get for 100 bucks or by grinding for 100 hours
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>>554026167
FVLL again.
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are the stats for new guns known? did they change since the leak
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>squiggers steal the death star
>blow up super earth
GG EZ
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>>554034386
>Capital becomes based Mars and we become Super Martians
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Told you joel would spin this as a "squigger tasting their own medicine" narrative
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>>554034681
Based
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SOMEBODY'S GETTING FUCKED
SOMEBODY'S GETTING FUCKED
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Can I get a QRD on the death star situation? Why would we destroy a planet instead of keeping it?
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THE DOG IS BEING RAPED
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>>554034681
But Mars has been blown up off-screen by Squids already during the first Invasion of Super Earth.
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what is unc yappin about?
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>>554035375
because we're super earth and we fuck our enemies even if it's been proven that dark fluid will cause squigger invasions

essentially we're narratively doing the wrong thing and not learning and our reward will be narratively being told off for doing so but gameplay wise we get more squiggers to kill
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>>554035375
So a new wormhole opens which will allow some crap to be interjected into the game. Actually never mind it is obvious. WE go through the wormhole to do the stupid stealth shit.
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>>554035407
Then why is it still on the map?
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>>554035407
it's was razed, not destroyed
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>>554035973
>floating ball of magma
>um, actually, it was *razed*, not destroyed, ok?
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>>554035810
>>554035824
I see. What about the planet choices? From what I gather the bots are the only resonable choice?
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>>554036113
brother there was a MO to bring back plants to mars
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>>554036169
It was Pilestedt V and the other shitty planets in the next sector over.
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>omw to cast my vote (it doesn't matter)
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>>554036156
we were automatically given the squid planet (railroad option)
the bug planet is a hive world which in theory makes sense but narratively it's fuel for the death star
the bot planet is a logistics target but not so much so that it changes the game completely, we could get a little closer to their home world

Regardless of our choice, we're getting "punished" with a squid invasion because we shouldn't have done the thing that they want us to do
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botchads stay winning
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>>554036436
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Bot chuds confirmed the only true gamers who actually understand what's going on
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Didn't Lesath win with 90%? idgi
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We should keep on voting for the destruction of bot planets so the bot trannies can fuck off from this general forever
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>>554036436
this actually seems quite tasteful, the boobs could look better though
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>>554034030
DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS
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Just realized the implication of turning the planets in "black holes" that are actually wormholes
>If we blow up the bot planet the cyborgs from HD1 come through and get released
>If we blow up the squid planet the cooler HD1 squid cultist units come through and get released
>If we blow up the bug planet then taking the surrounded Omicron hive world becomes the next MO
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>>554036436
Built for BBC (Big Bug Cock)
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>>554029172
I really don't get why any of these can't be added to the standard rotation
>Platinum missions
Just say the bots have vaults on other planets
>Hive world missions
Just treat them like bug cities or something, there might be a "local hive" on Crimsica or something
>TCS missions
Just say they made better chemicals or something
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>>554021642
>I TOLD that fucking autist a backpack minigun is a fucking stupid idea.
Do you work for arrowhead
>STUPID CHUD STOP ASKING FOR FUN WEAPONS
>*makes weapon shit on purpose*
>HAHA FEEL STUPID NOW? THIS IS A GRUNT FANTASY SATIRE OF STUPID AMERICAN CHUDS LIKE YOU SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER AIIIEIEE
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>>554026167
2/4.
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>>554038329
It's not gonna be that deep. It may seem like they give us multiple choice but no matter where the black hole is gonna be, it will all lead to the same storyline
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>>554038329
>the crustacean bugs from hd1 aren't in the wormholes
sad
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>take maxigun
>bring PP armour for better handling
>crouch/prone to reduce recoil
>bring senator for hulks and only hulks
>have 3 stratagem slots for war/factory striders
wow imagine building complimentary loadouts instead of wanting 1 weapon to handle literally every enemy in the game
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>>554039486
I would join but the narcissist would think I'm following him around again
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>>554020824
>What compels them to do this?
Because the way they think about it is like this:
>Melee weapons are shit.
"Yeah. Of course they are. Why would you bring a knife to a gunfight? You'd die instantly."
>The minigun is completely unable to be fired while moving and its ammo is medium penetration.
"Of course you can't move while firing the minigun. That thing's recoil is so massive it would blast you on your ass the instant you lifted a foot up to try to move. And the gun would be way too heavy if it was loaded with the HMG's heavy penetrating ammo. Practically unusable!"
>The Epoch couldn't blow up a fucking shipping container door.
"Of course that support weapon can't do that. It's just shooting hot air at stuff!"

