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Horny for Hornets
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The official F-35 account on TWFKAT posted a video with background music that sounds like something straight out of AC.https://x.com/thef35/status/2016179467845083217
If it's a Yuke it gets the nuke
>>555360267It doesn't sound like AC musicHowever I didn't know F-35 has an early version coffin system like the XFA-27 has.
>>555361939>>555360267Fucking hell we better not end up with the coffin system IRL because the last thing anyone need is someone training their own killer AI
>>555360273Belka pls
>>555362195Uhh......a few years ago a Blackhawk was flown via AI control. While last year? year before? An F-16 was used for the same testing.A buddy here fixed up the image of the AI blackhawk that was posted with the story to be more fitting for what it did.
>>555364065So where do someone get some mute people with no blood to take them down
>>555365653I'll remind you the first one to stomp all over ZOE was constantly talking in battle.
>>555364065>someone actually saved my shitpost from '22>>555362195>the last thing anyone need is someone training their own killer AILoitering munitions have been thrown around IRL since Nagorno-Karabakh, and the fields of Ukraine have seen swarms of them essentially since the start of the conflict. We already live in that timeline, and we didn't need COFFIN to create it (although we could argue that FPV drone operators get a version of it).
>>555358404This is the only F-18 that matters.
A question:Do you think Kono is going to have a music surprise in 8 like JA>Playing level set to normal AC music>With out warning a vocal power metal track starts to play at mission update.
Got something in the works, releasing super soon! <3
>>555376895Ohh Area 88 mod >Something PA really needs to do a tie in with again.
I'm still new to modding and could use some advice. I've been using an infinite ammo mod from moddb com. But when I mod in new aircraft, it disappears and the aircraft takes priority. I've tried increase the ~ but it doesn't work. Any one around have experience with this mod? Is there a way to use them both?
>>555382575>i've been cheating because i suck cock at the game pls helpYeah get good you fucking PC faggot
>>555384787It's so... short
>>555390546Plens used to be VERY smol.
>>555391457I mean short as in not tall. Like no need for a ladder to get in there
>>555397668Yeah she was a short stack plane
polandballs in the big '26get that thing off the road bruh
>>555405591Its fine if they are AC balls
>>555371367<<flemenco intensifies>>
plene
>>555387097I guess someone is mad they can’t afford a ps5 for the new game.
>fell for the nuclear option memeOf all the lies Ace Combat tells me, it's how helpless surface combat ships are. Trying to survive 3 layers of air defense to release a saturation attack at 5km as a solo player is suffering
>>555434636Yeah ships are basically free points in AC, kinda like ships in Gundam that aren't used by the protagonist or their rivals.
I really hope this or a similar camo skin comes to 8 for its F-35, looks so much nicer in camo. Plus the blue stips on the vertical stabs is cool.https://www.nexusmods.com/acecombat7skiesunknown/mods/2532?tab=imagesAlso a mod for 7 I found with a similar camo scheme.
>>555434636AH had naval assault where that was somewhat not the case.
Nassault's next video is going to be Zerohttps://x.com/Nassault_/status/2011653152559472871https://x.com/Nassault_/status/2016420580807868483
I'm S ranking all missions in 7 and just how the fuck do I get nearly 62k points in Anchorhead Raid (SP mission 2)?I've been using the 12 missile SP weapon of the CFA-44 and I can barely scrape 60k, plus the plane is listed as a multirole fighter but handles like a high speed train so I'm also having a hard time taking down the bats within 4 minutes.Some ace please help me out.
Hello /aceg/, I don't come here often but I did some AC6 fanart and thought I'd share it here :D
>>555456920Try using the xfa-27 with MTSM. Good luck buddy. That mission is super overwhelming.
>>555457046*spins revolverYou're pretty good
>>555456920Take the Rafale or Su-35, then spam LACM/LASM for the ships and ground targets, and 6AAM/LAAM for the air targets. Try to get some of the Ospreys carrying the high-ranking Erusean officers, they're worth 1.5k points each IIRC.If you're willing to carry less ammo, fly the Su-33. EML bypasses Mimic's bullshit lock-breaking jammers, and it still has LASM to deal with the ships.The X-02S can do the exact same with better maneuverability and more ammo, but I'm assuming you can't afford it yet.
>>555457659Engravings provide no tactical advantage
>>555457641>>555457673Thanks for the input.And yeah I've unlocked every plane and special weapon and S ranked all of the main campaign, but I'm a bit dejected that someone who's done that would be expected not to have my issues with this SP mission...
>>555464461I would bring the F-15E with the SFFS to take care of all the clustered ground targets and ships, and then just switch to the 6AAM when it’s mostly just fighters hanging around. The Eagle gets pretty fast on its own so I’d just bring mobility and ammo upgrade parts. You’ve got this, buddy.
>>555455925Ohhh, TLS beam looks odd both other than that this should be great.
>>555456920>multirole fighter but handles like a high speed trainShe is a purebred Zoom n Boom girl trying to use her in any other way ends badly.Part wise take stuff that increases blast area for bombs and better homing for missiles with faster reloads if you want it. With 3 returns lines you don't have to worry about ammo count. Go for ships and Ospreys over anything else they bring the most points. The targeting drones are worth hitting if you canAs far as planes go, what other anons said are good choices. Also F-15E SFFS to clear ground and ships, missiles for planes and TLS for the bats. Before you go WTF and I thinking use it as a support role they can't jam or block it letting you get constant hits on them while you riddle them with bullets and try and get missile locks. Its perfect to do chip damage on them till they die.But if you really want to go ok time for you to die just take Darkstar 4 PLS make short work of everything on the map.
>>555457046really fucking sick work, buddy!
>>555464461That’s the exact situation I’ve been in buddy. SP1 is easier but SP2 I’ve only s ranked on ace one time. Never doing that again. Remember to checkpoint abuse once Incel and Butch spawn, that way you have full health and ammo. You should ideally only resupply once or twice during the first part. Another thing that helped was turning the music bgm off that way I could actually focus.
>Rare footage of a Buccaneer flying at its maximum altitude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhV2Lo3fnZQ
>>555477396Why is british naval aviation so bad?
>>555478068Its not the planes its the infrastructure
>>555481880>engine so powerful it tears the land apartGuess Brits were fans of warcrimes from the very start.
>>555481880>You see, Nigel, when your engine destroys runways, you do not need to burden your plane with the unnecessary weight of anti-runway muniions.
>>555487617But then your enemy develops a counter to runway destroying engines.
>>555490460Cesna is a rulebreaker and absolutely unfair to the world of aviation.
>>555490920I still dream of a Cessna with bolted-on manpads in one of these games. Like Bazooka Charlie but Strangereal.
>>555494870Only if it is added alongside an Antonov An-2 with barrel bombs
>>555495568And a TB-3 SPB, but with drones instead of I-16s.
>>555494870So this then?
>>555466703>>555468845>>555476727Here's an update on my efforts with SP mission 2:I've tried the SFFS with the F/B-22 and the result was similar as the previous ones, I got maybe 59900 points and downed the bats in time, but I didn't enjoy the bombs very much, and I didn't have any good option to deal with the air targets.I've tried the LASM and I barely got to the 40000 points needed to complete the mission, I might try the PLSL on the F-15C or the Su-57 but I'm not sure how much I trust my aiming abilities.I've also tried the XFA-27 with MTST and I've gotten a good amount of points but I was always shot down before the end of the mission or I crashed while escaping the terminal guidance UAVs, having to get THAT up close and personal is difficult with the amount of artillery and planes.The suggestions of using SP weapon upgrade parts were great.So thanks everyone, I'll let you know how it goes.
>>555503156>PLSL on the F-15C or the Su-57 A lot of ships on that stage just soak up PLS fire if your not using Darkstar then PLS would be for air only as you will waste to much time killing the big point ships.
I hope(cope) AC8 will have an AC3 tie-in
>>555510298COFFINs are coming
>>555510548>Hornet is the hero plane>This will be in as a high end plane
>>555510548really???
>>555498668Pretty much. Joke/meme planes are funny and surprisingly fun to play. If only there were more of them.
>>555520935>Joke planesWell while we have only seen 2 Sota officers just going by the uniforms they wear this plane would not be out of place in Sota
I don't wanna wait for AC8Can I just have it right now pls
>>555524387You can fly to Japan head over to PA office and bribe Kono with a Flanker you acquired from India or somewhere that has some type of Flanker they would sell you.Now you can play the game today.
>>555525704Trying to bribe anyone with anything from India would send the wrong message. Maybe try one of Indonesia's or Kazakhstan's, they have cool roundels.
>>555528904Fair point I was just thinking of the easiest place to "acquire" a Flanker from on the cheap. Didn't think about the cost to repaint it.
>>555531473Or better yet somehow steal a su57
I am the only person who wants AC8 to have the non-super Hornet
>>555534292wasn't it already in promo materials?
>>555534042Would it count? its not a real Flanker its a pancake
>>555528904>Indonesia's FlankerKek. You're going to pay double to repair what they do gave you. Shit's a hangar queen
>>555534292>>555535419Yep.
You think we'll get to choose Joker squadron's planes like in 5 (and Zero and 6) or do you think they're gonna be stuck with F-18Es and we only get to choose our own plane?
>>555544794I feel like us picking the entire squadron's planes makes the most sense, especially with orders being back seemingly. I'll be sure to take the most cursed rosters imaginable just like I do in 5. I just hope they're better at using their special weapons.
>>555544794I wanted it like 6. Let us choose the planes and the spw to go
Ok, show me those bingo cards
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>>555545702>I just hope they're better at using their special weapons.I have lot of hope because allies in 7 regularly hit shit, they just do practically no damage at all. Pretty much the only things I see go down are the first set of oil tanks in Pipeline Destruction (if I don't blow them up first) and the occasional helicopter.
>>555556223Every once in a while they'll steal one of my kills on a weakened fighter. It seems like their AI in the DLC missions is also a lot stronger, when I played through it recently I remember them nabbing a few drones and Count was actually a lot of help in the Scream/Rage duel.
>>555534292NoOld school F-18 >>> soulless meme F-18
>>555548367>Shadow22fuck i don't know who that iswith that i'll admit i'm pretty new to the games, played 3 4 5 ZERO 6 and 7 only once, should I do them again to get every lore bit?
>>555560201He's the new rival ace in 8, he appears briefly in the reveal trailer
>>555560201
>>555565564>not a single one with glassesa bin of garbageis where your image must gonow you must perish
Su-37 needs to be in AC8, I don't care if it's outdated and only for nostalgia points, I need me Terminator
plen
>emulating AC4 is plug-and-play now>works in hardware morethe sun is not square>don't have to nuke my machine with software mode>no double tapping F9 to remove blackface>whole game works seamlessly and jank-freenever kill yourself
>>555579074one day we'll have fully stable, fixed AC6 emulation
Some AC3 Fanart I did this morning
>>555560201Got me thinking:>Shadow22 is Ares (god of war)>Ares has a sister Athena (god of generalship/leading troops among other things)>22 is a reference to Air Combat 22 (which ran on Namco system 22 board)>22 isn't the squadron leader>Original Air Combat ran on namco system 21The real boss is Shadow21/ATHENA and Cope gets got by the damn wingman
>>555590721I wonder if we'd get some bonkers shit like her trading her wheelchair for mechanical legs, which also have the benefit of improving her piloting since her heart doesn't need to pump blood to real legs.
plens
>>555544794Giving that was one of the biggest complaints in 7 since the first week after release. I would expect without question that we'll be picking wingmen planes again.>>555545702Yes
>mfw the mod for PW that changes the models of all planes to be two-seaters so i can hang with prez all the time is bustedyeah i know the prez everywhere mod works but it bugs me not having the planes with the physical space for her
>>555592356Nah she'll have Belkan super robo legs when she bails out they deploy wings and small rockets. She has a .50 cal and swordBoss fight phase two startsYes you really are fighting a Belkan witch
>>555548367The only prediction I'll put forward for now is Noise being the narrator kid from 04 but older now, fits with him having the guitar and looking kinda of down all the time.>Tasha is Bartlett's daughterWait how did anyone come to that conclusion?
