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Vote Silver Edition

>Latest patch:
https://www.playdeadlock.com/oldgods

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>555646682
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I hope Venator is next but I don't see it happening. If Apollo was next it'd be the best upset but I rhink it's undeniably going to be Silver.
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Remember to vote for Silver
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BRING ME THE NECROMANCER
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VOTE HOLY MAN
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>>555672127
WIFEWOLF
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>>555672061
>Her wall/root is incredibly aids to deal with at times and in a teamfight you may in fact walk into it several times since it can tag you for each step you take into it.
As a heads up if you get rooted by her 3, it won't be able to root you again until you leave its area then re-enter it
If you stay on the line after being rooted once it won't re-root you
Of course this is by no means a way to counter it but I think it's worth mentioning
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We're hat brothers!
Brothers fore LIFE OvO
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>>555672019
>>555672127
>>555672224
uwu
*Nuzzles and wuzzles your necky-wecky*
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they need to fix graves ghouls ai sometimes they derp out and just stand there
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gargoyle ass
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yeah okay maybe i should keep to bots
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What if we had a mode where chars antagonistic to each other on the same team could kill and damage their allies?
Imagine drifter wiping his own team, getting a shitload of kills early on and soloing the enemy patron?
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>>555672127
no
Vote Venator instead fellas ,its what jesus wants
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>>555672186
Baaaased faithchad.
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so graves is basically viable at every build type right?
playable gun and spirit builds, even melee scaling on her ult if you want to meme.
rem really has to be the worst character of the bunch.
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>silver and venator fans fighting it out
>i'm looking forward to playing any of the 4 remaining characters
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>>555672430
>playable gun
Playable yes, good ehhh questionable. Same items, haze does nearly 50% more damage. It's viable but I wouldn't really lean heavily into gun. She's very much a spirit character.
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Why does this game still not have a concede button? Ever since Drifter was added and each match has the new heroes which are just completely busted, comebacks just arent possible anymore.
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>>555672602
Fuck off
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>>555672374
your build isn't helping
just go full gun build, it's much more noob friendly and better in low elo anyway
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>>555672602
go play your "waaah, I didn't get my pentakill, waah, I surreeeeeeender" game
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>>555672472
A new one dropped?
Battler is feeding us go-oo-ood!
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after these 6 hopefully they devote more focus to adding more items rather than heroes
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>>555672602
Just git gud
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SEX WITH GRAVES
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>>555672712
I hope he keeps it up.
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>>555672730
>Why is there a male loneliness crisis
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>>555672472
Helpers are shit after laning, they need a buff. Otherwise I like his kit. He's fun to play.
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>>555672602
Comeback is very much possible in this game, moreso than most mobas
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>>555672720
how often would you add heroes in this game after the starting set is ready
twice a year?
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>>555672720
What kind of items would you want them to add?
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fucking NIGGER i was having fun in this match too
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>>555672602
So many leaguetrannies playing our games.
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i love graves and i like her VA but some of her line delivery falls a little flat, especially her ult lines
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>>555672602
>comebacks just aren't possible anymore
I've had crazy comebacks and lost games where the enemy team came back this week, but I've also duo queued with some lower rank friends and seen what kind of shit goes on in Emissary/Archon so I could understand why a shitlow retard faggot like yourself would think that
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>>555672374
There is literally nothing more pathetic than playing bot matches to "learn"
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>>555672658
i was trying to deal with the pocket nuking half my hp with one hit from q
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Apollo will get in before Celeste. I will bet $5 on this
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>>555672860
>but some of her line delivery falls a little flat
a bit deadpan, isn't she?
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>>555672398
I'm voting Venator so he gets more porn. I hope people draw him getting raped by Billy
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If you invite someone to the game and they get banned for something, can you get banned too?
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>>555672472
direct link?
reverse search refuses to work
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>>555672970
Damn, last of the big spenders here
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holy fucking based seven
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>>555672602
>comebacks just arent possible anymore.
I literally just finished playing a 60 minute game where we defended our base against Wraith with rejuve twice. The new bases definitely make comebacks way more viable.
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Graves is cute and hot and all as an American goth chick, but I imagined her as a Japanese-speaking goth mesugaki one(1) time and felt my cock leap to attention like a soldier on parade
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>>555673181
>Japanese-speaking goth mesugaki
please off yourself
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>>555673051
Yes, but I think it's ONLY for cheating, so if they get banned for their behavior you get nothing.
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>>555672842
Rip their balls off
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>>555673093
https://x.com/RedDotNursery/status/2017116752350761435
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>>555672962
im referring to the monster rounds, weakening headshot and merc mag buys, as well as enchanters which would be right for full spirit warden but otherwise pointless
your priority items as warden in low elo should be vamp burst and hollow point, then sprinkle some point blank/burst fire/lucky shot/glass cannon in there
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>>555673220
We frogged him then we all got kicked from the match, I was pwning too its so fucked up...
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>>555672970
They're releasing them in order of doneness to buy more time to finish the one's that got leaked late. Celeste and Silver will be last. Next will be Venator, then Apollo.
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>>555673216
So any time you invite someone you're risking losing access to the game?
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Holy shit graves is good. I might play her more than apollo if apollo isnt another alternative attack type character.

Not having to aim like an adderall chimp is such a godsend
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How the fuck do I play Lash
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>>555673210
grandpa still mad about pearl harbor
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Lash is a weak character and everything except his 4 is basically useless.
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>>555673256
thank you
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>reddit is turning on silver
venatorchads... monday
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His skin tone is the same as Mina and he's even paler than canonically white characters like Lash or McGinnis
Are we sure he's actually Middle Eastern? Look at his eyes, look at his man-bun, his vintage flintlock pistol. there's a very good chance he's a white guy from Washington LARPing in ethnic dress after reading Lovecraft.
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>>555672398
>>555672127
>future husband and wife being out on the same week
This is truly hmofa-kino
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>>555673482
Thank you for saying thank you.
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>>555673448
your jirai-kei mesugakis live like literal hobos on the streets under copious amounts of laughing gas
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>>555673275
i got the monster rounds to try to cs better but i get what you mean on the other two, thanks for the tip
i always feel super squishy though and idk why, not even just warden but it feels like everyone does more damage to me than i do to them no matter what i build
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>>555673601
Even better. Imagine how tweaked out Graves(Japanese mesugaki ver.) would be in bed
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>>555673578
Maybe he's bosnian or Turkish? that was my headcanon anyway
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>>555673601
In today's dating economy, such girls are a luxury
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>>555673318
Actually nevermind I misremembered: it's only if you cheat that every person you invited gets banned:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/07-18-2024-update.11831/
Unless they changed it since then and also added the opposite case. So if you invite a cheater it's fine, if you get invited by a cheater then you'll get your access revoked.
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>>555669108
>the meta gag humor that was shown when he first came out
Could you elaborate on this?
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>Viscous gun has an alt-fire on M2
What the fuck, why didn't any of you tell me? Are there any other heroes with special M2s?
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>Duo using their pauses to BM and they manage to blow their early lead and lose anyway
I love putting little faggots in their place
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>>555673481
>1k damage aoe nukes every 10 seconds are le bad
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>>555673724
Yamato and Shiv
Shiv's can be used for movement too
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Yoshi add indian toon or raceswap Lash
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>Graves 1 used to be a normal zombie summon

