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almost forgot to bake edition

[PoE 2]
>Druids
https://pathofexile2.com/druids
>Ongoing 0.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212

[PoE 1]
>Keepers of the Flame
https://www.pathofexile.com/keepers
>Ongoing 3.27 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes
>Phrecia event
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3907351
>Compiled links, tools and utilities
https://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt

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>>554830645
First for Jonathan
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D4 Won
NRFTW Won
GGG fell off
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No Rest For The Wicked won. Wunners lost. Pooers pooed.
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Remove energy shield sissys
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wtf is a wunner?
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POO 2?
BIG SHIT
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Poop 2? Supreme stink
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>he is a jingakh
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this tub aint big enough for the both of us
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>>554830645
DOG SHIT OF EXILE 2
NO NEW ACTS OF EXILE 2
NO CHALLENGES OF EXILE 2
NO ENDGAME CHANGES OF EXILE 2
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U [Embed]
HEY!
TROONATHAN!
LEAVE US CHUDS ALONE!

ALL IN ALL, YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER TURD IN THE TUB!
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>LE is kill
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Imagine, if you will, that a fat, sweaty and repugnant man from New Zealand released his bowls into a bathtub. He might be Asian, we just don't know. It's all a little ambiguous. What we DO know is that he is fat. The horrid stench of feces fills the tub and he begins to play in it. Swashing it around with his sausage sized fingers and gargantuan thighs. Reveling in the mess he has created. This is how you get Path of Exile 2.
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>>554831768
Based Chudd, Holly & Co. dabbed on PoE's all-time peak before selling out for big bucks.
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>cunt knows he was blocked by multiple people so he created additional channel?
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>>554831885
Poetry.
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>>554831768
post grim dawn
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I dropped league in act 3 (didnt even bother) because of my wolf constantly screaming OUT OF MANA at me.
How did league shaped out? Was it popular and beloved? (ignoring currency printing mechanic)
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>>554832309
Shit league carried by druid.
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>>554832062
>Extras
>Literally shorts tier length
But why?
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comparison is the thief of joy
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>>554832309
No, it was terrible and Jonathan had to bribe Fubgun and the playerbase with 100 div temple runs to keep tubbed freaks from fleeing.
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>>554832105
Grim.
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>>554830645
They better take out the avoid ailments mods from random area mod pool
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>>554832867
>more than LE
heh
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>>554832867
Titan Quest 2?
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>>554832867
>Game with no real updates for years still has more than LE
Wew lad
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>>554828553
i played infinite vls with the dagger enchant in settlers and it was fucking sick. could be an angle
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>>554832891
They said they removed all mods that can brick builds, so HOPEFULLY that is included
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>>554832891
99% avoid is just a bit less damage, it doesnt brick your build
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TUB SHIT 2
UNBEARABLE STENCH
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>>554833268
le just feels weird to play, the animations arent great or satisfying and the odd way they've tried to directly copy poe supporter packs and leagues is also weird
grim dawn is kind of fun but i wont ever put much time or investment into it
diablo 4 and torchlight are chinese games for third world niggers
i will be trying no rest for da wicked soon, it looks cool
thats my opinion thanks bye
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>>554832867
dawn
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>>554833660
you're close. unfortunately current poo 1 & 2 are both undeniably "chinese games for third world niggers"
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>>554833168
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>>554833981
>less than LE
>less than TQ1
O O F
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>>554833981
market S A T U R A T E D
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>>554833918
nah poe is a based game being taken over by chinese niggers. unfortuneatly they will probably win but i wont be around long enough to see it so i dont care
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imagine being so handicapped your entire gaming world consists of various shitty copies of d2 (which wasnt even that good of a game to begin with)
just a reminder there are real games out there like fortnite and roblox which are actually fun.
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>>554833981
Kitechads won. Zoomerniggers lost bigly.
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>>554833981
My favorite ARPG is Necesse
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>>554834721
retard
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>>554834721
>Being taken over
For the better half of its life btw. Tecent bought GGG in 2018.
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now show the numbers for hardcore minecraft
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>>554835171
and poe didnt become chinese until chris left
hes too autistic and pure to be apart of it anymore
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>>554833981
I wish we had D2 numbers
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>>554833504
Your build is virtually bricked in those maps if you rely on Deadly Ailments to do the heavy lifting for your dps
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>>554835432
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>>554835829
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Just waiting for them to tell us they are nuking Whisperer and wipe out all interest in playing the event.
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>>554830645
finally some recognition for my work
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>>554834721
It's already over, anon. Chinkgun is the biggest PoE streamer and is beyond boring.
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>>554830645
Will pic related be a thing in Phrecia 2? Which ascendancy for the build senpai? Oshabi, Scav or Commander?
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>fresh ascendancies, temp event
>how can I play the exact same gigameta slop for retards????
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>>554836505
Commander but with the Unstoppable or whatever jewel.
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>>554832867
>PoE 2 number 1
Is anyone actually surprised?
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What kind of nigger runs Heist in a 20-day idol league?????????
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>>554836102
That's fine with me. The only Whisperer build I care about was that meme Rage Vortex one.
MFA jank can get fucked for all I care and you can just roll Clustering KB on Oshabi or Scavenger anyway
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poop of excrement
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Reminder that double Vaal is the most funnest build archetype in Phrecia. FREE infinite vaal skills. Only Mark can ruin it now.
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>>554837236
Isn't the Vaal-themed Bloodline basically the same?
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>three week minus one day league
But why though? They could just push 3.28 further back since people are pacified for the moment. Why not just put it on a month? Are they really that confident that they'll get shit done correctly by that time for 3.28?
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>>554836746
Those are probably gonna be the most expensive jewels for the event. Gonna be even more retardedly expensive than Liege of the Primordial by the end of week 1
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>>554837401
you probably didnt play last phrecia, but progression due to idols is insane and you'll get done with the league much faster
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>>554837401
after all this time you still expect a logical process to be in the works ?
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>>554832867
forgot your gog numbers
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>>554837660
I did and it's by far the most I've stuck around for the league. I don't just "finish" characters, I want to keep pushing and make stuff. 3 weeks isn't enough. I can only spend 5 hours a day playing PoE instead of 10 now.
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holy tits trial of chaos is just free money
8 div for a couple minutes of ez clapping
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>>554837928
One.
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>>554837938
100 hours is plenty to finish a giga character with idols. my keepers character basically fully finished is at 120 and thats with fucking around with farms and the league mechanic which you dont have to do
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Alright sisters I'm over endfield now. Now im wondering can I even affford to respec and gear my lvl 95 blood mage with 500 div?
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If you plan on playing wandnigger, bownigger, or ancestral commander slams please just delete your account and don't ever play again.
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I'm playing mana forge arrow
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i am logging into No Rest For The Wicked (Free Weekend)
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>>554838673
what build should I play
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>>554838986
uninstall wizard
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>>554838673
You copy your build and playstyle from perpetually online e-faggots
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>>554838673
Ask them to fix Behemoth then. At least remove the Gruthkul faggotry from it.
>No spells allowed
>When literally 70% of skills are considered as such even if it doesn't make sense
>Get piddly bonuses for it
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>>554838904
guess i have something to do this weekend
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when will they add herald of purity to Poe2
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>>554839319
filtered
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>>554838986
install wizard
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>>554839479
after they add herald of agony
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>>554839480
Nigger, stop ruining my game.
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>>554838665
lmao the weapon alone is that thanks to the ebin temple money printer
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>>554838986
reuninstall on click wizard
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>>554839567
filtered
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>>554839479
when Templar comes out
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Herald of Chaos when?
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>>554839593
yeah it feels like shit. I was thinking about doing something with crossbows but this game has a reload time right? I remember hating that.
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I would listen to him
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chains of command or animate weapon and which phrecia ascendency
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>>554840342
poop of excrement on the dung eater ascendancy
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Why the FUCK would I fuck around fighting arbiter/uber arbiter when I can just sell the fragments for dozens of div?
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>>554839687
>Archive on click samefag destroyer Templar build
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>>554841052
You do you, sis
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>>554841052
Because his drops are worth hundreds-thousands?

Why are any of you guys still playing this league
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Gold is useless to me
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>>554841461
gamble amulets retard
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>>554841461
say that to my face motherfucker. I dare you
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>>554841461
currency flipping is a fun mini game
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>>554841461
>still charges you for maps despite you being his cosmic corruption jannie
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>>554841534
>>554841674
>>554841748
retard
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>>554841052
if your build can't solo uber with 4 other people you should definitely not be dong it.
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>>554841930
I mean idk how much hp that is but i'm sure i could, it would just take a lot longer
I only do like a million dps maybe less
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where is ben?????? this is the most important poe1 league of all time.... where are our heroes?????????????
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If Asmongold doesn't play the new league I won't either.
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>>554842239
roached + walled + keyed + tubbed
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https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/ignatius-budget-spark-coc?ws-ngf5-f7d82102-7e77-4a44-ad24-33b67e8ae7bf=activeVariantId%2C4c6d418a-f7c6-4ad0-8ac8-989369fe33cf

How does this build work without a soul tether that's what I don't get. The 400d version with palm of the dreamer.
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Boughted Hades 2 during Winter Sale and started playing it while waiting for Phrecia.

Is pretty good, dialog is way fucking worse than the first, but the gameplay is better.
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>>554842614
idk maybe try reading the guide
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>phrecia again
fuck off
>free iir,iiq and pack size
hmmm
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How the fuck are you going to get attackspeed-per-dexterity grasping mails for Whisperer? Breach rings probably going to be worth selling.
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>>554843115
Certain breach rings are mega expensive since you can turn in 60 of a specific kind to only get mods from THAT breachlord
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I cant tell when people are talking about POe1 vs 2
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Dead game x2 dead genre dead thread it's over
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>>554843291
It's really easy if you play at least one of the games.
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>>554843291
PoE 1 is the good one. If someone is shit talking a game they're talking about PoE 2.
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whisperer is getting giganerfed btw
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>>554843385
ive beat the POE1 campaign a few times over the years
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ive beat my meat a few times over the day
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>>554843674
Boring and small
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We're all taking it easy until Phrecia 2 next week bro.
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>>554843189
Huh. That means each Esh-only turn-in has about a 15% chance of getting attackspeed. 400~ rings to get attackspeed.

