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Visual Novel General #7390

This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/
E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:
1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help
4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL
5. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/
https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png
https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader

>Need a novel with a specific element?
https://vndb.org/g

>Download Links:
https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-links

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If your moege doesn't have hardcore sex scenes with the girls doing O-moans and ahegaos then I ain't interested in it.
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>>554247248
Don't forget the peace signs, hottest shit ever
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>>554247248
Don't forget rimjobs and piss drinking
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>>554247476
no
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I've a confession, /vn/, I have started another yuzuge (has been a while). This time it's dracu-riot. Which heroine from here did you like? I'm going after the secret route after I finish a regular route.
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What JOPge should I read next?
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>>554247573
Black sheep town
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read clochette oppaige
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>>554247573
Lessons in Love.
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I love Karen
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>>554246954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LPeQ8Onbio
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>>554247275
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>>554247223
>>554247882
Why are you spamming this these days
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>>554248071
nanairo was popular in /vn/ before the tourist invasion
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Jiggy in 5 mins
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>>554247718
That's for ascended(fallen) JOPs who don't care about izzat
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>>554248071
>this
Those are two different VNs, you fucking retard.
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Hopefully he doesn't post today too.
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>>554248390
You can't expect the no-image complainer to have actually read any VNs. That is not what he's here for.
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>>554248390
From the same kuso artist, spammed by the same retard.
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>>554248192
https://jigex.com/pzJra
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>>554248457
did he get the invite to zechcord or something lmao
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>>554248559
I hate tourists so much.
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>>554248736
>unironically using the word "tourist"
Go back.
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>>554247638
why is this shit suddenly getting spammed these days when it came out 13 months ago
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>>554247530
My favorite heroine was Sayo (I will never forgive kuzusoft)
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yo momma
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>>554248989
>tourist gets upset when called a tourist
KEEEEk
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>>554248989
Lmao the only kind of people who unironically use that term are fat neckbeards who turn media consooming into their very reason for existence
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>>554249103
It's currently all the buzz on the zoomer trooncords.
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sawa3 sang a silly song
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>>554249103
>>554249527
i just checked the cord and kastel finished reading it and moogy started reading it
it's all so predictable
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i said make that ass clap bitch
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>>554246954
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>>554249453
Exactly what a tourist would say wwww
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>>554249527
>>554249628
these type of people can't think for themselves. they just flock to whatever is the hype in their circlejerk
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>>554249119
Routelet due to that huge forehead?
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>>554249715
She killed millions.
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>>554249867
I'm fine being a tourist then

>>554249527
>>554249628
What is wrong with word of mouth hype? I heard some good things about it and it piqued my interest
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>>554248689
Finished in 20:21, thanks for joining
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>>554249103
barely any discussion besides 2 threads ago and apparently it's "getting spammed"
hmm...
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>>554248192
>>554248689
Why did you turn this into a regular thing faggot
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>>554249616
>that image
wtf is wrong with you
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>>554250957
"spam" in this context means "one (1) post that made me mad"
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we will be watching the best danganronpa trial that mogs manosoba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sToAKM1fl_M
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I literally just posted it for a peace sign image and look how mad it made him kek
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>>554251016
Mind your own business
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>>554250957
The tourist has been here for 3 threads at most.
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>>554251357
My fucking hero
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>>554251213
>Case 05
High kino
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>>554250957
Why is it suddenly getting brought up
Something is going on
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>Why are people bringing up visual novels in the visual novel general?
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>>554251685
She won
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>mfw someone posts a visual novel screenshot in the visual novel general
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>>554247882
I will never forgive Sekai Project
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>>554248736
I want to blow ropes of semen up her nose and have my sperm become a permanent resident in her sinuses.
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>>554252112
why???
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>>554249119
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Just replayed Little Busters for the first time since it was fanlated.
Some things weren't as good as I remembered. Some things were better than I remembered.
I love it.
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>>554252194
Because it is a man's romance to do that.
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>>554252283
Why does she look like a monkey now?
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>>554252283
fuck so hot
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>>554251923
That blonde is not the meido bro.
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>>554252721
Oh yeah?
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Nitroplus new ge when...
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>sakuuta is getting translated
>let's spam CGs and spoil eops
why are they like this
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>>554252861
hooooooooooooly
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massive sakuuta spoiler
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>>554253372
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>>554253372
looks like some tranny axewound than a pussy lmao have the artist seen one before?
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>>554253431
>>554253372
cordbros, he won't be posting tonight. we can pack things up and come back tomorrow.
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>>554253537
they prefer to draw futa more
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>>554253145
never they sold out to jewgames to make more gacha
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>>554253567
What in the fuck are you talking about
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>>554253736
you know what im talking about cordbro
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English mystery VNs on Steam from the past few years:
>Beyond R: Rule Ripper
>Birth ME Code
>Blankspace
>Bound Between Desks
>Clean Slate
>CORPSE FACTORY
>Decide 4 God (Out now in full 1.0)
>Detective Instinct: Farewell, My Beloved
>The Divine Deception
>Entropic Float: This World Will Decay And Disappear
>The Game of Fourtune
>Head AS Code (remake)
>Look Inside
>Methods: The Detective Competition
>The Price of Flesh
>Quantum Suicide
>Reaplaced
>Shards of Chaos
>The Specters Desire
>SYNESTHESIA
>The Zodiac Trial

English mystery VNs on Steam that are to-be-released:
>The Lost Delinquents of Rollings High
>NO MORE WORK FOR ITO
>Thief's Roulette (Jan 24)
>Ubel
>Underground22
>Whispering Memories (March 6)
>The Wonderland Killings
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>>554253736
>>554253431
Zech-dono, how were your sottaku reps?
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>>554253798
>cord
Oh, the monthly e-celeb off topic faggotry. No wonder I didn't understand; I filtered the eceleb names immediately. Now I understand.
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>>554253727
AI generated VN when
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>sakura no uta
just SOP it
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it's one thing if he just said something. he's just spamming random art from sakuuta so that it won't be as effective when we eops get to read it soon.
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I don't think I could read the sakuuta re-release. I liked the back half, but suffering through picapica again sounds very unfun.
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>>554254068
Amakano 3 is already out
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>>554253981
dekinai'd that
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>>554254259
He's a cord tranny
>>553779758
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>>554254005
i love how you pretend you don't post about the drama here on xitter
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>>554251213
I don’t think JOPs can handle Danganronpa since most of them already passed out just from the time-limit and quick-thinking sections in Manosaba due to reading like a baby
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>>554254259
I think anti-JOP spammers are just retarded spammers but this is like the only legitimate grievance from their side. This dude really just posts them without any rhyme or reason or context or text or subtext. Sometimes he even posts plot critical CGs out of nowhere.
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Extremely hazardous jopge spoiler inside, do not open.
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>>554256337
post the other stickman one, the one with the sword
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she do be speaking fax
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>>554256029
>NOOO YOU CANT POST VISUAL NOVEL IMAGE HERE
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>>554256512
Both men and women are equally treated as losers if they're still a virgin in their 20s
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>>554256553
Literally NO ONE said that broski
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>>554256512
MC claps back with trvke
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>>554256512
maybe on planet japan and /vn/
really no one cares about your virginity irl
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oh so it's ok to spoil translated vns but not untranslated ones?
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/vn/ loves used goods.
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>>554257218
Their body count is in the thousands
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>>554257174
Show me one (1) post where any human in this world has ever said that
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>>554257218
will you still love your woman if the whole island had her...
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>>554257218
Apparently they're the biggest whores even by the island standards and people just keep having sex in public spaces on the island but you never see them having sex with any other dude
Make it make sense
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>>554257630
moebuta friendly sluts
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ぱんつ in ぱんつ
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>>554257630
qruppo are pussies
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>>554257174
you are retarded and have sub 80 iq
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panpanpanpan paipaipaipaipai
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>>554257935
paipan? pubefags aren't going to like this...
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>>554257915
Whats the point of having high iq when it only leads to suffering
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What a peaceful thread
I hope he never returns but he will
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>Tag: Anal Monster Birth

Do you like VNs with this tag?
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>>554258856
I'm into everything related to a cute girl's anus except for weird shit like this
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Gonna read a visual novel tomorrow
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>>554259359
We do we reading black sheep town tomorrow
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>>554259452
Already did like 2 years ago, I'll reread it one day though
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>>554259452
Added it to my backlog recently.
I'll get to it by the end of this year.
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oyasumi pai
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>>554260019
Kill yourself
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>>554260019
Live yourself
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>>554260019
'sumi
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Is subahibi the only actual philosophical VN? Everything else in that genre feels inauthentic and basic
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>>554256658
20 y o virgin female is desirable and will have no trouble finding a husband
20 y o virgin male is on the way to killing himself or settling for living alone
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>>554260236
Play this:
https://vndb.org/v13566
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>>554260236
2236 AD
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>>554260275
If a girl over 25 is virgin she's either extremely ugly or extremely mentally ill and not desirable at all given easy it's for them to get laid.
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>>554260580
>extremely mentally ill

