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Two more months of waiting edition

[PoE 2]
>Druids
https://pathofexile2.com/druids
>Ongoing 0.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212

[PoE 1]
>Keepers of the Flame
https://www.pathofexile.com/keepers
>Ongoing 3.27 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes
>Compiled links, tools and utilities
https://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt (embed) (embed)

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>>554325187
He won.
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PURE SEX
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>he is a jingakh
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>>554325571
hard
>>554325554
harder
>>554325564
hardest
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>>554325823
kek good one
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>>554325564
Just precummed a little
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everyone left us for torchlight................
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>>554327058
>everyone
that's not a lot of people, desu
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>>554327226
>torchlight has better bot protection than GGG
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>>554327332
no, they just require you to pay a bunch of money to get any loot and ban bots.
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>>554327226
those are all real players. 99.9999% of POE players are bots.
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>>554327058
I tried it the game fucking sucks donkey dick stop shilling that trash here.
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>>554325319
last one, i made this a while back, it depicts chris leaving GGG
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>>554327587
the only trash that should stop being shilled here is dog of shitxile: deuce
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TLI would be good if it wasn't as p2w as it is.
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kinda insane how you can slot in one or two pieces of gear and you're just playing a completely different game
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how did poo2 end up on development hell?
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>>554329493
development hell is inevitable when an incompetent narcissist is in charge
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when new poe 1 league? wanna see my queen play something good for once
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>>554329493
development hell is when the stall happens on accident, not when it happens as a deliberate strategy
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>>554329672
that's a king, if anything
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>>554329672
march
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It's insane how hard nu-ggg is dropping the ball.
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what's the cheapest PC that can play poe2? it's impossible to build a new PC right now so i was hoping to find something suppppper cheap
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>>554329493
They spread themselves too thin. It was clear from the start that they weren't going to be able to maintain two live service games. At this point their only option would be to pull the plug on POE1 entirely and focus all their manpower on 2 (though considering the people they have at the helm I'm not holding my breath for a success).
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uh oh.... poop2ers are turning on tri...
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>>554332242
>we're going to make a sequel but we won't stop making the orginal, and actually you can play them both at the same time, together!


This was not a good idea
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>>554332242
Or they could do the sensible thing and have two teams dedicated full time to each game instead of shuffling people back and forth like a gaggle of retards
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>>554332721
Works for me, I have two seasonal games I want to play alternating, so I spend less time waiting and more time playing.
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>>554332580
gems were ground found in poe1 for years. they will eventually add a gem vendor that caps at 3 or 4 for supports and 15-16 for skills.
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>>554332748
>Or they could do the sensible thing and have two teams dedicated full time to each game
But you see that would cost money and that's out of the question.
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>>554332846
No like the entire concept of making a sequel that you can play with the original game while having it be completely different, with different items, ascendies, abilities, but somehow it will all play together? it makes no sense.
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>>554332923
"Truthke", as the kids say.
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>>554332748
or they could use one as a beta server for the other one, which is what they have been doing since 2018.
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>>554331880
I got muted because I said "African American Knight" in reference to the Black Knight. The mods reasoning was that it instigated hate towards a marginalized group.
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>>554332946
Makes perfect sense to me, I'm not sure which part is confusing to you.
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>>554332975
that jaw looks strong enough for my thickness
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>>554333239
that's not how sequels work anon.
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How the FUCK do you get these abyssal faggots to leave their gay fucking whirlpool of AIDS
they won't FUCKING LEAVE
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should i spend $6 to have some fun this league?
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>>554333464
walk away from them and have them follow you
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>>554333239
nta but it's not a reasoning based in reality. How are they going to have the same team, the same number of people who barely held together the original engine as it was in poe1, and now they also have to incorporate all these new systems and items into that existing framework held together by duct tape and dreams, and it is all somehow magically suposed to not only interact but also run well? Does that sound logical to you?
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>>554333467
spend $6 on killing yourself you fat retard
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>>554333532
they're american, fucking couch potatoes
they'll literally just sit there off screen not attacking
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imagine spending money to not play the game
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>>554333434
Your idea of "how things work" isn't some universal truth, it's your opinion.

>>554333552
It sounds perfectly logical to me to make a sequel to a successful live service game and run both games in parallel.
It would've been illogical to not make POE2 (it made a lot of money already), and it would've also been illogical to kill off POE1 (it's still making money with minimal maintenance). So how is their course of action illogical?
What would you, a genius of videogame development, have done instead, and why haven't you done it?
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>>554333834
The ones that just sit there and shoot projectiles at you are almost impossible to get to leave the fart cloud. If you play a projectile build, just position the mob in one corner of the screen and yourself in the opposite corner and spam attacks at them. You won't be able to kill them while they're in the cloud, so they should just die instantly when they move slightly out of it. It's only really truly aids if you're a melee and have to be on top of them to kill them, as half the time the cloud will warp on top of them right as you get the killshot.
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>>554334082
>So how is their course of action illogical?
Because by spreading their team over both games they are hurting the development of both by not having enough people. The main argument here is that POE2 and POE1 are two completely separate services but GGG is acting like they're the one and the same.
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Post the fertility goddess sitting next to larry pic, I need it right now.
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>>554334080
Please tell me that's a guy
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Why isn't /poog/ watching Belton explain DETERMINISTIC AMULET CRAFTING right now
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>>554334286
>Because by spreading their team over both games they are hurting the development of both by not having enough people
A sacrifice they were milling to make, and that ended up being objectively the right call from the standpoint of fiduciary duty.

>The main argument here is that POE2 and POE1 are two completely separate services but GGG is acting like they're the one and the same.
There is enormous overlap despite them being distinct games. They are not completely separate services when their monetization systems are combined, and when there's non-stop asset and knowledge reuse.
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>>554334604
Because I am not a homosexual (I am but not in that way)
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>>554334082
name a sequel that you can play multiplayer with the original. You can't.
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>>554334628
>objectively the right call from the standpoint of fiduciary duty.
Except it wasn't. They made less in revenue 2025 as a direct result of having to maintain both services.
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>>554334896
That has nothing to do with anything I posted.

>>554335346
Please don't comment on things you have zero understanding of, or at least cheat a little and use AI to fool me better.
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>>554334153
you can kill them in the cloud, and then they drop dogshit loot, outside of the cloud they can drop omen of light
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>>554332580
I honestly dont get his "I must have billlion uncut support gems" take, he claims that gem scarcity prevents him from experimenting but if you want to experminet just go on standard and do it there why do it on a league start
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>>554335454
PoE1 and PoE2 sharing the same economy is a ridiculous fever dream of an idea of a concept.
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Does arbiter drop anything worth killing him or should i just sell these fragments
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>>554334080
Please I'm trying to not nut again
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>>554334628
>They are not completely separate services when their monetization systems are combined
Except the items you purchase in 1 can't be used in 2. Not even all MTX's that you buy in one can be used in the other.

>and when there's non-stop asset and knowledge reuse.
This is like saying that Dragon Age 1 and 2 are the same game because the lore, item, and spell knowledge can be reused.
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>>554335524
It's pretty accurate for your first playthrough of the campaign before you have trade, you really aren't allowed to cut too many wrong gems if you don't want to really start lagging behind in power.
You could argue "choices should matter" and I'm the kind of gamer who's inclined to agree, but just recognize that experimentation being punishing causes whiplash to a lot of people who don't see "simply start over or grind more" as viable solutions and instead see them as artificial difficulty.
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>>554334320
i'd rather fuck larry than fat putrid cloister
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>>554335454
You clearly can't handle that people are giving valid criticism for your game so you try to handwave away all arguments with "you just don't get it". Have a good one anon.
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>>554334604
Nigger the league is over
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>>554335889
choices should matter at the end game
players shouldn't be punished at the beginning of the game
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>>554334604
it's so fucking boring
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>>554335916
I don't care how much of a raped faggot you are, give me the picture.
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>>554335627
I don't know where I said that they share the same economy or that they should.

