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Mother Edition
>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>555833534
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Graves panties mod when
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Abrams big ass mod when
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plapmother
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Silver next or we're seizing Gabe's yacht
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
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how are you enjoying the batch so far
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>>555863019
what is the meaning of posting this every thread
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Monday
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>>555862945
need werewife
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>>555863057
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What the fuck are you supposed to do against Vindicta in Brawl when you cant select your items to counter her flight and you team is full of short range heroes? Just wait for it to be over?
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there is going to be a celeste wave on monday
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All I do as graves is max Ult and Essence steal and build burst items and ult cool down reduction.
This is the closest I'll get to undying in this game and I'm okay with that.
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>>555862915
He already has one though??
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>>555863738
He needs a bigger one.
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>>555863450
take alch fire nuke the wave and suicide rush tower
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>>555863738
bigger
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>>555863497
I would love it but it ain't gonna happen
I'll settle for another week of Silver trannies getting btfo
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>>555862741
Tired of my Mina getting banned every game and being unable to ever get to play Graves
gimme a fun hero to try out I guess
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>round 2
>enemy has THREE (3) alchemical fires
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Do you buy alchemical fire on warden? I mean it's alchemical...
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>finally get graves
>haze isnt banned and stomps us
I wish they'd actually just not be lazy and balance the game instead of handing the balancing part off to us cause retards will ban some dumb shit like victor because he was fed one game
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>>555864416
Yes you also get tesla bullets on Seven, arctic blast on Kelvin and phantom strike on Vindicta
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So let's assume the devs actually want the game to release to the public. What would be a realistic timeline?
>Now: Six Hero Update V2
>???: Polish and refinements
>???: Character reworks and model updates
>???: Open Beta
>???: Polish and refinements
>???: Release
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i want to try this game but i don't want to join a trooncord...
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>>555864540
the long awaited SEX update
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>>555864635
are steam forums too tranny for you?
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>>555864424
there's this archetype in mobas called a "carry"
said carry is SUPPOSED TO rape indiscriminately if he's not raped preemptively
haze is only "unbalanced" in shitlow
she's a bad hero that will get massively raped in higher ranks so she goes on maternity leave as soon as possible
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did I say 7 wins in a row?
I meant 10
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>>555864424
>finally get graves
>dont give a fuck about bans because im not a queer
>shit stomp the enemy team full of cancer

The best part was watching the cocky retard 5-1 Mina jump me solo and then get fucking annihilated before doing even half my HP, twice
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No matter who I play I end up lowest or nearly-lowest net worth, player damage, and objective damage every match and I don't understand how
I jungle when the lanes are pushed, I try to run urn when there's a window for it, I'm not amazing at CSing because my aim is shit but I'm doing my best, and yet I always end up broke and weak
I wind up behind early game because I can't CS well and then if I try to push the lane and take a guardian or much less walker solo it's suicidal and half the time I end up dying before I can even kill the thing but people don't come with me when I try to get them to join me in pushing, and I don't know if I should always be trying to join them in the lane to help do objectives or if they're just farming and I'm leeching it
I put my farm into defensive items when the enemy's ahead so I can avoid getting melted but then I end up doing no damage and just get melted slightly slower than the rest of my team instead
I feel like deadweight and I hate being deadweight but I don't know how to stop being deadweight
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>>555864540
finished map, finished roster, battlepass/way to monetize

i can see 2027 if they actually locked the fuck in but most likely 2028
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>>555864540
it's not public until there's hats for people to buy endure FOMO about
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>>555864770
based rem player just supportmaxxing
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>next big hero drop is likely the last

farewell..kino...
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>>555865094
As long as I get Cadence/Opera/Succubus I'm content
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Having such agency over winning and losing makes playing carries a little too addictive. Is Victor the most mechanically fun hero? No. Are there games where I would've lost if I played anything else? All the time.
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Venbros is victory finally secured or do I need to keep playing?
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>>555864779
You're on Rem, you're supposed to be helping your team in teamfights. With other heroes if you see 4 enemies in one side of the map you can push the opposite lane for free
Try picking a hero like mcg, wraith or warden, some youtube guides can probably help you out more than I can
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>>555864807
>2027
>2028
Don't say that...
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>>555865094
>>555865145
It's a fun event for sure. People arguing, campaigning, being tribalist, it's all good fun

Love spamming posters and tearing down other posters.
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>Watch a guide on Holliday and just copy what he does
>Instantly five times better at her than before
It's just that easy folks
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>>555865361
I think Venny has good chances next. Silver trannies seem to mostly be people who put in like 9 votes and then spend the rest of their time on reddit
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>>555864540
Q2 2026: Art pass with models, finished jungle
Q3 2026: Final batch of heroes
Q4 2026: Open beta, steam marketplace integration
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>>555865416
I'm just basing that off of how much they've done since may 2024. If they get more employees on the project maybe they can speed it up.
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>>555865361
More!
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silversisters i thought we didn't play the game??
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>>555864540
i hope you realize you're waiting 6 months for each of these

>>555865587
>three big updates in a year
>when we've just had a 6 hero update
lmfaooo nigga we ain't making it until 2028 with that list of yours
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My faith is unwavering
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>>555866167
>no vote
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>>555865956
If you guys did you would've beat out Graves
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>>555866095
the last hero batch was 5 months ago, valve can definitely squeeze another one with steam summer sale
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>>555864540
what heroes are gonna get reworked? only ones I can think of are sinclair and maybe vyper if hopoo wants to.
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>>555864540
>jungle camp and midbos revamp
>maybe one more objective
>model and map polish across the board
>cosmetic and progression system
>custom game support
>pick/ban draft system and proper matchmaking
>another game mode? not necessary
>12 more heroes

I bet we'll get two more major updates in mid 2026 and late 2026.
Then 2027 is the open beta.
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DO I VOTE VENATOR OR SILVER I HAVE 50 VOTES READY

CONSIDERING APOLLO BC HE IS UNDERDOG
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>>555866523
Venator or Apollo
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>>555866354
yamato and warden for sure, viscous as well
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>>555865369
It's not just Rem, I've had the same issues on Warden and Wraith. I've played a very small amount of McGinnis but only back when you could still build her for turrets, from what I hear that's really really bad now and I have no idea how she plays if I'm not larping as Engi
I try following the guides ingame but I don't know enough to determine which ones are good or bad and even then I get confused on buy orders or when I should be deviating outside of obvious actives like Knockdown against Seven
Rem is actually probably my best hero, I have 1 win across the past 3 days and it was on Rem
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>>555866523
Flip a coin. Both Silver and Venator are good choices that are likely to win. I would bet on Silver because it really feels like her victory was stolen.
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>>555866523
apollo would be wasted votes.
its all silver venator rn
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>>555866523
Start doing this >>555866167
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>>555866701
Go into the spectate room, watch high level lobbies and see how people play a hero you're interested in. Don't care too much about the movement tech but pay attention to what they are doing, particularly during "dead" times with no fights going on.
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>>555866376
>12 more heroes
I still don't see why this would happen
I'm not the most familiar with MOBAs so maybe there are still holes in the roster I'm not seeing but for a game this complex I think pushing the starting roster further than it is isn't a good idea
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>>555866704
>stolen
>when her voters are doing dumb shit like placing her posters all over the hideout instead of grinding out votes
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>>555867112
there's still more room for at least a new M1 carry and a new aerial hero at some point. also, true stealth bastard (slork).
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>>555867112
there is only 38, shit is nothing compared to dota or league that literally have hundreds
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>>555867245
you crawl into the hole and I'll push from behind
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>>555866192
>no vote
You should ruminate on how this voting system works for like, maybe more than 2 seconds
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>>555867245
>66k rem at 38 minutes
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>kills Graves as Drifter
>"heh, I love it when they're young like that."
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>>555864731
kill yourself retard the winrates are available for all to see and filter by rank
>>555864770
you literally have a haze on your team, stupid faggot
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match quality has become so bad with all the returning players and clearly new players
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>>555867274
Dota and League aren't combination MOBAs, Hero Shooters, Movement Shooters, and Visual Novels.
And let me tell you there's a reason why those 2 don't get very many new players
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>>555863057
just another ritualposter
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>>555867463
is this a real line lmao
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>>555867624
ability wise, most of the cast are intermediate at most. nothing terribly complicated yet to match invoker or other famous one-trick characters
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I need art of Drifter grabbing Graves, ripping her clothes, while she's bloody and crying

SFW of course, she's a minor
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i think its fake
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=drifter_ping_careful_succubus_01.mp3
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>>555866219
>graves with 1,000,001 votes
>silver has a mere 1,00,000 votes
obviously
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>>555868101
This but Drifter is genderbent
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>Finally made it to ascendant
Do i have an opinion now or do I have to get to eternus first?
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>>555868129
what is fake
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>>555866523
I think Rem -> Graves -> Apollo -> Silver -> Celeste -> Venator would make a good cycle with variety.