Still pretty bad. But not terrible I guess.
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>>554843518
Blind Prophet and Daughter of Oshabi are just as good.
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In a juicer league is anyone really going to actually do breach at endgame, thoughbeit? Hmmmm 25 shrines per map that each drop 3 guardian maps and 10 scarabs or waste 30 seconds on breach to get a 10c ring....
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I dont understand how people brag about playing a game for a week every 5 months and spend hundreds on supporter packs.
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I hope their balancing goes beyond just nerfing ascendancies & idols and they delete the breach defence encounter so walls stop spawning.
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>>554844254
The PoE community is an ouroboros of losers that feed on each other. Everyone thinks they are being fed but ultimately everyone ends up tubbed.
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>>554844221
what do you think is going to happen to grasping mail prices if nobody does breach
retard
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>>554844592
Nothing because Fubgun is going to quit the game in 3 days and so will (You).
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Crafting items are so expensive and t15 full ritual maps never have shit for omens.
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>>554845173
omen chance on tablets makes them show up but honestly I think the time it takes + low price of splinters makes ritual a bit of a dud.
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>>554845173
Ritual is a turd in the current economy. You're better off doing other league mechanics and just selling stuff to buy omens if you need them. Ritual was honestly never great other than by setting up in a perfect 3 tower overlap in previous leagues, and you can't even do that shit anymore.
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i hate the temple so much
i never get the rooms i need, like 4 of them everytime are connectors
i have max crystal slots and never been able to connect to atziri 1 time
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>quill rain explosive arrow blind prophet
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>>554837491
yeah those are going to be crazy expensive. especially if there are some juicy farms that can actually use billions of dps.
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>>554844767
you dont get it. in a league like phrecia you just keep upgrading your character forever.
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>>554848417
retard
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>>554844254
there is no other game that satisfies my schizophrenia like poe
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>>554848630
calm down ziz
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>cast on slur mancer
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hydrosphere wing of the wyvern
think about it
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where the fuck is my divine ire and scorching ray for wyvern
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>>554849849
meds
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>>554844221
I still need graftcum to gamble for FB Mageblood so
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wish they would just add a unique idol that disables the defense breach
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>>554849849
Wing of the Wyvern is the biggest bait item GGG has released in years.
>lose your weapon slots, adds 85 phys to spells, 250 cold to spells, 250 chaos to spells
WOW IT'S LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHING! Equipping Svalinn and no weapon at all is 100x more player power.
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The funniest part about breacphrecia is that any map you actually want to run doesn't have room for all the shit you'll be stuffing in your maps so breach is literally guaranteed to money stolen some of your content by spawning.
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Guys its ok as a 24 years old incel, no job, no kissing, never on date, balding (norwood 3 maybe 4), quit 5 times studies at university, no friends, 191cm, 78kg, 18cm benis, wristcel, playing retail wow, sometimes poe looking for a girl?
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>>554852497
you don't stuff maps with mechanics in phrecia, you minmax 1 mechanic, maybe 2.
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>>554852497
i doubt it, mechanics can spawn really dense if they need to
glacier harbinger / boxes with cuckwall breach in the 2nd part is going he pure kino, theres gonna be 30 harbingers or boxes in the first part of the map
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stuff THIS *unzips*
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>>554852790
you put way more of 1 mechanic in a map than you do in the base game. thats what he means.

>maybe 2
never 2. only 1 mechanic
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NEVER tecrod
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I wanted to herald max in phrecia but i'm guessing that herald ring is gonna be expensive. It's over. Chris killed the league before it even began
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>>554852861
harby idols...my love...
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i wish chris would kill himself too
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>lvl 95
>93 hours played
>141 deaths
I think that's about a wrap until 0.5
Perfect time to check out NRFTW
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>>554852779
>cm
being a europoor will never be okay it's over for you i'm so sorry.
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eb aw puppeteer
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vb long neck
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coc surfcaster
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>>554853168
just farm it up in like 2 hours of coves retardo
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>>554854014
For me, it's FB Baron Int stacking Zombies
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>>554853168
average fubcel when he has to play the game instead of relying on the trade crutch
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>>554854963
i'm poor and bad at the game
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>>554853168
pussy ass tradie bitch nigge
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Does anybody use Giant's Blood? Why the fuck would any melee build want this thing?
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>>554856271
You do if you have giant dick
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idk, if only there was a site that lets you check out what people are playing (and even filter by keystones)
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>>554856572
I was asking if anyone here knew of any remote theoretical use I know how to use ninja gayboy
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i see, youre just too retarded to answer your own question with ninja
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>>554856271
no reason to use it anymore.
armor got buffed so much that block became worthless, that and armor applies takes up a suffix on all your pieces so you would be stretched too thin to get the str required for giants blood anyway.
dual wield version is just garbage
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>>554856271
It used to be so good everyone used it. So they nerfed it to be so bad noone uses it. Welcome to GGG balancing.
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>>554856271
left side ES melee
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>put quiver on that gives +8 lvls
>skills do less dmg than no +lvl quiver
huh
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>>554858191
retard
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>>554858191
Sweaty, I...
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Ok what is a good class I can play that doesn't use ES and can actually clear.
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defences arent class-locked
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>>554859185
just play the game faggot
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>>554857296
>melee
>spamming a spell
uh huh
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>>554859185
Relic of the Pact Bog Shaman
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>>554856271
aura fags still use it
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Is there a minion build that focuses on supporting one big minion instead of having a ton?
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>>554860453
In PoE1 for Phrecia event agony crawlers are pretty strong for no investment apparently.
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>>554860453
You missed Merc League where building an aurabot to support your merc was a meta power build.
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>>554863214
dang yeah something like that was what i had in mind, like old everquest Necromancer or Magician where you just got one mega powerful pet and support it
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>>554863759
the closest thing I can think of that still exists and is a semi-functional build is Agony Crawler, but that was already a slow build even when it was """"good""""
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>>554865264
holy trvke
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>>554865264
based
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>>554865264
The Bald Nephilim Retard will be reborn soon (release a new game)
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>>554865878
>soon
retard
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>>554865908
You're bald, fat, and retarded, not to mention brown.
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>>554866246
>gets corrected
>has a meltdown
i love to see it, keep it up. chris' game won't probably be released in this decade and won't be announced for another 3 or 4 years. also, you'll probably be disappointed if you want a direct competitor to poe
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release the patch notes you bald fucking retard
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>>554866424
retard
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>>554866480
you fucking braindead bald fuck. i guess the more hair you lose the more fucking iq you lose and now that you are bald you are also retarded
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I wanna go templar but not having marauders fixed action speed is pain
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>>554866752
no public figure at ggg is bald, who are you even schizo talking to?
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no public figure at ggg was ever bald.
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>>554867864
retard
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ggg public figures are bald under their hair
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>>554867864
STOP RETCONNING MEEEEEE
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you only wish you were as WOmanly as Lily
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>>554872026
stop larryposting.
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>new build of the week releases
>they they they they
why are turd eaters like that? it's 1 guy who made the build, not a group.
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>>554872026
zamn, larry looking that day everyday now?
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Wonder if I'll still be able to slam perfect exalts on everything like it's nothing next league
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>>554875431
no, temple is getting nuked
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>>554874963
If this was PoE 1 id play this league so hard just to hoard all the 2 divine headhunters and put them in my stash forever, just fill entire stash tabs with headhunters
But alas, PoE 2 is early access and there will be a new standard so i have zero FOMO
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>>554877161
>>554835829
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casuals and dad gamers are going to complain that the next league mechanic doesn't shit divines to the point that temple rewards will be the new baseline rewards of the succeeding league mechanic
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>>554878004
everyone will complain, because let's face it:
lootless ruthless poo2 ain't no fun, and dropping big loot in loot grinding games is what makes people play
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>3.27 was SSF league
>3.28 will be a juice league
eating fuckin good
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>>554878221
source? i made it the fuck up, that's my source, faggot.
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>GGG introduces poorly thought out mechanic
>Players break it, get far more loot/damage from it than GGG ever expected
>It gets nerfed next league, players riot, most of the nerfs get undone
>repeat
Story of the game. Really the only problem here is that GGG thought they could "just" fix this by releasing a new game where they'll "do it right this time"
Poo2 will just be Poo1 with better graphics and worse gameplay before the end of the decade
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>>554878380
players know what they like and what they don't like.
saying your players are retards for liking a certain thing is hubris that needs to be punished by players leaving.
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>>554878004
>league mechanic doesn't shit divines
I don't understand how it is important. If everyone is rich, nobody is rich
If players want tink sounds, they should just edit their filter or ask Neversink to do it
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>>554878452
making a shit item tink doesn't feel the same as making a 100 bucks note tink, and it will never be the same.
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>>554878004
People said that for affliction. Then we got necropolis. Then we got Phrecia
People said that for rise of the abyssals. Then we got third edict. Then we got Phrecia.
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>>554878452
the fix is not to make divines drop less, but to put a divine sink into the game. inflation has always been an issue in poo2 because the design is flawed.
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>>554878536
What I'm saying is If everyone has hundreds of divines in their stash, these tinks are worthless
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>>554878681
except they are not worthless. instead of 100 you just need 1000 to buy something specific, but that's not worthless.
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>elon musk wouldn't put a $50 note off of the ground because he's so rich he don't need it
not how it works bucko
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>item costs 10 divines instead of 1
>you drop 10 divines instead of 1
nothing really changed, retard
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>>554878641
why do divines need a sink?
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>>554879101
Don't bother, /poeg/ does not have the mental capacity for basic economics
Some of the people here really need tink therapy. Just play the sound effect on loop until they're desensitized
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>>554879217
because else divines only ever go into the economy, but never leave it and inflation will always happen.
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>>554878738
>Orange costs $1 each yesterday
>Orange costs $10 each today so every cent is valuable
No
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>>554879293
>divines are cents
ok retard
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>>554879559
Anon, how would you have felt if you hadn't eaten breakfast?
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>>554879661
i'd rather get 100 cents every map than 1 dollar every 500 maps
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>>554879265
>and inflation will always happen.
why does it matter if inflation happens?
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>>554879661
are you mad your divines aren't selling for a good wage anymore, brownoid?
>>554879752
because it's what people complain about with the temple, i don't mind it myself, but inflation happens because enter and never leave, not because temple is good. temple makes it happen faster, but it always happens.
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>>554879842
>because it's what people complain about with the temple
People complain about inflation because they have been conditioned to have a pavlovian response to the word. It literally doesn't matter in a video game.
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>>554880056
>i am so much better than the ordinary rabble! look at them just responding with their... conditioning! you need to be a big-brained reddit mod like myself with a massive cranium to pull back the curtain of humanty and see what is happening here!
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>>554880187
how is he wrong?
make divs as rare as mirrors or add a sink and people will just switch to a different currency for trade and that currency will inflate.
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>>554880382
the point is that there is no currency sink for the item that is the de-facto dollar in trade. your disingenuous comment won't change the fact that having no sink is bad for the de-facto trade currency, because the items you trade for have sinks - they get used.
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>>554880187
That's right, I am smarter than you. Keep crying bitch nigga
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>everyone but myself is stupid
yeah not how it works, retard.
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>>554880458
You still haven't explained why it's bad though
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>>554880550
it isn't bad in a vacuum, but it's what most people who can't or don't want to do temple complain about. i never said it's bad or an issue, i am simply trying to offer perspective to temple whiners.
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>>554880536
That's exactly how it works, your tall poppy syndrome won't save you retard
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>>554880458
divines get used, they just aren't used by most players because they see more value in using them to trade for items.
the same shit happened in poe1 when exalts were the de-facto trading currency.
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>>554880625
if you're so smart then how come you're a loser?
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then why is div """""the dollar""""" lmao? it makes more sense to run the economy on greater/perfect exalts instead, but poe1 brained mazies clung to muh div too hard
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>>554880678
anon, it's very very disingenuous to say "UUUUH TECHNICALLY DIVINES ARE GETTING USEEEEED".
they obviously do get used, but not even anywhere close to the amount needed.
also, exalts/divines in poe1 have an additional use: the crafting bench. this is where the majority of divines/exalts get used there, and poo2 lacks this completely.
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do people sell hideout maps in trade
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>>554880805
most people don't use them in poe1 because they see more value in using them as trading currency, it has always been that way. it's not like currency doesn't inflate in poe1, it always has and always will.
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>>554881638
way way way more people use them in 1 on bench crafts than use them in poo2
there needs to be an equivalent sink to bench craft.
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>>554881717
you mean something like omens? it's not like metamods really matter, it's usually the cheapest part of a craft in poe1.
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>>554881717
>there needs to be an equivalent sink to bench craft.
There doesn't need to be a sink
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>>554881638
Retard, there have been leagues in poo1 where people would rather trade in chaos and the C:D ratio was very low because chaos were very desirable for crafts. Sinks balance the economy and make the currency have value, without sinks your currency is just paper money
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>>554882115
>without sinks your currency is just paper money

