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Where did it go wrong?

Alright, what's Gucci sperging out about this time?

>>555081149
he got mindfucked by 'cordGODs so badly, he been spamming the thread for 2 days straight

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Automaton fighter jet soon

>>555082091
This is the most kitbashed child-like fan shit I've ever seen and you'd be an idiot to fall for it. The nose of the jet is literally the gunship's nose stretched like a cartoon.

Stratagem Idea: Eagle Reconnaissance
Gameplay: Stealth / Infiltration / Information

Key Features:
-150m radius / 30 second duration / 2 uses per base rearm
-No other Eagle stratagems can be used during the duration
-Reveals all enemies (Map, temporary)
-Highlights large+ enemies such as Hulks, Chargers, Factory Striders, Harvesters (Tag, temporary)
-Reveals Optional Objectives such as the SEAF Artillery or Radar Station (Map, permanent)
-Reveals the location of Objectives with randomly generated locations within a vicinity such as the Geological Survey, Black Box or Keycards (Map, permanent)
-Reveals Minor Places of Interest (Map, permanent)
-Counters the Poor Intel operation modifier

I hope the camera gets worked into a normal mission I like the idea of getting war footage for propaganda à la starship troopers, honestly liked the commando missions more than I thought I would

I, for one, am glad the commando missions will never be available again after this event is over.

>>555089713
It's made by a leaktranny called "Irish" on the discord leak server "holotable" They make fake bullshit to mess with people outside of their clique on the server

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This one is a true, real, 100% accurate and trustworthy leak straight from Arrowhead HQ.

>>555094115
Whoa, we'll be able to dual wield the censor? Awesome.

So commando missions being kino prove nerftrannies right?

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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241787241122/76561199586955078
whatevs

>>555097769
2/4

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Are gunships not working at the moment? My whole squad (2 not using stealth armor) just r an up to a gunship fab and none spawned.

I've also played a few missions with the gunship patrol modifier and it hasn't spawned any.

>>555099608
They've been broken since multiple patches. No it will not get fixed because AH only reads a glazing bootlicker subreddit that denies bugs and takes down any posts reporting bugs.

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Hey, i know there's a couple based players in this general
Is there a guide on how to spawn supercredits\medals? I would appreciate that

>>555056120
I use it a lot with chainsaw build to set it up. Im gonna say something cursed but its better bushwhacker by a wide margin, and it can replace stun grenades in your kit if you like using them to stun a single enemy.

I use the fuck outta them on bots and it's probably my best oh fuck option to equip.
Frankly I'm surprised people hate it and I look forward to it getting buffed

>>555097634
Naw because you can cheese them by solo running a bunch. Theyre hard

>>555082091
Wonder if they use this model to test shit

>>555093687
I just realized I got kicked from the discord again lol

>Unlock pineapple grenades
Holy shit these things are cool
>2/3 to start
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

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>>555097634
>made the player weak again
>have to avoid patrols again
>brought back ammo economy
>even brought back the running meta
>essentially a return to the original vision
>this is being praised as one of the best updates the game received
I am vindicated. Buffniggers forever BTFO

>>555097634
nah, your primary and secondary are actually good unlike back in the day and something like C4 wouldn't be able to oneshot heavies or blow up fabs if it had been around before the 60 day patch

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Threadly reminder if you don't bring the Quasar cannon and supply pack to commando missions, you are not pulling your weight.

>>555114930
>Needing the quasar crutch

>>555118470
>being such a attention whore he deliberately gimping himself out of maximum efficiency loadout for a tiny chance of being recognized as the "good player" by random strangers in video games.
truly a sad existence, imagine needing validation this badly

>>555114930
just bring the epoch if you're gonna bring a supply pack anyway
QC has zero synergy with the supply pack

Arc Thrower on D9. What nao?

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Two of those team deaths were mine. I've had some of the sauce. It'll be alright.

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>most enemies can kill you in two hits even with heavy armor
>if they don't do that then they have like a 1/10 chance of breaking your legs or arms
>anything above a trashmob takes half of a magazine to take down
>all enemies outnumber you in literal hordes-to-one
>enemies can track you down, without ever having seen you or knowing you're on the planet
>virtually no balancing for solo players
>unreasonable micro-purchase prices and long grinds
>vast majority of tools/weapons/armors in each Warbond are virtually useless
>if you find any of this unbalanced or unreasonable then you're a basedboy redditor
The "git gud" meme has done damage to the gaming community and game development teams. Autistismos unironically believe that difficulty and balance in a game cannot be criticized and all fault lies on the player.

And to not be totally negative: This has been a refreshingly nice community. Outside of isolated incidents, players have majoritively been polite, skilled, and thoughtful Helldivers to fight alongside. And this game has some of the funniest friendly fire I've ever seen. Seriously on par with my Earth Defense Force days.

