pro offlaners give us support players some tips to be the best offlaners we can be we gotta expand are bag work

phoenix has got to be the hero that has the most dedicated virgin spammers in the game
people always have either 10 or 5000 phoenix games, there's no in between

>>554083903
phoenix can't be a virgin because she can lay an egg

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Buff Hoodwink

>>554083903
Someone's salty about getting fire spirited to death, I see.

>enemy pos1
>clinkz
>our pos1
>picks lifestealer
time to go waste 40 minutes

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alive game

BRRR

Drawfags?

>>554085518
Murderkilled to death

>>554083903
Visage and earth spirit are worse

>>554085894
Both Visage and Earth Spirit are heroes with clearly defined roles and playstyles and require at least a modicum of intelligence to play. They are also strong no matter what you change, because they are unique in what they do.
So it makes sense people play these heroes a lot

>>554082461
this fucking redditor

>>554083463
the ez way:
pick big tanky blink initiator, farm until blink, initiate, die, repeat
if feed blame pos 4, hes most likely griefing you anyway
the fun way:
play 100 games of visage/broodmother/whatever other cheese pick and make the enemy's carry life hell

>>554083463
put willow zeus lion dazzle in your ban list

enemy just rage abandoned like 3 mins before they lost

>>554083903
I'm an ex Phoenix main and I have over 56% winrate with her, which is a lot given the amount of games I've played as phoenix.

>>554085072
36 minutes wasted
lifestealer fed as expected

rtz playlist on point for once

>top lane is hard feeding
>mid is feeding
>the other person in my lane is a drooling fucking moron that is squandering every kill opportunity I set up
tiring

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>nonstop ENEMY HAS VISION pings the entire game
>sentry the area
>fucking nothing
>every single time, there is literally nothing wherever the retarded cores tell me
>just start sentrying on my own instincts and find a bunch of obs that way, but literally never wherever the cores keep spam pinging
>check the replay to see if it was just outside sentry range or whatever
>absolutely fucking nothing
every single goddamn time, every single game

so i was wrong about the rtz stream: it's incredible to have running in the background while he's losing his mind and getting triggered over all the people he hates in eu pubs
this downward slide of 70 ranks over the past few days has been peak entertainment

>enemy team has zeus and/or slark
>enemy team is ahead and has complete map control
>my team is pinging that we have almost no wards on the map
what the fuck do they expect?

>>554083350
>last thread was less than 48 hours old before bump limit
ALIVE GAEM

USE retard here, I started playing on EUW about a month ago and games are definitely higher quality but I'm like 90% sure it isn't because EU players are "better", it's simply because there are like 2 or 3 smurfs in every single game without exception and they just elevate the game's skill level.
I've had ~5 matches in my last 10 where the mid matchup was Brood x Huskar or some cheese like that and they were both level <50.

Is k/d/a a good indicator of people's skill? Obviously not on support but on core roles

>>554092854
whats ur mmr bracket? theres a lot smurfs between 4.5-6k, not as much on other brackets

Hey there everybody! This is John Dota, from the lanes. Did you know? My favourite things are: BIinking into a lost fight, tangoes, water runes with no ice, the dota+ cosmetics, aaand bracer. See you in Dota 3 everybody!

>>554093405
Yeah I'm 5.2, I'm not a schizo who calls everyone a smurf but if a level 45 guy is playing Morph and going 12/0 in 15 minutes surely something isn't right

>>554092030
People still dont understand that you get ward control AFTER won fights.
That said, in fights you should place wards mid fight for better vision.

>>554093279
I mean it's a decent indicator, but it has to be taken into account along with other things to judge people's skill.
There's literally no world where going 1/10 or 10/0 as a core is bad, tho.