Sounds hot.
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>>554260236
>inauthentic and basic
like subahibi
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>>554260236
other futage
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>>554260275
>20 y o virgin male is on the way to killing himself or settling for living alone
Its only over completely and utterly once you graduate uni as a virgin
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>>554254413
Isn't it just a new coat of paint on the main game and no other changes, plus some extra new h-scenes? I don't see any reason to go back unless you really want to reread the VN, or download a save and go straight to the new content.
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>>554261168
>failed uni twice
I still have a chance!
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>>554257464
I'd still love my woman if the whole prison had her.
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>>554261950
route doko
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What the fuck?
I'd been wondering who that one character who still hadn't been revealed yet was and THIS is who she is? And THIS is how they introduce her?
Kinda redundant to give her two slots right next to each other, no?
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>>554262105
Hentai Prison 2 one day!
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Would you play this VN?
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>>554262105
She'll have a route in the third qruppoge where you play as Ran/Rin's younger brother.
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>>554262549
I would definitely play it if redman force feminizes kotarou and adds him to his harem
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This is a real good VN, man. Great song. Glad it's finally over and the credits are rolling and there's definitely not at least one more fake-out before the real ending.
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Blonde woman is usually the worst heroine in vns but every rule has an exception.
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>>554262549
Are they stopping him from beating up that sissy or are they beginning for his cock?
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>>554262549
>Lucia not wearing gloves
Hey everybody! This image was made by a fake fan! This guy's a phony! He hasn't actually read Rewrite and/or makes his shitposting images without respecting the original characters and canon!
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>>554247530
Azusa and Miu. I reckon I'd love Elina too but I still haven't finished her route
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>>554262853
>blonde women are usually the worst
This has NEVER been true, but especially not in Nasu's VNs. Blonde women are always the best.
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>>554263098
She doesn't wear gloves in her sprites though, so it's accurate to the original.
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>>554262853
Bethly was anything but worse doe
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>>554262790
It's not really a fakeout for the last bit. It's a bit funny because instead of the game going from 100% to 40 something, this time it ends early at like 94%. The last 6% is just a bonus route that you get after opening and closing the game like 5 times.
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Smile finally protected.
I've been wondering whether Haruka or Natsumi is the real protagonist, but I think after this you can pretty safely say it's Haruka. The first part of the VN focuses on Natsumi, the true ending and conclusion is about Haruka's emotional resolution.
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>>554261168
>>554261897
>never went to uni
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>>554263671
I did tho
Too much work but a lot of chances to socialize too.
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>>554262853
i guess you hate white women too
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>>554263859
Yes.
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>>554262853
Yeah, Akiha exists in Tsukihime so Arc is the second worst heroine.
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Too many big black bars
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>>554263973
Absolutely deranged take.
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>>554263973
You meant to say second best.
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>>554263774
I didn't tho
Dumbass
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>>554264242
You're a high school dropout, dumbass.
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Since they completely removed all references to Unit 731 in this version of the game, I guess this entire final reference would've had to have been rewritten. Along with basically everything else about Hajime. It's kind of a shocking amount of rewriting when I think about it.
How did they explain all the government MIB covering everything up in the original? Just because he was a military member? In the new version it's because Serejeira has cult members at every level of government influencing things.
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>>554264436
Seek professional work in pattern recognition
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>>554264764
That's literally my job as a data scientist, retard.
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Teenage Granny is cute! Cute!
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i swear you niggas be fighting over the dumbest shit possible
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>>554264934
real?
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>>554265043
Which is better, Dracu-Riot or Tenshi Re-boot?
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>>554265262
No yuzuge tops dracu riot
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>>554265391
Noble works does
They still haven't done better than noble works.
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>>554265262
>>554265391
>>554265438
LLJ mogs all of them
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>>554265506
No one says that
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>>554263973
Akiha > Ciel > Kohaku > Arc > Hisui
But yes Arc is the second worst one
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>>554264459
In the original, Hajime's superior ordered him killed, had a phone call with someone in the government talking about minimizing the people with knowledge about Shigatsu Youka, and then he killed himself as well. There was also some stuff about the gov being afraid about his real identity leaking since he was getting a lot of attention as a good samaritan.
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>>554265506
true!
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>>554265724
Oh, that's all unchanged then, except for the fact they specifically mention he's drawing too much attention and might expose how many people in the government are former cultists.
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>>554265391
considering their inability to write plot and the premise of DR i doubt its as good as people say it is
ill try it some day just cus miu is cute
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>>554265506
I've only read the trial but it's not even half as fun as dracu riot
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Aw fuck it's all going wrong.
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>>554266027
The Trial is pretty different to Dracu Riot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial
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Jops are hyping up lalajam so much i feel like it'll backfire
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>>554266164
Isn't that the boring one from To Love-ru whose screentime got reduced because she was modeled after the author's ex-wife who cheated on him
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>>554266402
>because she was modeled after the author's ex-wife who cheated on him
Lmao
Is there a VN writer who modeled a heroine after his wife/gf?
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>>554266335
I mean it's pretty good but it's no Noble Works.
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>>554266335
NN isn't translating it right? I think we're safe this time
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Ha, I guessed that this would be an ending like five routes and 40 hours ago.
Admittedly, I thought it would be a happy ending rather than the fucking nightmare apocalyptic ending that it actulaly is. I figured they'd make Natsumi the new core and all live happily ever after, not THIS.
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>>554266402
That was literally just made up by the western fandom. Both the main heroines had their screentime reduced in the sequel, not just the one, but that was because the author wanted to focus on the other girls.
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>>554266759
You just gotta go through some bad endings first, it's not the true end
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This is really, really good, man. This VN is amazing. I don't really have the words to describe how hard this ending is paying off.
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>>554266530
>yep i'm gonna make a heroine that is like my wife so that my readers can coom to her
cuck behavior if anyone does this
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>>554267529
It's hot tho
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>y*z*shit image
instant md5
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>>554267867
Go back to your plotgay general
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>>554267867
heh
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>>554267867
filtered
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>>554267948
im just tired of the same fucking images posted every single thread
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>>554267867
I can take new screenshost faster than you can filter them.
Can you keep up with me?
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ordered taco bell at 2 am again
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>>554268075
>new images
please do
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New sca-ji book recc
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>>554267867
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>>554268373
>xitter drama
fuck off
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>>554268373
Can he make a VN where all the characters are cats now?
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>>554268437
drama???
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>>554268075
>Can you keep up with me?
Can YOU keep up with me?
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>>554268373
someone should make a compilation list of all the books he shills on x
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This is an absolutely amazing ending, one of the best I've ever seen.
It's also one of the most definitive endings I've ever seen, I'm shocked there's somehow 5% of the VN left after this, there's nothing left to wrap up.
So the overall theme/idea of the VN is about loss/dealing with grief and moving on, right? All of the villains - Mifuyu, Kotarou, Itohime - are people who lost a loved one and let their inability to move on from that loss destroy their lives and the lives of others. Haruka likewise fails to move on, either running away or trying to bring back Natsumi until in the final super-true ending she's able to accept it's over and she's not coming back, when she gets her definitive bittersweet ending.
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>>554268437
>>554268694
>>554268373
This isn't the fucking thread to repost random shit people post on twitter. It doesn't fucking matter if they're a VN author or not.
You fuckheads need to understand that just because something is tangentially related to visual novels it does not therefore make everything else related to them on-topic. If Masada posts about how he bought a george foreman grill that doesn't somehow make all grill discussion relevant. Read a fucking VN for once in your lives instead of spending all your time looking for tweets to repost here.
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>>554268908
Why are you upset nigga
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>>554268908
THIS so much this
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>>554268908
don't care
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>>554268717
That's a very sweet and heart warming message. But it's also what every Key game does, so is there anything that makes it unique to Key? Or is it another Keyge at home?
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>>554268541
Anon, I was quoting Archer from the Visual Novel Fate/Stay Night, specifically the scene Nine Bullet Revolver in Heaven's Feel.
It's a pretty popular VN and scene, I thought people would get the reference.
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>>554268908
Bro it's not that serious
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>>554269194
I didn't read it because it's too popular
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>>554268908
Do we need to fight over more useless shit again?
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>>554268908
You just don't get it. You have to read the same books as him to understand his works at a deeper level.
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>>554269178
It's a mystery-horror VN, anon. It's NOT a key game, or remotely close. Also it's almost three times as long as Clannad. No, really.
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this thread fucking sucks per usual. i'm leaving
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I'm sure if I was smarter or reread a bunch of scenes I could figure this out but I'll be honest, I have no fucking idea.
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>>554268717
What a normieslop message
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>>554269721
this. there are too many faggots talking about visual novels, we need more ecelebposting
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>>554269702
Ok so is it like Silent Hill type of story telling? Sell me on this game I won't play.
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>people reposting sca-ji's tweets about the books he reads but not his tweets about how he could go to the grocery store, buy a rotisserie chicken, and have sex with it, and that's a perfectly normal thing to do and it's only puritan Americans who thinks it's weird (this is a real thing he tweeted, not that he had sex with a chicken but that he COULD if he wanted to and that's okay)
The latter seems more important to understanding his worldview
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>>554269936
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>>554270079
I need to know what futa doujins he jerks off to
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>>554270219
Good morning queen
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>>554269967
It's a mystery VN where three high school girls find out that a man was skinned alive and found beneath a sakura tree in a public park nearby and they set out to solve the mystery and it just escalates from there farther than you ever thought possible. I don't really know how else to recommend it other than to say it's a fantastic mystery with a large cast of exceptionally well-written characters, and despite being one of the longest VNs ever written it maintains an astonishing level of quality throughout (there's only one route I genuinely dislike, and that's only because it was great until the ending). The only thing you have to keep in mind is that it was made by one guy with no budget, so it's cheap as hell, but if that doesn't bother you it really is a masterpiece.
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>>554268717
>there's nothing left to wrap up.
There's some ura routes that drop pretty important reveals despite it unlocking after the true end. The last 5% is just an extra cut route though, it's not plot relevant but it's fun.
>spoiler
Yeah, as well as coming to terms with their own actions. Haruka's running away from the fact that Natsumi's dead but also from how she's the one that killed her. Hajime had to live on with his own crimes thru human experimentations while knowing he wouldn't be punished for it, but he still tries to do some good with leaving his research behind. Haruka accepts the fact that she killed Natsumi and still lives on and deals with SY and Itohime. and so on with Ito and Koutarou
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It's kind of funny that after reading three million characters from the guy it ends with "by the way here's a trailer for the remake, please wishlist on steam".
Also who the hell is this character? I have no idea. Clearly third gen, but not Chigaya or Kana or Haruka. Red hair and earring doesn't seem to match anyone we know. new character for the remake?
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This is related to VN medium
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>>554268908
>Masada posts about how he bought a george foreman grill
thanks I laughed while imagining Masada posting about retarded shit while still refusing to say anything about Avesta
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>>554270808
>セックスしない
more like related to /vn/ am I right fellas?
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>>554269894
I completely forgot about names of non-relevant characters so yeah, did Hajime's assistant or pupil (forgot that too but whatever) get an actual name?
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>>554249527
>>554254454
>>554268373
>>554270808
kys
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>>554270718
yeah she's new. She's in the title screen of the remake too instead of you know who
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You know, despite being probably the most minor character to still get a sprite, Kengo's a real bro.
Okay he killed Natsumi on at least one timeline, maybe two or three, but he's still a nice guy.
>>554271073
Yes, Tomobe.It's in one of Momoko's diaries, I believe. He's the one who gave her the info about Arata to send her there.
Admittedly it's easy to forget considering they mention him literally once in the entire VN in an optional reference.
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>>554270808
lol
lmao
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>>554270808
why doesn't he just make them have sex
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I was wondering how they'd fit new scenes on the flowchart. I guess that's a way around it.
>>554271230
No idea who she could be or how she could fit in.
This remake really seems like it's the FF7R/TsukiRe style of remake and not at all the original game.
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Higurashi reference???? New++ confirmed for bro!
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>>554271354
It's probably him then because I can't think of anyone else that could fit. The new cult stuff gives him a reason to do so too, the author mentioned them when talking about wanting to expand the Megasawa case in the remake.
>>554271746
Yeah, that's why the partial release format's actually kinda nice for theorizing and discussion since there'll be all the new stuff too.
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>>554272179
Oh right, all that stuff about the cult and Megasawa and how the kids were being bullied because they're children of the cultists and Haruka stood up for them because, since the cult came from Arata, she felt a kinship with them and wanted to be friends - that was added for the new version?
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>>554272339
Yep, the cult is completely new so same goes for anything that mentions it
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What the actual fuck? How are there STILL more twists this late in the game?
This is creepy as hell. I have no idea what's going on at this point.
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what's with the jop plotge spam in an english translated vn only thread
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>>554272806
It's a pretty big thing to save for the literal last second of the game lol
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>I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards
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>hates Haruka
>doesn't have a mother, is obsessed with mothers
>exact same age as Haruka
>no human contact, basically feral
There's only one person I can think of that meets those conditions, but if I'm right, this might be the saddest and most fucked up thing in the entire VN.
>>554273045
I guess they wanted to end it on yet another twist that completely recontextualizes the entire game.
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>>554268373
Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, and little minds discuss people.
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>>554274042
Where do moege fall in that spectrum.
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>>554274042
Did you get that from LinkedIn or Facebook?
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>>554274093
All
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>>554273812
>There's only one person I can think of that meets those conditions,
Yep.
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>>554274241
Well, fuck.
That mushroom is EVIL
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>>554246954
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>>554274042
Nice copy-paste of a shit quote.
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>unlock the super duper ultra secret final route, hidden behind a fucking insane and impossible to figure out ARG, where the author goes "look this is all material I wrote from the game and then cut, you can read it if you really want to, but it's not canon and you're fine to ignore it, I cut it for a reason"
>read it
>it's 60k characters of a 30 year old lolicon trying to fuck a 14 year old girl
What a way to end the VN.
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>>554274042
cringe
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Great minds discuss oppai
Average minds discuss oshiris
Little minds discuss lolis
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>>554274560
I'm so glad he ended off the VN with a story about Literally Me.
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>>554274365
I hate Sekai Project so much.
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>>554274838
>this is who anon calls literally me
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ふぁっく
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>>554274906
Remember when somebody announced they were going to fan-translate it in /vn/ and sekai project employees entered the thread literal minutes later to threaten them with a DMCA?
What a vile company. All people want are madoge, and now we're never going to get them.
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>no EOP is reading a VN
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Erina really doesn't seem to mind this 30 year old man trying to fuck a 14 year old right in front of her.
I mean, I know she's pumping her for information about Haruka, but still.
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>>554239692
I'm sure it's really you this time!