I call it Alexus Brain. It's a terminal illness.
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>>554026167
ggs i love piss
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>>554039708
I miss the old aerodynamic charger
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>>554026167
GGs.
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I have been running all reds recently. Kinda comfy. But we need more single explosion reds. Ops and 500kg arent enough. And we dont have orbital versio of 500kg.
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>Some retards actually voted for the squigger planet
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>>554041859
Spooling up my botnet to change this outcome
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>>554041812
Anti-tank reds just kinda suck in my opinion. If I have to kill 4 hulks a tank and a factory strider there's no ordnance out there that can help me.
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Wouldn't it be better to obscure the voting percentages for this one? The way it is now it's literally just mob mentality cause one planet has a higher percentage than the other one
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>equip Null Cypher for unmatched drip
>it's susceptible to the same Walk In Mud Helmet Gets Shitted Up bug that's been in the game since Truth Enforcers caeme out
>it's the even worse version where the whole armor gets covered in shit
Any and all dripdiving is rendered near fucking irellevant because this fucking bug hasn't been fixed and I'm frustratingly reminded of it every time I take the Inspector out for a spin and it immediately looks like it was thrown into a pigpen for three hours if I so much as dip a boot in mud.
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>>554041951
Against bots. You kinda need senator and thermite. Or find amr or railgun in map. There are always few around.
I would love if rocket's pods worked. Or railgun had lower cd
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>>554042187
Rocket pods being garbage for 2 years straight is a fucking travesty.
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>>554042327
Imagine if the patch that fixes them came out and their in-game explanation for them not working properly is
>Each rocket came pre-installed with proprietary aiming AI. These only kicked in after firing but firing was done by Eagle-1 before they are launched and the conflicting data fed into the targeting module resulted in their underwhelming performance.
Even in the far future: corporations can't help but shove dogshit AI into everything.
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>>554041859
They're the ones deserving it the most
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>>554041859
Less squids.
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isn't the precision strike pretty good?
good damage and low cooldown
and a small area that won't fuck over your team
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>>554021642
I have consistently cucked teammates that brought the minigun with just a grenade launcher (either one really, it doesn't fucking matter). I feel like in whatever role Arrowhead intended of the minigun, it's supposed to be only used in holding down area and that's it. If you're using the minigun with the intention of it being your main and only support weapon in a mission then it's complete garbage. But if you use it as a second support weapon you call in to hold a flag or on bricks it's not as terrible. It's HMG manned turret but more mobile, less prone to getting cucked by stratagem bounce, and with shittier penetration.
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>>554042816
it is if you can hit it. it really suffers when being slowed down like when there's orbital fluctuations, or in the cities.
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>>554042816
no, it's just a 70 seconds grenade
its only use is blowing up infrastructure without hassle
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>>554042816
Yes.
It's reliable, cheap AT + hole/fab closer on a decently fast cooldown.
You'll eventually find that much of the Level 1 stratagems (MMG, OPS, EAT, Eagle strafing run) range from decent to excellent. Not a single one is bad.
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>>554041812
>Kinda comfy.
>Plays DDR and then sits in the cuck chair as he watches the orbies and Eagle-1 play the videogame for him.
>Comfy.
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>>554041859
I'm more impressed that the amount of sentient enough bugtards to vote is about the same as the amount of people that even play on the ayyfront to vote for this choice.
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>>554043056
I like to watch.
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>>554043056
>cuck chair
>one of the single highest damage sources in the game
>can atomize anything within line of sight as he pleases
>Can at any time rape any enemy in sight
Y'know I never get these naming conventions
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>>554042715
that's not what will happen
all choices lead to more squids
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>>554042140
Yes. In a fair vote that you don't want getting fucked by the "I don't want my vote to be worthless, so I only vote in what has the highest votes" type of voters, you would obscure the totals until the votes where closed. But in true swigger fashion, they didn't think about that sort of shit at all.
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>>554043438
It is ridiculously strong,
I wish they buffed the MG turret to make it a more viable pick vs the AT turret
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>>554043438
Follow the context. Original poster said he ran all reds. I wasn't implying the anti-tank emplacement - that's a green stratagem - I was implying the normal, always one in each hotel room, cuck chair. Cuckbuild is all reds/greens that aren't manned, though.And guard dogs without support weapons, because all the support weapons other than the Spear with its lock on require you to actually play the videogame to utilize them.
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has anyone experimented with running no support weapon and relying on scavenging?
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>>554041859
>let's nuke some useless bot planet that doesn't do shit instead of a fucking HIVE WORLD
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>>554044212
no, anon, this game has been out for two years but you're the pioneer in this line of thought
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>>554041951
Eagle Airstrike deals with all them pretty well
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>>554043931
Yeah i understand. Just that when posters refer to "the cuck chair" they're talking about the manned AT emplacement since it's the only strat with a seat.
A chair. A cuck chair.