>>555604076If Barlett and his Yuke lover hooked back up during or shortly after the events of 5, their kid would be the right age.
>>555603996kino, fund it now!
>>555604076>Noise being the narrator kid from 04Just not feeling that but I could see PA doing that for muh AC4 reference.
>>555603584I feel you, if I knew anything about modding I'd make one myself or try to fix it.
Why we already have one of the best Tomcat livery I do hope for 8 a couple of other more well known ones
>>555609062And this one
>>555512096I mean it'd be fitting as a way to give some older planes new life as getting the AC3 super versions would work. And with how the entire Wings thing is if you've got planes with COFFIN installed you'll never actually have to see who's in there. No need to worry about photographs potentially blowing your cover.
>>555603584What if Prez was sitting in Monarch's lap?
>>555611669That would make the final fight with Crimson 1 very difficult.
>keep accidentally saying belkan instead of balkan
>>555604576That is a bit of a stretch, it wouldn't really explain why her only line in the trailer is Spanish. I feel like you'd have a better chance of Professor being Snow's kid or related to Keith somehow.>>555606762Probably not since PA doesn't really do that but it is a fun idea if a little dumb. But out of all the 'who is Noise really supposed to be' that one would probably be the most satisfying. He doesn't seem like Count and his attitude doesn't seem quite right for Dision. More than likely he's just another entirely new character with no connections.Also do we ever get a time on when the boy from 04 wrote the letter to Mobius? He was already grown up at the time, it must've been sometime near the end of the 2010s.
I think I may militarize the ISS so that some renegade F-15 pilot who grew up on NASA optimism and idolized the ISS as a beacon of peace and human cooperation has to shoot it down
>>555610952> AC8 high end planes will just be the normal planes but with COFFINs...replace the machine gun with pulse laser and I'm in
>>555620976Yeah what was up with Nagase going "oh my science, the Arkbird, a symbol of peace, can't this war just end..."Then going "FOX TWO SHOT DOWN A BANDIT I'M GOING TO RAPE THESE YUKE FAGGOTS" in missions
do you think eruseans ever get smug about how they had the enemy at the gates twice and never nuked themselves
>>555623026Considering they kinda lead the research on brain-ejection tech (neucom), they are absolutely out of their minds.
>>555623026erusea got turned into boeing-amazon-walmartopia, not sure if theres any reason to feel smug about that
>>555621160Pacifists aren't know for being very bright. I think her logic was more that everything Osea was doing was to end the war faster, which was true to a point since Harling was on his way to North Point before he got yoinked by the Belkans, so while she was sad the Arkbird was militarized she was able to rationalize it. This all went out the window with Harling's disappearance but the plot mandated no one in Wardog picked up on that until it was too late. Really Nagase picked the wrong time to join the OADF is all, she probably figured she'd get her wings and do patrols for a few years before training to become an astronaut. No one ever expects peacetime to end when they join up during peacetime.
>>555610952And it works inuniverse as well these planes would be high end in 2029 but by 2040 they are getting rather outdated by far newer planes that are everywhere.
>>555620551Given how his hand looked older like in his 40's I'm guessing sometime in the 2030's? 2029 if he didn't age well.
imagine being belkan you will never win any argument because the other guy will just post "7 nukes lmao" and win by default
The game itself calls it "unthinkable" but faggots will act as if the game presents it as a genius strategic move
Is it possible for Delphinus I to be the end plane for AC8
>>555627809I don't think we will go beyond ACX era planes. Maybe in a later installment.
>>555628176ACX was a decade ago (in universe) its already beyond "ACX era"
>>555628176ACX: 2020AC8: 2029By this point all the originals minus Fenrir should be common 6th gen planes across the planet. Having the low end real world planes from 3 be the high end planes in 8 makes perfect sense both in and out of universe.
>>555631371>NAV Hawk might be a high end attacker in AC8At last...
>>555638567It would open up some fun with a high end F-117
>>555639550It's weird that 7 doesn't have a playable Nighthawk. They're in the game already and the Erusean ones already have machine guns.
>>555641194Same goes for the Harrier.
nuh-uh you cant hit me through my everything-proof shield
>>555643691FUCK your everything-proof shield
>>555644681
>>555645075think the thing that im most excited for in 8 is actual persistent debris with hitboxesshooting planes down and seeing their wrecks actually impact the ground or other NPCs is gonna be sick
>>555644681>>555645075SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKERNow your Anti-Anti-Everything-Shield-Railcannon is out of action, now I will rule the sky uncontested!
>>555638567carrier based Nighthawk taking off from a modernized Essex class is going to be awesome
F/A-18C and two SP weapons is confirmed right? I hope Charlie Hornet + SAAM is an option
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>>555653447Seems it'd only for eurobuddies. Maybe the other regions will get ome later.
>>555655359considering the timing, perhaps the next big info drop is coming late feb/early march?
>>555655656Good chance.
Every day I get closer to death and despite knowing that, Kono actively chooses to not release the game.
>>555660117Just hold on long enough so you can play through 8 on your deathbed.
I still find it very funny that Ace Combat 5 has a Puddle of Mudd song as one of it's theme songs but I'm glad it's there. The game even comes with its own AMV if you sit on the title screen.
>>555580684DISION!!!!
I find it strange how BUFF and the dorito get retired before long Bone in AC3.
>>555660117>>555660369Every day someone complains about 8 not being out yet is another day 8 has to spend in solitary.
J-36 prototype unit 4 spotted. EOTS unit shifted aft, no visible pitot tube.
>>555674618Seems like it's lacking space for an AESA radar in the nose and hasn't gotten a whole lot of stealth optimization yet. Still seems like it might still be an aerodynamics demonstrator more than a preproduction model
>>555675570>Seems like it's lacking space for an AESA radar in the nose??the thing is ginormous dude
>>555675932any size comparison to known 5th gen fighters?
>>555664490Yeah, one of the weirdest random choices they made, but it gets stuck in your head as very fitting.
postwar south belkan pilot (OADF) who wasn't special enough to be with the grabacr guys being assigned to the widowmaker squadron and getting really excited at how cool the name is until he sees what he will be flying
>>555503870In the end the XFA-27 with MTSM and a lot of care not to stick around swarms of enemies did the trick.On to the last one.
>>555580346if you can stomach 30fps it's not that bad but i wish cutscenes didn't have fucked up audio.
Plains
>>555685026IIRC this thing's like F-111 sized. It's a fucking chonker and a half
>>555711349JASDF has my favorite anniversary liveries.
>>555711349The JASDF is the last breath of SOVL before we drown in a sea of ASG and Stealth Grey.
>>555718376I really like their F-2A Yatagarasu livery even though it's a clusterfuck of different colors.
>>555718762I really wish they could paint their F-35s in blue, unfortunately reality demands blandness.>>555718775I love the Phantom livery they added to 7. They gave the old girl a fond farewell when they retired her.
>>555685835I wonder how it happened honestly, was someone in the band a big fan of Ace Combat and wanted a song in it? Or was Kono just a fan of their music and reached out to them? Honestly that sounds like something Kono would do
>>555725817https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ace-combat-5-lands-in-puddle-of-mudd/1100-6110753/Oh there's my answer lol. Also while I was looking this up, apparently Ace Combat 7 is going to be one of the 'free' games for PS Plus next month.
I HATE AIR SUPERIORITY GRAY I HATE RADAR ABSORBENT MATERIAL camo honestly depend on the pattern, some of those green fulda gap colors were really lovely I HATE LOW-VIS TAIL FLASHES
I wanna get a couple custom wide mousepads with plen images, give me plen images in the style of pic related
I really like getting to choose everyone's planes in 5, it's fun getting to personalize like that. I would kill for a game with XCOM-style squadron management options, though I would prefer to keep the fully scripted characters for a campaign.
wings of steve lol
it's wings of theve not wings of steve
wings of thief
>>555755608isn't that just the B-1
did we ever find out what a theve is
>>555758670Steve, but in Engrish.
>>555758670>>555758875Apparently the FCU's captiol is named that.https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/theveAccording to this it can either mean a small shrub or the first ewe lamb of the year.
thevez nutz
F-5, F-20, or X-29, which would you pick to be in 8 if you could only pick 1?I'd pick the F-5. It's so precious. 4 AAM, rockets, and unguided bombs for the SP weapons.
>train delayed>everything sold outKill me.
I guess I'll just some of these instead.
>>555765896F-15 is a big girl
>>555767741how did they make the f22 so small that's actually really scary
>>555765896F-5 with an all black MiG-28 skin of course. I love the Tigershark and the X-29, but if one has to get in it should be the F-5.>>555770281Sekrit Belkan shrink ray technology
Was anyone here in ACE/S '26? Please tell me you recorded AC8's theme. PLEASE.
https://steamdb.info/app/2288340/history/what the fuck
>>555565878which planes should have glasses and why
>>555782508HOLY TRINITY PC PORT I BELIEVE
>>555653447It wasn't among the options, but what I'd REALLY like to see in AC8 is more realistic mixing when using the inside-cockpit view.I want noisoer comms, a lot less bleed from outside the canopy, and annoyingly loud warning sounds.>>555782508More likely than not that's just going to be a recap of some sort.
>>555783580>ACZero\acz.exeIt's an executable, would they really make a whole separate program just for that?
>>555782508Belkan conspiracy plot confirmed>>555783426Any plane with a split cockpit window should have a pair of shades, like the A-6 wearing aviators.>>555784357Yeah I'd expect it to be a video file if that's what it was. Unless it's some kind of digital artbook thing, some companies make bespoke apps for stuff like that.
>>555784357>>555784474The Elden Ring and Armores Core 6 artbooks were included as .exe files in their Collectors' editions.
>>555782508
>>555785976Aww man that's probably what this is then, maybe like a new version of Aces at War.
>>555783580They already released 5 on PS4 running on emulation (had to be, since PS4 has no hardware compatibility with PS2 unlike PS3), I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all for them to do the same for ACZ as another preorder bonus.
>>555782508>Rukbat
>>555782508>DenuvoOh
>>555795172Still makes me sad.
>>555795172Aww look it's even a little grassy enclosure a tiny plane could crash into
>>555795172>>555795350>>555798310>>555798325I HAVE SEEN THIS EXACT SEQUENCE OF POSTS BEFOREI SWEAR
>>555782508>8>Zero>OnlineGolden Age of Ace Combat incoming>>555798372I feel like I would've remembered making that joke beforeI suffer from persistent deja vu but it didn't tweak
>>555798861Russians and Finns need to grow up and stop pretending their gibberish is a real language
>>555765896Playing DCS made the F-5 one of my favorite plens even despite its limitations, so F-5
>>555765896I have immense love for the Tigershark but having the Tigershark without the Tiger would feel a bit wrong, no?
>>555789498>>555782508I wonder what would that mean
Its a cold and snowy day today. Might be the perfect time to start a new run on Zero
>>555765896If it has to be one, It should absolutely be the F-5. The F-5 was in service with 26 countries, had over 2000 units built, was the bad guy in Top Gun, and is still in service today. It's even seeing combat with Thailand's updated F-5TH.Meanwhile the X-29 was a one-off X-Plane and the F-20 wasn't adopted. As much as I like them, they've had nowhere near the same real world impact.Side note: I'm still mad they didn't add a "MiG-28" with the Top Gun DLC
>>555803406
>>555646049>shooting planes down and seeing their wrecks actually impact the groundThe older games did that. Unless you were really high up the shot down plane would keep falling until it hit the ground.
>What if JDAM, but missile?
>>555805341
>>555805341Ah yes, the PJDAM.Alternatively known as the Pajamadam.
