progress edition>Demo days Next: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66>/v/3's Jamhttps://itch.io/jam/v3jam>AGDG resources https://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful links New Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebM https://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>554238396
oh you motherfuckers, listen: steam revenue calculator says trainwiz made 43 fucking grand net from 366 reviews at $19.99. HE is fucking saying that he has fucking netted 300 fucking grand. now use your retarded brain and wonder for yourself for a moment, how in the FUCK, could he possibly net 300 fucking grand off of a review estimation of 43 fucking grand? riddle me that one, retards. we're talking 7 fucking times difference
>>554350686>>/v/3's Jam>https://itch.io/jam/v3jamtranny show btw
>>554351028How many times does he get fucking taxed? UK is horrifying. Is being American the only way to make money?
>>554350686>>554351193i knew this thread smelled funny now i know why. these fucking attention seekers just wait until that post count reaches 750 so they can force their shit tranny thread. so annoying, actual women
is we finna be postin progress in dem new threadz?
>>554351431under no circumstances would i ever share my game in this thread.
>>554351028>Steam is pocketing the "vat tax" money while passing the cost onto devsLOLOLL
>>554351431>finnapost that hand jamal, still waiting
>>554351346>actual women
are small or big gamedev thrusts better to hit that (g)amedev spot?
It's all fatfuck gabencunt's fault that half of the players who boughted my game closed it after only 16 minutes.
>>554351431Maybe tomorrow.
>>554351981she needs elf ears
>>554351028Oh. THE schizo is back.
tying to be original is what's killing you. just copy dark souls mechanics.
tying to be original is what's killing you. just copy pong mechanics.
>effortlessly make the nodevs seethe with the OPmy work here is done
>>554352957Don't copy the typo too
>>554353183Don't tell me what to do
>>554352845its been over a decade of dark souls how much more do we need
>>554353314your game needs to respawn enemies? bonfireyour game needs risk/reward? exp lost on deathyour game needs character builds? tie it to gear and having a certain number of stat points requiredlevel design? just connect everything together without caring
>>554353135you'll never be a woman
>>554352668that's miquella who is a boy
>>554354252thanks! buying the testosterone was expensive
>>554354012Fuck, it really is the perfect game isn't it.
>>554354345
>>554354915
I guess the only realistic way to make it nowadays is to use the easiest workflow I can imagine.Basically the oposite of enginedevs.
>>554351563Steam cultists will defend this
>>554355935cris you had 15 years
I have become a machine that turns good feedback into good game
>>554355935Why haven't you incorporated ai more? its perfect for you.
>>554351431I finna posted progress in the last thread and got zero (0) Yous
progress
>>554355935The most realistic way to make it is to stick to a single project and keep working on it
>>554357718That lighting is... awful. No way this is Unreal. But then even Unity lighting isn't that atrocious. Could.. could it be? No. Are you... actually using...??
>>554357718SOVL
Anyone want to team up to make a porn VN?
>>554357868Maybe for a low-IQ retard, so in Cris's case probably correct. For higher-IQs, the surest way to make it is to develop skills and hedge your bets between a broad portfolio of projects.
Just realised how much harder edge->ground navlinks will be versus edge->edge navlinks. And if they work they'll handle edge->edge by default. Everything I've done so far is a waste of time.
Why is that none of the imsim faggots here have ever talked about using local LLMs to enable actually emergent and immersive gameplay? A) They're all low-functioning autists and don't actually enjoy real immersive gameplay involving having real conversations with close-to-real humans.B) None of them make video games.C) All of the above.
>>554350686I wanna try out the Hexen 2 artstyle without making a huge project out of it.Do you think people will regard it as very sacrilegious if I waste it on a small roguelike/wave survior game?
>>554359521I have never seen /agdg/ talk about imsims
>>554359642>Do you think people will regard it as very sacrilegious if I waste it on a small roguelike/wave survior game?I don't see why anyone would as long as it's good.
>>554358331iq doesn't exist nonce. it's just a score for a given retarded test
>>554359662Then, you haven't been around /agdg/ long enough good for you
>>554359662hello new fuck.
>>554359835You can use whatever mechanism you like to describe Cris' "condition" it won't change reality
>>554318258>where fygoon?He got a cushy job and is earning money and probably going to the gym everyday, living in /fit/ and obsessing about getting a gf. When he pivots back to being fygoon and spending time on 4chan in the gamedev threads he probably feels less and less able to endure it without feeling disgusted.Good for him t b h
>>554360039wait... nvm >>731089817I still think the other parts are happening though.
>>554359835Go get a job as a teacher, tutor, or similar and you'll quickly learn that variance in inherent learning ability (as measured by IQ) is very very real. Cris's problem is that he's attempting to use high-IQ strategies without having the IQ necessary to execute upon them.
>>554360257umm >>>/v/731089817
>>554360403>these are the kind of posts people miss and are pining forgrim
>>554359662>imsimsWe had one dev obsessed with imsims. Actually posted progress regularly too
>>554360639He's doing better now, he used to have a physical need to be on every single page of the /v threads you couldn't look at another devs progress without seeing it sandwiched between his shitposts and repeat spam pictures. All I ever wanted was to see him evolve beyond the blatant attention whoring and I think he has done it. Which I ascribe to hormonal changes from becoming a /fit/dev more than anything. When your testosterone increases you stop seeking out certain histrionic behaviors. Also just comes with aging and maturity of course. And mentorship from peers.
>>554350686lol I love this OP image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrmkO0OPxeM
>>554360996Discussing T levels in a parasocial gossip queer post is a nice ironic touch. Thank you demiurge.
>>554361228That's Mr. Demiurge to you, pipsqueak.
>>554361228>Thank you demiurge.Any time bud
I just tried pic related and it reminded me a lot of /agdg/. It fell into the same common pitfalls DD games do (years spent polishing an overly complicated unfun game). I guess even pros make the same mistakes.
Cyberpunk 2077 has lots of gnostic symbolism in it including the Slaughterhouse fast food stuffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU2IQ9eNKhU>anon that's just a lion you know a carnivore eating meat you are schizoSilence, Hylic.
I laughed at the AI slop but I shan't give it a (You). Mustn't encourage it.
>>554359835>nonceWe don't use that word, 'shua. And yes IQ is very real it's why you got bodied when you attempted to actually make a real game in a real big boy engine and not your widdle mod.
how to get good free assets if you aren't an artist but also don't want to use AI
>>554363008Learn art.
>>554362937the guy you replied too isn't me, but stay buckbroken
New KINO from the king himselfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRjt505sPg
>>554362064>I guess even pros make the same mistakes.There is exactly, literally one mistake and it's not making YouTube videos. If they diced up the game and gave you 20 extra videos there would be 0 complaints.
>>554363312You fell into my trap exactly as planned 'shua.
>>554363008Use AI
>>554363837>more advertising will fix a shit game!As expected of /agdg/.
writing from my text editor now only
Now it's rotates turn to hear the anti drug speech.
>>554364002People eat up garbage all the time. Gameplay is the last thing that matters.
>>554364089Huh, what are the big white cube wireframes on the humanoid model representing? Hitbox for culling?
>>554351028>>554352771Trainwiz, stop samefagging and fix Underspace's multiplayer
>>554364440hitbox for collisions. its for this https://github.com/SeraphYuki/ragdolls-like-mehttps://x.com/SeraphYukizini/status/2013055731365232882?s=20>>554364316>>554364316the beatles did those
>>554364379This is for sure the most normie slop game in my library right now. A guilty little pleasure, but I can only handle it in small doses.
>>554364440>>554364638nothings really rendering right tho because of the library for the text editor
>>554364638>the beatles did thoseThe pot being smoked today is stronger than the LSD they took back then. Gamedev also requires 10x the mental discipline that playing rock music does.
