Previous: >>554971619>What... is this?Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ>Where can I watch the cup?https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html>Ongoing Cuphttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4chan_Winter_Cup>Upcoming Invitationalshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/LAN_Party_the_3rd:_Admins_of_the_Frozen_Thronehttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/VGL_Luigi_Circuit_4https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4CC_Champions_Leaguehttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League_9/11:_Never_Forget>Wiki:https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page>Sekkrit Code37pebis>DLC Passworddivegrass>Booruhttps://isthisliv.com/booru/>Other videoshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos>PES Infohttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2021>PreviouslyWinter 26 Day 2 over, Day 3 is LIVPINBALL 2015/vr/ undefeated on 15PEPTO BISMOL
you forgot to link the sister thread
>>555138974HELL YEAH
zoer olev
Sangen love!
Is /fit/... good?
>>555139108it's past the bump limit anyway, a new one should be done on friday
>>555138974hell yeah
>>555139108Then you should've done so>>>/trash/80756073
>>555139312but what will i do until then
cloud
>>555139804>/vg/ winslollmao even
>>555139804>/vg/ rapedtrue!
>>555139804kwab
>>555139659well you could make a new thread once that one dies but it's not gonna survive til friday
How many times has a CB gotten MotM?
15 may have many issues, but I love its ranking system.
>>555140007A /wg/ CB got MOTM last spring
>>555140007Bantanna against vg in Spring 22
>>555139804>/sci/ made /aco/
>>555139804>/vg/ raped>/cm/ lost>retard wins>/pw/ gay>/trv/ dogshit>dead crimson better>garbage amount vglco discussion>cord league>pes15 fixed
>>555140108Technology, what is it about? It's about drawing porn.
>>555140231So that's why scientists created AI image generation.
>>555139804>discord saved crossdressing garbage
>>555139108you forgot to kill yourself
>[quote from a show] - Namefag, 2021What a dogshit gametip.
make the penis bigger, make the penis biggermake the penis as big as you can...
I love futa!
>>555140787Bee the change and submit better ones
>>555139804>/vr/ /h/ real>/vg/ raped /fit/>/pw/ play /vm/knockout preview
>>555141906>/vg/>knockoutkek ft. roo
>/mlp/ lost to this
Rape isn't good
took me this long to realize this group has 2 autos lmao who booked this hit
>>555142580t. kevin nash
>>555140007WASTED in Autumn '15 vs /co/>>>/wsg/6041930
Freest group of /fit/ and /d/'s life. Cleanest 9-6-3-0 I've seen a long while.
Jeez
Admin keeps these teams around only to give them the stupidest autos that they can think about. 10 points for originality I suppose.
Why are people posting !bet? Is there a new script or something?
>>555144394PLAP PLAP PLAP PLA P PLAP
>>555144394why would anyone bother drawing porn of the least erotic hololive girl
>>555144394me on the left
>>555144612but that's not amelia
>>555144394>flatfacadedsbased
sangen spotted!
>>555140981same
>>555144823>18:37
>/vt/ hyp vid was just more women screamingAs expected. Still 0 good hyps ever.
>>555144917oguri brap
Always funny to see the chat spam mute and vomit emotes in the chat whenever /vt/'s anthem plays, only because they think it's a vtuber singing.
>>555144394Rabbit anal sex
>>555144823either someone on utc or a bong
>>555145141You think that's the only reason?
>>555144823>the stalker is from UKliterally a pajeet
>>555145150Kill yourself
>>555145141they do it cause it's the /vt/ anthem retard
>>555145183Yes.
can someone explain the pinkchad on /vt/?
>>555145141It's because it has stolen a good eurobeat song and ruined it with shitty content.
>>555145309This isn't even eurobeat, retard
>>555145309What was the original eurobeat song?
>>555145245That's not really any better.
>>554540908>>554541182called it
@nomo 24 minutes agoany /xivg/ loss where the brush was managing
Why doesn't /gd/ just use smuglel's old horsecock tacticsAt least they wouldn't get BTFO then
>>555146578holy motherfucker I missed THAT while getting food?
I love this /his/ goalhorn. I was on vacation to the village where they recorded it last week.
>/VERY TRASH/
>blowout>keeperbabby for 90 minutes>blowout>keeperbabby for 90 minutesKWABson begged for this btw
What is BotRigtor?
>>555147797KWABson already regrets it, only retards defend 15 now.The absolute state.
Post yfw >/vt/ lost again
>another keeper MOTMyeah this is fine, sure.>>555147896This was already a problem last cup but I feel nobody cared kist because it helped to kill /mlp/
>>555147896I am a retard for liking this wacky fun PES.
>>555147896Why does anyone listen to him or first seethe?
Return to Akko, /vt/babs!
>>555147992I mean, Crimson has been complaining nonstop about /an/'s keepers
>>555148015yes you are
my efforts for reviving pes15...
>>555147992>yeah this is fine, sure.Keeperbabbying is in every game. The only difference here is that they can get MotM.
>>555148052He has influence over the cup so whether you like it or not his words will matter in a way.
>>555148082Well, at least I like that they give out MotM to more than just medals.
could TMA fix pes15?
So, it happened AGAIN. We can blame injuries, we can blame fatigue, we can praise /his/'s effort, but the truth is it's simply not enough. Tactics, determination you name it, it all stinks.Don't get me wrong, I still have full faith in Taba and the lads, but MASSIVE reinforcements are desperately needed right now. Otherwise I'm not very optimistic about this upcoming season, or our chances in the Cup for that matter. Not playing like this. What do you think, /mug/?#TabaIN or #TabaOUT?>Some helpful links to numb the pain:https://x.com/NIJISANJI_Worldhttps://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/Hololive/1https://www.youtube.com/@NuxTakuhttps://www.nhs.uk/conditions/suicide/https://help.ryanair.com/hc/en-gb/categories/12488030693649-Refundshttps://www.gov.uk/universal-credit/how-to-claim
>>555147872>>555144384it's a cytube chatbot with various IRC-like script, including buttbot (small chance it will replace a random word in a message with "butt" and re-send it) and a primitive bet shop, among other shite like 8ball, ask, some integration with raceism, etc.
>>555148172The problem is that in PES15 the keeperbabbying happens because strikers decide, very often I'd say, to do weak shoots or shoot directly to the keeper. Which inflates the shot count and keeper saves.
>>555148440who made it?
Why did she do it?
>>555148635The italian
>>555148687I'll make sure to punish her in bed
>>555148687she doesn't even play guitar, this image is embarassing
So which vtuber should I masturbate to?Yesterday it was Rushia and Chloe.
>>555148935Mint Castella
>>555148935Rushia.
>>555148935Hakos Baelz
Suzy just wants to resign, she already made /his/tory as the most influential vtuber in Japan
>>555148974Who the fuck>>555148984Based>>555149006No
>>555149030Too big.
>>555149006Taba...
>>555149046So you don't know?
>>555149218Too fat, go away
>>555148935Kaela
>>555148515Yeah, even on a completely clean throughball you have like 50-50 odds of your gold putting it into a stationary keeper. It's really a fucking gamble to see if your striker decides to play in a given game or not.16 with working keepers my ass
>>555149485In 16 keepers can't even catch the favorable 50/50 so
>>555149485Well in a sense, they work more than 16 for sure, but it's more for strikers demerits than anything.
What if /a/ end up winning this cup off of QUALITY's godkeeper performance?
>>555149879QUALITY only had one good save, /bant/'s shots have mostly been shitty long shots
>>555149752Alright fair, but if you were to call these jobbers "16 level strikers" I would call you utterly deranged.
>>555149879A fate worse than death.