>>555867112
Probably one more batch. Calling it now:
>Anubis, theme:egyptian/occult/furry style:gimmick-caster
>Cultist, theme:lovecraftian/occult/dark-comedy style: basically the cultist enemies from Blood, dynamite, machine gun + some magic
>Clown, theme:circus/creepy/juggalo style:stalker-bruiser
>Demoness-singer, theme:glamour/music/infernal style:support
>Rat King (actually a crazy woman wearing a rat costume), theme:subway-nutter/rats/dirt, style:trapper-mapcontrol
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>>555868230

this is fake>>555867463
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>>555868186
u have to get to eternus and then we'll tell u low eternus doesn't count
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>get to play Rem without token
>lane is going fine at first
>end up getting killed once cause my lane partner is literally staring off into space fucking drooling on himself and not doing anything to help
>look at scoreboard
>enemy Haze is already 5-0 in under 8 minutes
>sell all my support items, buy Gun items and just rat/euthanize cause I already know I got all the literal brown retards on my team
They need to seriously fucking fix the god damn matchmaking. Why is it only ONE team exclusively gets all the 0-10 monkeys every fucking game?
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>>555868253
>clown, rat king, anubis,

is this the reddit drop?
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How about we just triple the damage paradox's carbine does if she builds gun that way shes not useless
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>>555868291
why do you feel the need to find these people, screenshot them and post them here?
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>>555868291
really telling how trannies resonate with a circus carny
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Holy shit since this patch dropped the game got 10x worse with all these new and returning players.

Please fuck off you fucking mouth breathing retards
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>>555868506
Because it's a bot
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>>555868589
sticking around just to ruin your experience
don't be rude next time bucko
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>>555866523
the main strenght behind the idea that we'll get 2 more batches of 6 heroes is that it would end up being a nice and round roster of 50 total heroes
also mobas apparently regularly have a triple digit amount of heroes for some reason
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>>555868382
Someone's gotta feed the premades, buddy.
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>>555862741
Why is everyone so nice in this game? It's actually kinda insane. Even when I'm feeding and I apologize not one single angry person yelled at me..
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how is rem? feels useless when he's on my team
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>>555868687
Until the real ranked mode comes out, people don't give as much of a shit.
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>>555868705
because he is useless
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>>555867245
How did you even fucking get down there to begin with? Did Rem Rescue Beam you into it or something?

>>555868656
Premade niggers need to be forced to fight tooth and nail in the sweatiest games they can possibly play every single game. They are a blight.
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>>555868687
people are just buckbroken by how dogshit the matchmaking is, getting brand new players in your games is so commonplace most people just accept it and move on
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>>555868687
i also like how much people talk on mics in this game
no where near the amount of people talk in dota compared to deadlock
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>>555868687
The russians in this game are absolutely vile. My worst experiences in this game have been from Russian melt downs
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Rare is the game where you get MVP on support, but today it happened
It's so fun to be able to support for good carries like my Bebop and Haze especially were here. I fucking love healing and supporting in this game bros, when it's going well it just FEELS good when you make the HP bar go back up again
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>>555868853
>no where near the amount of people talk in dota compared to deadlock
thank god for that
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>>555866523
vote venator, silveroids are trannies/furfags underserving of a victory
i'd be hilarious to see all the twitter creatures and streamers lose their shit AGAIN
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>>555868705
Hes REALLY mediocre. Expect buffs honestly to almost every part of his kit probably.
You'd expect his minion stealing effects to be useful but most of the time he just steals from his own team 90% of the time.
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>>555868471
Don't worry, the Anubis will wear a suit.
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>>555869010
obsessed
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>>555868972
yea now that i think about it that might be forethe best because of how many south americans are in north american servers

speaking of south Americans
where are they in deadlock? in dota they are like 50 percent of the population in us servers
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>>555868896
slavs are being honest about your retardation, grow some skin
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>entire thread is split between silver and venator
>meanwhile I just vote celeste
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>>555869148
it's way more likely that we get a mummy rep rather than some anubis
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>>555869205
If Bronze gets downgraded to Iron that'd be so funny
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>>555869205
Thankfully for me, I'd be happy with either Silver or Venator
>big wifwolf
very cool
>tactical priest
also very cool
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>>555869182
>throwing a child like tantrum because someone didn't int with you is "being honest"
Okay, HIVan.
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>>555869010
This, I hope She's last just because it would be funny.
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>>555869148
a mummy or gill-man would be better than this fag shit.
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People make fun of Billy but the way he totes his bat and smg he's clearly seen some shit
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>>555869205
based based based
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>>555869170
peruvians are dogshit at shooters
also the lan center pcs probably dont have access
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>>555869148
Anubis is boring and overused.
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>>555869148
A noob is
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I'm kinda in love with how Drifter is played in brawl. Sneaking around, weaving in and out of the fight, looking for a chance to chase down any seperated calves
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>>555869483
This
They should add Marduk or Wotan instead
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IDIOTS WILL LEAVE BECAUSE THEY DONT GET GRAVES WHEN I HAVE FUCKING PRIO TOKEN AND THEN YOU JUST SLAP ME WITH THIS OTHER HERO FUCK OFF
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>>555867112
50 is a good number to end on and there are still plenty of archetypes to explore
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>>555869651
More evidence that gravesfags are the worst of the worst
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>>555869569
>Grey hawk ult one-shotting bepop from 65% hp
Somehow I don't think you carried this
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>>555869148
so calico?
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>>555869651
i dont understand leaving if you dont get a new hero
like do they dont enjoy the game?
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>>555869849
New characters bring in tourists of the worst kind.
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How do you stop this brawl composition?
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>>555869784
Might have something to do with enhanced spirit snatch and crippling headshot raping his spirit resist

And if I didn't carry how come I'm the one on a 5 killsteak. Think upon
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>>555869784
That was Sinclair, and real Bebop also hit him with a bomb at the same time it looks like because he got the kill
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>>555870009
I have paige banned because of it
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>>555869625
there's a lot of occult creatures like a homunculus (could be a mimic spy like hero), sphinx, minotaur, that could make their way one day and pass off as occult enough to not trigger the furry alarm
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PSA: Just double jump over Graves' immobilize line lol
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>My Billy
>Does not know how his 3 works
>Does not build a single item that makes him harder to kill
>0/15/2

>Enemy Billy
>Adolf reincarnated
>22/3/13

Every. Single. Time.
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>>555870189
You can just single jump over Dynamo's stomp with proper timing. This isn't news.
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>>555869849
I'd rather just play a different game if I dont get graves. I have two accounts and have abandoned 6 games already lol. I am thinking of getting more to just rotate abandons when you get a hero you dont like but i think you get low prio eventually if you dont play enough before abandoning
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>>555870370
I feel like I've gotten a hang of billy in brawl, but after 200 matches I'm still to afraid to touch the normal mode.
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>>555870515
>Gravesfags
Look at the fucking state of them
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Street Brawl is a shit mode to begin with but Graves absolutely ruins it. Won't be touching that trash again until she's either removed from the pool or nerfed so hard she's unplayable.
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>>555870497
post a clip of you doing that after they made it twice as high
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>>555870515
damn
whats its like being subhuman nigger trash?
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Brawl is completely comp based and I don't see why it's not a draft mode
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>>555870758
>>555870854
If you don't want to play jeet brawl, just don't play jeet brawl
It's that simple to stop
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Listening to A Perfect Circle while laning as Victor...
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when are they gonna add a cute magirobot girl

and not the type of scrapyard junk looking piece of shit robot that bebop is

speaking of, is bebop's design final? it's basically the same as his neon prime design was right so it might even still be placeholder, or am I wrong? he should look more steampunk or more magitech, like NuMcGinnis' shit
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>>555865228
Is there a trick to him besides just learning your hard counters and builds? He looks fun as fuck to play every time I see him staring down any other hero in the game and just not fucking dying
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>>555870854
So is the main game. That problem isn't exclusive to brool.
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>>555868185
That's just silver.
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>>555871119
Bebop's icon prior to the UI overhaul had his head look a lot more skull-like, he's definitely getting a revamp at some point. He's still a Neon Prime design right now
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>>555866523
Apollo needs you
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>>555870515
just lock in graves, mina, paige
eventually graves won't be a new hero so you won't have to pick a 4th, come back in a couple weeks and you can only spam the cute girls
seven is my fourth pick btw because it's his harem
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>>555871259
No Silver is a werewolf
Drifter is a vampire
There are completely different narrative and psychosexual implications here
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>>555865228
there is something very exhausting about seeing this tard post victor webms in seeker where parrying doesn't exist and nobody buys healbane
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I fuckin love playing Yamato
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>oracle 4
I hate being here I wanted to stay in archon it was comfier and people are mean to me now
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>>555871585
Drifter fills the narrative equivalent to a werewolf in wolf mode constantly, he 'hunts' like a werewolf does and isn't a refined dracula type that seduces women like a 'mina' vampire
Regardless a genderbent drifter would just be silver personality wise
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I wish you could see these on the mini map I never know where the fuck they are
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>>555871620
She has good voicelines and a fun kit, I just hate the model even if it's memeworthy
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>>555871620
Whoever made this model almost made this design look good
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>>555871620
why dis bitch head shaped like an egg
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Who's going to be more mobile celeste or apollo?
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>>555871843
>She has good voicelines
That's the best part. Half the time I don't know what she's saying but she sounds cool. And her Engrish sounds funny too. Wish I knew who her voice actress was.
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>>555871131
Farm and recognise your powerspikes. Play safe without ult, play reckless with ult.

