Goat Editionaislop NOT welcome>Useful sites:https://www.wowhead.com/https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Warcraft_Wikihttps://www.wow-petopia.com/index.phphttps://housing.wowdb.com/vendors/>/wowg/ Guilds>NA<GLOBOFOMO>>EU<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>Join the /wowg/ housing community by searching 'wowgee' in the community finder with cross-faction enabled in the search parameters. (NA)Previous Patch:>>555400095
spooky stormwind edition
>>555449336>retard believes everything he reads onlineretard
>>555449391what i would GIVE to have a hot draebae fart on my face
>Hey want to spend days grinding 1500 bullshit, 1000 garbage and 500 fetid shit?>Or do 4 world quests and get the exact same mount Gee, thanks blizz, you fucking hacks.
>>555450048>shit analogy
I don't like this prepatch event
>>555449692The coppers are on the way to retrieve your last butter knife *t-bags you*
>>555450048Uh, you'll find its NOT the same mount, you salty bitch.The new one is Turquoise.
>>555450087Sorry let me put it in terms you'll understand>Ugfh fuck me blizz I am a slut
The event could have been epic and very hyped. I imagined that Xally would launch attacks all over Azeroth, as the teaser suggested.But no, ever since the WorldSoul saga was announced, we've been stuck with something half-baked, buggy, and soulless.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ix-qCh050
I have a max level femgob and femgnome for each class available to them.
>>555450194>TurquoiseIT EVEN FUCKING LOOKS BETTER
>>555450237I sure remember asking.
>>555450194find a flaw in this justification
>need 1 more twilight highlands rare for the mount>it's 2 and a half hours away in the rotationThis event is so gay
>>55545023613.0 is going to be different, trust the plan
Morning anons! How are we doing today? I got an upgrade in my vault, and I plan to check out the pre-patch event today.
>>555450236Everything by the advertising and lead up to this expansion SHOULD have basically had it be Legion 2.0A literal all hands on deck situation, all classes, all major characters, etc. This is a full blown invasion of Void forces on a major capital city, and a big font of power is under siege.But nah, fuck it, call up all the Elves only. Especially those ones that are so Void infused, they could probably be mind controlled at any fucking second and provide them a back door into the city, because the Alliance are fucking retards for letting them exist in their ranks.
>>555450445>Farming the gay pearl version of the same mech we've seen 100 times Gay
>>555450236not a single event bar maybe the wotlk one was something else oth
>>555450691The wotlk one was worse bc the game was literally unplayable with zombies
so what's the best way to farm Blade Insignia's?
my cousin autistic marvin ran headfirst down a stairwell in defiance of his motherhe got a head injurythat will teach the stupid bitch makeing him take vitamins
So what's the heavy hitter spec that really feels like you're murdering some niggas? Retri?
>the only horde characters I even see anymore are blood elvesthis game is a fucking parody of itself
>>555450883enchadcement never, never misses
>Xal'atath: I WANNA KILL AZEROTH.>Dimensius: I WANNA KILL AZEROTH TOO THOUGH.>Xal'atath: HEY! YOU STOLE MY IDEA! I'M TELLING ALLERIA.>Xal'atath: HEY ALLERIA, DIMENSIUS IS GONNA KILL AZEROTH! WE GOTTA STOP HIM.>Alleria: SURE THING, BUDDY.>Dimensius: NOOO, I AM DEFEATED.>Xal'atath: HAHA! IT WAS ALL A TRICK, ALLERIA. I AM GONNA KILL AZEROTH!>Alleria: I ALREADY KNEW THIS, BUT FOR SOME REASON I AM SHOCKED BY YOUR BETRAYAL.>World of Warcraft: Midnight.Bravo, Blizzard! *Throws Roses...*
i just want to say, my warlock fears are interrupted a hell lot less since wa's are gone
>>555451021pvp probably the only thing that got improved with the addon shit.
I have joined the right side of history
>>555451006a grown ass man thought this was a good post... let's leave hyperbolization to kids and women
>>555450549thanks for the blogpost maye!
>>555451306>everyone is mayeWhat a grim world it must be
>>555450883BM hunter
>>555450964surely it has missed a few times
>>555450883Imo Enhancement has always been the full bar to 0 bar fun class
>>555451407a good chunk of ai images and his avatarfagging is maye so can you blame anyone on here
this nigga talking madshit, he is going to get the nathanos treatment if he keeps it up lmao
>>555451021When will Asmon come back to wow, I miss him...
Prepatch is over, everyone go home
>>555451563this but after monks, especially p*nda monks
>>555451656>Worst looking mechsuit in the game LOL
>>555451656congrats on the transitioning xister ^_^
>>555451656use some auto UI hide addons lil bro
*ruins your spec*
>>555450236>>555450492
>>555451656don't forget the vet appointment
>>555451656NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP PLAYING THE GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU NEED TO DOOMPOST ON 4CHANNEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you guys still play this crap?I quit in WOTLK kek
>>555452314>icelance .... BUT MELEE?wow blizzard so unique spell
>>555452314isn't frost loved by everyone
>>555451870>1button rotation
>>555451656QUICKLY GLOBOFOMO BROS OUR LEADER HAS POSTED EVERYONE SUPPORT HIS POST, PUT YOUR CHIHUAHUAS DOWN AND REPLY TO IT
>>555452038They hide in combat, wdym>>555452552Yes, and?
>>555450237Me too.
>>555452945stop using that shit retard. classes already only have like 4 buttons to press. press them.i swear, 1button retards should be flagged so I can dodge them.
twilight highlands status?
>>555453210imagine getting outdps'd by my auto clicker lmao
>>555453305Owned by mommy Xally
>>555453210uhm sweety there is an addon to see if a player is using one button rotation. you wouldn't like to know about that though because you don't like addons
>>555453325things that will never happen>>555453371addon name?
Someone needs to inform Rommath that the Shadow Priests can be found in the Valley of Honor and any claims of Twilight Blade being in the Cleft of Shadows, is merely a outlandish and slanderous attempt to bad mouth Rogue, Warlocks and Mages.
dh nelfie if she were a bad bih from london
>Rommanth went to Outland>Tons of Sunfury/Sunreavers used void magic>Says nothing>His best buddy uses it>Suddenly its a problemhm okay?
so is mythic manaforge easier after the squish or not?
>pay 40 tokens for one piece of ugly ilvl 121 gear???
>>555453726>blizzard writing is "inconsistent" at best>suddenly its a problemhm okay?
>>555453443they are only there because its close to the orphanage
>>555451191>history>not herstoryyikes
>>555454036yes, it is, retard.
>>555453726>>555454036thats realistic writing
>>555454035They forgot ranged weapons btw kek
>>555452314How does it ruin anything. Its your aoe obliterate.
>>555453430there is probably an addon i don't know i was just fucking with you. sorry
>>555453305I just finished the achievement all in one go and not a bit of lag or bugs, so if you're on NA and looking to do it now would be the time.
>>555454158lmfao
EU sisters is the event supposed to be on? I see nothing in SW and blizzard told me to pick up quest there.
>>555454340yesyou auto accept a quest and then you go to org/sw
knots run /wowg/!best remember that
>>555449391Fuck Elf loversKill Elf loversBurn Elf loversExcept Night Elf, maybe.
>>555454409Oh... I indeed have a quest in my questlog, but I swear I didn't get a popup on login nor does it show anything on the map for me. Thanks sis
>>555454035>Dont care about the ugly glams>But i want 3 of the chairs and the one winged chairI will be doing dailies forever...
>>555454619>glams
pain in the ass, I can grind gear in my main, but they I have to grind with the alt for upgrades
>yogg saron is dropping azerite crystalsNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCHAMPYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNN
>>555454619RIP, I yoinked the cultist set (that looks like it was designed back in Vanilla) and left, don't care about housing or mounts. This shit is underbaked even by blizz standards
>>555454036>people arent allowed to be hypocrites
I'm still not getting any housing XP. Did those fuckers not actually implement the 2250 cap with the downtime?
>>555454992Uh yeah? Hypocrisy is bad chuddy
Should we put the Blood Elf housing items on the Blood Elf vendor?No. Give them to the Void Elf.
>>555455091Speaking of them. Why have they stolen the nightborne color scheme?
>>555454992That is the most American thing I've seen in a while.
>Be THE Void character from Warcraft 2-Cata.>Head of thee Twilight Hammer clan>Leader of the Twilight Hammer cult until his death>Don't get a rare in the memberberriees Twilight hammer event>Archbitch of Stormwind gets a rare instead
>>555449391>First Xal'atath is to be obeyed and worshipped in every action.Guess I'm a Twilight's Blade cultist.
>void elves color scheme was gold and purple>blizzard got bored of that and made them white and blue>their buildings are various shades of purpleCan they make up their fucking minds?
>>555455091Void elves are the current writers' pets. By the end of midnight all BE and HE plots will be subsumed by the Alleria, Umbric and the super special purple OC brigade show
Fuck all elves
should I do it
>>555455353You can't expect writers who've only had an interest in the lore since Legion to remember any pre legion characters
>>555455814Right away
>>555455250its a shoop you obsessed europoor
>>555455857it still is quite american
>>555455827do it
>>555455827don't, dead game
>>555455857i guarantee you theres something like this near you in muttland
>>555455907according to who?