>>554335794
>Except the items you purchase in 1 can't be used in 2
Dunno my tabs seem to work.

>Not even all MTX
I don't use MTX, and I'm sure this won't be the case long-term.

>This is like saying that Dragon Age 1 and 2 are the same game
Did I say anywhere that they're the same game, or did I say something else that's completely accurate?

>>554336026
It's not "my game" in any way, I had no part in making it and I don't really have a preference either, I play both.

>so you try to handwave away all arguments with "you just don't get it"
I'm not having discussions about financial statements with someone who can't read them.
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>>554334080
I have great need for sauce.
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>>554334604
poe2 crafting?
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>>554333790
Damn I’m sorry is that a days wage for you
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>>554335464
>you can kill them in the cloud
If you are outside the cloud and they're inside you can't damage them
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>>554336603
RMTers are really the saddest cucks cuz the only thing they can buy with their meager incomes is some pixels and a bit of smugness in pretending they're richer than they are on 4chan.
If you were the happy rich guy you pretend to be, you wouldn't be buying currency in videogames, you would be flying in your helicopter or fucking your 6th model mistress or whatever.
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>>554336692
Not exactly, your heralds and other things that can trigger from hitting other nearby enemies will damage them if triggered nearby them.
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>>554334080
Grim
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>>554334664
hey
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>>554336281
>share the same economy
that was the original pitch for poe2.
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>>554337606
Did I talk about that at any point? Do my posts sound like I was taking about that?
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>read someone call it the tranny temple
>think hes just autistic
>go to the temple
>theres literally a room with a "trans device" that alters your character
wtf its real?
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>>554337815
see
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>>554332946
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>>554337841
@grok is this true?
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>>554337815
Nta but it was part of the original argumant. The first posters talked about 2's selling points and how they weren't feasible, a joined economy being one of the promises GGG made in the promotional material for 2.
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>>554336429
hmm this one?
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>>554337993
>bottom surgery room
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>>554338102
Nevermind I found it and she's a real girl. Not interested.
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>>554338005
PoE2 was originally just an alternate campaign and some different classes.
They weren't separate games with separate itemization and balance
Fucking retard
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>>554337913
>>554332721
says "you can play both at the same time". It doesn't mention anything about the original idea of having 2 campaigns, 1 game.

>>554332946
was already addressed

>>554338005
Well damn maybe people should read subsequent posts before responding to them,
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2444750/Shape_of_Dreams/
Anyone tried this? It looks like it takes a lot of inspiration from PoE but does novel things with it
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>>554338258
>They weren't separate games with separate itemization and balance
Except GGG advertised that POE2 would be completely intergrated in POE1's system, with a shared economy. I don't know what you're arguing for or against but you're not even a part of the same argument as the original posters. Hell I'm not even part of it, I just responded to your post.

Relax.
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>>554338414
There are a lot of isometric action games with WASD idk where you're seeing poe in this
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>>554338282
>Well damn maybe people should read subsequent posts before responding to them,
Or maybe you should re-read the post you originally quoteposted.
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>>554338414
I did. Uninstalled today after like 3 hours.
It's shit but I'm too tired to elaborate why.
I'll say that it's almost nothing like PoE.
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Why are you guys obsessed with troons
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>>554338902
Because they're hot.
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>>554338947
But like real girls exist bro
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>>554338792
I did, and I addressed that already, that post mentioned nothing about it.
>>554338282
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>>554339073
But they don't have cocks though.
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>>554338569
you're so fucking stupid holy shit
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>poe2 crafting
>need 10 divs to craft a 50 ex thing thanks to shit rng
I see the VISION
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>>554325187
DOG SHIT OF EXILE 2
NO NEW ACTS OF EXILE 2
NO CHALLENGES OF EXILE 2
NO ENDGAME CHANGES OF EXILE 2
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>>554339365
Ok let me put it this way: Nigger.
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Abandonware general
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>join pohx laague
>dead after 4 days, apart from couple of subhumans jewing currency exchange
wew i love glorified ssf and im never falling for this shit again
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>>554202259
I'm impressed that you got it to work. No idea on what to do to improve it though.
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>>554342349
NO POE1 IS ALIVE ITS POOP2 THAT IS DEAD
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>>554342609
it's d4 that's alive
poop 1 and 2 are dead
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for me? Its POE1 Standard Ruthless SSFHC
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>>554342919
>d4 that's alive
lmao go away blizz
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>>554342927
Standard ruthless HC probably has like 4 players total, SSF is redundant at this point
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk93ApHWqSY
>2006 they actually started working on poe
>2013 released
this is so embarrassing for poe2
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>>554343952
poe1 "launched" with act 1 and nothing else lol
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>>554344068
2013 is when poe 1.0 patch came out you dumb newfag
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Did people ever figure out the secret sauce of Ulaman or Kurgal rare mobs?

Ulaman makes copies but I have no idea how to get extra loot from them.
Kurgal seems to resurrect under some conditions for x amount of times. I think the most I've gotten was 3 but the loot didn't seem any special.
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>>554344147
oh so it had all 10 acts in it?
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Making an ARPG seems to be a really easy way to make money cuz the ARPG audiences seem prepared to throw money at just about anything, as long as it promises things (and doesn't matter how likely it seems to deliver).
Kind of crazy that there aren't even more shovelware ARPGs.
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>>554344364
its an infinite money making machine. call it the next d2 killer and people will gobble it up.
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>>554344364
also what's easy is that the ARPG playerbase doesn't even want you to try anything different. Literally do exactly what other games do. Any innovation will be considered bad
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>>554344364
anon, the word "ARPG" in your post is entirely superfluous
People pay more for hype and promises than for content. This is universal among all businesses
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>>554289518
There was a deleted reddit post that had a video showing how Ulaman supposedly works for loot but the fags in the comments weren't helpful. I know it was a video because google showed the thumbnail.
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so is this herald ring meme useless without explodey or what? doesn't really do much in even remotely juiced maps, pump it to 50 stacks and still has no clear so gotta just hardcast again anyway
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>>554344689
Yeah that's the thing, and let's be honest, ARPGs aren't very technologically demanding either, people want isometric view grinds with minimum story for the most part.

>>554344823
There's truth to that, but I feel like the bar for quality or originality has to be a lot higher with a lot of other genres.

When is /poeg/ teaming up with /agdg/? I can be the ideas guy.
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>>554345232
I'll make the logo
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>>554344364
>no arpg shovelware
>zoomer missed the 00s completely and utterly
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>>554345363
I'm 35 baby, I just don't go anywhere near this genre other than POE. And notice that I said "even more".
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>chris wasnt involved in poe2 itemization
no wonder its shit lol
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>>554345862
I don't believe anyone was. Most of the shit looks like generic stuff they threw in last second. Half of the tree still has generic place holder nodes.
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>>554336026
Uhm, you're a jingakh.
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i never run temple and decided to stop in at the end of a map run
are the transcension device rewards just applicable in the temple? these can't be permanent buffs right?
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>>554346883
They are permanent until you die
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>>554346883
>are the transcension device rewards just applicable in the temple? these can't be permanent buffs right?
They are largely total shit and go away after you die, they're a total meme
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>>554345862
https://youtu.be/rk93ApHWqSY?t=1255
>I was not involved in Path of Exile 2 itemization stuff in the last few years due to being away, but they've done an interesting thing in Path of Exile 2, let me see if I can get this right.
>You can't scour things back down to a base white item. And so in a game where crafting is very powerful, you need a supply of white items.
>And so you have a situation where if you find a a rare of that type on the ground, it's it's going to be fine. It's a rare item, of course, but you can craft a better one or potentially craft a better one if you know what you're doing. And so the white item is actually attractive because that lets, you do the whole crafting process.
>And so I've heard positive things about people being excited for white items in Path of Exile 2.
jonathan won
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>>554332748
Literally not an option, they cucked themselves living on a tiny island in the middle of nowhere. They cannot hire the people necessary to run one game let alone two.
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>>554347173
9% movement speed while sprinting was my first choice so maybe they're not all as good
seemed crazy to me if they were a permanent buff
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Easy solution: eos poe1 and tell the whiny cookie clicker babies to play Last Epoch
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can I use any of the melee spear skills for clear or do they all just suck for that purpose?