>>5543630081. Have a demo that's fun with place-holder art (plain cubes)2. Impress artist3. Team up with artist with 50/50 rev share dealYes it's not really free but it's free up until you start making money.Lots of good free assets on fab, too.
>>554362937"IQ is fake and gay" is the first and foremost version of the meme in which midwits disagree with lowest IQs and highest IQslike how am i supposed to take these tests seriously when they're claiming im smarter than 99.9% of the population for doing some puzzles? oh wow you can complete baba is you, you should run society! stfu smoothbrainletass IQ test creator
>>554364379>Turn game into a walking quip machine>Reddit loves it now>/v/ hateposts everything it saysMarvel was onto something.
>>554364893ya thats why i dont do them im a cheerleader now
>>554364893lol people who make game are already fucking retards pot won't hurt
>I'm so smart I'm going to argue that I'm actually not smartgogem will be the most contrarian old person in his retirement home, we must pray for the nurses who will endure him.
>>554364464It's completely delusional whenever a developer thinks they can "add multiplayer" later in a game's development cycle. If the game isn't designed from the ground up around a multiplayer experience, then the multiplayer isn't going to be a good experience anyways. It's purely for marketing purposes. That's not to mention how you'll need to rip up and refactor all of the game's underlying data systems.
>>554364947You're right anon. Everyone knows genetics have no affect on the brain. Evolution stops at the neck.
>>554365252He'd be lucky to afford a tent at the homeless camp.
>>554364956Everyone was like "this is better than TV shows!"It 100% is not.
>>554365580I'm pretty sure 'stralians all have free healthcare or something. But the price they pay for that is they get sent to concentration camps for coofs.
>>554365252low IQs who put their effort into meaningful things are smarter than high IQs who put their effort into meaningless shit like being able to clap a test that any LLMGPT can also clap in 2026.
>he thinks high IQs need to exert effort to perform simple pattern matching
There's nothing more soul crushing than posting progress and getting no (You)s
>>554365731LLMs are supercomputers already orders of magnitude "smarter" than any single person. Wait you know what, I'm not going to let you do this. *blocks you*
>forgot about wallsIt's even more over than it was previously when I said it was completely over
>>554365936 Some of us pretty much never respond to progress posts, usually because we paid our dues and are past that stage and other peoples games become invisible to us. Even the coolest games are ignored occasionally. If you get ignored 5/5 progress posts though definitely consider making something else. Or post progress less often. There should really be a sticky explaining this to newdevs.
>>554366247As I previously advised you, you should stop depending on navigation for these kinds of granular movements.
>>554365936I've received (You)s on both my progress posts and shitposts. It's just too easy. Like that Boku Hello Kitty AI shitpost.
I don't post progress and I don't reply to progress, that part of my brain is permanently withered away. There are many old devs like me. Look upon me and despair.
>>554366065if LLMs are so smart why are they literally wrong about half the shit i ask them about?and why do basically all of them bitch out and say "yes sir sorry sir" when i tell them they're wrong about anything even things i know theyre not wrong about?and yes, i G-check LLMs... so far only Gemini has ever fought back on something it was right about.... Claude usually bitches out but once fought back on something it was wrong about making it the dumbest LLM by my reckoning.
>>554366747you make no progress, trannyif you prove me wrong i will stop posting here
Understanding what constitutes an interesting progress post and understanding what constitutes an interesting game both require the same skill set.
>>554366747
If a game is good, it will at least occasionally get a response, so I feel no need to toss it a bone. If it doesn't ever get replies, it's a bad game and I don't want to delude the dev, I just hope they can figure it out and not have to be told "this is trash", after all many are just new devs and don't need to hear that it's cruel. This is the law of nature that takes place in indie gamedev. It's a cruel world.
>>554367063No anon you don't understand I need to post every single tiny thing I change no matter how small
>>554367340Stop releasing your pressure. It's not healthy.
Bokube found a way to pervert the natural law of progress posting. Look at him now. The masturbatory nature of his game and how he parades it around the internet while still refusing to provide the game his kickstarters paid for is sickening.
>>554366615The game needs navigation through complicated 3D environments. "Move towards player" or other heuristics won't work, I tried and ended up back here.Besides, in the time between these posts I added persistent debug lines. Avoiding walls will take a day at most. It had to be over for us to be this back.
>>554367483>>554367340prolapse your anus
>>554367040>loaded argumentYou've made your intentions clear so why would I get into the pigpen and roll in it with you?
>>554365430Wasn't the game designed years ago with multiplayer?
>>554367765You need both, or you'll end up with very dumb and exploitable NPCs. Navigation is a fall-back. You shouldn't be querying navigation at a very high frequency.
>>554364681>A guilty little pleasure, but I can only handle it in small dosesfor me it's Undertale. I genuinely like its quirkiness.
>>554368196Apparently he has rockstar helping him out or something
Huh?
progress: I made chili
>>554368672thats diarrhea
>>554368672i slow roasted a bacon and chicken soup for 10 hours and it shits all over your slop, fuck you
>it works
>>554368862Is Arisu high IQ?
>>554368958no shes retarded
>>554368721it will be in about 24 hours >:)
>>554367768>>554368721>>554369053You have a brown soul.
>>554369127>You have a brown soul.
>>554353135Source? She's nude in this WebM right?
>>554369127Hey man, those are my fellow devs you're talking to. Knock it off.Let's try to show a little more kindness around here, okay?
>>554369053Shame, should have aborted.
>>554368862I saw it.
>>554369226yeah just google "bailey jay"
>>554369260Your "fellow devs" don't make video games.
>>554369360Damn I was really hoping she was a real girl. Now my night is ruined. Guess I'll go jack off to some JAV girl I keep seeing posted on Twitter to get my mind off of it.
>>554367039>"yes sir sorry sir" when i tell them they're wrong about anything even things i know theyre not wrong about?>gogem gaslights and abuses his LLM instanceThat's not surprising actually. What is surprising is that you would admit out loud to being an actual psychopath like that.
>>554369465bing buck angel
>>554369465degen
What's the /agdg/ equivalent of this?
>>554369534Wait nvm that's not surprising either.
>>554369586this proves bochi = trannytrannies lost btw, terf rights are human rights
>>554368046youve been posting here for God knows how long and you still dont have a game to show for it, what a deranged creature you areyou want to be around cool chud gamedevs such as myself? i get it, i get it
>>554369775you're too new to get the reference but it's ok
>>554368574>has to get rockstar because todd can't netcodeLmao
>>554367321Spoiler: the baby birds don't die from this they hit the leaves like little marshmallows.
>>554369908no one cares about your troon genealogy shit
Official thread theme:https://vocaroo.com/140xtB9rWday
>>554369883https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMAnCgjeZ4Q
>>554370113Have you considered that more people might give you positive attention if you weren't constantly spamming low effort shit?
'shua please abstain from obsessive troon posting thank you.
>>554370216>u mad bro???>is a literal tranny
Has anyone in the /v/ thread ever asked gogem to post his game? He sure is uppity and bossy in there. Maybe let them see your latest text box dragging UI "game" lol
>>554370113FVVARRKKKKKKKKK
Branno is the new and infinitely superior gogem. It's funny too they're both 'stralians.
>>554370596I always imagine googs as being like sixty years old since he's so cranky.
>>554370946
>>554370828Very accurate. His attitude towards steam is exactly like a boomer who gets caught evading taxes and is forced to give up property or something. Spends the rest of his life ranting about the government to people who don't give a shit because we actually pay our taxes.
>>554370113post lyrics
>>554371085if you were a gamedev you would hate valve for their antidev practices, thankfully youre just a tranny nodev posting ecelebs or whatever
>>554371085Whoa whoa buddy shitting on goggem is fun but I didn't consent to taking part in your libshit brained government knob slobbering.