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So let me get this straight
>Stealth warbond has a lure mine
>Ideally this can take care enemies that are in the way or patrols that are coming directly your way
>In reality as soon as you throw a lure, the enemy gets aggressive immediately
>Heavies like shield devs and hulks will stand still and just shoot at it
>They see you throw the lure? Detected
>You're too close to the lire? Detected and they completely ignore the lure
>The lure explodes? Everything within a large radius instantly knows where you're at, even if you're hidden
>Enemies barely even pay attention to it in combat so you can't even use it to get the heat off yourself
This is the worst fucking thing in the warbond. Is this just a host problem or does this piece of shit perform the same when you're not the host?

C4 bugs out when you reach the charge limit and doesn't let you throw a single one after even if you detonate the placed ones. Very cool AH

Commando is just brapdiver propaganda

>it's an invisible, unkillable Voteless stalking you the whole mission episode

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so far i have:
verified files
disabled mods
deleted shader cache and whole appdata folder
deleted nvidia shader cache
deleted steam shader cache
ran dism and sfc
removed drivers with ddu and reinstalled latest
reinstalled vcredist
rolled back to 528.49
rebooted countless times
neither drektide nor hd2 launch.

i fucking Violently Abhor the shiteating spiritual pajeet that is your average sw*de cocksucker. Holy Fuck.

>>555139282
works on my machine

>>555139282
skill issue
fuck swiggers

>>555139772
>skill issue
surely you can back up your claim and point out what i missed?

Bump i guess

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>tell the players as they join that we're doing stealth
>they drop in
>as soon as they see an enemy they open fire
I go trough about 10 different people every mission from kicking
I dont even feel bad anymore
No you're not bringing a walker into a commando mission
No you're not bringing turrets into a commando mission
You can bring a laser to clean up a base tho

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>>555131135
>virtually no balancing for solo players
why should there be? its a team game, if you want to take the missions on solo, unironically get good. And no you wont be able to clear the map solo unless you're actually good at the game

>>555108809
Use frag nades instead, same role, 6 of them, lots more effective.

>teammate drops his jump pack for me so I can infiltrate bot outpost from behind
Stealth is sovl, I'm afraid

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>>555147305
>Why should there be?
Because the devs want to sell more copies?
Because over 50% of gamers on average prefer singleplayer?
Because the devs specifically created a solo mode option in the game?
Because there's virtually no reason not to and every reason to?
>unironically get good
I'm not arguing that it should be easier by any means. But straight up unwinnable battles and RNG mechanics which I have no control over are simply poor design. We're talking about enemies that spawn in numbers faster than you can physically eliminate them. The ones that teleport to catch up to the player, making jetpacks or teleporter packs useless. Heavily armored bullet sponges randomly out in the open so you might randomly drop onto one and die before you can call down a weapon to deal with it. If any of these mechanics were put into a game alone they would be considered unbalanced and poorly designed; ridiculed by gamers and fixed within the first month of release.
But because the inept devs made the whole game unbalanced it draws brain-dead autistic weirdos that have no nuanced comprehension of why the game is hard, only that it is.

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>>555167726

>>555080775
Im in this screenshot and kek everytime

Ever since they added FLAK rounds for the autocannon I don't see the point in the AP rounds. The FLAK oftentimes is more effective and kills faster. On armored AND trash mobs

Stealth or Dune warbound?

>>555186310
The autocannon is underpowered
>20mm round
>AP
>does less damage than the anti material rifle which by comparison is a round with 80% less kinetic energy

>>555186310
it rewards aim a bit better

>>555186531
Dune 100%

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why was half the last thread just people calling each other brown, how does this general even function

>>555186310
AP rounds are more general purpose and reward hitting weakpoints more. Flak is specialized for light targets by blanketing a bigger area with shrapnel but lacks the necessary punch to deal with anything bigger. Both are excellent as long as you're firing at the proper targets that warrant it.

>>555192343
Just like any general, there are sometimes threads dominated by a single autist shitting on it endlessly during particular outbursts. By either replying to anyone and anything, replying to himself or making up bullshit on the spot.
If IDs existed like they do on other imageboards, you'd see the transparency of such.

>>555131135
>most enemies can kill you in two hits even with heavy armor
You're not wearing the correct heavy armor.

Ballistic Padding
Extra Padding
Fortified

Only ones worth using. If you're going heavy, you maximize defense. Then grab the Jump Pack/Warp Pack to salvage your mobility.

>>555194743
>>555131135
Oh and I guess the heavy gas armor for gas memes.

>>555194716
Is there a reason they're not implemented site wide? The described behavior is on all boards.

>>555195968
Adherence to tradition.
Laziness.
Incompetence.
Maliciousness.
Pick and choose your poison, I doubt anyone actually cares.

>>555195968
It's an anonymous imageboard, the concept of identification even in the most reduced sense goes contrary to the central pillar of site culture. I agree on only implementing it on boards where it makes sense as an anti-shitposting or national identification measure (/pol/, /int/). Enabling genuinely mentally ill retards is the unfortunate price we pay. I just immediately discard posts that were clearly made by a shitpost autist.