how does tribal fury/melee splash work exactly in poe2? is it just a little aoe around the target? what about the strikes that do aoe like rake?
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>>554347208
FAT FUCKING TROON > BALD FUCKING RETARD
HOLY
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>>554346575
And you're gay
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>>554347453
>eos poe1 and tell the whiny cookie clicker babies to play Last Epoch
This but unironically. Sadly LE is about to go the same way as poe (they got aquired by a chink company just recently).
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>chris likes good movement now
uh oh
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Does poe2 have stuff to enable chill, freeze, shock or ignite on chaos damage? Infernalist has the ignite for all damage but what else is there?
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>dog = poop1er
>cat = POE2 enjoyer
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funny how apparently it took chris a year to clear d4 campaign but it seems like this nigga is playing d2 all the fucking time. and on different patches.
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>it took chris a year to clear d4 campaign
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>>554350156
just imagine how shit it has to be if he couldnt sit down for 10h of content in a year
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>>554350156
his new game will be released by the time he makes it out of the poe2 campaign
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>>554334604
why do you need someone to explain it? it's fucking simple

you just need a lot of divs to buy all the omens you need that's the only thing stopping most people from making mirror tier items
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JONATROON
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>>554350859
chris' ideal arpg will be a hardcore mode for hytale
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>>554349549
Nobody here actually plays the game fyi
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>>554338414
It's fun in coop but the limbo mode was pretty stupid and we sort of ran out of difficulty with the normal difficulties. I don't think I'll play it again unless there's some big update with new shit. Maybe a balance patch would be enough to spice things up. It's a pretty easy game to break.
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>>554344364
you'd be surprised how hard it is to make a game that has a baseline passable level of quality that people are willing to even consider buying it

this genre in particular is content heavy and as such it is one of the more difficult types of games to make
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>>554349549
>Does poe2 have stuff to enable chill, freeze, shock or ignite on chaos damage?
Acolyte of Chayula
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pooe2 has no content
4 acts of an unfinished campaign
and a few mazes in 'endgame' to trap rats
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Gamers, I'm almost done with the interludes after act 4 for the first time. What the hell do I gotta do to get some more regal and exalted orbs? I've blown through most of them trying to get gear better than my level 20ish stuff.
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>>554353245
>no content
>4 acts of an unfinished campaign
>and a few mazes in 'endgame' to trap rats
that perfectly describes the first 4 years of poe and that shit was pure kino
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>>554352619
It's my impression that people are buying EA games that don't have that baseline passable level of quality, like Last Epoch or various crap on Steam.
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>>554353523
difference was poo1 was fun, but poo2 is not
they should probably work on that
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>>554353523
poe1's campaign was finished
they just added some extra garbage to it after act 4
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>>554353726
>>554354358
no it wasnt
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>>554354829
malachai was a much better ending than some literal who like kitava
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>>554352995
That indeed does do it but changing every 2 seconds would be really shit to build around.

Looking at the acolyte's volatility path does get me wondering realistically how much volatility can you get. Still, seems like it would be extremely ass to play as you have to wait for it to pop and only then do you get the damage buff.

To reply to my original question there are breachlord lineage supports that enable each of the elemental ailments on chaos.
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>>554355140
>does get me wondering realistically how much volatility can you get
All of it (like 200), people used it on flicker builds, generating passively while mapping and just fucking around with skeletons for 10 seconds to oneshot pinnacle bosses.
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>>554353686
the fact that people are buying them means that they passed that initial quality vibe check

I meant the sort of quality that is necessary before you can sell more than a handful of copies because making games is harder than people think
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Is there a way to make unearth prioritize aiming at dead bodies? it seems to just auto aim at enemies even if I click directly on a dead body behind me why did they make it a cone it worked so much better in POE1 as absolution
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>>554355283
>fucking around with skeletons for 10 seconds to oneshot pinnacle bosses.
That sounds like absolute cancer but also something I might do to see how big of an ignite I could chonk out.
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>>554353245
poe has gato sexo???
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is this game good yet or should i wait another year to reinstall? i last played during the first month of early access.
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>>554356367
poe1 is great yeah
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>>554356367
Poop 2 is exactly as shit as it was over a year ago. Currency exchange/asynch trading is the only improvement they managed to shit out. The game isn't likely to come out until 2028 so you can safely shelve it for another year. We're all here for bantz only the most schizo of autists actually play Poop 2.
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>>554356367
this thread is 90% of seething poo1 enjoyers who reply as you can see whenever someone asks about poe2 though I wouldn't be surprised if you're one of those seething poe1 enjoyers and posted that just so you could samefag it

poe2 is good and 0.4 is probably the best it's been though there's the issue with the economy right now which has both good and bad sides to it but it would be really easy to get started now as you can trade some armorer scraps for exalts and if you wanna make do without your level 4 spirit gem selling that gets you quite a bit of beginner funds
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>>554357527
can you post your poe2 character
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>>554356367
I'm on day 2 of coming back to it for the first time since the first month too, I feel like the games general feel and experience has improved a lot, like just the audiovisual feedback and movement and etc but it still has a lot of the same issues too
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>>554357762
>POST YOUR CHARACTER RIGHT NOW SO I CAN DOX AND STALK YOU FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS
t. seething poop1er
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>>554358364
shouldn't you be working on balance now, zaccie?
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>>554358425
>begins hallucinating
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>>554357762
why would I?
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>>554358519
I accept your concession.
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>>554347208
poe1ies love to cope about how everything bad is Jonathan's fault, but the truth is Mark and Chris prefer the game like this too. Poe1 was made because D3 sucked, but the modern poe1 gamer is the kind of person who just wants to play D3.
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comparison is the thief of joy
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sin is the thief of virtue
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>>554345040
I've been farming breach maps all day today and I have 2 omens of light jsut from random abyss overrun maps where I spawned the rare with the fart cloud. Anymore I just hang way back when the final wave comes up and I kill them out of the cloud on accident either way. Idk about forcing them to spawn tho abyss is really hit or miss.
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>>554344364
You're describing every millenial all white male fanbase genre.
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Pekora said PoE2 sucks
it's over
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>>554362021
Pekora is sucking my cock right now
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Has Quin mentioned which game he prefers yet? He's the only person I trust to make opinions for me
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specced more life nodes and swapped to a freeze build has solved my dying problem for now on my erika
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>>554362369
I didn't know monkeys were allowed to post here
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I made an ancestral cry/stampede build