>>554093789
Going 1/10 is good or 10/0 is bad*

if i see a str morph offmid one more time

>>554094418
but topson

>dipshit in lane just fucking stands there with skills off CD while enemy with about 70HP gets away and I die
>say nothing
>fast forward to reverse of that situation
>intentionally do the same dumb shit he did
>cunt bitches at me in chat for not helping
Further evidence that these NPCs are not self aware.

is anyone else facinated by the lore explanations of the skills
they are so cool
like take venge for example

>A simple Skywrath technique, the magic missile is Shendel's primary tool for vengeance.
so fucking cool
and then nether swap which usually kills venge
>Martyrdom is a small price to pay for vengeance.
SO FUCKING COOL makes complete sense
wtf

but my favorite has to be sun ray from phoenix
>The vent through which such stellar energy flows is mere atoms wide.
UGH

>>554093279
No?

>>554093789
If the enemy wants you dead, you're dead. The issue is - do they win the teamfight afterwards? If you're a Zeus, and you psy-op'd the enemy into building multiple pipes, shrouds, mage slayers and glimmers, while the rest of your team's damage is physical, and the enemy always kills you and loses everything, that's a win, and skill.

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as much as I dislike this game, the one i have been playing instead is an absolute faggoty coin flip nonsense faggot game that i have grown to despise with every cell in my body.

>>554094914
>Tech Bonus
>2000pts
Something tells me it isn't chess you've been playing.

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>>554095059
the ultimate midwit game that gets praised and shilled for being high intelligence when its extremely low intelligence

>>554085246
this isn't real right

marci is unbalanced

is marci even good now? pos 4?

marci will not get any kills past minute 20 btw

name 1 thing marci is good for thats right u cant

marci is good for me

phylactery marci

pos3 marci (18 deaths at twentyfive minute mark)

>>554094609
The difference between the old and new (7.00+) flavor texts is insane. They're an excellent example of what separates good and bad writing.
Reminder that Grimstroke has a whole ass essay of text under his ult description but literally nobody even remembers that he has lore.

>>554097343
>Tiara!

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Just uninstalled
biggest piece of dogshit game ever concived
I wanted to like it but mope
its just litrerally no a playable game
0 reason to waste my life on somehting that actively hates me
cya in 3 years when the game goes eos and gaben adds literal porn to keep it afloat

>>554097661
See you next week.

>>554097661
remember not to disconnect your phone number too many times

>>554097787
I completely fucking forgot that you had to put your number in to play ranked its been so long

>>554076376
Thank you for posting this I remember kicking myself for not saving this stream myself. Despite what he says in the video I think he did delete this vod right after it ended

im a homosexual gay man what is the hero for me

phylactery slardar

>>554098732
rubick

i rage-reported all 9 people in the lobby
will i lose behavior score

>>554086049
no one plays those heroes retard ai bot

>>554099232
it's over for you, shadow pool inc

i played my first game in 7 years and lost
what the fuck do i do now

>>554099661
uninstall its literally only downhilll from there

>you are put into players who are similar to you in all meaningful metrics
how would you feel

>>554099661
I've been at the same crossroads for a while but now it's time to narrow down to my best heroes which is 90% meme shit and be more serious no motion wasted last time i tried this was end of June and it worked wonders i used to get up at 5 am to run and just play maybe a good 3-4 games a week but fully lock in and just make sure on my end there was very little to complain about this is what gave me more satisfaction than winning because i knew im already a winner im the win im the W all around and now the stupid holidays are over where you could loosen up and do cocaine and booze up like a champ all that shit is weakness its time to forget the weakness and be strong just hope i dont get hit by a car or a lightning.

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>>554100345
loser lol

>>554100175
i was mid match when i wrote this so its in retardese but u can infer what i meant

>>554100175
>i'll get players who can go 30-3
awesome, yes please.

you start to understand why chinks cheat at every game when you have to play with chinks who aren't cheating

>>554099232
your reports will be worth nothing if you keep it up

>old map pre vision shrines and giant sentry
>tens of great ward spots that arent immediately obvious and some on great choke points
>new map
>like 3 ward spots that aren't in generic sentry ward ranges
yeah nice

>>554101075
i don't intend to keep it up, i hardly ever report on this game.
it was a moment of weakness. i made the mistake of queueing when i was already tilted from a previous match.