You're retarded, divines have a use, people just choose to trade in them rather than something else. You might as well ask why gold has value in real life.
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>>554881943
you are (probably maliciously) understanding what i said. i clearly was referring to divines need to have a use that makes them leave the economy, like metamods do in poe1. omens are doing the metamod task, sure, but that's not the part i was referring to.
divines (and formerly exalts) were used as the trading currency of poe1 because they have innate value in letting you use bench mods, it's a bit like the old USD gold standard.
poo2 has no innate value to divines, using a divine is almost never worth it.
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there is no real reason why divs should even be the main trading currency outside of poe1babs saying so
theres no need for le sink if there is no real problem
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>>554882339
Divines have a very limited and niche use that doesn't even matter to most people. The difference between a set of gear with bottom rolls and top rolls is less than 2% overall damage/survivability
Gold's value IRL would collapse too if everyone mined 100grams of gold per hour
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>>554882339
you're a bad faith retard and it's not even funny. using a divine is almost never worth it because how rare divines are in normal play and how small the gain from using them is.
it is very blatantly obvious how flawed the economy of poo2 is, compared to poe1
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>there is no real reason why divs should even be the main trading currency outside of poe1babs saying so
>theres no need for le sink if there is no real problem
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>>554882543
Yet you still can't point out the flaw

>>554882451
>Gold's value IRL would collapse too if everyone mined 100grams of gold per hour
And it would matter to nobody
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>>554882543
>using a divine is almost never worth it because how rare divines are in normal play and how small the gain from using them is.
which is exactly what people said about exalts in poe1 when they were the big dick currency, and now people say the same thing about divines in poe1.
why would you use a divine in poe1? it's almost never worth it because of how rare they are in normal play and how small the gain from using them is.
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>>554882738
except exalts had a secondary use, that was worth way more: metamods and high-end mods that cost 1 exalt.
divines have that use now, and they get used by a lot of people, even early.
poo2 lacks this secondary use.
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Poo egg
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>>554882738
The "people" in your example are shitters stuck in yellow maps. Anyone dealing with real endgame gear has no qualms about using divines and exalts, and crafters use them by the dozens
When your next upgrade costs 1d, using it on your gear is stupid. When your next upgrade costs 1 mirror, using divines on your gear is not even worth a second though
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>>554882712
if gold was this inflationary nobody would hold it or trade in it.

the flaw is, that once the inflationary cycle starts, it devalues farming, and most avenues of playing, because the amount of currency you get for farming does not go up in proportion to the devaluation of the trade currency.
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>>554882949
>if gold was this inflationary nobody would hold it or trade in it.

And? Who cares?
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>>554883024
retard
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>>554883024
>uh, why isn't gold inflated IRL then huh?
>>it would be if it entered the economy at the same rate as divines
>WELL WHO CARES HUH?
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>>554883069
>no argument

lol
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>>554882906
and what people do you think are crying about divine inflation right now, you think it's mirror crafters? or you think it's the same people who spent the first 2 weeks of the league complaining about exalt inflation?
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>>554883119
And? Who cares?
retard
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>>554883106
>>uh, why isn't gold inflated IRL then huh?
Who are you quoting?
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>>554883158
>can't answer the question
>still no argument

lol
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>>554883146
Why would crafters complain? They have cheap ass currency to craft with
That's the point, sinks benefit the entire economy even if only the top 1% of crafters actually use those currencies in large amounts. You don't have to be a crafter to see inflation
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>>554883146
everyone is crying about it desu, because it's so lopsided right now. you either do temple or you don't play at all. people who say abyss and omen farm is good are coping, temple gives you over 100 divines per run in 10-15 minutes, and you make way way way less doing other content, even if the temple inflation lifts you up. i have a blaster temple but the speed at which divines enter the economy is still feels very bad and is obviously unintended.
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>>554883294
And? Who cares?
You can't answer it either, tranny.
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funny how poe1's prime inflation league had less loss of value on items and currencies than the prime poo2 inflation league huh.
really makes you think.
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>>554883483
You're not responding to any argument though, there's nothing to answer. I'll wait until you actually respond to the argument, until then I'm cutting you off.
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>And? Who cares?
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>>554883671
The only "argument" you made was this:
>>554883024
it's not any form of argument to engage with either, so i don't know what you want.
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>>554883387
>everyone is crying about it desu, because it's so lopsided right now. you either do temple or you don't play at all.

Hey dumdum, without temple nobody would play the game at all. BECAUSE MAPPING IS SHIT AND NOBODY WANTS TO DO IT ANYMORE.
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>>554883801
Of course it's a form of argument, answer the question. You framed a scenario as a problem, but can't explain why it's a problem. Now do so, faggot.
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>>554883849
>They say PoE2 is great but won't play PoE2 unless we burry them in a mountain of divines
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>>554883849
i agree, but even last league inflation was cripplingly bad, see attached graph
poo2 is just that bad and ill-designed
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>>554883945
So let's get this straight:
You ask the question, it's an argument to be answered.
I ask the same question, it's not an argument, and to be dismissed.
my argument is this: you're a goddamn retard that needs to stop posting. you can't refute it.
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>>554883968
inflation isn't a problem except in your head
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>>554883968
alchemy orbs were 1:2000 less than a month into keepers.
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>>554883968
>poo2 exalts are worth as much as poo1 alts
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>>554884074
sure thing retard, tell that to the zimbabwians or to the weimar republic
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>>554884057
>You ask the question, it's an argument to be answered.
>I ask the same question, it's not an argument, and to be dismissed.

That's right, because your question pertains to a completely different topic, unrelated to the argument we are having. Were you dropped on the head at birth? (this is rhetorical, don't actually answer it)
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>>554884128
>>554884136
that's a nice orange to my apples comparison. nobody trades in alchemy orbs or alteration orbs.
i rate the both of you 9/10 for bad faith argumentation.
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>>554884136
PoE 2 exalts = PoE 1 alchs
PoE 2 chaos = PoE 1 chaos (or even alteration)
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>>554884246
belton doesn't want you to know this, but you can trade in anything you want
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>>554884147
>sure thing real life inflation is the same thing as video game inflation
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>>554884208
You're a retard who needs to stop posting. You cannot engage with my superior argument.
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>>554884246
exalted orbs in poe2 have about the same drop chance as alteration orbs in poe1.
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>>554884324
(you) spend more hours of your week grinding temple than working your day job (do you even have a day job?)
PoE is your life
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>>554884334
I accept your concession
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>>554884301
while that is true, i can also only take trades that get offered on the market.
>>554884324
it is comparable, obviously the stakes are different (real life economy fucked, people die) vs (in-game economy fucked, people just quit the game) but everything else is very very alike.
are you autistic?
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>>554884378
Yeah but they dont have the same purpose or function. Exalts arent used for endgame crafting just like alchemies arent. Chaos are though
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>>554884410
>still can't explain why inflation is bad
lol
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>>554884419
Still didn't engage with my argument, what's wrong?
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>>554884432
so why would exalted orbs hold or gain value into the endgame? the only function they have after day 3-4 is adding 2 affixes to a waystone.
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>>554884423
>it is comparable
It's comparable in as much as they are the same word

>in-game economy fucked, people just quit the game
People aren't quitting the game because of inflation. If they are it's because the idea of it is worse to them than what it actually is, i.e they are retarded
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>>554884580
Where's your argument though
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>>554884601
>people are quitting the game because they THINK inflation is bad
>but inflation is good in reality
the economic minds of /poeg/ are wasting their time here instead of using their genius to solve poverty
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>>554884556
Do they? I thought exalts become more and more worthless as you scale into endgame (PoE 2)
If you mean PoE 1, its because many crafts still require exalts. For example cluster crafting, you always exalt slam
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massive retard here
does taking pandemic on bog shaman(lose 5% of life per second if you have been hit recently) insta kill you if you have CI if you get hit?
(i assume the answer is yes)
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>>554884601
so you're saying that players not liking it because it feels bad and them quitting because of it isn't bad?
i might not be directly affected, but when poor billy bob has to grind 10 hours to afford an item, instead of 1 hour, then that's bad for him. yes, he might be a shitter, and yes it might be partially his fault for not being a blaster, but it sure as hell is an issue in the grand scheme.
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>>554884741
No, but you need a source of regen that higher than 5% or flat 1 life regen per second
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>>554884701
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poo2 is all about perception, so the perception of inflation being bad is enough to destroy the game for a lot of people.
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>>554884757
>so you're saying that players not liking it because it feels bad and them quitting because of it isn't bad?