Also make sure to let your aura cook for a bit before using infuser. Shit can heal your health bar 3 times over if you use it right
>>555871608
erm it's phantom. I think if I keep spamming Victor games I'm gonna break into ascendant soon. Getting close
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>>555871951
Apollo
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>someone dies in lane
>instantly "4 HERE WHY AREN'T YOU PUSHING"
>there was only 3 there and the other 3 are ahead of us so we can't brute force while they're defending
It's like the instant cope of the hopeless
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>>555872003
If Paige bought a Scourge you die there. Why are Paige players so bad at itemizing?
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>>555871620
she unlocked this game for me, hoping apollo is another fun nuker
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>the Gun McGinnis build works pretty well, I do pretty good damage and am kinda tanky cause I usually have 3k HP even with Glass Cannon and I can just hose people down from the back of the team with Sharpshooter and pop Split Shot on whoever tries to run circles around me in the backline and melt them down too
>basically just Heavy TF2 mixed with Bastion
>but I can't fucking ever close out any kills most of the time so I got tons of damage but hardly any fucking kills
>I can't play any of the gun characters that run people down cause usually the instant I try to do anything their entire team instantly turns around to kill me and my team still somehow loses the fight despite completely shifting the enemy's attention off of them
Sigh....
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Okay but where's my Bee themed hero?
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whoever here suggested maxing Rem's 3 first is a genius
shit feels amazing to play
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>>555871558
Damn you right, I should have the highest pickrate heroes selected
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>>555872320
What's occult/noir/magic aboout bees?
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>>555871608
>mutiple heal banes and toxic bullets in that clip
you just make shit up to complain about huh
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these ranks make no sense
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>>555872419
“According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyways. Because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.”
― Bee Movie
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>>555872419
German scientists made of bees
Guy with Bioshock 1 Bee powers
Demonic Bee creature who wants to assimilate people into its hive
Character with Bee SMG and Bee Grenades
The possibilities are endless, truly
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>>555872358
Do those little fuckers have like a torment pulse effect when they're on creeps or something? I was trying to clear out a rem-boosted wave and some blue lightning kept zapping me from the creeps
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I thought drifter got nerfed why is he in every match now.
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Why don't Paiges level their 2 to max in Street Brawl unless they have a gun pointed to their head?
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>>555872165
Keeping track of more than 4 buttons is hard for most people who play supports which happen to be waifufags or women most of the time in these games
Personally I just put them on 5-8 keys, even if it means I have to take my fingers of WASD to use the right one it's easy to remember what I'm pressing. I might switch to ZXVB (I use C to crouch) but I'm worried I might hit one while trying to crouch
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>>555872530
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>Pull. Back.
>UNNNNGGGHHH
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>>555872394
I never have trouble finding matches, maybe an extra minute or two and I usually don't get my avoided hero banned in the matches but I'd rather play a hero I like against whoever I ban
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>friendly victor
>2/12
>enemy has no antiheal
>enemy victor
>builds the same
>literally cannot die
>even with healbane and decay
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>>555871608
>healbane
>doing anything against victor
alchemsit detected
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>>555872419
It's social commentary on the decline of bee hives.
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okay I'm sick of flopping as vindicta, I can hit her snipes but something isn't working here. is there some 'safe' items to pick with her that help farm? Maybe I should get an escape or something that helps secure kills? Or should I play her as a support and focus on helping other carries/initiators
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>>555872694
Why not use 5-6 and z-x, then C for crouch would be on the right of the last slot instead of in the middle of four slots.
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>lose 8 of 12
>still rank up because I win mvp everytime I win
Yoshi for the love of fuck please add feedback back or I got banned from leaving it
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>>555872990
i think a good hanging is the only good option
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>>555873013
smart thinking anon! I'll try it like this
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dual snipers in brawl is so obnoxious to deal with
people never focus them and they just shoot people in the sky unhindered
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Haze is not banned nearly as often as I'd expect. I guess when she has a 70% pick rate since time immemorial she has more people picking her than banning her
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>>555872419
beehive is a masonic symbol ackshully
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>>555872782
remove the void valve
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So I've seen videos of people keeping Lash's momentum into his ult, how the fuck does that work? I don't see them do anything special, just Majestic leap and ult
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>>555873391
because victor is stronger in every elo except tippity top and then warden is another problem M1 that just runs over everything
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These are the main character's of this game.
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>>555873501
Do we have a better shot of this
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>>555873391
She's really not as bad as some other heroes if you actually l2p. Gay Talon and McGinnis are way more annoying to play against mechanically.
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is rem ult the only thing that can pierce kelvin dome?
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>>555873557
There's a reason why Geist got a VN before anyone else

She's the setting's backbone
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>guy dies 6 times in lane against graves last game
>he rolls graves this game
yeah im going to be uppercutting him into the enemy all game
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>>555873512
If you do the drop down part of Majestic Leap before channelling, you'll keep your aerial momentum
Same trick also applies to dropping off the zipline
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>>555873557
>mina here and not haze
industry plant
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>>555873756
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>>555873583
IN HERE I AM KI- ACK!
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gargoyle cunny...
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how do we fix graves
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>>555862741
So if I won the ritual, would Arch Mother grant my wish to have sex with her?
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>>555873583
omg its migu
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Highest KP I think I've ever had in a match
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>>555873583
It isn't, but I'm not gonna tell you what else does in case they decide to nerf it next (it doesn't deserve it)
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>>555873557
>>555873706
Doesn't Ivy have the VN with the most recorded lines other than Geist? I remember a bunch of the Lash/Ivy dialogue from it
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>>555862741
>>555874016
They should add a bisexual hero who's wish is just to bone whatever patron they're summoning.
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>>555874016
>he thinks the patrons uphold their end of the deal
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>>555873786
I've seen em keep the momentum from the start of the jump and even do the drop down during ult to to go further
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>>555874202
Nah make him straight but want to fuck the Archmother, and Hidden King will oblige and grant the wish somehow anyway if he's on the team.
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>>555874170
Other than Geist, the other heroes VNs are just some voice lines.
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why hasn't the OSIC killed Geist yet anyway
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>>555874335
>and Hidden King will oblige and grant the wish somehow anyway if he's on the team.
That's a good idea.
>Stop the ArchMother and she is yours. That much I promise you!
>The Archmother would never grant such a debasing wish. The Hidden King, however, would gladly see her deflowered.
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>>555873858
I will be the hand of karma
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>>555873583
>46k souls on rem
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>>555873583
Well at the moment Rem ult goes through half the fucking walls in the game so im assuming its a bug
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>>555873987
nerf deadhead a lot
buff tombstone slightly
that's it
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>>555874768
The description says it's meant to go through walls, silly.
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>>555874517
why didn't the feds get rid of THAT guy and all the people tied to him?
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God I wanna write something filthy toxic and fucked up right now
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THE DEAD HUNGER
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>>555872606
>Bioshock 1 Bee powers
deadlock doesn't do gore I'm afraid
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>enemy team got Holliday instead of me
>it's obviously his first time playing the hero
No mercy...
Not even for a Hollibro...
It had to be done...
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Saving my priority ticket for Venator
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Abrams and Ivy are the faces of 2024 Deadlock.
Mina and Doorman are the faces of 2025 Deadlock.
Who will be the face of 2026 Deadlock?
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>>555875335
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>>555875335
Silver and Rem
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Geist's ultimate is just flat out unfair lol

wtf?
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>>555875335
Silver & Ven
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>>555866523
apollo is probably the only one im going to play after the initial new character hype
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>>555862741
>>555874016
>>555874202
>>555874335
>>555874618
brehs
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Ohhhhhh now I remember why I dont play Victor
Because the teammates I get paired up with never fucking help out ever!
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>>555875568
lolbaby
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>>555872618
I think that's what their basic attack looks like if they are buffed by a helper
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>>555875335
I want it to be Graves and Silver but it will unironically be Rem and Silver.
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>>555875568
silence wave pierces walls
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>>555875568
and shiv's isn't?
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How do you even ban a hero bro.
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>>555875568
>there is a UI element at the top of the screen that tells you everyone's ult cooldown
>there are several items in the shop that can silence her to prevent it from going off