>>554370946i look like this
why is cris actually making his life harder than it has to be? i thought he was all about workflows and now rejects the ultimate workflow>>>/g/107902069
>>554372163Because he's stupid?
Why does the retard poster do retarded things? I thought he said he wasn't retarded?
>>554372163God bless Cris I say. It will be a cold day when I can no longer come here to read some ESL shit like>How would you code a sister incest VN but having 70+ sisters to read their story?
>>554372163>Cris uses AI when its extremely unpopular>Turns against AI when it starts becoming part of every developer's workflowCan't make this up
>>554371332>don't make problems for yourself>you are now LE BOOTLICKEREverytime.So conservative and based (?)
>>554351540>under no circumstances would i ever share my game in this thread.I really want to, but I can't shake the feeling that one of the giga schizos in this thread will take some form of offense to it, and go on some kind of reviewbombing crusade.I'm not even making any weeb stuff either. I just don't trust some of the nuts that post here
>>554371085Valve are rent seeking parasites and its frankly insane that there are people with so little self respect they think its cool that a corporation takes 1/3rd of their income forever while basic features are broken on steam. TWO YEARS AGO valve said there was a bug that caused games with lower numbers of reviews to be throttled by the algorithm, because it treats a lower review count like a low review score, and they still haven't fixed it.
>>554372887They don't reviewbomb, they just spam copypasta shit each thread. Look at the top post. If you can handle tards like that, you'll be fine.
>>554373059they review bombed joshua
>>554373161
>>554373206yeshua was review bombed by reality
>>554372163He has a persona to upkeep, and he is seeking engagement for engagements sake. Sometimes he slips up and says something correct, but will not follow his own advice.
>>554373021>treats a lower review count like a low review scoreThat's a good thing though? What is the problem?
If Cris had some kind of manager or coach or handler or whatever the fuck he'd be one of the most talented and successful in this thread.
>>554372887I don't need to post my game alongside gore just to be seen as a "real" agdg dev or something. It's a joke. The gore tard doesn't do this routine in /v/ because he considers that the "real" gamedev thread and that's because unfortunately now it kind of is that.TLDR: Post progress in /v/. If anyone disagrees with this, they should sign up as a janitor for vg and babysit this thread 24/7 because there's no other way to turn this ship around.
>>554373518Several of us have tried to be his coach and unlock his potential. None of us have succeeded.
/v/ dev thread is full of progress
>>554362064why the fuck are you talking it hasn't even come out yet. You made me check steam for nothing.It's going to get 6000 reviews, it doesn't matter if it isn't fun.All they have to do is polish the first 2 hours, add lots of quippy marvel dialogue, and then just reskin zelda for the rest of the game. And then IGN gives it a 9/10.
>>554373518Cris was talented if you look at his drawings from like 11 years ago but he keeps regressing. Lead exposure is unfortunately a serious problem in his part of the world which may explain this.
>>554373021>they think its cool that a corporation takes 1/3rd of their income foreverWhy do you seethers always do this. You reduce everything to a caricature of some bootlicker cuck. You can't see the sense in people just doing their best and operating in flawed systems and NOT crashing out about it. You're histrionic weirdos who should be out protesting da gubment, not worrying about what happens in gamedev. Any gamedev can put their game on EPIC and GOG and not have any of these problems. But you don't care. You want to shriek and cry about valve everyday because it makes you feel good for some sick reason that I'll never understand. Probably childhood related.
>>554372516Typical 4chan contrarianism desu
i had a dream where pewdiepie was playing bokube
>>554374206he wants to be the driver of his own success. any advice he takes diminishes that, so he must not take advice, he must come up with the most convoluted path in order to outsmart the genuine advice givers.
>>554374591a prophetic dream perhaps!
>>554374591That was your soul engaging in an alternate timeline where Boku actually had the sense to release the game at the height of its popularity.
>>554374310probably cause trainwiz still hangs out in those
>>554374464>Lead exposure is unfortunately a serious problem in his part of the world which may explain this.Very reasonable.>>554374601You're absolutely right. I should have never told him the next step was to add a walking animation to his current game because now he's been posting the same static figure hopping up and down (not even a jump animation) and trying to find ways to imply it's progress. Cris is the definition of a lost cause.
>>554374787Before he became fully addicted to feedback in agdg. That's all it took for him was to get a few (You)s in here and he's been uninterested in actually succeeding ever since. Freddy was truly not cut out for this life.
>it doesn't work
>>554374310Thanks, now you've ruined that thread
>>554375282my niece looks like this
>>554375282>>554375450
fygoon was right
fygoon, exterminate they/them
Which pathfinding option should I go with for an ARPG with procedural maps? I have tons (~hundreds) of enemies, most of them targeting the player, some potentially targeting player minions. Unitybtw>Try to figure out how to bake a navmesh at runtime and use that for everything>Good old lazy A*>Flow field towards each potential target, keep each one updated every time a unit movesRight now I have a prebaked map with a navmesh and it works okay, but I don't know how much of a pain it's going to be to bake that at runtime.
Had a dream this morning where I broke into Eric's office and looked through all his shit...
>>554374206>help cris>listens at first>next day>that anon was retarded and my way is better (it really wasnt)>BTFO'D>never help cris againsomeday you will realize that sometimes its better not to help out some people..
>>554376932
Prompt engineering is like trying to teach actual retards how to do the most simple tasks. It's a good thing my time spent here at /agdg/ has long since prepared me for this herculean endeavor.
>>554376841Can anyone explain why cris's horrific shitposting is endearing while Er*c schizo is creepy and weird?Understanding why would really help writing certain characters.
I need an artslut (XX chromosomes)
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:seraphyuki/zimeditsudo apt updatetype these commands
>>554377865fuck off AI is MINE
>>554374313>It's going to get 6000 reviewMost definitely not. Yacht Club has enough goodwill for it to sell a bunch, but it isn't going to come close to Shovel Knight's performance. Play the demo if you haven't.
>>554351028Why does a guy from the UK have to do with a dev from the US?
>>554362205KEKAROO
>>554377996You making a sissy game or something?
>>554378186but i dont want to use zim, you shouldve made something useful like an opensource spine2d alternative
>I'm leaving you, aggy. >*clack clack clack* >*door shuts*Our sp... our sp-sponse? *sniffles*
>>554378972But my wife is black
>>554377883>Can anyone explain why cris's horrific shitposting is endearingDon't you guys all tell that person to kill themselves whenever they post?>creepy and weirdOnly women or low t men use those weirds.
>>554378972i blame the demiurge
The blueprints for Eric's office space used to be viewable on loopnet, but now it's gone and I didn't save it.I wanted to use the layout for one of the office buildings in my game.*sigh*
>>5543794597/10 ragebait, you could improve the formula
>>554379125>Only women or low t men use those weirds.LOW T ALERT LOW T ALERT WEEOO WEEOO
>>554378972oh yeah?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZPTHcbPuCs
At what point should I give up? I'm not indian enough for this.
>>554350686oh no AI sissies, we were too cocky...!
>>554379696wuh oh
>>554379829do we tell this unemployed nigga that companies like that can stay "unprofitable" for decades? but still have extremely strong valuation
>>554379651It's not really ragebait.Fun Fact: Before Eric leased the office space, it was used as a Japanese restaurant.
>>554379960Open AI is going to lose the lawsuit against Elon. The shit that came out in discovery is beyond damning. Altman sees the writing on the walls and he just started a neuralink competitor. Its ogre.
>>554379772Hey everyone so listen up. I am a werewolf, my main role is to be hidden among the villagers. Let me know if you want to find out more about my story!