They're not actually playing the game though, they kvetch about the word inflation on the forums because like you they think its bad for no reason. Still, no arguments about why it's bad.
>feelings matter more than logic!
lol
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>>554884812
Doesn't regeneration always round down the final life total? Like how you can't ever be at full life with bloodrage on
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inflation is bad because reddads get relegated from sometimes picking up 10 bucks to sometimes picking up a penny. this devalues fun immensely.
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>>554884812
>No
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>>554884708
>STILL no argument
o i am laffin
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>>554884904
>they're not actually playing the game because they don't meet my personal definition of the word
anon, just go get checked. if john dadgamer wants to play poop2 for an hour after work every day that's still playing the game, just way less of it. and with hyperinflation you get way less value out of shorter sessions like that. i don't like them or agree with them, but i can see the validity in their point.
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>>554884921
Even if it did, that would also apply to the 5% degen dot from pandemic. So either it works for both or neither, they counteract eachother
But keep in mind you can still get screwed over by map mods that prevent your life regen
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>hi, what are you guys arguing about?
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>>554885000
what argument would you accept against your superior argument of "who cares?"
i'll try: reddit dads care, and they're in the vast majority to people like yourself.
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>>554884939
Inflation means the items look more valuable at face value though, dumdum.
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ive inflated my dick in ur mums mouth last nite
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>>554885112
inflation means there is more of a certain monetary unit in circulation, and you need to pay more of that monetary unit for "goods"
most gamers don't acquire more of that monetary unit per play time though, so they get priced out.
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>>554885028
>ok no you see inflation is bad because random people on the forums have a feeling that it's bad
This is your argument?
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inflation is only bad if income doesnt keep up
and the only people who will ever actually afford truly inflated items are people who's income will always match or surpass the rate of inflation so therefore its not a problem.
people who can afford mirrors can afford mirrors, those who cant and were never going to.
its like being a wagie and crying that the price of super yachts is affected by inflation
you weren't in the market in the first place so it literally doesnt affect you.
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>Who cares! I get more tinks and tinks feel good!

>people are dumping the game because inflation feels bad? feels don't matter!
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>We're going to nerf things but we're not going to tell you what until a day before the event specifically to fuck with you tee hee
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>say who cares
>don't accept any engagement
is this how to win any internet argument easily?
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>>554885183
except most players "income" will not go up in proportion to the inflation, and it does become a problem. yes, it might not become a problem for you personally, but it becomes a problem for the vast majority of the playerbase.
it's not just the price of yachts going up, but also the price of milk and eggs.
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>>554885170
>most gamers don't acquire more of that monetary unit per play time though, so they get priced out.

They acquire exactly the same amount of purchasing power though because the monetary unit is more common, retard.
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>>554883024
I care. Now what? I have officially beaten your "argument".
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>>554885368
Divines a week ago were worth significantly more than they are today
You make the same amount of divines today as you did a week ago
Do you need help adding 1+1 together?
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>>554885336
>it's not just the price of yachts going up, but also the price of milk and eggs.
Why does this matter though if I'm earning more money? You're just confused because for some reason, you think the value of X NEEDS to be the number you remember
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>>554885028
>and with hyperinflation you get way less value out of shorter sessions like that.
that isn't really the case for poe2. in poe1 if you aren't running the meta farm you are left behind, in poe2 the more people that enter the meta farm the more value off-meta farms become.
runic splinters went from 0.5c week one to over 5c in mid january.
calamity fragments were less than a div, now they are 12d.
omen of sinistral annulmenl were 4d, now they are 65d.
gamer dads are making bank.
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>>554885368
that is not true, it is only more common in content they don't run. yes, it is by choice, and yes it is because they're a shitter, but tht doesn't make it any less true.
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>>554885418
>I care. Now what? I have officially beaten your "argument".
No because now you have to say why you care, dumb bitch
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>>554885431
>You make the same amount of divines today as you did a week ago
Except I'm not making the same amount of divines, I'm making significantly more. Did you forget why the inflation is happening in the first place retard? holy shit this is the thinking power of tradies
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>>554885531
Now you just shifted the goalpost. I accept this concession.
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So are the people who spam "tub" or whatnot just bad at videogames or something?
I had to take a day or two to adapt to the game, from how different it is to other ARPGs I've played for thousands of hours. But after that, everything so far has been enjoyable (except the honor-bullshit in the first trial, but thats fine since the 2nd trial is way more fun).
Why do schizos seething dominate this thread? Where are some other people actually playing the game and having fun?
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>>554885498
>that is not true, it is only more common in content they don't run.
Except everyone is running the temple, which is why the inflation is happening in the first place. You braindead retard. Tell me what content these people you invented are running?
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>>554885613
it happens because more and more people go into temple, not because the number of people stays the same and the amount you make in there goes up.
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>>554885613
You haven't even finished building your temple yet and you're praising inflation as a good thing?
I apologize, I was not aware exactly how retarded you were. I will stop confusing you with concepts you are clearly not equipped to understand
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>>554885661
Asking you to explain your answer isn't shifting the goalpost, downy
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>>554885801
i'll explain my answer once you explain your question. tit for tat, disingenuous retard.
you asked the question without context, i answer it without context.
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>>554885771
Nice one, keep walking it back retard. I thought they weren't making more?
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>>554885336
>except most players "income" will not go up in proportion to the inflation
and like i said those players were never really in the market for the affected items so who cares?
> but also the price of milk and eggs.
if YOU cant afford milk and eggs thats your problem
i used to bitch about the price of items keep going up and up
then i started to actually play the game efficiently(stopped playing meme builds, actually juiced my maps and most importantly played the fucking game instead of sitting idle pretending to play the game)
and suddenly my currency per hour went way up and i was actually able to outpace inflation and was able to afford the items i wanted.
and it made be realise that everyone who complains about inflation is literally just not actually trying hard enough.
but being told that sucks and makes you want to lash out with cope.
some people get lucky(crypto millionaires)
and some people worked hard and smart and became billionaires.
also stop posting here while you are actively playing.
league start means the end of me posting here.
its like saying you are "on that grindset" yet you doomscroll 8 hours a day.
4 when you wake up
another 4 when you get home.
the people beating inflation are working those extra 8 hours where you are asleep at the wheel.
>inb4 cringe
just say it takes you 4 weeks to get MB and move on.
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>>554885867
>you asked the question without context, i answer it without context.
No, learn to read the chain of replies before you respond like a moron to it
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>>554885925
>and like i said those players were never really in the market for the affected items so who cares?
that would be ok but those players don't stay where they were, in terms of purchasing power, they are actively losing purchasing power. saying that's a good thing is just shitting on about 80% of the playerbase, it's how you run poop2 in the ground even harder and faster than it already is.
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>>554885925
>and like i said those players were never really in the market for the affected items so who cares?
The affected items are literally anything that doesn't drop in the temple
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>>554885739
>it happens because more and more people go into temple
That's literally what I just said
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>>554885336
>except most players "income" will not go up in proportion to the inflation, and it does become a problem.
how? all out of temple currency items have risen in price, you could casually farm citadels with grand projects and make 100+ div an hour.
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>>554886004
I care because it makes me feel bad. Your move, anon.
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>>554886014
>saying that's a good thing is just shitting on about 80% of the playerbase
yeh
80% of the playerbase is shit and should be actively reminded of this fact every time they login.
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I didn't know /poeg/ was so bad at economics
No wonder you suck at this game
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>>554886102
so you'd prefer to play poop 2 with a playerbase reduced by 80%? that's a very short-sighted view, retard.
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>>554886102
That's why they don't log in
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>>554886019
you could afford it if you spent your time in maps instead of in /poeg/
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>>554886019
>go farm omens instead of doing temple
>whoah wtf how do I have omens now I thought I was supposed to buy them with divine orbs
lol
also you're implying that omens weren't vanishingly rare and unusable by most people in every previous league?
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cheap head hunter is good
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>>554886090
because the non-temple players will compete with the temple players. and the fact is that while you can easily make 100div an hour farming citadels, you make like 500 div per hour if you have a good temple. it's not even in the same realm.
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>>554885170
but the temple makes "goods", not fiat. it's not a money printer it's a printer of 80% of the items in the game.
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>>554886096
Why does it make you feel bad (you aren't smart enough to be able to answer this)
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>>554886195
>just go farm it yourself bro
/poeg/gers literally telling you to go play SSF because inflation is good for the economy
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>>554886180
the poo2 playerbase should be reduced by 100%
>>554886190
good.
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>>554886253
only to a degree. it immensely devalues finding a headhunter yourself.
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>>554886180
>>554886190
Going by that graph the game lost more than 80% of its player base before temple even existed. Why do you guys post evidence that weakens your own arguments? Are you dumb? Embarrassing.
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>>554886376
because we don't have 0.5 numbers yet, timetravelbro
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>>554886258
and the people who play the game for 15 hours a day will have more currency than the people who play for 3 hours a day.
it doesn't change the fact that casuals haven't been priced out of the economy, they are along for the ride because all the shit they can farm is worth way more than it was at the start of the league.
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>he just keeps shifting the goalpost
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>>554886323
>WTF??? I ACTUALLY HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME??!!?!?!
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>>554886434
>he just keeps shitting
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>>554886464
>have to play Poo2
revolting
I'd rather die
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>>554886424
you're a retarded dumbfuck. the issue isn't people playing 15 or 3 hours, the issue is that the 15 hour people have 100x the currency of the 3 hour shitters.
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>>554886412
Are you confused? We're talking about the last 4 leagues anon
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>>554886354
But the tinks bro, THE TINKS! Doesn't matter if it's worthless as long as our lord and savior neverstink made it tink!
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>>554886464
dishonest retard. playing ssf means playing all the parts of the game, not just the parts you enjoy. it's always a downgrade to my play experience.
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>>554886601
we are? I sure am not, are you?
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>>554886628
>it's worthless because I didn't find this rare item myself
lol sounds like your problem is actually with trading itself
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>inflation is good because nobody cares ok? nobody! need ing to spend more divines for a mirror than fit into your trade tab slot is NOT an issue! you're making it all up!
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>>554886523
>the issue is that the 15 hour people have 100x the currency of the 3 hour shitters.
why is that an issue, why does a person who play for 3 hours a day need stacks of mirrors?
they have great farms than shit out tons of currency proportional to their /played. ritual, abyss, expedition, breach, all casual farms that print currency.
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>>554886716
Yes, that's what's in the graph we are talking about anon
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>>554886805
We're not talking about stacks of mirrors, and we both know it. Why would i play a game for 3 hours when the 15 hour guy makes disproportionally more than me?
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>>554886747
No, it's worthless because of inflation
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>>554886785
>need ing to spend more divines for a mirror than fit into your trade tab slot is NOT an issue!