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Think it's time to get back to my roots

Seems weird valve keeps the role queue priority on the client side and has to update the game to change it. Shouldn't it be a server side thing they can tweak on the back end? Because the priorities would change more than they would update. Nuvalve coding is weird. Gabe would never approve that kind of fuckery.

>>554101803
ur gonna play rooftrellen?

>>554102291
Remember when i was 0-9 with sand king and did like 27 straight wins

Clinkz 4 or Sniper 4?

>>554102832
sniper 4

i feel like arteezy and topson go 5-10 every day how are they not like 10k mmr

>>554102832
what about a real 4

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-1 day on a dotard's life

How many people do you lads think play dota religiously but are completely bored of the game and dont want to play it anymore.

I'm starting to think they have to change the role queue system to be more like League's... Just put someone on "auto fill" every once in a while, the current system isn't healthy. Cores literally just grief games when they're not on their roles.

just like never be out of position ???

>>554106478
That used to be me for 2+ years but I made the mistake of coming back

>>554106482
blow it out your ass

role maining is fucking awful i wish it wasnt a thing

>>554107052
theres nothing wrong with specialization, id rather have john "mid picker" middlelane on my team every game than a half-baked jack of all trades

love meepo, me

>>554106482
i had 3 pudges and 1 tiny as my pos5 supports today
i legitimately dont understand why they do this, you can just pick some braindead support like warlock witch doctor jakiro or whatever they are literally all braindead heroes and stomp the lane

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>>554104962
we doomqueing

just played drow mid
i didn't get any commends

>>554091930
he's gone 4-12 and is flaming literally everyone
it's the best stream i've ever watched and i was around to see gorgc go 1-12

shartrsqueezy crashing out lmao

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>play enchantress offlane
>enemy carry's first item is this
it never gets old

Jimmy 'DeMoN' Ho

>>554111167
>>play enchantress offlane
hopefully you kill yourself

>>554111357
he's daytrading i think
dota to stonks pipeline israel

>>554111672
i think the most logical step for guys who spent the entire day staring at a screen is to go into forex and crypto and such. this way they dont really change lifestyle

>>554111167
just rush aghs and watch the drowgger cry about the 6 second undispellable root

im just gonna start spamming drow
im sick of putting in effort on characters that need to take risks to do damage

>>554111909
honestly i get it
dota is pretty much gambling from the matchmaking where you don't know what kind of animal teammates you get to the ingame stuff like where you farm and how you use your skills in teamfights
the difference now is how much you're wagering. daytrading is mostly break instead of "make" while dota's just playing a shitload of games for no return

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i only kill the enemy carry
>>554112606
extremely based

How do you guys know who to pick in all pick? I don’t know what role every character goes and people just lock their characters. I end up doing some troll shit picking a pos 3 when I should be pos 4 or a pos 5 like lion but I’m actually supposed to POs 4

can icefroggy revert the map changes
its too much to learn ;_:

I wish I could get back into dota, but having 3 kids between 0-4 makes it impossible to find a guaranteed hour of uninterrupted time

>>554115448
make them queue with you. same skill level as 80% of unranked stacks

>>554115448
What are you playing now do you even have time for games that’s one of my biggest fears, that besides money and health etc

>>554111909
>>554112897
I have two IRL friends that went full into crypto/daytrading during the pandemic. One of them hit the fucking jackpot during the NFT game boom, he made like 500k from that shit. Then the fucking retard actually believed that it wasn't a pyramid and put his money back into NFTs, he lost pretty much all of it.
The other one quit his job to be a daytrader (he was a junior dev) and I don't think he's doing very well. I haven't talked to him in a while, but last time I met him he just didn't look okay.
Moral of the story is: that's a bait for the vast majority of people. Even if you think you're autistic enough to be good at it, you're not, you just like playing video games and you're a bit awkward around people. That doesn't make you smarted than the average joe.