Once more into the fun
>>555782508We got Ace Combat 5 as a pre-order bonus on PS4 (not PC) and Ace Combat 6 on Xbox. I assume this is something similar, in which case you better make sure to pre order cause there's no way to get the former now. The former was basically a PS2 Classics port running at a higher internal resolution and with higher resolution UI assets with trophy support. The Ace Combat Online part is most interesting, cause it could mean a separate mode (or even executable) entirely like Metal Gear Online, or just be a regular online mode partitioned into a separate app for a closed network test, either way we might get to try it out early!
>B7R>Take the F-5>All kills on mook and Rot done with normal missiles and gunsFeels good
>>5558113235 was just using Sony inhouse emu like they use for their other PS2 games they sold on PS3/4But with Zero I know its a long shot for sure but what if instead of just a simple do what we did with 5 they instead have redone it in 8's engine and we'll get the first in the remasters. I know its a long shot but still given 7's huge success they could have made the case for a sort of test run before they do the other 6, Yes I'm including X & PS1 trio
>>555814289>But with Zero I know its a long shot for sure but what if instead of just a simple do what we did with 5 they instead have redone it in 8's engine and we'll get the first in the remasters.delusional
>>555814289>But with Zero I know its a long shot for sure but what if instead of just a simple do what we did with 5 they instead have redone it in 8's engine and we'll get the first in the remasters.We'd be lucky if it was a source port, a full on remake is fantasy. It would most likely be a repackaged emulator.
If wanting remasters makes me delusional then so be it.
>>555816317a remake in a different engine is a whole ass new game, being developed alongside their most ambitious mainline title? it is simply not happening
>>555805341Welcome back V1 flying bomb.
>>555816543I wish Ace Combat had that kind of pull. But our game series is no Resident Evil so for the time being even remasters are a thing of fantasy, unfortunately. Makes me sad.
imagine trinity remake but like how fromsoft did with DemonsSouls
>>555820780Haven’t played either version. Was the remake good?
>>555820989neither have i, i dunnobut i know its absolutely gorgeous
>>555803406>>555803617Yeah this is definitely the variant PA should bring into AC8. It's nice to see the F-5 turned into a modern killer.
>>555826785i sure hope that warhead works and the missile doesn't just lodge itself into the plane so it can be recovered and reverse engineered
Directus liberated with Mirage 2000D>Gelb wanted to be cheeky and reverse fire a missile at point blank range>made for an easy kill
>>555820780>butchered art direction in exchange of visual fidelity>butchered the soundtrack Oh god please no
>>555820989the remake plays better and the techinical quality of its graphics is very good, but it completely misses the point of the original's art direction and atmosphere
>>555832426>butchered the soundtrackThis is how you get a fist fight to break out at PA
>>555837695I dunno that might result in people being someone to death with some prop helmets they had around for mocap sessions.
>>555580684He looks very chudded out in this image.
>>555840110>one PA dev offhandedly suggests using AI to recreate the soundtrack>the guy next to him walks out on the spot, goes to the hardware store, and starts picking out doohicky components
>>555840182>Billions must be Sublimated.
I'M GONNA FUCKING DO IT again
The sword has been pulled, Still a fun level if simple. I have never attempted it but has anyone ever got Excalibur to kill them as it falls to the ground?>>555844948Good Luck
>>555841504>Kono pulls out a flamenco guitar
>>555844948why are you playing a shit game
It's so funny how they just kept Gründer around after the Circum-Pacific war
>>555853937*Euroflamenco with latin chorus starts playing.
>>555853579>Implying Osea was ever able to fully remove Belkan influence from the military and goverment
>>555853579Listen, they somehow managed to mass produce X-02s cheaply. At some point Belkan fuckery doesn't justify throwing the baby out with bath water.
>>555854824i mean it didn't help them all that much in the belkan war
>>555818935I miss forums. We had some grade A autism back in the day. Now they just make fools of themselves on twitter rather than standing up for themselves because they have main character syndrome.
>>555854824>mass produceThey built ONE (1) X-02 sold it to the Yukes who's pilot got himself shot down by I would assume coastal ADThis really should have been a mission. Your on another patrol over the mainland this X-02 along with a large amount of Su-35's & Su-37's showing up. Instead of oh this plane yeah it was shot down off camera.
>>555857350It was a better time
Bartlett flew a F-14D in Zero had forgot that detail
>>555811323It's just some pvp modes with a lobby that can handle a lot of people
hitting the hardest o7 of my life as the kestrel goes down
Mayhem with F-20 is such Kino it gives all the right feels.
>>555731592Search for "cutaway" and you'll find them, buddy.
>>555854724Dude that would fuck so hard
>>555854824Same as in WW2, wonder-weapons aren't going to decide the war all on it's own. Belkan superweaponry won't go too far when they decided to start a war with BOTH of the major superpowers of the world and the other neighbors along with it, not even regarding the allies had the magic mute super-ace on their side.The real Belkan retardation was starting that war at all.
something about airplane cutaway diagrams feels perverted...
>>555766445>>555767569>>555767741>>train delayedJapanese tragedy. How was the concert, buddy? Was it packed this time?
Is the second phase of Pipeline Destruction with the sandstorm and all that a remix of Yellow 13's boss theme? I've been hearing it lately.
can you take it all away
Ace Combat Online will feature fuelt. knower
>>555782508>also includes mentions of proton and linuxInttradasting, although I wonder how much (if anything) changed on that front since AC7 runs pretty well through Proton already.>denuvoCan't seem to escape it.
>>555896682I really hope it's not merely a pre-order bonus and is an actual game on Steam.
>>555854824Hell when the EASA wanted an improved X-02 Grunder had to pretty much rebuild the thing from the ground up to NOT be a death trap due to infamous wing failure issues because it turns out the switchblade wings make regular variable geometry wings look simple from a mechanical standpoint and those fold points are massive failure points when it comes to stresses from flight.That and working to incorporate CFTs and more fuel load because the original X-02 had range as bad as the F-16 or original F-18>>555858116Hell he could have been switching from the high speed configuration to the low speed configuration and had one of the wings actually rip off at the point where the wing swept forwards. Turns out the reasons why forward swept wings never really caught on is that the gains weren't worth the mechanical weaknesses at the point where the wing sweeps forwards (resulting cracking if not catastrophic failure) Even Aces at War brought up just how the X-02's funky wing configuration really doomed it from even limited production beyond prototypesStill trying to remember why Denuvo's the devil again?
>>555895576>>555860054 here, no it doesn't lol
>>555908405>Still trying to remember why Denuvo's the devil again?Haven't kept up with it, but supposedly it keeps/kept writing shit on your drives over and over and over again, effectively reducing drive lifetime.What IS well known is that at least the early versions killed performance for no reason whatsoever (presumably, the supposed constant writing to disk). When they finally managed to crack it, the cracked version ran better than the legit one.
>>555908405>Still trying to remember why Denuvo's the devil again?denuvo basically forces a game to be recompiled on the fly, causing it to run 10-1000x worse, and it also fails a lot leading to crashes, and the worst thing of all, it forces a game to be online only and once the verification servers are turned off, the game is rendered permanently unplayable
>>555908405Everything that others said, but also a caveat that is probably not relevant to you is that Denuvo DRM-locked games will lock you out of the game for 24h if you hit its activation limit (run the game on multiple different machines in a short amount of time)On Windows this is generally a nothingburger but if you're a Linuxfag or Deckfag then every time you change Proton versions that also counts as an "activation". This can be made even worse if you're on one of the Proton branches that updates regularly (thereby also counting as "activations")
>>555909535>>555910346>>555911724I mean I was waiting for it to hit the deep Steam sale cycles anyhow as I might not be able to run it effectively until I do my system rebuild which might be a 2030 thing with how stupid RAM prices are. Because even without anything else it'd be >UE5 and I question if even Belkan Black Magic for programing could make that remotely optimized.Especially since this box is hitting 7+ years old at this point so my CPU is the utter bottleneck (also >slow RAM as ARMA painfully pointed out constantly)
Fave AC track? for me it's https://youtu.be/QdJ_mkgFeAE?si=ni0lKxACKgQwE_8w
>>555615443they are the same
>>555908405X-02 did see limited production you fight 8 of them in 5's arcade mode. Aurelian has some as you unlock her from normal gameplay. The FCU built a few for testing.Just watch they'll use that as an excuse to send you one of the test models bring it to your carrier and get her airworthy once again for late game missions.
>>555916447AC severely lacks missions where we are tasked with test-flying super/project planes.AC3 space mission and ACX2 air liner were the closest thing to a formula change.Like, imagine being made to test flight a Delphinus I/II and see it just style on conventional top end planes, then have it pop up as an endgame boss.
Using Denuvo for flight games in 2026 is so retarded. At least 80% of flightfags that have enough money for at least one of the following: HOTAS, pc powerful enough, pc powerful enough for VR, VR headset, huge monitor.etcHave enough money to buy the game on steam, basically almost killing piracy. And the ones that don't, are mostly people that you dont want as customers anyway.
>>555916447It'd probably be a X-02B or something as an improved model. >>555917235But Delphinus I is kinda crap it only gets remotely interesting with the Delphinus III. Still manages to be the ugliest top tier / super plane Project Aces ever made
>>555917760I don't have the room for a HOTAS and don't want one anyhow. I'd go with a cheaper stick which reminds me of the old Sidewinder sticks from Microsoft.Also >VR is such a dogshit meme
>>555918079>Delphinus I is kinda crapIn 2040. If the prototype exists by 2029 and we assume production by 2030, that's a ten-year-old plen
>>555918206but you DO have the money to buy the damn game is what i'm saying. Now if they use Denuvo you will be punished for it.
>>555918079>X-02BI can see this>Delphinus III. Still manages to be the ugliest top tierYou take that back right now!! besides nothing out ugly's THIS plane
>>555918079Infinity put DI as a superplane though?But i mean in general testing some high end experimental shit.Also, the only really ugly thing about the Delphinus series is the straight rudder tail. It looks weird on a plane that is absolutely designed to look super sleek otherwise.
>>555918726>VarcolacFair points anon, but still fuck you for reminding me that flying dick exists
>>555918297If they do that is all the excuse I need to finally buy that PS5 I've been meaning to get for years
>>555918726I didn't even remember that thing existed!!>>555918263Even the Prototype seen in X was kinda dogshit. Not even having any level of Stealth.
Happy weekend, pilots>t. flying dick with sharkteeth
It's not a plane. It's just a flying guitar, guys.
>>555919487>flying guitarHuh so that's what its called
>>555917760The Denuvo anti-piracy isn't the part that worries me. It's whether they'll actually make it online only even if you just want to play singleplaer, and shove in kernal-level anti-cheat, which is far more invasive and resource intensive, because they want to whore lootboxes for online play.
>>555921531>shove in kernal-level anti-cheatMy system literally can't run those considering my motherboard is rather old.
>>555922164>My system literally can't run those considering my motherboard is rather old.anticheat is probably the least of your problems wrt AC8 if your mb is that old...
>>555918726>>555919430The Varcolac would look so much cooler as a flying wing, or maybe as a short-nosed delta.
Once more Zero is complete its been years since I played it last but still just as fun as always. It still has the best ace squad fights. Something I really hope 8 has On a different note has anyone ever paid attention to or read the text when the briefing screen is booting up? I never did till now someone just copied a few lines from generic company paperwork on the screen.
>>555926801I mean I built it in 2017 and it lacks those security features that Battlefield 6 or Windows 11 need so I guess a super fancy kernal level anticheat wouldn't work with it right?
>>555930394What motherboard do you have?
>>555930394If you got a 9 year old system you might not even be able to play 8 at all as even the min specs might be to high. What kind of CPU & GPU do you have currently?
>>555918963I hate that I might do this as well. PC gayming was supposed to be the future, but I'll be damned if I let anti-piracy bots eat my drives alive.
>>555930658ASUS TUF Z270 Mark 2>>555932967Intel i7-7700kRTX 3070 (someone gifted me this)64GB RamYea I was planning towards replacing it around next year but well AI Slop Factories driving up prices to stupid levels means I'll just coast with my existing system until it dies or prices return to something somewhat sane.