>you know that she can swap health, that's what she does
>you choose to engage her at low HP while her ult is up
>you get into close range
>you don't disable her
>you die
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I think Infernus should tip his fedora to parry incoming punches, he's a distinguished gentleman after all.
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>Jewtubers saying building skulls is bait, build ult
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https://youtu.be/TlUMmlvVTwI?si=f8w_gp3XkzTWbxiD
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>>555875834
but only when parrying the ladies
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>>555875891
she looks like a public restroom
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>>555871818
the 4 bridge buff ones are easy to remember where they are, and are the most useful
then there's the one on the roof of the 2-sinners garage, great for stealing enemy sinners (and map mirror)
there's another one on a roof near garage, i basically never use it (and map mirror)
there's 2 near that fairfax statue, and 2 on the building on the map mirror place of the fairfax statue
that one on the roof on the flower shop that's great for escaping to your base
and then the 2 new ones in the base
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>>555875824
one thing that's bullshit is that she still gets the heal if you iframe it with pocket case or mina bats
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>>555872419
Way back when, in the Medieval age: you had two primary choices of candle.
Tallow candles, which were animal fat and smelly, and bees wax candles, which lasted longer and had no aroma.
Bees wax was the go-to for scholars, kings, and priests.
It was the best light-source for working at night, so most abbeys and monasteries also had bee hives.
Bees also make honey.
>The bee is the wisest and cleverest of all animals and the closest to man in intelligence; its works is truly divine and of the greatest use to mankind.
As a result of their use in scholastic studies, bees are used as a motif in the Middle Ages as a sign of intelligence, and divine insight.
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Will forcing DLSS 4.5 make the performance of this INSANE-O MODE?
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>>555875891
>makes an amazing Celeste art
>next things he draws are her with a dick and bulge
This artist has talent but he's using it for evil.
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>>555873557
>abrams (cover of game)
>geist (only one with a full visual novel)
>dynamo (flashiest ult, represents the eclipse thing 50 years ago lore)
>mina (hot girl, key character in fairfax/pocket/calico story)
checks out
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>Seven ults with unstoppable
what do? just run and hide?
Also, can you shred an enemy with 0% protection and increase damage?
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Are there instances where it's better to not upgrade into Vortex Web
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>>555876248
sometimes a unicorn horn is not just a unicorn horn
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>>555875891
God is HOPE she has a Eurotrash accent. Maybe like a Berliner accent, or Polish, or Flemish. Czech maybe for that pornstar sexdoll aesthetic
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>>555876320
yeah, vortex web sucks as a chasing tool
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>>555876248
Paige was made for my penis.

>>555876320
When you could buy a better item instead of buying Vortex Web. What the fuck does Vortex Web do against a splitpushing Doorfag or a team where it's constantly 2v2 / 3v3 and they never stand near each other?
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>Brawl 5th round
>See Bebop and Lash duking it out on some rooftops
>Have to defend so I leave
>Come back a minute later
>They're still there trying to kill each other
Kino, both talked shit to each other as well
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>>555876248
>>next things he draws are her with a dick and bulge

chad artist
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>>555876512
Nah, this would be way hotter without the bulge
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>>555876567
yea you're right
her futa cock should be out in the open, not restrained by clothing
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Genuinely hope that this isn't any one of you here. What a fucking retard of a player.

Was playing street brawl with my friend, this dude on the enemy team as Graves (wow), was talking mad shit all game and being incredibly cringe with 'voice line' text chats. They weren't even the best player on their team and were only doing ok because Graves is OP. Even still, we made a 3 round comeback after losing 2 in a row. They disconnected as soon as they lost, fucking faggot
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>>555876834
>being incredibly cringe with 'voice line' text chats
Can you give an example?
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>>555876834
that's not me but I have 9 VAC bans on my account and have a 100% headshot rate on haze
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>>555875335
Rem and Venator
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>>555876279
yes you run and hide
or if you're a gigachad
HYPERBEAM ONLINE
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>>555875824
>ult so strong she doesn't even have to use it for its power to be projected into the game if she's low hp
>this is somehow fair because there's a couple situational workarounds
epic man
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>>555876913
>100% headshot rate on haze
holy shit, didnt know we had pros in our thread
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>Bebop is fun now
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It's not much, but it's honest work.
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Lane stats should have a multiplier on ranking, if you go 0-5 or worse in lane that should be an auto demotion unless you get a placement card at the end or something
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it's like combo or black hole
you play around it when it's up
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>>555876834
>Cancel invite
are you trying to add him as a friend to harass me after the game???
move on little bro
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look the L and the O are like the eclipse, a core story aspect on why they are fighting eachother
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>>555877141
deadcock.....
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>>555876834
I played against a Bebop bitching about too many people picking Graves in brawl today.
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>>555876834
ok

faggot
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How do you build Graves?
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>>555877115
Yeah I wanted to call him a retard to his face. If you disconnect as soon as you lose it's obvious you're a little bitch

>>555876891
"I love you" "more love" "so easy" "gonna make you my bitch" and so on. Dude died more times than he got any kills and they had a Haze that was better in every way.
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>>555877030
Your build? Is gunbop (AKA Hyperborea) back?
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>>555877330
It was tankbob
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What could I have done to win this game.
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>>555877282
Sounds fucking based and you and your buttbuddy lost the mental war so hard you had to scurry here to cry about it.
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>>555877443
Whatever you say Fret1, hope you didn't smash your keyboard too hard when you lost
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This was the poll 10 days ago on 1/21.
Let's do another one.


https://strawpoll.com/40Zm40qW4ga
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm40qW4ga
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm40qW4ga
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>>555877568
He probably didn't smash it as hard as you did those first 2 rounds you lost.
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>>555877386
>most damage and 17 kills on tank bop
I don't bereeve you
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>>555877658
I've been voting for Venator but now that I think about it I hate retard hold m1 heroes and that's probably what he is
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>>555877410
take the mandated loss
or be a mic team leader that people will ignore and not like anyway
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what is a good vindicta build, the ult rework completely changed her identity
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>>555877838
It was this one 123910
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>>555877658
STOP VOTING VENATOR YOU CHUDS!!
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this isn't related to deadlock specifically but has any MOBA ever had a mode where everyone just passively generates the same amount of money and there isn't any economy metagame? games would be much faster and fairer, there's heroes built around farming in these games but they could just have actual interesting kits instead
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>>555877386
Honestly it does make the most sense.
>People think you're going to do some stupid shit like running into battle with bombs or going full laser
>They buy CC to make you regret your life
>By soaking up all their fire, your teammates can (hopefully) clean up in your stead
>You'll also get a handful of kills by overconfident people that think you're just a sole Bebop that can't do anything
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>>555878192
HOTS
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>>555877658
hold the line Celeste sisters
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>>555878289
HotS is the only good game Blizzard ever made
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https://mobalytics.gg/deadlock/builds/billy-build

is this a meme build? feel like the author is trolling
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>>555878192
hots was a meme with map objectives, bloodline champions/battlerite were anti-moba pure brooling with no itemization at all
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>>555878743
it's pretty good, probably not optimal but definitely not trolling
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>>555865145
they are making sexo demon lady?
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>>555877658
Venatorchads run this general btw
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>did really well
>want to see how much damage I actually did
>player dmg stat is bugged specifically for me
Th-Thanks......
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>>555878805
well these games all failed so I will assume the economy is necessary to keep actual enthusiasts interested. for a casual like me though I'd love to play more modes like brawl, I find hitting NPCs the least interesting part of the game and wish I didn't have to do it at all
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>>555878945
venatorchuds*
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why does rem do SO much damage in lane? its fucking insane and awful to play against
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>>555878956
>598 dmg
wtf were you doing all match?
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>>555879139
that's a man
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>hour long cd on Rem's 2
It's not THAT good, come on.
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>>555878192
league has swift play (which replaced the old "quick play" which was literally just draft-less ranked) specifically made to be quicker which still has the farming economy but passive gold generation is increased a lot and it's much, much harder to truly fall behind (even if you miss a CS you still get 5 gold for being next to it when you died)

it's like the training wheels version
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I hope we get a buff and debuff clarity update in a few months. I can't stand this shit and I don't see how nobody else is complaining.
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I actually like the new bebop changes.
>debuff remover
>bomb drops to the ground
>boom!
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>>555865145
I hope she's voiced by Caitlyn Myers (aka Nerissa Ravencroft)
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>>555879316
i dont give a fuck, the fact that rem's sleep is an unavoidable long ass CC that DOESNT BREAK ON DAMAGE FOR SOME REASON is more than enough reason to hate him
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>>555879384
i use the new healthbars because they show when someone has a bridge buff active
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>>555879465
God forbid he have one above-average ability.
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>>555876834
>getting heated over street brawl
ngmi
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which one would my chudwife graves vote for?
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how's this abrams build?
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>>555879585
Could use more belly.
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>>555879554
apollo because they're classmates
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>>555879537
>above average
>it hits enemies through walls
yeah man, "above average"
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>>555879554
She's fucking Apollo on the regular so him
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>>555879662
It doesnt kill through walls so whatever.
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>>555879554
Probably silver. Apollo is part of the popular group at her school which she loathes and I doubt a necromancer is gonna have good relations with the church
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>>555879662
every new hero has a new mechanic as part of their ult
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>>555879780
uoooooooooooo
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>>555879554
Venator
Graves is into older men
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>>555877031
Graves is anything but honest
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>>555879316
Are you spamming 1 to lower the CD? Are you hopping between teammates to spread the healing?
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Silver!
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>>555877031
Build?
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>>555879079
battlerite actually didn't fail because of poor player retention
>game releases in EA
>gets some attention
>tourney proposals happen
>"no tournaments, smol indie dev please understand"
>game releases out of EA
>gets near 50k concurrent
>"smol indie dev, game too popular, please stop buying it"
>they release a couple new heroes and cosmetics
>development stalls
>1 year later they make a BR spin-off
>it fails
>they cease development and leave
I still don't understand what the fuck was going on in their heads.
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bebop is genuinely the most unfun piece of shit subhuman character in any videogame ever
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>>555880137
very true, very based, completely agree
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>>555880137
I agree!
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>>555880137
ENTER
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very cool update valve
i like the new interiors
cant wait for more
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Surely we can expect all neutral creeps to be more mobile at some point, right?
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Lmao graves has a 49% winrate in eternus and a 60% winrate in initiate.
>>555880420
They need to roam around like a pack of feral trannies
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>>555880482
99% of people here are closer to Initiate than Eternus
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>teleport to rem who just scurried into the vents
>fall out of map
ack
teleported right back in after a moment though
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so is graves busted or what? ive stomped all 5 games as her. i don't get if the people im laning against cant deal with skulls and im snowballing or if shes genuinely broken. i beat her pretty consistently tho.