>>555148935Marine - gangbangNeuro - corruptionHako - mating pressGura - everythingShion - brat correctionShigure Ui - corruption
New real thread>>>/trash/80800207
The test to see how much /vt/ has truly changed is to check their divegrass thread after /vt/ is confirmed dead
>>555150352kill yourself
/vt/ lol lmao
>>555150352>guys check out my GAY PORN thread, isn't that wacky?The /trash/ thread was a fun novelty at one point, but you can tell there's a discord clique behind it now with how often it gets shilled.
>>555151069this
>>555151069>hurr durr discord bad
>be Kwabson>demand any change>it’s shit>demand changes to fix those changes>it’s even more shit
>>555151260yes.
Now it turns out that scoring less goals than your rival means losing. Losing is getting dominated, not winning does not equal losing, /vt/ simply had bad luck. /his/ didn't win, nobody sees /his/ as a winner, people only respect /vt/ more after that match.
>>555140007https://isthisliv.com/records/Misc-Nonmedal%20MOTM
Blinky seething over /a/ management, any idea why?
>>555151069I wish I was a part of that clique...
>>555151668They instantly made /a/ competitive
>>555151415Based
>>555151069Most cup people are blissfully unaware of how many genuine discord trannies are around
>>555151864A few minutes spent in VGLcord should be enough to understand that
It's weird to be 4 games in and you got 3 teams in and out. On Day 3 no less.
>yfw /vt/ ded
Gay porn aside I got to see the fully modeled /vt/ vagina in the /trash/ thread so that was surprisingly useful
>>555152620lole>>555151412Cope
>>555152779link it or didn't happen
Check out this kot
>>555152620
>>555152958this doesnt look like my japanese animays
>>555152896kek amazing
>>555152896based
>>555152884>>>/trash/80758124>>>/trash/80758370
>>555153118ebin
>>555152896Cute :)
>>555152896nice
You know instead of watching pes15 you could be doing productive things
>>555153962This is why I have two monitorsI am doing jigsaws on the other one
>>555153962what if ive given up on life
And the chat if FILLED by the FLOOD, the DOWNPOUR of support from all the /pol/ flairs for their team!
>>555153962If I don't watch it, the cup is going to go under 400 viewers
>>555153962Fine, I'll masturbate.
how much overlap is there between /v/tm and /4ccg/?
>>555144823>sangenbrush...
>>555138974>>>>>>+0
3ATB status?
>>555156074Technically /d/ are a 3atb I think? they were against /gd/.
>>555155480come to the other thread
I like /pol/ even more because they are so hated in the cup but they are so terrible
shalom goyims and 4pass usersis there any interest in making a /vip/ team?
>>555156432BEE
>>555156432You'd have to ask /vip/, merchant.
>>555156249It has good music, or used to, not sure how much it changed.
>>555156432>giving rapeape your money after he killed /f/ in cold bloodShame on you
>>555156432i don't think /vip/ is even eligible
Why does /sci/ have Kurisu and Yukari?
>>555156535already did>>>/vip/138241board's as slow as /gd/ though, most anons with 4chan Gold™ are outside of their promised board>>555156670no one used /f/ before it got locked>>555156678why? It's not like /j/ or fucking /test/
kill this guy
>>555156774i'm fairly certain you're not the first one to try it, the banned bowl existed for a time
>>555156774>calling Sou no oneRude
>>555153962I can watch the cup and do woodcutting at the same time tyvm.
>>555156774Well if you think they should have one then make an attempt at a roster that wont get rejected this time, Surely /vip/ has enough culture this time around.
>>555157019>It also didn't help that the board was born 2 months before and that it had zero culture/vip/ is older than fucking 4cc as a textboard
>rs3 in 2026Jesus and I thought I was mentally ill
>>555156432Newfag.
>>555157616since4pass 2012 should be in the roaster desu
>>555156432Of all the 4cc never evers /vip/ is the most unjust. Let the paypigs play
>>555157118>rs3
Sou would you let /vip/ play if they got a good roster going?
So what the fuck is this "cool for cats" goalhorn talking about?
>>555158251https://genius.com/Squeeze-cool-for-cats-lyrics
>>555158216I wanted my inverse slayer cape. Plus some recent changes had me looking at it again.
>>555159014>plays rs3>female toonI bet you're in grindanscape
>>555159014
>>555159296>unironically call character's "toons"Ok Oldman it's time for bed.
/sci/ is a boring team lmao
>/vt/ is dead>still gets content made for it>>>/trash/80802080
MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI
Rigged.
We will get a /hmofa/ team for agl
>>555162843
>>555162843After /ntr/.
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>555162992hfk
>>555162843Holy based, bee.
>>555151415I think bald fraud might be only the keeper to have 2 back to back motm, with /sp/'s final in summer and opening match
>>555162992I love ntr
/nbr/
>>555163496A team that Crimson will sabotage as soon as it is created.
Boris lost an eyeball?
>>555163932Not literally, but he had eye surgery.
>>555162992Hiroki will fight you
>>555163932Boris Todbringer
>>555163932Had to sell it now that his /mlp/ neetbux have dried up
>>555163932punished boris
>>555163932Yes, he has an eyepatch and a piece of shrapnel sticking out of his head
>>555159296Grindanscape has been ded for a long time now.
>>555163932worse, he lost hair
>>555164426Good
>>555164610gamer dent forming
>>555164610What do you do at this point?
>>555164707Go nuclear and shave it down to zero or get a transplant
>>555164707Hop on fin, rogaine and a flight to Turkey
>>555164707custodian ascend
what the fuck is going on?
>>555164707Buy a bottle of hair fibers and use it whenever you go out in public.About all you can do. It's not bad enough where you need to shave your entire head, but it's also noticeable enough that something should be done about it.
>>555164836the winter cup
>>555164707Shave all, rock the Breaking Bad look.
>>555164707In case of Boris? Accept it, leave it alone, larp as Jeff Gord, bdsm porn actor.
>>555164378Can I see it?
>>555164707Either this >>555164893 or the long-term approach of all the 'ides, 'ines and other stuff that retards will tell you that it's gonna make your dick turn into a pussy and eventually a proper hair transplant.Blessed be those with good genetics, I ain't one of them.
>>555166389>*BONK*
>>555166389Usually it's torpedoes ramming into a submarine, not the other way around
>>555166389tits and thighs are unironically too big for her body
>/sp/ might unironically go b2bworst timeline
>>555165569I tried minoxidil and it gave me headaches every time I put it on. I'm holding out for the sugar-based alternative which hopefully will come out soon, and getting a transplant this year in the meanwhile.
>unchallenged in their first two games>two managers who managed back on the original 15 runWho can stop /sp/?
>>555164628Indeed. Inverted necro looks cool at least.
>>555166389god, i wish i was that submarine
>>555166830bad luck in the quarterfinals against a shit team going on a miracle run to 2nd place
>>555166830hubris
>>555166932You could've just said /his/
>>555166830
>>555166830/vg/ in the finals
>>555167513...they have to advance from groups, first...
>>555164707Tonsure
>>555167639not a single soul believes /vg/ won't stomp /r9k/ and /jp/
>>555167859...m-man, i just don't know at this point
>>555167972liz rape
>>555167859>9 easy points
>>555167859/jp/ is a pretty good team and their match with /vg/ in autumn went to extra time
>>555167972liz impregnation
>>555167972liz murder
>>555166830Being exposed
>>555167859I was going to say that it's a tossup with /vg/ favored, but after thinking about it, yeah, I'm pretty sure they'll fuck /jp/.
>>555166830/sp/
>>555167972liz ryona
>>555167972liz vivisection
>>555167859PES feasts on hubris.
>>555166830PES can.