>>555936631You could look into getting a used AM4 board and 5000 series CPU, you can reuse your RAM and it should still be a great upgrade. Bonus points if you can get a 5(x)00X3D chip for cheap, they're still killing it in modern titles.
>>555937369AM4 X3D chips are stupidly expensive on the used market now because everyone wants them to extend the life of their AM4 build through the RAM crisis.
>>555937369If we're talking AMD as I frankly am all thumbs trying to figure out the comps as my goal for an upgrade would have been using the PSU/GPU/HDDs for the base of another 10 year build. For plane comp think more like going from Phantom to Eagle (or Eagle to Raptor) instead of say Hornet to Super Hornet I've not really fully thought about this kind of hitting a late DDR4 Motherboard upgrade. But I'd consider it but really I'd be looking to get Ace Combat 8 probably in 2027/2028 considering I sat on getting 7 until around the time of the Advanced Fighters DLC dropped. As I've gotten old I've found buying games has really dropped in priority when I look at the seemingly infinite backlog and the fact that Steam sales are so damn common I can just always wait until the next one.
I am not worried about Denuvo because I'm always one step ahead, Denuvo's existence does not affect me in any way, because, you see, my PC is not powerful enough to be able to run the game in the first place, this renders me immune to Denuvo as I am not able to play any game that uses it in the first place, even if it was free.
>>555941263based
>>555941263Just wait for the slav pirates. It feels weird knowing that repacks and cracks are still relevant in the year of Electrosphere + 27, but I guess they'll have a place for so long as developers keep forcing their audience to download dozens of different audio languages, unnecessary textures, and terrible anticheat mechanisms.
Personally I'm just gonna wait for the 3DS port
>>555936631You might just need a new motherboard buddy. You should be able to use dlss quality or balanced for 8 to ease gpu pressure. Keep in mind 8 will support the latest dlss models. Your cpu is the next limit.
I zoned out after a couple of weeks of being hyped for 8, did I miss anything buddies?
>>555948375yup
>>555948375Some files with weird names appeared on AC8's update history on steam and people are speculating about it
>>555921474Asymmetric V > symmetric V
>>555948910I saw that and went back here to check, but now that I think about it why Zero specifically? I know 5 got bundled in the PS4 preorders for 7 since it Osea plays a big part in the story, so that makes me think a part of Zero would tie directly to 8 god forbid it's Belka again
>>555949571I mean 6 was the preorder bonus for Xbox and all it had in common with 7 was 'big flying aircraft carrier'
>>555945847I'd be down for running lower qualities as well I was originally running 7 on a RTX970 and it looked fine to me
>>555950128I'm aware, I'll just chalk it up to 6 being an Xbox exclusive title. or maybe Zero's popularity (with a certain crowd of Youtuber watchers) might be why it's selected specifically...
>>555951138I really think the latter is why, when 7 came out to me it felt like the big game of the Trinity was 5. Zero was always loved but due to it being released at the tail end of the PS2's life a lot of people never actually got to play it. I myself only played it a few years ago because I could never find a copy, I also paid like 40 bucks for it. Ideally of course I'd like them to release all three PS2 games again but if I have to pick one I think Zero is the best choice overall.
>>555950770At least you have a 30 series card, I'm stuck with a 1050 mobile GPU. At this point I might better off getting a PS5 than building a PC, but either way I don't have the money.
>>555860054FUCK that! I want Naval TDM and Ring Battle PVE with some PVP elements with plane levelingRIGHT.NOW.
>>555952046Hell if I wasn't gifted a 30 series card during like either '20 or '21 I'd probably would still be rolling the 970 until pretty much everything couldn't run it.
>>555949571They already re-released 5 so they have the emulation and widescreen support for the AC5 engine. Doesn't require them to make another emulator for the AC4 engine. I don't think it has anything to do with the plot of AC8 (except for Belkans, its always Belkans), I think it's just about being the only way Project Aces could make a rerelease for modern hardware without dealing with the plane licensing issues.
>>555952573tf is ring battle
>>555956428A PVP mode where instead of killing the other players, you flew through rings to score points. But you could still shoot the other team down to deny them rings. It was fun.
Superman 64 continues to inspires devs to this, truly a masterpiece that the world wasn't ready for
>>555954823Zero is also the least played out of the holy trinity as well despite being the franchise's most famous entry.
the only reason you rate AC4 above 5 and 0 is that it was one of babby's first PS2 games5 and 0 do every single aspect of gameplay better than 4, only in narrative style could you say 4 is superior since that's purely a matter of taste
4fags are the 3fags of the real games
>>555954823But when you look at the plane selection not much has changed Draken shouldn't be a problem seeing as Gripen is always in. I bet it has to do with some ass who's in charge of that single last remaining office cubicle that is the Panavia corporation.
>>555960684IIRC it's actually the American companies that are the worst about this with the most restrictive licensing terms aside from China/Korea who absolutely do not want anything that could imply their planes are flown by bad guys
>>555956428It was kino and I miss it. Ace Combat 7 multiplayer is such garbage I hate it. Infinity built off of 6 and AH with its gamemodes and 7 was just like, "keeeek, eight players and two modes with 5 maps, we barebones now babeee"
>>555958649>>555958649>5 and 0 do every single aspect of gameplay better than 45's superior flight model is bogged down by worse gimmick missions, lack of supply lines, and plentiful respawning enemies. The latter two cause scenarios where the mission can't be completed because the player ran out of ammunition, and the wingmen aren't all that good at completing objectives.
>>555962653Kill ground TGTs with guns where possible and instruct wingmen to kill air pestsThe only mission where you could possibly run out of ammo before completing the objective is that big deser operation
>>555961213The only US plane in Zero that didn't show up in 7 was the F-5, F-20 & EA-6. A-6 will be in 8. The F-5 has been flown by villain factions as a stand in Mig in movies since the 80's. While in every game US planes are always on both sides of the war.It can't be any of the US companies it has to be Panavia its the only thing that makes sense.
Project Aces should really just pull a Project Wingman and slightly modify the names of real world aircraft. Then they don't have to worry about licensing. Everyone wins.
>>555962653>The latter two cause scenarios where the mission can't be completed because the player ran out of ammunition,Untrue I have completely ran out of ammo on Desert Arrow and completed the mission by having my wingmen take out the mission update AWACS and tankers
>>555963630Yes, did that 27 years ago
>>555958649I prefer 4's missions over 5 and don't mind the different flight model, I find it even more fun in some situations, like in close in dogfights with guns. 4 is just a better paced campaign experience for me.
It bothers me how quiet the player plane's engines are in these games, especially in 7
>>555964006Would the game still get on legal trouble if you name your notf15 the F-15X Ultra Eagle III or something? Its still implying the plane is a Eagle, just some fictional variant of it.
>>555963243>>555963775Desert Lightning was legitimately the mission I had in mind when typing about running out of ammo. Watching Wardog fail to knock out a few red ships and SAMs for like five minutes or however long you have after the mission update is one reason I really appreciate checkpoints.
>>555966092I think because you'd still be using the F-15, it would count as something licensed. F/EU-15 would probably be better, legal wise. >>555966092
>>555965825it is very funny that the audio for the nozzle petal actuators is louder than the actual jet exhaust in 7
>>555963630PA wants the official brand endorsements because its something you do not see much of in videogames outside of autism sims. They also get access to facilities and environments for research that most videogame devs will never get to see.
>>555968358This is very true how many other people get personally invited by BAE to just come check out the planes
>>555969071The official twitter account for Gripen actually posted an AC7 short featuring the Gripen E during the run up to launch.
So does it actually look like a 2026 release or is it going to be delayed? Japs never release when they say they are, even AH was delayed from what I remember.
>>555970998Did not know this can you find this old tweet?>>555971268It seems to be on track but they just list it as 2026 so as long as its released by Dec 31th 2026 its still on schedule.
>>555961610Development hell prease undastando
>>555975053Its been a while since i play Touhou, i should do it now i have a windows pc again
mace combat
sacy combat plain game
>>555979895Convinced that the distant past of Strangereal is some Fire Emblem shit.
>>555984143medieval superweapon and it's just a gun
>>555984143I bet Alicorns were real at one point in Strangereal.>>555984465>final boss is flying a Da Vinci plane
>>555984143>Excalibur is a real sword and the laser tower is deliberately designed that way to invoke the legendsI wish. That would be badass
>>555984627>Stonehenge was a really big catapult
>>555984830Imagine if it was just LITERALLY Stonehenge. Like the rocks were magical and shot lasers.
>>555985757fucking usean druids keep zapping my peasant levies
>>555984595>AlicornsI bet the golden king had one its how he united the lands death from above.>Da Vinci planeOnce you got the hang of it that thing was fun to use in the AC. The tank was also great I could just run over enemy troops in the middle of fighting another tank.
>>555986189The Demon of Razgiz was a real knight and she did wear armor like that into battle.
>>555984465behold, the glider carrier
>>555987287Excellent workNow how does the hero fight it?Fly towards it with the Alicorn and shoot Flaming arrows or land on and switch to guns sorry sword
>>555987976>Now how does the hero fight it?have to take out the ballista on top before needing to do a sword run through the middle to split the platform supports from the wing revealing the wing to be a wyvern you have to then fight
>>555984627the first king of Belka
Are you retards literally only now realizing the medieval shit in the games? The fucking thing was called the round tableYou "people" are so stupid, this is what happens in Osean schools I suppose
>>555993583I want Verusean "people" off my board
>>555993583>>555994116These posts were made by professional instigators. Do not fall for their lies.
I still don't get why Belka nuked themselves>dude they're like knights bro they didn't want invaders to have their land broExcept fictional knights would never kill themselves or destroy their kingdom, they'd fight to the last
>>555994736They nuked the cities on the North-South border because they were in narrow mountain passes and it was a way of strategically denying those routes to the Osean/Yuke/Allied armies.
>>555994982>They nuked the citiesDid they? With casualties being as low as that I figured they didn't nuke anything of note.
>>555995089Yes but what I'm saying is that goes against the whole Belkan knight narrative thing
>>555994982Were they some of the cities that surrendered to the allied forces as they invaded? I always thought it wasn't anything strategic, just insanely petty shit by the Belkan government.
>>555995157Ace Combat 5 specifically notes that 7 Belkan cities on the border were nuked.
There is something weird about the disconnect from military invention appreciation and the harsh realities of war that AC never really addressesI just think it's dishonest, but definitely not intentionally so, for a series to call war futile and pointless and only causes unnecessary deaths etc etc, then also go "woah check these sick planes bro check these awesome bombs and missiles"I mean I'm sure I'm not the first one to make this observation but it's still true
>>555995853But then why not nuke the invading forces capital, show them Belka stronk
>>555995465It was strategic because Belka was getting rolled and wasn't going to last another month. It's a batshit insane strategy and it caused an internal civil war (Pops/Huckebein defected over it and you see Belkans shooting other Belkans in the mission where it happens in ACZ) but the point is that the people who gave the order cared more about ensuring that Nord Belka at least remained independent than preserving the lives of their citizens.
>>555995904That's what V2 was for. They did not have ICBM-deployable nukes outside of that.
>>555995550>>555995157I think whoever wrote the story just lowballed the numbers and nobody questioned it.
>>555997842Or maybe it was a typo/mistranslation. Maybe it was supposed to be 10 million. Maybe they were 10 Belkan villages or towns or something, in strategic passes as anon said. Either way 10 full-sized cities with only 10,000 deaths is unlikely to have been what they were actually intending to portray.