The Illuminate truly are every worst aspect of this game combined.

>A lot of stratagems are worthless against them through sheer overkill vs. cost to use
>While simultaneously the faction is completely solved via the MG-43, MG Sentry, and Gun Dog, all of which combined kill everything they throw at you
>The most "exciting" they get is spamming fire or gas
>Keeping in mind that Overseers, even before the fire changes, seem to just fucking refuse to ignite
>Voteless spawning behind you out of thin air, sometimes right in front of you
>Elevated Overseers having the most unnatural flight pattern imaginable that defies any semblance of fun to interact with them
>Elevated Overseers and Watchers flying to the moon via building wall scaling
>Elevated Overseers spamming grenades with pinpoint accuracy
>Fleshmobs getting stuck in terrain, immune to damage, yet still able to hit you through the wall/ground
>Harvesters flipping a coin on whether they're unable to even graze a stationary target with their beam, or taking your head clean off mid-dive

Yet despite all of this, they're not even challenging. They're by far the easiest faction to D10. They're just shit, you'd have to be a masochist to enjoy the most uninteresting form of mental torture imaginable. It's as mundane as the Chinese water droplets on your forehead technique, comically simple yet soul destroying.

Why does the tenderizer feel better than the base liberator? I thought the liberator is objectively better.

>>555197794
Liberator is better.

>>555080658
What should my next warbond be? I have
>Democratic Detonation
>Steeled Veterans
>Servants of Freedom
>Dust Devils
>Urban Legends
Is the stealth warbond unironically worth it?

>>555195968
Nobody really actually cares enough to fight for it, but for the people who shit up the threads the game is INSTANTLY over once this happens so they will do and say everything in their power to prevent that from happening.

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Helldivers 2 D10....woah...epic!

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>>555198163
C4 is nice, but stealth is still too niche and simple mechanically. It's just speedrun diving with extra steps.

Commando missions are too hard, i wish AH would do something about them...

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You can just whip the FRV around that makes commando missions quick since there's no reason to stick around and fight.

>>555198163
Viper Commandos, purely for experimental fusion.
The armor passives are pretty good and aside from the throwing knives (which are fun but a meme) the weapons are more than serviceable.

guys don't fucking scare the artfags off

>>555198163
Viper Commandos or Borderline Justice

>>555197750
Overseers die in seconds to afterburn fire when you use laser weapons despite their main damage output often being much higher than fire's DPS due to their armor mechanics and laser weapons igniting the target before actually penetrating their armor. They are probably the easiest enemies to kill with fire provided you can actually set them on fire in some way, shape or form. Somehow flamethrowers fail to ignite them head-on, most likely to not actually being bugged in the way they apply afterburn unlike lasers, but ground fire still can.

Elevated Overseers overshoot their grenades as they are mostly expecting you to be running away in a single direction and you can abuse this to your advantage. You can also force them to the ground and into your puddles of fire by aiming above their heads on purpose, the retardation in design that is aim resistance will never stop amusing me when that happens.

I agree with everything else. They're not as fun to fight despite being designed as the faction to play when you don't care about AT and just want to let machineguns rip. At least bugs provide a sense of dread from all their jinking and outflanking meanwhile you don't really feel the same with Voteless "sneaking up" and spawning behind you on a patrol out of thin air.
Lowkey, Railgun kinda feels like a lot of fun on Illum front if only for its interactions with Fleshmobs and Harvesters with overcharged shots, but it is a suboptimal choice against anything else, specially since Overseers require two shots to the chest or a headshot, It's still a lot more fun to bring it to Automatons instead though

>>555199059
>>555199028
>>555198354
Brown tranny moment

Yup, he's on it again

>>555199059
anyone posting art on 4chan in 2026 knows that there are a lot of retards who will shit on you for no reason... all the sensitive artists have left. not excusing people being cunts but it comes with the territory

>>555147305
Nigger host a game once and see why solo is cancer.

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SAAAAAR DO NOT FUCKING REDEEM THE BULLYING I AM WHOLESOME CHUNGUS

>>555199097
>At least bugs provide a sense of dread
Kek! Are you from 2024?

>>555132954
its a bug/squid nade, you stick it high up on a wall and farm the morons

>>555133353
reload it

>>555132954
It’s amazing. Don’t use it as a mine, use it as an oh shit button if something goes wrong. If you get spotted throw it up high on something and break line of sight, everything will lock onto the mine that won’t blow up because it’s out of range. It does what smoke wishes it could do, and it’s still 1000 damage heavy pen if you want to blow something up so it’s versatile.

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Post ship names.