>>555455814I just want to fuck one elf and it's my fem nelf druid wife
Why there are no pregnant elves in Ashenvale after all the orc that have been there?
>>555456071They aborted
They literally made Xalatath's cult worship her in the way we do, kek
>>555455969people with down syndrome? no shit. they're near you too. you're going tot shit yourse;f when you realize that everyone is a mutt
>>555455992According to me
Why does it feel like everything in this prepatch solely exists to try and make you see how cool the devs think Void Elves are? And they they proceed to do it in the most bare bones way
Are you supposed to just idle between spawns? pre-TWW had mini WQs to grind between bosses.
>>555456154yellow haired niggers with down syndrome, to be exact.and no, such things do not exist in my beautiful euro country
>>555456337because it is, void elves are nudevs' pet race so naturally we get too see how COOL and POWERFVL they are
>>555456354yes30sec killing 10min waiting6 hours for 1 item
>>555453496someone post dh nelfie. i love that slut so much
>>555456071The orcs got castrated for trophies.
>>555456450Um thank you Mr Blizzard...
>>555456450ive gotten 4 items including a weapon in 5 kills.
>>555455353>one of the most interesting characters in hots>no fuck this guy
>>555456578me toolike 4 cloaks and 3 belts
>>555456368wait until you see france. i'm surprised you haven't considering you can just walk there in a few hours
Devs are adding a Blood Knight tabard for all solely so they can start roleplaying their Alliance High Elf Blood Knights next xpack on Moonguard.They'll go even further with adding Void Elf paladin by the mid point of the xpack.
>>555456647why would I ever set a foot in france lmao.next you tell me to visit sweden
>>555456679We need Void Paladins. Kinda like Paladins, but Void. And Void druids too.
>>555456765We need a new road. Preferably made out of the corpses of the devs who keep pushing Void Elves.
>>555456765>void paladinsspriest>void druidsspriest
>>555456726ok. i wouldn't set foot in california. see how that works?
Um... for floating feet fetish lady!
Why are we running around with the Elves when Twilight Highland has Wildhammer Dwarves and Dragonmaw Trolls that both have more experience fighting Void cultists in the Highlands?
where is the midnight hype?
>>555456980
>>555456980how big is her cock?
>>555456949One is a state, the other is a nation. Dumbass.
>>555456440yes and its based.
>>555456949i bet you get those things even in arkansas
>>555456881Priests neither use plate nor do they transform. Oh and we need a Void Monk too.
>>555457113I hate how language has been gutted.France or Sweden are NOT nations, their countriesnation is a group of people that share a national identityfor example France is the country French are the nation, of course there are no french anymore in france only nafris
>>555457106as big as a horse's and much bluer
>>555457039You will eat void elf slop and you will be happy about it anon. Forget about trolls and dwarves, nobody on the dev team plays a stinky troll or short dwarf
>>555457039>Trolls.You mean Orcs pal
>>555457196priests transform into void entities.paladins didnt use plate in og warlo either. fuck your nu-warlo.>void monksdevourer dh
>>555457269And that's a good thing.
>>555457242esl jeet
4 minutes is acceptable
>>555457113https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_in_Europeeurope is just dollar store america
void cat girls!
>>555457393What the fuck is that even trying to prove, are you pretending that the level of Federalization is anywhere near close to the US?
the dirigible is a soulless mount
Any news on fem nelf characters such as Tyrande, Shandris?
>>555457707they are busy servicing troll cocks
>>555457707Being replaced by haranir girlbosses and void elf girlbosses like Umbric
>>555457707Tyrande retired in dragonshart, Shandris is the leader now, doing nothing
>>555457393redpill me on iceland
>>555457039Where are the aspects, titan keepers and all other big time world defenders when the world is at risk?Wow's narrative is so shit that anyone who is not a character they are currently writing just ceases to exist.
>>555457707Shandris drops by at the max level campaign of Midnight to remind you that the Night Elves exist and you should be grateful they're forcing themselves into another plot they're not needed in.
>>555457393Europe is not a country neither is the EU
>out of curiosity check out that new community classic+ website>all of the most upvoted suggestions are about turning classic more into retail>some of them are striaght up just copypasted features from newer expansionslmao
>>555457625would it matter? your countries don't do anything without first asking america anyways. but sure you win because this is a thread about WoW, which is american game. on the american internet. sure, you win.
>>555457835volcanic mountain island nowheresville aircraft carrier full of not norwegians and fish that will be occupied during times of war '''''for thier own safety'''''
>>555457265Perfect for multiple elves to worship
>>555458150ok now redpill me on their women. how pretty and naughty are they
>>555457707Go read dark days of darnassus. It's canon
>>555458247They're all whores
>>555458004almost like these clowns wanna play retail but locked to classic content
Can you solo dawn of the infinite right now?
>bm hunter cant move and cast anymoreyou turn class thats is already hiv positive to aids
>>555457817>>555457916But does Shandris have a boyfriend already??
>>555458714umbric
>>555458306perfect. are they into anal?
>>555458024Soon you will be too busy killing each other and it'll be kino. But sure you win.
>>555458714Stinky orc peon
All vulpera boys have tiny dog dicks because they're foxes and foxes are from the canidae family treeTrust me, I'm an expert
>>555458592I was doing it on Resto Sham in S2. It takes forever and it isn't easy and you can only do it on a healer because of Iridikron, he will just kill Chromie every time if you can't heal.They obviously planned Dawn out because they knew they would be killing the entrances for some of those mounts, like the Mechagon Peacekeeper, you straight up can't get that mount in TWW, there is no way to get into Junkyard.
>>555458787Just googled that guy. Wtf is this shit? Can we go back to wc3 artstyle?
>>555458592I was doing it in S2 easily. Should be a joke unless the squish made bursting Iridikron impossible.
>>555459583Samwise was the actual soul of warcraft and since his departure we will never, ever, go back to that.
>Sylvanas' Legendary Bow is upgradeable and the maximum Item Level is clearly way too highExploit early exploit often, this whole prepatch will be full of based bug, explore!
>>555450236Wait, wait... the rare farming is all we are getting? Not even random void portals on the cities like the Diablo event? No zones turning into "void/night" like in Panda/Uldum with Nzoth attacks? Just rare farming?
>>555459721>posting jeet tier cuck porngrim
>>555456337Desperately trying to make up for the fact blood elves ruined horde and no one likes void elves and wanted high elves
I got the Achievement and the Mount.What now?
>>555459851back to phase diving, piglet
>>555459810That's erotica, not porn. Unless you're a woman.
>>555459756You can't even get the items to upgrade it
>>555459851Forget about it like the other 100 shitty pointless mounts you grinded.You could have learned a language instead.
>>555459851jerk off to xally porn
>>555459756Two things>tooltip is lying like the forbidden reach tooltip>you can't even get those items to upgrade itBut sure, "exploit" away anon.
Is there an addon that keeps track which boss spawns next? Relying on nice guy in general chat to keep track of them or trying to react in the 2min it shows on map doesn't seem wise in the long run.
>>555459756>steal post from reddit>dont even read the comments that disprove itretard
Not content with stealing from the Blood Elves, Void Elves are now stealing the Nightbornes color scheme..
>This is what a girl HEARTHSTONE Player looks like.What does a girl WoW Player look like?
>start the war within for the first time>get to level 80 before I even finish the first arearest of the story is just for vibes i guess
>>555460041I don't understand why they randomly changed their colors
https://streamable.com/ajmmvloh no no
>>555460075
They never should have added more races. Instead they should have updated models, animations and racial features.
someone post a good looking horde house.they all look like shit.
>>555459721Dark days of darnassus is so kino
>>555460168Some dev who considers Void Elves their pet race probably lamented how their original colors were a pain to make tmog for their rp character. So they decided to force a colour change.
>>555459801It's microslop-trump era of WoW. TWW was a slop disaster aimed to boost engagement and retention. The WorldSoul saga is the most soulless corporate shit we will ever have.
>>555460239>sloppa
>>555460295Pretty based desu but also retarded when they have a racial mount, tabard and heritage.
Should I delete this post: >>555459756 ?I was clearly wrong
>>555459801one hundred trillion jeets worked extremely hard to use ai to produce the midnight cinematic please understand.
>>555460168I have a strong suspicion that they've been heavily adopting Microslop's jeet-influenced promotion system since SL or so where the sole thing you're considered for is number of changes made that you can directly credit to yourself. For coding this equates to commits, for artists this means making as many arbitrary changes as possible, for writers this means changing as many characters and places as possible, etc.
>>555459801>No zones turning into "void/night" like in Panda/Uldum with Nzoth attacks?that was the last patch not the prepatch bro
>>555460227menus?
>>555460274>Good>HordePick one
Surprised with stuff like this making it into the game that anyone on Horde even bothers to still play.
>>555460553how does this help make good products?
>Hotfix for the prepatch event is live now.Prepatch event is saved!