Is that really the issue though? It sounds pretty minor, you could fix that by increasing the stack size, very small and easy change.
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>>554886874
>Why would i play a game for 3 hours when the 15 hour guy makes disproportionally more than me?

Because you enjoy playing the game? Literally what are you talking about
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>>554886935
another goal post shift, bravo.
>it's not a problem
>ok it's a minor problem, but this bandaid could just fix it
what's next? you gonna say that the size of layouts is not a problem, and that sprint was a great fix for it?
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>>554886907
>No, it's worthless because of inflation
That's deflation my brown friend, inflation is when the price goes up. lol.
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>>554886874
>Why would i play a game for 3 hours when the 15 hour guy makes disproportionally more than me?
so you don't play any videogames?
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>>554887015
anon, i don't know about you, but my enjoyment comes partially from being what i would consider "competitive" with others, in proportional to time invested. if a blaster makes 1500 divines in 15 hours then i'd like to consider myself successful if i make +-10% 500 divines in 5 hours.
but that's currently not the case, so i don't get enjoyment out of it.
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>>554887023
So you admit it's a minor problem then? Come on anon, annoyingly having to move currency to buy a mirror isn't a problem to most people, especially not the person playing 3 hours a day.
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>>554887217
are you retarded? you just shifted from
>it's not a problem
to
>it's a minor problem
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>>554887175
>anon, i don't know about you, but my enjoyment comes partially from being what i would consider "competitive" with others, in proportional to time invested.

Lucky for you, putting more hours into the game does indeed reward you proportionately more than people who put less hours into the game. That's always been the case.
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>>554887257
And? You think this is some kind of gotcha? Minor problems don't require the kind of kvetching you're doing right now, do they? Anyone reading this will see you're overreacting
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>>554887414
retard
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>>554872026
wowww
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>>554887440
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO SOME STREAMER CAN'T FIT HIS DIVINES INTO THE INVENTORY I CAN'T HAVE FUN NOOOOOOOOOO
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Tripolar bear and subtractem never coming back are they
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>>554887175
>if a blaster makes 1500 divines in 15 hours
each one of these crafts are less than 2 divines and take a minute to make.
sub 100s are bricks.
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>post unverifiable claim
nice "crafts" anon, but i prefer killing monsters in my monster killing game.
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>>554887778
sure you do, as long as no one is killing them faster than you..
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>>554887846
i also make 500 divines per 5 divine craft, good job
the goys will never know
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>>554887101
I'll try to use fewer and simple words anon
>more headunter drop
>headhunter enter trade faster than sold
>headhunter worth less
This is called inflation
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>>554887015
Who enjoys running temples over and over and over?
Besides tink addicts I mean, those are too far gone. Neversink owns their souls
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>>554887916
isn't that just supply and demand?
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>>554888003
temples are unironically more fun to run than any kind of endless atlas mapping in poo2, and it's not even close. the layouts are good, concise and clear, and i don't need to waddle through huge empty stretches of nothing.
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>>554887916
>This is called inflation
No it's called deflation. I don't think you actually know what inflation means (hint: it doesn't mean thing = worth less)
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>>554888003
>Who enjoys running temples over and over and over?
Who the fuck enjoys running the rest of the end game content over and over? Especially more than temple? Fucking dumbass, temple is literally the only mechanic that provides some kind of end game progression
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>>554888102
Yes anon, inflation is caused by insufficient demand
>>554888137
Are you literally retarded? What do you think the difference is between a divine orb being worth less and a headhunter being worth less?
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>>554888137
not the guy, but your cluelessness is funny.
inflation means "blowing up", as in supply of a certain thing blows up.
on one hand currency can inflate, that means lots of currency is in the market for a low number of goods.
and on the other hand, the supply of headhunter belts can inflate, which means a lot of headhunters are on the market, for a low number of people wanting them. this lowers the price of goods.
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>>554888214
>nothing in the game is fun
then why do you play it?
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>>554888230
>What do you think the difference is between a divine orb being worth less and a headhunter being worth less?

If the headhunter price went up because of Divine being devalued, that's called inflation.

If the headhunter price goes down because it is becoming more common, that's called deflation.

Go read a fucking dictionary you retarded nigger
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>>554888343
You literally fail basic economics
I hope you don't vote
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>>554888320
This is what you should be asking the people complaining about temple
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>>554888410
he does vote, just not in the u s of a, if you catch my drift.
he voted for modi.
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>>554888249
>inflation means "blowing up", as in supply of a certain thing blows up.

Yes, it means whatever you want except the actual definition of the word.

>he supply of headhunter belts can inflate, which means a lot of headhunters are on the market, for a low number of people wanting them. this lowers the price of goods.

Holy shit I can't even
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>>554888410
Can you please read a dictionary before you embarrass yourself further, the definition of words doesn't follow vibes anon
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>>554888429
they're leaving.
this is somehow considered a good thing.
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>>554888653
Yes, we're 5 weeks into the league, this is normal for poe 2 thus far.
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>>554888740
ok, let me rephrase: they're leaving for good and not returning next league.
this is somehow considered a good thing.
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>>554860919
>>554860453
seconding herald of agony with the herald ascendancy. its very good
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>>554888783
Yes, this is normal for poe 2 thus far.
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>Can you please read a dictionary before you embarrass yourself further, the definition of words doesn't follow vibes anon
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>>554888597
When you have a headhunter, and you want to sell it, and it sells for scraps because the temple drops 2000 headhunters per hour across the whole server, then your headhunter is devalued due to inflation

Your monkey brain is stuck on the "divine = currency, headhunter = goods" rule. If you stop being retarded and understand that temple inflation devalues ALL items that can drop in the temple, and not just divines, your confusion will clear

Inflation is usually defined with a basis of money IRL because most people IRL don't sell goods, they sell services (employment) in exchange for money. That doesn't mean inflation doesn't apply to goods
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next thread better be a tub op
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>>554888908
>When you have a headhunter, and you want to sell it, and it sells for scraps because the temple drops 2000 headhunters per hour across the whole server, then your headhunter is devalued due to inflation

You even used the word "devalued" but you couldn't make the leap in logic, holy shit you should see a doctor

>Your monkey brain is stuck on the "divine = currency, headhunter = goods"

And here you stumbled onto the counter argument to your own retardation but instead of realising your stupidity you just leaned into it. Just please for the love of God (Vishnu in your case) read an English dictionary.
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>>554888908
clearly the solution is to add a headhunter sink. its healthy for the game to drop multiple headhunters per hour of 0 investment farming.
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>>554889161
>divine devalues
>it's inflation
>headhunter devalues
>it's not inflation
explain
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>>554889163
cute argument, but currency even inflated bigly last league when we had no temples.
headhunter didn't do this.
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>>554889161
>And here you stumbled onto the counter argument to your own retardation but instead of realising your stupidity you just leaned into it
I literally explained how you're wrong and you just double down on being wrong
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>>554888906
do more lily ones
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>>554889209
You literally said it yourself
>divine = currency, headhunter = goods
You're literally measuring the value of headhunter against the divine in your argument you insipid retard, lmfao
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>You're using the wrong word, I have banned you from this subreddit
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>>554888906
Look at him go!
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poo2 so bad I started playing wow in it's most unhyped and dead patch
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>>554889301
Wrong. A mirror right now costs 3x as much as it did at the end of abyss, while the league is still far from over. And mirrors drop in the temple, so they're also oversupplied this league, it's only resisting inflation because people actually consume mirrors (unlike divines)
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>>554889342
>I literally explained how you're wrong
Except that I'm not wrong, all you said was inane babble about divine not actually being a currency and headhunter not actually being goods, you're literally shitting your pants in front of a crowd right now, please stop
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>>554889616
nooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>554889657
larry is a man, deal with it
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>>554889570
>anon is confused and furious at seeing a word used in a slightly different context than he is familiar with
Poo2 introduced some of the most braindead mouthbreathers on the planet to the community, huh
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>>554889552
sooooooo you're saying that there is an adequate mirror sink and that keeps the price stable...? hmmm interesting...
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>>554889875
does that look stable to you?
I said there is a much bigger mirror sink than divine sink so mirrors are devaluing at a slower rate compared to divines
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I got off work today because of the ice storm where the FUCK are the Phrecia patch notes so I can theorycraft????
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>>554889827
>in a slightly different context than he is familiar with