>>554377883cris is like a doofus sitcom character, the runt of the pack clumsily trying to make games with the big boys. er*c schizo is possibly multiple people and doesn't make games.
>>554379829claude is miles better than chatgpt for coding (and even chatting)
when did you realize publishing your game on steam is no longer viable? Steam has been a fat smelly piece of exrement on the soul of the world for far too long! We MUST defeat them. Browser games and downloadable .exe files only from now on!
>>554379829lol they are about to lose 300 billion to musk as well
>>554380037No wonder his webcams and photos and stuff are so kino. https://youtu.be/WHVME3mUc-k&t=406
>>554380118>>554380513No chance they lose to Elon lol
>>554380565ok retard, ill call the judge and let him know anon said it's over
>>554379829OpenAI is def going under soon but sadly that won't stop AI altogether.
>>554380486>when did you realize publishing your game on steam is no longer viable?When I had less than $100 in my bank account. But then I got money and now my game is on steam.
>>554379829>>554380118>>554380652massive fucking cope
>>55438079060 IQ
>>554380248
>>554380790>In 2024 Altman said "I kind of think of ads as like a last resort for us as a business model">In 2026 they added ads to chatgptlol
>>554380486I realized it after I found out that fatfuck gabencunt breaks to my players' homes and threatens them at gunpoint to stop playing my game after just 16 minutes.
>>554380769sorry for your loss (of time and money)
>>554379829ChatGPT really doesn't even seem that good compared to the competition now.
>>554379960They can, but not to this extent. 16 billion is an enormous amount for a business is not subsidized by a more profitable one like Google. The more OpenAI expands the more money they lose. That's a fast track to death.
>>554381182>picThe uploading process is definitely an IQ filter. They know what they're doing not making it just a drag and drop uploader. It's funny to think about how many aspiring shovelware devs probably walked away because they saw the CLI method in the instruction video.I'm assuming... YOU... are not one who was filtered of course?
>>554378853I'll write something good and useful
Look at these couple retards squawking back and forth about their chat bot drama when there are literally 3 or 4 other boards where this would actually be relevant. Anything to just hang around gamedevs making noise about their chatbots. Such odd behavior.
>>554380556Can anyone identify the new mouse he's using?The side buttons almost look like that of a G703.I know he used to use a Logitech M500, I even emailed him a while ago asking what mouse he uses now, but he ignores my emails of course...
>>554381494I was not filtered, I was simply too high IQ for Steam. Steam is for midwit devs, but the extreme ends know it sucks.
You're wasting your time if you aren't using Claude Code to make your game. Actually, it's your only chance of success. You have to make your game with it before the masses realize what's happening. Once everyone catches on, it's over. 90% of jobs will be gone within 5-10 years. You won't have anything to offer to make a living anymore. Your only hope is if you make a game with AI before the race to the bottom has happened. Get your game finished and make some money now while you still can, because very soon, no one will need your game when they can make any game they want by entering a prompt and waiting a little bit for it to be completed. Don't miss out on your final opportunity in life. This applies to all fields.
>>554381776
>>554381872>copy pasted from 2 years ago>swapped out CHATGPT with Claude CodeYou AI wraiths are vermin.VERMIN. You hear me?
>>554382210you're mentally handicapped
>>554381662It could have a huge impact on gamedev arguably its more relevant here than anywhere else
>>554382290It could have a huge impact in the same way that you could make a game (neither will ever happen).
>>554381872programming was never the barrier for entry to gamedev
>>554382290>It could have a huge impact on gamedev arguably itsCould.Didn't.Won't.
Who else wants to get GIF SASSED.Step right up.
>>554373518I recall someone stating that if he got rich, he would lift Cris out of the jungle and set him up in an office to make a full game, or something like that. Would be interesting to see how he would in an environment like that. I wonder how well he would do if he also got a small team based on the type of game chosen.
>post something about AI failing>AI sissies give you free (you)sit's that simple
>>554382447The retards who got filtered by programming are all too stupid to understand that.
psst
>>554382290It won't, not for a long time."AI" is no where near the level where it can be considered good or useful.
>>554382920It's alarming watching them crawl out of the brush like that but at the same time it was always obvious there's more Ai cucks here than just 'dro and 'shua. Once people start throwing their money away on tokes for this fad technology it's over for them. They care more about it than anything else including gamedev, because they likely spent comparatively nothing on actually making a game. Including time.
>>554382447>programming was never the barrieryes it wasnot so much nowadays but try to do anything like captain keen or super mario using only early 90's tech. Now you have Unity, SDL2 or Gamemaker that give you walking sprite with gravity out of the box. It's not a barrier NOW but it definitely WAS a barrier
>>554383161>AI is literally bad right nowFinally someone said it. I've done my research including on agentic systems and in order to use it effectively to displace basic clerical work, (which is absolutely possible) you have a be an engineering expert with a 135 IQ minimum. So it's entirely possible for many of us to do it, but for what? To pitch automated systems so book managing companies can fire a few secretaries?Shit is obscene. NO thank you. And it has nothing to do with us gamedevs now or for the foreseeable future.The AI wraiths who frequent this community are delusional VERMIN.
>>554367321most dev's cry foul when they get told the truth about their game. only branno seems to want to be told the truth. i for example have told pogo that it might be a good idea to drop the lethal company clone, though he's kept at it. idk how he is going to compete. when the amount of lethal company clones is slowly but surely rising all with great graphics, i just don't see him being able to compete. it's like vampire survivor clones, early on a lot of the clones could do well without doing anything special and being able to get away with poor graphics, graphics so poor that even i had a chance, i wish i made a vs clone. but now? lol good luck making a vs clone and getting anything more than 50 reviews at 4.99. really makes me seethe seeing, iirc, 2 games with artstyles like mine and obvious bad design choices getting 500+ reviews. it's not a lot of money but say i got 20k copies sold at 4.99? about a year and halfs salary. but even bigger. proof that i can succeed at gamedev. an unquantifiable change in the psyche that would make me work harder versus someone that just releases a game and sees it flop.
>>554380469I'd expect the cost to skyrocket after openAI fails and investors start pulling out.
>when the the vermin become stirred up and start skittering brazenly out in the openIt's bad. It's real bad.
>>554383509>most dev's cry foul when they get told the truth about their game. only branno seems to want to be told the truth.Most devs have to digest feedback, the more experienced ones know not to immediately respond and certainly not to argue. Well usually. For some they can't be civilized.
I keep seeing artists praying for the AI bubble to pop but what's funny is they seem to not realize you can run stable diffusion models on dirt cheap ewaste tier hardware so the AI bubble popping won't have any effect AI art.
>>554384073Your AI slopped "art" is shit and you've made zero games with it. Vermin.No offense.
>>554384073it would slow the flood. so, pretty big effect. 90% of AI users will not try to run offline AI models.
You guys are in serious denial like most bag holders. The bubble already popped. You had 2-3 years to make a game with AI and you haven't done it. Now the ladder is going to be pulled up so the companies that only ever wanted AI so they can lay off workers with real jobs can continue using it, but you're going to have to find a new pipedream for how you can make a game without actually being a gamedev.It's over. Sorry.
>ai can do coding? cool now I can get more work done!>ai can do art? whaa this isn't real art whaa gatekeep gate wha whaahmm
>>554373596i post bocchi there never my game, strangely he doesn't follow me there kek. still sus he's pretending to be mentally ill and actually from /v/ and trying to push all the devs there. my biggest complaint of the v dev threads is that a lot of the posts with pics of games sound like an ad. i can't put my game up when it sounds like each one is pitch, feels like it'd influence the perception of my game.
The zoomer who worships Carmack has got to be one of the dumbest motherfuckers here.