>SES Harbinger of Benevolence

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>This thread

>>555197750
Bots will continue to be the most fun because almost everything works against them. Outside of a few exceptions, every post release Warbond and Stratagem added to the game tends to work best against them. Giving them the most variety of engagement. Like all that comes to mind that doesn't really work is incendiary weapons, but that's within the context of fire-based weapons. Because laser weapons dog the bots harder than any other faction.

>>555198354
As expected of furniggers
They never learn

>>555200116
Bots are the most fun to fight against because they're the least threatening. Bots are super flashy with their guns and explosions but thankfully, mission failure isn't possible.

>>555198163
servants of freedom for the ultimatum, unlocks every kind of loadout imaginable

>>555199985
SES Mother of Truth

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>>555199985
>SES Wings of Wrath

>>555200289
Disagree, bots could be way harder and they'd still be fun, because 90% of the stratagem roster works against them. Even subpar picks like the cluster bomb can pull weight in the right scenario.

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>>555199985
>SES Flame of Justice

>Gunslinger armor + Warrant
YOOO THIS SHIT'S GAS

>>555200496
>bots could be way harder
That won't ever happen, its not allowed.

>>555199985
SES Wings of Redemption

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>>555199385
>gucciniggers gets sighted in a lobby again
>indian spamming returns

>>555200682
BIG UPS PIMP!

snow day lobby

I cannot wait for the new toy smell to wear off this warbond so these FUCKING FAGGOTS STOP DROPPING INTO MY GAMES WITH SMOKE PODS WHEN I HAVE SENTRIES IN MY LOADOUT

>>555200838
>>555200091

Is it true bugs cant see and only use sound to detect you?

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>>555199985
>SES Lord of Iron

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>>555200838
>a drawing can cause this much seethe
Have another.

lobby doko

>>555201014
No, if that was the case you could crawl through bug missions and never be detected

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>>555201117
Whatever helps you cope with your browness, champ.

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>>555199985
SES Wings of Victory

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>>555199985
SES Elected Representative of Mankind

>>555200967
Smoke weed everyday

>>555200967
That's why you bring it though.
Keep your teamkill stratagem out of my lobbies.

>>555199985
For me it's Elected Representative of Family Values.

>over 4% invasion rate
pretty bullshit

Can C4 blow through squid ship shields like Spermite?

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>>555199985
>SES Prophet of Truth

>>555201870
Yes, because it goes under the shield so it's a non-factor.

>>555202015
Can you slap it anywhere and still work or does it need to go into the door?

>>555201756
PLAYER DRIVEN NARRATIVE GAME BTW

>>555202063
Grounded warp ships have -250% explosive resist (yes that is a negative number) so the C4 brick's 2000 damage becomes 5000, the exact amount of HP the ship has.

>>555202063
Anywhere.

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>>555199985
SES Dawn of Dawn

>join a random game
>everyone does good
>we win
,>you get kicked
Why does this happen?

SES Lobby Doko

>>555202569
no idea why, Hitlerwasrightkillalljews1488

https://files.catbox.moe/5w3zz6.mp4

>enemies just magically know exactly where you are the moment they step on a landmine
Is this just a host thing?

>>555202742
He was right based off these teams

>>555202894
Nope, patrols are "bugged" (malicious swigger code) to instantly go to full alert upon any member of their specific patrol being damaged. You cannot whittle them down from stealth.

>>555202894
patrolling enemies magically know where you are at all times regardless of aggro status

>>555201756
are we going to lose?

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>>555199985
SES Founding Father of Family Values

Reminder that the game will intentionally spawn enemies in such a manner as to make your sentries aim in your direction, if possible.

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>>555200838
>xhe cried to the jannies again
Speaking of seething, trooncord gamergirl self reporting how soft xhe is again.
Not so tough when you're not spamming other peoples names in the thread, huh shitskin?

>>555203447
And this is why smoke booster is a top tier situational pick.

>>555199985
>>555200436
>>555200563
>>555201330
>>555201478
gay

>>555202219
>>555202231
Nice. Thank you anons.

>>555200467
>>555200563
>>555200682
>>555201094
>>555201334
>>555202404
based

>Try to solo stealth
>Call in supplies to top myself off
>Cognitive disruptor turns the SOS Code into the resupply code
>Have to close the fucking game because that shit opens your lobbies for the rest of the session
COOL FACTION. I LOVE IT. I LOVE THAT SOMETHING LIKE SOS IS AFFECTED BECAUSE BELIEVABLY OR SOMETHING.

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>>555199985
SES Star of Morning

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never forget

>>555203979
that's a weird and small thing to get upset about. are you ok?

>>555204058
NO.
IVE BEEN.... COGNITIVELY DISRUPTED.

>>555203979
I do wish that you could turn off the SOS strat, I never use it so it’s just clutter.

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>>555203979
Get pranked, idiot.

>>555204021
That's a pretty good name, even if it's a shopclick refference.

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>>555204036
You lost, tranny.

>>555204036
Yep. This wins the Internet.

