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>Falcom Games
https://pastebin.com/DsiJppXk
>Pastebin (aka music)
https://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)
https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s
>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translations
https://nyaa.si/user/Ganba
https://nyaa.si/view/1749605
https://nyaa.si/view/1749617
>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2
https://pastebin.com/g7PfH0bL

>Kai MTL patch
https://files.catbox.moe/ygv0l2.7z

UPDATED: 01/15
>Trails Beyond The Horizon is out on Steam on January 15th:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3316940/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_beyond_the_Horizon/
>Trails in the Sky 2nd Chapter is confirmed 2026.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4225980/Trails_in_the_Sky_2nd_Chapter/
>Falcom's Shareholders Meetings 2025 Q&A thread
https://x.com/michsuzu/status/2001538421702168955#m
>Ys X Proud releasing on February 20th for Switch 2, PC, and also PS5
https://noisypixel.net/ys-x-proud-nordics-western-release-date/
>Trailer Ys X Proud
https://youtu.be/tB9S4XAj8pM?si=s5l3guOaM1WWkFEK
>Edia to port PC-Engine Ys, Dragon Slayer and The Legend of Xanadu games to modern platforms
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/09/edia-to-port-pc-engine-ys-dragon-slayer-the-legend-of-heroes-and-the-legend-of-xanadu-games-to-modern-platforms
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Gooning to Rixia's buttcrack
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Agnes will win the Van bowl!
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Reanasis please consider the OF suggestion, you need a new computer
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>another 800 posts of the resident addict engaging in maldcore
lol lmao @ ur general broskis
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For me, it's Towa.
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For me, it's Ragecuck asshole status?
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>>554524320
How the fuck did Lloyd not tap this? Did all MCs decide to not bother tapping their women ever since Joshua decided to put on that dress for his MC Estelle?
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>>554524550
Very loose from the pounding.
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>Trash in the Sky
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Vankid...
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Finished Horizon. I think Horizon has solidified ASO as the worst group of protagonists in the series. I genuinely don't understand what Falcom was trying to do here. And they somehow created Heroines worst than Elie, how can you fumble Elaine and Agnes. Especially, Agnes, who spent the last two games preaching and decided to be the biggest hypocrite of all time in this game, solidifying herself as a bottom tier character.

A big issue ASO has is that they get no development and they don't do anything. They just follow Van around every day, while he does 90% of the work. They're just extra muscle. It's even more obvious of an issue in this game where you swap between Rean and Kevin's POV. Where their companions are well rounded, and they actually DO STUFF. They all have their skills and roles to play that complement each other. It is bizarre to me that ASO struggles to have more usage than Old Class 7. Calvard has a smaller core cast bro, how does this happen.

Anyways, Horizon was still good minus the Van route and anything having to do with those characters. The Rean and Kevin route are about what I expect from trails, and those were a lot of fun.
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>>554526558
>someone else actually finds Agnes preachy and aannoying
And here I thought it was just me
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>>554526558
>I liked Horizon except for 80% of it
huh?
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>>554526558
Agnes is a weird one, because while I like what she did behind the scenes in Kai, it makes no sense taking into account her morals in the first two games, and how she treats Van the last game for doing exactly what she did in this game lol.
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>>554525236
Actually, it's remembered better than Kai is by Falcom, kek
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Why are Rean and Crow surprised that Excalibur can fly? Their Tyrfings can too.
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>>554527759
Probably because they didn't think Calvard tech was ahead. Then again, even regular soldats also had jetpacks built into them and you can even see it in CS3. It is what happens when you get a shit load of money from Erebonia.
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>>554527956
Excalibur can barely be called Calvard tech, it's pretty much an artifact (which makes me wonder why the church didn't lay claim to it)
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>>554527956
There was also a line like "that's not a divine knight" or something like that. Although even Juna flew in Reverie.
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>>554527759
IIRC, most mechs need to be outfitted with a booster pack to fly instead of having it naturally.
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If two Tyrfings can take out Excalibur then a Tyrfing should be able to dunk on a regular Calvard soldat desu
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>>554528550
Its all skill issue. These are all questions of skill. AFs are better than Tyrfings in specs.
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>Sky city
>Zero-Ao
>Glint from friendship link power
>Kuro no - Chrono

Now i get it, i think
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>>554528776
broofs?
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>>554526558
anyone who thinks its only the van route thats bad is a shitposter because they're all bad
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>>554528065
Didn't you watch the Grim Garten episode? They tried but they were stopped.
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>>554529098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G40QFheIgw
2-37-00
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Kai 2 will be Their Game and there's nothing you can do about it.
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2026 is going to SUCK for Falcom.
If Trails in the Sky 2nd Chapter is going to be their only new game...good luck with sales. They will need it.
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>>554529794
Kyoto Xanadu
Ys X True edition
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>>554529325
> Grim Garten
I admit no. Stopped by who?
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>>554529885
Kai/Horizon 2 needs to be top priority.