And just about nothing about it remotely says cuck about it in my eyes since the Manned AT Helldiver rapes as he pleases.
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>>554044250
Bugtards were too incompetent to take Nivel 43 in time, plus most of them don't even vote
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>>554044250
sorry chuddy! xe actually complete our MOs unlike you bugnoozies
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>>554044250
WE NEED MORE SUPER OIL
DO NOT WASTE OIL
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>>554044212
I do this on squid missions and pick up EATs and MG from POI

it can be fun from time to time
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Lemme guess, after this MO is done, we gotta defend Penta from bot attacks for an entire week while farming the last bit of necessary E-711
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>>554043931
>you are playing the game wrong
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>>554044894
Bot cities
I wake up and smell the endless dust
I love bot cities
I drop into an intersection of 2 jammers and 3 command bunkers and a detector tower
I love bot cities
I round a corner, a tank glitched into a skyscraper turns me into a pink mist
I love bot cities
I shoot a trooper, another one two blocks away calls in a bot drop, they all land on top of the sky line and die falling to the ground
I love bot cities
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>>554042816
The whole problem is that you can't use it to kill heavies without a heavy stun complement, or tossing it at them unaware. Heavy HP got massively buffed in the 60 day patches, and a 1000 damage explosion is not a guarantee anymore since you need the 3500 damage from the impact as well.

Two things need to happen with OPS: reduction of cooldown to 70-ish seconds so that total cooldown at max upgrade is around 1 minute, and the attack has to follow the beacon like with hellpod calldowns. So if you stick the ball to a heavy, it will attempt to actually shoot the heavy.
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>>554044894
Nope. Patch will drop next week. It's will change the course. Most likely squid MO
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>>554044894
And the next one will be "UMMM WELL BECAUSE YOU BLEW UP PENTA, THE ISOLATED BOT PLANET WAS FREE TO BUILD THIS SUPER DANGEROUS HENTAI RAPE MACHINE AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT SO HAVE -75% AMMO AND 3X LONGER EXTRACTIONS!!!!!"
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>>554045180
You know the swedes, they'll make us do the tedious shit first before they slowly feed us new content
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>>554044994
>playing the game
You're not even doing that, though. That's literally the point.
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>>554045195
They are building deathstar.
Bots will blow up creek as retaliation
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>>554045103
>tfw terminalmontage had the most faithful portrayal of bots
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>>554045327
That's how autistic person sees the world
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>>554045339
>reddit creek gone
On the one hand I do miss fighting on it.
On the other hand the weeping of Redditards will fuel the hatred in my charred soul.
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>swedes ominously warn of casualties and unexpected damage because we didn't get enough fuel for the ultimate piss laser
>their favorite mystical item is the monkey's paw, curling ominously
dss will be down for a week after this (if it doesn't outright explode) with all 3 factions raping us while everyone plays with the stealth warbrond (stealth missions won't be added until the anniversary)
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>>554045985
don't care because I know I'm not dead weight
want my moon-like planets back and if that means the fronts get pushed back to them then so be it
lemme farm in peace
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>>554045985
Yeah just like the meridia blockade, right?
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guys I went to the gas station and asked for $30 of E-711 for my car and the cashier looked at me funny and I now I'm sad
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>>554046349
Based and moonpilled.
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>>554046486
>and I now I'm sad
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>>554045985
>don't get enough fuel to make laser work
>for some reason this makes it more dangerous?
Wouldn't it just stop firing when it runs out of gas lmao
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The only voting I’ll do is a one-man election on whether or not to vaporize myself with a hellbomb in the middle of a bot drop. (I’m going to)
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>>554046728
Delete the DSS entirely.
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>>554046728
cut the guy some slack, he's not having a good day
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I only wear the Groundbreaker armor and I never, ever switch off it.
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>>554047051
I wear thematic armor for each location I go to
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>>554047051
okay trenchie
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Lobby doko
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>>554047051
Same, but I wear Righteous. Punishing enemies that kill me in melee with my exploding corpse is too good, and looking like a half-assed cosplay of some shitty comic book character dropped into robot hell is funny. Plus I get six drone grenades.
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>>553990663
Nice work anon, seafchan a cute
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>>554047634
Seekers are hot garbage because they auto-lock to just about anything. They shouldn't do that until you're low on health or if you throw out another one to signal that you need to send them out fast.
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>>554046728
Um it's just dark fluid bullshit okay?
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>>553990663
Please Anon draw Eagle
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>>554047798
Just tag your targets, dude. Those little guys are a godsend for taking out gunships and softening up heavy devs.
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>>554048070
Regularly do but once every 4 or so one just decides to fly off and chase an enemy I didn't mark and am not even endagered by. Mixing the tagging system with the automatic sentries and drones would be really neat but God if I trust AH to do it.
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>>554046728
that would be too logical
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>>554044250
waste of E-711
meanwhile blowing up the bot planet gives us permanent access to Merak
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Reminder that max0r promised he'd make a second video once the squids are added