NOOOOOOO
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Lash players make me want to cry which I guess is the point of Lash
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Standard is basically unplayable right now.
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>>555673910
>that doorman
i'm with him in spirit
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Why do people still pretend there's a way to comeback from a 100k soul lead?
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>>555673695
wait, so if any one of those giant "FREE INVITE ADD ME" guys gets banned for cheating, they risk banning hudreds of other unrelated accounts too?
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>>555673910
Doorman more like Doormat.
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>>555673910
>paige dynamo
god damn some people really just want to play the most cancerous bullshit imaginable
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>>555673910
Games with a fed Abrams are so funny. He just smacks everyone to death while never dying.
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>>555673126
The bases are the exact same except the shrines are elevated.
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>>555673849
sorry dude gotta dumb it down to flying ghosts because deadlock is made for the autoaim audience now
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>>555673910
I've had a lot of 0-10s on my team the past week. Lotta tourists ruining games.
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>>555673910
how do you even die 10 times with no kills on doorman
bells are spammable as fuck
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Why do graves zombies blow up instead of just acting like minions? That's lame
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>play random streetbrawl
>face the absolute sweatiest, metagaming motherfuckers ever
THANKS VALVE FOR MAKING THIS "FUN"MODE INTO A METAFAGGING SWEATFEST BY LETTING EVERYONE PICK THE SHIT THEY WANT AGAINST PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANTING TO PLAY RANDOM SHIT
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Balance patch WHEN ? Option for random characters only in Brook WHEN ?
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>>555674048
The pit isn't the same at all. It's wide open now.
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>graves' lore is that she jerked off too many men that her hand became possessed with all the dead souls from the sperm
Wtf???
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>>555673126
>The new bases definitely make comebacks way more viable.
How so? To me they look way worse for defending than the old ones but I'm an emissary shitter
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>>555673982
Unless they changed it since then yeah. Also I don't know if it's an actual ban or just getting banned from the closed playtest until open beta/release rolls around.
Possible Volvo makes an exception for those big accounts too.
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>>555674089
WE RUN AND THEN WE EXPLODE
necromancer with exploding zombies has been a staple since at least D2
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>>555673910
Oh man.
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I really hate Wraith's design. In a game set in NYC, the iconic
>Tommy gun-using
>Fedora-sporting
>Oversized suit-wearing
>Poker-playing degenerate gambler
Italian mobster archetype gets stolen by some skinny black chick. We could have had Tony Soprano kino. Just look at her man wtf is this
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vote venator
>>555674353
unironically one of the best designs in the game
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>>555674353
tony lived in new jersey, not new york
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>>555674353
Anon ... Italians have always been black.
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>>555674353
all italian "mafioso" are niggers
always have been
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>>555674393
>>555674417
>>555674428
Really funny. We gots ourselves a buncha wiseguys in here
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>>555673578
bro he's had like one model pass, he has untextured everything. hes gonna have a full shitskin paintjob in a few months
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>>555674353
She's female MJ with a tommy gun, literally one of the best designs in the game
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>>555674352
>0/13
>1/10
>1/10
jesus christ
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>>555674353
She's indian thats why she runs casino and scams people
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>>555674353
>gambler character
>none of her abilities are rng
that's the only part where they messed up honestly
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>>555674353
She was made during the SBI era.
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okay they seriously have to rebalance graves skull jar, you cannot simply light melee and kill all the skulls instantly for like 30 souls for free lol, what are they thinking?
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>>555673976
I've come back from 50k soul leads. 100k soul leads never happen anon
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>>555673718
idk if they are still in the game or not but he had a bunch of meta/4th wall breaking references in his dialogue like complaining about shiv only having to press 4 or calling abrams very original for doing a melee build
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>>555672019
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>>555674034
How much debuff resist do you need to have to counter Abram's upgraded charge?
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>>555673578
Ive never seen a useful Mirage. I dont think useful ones exist they are always fucking around like retards somewhere
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>>555673337
Become the asshole
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>>555674352
The only time I've managed to win a standard match after the update was when I played Seven.
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>>555674353
Wraith is aids but her design is one of the most stylish and distinctive ones in the game, up there with Seven and Doorman. If you're going to bitch about minorities go bitch about that lumpy grandma Talon instead
Also Italians aren't and have never been white
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>>555674707
Being carried along by his charge isn't a debuff, only the stun after you get smashed into terrain is. So the correct answer is "never enough" debuff resist because if he wants you rape you and you let him get into rape range of you, you are going to be raped.
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>>555674705
Thats it, another vote for Venator
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>>555674719
because most people are morons who think Mirage is a gun carry
you build green and purple on him, not orange
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>>555674719
I want to play him but I'm bad and would feed and would feel bad about feeding so I don't
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>>555674353
Wraith is cool as hell
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>>555674789
Yeah that's what I mean
Because I know before it's upgraded you can mash parry and stuff him if he tries to heavy
But once it's upgraded you can't do that anymore unless you have enough debuff resist to lower the stun back into mashable range
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I always want to buy Tier 4 items instead of Tier 3. I know it's not good but I'm like a rich Chinese auntie in a jewelry shop man I want those 6400 dollaridoo bling bling ching chang chaching items
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what's the point of purple haze
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>>555674940
To grief you. Yes, (you), specifically.
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>>555674857
max out 3
stack CDR
pop them for 2k+ damage every few seconds
>>555674940
one of the few instant CCs in the game
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I know this is coomer-adjacent but Lady Geist's ass and legs clip through her skirt in a way that's really annoying visually
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>>555674940
Being a hybrid versus haze being strictly gun. Since haze's spirit builds are mostly memes.
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>>555674705
This, but in reverse. I'm the drunk beating her
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>>555674060
i'm trying anon
it's not going well but i'm trying my best, i'm sorry
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>>555674891
From what I remember, but you'll have to check with a friend: T2 Debuff reducer or Weighed Shots allow a parry. If the Abrams has superior duration: you're out of luck unless maybe you stack debuff remover/reducer + weighed shots.
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>>555674940
Distortion.
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>>555674779
I have a theory.
Today I queued on Mirage, Dynamo, Ivy, Paige, and Wraith
Out of all those matches only Mirage and Wraith games had a coordinated team that communicated and actually played the game normally.
All my "support" games had blithering retards that didn't respond to pings and fed to the point the whole enemy team had killstreak portraits.
MM may be prioritizing search for newer players if you q support.
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>You can shoot Graves 1 skulls
>You can shoot Graves 4 zombies
>BUT NO YOU CAN'T SHOOT THE TOMBSTONE YOU HAVE TO HEAVY MELEE IT
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>>555675198
flesh is weak
rock is eternal
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>>555675145
>>555674891
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/%3Fid%3D3350928433
Actually just read this, I think it's up to date.
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>>555675145
Gotcha
Thanks for the info
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>>555675198
>shooting a rock
bruhv
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>>555675198
You dare refuse to melee my tombstone?
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>>555675393
Melee your what?
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>>555675421
Prepare to feel the wrath of the Hidden King's claws
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so where is the best place to make it annoying to get to the gravestone so people can't destroy it
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>>555675491
celeste supposedly has a gun that has ricochet.
it can bounce onto herself too if the leaks are to be trusted.
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>>555675393
>we can't shoot the tombstone due to spiritual zellbrigen
kek
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Is this a bug? I bought Extra Charge but none of my abilities have an extra charge
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RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
>RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
>RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
>RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
>RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
>RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
>RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
>RANDOM ONLY QUEUE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT IT FOR GODS SAKE
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>>555674060

First game after Graves dropped
>lane partner claims it's first game
>graves abusing infinite ammo bug
>partner feeds ass off
>rest of the team screaming about me the entire game
>end game with most player and obj damage
>Oracle V lobby

This game is way too often a perfect storm for cancerous experiences
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>>555675613
max 2
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>>555675615
>splitting the queues even further with such a small playerbase
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>>555675613
It only gives bonus charges to abilities that already have charges.
For geist that's only your maxed lifedrain.
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>>555675639
>first game
>oracle V
Yoshi what the fuck
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>>555675658
YES
GAMEMODE WOULD BE FUN IF NOT FOR SEVEN/BEBOP/GINNIS EVERY GODDAMN FUCKING GAME
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Why are people so fucking allergic to just building basic defensive items? Why are support players so adamant about building spirit when a reactive barrier would stop them from getting farmed on cooldown by Lash?
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>>555675546
your side of the map on a sidelane then skidaddle off to a real fight
guaranteed walker damage unless they spend nearly half a minute killing your ghouls
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>>555675613
some abilities lock charges behind upgrades, look at them
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>>555675615
>Get random queue
>Still bitch about the enemy team getting all the good heroes and your team getting all the bad heroes
Ohhhhhh
Round and round we go
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>>555675198
It's even worse because you often take guaranteed damage from spawning zombies when you break it. Honestly, I feel like Graves will be the first character to get a full revamp at some point because her current kit is really junk and not fun for either side. Also zombies AI is just too bad
This is alpha test for a reason
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>>555675639
>infinite ammo bug
sliding isn't a bug
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Time to hate myself for a while
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>>555675613
Geist doesn't have a charge ability except for her T3 Life Drain which turns it into a charge ability. How to reckognize charge abilities : they have one or more bars above the skill icon. Some abilities gain extra charge as you upgrade them, others only get one charge and it's up to you to buy extra charge/rapid recharge (example: Sinclair's Vexing Bolt).
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>>555675741
HOLDING ONTO PAIN
DRIVEN BY OUR EGOS
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>>555675652
>>555675680
>>555675732
>>555675781

Oh I see thanks, I guess I brought it way too early then
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>>555675613
max out succ
purple Geist sucks anyways (hahaha)
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>>555675750
no, graves was released where if you had one of her abilities ready, you could shoot infinitely
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>>555675713
We don’t need full random to solve that, just give players a choice between 3-4 randomly selected heroes before the match starts like how items are given
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>>555675741
FOUND THE SEVEN/GINNIS/BEBOP SPAMMER