>>555167972liz ambivalence
>>555169023good thing the /vg/ managers don't have the same opinion as the vgl newfags then
>>555169225you know what yeah lets kill the VGL zoomers
>/sp/ hosted cup>Only villains' win
>>555169525but /vt/ lost
>>555169525/i/ won though
>>555169591/vt/ is unintelligent cancervillains need brains
>>555169684still a villain
>>555169339
The standings at Day 3
>>555169339I agree. Except for that zoomer horse I want to fuck her
>>555169782Grim for the future.
Is Halo 3 retro?
>>555170315no halo is retro
>>555169639they're cheaters
>>555170601No, that's /sp/ you're thinking about.
>>555170554Not even CE?
>>555170554MacWorld Halo is retro
>>555170665>he doesn't know
is this the elite cup with the lowest attendance to date?
First Mermaid WC26: Day 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM9DEoWwhnM
>>555171027Would rather watch my Patties :)
>>555171027I don't know, How's your wife's onlyfans numbers?
>>555171264I don't have a wife stupid!
>>555171264wife?
>>555171264my Sangen wife is pure and doesn't whore out
>first coom>no crimsonWhat a treat
>>555171264
2026 4chan Winter Cup Group A result matrix
Simpin on 'cord
Group B result matrix
Group C result matrix
Arisu anal sex
Group D result matrix
>>555172328Faggot.
>>555166389HOLY
>>555171750>Sangen wants to make a /vgl/ Civ modwtf I thought we were supposed to dislike >>>her?
>>555169525/a/ won though
>>555172551I'll forgive most of what she has done to the cup unintentionally if she organizes a vgl Civ CPU vs CPU side-tournament for vg26.
>>555172653exactly
>>555172551didnt someone run a civ match for the teams who died in the quallies this time around
/1999/ are the 2025-26 Patriots of virtual divegrass
>>555166389>>555172498Fat bitch.
>>555172551>Gacha Civ faction>Warmongers without funds that end up cluttering the entire map somehow
>>555172940Turn your monitor on
I will forgive sangen if she gives us some better ideas for what to do with her in the /trash/ thread
>>555173113...
>>555173065You first.
>>555172551i dont fucking CARESHUT THE FUCK UP
>>555173184uh oh melty
>>555173113
>>555172551That's all well and good but you know I'm starting to think this whole meteorology/weather prediction thing is kind of a scam.
>>555173184>I don’t careBut anooonnn you’re suppose to care about every single piece of manager and cord drama that pops up.
>>555172498i still don't know this whore's name
>>555172498Nagi is top tier, but I like the undergrad more.
>>555173678Ms. Rock
>>555173804
This is the most uneventful cup I’ve seen
>>555174248Needs more melties
>>555173804>glasses>shit face>uglytrash take
Frankly this is the worst elite of all time. Okay folks lets just admit it. This tournament sucks. The PES is awful, the formations are awful, the goals are awful, the teams are awful, the streams are awful. Anyway, I don't want to see this, so let's dismantle it quickly.
>>555174662Trvke
>>555173804I liked all of them. Good show.
>>555174818Fucking slut, she deserves getting a DIAMOND HARD COCK inside of her
>>555174662now here's joy milkers with the moos this was a cowherd impersonation right?
>>555174948Calm down Vince
>>555174662We need to skip this season. Scrub all the records for this winter and no star.Absolute trash so far.
>>555175548Salty pony, yurinigger or vtlfag.
>>555175548Honestly, I blame the hosts. They deserve to have a star taken too.
How did /mlp/ lose to /gd/?
>>555175642which of these just got eliminated I wonder
I'll never take a "this tournament is the worst ever!" post seriouslyNothing, and I mean NOTHING will ever be as bad as Summer 14.
>>555175917/gd/ luckshitted their way out
>>555176021>they didn't see group C
>>555176021Summer 14 had fanfare. This cup is a retirement home
vt South American tears?
>>555176275Going from being on the front page of Twitch to the front page of Smashcast to hidden away by the algo on Youtube while streaming on cytube will do wonders for your numbers.
>>555174662But enough about PES 18
This cup is dull and failing to get out of first gear so far. Feels a lot like VGL 22 even though there isn't any dumb shit like formation bans, just a lot of boredom, apathy and uninteresting matches. Numbers are low, enthusiasm is low and after the first weekend this has felt like a sexless 15 year marriage where the spark died years ago and everything is just going through the motions with zero passion.
>>555176527You could go back on twitch and nothing will change
>>555176527not to mention the jannies doing their best to suppress the cup in a stagnant website
>>555176907Yeah, even the /a/ thread got deleted this time. For free.
4chan should’ve died after the hack
You know, some of you really aren't beating the "I'm done with the cup so everyone has to too" allegations from QD and Boris.
>>555176820Maybe the issue is that the cup itself is running in circles after years and years on the same recurring set of PESes. One of the exciting things about the cup was trying out new PES games, seeing it break all around in funny ways while autists were desperately trying to hack it. Basically, the cup died together with PES.
>>555177205Pretty sure Nomo has also said this in regards to negativity in the VGL for like a year now
>>555177147I agree. Then we would all be free of both the cup and the cesspit of dramafaggotry we call a general.
>>555177147Trve nvke
>>555177205>from QD and Borispeak irony coming from these two lmao
>>555175917Keeperbab. Which I still enjoyed because it was funny, we just have to live with the consequences of an actual free point machine being in a group.
>>555177471>Doesn't even deny it
>>555177147I unironically agree
lolcow convention on 'cord
>>555177147At this point, yeah, unironically. I really enjoyed my stay in the other placee but what can you do when the refugees went back to their homes.
>>555177830Just another day.>>555177147No, I think if you don't like the site or any other site you can just close the tab. What is this meme shit of "I can finally be free", you can be free at any time.
>>555177830Why should I care about ‘cord drama and ‘cord cows?
>>555177734But I wouldn't get to see your weewee then...
>>555177328But 15 was as good as a 'new' PES most had never used before and promised a lot of dumb shit and teams being unable to just coast by on running whatever worked last cup. But instead now the 4CC in general feels like a dead marriage with zero passion left, nothing working and I predict another big drop off of managers and teams will happen over this and he next cup. No-ones mad any more but a lot of people are apathetic and that's when things really start dying off.
>>555177328I disagree. The cup sucks because the place it’s supposed to be about is a husk.
>>555177328This is actually why I think the new PES cycles starting on babbies is a bad thing. Not gonna act like 15 was amazing 2 months ago but the freak shit it was giving especially in the first two weekends was really fun to post about. Can you imagine if games like the fetus were actually on this elite's opening weekend? Now all the fun of a PES change is relegated to babbies while elites are just cordial and standard and by the book.
>>555178117just like the big drop after autumn right?
>>555177147I could've been free... at last
[First Boom News] Crimson can't handle not being in FB
>>555178306Whole first weekend has struggled to break 400 viewers most of the time, first weekend of Summer 25 was averaging 500-600, this is a 200 viewer drop off on the previous elite cup despite a big market host. Cup's dying for real this time.
>>555178487As >>555178019 said, you can always be free nigga
>>555178571the dropoff is because no ponieswhich i realize is sad yes
>>555178581no, I can't, my brain won't allow it
>>555178571>comparing Winter to Summer>Summer when people have free time and can actually watchYeah ok sure. Maybe try harder with your bait next time.
>>555178019>bro just leave broI don’t go on 4chan beyond a general and there is no other alternative. Quit being a fag
>>555178617it was still averaging that on the days /mlp/ didn't play
>>555178790Come on there's a better explanation than that. The VGL doesn't lose 200 viewers between seasons.