emissary 3 playing with alchemist friends
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>>555880482
I'm an initiate chud
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>>555880362
under middle lane where the boxes spawn looks so fucking good, the entire map is gonna look amazing
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>brool with 2 supports on your team

instant loss
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What's the point in the ban system if people are using it to ban characters like Haze frequently in Street Brawl? When was Haze ever popular let alone strong in Brawl? Why is McGinnis never banned?
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>>555880626
people don't even attempt to hit the skulls and just run away hoping that bony horde will just time out
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>>555880756
democracy should be good but the people are retarded
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I had my first three regular PvP matches today after a couple days of bot games and a few Brawls with friends.
Yeah. I don't think this game is for me. That was the most miserable series of experiences I've had in games in a while. And by all technicality the first game was even for most of it and the final one was a win.
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>>555880756
fuck haze players
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>>555880947
who cares or asked?
Street Brawl was literally made for faggots like you so just keep playing that
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>>555880756
haze is still cancer in street brool not like she stops being OP at doing objs and getting kills for free with ult in it

she just doesnt get to build the meta items every game
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>>555880756
I hate haze and shes my ban choice in standard but I don’t get why she’s getting banned in brawl either
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>>555871951
We had leaks from around a week before the patch dropped that internal testers were buttmad about Apollo's movement and wanted it nerfed.
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I need the good Graves build id's
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what's with al lthe 'haze OP' spam in the threads the last few days did the update really flood the thread with initiates
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>>555880947
Understandable, mobas are a very complex genre and deadlock is very complex even by moba standards, most people wont get enjoyment out of it unless they're willing to put in hundreds of hours into it first
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>>555881202
idk about multiple people but there's one dedicated retard that endlessly complains about haze and hes been here a while
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>>555879139
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How do bans work exactly? If I ban mina am I guaranteed to never get her again or does matchmaking just aggregate all the bans each player picked and pick one?
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>>555880656
Nah, I had Rem and Dynamo on my team and it was my most fun brawl victory in my 200+ match career.
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>>555880947
try the "carry" play style
>pick infernous/wraith/seven/warden/mirage/haze, or victor if you can't aim
>either tie or win lane. you can always force a tie by just sitting under your walker and using heal right on cooldown
>sit on a side lane. own the side lane. don't die, just #1 kill minion waves, #2 do sinners, #3 farm neutral camps
>follow a left-to-right build. you might want to buy one extra green item if the enemy has a lot one thing (if they are all gun characters, buy gun armor, if they are all spirit characters, buy spirit armor, if they are all stun characters, buy reactive barrier)
>eventually in shitlo the enemy in your lane will just get board and leave
>you are now free to take the walker. make sure your "panic button" ability is off cooldown.
>it is now 25 minutes into the game, you should have 10k souls more than anyone else
>you are now allowed to leave your lane
>kill like 2 or 3 people
>get on mic "DO MID BOSS NOW OR YOU ARE THROWING"
>win game
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UPDATE
VENATOR WON
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Hello
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>>555881403
Only 2 players' bans are used per match. I have Paige banned but I still see here about every 3rd match.
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There's no worse feeling than being shit at a game you love.
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>>555879079
Hots actually only failed because blizzard wanted to shill the overwatch esports. Despite having a rough start the game actually ended up finding an audience after the 2.0 update and it was steadily growing until blizard pulled the plug out of nowhere to feed the overwatch league because they were desperate for a popular esport and hots esports wasn't competing with league's, even though they were steadily growing just like the rest of the game.
This isn't schizo cope, you can look it up
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why there so many women with silver hair in that game
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>>555881807
>Graves - emo bitch who died her hair
>Lady Geist - over a hundred years old, age reversing magic doesn't un-wighten hair
>silver - named silver
i think that covers it
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>>555881481
First game was Paige, and unfortunately she was the only of my four choices that I hadn't at least gotten some practice against bots with. And her gun is miserable even if her moves are kind of nice. I don't know.
After that I WAS focusing Infernous, but BOTH of those two matches I was getting harassed endlessly by a Vyper with a ton of CC paralyzing canceling my nuts, and a Victor and a Holiday who just very clearly knew their shit.
Had trouble figuring out when to use his 2 against players, it just seems like an excuse to get shutdown every damn time. I'll keep the reactive barrier in mind.
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>try gay talon
>miss all my shots
>feed mo & krill and rem
>get too salty and fuck up more
>my 15th loss in a row
I thought my duo queue was just bad but solo queue is the same. I think I'm just too fucking retarded for this game, see you when they add more easy mode heroes and a draft mode I guess bros.

if that Mo & Krill is here, you won because I'm fucking ass GG WP GL NEXT I'm fucking garbage and uninstalling for now, you broke my fucking spirit.
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>>555881506
HE'S IN
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>>555879554
>>555879727
Apollo. The "I don't hate him as much as I wish I did" line is cute and not even in a romantic way or anything.
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>>555882095
>I'm fucking garbage and uninstalling for now, you broke my fucking spirit.
you sound like such a fucking faggot holy shit lmao. i bet you start shaking when it's your turn in line to order at mcdonald's
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>Win ten (10) games in a row
>MVP or key'd
>Rank up once
>Lost 2 games in a row
>Both really close and balanced matches
>Key'd
>Derank
Raped to death by a pack of gorilla size niggers isnt even good enough for these devs
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I think of my last 20 games there was maybe one time my other 2 lanes didnt turbo lose before I could rotate, If you arent a turbo masochist autist like myself I would just take a hiatus until the tourists are gone.
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>>555882285
sounds like the matchmaking system is doing its job
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am i the only one having an issue with the game since the big patch dropped where it intermittently starts lagfucking itself into a stuttering freeze fest every so often that lasts for a second or so?
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>>555882309
what character? some are designed to be shit in lane
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>update adds 2 heroes that require no mechanical skill
>WHY IS THIS GAME SO HARD
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unrelated deadlock querstion but do any other mobas factor in lane stats for your comp rank? you really should get giga deranked if you let your shit get pushed in during the least team dependant part of the game
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>>555882493
positioning is harder than aiming
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>can't ban hero and random yourself at sametime
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>>555882468
I play everyone, im just saying in general my other lanes fold like paper while my lane is a stalemate at worst
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extra charge and rapid recharge should give you more helpers as rem
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>>555880024
Search up Mast.
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i reckon this is enough
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>>555882661
rem dont need no more goddamn helpers
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>>555882661
Silence Sinner-jew.
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>>555882716
maxing 3 first is so fun as him though
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Catholics will win
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>>555876834
WOAH PEOPLE BEING CRINGE... IN MY EPIC VALVE GAME??? ERMMM SO THAT JUST HAPPENED???

you sound like more of a redditor than the retard doing erp in chat congrats
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>>555879079
hots was more fun than dota ever was tbqh
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>>555880656
>instant loss
For the supports, right?
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>>555882749
i want my pikmin to do even more chores
let me throw them on people to make an additive slow
let max level carry urn
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>>555883090
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>>555881202
At least half of them are me
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>>555883159
kek'd
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>>555883159
>an ultimate... I'll steal it!
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>>555882493
aiming is by far the least skill-intensive part of this game
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>>555882707
Hey bro just here to cancel out your vote
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>>555883525
i main victor and even i know that's horseshit dude
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>>555881563
>new hero rants at the player and gains levels for feeding

KINO
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>>555883578
i'm sorry for your loss, i know it's sad to hear venator won't get in on monday since he doesn't have the compound votes from before. but hey at least he'll release next week for sure :)
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>debuff remover changed to dispel magic
I understand dispel magic is better as an in-universe name but debuff remover just communicated what it did so well
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Valve should add an actual vampire to deadlock
>inb4 "bro, your hideous gook mina?"
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>>555883578

