Eyes - EditionPrevious thread: >>553826240>Official sitehttps://warthunder.com/>Fan created contenthttps://live.warthunder.com/>Wiki with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanicshttps://wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Tech trees with foldered vehicleshttps://static.warthunder.com/upload/files/widgets/trees_en.html>Old forums archive:https://pastebin.com/EyMhsLAJ>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEChttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020>Guides on missiles, radars, radar warning receivershttps://youtu.be/Weghk_2DpfAhttps://youtu.be/_tQ6JzPWEFUhttps://youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQhttps://youtu.be/wAtTS8xSYEc>Guides on how to evade missiles and survive top tier:https://youtu.be/AsmGiyODPuMhttps://youtu.be/vUJJ94NwH_ghttps://youtu.be/NbKcAdLoWDk >Guided weapons statisticshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78>What tanks have thermals and their generationshttps://thunderview.net/thermals/>Someone sending you runes?https://translate.yandex.com/ocrReminder: catchTheme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9at6UZB4H8
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>>553826240
>>554035672It works in the F-15E. Has a better radar of course, but the F-14As can't be that shitty?
>>554035829bububu
catch!
>>553927213Armata was only shit because they couldn't make it in decent numbers that worked.look at how good terminators are in the gameI wonder if Armata will have even better armor than BVM now
The BP update, where is it?
>>554035639HDN radar mode specifically requires the target to be flying towards you for the radar to be able to see italso the migs in the testing range arent very good for testing radars
>>554036076slavs dont work on fridays, weekends, or mondaysBP ends wednesday, so tuesday is when you'll get a blog
fuck happened here?
>>554036298Probably a poor example, I cycled through every mode available. I did so in the match too, and I was only able to lock an Su-25 in SRC mode when I got within 5 fucking km of it. TWS wasn't picking up shit, despite high closure rate.
>>554036056More produced since 2021 than Sweden made Leopards since 1994.
>Omae wa mou shindeiru
>>554036659you should be picking up targets basically from the very start of a matchdont cycle modes just leave it on TWS HDNuse the 93km radar scope scalepoint your plane or radar if you move it manually at where the enemies spawn from and just wait for the radar targets to appear
Can gaijin please remove the "muh spall" british cope from HESH so it behaves just like High Explosive so it does not bug out because of the krok code? I would rather have my hesh overpressure someones roof rather than "pen" and orange his breech because gaijin cant bother to have it do both
>>554037367Oh, probably should've said that, it was a GRB match. I was trying to lock an Su-25 just cruising around at ~3 km altitude. I spotted it visually from 20 km away and couldn't get a lock in TWS at all. Kinda rage switched through the modes as I got closer and was eventually able to pick it up in SRC for some reason.Played another match just now and didn't have a problem locking shit. I don't get what was going on that match.
>>554038105there's a very minor change the guy disconnectedhis aircraft loses rcs and heat signatures until he rejoins
i never have to play with chinese people in night battles againyippee
>>554038536Maybe, he wasn't maneuvering at all. Didn't think of that.
Hello everyone
Why are premiums in a hanger but tech tree vehicles outside?
>>554040117
vftf?
Excuse me, wehre's the new vehicles?
>4x4 km tunisia>0 kills with spikes
>>554040514sunsetting the game in 5 days and closing servers
>>554040491Anything propslop.
>>554040301
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>>554041819thats just a tech tree tank
>>554041819pass
>>554041907I don't get it either, what even is the difference?
>>554041819no thanks
>>554041907>>554042017A variant of the tank equipped with an Arena family active protection system was demonstrated at the RAE-2013 exhibition in Nizhny Tagil.
>>554042236so it's the B3 with the arena on as demonstrator instead of the B3A where its fully integrated?So in the end identical?
>>554041907>>554042017This is the expo/demo model, base B3 with Arena slapped on it, so basically B3A minus the engine upgrade.
>>554042639ah alright thenprobably will be the same BR right?
>>554041819whathave they genuinely ran out of tanks or what
>>554041819>burnt out from event after event>"have another one lol">"45k points per stage btw"
>>554042956It has 840 instead of 1130 HP. A 25% reduction in HP for APS, compared to the 11.7 tech tree B3. This thing should unironically be 11.0 or at least 3, but it'll probably be higher.