Getting VERY anti-belkmetic in hereFirst it was "oh Belka was lying about the 10 million", then it's "oh as if it was 10 cities", soon enough it's "Belka was lying about the whole thing"
>>555998068No, it's in the CGs. I think it's just that Ace Combat doesn't really think about scale and did a bit of retconning from AC5 to ACZ
>>555998706To play devil's advocste, it could be a low-balled immediate death count. If we're being REALLY generous and assume the nukers were aiming to create a nuclear border and not just blowing up cities on chokepoiints, it's possible that the death toll (minus the "surviving" dead-when-found and others who will die after the blast) from blasts near smaller population cities could be low if they only try to count "confirmed" deaths and leave "missing" out of the estimate. Regardless the Belkans are insane and it's a wonder how the decadent Osean capitalist pigs could put up living next to them for so long.>>555998068BELKA DELENDA ESTELKADELENDAEST
>>555999559Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morels are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a six cents when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the fax. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.
I'd like to see an alternate timeline AC where Pixy won. Sorta like how Zelda with OoT did it or Gundam X.
>>556002980That leads to humanity's extinction given that V2 nuking everything would preclude the development of Stonehenge to break apart Ulysses 1994XF04.
>>556002980>I'd like to see an alternate timeline AC where Pixy wonLarry must've put in a lot of training hours on the Morgan since Cipher in an Eagle can end his ass in less than a minute.
>>555998068Even the lowball estimates for Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined are over 100k and that's with bombs that have a comparitively small blast radius compared to what late Cold War era nukes could do. Assuming the nukes in Strangereal followed a similar technilogical progression as they did IRL. I took a look at my copy of Aces at War and while it doesn't mention the casualty number, it specifically says seven towns. I know town and city can be pretty interchangable, but at least by Japanese definition a town has at least 10k people and at most 50k people, but it's an informal distinction. So to be as charitable as possible, if all seven towns that were destroyed were very small, with maybe one town of 10k people, it could work. It also says 'over 12000' in the news broadcast, which implies that is the minimum casualty count. I think it'd be reasonable to say the actual figure is closer to 20-30k.Now to be an asshole, this is why when writing fiction you should be very careful about giving hard numbers, because autistic nerds WILL overthink every minute detail you give them. I imagine they just picked a number that sounded horrible enough, or maybe they were just ignorant of exactly how much damage even one nuke can do. I kinda doubt that though given that Japan is the only country that's ever been nuked.
>>555995157Most of the civilians probably saw the writing on the wall and were fleeing the cities by frankly any means possible. Half emptied cities which probably had a prewar population probably 50k at most drove down casualties from those directly killed in the nukings. Remember most cities aren't having six digit populations. We don't even know if they were ground bursts aiming for irradiating the terrain down wind as well or air bursts for the most destruction of the cities. There's the possibility of also chunks of the populous having gotten air raid warnings (for the incoming fighters going after the bombers) and gotten to hardened shelters and surviving the nukings there. Also the Kill Count may be low because that's the estimates of those directly killed and not those who would succumb in a few years to cancer or other !FUN! things tied to exposure to fallout
>>556008180I do like that the Morgan is kind of a piece of shit, since it's a prototype. The concept needed more refinement which is what would eventually lead to the Falken.
>>556008382I mean the population between between City and Town is pretty much numberwang when it comes down to it. And I wouldn't put it past it that Osean JSTARs if they could get enough radar distance probably saw every road out of those cities full of vehicles going AWAY from the front while the amount of vehicles coming towards it (likely military) suddenly drop off in the days before the bombing. People ain't dumb. Propaganda may be saying Oseans are being beaten but when you're seeing soldiers going the other way and starting to dig in ahead of your city/town you know shit's going bad and it's time to bail.>>556008459Morgan comprised everything for the damn TLS mount. Like it's DO NOT EVER EXCEED G limit was 7Gs because of the damn Laser mount. And the amount of drag that damn thing had along. Pixie would have been better off dumping the thing if possible so he could actually get more mobility out of the plane.
pixy is dision
I'll do what my Captain asks - kill fifty men.
So Pixy started AWWNB and somehow stole Morgan, or did he build it from a Belkan prototype?
Pixy was killed in an ISAF airstrike some time after the Continental War
>>556021012Hello, captain Torres, I am going into battle and I want your strongest sheets.
>>556021363GORIP THE WINGS OFF THAT DEGENERATE
>>556021058Pretty sure he didn't start it, but was in on it somewhere during the initial part of the game.And considering AWWNB had soldiers and mercs from all over the place, it comes to reason shit was stolen from whereever. Hell, given how Belka operates, Morgan could have been a secret design that was being worked on in the Avalon damn itself and simply came as a nice extra when they took it over.
>Solo Wing Pixy>plane has two wings
>>556021716It's because he flies solo you r-tard
>>556021750cipher thinking this and having an "all your friends have a secret group chat without you" moment and getting weirdly clingy and awkward around pixy
>>556021750>flies most of the game as your wingman>listens to you and actually comes to enjoy our companyPixy is just a tsundere. Tsundere wing Pixy.
Also I didn't really get Pixys side switching>sees the damage war causes over belka>thinks the concept of borders are to blame>hijack morgan and laser the fuck out of some random pilot (that being you)Zero was a clusterfuck of nonsense, how is it that even 5 made more senseAlso also it should've had the cojones to lean further into the Spanish theme, instead there's like one team with the theme, one mission with the guitar music and the final missionIt was quarter baked, and not even cleverDude Sapin and their flag is a bull being stabbedALSO ALSO all Spaniards are drunken lazy cowards because they drug the bull, damage it severely, THEN release the matador, it's a total rigged gameBut I digress
>>556022114He literally explains the motivation during the duel?War bad = we just nuke everything and start anew.
>>556022346He really should be mad at politicians though, his anger has no real target, it's just meaningless nonsense like anarchist punksHe needed to have bombed the Osean government or something to send a message
>>556022114It was just PTSD. Pixy got mindbroken by the events of Hoffnung and the 7 nukes - along with his place in them - and fell in with the first group that could give him an answer. Happens all the time with members of extremist groups, it's why they're all filled with nutcases.
>>556022439You could argue that "people who elected said government" are also partly to blame.
Yes, all extremist groups are stupid and filled with insane nutjobs, do NOT research their plans, motivations or reasons, do NOT seek out discussion with these nutjobs, they are definitely all crazy and have no good ideas ever
AWWNB was just an OIA ploy baiting disgruntled war veterans into continuing the war so Osea could justify annexing South Belka "for peace and stability," and the whole thing was orchestrated by the Gray Men before the war even started in the first place
I wanna play AC8...
ve do not do zat, IN BELKA
in belka, ve have zis thing called
vhy do you rely on mute autistic pilots rather zan poverful superveapons, like ve do, IN BELKA
A very salty Rafale.
>>556027126very STINKY rafale need a SHOWER
>>556027249Well, she is French...
vhy did you let ze enemy inwade your capital of farbanti? ve do not do zat, IN BELKA
>>556027324It's not her fault she's French.
>Glide Torpedo
>>556029218when you really think about how all modern warfare has devolved into missile carriers and anti-missile missiles, the japanese in ww2 were ahead of the times they just needed to have a guy inside of the "missile"
>>556029398
guys...
>>556045013<<woof>> > < <<woof!>>
Buddy?
I knew Falco 1's canon plane was Apalis but I never knew that when you started a playthrough of Xi, it gives you Apalis and two other superplanes right off the bat.
>>556057261REXREX TREMENDAEMAJESTATIS
>>556031693Everyone acting like Ukraine has radically changed warfare are all fools. It's all missiles.FPV drones? Missiles.Loitering munitions? Missiles.Unmaned vehicles? Missiles.MISSILEMISSILEEVADE
>>556061497I don't even know latin, but the 8th stanza of dies irae is forever burned into my mind
do you think cipher and pixy ever... you know.....?
>>555999559>it's possible that the death toll (minus the "surviving" dead-when-found and others who will die after the blast) from blasts near smaller population cities could be low if they only try to count "confirmed" deaths and leave "missing" out of the estimate.Ah, the Israeli method.
>>555995550Zero retcons a lot. Nobody literally threw their guns down after the nukes fell like in the AC5 prologue, nor was there peace either when a few months later AWWNB does their shit.
How's Ace Combat 6? should i install a xbox 360 emulator to play it? why is not that talked about compared to zero or 5?
>>556072037>How's Ace Combat 6?They took out kings bridge.
>>556071902Zero starts by hammering into your head how there's a lot of unanswered questions and ambiguities around the Belkan War. The way people talk about it in 5 and 7, it isn't hard to feel a bit of mythologizing. Not every line of dialogue should be treated as face value canon
>>556072037BTW don't be like me and be retarded trying to "fix" the cutscenes, they are just literally like that, it's so fucked
>>556072037>How's Ace Combat 6?Pretty much introduces the modern Ace Combat vibe that 7 continues, for better or worse. The gameplay is great with added mechanics like high-G turns, as well as massive scale battles that 7 wasn't able to replicate. The biggest criticism gameplay-wise is the low roster size, because it tried to make up for it with multiple variants of the same planes. It also has a pretty generic main story with hilariously bad cutscenes centered around characters you will never give a fuck about, which 7 did replicate.>why is not that talked about compared to zero or 5?The sole reason why the Holy Trinity is the Holy Trinity is because they're all on PS2, which is widely available second-hand and easily emulated.
But Captain, how come the Belkans had pools and cinemas in the towns they were going to nuke anyway?
>>556072037People didn't wanna buy an Xbox just to play it. The main games were all on Playstation systems up to that point. It's fine, I guess, but good god having to scream across a crowded battlefield to do literally everything for everyone played hell on my nerves.
It's funny how you can see the progression of 0 to 6 and then infinity but after infinity it just goes back to AC4: 2.0. No large battles, no squad commands
>>556072037>why is not that talked about compared to zero or 5?It sold abysmally, afaik it's the only mainline AC title to not break 500k sales. Even AssWhore sold more copies. Turns out making a game from a (at the time) PlayStation franchise an Xbox exclusive was a bad idea, who would have thought?
I wanna see how many reviewers will call AC8 a "return to form" like there has been anything to divert from 7 in the last seven years
>>556073612Well at least it's not the whole "this is a truly unique game in the genre and not like other games", when they have never touched the genreSee JRPGs, see also mecha
>>556073746>see also mechaUnlike most mecha, Neon Genesis Evangelion focuses on the CHARACTERS
You see unlike other mecha, Code Geass uses the mechs as tools in a political narrative
Unlike older mecha series like Mobile Suit Gundam which were just glorified toy commercials,
Before Evangelion: Toy commercialAfter Evangelion: Eva cloneShrimple as that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foI1baadkvkflight simulator.
>>556074542What was his name again?
I don't know enough about mecha franchises to make a good joke. Uh... unlike other shows... Darling in the Franxx... has waifubait
>>556074728It can be applied to a lot, Persona 5 was the latest massive exampleApparently it's different to other JRPGs because....uhh......well uh.... I like it, but don't like other JRPGs so this one is magically different somehow
>>556074654irate joshua
>>556074728You did okay because uhhhh... like nearly all mecha anime have that???
personally i'm looking forward to the coming wave of "REAL FIGHTER PILOT REACTS TO ACE COMBAT 8" content
>>556071902I wouldn't really call that retconning, it's more that AC5 gets told from the perspective of a bunch of peaceniks who decided to join the air force and aren't privy to the (explicitly covered up shit) that happens after the Belkan surrender in June 1995
>>556073481Counterpoint: Idolm@ster survived
>>556079695and yet the erodoujin market for planefuckers is nonexistent unfortunately
>>556079957It got sniped by the boatfucker market anon, i'm sorry
>>556080549>It got sniped by the boatfucker market anon, i'm sorrybreh still thinks kancolle is relevant in the big two-six, time for your prune juice nigga
>>556080549they may have quantity but the gunfuckers have the quality imo
>>556079695That's because Idolmaster is kino as fuckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g79wV5JVrnc
>>556080736>prune juicewhere the fuck do you think we are? our golden trilogy is all old enough to drink
In those days we had giant TVs, called CRTs, and you'd play your PS2 by connecting it to the TV. Gimme an audio cable and a visual cable you'd say, as was the style at the time. Now in those days, you'd have AV cables and component cables, but no one could afford a component CRT and component cables, so we all just played using AV. Then we'd load up our games and enjoy them, as was the style at the time
>>55608168480 percent of the fanbase was introduced via 7 doebeitever
>>556081941>kids these days don't know about the ketchup mayo and mustard plugs
The release of Ace Combat 5 is closer to the moon landing than it is to the current day.