The problem is it's going to be hard for Failcom to please their customers (players of their own ethnicity and those who truly love Trails, i.e. hardcore anime otaku), and their Blackrock and Vanguard shareholders at the same time.

Giving Larry Fink the finger will make them lose some funding, yes. But giving their customers the finger a second time will make their finances suffer even more.

Falcom putting Kai 2 first and finishing the Calvard arc is the only correct option.
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>>554530142
>Kai/Horizon 2 needs to be top priority.
Vankid... It's been over 10 years since TX and years since the last Ys game. Wait your turn.
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the last ys game came out a year ago
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>>554526558
People praising Kevin route when it condenses all of Falcom's bad habits from recent years, it's something I find difficult to understand.
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haha...
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>>554530142
Horizon 2 might end the series. They screwed up too much in the end of Horizon 1 to make any meaningful fix of these events.
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>>554530468
Proud Horizons is just an expanded re-release. The last Ys game came out in 2023.
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>>554530472
Yeah Kevins route is easily the worst in the game idk what people are on about
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>>554529263
The people who like the other routes are massively blinded by nostalgia, and I'd wager are mostly Rean/CSfags. Kevin's route is just as bad as Van's, and Rean's was legitimately pointless. The shortened lengths also help mask the issues of the other two routes.
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How can Erebonia ever compare with Calvard when Calvard has immigrants that can do everything better?
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>>554530142
Kai 2 is a guaranteed financial disappointment. They released 3 duds in a row, a fourth Calvard game isn't going to fix bad sales. People might be pissed but they'll come back for the next arc.
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>>554526558
And what exactly did you expect Agnes to do in that situation?
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>>554531179
Erebonia is a backward country whose only advantage were mechs and army size. Trains? Kalvard has trains, excellent roads, and a metro. And cinema has long existed in Calvard. Rean in CS1 was amazed that the images could move. In the One Day War, Calvard didn't even declare mobilization, but he fielded an almost comparable army.

>>554531253
Kai 2 will be the last game of series.
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>>554531667
Haha, the series is going out on a whimper after 3 of the worst games in a row...
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I just can't take take the doomers seriously man
they say calvard is bad but are rabid and demanding we get Kai 2 RIGHT NOW, they literally cannot wait 2 years for the next entry lol
like... if you're that eager to play the next game maybe you do actually enjoy the arc? weird tsundere act honestly
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>>554532353
I say use the Kai ending to pretend the arc didn't have and just make another one.
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>>554532004
Grandmaster is Agnes from the past loop. Much has already been revealed in Kai. A little more remains. The final battle: Agnes vs Grandmaster.

>>554532353
>2 years
Too much for DLC with old assets
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>>554532353
at this point i only want kai 2 for more altina and towa.
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>>554532974
I actually like Calvard arc, lol
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>>554532630
A little heart-to-heart here man, you aren't very funny or witty, or even "cool".
This little rebellious act of being a Falcom fan that endlessly belittles Falcom is tiring, and grating.

I get it, you probably grew up with TGWTG and AVGN, maybe even The Cinema Snob.
So I get it, I get the culture of being an exaggerated hyperbolic critic as a substitute for a personality.
But times change and so does culture. Right now? Right now there's a lot of strife and uncertainty in the world and people generally seek harmony and positivity.
This act of yours is kind of really outdated and not very pleasant.

Don't get me wrong, you are free to be your own person and make your choices. And if the choice is to continue being seen negatively by people and having a negative impact on the world, that IS your choice. I won't take that away from you. Agency is important after all.

But it's been a while of this back and forth between us, and frankly I get the impression you're getting worse man. You seem more prone to angry outbursts and to just fight people out of habit. Like it's become routine to spend your days engaging with other in a very ugly and negative way.

And I'm empathic, I'm here typing all of this out because you're a fellow Falcom fan. And that little bond that unites us makes me root for you, man. It makes me wish you could leave this corrupting attitude behind you. It's having a really ugly impact on your life and I don't think it'll ever be worth it. You're not really going to get anything out of indulging this mean side of you.

I know, I know, this is 4chan after all. You can insult me now, or call me gay for daring to care about you. It's all text so it won't hurt me.
But I had to try at least, man. For your sake, I had to invest some of my time on maybe helping you out. If not now, then maybe this will be a seed that might help you in the future.