Christchads about to win bigly
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>>555874295
You need to drop off a zip line with crouch and then within 0.7 seconds of dropping use Majestic leap. The key part here is the zip line letting you preserve momentum. You can also just crouch off it and go right into ult, or use grapple instead of majestic. It's even better with a zip line boost.
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>>555882226
can I have some ch-ch-chicken nuggets
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i think i am leaning venator bros he is looking very bad ass but i dont play m1 heroes, maybe he could be played bruiser? i like shiv
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>>555882095
sorry to hear anon
15 losses in a row is really unusual, it's hard for 1 person to be the fault for that many games in a row. you should get carried to victory somewhere along the way in there
if you're truly dragging your team down that much, you're no doubt dying too much. it's easy to not die in this game. just play safer, closer to objectives. if you find yourself low on souls, play support heroes that don't need many and try to hang around the strong player and babysit them until you learn better. try youtube videos to get better. heresy made a very descriptive laning guide recently that goes in-depth with many important mechanics.
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>>555883687
rope on stream when silver loses AGAIN
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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET THIS GUN VISCOUS SHIT OUT OF MY GAMES BETTER YET JUST REMOVE HIM AND WARDEN HOLY FUCK I CANT STAND THEM
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>>555883687
I have no clue what you said but I'm guessing your insanely mad
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>>555883578
>>555882707
>silver wins
>I'm happy
>venator wins
>I'm equally as happy
I win here. No matter what.
Unless Celeste trannies rig the vote like that bastard Joe Biden.
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>>555883746
He might counter Shiv, if the anti-tank description still applies to Venator
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so there is no matchmaking for new players you just get raped
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apolloGODS... slow and steady wins the race
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>>555883775
1. use the avoid hero feature
2. is gun viscous REALLY still that bad after they nerfed his damage by 28% and decreased all firerate item's DPS by 10%? at this point I'd think you're simply not counterbuilding
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apollo will win. mark my words.
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>>555883882
I think Apollo might actually beat Celeste, I genuinely see ZERO hype around her

No one gives a shit about her not even trannies
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>>555883756
NTA but I'm pretty much in the same boat, though not at 15 yet. I have something like a 20% winrate. I don't even feed most games, I'll just end something like 0/3/5 at 30 and feel like a complete nonentity.
I think it's because I don't know how to properly farm for shit, but even then I don't feel like I can look down on the guy who went 2/11/6 because at least he was playing the fucking game
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>>555883921
>not even the trannies
I opened the deadlock discord two days ago and the entire chat was spamming a celeste trans flag gif
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>push all the way up to their walker
>we tickle it a little bit
>they kill us
>they push up all the way up to our walker
>they burst down our walker from full health before any of us can respawn
HOLY SHIT STOP BUILDING SPIRIT YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS RETARDS
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>>555883921
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>>555883993
>47 wasted votes
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any advice on how to play Holliday? particularly her bounce pads, they feel so weird to use
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>>555883990
Nigga I am playing Pocket we don't get to be teleporting shotgun rapists anymore
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Where the fuck are the femboys
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>>555882095
Grey Talon got powercrept super hard. There are tons of better spirit nukers now that take a quarter of the effort to do damage AND also have miscellaneous utility out the ass.
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>>555883990
>fighting the enemy
>>at their walker
>>>while they've got micro and/or macro advantages on you
this is literally not a spirit vs. gun thing, it's a you and your team making bad decisions thing.
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back to street brawl this laning shit is fucking aids if you're new
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>>555884142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9yhG5vKca4
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https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/your-fucking-game-is-shit.103495/

kino alert on the forums, read before it gets deleted
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>>555883902
1. I am
2. How do you even counter build the guy honest question? No matter what i build it feels like im just wasting time and either way he gets to knock you around the entire fight cube and run away
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>if I dont counterbuild we lose
Am I really not allowed to just build what I want? Why do I have to build knockdown/disarming hex/silence wave
even on gun heroes every game?
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>New heroes come out with strong ults
>Sinclair steals them with a 40% CD
Sinclair chads keep winning
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>>555884217
Hes right
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>>555884217
The main issue is always just going to be the skill ceiling. I should have a pretty low MMR if they game makes any attempt at MMR matching at all, yet I keep running into people who can parkour like crazy and I shouldnt be having to deal with this at the lowest level.
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>>555884114
I'm talking about the real game and not your stupid fucking farming simulator.
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>>555884221
It depends on your hero. Some can do more against Viscous than others. Curse is usually the catch-all. It uncubes him, and debuff reduction is not as popular to grab as it used to be.
Metal skin is almost always good. Bullet Resilience stocks are way up because it got directly buffed AND bullet shred got nerfed, increasing its value tenfold.
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>>555883810
esl moment
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>>555884217
>broken english
>crying about optimization
kek
the swarthoid fears the coldtoad
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>>555884291
I had to google Sinclair to remember who that is
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>>555884291
I'm in shitlo and played against Sinclair for the first time yesterday as Rem
He hit me with some kind of projectile around corners for like 40% of my HP even through spirit res, multiple times, and he kept stealing my ult and turning my team into paste with it
I'm happy it'll probably be 40 games before I see him again because I couldn't do shit
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>>555884217
debate him
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graves is so fucking boring to play holy FUCK necromancerslop is always lame
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>>555884217
>"bro is crashing tf out"
and not a single argument refuted (because his arguments are irrefutable)
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>play first game
>play against people who have been playing for months if not longer
alright
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>>555884217
>If i was Pfizer and i told everyone
that i had Opiates that aren't addictive and made fake studies behind it, people wouldn't have one single doubt.
BARS
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>>555862741
So are they changing the voice lines back to "Summon me"???
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>q street brool
>enemy team is lash, bebop, seven, mcginnis
gg
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What is the counterplay when Rem presses the "make this creep invincible" button?
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>>555885554
That means you have graves, ez clutch
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The 1/13 Graves on your team is building gun.
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>>555885592
Shoot it
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>>555884217
very true except
>first week players can get archon easily
i have not heard from a single new player that they could get archon, they seem to be complaining way more about getting raped in initiate somehow
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>>555873987
Scrap her entire kit and start over.
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>>555873987
give her gun more range and enable headshots
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>>555875335
Ranger and rat king.
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Oh fuck first graves game how do I build her
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how do I build drifter and actually do anything against people who don't feed me kills for free by doing shit like obvious heavy melee or farming at low hp
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>>555885997
shouldn't you have asked that question before putting her on q?
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>>555885997
Spirit but also make sure to grab split shot it hit multiple creeps, jungle or enemies, ricochet works too. They make her "gun" not suck.
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>lose game
>rank goes up

T-thanks yoshi...
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What patch are they removing the shop? Shits retarded and moba leftovers need to be thrown out
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>>555885997
i've never played graves but i theorize arcane surge is great for her ult, especially since you never panic ult
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>>555886301
t. Shitter
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>>555886201
this stuff makes me wonder if the game cares about personal performance for ranking or what
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>>555886301
>What patch are they removing the shop?
1 week ago, retard. They added a no-shop no-farm mode
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>>555886301
Hopefully next patch when the mobaslop mode is replaced with 5cp
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Infernus is such a nigger character
Thank yoshi for bans so I'll never have to see him or haze in my games
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>>555885997
duration, echo shard, arcane dash
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>>555886523
Nevermind bans don't work in this game
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>>555884217
>It's preparing for cosmetics!!
Genuinely asking the heavenly idealists, how do you expect a free game to generate revenue
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>>555886398
of course it does, icefrog has been doing this since dota 2
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so do they purposefully make every new character OP as fuck? graves is abyssal to play against, and they don't even let you ban her
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>>555886958
>abyssal to play against
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>>555886958
it seems that they err in the side of power rather than weakness. every hero released in the august update, except mina, got nerfed almost immediately after release.
dunno why. maybe it's not intentional.
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>>555866701
>>555864779
You aren't mentioning Sinners Sacrifice
And are you prioritizing stealing the enemy camps?
For supports defensive items are fine, but for most other heros you want to build offensively when you're losing
Generally it means you might have a chance at killing them in cases of HP/Numbers advantage, and nothing slows snowballs down more than time in the spawn room
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>>555887119
>nerfed immediately
so how long do I gotta wait before this broken as fuck bitch stops ruining every single game she's in?
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>>555887239
how should i know
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>>555887119
It's probably better for "hype" to release a strong leaning character to fix later than a weak one
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is holliday an honest hero
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>>555887103
What do you think its like to fuck flubber
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How do I counter Abrams? I've already got Healbane but he's fucking invulnerable man
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>>555887408
Nah she's a trickster, the only way you can get more dishonest is being a sneaky invisible cunt
Gun Holliday is honest I guess though

t. 'day main
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>>555887547
You talkin about me?
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>>555887657
nta but how do you play her? every time i see people playing her on my team they do awful, and it feels like she doesn't scale well at all
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>>555887547
f key
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>>555887860
I punch barrels and shoot people
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>>555887860
this is what i like to do
trophy hunter very good on her
just use jump pads and bounce around and Q barrels from above
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>>555887657
i don't know whose idea it was to associate cowgirl sheriffs with bounnce pads of all things but i'm so dann glad they did
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>>555876834
>win
>still mad
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>>555888134
>trophy hunter
Sucks ass unless you giga stomp your lane (outside of shitlow where games can go for 40+ minutes)
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Ehh, kinda got carried but I got to win my lane at least and feel what a Graves with an actually won lane feels like. Was pretty good whenever I wasn't stuck rotating to side lanes to stop troopers from eating our walkers or waiting in a corner with skulls and tombstone up waiting for the enemy to blow their ults while my minions walk down the lane towards a walker
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how did venator get burned
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>>555888478
Called Infernus a black bastard
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>>555888427
Also still doing my part for the Venator chads since I got what I wanted. Hopefully he's a more general DPS rather than a "either he runs you down at point blank range or he tickles you if he shoots you from more than 10 feet away" type hero so I can play him instead of Gun McGinnis
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apollo is built for instant loss
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Now that the dust has settled, which hero has the most dust?
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>>555886079
I am not a smart man