>>555178905because more ponyfags are aware of the cup due to threads so theyre more likely to stick around
>>555178790most of the viewerbase is in working age. it doesn't make a difference.
>>555178963>>555178790I agree we have been on a managed decline for a few years. But I think for VGL (november and december) is a better time to watch than late January, still the viewer retention VGL got after the peak in X-2 is huge.
[KWAB NEWS] Crimson hates 15 now
[BREAKING NEWS] Crimson thinks Autumn 25 was fun but Winter 26's opening weekend has not been >fun for him.
[First Boom News] Crimson admits PES15 is bad and PES21 is good
CRIMSON ADMITS TO BEING RAPED IN THE C OLD WINTER OF 26 KEKYPOWY WHAT A BITCH
Folks I just have to say it. The Soumissionership has been a disaster. 6 medal PES16? Giving /mlp/ a 3rd star? Rushing us onto 15 without a second thought? Listen, I thought last summer was one of the most boring elites I ever saw. But it's been immediately topped by this one!
[FIRST BOOM NEWS] I just took a shit
>>555179452>Giving /mlp/ a 3rd star?But this was a good thing.
>>555179454Pics?
>bong dollposting at newly AB15 crimsonok, now I've seen it all
>>555179289I'm saying! >>555178242
[OTHER NEWS] GROUDON CONFRIMED A HORSEFUCKER, VTUMOR AND YURIFAG CONFIRMED
>>555179615>Bong was the dollposter all along
>>555178242The easy way to solve this is to remove the babbies.
>>555179263>>555179289>>555179328Because /v/?
>>555179714um, Based.
>>555178242this is why winter 19 was one of the best cups ever, nobody knew what was gonna happen and we got one of the most unpredictable cups of all time
>>555179770true statement
>First Boom hates 15 nowAre they retarded? All their complaints for 15 are the same things that were said before Autumn even started, they gaslight managers for warning them about all of this. Formations isn't even the biggest issue with 15, it's surface level.
>>555178112why would want to see that, anon
>>555180054is it big or small
>>555180054Please stop treating the thread like your own personal gay playground.
>>555180037>Are they retarded? All their complaints for 15 are the same things that were said before Autumn even startedBecause they were so sure that it was merely an issue of LE MANAGERS ARENT BEING CREATIVE ENOUGHNow that it's happening to their favorite good teams in the elites the realization is starting to set in that it's not the managers, it's not the formations, it's not a lack of creativity, it's that 15 is flawed as fuck and a miserable viewing experience
>>555180204Not his fault people keep replying to him
>>555180054>>555180119Shut the fuck up.
>>555180054Please post your crossplay if you want to treat the thread like your own personal gay playground.
>>555179439When will /vm/ add a Roblox player
>>555180310It is his fault if he keeps replying to people. Don't be retarded.
>>555180054Dude stop doing that
>>555180119I dont know, what size you prefer>>555180336had /jp/ won summer 2023 I would have. I even had a photo prepared for the occasion but it didnt age well
But what about /vg/ Weegee Cup which only has 9 contestants
>>555180730What about it?
>>555180687i don't have a preference, i'm just curious
>>555180730it has 11(13) people signed up now though?
>>555180730/psg/ and /gbfg/ signed up today so it's 11 + 2 backups
>>555180054Because we want to see you fuck the Saudi Arabian Crown Prince as he endorses the Cup and the Saudispiracy comes alive.
>>555181025>the Saudi Arabian Crown Prince as he endorses the Cupwait what
>>555180280>bro the magical export that fixes all issues in 15 is just around the corner, the elite and muscular Pot1 elite teams will show us allMeanwhile the Pot1 teams: >>555169782
Saudi Arabia saves the cup, makes us a new PES version every year but we have to execute all these infidel teams: /mlp/ /cm/ /y/ /u/ and /lgbt/ Take it or leave it.
>>555181206aren't these things usually supposed to have a downside
>>555178242Yeah I'll never understand why we moved off of new PES in the Elites. Elite managers should be the ones to have to figure out new shit because they're supposed to be the hot shit. Sure you can get extra retarded shit in the Fetus but you can get that anyways.
>>555181206>buthuh? what's the downside?
>>555181206so what's the catch?
>>555181206I've known saudis on the web and let me tell you the cloest weebs are big fags as well. They love the yuri and bussy from femboys.
>>555181206Nah. /y/ is a "fun" team and the manager is cool.
>>555181136Either you, the /pw/ or /a/ management bumps into him during Comiket where he usually goes to and be all chummy with him to the point that he gets on board with the Cup. But in terms of which hobby board he would likely sponsor, /pw/ has the highest chance of bringing him to the Cup. And as the money comes our way, everything will be Saudi-friendly.Aloha Snackbar.
>>555181206literally no downsides
>>555180730not gonna humor the lolcow ruleset
>/4ccg/ comes up with a meme about Crimson being raped by 15 even though he was actually pro-15>Said meme wins DBC>Now Crimson is actually being raped by 15Did >we cause this?
>>555180730Insallah, you should be beaten with a rock for this suggestion!
>>555181492chaddysoup...
Alright, how do I block the OHAYOU GOZAIMASU video in my browser before it actually damages my hearing?
>>555181514>admin creates the "doll" meme to mock every criticism of 15>/4ccg/ makes it their own and starts using it against admin>Crimson gets absolutely raped by 15 a few months later anywayIt's pure cinema.
>>555181635Stop being a faggot
why is /jp/'s manager so fucking gay?
>>555181932Touhou makes you gay or you like touhou because you are gay?
Since there was discussion about the lack of a new game, FIFA used to have a manager game called FIFA Manager back in the day with a full 3D match engine and afaik it's supposed to be easy to mod
>>555181747>Admin creates the "doll" memeStopped reading right there
all pes are the same they kick ball
Alright, shitposting aside since they clearly read this thread. Why do you want to do another cycle on 15 if you are already convinced it is bad? We can just use another reliable PES version and then jump to 21, or whatever after.
>>555182095i swear that i can tell the differences, i can't tell the differences in each FIFA/EAFC but i can with PES
17 was the perfect PES all along and we need to retvrn to it
>>555182096The major misconception is that there HAVE to be PES cycles.There's a very good reason why people prefer some over the others and why they eventually end up being picked again.
>>555182096yeah the first thing you need to admit about 15 is that it has awful quirks that are unfixable
We just need Triangle to come up with a sensible set of player stats that discourage triangle (heh) passing.
>>555181635Learn how to use ublock
What would be fun its an entire year where each cup is gonna use a different PES version. Book it Sou.
>>555182567To me it is insane how much weight he puts on the formation variety (something 95% of people don't care about) when that is only a small part of the issues with 15. There will always be dominant formations and the ruleset influences this further, but PES 15 is boring for other reasons.
Here's a business plan for you /admin/Do Spring on the 5 medal abomination 15Then throw it out and begin a new cup cycle on a different PES in the elite cup. Let the actual elite teams figure this out first
>>555182803sou will die for the wheel of PES, that's something he's always wanted to do
>>555177147My board should have died. I can still derive enjoyment from /vg/.
>>555182625sgbong wasn't the only one, the infamous poll had plenty of managers voting against it.
>>555183028Honestly it's the only way at this point to make it interesting for everyone. Every cup is going to get a different PES version.
>>555182370Shitposting aside 17 is the most fun pes installment and I will die on this hill. The amount of fun shit that happens on it is unmatched.
>>555182625not just bong, basically everyone who wasn't /admin/ or their bootlickers
>>555180310>peopleno, go back to your fucking cord, you actual fucking faggots
>>555183116in terms of pure fun nothing beats 16 but 17 is quite fun too
>>555183116It does have more goal variety and 3atb isn't completely worthless on it, probably most formation variety because of it for those that care.