Yuuhi from Amakano 2 (https://vndb.org/c84586) hair down hairstyle, deepthroating from the view between legs perspective (like this - https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/9049742). Keep the pose too - squatting, spread legs, standing on tiptoes. Put her in pink cupless and crotchless bikini. Put them in the bathroom.
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>>554275214
I'm reading a VN but I'm not gonna blogpost because I'm scared of getting spoiled.
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>>554275728
>Put her in pink cupless and crotchless bikini.
So basically put a couple of pink strings on her body that are somewhat near her genitals?
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>>554275728
>He wants to look at a man's ass
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>>554275728
>>554275837
gay as hell
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>>554269914
>obscure and overshilled jop kamige turns out nothing special
many such cases
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>>554275728
>deepthroating from the view between legs perspective
that view makes me want to give bro a rimjob
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>>554275814
Yes.
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>>554275728
Stop trying to taint good girls with karenschizo sloppa
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>>554275989
i think shigatsu is hyped for its ridiculous plot twists rather than themes
these kind of VNs tend to have really retarded plot developments that i am not into so i am intrigued by bro's blogposting but i'm still cautious
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>>554275989
zoomerbros? our response....?
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>>554275989
uhm, zechsisters??? our response???
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>>554276139
But I like his art style.
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for deep philosophical themes you read lessons in love
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>>554275989
most highly rated vns dont have anything special going on with their themes either.
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>>554276285
Share some of these deep insight philosophical themes.
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>>554276329
steins;gate is just a kusoge
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>>554276329
this, our god sca_ji is the only exception
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getting lil bit tired of the s;g slander
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>>554276329
Which ones have you read? elaborate
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>Oh Ise, that lolicon, he's always trying to fuck 14 year old girls
>SUDDEN HORRIFYING TWIST INTO TRAGEDY AND MASS MURDER
>now then, back to Ise trying to fuck underage girls...except now the girl is into it so it's okay
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>expecting shitposters to explain their understanding of something they haven't read
>even if they have read it, expecting shitposters to be able to express their thoughts eloquently
the average /vn/ user isn't that smart
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>>554276529
>meet potential franchise
>1 good entry
>7 spinoffs
>zero quality
>was and were but never is and will
>give me rehashes, give me reboots, give me spinoffs, or MAGES goes bankrupt
There's something there, I'm gonna workshop it a bit.
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Calm down, lowercasesissy
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>>554276285
the philosophy in LiL is just rehashing subahibi but without the gay porn
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>>554276925
>subahibi but good
Picked up
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>>554276925
>rehashing subahibi but without the gay porn
based???
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oh my god he gets the girl, he actually fucks Kana, what the actual fuck, this is how you end your VN? Oh my god.
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>>554276864
Phenogram is pretty good actually
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>>554276329
your muramasa reps?
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>>554277158
Lol
Lmao
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I've been checking out a bunch of vndb profiles for the past month and have found some pretty interesting users. I wish there was a follow option or something to make stalking easier.
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>>554277241
do you fuckers ever actually read visual novels
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>>554276864
we were talking about s;g not sci;adv
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>>554277241
Maybe we can write a userscript for that?
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>>554277203
What’s your fav vn? Just trying to see something.
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>>554277291
So am I. Steins;gate actually has MORE than seven spinoffs/remakes at this point. It's insane how much they're milking it, especially since everything other than My Darling's Embrace is terrible.
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>>554277241
i can make a script for that if there's enough demand
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I know no one cares but I finished Lupercalia and liked it but I didn't realise it was a depressionge. I was just looking for something cute with nice romance to read, any recommendations?
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>>554277372
ok and what do those spinoff have to do with s;g's kamige status?
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>>554277272
I do something similar to find new and interesting stuff to read
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>>554277272
There's not much to read. I've already read all the VNs worth reading from 2025.
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>>554277272
This hobby 25% reading and 75% community stuff
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>>554277495
Retroactively take it away, can't be kamige if you have too many bad spinoffs. Like how the Hangover 2 and 3 ruined the Hangover 1. Just how it works, sorry. Steins;gate lost its kamige license from being milked too hard.
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>>554277659
>Retroactively take it away
kys redditor
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>>554275989
The Tobiden hype went out through the window quickly… I bet you everyone reading this completely forgot about it until I brought it up just now. Has there ever been a good JOPge that lived up to the hype?
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how are you gonna eat out a girl with a bush
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>>554277713
with delight
itadakimasu
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>>554277442
Anything from yuzusoft or toneworks.
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gimme the cringiest vn you have ever read in your life. how are the cringes like?
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>>554277712
sakuranos and rance x will deliver. everything else was never a kamige in the first place
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>>554277712
>He fell for the quof meme
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I don't blame Kotarou, I too would've crashed out (as the kids say) hard if I lost this.
Was this route added in an update? It's very short and feels like something thrown in there at the absolute last minute, especially since the VN's already had TWO definitive endings.
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>>554277712
It seems that the reception is good, though?
https://vndb.org/v23097/votes
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>>554277713
>pubes on mouth
Don't threaten me with a good time, I already floss habitually.
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>>554277981
>>554277712
not a vn
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>>554277885
>sakuranos
You didn't even read it
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>>554277442
Marshmallow all the way home
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>>554278087
and?
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>>554276539
Man, that anon must be writing a really long essay with their thoughts
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>>554277203
still waiting for you to reply to >>554277342 i accept your concession if not.
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we don't read vns we just criticize vns that we haven't read
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>>554277794
>>554278092
thank you bwos, I'm not ready for toneworks stuff that shit goes fucking long
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>>554278421
I read VNs!
After an eternity, I have finally, FINALLY, 100% no really done everything in Shigatsu Youka and can take a break before I start my next VN.
Great game.
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>>554276864
But enough about muv luv
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>>554278548
Muv-luv doesn't fall into this because all of its spinoffs are gacha that EOS immediately so it's equivalent ot them never existing.
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>>554255613
GIWTWM
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>>554246954
>when somebody says something imoutophobic so you hit 'em with the BR stare
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>>554277442
Clover Days
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>>554277442
>Lupercalia
How can anyone read shit with that art style
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>>554279807
Zoomers who cry about art all the time are the worst posters IMO.
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>>554279915
Millennials with no standards who lap up anything are worse
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>>554277372
MDE is a mid tier spin off, it's just a run of the mill romance fandisc. It also has a pretty shitty nothingburger route for Kurisu which is downright offensive for a main heroine. Mayuri's route is good, Moeka and Faris routes are memorable but that's it. Luka and Suzuha have bad routes.
The best S;G spin-offs are
>Babel of the Grieved Maze
>Arc Light of the Point at Infinity
>0 (VN and anime viewed together for the complete package, they are complementary pieces and seeing only one will leave you disappointed)
>Braunian Motion of Love and Hate
>Distant Valhalla
>Linear Bounded Phenogram (aside from a few fluff focused chapters)
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>>554280026
It has nothing to do with standards. The problem is that you just don't actually like VNs. A game's art quality doesn't have any substantial correlation with how good it is, especially when you're just evaluating based on your own personal taste. It's always been that way and isn't going to change, so if you're sitting around whining about it, it just means you don't like the medium and should go do something else.
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>>554280026
It's the opposite, zoomerbro. As you get older, you tend to be more critical about a lot of other things. Getting filtered by art is more common among tourists/newfags
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>>554280465
You spend 20-30 hours staring at art while playing VNs so claiming art doesn't matter at all is ludicrous. I'm not saying won't read anything where art isn't top tier. That shit is too bad even by VN standards.
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>>554280553
As you get older, you tend to be forgiving about everything, not just art.
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>>554280692
>That shit is too bad even by VN standards
so true ironybro
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>>554280692
>You spend 20-30 hours staring at art while playing VNs so claiming art doesn't matter at all is ludicrous.
Lol, I've played 100 hour games with art that's objectively "worse", but it indeed doesn't really matter. If the art is good that's a nice bonus but VNs are a whole package of multiple things.
>That shit is too bad even by VN standards.
I haven't played the game but from looking at screenshots, it's definitely not. It's fairly normal art. If that's what you're upset about then as I said, you don't like the medium.
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It's obvious why musicus flopped here. Anons here are more into big plot twists, sensationalist drama, hype moments, aura farming etc
They can't appreciate slow burn literary writing
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>>554279807
It's not that bad. Some of the face shapes are a bit derpy, but it's much more interesting to look at than generic art.
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>>554280978
>you don't like the medium.
This is such a retarded statement. I only like good VNs. Why would I care about the medium as a whole? If a VN has no phenomenal writing, it should at least make up for it with decent art. Otherwise no one cares about that shit.
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>>554281171
There were some funny chins though
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>>554281234
>Why would I care about the medium as a whole?
If you don't care about the medium then stop crying about perfectly normal things to people who do.
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>>554281049
if the translation was decent, at least those who are into that kind of shit would've enjoyed it lol
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Zoomerbro, this >>554281234
contradicts this>>554279807
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There are lots of kamige with kuso art (Clannad, Higurashi, Ever17, Lupercalia) but where are all the kusoge with kami art?
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>>554275728
Here you go:

https://litter.catbox.moe/5jowab.jpg
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>>554281378
I will complain about whatever I want. The fuck you gonna do, retard?
I don't care about retards who are used to mediocrity.
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>>554281494
>I will complain about whatever I want. The fuck you gonna do, retard?
I accept your concession of defeat.
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>>554281494
What's your top 10?
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>>554281456
Here they are
https://vndb.org/p98
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VNmongs really hate criticism
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>>554281456
look up your favorite vn artist and they've probably also worked on some garbage nobody played
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>>554281456
>Clannad, Higurashi, Ever17
Not kuso art at all. They have their charm.
>Lupercalia
Completely dogshit art with weird faces and no charm.
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>>554281354
Very triangular, indeed.
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>>554281994
Seriously this looks pretty terrible
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>>554281456
>higurashi
>kamige
nope. just to let you know, we’ve exiled all 07tards to /jp/. nobody here takes niggerashi or uminegro seriously.
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>>554281994
>>554281354
the placement of eyes is pretty off and the facial structure is just lol
overall looks more like an alien than a cute moe girl
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>>554281823
This is another thing. If you're defending something that has art that is simply bad by any objective metric, e.g. Higurashi, while claiming something more normal has terrible art, then your criticism has no basis to begin with. You're saying nothing more than "I like this but don't like this." I won't deny that bad art can have some charm to it, but whether that charm "works" for you is just a matter of taste. Someone with the same viewpoint as you would feel fully justified shitting all over any of those games if they thought they looked bad instead. That's why you're retarded.
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>>554281994
cute in an ayylmao way
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>>554282027
I can see why you would think that, but this bitch is actually cute as hell in the VN. I was really surprised that she was Not Sexually Involved.
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The grand route epilogue in Henpri is nice on a character level, but since I can't get off to H-scenes anymore it's a bit tiring to read through and I don't have the same level of enthusiasm as with the rest of the game. I'm not saying the scenes are bad, because they're definitely not, but H-scenes just don't do anything for me anymore except in extremely rare instances, so when there are a lot of them I start to lose interest. So this isn't a criticism of the game, just a personal thing. Anyway, I'll probably play something all-ages after this.
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>>554281994
I've been staring at this pic for a while now and the more i look at it the stranger it appears. It's like the artist doesn't know anything about the bishoujo aesthetics and someone just casually explained him that this style of art has pointed chins, big eyes etc and he just drew those elements in abstract without understanding how those elements even come together. I think it's why this shit doesn't work but clannad's art is fine.
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Literally untranslatable
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I'd rather be a tourist desu
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Putrika has currently a discount on JAST.
https://jastusa.com/games/kagm001/
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>>554282734
>ゐ
Kino every time.
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>>554282668
Clannad looks like ass. Itaru has no sense of aesthetics
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>>554282574
Also the way the sex is handled at this point, unlike the earlier parts of the game, feels more like Nukitashi, which makes sense given the setting change. Anyway, that happens to be something I didn't like about Nukitashi, and it's something I don't find relatable or appealing.
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>>554281049
>/vn/ can't appreciate foid-coded writing
IDBLT
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Even the best VNs tend to have a bit of derp.
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finally done with h-scenes in kusotagra

i can finally enjoy the last 3 hours of the true end uninterrupted
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>>554283210
You don't just skip the sex scenes in VNs?
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>>554283104
While I don't think Musicus is that kind of game at all, most VNs targeted to women are not very good, and some of them feel so targeted towards women that if you're a man there's really nothing to get out of it. That being said, there are a few that bypass that and are legitimately great.
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>>554283253
>you don't just skip chapter in a book?
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>>554283304
>hscenes are a chapter
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>>554283210
Rin's route in the Cartagra FD still has many h-scenes but it's a must read.
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The Musicus MC monologuing about Plato during an H-scene was literally how a dimwit would imagine a smart person.
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>>554283345
>you don't just skip pages in a book?
>you don't just skip 1m of movie once every 15m?
>you don't just skip skits in an album

>>554283435
dunno about the FD but in the original game every single side-route is filler
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>>554283473
Was he talking about how Plato considered love between men to be superior to love between men and women?
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>>554283470
Human art vs AI art
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>>554282931
The art in early Key games is hit-or-miss. Sometimes it manages to look good and then there are also CGs I have to admit are bad regardless of how much I like the games. Either way, you get used to it pretty quick so I wouldn't let it put you off from reading any of them.
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>>554283473
Anon, I think that not understanding why that scene is like that makes (You) dimwit.
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>>554283304
Actually there was a book series I had read with a gay MC that had detailed gay sex scenes and I skipped those too.
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>>554283473
He's an asexual and he thinks sex is weird. He's not portrayed as a smart person. You people keep taking shit out of context.
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>>554283525
>book analogy
>movie analogy
>skit (?) album analogy
schizo hours
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>>554283680
>>554283732
I want to believe that >>554283473 it's just another bait, I refuse to believe that /vn/ is really that retard
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Why are there so many people in this medium who don't understand what they read? Isn't that contradictory?
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>>554283992
I'm just here for the art
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>>554283864
Years ago when musicus came out i used to just post shit out of context for shits and giggles. Some people just took it seriously.
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Holy meltdown
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Musicus is thematically Sakura no Uta with Subahibi levels of thought provocation but with Muramasa levels of freedom and composition, Oretsuba tier characters, writing and prose on par with Cross Channel, Baldr Sky degrees of entertainment immersion, and White Album 2 amounts of raw human emotion and feeling.

It is the exodia of the kamiges. Every kamige was created just to prepare you to read Musicus. It is no surprise that it instantly received the prestigious Moogy Kamige Badge even through utmost scrutiny and review.

Some games betray you by tonal changes after the prologues but Musicus does not. It always maintains a minimum threshold quality level of 9.9/10 from the beginning while freely utilizing the maximum level of 10/10 at the end for a perfect quality gradient from start to finish.

Musicus has the least flaws of all the flawless masterpieces ever created to date and will likely remain so for the rest of eternity. Before Musicus was created, I was never sure, but now I can gladly testament that humanity did indeed manage to develop culture.
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>>554283795
>skips h-scenes
you didn't read the vn hours
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Black sheep town is better
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>>554284030
This
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>>554284247
That thing doesn't look human.
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>>554284247
dogshit art
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>>554284247
There's so many things wrong with this
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>>554284247
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>>554283670
That's a nice Kano CG, but she still didn't belong in Air. That was supposed to be single heroine ge and Key was just too scared to break the formula.
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>>554284247
A JOP was defending this back then lmao
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>>554284710
>That was supposed to be single heroine ge
Do you have a source on that? It's not something that I've read before. Anyway, I don't think the other heroines fail to fit into the game or anything.
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some people really take this hobby seriously
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>>554284247
This is a college aged girl. Look at her. She looks 20+ years old.
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>>554284992
I don't mean that's what they planned. I mean it would have been better that way. It's my own personal bias against waste of time side heroines.
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>>554285454
That's the least of the issues with that image
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>>554285443
Some people arrived here before 2025, yeah
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>>554285661
i arrived here in 2020 i think
i still don't take this shit as seriously as you guys
it's just a passive hobby
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ふわふわパンケーキ
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>>554285759
fav vn?
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>>554285759
Visual novels are literally the most time-consuming medium, so it's normal that a lot of people take them seriously.
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>>554285849
muramasa
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moebuta only interact with the medium on a surface level.
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>>554285927
>literally the most time-consuming medium
debatable
some of those LNs/WNs are fucking long and gachatards spend years on a single gacha
but then again it doesn't matter bro
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>>554286004
That makes sense. You'd have to be a real smart piggy to read a visual novel on your own. Better to have Kyou read it to you at bedtime.
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>>554286004
all moebuta are plotbuta too but not all plotbuta are moebuta
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>>554286043
>some
That's important. They're just exceptions. Here, practically any moege is longer than fucking legend of the galactic heroes, for example.
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>>554285927
>the most time-consuming medium
That's video games
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>>554286112
i want to pet him
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>>554286259
See >>554286203
The only ones that come close to VNs are RPGs/JRPGs.
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>>554286203
>legend of the galactic heroes
that shit is only like 10 volumes. a lot of vinnies go beyond that.
i think i remember doing some calculations a long time and arrived at the figures that your average 30 hour VN is equivalent to a 300 page 8 LN volumes
i might be remembering it wrong
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>>554286449
>a lot of vinnies
*linnies
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>>554286449
>that shit is only like 10 volumes
A 30-hour vn is practically the same length as even the anime
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>>554286336
You can sink literal hours into strategy/ simulation games
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>>554286697
There are people who have spent 10,000 hours on Minecraft, yeah.
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>>554285594
>He thinks it's an issue.
I was bringing it up because there's no reason Amakano 3 shouldn't get on Steam when its heroines look like they're all young adults in their 20s.
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so kanade vndb page says the protagonist has a face
but the character page for the protag doesnt have an image
is it a lie or they just didnt bother to add a pic
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>Amakano girls
>Sighthounds.
>Oppai Academy girls
>Pugs
Which way, /vn/?
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>>554286670
It really puts things into perspective when you realize you can watch the entire HxH (2011) anime in 50 hours.
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>>554287102
love these dogs so much
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>iriya no sora 4 volumes
>628280 characters
>futamaga ren'ai
>512643 characters
Bruh
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>>554287102
post border collies
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>MilkFactory garage kit figure of Catherine
man, quof would probably love it if he saw it, i still kinda miss him
https://x.com/theUNIMISO/status/2012842275638849704
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>>554286203
>They're just exceptions.
What are you talking about? Even the ones that end without continuing for eternity are long. The fact that there's no art/voices only makes it harder to maintain focus and immersion(especially hard when the writer doesn't describe shit properly).
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>>554288569
>there's no art/voices only makes it harder to maintain focus and immersion(especially hard when the writer doesn't describe shit properly).
it's this for me
i don't mind serialized content but as i grow older i just can't imagine stuff as vividly as i used to when i was teenshit. not sure if its just aphasia or just plain old aging and the fact that these writers insist on minimalistic prose only makes it worse
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>>554287898
'light' novel
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>>554288569
>The fact that there's no art/voices only makes it harder to maintain focus and immersion
Huh, I think that's just your problem for not growing up reading books.
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>>554288440
The guy has a twitter, you know: https://x.com/Mr_Quof
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Is it just me or does everyone have ADHD now?
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>>554288953
No one enjoys reading books growing up except for stupid nerds. The kind of books they made us read at school only made me hate the entirety of western literature.
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>>554286203
>practically any moege is longer than fucking legend of the galactic heroes
>it's real
bruh
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>>554289065
I am surprised at myself for having found your problem so quickly.
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why would i read books with no ost when i can read books with ost (aka vinnies)?
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>>554289080
no fucking way thats true
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>>554246954
>Chachamaru lended this sweetheart out to her soldiers
I still can't get over this.
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maybe I should start lovepical poppy
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jops what does this mean
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>>554289196
Being exposed to literature from an early age allows you to develop a better understanding and reading habits. The fact that there are so many retards today who don't understand what they read is precisely because they grew up raised by their phones.
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>>554289260
if you exclude 4m (1/7th of the runtime) between ed/op/preview it makes it ~40h
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>>554289080
>>554289260
If we're talking about novels instead or anime, it's about the same size as hoshiori, which is like the most bloated moege out there.
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>>554289503
Most moege in my experience average around 25-30 hours
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>>554289389
FOTM ALERT

>>554289456
ok but now answer my question instead of seething about something irrelevant
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>>554289650
Because they allow you to gain a greater understanding of literature in its purest form, enabling you to compare it with other media that use written narrative as their form of expression.
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>>554289751
answer my question or stfu nerd
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>>554289751
Literature is normieslop
We're attracted to otaku medium specific aesthetics
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>>554289786
Floodtroon, if you had ever read a book, you would understand my point.
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>>554289521
Isn't hoshiori bigger than muramasa lol
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>>554289861
i read more books than you probably.

your point is that you can't answer my question because book with ost is always better than a book without ost, no matter how much you cope around it. me shitting on books is the direct consequence of having consumed a lot of them.

and memes aside, the even bigger problem is that books are way too short to change your life in any meaningful way
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Tried books
I just can't give a fuck about any of the 3dpd characters and their 3dpd problems
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>>554289196
VNs aren't really the same as books. The writing tends to be on the level of YA fiction or light novels, and they can offload a lot of things into art and music, whereas a book has to rely totally on its writing.
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>>554290087
Floodtroon, you've been the same for six years. No matter what you read, nothing is going to change your life.
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>>554290120
I like the imagine the book characters have otome/BLge designs, it makes things more interesting.
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>>554290087
>books are way too short to change your life in any meaningful way
How did VNs change your life other than turning you into a worthless NEET
Take one VN you consider life-changing and explain how it changed your life
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>>554290087
>the even bigger problem is that books are way too short to change your life in any meaningful way
?
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>>554290236
I don't like BLge designs at all. That shit only repulses me. I like men to be more like they look in movies than sissy ass bishies. Sometimes I try to imagine female characters being 2d.
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>>554290127
answer the question