>>556080549I'm glad there never was a big planefucker gacha, I would have whaled the fuck out on that. Which means it's my duty to MAKE one, but un(?)fortunately I have no talent. The F-4 would be be T0 because the Phantom is my hagwife.>>556081941Speaking of I really gotta get a component cable for my PS2, even on a smaller TV the games look like washed out ass.
how time flies
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana
I don't get it. However, Ace Combat video game franchise.
>>556087857>fruit flies like a bananaheh. i like that.
>>556087692>The F-4 would be be T0 because the Phantom is my hagwife.BASEDBASEDBASED
It might be sacrilege to post this in the plane general, but does anyone have recs for any fun AC style helicopter games? By AC style I mean the games are actually fun and exciting, not simulatorshit
>>556093262Assault Horizon
>>556093394No seriously
>>556093428Assault Horizon
>>556093428GTAO
>>556093428Thunderstrike: Operation Phoenix. Every other helicopter game I can think of is a Desert Strike style isometric shooter.
>Assault HorizonVery kino.
>>556093262its old, but Comanche 4
I wanna take a Gripen out back behind the old Swedish red barn and go for a RUT so damn hard that the spilled hydraulic fluid kills all the plants and grass. Her cockpit will be so damn shiny a damn squishy inferior bird will hit the canopy at ground level. also bump
>>556106384Whenever you fly it's a flying faggot lole
This is what V2 was for.*drops pants*
What does that have to do with Ace Combat?
Weapon release.
>>556080736azur lane's still going decent on the r-18 front
I literally cannot tell the boatfucker games apart.
>>556090003>danger electric shock, hands off after landingwhystatic?
>>556127069The other three branches would ritualistically commit suicide rather than let the army have meaningful fixed-wing aviation.
Muammar Gaddafi isekai'd into Strangereal
>>556128906Air Force should reunite with the Army. Like the good old days
>>556127069>army requests their own F-35 variant>it has to be rotary wing or else the air force and navy will secede >F-35 development costs an additional hundred billion and does not enter service until 2038
>>555356720I really hope that AC8 doesn’t just focus on fighter aircraft. I want more bombers too, like the B-21 Raider.I also hope that missile evasion is actually a challenge this time
>>556134945Same, hell even those small propeller combat airplanes would be cool. I know AC is not DCS, but quirks are part of the fun
Osea killed isekai Muammar Gaddafi because he was about to form the United States of Usea
>>556134945Flying a big slow bomber is not fun.
>>556129698>>556136370why are you trying to force a memeit's cringe bro stop it
>>556144117Yeah, but people keep crying about the Intruder to come back when the Thunderbolt II already covers all the same bases just better armed.
ded bred
plenes
>watching a video about the plane crash that killed Greg Biffle>the graphic representing the flight path looks like a penisGotta say I'm proud of myself, I was able to keep myself from laughing.
>>555989785The king has returned
I wouldn't mind the Draken showing up in AC again, it's a fun shitplane.
Hmm a Kfir and a Hawker flying side by side that must be an odd sight to see
>>556160656They must have just started a new playthrough and are intercepting Tu-95's over the Gulf. I didn't know planes like this used Gulfport as an airport, shame I don't live closer or I could have watched the dorito take off.
>>556160578It's a fun early game plane and lets them add another Zero skin since it's the "canon" plane.
>>556161930I'm going through Zero for my big framchise replay now with a Soldier run just so I can get that skin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwoTXnQfupk<<It's time.>>
>>556157932
>>556172584Kino as always. Also surprised to see Falcon in the credits at the end, and while looking up the Slo_Mobius_Studios guy to see if his AWWNB patch design was for sale I found this DCS animation he did of Hoffnung https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwR6znAFk4g
do you think the first mission in 08 will involve intercepting bombers
>>556174879Yeah I watched that Hoffnung animation recently, pretty well done. The shots of the Belkan troops abandoning the city were really good. Btw did you find if that patch is for sale?>>556175384Potentially. I could see them doing the first mission as an intercept, making the FCU feel like it has a chance before the next few missions culminate with you get shotting down and winding up on the Endurance. Or alternatively the first mission could be the invasion of Theve like 6 opens with Gracemaria falling.
>>556172584Pure kinoHaving just beat Zero again Sunday makes it all the better as the entire battle is still fresh in my mind>Sees the TLS detach>Ground battle with Belkan troops in itits the small details that really sell it.
>>556176114>>556176114>Yeah I watched that Hoffnung animation recently, pretty well done. The shots of the Belkan troops abandoning the city were really good. Btw did you find if that patch is for sale?No, it's not. Looks like Slo has been mostly quiet on social media for a while on top of that, his last youtube video was in March '22, and last reddit (and I think instagram as well) posts were also from then as well. He did retweet one of Nasault's progress updates on the Zero animation back in August last year, and the AC8 trailer as well, so I'm guessing he just lurks these days. Maybe one of the patch sellers like Razgriz or the guy who ripped off Razgriz might be able to get in touch for permission to do a custom run of it, but it'd be pretty niche.
>>555782508i would really appreciate if it acz is a standalone release and not tied to pre-orders like 5 and 6 were (if they already bothered to port those games into ps4/xbox 1 why not just port them to current system too)>denuvo
>>556185135That requires some work to make the compatible. For 5 all they had to do was add and HD HUD and text put in an emu and done. For 6 all they had to do was use MS 360 emu and done. If this Zero really is the game itself then it requires actual work to port it to PC. If its the game and not a preorder bonus then think of it as test run to see if its worth it to bring the others to PC.
>>556185930I don't know if they should really be speculating on these things after 7 became the best selling game in the franchise by a wide margin and 8's reveal had near universal praise. Legacy ace combat games will sell if you put them in new systems, maybe do it after 8 comes out so you don't clog your marketing.the franchise is in a completely different place now when compared to 2019
That AWWNB emblem looks sharp. Anyone got a good pic of it?
>>556186264its prob a preorder exclusive so that they can get around thorny licensing issues since they're not actually "selling" zero itself, just bundling it as an extra alongside 8
>>556187064From 2021 https://x.com/Hrow_Imaizumi/status/1445903912805052421
>>556186264This anon >>556187398 is right I also think it'll be a preorder. But on the off chance its not I would expect the bean counters to still want proof the old ones would sell and Zero would be the test and the answer is naturally yes it'll sell but still.
>>556187612Does make you wonder why Morgan didn't have a AWWNB emblem on it somewhere instead of just Belkan markings same for the XB-0
>>556190009AWWNB seemingly didn't have an actual emblem given all the other non-Belkan members didn't strike their national colors either. Although that's also probably because it was easier to texture it that way too. That said if someone made waterslide decals of it, you could put it on the Morgan model kit.
>>556190009used up all the paint on the wing
>>556190191Oh I agree about it when it comes to the mook fighters and stuff but more special stuff like XB-0 and Morgan should have had it since those are both single use models and could have been done when you made the skins for those two units. You could have even included the emblem on the briefing screen so the player could see it nice and clear. PA usually goes the extra mile in details you never notice like tail codes on enemy mooks in AC4 or all the stuff they packed into 7. Feels like a big missed opportunity.
>>556178212Starscream in Ace Combat sounds like a bad time. But with how much he likes betraying people he'd fit in well.
normalfags are experiencing Ace Combathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlLkTYLwl3U
>>556193690It's probably just something they didn't think of at the time, after all they were developing Zero concurrently with 6. Zero's a really funny game like that where it's near perfect but has these little tiny if only things here and there.>>556193745Starsceam would probably be considered an honorary Belkan.>>556194232Oh cool, they do some awesome covers.
The thread is so much better when the samefagging shitposter isn't here.
>>556198913Fair enough, Zero also has an audio glitch. If you have the audio set to surround then the audio for Briefings comes out of the real speakers while all other voices across the rest of the game comes from the center.>Fighting Grun>Ignores them completely evading attacks from them like nothing>Focus on the named Tornado pair and remaining mook>Pixy says I'll get the last one>Toys with it so Pixy can shoot down the last Grun plane>Well they wanted to pick a fight with the Demon lord what did they think was going to happen that they had a chance or something.
>>556079590Is this from the same artist or did that become an accepted fan design for Cipher?
why do i hear flamenco music
>>556190009It's because AWWNB is just a fig leaf for Belkan revanchism.>DURR WE WANT A WORLD WITHOUT BORDERS so that us spending 50% of our GDP on weapons development for the last 20 years and launching an unwinnable war doesn't have consequences for us
>>556187746zero seems like a logical choice since one of the most popular ones.i'm worry it will just remain as a pre-order bonus like 5 and 6 wereI mean cod 4 remaster was a pre-order bonus but later became a stand alone game
>>556190009I've always just assumed that they retained the markings they had before AWWNB went above board, since both the XB-0 and Morgan were being cooked up before that.That being said, retrospectively the Morgan would make the most sense to have unique markings since they managed to give it a whole Pixy paintjob just in time for Avalon.
>>556198913Half the time Starscream just fucks things up from his own ego, he's not quiet enough to be a Belkan.>President Harling has been kidnapped!>I STARSCREAM AM YOUR NEW LEADER!
I don't think we reached a point where they can release a big expensive game with zero worries because it will be in the top 5 sellers of the year.But I think we are past the point where we need to count our quarters to see if we make ends meet
>>556217792Erusea, because they keep betraying the rest of Usea.
>>556198913They did a full album of Ace Combat Covers
>>556217792A COUP ON THE DAY OF THE TREATY SIGNING
>>556217792Omega 11
They're firing indiscriminately!
Why hold international law so dearly?
Don't die.
>>556244790something something /aceg/ as a dark demon rains shit all over /vg/ and then it diesshikashi, after a period of ded thred (and when 8 comes out)/aceg/ returnsthis time, as more or less the same thing
>>556246939i miss her so much bros
Just beat the Frontline-59 DLC for PW, and I have only one thing to say.FUCK Cascadia and FUCK those mercenary dogs. If they ever make a PW2(impossible) I hope they actually let you pick sides so that I can fly as a Federation pilot and wipe every single cascadian and mercenary off the face of the earth. I can't believe I let those fucking non-combatant landers live in mission 5, I'm gonna destroy them all during my Mercenary difficulty playthrough.
>>556251805Crimson One pls
>>556251805Is this you? As that sounds like you
>>556253107>>556254726Crimson One did nothing wrongNOTHING WRONG
>>556253107>>556254726>>556255830I think C1's heart was in the right place, but he couldn't have picked a worse moment to do what he did. His hatred was justified, but he let it cloud his judgement.
>>556256491No, C1 and the feds loose all credibility and being right the moment they Orange'd first.
>>556255830He started a second apocalypse and blew up a city because he got owned so hard. Motherfucker did EVERYTHING wrong.
My honest opinion on the whole Cascadia-Federation conflict is that, at the start of it I think Cascadia had every reason to rebel against the Federation, and it was completely justified, but, at the end of the conflict, I think the situation in Cascadia could end up in something even worse than the Federation emerging from it. Cascadia becoming a mercenary haven, and the whole thing with the deal, it could lead to the appearance of a mercenary state of unimaginable power led by a bunch of bloodthirsty mercs. At that point, for me it turns into a "better the devil you know" thing, yeah, the Federation is bad, but I do not like the way things seem to be going in Cascadia, so if I absolutely have to pick a side post PW's campaign, I'll choose the Federation.I think the most ironic thing that could happen is that Cascadia, after freeing itself from the Federation, and perhaps even defeating the Federation is the next war against it, it then gets its government overthrown by a new Mercenary Cabal, and finds itself once more under the yoke of a new tyrant. It used mercs to earns its freedom only to lose it again at the hands of those same mercs.