Its shit.
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>>554363148
Sorry that your oshi is sucking monkey dicks bro
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its so joever
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>>554363563
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sanctum wonnered biggardlestly
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>sanctum won despite zoomzoom retards seething about it
>poe2 won despite zoomzoom retards seething about it
noticing
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sanctum has been ruined forever lol wdym? The relic is like 30 divs now instead of 2
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holy fuck once your build is good enough to juice some maps and make some coin to get good gear you're basically playing a totally different game
i went from t14s and t15s with a couple mods to fully juiced 9 mod maps with like 50-80% increased rares and abyss spawning 4-6 abyssal rares after spending a few div for a couple uniques and now i'm steamrolling shit and made like 100 div today
and i'm not even farming temple that shit is boring af
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I just think the Lab is better than Sanctum, Ultimatum, and TotA.
Simple as.
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>>554365431
how do you get up to 9 mods
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>>554365446
its worse than trial of the sekhemas thougheverbeit
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>>554365446
Lab doesn't speak to me.
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>>554365697
idk i just slammed them with currency
some only got to 6 with 0 revives, a few ended up with 9
i can check if i was recording and screencap the mods
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>>554365973
i typically just spam an inventory of maps with alchemies, exalts, and vaals
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>>554365973
Just because it has 9 lines doesn't mean it has 9 mods. You have to hold alt and see the hybrid ones
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>>554365837
Izaro talks to you a lot thoughbeit
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>1 map takes ~5 minutes
>3-5 breaches per map, 20+ splinters per breach plus currency
It's crazy how cheap you can get this tech going in breaches too.
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>>554366196
maybe that's it then idk
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>>554366542
try for liek 30% pack size 40% rare monsters 60% magic 80% rarity or more
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/poeg/ SUFFERS... FOR WHAT PURPOSE? WHAT REASON?
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but 4.0 never came.
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Asmongold abandoned us.
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>>554366712
YOU WANT /poeg/?
TAKE IT, IT'S YOURS.
BUT THE TUB? THE TUB I WILL SHIT ALL OVER. PERHAPS THE SMELL OF MY FECES WILL FINALLY STIR SOMETHING...
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>>554366712
>>554366827
>>554366929
ALL SHITPOSTS MADE, REMAIN.
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>>554366929
Tri, Awakener of the Tub
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I still can't believe how shit Sirus' design was
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>>554367368
I hate how unconnected the Maven/Eater/Exarch feel to the original Shaper->Elder->Conquerors storyline.
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jonathan won
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3907125
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Black queen
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>>554367719
nvke
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>>554367719
i don't listen to nonwhites
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>>554367719
didn't read but trvke
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TICK TOCK JONATHAN
NO REST FOR THE WICKED IS #WINNING
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>>554369030
Tri is on track to save every single ARPG in existence
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Ok temple needs to go next league or be seriously nerfed. It makes the whole game fucking trivial

I was leveling my hcsff today and got to maps, started doing temples on the side while doing the atlas and suddendly I'm level 81 without much effort
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>>554371875
everything added before 1.0 is going core lil gup
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holy shit this general is dead lmao
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>>554363563
Stop making her look hotter than she is. The real one has a freaky face, she's a 3 at best probably a 2 without good lighting and make up.
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>>554374037
the real one looks like piratesoftware tbqh
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>>554374037
I saw her in real life and she's a 9/10
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>1500 divine orbs for 10$
>Mirror 25$
Are these prices much lower than usual even for this far into the season?
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>>554374581
I sold my stash about 2 weeks ago and all I could afford was a BK combo meal. It's grim. I imagine the rates are even worse now
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>>554374581
theres no content to even rmt for idk man
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>>554374581
i dunno, i remember a mirror being thousands of dollars when early access launched. i didn't play any of the other leagues
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reinstalled torchlight infinite and deleted it in 10 minutes. it really is the worst arpg ever made isn't it?
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Temple is unintentionally destroying rmt in this game. How can you make a living when you know all the prices will spike 3 weeks into every league now?
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>>554374581
all the t0 uniques are fucking worthless, high tier currency is 100x more available than in any previous league, ggg are literally seething and malding so hard they're doing stealth nerfs even a month in to try and staunch the bleeding. they will NEVER let a league mechanic ever be good again after this mess.
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>the best warrior builds are playing as an animal with talismans or using a quarterstaff
the absolute fucking state of this game lmoa
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>>554376142
Any build that doesn't look cooler than comet rain from now on is DOA
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>>554374581
It's what happens when you make a mechanic give out a billion fucking divines per hour and then go on vacation so the problem compounds 1000x like retarded fucking swedes
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I'm gonna play blizzless d2r I think
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>>554375802
That won't happen
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>>554356367
It will never be good.
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>>554376142
the best warrior build is still shield wall
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>>554376142
its actually bear or slam. but both are still slow.
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>played 0.1 - sorc spark with magic find gear to clear out maps
>played 0.4 - djinn with magic gear to clear maps

fucking hell GGG cmon
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D4 has more interesting gear and builds than PoE 2.
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People actually thought wasd movement would suck in poe2 kek
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WSAD adds absolutely nothing to the game.
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>I won't go back to poe1 because there no wasd movement
Reddit, probably
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>>554380154
Yes and no, it has more but it's much more pigeon holed. You are meant to do one thing with most gear. You can't just take some gear and make a unique build with it.
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>>554380154
At least in d4 crafting isn't an incredibly expensive end game activity that requires a second monitor with 7 wiki tabs and 3 YouTube tutorials open just to make a weapon with 4 desirable mods.
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D4 has no endgame. What it does, it does quite well, but it's as deep as a puddle wide as the ocean kind of thing
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Why is BFR giving llama exclusive interviews
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>>554381429
i hate the crafting in both games desu. poe2 is far too fucking complicated and d4 (i haven't played since they introduced tempering) was too rng based
crafting being such an important and core mechanic of the game is the problem. d2 didn't suffer from this. crafting was just something you could do to make some nice amulets or reroll charms and stuff. should've been left there. runewords and uniques were so kino (uniques in poo2 for the most part are so dogshit)
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>>554381910
It has 10x the endgame of poe 2 and this isn't debatable. The coming expansion will add even more. At this point poe 2 is so far behind the curve it might never catch up if blizzard doesn't fuck up.
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>>554381979
You leave llama alone
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>>554382182
>run pits level 50
>get showered with legendaries
>run pits level 100
>get showered with the exact same legendaries
lel
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did i somehow search the tree wrong or is this literally the only node that increases spirit?
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>>554382135
They went in the opposite direction, the crafting is purely deterministic and you can't fail. It doesn't take any understanding you just pick the stat you want to boost and spend the resources and it goes up.
They did add an extra crafting element this season that is kind of fun. It's a gamble that can either give you a big boost or fuck your shit up. In a game with almost no challenge it's almost like different version of combat. But overall crafting isn't something you can really get deep into if you are autistic for that.
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>>554382275
You haven't played in a long time there is a lot more to do now.
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>>554382135
I played a shitload of 3 and 4 on launch. I like what they did with the cube, and having most of your gimmicks come from legendary powers or sets. But for me an arpg is a bit soulless if the BiS build isnt some random rares you never heard of with insane stat lines that don't even really make sense because most people have never taken the build that far.
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>>554382317
You can get tons of flat spirit on body or neck if you need it.
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>>554382585
I will look for it, thank you
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>>554382496
not my problem
should've fucking shipped with more stuff to do
i ain't paying for 2 expansions to have an endgame
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>>554382496
Isn't there a whole new expansion to buy now tho? I really wish I could have refunded that shit game I was so fucking desperate for it to be good.
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>>554382708
Two expansions but I'm pretty sure you can get a bundle that includes both. I'm not defending the game, it made a ton of mistakes and I mostly hate it. Just saying that they did eventually add some stuff to do. It doesn't hold a candle to poe 1 but it's more than 2 has at the moment.
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>>554382868
d4 is a finished game and has been for quite some time
poo2 isn't (charging to early access not withstanding)
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>>554382868
>Bundle
Lol. I will never purchase more blizzslop out of principle.
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>>554382868
ive got a bundle for you right here *unzips*
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>>554383465
It's not a bundle. Blizz does the same thing with WoW apparently where if you buy the newest goyslop, you get the older goyslop, too.
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>>554382317
There's barely any Spirit nodes on the tree at the moment because Templar isn't out yet
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What's the deal with last epoch? It looked so appealing before it was out on steam why did everyone get bored so fast?
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>sleepoch
>look appealing
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>>554383624
It's a worse version of D4 at this point unfortunately. The game showers you in loot to the point of absurdity.
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>>554383595
Haha oh so they expect me to pay twice and new niggers just pay once absolutely fucking typical. You know when that company went to shit? They used to give you the game and 1 month of free time. Now you buy a wow xpac AND your 15$ sun on top the fucking SNAKES
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>>554383680
Well this was like, I mean I'm talking about like 8 years ago sis, maybe longer. Or did I get time warped the wrong way on this one and epoch has been out for like 6 months?
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>>554383624
Because ironically, the devs gave in to player demands over the years and desu the game just has no vision whatsoever
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With travel nodes on the tree, should I be taking attributes for skill gems outside my specialty? I'm minion witch so I have alot of int but I wanted a support gem that needed dex, should I get some here that way? does it even make a big difference really?
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>>554383595
>It's not a bundle. Blizz does the same thing with WoW apparently where if you buy the newest goyslop, you get the older goyslop, too
Anon... what do you think the word bundle means? You just defined it and said it wasn't it. I think you should probably invest some of your gaming money into a community college english course.
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>>554383895
Player demands killed d4. Those live streams were like pulling teeth. At least blizzard make them take public responsibility for killing such a beloved franchise.
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ok help a retard out understanding this
my wand gives me gain % of damage as extra lightning
if i used this lineage support would i actually get the gain chaos damage?
the skill itself doesn't do lightning damage, but i gain extra lightning damage from the wand
i don't have the divs to actually buy and test it so i need to figure out if it's worth saving up for or if i'm actually just retarded and it won't work
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>>554384009
Yes attributes are for gems and gear. Very rarely something else. My build is using a noteable that gives me bonuses for having 10 gems of red and green equipped, but otherwise they only give small amount of mana or health.
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>>554383624
Waiting for next season like I wait for PoE leagues, might play my favourite brand of deception runemaster again or maybe something else if they introduce some cool new skills
Also all the classes still need more skills to be QUITE honest, and I'm not really taken with this paid alternate class idea but I'll wait to see what it's like before I shit my pants
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>>554384403
You would do 40% of 26% of your original damage, I think. Do you need chaos to activate something?
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>>554384521
>Paid alternate class
That makes my dick soft.
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>>554384387
that's what happens when you don't have a small, tight knit team of *talented* developers who are absolutely sure of what they like and want to make. It's why vanilla wow was successful. even they took feedback from players but they absolutely did not compromise on some things and the game was better for it
there was even a book that talked about this, i forget the name of it. something about how players don't know what they want and if you give it to them it just kills their interest in the game
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>>554384657
my whole build is chaos damage
chaos bolt is my main skill
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>>554384959
>something about how players don't know what they want and if you give it to them it just kills their interest in the game
It's a balancing act, you can't completely ignore the players wishes either. That's how you get retarded shit like them telling the people they don't want classic wow and it ended up being a huge hit.
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>>554384992
I'm pretty stupid but half of 20% of your damage is nothing? Just get more spell crit and levels on your weapon or something
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>>554384959
Yes well this whole design structure these days is completely fucked. Developers don't even have a concept of what a finished game is anymore.