>>554378972boobs are simply too small. my wife would have big honkers and her hair would be down and long and hazel/brown eyed.>>554383330nta but art is the barrier now. programming was the barrier in the 2000s. back then you could get away with low quality art. however programming by the mid 2000s was still accessible enough that i could of brute forced my way into understanding how to make a game. i'd have better odds back then, than i do now. oh and the games could also be small.
If Order of the Sinking Star flops, what are the odds JAI ends up being subscription/one time payment based?>>554384295Nta but I could see that, just look at all the people who wanted to play Dwarf Fortress but didn't until it was on Steam. As if simply going to the website was some huge impossible feat lel.
>>554382447>>554382929>>554383330The frontier models can do it all now, not just programming. Heed my advice or get left in the dust and suffer.
>>554385892show rigged 3d model with topology or kys don't give me the mysterious riddler crap
>>554385892>miss my point entirelyyep, AI retard on the loose!
>EGS front page is filled with chinese FMV porn gamesweird
If you gave me feedback on my demo on demo day, and I replied:"Thank you for the feedback. I think you're wrong, here's why: ..."would you be mad? If it were a regular player giving feedback I probably just wouldn't say anything, but as a fellow dev we might both benefit from an ensuing discussion / debate, not that you're obligated to further elucidate your feedback.
>>554386109China knows what sells and doesn't have white liberal guilt to hold them back.
>>554386109Porn being allowed on game storefronts was horrible for porn and for gaming. Why can't it at least be regulated to its own tab? Why mix porn and games together like that? When you went to a video store you didn't see porn next to The Matrix, porn was kept in the back with the rest of the porn.
>>554385892>you'll be left behiiiiiiiiiiiind>2 years later>has no game while everyone else does Doomsayers get dunked on everytime. You deserve it.
Are VNs allowed here?
>>554386109The Steam front page is also filled with those if you set your language to Chinese.
>>554386297>When you went to a video store you didn't see porn next to The Matrix, porn was kept in the back with the rest of the porn.unc moment fr
>>554386336Only if you actually write game dialogue and not just stupid ideas about eventually getting to writing the game dialogue.
I don't have porn games enabled on Steam. I have no idea what porn games are out there lol
>>554386709Don't you feel the need to scope out the competition?
>>554386203I often give pretty pessimistic feedback, like >I didn't enjoy the writing>Add this and that to the level>It's not fun, maybe add this so it's appealing to mebut then again I also try to give the reasons why, like>I'm bitter like that>It's not my genre>I don't understand the appeal so yes, but not really. I also try to explain my reasoning what I'm trying to achieve in my game and when someone says it's too hard/too easy, this should be removed/that should be added I can reaffirm them in my vision.
>>554386709steam's not really very good for finding porn anyway, much better to browse f95zone
>>554386336only if the art is good
>>554386336as long as it's not some god-forsaken kinetic novel
>>554386203very rarely feel negatively about that, am happy to hear the devs thought process, though depends on how good the justification is for the issue and how glaring the issue was. I was told I was wrong when I suggested instantly killing the player with only a 1-2 second warning, returning them to the start of the game, after they slogged through 10 minutes of hunting down enemies was bad. there was some discussion(other anons joined in), but to me the dev didn't have a good justification(old games were hard!).
Some devs simply can't be fixed.
>>554386336only if you draw detailed backgrounds
>>554384979agreed. he always loves to drop his name like it's fucking relevant, he's such a dumb shit
Is there an easy way in Unity URP to make it so that these healthbars are rendered "over" everything else? They're mesh quads floating over the units, but my outline shader, foliage, etc. get drawn over them. I'd like them to block everything, but I'm not sure what feature I need to learn about for that.
>>554383425>>554383161i haven't dived into ai in the gamedev scene and what it can do for devs, i've only been hearing within say the last year or so that it's doing crazy things and people are piping out games like nothing. but now i'm hearing the opposite. what the fuck am i missing about all of this ai bullshit? is it letting nodevs squeeze out games with no effort or not? if not, why the fuck am i only hearing about all the shit that ai can do then for devs?
>>554387608Look for "Sorting Priority"
>>554387608Change the Render Queue in the material settings.
>Still no fractran devs on /aggy/https://youtu.be/GIPtnEIQCBM?si=BCtPK-kP9gqHzbQz
>>554387882The entire US economy is being held together by NVIDIA's ability to sell more chips. A lot of very rich people will lose a lot of money the moment retards like you start figuring out that they're peddling snake oil. If it's letting nodevs squeeze out games, where's yours?
>>554388231esl retard leave
>>554387882internet communists don't know what they are talking about its really nothing new
>>554387196I can fix them
>>554387882For the most part people are seeing waves of games hit steam that have AI generated capsule art and stuff so they just assume the entire game is AI slop but there's no way to tell how much of the gameplay is vibecoded, realistically most of the games that a dev would say was made with AI is actually cobbled together from existing projects that were sold in an asset store or something years before AI actually became mainstream. If there are any devs who have workflows to push out games with AI they are hiding it literally everywhere. They're not on twitter, they're not on reddit, they're not on 4chan, and people could say it's because "they have to hide or they will get lynched for using AI" but I think the most likely answer is they actually don't exist.What you can do is find people who are figuring out pieces of the workflow for individual things like asset creation, and that's actually really interesting. But they're not making games happen from it. It's kind of frustrating as an observer, and when it comes to the ai cultists it's downright disturbing how delusional they sound after all these years.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRp1E7An-EMThis video from 1 year ago is still the best workflow video I have seen because it goes from AI concept art to AI 3d model to implementation in the engine. But I'm not even bothering to dig anymore, because all other videos seem to be the same thing or less. And nobody is putting out actual games.
I can get a novel done in 2 months but why cant i get a game done in 2 months?
>>55438884899% of the people using this sort of workflow are idea guys with zero engine knowledge flocking to AI to make their dream game, an open world 160 hour RPG with a generic fantasy setting. good luck to them lol.
>>554389026About 7500 new books release on Amazon alone EACH DAY, while only 100 new games release on Steam alone EACH DAY. From those numbers, we can estimate that writing a book is approximately 75 times easier than making a game.
>>554388848perfect. thank you for this, anon. this helps explain and clear it up for me very well. i've been out of the loop ever since it emerged onto the scene. i started devving my main game in 2020 and took my first break last february to get some other things ironed out in my life before a final push and this ai discussion everywhere has been irritating me so i needed to know where exactly it actually sat in this sphere since i've never cared to actually pay attention to it since i don't use it of course
>>554389026You can. write the entire game idea and implementation on a single post-it note. make that.
>>554388848naive to say the least
>>554389235no game to say the least
>>554388848ContinuedSo what you actually need is an experienced gamedev who understands the essentials to a proper game, the title screen, main menu, cutscenes, gameplay mechanics, character controls, AI navigation, combat systems or whatever thing is relevant to the genre, inventory systems if needed. All of these.Then such a gamedev can learn asset creation workflows with AI and maybe prompt some code from Claude or something and will actually understand the code that has been generated like Thomas Brush does herePrompting at 1:18:11 >https://www.youtube.com/live/CizlzbsYyAg&t=4691and then he does some work in the editor while that code is generated by AI then he reviews the code making sure to actually understand and digest what it's doing (this is where most vibecoders struggle) Reviewing Claudes generated code here at 1:21:15>https://www.youtube.com/live/CizlzbsYyAg&t=4873
Yup. I give up.
>>554388116I set it to RenderQueue.Overlay + 1 in C# and it makes it render over the glow, at least, though terrain objects still block it. From what I gather I need to make it a shader and turn ztest off for that.>>554387884Doesn't seem to do anything.