>>555182994This was the case up until Winter 19. It would be really fun to go back to every winter being on a new PES rather than every Autumn.
>>555183116pes17 when you have an attention span longer than a goldfish's is pretty boring, see picrel:
>>555183116/admin/ saw too many teams running 4-3-3 longball spam and freaked out, so now we're in a PES with a 4-3-3 shortslurp spam instead.
>>555183368To be far VGL25 had an disgustingly abhorrent ruleset. Summer final was peak and easily one of the best matches of this decade.
>>555183448this, summer 25 was pretty good
>>555183368Pathetic
>>555183429Longball always felt to me like "you" problem for those complaining about it, mostly because they couldn't stop it. The games were fun however and the audience doesn't care about longball or short pass.
>>555183116managing on pes17 is the closest thing ive experienced to an actual good football managing simulator. you can make lots of different exports work on it and livemanagement actually feels impactful
>>555183690As true football enjoyer, I find these scorelines kino.
>>555179185The thing about VGL's viewership is that they have one thing the 4CC (or more accurately, 4chan as a whole) doesn't really have anymore: a strong sense of identity.It's hard to say if it was because of a marked event (e.g. the elections) or just the internet itself slowly changing for the worse over the years as more and more brainrotted hedonistic retards flooded every corner of the internet, but compare boards today to boards from 10 years ago and you'll see a massive difference in how different they view themselves. There used to be more gatekeeping, more disdain for other boards, more propping one's home board up as the best one, but nowadays I think everyone has accepted that every board is shit so there's no point in doing that anymore. All of this hurts identity, which in turn makes people lose that fervor for /theirteam/, and newfags likely aren't gonna stick around for long.The VGL doesn't have this problem because generals by definition have a strong sense of identity. This is why every other edition there's a new big market gacha team, because besides being popular those generals are innately tribalistic (it's a huge part of a particularly cancerous shitposting culture) which gives them the strongest sense of identity and belonging you could ask for, as well as an opportunity to earn bragging rights over their rivals.tl;dr The passion for 4chan itself isn't there anymore because everything is a lot more muddled and apathetic these days, not just the cup
>>555183448>>555183621well yeah speaking of short attention spans while the summer final was great the entire rest of that cup was awful to watch longball.
>>555183429if you want to nerf 433 then consider either banning or limiting the SS position because the flexibility that offers puts 433 far far ahead of other formations
>>555181206>/mlp/show has Saddle Arabians
[Discord News] Autumn will be on 18.
>>555184101Dunno man, every single one of myteam's matches were enjoyable and people had lots of fun, despite myteam losing. Maybe other teams should step it the fuck up.
>>555184102>no formation ban, but one SS maximumFuck it, why not. You wanna run 4-3-3 with 2 CFs or wingforwards then go for it. Miles less restrictive than 3-4-3 ban or running on a PES version that's inherently restrictive
>>555183978Yeah I agree with the culture change and on top of that the /vg/ moderators allow VGL to be discussed which makes the generals get engaged while the global mods just don't want to allow cup "hubs" in most of the boards.It has been said many times but it is that big of a reason to stop growth.
>>555184418Unfortunately more people than just you watch and there were a shit ton of abhorrent games that summer (like Group G and much of the round of 16). /admin/ was absolutely justified moving off 17 after that cup the same way that VGLco was justified trying to kill longball after VGL24. But also unfortunately /admin/ went way to quickly into a bad PES and VGL25's managers just realized that could set compactness to max and kill games.
>>555179452>6 medal PES16That was the freshest ruleset we've had in ages and it was a travesty that it was only used twice.
>>555184851you go up against the wall next to tma
>>555184851some things remain unused for a reason
>>555184804>/admin/ was absolutely justified moving off 17NB17s won't like this one!
>>555183978Getting new big market teams every other vgl also helps immensely numbers-wise
>>555184804I love 17 but I agree the knowledge of the game is kinda solved, not only the abhorrent rules of VGL25 but in general people started figuring out which sliders kill longball. >>555184102>>555184452Maybe going back to GSSBB you can force only one silver SS at most. Or something like that, people shit on Sou because of the bufflet SS meta in 16 but I think with some restrictions it would have made the formations more balanced instead of just 433 bufflets SS's brrrr
>>555185157>>555185274I should specify that I just really enjoyed the fact we had more non-medal scorers and viable non-medal strikers
>>555185628Yeah maybe limiting SS's is the way to go and worth trying.
The bufflet +10 players but they can't have a red position would be really kino
>>555184851That ruleset on 17 would've been interesting to see. Would you be willing to give up on height, which on 17 is important, to have more 6 medals?
you know what we needa 17 patch
>>555185753>we had more non-medal scorersyeah but that was by making them medals lol. bufflets were 87 what the fuck were we doing? if anything wanting more non-medal scorers just means teams need to rotate medals more so it's not the same silvers scoring every time.
>>555185753It's fun to get more rare goal scorers/goal horns, but anon is right you are just having teams with essentially 6 medals you can rotate by condition.
GSSSBBB but 1 silver and 1 bronze have to be benched at all times
>>555185925>teams need to rotate medalsbingo, I've been watching the cup for 13 years and now I just find most teams except /myteam/ to be stale and boring because they haven't rotated their roster let alone their medals in a decade
>>555185925>bufflets were 87 what the fuck were we doing?The worst thing Sou could possibly do. He gave /4ccg/ a voice and listened. Very gracious of him to take all the blame for it so /4ccg/ could shit on him for those rules that were pitched to him by /4ccg/.
>>555186493Everytime I tried to pitch bench medals someone hits the "but" "but" I hate having a roster with 21 players and only 5 get to be super special, almost impossible to replace
>>555186581>/4ccg/ is one guyMy favorite meme.
>>555186581Link the posts faggot.
>>555186748/4ccg/ is two guys. Me, and the other guy who holds every opinion and constantly contradicts himself. I am so much smarter than him.
>>555183943Testing on it is absolutely miserable on the other hand
>>555186936You're saying this while we have a cup running on 15
Real communism has never been tried. All 77 teams, same height and form, the only thing that distinguishes a GOAT from a fraud is their innate ability and RNGesus' will.
>>555186493A lot of teams rotate medals
>>555187028this but unironically, i need it.
>>555186891But which is the one who shits on /4ccg/ while posting on /4ccg/?
>>555187028could be nice for an invitational.
>>555184804I don't think anyone is arguing that the cup should run 17 forever, but rather that 17 is a good PES, and a few ruleset changes can make it or break it, which is not the case with most other installments.
>>555183368more like pes17 when you have a dogshit ruleset designed to encourage low scoring snoozefestsvgl23 and vgl24 were fun
>>555187082not enough teams and not often enough, also rotate as in new medals not just swapping golds and silvers
>>555185925>if anything wanting more non-medal scorers just means teams need to rotate medals more so it's not the same silvers scoring every time.I think that's the wrong way to look at it, non medals scoring is exciting because they're underdogs who not only shouldn't be able to score on a pure stat level, but also they don't often play in goal scoring positions so when it happens it means some amazing shit is going on in the field.Non medals also have the "liberty" of being extremely specific references to some shit that will never be a medal player, so they can be off the wall which adds to the excitement. I like team having star players.
Forever17 is good because ruleset changes impact it the most and even with that it's still very unpredictable. Most viewers would never tell.
>>555186936Yeah that's true of every PES>15 has wild swings back and forth because entire games are decided by a CB not being a inch too far from a striker>16 has wild swings back and forth because the entire game is throughball fc>17 has limited consistency game to game especially when you're stuck in a longball meta>19 rapes you with momentum every other game good luck figuring out what the problem is >21 still has momentum but also has CB and cursor issues that can kill games for one team. and more stuff that I can't tell was because of 21 or not because of all the fucking patchesI'd call testing useless but when I don't test my team loses even harder and I feel responsible. I envy managers that just don't give a shit so much.