EDIT: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

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>>555204036
>in the screencap multiple times
what a legendary day for shitposting. that was the last time this general was truly united.

>>555204036
>a day later high command makes 500kg a free stratagem
For once, Sweden was based.

>>555198163
You have the most important stuff so choose for fun

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comfy east coast snowpocalypse lobby. Obligatory d10 lobby decides
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241907084381/76561198001481307

JOIN JOIN JOIN

>>555204679
is the supercredit hacker joining

>>555202993
They know this because they know where you aren't.
>>555203194
Nah.

>>555198163
Cutting edge, Borderline justice, Viper commandos, Polar patriots or Control group are all very good.
But after getting the warbonds you have, you have all the tools and training wheels (except for stun nades) you could need, so picking for flavour/fun is probably more important.

>>555204679
fvll

>>555198926
>>555199063
>>555204501
Thanks anons. Viper Commandos it is then.

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>>555204679
FVLL. We dive

>>555089713
>The nose of the jet is literally the gunship's nose stretched like a cartoon.
sounds like arrowhead to me

>>555205007
The lib carbine is pretty sweet. Basically a stalwart with less ammo and can get extended mags.

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>>555204109
kek

what's an unconventional primary that is still good at squids, i'm bored of all the usual suspects

>>555205437
Pacifier, literally the only front it's good on.

>>555205437
deadeye headshot overseers

>>555205259
>loses to chaff
squid cultists have already been nerfed to death it seems

>>555205437
The spray&pray is actually fun on squids.

>>555205437
The new suppressor is not bad as long as you bring something to kill everything else.

>>555205908
Suppressor, with a senator to shoot down stingrays, and C4 for ships and clumped up enemies takes care of everything they can throw at you and is a lot of fun. Lire mines for distractions for when things get hot. I’ve been doing D10 missions today with this load out and haven’t even needed my other stratagems it’s really good as long as you use some sneaking.

>>555205830
i feel like I end up unloading my whole magazine just to kill one overseer

>>555205437
Dominator.

I don't know how they haven't added a helmet flashlight booster yet. Feels like such an easy thing to add that would make the game so much fucking better to play at night.

>>555206996
You can get like 19 mags though.

>>555207971
not realistic, not grunt fantasy

>>555207971
They would find a way to make it take up your backpack slot

>>555207971
If you played the game, you'd know that you can put one on your gun, or bring a secondary that has one attached.

>>555207971
I mean there's a mod that does it. It's kind of terrible because the light catching on volumetric fog basically blinds you all the time, and it's always off-center because the character heads aren't actually always looking 1:1 to where you're aiming anyway.

>>555208195
I mean that's exactly how swiggers would do it so not a huge loss.

>>555208082
Oh you mean the same attachments that you hold perpendicular to yourself while moving at any time other than firing or aiming down sights, or if it's 1 handed, pointed straight up in the air?

>>555208263
press m2

>>555199985
SES Warrior of War

>>555208295
Maybe m2 does something else on your keyboard, but for me, it aims down the sights and makes you walk really slowly, something that could be fixed by putting a flashlight on your helmet

>>555199985
SES Octagon of Family Values

>>555208918
m2 is on your mouse, silly

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>>555199985
SES Will of the Stars

I found a 100 SC yesterday and since then I haven't found a single regular SC drop on the battlefield

>>555209021
Yeah i've just humiliated myself and have to commit suicide now

>>555209341
Wanna do some D1/2 runs together?

I guess I'll make a lobby.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241910981429/76561198120804312
D10 whatever.

>>555199985
SES Halo of Truth

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>>555209714
2/4

>>555210071
wow wtf why would anyone ever build a mech when much cheaper and simpler tanks utterly own them?

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>>555209714
3/4

>>555210387
Gundam at least treats it semi-realistically at first in that the mobile suit mecha stuff, while changing the balance of the war because it's able to be versatile, isn't totally outclassing traditional warfare. Some dude on a turret emplacement or tank can wreck a dumbass or unaware soldier in a mobile suit. Then the series progresses and the damn things get reflexive enough combined with panoramic cockpits for full 360 peripheral camera vision that the more advanced mobile suits dominate most conflict, though plenty of old junkers and outdated tech is still around.

That's still better than most of the Gundam spinoff timeline shit where the giant mecha just overtake everything from the get-go most of the time.

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>>555210387
What's a tank going to do now?

Weapon designs in this game are nuts.
You have guns you have to mag dumb 30 rounds in enemy to kill them. But you also have guns that can one shoot those enemies.

>>555209450
I appreciate the offer, I'm probably done for the night. I shot way too many squids today.

>>555211293
Yeah, a machinegun is going to take way more shots than a recoilless rifle to kill a tank.

>>555210623
I do like that it's played as a source of conflict in 00 season 1, though. I found myself rooting against the meisters for the first 2/3ths of the season, because it was pretty interesting watching the governments of the blocs trying to figure out how to contend with no longer having martial superiority.