RANDOM ONLY STREETBRAWL WHEN VOLVO
>RANDOM ONLY STREETBRAWL WHEN VOLVO
RANDOM ONLY STREETBRAWL WHEN VOLVO
>RANDOM ONLY STREETBRAWL WHEN VOLVO
RANDOM ONLY STREETBRAWL WHEN VOLVO
>RANDOM ONLY STREETBRAWL WHEN VOLVO
RANDOM ONLY STREETBRAWL WHEN VOLVO
>RANDOM ONLY STREETBRAWL WHEN VOLVO
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I want to randomly rape
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>>555675741
What are the odds with a full random draft of getting in a single team at least two of those: Bebop, Dynamo, Seven, Lash, Graves ? Because that happens almost every single game right now.
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>>555675884
Nah
I spam Infernus and Mina
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>>555672517
>everyone shitposting and I just want New Shit
All I hope is that Silver and Apollo are fun so I have new characters to add to my roster.
I was hoping Victor was gonna be that but he just doesn't feel right.
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>>555675491
This artist and drawing is underated.
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>hero brawl
>max ult and steal graves ult on cd
this is kinda fun
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Do we know if Silver's werewolf form is a permaswap or a timed change?
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>>555676120
Absolutely zero clue
Leaks have mentioned both styles of transformation and there's been not much else regarding it
Personally I think it'll be a timed change like Lycanthrope's ult but with some new abilities
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graves is underwhelming. She is incredibly good in lane, but I have a feeling she will get nerfed hard. Her 1 is already OP as fuck and her ult is weird. Overall her kit is worse than Rem somehow idk.
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I convinced my whole team to build return fire to stand on the graves zombies to instakill her but then we never actually tried it
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Rem is obviously an icefraud hero
Now what about graves?
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>>555676228
Just shoot the skulls or buy ricochet if you're building gun and the skulls aren't an issue
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rem: has cool gimmicks
graves: very underwhelming gimmick that gets deleted with a press of q
lmao
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I really don't get paradox
trying to build her as damage seems like a trap since even a maxed out carbine shot with a ton of weapon damage items doesn't do that much damage. her three round burst shot also just doesn't lean itself well to sustained physical damage.
So I've been trying to build her as a tanky utility support since the swap and the wall seem like the strongest abilities but they don't feel strong enough to warrant their high cooldowns. thats even with buying transcendent cooldown.
maybe building spirit and focusing on pulse grenade? But the scaling on grenade doesnt seem that amazing.
its definitely annoying for enemies mid to late game when they get swapped and frozen with arctic blast in a pulse field though so maybe the damage amp stacks make up for so-so spirit scaling.
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>Update happens
>I am suddenly Emissary 1 instead of Ritualist 1
>Think it's a rank rebalance like before
>It's not
>I'm actually getting outplayed at every step of the way by the enemy team
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I fucking love building green as graves lmao
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>op smurf mina
>just stun maxx with curse, slowing hex, knockdown to put pressure on her using debuff remover perfectly
>win the game
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>>555675884
Why everyone insists that Bebop is OP in brawl? I've won every game against him in this mode. You just hide from his ult and then kick his ass.
I mainly play as Billy, Viper and Yamato, and probably have around 65-70% winrate.
Miku also doesn't feel as strong as everyone says.
On Seven I would agree. Unless you get anvil or spirit res his ult is OP. But you still can recover from it if you are not completely fucked by rng.
Lash is also very strong if he manages to land an ult.
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>>555674353
100% agreed and I sort of expected whoever had a chicago typewriter to be a lot sillier and/or only use it for their ultimate to blast other characters
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I feel like Grave's kit just doesn't flow well, there's no real synergy between abilities.
Also why is she tagged as "area denial" when only her two does that
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>Graves used to be more focused on just summoning minion zombies
As cool as that'd be, it'd be hard shut down by any kind of elevation on top of being at the mercy of AI pathing so it makes sense why they switched to the floating skulls as her bread and butter
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>>555676721
Why the fuck is Warden there
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>>555676430
Every time I see someone doing well with her they build a bunch of gun early, mostly headshot items, then transition into utility spellcaster as the game goes on.
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>>555674060
i'm doing my best...
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what if deadlock was meant to be set in the Ricochet universe
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>>555676798
I havnt even played her and I can tell shes a powerful laner but mid-late game?
meh
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The way I learned Dota was randoming for the first 500 hours, and I'll do the same here. Good luck teammates.
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>>555676430
paradox has been nerfed many times, she's just not strong anymore, maybe the top 0.1% make her work still but if you're gonna play her, best to treat her as a support/utility char with some okayish burst potential
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>>555674705
Alright, I'll start voting for Silver.
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>>555676915
Maybe I should start doing that
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>>555676783
>Skulls deny the area where they land if Graves tags you (or generally in her vicinity)
>Line denies a chunk of area for its duration unless you wish to be rooted multiple times
>Tombstone spawn zombies that explode for a lot of damage which also baits out heavy melees for easy parries
She's got plenty of area denial
>>555676887
Mid to late you really want to be sticking with your team when you're not pushing lanes
The larger the fight, the better she performs as enemies will be too busy to shoot down your skulls or play around your wall
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I love these post game portraits honestly

>>555676096
Yeah I've been doing the same as Sinclair, it's stupid funny to see mine do like 3x the damage of hers
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who are the rattiest heroes
i'm really bad at the whole pvp aspect of the game and would rather farm and push lanes forever because i'm scared of feeding
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>>555675748
if they didn't rework a single ability in shiv's or victor's kit then they're not gonna even bother until launch, sorry bruv. the REAL playtesters (from the super secret build you're not allowed to play) decided what was best for you :)
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>doesn't require any aiming or even ability skill since AI does damage for you, basically plays herself
>underaged girl
Is Graves for the gacha crowd?
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>>555677094
McGinnis
Ivy
Seven
Infernus
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>>555677159
>have to be within a bees dick of range to be able to left-click
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>>555677121
She literally had a completely different kit until very recently >>555676798
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>>555676887
if a character's lane is strong, they will rape the whole game
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>be graves
>tell team to push a lane and i'll be with them after i clear a wave + set down my ult
>they all split up
>gravestone useless
>they do nothing
>we lose
cool
this hero seems worthless if your team is actually brain damaged
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>>555677178
Doorman is really good too if you are building specifically to rat.
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have you guys gotten graves without a ticket or is it almost impossible?
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>think Doorman is cool as fuck
>know i will never, ever be able to do the kooky bullshit he requires like carting people through doors
>get sad when i look at him
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>>555677236
Her laning is strong because she has good build in sustain and is hard to push into due to her skulls and walls
However her chase potential is very lacking due to her bad mobility and long CDs
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refresher rem is slept on (no pun intended)
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>the only hero with visible pantsu is a jailbait highschooler
I didn't know Valve had the cojones to do something like this
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>>555677226
All of the new heroes have 4+ unused abilities and gun options that were explored in development. Rem was able to copy first abilities like Sinclair at one point.
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>>555677094
Any of the standard m1 carries do it just fine(haze, wraith, infernus).
McGinnis will absolutely shred objectives if given the opportunity but isn't particularly good at escaping consequences, Vyper can be good, doorman is extremely hard to punish if you always keep an exit door ready, Ivy needs a decent amount of farm to come online but is very slippery.
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>>555677283
>this hero seems worthless if your team is actually brain damaged
Yeah she's a bit of a force multiplier in teamfights, but can't really achieve much on her own
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>>555677094
wraith is the rattiest one of them all, insanely high objective damage, innate attack speed buff and getaway for free
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I’m saving my prio token for Venator only
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I got so tilted at this game that I cried and now I have a headache. Who should I prio?
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Graves proves that it's only a matter of time until we get a flamethrower character.
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>>555676638
>punts his own minion with two bombs and mystic reverb into you (last bomb upgrade not even needed)
>3x lane wide explosion damage
nothing personnel kid
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>>555677526
paige
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>>555677526
When I get titled I just go afk in the jungle and mute everyone.
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>>555677556
We had one in testing a long time ago
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so
what's the graves build?
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>>555677374
>Played a standard match without token
>Got her on my first try
Ignore the fact I was in a 4 stack
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>>555677556
Celeste can breathe fire
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>>555677645
headhunter
crippling headshot
mercurial magnum
spirit shredder
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>>555677645
spirit build is refresher and echo shard so you can overwhelm with summons without worrying about your shitty attack range, since both replenish your charges
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>>555677645
Dunno but Echo Shard feels like a must if you want to be shitting out skulls
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Y'know let me just come out and say it. It's a GOOD thing that graves isn't an adult because being fully grown while being that flat is too sad
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Respawn timers are so fucking long lategame
I'm not saying they should be 60 seconds but maybe 2 minutes is too much
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>>555676430

Paradox is weird tempo hero in the midgame that in the late game is good irregardless of build.

So your build should probably focus on her tempo midgame so you can contribute as much as possible. Lategame, you are ALWAYS strong because of her amazing pick potential and strong utility.

Best way to be relevant midgame is a mix of mobility and gun dps.
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>>555677645
Sharpshooter Ricochet
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>>555677880
I feel like that's the point the game itself is telling you
>okay wrap this shit up already
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what's the consensus on lifestrike on viscous
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>>555672127
>>555672224
>>555672336
we need to vote venator to btfo the twittertrannies and reddit bisexuals
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i fucking hate yoshinigger so fucking much, putting me in these nigger lobbies when im trying to learn a new fucking character. like what is this actual dogshit MM holy fuck look at team diff
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>>555677893
>lategame
>get beamed in the head by Paradox with 80k net worth
>take slightly less damage than Pocket hitting a nearby wall with one shot from his 1
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>>555677994
(you)
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>enemies hopeless dive to try and kill tombstone only to overextend and die to the ghouls and my skulls
oh yea baby i missed undying
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>>555677226
yeah retard and how many characters in the "launch" branch have had their abilities reworked? stop deluding yourself
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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You can pause in the intro cinematic and no one will know who it is
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>pause the game at start
>alt+tab and watch youtube
>return after 5 minutes
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>>555678098

Yeah, her scaling late is weak, like others just mentioned. There isn't much to do about that, so focus itemization on when it can make a different.

Lategame, swap is a gamewinning ultimate, and you don't really need to items for it to be good.
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>>555672019
SHES 15 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCKS
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Go to "watch matches" part of the hideout right now there's a match thats 23k to 58k with double digit viewers
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>>555678008
If you want to btfo me personally you need to vote Celeste. I love Venator an Silver and want to try out Appolo. I'm probably eating good next week
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graves...le pedo??

upvotes to the left m'goodsirs
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>brawl keeps giving me headshot items on Rem
STOP
THAT WIGGLY PROJECTILE IS CANCER
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>>555678782
>get talon
>game forces me gun
ugh fine i guess
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>>555678714
15/10
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>>555678714
oh no...?
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>>555676820
Something about his lore/concept has nothing related to being a policeman?
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oof
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it's spreading to the right side wall
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>Enemy team has 3 people building full gun
>Relay this to my team, build appropriately
>Plated, disarming hex, curse, etc.
>Lose because teammates keep insisting on walking alone into sidelanes to be raped to death by Drifter/Warden
>I am the only person on my team who bought a single item that's anti-gun
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Sex with Rem
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>>555677645
Full attack speed(200%)+capacitor
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>>555672602
Bro last night I came back in a game that went right to my patron in their ball form and 50k down in money. They overextended and got lash ultra into our patron, we wiped them, rushed midboss stabilized the game then won.