Despite it all, I am rooting for you, man.
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>>554532353
Maybe they want it to be over so we can move on?
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Very late to the kai party.
So the reason Ouroboros have advanced tech(sky to cold steel) is due to Novartis being a resident from a different iteration?
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>>554533498
Did you reply to the wrong post?
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>>554532353
Yeah, like why do you want the next game if you hate ASO and most of it is going to feature them?
But then you see someone in this same thread saying that Kai is good even though they didn't like 70-75% of the game, and you don't know what to think anymore.
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>>554534102
just move on now? it's a video game lol the finale isn't going to impact your life, much less if you're emotionally checked out already
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theyre mocking us...
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>>554535823
Na-chan has achieved CHIM... Her Act 3 scene in Daybreak 2 makes so much sense now
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>>554534416
obviously people are not "emotionally checked out", and even if you hate Calvard you played 10 games to get there.
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>>554535961
there's incongruity between your words and your actions
if you want to move on you can just do so, you don't need permission from a video game
take control of your life or quit acting like a victim
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>>554536373
Your armchair psychology bullshit isn't going to convince anyone. Wanting to finally see the ned of a story that is taking decades to end is not "omg I lost control over my life".
One Piece fans are about the same way at this point
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when does horizon get good?
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>>554537492
what armchair psychology? if you don't like the series what makes you think the ending will impact you?
might as well move on now rather than spend another decade victimizing yourself over a video game series
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>>554538212
>Calvard is the entire series! Fuck the other ten games!
lmao
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what if Gramhearts plan worked? how would he explain to the voting base that all the space stuff was a lie to explode a flying box
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remember when things used to happen in trails games before the final hour of the game
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>>554538284
oh
I was addressing the general doomers of the series and used Calvard/Kai as the latest example
but I see the confusion if you do like the other arcs and only dislike this one
my bad, fella
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>>554538497
haha... trails to the impeachment
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unironically incredibly excited to get Ys X Proud Nordics next month and then be 100% up to date with Falcom
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why do aarons crafts all look worse than they did in kuro 1/2
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>>554539553
Have you played Private Stripper and Computer the Gold yet?
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>>554538497
He'd have just saved the world, why would he suffer for it
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>>554540431
where is the proof that he saved the world
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>>554538010
whenever you're not playing van
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>>554540584
Vankid is gonna be furious when he wakes up...
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I keep seeing people call Horizon one of the best games in the series but I've yet to see a single person explain why
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>>554542576
why don't you ask them instead of coming to us wtf you want us to tell you
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>>554542576
I have seen people say otherwise both on reddit and steam.
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>>554539786
i used him all the time in 1/2 but i am benching him a lot in this game
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>>554539786
2bh I find a lot of the "visual upgrades" on Crafts to be 50/50 on whether they're actually an improvement or not. Making something more animated doesn't inherently make it look better if the actual camerawork and perspective is shit.
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>>554542962
one of aarons crafts in db1 had him do a bunch of quick slashes and then jump into the air and do a big slash and it looked cool but then in horizon he does like one slash and then does a bunch of flips to do another slash and it looks retarded every time
the whole jump kick thing they added to one of vans crafts is really unnecessary too
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>>554542576
>I keep seeing people call Horizon one of the best games in the series

who? a couple of r*dditors?

the majority of people put horizon in low to mid tier. reviews in japan are only marginally better than db2.
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>>554543487
>the whole jump kick thing they added to one of vans crafts is really unnecessary too
Haha.... remember when we saw that in the trailer and thought this was his 3rd S-craft only to learn that he didn't even get a new one at all?
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>>554542576
It has hype and aura moments for the simple-minded Reanspics so that's already enough for them to seal clap and call it a 10/10 game
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>>554542962
I always skip these animations
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OH NO NO BROS PEOPLE LOVE HORIZON. OUR PLAN IS FAILING
https://twitter.com/MegaMiyamori/status/2013543345130176603
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>>554542576
You're seeing extremely emotionally invested simpletons shill the game everywhere. They're making /v/ threads on cooldown to tell you how great it is.
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Any game in this series where you have to constantly swap Quartz between parties is automatically shit.
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13 games in, still no loadout or way to swap quartz. Even FF7 let you swap easily and it's the first game with this system and 30 years old.
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>>554544367
this
i dread every single time the route changed and i had to spend 10 minutes redoing everyones setups then having to go into the garten and redo them all again
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I didn't hate Horizon but it was like a 7/10 if I'm being generous. Leaning more towards a 6. It's like eating a really large meal but it just doesn't really fill you up all that much and you're still hungry when it's finished.
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>>554524238
I miss the Rean Kneling memes and shitposting
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>>554548080
Now you have the furious schizoroonie having daily meltdowns about Sky until it swaps personalities and starts melting down about Cold Steel while aggressively responding to every post that criticizes or mocks Daybreak in any way until it gets bored and starts samefagging about femanons nonstop until bedtime. Bring the Joshuaschizo back.
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i think it speaks worse of you guys that you spend so much of your life here you have nicknames for every posting habit
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>>554550301
Meanwhile you have a name for every female poster and constantly egg them on.
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>>554535935
haha. shes a little late to the party, if you include Cassius, Cruise, Jessica, and Campanella that would push things to five. maybe six if you wanna include scarecrow.
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yeah lets have a streamer advertise our terrorist secret society
these games became so fucking stupid over the years
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>>554527337
falcom is known for creating shoddy paper thin knock offs and madokagnes is no different. Madoka and Homura's dynamic are exactly that, two fags fighting over whos gayer. Madoka refuses to let homura fall on the sword and vice versa.