>>555210938
Now apply that logic to a mech. Mechs are a meme in real warfare. Only useful in urban environments.

>>555211293
What happens when you let a inbred Slav be in charge of your weapon balancing alongside a loud group of nerftrannies who think everyone should confirm to their shit taste.

>>555211628
Space is probably the bigger thing of note, but urban environments are a big deal in warfare too. Just look at how Helldivers here have such a hassle dealing with city missions because of all the clutter and too much shit condensed together for easy traversal for any vehicle.

>>555210387
I think idea is that tank needs crew. Mech/suits just one pilot.
Modern tanks have crew of 3-4. Most tanks still have 4 men crews. But there was drive toward 3 men crews. Thanks to autoloaders and automated guns.
But with modern warfare. We are moving back to 4 men crew. With 4th becoming unmanned system operator.

In helldivers. Where you drop stuff from big ship from space. You have to haul stuff around the galaxy. Big tanks with big crews might not be effective or even possible. But you still need firepower. Thus smaller suits and smaller tanks.

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>>555211628
A mech for urban warfare you say?

>>555211824
>Video games are real life now

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>>555211869
Urban mechs are one of the most logical mech designs, being pretty much a tank on legs.

>>555211732
>>555211628
Tanks have sucked in urban warfare since 80s. But why wouldn't mechs suck in urban warfare. They face same proplem. Barriers that limit their movement and visibility. Enemies can shot from any floor of apartment buildings. From cellar window to top floor. From both sizes of street.
They should have better mobility. But they still face issues of enemy ambush them from all sides and having cover of buildings.

>>555212084
The thing about it is that they can just.. walk over those barriers. Or in a combat scenario, breach them without worrying about treads getting potentially jammed up. Shit, our Emancipators literally bulldoze anything smaller than a building just romping through. At that point it's map and order logistics and how clever the enemy is. If you can take a tank out with an ambush, you already have the advantage against most other options in the first place.

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>>555209714
3/4, anon went to take a break (read: jacking off)

>>555211779
>I think idea is that tank needs crew. Mech/suits just one pilot.
If you have a mech that only needs one crewman then you are way past the point of being able to have a tank that has one crewman. Less crewmembers isn't that good because the less people you have the more they have to do at once.
>But there was drive toward 3 men crews. Thanks to autoloaders and automated guns.
But with modern warfare. We are moving back to 4 men crew. With 4th becoming unmanned system operator.
Pretty much every big 3-4 man "future tank" has role agnostic controls meaning every station can do everything so in theory you can have one guy do everything like it's fucking War Thunder.
>>555212084
I agree. Realistically the only place where legs are superior to wheels or tracks is extremely rough terrain and alternative locomotion types like climbing, and in the first case you probably want infantry anyway or you just make your vehicles big enough to crush the obstacles and avoid dealing with headaches that making walkers brings, like stability and complex leg movements. Rolling motion is also so incredibly more efficient than walking it's actually surprising nature hasn't come up with some way to do it before us.
>>555212235
>The thing about it is that they can just.. walk over those barriers.
Unless your mech is excessively big (at which you run into ground pressure and being obnoxiously hard to hide, any barrier it could walk over would be easily crushed by a tank.
>Or in a combat scenario, breach them without worrying about treads getting potentially jammed up. Shit, our Emancipators literally bulldoze anything smaller than a building just romping through.
Because Helldivers isn't a realistic physics simulation. A walker with a high center of gravity and very small "pushing area" is much more likely to get stuck in shit or even just fall over than a tank with a dozer blade.

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>>555212084
Mechs assaulting cities just requires us to use proper breaching technique (throwing explosives into a room) but scaled up.

>>555211628
Anon the image is supposed to show a Manticore that has been flipped upside down. Happens every now and then for mysterious piggy reasons.

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>>555212742
>proper breaching technique (throwing explosives into a room) but scaled up.
Good thing we have solved that issue centuries ago without having to invent mechs.

>>555211293
Aim better

>>555212063
Theyre also a massive, bulky, target. Its like a fat white girl at a black man party. Just begging for someone to drone the shit out of it.

>>555131135
>unreasonable micro-purchase prices
this game has some of the cheapest mtx in gaming right next to warframe

>>555212084
>But they still face issues of enemy ambush them from all sides and having cover of buildings.
Its such a double edged sword, too. Buildings provide natural cover but they also provide ample ambush places for the enemy. Remove the buildings, now your mech is a giant, walking crosshair.

>>555207971
waiting for armor customization
one helmet slot two body slots
camo options added to all warbonds that have them for vehicles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_96EmRZS1cA

>>555213180
Maybe power armour is the way to go.

>>555212856
Is the artillery leading the charge at the front? Did you have to wait for the artillery to get into position? Is the artillery shell larger than the barrel bomb tossed by hand (ha ha you didn't include hands on your robot?)?