>>555460295Probably Anne Stickney asked for it when she wasn't busy eating, this character is likely her self-insert or another high level employee'shttps://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Lady_DarkglenThis character gets a disproportionate amount of screentime showing how she's the absolute coolest and most badass, got multiple updates in the beta to make her increasingly extravagant and cool, added a bodyguard with his own custom animations, etc.WoW isn't made for players anymore, it's a pet project for a couple dozen writers and artists all fighting with each other to make their OC the coolest most epic character ever
>>555460623Welcome to bfa!
>>555460623High Elves (Alliance) were always a thing
>>555460634Good product?
>>555460789>Gold Eyes>High Elf.
>>555451021that goblin can rot.>>555451181however, this alone is the primary reason Ive been full in on the "addons are cheating" position. Its so flagrantly obvious that people use a variety of addons to trivialize utility spells and control in pvp.kick bots, totem targeters enemy cd trackers just a laundry list of shit that you are supposed to have to do as part of being good at pvp that is instead being handled for you by some script.
>>555460673>even with buffed rates its >2 hours for a single piece of gearmake it drop 5 badges on a 5 minute respawn
>>555460830Oh yeah, you are right, that's weird
I can't remember another expansion where the entire playerbase entered it pissed off and unhappy. Even SL had a honeymoon period for like 2 weeks
>>555451021hope a truck full of fertilizer gets driven through that faggot freaks mcmansion
>>555460941Is not weird, that's the way they generate npc. Remember the bfa pre patch autism?
Reminder that all foxes are immortal, and all female worgen are custom constructed from the ground up to specialize in receiving only the hardest of anal that you can possibly imagine.
>>555461001One side of the playerbase has been pissed off for 3 years already. They're just more pissed off now. The other side of the playerbase is pissed off because they're getting what they asked for, but not 100% exactly how they asked for it.
How did we go from TWW pre-event to this? Did the guy in charge of the previous one accidentally take the wrong milk bottle or something.
>>555460931the addon purge is the only reason I've been considering PVPing in Midnight.Most of the cretins who play this are onions cowards who can't fucking stand direct competition though, so they can't even see this benefit, they are literally blind to it. WoW players are blind to a lot of things, a lot of them play in bubbles.They will act like they mastered the game but they haven't touched PVP or raid and they use an excuse like "oh that doesnt count".
>>555455025they said "in a few days" you stupid illiterate brown
>windrunner xpacalliance troons need their pandering
>>555461112>doing random loop of world quest slop every hourThe tww event was fucking trash
>have mained arms warrior since bfa>hear classic is more focused on questing and the leveling / exploration experience than retail>try it>make an arms warrior because why not>its literally just the same class minus a couple of cooldownsgood to know ive been playing a classic tier spec for years
>>555461159the entire expansion is hordetranny slop thoughbeit
>>555461112remix was partially the pre patch eventits clear that the remixes are here to stay and will be the end of expansion powerleveling event
>>555461112TWW prepatch wasn't that different. Instead of it being centred on one zone like SL, they put all the memberberries across 3. Then they dropped the mandatory Windrunner expansion set up questline a patch earlier with Arator, compared to dropping it with the prepatch for TWW.
>>555461163Better and faster for gear and leveling than idling for 10minutes and killing boss in 1 minute.
>>555461112>completely memoryholed the fact blizzard had to change it before it was """good"""
>>555461159Excuse you. The Alliance city of Silvermoon NEEDs the Windrunners.Get it right.
>>555461173>>its literally just the same class minus a couple of cooldownsThat's every spec anon. I'm not sure what the point of this post is or what a "classic tier spec" is supposed to mean
WE
>>555461279>trash vs rancid trashIrrelevant
>>555461460Now imagine them trying to write this dialogue today
if resto druid particularly good or bad with any tanks? like is there some proper synergy or anti-synergy in between a particular combo?I'm trying to duo with one
>>555461460rasclat
>>555461537>King Rastakhan says: De Zandalari have always stood for tolerance and mercy.
>>555461369>That's every spec anongo play frost mage on classic
>>555460041>this is what they meant with "unite the elves">all elves will be united under the rule of void elvesgrim
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/44?metric=progress&partition=2&boss=-1>top 20>not a single alliance guildHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>555461838Despite Horde being banned from Ka'resh. Horde still managed to BTFO the blues.
>>555461001Void is the most lame fucking concept ever i am not surprised. Also, legion remix right before an expansion was a hilarious mistake. Because it showed how bad modern expansions are.
this game is so pretty
>>555461941I LOVE Oldgods, but Blizzard just had to kill them all and instead gives us some boring safehorny floating woman, yay.
>>555462054i called it as soon as they coined this cosmic void thing in aberrus that it was just to get rid of all the old god stuffnow void is just purple arcane and they occasionally whisper at you but you can just ignore it
>>555461813>the midnight was representing the void elves all alongfuck
FIX THE FUCKING TOOOLLLLTIPPPSSSSSSSSS
>For Midnight launch, Blizzard are only working on fixing addon exploits and high-priority dev requests and the remainder of addon requests will likely be waiting until 12.0.5. https://www.wowhead.com/news/addon-changes-for-midnight-launch-ending-soon-with-release-candidate-coming-380133
Since Legion out of the 5 expansions released, 4 have focused on Void related bad guys.We've been suffering constant void shittery solely because some devs kept seething about Warlocks in MoP so decided kill off all Warlock lore and by extension Demon lore with WoD and Legion
>>555462217cheaters lost
>>555462227kul tiras has been the peak of wow story and questing since it came out. adventuring, actually exploring, reforming an ancient order of witch hunters, etc. is just so much fucking cooler than cosmic horror bad guy with sexy feet
>>555462103The "cosmic void" stuff is so, how can I put this, woman coded?I mean in how it's all "wow pretty sparkles and stars so pretty!!!!!" compared to void being associated with the old gods with their fleshy abomination and evil themed magic aesthetic.
>>555461923alliance troons don't even play besides doing gay erp shit
>>555461961breasts? In my wowowawa? report this shit to blizz NOW.
>first quest in pre-patch event>kill the cultists if they don't complyw-what did blizzard mean by this?
hahahahahahahahaha
>>555461112What are you talking about? TWW event was the same as this garbage. So was DF. So was SL.We've literally had the exact same garbage event copy pasted for 4 expansions now.TWW event was just this except in other zones like swamp of sorrows and searing gorge and instead of cultists it was 'memory echoes'.
Wait, the weekly quests are account wide?WTF BLIZZARD?
>>555462821>minor but beloved characterWho the fuck is Nisha?
>Rare spawns>Fly to it>Game lags>By the time the lag stops the rare is already dead
>>555461923>Despite Horde being banned from Ka'reshTry and stop me bitch!Also, the fuck?
>>555462821furries sexually abuse / abuse animals in real life.
>>555455353The current team probably doesn't remember him
>>555462935Nobody knows or cares except furfags.
>>555462821I'm sure this guy will make like kero the wolf and use some fresh roadkill to soothe his troubled mind
>>555462814>cultist that want to destroy the world and kill everyone>don't hurt them if they are willing to leave after you ask :3
>>555462821I don't think I've seen a single person who's played Horde happy about the direction Midnight's taken.They've somehow managed to piss of the fanbases of every race
>>555455353He's going to reincarnate and become the first New God.Trust
>>555463308I don't think I've seen a single person happy about Midnight
>>555463334>not the first young god
>>555462935The Vulp that does more leader things than Kiro, lead the charge on the Sethrakk and also likes stabbing things in general.Honestly the only Vulpera candidate out of any of them from the Vol'dun questline that'd probably start shit with Alliance on the regular just because she has an opportunity to shank someone.
>>555463370I have. She's called Anne Stickney
>>555461961Yes, im trying to get loremaster and running through old zones is really making me love the game again.Then I go play the prepatch event and it all fades away.
>I quit the game 14 years ago but here's my shitty opinion
>>555449391Is Arms Warrior meant to feel this dogshit?>25% less damage than Fury>zero sustain>using Slam as a key ability in 2026
>not even the unification of the elves will save midnightit's so fucked
Hate me all you want but as an horde player I have never completed the cata twitchlands, I'm not even friendly with the dragonmaw orcs so traveling in that place is annoying. I guess the event will be the time to do some shit in that god-awful place
Brann bronzebeard has already united the delves
>>555463419they changed her personality in midnight so hard she is tired of war and just wants peace and drink coffee or some shit lol
>>555463545Unification of the Elves was always doomed to fail. You had people point out when the WSS was originally announced that all it'd mean is Void Elves, Night Elves and High Elves taking over what should be a Horde focused plot.Unification can never make anyone happy when one side of your unifications have more voices than the other and the devs have done nothing to solve the issues either side have with one another.
>>555463543>using Slam as a key ability in 2026Wait until you see their apex talents. Someone REALLY wants us to use slam.That, cleave and rend were shit i was desperately hoping would be pruned but nope. All survived.
>feel a fart coming on>hold it just in case>squirts a little poo juice out and stains my chair
>>555463668That's literally every character in the ArcantinaIt feels more like a nursing home where you run errands for your dying grandparent rather than a tavern with adventures awaiting you
>>555463548I was a pretty shit zone, so whatever.