>>554043637nah, just lazinessand they know just how fucking FOMO-fried the brains of their customers are, and this is ''''unique and interesting'''' enough to get them to pull their wallets
>>554044159>>55404295611.3 is my betdrozd t-80 is 11.7 but t-80u is so much better than the t-72b3 it's not even funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnd9fcgEuaw>talk about the M1E3 with some US Army Colonel>talks about gaming and mentions war thunder (~9:00)
>>554041819Is this a thing so fags that bought the BMPT72 can have something else to spawn with? Also because it requires basically no work on Gaijin's part?
>>554044696>Is this a thing so fags that bought the BMPT72 can have something else to spawn with?ding ding ding dingyou are winner
I hope the battlepass is at least fun
>>554045145lend lease plane (rus)pakistani (formerly indian) amx13 (chi)
>>554045518>lend lease plane (rus)what even is there left from that category
>>554045652Mossie.
>>554045652mustang (they got a few early ones) and mosquito (they trialed(and crashed) one)or ye olde [figher ace]'s version of something we already have
>>554045518Why not add the VL Myrsky, it's the only finnish jet to be made in large numbers and that saw combat, but for some reason we only have the VL Pyörremyrsky prototype>>554045652AT-6 maybe? It's a trainer aircraft though
>>554046136I could see that but holy fucking shit we've gotten like three low tier mustangs in the bp alreadymosquito is extremely plausible though, but with the free award being an aircraft - prior to the last season's boat - I'd see the free prize being a tank in this one
>>554046167It's already in game. Also>jet
>>554046167>jet meant to say fighter
>>554046167Myrsky was an event plane like five years ago.
>>554046269it's easy to forget that the free reward can also be something completely amazing, like the T55E1
>>554046468t55e1 was paid, no?itp was the freebie of that one
T-72 Ural as paid reward.
>>554046304>>554046371>only production fighter finland ever made>premium event vehiclefuck off
>>554046573You may be right, but then it was the low tier reward. The high tier one was the Cent Mk 5/1.It's sometimes in the random BP crates now.
>>554046685It's Swedens tech tree, not Finlands.
>>554046685you're not missing out on anything special, at least
>>554041819White enough.
>>55404462711.3 sound about right, specially if they want to increase engagement and sales as that'd put it right in the BMP-T territory for a fuller line up.
In for what?
>>554042017It was in the files when the TT tank was addedI think it just has different ERA and a different number of Arena charges
>>554041819>more commieslopis this even worth grinding with my ka chi
>>554049216lolI didn't even notice the NASAMS 3
>>554049641wat
grinding in this game is so fundamentally flawed like its genuinely bafflingif you play the BR you like, you will never ever ever finish a tree, there's no logic, its gatekeeping high tier for no reason, don't see nearly enough complaining about this
>>554050118oh yeah and its invalidatred by premiums being a thingyou can't gatekeep if you let people buy into it and veryone doesjust let people grind towards it in mid BR
>>554035872It's your pulse doppler filter on the F-14. It's HEADON pulse doppler, so it's tuned to be very sensitive towards detecting targets that are approaching you but it is absolute ass at detecting anything flying away from you. The headon PD on the F-14s and F-4S is bad enough at locking opponents from behind that you don't even need to carefully notch them. Instead you basically just need to turn around and go cold and the HDN PD filter will drop its spaghetti.The F-15E has a better PD filter that is more capable of detecting targets that are flying away from you. It's been a while since I've flown the tomcat. I think if you cycle radar modes, that it should have an ordinary SRC mode that will detect those targets just fine. However SRC doesn't have the bells and whistles of a TWS mode, and it is vulnerable to chaff and ground clutter.
>>554049748I guess I forgot about it
>>554050443damn
genuinely the worst feature in this entire shitty fucking game
>>554049452old datamine image of the event version
>>554036659>TWS wasn't picking up shit, despite high closure rate.I swear american pilots never understand that your closure rate doesn't matter WHATSOEVER to the PD filter. What matters is the rate that the TARGET is moving. It doesn't matter if you're standing still or traveling at mach-9000. What matters is if the target is approaching you or not. Because it's the radar filter that is looking at all of the returns, taking note of your own airspeed, and using the doppler effect to filter out returns that aren't approaching you.Yes you're flying at that Su-25 really fast. You're also flying at that mountain really fast. But neither the mountain or the notching Su-25 is approaching you, so the computer filters them both out.
>>554050397>>554051056Thanks, makes sense I suppose.
price predictions for le arena t72?