>>554290243
subahibi showed me the world beyond the end sky, no book could have ever done that.

also if you read more vns and less (((books))) maybe you'd have understood that waging = slaving and your a dumb goy wasting your life for imaginary numbers on your bank account screen
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>>554290127
Yeah. A common mistake made by people who have read a lot of books and try to write a visual novel is that they overuse explanations of the places where the story takes place or details of every movement the characters make or thought they have. That's not necessary in a visual novel.
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>>554290372
there are exception obviously, but they are way far and few, and guess what? it's the length of a standard kamige. also 100 hours without ost < 100 hours with ost
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Pretty big words for someone who didn't understand S;G
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another new day, another new shit take by ranksissy
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>>554290558
>it's the length of a standard kamige
Lmao
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another new day, another moebuta metly

>>554290593
>pretty big words
selfown
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not everyone who laughs at you is a moebuta, lolcow kek
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Will reading Nietzsche help me understand visual novels better?
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>>554290785
He was an incel
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>>554290785
No other philosopher influenced VN writers as much as him
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>>554290891
So, yes?
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>>554249119
There was no way they would have given a character that looked that young a route.
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>>554290891
Worse.
He was a cuck.
He confessed his feelings to a baddie and she not only rejected him but fucked his friend. You kinda have to be a loser fuck to produce philosophy.
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>>554290372
i think i'll really like this. i wish it had an ost too, but oh well...
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>>554290558
That kind of mechanical estimation doesn't mean much when you're dealing with something that's written at a higher literary level and is going to require you to read carefully and actually put thought into what you're doing.
>>554290438
>answer the question
I don't want to sound like I'm being harsh on VNs, because I don't intend that, but I do think it can be said that (since you asked about OSTs) the usage of music lends itself to a sort of "sensationalist" manipulation of emotions rather than an intellectual one conjured through thought alone. It's the same for movies, TV commercials, etc., the music is used to push you into a certain emotional state that the actual content you're viewing may not be sufficient to generate on its own. I think this could be called a more "base" form of media, thought that doesn't necessarily make it worse. I also don't mean that as a knock on music, because music of a high level does not rely on this sensationalist quality but invites contemplation and careful attention in its own right, rather than just serving as fulcrum for something else, like in a game.
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>>554290438
>subahibi showed me the world beyond the end sky, no book could have ever done that.
Yeah but answer the question. How did it change your life?
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>>554291123
Why don't we have great philosophers on /vn/ then?
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My brain is wider than the sky
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>>554291167
music bypasses brain regions that process language
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>>554291123
lmao no wonder you can feel the rage emanating from his prose
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>>554291167
Your favorite Naam bread recipe, sir?
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>>554289650
>FOTM ALERT
To wait and remain contrarian or to read and become an enjoyer.
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>>554291298
I don't think that's a sufficient response to what I said, considering what I said about music at the end of my post.
>>554291348
I don't know what that is. Also I don't want to know so don't tell me.
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>>554291184
>How did it change your life?
i live happily now
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O-P-P-A-I
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>>554256512
Similarly, women who keep their chastity are praised while men who keep his are ridiculed by both men and women as losers especially if it isn't by choice (incel). It's almost as if men and women have different roles and expectations from society.
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>>554291456
>I don't know what that is.
Least believable lie you told yet.
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>>554291465
>live happily
>spend all day seething and shitposting on /vn/
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>>554291456
>I don't think that's a sufficient response to what I said, considering what I said about music at the end of my post.
you didn't really answer my question, you just said that music is emotionally manipulating (which is the whole point of an ost) and that you are more inclined towards intellectual endeavors.

would your enjoyement of muramasa be hindered or improved by having no music while spending more time on text? probably no. of course it would've also been a completely different medium, but i'm pretty sure i personally would find the muramasa vn way more enjoyable than the muramasa book
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>>554291627
The only reason you think I'm Indian is my work schedule, and I work at night so it doesn't even make sense. I've never eaten Indian food and I never will. I hate Indians.
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>>554291650
>>spend all day making NPCs seethe and shitposting on /vn/
exactly. i also can live happily regardless of everything now, this is just a phase
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>>554291771
Nta but I suspect you're Indian because you like characters who molest and rape heroines, and you think rape victims should kill themselves.
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>the mahoyo steam port works with adaptive triggers, allowing you to analogically set the pace that the text shows up
wtf this is freaky. These console VNs like this and TsukiRe are awfully comfy to read while laying on the bed.
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>>554291348
sir, it is naan
don't disrespect our bread
peshwari naan is the best
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>>554291730
Muramasa benefits greatly from silence thoughever
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>NPC
has there ever been someone who used this unironically that was not a midwit? really the saddest self-report one can make.
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/lit/fags are getting uppity again. our kamiges mogs your top books.
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Maho: Yo
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>>554292116
Shut up, zech.
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>'dul throwing another melty
good morning sir
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>>554257630
>Make it make sense
Sure. Majority of the readers who tolerated them being sluts did so because seeing them fuck others wasn't shown. Unless it's an NTR themed vn you risk pissing off readers by depicting the heroines, or possible future heroines, fucking others.
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>>554292001
I'm sorry!!!
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>>554292139
kek
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>>554291465
The secret to living happily: just give up
>have problem
>give up
>no problem
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i’m not gonna read your paragraphs kageakijeet.
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If lotr was a VN it wouldn't just be the same shit but with bgm and art. they'll somehow find a way to add 4 heroines and 4 routes. industry expectations matter more than the medium format.
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>>554292116
It's an appropriate term to call most humans who clearly are not capable of critical thought.
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>>554291730
>you didn't really answer my question
I was never trying to say that one medium is strictly better than the other. I don't think that to begin with. They both have different strengths that I can appreciate and enjoy, so I was trying to communicate why you might to read books alongside VNs, rather than replace them.
>you just said that music is emotionally manipulating (which is the whole point of an ost)
Indeed it is. I think there's music that's used for an "effect" like a soundtrack, and music that exists in its own right as something for you to contemplate on its own terms. In a multimedia work like a VN, the different parts aren't intended to stand alone in their own right, but work together to form a whole. That's perfectly fine, but I think each of those parts thus functions at a lower level than in its own medium in which it would need to be singular.
>and that you are more inclined towards intellectual endeavors.
Kind of? I read books but I don't think I necessarily prefer either medium. I took a shot at movies too but I also like movies.
>but i'm pretty sure i personally would find the muramasa vn way more enjoyable than the muramasa book
Maybe. You'd have to change so much about it that it's very hard to say. It's like how you can't directly adapt a book into a movie without changing it fundamentally.
>>554291878
I think Indians would want rape victims to live so that they can rape them again.
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>>554291878
That's just a LARP to appear le based and redpilled.
That mindset makes zero sense for a muramasafag.
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The thread was pretty interesting. I guess all the shitposters wake up at this hour.
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>>554292302
>you can't fail if you never try

This is how I live my life too.
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Vns are better than books because I don't have to read boring physical descriptions of characters or backgrounds
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>>554292116
No, it was funny for a week but then everyone with half a brain came to understand that “no internal monologue thing” was as a misconception and that the actual divide was between verbal and abstract introspection. Must be weird being non-verbal. I wonder if it’s an advantage for logic-intensive task.
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>>554292386
There is a lot of """critical thought""" here
https://vndb.org/w?u=u246991
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>>554292585
how would you have non-verbal introspection? that doesn't seem to work
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>>554292728
is he here with us right now?
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>>554292131
They really do. I read blood meridian last year and it was the worst basedboy piece of trash I ever laid my eyes upon.
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>>554265438
Noble Works was good but not as good as Dracu-Riot
>>554265506
One if the only good things you can say about that yuzuge is "At least it's better than Tenshi Souzou Reboot"
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>>554292585
I still find it hard to believe that some people introspect in human languages. My thoughts are in abstract form unless I explicitly give them the verbal form. One disadvantage is that I'm not really good with words but I feel like I'm pretty good at grasping abstract concepts and solving logical/mathematical problems.
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>>554284401
meant for >>554263539
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>>554292442
I have some emotional complex about female sexuality and women with sexual experience, which is exacerbated by the fact that women get raped. It reminds me of a madonna-whore complex but that's not what it is. I feel sympathetic but I also hate them. I wish I were asexual, honestly. I've only read one work that got close to how I feel about sex.
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>>554292685
People conceptualize their thoughts via abstract ideas and mechanical thoughts rather than through words. Must be like a looney tunes cartoon where monke sees himself doing the thing in two different scenarios or something like that.
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>>554293096
>some emotional complex about female sexuality and women with sexual experience
Did you get cucked by a whore or something
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>>554292987
Why are you always having a melty about AIsir, DULL?
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>>554292987
Did that shit get bigger? kek
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sherry SEX
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>>554292941
Yeah, I suspect non-verbal people are better at math and logic at the expense of being able to conceptualize complex ideas in philosophy, law and similar areas. Although maybe you use something akin to a minds palace for that? No idea.
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>>554292987
Im not into pissing though, so at least keep the adventures relevant.
I guess you really do find it funny to bother wasting so much time, I don't really get why you're obsessed with the word 'prose' but uhhh you do you I guess. As long as you're having fun
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>>554293117
>Must be like a looney tunes cartoon where monke sees himself doing the thing in two different scenarios or something like that.
Lmao no not even like that. It's not visual.
I don't know how to put it but it feels like a higher level representation.
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I'm glad I have no online presence. I wouldn't know how to feel if someone made a collage of me.
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>>554293096
wtf is this shit
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>>554263098
see >>554263539
I used the sprite, blame Hinoue Itaru, retard
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Expand your horizons, /vn/.
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>>554289061
No Child Left Behind was a mistake.
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>>554293593
Can any of those books match the quality of this VN?

https://vndb.org/v13566
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>>554293593
moby dick fucking sucks
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Maybe this will make me sound like a zoomer but how did the world work before Muramasa was written? It's impossible for me to imagine how people acted and behaved before such a world-defining masterpiece was made.
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>>554293240
I've had a girlfriend in the past and I've never been cucked. I didn't care about this at all when I was younger, so I think if I really wanted to I could probably just let it go, but I don't have much of a reason to since I think trying to have a relationship again would just be painful for me.
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>>554293117
That cannot possibly be a better way to think than verbal
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>>554293593
Muramasa is better than all of it.
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>>554291167
VNs realize narrative purposes using more than just text. As an author, you could also just pause music when you think your narrative is calling for it. Written text isn't inherently superior to spoken or sung text.
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>>554293593
>phenomenology of the spirit
Who’s the pseud out there telling people to casually pick up and read this book? I can’t think of a worse idea. It wasn’t meant to be read on its own back then and you sure as hell shouldn’t do that now.
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It's over...
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>>554293593
None of them have rimjob h-scenes so I couldn't care less
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>>554293765
>trying to have a relationship again would just be painful for me.
So you decided to be single forever?
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>>554290438
>waging = slaving
Floodbro... you can always just move in the countryside and grow crops(like Kageaki should have done) or pick a trade like woodworking. Basically working for your community/yourself rather than another person. Also ever17 is at least a 7.
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>>554293719
Moby Dick is one of the few truly good books in that list and one of the few good things to come out of America.
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>>554293946
kek
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>>554293921
Do you never tire of being the class clown?
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>You reading this right now should just die too
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>>554293765
No way you suddenly developed that phobia as an adult out of nowhere
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>>554293946
Kys DULL
AIsir onegai
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>>554293946
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>554294179
It’s not out of nowhere. It’s the consequence of reading too many NTR doujin. That’s why I avoid the stuff entirely, personally. Poison for the spirit.
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>not a single one of you isn't an unsalvageable faggot
Should I laugh or cry
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>>554293991
He's just a fat lazy fuck who want to do nothing else but sit on his ass and consume entertainment 24/7
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>>554294164
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>>554294434
that's just your average jop
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>>554292036
good thing you can turn off the ost when needed