>>555462821this is why you have to ignore lorecucks
>>555462821good, take this literal subhuman race and give it to the alliance
>>555463668They really gotta fire the writing team and hire some people who've actually played Horde content.
>trying to get the rest of the amirdrassil mythic set so I can get the rest of my missing pieces>list and clearly state this is a full run in the title>kill the first 2 bosses>"WHY NO SKIP?" "SKIPPP?????"I fucking hate these fucking people.
>>555463668>ready to settle down
>>555454170this, so much bitching over non issues
>>555461584No, noob. Any button you press on R Druid heals everyone, doesn't matter what you press or do. You have HP bar go up heals and you have Ironbark, you play the exact same with every tank.People will say it's good with BDK because you have a constant HoT on them, but it's not "particularly" good.
>>555463935Imagine how often their genitalia touches while they shower
>>555463935POV. You're an Orc Warlock
>>555450237link full please
>>555461112they're not that differentin fact all pre patch events are not that different, they're all pretty simple, the only one that actually tried something was BFA and everyone hated the living shit out of it.
>>555463970Hard anal especially for this one.
>>555463387>young godwhat's that?
>>555464142BFA had the right idea, but Alliance hated the Teldrassil situation so much they like to pretend battle of Lordaeron wasn't also apart of the prepatch.
>>555461001>mop>wod>legion pre patch prune, bugs and pvp>bfa pre patch bogalooWhy do so many people often memoryhole these kinda shit then go and post other stupid shit
>Show as offlineIf you do this I will remove you from my friendlist
Anyone know if they are wiping undercoins before midnight?
>Elf expansion >Except no animation updates>Made a replacement for Nelf insteadBlizzard is the only successful but spiteful dev out there
>>555462940>rare spawns>fly to it>land too close to a branch or a rock or anything really>game thinks im fly hacking>get dced
>>555429797Thanks anon.
>>555463935I need this but futa.
>>555464405It's only because they inherited one of the first and biggest live service gamesWithout it they'd all be making Concords and Highguards, and they've been rapidly destroying it
>>555463543Yep, you have no idea how much damage your abilities are going to do until you press them. I'm too stubborn to swap to fury and I've gotten used to it though, so I'm sticking with arms
>>555463668Good vulpera aren't intimidating and having a retard "cutesy killer" is gay.
genuine questionwhy does the catch up event have rares that spawn with hours inbetween and world events that take over 20 minutes also because of spawns
>>555464405it really curdles my cummies that they don't bother with new animations for these races
>>555464751new selling point for tlt, trust
>>555464338yup
>>555464749a rare spawns every 10 minutes
>>555464553My drae is like this
>>555464405Well this is what happens when devs are just allowed to work on their own pet projects instead of someone directing them to update the existing races.
Daily reminder you people either only log in when you're horny but too ashamed to erp, or nobody loners with no guild, pugging with randos and even if you clear, you got no one to tell about it.also nerub is inactive, remove it
>>555464749>genuine question>posts a complete lie
>>555461838>4th place a chinese guildHMMMIirc chinese can't use addons or am I wrong
>>555464338is there a source?
>>555464929oh so it's just a complaint about the achievement
>>555464553https://files.catbox.moe/r3iizk.png
>>555465042>reading about what to expect>a bunch of complaints about how long it is to catch up>asks for clarificationok
Dog in
why do artists always give female draenei perfectly smooth foreheads
>>555465340>3 scoops
>Shutdown in 15:00AAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>555465015I feel bad for people who play this game guildless and solo. Very retarded way to play this and this is coming from someone who isn't really social.
>>555465416resetting endeavors hopefully
>>555465416THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>555461838being a "horde guild" just means the leader character is horde. those guilds are full of night elves, void elves, dwarves
>>555465360The average draenei art forgets to give them neck tendrils, gives them goat/demon horns sprouting from their head instead of natural extensions of their head, or covers their legs in fur, you're asking a lot for them to remember to add the cranial crests
>>555465360neoteny and looks cuter. we have enough AAA games with purposely ugly hags in them, let us have our smooth foreheads.
>>555461838see >>555465521retard
>>555465521proof?
>>555457039cata twilight highlands campaign is non-canon to midnight, if you've done the quests to ally with with the dragonmaw/wildhammer then your character is bricked and locked in a phase where the twilight blade don't exist
great
>>555465474I play in a guild at CE level. I hate every single person in my guild. Raiding is a he only content I still enjoy. The second that joy is gone I'll never join a guild again.
>>555465521>>555465579this alliance troon samefags xirself HAHAHAHAHAHA
>expansion in the blood elf area>surely it’s good stuff for the blood elves>entire story derailed to focus on the void elves, asspull race invented out of thin air in BFA>literal who placeholder velf racial leader promoted to main character with short story to glaze him>coming off war within all about alleria>pre-patch is about umbric being smart and right and rommath is a chud and wrong>belves called colonizers in the actual game >arator lamenting the racist colonizing of Amani lands>Belves can’t defend their land against plants infused with the Light, saved only by the half-troll oc new race>tranquilien attacked by and almost overrun but saved by the void elves>liadrin personally apologizes to the Amani, questline about CULTURAL ENRICHMENT, She’s confirmed pregnant with an amani child>lorthemar afk in silvermoon>new blood elf voices recorded, they all sound awful and there’s a troon voice for males and females>magisters terrace guards slaughtered because they won’t let blood elves in>lothraxion killed for not accepting void elvesMidnight is VOID ELF expansionbelfsissies will report to the cuck chair IMMEDIATELY
>>555465645thats wrong tho
>>555465015>only log in when you're hornyI was like this with XIV, but wowowawa doesn't make me horny at all. Either due to lack of catgirls or because I started playing it long before gooner brainrot struck as a kid/teenager so it has fermented it's place as an actual video game instead of second life gooning tool.
>>555465705>what are post timersactual retard
>>555465119YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS! MY MAN!
>>555465714>She’s confirmed pregnant with an amani childchat is that true?
>>555465714dont forget replacing their green iconic gems with blue color and allowing the updated blood knight tabard to be worn by other races
>>555465326>>asks for clarification>"why does x happen"ok faggot
>4 hour maintenance
>>555465891retard, unironic retard
>>555465474I get AOTC and 3k M+ each season in pugs I don't give a fuck. It's somehow more relaxing and freeing than what it was like being in a CE guild. No "ah shit I get raid tonight and I really don't want to show up, gotta come up with a lie and then appear offline on a bunch of things" moments.
>>555465802>phonepostingactual thirdie
they're fixing item upgrades today
maintenance? works on my machine
>servers are going down in x minutes message>check battle.net>nothing>check the login screen>nothingHuh?
alliancesissies are actual subhumans, literal jeets. you can't tell me otherwise
>>555466182>all the most obnoxious posters are alliancehmm
belf nigger is mad lol
>>555466182This has always been a fact.
>>555465474I've joined so many guilds over the years, some of them really good - only for them to die out in 1 - 2 expansions. I don't want to bother with it anymore.
>>555453496>>555456496My fem nelf dh wifey missed you anons too>>555455814Especially my wifey
>literal daily maintenancehow fucking incompetent
of the 20 characters in liquids world first kill, 4 were dracthyr where faction doesn't matter. of the remaining 16, 12 were alliance races. Lok.... tar?
Gob paladins when, we have seen the light(s in the Galagio)
>>555466412man that random post really got you huh
>troons gotta shut the servers down againFIXTHEFUCKINGVALORSTONE/CREST UPGRADE BUG YOU AXEWOUND HAVING ASS MOTHERFUCKERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>555466412hordesissies are NOT going to like this
I love my Fem nelf wife so much its unreal sirs! leaving me new year resolution facts and curry and constant (indirect) seethe for the whole thread!His retarded brain will spam positive replies to this post!World of Warcraft Midnighthttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/1DknLoDx9Hnn84KzUXSrnQ/https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/Kj487dMGn9VMtxLTT10GSg/
>>555466412All I'm reading from this is that Alliance racials should be nerfed desu
>>555466412Hordie girlies WHAT DO WE DO ARGHHHHHHHH
>>555462821Vulpera hmofa is inevitable
>>555466412>karuichopper
>555466364speaking of alliance jeets...
>>555466501>>555466628KEK
>>555466364Make one with her getting raped by fat ogres
Oh are we doing this game again?
>>555466792I get gangbanged by horde all the time on war mode as alliance on the most populated alliance server.
How come there's not a single Void Elf NPC among the new void cult
>>555465698>CE levelno wonder.>>555465952I feel this. My guild is built diff and we call each other by our first names. Calling people by handles is a no no in our guild and actually really cringe, we will tell each other our names to avoid handles lol.Fuck AOTC and 3k, I Dgaf about those fake gay milestones.>>555466264They do die a lot and are hard to recruit for.t. recruiter.
>>555466792
>born to dog in>forced to dog out
>>555466876Server? I'm on Tich and is the exact opposite
>>555466878Cool it with the anti-ren'dorei remarks
What classes are good?