Please don’t play this game. Your kind will literally ruin it.
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why the fuck did this russian put this in his description for his build
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>>555679481
He's unraveling the world
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>>555679481
Russians seem to like Tokyo Ghoul for some reason
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>not allowed to get close to the fight: the team
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I’m awake what are all the hotfix changes to my girl Graves?
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>>555674719
I saw one build spirit on him and they were solo carrying. I think he teleports around the map or something.
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>>555679481
Autism? A Tokyo Ghoul style hero would be cool however.
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>>555679481
I wish more build descriptions were just amusing shitposts instead of 2000% win/r [lockdeadstats.org] Discord@ faggywaggywoowoo
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>>555679481
The deranged russian with a depressed name and a tokyo ghoul avatar is a well established trope in dota, you see them constantly even on NA.
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>>555678294
shame there's no decay
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>>555679481
Russians are trapped in a time chamber, he is still living through the season 1 release of Tokyo Ghoul.
>>555679625
>active extra limbs that let you freely move vertically or hang in the air as long as there is a piece of terrain for them to cling to and support you from
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>>555679605
Anyone? Any damage reduction on the 1, is it easier to hit? Does her 4 still show up on the map?
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>>555679839
Don't know how to tell you this anon...
they killed her.
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>>555679887
I'm playing her regardless I love her kit I would just like to know.
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Street Brawl is unplayable without Bullet Resist + Spirit Resist + Unstoppable.
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>>555679461
nah no one has fun when they're 100k under
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>Rem
>passive heal
>passive buffs

>graves
>passive area damage
>passive root
>passive, slow walking damage
i dont like this trend, floating or running somewhere doing nothing but passively directing damage is boring
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>>555679676
I'm a big fan of when builds use zoomerspeak, twitch memes and assorted faggotry.
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>>555680285
I’ve never had a 100k diff why the fuck.
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>>555680306
You do not understand what passive means.
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Do you get lifesteal from zombie explosions?
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>>555680306
>use ability
>passive
By that logic, Seven's ball is "passive" too
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>>555680306
>passive
>have to actively press buttons
You're retarded, stick to haze
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>>555680408
well what is it then?
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>>555680474
Don't ask a question that can be tested in 10 seconds in the hideout.
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hows the game for low-end PCs? did they do anything with it??
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>>555680285
Your team has to legit go afk for a 100k souldiff to happen
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>>555680548
very likely worse with all the particle shit they just added
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>>555680548
I can run this shit with 8 gigs of ram. You have zero excuse.
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>>555680498
Those are active abilities you retard. Unless you mean like, they're passive in playstyle. But mechanically they're not what we refer to as "passives". Graves 3 is a passive. Graves 1 has a passive function to it but is not entirely a passive. Abrams 3 is a passive. Shiv rage is a passive.
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>>555680586
fuccccckkkk
>>555680614
i mean i got 8gb too but during clashes it goes 30fps its crazyy
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>>555680548
Apparently pretty well, though I hear that the new update causes stuttering and random dips, and the patron rooms can get a bit rough.
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So what do you do exactly when you have 4 support faggots on your team against Mina, Graves, Drifter, Haze, Mcanus, and Seven
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>>555680732
>4 supports just for (you) and the other retard on your team
Time to shine.
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>my Graves is going spirit nuker

Signs you're about to lose
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>>555680732
>support faggots
mentally?
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>>555680617
viktors aura is passive too, youre standing around doing nothing while that one button you pressed 30s ago shits out damage
>"ohhhh you pressed one button so its an active skill you see!!!!"
hope to god this isnt what the other heros kits look like, braindead, boring shit
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>>555680813
What, you want her to build gun? Or debuff?
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>>555680732
win
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>>555680863
it's a toggled ability not a passive ability
I feel like you're confusing passive as is usual game terminology, with how engaging the ability is to you personally.
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>>555679440
I bet his butthole tastes like chicken
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Do we know anything about Venator's kit? It would be cool if he had an ability that let him swap weapons, instead of just press 1 for shotgun with a cooldown.
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>>555681024
His heavy melee is the shotgun
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>>555680881
Yes either, spirit can be ok if they play pick but nobody does this. There is an ungodly amount of downtime
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>>555681024
Knockback that stuns if they hit a wall. Antiheal grenade. Bear trap. Executing crossbow with multiple shots.
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>>555680863
>press button
>wtf why is my health at 0
you have to MANAGE it by TURNING IT ON or TURNING IT OFF, passives don't require any interaction at all
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>>555681096
No it isn't he lunges at you with a stake. You can literally load up his model with console to look at it.
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>>555680474
yea its spirit dmg so if u have spirit lifesteal yes
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>>555672161
Me when it's 10 minutes in and I'm already at 20k with maxed out Assassinate.
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>>555680732
You grab them by the pussies and tell them to turn you into a god while you go gun build.
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Why exactly did they give Dynamos artificial body a fat tummy and moobs?
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I feel like you can’t use any of graves' abilities on just general wave clear. Only on heroes and objectives. Normally you'd throw out a charge ability to speed it up but you can't guarantee that you will have that charge back soon.
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>>555679461
I do agree that average retard would concede absolutely winnable situations but man, sometimes it really is hopeless.
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>>555680989
who cares about semantics, me standing around doing nothing while something i did 30s ago has some effects on some area is boring as shit even though its "technically" something i pressed
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>>555681321
his old model was a sumo wrestler, they just rolled with it and replaced fat with a neutron star
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>never get graves
>have to always watch a dumb retard place their grave right infront of the enemy and instantly watch it get broken
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FORMER GRAVES VOTER

DO I VOTE

SILVER

VENATOR

APOLLO

?
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>>555681223
youre so skilled bro, standing next to someone is such a hard thing to do
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>>555681560
VOTE VENATOR
DO NOT LET TWITTARDS COOPT SILVER AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE
LET CHRIST PROTECT THE WOLFGIRL
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Since the King in Yellow is obviously a Xi Jinping reference who is the other god?
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>>555681560
Silver is the only interesting hero. Venator is a brainless m1s and Apollo will be reserved for no life one tricks.
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>>555681453
Nobody fucking asked dude.
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>>555681560
You have attention whored this exact post like 20000000000000 times now, man. Shut the fuck up no one cares if you voted for graves 200 times.
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>>555677561
it's mainly the ult preventing you from pushing walkers and hooks getting pick offs, bomb is a meme
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>>555681756
>graves won because one single poster voted 200 times for her
rigged
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>>555677526
>Who should I prio?
Yourself. Take a break (maybe one day or more) and go play something else. If getting tilted involves more than raising your voice a little bit, you need to fix it.
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>>555681560
vote apollo cause youre personality matches
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>Graves is just loli pugna
Based icefrog visiting /d2g/ all those years
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>friends complain about graves
>ask his biggest issue
>the skulls and her ult
>ask him if he switches to the skulls as soon as she pops them up
>no
>why not? light melee as soon as they dive you and take them out
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really hope valve adds taunts later to the game, and hero related voice line you can spam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XpjnkjqT10
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>>555681892
she's undying's kid with pugna's hand
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i used a prio token on graves just to have a hacking warden with 60k souls at min 25 raping everyone
epic
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>>555681662
I'm going 50/50 on Silver and Venator since the start. Don't want anyone else. But I don't play much (I have a job and I shit on company time rn) so I only have 20 votes on each.
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dear tourists: rat king alone mogs all your league and dota characters btw
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>>555682209
Rat king is fake.
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How do you get off a zipline so that you retain most of the momentum?
I see streamers jump off ziplines and get a big speed boost but it seems like I don't
Also I see people jump towards a zipline and stop before reaching it to jump to the other side of the lane quickly, how do you do that?
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Point blank becuase your range means its always active? Int mag so you can ramp while you ramp?

Nope you just stack headshot items because of this dumb auto aim. Absolutely cringe, so much for variety
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I haven't played with Graves in the game yet.
How easy/hard to deal with are her skulls?
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You guys vote like redditors, that's all I have to say.
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>>555682782
Just shoot/melee them
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>>555681756
who are you voting for
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DOES BALLISTIC ENCHANTMENT GIVE YOU JAR SKULLS PROGRESS?
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>>555682824
if you are not voting Venator or Celeste I'll disregard your opinion
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>>555682782
Apparently dieing to them is a massive skill.issue but they havent seen my patented parry bait

Just throw your charges on the ground so they follow you, m1 the enemy so they target them, then jump dash +parry into their inevitable q to kill the skulls
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so is the teacher evil? graves is basically has the skull of gul'dan right
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How do you win if 3 of your team mates are throwing?
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>>555683287
Accept that there aren't 11 retards in a match, but 12
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>>555683220
>sex
>many
kek
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why is graves so boring personality wise
fuck me this new batch are soulless as fuck
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imagine getting this on an eternus 2 lobby
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>>555672837
Not that guy but personally I want:
>An item that changes up the gun physics more (either giving you big exploding bullets or gives you an alt-fire that does something like a grenade or spray rapid fire with zero accuracy or something like that)
>Something that lets you ignore knock ups (I wish Jugg did this instead of the fire rate slowdown thing) or any items that help reduce debuffs more then what we already have since I think tanks in this game need more protection from getting chain CC'd
>Items that change up the dynamics of your skills more and in more interesting ways then what we have
Basically I'm sure the dev team is better then me at this but I just really want the game to explode with ten million viable and cool builds you can play on any character so more transformative items would be cool
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>standard is now "which team has the most new players" roulette
BRAVO YOSHI
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>>555683721
>standard is now "which team has the most experienced players" roulette
See? Words can hurt
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>>555683650
everybody has bad games.
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>>555683870
*deals HP damage to you with my post*
NOOB
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>>555682752
instead of jumping out of the line, vrouch out of it
do this with yamato then press 1 it's funny
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>>555672720
please no they need to remove items, the game has way too many. Dota is like the sweet spot for how many items you can have imo.
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>>555683890
I see this a lot on eternus eu games. Like some dude just doesn't belong.
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>>555672720
remove all gun items*
ftfy
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>>555672161
tummy full of GRAVES
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>rem nowhere to be seen anymore
What a flop, just goes to show that furries are no more than a very loud minority with way too much free time to grind out votes
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Anyone else dispointed by how graves sounds?
its not a bad va and it very accurate to a teen girl but it feels like an average of how all the girls talked in my highschool. guess i was hoping for something more monotone/moody. just thought it would be more fun
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>>555684401
No she is really boring, I think they were going for something slightly less stereotypical with her but the dark and brooding necromancer goth girl is what people wanted.
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>>555684401
She sounds too similar to other females in the game
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>>555684387
He is too hard for the audiences his character was made to appeal to, which is good because Rem is the by far the worst in the game character wise.
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>>555683980
Thank you
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>Hurrr Durr Lane phase doesn't matter
Why would you have stupid idea like that?
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>>555684401
she sounds like the girl who bullied me but a bit less mean
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>>555684401
I can't tell her apart from McGinnis, she feels a bit generic but still miles better than whatever the fuck Rem is.
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>>555684387
>>555684656
He's in every game topping the leaderboards with healing and assits and does crazy damage and utility with a team-wide ultimate and insane item buffs for every fucking aura item when sleep mod which he can hop around with multiple times per cast