>>555886131
>>555886320
>>555886601
Thank you for the pointers, we lost and I did not do well but I had fun
Dynamo got some of the craziest saves I have ever seen
I'm still not sure how to use her ult properly and her 1 feels like it takes forever to charge but the wall really fucks with people
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>>555888615
vote apollo you stupid CHUDS!!!!
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>>555883703
I want goofy bloodmage vampire
both of our vampires are too edgy
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>>555888817
Microplastics are the cause of all this mental illness.
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>>555888879
Not happening. Once we get Venator I ain't voting at all. All I wanted was Graves and Venator.
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>>555888831
Geist by a mile
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>>555879316
>157 day cooldown on Rem's ult
I get that it can hit people who aren't even in your match now, but that's still insane
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>Get a game full of chinks
>Each and every single one of them including my teammates are cheating
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>>555889069
All his cooldowns are a little on the long side.
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>>555888834
>I'm still not sure how to use her ult properly
spam it somewhere out of the way like behind a walker or on a roof. its pretty fucking one-dimensional tbqh
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>>555868291
actually fucking delusional. i get wanting a character you can connect to, but this isn't even reaching anymore, it's just straight-up fabricating shit.

character hides their true self, so automatically trans? so then are they saying that all trans are disgusting traps who don't even have the decency to warn someone that they have a dick? cuz honestly those are the ones i hate. if you're so proud, don't trick people into dating you. pretty convenient their flag isn't anywhere to be seen in their profiles on dating sites. hmm. wonder why.
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fuck you
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>>555889138
I hope our next furry friend is an adult male(smol) so retards don't backpedal and refuse to draw him.
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>>555862741
Last time I played Haze was before the stream/video embargo was lifted
Just played her tonight. Did they make her guns much more accurate? I don't remember having as easy a time shooting people
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>not good with heavy micro and precise positioning
>don't get to play holliday, sinclair, pocket, viscous, doorman, or lash
>don't like the melee system
>don't get to play abrams, drifter, billy, victor, or yamato
>don't like having to slide
>don't get to play vyper
>can't headshot or track for shit
>don't get to play infernus, paradox, vindicta, mirage, or bebop
haha
this sucks man
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>>555889406
If the rat hero is a legit leak and cute, Ill probably be fine with him.
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>>555889428
nope
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>>555887239
Probably a week or two
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>>555889138
Don't they know they need to give the shortstack short cooldowns to match?
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>>555889335
>don't trick people into dating you
when a trap can actually pull it off it's funny
if you can't tell the thing you're "dating" is not only male but actually an unfuckable victim of jewish sorcery, I'm sorry dude, maybe get your eyes and nose checked
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>>555889502
They also need to make them top tier to shows theyre tops.
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>>555889437
Lash is literally the most braindead hero in the game who practically plays himself
you just fly around and divekick from a high up and roll your face on your keyboard
for ults you literally just grab people and throw them towards your base/team and then do your faggot dive kick shit
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>>555889437
>play game
>uh I don't like anything about this game
>feel sorry for me

no
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they really need to make it so that if you queue with another person your cc lasts 1 second at most and you cannot buy actives
I’m so sick of party queue tryhard niggers man
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>>555889437
I have a hero just for you!
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>>555889437
>get to play paige, mina, seven and graves just like me
welcome
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Newfag haze player here
Been addicted for the past week and after trying out pub builds/experience I came down to this set of items
What are your opinions on prioritizing upgrade items?
Imho it's the best way to get the most out of your money in the long-run
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>play another shooter
>try to wallbounce and slide
I hate what this game did to me
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how do we think Silver is gonna play bros?
Wasn't the leak that her ult is transforming into werewolf and becoming melee/replacing her skills?
Will the ult be a cooldown or will it end up being a toggle form
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>>555890084
you want ALL the firerate, spirit lifesteal does nothing on that character
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>>555889712
You don't get it man, buying stamina mastery and walljumping off the edge of a wall to go faster takes a lot of skill.
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>>555889674
It'd be better if they made him bottom tier, because in this case I'd rather be on top.
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Valve... I kneel... she's perfect
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>>555889564
i thought it was a girl's penis, dumbass. not a guy's.
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>>555880626
>>555880817
The skulls aren't that bad themselves, the issue is how they'll go behind you constantly out of your view slightly, which makes them harder to notice when she gets hectic. Also her lasso is fucking annoying.
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>>555862915
When he gets a cock mod.
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>>555890312
Thank Concord flopping spectacularly for her existing.
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>>555890293
I want his ass on my face but suit yourself.
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>>555890353
>Also her lasso is fucking annoying.
she doesn't have a lasso...
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>>555889017
Based
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>>555890353
Holliday catching strays
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I keep losing as both shiv and paradox. I feel like even if my damage if high I'm not contributing enough.
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>>555888817
Do NA lobbies really?
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what is the point of Yamato's alt fire? it uses 3 ammo yet barely does any more damage than her m1
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THIS is what Paige should've looked like.
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Anyone release a detailed breakdown of how graves sucks at higher ranks yet?
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>>555891071
you can use it when you have 1 ammo or when someone goes just around a corner at 1hp for the killing blow because it has big splash damage.
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>>555889437
git gud whiny bitch
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Apollo will be dead on arrival because any retard can parry from the melee attack sound
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>>555891181
>sucks
>has a 50% wr
yeah man she must suck
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>>555891232
>He doesn't know
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>>555887547
buy gun items and kill him
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>>555891232
apollo does dmg with abilities, his sword shoots wind or something, not a melee
apparently hes hyper mobile with CD reduction and possibly his own dedicated faster parry
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>>555889437
Just do what I do. Either play Gun McGinnis and get Split Shot to guarantee landing your shots so Slowing Bullets take full effect and then just run the nigger down from there OR just play Gun Graves-- either diving backline alongside your fed teammates or sitting in your own backline acting as an anti-diver that eats people for trying to ooga booga on you.
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>sword autism character
>it's a brown manlet
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>>555891469
he's red though?
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Apollo will be the first melee-only hero. VOTE NOW
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80% of my games are like this since the update, I HAVE to win MVP to win, this shit is getting a little absurd. PLEASE tell me what I need to do
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im so sick of rem in brool

THEYRE ALL SO USELESS
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>>555891469
Sounds about right to me
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run for your pitiful lives

...

run for your pitiful lives
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>>555891469
Don't worry about it. Rapiers aren't real swords, nobody fucking respects Rapier sissies.
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>>555891583
nigga u didnt do anything either
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i havent seen refresher once in like 50 brool matches
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i have one good game and all my losses today have been forgotten
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>vindicta
loss
>no vindicta
you might win
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>>555891583
You don't win those. Your teammates fed 5+ kills by 8 minutes and auto lost you the game. Just AFK farm and go next.
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are people bored of graves so you can actually pick her yet or am i gonna have to wait another day for silver to come out?
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>>555892006
Silver ain't next tranny.
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>get cloak of opportunity
>use my ult
>get stunned out of it
>THEN it gives me unstoppable
what is the fucking point of this dog shit item
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>skulls have 1 hp
>just light melee
I just blasted them for a second each from mcginnis gun, they have hp growth
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>>555891957
I say this without hyperbole, this have been 80% of my games since Rem was added.
>>555891920
what is the definition of nothing? I have double the damage of anyone on my team + a keyslot, its hard to have 20k obj damage putting out the fire of a 7-0 out of lane vyper
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>>555862741
you got any source to who drew that ,looks really nice
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>>555891957
also if I int the rest of the game will that impact my ranking? Or do I need to afk farm to avoid a penalty
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>>555891698
I win 90% of my Rem games in brool
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>>555891583
you should be buying mystic shot second, it's a big powerspike for yamato in lane, it makes her right click chunk people and as a result makes your combo + poke stronger
bought way too many defensives imo, just build damage and rely on using your ult for survivability. at most one defensive but definitely not two shieldings and fortitude and enchanters.
had you bought damage earlier you might've been able to turn more fights early which may have changed the game. green yam early does a whole lot of nothing especially when she doesn't even have torment pulse.
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how to respond without sounding mad
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why is gun viscous allowed to be good
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if venator is really a m1 carry wouldnt he be squishy?? why would be squishy he looks massive
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When does the 0.5s of invincibility happen on invis t3 for haze
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>>555871620
She's the first character I played, she's so much fun
>>555871964
I love her voicelines and personality, her voice actress did a great job mixing mean/smug japanese with her silly accented english
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>>555892330
respond to what
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>>555892259
thank you, issue is that you can see I needed every ounce of healing with 28k healing since the enemy team figured out only haze and I were the only non-bots. I play every character, but per >>555891957 its just an auto loss, but this is pretty much every ritualist match right now.
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Is soul orb denying just a funny atavism yoshi is keeping for posterity?
What's the purpose?
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>>555892234
I dunno about it impacting rank, but AFK farming is basically how you avoid AFK penalties usually.
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why won't valve add a fox hero to deadlock?
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>>555892643
If they made a gruff daddy fox character I might forgive them for making Rem a little kid
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>>555892384
>>555892384
>>555892384
>>555892384
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>>555892553
yoshi hates melee only characters and uses orbs as an excuse to why every character must have a gun
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>finally got runed gauntlets on abrams
>team is so unbelievably bad it doesnt matter and we're insta stomped

brutal
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>>555892643
why won't you shut the fuck up and stop posting this shit here where nobody at valve will hear you?
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bought that off a nigga finna boutta get his legs broken
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>>555871620
there is nothing in this game that feels as good as hitting a Spirit Burn + Mystic Reverb Power Slash into the enemy team
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>>555892964
>where nobody at valve will hear you?
Thats where you're wrong
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>>555892982
why is infernus the only blahman in the game anyway
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>>555892384
still cant figure it out, when is the invincibility
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Is the warden guy still around? I've not seen his 50 cent blood in the sands screenshots in a while.
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>>555892982
ayo peep this nigga, dont get got
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>go to discord discord
>troons spam Silver
>instantly feel the urge to vote Venator
>go here
>people spam Venator
>instantly feel the urge to vote Silver