Every single blizzard PC game was perfect out of the box up to and including StarCraft 2.
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>>554384403
I'm pretty sure all the "extra damage as x" calcs happen at the end at once and don't feed into/convert each other
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>>554384403
You would gain chaos damage from Esh's Radiance if the skill you're using has lightning from its base damage in the first place (ie. Spark) but Chaos Bolt wouldn't get the 40% as extra chaos from Esh's. Just get POB anon
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>>554385281
Well that circles back to having a proper team with good talent and a real vision. It's just a matter of filtering out the retardedly egregious shit that players want and acting on actual good feedback. But modern Blizzard quite literally caved to redditors and look where that got them
>classic wow
It was a huge hit because Nost was gone and people were so over retail circa WoD. WoW had become dogshit. And big surprise, the current WoW team fumbled Classic pretty hard (despite this it still did very well) and now is just a perverted money printing scam with boosts and whatnot
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>50m shipment
Let's see how this goes. I'll post results tomorrow.
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>>554385303
yeah looking at the tool tip makes it a bit more obvious that it would do fuck all (if it worked in the first place)
i just went through my tree and min/maxxed the fuck out of my damage, just trying to think of anything interesting to add more
>>554385538
ok that's what i was afraid of
i do proc lightning bolt from choir of the storm cause my chaos bolt has 100% crit chance, so i could use it there, but even then the damage gain probably isn't worth 60+ div
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>>554386034
Idk can u fork your projectiles?
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>>554386083
no, i used to use gambleshot to fork/chain but now i have the lineage support that gives increased chance to fire 8 projectiles per cast, and the boots that give an overkill AOE for clear instead of forking
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>>554385841
F in advance for your 0 mirror shards
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>>554386345
Quite possibly. I received 2 last time.
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>>554385841
Tf is a shipment
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>>554384187
I think you should invest time into being less of a snarky faggot.
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>>554387206
I accept your concession eslkun.
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>>554387341
retard
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So is there any reason to go sorc over blood mage at all right now?
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>>554388180
Sorc is now a minion ascendancy. What are these niGGGers thinking?
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POOP
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whats a good shield wall warrior build to mindlessly follow?
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>>554388297
retard
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>no larry posting in a while
What happened, larryGAWDS, did you lose sight of the goddess?
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>>554392736
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larry is a man
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>>554393038
>my raging boner for those petite asscheeks tells me otherwise
nice try
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>>554393267
it's ok to be gay, but pretending you're not is wrong
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>>554393348>>554392736
>>554392976
>>554393038
>>554393267

>im about to breed with this
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>>554393669
enjoy
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>>554332580
>planning around random drops
this guy is obviously a mega retard
skill, spirit and support gems should be on vendors and should have a similar purchase requirement as poe1. transmutes, augs, regals instead of chance, alchs etc.
poe1 did it best, why fix what's not broken. another example of different for different sake in poe2.
god I hate fat mark and jonatroon.
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Fuck me lily is so fucking perfect
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>>554394758
retard
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peepeepoopoo
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my ap rounds are getting kind of nutty
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>>554396318
on god
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>>554396318
probably getting mogged by this
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>>554396009
Many are saying this
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Pee of Excrement Deuce
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>>554360950
If I understand correctly the map rolls if it's one of the three (or it can be none?) and then can only spawn that type.

Amanamu are the ones with the cloud but builds that blow shit up too fast might kill them before they get to spawn it which might hurt the loot. Or if you're melee you might kill them in the cloud accidentally. They're kinda annoying with how they keep remaking the cloud as well.
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>>554367909
>atziri has black hair not red hair
poe1 lied to us
tfw zana wasn't atziri
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>>554399491
https://poe2db.tw/us/Dominus_Grasp#DominusGraspSupportGemPietysMercy
Pretty sure it's this.
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>>554383601
templar will have an ascendancy that gives spirit based on your shield's stats and there will probably also be a node that gives shield skills scaling based on es on the shield IF templar also gets shield skills
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>>554383624
LE looks so fucking ugly I'm struggling to play it after PoE2.

>>554384009
If not CI most builds want just enough dex and int for all their requirements and then the rest goes into str because it gives you max life.