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>Can crawl right in front of a squid and he doesnt react
>Miss a shot over 200 meters away and now every illuminate knows my exact location
Ok, Sven. Sure thing.

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>>555213506
>Is the artillery leading the charge at the front?
What for? And arguably there are answers to that need too.
>Did you have to wait for the artillery to get into position?
You also need to wait for the mech to get into position to throw his explosives and that's much more of a risky prospect than having a bunch of guys kilometers away twiddling their thumbs waiting for a call. I'm sure in the two minutes it will take the house you're trying to hit won't move.
>Is the artillery shell larger than the barrel bomb tossed by hand
That enterietly depends on how big the hand is, and artillery can toss many more projectiles.
Shame you missed the only good argument you might have had which is accuracy and collateral damage, but those are typically worthwhile tradeoffs for not putting your guys in danger.

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When is the SPEAR getting buffed to becoming a 6*MIRV

>>555215028
That's the alt fire on the Wasp. And it's hot garbage, near useless.

>>555199985
SES Stallion of Family Values

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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241914839119/76561199108851031
d10 whatevs

>>555215308
2/4

>>555215308
4/4

>>555215108
The wasp doesn't one shot chargers

>Join mission
>Shitters somehow allowed FOUR Stingrays to gang up on them
>0 reinforcements
>They all quit
>Get headway all by myself
>Blackbox bugged and missing
Classic.

>>555131135
>most enemies see you in 2 hits in heavy armor
May we see them?

>>555114930
using speargun, I will not elaborate.

>>555147021
Turret is fine for defending extract though, sometimes the patrols are really maliciously pathed and it cannot be helped.
I usually take
>piss beam
>C4
>120 so i can throw it at the other base if we land between 2
>rocket turret

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Arrowhead literally made a warbond thats only useful on one planet

>>555216874
Im having fun.

>>555159482
Not reading that essay shitter
If you prefer single player then don’t buy a coop horde shooter game and i don’t fucking care how many of you are there.

>>555216945
And?

>Maybe I'll give smoke another go
>Equip smoke grenades
>Enemies running at me
>Throw smoke
>They enter its AOE
>I circle around the outside
>Enemies flawlessly 90 degree turn and follow me through the smoke
So nothing changed then.

>>555199985
SES Hammer of Conviction

>>555216874
Its actually good on every planet if you don't play like absolute ass.

>>555216874
If you focus on objectives rather than fightmaxxing, the Warbond is actually pretty overpowered if you know what you're doing.

>>555199985
Dawn of Benevolence

>>555216874
Gonna cry? Piss your pants?

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>>555216874
C4 and throwable mine are great on bugs aswell.

>>555217067
>smokes the enemy
Retarded retard.

>>555217648
>>555217363
>>555217201
>Raise the flag
>Defend missions
>Escort missions
>Any mission that requires you to hold your ground, really

>>555217727
>Dude, just dont be stealthy with the stealth warbond!
You lost the plot.

I wish the "fun is a buzzword" fags from /v/ would go find somewhere else to be gay.

>>555217982
>stealth warbond
It's a combat engineers bond because those are the good things in it.
The stealth shit is all shit because there is no reason to ever play stealth.

>>555218154
>In the warbond that introduced 3 stealth armours
>In the warbond with multiple weapons designed for stealth
>"ermmm its actually the engineer warbond because one weapon"

>>555218202
>c4
>mine
Yes, they are the best items in it, stealth is a bigger meme than melee.

>>555217901
Yes and thanks to the detection reduction the enemies will almost never target you first and focus on your team instead.
It’s actually designed for good players to use in PUBs as it allows you to solo clear most objectives and on those that require fighting - use pubbies as meat shields which is all they are good for most of the time anyway

>>555205806
almost every enemy does piss all damage against eachother because their damage is scaled to our health, not theirs. we have the same health as a raider, a hunter, or a voteless

>>555218282
>Both designed to avoid detection

>>555218530
>short range explosives
>avoid detection
In what world do you look at these and think "stealth".

>>555218680
>One mine designed to lure enemies away from you
>The other is designed to let you detonate explosives from a long distance to avoid enemies
>Both in the stealth warbond
Hmmmmmmmmmmm................ Very interesting....

>>555218836
>mentally ill stealth fag thinks everything is a stealth tool

>>555217850
enemies can and will still find you in smoke if anything sets them off like sentries or c4 or dynamite that blew up across the map after its 60 second timer went off

>>555218680
Are you mentally ill?
Sneaking into somewhere to plant explosives is a very common video game trope and actually used IRL by anyone from chuds, terrorists, insurgents to special forces.

>>555218896
>No argument
Concession: Accepted
Bye byyyeeee~ :)

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>>555218680
you never saw the end of the mgstrailer for ps1 i guess
>https://youtu.be/z7fhvnjo-Hs?si=jT7w-Ysa1MvDBU7K&t=273
TACTICAL ESPIONAGE ACTION

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>>555219012
Grunt fantasy.