That's a cute cope for just being flat out wrong. It's ok though, you're ESL, I understand. Go read a dictionary and learn what words mean before you make a fool of yourself.
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>>554889945
the unstable part in this equation isn't the mirror though, it's the divine.
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>>554889761
I will not
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why are 'people' here so obsessed with turning girls into guys
disgusting
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One garbage nigger mechanic spewing divines into the economy makes the game worse because it forces you to play a garbage nigger mechanic. Temple is just as bad as abyss tranny hoards or abyss spire farming in PoE 1.
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>>554889875
there are less mirror sinks due to the best items being corrupted or sanctified.
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>>554889981
It's both. Unfortunately there's no other reference to compare that might show more clearly the inflation rates between the two. Maybe you could look at the divine/mirror ratio and compare it to the divine/omen ratios or something. Idk I'm just shitposting about how awful the poo2 economy is
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>>554889948
phrecia starts next thursday, retard, they haven't even started writing the patchnotes
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>>554890093
temple might not be great, but it beats poo2 mapping by miles in terms of fun and feels.
really makes you think
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>Ben barely made content for PoE 2
>No video on Phrecia
>Last video a month ago
>Its on Diablo Immortal
THIS YOUR MANS POO1BABS??
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>>554890158
they haven't even starter making the patch
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>>554889301
not an argument, merely a jest about how ridiculously oversaturated the market for temple drops is due to absurd supply.
funnily enough the lack of a divine sink is the only reason the game is still somewhat playable for people who arent farming temple. imagine the economy if you could metacraft with divines kek. enjoy farming boss drop uniques little mappies
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>>554890308
>THIS YOUR MANS POO2BABS??
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>>554890540
>imagine the economy if you could metacraft with divines kek.
it would be like every poe1 league, it would be fucking awful.
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>>554890632
Imagine prices staying relatively stable over the league and not being forced to farm the same mechanic all day long to avoid falling behind and getting priced out of the economy
awful.
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>>554890789
sorry saar we need to be different from our old game because it's my youth sin!
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>>554890789
thats not really fair to be honest. mirror value is artificially stabilized by a fucking timer injecting mirrors into the economy.
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>>554890902
what are you saying?
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>>554890789
Imagine trading with something other than valueless currency. Couldn't be you
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>>554890902
retard
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>>554890789
>relatively stable
it increased in price over 700% in 40 days, and divines went from 83c on day one to over 200c by day 40.
and mirrors are way more common in poe1 thanks to div cards and mirror shards.
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>>554890959
I think he's saying that kingsmarch devalues mirrors so they don't go out of control
>>554890902
It's not just mirrors, it's that the value of divines does not collapse because the economy isn't designed by retards for retards
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>>554890959
kingsmarch shipping gives free mirror shards over time, even to players who already quit the league and arent adding any other items to the economy.
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patch notes doko...?
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>>554891252
i wouldn't go that far.
the economy that's inpoo2 was just never designed for endgame and beyond, they had only acts and acts content until like 2-3 months before EA launch. it's very apparent that no thought has gone into endgame design, economy longevity and so on.
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>>554891271
players who quit the league aren't adding mirrors to the economy either. Even if they log in to claim their mirrors they're not trading them
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>>554889948
>he thinks they are updating phrecia
unc?
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>>554891510
>zoomer didn't read the announcement post
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>>554891252
>29 is a 1218.2% increase from 2.2
but hold on, look at how it crashes back down after shooting up over 1000%. see how stable the economy is!!!!
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>>554891564
>using literally day 1 prices as reference
shit man even for falseflagging this is really weak bait
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>>554891560
jonnyb should (on god) start makin these announcements in shorts and reels and tiktoks for the zoomzoom and alphaudience
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>>554891284
shut up and get back in my bed
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>>554891364
even if you think that, the point still stands. for the first 2 weeks or so, kingsmarch doesnt generate any mirrors and the price goes up. then it flattens because kingsmarch mirror shards start entering the economy.
https://poe-antiquary.xyz/Necropolis/Currency/Mirror%20of%20Kalandra/22
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>>554891668
>the economy was stable for a few days a month into the league before it collapsed!
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>>554887510
Whiteboy asses look like THAT!?
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>>554891880
Necropolis was a pretty heavy inflation league too, but regardless:
>250 to 1250 divs over the whole league
Meanwhile, >>554884580
>200 to 7500 and league isn't even over yet
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>>554892234
excuse me, 7000 not 7500. I wouldn't want to do injustice to the poo2 economy by giving wrong numbers
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poe2 divine orbs just arent good. why is everyone obsessed with them?
poe2 not having a single universal and always good currency is healthy for the game because it means that a single mechanic printing that currency doesnt rape the entire game.
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>>554892679
poo2 players are too retarded to select a stable reference currency themselves so they just copied poo1 and use divines as the default currency even though it makes no sense
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>>554892751
it's the third rarest basic currency item, it makes plenty of sense for it to be the standard unit.
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>>554891560
>read
why bother? the only useful information is in the header?
>phrecia back from x to y date.
why would anyone read on?
>wanting phrecia to be patched
it was perfect
>but
cry about it.
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>>554892995
rarity is not sufficient enough quality to consider something a good currency candidate, especially if every candidate has an innate use-value.
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>>554893089
shoulda taken the 2 minutes to read it, now you're just an uninformed shmuck trying to save face
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Decided to try NRFTW out since it's been spammed so much but legitimately I've been lost in the sauce, I only just came up for air after like 12 hours nonstop.

This is the game Jonathan wishes he made, and I wish he made. I fucking hate the graphics/look of this game but it's definitively the best ARPG out there. Even just the movement is leagues ahead, being able to fully control your character and climb over fucking anything and never get stuck on anything is massive.
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>>554893150
>rarity is not sufficient enough quality to consider something a good currency candidate
Then explain why gold is used as currency
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>>554893150
well in poe1, rarer currencies are actually useable.
in poo2, not so much.
and the useable currencies are too common to be used as realistic trade currency.
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>>554892995
>it's the third rarest basic currency item
its not
>it makes plenty of sense for it to be the standard unit
it doesnt

annuls are rarer than divines. would you use them as the universal currency? probably not
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>>554893321
>I fucking hate the graphics/look of this game
Why? It's one of the most unique and cool looking games ever made.
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>>554893326
Because it's shiny and people would rather wear it than trade it, while also being rare enough that it's not at risk of inflation
Also gold hasn't been used as currency in decades because America wants to take the entire global economy with them
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>>554891736
jahoders built for clankers, anon
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>>554893471
because it's grotesque humans, way too much bloom and I just prefer realistic graphics.

This reminds me of Dishonored which I also hated the artstyle of.
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>>554893489
Wrong, gold is used because it's rare and because it lasts forever. Just like Divines.
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>>554893602
if gold is so great then why did China only trade in silver?
checkmate, gweilo
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>>554893602
wrong, gold isnt used.
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gold also has special attributes only gold has (see gold used for industrial application)
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>>554893365
what % of poe1 players do you think know how to craft this helm? and removing rng, how many divine orbs are used in the craft?
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>>554893814
i made this (slightly weaker) a couple times, you use a lot of divines, a couple hundred at least, just for the suffixes if you want them double elevated. and i mean that in suffix locks, not in worth of materials.
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>>554893814
lmao retard, the one you posted is a straight up brick
just admit you don't play poe1
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>>554893894
removing rng how many divine orbs are used in the craft? we will pretend that matrons don't exist.
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what idol strat do I need for gold farming
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>>554893814
>roll influenced blue helm for 1 mod
>roll sacrifice helm of the other influence for a second mod
(elevate mods here if they can be elevated, idk)
>beastlock helm and hit third mod with awakener's orb
>beast meta affix lock the other set of affixes
>reroll harvest until you get 2 useful mods
>craft last mod

how did I do? I suck at crafting
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>>554894067
depends on how good you make it (t1/t2/t3), but just the suffixes i'd say 300 if you make the top notch version.
prefixes use no divines, because you can use beasts, but the prefixes use a lot of exalts, funny enough.
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they should return to exalts or maybe perfect exalts as the main big currency commodity at this point since divines are virtually useless
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>>554894119
you don't make the helmet that way because one of those suffixes is an essence mod.
you start with the double influenced base, and you use horror essences until you get your hypothermia and an empty suffix.
then you use "suffixes cannot be changed" bench craft and reforge crit, trying to hit flat spell crit (the one anon posted is flat attack crit lol)
then you can do elevation with maven orbs if you're spicy.
if not, the suffixes are done.
then you do bristle matron / suffixes can't change and slam exalts/scour until you hit your prefixes.
then you craft or veiled exalt the +1/+2 AoE gems.
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>>554893365
one of the core design choices of poe2 is the lack of universal currencies. the currencies are useable but only in specific circumstances, which requires the use of multiple other basic currencies and league currencies like omens.
you need a fixed amount of every crafting currency which means that if the supply of one currency suddenly skyrockets, the demand stays the same and as a result the currency gets devalued.
poe1 on the other hand lets you exchange one currency for another or use one currency instead of another. map rolling for more currency allows you to effectively convert chaos to divines for example. you could see this nicely when 8mod corrupted t16.5s were the meta and chaos got devalued like crazy, until they bugfixed 8mod t16.5s and chaos:div went back down.

i think ultimately the poe1 approach is much better because in a trade game, you really do need a universal currency that has a stable value. yet another instance of not learning anything from poe1.
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>>554894403
oh that sucks, I wouldn't even attempt that
I'm more than willing to pay a 50-100d premium for the final item if it means not sitting on my hideout spamming currency for an hour like a retard
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>>554894181
How does one come up with such retarded ideas
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>>554894541
>i think ultimately the poe1 approach is much better because in a trade game, you really do need a universal currency that has a stable value.