I don't know what falcom was thinking with this. This is such an unsolvable problem for madoka fans that they created a retcon movie that brought the entire series back to the starting line and then let the entire thing die for 12 years. Theres no lesson they can xerox here for a quick fix. theyre basically torpedoing their entire story if they cant write their own way out of it. or maybe theyre shamelessly delaying kai 2 for walpurgisnacht in the hopes that it delivers. Personally I think thats a little too optimistic to hope for. we dont even have a date for the film.

Lately I've been having fun
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The only option for Falkom to properly conclude the romantic storylines in the series would be a lengthy act in the final game of the last arc, where we would sequentially use bonding points for each of the main characters to see the outcome of our chosen decisions throughout the game.
For Estelle, it would be Joshua and...erm?
Joshua - Estelle, Kloe, Josette
Kevin - Ries or other church nuns
Next comes the Big Three
Since there is too large a pool of heroines here, there will only be those who at least were “approved” by Falcom, so:
Rean - Laura, Alisa, Emma, Fie
Lloyd - Tio, Elie, Rixia, Noel
Van - Elaine, Judith, Shizuna, Agnes(?)
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>>554549441
Does chinaman still stream these games atl east
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>>554556750
No point since people can play the games day 1 now.
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>>554557014
only the remakes which no one cares about because skys plot is 20 years old and they aren't changing any of it
remains to be seen if kai 2 will be a worldwide release which i would bet money on that it won't be
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>>554557124
Define no one.
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>>554557124
>no one cares about
Sky 1st is currently the highest rated game in the series. It's time for you to accept reality
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>>554557226
>>554557367
im saying no one cares about the streams for it retard
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>>554557396
>I-I MEANT!
Concession accepted
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>>554557471
He's not gonna like this.
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>>554557471
its not my fault you're a retard who cant understand context
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>>554557471
Skybab...
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>>554557471
kek holy shit
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Uh oh melty
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>>554557878
Skybab lost his shit after Horizon was successful. His asshole is still destroyed.
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So exactly what I said would happen, is, and people are finding out that Horizon is shit
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Hello Vankid
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>>554558216
Homeboy though we was gonna be like them Japanese cucks and not show out for our GOATs Van, Rean, and Kevin. Nah son we love TRAILS here.
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I like Horizon but I don't know how anyone can prefer it to Trails 1st, at least in 1st you're engaging in plor progression and combat at a steady pace
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>>554559116
1st is a bad remake. Horizon beats it.
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It's really cringe how you do an 4SPG and all the gang stand around in the cutscenes interjecting to justify being there, you're making a taco and there's like 5 of you talking to the quest giver saying things like 'oh that would be really important in that case' and generally saying nothing whilst saying absolutely nothing
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>>554559116
1st is the best game in the series in over 10 years
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>>554559292
I think it's a good remake, it does't try to say 'oh lets change this because we can do it better now' like most remakes do, they didn't remove any parts to appease modern players, the combat has changed of course and I do wish they made the CP economy closer to the original, but I prefer it to Horizon's kitchen sink approach of mechanics upon mechanics upon mechanics, also Crafts feel way more impactful in 1st imo
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>>554559354
Absolutely, and I'm biased because SC is my favourite game but if 1st was this good then seeing the stuff in 2nd, Renne, Society, Loewe...is going to be orgasmic
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>>554559749
Same. The trailer looks great.
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>>554559749
to be fair you've only played FC and SC lol
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>>554559970
no
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>>554560131
prove it
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>>554559970
>Only I managed to beat every game in the series
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>>554559116
Well some parts are a slog to go through like Ruan from the moment you arrive in Jenis. Then I suppose it depends a lot on how much you like the casting. For me Sky's is always the one I'm least enthusiastic about.
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>noooooooooo you can't just play all the games and end up disliking calvard! that means you didn't play it! aieeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>554559970
series should have ended at SC TBF
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>>554559970
kek this post got them rumbling
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>>554560462
This. Trails should've just been ED6. ED7 should've been something else.
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You know, ragecuck never did apologize to Reanasis like he said he would...
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>>554560285
nah I haven't gotten around to Horizon and Sky 1st yet but he said the other day he never even beat Sky 3rd so it's kinda weird to say SC is his favourite when he hasn't finished 11 out of 13 games lol