>>554389523live stream embeds don't work with timestamps I thinkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CizlzbsYyAg>Prompting at 1:18:11>Reviewing Claudes generated code at 1:21:15
>>554389542she cute
>>554389523that makes total sense, thank you for this continuation. so it's still a tool that needs to be used by the proper person. it's not at extreme levels like some youtube videos make it out to be
>>554388848>>554389523>>554389645And to summarize: all of this is no different than just grabbing some asset packs, knowing how to work with them, and asking an AI empowered search engine the right questions, as often it provides workable code in the answer. The AI generated assets are just more impressive because you can keep generating the concept to 3D model until you get what you want (as shown in that video) and Claude can interact directly with your Scripts as opposed to you needing to copy paste methods into functions. I understand this much but still do all of my gamedev without AI except for search engine results.
>>554389116True and they're really harmless hobbyists who aren't going online and trying to indoctrinate anyone to use AI. They are the good apples. Especially because they share their workflow and don't just tell people "buy AI buy now".
buy?
>>554390073bullshit. anyone who uses ai in gamedev is scum
Spike really went and did it the absolute madman. He made a robot Buffy sex doll
>>554389550Okay, apparently the easy way out here is to make them transparent materials (with an alpha of 1) and set depth test to always. Good enough for now.
>>554389835Right it's a collection of tools for various parts of the workflows and it hasn't really been unified anywhere for an end to end concept to publishing gamedev experience. To tie it all together into a presentable game still requires a gamedev who has at the very least done some of the tutorials in their chosen engine to know what is going on. When anyone dives right into game engines with vibe coding and they don't understand basics like making a character controller or optimizing rendering settings for performance it spirals out of control and they get overwhelmed. In the future AI will be able to benchmark test builds and change rendering settings according and will actually ask the developer what they want for each section of the game, like menus, custcenes, etc. Because imagining and engineering these things still requires a very particular kind of person. Gamedevs are basically geniuses. It will be somewhat difficult to extinct us with AI.
>>554390205should I make a horror game
>>554390490>Because imagining and engineering these things still requires a very particular kind of person.Imagineers. (thanks Walt)
>>554390580You should make a pong game.
>>554390205ending gave it away
>>554390490very interesting.>It will be somewhat difficult to extinct us with AI.i really hope that's the case for us, anon. if we still maintain that overseer position at the very minimum then yeah even far into the future your claim will hold true. my concern personally is just how much ai closes that gap over time. either way you gave me the green light to calmly get back to it, so thank you for that
Let's turn down the millennial therapy speak.
>>554390975what's the equivalent for you zoomers? spouting sperg nonsense to one another continuously because you don't know how to remain calm and talk normally due to being autistic incels?
>>554388848>What you can do is find people who are figuring out pieces of the workflow for individual things like asset creation, and that's actually really interesting. But they're not making games happen from it. There are exceptions to this of course like Night Swarm, where multiple AI enabled workflows were likely used>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFZqGuz01DEand it's suspected the developers used AI for way more than just the voice acting but they only declare voice acting on the store page. AI appears to have been used for the 3d assets, gameplay mechanics, the artwork, the music, basically the entire game short of just the game design (and AI probably influenced a lot of that during brainstorming). Developers like this are not sharing their AI workflows for obvious reasons and they aren't crediting the entire game to AI even if it was used in almost the entire thing. This isn't really their fault as they have to do damage control and were already hit by review bombing, but they have Asmongold (who owns their publishing company and is an AI advocate) playing the game and that was enough to overcome that.
>>554391126>can't animate? no problemgamedevs are geniuses.
I hecking hate 3D animation.
>>554391470Take the cascadeur pill. Also, filming references of yourself is always the key to making it good and fun.
>>554391665no one uses this software
>>554389645>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CizlzbsYyAg1:22:04 here after Claude updates the jumping function is a perfect example of something quirky happening within the engine that a vibecoder might not be able to fix with a prompt. You have to know how the animator works in Unity like Thomas does who troubleshoots it almost instantly. AI will eventually be integrated well enough within game engines that it will be conscious of every setting for every component of the engine and would be able to fix this but for now a "real gamedev" is still miles ahead of the competition in cases like this.
>>554391785retard
>>554391968That's not very nice
>>554391968it gives no tangible benefit over animbot with multiple downsides its not practical in a real world scenario
>>554391915>AI will eventually be integrated well enough within game engines that it will be conscious of every setting for every component of the engine and would be able to fix this but for now a "real gamedev" is still miles ahead of the competition in cases like this.how many years do you give it until integration
>>554391915Oh my god man nobody gives a fuck stop talking to yourself>>554391785There aren't as many tutorials for it as there are for blender or whatever because it's new and not free but people very much do use it, especially for mocap stuff.
>>554392273fuck up zoomer
>>554391126You are a clueless nodev, and you're talking out your ass. Who cares if some stupid art assets are generated? They're not doing anything with AI that they couldn't previously do with an asset store. Stop rotting your brain with roach king content and make a game (you won't).
>>554392243Two more week.
>>554392243I have no idea. If Unreal Engine for example starts exposing the memory of the engine instance to an AI agent it could have omnipotent control of the engine. Or maybe they pass it all of the engine .ini settings and stuff, and update it everytime the user changes those settings, basically it needs to monitor the state of the engine editor inside and out. That could take years to implement or they might already have something like that in a future update and are preparing to announce it at the right time to increase their market value. There's no way for an outsider to know.
>get sick of trello's bullshit>download notion>Your AI workplaceWhat do you use for task management+/notes?
>>554392472>They're not doing anything with AI that they couldn't previously do with an asset store.They could have generated assets according to a design scheme and it makes everything cohesive. You can't find that much content across any number of asset packs that would all fit your games design, this is why most asset flippers know how to modify assets to fit their game. With AI you still have to do that some of the time, but most of the generated assets are closer to the specifications you want. Asset stores are not like this. You're mad btwI'm yesdev but I don't use AI. I think you're having a meltie in the face of a high IQ. Very common.
>>554392785OR they had never thought of this and just read this post with one of their bots and will be making 300 billion dollars from my idea now. I'm going to pocketwatch them and if it happens I will ask for compensation.
>>554393090I keep an unsaved notepad file open with the list of things I want to get done that day and delete them as I do them
>>554391126the hopping game piece aesthetic for this is so fucking weird
>>554393101>I don't use AILike I said, you have no clue what it's actually like to generate assets. It's about as consistent as prompting Brazilians off Fiverr, and they cost about the same. You're obviously too poor to have tried doing either. All they did was slap the same Hades shader from there previous game onto everything.
I'm such a disgrace
>>554393602>you have no clue what it's actually like to generate assets. It's about as consistent as prompting Brazilians off FiverrIs this not accurate? https://youtu.be/DRp1E7An-EM&t=147Do I need to go to these apps and make the exact same clicks then come back and report to you? The iterations have their quirks but ultimately he works around it and gets something very close to his concept art. That's generating an asset to specs, something that would allow it to fit a games design direction.You're mad.
>>554360671Which one?Don't tell me it's the peritroonia dev.
Bro is about to have a meltie that someone who doesnt even use AI understands it better than him lol
>>554393628I feel sad today, bocchi
>>554393628>your riding your motorcycle at night this on the speakers https://open.spotify.com/track/4oKHf02s6epqOKmxJwEgd4?si=40284e242ab54936>your a genius and capable of writing things
>>554394007>You're mad.he is. i don't know why a couple anons keep getting pissed about your posts
>>554394271>slopifynot clicking that shit
>>554394273They want to believe they're in a special club because they threw $200 away on a claude subscription which they can't actually figure out how to make use of lolI would be mad too if I were them honestly. Calling everyone poor for not wasting money is about the only cope they have left.
>>554374517>no arguments, only ad hominemsLmao
>>554394391>b-bootlicker>noooo you can't adhom me bootlicker stop noooooCucked.