Arohashatsu
>>555183978Mods banning anything related to “board culture” was one of the worst things they’ve ever done. I wished the sharty found a way to doxx them too because ABIB and RapeApe have utterly ruined the place to make it their personal fiefs.
>>555187685>ruleset changes impact it the mostusually poorly or not at all. on the most recent cycles despite having a medal difference the VGL and 4cc both went into the same 4-3-3/4-4-2 longball meta. when the VGL used a ruleset to limit longball the result was an ass cup. when the VGL and 4cc had actual height abuse on original 17 it just made the winner the team that figured out how to longball it to a 200cm striker. not to mention the /fit/ and /aog/ stars which, while they were nice winners, were very boring and defensive cups. 17 has a lot of variety (especially after years of not being used) but it walks a razor thin line for rule changes.
>>555188258The cup cannot sustain itself with the same PES and rules for the end of time though.
I got raped
>>555186936I enjoyed testing on 17. I hate testing on 15 and 16. 15 is the worst testing PES for me, an absolute slog.
['cord news] Logan Paul to sponsor /lcg/ during VGL26.
>>555189696:carlwow:
Seeing the 2huminati fall for Mr. Beast crypto scams is like seeing Russia fail to take Ukraine after all these years.
>>555192752Zil is a 2hufag?
>>555189696>>555192752Who fell for it this time?
that's going in the aoba folder
>>555197556you have an aoba folder?
>be me>thinking /gd/ won at least one on they matches>didn't see the first week because i was busy>open wiki to peek the results>0 points, -10 goals and probably will get the wooden spoon>mrw
>be me>ESL king>they think it be it do but it do not
>>555199552>thinking /gd/ won at least one Why
>>555200551If they can defeat a 3-star team like /mlp/ they must be good.
/mlp/ should have beaten /c/ if they wanted to promote
>be lolcow>make this post >>555199552
>>555200758>If they can defeat a 3-star team like /mlp/ they must be good
>>555200883be nice to him he barely speaks english
there's very little parity thus far this cup, one draw total, 4 teams already dead and 4 already through
ESL emperor baffled
>>555200883>implying i'm a lolcow>>555200551i was guessing if they defeated /mlp/ and go to winter, they would win at least, right?
>>555201393The win against /mlp/ was flukey at best.
>implying i'm a lolcow
Anyone's a lolcow these days
That's what a raped lolcow would say.
Yes, it's fascism
Everyone's a raped lolcow these days
Who can beat /sp/?
>>555201769Nemesis if they good too arrogant
>>555201769Me.
>>555201845>if they good too arrogantmy liege...
>>555201769Trans Suicide Statistics
/aco/, /d/ and /h/ all in top 4
>>555201769This was already asked in this very thread fuck off!!!!! Is this cup so bad that the only two questions we have are>durrrr how can previous champion lose duhhhh?>sou dood pes15 bad wat nou?
Can't wait to get another round of ChatGPT friendlies from that one gook general
Can anyone compete with the /sp/artans?
>no VGL friendlies >only one set of invitationals
>>555203453The roses are forming, the walls are on the crack etc.
>>555203453Troondlies are negligible
>>555203453this faggot unironically wants troondlies lmao
>>555201769Random unsuspecting team that will 1-0 the champs on a keeperbab, like the VGL
>>555206760If we get back to back Elite final Keeper MotMs we seriously need to change PESes.
>>555179263>>555179289>>555179328kek what a bitch
First broom link?
>>555210163 here >>555171214
>9
ASS Rentry?
>>555181427>He doesn't knowI'm so sorry anon.
Can pol advance to the knockout stage or is it over for them at this point? I don't understand how the points system works.
>>555223275/pol/ can advance if they beat /an/ AND /sci/ beats /b/. However, this would only put them on an equal amount of points requiring a tiebreaker. The first tiebreaker is goal difference, then goals scored, then head-to-head. Example:/pol/ 3 - 0 /an//sci/ 2 - 0 /b/This would give /pol/ a goal difference of -2 and /an/ -3, meaning /pol/ has a better goal difference. They would then be equal with /b/ who would also be at -2, but since /pol/ has scored 3 goals to /b/'s 2, /pol/ goes ahead despite the goal difference being the same.qrd: /pol/ need to win by at least 3 goals and hope /sci/ either win 2-0 or by 3 or more.
>>555223275They have to pray for a 9-3-3-3 miracle, which means that /sci/ needs to win against /b/ and then /pol/ needs to win against /an/.
>>555202060/d/ is not touching final four without serious fortune. They are more probably in for a rude awakening outside of the group stage.
>>555223709>>555223763Ty
>>555223709and main problem there is>/pol/ winning
*rubs TMA ruleset shaped belly*
rapedlolcowsayswhat
WHAT
>>555226841Never mind winning, they need to score goals.
>>555185873https://github.com/zocram4cc/bee17(this isn't that good btw)
on march Lads on Tour 2GO TO THE HELL /PMMM/!PLEASE RELEASE /vg/maniaaa!!!!
It's already confirmed, just need to be confirmed.
Cipher entering the /1999/ plane
>>555234847>the trangen planeNo women in that general
>we're back to thisGood to know I can close 4ccg for the next 3 or 4 days.
>>555234847Plane's gonna crash because of the excess weight.
>>555231417something something jews
>>555234847>no flattiescringe
>>555235617There looks to be one flatty or atleast small chested in the front left.
>>555235067Why is she driving? Dumb image
>>555235180This didn't even mention her, funny how she's already so rent-free in your head.
>>555236472>her>she's>t. trangen
>hmm I really dislike [topic]>should I ignore [topic] posts or reply to each and every one of them so the amount of [topic] posts is doubled
>hmm I really dislike [topic]>I will pretend not replying to [topic] somehow means the [topic] is not being posted about
>>555236765Works everytime.
Raped by Sangen hours
>>555237323
>>555237502>JB
>>555237323gonna start replying trangen to every mention since it pisses you off such muchactually twice per mention: trangen trangen!
>>555238138ok
>>555238138I support your endeavor but only because it incidentally humiliates Cipher.
I hate size queens so much, all they care about is my dick
how do motivation
Why do Vyrewatch make the funny pose with their arms?
I prefer my sangen wife as a futanari
>>555232345He got released alright
>>555241842I prefer your trangen husband as an ex trangen
>'ccg could be discussing the pros and cons of keeping 15 for another cycle>instead they're all discussing about gay niggers, avatarfags and futa cocksKill yourselves
>>555243672whats the point when Sou will just do whatever he wants
>>555243672There's nothing to discuss, Sou will make the decision just like Re- Denko did regardless of opinions.
>prosmakes admin do le funny basedface>consis killing the cupback to your scheduled avatarfagging
>>555243672No one cares about the 4cc anymore unc
>>555245112Well, time to fucking close down this thread, then.
>>555243672>'ccg could be discussing the pros and cons of keeping 15 for another cyclewe have done this to death, nothing got done
>>555237323cipher...
>>555243672>discussing the pros and cons of keeping 15 for another cycleI think you mean we could be discussing what ruleset we are going to use :^)
>>55524517115 flopped bigly and killed /4ccg/, we NEED /vglg/
>>555245395Well, that too.Literally anything related to Divegrass that isn't avatarfags.
>>555245564What do you think an avatarfag even is
>>555245628Something offtopic and not worth discussing.
>>555243796Re-Denko? Like Re-Zero?
we NEED the invasion angle
>>555246789invasion angle in 14 hours!