legit what are you smoking
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>>555684757
smoking sexy style
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FLIP FLOPPIN' TRANNY DEADCOCK
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>>555684757
wow you sure farmed that seeker II vinny bro
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>>555684925
but im ascendant v
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>>555684673
because it really doesn't
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>>555684965
whats the difference
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>>555684978
>because it really doesn't
Then you wouldn't mind me going 0-9 in the lane then?
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>>555684965
haven't you heard? no rank is safe from shitters less than 100 hours
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>See Lina in lane
>Immediately leave so my team mate 1v2's lane
I'm not dealing with her anymore.
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how the hell do I play Abrams I feel like I'm too passive
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>>555684992
around 40 or 50 divisions i think
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Graves sounds like she's 27, why is she dressing up as a high school goth? It's embarrassing.
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>Lina
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>>555685070
build gun & greens
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At what point should you:
>kill small creeps
>kill medium creeps
>kill big creeps
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SICK AND TIRED OF NEWFAGGOTS
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>>555684387
rem is still in every game and its hard for me to get him
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>>555685187
as soon as you are able to in a reasonable time
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>>555685070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS-5zlxycDk
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>>555685187
You should be farming small creeps in between waves asap. Medium is after you get a 4800 spike so you can clear reasonably fast. Wouldn't bother with large camps unless you've got damage passives or you can reasonably clear it all in under 30s.
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PETRIFY!
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>>555682782
You're only gonna die to them if you're low on health, new, or way too busy dealing with a load of other shit to melee them. Despite how anti gun her kit is, ricochet demolishes them too.
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>>555685326
>>555685457
Thanks
Another question, when should I do boxes and buddhas? When the lane is pushed in/cleared?
Do should you only do sinners if you're on your way back to base, have a way to heal and/or don't expect to be jumped in the next minute or so?

I keep getting massively soul gapped by an enemy that knows more about having optimized soul farming than I do
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I like the small creep game now that they nerfed their health and reduced spawn time!
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Just went 2-18 as graves in a 6v5 that took 50 minutes. You know I hit em with that GG EZ
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>>555684713
im sorry bud. any catharsis from killing her in game? maybe sometime after she get nerfed though
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>what should her ult be
>oh i know, it spawns explosive zombies that have retarded amounts of health that half the health of anyone they hit
>and the only way to stop them from spawning is to heavy melee the spawner in the enemy tower
>and they keep spawning every second so whoever tries to destroy the spawner will get killed guaranteed
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>>555685963
>>
GravesGODS it's time to keep the child train going by voting for Apollo
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i drink soda i eat pizza
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what's wrong with ivy's voice? I find it endearing and hot! when she says 'let's go for a ride!' i want her to ride me
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>>555684387
I'm pretty sure putting him on prio was bugging out yesterday. I had three games with multiple people putting him on high prio where he wasn't in the game at all.
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For anyone who was playing during the last 6 hero update, how many weeks until the new characters are actually reasonably playable?
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>>555685787
look at graphs in post-game stats screen, souls breakdown, if they were out-farming you at a specific time, check if they got the souls from player kills, or from troopers, neutrals, boxes etc.
then if their soul gap was from actual farming and not just constantly swallowing up the 0/11 noob on your team, you can go watch the replay to see exactly what he was doing to farm so well
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>>555686692
Depends on the hero but it roughly took a few weeks after they were all out
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they should make some kind beekeeper skin for Graves. Not only does it make sense mechanically but it would also work a sort of reference to Wednesday
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>>555686692
i think it took over a month since they all released to lose the "new" tag, which is what makes them hard to get in the first place
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Im rewatching old deadlock footage and I forgot how dogshit those old ziplines were

Completely unnecessary fluff when just a colored stylized line was enough
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>>555685991
I like playing her
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>>555687306
Holy shit yeah lmao.
Really clogged up sightlines.
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So... who's releasing next?
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Graves sounds way too similar to vyper
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>>555687306
what really bothered me are those random trees in some parts of the lane like near the mid walkers
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>>555685963
funniest shit lmao
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>>555687306
deleting stuff instead of spending more time improving it is the essence of being soulless. They could've easily turned it into some kind of magical steampunk mail service or something, lorewise. Some parts of the map could have also had some kind of glass dome tunnel roof thing holding a sort of 'power station' for the ziplines, which could have worked as a platform or aerial cover
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Gonna spend the weekend pumping up Venator
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>>555687881
those ideas suck
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>Die 13 or more times as Shiv
>I couldn't lane because of Mina and Viscous poking and always denying souls
>Lane also ganked a lot
>Couldn't fight because I get CC'd to death
>Can't even farm the jungle because I kero getting jumped so I'm forced to pick up souls from the minions attacking the base
>Somehow managed to fucking with because Dynamo bought a Refresher
I got 1 question, how the absolute fuck do I even play Shiv?
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>Seven and Haze trying to fight over the custody of Rem and Graves

Who was in the wrong here?
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>>555686008
Its ok her ult is op because the rest of her kit sucks
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Yuri Lowenthal seems like an expensive ass pick for a character who speaks through a filter in short sentences
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>>555688147
Bro its valve
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>>555688147
Who does he voice?
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>>555687995
well, why do you need the sky to be completely open with literally nothing to do?
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>>555688245
Yo, buddy. Still alive?
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>>555688147
Gaben would give a superyacht to icefrog if he asked for it, getting some expensive VAs is nothing.
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>>555688319
I need it to be visible and your shitty ideas go against that
they suck both as world building and just design alone
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GRAVES' PISSY CUNNY
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>>555688147
Like what other anon said this is valve, money isn't a problem. Yoshi is probably second to gabe in terms of company influence and sway.
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any nuances to Graves' ult you guys have discovered? are there places I should not place it regarding broken pathfinding?
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Alright, now that Grave is out, I'm just waiting for the next character to be out.
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>>555688854
it glows red through walls so don't bother to place it in closets/behind veils unless you're trying to bait a melee for a parry
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>notice retard faggot Lash is missing in teamfight
>realize he's looking for an ult angle
>he tries to ult but I hit sleep dagger and my team rapes him as he falls
Is there a better feeling in all of Deadlock?
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>>555689060
>haze
you didn't win the match
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Some graves ryona please
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>like some deadlock fanart and cosplays
>entire feed is now accounts named shit like YURI HAZE that I have to block because there's no "not interested" button
why does this game attract so many trannies?
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Why does Graves have NO interactions with Victor?
You'd think they'd have the most voicelines between each other, but instead we get literally nothing. Not even a single one. No mutual acknowledgement of either of their situations or anything that could develop their lore further.
I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed. I still love Graves tho.
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>>555689168
I wanted to play Graves so I queued highest pickrate heroes, gomenasai
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>>555688053
Don't lose the lane so hard.
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>>555688854
It shows up through walls and on the map so don't bother trying to hide it unless it actually needs them to go out of their way to get it. So no veils. You can place it on top of buildings, guardians, and McGinnis wall, though the last two are getting patches out if they hasn't already. Sometimes the zombie pathfinding breaks if you put it on a building, but if it doesn't and if they fix that, that's probably your best bet for placement in mid, throwing it on top of the rope building next to the guardian, or on that little awning above the shop.
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>>555689296
>Why does Graves have NO interactions with Victor?
She has voice files for them. Victor's side of the conversations are not complete, so they're not posted on the youtube videos.
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>>555689296
there's a bunch of heroes that would be very interesting to see talk to each other but they don't
my assumption is that they couldn't come up with something they considered to be good enough for the expectation one'd have of their interactions so they pushed it for later
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>>555689060
Interrupting or screwing up any big ult (lash, dynamo, mina, etc) feel amazing
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>>555689296
New characters don't even have any callouts yet, it's the usual "enemy spotted" crap.
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>>555689296
they will add them later
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>>555684401
it's terrible just like her 37yo face
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where is metro from? He sorta has a german accent but flawless pronunciation at the same time, it's weird
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>>555684808
>whatever the fuck Rem is
it's a va from WH40K TTS youtube series, also played a kid there.
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It’s painful to have who is definitely my new main in the game but to not be able to get consistent matches to actually learn her.
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>>555689769
He's a germ
Its not that uncommon if you grew up watching english stuff as a kid.
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>>555689769
Most Euros learn English from a young age
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>>555689572
I don't use any social media (unless you count 4chan) but I vote for Silver, but not a lot because I'm a wagie.
To win the votes your character needs to have the most amount of neets voting for him/her.
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>>555682062
this is why I voted graves
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>>555684401
I get that it's realistic, but realism is boring
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Does rapid recharge actually reduce the deaths needed to get a charge on graves?
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>>555689850
Its going to be like that for weeks, sorry dude. I won't be touching any of the new heroes until I can properly sink my teeth into them.
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I won't let Vanatorchuds beat Silver
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>>555689952
textbook english is unusable garbage thoughbeit
no one actually bothers to correct your pronunciation either
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>>555690018
no, it reduces the time between using each charge
cdr reduces the death required
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>>555689572
All me...
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>Graves doesn't talk about gummy vitamins
It's fucking over.
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>>555690054
we dont learn english from textbooks but by listening to retards on youtube we pick up their accents and pronunciation
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>>555689850
I get her pretty consistently in brool mode
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>>555690256
extra charges don't really do much for her
you want echo shard earlier so you can spam her 1 with it
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>>555690256
replace monster rounds with resto shot (you cannot miss), take off mystic/radiant regen and it's good
mystic slow is questionable also since you have basekit slows
also it might be worth considering ricochet late game, toxic bullets too
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KINO
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Do you buy mystic shot on graves or not?
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How did they get away with porting billie eilish to deadlock, that'd be like making Lash the Rock or something
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>>555689850
I played for five hours yesterday and an hour today and still haven't gotten her once
150 votes into her btw
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>>555690449
mystic shot tesla so your gun actually does damage
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>DUDE DONT HIDE IT