>>556255830>>556256491>shows up late to EVERY fight he participates in>loses EVERY single time>disobeys orders and drops MULTIPLE NUKES on his OWN homeland because he's malding so hard>despite everything fails to kill even a SINGLE mercenaryCrimson One is a joke and should have followed Dip's advice to just shut up. Meds and psychotherapy would've done wonders for him.
>>556260668That's why you never trust mercs. Never know when they'll realize that they could just decide that they're the boss now. After all they got all the guns.
Honestly I like that Crimson 1 is just completely retarded. Is it good writing? No lol all of his lines are fucking ridiculous, but it's very very funny that Monarch mindbroke him so hard he started a second apocalypse. None of this would have happened if the Feds had just sent in Steel Squadron.
>>556277193>None of this would have happened if the Feds had just sent in Steel Squadron.Steel Squadron jealous about being second fiddle yet again? Predictable.
>>556275220Given how bad of a shape the place is in you have nothing to rule over but rubble. While other nations are paying the big bucks to get a pound of flesh out of the Feds
Also speaking of PW, back when it released I was under the impression that the Calamity occurred in the 1600's or something. Apparently it happened in the early 20th century with the implication that Teddy Roosevelt was the last President of the US. Is that a retcon or was that always the case? I>>556280915If their squadron commander wasn't the prince of not-Mongolia they would havs sent them in.
I simply would not have allowed the deranged obsessive access to weapons of mass destruction
I simply would have allowed the deranged obsessive access to weapons of mass destruction
I am sorry, but pinning your entire national defense strategy on the spontaneous manifestation mute ace pilots who have achieved CHIM is not a practical or reliable doctrine. Napoleon was the French Talos and all they had to do was launch more than one offensive at once.
>>556288894i dont know man, it seems to happen a lot, every kalpa has one
>>556290361Reliance on CHIM pilots requires you to be lucky every single war, while the enemy only has to be lucky once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfqUiDvI7EQDude I fucking love airplanes
>>556290557all war is luck, and just because the enemy has a walking one of the ways, does not mean another dreamer cannot appear when the wheel turns once more
obviously the solution is to use a combination of experimental drugs and brainwashing on orphaned children to induce CHIM and manufacture and entire army of supersoldiers
>>556290856Something about bubble canopies just make flying look unreal.
>>556293707I don't get why even after the advent of bubble canopies all the way back in WW2 aircraft designers kept going for those massive ultra thick canopy frames that blocked half of the view in front of the pilotWas it to be able to put bulletproof glass in there?
plain plane on a plane
>>556294545So the cockpit wouldn't shatter at the speed jets could do.
>>556294545I'm not sure honestly, maybe bubble canopies are ultimately more expensive than segmented glass canopies? I mean even now a lot of aircraft have semi-bubble canopies where they still have supports, the F-35 for example. >>556296914Then why do the F-22 and F-16 have a total bubble while the F-35 and F-15 don't?
>>556297168Oh I was just shitposting. But a real answer is I think it has to do with production cost as you have to make the cockpit very thick plus HAVE glass ain't cheap either.
AC7 is one of the free games for ps+, does it have crossplay?
>>556299105No never did
>>556282425>If their squadron commander wasn't the prince of not-Mongolia they would havs sent them in.Classic Steel Squadron cope. Leave the REAL fighting to Crimson Squad CHADS while Steel Squadron BASEDBOYS putz around doing "mainland defense" during a war fought on ENEMY TERRITORY. Wouldn't want his highness to dirty his pretty princess dress.But really I can totally see Crimson One being a pompous asshole to his own allies. Dude's such a cocky fuck he regularly gets his own squad ganked by there mercs because he's too prideful to retreat.
>>556302905I can see why, since Crimson is the elite of the elite. And he's the top. If Peacekeepers were Elite Ops, then Crimson is Tier One or even more. Still don't justify his shitty behavior, but I can see why he develop such personality
The S Rank Ace Banished From The Singularity's Squadron Out For Revenge!
>>556298854Not him, but it’s also because of the way the ejection seats function. Those 4 planes mentioned have different variations of ejection seat with their own thrust coefficient that’s has to fit within the space available. Some are single stage or multi stage. But weight of glass and it’s cost is the main factor.
Think we'll finally get some Su-30's as mook enemies in 8 instead of being restricted to boss units?
>>556312971Yeah probably.
>>556312971su-57s will be the snowflake big baddie plane (especially since there aren't any 6th gens avaiblable and the j-20 was not allowed)I'm worried the roster will be exactly the same as 7s
>>556314629We know it isn't "exactly" the same as 7's but between the F/A-18C in the trailer and mentions of the A-6 there's a high likelihood that new planes are more oriented towards the past than anything new.I quite like my early-to-mid Cold War-era planes so I don't mind, but I can see how people might end up miffed by the fact that high-end options are probably gonna stay stuck at the Raptor, Felon and YF-23.
>yfw the 08 roster is all carrier planes
>>556314629I expect everything we had in 7 including DLC planes + some returning planes from older gamesA-6 is in so I expect the EA-6 to show up. Since we're on an old carrier might be nice to have some older carrier jets A-4, A-7 F-8 maybe even the S-3
>>556315802Other than the current version of Tempest the game already has all the high end planes that exist IRL. Doesn't mean we won't have high end Strangreal planes. I still say this is the perfect game to add in all of the real world planes form 3 as highend. While the X originals are as they were before all across the board.Lets be honest here we all want to engage Shadow squad with a full team of Fenrir's Or style on them with a full team of Nav Hawks.
The F-16 will be a low-tier starter plane again and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>556200591Can i get some info about that?
>>556315918>>556315802since the theme for 8 is going to be naval aviation they should finally get off their asses and put the harrier, yak-141, yak-38 in the game.modern additions are extremely limited outside of the su-75, especially after getting no from korea and china and 6th gens being vaporware.so the only choices are older aircraft and stuff that was featured in previous games but not in 7tfw the hal tejas is in
>>556316834>yak-38KONO ADD MY PRECIOUS ADORABLE LITTLE FORGER WITH HER CUTE STUBBY WINGS AND I WILL PLEDGE MY FAMILY TO YOU FOR 1000 YEARS
i kinda want dedicated asw planes, at least for a mission, dropping sonar buoys and depth charges, that would be coolalso rocket interceptors and other silly experimental planes
>>556317121yak-38 and harriers are a strange omission for the franchise, like the mig-23 or the su-24
>>556316530Personally speaking I don't care much for superplanes, but I can definitely see a lot of original planes coming back to fill some holes. I think PA should bring back the ATD-0 from Infinity as a neat 'light stealth fighter' between the mid-tier planes and higher-tier stealth fighters. Plus while all the lasers and magic missiles are cool, I'm fiending for some more conventional OG designs.I've always loved throwing eclectic sets of low-to-mid tier planes at bosses. Tackling the Shadows in a Legacy Hornet is gonna be fun.
>>556316572The F-16C will beThe F-16block 60 can be mid while the F-16V can be a high end or V for mid and Gyrfalcon can be high end.
>>556317347>add vtol planes without functional hovering>everyone is mad at you because they wanna gunship>add vtol planes with functional hovering>everyone is mad at you because going gunship mode gets you killed immediately in a game where your primary means of defense is moving around really fast
I just want the IWBs to function like they did in the older games I hate 07's stupid stealth lunchboxes so much the F-22 has such an erotic profile why would you desecrate her like that
>>556317347Yak's were in 1 & 2 as NPC enemies while Harrier has been in every single game except for 3. >>556317654Harrier was playable......in AH & Infinity
And while we're on the topic of planes we wish to see in AC8, I will continue to lobby for the huezillian turboprop.
>>556318075thats my issue, some of them are regulars but only as enemiesharrier is one of the most well known fighter jets in the world and it's only playable in the black sheep of the franchise and the one that you can't play anymore
still think one of the high moments of my life was realizing you could divebomb UGBs right into the VTOL bases from that one mission in 5
>>556318765You mean 4. 5 has no VTOL base but yes its fun to do FAE are more fun to drop because even if a chopper or Harrier is out of the hole it still dies from the boom.
>>556318281I don't think they will. Japs for some reason care nothing about latam market. I really hope so, its so fun to fly on DCS
>>556319292>we'll base jumpjets out of vertical shafts dug into the mountain! they'll be hidden and protected by simple geometry!the humble dumb bomb:
>>556319989the dumber the bomb the smarter the pilot has to be to make those strikes
>>556320557they say pickle because pickles are the smartest fruit
>>556319989The idea isn't bad the hangers are inside the mountain making them safe from strikes. But it has a big downside if a bomb or cruise missile does make it in the enclosed area then the blast has no where to go and everything dies in a flash.The biggest problem about that entire base is much simpler. No natural fortification will save you from Mobius 1.
Personally I'd like to see us get a few more early Cold War jets like the F-9 Cougar or the Javelin. >>556316834If Worst Korea and China both really said no on having their planes in Ace Combat they can get bent then. >>556317347I'd love to have the Fencer back, it was such a fun plane in Infinity.
>>556324098F-100...
>>556326084The Flying Catfish would be pretty funny to have in game.
>>556318281Oh hey I remember seeing these guys flying around in formation with an A-37, sadly the A-37 got retired a while ago and you can't only see them on a museum (they were still around until 2023).what the fuck is going on with the captcha
Buddys.. the 8 roster will have 2 or 3 additional early aircraft, and 1 or 2 additional mid tier aircraft. But the high end stuff? That will be the same. Maybe SU-75 just maybe. I don’t even think the X craft or Fenrir will be in it.There is too much normie attention on this franchise now, since it has become relatively popular. It’s going to be conservative, and will ride on the coattails of Top Kek Maverick and recent international media.
>>556328928If PA knows what's good for them. They'll include like 20 new aircraft at the very least. And skip the pointless variants too.
>>556331929Sorry buddy. That’s if they know what’s good for /aceg/. We aren’t the popular vote. The stuff we want will be dlc. Which some of us will eventually pay for. Just like we did with 7.
>>556331929Definite "new." There are very few planes worth adding that haven't already been.
>>556333130Go full Airforce Delta with fictional variants.
>>556335406World's longest air intake award.
> Me and my WSO after refusing to use Missiles ever because its for fags
Something in the works. Hopefully it'll be ready for release by the end of the week!
>>556343289Based on this artwork by Lud (@Batookoma).
>>556294545>>556297168What confuses me is why the Japanese went for a three piece canopy for the F-2 instead of the bubble canopy typically used on the F-16.
Don't talk to me or my son ever again
>>556343289>>556343404Looks clean as fuck, anon.>>556344212Well the F-2 is a big girl, it may have been cheaper for them to do a three piece canopy over a bubble. At least the pilot still has really good visibility.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP3Zpox8m5kI really don't know how I should feel about more UCAVs becoming autonomous but I do like the way the MQ-28 looks. It almost looks like a COFFIN plane.
>>556344212it's for birdstrike protection. f2s are expected to go on a low flight profile most of the time since they're doing antiship duties, and the three piece is just reinforcement against it.
>>556347667It's kinda fucked up how birds just disintegrate when they get hit by cars or planes.
>>556348272it's the least shitty way to diewould you rather immediately cease to exist not even knowing what happened, or get mangled and suffer for hours in your broken body until you die
>>556349250Fair point.
Were Wizard and Sorcerer just flights of a very big squadron?
>>556346914Don't worry about it nothing bad could happen from this. Now how about a nice song to forget your troubles?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Ar7eE91cY
>>556336390>Sees thumbnail>A VF-11??>Ok that ain't no 11>searchesAh the cover image for DoDonPachi Blissful Death Re:Incarnation>Japan onlyPredicable
>>556346670Thank you! A slight change of plans, we were able to finish the skin a bit early. Aiming for a release tomorrow, stay tuned!
>>556324098PA is going to troll us and give us the worst jet plane the USN ever flew.