>>555218836
What point are you trying to make?
You can use any of the tools in the war bond in any mission you want.
You can choose to play stealthily for most objectives, and you can simply not choose missions that have objectives that preclude stealth; you aren't forced to play them in any way at all.
So what are you REALLY complaining about? Other people in your games not playing the way you want to play? Then play solo or find friends who will play stealthily with you.
No friends? Is it because you are mentally ill?
What point are you trying to make?

>>555219154
>Ad hominem argument
>Lack of reading comp
>No understanding of context
brown moment

>>555219260
>no capitalisation or punctuation
Brown moment.

>>555219047
I remember as a little boy being pissed that Snake couldn't roundhouse kick in the final MGS1 release like in this trailer.

>>555217850
Enemies shoot into smoke. If they're in smoke they don't shoot. Smoke is stupidly inconsistent. Even more so for host. But if you break los (I know stupid) while they're in smoke. They stop shooting.

>>555219376
>Arguing moot points
But how would you feel if you didnt have breakfast?

>>555219476
>Arguing moot points
Who?

>>555219570
>Doesnt know what "moot" means

>>555219260
>OH NOOOOO
>THERE AREN'T MORE MISSIONS FORCING EVERYONE TO PLAY IN ONE SPECIFIC WAY
Surprise, faggot, you can play most of the missions that way whenever you want, on whatever planet you want.
The reason why everyone is disagreeing with you is because you're either mentally ill or a genuine retard.

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>>555219476
>now he capitalises and punctuates his post
I have already won.

>>555219629
New fag

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>>555213506
>Is the artillery shell larger than the-
Yes.

>>555219782
>Still no argument
How would you feel if you didnt have breakfast this morning?

>>555210387
>>555212729
iirc traditional mobile suits are designed for space combat and very easily eat shit in atmosphere/on the ground. only exceptional pilots with good awareness and reaction times or a MS with some strong ass boosters is a credible threat.

>>555219752
>>THERE AREN'T MORE MISSIONS FORCING EVERYONE TO PLAY IN ONE SPECIFIC WAY
Tell me when i said that.

Chemical Agents was actually a medic warbond because it had the stim pistol.

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>>555215308
ggz frens

>>555220698
Did the ass on the right fart blue all over poor S2

>>555215308
GGs

>>555220526
That's what everyone overwhelmingly uses it for, so yeah it is.

>>555221052
Control group was actually an arc warbond because the arc grenade

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>>555199985
SES Advocate of War

>>555198908
cant be stealthy with a car
I will blow it up

>>555221192
No one uses that though.

>>555221234
*drives away*
fast RECON vehicle

>>555221510
Doesnt matter. its the act warbond

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>>555221187
You just gave me the most develish idea.

>>555221608
it needs to drop off the pelican, you need to get in it and drive off
it takes a second for recoilless to come flying

>>555221187
>waifu skins
ew

>>555221706
Are you arguing with voices in your head and trying to prove a point or something?

the epoch is actually really good on commando missions with a supply pack

>>555222160
>killing heavies and groups in one backpackless gun is great
It's crazy it took most of hdg this long to get how good the epoch really is.

>>555222031
Not sure why youre getting upset over this. Its the arc warbond.

Arrowhead could give each player $1m and this general would complain it wasn't $1,000,001.

>>555222579
Faggot

>>555222579
Well, why wasn't it 1,000,001?

Agoyay Bay

>>555222579
Can i take my 1 million in sexual favours from Baskinator?

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>already maxxed out medals
>enough SC for a new warbond and super store items
well guess i'll stop playing until we get new content

>>555222579
fix the c4 host bug, sven

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>4-5 more months of filler MOs until next major content update
Fucking hell.

>>555223312
Tank in 2 weeks. Illuminate cultists in 2 months. EOS in 2 years.

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>>555220306
Mobile suits are even more retarded for space combat than anything else.

>>555223312
we got hearts of democracy in march last year
so maybe we'll get something then?

>>555223267
>C4 host bug
What's bugged? It seems to work fine for me besides sometimes not reloading automatically.

>>555201992
and so...you must be silenced

>>555222160
>>555222492
I didn't use it for a long time because of talk here, but I've started taking it on squids with the warp pack and it's great in a pinch for taking out harvesters and meatballs.

>>555223418
Heart of Democracy was Mid May. Hence the 5 month prediction.

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>>555223507

Late but fuck Sweden.
https://files.catbox.moe/q2fy5l.png
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>>555223504
if you are hosting the game will sorta treat it like the throwing knife sorry don't know the technical name and you will be spotted the warbond was delayed two(2) times by the way

>>555223504
If you throw the C4 every enemy on the map instantly aggro's on you.

>>555223656
don't post this too often
redditors are gonna catch on before too long