>triggered hordelet pulling out screen captures from 8 years ago
>>555466876That's because wm throw people from all the servers into one pvp shard, some are dominated by horde and some by alliance. Most people here are too stupid to understand that and think their faction is super dominant (Mostly alliance)
>hordekeks
>>555466930
OH MY FUCKING GOD NAME THE FUCKING GAME WORLD OF MAINTENANCECRAFT ALREADY
>>555466524sex with memefox
>>555466792>they need to see a mass exodus from Alliance
>>555450237someone link full in catbox or something please
Prepatch is shit as always. Wake me up when the Voidslop expansions are over and we get back to literally anything else.
>>555467036God damn that guy cooked him
it's over
Ion Hazzikostas: "Developers don't care" is inaccurate, hurtful. Ion at this point can go fuck himself he doesnt know what hes talking about. How is ion not fired at this point is beyond me.
>>555467006I would say that the alliance probably has an advantage in war mode, but you will lose crates all the time to horde even just organically not against crate farming groups.also fuck blizzard fuck ion and fuck microsoftI saw the 10 badge world quest and thought "il just do it on a bunch of alts so I don't have to play rare whack a mole"... nope, its another warband lockout once you do it its crystals
>>555467230.1 is trolls
>>555467392Well at least we might get some sovl out of this expansion
guys why is the game always doing maintenance i have questing to do my people need me
>we're gonna start doing smaller patches that allow us to deliver more content overall>every minor content update every few weeks there is an 11 hour extended maintenance followed by 3 hour extended maintenance the next 5 daysoverall they have probably cut down the amount of time the servers are up by 30% by adding more "content" which is just the original amount of content chopped up into smaller pieces.... brilliant
>>555467156>patch happens>100 things break>patch fixes 50 things>servers go down>fixes 10 things>20 more things break
we alliance wuz good mayne, we be doin' worlds first, we be havin' the best lore n shieetmore important, we be havin a black QWEEN
>>555467316I swear to god warbands was the biggest load of shit they pushed.>"omg guys we're going to be soooo alt friendly now so much will be shared across your warband">what they actually did was just rename account bound>made currency grinds worse because the game now checks if you've done it once so you either get no currency on alts or heavily reduced (timewalking quests)
>>555467690if she had a normal haircut i genuinely wouldnt have a problem with her
Typical blizzard shit. Yesterday they accidentally gave everyone epic riding on TBC classic after maintenance. They're just retarded.
>>555467161explain in detail
>>555467690cope, she is horde coded
>>555467720>at the current rate all reputations will be account wide by 2040
>>555467741That's a pretty based thing to do.
>he paid to stare at the login screen
We the players need to get Blizzard’s attention, but don’t look to the WoW forums to do it. Any calls for Ion’s dismissal will result in a suspension from the forum. So vote with out wallets until ion is fired period. You sicken me ion leave my sight
>>555467690
>>555467794>BLM fist in the questlog
game director ion herewe added a new pettable dog to both stormwind and orgrimmarunfortunately we need to do daily 5 hour maintenance on the servers because of it for the next 6 months
>>555467794>bro flexes the fact that humans get raped by orcslmfaoooo
I hope this maintenance fixes the game being slow in hub areas, it was fine last week but after yesterday patch it got fuck again
>>555467916she's your future warchief, "bro"
>>555467829Don't you people get it? Ion doesnt sound like a geniune game director with a master of science from rochester institute of technology or computer science major those guys with a major in either are far suited than a lawyer background. Pink slip ion and find someone fit like those maybe wow will change perhaps?
>>555467963The game has been a stuttering nightmare in cities since 12.0.
>>555467156Thamk you for beta testing
Are DKs looking good? Thinking about switching off hunter.
>>555468010>"no u"estrogenic faction
the players have been asking for more maintenance downtime and the developers have listenedthe midnight expansion will improve on the wildly popular downtime mechanic. Servers will routinely be inaccessible for weeks at a time, not just after major patches. Not only that but we've worked with our parent company microsoft to shut off windows access for our players as well during that time.
Will you be tommorow in this general when it will turn into a shitshow?
>>555468042For me it got better last week but Blizz being Blizz did something else and after that without a reason the models (npcs, buildings, etc) started to reload every 4 or 5 minutes
Fine, I guess i'll goon to Assumi until the servers are back. Ugh.
>>555468318I'll be playing World of Warcraft: Midnight tomorrow
it warms my heart to see there's still some genuine animosity between alliance and horde players
>>555468431these threads more about WAR than the actual world of warcraft at this point
>how does Ion still have a jobPR reasons, guaranteed. If you fire that idiot this game would fucking explode and Ion would need to go Zero Dark Thirty on all social media platforms without having to see his gay face memed on 24/7.If he just retires quietly one day his face won't become a national laughing stock over night. They also probably think it's mean at this point. Blizzard thinks everything is mean.
>2013>Runescape has entered a period of serious decline following massive changes to the combat system, polarizing art style changes and growing disdain for the writing that feels increasingly out of place, and an overall sense of directionless>a new release of an older version of the game with brand new content is introduced, this swiftly grows to overtake the original game in popularity in about 2 years before eventually 10xing its concurrent player numbers>2026>World of Warcraft
https://github.com/m4tjz/WeakAuras2-for-Midnight
>>555468530Well call me when we get a massive change to the combat system because removing wa is not that.
>>555467316yeah fuck ion replace ion with a computer science major or master of science from rit thats way better someone legit work their asses off for that major only for someone like ion to sweet talk their way into the position they are not fit for the job the cs major or ms major from rit is. Ions jargon is good for securing contracts, courtroom cases but running an mmo as a lawyer is completely unacceptable. We the players need to vote with our wallets until ion is fired. Every studio looked up to blizzard what happened?
>>555468318I'll be working all day tomorrow to be able to pay my piggy sub for another month :D so I'll miss the shit show, I might check the threads later in the night
>>555468318>tokens at 500kOH NONONONONONONONO
>>555468530theyre actually doing incredibly sweeping changes to runescape over this year that should make it into a genuinely good game
>>555460830>>555460941Lor'themar lets the Silver Covenant visit the Sunwell.All Thalassians are allowed to visit, if they're not void elves. No matter their faction affiliation.
>DOOD we made NEW weeakauras Blizzard has FAILED in their mission to kill them>it still adheres to the limits of the new addon API, just like actual WeakAuras could if the dev didn't shit himself about it
why are wowfags so desperate for the game to play itself instead of actually learning their class and fights
>>555468965>It makes sense because of this dumbass out of character lore reason to justify the dumb plot.
>>555468794"should", "could", never "will".
yippie
>>555469045im a mdi participant, chud (1.7k rio btw)
>>555469097That's been the lore of it since like Wrath.
Which alliance races are actually cool?
>>555469097>he's never done the wrath sword questline
>>555469270Yes, then multiple other expansions of the Silver Covenant doing enough shit to get them banned from Silvermoon happened.
>>555469358dorfs
>>555469358dwarves but only because they are irrelevant.
>>555469358Worgen
>buy house >feat of strengthblizz standards have gone so low
>>555469663>buy something>get achievment>dopamine hits the brain>buy moreretarded pig
>>555469373He still never banned them from pilgrimage. Their stay in the city is time limited, like we see with Alleria. They come, they see the Sunwell, then they are escorted out.
Do the twilight rares always spawn in the same place so I can afk there?
they up?
>>555469779they have like 4 different spawn points but yeah its a rotation
If I subscribe a week before Midnight, would you guys say that's enough time to get everything from the prepatch?
>>555469663anon its one of the most based achievements there is, in 5-10 years we can start sending ICE on anyone that got that fos after march 2026ion said he was going to make azeroth great again and he is delivering by removing the browns
>>555469358i play male dracthyr almost exclusively
>>555469828It's a rotation so if I miss one I'll have to wait 3 hours minimum.
>>555469851Yes as long as you grind rares for the cosmetics.
>>555468504We need a way to get blizzards attention without the wow forums to do so. Have you seen the wow metacritic user review scores? No wonder ion is a national laughing stock its and Ion Hazzikostas saying "Developers don't care" is inaccurate, hurtful. Stings doesn't it? It really does ion maybe once your pink slipped and his ass is out the door maybe wow will be great again without your lawyer jargon nonsense and also pull esports from world of warcraft please. MMORPGS arent meant to be an esports. Please make it a pure mmorpgs wow isnt fit sure we can have tournaments but esports? nah cease the esports for wow pls
>>555469437>>555469440Dark Iron was the best allied race and it's not even close
sooo what we doing for the next 4 hours?
>>555469358Gnomes.Only race that still has their original leader in position of leadership without having been cucked, and always win whenever they show up on a scene.Blizzard knew it, they had to make a boss fight with Mekkatorque just to take him out of action and demoralize them because they couldn't stop winning. Didn't kill him though, Mekkatorque is too much of a chad.
>>555469358Draenei are pretty cool.
>>555467829>>555468235Wasn't there a thing about Ion being a plant?With how fucking bizarre the Epstein files are, I wouldn't even be surprised if the CIA was using WoW as a method of torture to get analytics or something similar.
>belves finally get the lore attention they have been begging for>instantly turned into tanned human with long ears
Hoomans
badass
>>555470107
>dood leejun pre patch was so good>*it's the same shit of every pre patch*>but dood it was leejunsigh... most annoying motherfuckers with extremely short memory
>>555470157how?