>>555246789your moms womb needs an invasion angle with my sperm
>>555246789We already had it
ok here's the plan:we take this game (it's open source)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8DcgFDT9scwe make our funny models and stadiums for itwe develop random tictactical stuff that makes the managers feel important and keep it open sourcefree of the PES menace
>>555248395id rather stay on 15
>>555248395Is this genAI?
>>555248395>or let two agents play eachotheryep, this is it
>>555248592nah, this is an open source project ( https://github.com/vi3itor/GameplayFootball ) google took as a baseline to make some machine learning experiments a few years back (pretty interesting stuff actually, pre-LLM boom). they just have the best video on youtube about it
>>555248395The 4slop Cup
>>555248395>aislopno
>>555248938fine, here's the non-google version https://youtu.be/J8H0iyUabno?t=449
>>555248592>>555248938Are you 2 retarded?
>>555248395book it sou, get the italians and the seas to work on it
>>555249204this one is even more out of date it seems, but the google one apparently removed shit like menus.however the original dev also says the game sucks and you should never even try to continue any development on it, instead just copy stuff from it to build your own game. he used his own custom-engine for it that is not good and that only he understands.like it is a great idea and i wish somebody would do it but when the commissioners of all the cups are barely computer literate, what do you expect? every single piece of software related to this cup either never gets update or only gets updated when absolutely necessary while people work on shit nobody asked for or needs. it's a pipedream to ever get off PES
how manly or feminine is /yourteam/'s franchise's fans according to the japanese
>>555250662it sounds like you can do something about it
>>555250859nah
>>555250662yeah I am aware, it's mostly a shitpost - still, for an open project, it's surprisingly pretty far along, I've seen way worse when just searching for giggles, and looking at the code it doesn't really look that awful
>>555251136I guess we're all a little retarded
>>555250662>every single piece of software related to this cup either never gets update or only gets updated when absolutely necessary while people work on shit nobody asked for or needs.Well you do it then faggot
>>555250804i dont see re 1999 on there
>>555250804>AoT and RedditxFamily over at the women side/a/keks? Mind explaining this?
>>555250804Sumokeks are women?
>>555252287you thought women falling for fat guys is just a fake thing in doujins?
>>555251747nah
Fuck off retard.
anal hours
>>555253589yes, with my sangen wife tonight
So the thread will go back to normal until trangen and cipher go away which is like 6 more hours.
raped hours
>>555253250Choking is patrician.
>>555248395looks like pre-14 PES
>>555250804absolutely spot-on with efootball considering the cup's audience these days
>>555221981Huh what do you mean
/a/ discord
>>555255781Free John Gook.
>>555255781Our exiled emperor must be restored to power
>>555255781>He is spreading his teachings to the 4CC nowTruly, a modern age prophet.
>>555255781/vg/ Maniaaaa you will stay banned if you post in other Discords!!!! Don't do it!!!!!
was away for the weekend, what did I miss?
>>555256398His bullshit stopped being funny over a year ago, he should stay banned regardless
>>555256543Crimson regrets going to 15
slopmachine's judgement call on open-source football engine:https://paste-bin.org/ac5dak0lyjtl;dr it's good
>>555250804Funny how there's almost nothing along the (imaginary) 50/50 line.
>>555243672Yeah your right anon…..we should be discussing MORE ‘cord drama.So guys whats the latest ‘tea’ as the kids say?
>>555250804>PES is the actual most masculine hobby you can possibly have
>>555243672What's the point of finding cons for something that was executive decision'd already? Nobody in /admin/ is asking whether or not we should run summer on 15 unless crimson goes mad with all the rape and pulls a backroom coup (he won't). Instead it's all talk about which 5 medal stat distribution to use because that's apparently going to fix your strikers shooting it at the keeper and your defenders giving up halfway through the play
>>555257605>it's all talk about which 5 medal stat distribution to useWhere?
>>555243672Last time this happened for both admin and VGLco they just picked the other option anyway.
highguard team when?
>>555257605Sou is considering changing the defensive stats of nonmedals, so that's something at least. My worry is that it'll end up fixing the defenders turning into sacks, but then we'll raise the amount the strikers shoot at bad angles directly at the keepers. Maybe buffing nonmedals and nerfing keepers is enough to do it though, I dunno.
>>555259487Would nerfing keepers help much when most of their saves come from the strikers shooting directly at them?
Boot up PES 16. Problem solved.Or throw 15 in the trash.
The selection should be made truly random. Let a site like random.com decide.
>>555259684people who suggest nerfing the goalkeepers arent looking at the problem
>>555260696That's probably most of them, since even on stream you have everyone going "holy keeperbab, batman!" every time a keeper gets 6+ saves because of the strikers shooting like shit.
>>555260696>>555260892nerf the keepers and it becomes a twice as boring 16 with much less impressive shots going in
>>555260892honestly i wouldnt be surprised if even a 50 rated keeper saves most of those terrible shots
>>555260892>>555260696This. Keepers aren't really gods, they are efficient. It's just most of the shots go straight to their hands or body.All the "keeperbabs" we are seeing if you break them down, keepers only save one or two really difficult shots. The rest are routine saves.
Pretty fucking stupid that a 77 goalkeeper can grab shots of a 99 or a 77 and you can't tell which is which because he catches both like they're le hecking bad shoterino
gameplay football will save us
>>555260696That's why I said I dunno, because you'd have to make keepers pretty fucking bad for them to stop these shots that are aimed right next to their legs.
>>555262194I have access to some slopmachine tokens for free, may as well just throw it at it while I fap to futanari
>>555262124You can tell a lot of those are bad shots easily. Some don't even look like they got any power behind them, or they go directly to the body even from a 99, the trick is they need to be in a certain angle against the goal otherwise they fuck up.
They're not actually going to use pes 15 again for spring, right?
>>555262831So how would you go about making strikers make better shots?
>>555262831>Some don't even look like they got any power behind themBecause the goalkeeper is overtuned and turns even the max value kicking power into a casual save way to often
>>555263009Damn, the goalkeepers have psychic powers which make the balls fly slowly?
>>555262929>/u/ and /mlp/ perform terrible in itWe are getting a three-year cycle of 15.
>>555242338No, he is still ban...
>>555263198Complete with patches and stat autism
skully kill these faggots now all of them please just pull the trigger they've all gotten warnings before just do it for once
>>555263825Look up "releasing" on a dictionary.
>>555264034You first
Anon DESPERATELY needing skully's BALD THROBBING JANNY COCK down his throat and on his face and LAYING DOWN THE LAW mmmm so goodhi skully i hope you read this and have a real epiphany about your life
why can't you guys be normal
>>555264746They are a couple of posts I don't like in the VGLcord and I have to now take my rage to another website entirely and make it /4ccg/'s problem
>>555264746Define "normal"
lolcows expressing their rapedness in the 'ccg while talking on 'cord
>>555265520'oofs?
>>555265720'vealed to me in a 'eam
>>555266935>flatwon't be wasting my seed there
>>555264034AAAAA SAVE ME DISCORD JANNY MY PURE #GENERAL DISCORD CHANNEL OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHELP MEHELPPPP MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>555268260extremely raped lolcow post
>>555268260NOOOOOO YOU DON'T GET IT, I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS, I MUST SHARE MY LIFE WITH THE VIRTUAL DIVEGRASS 'CORD OR ELSE I'M FINISHED.
>Kiyose mutes the /trick/ faggot>grudgeposting against him becomes more frequentkekypow
>>555268767As expected of cuckbrush 2.
>>555268230the jews took this from me
what the actual fuck is going on
>>555269058We have been magically teleported to planet retard
>>555269095Okay how you know?