>>554560462
nah though

>>554560530
idk why since there's no shame is not having caught up lol just don't act like you have
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It's crazy how Cold Steel basically eliminated roads from the series. Sky and Crossbell had dungeons but also getting from the town to the dungeon was also a stretch of land, no wonder I feel so boxed in as I play Horizon, I have to do chores in Edith's 5 districts or whatever before I'm lucky enough to unlock the sewers
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>>554560841
Leave me out of your schizo arguments with anonymous board celebs
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>>554561013
you mean the arc famous for introducing rideable horses and bikes for their long roads?
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>>554561183
Don't mind schizzy. He always has to mention Cold Steel negatively even if it's completely nonsensical. Rean Derangement Syndrome has ruined his life.
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Vankid can't help but stay mad about Rean, and also Sky
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>>554561172
? don't get involved if you don't want a reply lol
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>>554561389
Don't forget Sky. Never mentions Crossbell, thoughbeit.
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>>554561706
He hasn't played Crossbell, he doesn't know how
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>>554561769
lol
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I'm actually so sick of how preachy Van gets despite always going "oh im just a scumbag don't take my advice." I had to stop playing because his umpteenth you're-not-living-your-life-correctly speech to Jeffrey was just too cringe
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>approach enemy
>hit square
>use 0 EP cost cetus phantasma
>kill every enemy
>repeat
Incredible combat system.
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Sis you still need to get a better PC if you have to run Horizon at potato settings
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>>554562259
t. Reanspic
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Played Horizon aka Daybreak 3 for a good ten hours and I already feel so burned out that I am thinking of switching to the easiest difficulty just so that I can enjoy the animations and whatever the story has in store.
The game gives you so much shit that none of the items really mean anything at this point.
The bosses have so much more hp yet dont really do anything outside of a few danger moves. So every engagement is very long and feels more like a test of patience than anything involving strategy.
I think I might be too old to play JRPGs.
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Come to think of it, should Daybreak have taken notes from Final Fantasy 15 and been a big road trip adventure with a car you could manually drive around the region?
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>>554562621
Nah, FFXV is dogshit. Even Cold Shit is better
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>>554562805
>FFXV is dogshit.
And yet still single-handedly sold more than the entire Kiseki series combined. Kisekisharts do you really
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>>554562304
Haha, it sure is... great.
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Kai reset the timeline.
Van's final chapter will be him doing 4spgs alone and everyone will clap.
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>>554559591
It has a censored script, easier combat, holds the hands of the players with waypoints, and as a remake it doesn't really even try to bridge the gap between it and later arcs. It's a waste.
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I can't believe ASO's strongest fighter is a schoolgirl with a magical girl theme...
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>>554562978
sold more ≠ good popularity ≠ indicative of quality
hope that helps!
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>Mirabelle, Becky and Kevin are all intended to have the same accent
>Except Becky is Scottish, Mirabelle is suddenly from the Deep South when she wasn't in previous games, and Kevin's accent is barely noticeable
Thanks localisers...
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anyone gaming
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>>554563208
>it doesn't really even try to bridge the gap between it and later arcs
Good, fuck the later arcs, if I see glowy red evil eyes in 2nd Hamil flashbacks then I'm going to crash out
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>>554564192
Only femanons play games
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>>554564358
Based. This series ended with Zero.
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>>554563867
NISA's take is better with it. The problem with Kansai in Kiseki is that it means that people all from different countries somehow manage to have the same accent when that's really stupid.
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>>554559970
Sublime choice, by the way. One that leaves you with a pleasant aftertaste of playing a great jrpg that can easily stand on par with the giants of the genre. Everyone who playes everything that came after are in for a freak ride. There's as much reason to that as in watching every Jurassic Park movie after that first one.
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>>554564358
Skybab... If you despise 10 games out of 13 you should leave already.
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>>554563867
it makes sense for them not to all have the same accent
in japanese that's just a limitation of kansai being the only real "hick accent"
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>>554564663
vankid you also hate 10 out of 13 LOL
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Please let this series end already and do something different. The plot has a gorillion different holes and they keep drilling more. Its hard to believe this is even the same game as Sky.
The technology advances like a hundred years in just five or six years. We go from crude looking airships into gundam mechs into nigh omnipotent AI into space rockets and hologram demons.
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Skybab....