>>555470107CIA handles international issues you god damn mexican
>>555470183People pretend pre patchs are good as long as you can lvl a character to max lvl in 10 minutesThat's the event standard
>>555470250MKUltra was experimenting on US citizens for decades
Damn I thought 120ms was playable but looting and shit takes ages
Am I smoking or was there supposed to be biiig boss/event every 2hours?
>>555470312the ultimate goal was to deal with the communistsNSA FBI etc handle domestic
>>555470435you're smoking
>>555470387that's just the servers being overloaded, same thing happened in lemixat 120-180ms you barely notice the lag or so I've heard
>>555469939Ion has been at the helm too long, they need some fresh leadership. It's become a paint by numbers, "see how little we can do and still get away with" mentality.
>>555470250They were working very internationally when they kidnapped and raped and mindraped multiple US and Canadian citizens for MKUltra.Which is proven real, they released the documents about it.>>555470107He worked for a law firm used by the CIA, but I'm not sure the extent of their use of his firm, or his "rank"(for lack of a better term) within the firm.
did they update seeleton form that drink that turns u a sekeletonskeleton form?textrues from2004!!!!!!!
IT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UP>IT'S UP
>>555470596UR SO PRETTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't care about Classic, fucking youtube keeps spamming that shit.
>maintenance extendeddoomsisters, we're winning
>>555470665>no pandanice try tranny
>>555470183buh it wah leejun!
>>555470548federal law enforcement and intelligence are glorified local copspeople are delusional if they think some super genius is going to work for 100k a year to spy on civil rights leaders and/or goat herdersreal intelligence work is run by military intelligence... hitler was military intelligence sent to spy on the nazis and then became one
>>555470594Kill yourself, worthless fur faggot.Goddamn, I wish nobody had ever tolerated your kind.>>555470596Not that I've seen. I'll have to use a noggenfogger. Been a while.
>>555470548so ion is a lawyer who worked for a law firm used by the cia is that why world of warcraft looks like fucking shit?
>7:55 still downEXTENDED
>>555470226A lot of characters
omg this new rendorai tents in highlands is so cool
>>555470665looks like shit
>https://x.com/BlizzardCS/status/2016082654475780364EXTENDED
>>555470213He strikes again…
Why do you keep playing this game when you know that blizzard have no idea what to do with this and ruin the game with each patch and expansion
>>555470854
>>555471195I dunno why are you posting here like anyone cares
>>555470594Do you think we'll get any notable characters defecting to the cult?I know there was the pope guy in Cata but you'd think with a void invasion or whatever is about to happen there'd be a couple of people switching sides.Not really sure who would make a good candidate though.I also don't really get why the Twilight cult are involved, I thought they were explicitly Old God related but maybe they'll summon some horror to be the loot bag for the first patch of Midnight
>>555471251>can't answerNext
????????
>>555471358seems pretty clear to me whats the issue
>>555471195I am a beaten wife that still sometimes finds joy in being with my husband(WoW)
ill forgive ion if they increase the housing cap.... otherwise im going to go out on the street and beat the shit out of the first greek american i see
>spell called heroism>graphic is a golden hammer, something for paladins>it's shaman>spell called bloodlust>graphic is an angry thing, something for warriors>it's still shaman
>>555471058don't click this it's a phishing link
>>555471195because this game is a lot more tolerable when you don't treat it as your main one
>>555471358why is your shit so grainy???
extended to 9
are they even capable of ending a maintenance at the scheduled time
>>555471195This has been the sentiment since WoW's inception The best guild on my server had a public forum of their own, and their main tank had a signature that read "WoW is a lot like smoking. It gets easier to quit with every patch"
the pre event, thats it camp rares 5min?
>>555471334>Do you think we'll get any notable characters defecting to the cult?nah they're just the next avengers-tier world ending bad guy that makes everyone come together like we've had every xpac>I also don't really get why the Twilight cult are involvedle evil void but xally isn't actually them she's redeemable anti-hero tier so we must unite the elves to drive the cult back
>extendedFuck this I'm going to bed
>>555471615aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai got so bored i made this image
https://www.wowhead.com/news/environment-plot-updates-horde-alliance-neighborhoods-midnight-beta-328451https://www.wowhead.com/news/environment-plot-updates-horde-alliance-neighborhoods-midnight-beta-328451https://www.wowhead.com/news/environment-plot-updates-horde-alliance-neighborhoods-midnight-beta-3284518 new plots per neighborhoodalliance: upgraded the westfall coastline area, 2 plots are on rocky islands just off the coastrazorwind shores they finished the chasm from that concept art. I'm moving here 100%, the lighting and mood is 1:1 the drag / cleft of shadows in orgrimmar
>>555471195Because every other MMO just flat out plays worse.
>>555471739why are you wearing n64 texture?
>>555471964you should stop using those pics for your shitposting
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/xOlgqoRKZ7PRuDcFgMCq4A/
>>555471976its so painfully trueWoW is trash but everything else fucking blows ass
>>555471358I missed a rare because of this, not again
>>555471769yeah that's what all pre events are, and a timegated questline that leads up to the xpac release.bfa tried something more story focused and made it the (actual) most hated pre patch because it fucked over everyone both gameplay and even story wise
we don't shit talk the apuposter
>>555471976Good thing Blizzard is working hard to get rid of that advantage
>>555472054wtfdont expose mesorry
>>555470312>wasyeah then the CIA came clean about it and only focuses on foreign threats. yessir no domestic ops ever again!
>>555472158>nd made it the (actual) most hated pre patchNah the most hated are cata and sneedolands and now this one I guess
>>555472183>>555471195Go back to whatever random jap or bug mmo you come from shill, at least man up and shill your dogshit in at least a funny way instead of doing it in a passive aggresive way, cuck.
>>555470594hot, sweaty, breathy sex with this female (female) worgen right here
retribution paladin doesnt feel good anymore
>>555471984Because the armor is a symbol of how much of a le epic oldfag I amDid you know that Mish'undare, Circlet of the Mind Flayer, the BIS helmet for -any- caster, has a texture that spans only 64x64 pixels? Here's how small it is!WoW's strong suit is that you could play it on a toaster. Given how technology has improved in the past 20 years, maybe even literally these days!
>>555471815Just feels weird to have them back, I stopped playing in Cata and it sort of felt like Cata was the culmination of the cults influence. Not really sure why they are here now and not say, some explicitly void related cult.Poor guys have been the punching bag mooks since Vanilla
>>555472386bm is always there for the brain dead fans
>>555471964>it's reali quit. you know what? im done. i can't ever do this again. im to old. i got big old obese man tits now. any time I sag over in resignation they hit me in the face from being elasticated.
DPSissies still have no accountability for anything. They get a one button rotation mode. They get rotation assist. Mobs have longer casts because DPSissies crippling brain damage means they have no reactions. Healers ask for a filter on raid/party frame buffs NOPE. INSTEAD DEFENSIVES SHOW UP AND YOU CAN'T CLICK THROUGH THEM. GOOD LUCK RETARDS HAHAHAHAHA
>>555472386define feel good because I love itI also like fighting games and some mobas before any monogamer jumps conclusions
>>555470213MEMEFOX! NOOOOO-ACK!
>>555472183I can't understand why Blizzard is throwing wow to the trash like it's nothing important
>>555472158the last prepatch was "wait for rares to spawn" but also had constantly spawning events to grind in-between instead of AFKing for 10 minutesswapping those for 4 WQs with full length respawn time and one-time warband-locked rewards was just retarded>PLAY TIC-TAC-TOE
>>555472537based rhythmancer
>>555471739can you get benediction as part of that "you can grind old legendaries" (such as tarecgosa, the deathwing daggers, etc) thing they unlocked in like shadowlands or whenever? or are you just an OG?
>>555472607>constantly spawningonly every hour tho
Can this prepatch event even be used to level quickly?
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE NU BLOOD ELF MALE VOICELINES, THEY SOUND LIKE STEREOTYPICAL FAGGOTS???????
is wow a "rich people" game?
Jaina has a dick. The years of peace between the Horde and Alliance based on a lie. Thrall realizes now that Jaina will never be able to bear him an heir. Peace is impossible. Stormwind must burn.
>>555472720yes because look at me
pre-patch.. sounds like they should proper-patch instead
>>555472720yeah like diablo immortal
>>555472613https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYIaWeVL1JM
>>555472720Considering my actual child ass back in the day was paying for my own sub by mowing the lawn, no.
>>555472252cataclysm prepatch was based, wtf are you talking about? My memories of that are the plants vs zombies minigame and getting raped by deathwing while levelling. that's how you hype up a villain, not with cutscenes where they just chuckle and call you a fool. make me hate the villain
>>555472713In 2007 people made fun of male blood elves as gay and Blizzard was self-conscious enough about this they actually buffed up their models before TBC releaseIn 2025 everyone working at Blizzard is either a woman or literally or spiritually gay, so male blood elves being steotypically gay is seen as an empowering decision choice
What is he thinking right now?