Stingers are surprisingly good, despite how much everyone's bitching about them not pulling enough G or whatnot
>>55405164620-25 gjn>point grinding event>tank event>not a very good vehicleits only saving grace is fitting into a bmpt lineup and being part of a very popular tree
>>55405164620 gjn holding for atleast a year
>>554051773They just depend on you giving a fuck about the angle of the target's flight path instead of mindlessly locking any bird and hitting the launch button. The bigger problem is how a lot of those IR missiles just shit the bed when you try to lock helicopters.
This thing should be at 7.3 max, more like 7.0
>>554051773we mainly hate stingers for helicopters having an artificially buffed IR signaturewhen you should be able to lock onto a helicopter from around 6-10km and the game only allowing it at like 2km
Best niggerbunker at 6.7?
>>554036463"yes, a hit!"
>>554052702jagdtiger
>>554051773They buffed the overload a while ago, now it's at least not hilariously trivial to avoid if launched with proper lead.
>>554052702T28
>>554052702T26E5
>>554050817>>554041907So, basically, it is 450.000 mission score for an APS (that is almost worthless at the BR it is) and a weaker engine?Gaijin... i kneel...
werf grabbing or nah?
>>554053454it ain't goin awayit's a good gokart but the lack of smokes and dogshit dart hampers it severely
>>554053454No.
>>554036661Euro supremacy in action.
>>554052314I don't get what kind of problems You're having with it, it turns pretty well, if it were lowered it would curb stomp. You just have to pick and choose your fights.
>>554053246no no it's not that dramaticit's only 405k points :D
>>554054285It doesn't turn well because you lose any speed you have and it takes, quite literally, 6 business days to get any energy back.
>>554053454Nope it's time has sadly passed. It has no smokes, a dogshit artificially gimped round and gets perma-uptiered to 10.3 niggerhell
>>554051646It's arguably going to be better than the T-80UM2 because it has thermals. That goes for like 60 bucks nowadays.But compared to the T-80UM2 it's not even remotely unique, and is just a worse version of an already mid, tech tree tankCan't see it going over 30 bucks ever unless they decide it should be a lower BR than the baseline T-72B3 because it doesn't have the same ERA upgrades. But that would be a bit ponderous because then it would also put it below the T-80UM2 which has a worse APS and no thermals.It's the most pointless event tank so far.
>>554053246>>554054429wait no its 8 stages for the tank so like 360k :D9th stage is a camo we cant see yet :D yippeei love mindless grinding yippee<<i just want a unique vehicle please>>
>>554053246You know you'll still grind it out.
>>554054720>9th stage is a camo we cant see yet :D yippeeit's just gonna be that ugly ass yellow-orange presentation camo they slap on most all of their vaporwave
>>554041819This is literally just market research. It's an experiment.I BET they going to put it at 11.3 or 11.7. This is because the BMPT-72 and they want to see how many people can be manipulated into grinding or buying it to pair it with babby's first OP tank without having to research the tree, or giving out the premium status for money that they'll potentially get from the marketplace.
>>554045145>AI portrait>AI decals>decorations you will never use>copy paste plane>some boat no one gives a fuck about>old random lootbox tank>another meaningless title
>>554054851yeah and the coupon too
>>554051646less than 20 coin
>>554036463spike thought it was a tow2b, many such cases
>>554052867
>>554055103it would be cool to have it be the orange ribbon on the sidebut then ukrop would cause a melty
bad network connection
>>554041819>45k per stagegaijin please....
>noooooo different nations cant play differently and cant have BRs where they are stronger or weaker, they have to have time travel slop and filler copy-pastes from other nations!!!KILL balancefags
>Mig-25 already at 35 This is going to be triple digits within a year. Economists do I sell my 292 and buy 5 Migs?
>>554057458>already at 35i sold it at 40 hour 1 of it being on sale and it dropped immediately after
the nasams sucks actually>missles always launch in iog mode>unless the enemy is a retard he can just slightly adjust course and dodge everything>missles lock onto ordnance instead of jets/helisthanks gaijin
China needs more wheeled ratcars
>>554041819>doesnt have cool eyes
>>554057458The nig25 is going up but don't sell the 292.The marketplace sheananigans you should have done was buying 10 EFV at 4gjn. That shit is 15gjn now.
>>554058289I never saw the EFV at 4, I bought one at 9 but that's because I kinda actually want it.
>>554055452Good man.