hide it, make them work for it. Any idiot saying to leave it out in the open is a moron who wants you to waste it. Placing it is key and people want to down play it to not have to make the running effort.
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>>555681270
I’m too much of a bitch ass to max assassinate first, and it seems useless any other time than first max
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>>555690449
Seems a bit mixed, I see people wasting it on minions.
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>>555689850
I don't know why valve even bother to do that weird ass character select thing.
I can wait 20 minutes for a game if it means I get to actually play the character I want.
Otherwise, I would waste everybody's time in the match by throwing.
It's 12x30 = 360 minutes.
Good Job valve.
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>>555688670
Jesus, ok anon. Didn't mean to threaten your entire existence. I don't know what they did to you but calm down.
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>>555690641
What did he mean by this?
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>>555690693
they're throwing that system out for draft anon, be happy
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>>555690641
it's literally on the minimap theres no work involved
i think using this thing as a macro ult is a mistake, it's a teamfight ult
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>>555690693
pretty obvious they dont want niggas onetricking in their game
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>>555690641
As a long time undying enjoyer, I agree.
Nothing beats a tombstone the enemy can't reach.
I can see an argument for flinging out in the open to bait parries. But you better hit those parries.
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What's a good build for Mina? Is she easy?
I haven't played since ranked was released but I was Phantom 5 back then.
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Wow Drifter feels really fun to play now. I remember his old animations being so stiff.

Now it actually looks slick doing shit as him.
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>>555690641
You can’t HIDE it, you can make it a pain to get like under your tower or up a building, behind a wall etc.
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>>555672336
I predict a Loona skin mod will be released soon after she comes out.
Hopefully her main weapon is a shotgun.
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>>555690796
Good, fuck onetricks
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>>555690903
Placing it on a roof is hiding it.
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>>555690961
They can see it. It’s not hidden, it’s harder to get to.
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>>555690790
>draft
If someone else picked the character I wanted, then I'm throwing.

>>555690796
>onetricking
Well, I just want to play that new character, so let me play the damn new character.
Otherwise, create a new mode where there's no limit & everybody can pick whatever they wanted. Even 12 rem/grave is possible.
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Should her zombies be more noticable?
Like make low bubbling sounds at a distance indicating they're going to boom in your face?
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>>555690796
The hat from the Christmas events is gonna be worth $1k in 10 years, onetricks can kill themselves
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>>555690663
>and it seems useless any other time than first max
Assassinate is one of the most oppressive things in lane, if the enemy is half they are forced to play like bitches to avoid getting instagibbed, it even got nerfed recently.
It's true that some games do suck if you go all in, but it also leads to the greatest highs. Buy rapid recharge and go gamble.
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>>555686280
it keeps happening
I am playing so bad fuck the moba mode
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why game caps out at 30 fps after couple games? is it a bug with windowed mode or something?
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RELEASE THE FUCKING PVE MODE HOTPOO
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>>555691103
They’re bright green and look very different to usual mobs
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>>555690820
as someone who enjoys placing pugna wards in trees, its nessacry to "hide" even if people """"know""" where it is

90% sure most people dont know or fought undying/tombstone, now they can complain the same things that dota newbies cry about
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>>555691187
this but the VNs
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>>555691187
Imagine MvM in deadlock.
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>>555691187
erm krill yourself?
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>>555690846
any build as long as you don't buy any melee and gun items besides cheap firerate like kinetic and swift or gum spirit utility like overflow and toxic
her gun damage is the worst in the game because it's halved between gun and spirit
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>>555687306
for me it's the sloshes of lane paint lazily slapped everywhere, thank god they removed that
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>>555679839
I think there were some bugs with hitting her skulls initially, first game I played there were hundreds of them and then by the third game she was almost useless since you could kill them all easily
folds completely to ricochet
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>>555691187
can someone qrd on how they hired that hack?
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are you unable to rotate grave's wall if you have double tap set up as alt cast?
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>>555691187
>pve mode

i am sure blizzard has some public info on why overwatch (not 2) pve was not going to ever ever work long term and i dont see why it will come here. go play destiny 2
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>>555691425
Yeah
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>>555691187
Fuck off minigame mode beggar
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>>555689572
This meme format is so forced
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>>555691187
you're already playing pve numb nuts just kill the enemy npc characters
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Would actually kill for a PvE wave defence mod ngl. MvM, horde, whatever. Would slap.
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I'm gonna give her a few days but I think I've found my second main after Victor
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>>555691463
Overwatch developers are retarded though.
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>>555691187
bot lobbies already exist for people like you
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>>555691291
Who would be their Bella, Pocket?
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When will I be able to queue ONLY Seven, Victor, and Graves?!?
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>>555691425
you can rotate it with the alt cast button, but it won't rotate on double tap, so it's uuugh both modes at the same time???
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>>555691729
literally me
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Brool is starting to become a comfort zone, I don’t wanna go back to the MOBA
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>>555691463
Aghs Labs and Siltbreaker MOGS any PvE game a competitive game has had
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>>555691729
literally pick only those 3 characters and you are guaranteed to get one of them
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>>555691729
Graves doesn't have any electricity in her kit though
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>>555691402
guy from 4chan chills in agdg, makes ror, gets big, makes other game that does okayish, develops ror2, releases, sells off RoR2 to epic/gears, worked on rorr while talking to valve devs, releases rorr and basically says hes moving on, deadlock gets roared into 4chan from the david leak or w.e, gets fully hired a month later to work on deadlock specifically with icefrog and other devs

basically a lot of people like risk of rain at valve
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I can work with the shit range but the no headshot thing really kills the gun, its actually worthless
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>>555672127
Im gonna be honest if she doesnt make it in Monday im actually gonna get mad. I accepted that Rem, Graves and Venator had a chance of beating her but I really want to play her already. Best case we get her monday and venator thurs for a perfect week 2.
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>>555685963
>"GGEZ"
>"YOU DIDNT DO SHIT YOU'RE 2-18"
>"Yeah, thats the easiest kind of game"
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>>555691729
Actually me.
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Everyone complains about Mina, and she is fucked up, but I think Viscous is currently even worse.
The cube can dodge everything even easier than her bats and it lets you put it on anyone on your team.
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>>555692043
the cube is fine
his gun is cancer
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>>555691729
are you me
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>>555691819
I brool whenever I have bad games in main. Feels good to destress.
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>>555691846
Isn't that only in street brawl? Standard requires at least 3 old heroes in addition to however many new ones.
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>>555692043
It’s not just about dodge she chases disgustingly well.
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I think this is how it goes.
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>>555691729
Do you relate to their characters due to your own body odour?
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>>555692308
Miku's immoral and selfish 100%
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>>555692486
handholding and marriage
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>>555692308
>vindicta
>altruistic
>miku
>moral
>pocket
>immoral
what the fuck is this chart
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>>555692486
Choking.
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hear me out
echo shard on hands, refresher, duration extender, greater expansion
thoughts?
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>>555692486
Bathing
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>>555692486
lovey dovey sex with choking every now and then
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>>555692043
No, Mina is still worse.
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>>555692308
mcginnis is the most morally bankrupt character in the game.
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>>555692486
Going to school and getting bullied by a Korean vampire
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>>555690256
Mystic Regen is a trash item, swap for resto shot for lane Regen, idk about radiant Regen but I'm not a fan of the item unless it's Geist.
Extra charge is a bait item because her stacks take a long time to build in the 1st place, just remove it, same with rapid recharge.
You don't need monster rounds change it for active reload, mystic shot might be good plus recharging rush will get your gun spike.
Overall I'm not entirely sure how to build graves, I think rushing purples might not be that good.
You definitely need gun items, either Tesla or toxic should give her gun a massive power spike.
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>>555692536
>Vindicta
Essentially serial killer that hunts only bad people.
>McGinnis
She just wants to work, bro.
>Pocket
Just another self-absorped bougie prick larping as a rebel.
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>>555691085
There's a mode for that, just find 11 people and make a custom lobby.
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>>555692848
THE ONLY GOOD FAIRFAX
IS A DEAD FAIRFAX
sad we don't have a conversation with Billy and Graves... VALVEEEEE
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>>555692486
This portrait actually makes me sad, she really looks like a scared teenager out of her depth.
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>>555692634
I was going to post "BASED", but then I realized that you had written "dovey" and not "donkey".
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>>555692308
miku has no morals and is proud of it, vindicta is not altruistic, infernus should be on the moral side and more high on altruistic, mohammad and killiam are selfish
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>>555692993
now imagine how scared the undead she summoned are.
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>grave's gun can't shoot the hideout ball
unplayable dogshit
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>>555692969
I heard billy hangs around highschools
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despite being set in ye olde times half the cast talk like sassy millennials
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>>555692443
No. I'm extremely clean. I shower twice a day most days.
I'm just an edgy retard, and thus they appeal to my sensibilities.
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ivy is so hot
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>>555693087
summon skulls on the ball and feast
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>>555693072
Shut the fuck up Billy they’re zombies
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>>555692848
>hunts only bad people.
she wants all of the hathorne's gone, man, woman, children
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>>555692486
Getting bullied by chad and stacy for a ripping good laugh
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is there a use case for picking helpers as your first ability as rem, or are pillow or maybe tagalong the only real options?
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>>555693045
what the hell drifterbro
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I'm already bored of these 6 new characters