>>554292302
low iq take. the actual solution is realizing that there was no problem in the first place

>>554292402
understandable. i'm not against books, there are book i enjoy a lot, but if you told me to decide between reading a mid vn and a mid book i'd pick the vn 10/10 times

>>554293991
>labor is the meaning of my existence
that's why i called you an npc, not because of the lack of internal monologue or whather that meme was about

>Also ever17 is at least a 7.
i will probably raise it after some time passes, it definitely on the level of fsn and not any lower, i just don't like overhyped things

>>554294434
>he's just living happily instead of seething at everything and everyone
IDBLT
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floodtroon melty kek
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>>554293946
sameshit really
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>>554293943
I know, and I don't think either is superior, which I tried to communicate. I do think the stoppage of music in a work which normally uses music can itself be a sensationalist usage of sound, but that's neither here nor there.
>>554293985
Yeah. I guess if I ever met a woman that I liked, who also liked me, I would be open to changing my mind, but I don't see that happening and it's not something I'm going to go out of my way to look for.
>>554294179
I don't know what caused it but I didn't have any sort of traumatic experience. After I got out of high school I went through a semi-hikikomori phase for years before I started working so maybe that had something to do with it. When I was in high school I didn't have any trouble dealing with women and was pretty ballsy with them, actually.
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>>554294143
At least I am not the class trans kid, like you.
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>>554293946
lil bro's izzat is completely gone by now
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Adding his vndb username was a really jerk move kek
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>>554294809
He’s going to have to shit on a clean street to make it up for that.
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to be fair, 'l is an even bigger lolcow
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>>554294894
'l is the one making those edits about aisir, he is trying to get him back for spoiling him kek
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>>554293946
Newfag here! I don't understand the futamata renai meme.
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>>554294570
>that's why i called you an npc,
This is my first post itt floodbro so you haven't called me an npc. I pointed out that work=/=wageslaving which is what your post implied. You don't have to do it(I could care less about the life of people other than myself and my loved ones) but at least acknowledge that it exists.
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It would be funny if wasn't zech-dono posting this
It's just two lolcows duking it out
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>>554295084
i accepted its existence and i decided that my value/dignity isn't defined by labor/work, regardless of its beneficiary

now that ai will make jobs obsolete it will be really funny seeing the total normie meltdown once they realize that they are not "needed" anymore
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>>554293946
How unemployed do you have to be to stalk someone across different social media and nitpick their every word
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>>554295075
He blogposted it right before the tl came out and made a fool of himself the whole time
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zech really got mindbroken by the hooking allegations huh?
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who has the most イッザト on /vn/?
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>>554295075
>newfag here I care about this cringe off-topic drama
Said no one ever. Kill yourself.
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'l really got buckbroken by aisir
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>>554293991
Trades will become obsolete soon due to automation, or given to illegals who will agree to work for a fraction of the pay you will demand.
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what is going on? who made that stalking collage of him
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>>554293946
I didn't read the entire thing but on the left he's just asking a question and when anons corrected him he's like "oh got it" . Is this supposed to be /vn/ golden lolcow? This shit is nothing burger.
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>>554295396
>allegations
it will take at least 2-3 jop kamige to recover all the izzat he because of 傍点s
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>>554295665
>who made that stalking collage of him
'l like always, lurk more newfag
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>>554295704
geeeeg
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>>554295665
K王
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>>554295704
>>554295396
Genuinely would you let this shit die if Zech-dono came here and apologized for acting like an arrogant asshole?
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>>554295075
>futamata renai meme.
What? Also, has the ge been already translated?
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>>554295802
we need a zechcord spy asap
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>>554295683
It's funny because he always claims to be an expert in japanese even though he can't even read hiragana or katakana
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Downloading the Mahoyo soundtrack right now as I contemplate what to read next.
If God was real and loved mankind, it would be Mahoyo part 2, but sadly we aren't so lucky.
I'm open to any recommendations.
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>>554295825
>Genuinely would you let this shit die if Zech-dono came here and apologized for acting like an arrogant asshole?
i don't care about how he acts but i will drop it if he admits having read everything with a texthooker on twitter (he won't because his izzat would become negative)
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>>554295825
All JOPs should do that.
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>>554295836
I think they're on that cord affiliated with tmw
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>>554294668
There is nothing wrong with being trans...
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>>554295826
Yeah
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3113990
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>>554295907
I want to have sex with this silly creature.
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>>554295836
>physical object
>length
kek
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>>554295907
https://vndb.org/v9678
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>>554282574
Qruppo isn't known for their great H-scenes so im sure that played a bigger role in the H-scenes being a slog for you. Try reading something that has really well written H-scenes or something that has few or have all/most H-scenes relegated to side content and not part of the main story(jeweha, leyline series, girls book maker)
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>>554295843
His whole shtick is that he only understands spoken Japanese to some extent and he uses AI to translate stuff. He just asked a question instead of claiming the VA made a mistake and when he was corrected he didn't even double down.
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Tamaki...you're so beautiful...
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>>554294668
friendly fire, transmasa bro...
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>>554295836
>it’s real
imagine getting pressed by some random neets trolling on 4chan. zoomers are retarded as fuck kek
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>>554295907
>I'm open to any recommendations.
The Tsukihime Remake, obviously. But read a few moege in between so you don't get a kino overload.
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>>554295836
>>554295802
>>554296171
i hate that this babyjop but he also likes revue starlight so i'm kinda torn
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>>554295836
>15 likes
If only elon didn't make likes private
Those 15 fuckers are definitely posting here
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>>554295943
>i will drop it if he admits having read everything with a texthooker on twitter
You are roughly in the same age group as him so you have to understand that it's not that easy for him to say that.
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>>554293946
Oh god
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>>554296213
doing this rn with Beato's bussy
AMA
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>>554296130
Nah, it's just me personally. Some of the scenes were objectively pretty good, I thought. I stopped being able to get off to H-scenes in VNs a long time ago and it's really rare to find one I can fap to (last one was like a year ago?). Some of these even turned me on some, so I just fapped to something else then finished reading them. That's why I said I wasn't criticizing the game.
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>>554296094
Already read it, but good rec.
>>554296221
I'll probably go with Fate/Stay Night and move onto Tsukihime afterwards to complete my Nasu-chan-dono journey.
Stalled it 5 years ago and only have one route left anyways.
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>>554296130
>girls book maker
Peak ge with peak h-scenes. Too bad they are not part of the main story as you said. I hate it when devs do that. Makes them feel like non canon.
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>>554295825
Who cares about gay ass shit like apology
He should really stop behaving a pretentious asshole
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>>554296423
>Already read it, but good rec.
Is it any good?
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>>554296213
Treating Chachamaru's bussy like this RN.
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>another 'l uppity
fuck off already newfaggot
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>>554295836
>that esl speak
you’re not beating the spic allegations K王 GEEEEEEEG
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>>554291601
It's cause women are the gatekeepers of sex while men are the gatekeepers of marriage. A man has to put in work to make himself desirable enough for women to allow him to sleep with them, whereas with women, as long as they are not hideous/mental basketcase, can have sex whenever they want. Also evolutionary reasons behind it as well. A woman is guaranteed to be the mother of her child while a man isnt. Therefore virginity was the only guaranteed way for men to ensure the kid was theirs
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Floodtroon, as a fellow lolcow, what are your impressions of that collage?
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>>554296456
Yes.
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>>554296535
he's canadian (aka indian geeeeeeeeeeeeeg)
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>>554293946
forgort her mal
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZcCO2xGt60
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>>554296643
he's the leafsissy??? Didn't leafsissy say he's not on xitter/cord a couple of threads ago?
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>>554296608
it could've been a lot better, i would probably cut at least half of it, like where he asks random question.

the manosaba part is 10/10 tho
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Unironically what ecelebs did /vn/ discuss 10 years ago? Or were you guys actually talking about vinnies?
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>>554296670
>kiss siss
Oh, so that's why it's his favorite
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>>554296670
>hates abdul
>has ABdul tier taste
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>>554296389
I didn't find any of hentai prisons H-scenes particularly good and only a few of nukitashis decent. But to each their own. Yuzusoft older ges, Lose ge's, purple softs older ge's have some of the hottest and best written h-scenes. Alicesoft does mostly vanilla sex but they have ways of making each one stay consistently hot enough to not get bored of the lack of variety at least in rance series and dohna dohna
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>>554296821
6 years ago it was moogy, kastel, clephas, sacredgeo, aroduc
I didn't exist here before that
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>>554296854
opposites attract, they are the opposite of that. both mtl and both love ab
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>>554296670
>Alan is a zoomer
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>>554296854
everyone hates 'l thoughbeit
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>>554296849
Bro, I just remembered that there really is a lot of piss shit on kissxsis kek
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>>554296854
>>554296965
What if it's a joke? He knew you were going to find his profile so he prepared that as an easter egg.
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Looks like zechcord raid
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>>554295907
It will come out in 2032 bro
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>>554296920
The one that stood out to me as being the most well-written was Noah's first H-scene in her own route. The last H-scene I was able to actually fap to was the last H-scene in Sana Edition, by the way. The last one before that I can't even remember.
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>>554296993
Literally every single thread "celebrity" is a zoomer.
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ABdul cord sends their regards
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>>554297070
anons found his profile years ago before 'dull's arrival
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>>554296670
it feels weird that he's already turned 30
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I don't understand the animosity towards AIsir
t. JOP
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>>554297186
Never read Sana edition, was it cause the scene was written super well, appealed to your particular kink, you really REALLY liked sana as a heroine or any combination of the above?
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>>554297387
it's a meme, we love aisir here, only 'l keeps seething about him
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>>554297070
>What if it's a joke?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaOrlwnyt94
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I am about to read some cuckshit bros. Gonna crank that hog to some NTR if you know what I mean.
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>>554297357
Time flows faster than you might think.
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>>554297387
He's pretty infamous for spamming gacha and anime crap here.
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>>554295836
What’s the average age of a zechcord user?
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>>554297354
What if "ABdul" was only a persona created by him!?
>>554297468
This
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>>554297572
the same as the age of the average uma musume player
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>>554297141
The oldest zoomers are 31
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>>554297357
at what age do i have to leave /vn/ so i don't end up like that?
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>>554297572
Are you a PDF lusting after young zoomer boys?
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>>554297572
TZD
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anyone got the invite for zechcord?
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>>554297761
Most zoomers are over 18 unc
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>>554297707
I think /vn/ is ok if you don't waste all of your time on it. I check /vn/ only at the end of the week. It's worthless 99% of the time so you might as well do anything else
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>>554296749
I'm glad we agree on something for the first time. The vndb deletion notification made me laugh out loud.
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>>554297186
Same anon, i think hoshi ori rikka route deserves an honorable mention with hot H-scenes but a lot of that is in part due to her route being that good. Safe to say you can just play hoshi ori for rikka and not really miss much. Maybe childhood friend as well
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>>554297761
Yet another clown that doesn't know what pedophile means. Literally impossible for any zoomer to be prepubescent in 2026
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>>554297430
Well I definitely recommend it. It's the best moege that I've read, and I'm pretty critical of that genre. As for why I liked that H-scene, I'd say it was a combination of the things you mentioned rather than one particular element. Specifically it was the blowjob part of it that I liked, which I thought was done very well.