>>554394335$200 is just insane. talk about burning money
>the entire thread is the e-celeb youtube addicted faggot talking to himselfGrim.
>>554163712Here is desert_4 (level 4) of the Bokube demo's art make over using AIchads unreal mockup AI generation as a reference but with my shitty jewunity hand crafted skills.
>>554394772>CriesGWIM
>>554394772>Grimi saw you posting in /v/ earlier dipshit. right in the middle of the day. are you unemployed perchance
>>554394787Do you wish you would have used unreal instead of jewnity and will you switch for your next project?
>>554394875>>554394902Please continue talking to yourself and samefagging posts, weirdo.
>>554395058Cope.
>>554394976no and no
>>554385524>If Order of the Sinking Star flops, what are the odds JAI ends up being subscription/one time payment based?0
>be me>trying to get something working as intended>some unity system that breaks way too easily>using default one works>get the idea to edit that instead of my custom system>instincts as usual are telling me to make a backup first>decide against it for whatever reason>save>message pops up>changes to immutable packages.....>undo the change>too lateI now have to redo a whole days work cause I am not keeping this. Fuck me, fuck me, fuck me!!!! I hate being right when it comes to this stuff. A simple little backup would've saved me from this. All because Unity can't put such a warning prior to editing their shitty system reeeeeee!!!
>>554395312that's why i use frameworks. i don't have to deal with stupid shit like that
>shows up to thread and gets instantly tilted at people who are smarter than him>attempts and fails to gatekeep AI discussion>grim ecewebs gwim gwim Familiar preamble to another gore melty.
>keeps seething after being called out ONE (1) timeThin-skinned loser lmao
>"called out">I'm calling you out ecewebs>gwim >gwiiiiiimYep. Very familiar.
>>554395420you're just the commentator in all of this though, retard. you do your drive by commentating posts and aren't involved in the debacles ever. how about you and i debate about something such as why your game is shit? you won't though because again you're just a commentator, you don't participate
>>554394007>Is this not accurate?No reply btw
>cry about someone >I CALLED THEM OUT What a weirdo lol
@554395709stupid nonce
>>554395490>>554395543>>554395709>>554395626Mindbroken
>>554394007>Do I need to go to these apps and make the exact same clicks then come back and report to you? Yes, you should actually. Then, you'll understand that 95%+ of generations are garbage and that there's a reason the video you keep linking has so many cuts. Any actual yesdev can take one glance at the Night Swarm trailer and conclude that they generated models, but the topology was completely unriggable and unanimatable, and so they just didn't, even though in their previous game, they've demonstrated a capacity to animate humanoid characters. It's not fundamentally changing how anyone is making games. There are no "secret" workflows.>>554394273I'm tilted because I wasted my day trying to learn prompt engineering. This is me >>554379772>>554395626I have other shit to do, unlike you. Btw just to let you know, none of the other posts are me, and I'm going to sleep right now, because I just know you're going to cry about samefags for the next few hours.
Where is (you)r progress?
>>554395781>>554395821>still using VPN/multi device to simultaneously postSad.
>>554395883>projection
>>554395821>I'm tilted because I wasted my day trying to learn prompt engineering.The correct thing to do when you're aware of being tilted is to step away not start laying into people. What a goon.
>>554377883>>554376841>it wasn't a "dream"
>>554395821>95%+ of generations are garbage and that there's a reason the video you keep linking has so many cuts.Did you think anyone was under the impression they got the perfect model first try?Or did the video clearly explain that he had to do multiple generations and even show that?>Any actual yesdev can take one glance at the Night Swarm trailer and conclude that they generated models, but the topology was completely unriggable and unanimatable, and so they just didn'tIs that not literally what myself and anons already said?Go to bed angry little girl, you didn't earn a good sleep.
>>554396160>>554395997>samefagging
>>554395997but that's what anonymous forums are for. for laying into people. back when i was making my biggest dev progress i was going hard for an hour or however long the task took and then i'd jump to my other monitor in this general and just call someone a dumb fucking retard for a couple of posts and then go back to another task. that's how you let off steam is by laying into randoms online
i'm retarded and a nocode but i will make a game through sheer brute retard force and the power of chatgpt
>>554396250>I want to be angry and have high blood pressure and perform worse at my job Fair enough. Irritability is a sign of low testosterone btw
>>554396401show your discord servers
>>554396401Why don't you learn to code? It just takes practice.
>>554396401>fug root beerlol
How are you guys staying motivated with all of the IA bullshit now? I see no point in devving if I know any retard will be able to prompt the exact same thing in 1-2 years and there's gonna be no way for me to get rich with it anymore
>>554396401
>>554396135>soul has no splendor left. my giga form got shut down. if the disco eye thing from billy and mandy scene wasnt good enough business idk what form workswow that's more than 5 words are we writing books now rotate? Very good.Illustrated as well? My goodness.
>>554396563that's exactly why i haven't returned from my break. what's the point when aitards will be able to shit out games of the same quality in a fraction of the time? it's a completely crestfallen feeling. ai completely ruined the comfyness that gamedev had. hard work got rewarded. now less work is getting rewarded
>>554396563Read the posts above >>554388848
>>554396706>finding reasons to give up then pretending to be sad about itGiving up is the easy route, it's what you want to do and you're coping. Before AI was a thing nodevs did the exact same doomer routine you're doing right now. It's always been the worst thing to read in these threads. It's like having a zombie try to bite you and infect you with loserness.
>>554396438>>554396529I'm like half way trying to learn to code, kind of. But I just started so it's very difficult. please forgive me. I am avoiding having chatgpt just do everything for me blindly and I basically try to do shit that I see in videos, fail, and then yell at gpt or claude to explain why my shit doesnt work. my goal is to eventually be able to do 90% of it on my own.
>>554395824she goes to another school
>>554394976Yes but its too late for me I already learned and gained so much experience with unity I cant switch my next project is online multiplayer and already heavy in unity systems sadly.
Top of the morning to you all steamies! Any one of you ready to buy me a steak?
>>554396965The "too many games" crab post was a serious doomer routine long before it was a meme (I still don't think it's a meme it's not funny and nobody makes that post except the cuck who came up with it). The person who made that meme made no games and just became a permanent meme spamming nodev who thinks they are part of agdg "culture" or history now. Crabs are gay af
>>554397090>morningit's night time, retard
>>554397145Americunt...
>>554397189*americhad, eurotrash
>>554397030Uh oh this doesn't sound like the happy fun times bokudev we saw last night.
>>554397235Your god gabencunt fled from Ameristania to flee taxes albeithoughever...
>>554396563>I see no point in devving if I know any retard will be able to prompt the exact same thingMost AI fags can't make anything more than pictures.
>>554396563The AI gravy train is about to end. OpenAI is mathematically unable to make enough money to pay their investors back and real soon they're going to lose their lawsuit to Elon Musk. Once that happens the bubble is going to pop and investors will pull away from AI for a time. Cheap cloud AI services are going away. They'll still be around for enterprise costumers but shit like google giving $300 worth of free Gemini tokens and Claude only being $20 a month is going to end.
>>554397340I don't give a shit about the AIs.Will the component part prices drop?
>>554397340>Claude only being $20 a month is going to end.It's $200 upfront. It's ironic how in the end, AI nodevs became the biggest shills of them all.
>>554397535OpenAI is the sole reason they are so high right now because they're buying up all the ram, even though they can't even use it, so probably soon.
>>554397556For a discount of $17/monthStill though, if anyone were promoting a product like this anywhere else it would be called shilling. Not AI "chads" though. They advertise a product here all day long and they do it for free.