>>555472791
>>555462996Sounds like projection
>>555472817this good oldie
>>555472843>not with cutscenes where they just chuckle and call you a foolwrathbabs...
this good filter
>>555469943They need more beards though
>>555472537 i just liked it more in tww
>>555472594I don't understand where the fuck the people working on this game come from.The writers clearly don't like the universe and want to twist it into something else, the gameplay/class designers have no clue.
>>555472897Probably good things. He gets paid more than Metzen to write crossovershit that his much larger playerbase all love and appreciate compared to hating on him. He unequivocally won.
>>555472920my queen
>>555469851buddy you could sub 20 minutes before midnight releases and get everything worth getting from the prepatch
they ruined my favorite zone with world quests!
>>555472994Uh we'll add more customizaiton options when it narratively makes sense to explore their culture.>blood/void elves get nothing in this elf focused expansionNevermind lol
>2048>Ion Hazzikostas III explains how we still can't have characters have any real conflict or beliefs that make them clash with one another without an obvious power of friendship solution waiting to be imminently deployed because everyone is still traumatized by BfA
>>555473101honestly truethe gear will just be replaced while leveling, and its just a shitty recolor of the TWW dungeon gear
>>555473054Why do they like him in fortnight?What does he even do?
>maintenance extendedEven my fem nelf dh wifey is getting tired of this shi
>>555473202all thanks to dragonflight!
>>555473230He gets to write Amirdrassil ending cinematics, but with every known IP to man teaming up to fight Mecha Super Saiyan Godzilla, and this is what Fortnite fans actually want so he is doing his job well
>>555473043Some of them are probably from deviantart hires based on increasing number of weird furries, scalies and the overall odd disneyfication of the game
>>555473143fucking lol, YOUR ZONE IS FUCKING SHITTTTTTTTTTAND ALWAYS AHAVEE BEEEN SHITTTTTTTTTI PLAYED THIS DSAY ONEEEE AND ITS SHITTTTTTTTTTT
>they could have given us this twilight set as a pre-patch rewardbut alas, cataclysm exclusive
>>555472843The stupid random vs plants shit wasnt related to the prepatch event, the event was some gay dungeon boss
can someone explain this?
>>555472994sorry, no can do. hiranar need another 23 quill options (for each body type). You can get 2 more beards for DID or a raid tier. your choice.
can you shut the fuck up with your fucking AI shit man jesus christ
what's your wow character's body count
>sis, you HAVE to tell me where you got that decooooor >hrmm I think these pushes will look better over here, the pink in them will POP>do these drapes look better in light blue or teal?This is WoW housing now and somehow more Warcraft than garrisons.
>>555473479NAHBETTER SAVE IT FOR SOME UNRELATED DUNGEON, RAID OR OTHER EVENT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT
>>555473349>>555473537>pajeets need gtp to shitpostkek
>>555473587click the link for more info
gonna need to check the stormwind crime stats again...
Gonna get pic of my cub OC plapped by xal void tentacles for Midnight Season 1 :3 she's healer btw
>>555473349>>555473537Holy mother of trvth nvkesChatGPT is based
>>555473383Am I the only one who didn't think that cinematic was that out of place?Like yeah it was cringe... but out of all characters to ask for help I think if Alexstrasza did so then yeah, most of the faction leaders would probably show up like the fucking Avengers
>here's your Luigi's Mansion ghost raid boss anon
>>555473780plese link when its done
>>555473830bro the cinematic was so dogshit people actually compared it to My Little Pony
>>555472994Not until they get someones whos quirky "hyperfixation" is dwarves on the art team.Then you'll get 5 pages of customization options even down to individual public hairs.
>>555473917That's pretty retarded because it was literally a copy of a marvel movie.
>>555473202it fits the story desu. horde & alliance recently enjoyed years of prosperity and economic growth free from outside threats. overnight miracles of tech, shipping, magical advancements. their society is so bloated and obese they have forgotten what patriotism is. grizzled stormwind veterans stayed indoors for 5 years and flooded themselves with estrogens by rearing their children, they're now letting black dragon experiments walk freely in their city, eat and have sex with the horses in the stables in broad daylight, making up slurs to describe people who want lizards out their city
At least paypigs don't act like they're morally superior in Retail.Pay pigs in Classic fund every single thing they do with buying gold and then act like they're better than you at the game. But if you take credit card away, they wouldn't be allowed into Naxx because they wouldn't be able to afford the tier and they wouldn't be Exalted with Argent Dawn because they can't pay for anything. Kek.
>>555473974Frienship is magic, all about feelings and peace n stuff. You know, definitely what WARCRAFT is about.
What's a PH Quest?
>>555473838He looks like a malnourished voidwalker, like they summoned him from void kenya with the promise of food.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/stormwind-and-orgrimmar-updates-considered-in-interview-with-pc-gamer-380127
>>555473917It was literally just the Avengers thoughever
>>555473838God I am so bored of the """cosmic""" void blob people.
>>555473606I trust my wifey. I dont need to ask herhttps://files.catbox.moe/8f3jtf.png
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>>555473765>they didn't comply
>>555473838who is this nigga
Which one would be the best to main out of Feral Druid, Survival Hunter, Outlaw Rogue, or Frost Mage? I don't really care about being "meta" or top tier, but I do want to be able to get into parties and not be seen as or literally be utter shit. I also want to play something fun that rewards the time I put into it.
>>555474063>it's realLMAO!!!!!
>>555474063>let's make orgrimmar and stormwind run at 20 fps Pass. Valdrakken, Dorn and nu-Silvermoon run like utter dogshit when people are there.
fuck off im sick of garrosh orgrimmar and cataclysm stormwind, they need revamps
I’m honestly not sure who’s worse written between J’lor, Fyrakk, and Xal’atath.>j’lor with his 5D chess retcon plan>Fyrakk just being a lame and gay copy of Deathwing>Xal’atath having plot powers where everyone acts retarded whenever she’s on screen
>>555473838I wish they went with a more monstrous look to void mobs like the ones from League. Insectoids, squids, just everything bizarre and unsettling should have been the aesthetic, but we got blueberries instead. Grim
>>555473838As a 3D artist I can tell a female made this. Women are always the organic free flow, wild made up proportion modellers because it's easier to make random formless shit that doesn't look good.
>>555473830Because there is zero buildup to it aside from a single line buried in quest text at the start of Emerald Dream questing where Alexstrazsa says she's reached out to allies for help. It comes completely out of nowhere, there is no questline where you travel the world appealing to everyone for aid, it all just happens offscreen.This happens constantly anymore: they establish a plot point, immediately get bored with it or have no interest in actually exploring it, then rush to the conclusion of that plot thread 5 minutes later and are confused that people don't find it satisfying.
>>555474305xal'atath desufyrakk and j'lorm while being walking jokes/memes, were at least midly entertainingxal'atath is just boring
>>555473479Just wait for Cata Remix bro
Remember when you were following npcs you'd follow them all the way? instead of npcs taking 5 steps then disappearing into the air? I remember
>>555474326>demon>pecs>white hairwhew no thnx, yuck why does wowg love hags
>>555474639pecs?
>>555474639wowg loves foxes
What the hell happened to this motherfucker?
>>555474326Insectoids and squids are both old God territory though.The void should be formless shadow and suggestions of shapes, but it's hard to really do that well.
>>555474475>unc has dreams of the chicken escort quest in tanaris again
>>555474781
>>555474475>nooooo they cant just vanish before my eyes!>they need to run off into no where for 25 minutes and THEN vanish!!
>>555474052Ok but again that's completely unrelated to the marvel shit they copied
>>555474305>plot powers where everyone acts retarded whenever she’s on screenso every villain?
>>555474475I wish the developers could see issues like this. I introduced my wife to the game recently. Do you know how hard it is to explain to someone who has not played this why "characters are just appearing and disappearing". She was playing the DH starting zone, and they literally have npc's running around vanishing nonsensically everywhere. The games engine is a fucking mess, but we've been playing forever so we just accept it. This is such a glaring issue for this game regarding new players but they will never see.
>>555474925ThisI could doomscroll on tiktok in that 24 minutesL unc
>>555474789Shit.
>>555474859
>>555474962>>>>>le so every villain??? XD I’m so heckin’ fungus!!!11Die, troon. You know this isn’t true.
>>555474329loli >>>>>>>>>>> adult
Back up btw
>>555474793>Insectoids and squids are both old God territory though.Void lords should've been that but x10, I'm talking lovecraftian horror type stuff. That way, the old god's being a reflection of them would have made sense even more. The void being shadowy and formless is just boring even though it does check out.
how to complete this
>>555474063I'm not that happy about getting the cities to run like shit but if it happens can we go back to the glory days of BFA and have race slums? Lets keep the dirty vulperas and fag dragons outside of the city, Pandas and Tauren are chill so they can stay inside, maybe give Goblins a neighborhood
>>555475185Fly up
i play arms warrior on a controller using consoleport
So what the entire point of N'ztoh, Yog etc just to invest a planet, only for Dimensius to end up eating it (and them eventually)?That doesn't sound like it makes much sense desu, why would the Old Gods want to be eaten?
now that feral's been gutted and no longer a hard spec to play, what are some other hard specs to switch to
>>555475185https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/void-perforations-world-quest-objectives-not-spawning-or-objective-is-at-wrong-map-location/2238791It's bugged if you have completed Twilight Highlands before, due to phasing retardednessThe funny thing is characters that have never done any quests in TH can complete it easily
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Nedrand_the_EyegorgerI noticed this guy spawns near Firebeard's Patrol, and his beard happens to be red.Coincidence?