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Do you really need to be so hyperbolic all the time? You're the ones looking stupid if and when you say shit like
>Sky was the last good arc!
>The series died in Azure
>I only care about Rean's games!
>Calvard is the best arc!
or especially
>[x] arc is shit and killed the series
How sad you spent likely 1000 hours on something you end up hating or think hasn't been good in ages. You could have gotten a doctorate in that time or grown a successful business and stated a family...
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>sky bad
>crossbell bad
>cold steel bad
>CALVARD THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST
>sky remake bad
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>>554564958
>The plot has a gorillion different holes and they keep drilling more
Namo ONE(1)
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>>554565162
Female mindset
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Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
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>>554565631
cute
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>>554565239
No Rean and Towa wedding.
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>>554564831
I love Sky.
I love Crossbell.
I love Cold Steel.
I love Calvard.
You only have hate in your heart, twisted by playing 10 games in a row that you despise. And it's good that you admit this now. The correct thing for you to do is to let Kiseki go. It's outgrown you and you should relieve your heart of the burden of your sunk cost.
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>>554565692
>I love Sky
>but spend every second on /fg/ calling people skybabs
lmao u like nothing
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>>554565545
>enjoying things is female
>realizing you have wasted thousands of hours on something and that time could have been better spent is female
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>fc
Good.
>sc
Great.
>3rd
Good.
>zero
Great.
>azure
Great.
>CS1
Great.
>CS2
Good.
>CS3
Good.
>CS4
Bad.
>Reverie
Good.
>Daybreak 1
Bad.
>Daybreak 2
Bad.
>Horizon
Bad.
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>>554565673
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>>554561183
>>554561013
Cold Steel doesn't get enough creditfor the Train Ride autism it has, where they make a point to say how far each areai s away from Thors by train and how many times they need to switch train
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>>554565861
You're the part of the fanbase that never learned how to move on from Sky. Acting like a baby when confronted with the 10 games after Sky. As someone who loves all arcs, I can call a spade a spade. Free yourself from your pain Skybab. Be better.
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Big oof. They got exactly 1 turn before dying on Nightmare.
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>>554566479
You're obsessed with conflict. You don't like games. You like conflict. That's your hobby. Conflict. You're an addict.
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>>554565878
Yes, good that you understand
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>>554566664
You're a sad little man.
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>>554566994
At least I am a man
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>>554567193
Haha, you're giving the addict what it wants...
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Agnes is more proactive on her feelings towards Van than any girl in the series is, including Van's ex-girlfriend, that's hilarious
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>>554566582
I love the games. But you? You make it your mission to shit on the games. You want people to hate Kiseki after Sky. Isn't it tiring? If you can't enjoy Kiseki anymore when you're not shitting on them isn't that a sign you need to stop engaging with Kiseki? Are you even surprised that there's "conflict" when people aren't all so negative about Kiseki like you are?
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>>554567503
Projecting hard. I'm not even the one you initially responded to. You do constantly start shit by spamming "Skybabs" and by engaging in hostile "banter" day in and day out. Addict.
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>>554567287
I'm not giving her my cock
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>>554526558
>I think Horizon has solidified ASO as the worst group of protagonists in the series.
That'll always be Old Class VII for me. They were basically all made completely irrelevant halfway into the first game of 5. Then they just hang around as filler to make your bloated party even more bloated.
>>554529885
>>554530142
Realistically, non-kiseki games do not sell well anymore. Even Ys sells poorly now. Kiseki games still manage to sell by virtue of the fact they have an international audience that other Falcom IPs don't have, but every Falcom IP is DOA in Japan, and every non kiseki IP is DOA internationally.
So after they've done SC, it'll be straight onto Kai 2. I wouldn't be surprised, given their one game a year rule, if Falcom doesn't release a non-kiseki game for the next half decade.
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Why do the first ten hours of every modern Falcom game have to painstakingly dump exposition at me as to who the dozens of characters around me are and what the current state of the world/plot is?
Nobody is playing Kai as their first kiseki game, and if they are they deserve to be lost.
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>>554567878
if they stopped releasing them every year maybe they wouldn't have to reuse 90% of the last game's assets and make the new game feel like a step up
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>>554563621
Sorry, but Kiseki has none of those three qualities. Hope that helps!
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>>554567701
You're so desperate to spread your negativity that you're pretending to be someone else now. Do better anon. You want to go through the same song and dance because you want to distract yourself from the fact that you hate Kiseki.
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>>554566052
>fc
Great
>sc
Great.
>3rd
Great
>zero
Good.
>azure
Great
>CS1
Abominable
>CS2
Abominable
>CS3
Bad
>CS4
Abominable
>Reverie
Bad
>Daybreak 1
Good
>Daybreak 2
Bad.
>Horizon
Mid