>>554384403
In PoE2 conversions happen first before any other calculations and "as extra" happen last and aren't affected by anything else. They're literally extra damage on top of everything else.
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super bummed that they announced druid as the new class for this league. was really hoping for templar/duelist/marauder. talismans arent even a real fucking weapon unlike swords/axes/flails
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>>554396318
some chud in poe ninja pushed it to 1m
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThYCp7bjDa0
I miss the GGG that had SOVL.
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>he has to reload his crossbow
LMAO
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guys, you don't get it. you see, by going down in players league over league, we will stay relevant forever. it's genius really.
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The last patch seriously fucked abyss farming and temple building, it feels so shit now
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fuck this game
whats the strongest, dumbest, easiest build to get thru the campaign with? I just want to be done with this garbage
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>>554404034
>seriously fucked abyss farming
how so?
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>>554404657
POE1 Sunder/slams
POE2 grenades (look up guythatdies' guide)
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>>554404657
tubbed tard
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>>554404657
>fresh
probably grenades as a mercenary so you can quickly grab the passives
>twinked
crossbows early on which can be swapped into bows or spears in act 2~4
or alternatively thunderstorm with the level 5 supports (coursing current, electromagnetism and shock conduction II) and some good gear and you want frostbomb for exposure and there's a variety of spells you can use for some extra damage if you feel like you need it but it should shit on almost everything in the game if you don't fuck it up somehow
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it is over.
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>>554398473
>Galvanic shart
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>>554405806
6 chains, a fork, cleares screens ahead with 1 tap
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>>554405959
But it makes you gay
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>>554406095
how so?1
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>>554405563
Why is he touching himself while in the shit tub?
Also, which ai tool are you guys using for these, legit question
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>>554406145
by being a too good of a build for anon
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>>554406247
that's not shit, that's just a mud bath. those are pretty healthy.
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>>554406280
ok, but how das that relate to homosexuality?
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>>554406145
Real men use shitty skills and WORK for their clear.
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>>554406839
no, retards do that.
smart people use good skills.
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>>554406880
Don'talk to me unless you break the arm-our of EVERY mob, load a new clip and THEN kill the monster with high velocity rounds.
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>>554407012
i break armour on rares via the charm
what you described sounds like a dumbass playstyle that spends 15 minutes in 1 single map
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>>554407012
you're supposed to break the armour, high velocity them for the debuff and then shoot them with a fast firing shot to finally kill them
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>you're supposed to brush your teeth by sticking a toothbrush up your ass until you can reach your teeth
gotcha
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>>554325187
Zacciebros....
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>>554407281
this is how you stay in the top 5 on steam btw
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>>554407184
kek
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>>554407346
No one is coming back for 0.5 lol
They will be lucky to make it in the top 30 games on steam.
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>>554407113
Oh shit right i'm still learning the rotation, hope to get it right by friday after watching some tutorials.
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>>554407486
you're retarded and don't understand how it works! you drop 20% of players per league and that's a good thing, you got no idea clearly.
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>>554407486
They'll probably change the endgame (although i think they like the big map thing which is probably the broader problem). The numbers will probably be similar. I think the real problem is the campaign, i don't enjoy it its total suffering when you start and i'm not going to play it. Dunno how they fix that because that's what they want it seems
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>>554407625
endless atlas stays, that's pretty well known
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The endgame now has a pretty decent skeleton (2 different kinds of trials, 1 dungeon-building mechanic in the form of the Vaal Temple, a few mapping league mechanics, a few Atlas-specific mechanics like anomalous maps and unique maps, pinnacle bosses that can drop loot, logbooks), and while it's not quite POE1 level of content diversity, it's no longer totally barren with no options.
What would you say is actually missing?
For me, it's more difficulty+more interesting mechanics in maps (e.g. Betrayal, altars). I think the game would genuinely benefit from a hard/ruthless mode for those who want it, and a normal mode where they can cater to people who want stuff like infinite support gems etc.
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>>554407625
I see all these complaints about the campaign but it's a mindset issue. You think you should hit maps in 4 hours because you're used to that from PoE1. You don't have to rush. The campaign in PoE2 was made to be enjoyed. It's a journey, not a chore.

Of course you're gonna hate it when you constantly think about how you could already be mapping.
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I like poe2!
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im a new player, is it too late to start this league? will i still be able to buy decent rares while leveling for like 1-3 exalts, or has the inflation affected that?
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>>554343952
wtf? poe exist only because chris gambled a unique bow in d2 demo where everyone was only limited to a lv1 barb and he was killing people with explosive arrow barb
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>>554408326
I think the endgame isn't awful now, the real issue is that 95% of the skills feel like shit to use, either being too slow or doing no damage
The fact that you have to use combos just limits the amount of skills to use even further
Like if they add 6 new skills but it's really 2 combos you only really have 2 new skills
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>>554408332
>You think you should hit maps in 4 hours because you're used to that from PoE1
I think I should hit maps in 4 hours because if I'm playing a game whose only attractive point is character building then I should be able to build my character as soon as possible instead of having to slog through Jonathan's CINEMATIC and VISCERAL campaign with whatever shitty placeholder skills he's given me until I unlock the stuff I actually intend to build around
Why is Poo2 pretending to be a cinematic AAA story RPG? Literally nobody wants it to be that, and nobody cares for its story
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>>554408350
He looks so happy
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>>554408453
Late starts are basically easier because the market is saturated with hand-me-down gear.
That said if you need to buy gear in the campaign, you're doing something wrong, it's so fucking easy and gambling some gear yourself makes it more fun.
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the endgame will always feel like dogshit with the endless atlas and zero map layout selection.
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>>554408649
thank you, seems my worries were unfounded then. also, do you know how long this league will last?
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>>554408846
do some math faggot. it's been out for a bit more than a month and it's gonna last for 4
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>>554408625
Yeah I think the low number of skills in this game is really detrimental to its longevity, it definitely needs way more.
I think it's a little regrettable that they settled on this concept where they make a weapon type and make a fancy animation for each individual skill, and then give all those skills very specific combo interactions that limit their use.
They should either make skills a lot more modular with support gems (like being able to completely remove or change lines on a skill), or they should just create a few variations of existing skills, in the vein of trans gems.
Like an Earthquake with no delay, or volcano that isn't channeled, or stuff like that.
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>>554408905
>more skills
>there will still be 1-3 skills per weapon to play and the rest doesn't have the support
hmmmm
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>>554408846
Think it's months from now, you have a lot of time.
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>>554408893
>>554409005
thanks
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>>554408642
>I think I should hit maps in 4 hours
ok, then do it
https://youtu.be/HHgj_fpj4g4?si=vV287PAltXKRun8S
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>>554408332
the moment you do it for the 3th 4th or 5th time and just deal with it to get to endgame it becomes a chore, no matter how "good" or "engaging" it is. as a matter of fact,t he more engaging it is the more it makes you not wanna play it again.
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>>554408642
>then I should be able to build my character as soon as possible
You can start building your guy right in A1. You kill the Miller and you have a limited amount of gold to spend, and you immediately have choices to make, because how you spend that gold is gonna possibly either save you a lot of time by stopping you from dying or helping you kill minibosses quicker, or it will potentially let you get better loot if you go for rarity.
I'll give you that it's not fun to wait to unlock all kinds of gems. But in terms of actually engaging with character building, POE2 starts that right in the campaign and you can really feel the difference between doing it well and doing it poorly.
POE1 isn't like that because it's too easy and you're just gonna destroy it almost no matter what.
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>>554409419
anon, if you wanna build a character that uses a skill that gets available at level 50 or whatever it is then you don't get to build your character at level 1. at level 1 you build another character that gets to level 50 (the level you get to actually play your build) as fast as it can.
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>>554409496
I already acknowledged that part as unfun so you're preaching to the choir.
I just think there's actually something good to engage with in the POO2 campaign and I think people who hate it are probably not engaging with it enough and getting frustrated when their power fizzles out in a2 or whenever.
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>>554409713
i wanna see you say that it's fun after you've completed it 10 or 20 times and just wanna get it over with, chud
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>>554408326
Serious question.
Why is it taking them so long to design an acceptable endgame?
There's anons in this very general that came up with something better than what we have right now like 2 weeks into 0.1.
Literally just 1:1 porting over PoE 1s endgame system would be 0 effort and an insane improvement.
What is taking them so long??
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>>554410084
it's pretty clear they like the endless atlas and don't want you to be able to spam good maps constantly. (which is understandable from a devs pov, but as a player it's unacceptable)
also, porting over something from poe1 would mean that they can't complete their core directive: be different than poe1 at all costs.
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>>554409805
I have done it more times than that by now, probably like 6 times just in Fate+private league. I really don't hate the POE2 campaign. It has problems but I can get enjoyment out of it every run. I just like the progression, and I like the content (zones, boses etc).
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>>554410084
porting over poe1 end game would be accepting defeat. nigggers are way too proudy to do that, especially mark.
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>>554410387
It has the same problems as any game with a distinct endgame: the campaign does not matter, and is just a stepping stone to keep you from the endgame, the part you wanna actually get to.
making that stepping stone more of a challenge (lol) or more engaging (lol) is not a solution to the problem.
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>>554410084
Constantly reinventing the wheel and then reinventing it again based on community bitching is an arduous process even for a massive team, never mind the crunching skeleton crew they're obviously working with.