>>554394642That's the default pricing but you can choose $20/monthly >>554397556This is what AI xisters brag about being able to afford btw
>>554397340too big to failenjoy the hyperinflation
And done. Just copied and pasted my code. And setting up stuff in the scene? I just took pics and copied what I did. Apparently a lot of effort was put in trying to set the system up to work right which meant a lot of effort wasn't really stuff kept in the end. Freedom, I'm done for the day, sleeping later than I'd have preferred. Me btw >>554395312
Does anyone have experience with buying ads for their game? How much of an effect does it actually have?
>>554397556>200 up frontThey really need the money
2/3 of the way in january 2026My locked in status: still locked in
I'm still working on that one scene. After today I'll have been 30 hours at it and I hope I'll be mostly done and have good foundations for very similar scenes of the same type.I don't like doing art but it's better than what I'll be doing in the following days: preparing my tax returns, filling out the annual KYC questionnaire sent by my bank and updating my first game so they work well on the Steam Deck. I don't have a Steam Deck but players told me exactly what's wrong with the controls on it.I was deservedly criticized for eating like a slob so my dessert for this morning is this fruit platter. I cut it all nice so I could eat it like a civilized gentleman over a few hours while I work, but I ate it all in 2 minutes and now I'm sorry I didn't get donuts that were still on sale.
>>554398921That looks incredibly realistic, especially the details on orange slices. Really good work.
>>554398921>no donies Must be some kind of mistake.
>>554397340>>554397556I'm sorry, it's partly my fault. I use Gemini and and Copilot and ChatGPT for coding tasks that are too hard or too boring and I never paid them a cent.
maybe I should play some horror games for inspo
Would you race me
I still don't understand why devs cried so haed about Silksong being $20. That game is a 2D sloppa so it was priced accordingly. Paying more than $20 for a 2D game in 2026 is just retarded.Now what IS a big problem is Fallen Aces sellering for $25 (pic related). Is a full 3D game, with professional art and voice acting, and AFAIK it even has some immersive sym elements. THIS game is most certainly bringing down the value of games by undervaluing itself and is a threat to gamedevs. Yet hardly anyone talks about that.
>>554399153crazy. coding is the funnest part of gamedev because efficiency is entirely in your hands. i hate coding in 2026 because everyone like you (no offense here) is using ai for coding tasks. i wish i was a gen x'er coding in the 90's and 2000's
>>554399153>coding >boringI fear we will never see eye to eye, AI "chads". Thought a truce may be possible.
Not like this rotate xisters. Not like this.
>>554399274>pocketwatching
>>554396563>I see no point in devving if I know any retard will be able to prompt the exact same thingYou remember the site clientsfromhell?The average person is beyond retarded. The barrier stopping them has never been accessibility, it's the fact that even with every tool at their disposal they still won't know what a good product looks like, what they want, or how to articulate it.Even with a perfect AI, the average use case will be>AI, make me a roguelike>"here you go">No, not like that, make it better>"I don't know what you mean, is this better?">NO! BETTER!until they either settle for shit or give up, then inevitably buy a better version from someone who actually knows how to use the tool.You already see this in the art community. We all thought AI would kill artists, but commissions are at an all-time high even though anyone can download a Dagasi or Dacad lora and make anything you want in their exact style, animated and all, in a matter of seconds. It's accessible, but it was never about accessibility.Same thing with Onlyfans despite porn being free. Do you think the average OFfag is a millionaire because no one knows how to google tits?
>>554398601proof?
>>554398921>I cut it all nice so I could eat it like a civilized gentleman over a few hours while I work, but I ate it all in 2 minutesKEK! It does look nice but ehh doesn't mean much if you're eating it alone and scarfing it down fast. It does however make for a good boost to morale when it looks fancy. You just wanted to show us a nice looking plate didn't ya? Lol looks nice. Btw why don't you request a Steam Deck? I assume it'd be easy to get one since you have a released game that's gotten downloads.
>>554399484Jeet.
>>554399503>furshitkys
I need a JRPG framework that isn't shit
>>554399264rotate i have to admit that you are still one of the most unique people i have ever encountered online or in person. there's a few in person i've met that are up there but still leagues below you. you have a literal motorcycle and your nature is such. i have zero issue just to clarify but rather find it intriguing as a compliment to you. you are wildly unique, rotate
>>554399627thank you
>>554399627>you have a literal motorcyclelol
>>554399503>furchadlive
>>554399601https://store.steampowered.com/app/363890/RPG_Maker_MV/
>>554399503>NO! BETTER!loooool
>>554399279>>554399292>hey Claude, write a function that accepts a source texture, a target texture, and the coordinates and proportions on the target texture where the source texture should be painted>hey Claude, I now have an object DecalParameters with texture,x,y,width,height,angle,r,g,b,a so replace the previous function so that it accepts only DecalParameters and the target texture as parameters>hey Claude, I now have more parameters outlineThiccness,r,g,b,a for the DecalParameters. write a shader that will create an outline around the decal if outlineThiccness is more than 0 and have the original function use itthe problem with writing this kind of code is that the interesting parts are devising what it should do. the boring part is running the function 50 times and checking the results and debugging it everything works correct. AI does that in a couple tries, I'd need at least 10
>>554399503>>554399834STOP... right there chatgpthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npsg0UvEGIw
>>554399520you'll get your proof at the end of the year
>>554397535Nta but I certainly am hoping so. Public companies can't just keep throwing money at it for years without profit to show for it. I hope AI fails. How else would I be able to buy a laptop to dev on without potentially overpaying? I haven't looked at laptop prices but desktop parts have already gotten rip off tier. Devs have to either pay up for certain parts or settle for less, parts that can help with game development.
>factorio but it's about feeding me many lovely pies>stick a morality system in there or something idk
>>554399983gogem abuses his AI like this lol >>554367039>>554369534He's a real sickie
>still seething about gogem because he DARED to speak up about gabencuntSteamies...
>>554400019
Let me take you back to when I shipped and lost my mind againWoke up to the sales convinced my dream had hit its endBurning through launch week while my savings turned to dustIf he’s there, I’ve got a message for Gabencunt up aboveFUCK(YOU)If he’s home, I’ve got a message from belowA bundle's not enough if I starve inside my home If he’s there, I’ve got a message for Fatfuck who takes the cut:Here am I, take me to the Steam front pageSo I can look you in the eye when I spit in your faceHere am I, take me to the Steam front pageDon’t let the door hit you on the way out when I patch this mess
>>554399837No I get it, Claude understands the correct syntax and methods to accomplish most things and by knowing what you require from the code you're more likely to get the correct output while avoiding the manual iterations that are inherent in programming. But you're also not getting the dopamine feedback loop from carving these solutions out yourself, which is an autistic way of saying you've actually removed what is enjoyable about coding from the "boring" tasks you're solving. But it's a new paradigm, a new era, I'm not resisting. When I do jump into it, I'm comfortable knowing I will already be leaps and bounds beyond the average raging AI chud who has been shitting up these threads for years.
Do people care about file size, as long as it isn't tens of GBs? My game would probably be like 5MB if I coded it in C++, but making it in Unity or Godot bumps it to like 100MB at least
>>554400079make the world's most efficient but complex game and you won't need anything other than a hamster running on a wheel
How do I make a clicker game anon?
>>554400585>my daddy says gaben bad you don't make fun of him Grim.
>>554400814no
>>5544008153D development can benefit from a good GPU and lots of ram though. Development environment isn't the same as the gaming environment.
>>554394772You spent money to make this lol
>>554401067>still seething
>>554401067its free retard
>Grim.Remember when we looked this up on the archive and every single usage of it was dozens of posts from him making some doomer crypost about how gamedev was pointless and we should all stop.Bro spends money to fail to make a game with AI and then comes here to cry to strangers about random things like ecelebs to cope. GRIM