>>556370183If only it flew as good as it looked.
>>556366051it happened twice, fucking japs. My money is not worth anything or what?
>>556379624Japan never makes sense especially when it comes to games. Its not like a market doesn't exist for these games outside of Japan. Steam is full of them this kind of shooters. I guess Japan just really wants you to pirate their games or something.
I hope one of the Super Hornets get LAAM in AC8
>>556383515I expect 4 Hornets so the chances are good
>using the X-02A Wyvern addon modJesus Christ this thing is so fucking fast and maneuverable I was able to stay on Mihaly's during the whole fight in Battle for Farbanti. Very op craft without OP weapons.
Hornethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM6nRxoUErgMore Hornet & longerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynbXOKgwBPo
>>556389661A missile powered missile that fires multiple smaller missile powered missiles, that upon detachment have both the missile and the carrier missile act as homing missiles?
>>556389661Surface Launch Meteor? Seems like that would be awesome for something like NASAMS
>>556370183It'd be a fun joke plane.
>>556390275Yeah they did that in Dirty Pair, Chris did it with her entire armor set in Symphogear we might as well do it in IRL its starting to make more sense these days.
Hi /aceg/, /wtg/ and /simg/ would both like to know what causes Japan to always make the strongest tanks and planes in both real life and video games?
>>556406187Pipe down F-trwoon, before the frogGODs humiliate you again.
>>556406668>frogGODsI don't think you can call anyone a god when they get shot down by this piece of shit IRL.
3 posts so bad they killed the thread.
>>556317347>or the su-24Funnily enough, there was a vid PA released a few months back that showed off an Su-24 on a dev's desk>>556343289I really hope PA takes inspo from the skin mod scene and ups the detail on tailcodes and squadron designations on aircraft textures
>>556406892show more respect towards jeffthe bane of rafales and su-30s
>>556413470But we know what we're getting for the protag skins on each plane. Other skins should have just as much and I would hope they remember what they did in 6 and when using an enemy ace skin your plane number and tail code changes
>>556418243And after double checking even using the enemy mook skin also gave you a new tail code and plane number.
>>556324098A few weeks ago, one of the devs said in a q/a that korean and chinese planes will not be featured due to do not getting a permission from the respective manufacturers (strange because shenyang once send a letter to pa claming to be huge fans of the series), i think the same thing happen with taiwanese planes.you know which countries that manufacture their own aircraft still hasn't denied their participation in the next game?
<< Our lone target is wings. >>
>>556420702That’s funny, I had Wingstop yesterday.
>>556419465>shenyang once send a letter to pa claming to be huge fans of the seriesI get the feeling that was some of the employees not the guys in charge.Korea doesn't make sense you can show off your plane to the world in a fun way. If I had to guess I would say it was more the usual ancient asian hate everyone else in the area that they all have for each other. >spoiler imageWe have joked about those two planes showing up for years I would get a very long laugh if it really happened just because Shenyang and KAI said no and they went elsewhere for new planes to the series.
>>556424342with china i can understand why the top leadership at chengdu and shenyang would say no to putting their aircraft in a japanese video gamekai makes no sense unless if you still take into account xenophobia, i mean saab actually used these games as a way to promote the gripenspoiler image would be funny, it would be a bit of a shame if they don't show up, they could mix things up a bit from the usual suspects
>>556425250That was my only thinking for KAI as well. You would have to be an idiot to pass it it up its free advertising that you get paid for even and unlike China KAI is wanting to sell in the export market
>>556425821>>556425250>>556424342how is it 2026 and you people are still completely clueless that the south korean govt has china tier relations with japan bruh
AC5 is my favorite despite all its flaws. Just fucking love that game bros I can't even explain it.
>>556430481It’s like steak and potatoes, just fills you up with joy and love and purpose.
>>556431067Steak and potatoes is unironically the perfect meal.
Anyone going to pick up Rave Racer when its released?
>>556432148huh? are they re-releasing the arcade game?>just checkedholy shit I didn't expect a home version of it to ever release.
>>556431067>>556431643So how do you prefer your steak, buddies? >so raw it's still mooing, >pretentious medium rare or>it's no longer well done, but congratulations
>>556426217I remember their ratings board flipping a tit over Ryuji in Persona 5 having rising sun designs on his shoes. Funniest part is that Korean gamers seemed to think that was fucking retarded. Kinda like how the CCP got really butthurt at Battlefield 4 but Chinese gamers fucking LOVE it, the campaign for it is a huge meme there.
>>556432657Nor did I it came as a complete surprise today>Come on bamco give me that RR8 with tracks across famous Strangereal locations I wanna race around Stonehenge, do a night race in AnchorHead, race around and under the Lighthouse
>>556435897chinese players also loved kane & lynch 2 when it came outthere was also a big fuss in korea with yakuza 2 kiwami
>>556435628I’m definitely the pretentious medium rare. Larger cut more rare, smaller size more done with maybe a sauce, even just regular A1 could do. Best way for the potato is baked. With a bit of sour cream onion chive and bacon bits. Can I serve it as a sandwich? No, but I’ll eat the whole thing.
>>556435628I've been being all BOO-GEE lately and doing two day marinade -> one day dry brine -> ~hour of reverse sear -> medium rare in a cast iron. I'm not a picky/fussy eater by any means but it's kind of fun going all out, and it's a nice way have a once-a-week big meat treat.
>>556435628I'm on the well done side, I enjoy cooking thin slices; I like boiled potatoes, I usually cut them open and spread either cheese or butter with a bit of parsley, depending of the cheese I tend to not add salt.>>556435920I guess the first Arcade Collection did pretty well to merit a second one, in case someone doesn't remember/doesn't know Air Combat 22 got re-released on the first one.
>>556366460The skins are finished, cooked, and ready for release!
>>556439395Must have that is a good thing we might get some more never released outside of the arcade games again.>>556439681Nice!
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For all their show of strength as "one of world's biggest armed forces", Osea is a big jobber that failed at the last step in conquering Yuktobania
I didn't know there were aggressor F-35s. Nice color scheme.
>>556457748Counterpoint: Osea first makes an amphibious landing on November 1 2010 and they capture Cruik Fortress on December 6 2010. The fuckers take over half the continent in about a month, and since the war only goes from September 27 through December 31 over half of the war occurs while Osea is occupying Yuktobanian clay. I do wish 5 and Zero had a more drawn out timeline for their wars, but the slow burn of the Continental War is part of what makes it so good.
>>556468372The smooth surface area made the planes look fat.
>>556468372we need to bring back the colorful plen of old. Now that BVR and stealth being all the rage, a few splashes of paint wouldn't hurt
>>556435628Why is medium rare pretentious
>>556435628Medium rare, on a grill fueled by coal and with no sauces or any of all that extra bullshit to ruin the taste. I tried going back to other steak cooking methods but last time I did I almost vomited.
>>556458364<<The 8492nd squadron doesn't exist!>>
>>556495649>tfw you do Fortress with an Attacker and get clapped by the 8492nd repeatedly
For my replay of Zero I'm trying to do the perfect Soldier run so I can get both medals. Basically what I need is for the needle to be right in the middle of the meter by the final mission right?
>>556511631CAUTION, TERRAIN
>>556523081Yes. It's fun and stressful at the same time
puddle of mudd reference...
>>556541948>Ever since I went to last week's orchestra concertOh yeah, forgot about that. Did you have a good time concert buddy? Was there a program pamphlet with the setlist?
<<CAUTION>> Three old bandits, spotted on radar.
>>556551501When I finish up my replay of Zero I'm going back to 4, figured I'd save my favorite of the trinity for last.
>>5565521534 is my favorite too. But I like all three for the different styles. I replayed them in the sweltering summer last year. All the way up to 100%. Felt like a kid again with my ice tea.
>>556552939I certainly don't have the patience for 100% but I am gonna do all three routes for Zero. I wish all the games had Assault Records as extensive as that. I am also planning to get the platinum for 5's rerelease since that doesn't require a true 100% clear.
>>556551501That's cool as fuck.I lament trading my old bought used with a bunch of pirated games and very likely mod-chipped PS2 for a PS3 many moons ago, even though emulation has and still does serve me quite well.
>>556553681Nice man! You are one of the few and lucky to have the preorder 5. You are a true fan. Getting cheevos on 5 must hit nice.
>>556555026It's rather nice having 'official' trophies, I know things like RetroAchievements exist but still. The only thing I wish I could have done with my preorder was get the edition that came with the Arsenal Bird model too but I'm happy with my steelbook and Aces at War copy.
3.2 million views in a month and a half
>>556555320I like to think Pixy knows where Cipher is and just fucks with him every couple of years because he thinks it's funny.
>>556555227Very envious that you have Aces at War. And yeah I know what you mean with retro achievements. I can wish, but it will just be pretend. At least with emulating my isos it’s the very same physical code my mom bought for me all those sorties ago. And interacting inside my computer is the very same physical bios from that fat boy PS2. That might be enough, oh heck maybe I will preorder 8. But then I will be lamenting how I missed 7 preorder.
>>556556872Honestly my gripe with it is that it's paperback. Hardback cover for it would have been really nice and stayed together better over the years.
>>556554394Hey it made sense at the time right? PS3 was published having backward compatibility. Many assumed it would be easy and forever just like ps1 to ps2. I wish I still had my ps3 and my little 15 inch CRT and its comfy shitty speakers. Thats cool that you had a mod-chip one.
Gachaslop bump
Jan "Rex" CopeCope
>>556570043>ace of aces>can't singlehandedly turn the tide of battleyeah i'd be coping too
>>556575905>yet ANOTHER enemy is steamrolling your entire continent>no super ace has shown up yet to bail you out yet>lie on soial media that this war's Ribbon Fighter or Three Strikes is totally on the front lines RIGHT NOWFCU? Fully Coping Useans.
Saab Viggen
>>556593593horrible quality, reported
>>556595861>>556593593One of these isn't street legal.
Hello everyone! Sorry for the wait! But the F-15C Eagle -JOUSTERS '88- livery mod is finally here! Based on the phenomenal fan artwork by Lud (@Batookoma on X), this mod transforms your Eagles to the ones flown by the Osean pilots of the famous Jousters Squadron!https://www.nexusmods.com/acecombat7skiesunknown/mods/3499I hope you guys enjoy!
>>556596330damn that's a sexy look
>>556595861don't know whether to save this in my cars folder or plens folder
>>556596818Thank you! We worked very hard on adapting the design as faithfully as possible.
>>556598606I just have a single massive folder called "important" and it's just pictures of planes and cars all named and sorted and pictures of my girlfriend and other loved ones toothese fucking captchas got me moving like tom cruise in that one mission impossible movie
>>556599343What's the plane equivalent of the FD RX-7?
>>556458804Really with the Belkan War, Osea was pretty much waiting for Belka to do the stupid and then pounced on them. As it'd either be the Belkans charging south into Ustio and Sapin or immediately YOLOing at Osea proper and thus Osea was on alert for Belka to make their move, even if some of their agents in Belka were compromised. They probably had an idea what was going on.
>>556555234When in the fuck are we getting more news? I just wanna know if the chance based in game purchases are going to be a con job or just for simple skins.
>>556599649>extremely modern and complex>obese and hated by purists>still most capable in its class>soulless>be G90 M5pic unrelated
>>556596330Shouldn't it be Jouster (singular) to follow the naming scheme of other Osean squadrons?
>>555738578conquest mode with squadron management would be pure kinothrow in ace combat 6's massive battles and you have perfection
>>556611607Imagine Galactic conquest from Battlefront, but in AC. With conquering regions and building basic infrastructure for fund/buff/tech boosts, unlocking new shit for air, sea and land, and then setting up your force roster to tackle enemy assault/garrison in the mission you participate in, as well as other regions that are doing their own attacks/defenses.Never gonna happen.
Is anyone else starting to hate the look or 5th gen fighters after some time? F-22, F-35, Su-57, Su-75, they're all starting to look the same.