>There's anons in this very general that came up with something better than what we have right now like 2 weeks into 0.1.
Realistically speaking, that would've probably been torn apart by the community just like the current endgame. It's hard to design a good endgame with broad appeal, and they made it doubly harder by trying to not retread the path of POE1.
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>>554410217
retard
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>>554410217
>which is understandable from a devs pov, but as a player it's unacceptable
Imagine if League and Dota forced you to play a different hero every game, even if you don't want to.
Couterstrike just randomly bans specific guns every round.
Need for Speed forces you to do the boring Underground maps.
Imagine if PoE 1 forced you to run Cells.
Funnily enough, Cells would be an S tier layout in PoE 2.
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>>554410579
but it solves any and all diversity problems in your game. every dev drools to get to that point, ggg is just retarded enough to think forcing it is a good way to get there.
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>>554410528
I don't think stepping stones have to be inherently bad.

>making that stepping stone more of a challenge (lol) or more engaging (lol) is not a solution to the problem
You say (lol) but it absolutely is a solution to me, I like doing POE2's campaign like 100 times more than doing POE1's campaign, and I do a lot of both because I like both games and reroll at the drop of a hat.
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>>554410217
>which is understandable from a devs pov
are "game devs" even human?
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>>554410890
the stepping stones in poo2 are not really hard or challenging, they are just that much more annoying than they need or should be.
it's an ok one playthrough game, but it just becomes retarded on multiple playthroughs.
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>>554410680
fucking with map equity and adding the favorite system was a huge mistake. when it wasn't so powerful and you could just nudge your endgame selection in the direction you wanted it was fine, it's too deterministic now.
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>>554411139
too deterministic for what, exactly? what's the point of making players run layouts they don't wanna run?
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>>554410951
>the stepping stones in poo2 are not really hard or challenging
It doesn't matter how you describe the difficulty, the reality of POE2's campaign is that it's easy and fast with a good build and good gear, and it's more difficult and slower with a bad build and bad gear. For me, it's stuff like the difference between killing Jamanra in one try easily, or actually having to reset the fight once or twice.
None of that is "difficulty" in a sense that it's hard to overcome and that it could filter me, but it's tuned well enough that I am encouraged to engage with itemization and gem choice, and not just do it all on autopilot and not upgrade anything for 5 acts.

>it's an ok one playthrough game, but it just becomes retarded on multiple playthroughs.
Dunno I can do it for the rest of my life, I just dread that they will keep bending the knee to whiners and making it easier and easier to the point you'll just be able to click things randomly and breeze through it.
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>>554411195
why was it bad when everyone played lightning spear?
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>>554411334
i don't hate the difficulty, i hate the backtracking, forced npc interactions and the roleplay you have to wait for.
also the map layouts are big shit with their dead ends and "fun events" that do nothing except adding some spice to the layouts (which is worthless to me)
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>>554411423
why are you equating playing their own favourite map to playing the exact same build? those things are not even remotely the same.
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>>554411562
didn't we just see people flip their shit over running the same zone over and over, why was holten bad?
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>>554412073
while i personally don't have a problem with it, the issue with holten wasn't "people running it", it was "people farming crystals for temple" and it requiring some degenerate gameplay (leveling a new character, dying in temple to lose xp) that pissed people off.
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>>554411475
>i hate the backtracking
I don't experience much of it other than the stupid A1 grim tangle/tree of souls stuff.

>also the map layouts are big shit with their dead ends
Yeah but I kinda learned them so I'm not noticing this problem as much. I think randomized layouts is pretty pointless.
As for random events, some of it serves a purpose, like giving you a guaranteed currency of item type predictably, so you can skip it based on whether you need it or not, so that's ok in my book.
But I don't like layout reading being a skill you need either, that much we probably agree on.
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>holten is the same as running the same map over and over
what a sweet disingenuous thing to say, i like you, you sly jew
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>>554412343
opinion about the size of areas and length of the whole thing?
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>>554412164
>>554412358
if you could turn every map into confluence people would do the same thing, open map, run to crystal spawn, leave, open new confluence.
wouldn't that piss people off too? i'm afraid i don't see much of a difference aside from zone level.
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>>554412484
You totally ignored the part where holten is a level 65 max zone, and only gave you crystals until level 75 so you had to do degenerate shit to stay level 75 or lower. The real degenerate shit was people leveling fresh chars to that level and selling the zone resets
In maps, you run out of waystones if you do that too much, and everyone can do that.
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what if they made 15 good map tile set instead of making 5 good ones and 10 dogshit ones
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>>554412798
sorry what? you want 15 bad map tiles?
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>>554412698
you could do the holten strat in any zone in the campaign, people did it in holten because it was the best layout.
if you let people pick the best layout they will only run the best layout.
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>>554412963
that is also wrong, holten itself is not a good layout. the thing that made holten stand out was that the league mechanic always spawned 5 meters from the waypoint, predictably.
the easy fix is not to force a different map every run, but to make the spawn actually random (and they did that now)
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>>554412467
>opinion about the size of areas
Totally fine, size actually doesn't matter to me on its own, I just need them to have encounters and not force me to walk back. There are areas I would want improved (I hate Traitor's Passage for example), and I think cutting monsters out of the Count's Mansion was a total fucking mistake, that zone feels empty now.

>length
I have no problems with it because i feel like i have a lot of agency over how long it takes. I wouldn't cut anything other than forced timewasting stuff (having to visit the tree of souls and talk to Una in clearfell, Halani gates fuckery, black screens during A2 travel, insanely long A4 boss monologue sequences etc).
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>>554413039
>random spawns are good! NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!!
atoll isn't a good map in poe1 but everyone used it to farm harvest because mechanics spawn in predictable places in maps.
if you could pick every map you ran people farming crystals wouldn't pick a "good layout", they would pick a layout that spawned the mechanic close to the waypoint.
if they were farming breach and abyss they would run something like confluence.
if they were farming deli they would run ravine.
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>>554412798
Good layouts tailored for the content that you want to run are actually bad because they just are. Don't think about it.
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>>554413457
yes, but not really:
1) atoll is an endgame map, so you don't have to do degenerate, unintuitive gameplay to abuse it
2) the chance is very high to spawn your mechanic at the start, but it was not a guarantee
again, what are you even trying to prove here? holten and map selection are not the same thing, and will never be.
also: what exactly is bad about people selecting a good layout for the content they run? there is no downside to it, except for "people won't see muh bad layouts we put so much work into", which is not really a downside unless you're an artist with an ego.
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>>554413457
what's bad about playing efficiently when that's your thing? nobody keeps you from running shitty maps, why force everyone into it?
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I have difficulties in adding more rooms to my temple. I’ve had the Spymaster at the end for quite some time, and it doesn’t seem like I can get my snake to run in parallel at all (hence the 1 square gap after the first lap).

It’s probably a sub-optimized temple overall, but every run I get about 5 raw divs and a huge amount of valuable loot so I’ve done something right.

I just want to be able to continue building my snake, and happy for any tips.