Which alliance race has the best DK visuals?
>>555475018>>555474789This demon of pure deception and lies is surely transformed his life. What do you mean? Open borders for Stormwind BTW.
>>555475387they already fixed it, I did the whole zone and completed it
>>555475403that's just the death knight hair color, got no real meaning to it, you had isle expedition npcs in bfa with dk hair colors
When is the next worldquest?
>>555475513no they didn't i cant complete it
>>555475519Why are some Twilight's Blade Cultists death knights?
>>555473838>they summoned him from void kenya with the promise of food.
>>555475378Because the Old Gods are controlled by Void Lords which are controlled by Xallatat'h which are controlled (something) which is controlled by Blizzard Devs which the devs are controlled by some random anons that have freedom of expression on a mongolian basketboard forum where /wowg/ is listened by those devs>ok schizoThis is the reality just fucking accept it nigger
>>555474329where's her orc lover
>>555473664post room irl
I am excited for Season 1 of Midnight. Can't wait to pug!
it's up for real
>>555475947Your experience will be sitting in Silvermoon for 50 minutes looking for a healer before the group leader go "yeah this isn't happening sorry guys" and disbanding the group.
>>555476048My experience is playing tank and carrying cuties while you seethe about it.
>>555475018we off him in a quest
>>555476048>xhe thinks healers used addonsthe same bitching crowd that bitches about everything is grifting over addons, nothing's changed and even in beta there are more healers and tanks than usual
>>555476215>grifting over addonsthat word doesn't mean what you think it means
I've decidedI've finally decided on a mainI'm taking monkpill. I will be maining mistweaver.Why?Healing is the most comfy role in the game while also being a needed asset in every aspect of the game's group content. I will get into groups with ease while also having windwalker as a backup spec to rely on if I'm ever in the melee mood. Or I could just fistweave! I could even go brewmaster for solo content!!I'm a genius.
>>555476215NOOO THE XITTER NARRATIVE M+SISSIES THIS CHUD IS TALKING FACTS NOOOOOO
>>555474305The biggest problem with Xal'atath is that they decided to keep dragging her on for 3 expansions. Hate or love Fyrakk, but when the focus was on him he was sieging the world tree in the next patch already.
>>555476384There is nothing comfy about healing people.
>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN>extended maintenance AGAIN>>extended maintenance AGAIN
>he pays for a game where he has to watch every month for "bug fixes"
>>555475117>arthas>gul'dan>garrosh>azshara>all of legion and the useless burning legion being incompetent the entire xpaconly troon enablers like revisionism
>>555476194When?
>>555475947PUGGOD
>>555476697Midnight, void storm chain
they're going to ruin silvermoon, aren't they?
>>555476671thats actually crazy bro. now that I think about it, the only games with bugs I deal with are games I pirated that are either EA or just came out of EA recently...
>>555476921live service games are bug fiestas, at least league is free but is worse than wow in terms of game breaking bugs and shit balance that might as well count as unfixed bugs
>>555476504Healing is funnest when it isn't comfy, when there's a struggle to keep everyone healthy, when the group makes mistakes that you have to cover for.That feeling of knowing a wipe was avoided because you used the right cool down at the right time is my heroin
>>555476813Is it because he betrays or is it le light is actually evil too.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/DWnBKfnMvnoMmKwDg6Txuw/
>>555476892Zones are about the only thing they can still do right sometimes.
>>555477143His role and death are actually pretty cool, it's in a dungeon not a quest
>>555477283>all empty nothingness due to skyridingnaw man
>>555477324Good to hear, thanks
>>555476892https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1dPTAQ5_U
>>555477367dragonflight zones are the opposite of empty zones albeit? the most flavour filled zones by far.tww ones are dogshit in general but credit where it's due
>>555474997>dude what about the new players with aphantasia and no internal monologue that can't mentally process the illusion of NPCs despawnign after they walk away it's complete nonsense how is anyone on earth supposed to understand this is an obfuscation and illusion of them traveling without you it's ableist to not have 1000 instances of thee same NPC walking all over thee wolrd constantly to explain how every player is helping them at different locations
ion gonna cost us well no hes gonna cost blizzard because this man is a lawyer from a law firm in washington that law firm Wilmer, Cutler, Pickering, Hale, and Dorr LLP that lawfirm is connected to the CIA.
>>555477062when its meant to happen yes, but when its fake stress from a horrible shit tier tank then it's not good.When people get chunked by casts I dont give a fuck, I dont go out of my way to heal them, because everyone knows thats not on me. If people get globaled I don't feel bad and neither should you.
>>555476384I mained Holy Pala in TWW and I hate it now, feels like shit
can I get the cultist title on a trial account? I don't want to pay money just to log in for a prepatch.
>>555477652idk find out?
>people complained that if Collapsing Star cast was interrupted you lost all resources>Blizzard patched it, but you still can't cast it again if interrupted small indie company
>>555476892From what i've seen the new part of Silvermoon is shit - just a giant open plaza (thanks skyriding) with all the relevant vendors standing out in the open in a circle around the main campaign questgiver building. At least the Horde only part looked pretty cool since they were forced to reuse the old layout there so it feels like an actual city
>>555477367Dragonflight zones are shit, cramped zones full of shit to convey a false sense of scale
>open delvers bounty>get nothing????????
there is a rewards chest for completing the milestones my brown neighborhood just completed the first one entirely because of me but i cant click on the chest
>pres ruined>oracle priest ruined>mistweaver ruinedguess im done being a healsissy then. Is enhance still fun or did they fuck that up too
>>555477506trvke so nukey it made some retard reply to the wrong post kek
>>555477558>flying together on a double mount>simply leave stormwind >she's now instanced into another zone while bnet says she's no longer online>right next to me irl, shes clearly still onlineya nah this shit is broken as fuck and you know it
>>555478078Better than the old enhance even.
Which one of you virgins is camping the catch up experience area killing literally everyone logging in
>>555478310lol is that happening
>>555478271better than TWW tempest slop, nothing will ever beat 10.2 tier set enhancement though.
>>555477613I still enjoy it, I find it enjoyable trying to brute force a weaker group. I feel like it's within my responsibility to shore up people being chunked by casts, I used to feel bad about globals when I had an interrupt but that's gone now haha
>>555478357yeah and blizzard in their infinite wisdom has a 2 minute respawn timer so he can camp freely
warlocks won
is frost mage kino now, can any mage fags weigh in
Is wow a gooner game or are there just a lot of gooners that play wow?
>>555478497Kek this is very based but he'll probably get banned because someone's feelings get hurt
>>555478310>>555467829
>>555478585Looks like I'm about to learn arena.
>>555478585bro every single normal set is better than the others
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1qp4h3i/new_blood_elves_voiceovers_are_lame/people are noticing
>>555478621Arcane is top dpsFrost is fineFire owari da
>>555478072shoulda read the tooltip closerno refunds
>>555478621they simultaneously made it more clunky and with lower skill expression than tww mage while also making it more unintuitive at the same time. it's the worst of both worlds, it's less fun for casuals and high end players alike
>>555478707you can do battleground blitz as well, i got elite last season as single button rotation with my ret pala i never pvped on before
>>555478649Oh yeah I reported him just because it would be funny if he got his money stolen for killing people who are in a cutscene
Man, you know it's bad when Blizzard's greatest brown noser is turning against his masters.
>>555478937It's the same deal as the Arathi Highlands story, everyone that plays PTR/beta warns you how dogshit it is but it's not until release that people truly understand and start complaining en masse
a new below eh delon a
>>555479194I'm not gonna lie, Evitel talking about gaping void holes was hot.
okay so lets pretend that midnight and last titan both flop hardrealistically what happens then, will they flat out kill WoW?
>>555479332She said "sucked off" on purpose.
>>555479194what's wrong with E's nose?
>>555479427the next expansion releases
>>555479493assuming microsoft dont disband wow entirely after both fail
>>555478937They are probably some of the worst V/os this game has ever had. The fucking literal child dying of cancer who voices that Tauren missing dog quest does a better job trying his best to sound like a Tauren than these SoCal voice actors. Also one of the female blood elf npc voices sounds like she’s deaf?
>>555479553yeah and then you wake up, logging into the game because you're addicted
I've missed these lil buggers
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>>555479092>you can do battleground blitz as well, i got elite last season as single button rotation with my ret pala i never pvped on beforedamn, thx anon. That's the way to go.
>>555479553how would microsoft dismantle wow? would that lawyer bastard dont work for wow anymore? what about the tech that made wow?
>>555465714Belves being utterly incompetent is lore accurate though, did you even play warcraft 3?
>>555496405sl and bfa has to be the fucking stupidest things done to wow lore i mean whats the fucking point of wcIII then? Might was well lore reset at this point beginning with garrosh trial during war crimes.