Only generals with more active players than Geoff Keighley's pet game will be allowed into VGL26
>Open the 'cord>They are just dissing HighguardAnd here I thought it was something entertaining.
>>555269305Not used to people talking about games /llsifg/ cutie?
>>555269305NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DISCUSS VIDEO GAMES IN THE VGLCORD, I MUST MAKE 500 POSTS ABOUT THIS IN /4ccg/
>>55526930595% chance whenever some no life discord dwelling faggot comes here to start whining about the VGL discord, it's almost always an absolute nothingburger.just some wannabe reddit mod complaining that he doesnt have discord power
>>555269590>>555269517
>>555269289Geoff WON?
>>555270038I wouldn't be so sure.
>>555270148When have steam reviews ever mattered... especially ones made by w*sterners.
>>555270553The game is actually bad. And not in a haha funny bad but a painfully generic kind of bad.
>>555269305>/llsfig/ KEK surprised when someone plays or talks about games
>>555270553A ton of the reviews are just review bombing faggots trying to leave an epic maymay as a reviewBut apparently the game is legitimately terrible and runs like absolute shit even on the highest spec'd PCs.
>>555269305troonsoup...
>>555269305Many are getting raped by this post, Imagine getting RAPED by an llsifgfag
>>555270148>>555269289People and sloptubers called it Concord 2 from the start for a reason
I have 10k posts in #gookshit so you better ONLY discuss video games in there OR ELSE
>>555270553but the eastern reviews are always the meme ones
Lolcow melty hours
>>555269058First time?
>>555183978I hate that this keeps getting worse as time passes, one of the fun things about 4chan that got me into it was board identity, culture and how they clashed with other boards, as friendly banter or some actual invasions/crossovers, the 4cc was an extension of that too, it's all generals and ""secret"" discord servers fighting for dumb narratives of who owns the thread.It's so tiring
>>555183978>more disdain for other boards, more propping one's home board up as the best oneniggerfaggots like you who act like boards are separate communities instead of the same people discussing different hobbies and topics in separate dedicated spaces is what killed the site to begin with
>>555264085how can he will unban?
>>555273748Fuck off, ask the guy directly and stop shitting up the thread.
>>555273739>gatekeeping killed the website>not the modsNice try /pol/ immigrant
Where are the webms of group A?
ARYANsoup and WHITEkaza are the only ones not signing up to TMA's clownfest btw
>>555273969you've never gatekept anything, the mods did, then they stopped caring and the whole facade fell apart, because the premise that a bunch of retards on an imageboard have any control over your hobby's audience is laughable
>>555274280cool
So who are the peters of Winter 26 so far
>>555274996What's a peter
>>555275541he's a family guy
/dlg/ and /high/ for vgl26
>>555274280troonsoouop and -ackaza
>>555275541so you don't know
>>555275541Nothing worth caring about.
'member when every peter jobbed in the round of 16?
>>555243672Because a lot of PES15 problems were already highlighted before Autumn started. The people defending PES15 just realized how bad it was when, basically, the 2nd cup on it started. During the Autumn Cup, they were happy, just because it's a PES that hadn't been used for like 10 years, so it felt fresh, new. But then the 2nd cup started, and reality started to creep in.
>>555276261I remember the tournament being extremely boring during and after that.
getting that urge to play minecraft again bros...
>>555278325Play hytale
let's ask for another 15 poll
>>555279081>playing a game that was made because some guy got upset mojang told him to stop preying on kidshope you were paid to post this
>>555278325Play deadlock
>>555277395I mean it's very notable that /admin/ sours on it at the same time as /v/ loses to a side passing /h/ and Boris himself actually experiences the PES.
Denko and TMA linked upNeed it or keep it?
>>555279104oh boy, what flavor
>>555274280neither are 6letters, Prunselball, or lav's alt account thoughbeit
>>555278325do you also feel an urge to dress in women's clothes
>>555279932melty flavor
Thoughts?
>>555283139I ain't reading all that shit playa
>>555283139He's correct but this isn't new insight and doesn't propose a fix so it's pretty worthless.
>>555283139Direct quote for whoever else prefers to read on a dark theme.>>>/mlp/42975978
nu?
>>555283139I feel a lot more pressure not simply because of being a tryhard but because every cup feels like it could be the last one.
>>555283706This. Every half hour some fag starts waxing poetic on the passage of time and how the cup is in decline, but never actually has anything productive to say
>>555285725This but unironically
>>555283139>check what prompted this meltdown>"this is true, managers just aren't willing to have fun anymore or to treat the cup as something entertaining to do"Oh yeah it's so fucking fun when you work on a team for a month and you get to hear exactly none of the new music export or get a good look at any new models because your "fun" and "entertaining" meme export ran into a group of clones of whatever 4-3-3 we're copying this time and didn't get to play, so everyone from your board loses interest in the cup even harder.And may I remind you, this insight comes from the second most tryhard board of mid-4cc era after fucking /sp/ whose definition of "fun" was saturation testing and who threw a 700 post long tantrum whenever their team died in groups.
>>555283139@grok QRD
>>555286854/co/mrade...
>>555285729I think it's a weak and self-defeating excuse too that /admin/ loves to espouse openly. The cup has its highs and lows like literally anything else.
>>555287021Can't be a /co/mrade, he said the team had new models.
>>555283139I'll say one thing, First bait has become stale as fuck.It needs new people that aren't the same assholes that's always going to be for the same board and against the same board. Basically you can tell the mood of the thing depending on which team won and which of their teams are facing off next and its getting so tiresome to see.
>>555283139>>555285101Every single opinion about the cup from /mlp/ can be discarded instantly. I will not listen to faggots who were able to have daily cup threads for 15 years trying to me how things should be done, they literally don't understand the problem
>>555283139>lol just take the cup less seriouslyThat is fucking rich coming from /mlp/
All I am going to say is that is feels really, really bad trying shit out and then eating shit in the cup year in year out for a team to be brutally honest you know like 5 people care about. I don’t begrudge other managers for running the meta but even when I was a student with free time I was a shit manager let alone now. I’ve long accepted that my team will never win a star, would step aside if anyone new wanted to take over (nobody will) but want the team to be competitive.
>>555287347You won't get FB to change without changing the hosts, and there isn't anyone willing to BE. I liked the times JB joined even if he is also biased about some teams, but otherwise it is still the same 3 or 4 people. Crimson being biased about whatever, Blinky trying to not sound raped about /a/ and the other guys that join in are good lads but don't have too much of an opinion about things (QD, Groudon etc).
>>555287567>daily cup threadsthey don't, they have threads when the cup is on, that's it, you're describing this general.
>>555288326He is still right because having a hub to talk about the cup while it is going on is a lot better than what the other boards get. If a mod is in a bad mood he will just delete your game thread and that's it.
>>555288486that was raised after to be fair >>>/mlp/42984755
>>555288326So a thread for a cup up on every day that the cup runs for. An unimaginable luxury to 80% of the boards 3-4 years ago who were lucky if the mods didn't annihilate poll/roster update threads and doing matchday threads was a suicide run>b-but /vg/ can have one tooYou don't get it, do you?
The collective thing that /admin/, managers and such have to accept is that no amount of rule changes are going to change any PES to a fundamental level. Unironically, to have that, you'd have to patch the game, but that opens an entire can of worms that none really wants to open.
>>555288592/vg/ is a discord team actually, no one ever posted team polls here
>>555288486>>555288592If I could openly communicate with my board I’d probably be able to find a replacement manager.
can some wiki admin remove /biz/ from the front page?
>>555289265Sure.
>Trump always chickens out/pol/'s fate is sealed, back to the babby they go
>>555289908>>555289908>>555289908