PS sorry for image quality
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>>554413651
>what exactly is bad about people selecting a good layout for the content they run?
idk what is wrong with people farming holten, foothills or the quarry, is it only bad if the zone has a low monster level?
and if poe 2 players were that upset over farming the same zone over and over, why wouldn't they react the same way to people farming the same map over and over?
can't have your cake and eat it too.
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>>554414067
>and it doesn’t seem like I can get my snake to run in parallel at all (
you need sacrificial chamber lil gupta
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>>554414398
again leaving out the part about the degenerate gameplay of keeping your level low, you're not gonna learn are you?
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>>554414067
Wait a minute, this is just Lake of Kalandra if he Atzoatl
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>>554415164
the only reason the kept themselves at a low level was so they could farm the same layout repeatedly. when you give people the ability to minmax one layout they become degenerate.
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>>554416084
it's degenerate gameplay that's the issue (e.g. dying to stay eligible for mechanics), not the farming of the zone itself.
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>>554416308
I haven't said this in a while but where do you think you are?>
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>>554416308
so the people in full light radius gear to show the spawn location of crystals is degenerate? they die a lot.
if you die in the game you should die in real life.
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hcssf fixes this btw
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How exactly do I get the maul skill for bear? I transform into a bear but don't have the option for the skill?
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>>554416735
yes, it is degenerate. moreso than just running the same layout, because running the same layout doesn't incentivize building your character in an unintuitive way.
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>>554417779
That sounds sovl just like negative rarity farming idk what the problem is?
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>>554417682
You can put it on your hotbar, just click it and find it while in bear form.
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>>554417842
it somewhat is. but yeah, there is no real argument against letting you influence the map layouts you want to run and not run
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>>554417976
I don't see it in my hotbar or in my gem list while in bear form.
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larry's a man
also, on another note, what games are there to play?
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>>554418105
>running the same layout is degenerate if it is in a way that i personally don't like
lmao
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>>554418280
you gotta find new ways to be dishonest, it's not working out for ya
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when 3.28 sirs
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>>554418225
Unequip all weapons.
Equip a talisman in weapon set 1
Click wolf then click bear form on the talisman
Click one of the buttons on your hotbar and look for it again

These things bug out sometimes, so doing what I wrote should help reset it.
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Guys do you have a screenshot of GGG dev dashboard? The one that had user profile info with checkboxes that showed if user RMTs or not and stuff like that?
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>>554418471
Ah, that worked - thanks anon
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>>554418424
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3905372
if only you could read, retard
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>>554418370
i'm running a blink autobomber, on average i'm in a 6 mod map for less than 20 seconds when i'm farming crystals. i don't care about layouts, isn't that more degenerate than spending 40 minutes in holten for 60 crystals?
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>>554418653
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>>554418264
>obsessed with trannies
Who hurt you lil gup? This is a safe space
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>>554418704
retard
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>>554418870
What are the actual chances of being banned if you sell currency say twice per season? Either by buying something way overpriced or just straight up trade window to the buyer.
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>>554419153
How big are we talking? I used to sell about 5 mirrors per league and account is still fine.
I think they don't even ban old accounts, they just flag them and lower the drop rates.
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I didn't like poe2 so I started playing another game.
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I'm not having fun.
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>>554419583
they never should have let good characters recruit minthara
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>>554419390
nothing serious just some scraps I might have at the right time.
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Sex with Viper Napuatzi
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>>554420039
this, but with lilly
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Sex with Esh's hysterical voice actress
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Feels kind of lame that you still stack ES on blood mage even though they are all about leeching life
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>>554419437
wholesome and un-mazed
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>>554419437
this
I'm playing hytale and the legend of heroes trails beyond the horizon
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>>554419390
i think they are just running a panopticon.
banned ziz for flask macro(false positive)
banned kingkongor for clicking macro(false positive)
banned badger for rmt(false positive)
thats enough of a deterrent for the average person thinking about breaking the tos. ironically the badger rmt ban kind of fucked them because it confirmed that they only flag large or repeated one sided trades.
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>make your white items tink
but usually what I look up might be worth 5 ex or less. Occasionaly 1-2 chaos, even on exceptional socketed items. How do I sus out what is actually worth money and worth a tink?ilvl 81 is the minimum right?
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>>554421429
imagine getting falsely banned but you aren't a streamer lol
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>>554419583
I switched from cometcuck sorc to allah minioncuck sorc and i'm having fun, it's amazing how better the game is on some builds.
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>>554421062
I'm glad they do because my retarded build doesn't leech life
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>>554421924
you get 10% leech life from the ascendancy's first 2 points
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>>554422096
i put all my ascendency points into crit and life for extra crit damage
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>>554421672
just look up what builds are meta and what bases people are using, for example the sinister quaterstaff is bis, a white ilvl 82 with 3 sockets is over 1k div.
ilvl 82 dueling wand with 2 sockets is 800d
ilvl 82 galvanic wand with 2 sockets is 20-30d
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I love how blood mage is a better caster at casting elemental spells than the stormweaver
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>>554422661
Limit stacking stormweaver is pretty great though, and gets online much earlier than bloodmage builds.
Bloodmage is always gonna be a very competitive class cuz it has inbuilt scaling and leech.
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karui teenagers stole my exalts yesterday
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>mana drain aura
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>>554423026
What do you do for stormweaver defences? Just stack life and either ES or Evasion?
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>>554423335
Depends what you're doing, the class is kinda conducive for MoM so there's that angle, and if not, just ES stacking, either CI or with memes where you use life for casting (now that there's so much support for it). Pure life SW seems dog to me cuz you'll have no recovery or avoidance and a small pool without str stacking or ascendancy shit that enables life stacking.
You can play every top side char by just pumping ES and damage more or less, same thing with SW.
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>>554385841
>>554385841
>>554385841
one mirror shard
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>breach has 28% chance to spawn additional breach
>breach has 9% chance to spawn three additional breaches
>+2 clasped hands per breach
>breach has 28% chance to spawn additional breach
>breach has 9% chance to spawn three additional breaches
>+3 clasped hands per breach
>breach has 28% chance to spawn additional breach
>breach has 9% chance to spawn three additional breaches
laughs in currency
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>>554325187
>Two more months of waiting
Waiting for?
Act V? Swords and Axes?
I don't see shadow class and traps in the near future.
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Life regen, life leech, and life gain are all different right?
Trying to figure the best way to incorporate leech and apply to my ES using my current gear without adding uniques
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>>554424073
Good thing I offered you an F in advance now, isn't it
RIP my lad
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>>554424073
lol shipments are poe1? I thought that was some torchlight crap
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>>554424582
The sacred orbs could have been mirror shards.
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>>554424229
We are waiting for poo1 kino league 3.28 will be amazing
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As long as I receive a mirror shard I'm happy. I've had a dud in the past and that sucks. That's the alt-f4 moment.
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>>554331880
NOOO I NEED TO TALK ABOUT RANDOM SHIT IN TRADE CHAT I HAVE ZERO FRIENDS
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>>554425714
Nah GGG is mad draconian. You shouldn't defend their shitty policy
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How do I make a good minion sceptre in SSF?
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>>554426963
i will defend that part of their policy. if you want to talk to people, use global chat. trade chat is for trading.
i played hc trade 1 league and this shit annoyed me to no end. you actually need to use trade chat because the economy is too small. i want to see wtb / wts messages and not random blogposts
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>>554428347
Use async and CE nigga
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>>554363563
Hol up! @Grok is this real? Oh mama!
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>>554428347
we need refuge from the mean ssf players who will bully us in global
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>>554374581
Dude you get like at least 200 raw divines per vaal temple run if it's setup correctly.
Dead game with dead economy
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>at least 200 raw divines per vaal temple run
Subhuman brown tranny retard tourist...
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>>554424108
mmmmm witch's dfc
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idk if i have the strength to do naveria fracturing anymore ..
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>>554428428
faustus doesnt work very well in small economies
theres so few players that many items simply dont have an order placed so you cant buy them instantly, 10 slots isnt enough for how many currencies the game has. essences, fossils, tattoos, shit like that. the guy farming scarabs gets 100 different scarabs and he can only list a few of them.
you can list currency in public tabs but its real fucking annoying to price everything. prices are also kinda weird in small economies like that. much easier to just see a "wtb harby scarabs 5/2/10/20c ea" message in trade chat and decide if you like those prices.
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Why did the pohx league die



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