If you want to read the game, it's the fandisc for Mashifoni. The routes in the base game vary and some of them are not particularly good IMO (Airi is probably the best out of those and is the thematic center of the game). Sana's route is by the best, though, and Sana Edition comes with the common route included so you don't actually need the base game if you don't care about it.

>>554297960
I've never been able to finish a Toneworks route, and I've tried all the ones in Hoshi Ori and most of them in Ginharu. It's rare for me to be able to finish a moege route, much less an entire game. I did like Rikka, and she was my favorite heroine in Hoshi Ori, but this another game where I just can't keep my interest once the H-scenes start.
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>>554297357
Most eroge writers are in their 50s or 60s. I myself am in my 40s. Will still read eroge until I'm in my retirement home, sexually harassing my young nurses while pretending I'm senile.
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>>554297960
>Safe to say you can just play hoshi ori for rikka and not really miss much. Maybe childhood friend as well
This is Sora erasure! I will not stand for this!
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>>554298367
Bruh do you also have kids?
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>>554298367
nigga, if you are fat (most moebutas are), you will die of a heart attack soon
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>>554298367
Is that VN as kino and depraved as the hentai adaptation?
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>>554298639
Remake is censored.
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>>554298683
How censored are we talking?
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>>554291771
>I've never eaten Indian food and I never will
You're missing out on some good stuff
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>The graffiti is still there years later
lol
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>>554298327
I thought Sana didn't have a route in the base game and that's why she got a fan disc. I've been keeping my eye on it but kept putting it off cause I'm scared of MC being aggravating. How is he in both base game and sana route? I.e. does he act assertive, have good romantic and sexual chemistry with the heroines and actually acts like he's interested in the heroine both sexually and romantically or is he written like your typical uninterested donkan wish fulfillment cuck that treats heroines like onaholes?
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>>554298479
Her route was decent but her H-scenes sucked ass. That and im not really a big fan of the 'emotionless' quiet girl trope. Rikka set the bar way too high and made it blatantly obvious she was the devs favorite
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>>554298367
You have good taste, sir.
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I'll execute you, drop dead baby.
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>>554298772
Not really. It's all heavily spiced slop to cover up the poor quality or rotten ingredients
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>>554299165
>sir.
Bro, you an indian or something? Is your skin brown? I am not racist, just asking.
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>>554297141
You are just a kid, no older than my son.
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>>554299298
Worse. I'm British
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Is Kageaki a good role model for boys?
Is Ichijou a good role model for girls?
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There is nothing to read
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>>554299292
Maybe if you eat at some rat-ass joint. Actual restaurants that adhere to regulations and care about quality will change your mind about indian cuisine
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>>554299503
You said that yesterday
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>>554299440
Ichijou is smart and based, so yes.
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>>554299292
idk bro but biryani is pretty good
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>>554299503
wait for teikan no eve bethel
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mental illness
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>>554299503
>>554299498
Fuck off discord tranny
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>>554299664
Would (consensually)
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>>554299601
hehe
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>>554299691
>lowercasenigger
Normal behaviour.
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KEK
https://old-forum.cm-ss13.com/showthread.php?11277-GoldenDarkness-Ban-Appeal-(Discord-Ban)
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>>554298879
>I thought Sana didn't have a route in the base game and that's why she got a fan disc.
She didn't have a route originally, but had a route added in the all-ages console port. Later when the HD version of the base game was released, they took her route from the console version, added extra content and H-scenes, and released it as Sana Edition. And like I said it includes the common route so it can function as a standalone game.
>I've been keeping my eye on it but kept putting it off cause I'm scared of MC being aggravating. How is he in both base game and sana route?
Mashifoni is kind of interesting in this regard. In the base game it's questionable. He's likeable enough, I guess, but there's nothing special about him. In the H-scenes he's not all that great and there's multiple routes where he has premature orgasms and shit like that. It's kind of lame. That being said, they made him a much better character in Sana's route and none of the stuff I just said applies anymore (pic related). The romance with Sana is really good and he does care about her as a person and not just for sex or anything like that. Point being you don't have anything to worry about.
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>>554299793
Her skin-tight underlayer is pretty hot, excellent design choice
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>>554299923
aiZir...
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>>554298879
NTA but I dropped Mashifoni in the common route because I couldn't stand how much of an inoffensive, nice guy the MC was.
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>>554299923
>that ban reason
This time he didn't do anything wrong tho
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She won
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Just wondering: what do the younglings here think they will be doing in 20 years from now, when they are in their 40s? Just seeing this sentiment a lot in weeb circles, that you are supposed to drop your hobby once you turn 30 or something. I liked otaku shit since I was a teen in the 90s. Am I supposed to switch to other hobbies once I turn 40? Like collecting postal stamps or model trains? I'm in my 40s now and still like what I liked what I did in my teens or 20s. People usually don't change their personality magically once they reach old age. If you are passionate about that shit you will be so in 20 or 30 years.
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She won
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>>554300260
I can see the dick
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>>554300198
>>554300260
When are you guys creating a human translation for your favorite moege?
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>>554299923
golden af
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>>554299613
'l...
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>>554299974
>>554300129
Looks like im skipping straight to sana edition then
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>>554300129
You should have kept reading. At least in Sana's route they turn his character around completely.
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>>554300213
>Just wondering: what do the younglings here think they will be doing in 20 years from now,
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>>554300213
It's as simple as you finding new hobbies and getting bored of this hobby. I'm already experiencing it.
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>>554299923
Bro...
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>>554300213
> here think they will be doing in 20 years from now, when they are in their 40s?
In terms of hobbies, probably the same stuff.
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>>554297572
I doubt any of them are over 18
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>>554300505
>more intelligence
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>>554300551
You just have multiple hobbies at once to slowly appreciate instead of hyperfixating on one topic and exhausting all enjoyment from it in a short amount of time.
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>>554299923
He was censored for speaking facts
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>>554300551
Been into that shit for 20+ years, anime shit and Japs games, eroge. Well, mostly eroge these days... Never got bored of it. But I never had any other interests in my life, so that might be a factor.
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>>554300085
>Fight 2 at once
Wow, that was pretty tough
>It's now making me fight 3 at once
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>>554300737
Welcome to Discord.
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>/vn/ without AIsir is like the NBA without LeBron James
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>>554300397
Probably a good idea. If he bugs you in the common route just let it go and keep reading because it will get better. On a side note I liked the OP to the base game a lot, but it's not included in Sana Edition since it has its own OP movie, so here it is if you want to watch it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krXpd0so6cg
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bro this is why i don't use the same username across different platforms
it's basic opsec
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>>554300442
Tsunderes are only good when the MC knows how to handle them and the Mashifoni MC just doesn't.
Plus, I don't like heroines who simp for other heroines.
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>>554300979
Only E-celebs like AIsir do this
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Any agpge this year?
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>>554300939
thx anon
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I am literally fucking AIma'am right now
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>>554300795
>But I never had any other interests in my life,
Not even sex(with other anons)?
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So why does Illya have an affection meter if she doesn't actually have a route? Just to tease us?
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>>554301037
Unless you've read Sana's route I don't want to hear about how the MC in the game can't handle her type of character.
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>>554301179
Detroon...
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>>554301179
How is she in bed?
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>>554301207
That's as retarded as asking "why does my mom have an affection meter if she doesn't actually have a route"
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>>554300979
Common sense is different in poland
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>he doesn't know
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>>554300979
It's hard to remember em all
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>>554300979
Yes. Only a fool uses the same username or password twice on the Internet.
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>>554300795
>>554300213
I understand being into the same hobbies but I don't understand how can you put up with this site for decades. I hope in 10 years I won't still be here.
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>>554301539
There's nowhere else to go other than trooncords
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>>554301271
The cutest thing about Sana is when she gets cucked.
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bros i really can't fap to yuri h
it doesn't feel like sex if there's no dick involved
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I actually like when the virgin protagonist struggles with ED or premature ejaculation. That's just what happens when you're a dumb virgin.
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vns that humbled you?
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>>554302079
It's even kinda hot how the girl immediately gets a creampie
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>>554302143
Hentai Prison
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>>554302079
I hate how whiny they get because they can't get hard. It's the opposite of cool.
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i'm low iq, this is gibberish
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>>554302254
It's even kinda hot if she gets pregnant the first time and has to drop out of school, to be forever shamed by honorable Japanese society.
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>>554302446
Damn I'm hard
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>>554302432
>'DVLL
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>>554302559
kys 'l
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>>554302432
>writing like a schizo is le deep
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Would you drop out of /vn/ if an anon got you pregnant?
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>>554302726
you have to be high iq to decipher schizo ramblings on the fly so yeah
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VNs like Faust?
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I've read somewhere that Kageaki has a weak sperm. Is this true? Can any sperm specialists confirm or deny?
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>>554302815
Rokuhara Scientist was re-telling of Faust
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>>554302920
Kageaki impregnated your mom when your father couldn't.
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>>554303163
kek
gottem
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>>554303163
I don't have a mom. I was made in a lab.
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>>554302765
I would return to the sky if Kimikanon got me pregnant.
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>>554303227
Rokuhara's lab in Enoshima btw
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pantsu IN pantsu
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I imagine the first person to read Muramasa was something like this:
>HOLY FUCK THIS IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINO!!! SO FUCKING GREAT! STRAIGHT UP FIRE!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! *dies from peak fiction*
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>Also ever17 is at least a 7
You'll be surprised to hear that according to Yorhel "It all started with Ever 17", and it's still one of three VNs he has rated 10. t to
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>>554303754
To be fair, back then we all thought Ever17's twist was proof that VNs were a transcendent medium capable of so much more than traditional books. It took a couple decades of repeating the same "twist" in multiple other games to realize that it wasn't as revolutionary as it first appeared.
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>>554303743
Muramasa is so kino that the guy revived with sheer will force
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only in eroge would you get something this kino and then being able to lewd the girls
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>>554303308
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>>554304024
RIP arms
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>>554303754
more like Ever 65
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Henpri grand route epilogue finished. That was a very nice way to wrap up the game, even if it's a rip-off of The Shawshank Redemption. Just need to read Himeru's append route and that'll be everything. This has been an extremely good VN. There were some things that weren't to my personal tastes, but that's okay. Highly recommended.
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>>554304239
It's over, Moogy-dono has spoken.
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>>554304239
Based
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>>554304239
Moogy? More like Dookie.
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>>554304306
Also looks like the append route is already included in my copy (I bought it from JAST). Figured I would have to patch it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MScazTXGxu8

>30:30 hours left for me to release the book

I will not lose no matter what V-V the tier lists are nearly finished, the book TLation is finished, all KANGviews and blogpostationes are ready... I just need to make it look prettier, and I need to add couple of comments to it...
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Do you like heroines who get turned on by treating their lover like a baby?
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>>554304469
JAST supremacy
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>>554304514
what ge?
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>>554304493
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>>554304743
https://vndb.org/v24689
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>>554304239
We prefer untranslatable chuunimoege where you read walls of kanji on a grey background.
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>>554304743
S§S
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>>554304469
To talk about the game structure a little bit, I don't agree with their route numbers here. I think it's best to read Taeka's route first rather than Chisato's, for a number of reasons. It's not terribly important in the long run, but I think that order makes the earlier parts of the game more enjoyable.
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>>554304951
It looks a little nazi if you write it like that, bro.
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I'm going to post a JOPpai thread once we hit page 10!
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>>554305148
Make a NTR kino thread please
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>>554305148
How many times have you promised me that?
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>>554290438
Is this already the end?
Have I now seen the final thing that VNs and anime and manga have to offer?