>>554117115
think about this for a second: pro players in dota share strats or study replays to figure out the metastrats which everyone else copies, right?
so these guys sort of going in blind into crypto/daytrading/forex and whatnot are gambling large amounts of money while being kept outside of the meta, while there are actual people in these boardrooms or whatever fucking with the market to swing it their way and they are like their direct competition.
i think i read that 1-3% of traders actually make a return on it.

>bh drops
>get muted
>okay, go back tonplaying sporadically
>bh drops more
>okay? still continue playing once a every 1 to 2 weeks
>bh drops more
>still play unranked casually
Amazing system.

>>554117592
That's how it works, sadly. A lot of people think that because they have like a 120 slightly above average IQ and asperger's they'll make money from that shit if they put effort into it, chances are they won't.

>team is a four man stack
>they don't get any stuns
i hate this game

>>554117908
did you enjoy your 1v9 game?

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>finally test how Zeus's Static Field works, properly
>he's a Magic Lifestealer
>you just have to get Bloodstone and Brooch yourself
You know, that would've been very helpful to know earlier.

>>554117908
All 4 stacks assume their rando teammate will be their personal Lion bot. They will pretty much say so themselves.

>>554118698
it's always one really high mmr player on their team and the rest are shit that don't know what the fuck their doing and i have to do everything

>>554118698
i will never play a game with undisable-able stacks in matchmaking ever again

this tidehunter shard is so fucking stupid
it's like an ult-tier ability against mobility heroes

the meeting of legends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7VRHoHeOaQ

Anyone want to masturbate to Windranger arcana porn with me?

>pick support/offlane so I don't have to waste any tokens playing offlane
>get matched as support
fuck what do I do now

>>554122732
Play a scaling support like wr, wd, or lina

I've been playing a lot of Clinkz for a while now and it's kind of interesting to see how people have been learning how to play against him. I'm seeing supports get Ghost Scepters as their first item now, and they're almost always fully committing on me in every single teamfight (which is the right thing to do). The moment I show my face, 3 heroes blink on top of me.
The thing is, I just used Aghs and they used everything on me so my team wins the fight anyways and my skellies do like 3k damage by themselves

>>554123058
>just grief and role abuse
kill yourself

>mfw I quit this game 3 years ago and got married
I have faith that you will all find something better to devote your life to than a game that wants to charge $100 for a windrunner skin that gives her the remodel that should have happened with source 2.

thanks for the post married man, very cool

>enemy clearly is unskilled and just got fed a free lane, lead, and win by my retarded griefer mid
>report for smurfing anyways
hope you like having a fucked up queue faggot
maybe don't get lucky next time

>>554126320
the smurfing option does literally nothing, im 99% sure it's just placebo
i dont think it has ever done anything to me when i have smurfed in the past
should have reported him for cheating, and hopefully the overwatch reviewer understands he's smurfing and picks guilty

>>554116315
fighting games
still engaging but the time commitment is max 3-5 min in case someone needs me

phylactery tide

>>554115448
Don't do it. I was legend 1 years ago and now I calibrated at 1k mmr

>>554132272
extremely viable, unreported
though it does make agh a lot worse and i like tide agh

who was gonna tell me that magic shadow fiend doesnt even care about euls anymore he just buys travels kny blink aghs and truth nukes people without even needing the setup

>>554122732
>pos4
pick burst damage and try to tilt the enemy safe lane. skywrath techies etc
>pos5
pick shaman, die 11 times, push towers and torture faggots

if you don't know what item to buy first then rush an urn as soon as you have enough MS to not die

>die multiple times to secure kills for cores
>going to win
>cores throw late game
>talk about my deaths and say my feeding lost the match
Many such cases

>>554133863
euls was only mandatory on magic SF back when it was the best mana regen item in the game

>>554133863
Anon...

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the speedrun to crusader continues

>losing hard
>look at their carry
>wait who the fuck is their carry
>it's Mars
>win