when's the next 6?
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>>555693205
Deserved
THD
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>>555693257
none, you'll get all your abilities unlocked by the time first sinners spawn and unupgraded buff isn't worth it
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>>555693257
helpers full heal troops, it can make it harder for the enemy to wipe wave
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>>555693324
They should add 6 characters every quarter BUT remove 6 least popular characters from previous quarter.
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>>555693257
buffing troopers with helpers is really strong you are basically guaranteed wave prio
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>>555693324
Celeste will save the game
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>>555693324
the next 6 better all be mo and krill and viscous niggas otherwise this game is dead
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omfg I abandoned a game cuz I had to play against duo faggots and I looked in my match history today and it was a win
why do I even que up I should just play with bots for the rest of my life
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>>555693531
>all be mo and krill and viscous
no, please no
we already have enough talking animals
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>>555692916
>just find 11 people and make a custom lobby
I will just keep throwing, yoshi.
I have nothing to lose, while you have 11 upset players ready to quit the game for good.
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How do I play Shiv
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>>555693671
I don't want to wait until monday release the new hero already yoshi
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>>555693072
They look mindless and cartoony, so I don't care.
I don't mind the ethical implications of teenagers in warzones, it's just that her portrait makes her feel really pitiful, I also feel sorry for Viscous when he goes "Aw, c'mon..." in his death scream because the delivery is good.
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>>555693740
you give him your number
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>Graves instead of Silver
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>get viktor
>tape W key down
yeah I'm thinking I'm deadlocking
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>>555693740
literally any build works on him
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>>555693630
Your team got a soul boost from you abandoning, and they then out farmed the enemies and dominated the game.
Honestly, it would be a lost if you stayed.
Fucking valve have no idea how to balance.
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>graves has extremely high winrate at low ranks but starts to nosedives at oracle and by ascendant/eternus she has negative WR
kek
was a bit obvious that this was going to happen tho
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Please vote for Silver ya'll... if the ch*rch chud gets in first I'm afraid the most vulnerable members of our furry community might not be able to handle it... be on the right side of history.
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>Viscous and Graves combo
Getting repeatedly pushed into her walls was bringing me to tears
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>>555693453
Do medic creeps have higher hp or should you helper the other ones since everyone is more likely to focus down the medics?
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how many heroes are in your roster?
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Hmm
Maybe the Baxter Society hunts necromancers?
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>>555692486
Is she actually fun? Haven’t played her yet
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>>555693809
in the 4 games i played(emissary shitlo) since she came out, she did shit in all of them. she is so easy to kill
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>>555693791
Even melee shiv?
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>>555693809
Some anon predicted she was gonna be a pub stomper
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>>555693973
kinda
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>>555693809
even when her gun is weak and has tiny range it's going to sweep in lobbies where the average player doesn't know how to dash jump and won't notice the skulls killing them
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>>555693943
who do you think lined that box with lead, buddy?
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>el Rey Rata
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does graves solve the *TINK* hitting orbs but you didn't actually hit it and then the enemy denies it?
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>>555693862
The consensus seems to be to buff the medic creep but I think in some situations its better to buff the front creep
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>>555693973
Melee shiv used to be my go to.
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>>555694101
that's from shooting too early
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>>555694024
also having 100% accuracy with 100 dps is better than 20% accuracy with 300 dps
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>>555694241
i see the damn thing light up and hit it and half the time never get it
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>>555679108
>>555676820
warden's a vigilante alchemist that was groomed from his very birth to stop shit like the Patrons from ever coming to contact with humanity
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>>555691729
>sepufil
wat
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how do you come back from this again?
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>rapid recharge lightning scroll vindicta
this shit is better than most of the t5s lmao
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Every character in this game plays exactly the same.
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>>555694382
go back in time and don't feed
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>>555694492
farming is boring though so i wont do it
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>>555693126
>half the cast talk like sassy millennials
blame the soilennial seattleite writers
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>>555694382
sit at spawn and hope no one on your team notices and reports you
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>>555694327
I think that toning down the autoaim so your cursor needs to be directly on the hitbox might be enough to nerf her in shitlow without effecting phantom+
it's too generous
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who do I watch?
also it looks like Russians are voting for Venator next. RIP furries.
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>>555694348
Think he will be buds with venator?
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>>555694643
BASED RUSKIES

CATH LARPERS
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>>555694382
this game needs real ranked filter
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>>555693849
Stop forcing your culture war rot on humans, subhuman amerimutt cattle-creature / russoid goblin.
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>>555672127
All the Gravesheads are Venatorbros now, we hate Silver over here!
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Graves has no good ballistic enchantment choice yeah?
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>>555694831
cause she's flat?
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>>555694431
I'm here fingers crossed that they wont nerf her, this shit is way too fun
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Anyone else find it offputting how lanky and flat Graves is
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I am already tired of Graves. She's so fucking boring to play with or against.
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>>555694831
no
jar should increase the search radius but they stick to whatever target you're shooting
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>>555694074
There's something extremely obnoxious about how hard that faggot pushes Rat King when the two heroes we've gotten from the forums only had ~3 likes each
Just the concept and move on, nigga
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Crashing this team
WITH NO SURVIVORS
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Here’s how it goes
First Graves is a monster
Then people learn how to play against so now she’s a pup stomper that sucks in high elo
Now it’s up to Graves mains to figure out how to play against competent players
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Is her 1 passive good enough sustain or does she need something else mid-late game to heal between fights?
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>>555694996
I hate mainly the shitty cartoon RIP headstone asset and her voice being just Vyper without the accent or good writing.
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>>555694643
deadlock is so dogshit to watch during teamfights. It's even worse than overslop, a bunch of characters bouncing around like zoomers on coke.
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>>555692043
>>555692093
the gun isnt the only problem really his kit just happens to complement m1gger gameplay very well
ball puddle punch and cube are extremely versatile but for m1 build you can use punch to set people up to rape with your gun, there's the obvious ball escape, and being able to cleanse ult debuffs or completely cuck burst with cube
i've been playing gun because he's my main and spirit is complete shit atm and he is just not ok
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>>555695115
>when the two heroes we've gotten from the forums
What are they?
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>>555693807
>Honestly, it would be a lost if you stayed.
Only because that clown was clearly on full tilt and would have put the game on his back to lose it.
It's pretty easy to rat wins if you have a player advantage, and that doesn't take skill other than looking at the minimap.
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>>555695318
Doorman = Frend Lyman (or however it's spelled)
Apollo = Fencer
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>>555693132
Ivy... Ivy is old news...
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>>555695229
I know the gun build is op and much better, but I just can't stop puddle punch/melee maxxing on Visc.
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>>555695349
>It's pretty easy to rat wins if you have a player advantage
Depends on when the person leave, you may get snowball so hard you can't even rat.
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>>555695536
still the sexiest fem anthro because vyper didn't get her remodel and silver is a roided freak
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>>555694668
I bet Venator considers Warden a larper and Warden considers Venator a puppet.
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>>555692308
Infernus's wish is helping his friend so that his bar doesn't have to be closed down. Shiv is much more selfish than that. Abrams isn't altruistic. Vindicta is borderline evil. She doesn't care who or what she kills as long as she feels justified in the slightest. Pocket actively hates his father who is a war-monger. Don't know much about Graves but her lore literally says that she helps every ghost she can so that they can move on. Lash should be at the bottom of immoral. Seven doesn't find any joy in mindless killing unless he finds it necessary. Drifter is the opposite and a literally nothing more than an evil edgelord villain.
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so far hero designs are good, playstyle wise theyre boring as shit
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Revised after feedback and running into a "I have no slots and I must scream" problem. Would kill for suppressor to have a t4 upgrade.
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>>555695776
no tesla? seems great on her
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Is she fun?
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Just double checking but toxic bullets dot applies mystic slow, suppressor and such right?
>>555695851
Again, slot problem. Would love to but I prefer other stuff.
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>>555695973
fun as hell
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>>555695973
is reloading your gun for half of your gameplay fun to you?
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canonically in what time period Deadlock happens?
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>>555695223
Some games just aren't made for esports streamslop no matter how good they are. LoL no matter how dogshit is to play is pretty good to watch.
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>>555695973
yes if you play the spirit torment pulse chad build
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>>555696052
it's supposed to be an amalgamation of everything from the 20's up to the 50's, except when they suddenly decide to add punks from the 80's, fencers wearing Jordans and no one speaks in a period-accurate dialect . Truth is, the devs don't care, and didn't even try so it's just more like an alternate history setting, like fallout. And even then Fallout had both a thematic and artistic purpose for it
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is graves a support? or can she do good damage too?
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I was thinking Graves was gonna sound like Mandy from Billy and Mandy. Would have been better than her current voice.
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>>555672019
sinclairbros, we are eating good
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>>555696340
All her abilities are damage-focused, anon
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>>555696340
>support
Not in the sense of ally buffs. Debuffs and disruption yes.
She can deal good damage but she needs to play around an objective or teammate(s). She's very disruptive, and a lot of her damage can be mitigated or avoided if the enemy can focus on you and your skills instead of a teammate or tower.
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>>555696189
I bet valve gonna force esports anyway. Game is too tryhard to leave it casual as TF2.
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>>555696340
she literally carries harder than release-patch Victor by herself so there's no reason to heal your teammates or bother with shields. Also you can't really micromanage your units without also fighting yourself
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>>555696353
Yeah it’s a tad disappointing, it’s like they tried to dip their toes into both “regular teen” and “Mandy” and ended up with nothing
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People not realising Graves is another Billy case where she's at least 50% poser.
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>>555692969
Billy is Graves' friend tho
>Graves: Billy, I can't believe you are with them!
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>>555696658
She should’ve shown with a bit of vulnerability though, Billy regularly gets put down for his arrogance
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>>555696340
she has 0 support capabilities
her role is kind of like mcginnis (pushing) minus the support (aoe heal, wall saves)
instead of that she has CC and anti-carry debuffs
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>>555695776
Also I know stam mastery should be k dash or arcane surge but I forget to use them consistently.
>>555696735
She gets shit on or warned about her mentor she's just in denial.
>>
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>>555693740
You press 4.
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>>555696726
I'm curious why Billy knows a random highschooler (their design echoes each other tho)
My head-canon is that Billy has a younger sibling (explains the billy doll) that might attend the same school Apollo/Graves go to.
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>>555696726
either pedo billy confirmed or vyper pedo confirmed if billy is a dropout
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>>555692043
>Everyone complains about Mina, and she is fucked up
Man I remember reading when Mina was complete shit on launch. Did Yoshi just overbuff her due to coomers complaining or?
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>>555696861
Someone was theory crafting Billy was a dropout.
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I NEED lines of Mina bullying Graves
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>>555696735
It's funny that she got bullied by Mina and is friend with Billy. They really should elaborate more in that in future dialogue
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who requires less aim to do alright, graves or victor?
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It sounds like Graves was a precocious kid who was friends with a lot of seniors. She probably got roped into Billy’s anarchist autism
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>>555697040
Victor needs to aim his 1
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>>555696658
billy is a real goat
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>>555697040
Gwaves easy.
Viktor sucks ass for over half the game, you need to hit with your gun in early fights to not get rolled
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where the fuck are the fuckin Abrams nerfs
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>>555697040
graves, the hardest thing to hit when playing her is a huge circle when using her 1
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Silverniggers need to get in last just to spite her disgusting furtroon fans.