Hope you're looking toward the degradation of this general's quality
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>>554048383
Weird, I’ve never had that happen. They’re so reliable for me that I take nothing else, but I’m almost always the host or fucking around on solo, so maybe that helps their performance for me.
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>>554045339
>think this is a meme
>realize the incineration corps has been sitting on the western border for no reason
>they're probably getting ready to blitz for the creek again
Oh fuck
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>>554048627
like thats even possible
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>>554049694
it's fine I'm sure they are only in Charon Prime for vacations
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>>554042327
>be initial version of Rocket Pods
>okay-ish damage, good tracking, and capable of easily oneshotting turrets and tanks without needing to be precise
>after redditors spent 6 months complaining about them not oneshotting BTs, Arrowhead decides to buff them
>Rocket pods now deal "more consistent" (in reality, their damage was halved) and given "more consistent" (a bit better at hitting a moving charger, worse at everything else), now it struggles to hit anything above ground level
>the 60 Day Patch arrives, with a buff
>Rocket Pods have their damage increased, but effectively still do half damage as compared to before, targeting feels even worse, practically unusable
It's a fucking travesty.
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>>554050049
shit, "more consistent damage" and "more consistent tracking", how did I cut that out
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>>554048627
I hate what his videos have become.
They're just a compilation of 300 AfterEffects filters and Reddit memes now.
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>>554050049
It still reliably one-shots turrets and Fabricators. The problem with it right now is that it needs better seeking range and certain "heavies" like Alpha Commanders and Rocket Striders need to stop being classified as heavy.
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>>554048627
I watched his metal gear rising video and I do not know how needing to pause the video every three seconds to see the, "joke," is entertaining.
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literal who?
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>>554050049
>okay-ish damage, good tracking
Why can't you just stop lying?
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>>554050475
It can reliably oneshot them, of course. But whatever Arrowhead did to their tracking completely fucked up their ability to hit anything higher than floor level.
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>>554048627
the quality of his stuff went waaaaaay down after the first few videos. It's baffling.
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>That fag that kept spamming
>'Yes... The devs did this basic detail' Helldiver videos getting eaten alive by redditors
Lol
Lmao
Also we haven't fired this yet, why is the TV saying we did?
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>>554051070
>>554051070
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>>554051069
I fucking hate that guy so god damn much. Thank God Youtube gives us the ability to just block content creators that create slop videos like theirs with the same old "Yes, you can do this..." garbage for the nth time because their life depends on Youtube clicks.
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>>554051417
I do not click on any youtube video that does not say what the video is about in the title. Refusing to put that detail in the video or even description is a clear sign that your video exists to clickbait and that you do not actually care about what you are talking about.
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>>554051069
>test fire =/= planet shot
u wouldnt test fire a gun at ur target first thing bro
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>>554051069
>>554051417
What sloptuber are you talking about
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>>554046917
I really want them to eventually add indoor fights in outerspace like boarding the DSS to protect it from infiltrators



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