I kinda want XM1damn it talk me out of it
>>554057458i know I would like to have it cause its coolso I didnt bother grinding the couple and just REDEEM
>>554058674You'll regret it after post-nut clarity kicks in.
>>554058674it's waaay past it's heyday anon. mediocre round + NO smokes is agony with the constant 10.3 uptiers... if you got money to burn go for it but i would highly advise otherwise.
>>554058915>>554058928fuck
>>554059107best pray for a downtier lol
Give it a BR
>>554060010looking at the istpv leopard and m60-2k9.3?
>>554058674>>554059107It's fine. It's just not incredibly handheld like it used to be so that's probably why the other retards are kvetching so hard. M735 could be a little better but it's still a really good niggerkart that can reliably hit 80 kph. It's my favorite shekelmobile and most effective too.
>>554060362ah sweet! another shit bait from the residential contrarian poster again!
>>554060738
>>554060362>most effectivewould you post your stats in it?
>>554058507not as good as you, handsome
>>554061086I've played this piece of shit game on and off since release that's why it's only 1.3k kills.
>>554054720>9th stage is a camo we cant see yet :D yippeePretty sure it's going to be thisWhich is a GE camo for most Russian vehicles anyway
>>554058674It's 30$ (Or hopefully GJN) worth of GE for a low-ish rank, no pack vehicle. Play literally the Stingray to get the EXACT SAME experience.I wouldn't buy it even with the free unlimited GJN i have at that price for what it is
>XM-1 is backOh boy, now I have something to take into battle with my Clickbait. j/k, I have the KVT too.
>>554061406>780 spawns>692 deathsLMFAOOOOOOOO! i dread to see what your lesser effective "shekelmobile" stats are
tfw no pointers on how to improvewhenever i try to do anything i diethe most frustrating part is i dont even know where i mistepped, every game is the same
>>554062000but american has a lot of premium at 12.0 nowjust bring click bait, Kate, RDF, Comanche and AIM into battle now
>>554062186what are you even playing?
>>554062186don't worry, my average arb game looks the same
>>554058674>>554061945Let me correct myself: for a worse experienceXM1 gets M735, arguably one of the worst round in the fucking game. An APFSDS that has lesser pen than the fucking M60 APDS.I remember playing it on the Type16 some years ago, it was literal cock and ball torture. They fixed the Type16 giving it a more competent APFSDS luckily.At the same time, the stingray gets the DM33 and the C76 on the same gun, with the same reload. And they both play the same.
>>554062186what are you flying and have you researched all the modifications for it?
>>554061449>Which is a GE camo for most Russian vehicles anywaynvm. I checked, and the the GE version is slightly different colours, without the brown/purple. So they can still sell this one for 200 golden birdiesThat's photo is definitely going to be the event bonus camo.
>>554062805>>554062382grippy c, its spaded but mostly from base bombing and ground cap
heh>>554063127Have you watched some top tier tutorials?
>shit@jets>vent my frustration by sealclubbing in 3.7 groundhave I reached endgame now
>>554036463War is hell
>dude notching is easy just keep the missile at 9 or 3 o clockI have done that. I kept M23 on my RWR at 3 o clock. I dropped chaff. It achieved nothing.I don't know how to notch. There's no in game tutorial. I don't play arb above ~10-11 because of this.
>>554066891>r-24r>iog>it keeps following your predicted path it calculated lastyou need to change altitude too retard
>>554063127The trick with current top tier is how fast you can notch missiles. There is a clip about how to dodge close-range shots; I think it’s pretty neat, and you should learn how to do it the way he does.When attacking, try to shoot more than one missile at a target because by now most people already knows how to dodge a lazy single launchShoot 2+ missiles, all from different positions, timings, and angles.If you are close enough, maybe even throw in IRCCM IR missiles, too.This isn't 2025 you can't just turn 90 degrees, "go cold," and fly straight until MISSILE EVADED pop up anymore.Spaceclimb niggers with dozen missiles will just chase you down and throw 3–4 more from different angles.Pathfinder is basically near useless at top tier too, because there are many missilebus players orbiting.and with how everyone has AESA now, it’s hard to even try to stay low to get into dog fight range, which make grippen kinda bad in current meta Rafale is basically gripen but better in single everyway
okay I'm starting to see why 8.3 is supposedly awful>9.0 / 9.3 matches 90% (100%?) of the time>the few 8.3s are xm246 or some other horseshit hunting everything that isn't a plane>dude helicopters lmao
>>5540685109.0 is the last BR where you can have fun before you get black holed into 10.3 premium hellscapeso many people play at 9.0
>>5540685108.3 is actually not too badcause its when all the tank get laser range finder and stab8.0 is in much much worse spotanything you see (outside of T-72) can be deal with in 8.3 tanks
>can't lock even if gunsight is directly pointing at target>can't fire if locked>if fired decides to fuck off and hit random objects>if if hits RNG on whether it does any damageOne of the worst experiences in WT.How would you balance Spikes?