Venator's next.
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>>555697198
Never, he's the face of the game.
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>>555697130
>Viktor sucks ass for over half the game
He feels better in lane compared to most other carries. Not the strongest carry in lane, but far from as bad as Wraith
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>>555696561
>>555696353
i like it, they're going for lydia from beetlejuice
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Street BROOL has made me actually like Drifter

Maybe I'll play him in the normal mode more
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>>555697330
He's one of the least healthy characters for the game
>Le never die brooowl nigger who stacks gun damage
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>>555697198
>fairly countered by shop or heroes
never
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>>555690693
stop being such a baby
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>>555697481
Shopping against Abrams is so worthless Billy even has a line referencing it
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i want to rip my hair out laning with passive niggers
i make so much space with holliday bombs and these retards are hanging out under the tower watching me get poked to death while farming
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>>555697378
I think she just needs better interactions to flesh her out
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>>555697481
In what fucking world?
Most abrams don't even melee that much, just spam his broken gun.
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What an awesome first game with Graves. Can't wait to play another 20 games before I get her again.
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im new to the game and abrams looks really cool. is he just a tank or can he do enough damage to carry games too?
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>>555697725
literally the best character in the game right now
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>>555697442
>>555697602
It's his game, we're just playing in it.
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>put mcginnis heal on the ground (with a shit ton of increased AoE)
>watch my teammates walk out of it at below 50% health
>into a shiv with his ult maxed
sometimes people deserve to lose at this game
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>>555694382
Playing Bebop actually makes you drop IQ points.
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>>555696658
yeah but she's MY poser
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Deadcucksisters... we lost..
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How’s Kelvin, gutted?
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>>555696340
>is the OP carry character a support?
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>>555697682
GET CURSE NIGGA
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>>555696353
Yeah either go full deadpan goth or put a spin on the character and give her a funny accent. Right now she's nothing. I don't even blame the VA it just feels like she was given no direction on the character.
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rem is actually so fucking bad in the mid game. it's like he has obnoxious gimmicks early and obnoxious healing late but nothing in between and it's terrible to play as.
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>>555698135
Imagine if she was a southern goth like tv show rogue.
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>>555698135
She should’ve been a Brit, entirely because it’d be hotter
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>>555697340
>He feels better in lane compared to most other carries
Victor gets so plapped by heroes with poke it's not even funny. Especially before he gets his ult Victor is just a big trooper. Enemy have a slow or stun? Good luck trying to do anything? Enemy have ranged burst? Better cower behind cover the whole time.

This is mainly because his 3 fucks himself hard early and his 2 isn't juiced up enough to sustain him

When I play Victor in lane i find it's better to just chill out and farm
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>>555698038
ye
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>>555697380
>playing drifter (the isolated hero rapist) in a 4v4 team fight mode
I just don't get why you'd want to handicap yourself like that. Surely there's a better option.
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>Victor on my team
>Captain useless
>Victor on the enemy team
>Literal fucking unkillable raidboss farming my teammates
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>low eternus lobby
>it's an abyssmally dog shit experience because it's literally just an eternus 6 raping oracle players on some fotm
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Haven't met a single player that's completely satisfied with Rem. Everyone has a gripe about his voice acting or design.

Hopefully they do something about it, but overall I think he's just a shitty character.
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>>555698186
https://youtube.com/shorts/eAsKiNe4LJM?feature=shared
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>>555697643
>mfw the mina makes no attempt to use her free healing trade tool and stands around doing nothing but hitting creeps
>after laning she proceeds to jungle for 20 minutes
nyoooo that's not how you play mina.......
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>>555696052
1949
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>>555698186
>>555698225
Give her a gooyf accent while she desperately tries to be edgy and brooding
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>>555698378
One thing people need to learn is that your chance of success actually correlates with how much you let the Victor farm
>team let's me farm
>i get fed, keep a lead, and can 1v4
But when Mina, Lash, and Ivy think "you know, I should get cultist" and there's no jungle for me, I don't get fed and can do nothing. And guess what, doesn't matter if a Lash or Mina is 50k up, they get Mo&Krill ulted once and it's over
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>>555697643
They're under tower because you haven't pushed the wave at all brooltard
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How do I git gud at denying?
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>>555698135
>>555696353
>>555698225
>>555698186
>>555698681
>>555697656
>I voted for the generic fortnite school girl character
>wtf why does this generic fortnite school girl character sound generic?!
reap what you sow, apollo deniers
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>>555698745
use aimbot like everyone else
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>>555698543
I'm satisfied with Rem donating 1.5k to me every time I kill him
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>>555698842
No one asked you faggot
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>>555698745
Denying is a lot less valuable nowadays and with the huge buffer that confirmers get before deniers can participate it means you probably shouldn't bother focusing on it too much
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Feel like I’m the only one that doesn’t mind her VA.
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>>555698842
Glass houses, he’s gonna be a generic posh schoolboy if you don’t watch your tone
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>>555698842
okay it's not like if people didn't want for her she wouldn't come to the game 2 weeks later with the same voice so not sure what your point is
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>>555698884
No.
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Graves should've had a Polish accent or sounded like a stereotypical nerd with braces
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>>555699035
It's just boring, valve usually sets the bar high so for them this is a total miss.
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>>555698543
the babytalk is godawful but I have no interest in playing him (boring kit) so i guess it doesn't bother me none
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>>555699076
I'm here to assist, Venator chads.
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THE MATCHMAKER SUCKS!
I HAVE LITERAL 0 HOUR PLAYERS THAT SKIPPED BOT MATCHES IN EMISSARY/ARCHON LOBBIES
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>>555699207
Damn Lady Geist is a hottie
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Surprised we won.
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>>555698225
she shouldve been irish
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>gamemodes
Street brawl but everyone is Sinclair and you random roll your abilities at the start of the game too not just items.
PvE wave defence thing like MvM.
CTF, basically just urn but an entire gamemode.
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>>555699353
One paddy is enough this update
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Rem really shouldn't have 3 stamina.
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>>555699435
why does rem get 3 but graves 2
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All of Rem's souls should be permanently unsecured to punish anyone wanting to play as a little faggot
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>>555698335
Green Drifter is absurdly fun in Street Brawl.
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>>555699435
this, he should have 4
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>>555699415
Sanctum is gonna go hard in this game.
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Mina is a graduate from Blackmore so she's an adult
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>>555699603
>>555699603
>>555699603
>>555699603
>>555699603
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>>555699304
i had a game earlier where I went 21-1 in emissary 5? or so
3 players on the enemy team had sub 5 hours from what I recall looking
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>>555699590
God that’s a fuckin blast from the past.
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>>555699489
Graves is an anemic nerd, she’s probably the type to “rebelliously” walk during PE running tests
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>>555699489
She is sickly
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>>555699304
it's 100% people queued with their friends that just caught onto the social media hype of the voting campaign. they have no idea how bad of a match they're about to create by queueing with their completely new friends.
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>>555684808
>can't tell her apart from mcginnis
mcginnis? and not vyper? its clearly the same voice actor as her. mcg has a completely different sound
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>dead cowboy with dead sister
What did Rem mean by this
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>>555698335
People overestimate the 3 stacks for Drifter's performance. He is ultimately still like any other hero in that he wants to hit item spikes more, and brawl frees him from having to farm to do it. Also ult is relatively stronger in Brawl than it is normally - more of team by % is affected, removing vision can be fatal in teamfights which is all this is.

I'd say he's probably average for Brawl. If he has a true weakness, especially right now with two new heroes affecting the strength of waves pushing objectives, it's if he has to try and hold down an incoming wave. It's best if someone who is really good at it is also on his team so he can focus 100% on fighting.
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>>555699107
>polish graves
explain, im curious why and how's that supposted to work
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Just had a very fun game of street brawl as paige.
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>>555694382
just run the urn bro



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