why
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>>554894553
the helmet with good tiers is way beyond 100 divines, anon
also, you'll be standing in your menagerie in the 2nd part of the craft, not hideout
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>>554894673
because it's not fun to sit in your hideout, thinking about what currency you wanna sell a specific drop for when the main objective of the game is blasting monsters.
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>>554894687
I said 100d premium, anon. I mean whatever this craft would cost on average + 100d just for the service of having someone else craft it for me
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currency in poo2 is the way it is because they never even wasted a thought about endgame ramifications for their designs until 2 or so months befure EA launch. it's an unfinished design and their bandaids (greater/perfect orbs) aren't exactly a fix to the issues.
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>>554894673
because having to cross-reference half a dozen exchange rates to figure out the worth of an item you want to buy/sell is cringe
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>>554894673
for the same reason that fiat currencies are used in real life. its convenient.
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>wants to play in a trade league
>wants dumbed down trade dynamics because his brain cannot comprehend more than one standard tender existing at the same time
lol
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>>554894879
and somehow it's still better than poop1
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>>554894779
Is this what you do in poe 2
because everyone else just uses divines
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>>554894954
now that's a cope if i've ever heard one
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>>554894879
greater + perfect currencies were added as a bandaid fix to solve the issue of needing to slam literal thousands of bases. now you only need to slam like a hundred.
haired fucking retard does not want scouring in his game
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>>554894912
You know fiat currencies are not a universal currency and they are traded in exactly the same way that poe 2 currencies are traded right
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>>554895025
retard
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>>554895025
yeah everyone holds their currency in divines and then complains about inflation kek
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>>554894879
chris complained for years about how fucked the currency farm in poe1 was because in most cases it made more sense to farm shit like heist for delve currency.
mechanic specific currency in poe2 is still valuable because it isn't dropping all over the game.
if the temple had abyss and ritual rooms you would be here crying that the temple devalued mechanic specific currency.
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>>554895253
is that why you get drowned in soul cores in the temple?
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>>554895138
they are universal currencies in the country you live in unless youre a third world monkeynigger and get paid in some clown currency that you have to convert to usd
thats not you, right?
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>>554895095
they should add Gold II and III
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>>554895323
you mean the vaal temple drops vaal currency?
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>>554895173
>needing to convert currencies and "hold in specific assets" in a game about monster killing
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>now that's a cope if i've ever heard one
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>>554895346
This may surprise you but your government and many other businesses in your country are constantly trading foreign currencies. You understand this right?
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>>554895415
the vaal temple drops currency specific to the act 3 trial, not sure why you are trying to goalpost change
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>>554895253
The only reason poe1 is fucked in this regard is because they bald all the mechanics
Delve drops fuck-all for fossils so no shit it's better to do expedition/heist/etc. for it, maybe if delve wasn't so stingy it would make more sense to do it for them
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>>554895445
thats what im saying. its not good.
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the thing is maps were always the main selling point for poe's endgame. its what they always worked on and its what they advertise. with temple being 100x more efficient in terms of xp and loot, and this number isn't even exaggerated, I don't see how it makes sense to ever touch a single map outside of grinding up temple rooms. It needs to be its own thing just like delve but it should never ever compete with the atlas. I would unironically rather not play poe at all then having to deal with the temple. Same goes for cancer like sanctum, tota, delve, heist, betrayal. Just let me do alch and go maps.
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>>554893256
>uninformed
no im not
i know whats happening and when
and how long its happening for
>but changes to phrecia lea-
not my problem.
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>>554893572
I'll clank her hard np
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>>554895619
uninformed faggot
you don't know what's happening, now do you?
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>>554895546
ok and?
i get paid in a universal currency
i use this universal currency to pay for everything
i dont get paid in codemonkey coin which i need to convert to grocerycoin and omens of housing
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>>554895701
but i don't trade in foreign currency, i trade in my local currency only.
why would i suddenly start going full forex?
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>>554895553
do you think omen of light would be the price it is right now if the temple had an abyss room?
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>>554895637
go to bed, ineffa
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itt: diablo refugees undermining one of the fundamental path of exile design principles by asking for a standardized, dedicated, trading currency
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>trading in 7 different currencies is good
>i have attached a photo of myself
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>>554895867
>bringing up a random different example
i never said you are wrong, i simply said that temple already does the thing you said it shouldn't do with chaos trial content
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>>554895701
>i get paid in a universal currency
It's not universal and people who actually engage in trade understand this
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not playing SSF is a mistake
imagine having to care about some virtual economy
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who cares about trading in different currencies
just use the currency exchange
it's not fucking hard
holy SHIT
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>>554896112
it is universal to the geographic region you live in. no store's gonna take some random other country's currency over your local one
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>>554896218
>it is universal to the geographic region you live in

No, that's not what universal means. I can buy foreign currency anywhere in the world.
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>>554896059
it drops basic soul cores, not endgame soul cores.
it's not random currency from other mechanics and it's not the best place to even get them.
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>>554896218
every thirdie will gladly take USD over their own shit currency
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>>554895701
>>554896218
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Phrecia patchnotes when?
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>>554896112
you almost understand
99.9% of people dont care about foreign currencies
thats how it is in poe1, most people just have their shit in divines and chaos as they get them
there are foreign currencies that you can speculate on which some people do
but you dont have to figure out what to store your wealth in when you log off for the day because your divines wont randomly lose 20%+ of their value overnight
you dont have to convert shit back and forth

same thing irl unless you are a thirdie
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>>554896305
you really gonna pretend you can just use mexican pesos to buy bread in china? come on bro, just think a little
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>>554896596
next week
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Is poe2 fun yet? I tried coming back with the amazon league and the one after that but got bored and quit before hitting maps. The campaign felt too long and I was using the same skills to clear the campaign.
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>>554896502
>The shooting of the policeman has received universal condemnation.
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>>554896483
you're 20 years too late
the US is now officially shit in the eyes of the world
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>>554896621
>99.9% of people dont care about foreign currencies
That's wrong. The value of your own "universal" currency is based entirely on the value of other "universal" currencies.

If you want to trade in one currency only, that's perfectly fine, you can do that in poe 2. Nothing is stopping you from living in your own little "universal" bubble.
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>>554896502
>uh actually carbon isnt a universal element of life because there could be aliens which are silicon based
thanks for the useful contribution
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>>554896596
it's SATURDAY EXILE
LET THE DEVS SPEND SOME TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES FOR HINEKORA'S SAKE!!
THEY COOKED SO MUCH FOR YOU AND YOU ASK FOR MORE???
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>>554896502
universal can also be localized, retard
>>554896654
no, and it will never be. if it is ever fun for short periods of time, that's purely by accident.
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>>554896871
>If you want to trade in one currency only, that's perfectly fine, you can do that in poe 2. Nothing is stopping you from living in your own little "universal" bubble.
have you not paid attention to this poe2 league?
do you even play poe?
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>universal can also be localized, retard
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>>554896871
t. thirdie shitter
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>>554895674
>know what's happening
phrecia January 29th-February 19th
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how do you do this crafting project thing on poedb
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>>554897074
You clearly don't know if or if not there will be changes, so you are off even worse: you know only half the truth.
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I think we should trade all currencies in USD
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>>554897124
retard
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>>554897124
just use craftofexile
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yeah i get paid in rupees and convert them to us dollars, im a trader
im an economist
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>>554897243
yes?
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t r v k e
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>>554897213
sounds like a lying RMT-er
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>>554897390
rmting in his own private league would be pretty HARD
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>>554897346
the poo2 skill system is such a massive fucking downgrade. Yeah sockets on items has flaws but also has so much flexibility, this wasn't a good trade
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>>554897213
>46d for an omen of light
how?
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>>554897213
this is the kind of shitter that gets access to the devs...
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>>554897142
it doesnt matter if there are changes
it wont affect me so i dont need to know about them
i never read the bugfixes of patch notes anyway
and it has never affected me
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>>554897568
>you can't cut extra copies of a skill you have already equiped for gemcutting
>you can't cut gems you couldn't use
lmao
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for poo2? it's over.
it's over for poo2
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poover
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>>554897608
HARD as fuck post
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>>554897608
so you're an uninformed shitter, got it.
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>>554897794
you cant do it can you.
you dont have the willpower to not read the notes.
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>>554897582
do you spend all day making AI slop poo videos
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>>554897947
i am not retarded enough to skip notes
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>>554897984
no, i make 2-3 every couple of days and have now got a big library of them i can just post whenever it fits.
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>>554897568
The gem system was the biggest normie filter and I'm glad it's gone. I like gold too.
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>>554898126
Post them on sharty not here faggot
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>>554898841
normie alert
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>>554898932
deal with it tranny
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>>554898841
The new system isn't any more intuitive. Better tutorials would be sufficient
Anyone who cant follow a basic turorial has no chance in PoE anyways
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>>554897686
you can do both of those things
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>>554899049
He never denies it.
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>>554899051
>DoTs are too confusing for new players
>Also, in PoE2 we're introducing this new nested tooltip system to explain all the convoluted mechanics we have
>We're going to gut every DoT and remove all complexity from them instead of using the tooltips to explain how they worked.
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>>554899137
no you can't. you gotta have the attributes to use a gem to cut it, or it won't work.
if i have a gem already equipped i can't cut a second copy of it for corruption
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>>554899051
My only season poe1 was about 450 hours on 3 characters. I do think the gear system is very rewarding and part of what makes the game feel so good when you get a build going. But it can be such a bitch to sit down for 2 hours and try to match every color and forget about some sttat on a gear piece and now you have to redo it all; it's very punishing.
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>>554899441
really?
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>>554899441
There's a child lock setting you have to turn off anon. You can cut whatever gems you like.
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>>554899441
theres a setting for it. god knows why. i guess jonathan really thought his new audience would be so retarded they cut the same gem twice by accident and then ragequit the game and leave a negative review and refund it.
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>>554899579
>i guess jonathan really thought his new audience would be so retarded they
it is
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>>554899579
that guy is the reason the setting exists.
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>>554899323
what is there to deny?
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>>554899539
>>554899579
>>554899756
that button did not exist in 0.1
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>>554899924
It did.
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>>554899924
It literally did
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>>554901378
Prove it.
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>>554901479
just did what do you want from me?
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>>554901895
retard
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If the storm knocks out your Internet this weekend watcha playan /poeg/?
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>>554902120
I own a modded ps2 and snes and a huge ass bock log of retro shit I want to play.
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>>554902120
Russian roulette on SSF
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>>554902348
how do you get no internet how do you play ssf
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Tytrvke…
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>>554903119
why is he such a faggot? what is it about speedrunning and trooning out?
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>>554903167
wtf, don't tell me it's real
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>>554903515
https://www.twitch.tv/tytykiller