The thing about SubaHibi is that once I saw the world beyond the end sky, I cried because it was so beautiful and so sublime.
I already knew it existed because there is an even higher work then Subarashiki Hibi out there that I know; but it’s an anime not a visual novel so I won’t mention it.
But I already had seen the world beyond the end sky long ago and I knew it to be beautiful. I already knew and I had already seen before, so it can not save me; since I am already saved.
However it showed me again a familiar smile beyond the end sky that I longed to see again after such an endlessly long winter.
And yet — deep in my heart I feel that this is the end.
Nothing more is there to see in visual novels.
This is now the end of art.
I live happily, but my world is becoming ever smaller because all words have already been spoken.
And there is nothing left to say but to remain silent.

Is there something else, something perhaps lesser but that mirrors SubaHibi?
I fear that this was already the peak and everything else is lesser
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>>554305657
>—
'l...
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What is the Philosophical Investigations (1953) of VNs?
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>>554304239
even moogy's sensei acknowledges ever17, and that's a shameful way of speaking in public desu esp in Japan

https://hadlerblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/02/%E3%83%87%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B7%E3%82%A2%E3%81%AE%E7%BE%85%E9%87%9D%E7%9B%A4-overview/
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>>554305891
I was ready to call him a faggot, but he read more VNs than I ever will
https://vndb.org/u12472/ulist?f=&l=1&l=2&l=3&l=4&l=7&mul=0&s=3q2w
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>>554304239
his izzat is over9000, i kneel
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>>554305698
You must be a very sad man.
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>>554303743
the first ever cuckchad
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>>554306123
Quality>quantity. I read my ge like a man. Moggy reads his ge like a slave.
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>>554304306
>extremely good
so not a kamige.

thanks for taking the bullet kageakibro. next vinny?
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>>554306274
that's not moogy, retard
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>>554306313
Slow Damage
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The only real kamige are Clannad, YU-NO, and Rance X. Everything else is 9/10 at best.
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>>554305657
>Have I now seen the final thing that VNs and anime and manga have to offer?
no, subahibi says your word is a vessel, sakuranos will explain how to fill it and with what
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>>554305657
>I already knew it existed because there is an even higher work then Subarashiki Hibi out there that I know; but it’s an anime not a visual novel so I won’t mention it.
i'll bite, what is it

>inb4 angel's egg/haibame renmei
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>>554306313
>so not a kamige.
I could understand someone calling it that. It's definitely worth reading either way. I don't think you need to like Nukitashi either in order to enjoy this.
>next vinny?
I was thinking of going through the SciADV series. I've only read Steins;gate and that was many years ago.
>>554306442
I've already read Slow Damage and it is a good VN.
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>>554306603
Sora no Woto
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>>554306461
>with what
Let me guess: cum.
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>>554306723
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>>554306442
>>554306442
i think he already read it kek

>>554306458
only if you are 110iq

>>554306645
>sciadv
tired of potential kamige? but still i can't shit on sci;dev, they are a fun read
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>>554306645
>I was thinking of going through the SciADV series
What were your thoughts on S;G?
>>554306603
>angel's egg/haibame renmei
Those have nothing in common other than religious motifs though. Haibane had a profound effect on me since I saw a lot of myself in Reki.
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>>554306698
>A poor man's 86 and girl's last tour.
uhm nyo, not slopping.
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KIMIKAAAAAA!!!
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>>554307000
the closest anime to subahibi is monogatari btw
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Did anyone here read Fate/Extra?
If so, recommended or not?
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>>554306886
>tired of potential kamige?
I read all sorts of things.
>>554307000
>What were your thoughts on S;G?
I liked it but it did not think it was particularly special at the time. My memories are a bit fuzzy, though, so I'd like to revisit it and see if my feelings have changed. I'd be starting with Chaos;Head first, though.
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>>554307175
Real or fake Kimikabro?
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>>554299665
I've hyped myself up too much and now I'm afraid I'll be disappointed aiiiieee
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>>554307240
have you read https://vndb.org/v26987?
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>>554306461
I wager that the author is incapable of expressing that.
Sakura no Uta has one problem:
Its premise; the actual premise:
To show that which is beyond the end sky fully now that we have understood that the world it a vessel and truth exists beyond words.
In short he will attempt to show those transcendent things from the beyond now that he has proven that they exist.
Such an attempt however is doomed to fail, it is not meant to be.
The highest things can only be shown in the way that SubaHibi shows them: as a shy light in contrast to utter darkness. Only then can the transcendent break through.
And though it is infinitely beautiful.
At some point you become numb to the darkness and therefore you stop seeing the light as well.
Therefore you can never permanently remain in the light.
To depict just the light without the darkness is a futile attempt.
And Sakura no Uta must fail utterly because of that.
I have not yet read it; but obviously I am extremely curious.

>>554306603
I thought about telling you, but just know that it is. That way it is more fun.
However it is none of those that people mentioned.
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>>554307317
Real. This will be my last post for today, though. Do not trust any Kimikas past this point!
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>>554307240
>I liked it but it did not think it was particularly special at the time. My memories are a bit fuzzy, though,
Oh ok. Have fun.
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>>554307357
I thought about it a while back then read pic related in the VNDB character page.
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>>554307561
>Such an attempt however is doomed to fail, it is not meant to be.
>I have not yet read it; but obviously I am extremely curious.
i haven't read it but i think sca_ji can deliver that
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>>554307561
Meds NOW
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>>554307332
If it ends up being a disappointment im quitting VN's
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>>554307698
Just so we're clear, I was posting Kimika for years before you showed up.
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>>554307561
>I thought about telling you, but just know that it is. That way it is more fun.
just tell me the hecking anime
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>>554307872
She's yours for the rest of the day, go wild.
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>>554308016
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I appreciate Kageakibro since he writes proper lengthy arguments instead of a few meaningless words.
I appreciate Kimikabro because he sounds like a nice guy.
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>>554308085
Is this what zoomers like?
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>>554307768
It is not me who is mad, it is this world.
Therefore you are the madman because you consider mundane indifference and lovelessness normal.
Because your heart does not break when you see art trampled or beauty disregarded.
Because you are scoffing at the truth and mocking it.
Indeed the mockers are those who sin against the Holy Spirit, to spit on beauty and truth is that what will never be forgiven neither in this world nor in the next.
Therefore I pity you, because in truth you should panic and be afraid because of the wrath that is to come; and yet you call me a mad man?
Is that not the greatest irony of them all?

>>554307901
Madoka Magica
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>>554308260
Zoomer here and NO. This is not what I like!
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>jopdog has 330 cm and 300kg
This cannot possibly be right. Am I getting bamboozled by the machinery here or is this dog actually fucking massive
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>>554308409
I thought Joppais were bigger than that.
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>>554308401
>>554308260
Forgot to add but I usually listen to Joan jett & the blackhearts. This is what I, a zoomer, appreciate. Do you have a problem with that?
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>>554307357
>>554307736
That being said, if you want to shill it to me I will read your post and think about it reading it. That character description really turned me off hard, though.
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>>554308260
Yes (16 years ago)
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>>554308234
Forgot to mention AIsir
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I am more of a man than everyone itt
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More like AIpiss kek
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>>554308409
Galette and Lose are the king of loliges
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>>554308837
>>554308409
fuck you, stinky pdf. you hurt my eyes with your weird lolis. leave the little girls alone and go get a job you disgusting faggots.
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>>554308837
too bad about the art
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>>554308234
Kimikafag said Rokuhara's songs suck, he is evil
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>>554309136
best wife append, much like susuko
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>>554309007
leaky clitty sissy gets pissy cause xe will never be a missy
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>>554309364
>>554309364
>>554309364
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>>554309413
lmao fucked up
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>>554309281
I do remember the scene earlier in the game when Sofurin was trying to beat off MC in the prison and he couldn't cum and then when Himeru said she'd do instead it he came immediately.
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>>554309303
Most trannies are PDFs so you blew it
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>>554310134
>>554310134
>>554310134
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>>554308338
>Madoka Magica
revue starlight is 10x better, sorry sis
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>>554309413
>deleted
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>554308409
>window mode
zecheh

>>554308591
dunno, it's one of those fabled quasi-kamige that nobody talks about. if you bothered digging mamiya i thought you might bother spamposting this one too, it should be on the shorter side
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>>554310317
I don’t blame you for not understanding Madoka Magica.
For SubaHibi you only really need to have a masters degree in philosophy or mathematics to understand the tractatus.
But for Madoka Magica thats not even close to being enough
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>>554310457
>dunno, it's one of those fabled quasi-kamige that nobody talks about. if you bothered digging mamiya i thought you might bother spamposting this one too, it should be on the shorter side
I see. I'll look into it a bit more.
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>>554310519
google who wrote madoka and you'll understand it's deep as a puddle
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>>554310650
>Authorial intent
The eternal truth is always beyond authorial intent.
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urobutcher > scatji
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>>554310898
except in one case you are a schizo who see things where there aren't, while in the second you are having a spiritual orgy with sca_ji and his futa waifus
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>>554310650
the same hack who wrote Muramasa, I know.
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>>554311123
So you mean that you need to have everything explicitly spelled out for you.
Madoka Magica‘s core is explicitly in subtle things like the symbolism in the background images and the hidden messages in the runes.
It’s only something you can understand if you really dig deep and investigate it.
If you don’t seek out the truth and it does not draw you in then it will just seems like nonsense to you.
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>>554311127
???
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>>554311123
I wish I was a shizo, then I could have a Yuki waifu in my head and eternal happiness.
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>>554311380
>So you mean that you need to have everything explicitly spelled out for you.
that's not what i meant

>If you don’t seek out the truth and it does not draw you in then it will just seems like nonsense to you.
bro the runes are used to spell names lmao. again, watch revue starlight movie if you want to see what actual intended symbolism looks like
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floodtroon shills that movie so much i might watch it because I'm bored
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>>554311671
you need to watch the 12 episode anime series first
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>>554311819
getting to it right after my uma musume reps
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>>554311571
>Das Ewig Weibliche
>Die Ewige Wiederkehr des gleichen
>Sie Verehren den Tod
>All three in very specific contrasts and contexts implying a very specific meaning in reference to what is happening which is opposite to the straightforward interpretation that most people arrived at erroneously
>its just names BRO!
Yes, well, you clearly never really investigated it in the slightest
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>Shoujo Kageaki
lol
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>>554311965
bazed
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i remember how hfk revue starlight movie was that i almost died from kino

gotta read the vn someday
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>>554312436
is this yurishitkino
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>>554313159
as logh is gay but it has yuribait undertones
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Steins;Shit lost.
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