ftfy :)
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>Rean returns after several games
>Within five seconds there is already a "Haha" and a "Rean...."
I genuinely love Falcom's writing. They know what the audience wants.
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>>554567878
Old Class 7 are objectively important for all of the first two games and even in the three after that.
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>>554568216
That's literally what they are doing with Kai -> Kai 2 but you faggots keep whining about having to wait. Can't have it both ways
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why did crow get noel's s-craft in kai
did he fuck noel
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>>554568365
Projecting hard again. You're addicted to conflict and negativity. I bet I like the games more than you do. This is your life. Day in and day out. Pure hostility. You should seek help. You're the one who really needs it.
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You guys know that you can dislike cold steel and dislike calvard at the same time right? Not all calvard haters are cold steel lovers. In fact a good amount of calvard fans are cold steel fans due to the MCs being the same archetype(penchant for self sacrifice)
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>>554568365
yeah, trails is aight
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>>554568216
Falcom is a company that prides itself for never having a year where it didn't make a profit. The only year it came close to being in the red was the year it released Tokyo Xanadu, after some 30 years of always being profitable.

Because of that reason they will always release a game every year. If you don't release a game in that financial year then you don't make any money, and the pride of Falcom won't allow it to not have a profitable year. It's also how Falcom manages to sell shares, by claiming it will never have a bad year.
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>>554568550
Jesus christ nigger was this screenshot taken from the Switch version? Holy shit
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>>554568553
Old class 7 is the most important in cs1-cs3. New class 7 is most important in cs3- reverie
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>>554568560
lol, that is not true, but I admire your optimism.
Falcom won't start properly developing Kai 2 until 12 months before they release it.
We've believed before that whenever there was a greater than one year gap between kiseki releases, that this meant Falcom was taking their time with the game. It has never been true. The reality is the lion's share of Falcom development's effort is spent in whatever game it is releasing that year, and very little is spent nurturing the games it has planned but is not releasing that year.
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>>554568786
Reanasis doesn't have very good computer, be nice to her
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Trails team only gets more than 1 year of dev time if a ys game comes out between releases because that’s handled by a different team.
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>>554568791
I agree but I can't think of a game where OC7 are not important to the plot, not even in Reverie
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>>554568579
I don't know what you think that image proves other than that you're a jaded anon forcing yourself through 10 games that you despise for no real reason. And also that you don't close your games when you're not playing them. Come on anon, that's disappointing in and of itself.
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>>554569387
I remember when Rean was promising Towa they'll get Georg back safe and sound after her blew up the airship Laura's dad was on, she was there and didn't say anything
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>>554569387
I mean when people in here are talking about old class 7 they are talking about everyone besides Rean
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>>554569479
See, now you're scrambling for other angles to get your fill of conflict and negativity. Seek help. You're an inherently toxic, destructive and deeply troubled individual. You can try to lie outwardly, but you know. I like the vast majority of the games in this series. You like none of them. You constantly egg people on and try to start conflict. Skybab this, Skybab that. This is your life.
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>>554569507
I'm not referring to Rean...
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>>554567193
wrong
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Imagine how much better Daybreak 2 and Horizon would be if Falcom didn't immediately kill off Dantes. They made a great villain and got rid of him immediately.
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>>554569747
Anon, admit it that you stopped liking after Sky. That you forced yourself through games you despise. That you only find pleasure in shitting on non-Sky games. Confess to me, Skybab. Confess that Kiseki isn't for you anymore. Stop throwing your toys out of the pram.
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>>554570270
My favorite game in the series is Zero. You're an incredibly broken human being. You get off on conflict. Your twisted "bants" is your life. You're the saddest person I've come across on the internet. There's no escape for you. You'll keep going to fulfill your need.
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>>554570103
I've seenp eople hate him because he's too simple and onedimensional, and to that I say, not every villain needed to be a 4D chessmaster dindu
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the ONLY way to prove you like kiseki is
1) be a female (like Reanasis) and
2) post nudes ITT right fucking now
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>>554570423
>My favorite game in the series is Zero.
Hm... Likely story. For shitposters like you, they hide behind Crossbell to pretend like they don't just like one arc. I've seen Sky fans, Cold Steel fans and Kuro fans all do this. You can't hide anon. Now tell the truth for once.
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>>554570103
Truth nuke

I know every memes about nobody dying in Trails but he shouldn't have died in Daybreak 1
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>Let's visit Gaius' village
>Gotcha! It's more Alisa drama
Thank game
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>>554570898
>You'll keep going to fulfill your need.
This is your life. You know. You will never not know. I'll be specifically avoiding engaging with you from now on, as best as can be done on an anonymous image board. You'll never change. You'll never not be a toxic, evil, broken individual. A vicious rat that feasts on all things negative. And I was sincere when I said I'm not the one you were initially going back and forth with. Come to think of it, that was probably you samefagging. Fits your incredibly broken mind perfectly.
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>>554571091
Gaius just hasn't any drama.
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>>554571091
>I hate Alisa because she's underdeveloped
>ok here's some Alisa develop-
>REEEE GAIUS WAS ROBBED
Why are Alisa haters like this?
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>>554571821
who are you quoting?
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>>554571263
All you can do is dig yourself deeper. Is this the life you want to live anon? Being a slave to /fg/ while you repeatedly tell everyone that Kiseki is shit and that you wasted thousands of hours of your life while continuing to waste thousands of hours talking about it? Let yourself live your life anon, because I'm not going to waste mine any further talking to you right now.
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>>554563621
Skybabs are gonna hate this post
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fufu...
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>>554565162
>>I only care about Rean's games!
no one's ever said this in the history of mankind
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Reanasis you're supposed to be working, stop posting your thirst over Kiseki boys
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>>554568579
wow that's genuinely autistic
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Random thought, but I can't help but find it funny that the moment Falcom stopped giving Alisa blatant favoritism after CS3 is also the moment she started tanking in the popularity polls. A funny coincidence haha....
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>>554573237
But with all the wanking Elise got she was never popular.
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>>554568579
>191 fucking hours in Sky FC
>doesn't have all achievements
lmao what a shitter
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>>554573432
I don't play for achievements. Never used a guide. Never started NG+. Never used mods to get everything in 1 run. Jealous?
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>>554573515
>I wasted my life, jealous?
no, not really lol
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>>554573636
I've replayed the series several times over the years. That's how much I like it. You don't like playing video games? Why are you in a general dedicated to these games if this is your stance?
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>>554573515
Based as fuck. That guy is seething.
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>>554569491
Based Laura showing deference to Towa. She knows who rules the roost.
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>>554573764
>I've replayed the series several times over the years. That's how little I have going on in my life.
lol yikes
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>>554574178
Meanwhile you're shitposting in a general dedicated to video games, while making fun of people for playing them. You're a loser.
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>>554574354
nah I'm only making fun of you investing 191 hours in Sky FC and not having all achievements rofl sad bro
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AAAAAAAA I LOVE FERI
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>>554574517
That's because you're a loser. This is how you spend your time.
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I feel like the only people who complain about Van's route are people who are just mad that Horizon is still a Calvard game. It's really nowhere near as bad as people bitch about.
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Elie is better than Alisa.
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I give up with evade builds, I have given Rixia 100% evade, Aaron's 100% extra counter damage core, Quartz that increase her damage but also her delay, she counters for like 3k
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>>554568579
um where's your roido?
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>>554574678
don't pop a vein unc maybe in 4 more playthroughs you'll get those 2 evasive achievements you keep missing out on
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>/fg/ is now even more unhinged than it was over the weekend because the consensus for Kai is positive
Like did you retards actually start thinking that you were in a majority because some SEAs got together to leave reviews on steam lmao
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>>554574985
I played the Guren version of Crossbell, then Geofront. I bought NISA Zero and Azure on sale but haven't played them on Steam yet. I'll replay them later this year.
>>554574990
Give it a rest, loser.
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Don't feed the schizos by responding to their low quality ragebait.
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Five (5) (V) (Go) (五) (ご) cute facts about Towacutest!:

1. She is canonically atowable!
2. She is mai Kiseki-fu!!
3. I love her!!!
4. Towacutest!!!!
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>>554575683
Made for Georg
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>>554575683
isn't this the midget from the circus act?
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>>554575683
5. BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
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>>554575895
YOU'RE made for Georg!
>>554575989
YOU'RE the midget from the circus act!
>>554576020
YOU BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!
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>>554576203
Reanasis... that's not very nice.
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Kill Nadia, behead Nadia, roundhouse kick Nadia into the concrete, slam dunk Nadia as a baby into the trash can, crucify Nadia, defecate into Nadia's food, launch Nadia into the sun, stir fry Nadia in a wok, toss Nadia into active volcanoes, urinate into Nadia's gas tank, Judo throw Nadia into a wood chipper, twist Nadia's heads off, report Nadia to the IRS, karate chop Nadia in half, curb stomp pregnant Nadia, trap Nadia in quicksand, Crush Nadia in the trash compactor, liquify Nadia in a vat of acid, eat Nadia, dissect Nadia, exterminate Nadia in the gas chamber, stomp Nadia skulls with steel-toed boots, cremate Nadia in the oven, lobotomize Nadia, mandatory abortions for Nadia, grind Nadia's fetuses in the garbage disposal, drown Nadia in fried chicken grease, vaporize Nadia with a raygun, kick old Nadia down the stairs, feed Nadia to alligators, slice Nadia with a katana.
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What’s the consensus of horizon in the west? Is it mostly positive or slightly positive? Or in the middle ground?
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>>554576472
Conflicted on the Steam forum. A lot of people are shitting on the game. Especially the pacing.
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>>554576472
its been out like 5 days most people haven't finished it yet
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This nigga made so mad by rizz that his butt is evaporating cum because he is steaming with anger.
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>>554576472
If you like it you'll only notice people liking it
If you hate it you'll only notice people hating it
Do you like it?
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>>554574695
It's because all the other fans in the community and even the journos say Van's route is the best part of the game
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>>554576524
I liked Kai but the pacing is the worst part of it. It felt bad to play. But after act 2 it was flowing faster. Good to see there’s more different opinions.

>>554576537
I understand I’m just asking for now since trails fans tend to finish games quick at an average of 60 hours
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>>554576636
I mean…. vans route better be the best route it’s like 80 percent of the game if you include finale
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Trails beyond Horizon has HDR?! Kiseki sisters are we graphics whores now?

My 5080 has been vindicated!
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Falcom should have either reduced grim garten floors or reduced the sidequests. Making Kai near same word count as cold steel 4 is a big mistake for a set up game.
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>>554577217
HDR doesn't have a performance cost. And it's pretty bad. You have to use the RenoDX mod for actual HDR. I just play in SDR on my PG32UCDM.
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onore shino's bar
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man horizon fucking sucks dick on steam deck anytime anyone uses a craft all the explosion effects tank the fps
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WHY IS THERE 4SPGS IN THE FUCKING GARTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On which website are all the dialogues from the games?
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>>554578197
trailsinthedatabase though it stopped getting updated a while ago
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>>554576276
She's a Towafa- ...actually nah that tracks. Towa is the perfect self-insert for her.
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>>554578093
There you also need to complete the levels twice to get S-rank, lol.
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>>554578264
It's sad there's no Kuro 2.



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