you tell me
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>>554903167
homo niggas
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>>554903574
DO NOT CLICK ON THAT LINK ON A FRIDAY
DONT
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CARN???????????
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>>554903739
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>>554903992
so this is what happens when you play poe1 too long without getting a wife...almost happened to steelmage too...
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>>554903992
he means this
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>>554904162
How the hell did that brown 5’4 midget pull a white wife like that im so confused by steelmage
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>>554904306
nigga got a 12" cock
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>>554904306
hes rich
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>>554904306
it's not hard you dumb incel
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>>554904358
Legit the only explanation
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>>554904306
he just was himself
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>>554904627
prove it
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>>554904306
steelmage is brown?
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Patch notes when..?
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>>554905782
have you seen him?
he's half indonesian half human.
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>>554905782
living in 2026 as a blind person must suck
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>>554906071
Thats a wild thing to say… are you implying Indinesians arent human?
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all of you are white
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for poopy stinky 2?
they're telling me it's over for poopy 2
I believe it's over. I believe it's over for poopy 2.
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>half
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Just started playing, does poe2 not have spell suppress?
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>>554906482
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>want to keep playing
>lvl 95
>defeated arbiter and uber arbiter, fully juiced t16s, not much i can do to upgrade my build
guess i'll check out the NRFTW free weekend
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>>554906840
>he has no sweat temple
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>>554906879
temple is about the most boring shit in the game
abyss > breach > delirium > ritual > expedition >> temple
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good lord phrecia can't start soon enough.
this thread is complete garabage:
-literal shit posting
-tranny posting
-poo2 fucking losers nearly 3 months in
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>>554907434
anything in poo2 is better than that mapping system, including campaign
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>>554907497
poo2 league has been going for 1 month and 1 or 2 weeks.
feels like forever innit?
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>>554907497
Nothing changes btw but you'll just get shitposts but Phrecia flavoured.
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>>554907771
poo1 is good shit
poo2 is shit
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>>554908332
poo1 is just as tubbed as poo2
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>>554908450
no, its walled
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>>554908579
Keyed
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Godathan won
Poe1 is poorfag aka brown (for that is the colour of their skin) coded
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>>554909218
trvke
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everyone has access to devs, you lying freak, its just that they would discard your "valuable input" because it has no value to them unlike your redditor brethren.
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People are corrupting ventor's gamble and selling them for mirrors now
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>>554906482
they rebranded it as deflection
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>>554910108
Its called negative rarity farming and was a thing last league too
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>>554910534
negative rarity rings were selling for mirrors last league as well?
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>>554910108
why
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>3 1/2 years into the league and neggros still arguing about the state of the economy
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>>554911069
Probably not because there were fewer mirrors around
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>read everywhere how good entangle + thunderstorm is
>do a leaguestart test
>it's actually feels worse than edc
well, i guess i'm not starting that in 0.5
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>>554910108
tfw ventor i sold for 20 div 5 days ago would go for 1000 now (not that i need it anyway, but lol)
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>>554911695
>testing starters before patchnotes
lmao
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>>554911695
>leaguestart build needs a level 62 support gem to werk
poe1 might be more your speed. They even have free mystery boxes for retards
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>level 62 required support gems are a thing
poo2 ladies and gents
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>>554910108
>now
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>>554912221
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Awakened_support_gem
In poo1 lvl 72 req gems are a thing
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>>554912462
now that's a disingenuous thing to say. all awakened gems are just a version of a non-awakened gem that you can wear as early as level 38
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>>554912020
It's about knowing options beforehand, the fact that they may get pruned does not matter
>>554912095
Huh?
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>>554912462
>Awakened gems
Should we start claiming tier 2 gems are a must for builds and PoE2 is shit for locking them so far away?
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>>554912565
ok so exactly the same as lineage thanks for agreeing
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>>554912565
And all lineage support gems are versions of non-lineage gems
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The more I think about it, the more I get turned off by the three week time limit and how close it is to the next league. Might just make getting to 90 my only goal and meme my shit up with Behemoth.
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>>554913141
>you can't even level your old level I to level II
that system is such a monument to the failore of making a good game.
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How fucking long is the poe2 campaign going to be when they finally get everything finished
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>>554913202
>>554913209
cool, can you please show me the gem you were referring to, and the non-lineage versions? thanks honey.
spoiler: they won't even remotely do the same thing and only have a tag to guardrail you
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>>554913310
I imagine they're gonna do the same thing they did in 1 and start trimming down and cutting out act areas over time. Act 2&3 used to be almost as much of a fucking slog as they are now in 2.
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>>554913381
lineage supports LITERALLY SAY ON THE GEM what they are an upgrade of
retard
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>bad faith poo2babs trying to AKSHUALLY their way through life
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>>554913381
>they won't even remotely do the same thing
You mean like how awakened elemental damage with attacks gives you ele reflect immunity?
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phrecia is just gonna be mana stack abusing
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>>554913567
yeah but they add way more functionality than awakened gems do, and it's not even close. of course you know this, and are just conveniently ignoring that fact.
>>554913585
OH NO THAT'S A BUILD-ENABLING BONUS YOU GOT ME SO GOOD
retard.

show me the base version for attached gem, retards. your dishonest way of arguing is so sad, but you both already know that.
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>>554913757
Dex stacking is gonna be expensive as shit, since 2/3 ranger ascendancies want you to do it and you still have the dex = cast speed graft mod
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>UUUUH YOU SEE THIS ONE GEM HAS NO BASE VERSION BUT UUUUH A BUNCH OF OTHERS DO SO POO2 GOOD
man i hate those motherfucking retards so much
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>>554913890
the base support isnt in the game yet because the poison attack class isnt in the game yet retardo
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>>554913534
it's crazy how perfect poe2 act 1 is and then it just gets progressively worse as you trudge through act 2 and 3
act 4 is solid except for the fucking insufferable retard nigger boss that yaps incessantly through every phase of his fight
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>>554914192
so we're now gonna pretend that pathfinder isn't one of the designated poison classes?
i actually wonder if you're this retarded by default or if you're just pretending.
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>>554914192
Dont bother arguing with a low IQ poo 1 mongrel. He didnt even think about awakened support gems when he made his retarded post and is trying to save face now
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>phrecia ascendancies are all shit
>all good skills got nerfed (or even killed) in between the first event and now
It's gonna be zhp wander shitfest all over again, isn't it? What else do you even play? Slams for the 9999th time?
I thought of going hroc/praw, but no chaos conversion and no recovery is gonna feel so bad
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>>554914192
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>>554910108
>selling them for mirrors now
which ones
negative rarity?
positive rarity?
both?
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>>554914489
glass cannons wont exist. maps are going to be unironically harder than gauntlet, if you go the zhp route you'll get hard walled
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>>554914406
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poo2babs getting owned by gemposter
truly a sight to behold
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>expensive
>in the game where everyone rmts
>in the game where you can buy hundreds of divines for 1 buck
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>>554913381
you literally lost poo1 sissy
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>>554915498
>just pay money for the stuff you're supposed to farm
>suddenly you have nothing to farm for
>stop playing
great gameplay loop, retard
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>>554915590
I play on SSF thoughbeitdesu
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>>554915560
still have not seen one base version of the gems i posted, i cankeep going for a good while
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>>554915809
melty melty sissy poo1 melty!!!!!!!!!
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would it be funny if i were to post all awakened gems in the next thread? or not worth it
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>>554915880
uh-huh, for sure man
you trying to will it into existence?
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>>554915974
doesnt sound very funny
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>>554916041
yeah and it would take me around 2 hours
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>>go for it, but every awakened gem has a base version that works just the same, just slightly worse.
the point is that poo2 has gems you only get to use at level 65 that have no alternative or base version
i'd say posting them wouldn't prove anything, except that poe1 is better designed in yet another area
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I RMT in my SSF runs by paying with my time on this God given Earth.
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>>554916279
uhm
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Pohx

PoE1 B-day Stream - Phrecia Life Stack Bog Shaman RF Theory Craft
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poo2rists lost
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>>554917258
NOOOOO MY FOULBORN RATHPITH PRICES
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>>554917708
It's always going to be expensive, get real.
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>>554918172
playing with his dick, duh
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>>554917708
The dot version is 60 div in regular keepers right now its already giga expensive
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>>554918505
>60 div
>giga expensive
how much of a shitter are you?
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>>554917708
They were 35 divvies starting in a wandnigger meta and now Lance, Pohx, Jungroan, and Ruetoo all have Bogdanov builds cooking in a 20 day league where no one is going to touch tree after they get a 6L and a few gear pieces. Everyone should just forget about FB Rathpith for Phrecia. Bownigger and wandnigger have so many good options with Phrecia ascendancies that they can't all be tubbed by patch notes. Just take the easy road.

>b-b-b-but I need survivability for...
No, you don't. Tubgun is baiting you so you don't compete for his gear. You don't need anything but more damage.
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>>554918584
Just because something isnt a mirror doesnt mean it isnt expensive. Planning a league starter around FB rathpith is retarded
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nice theyre saving all the nerfs for next week so people have less time to sperg about them
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>Kill Atziri for the first time
>Die at the same time
>Can't get back in the final room to grab the medal, quest not finished
>Boss dead, temple done
>Destabilization wipes out the access chamber, shoves the architect off into a corner and slims my temple down to almost nothing
30 fucking years of video games and dogshit game devs STILL stumble into making mutual kills on bosses the worst possible outcome by far, fucking how are we still here
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>>554919412
shellshocked niGGGers
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>>554919473
>i died
>but i still want the loot
What?
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>>554919721
>>554919721
>>554919721
new tub
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>>554919619
So let me restart the boss fight, I think I got it down
>No you can't you already won
Huh
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>>554919619
nta but the boss died too. If he didn't beat the boss then don't fuck his temple
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>>554919408
its not actually that rare, just everyone playing is either not doing breach, or gambling for belts only.
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>>554918584
>leaguestarter
>60 div item (in a stable league)
Yea....you lost this round bud, pretty badly too. Regroup and try again you might get him on something
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poo x2
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>>554919473
mutual kill is the same as dying in this case, the temple resets after the attempt win or lose.
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>>554920985
No if you die the temple gets emptied out like an atlas map but you can reattempt the boss as many times as you like.

If you die at the same time as you kill the boss when you respawn and run over to the chamber Doryani is collapsing the mirrior so you can't get in, you have to just leave empty handed and the temple destabilizes.
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>>554921362
oh i missed that update. i got plapped by architect early on and it ended my run.
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this general needs more lily posts



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