How the fuck does a SARH guided RB71 from a JA37C track an F5-C thats flying 75m off the ground? When I try to play something that has radar guided missiles they won't lock a goddamn thing that the ground is even in the forefront of.I hate this fucking game.
>Avionic system damaged
>>554063127Pretty much what other people have said.Additionally, fly a better plane.The Gripen C is probably one of the worst planes at it's BR so you either want to go play the Gripen A or unlock the Gripen E.
>>554069437>75mthat's too high to multipath missiles from any angle (and yes angle matters for multipathing) The JA37C also has a great radar for it's BR which allows him to get a lock on you where other AIM7E slingers like the F4E wouldnt be able to.
top tier air feels worse than usualcan at most get a single kill. enemy teams just get completely gutted by my teamare they all just burnt out but never took a break?
>>554070068also are amraams supposed to just lose lock even if the guy is still pointed like 10 degrees towards your plane and does no evasive maneauvers?
they should train dogs to pilot the tanks
How do I fly the Mig-25? My radar seems to never want to lock even if I swap between IRST to radar.
I'm tired of aral sea
Can any britbong mains explain to me the use case of the comet tank? i feel like the avenger does everything the comet does but better
>>554071093What missile? The radar on it is kind of ass so you'll really only get reliable locks if they aren't too below you for the RD, the TD on the other hand just lob em down from outer space on distracted enemies
>>554071234It's almost like the hastily put together a bunch of different tanks with limited resources in a desperate attempt to win the war, without thinking of how they'd be implemented in a F2P pidor fantasy game 70 years later.
stylin' on missilefags yee haw
>>554071234It has a bit more armor (no, it won't save you from anything but SPAA), and an APDS shell you don't need.
>>554071706I'm running 1 RD, 2 TD and 2 60M'sSo I should climb to 10km going mach 1.5-2 then try to lock people with irst below with TD's?I swear the enemy could be right infront of me and that fucking radar will not lock.
>>554062058>posts a retarded pepe instead of its statsEvery time. inb4 you post some bloated screencap which will inevitably turn out to be edited.
>>554072139that would have missed you if you kept driving straight
How do i put anthro girls on my tanks?
>>554071234it actually had a decent armor and reload but a*ton felt it was too racist so he nerfed both of those AND increased it's br
>>554073243By delivering some lead at supersonic speeds into your temporal lobe.
>>554071234it's for a scenario where you:1) go fast to get into a position that only exposes your turret2) snipe with AP + APDS, so the slow reload doesn't get you killedit's pretty good then and extremely annoying otherwise, why doesn't Gaijin just reverse that years old reload speed nerf is beyond me
>>554072336I run 2 RD's and 2 TD's, I usually only climb to 6km - 7km honestly, any higher feels pointless. I use the RD's against other MiG-25's or other planes that fly at that altitude, trying to save my team from rockets from space, the radar works pretty well at that altitude as long its a clear sky and all that, when using an RD at lower altitudes I try to switch to the verticle radar to 'lock' then switch to the normal radar to really lock and lob a missile but this is pretty unreliable but it's gotten me some killsThe TD's are IR so you don't need to radar lock at all, just need to get the seeker on target
>play 11.0>only uptiered to 12.0>play 12.0>only uptiered into 13.0>play 13.0>only uptiered into 14.0>play 14.0>only uptiered into 15.0>play 15.0>only uptiered into 16.0when do i get to be the uptier?
>>554074772Only 4 people per team in a match are allowed to be in a full downtier. What this means is that it's far less likely for any one particularl player to end up in that lucky 4 so most of your matches where you aren't part of it are uptiers.
>>554075275the problem is that once you hit these battleratings the compression makes it that you're fighting planes that are .3 or .7 away but should be further away due to the evil ass compressionthere are so many planes that just shouldn't be fighting one another at these battleratings
>>554073007but it wouldnt have been nearly as stylish
>>554074772
>>554075275>full downtierit's your tier, and you better carry that shit
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