I am very vulnerable to propaganda.
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>>555893016
schizophrenic delusions, seek help.
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>>555893179
vote apollo
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>>555893179
Consider a swordsman
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>>555893179
You saved that Venator pic so you must have some preference
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>>555893149
Is it not just immediately upon pressing the ability?
You could easily test it with the melee mannequin in the testing stage.
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>>555866354
Visual touch ups ? Almost the entirety of the old cast. They need to be brought up to the current standard, basically what happened with Abrams or Ivy. Even some characters that had some slight touch ups like Pocket or Wraith still need details added to their model.
Even Ivy will probably still get an update to her animations by the way, her gun animation still doesn't make any sense and the barrel doesn't point where it's shooting.
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>>555893179
i hate how certain characteristics makes certain weirdos attach to them. unlucky i guess cause i'm curious of silvers werewolf abilities
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How do you play Drifter? Literally everyone outdamages him even 1v1.
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>>555893179
vote celeste
futa unicorn lady is actually the best choice
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>>555893496
buy better gun items

burst fire is a meme
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are you more likely to get health/spirit/gun items if if you buy their respective items? or is it truly all random and an rng fest?
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Is the Shop Owner actually present anywhere in the game? He's not the talking toy fortune teller head, right?
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>>555893443
No, but some of the new heroes need to be brought back to the original vision
What the fuck is celeste doing? What the fuck is Silver doing? Change these charcters, alon with Kelvin and Viscuous, to fit the aesthetics
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>>555893543
Like what?
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>>555893635
Compare the clothes' textures of a character with a locked-in design like Seven and the detail of any of the new 12 characters added. Almost all of the old cast needs a final pass if you ignore the complete visual reworks like Vyper.
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>>555893635
How do you think Drifter fits and Silver doesn't, they could be arcanas for each other
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>>555893614
Uh... what?
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>>555893652
anything that adds weapon damage

if you aren't chunking 10%~ of their health bar per shot you aren't doing enough damage

you have fire rate and bullet lifesteal built into your kit so don't bother buying more
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>>555893498
she is NOT futa!
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why haven't they added a spirit item that boosts cast speed?
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>>555893765
>Build bullet damage over fire rate
>Don't buy bullet lifesteal
I feel like you are trolling me.
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>>555893832
That shit literally broke Dota 2 for so many heroes when it was on blink LMAO
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>>555893782
80% of her fanarts will make you think otherwise
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Celeste's horsecock is gonna have smeggies that taste like wet cotton candy and restore HP.
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>>555893982
i was not aware that people drawing fanart work at valve, thanks for letting us know.
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>>555884217
>incoherent ramblings of a poorfag dirt
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>>555893746
Drifter is vampire adjacent
Silver is furry bait. Nothing wrong with werewolf but she is furry werewolf not regular werewolf
Plus shes a woman
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>>555893635
The "original vision" is Neon Prime models haphazardly edited for magic New York.
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>official scrapped redesign
>OOPS that makes ivy look too much like a female! rework it at once!
whoever is in charge of deadlock's DEI mandate is hopefully fired
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>>555894141
you missed the massive backlash from "ivy fans" when that was leaked.
you only have your fellow man to blame.
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>>555894045
not at valve but some certainly get into deadlock's art/dev team
so yes ,celeste will have a 20 inch futa horse cock
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>>555894141
cheesed to meet you
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>>555894141
lilo and stitch ahh redesign

>>555894247
my god the deadlock discord needs to be shot in the head
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>>555894141
Scrapped because it looks like shit.
Ironically the final design is way cuter than the made to be cute one.
Old old design fans go and stay go. That beast had to go.
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>>555894141
this looks bad
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>>555889437
So what DO you like? What ARE you good at?
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>>555894141
official leaked redesign for paradox
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>>555894093
It wasnt haphazard it clearly took a lot of time
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>>555891583
I give up, Yoshi WANTS me to uninstall. I literally cannot scale fast enough to beat whoever goes 8-0 in the sidelane. I get maybe one other human and 4 NPCs against 6 real people

do you think if I suggest making lane stats effect ranking up/down would anyone even read it on the forums?
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>>555894531
A lot of Valve Time, sure.
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>>555893498
She is trans canonically
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>>555894553
just play the game for kills and you'll roll competent teammates senpai
as always with these games, the majority of 'skilled' players gravitate towards carries and initiators, leaving tanks/supports to be a mixed bag, so you're gonna end up with this experience unless you play tank or support to intentionally climb
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>>555894553
that warden has to be a smurf
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>>555894734
look at my vindicta stats, a hard bot would have done better
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>>555894346
Here's the official rankings
Old design > current design >>>>> >>555894282
This is not up for discussion t. ivy PRO
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>>555894553
>that build
lol
lmao even
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Door-man is complete dog shit right now. The new base designs make his doors less powerful, Rapid recharge nerfs, curse nerfs, bad scaling, baroness can be complete with 1 stamina bar and good movement
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>>555894679
>queers see identity and delude themselves into thinking they said gender identity
i'm tired of you faggots
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>>555894282
>>555894469
>>555894679
Fucking based
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>>555882086
Your 2 as Infernus is mostly an escape, unless you're in high MMR lobbies nobody will bother buying Slowing Hex to prevent you from escaping and unlike DotA or LoL there's not a ton of CC abilities built in characters. Only use your 2 as a damage ability in chaotic teamfights or if you're sure you can finish the job.
Other than that Infernus is one of the most straightforward characters in the game and great for a beginner: your goal is building up your DoT. Toxic Bullets and Ricochet bring your gun to high RoF and make your DoT a menace in teamfights. Spirit Shredder and Bullet Resist Shredder is a virtuous circle where your gun allows your DoT to make damage and your DoT empowers your gun damage. Escalating Exposure means your DoT will deal increasing amounts of damage over time. Finally, incorporating some lifesteal in your build will make you tanky in fights. Top this off with some defense/counter items.
Not in the order I've listed them to build but it's mostly the gist of it. There's a dash build floating around I think too but I don't know if that actually works or if it's a meme. He's pretty much an hypercarry, you need the money to make it work.

With some time as you gain experience you'll be less overwhelmed with all the sensory overload in lane to make better decisions and focus on more macro stuff like checking out an enemy's items or your matchup.
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I do miss the goblin a little, but everyone was drawing her cute since day one so it can't be helped.
Vyper might "suffer" the same fate of having her redesign borrow heavily from the neon prime model since everyone already got used to it.
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>>555894929
La creatura will live on in my heart.
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>>555894553
Four (4, IV) does-nothing items in your inventory. 8800 souls wasted on NOTHING. Sad!
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they should redesign haze to be barefoot and have a tail like her old model
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>>555894857
The purpose of the hotel is to lock someone out during a key moment not for them to fail the hotel
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>expected /dlg/ to fucking hate celeste
>they hate silver instead
huh?
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>>555895049
God am I glad they didn't stick with Neon Prime
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>>555894734
could just be the shit matchmake, i've seen as far up as emissary/archon in "alchemist" lobbies
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the matchmaking is actually dogshit fucked
these games are horrible
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>>555894679
Deadlock is destined to be a playground for trannies
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They should add a shrinking circle in street brool mode to complete the transformation to fortnite with graves design
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>>555895224
more like 4chan is destined to be a playground for xitter screencaps
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>>555895114
/dlg/ is terminally contrarian, so they vote against people who don't even know they exist
filthy tumblroid troonsbians wanting to try and claim her as being a troon is all you need to make /dlg/ not want a werewife anymore
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>>555895178
it will go down as the design pivot of the century
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>>555895049
>we have Concord at home
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I really like how her tiny coffin earrings dangle as she runs.
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>our team is ass and we're 0-2 in brool
>get a lucky break off my ult and the enemy team is down 3 players
>get under their tower, its health is dropping insanely slowly
>???
>our haze is fucking shooting it outside of the minimum damage range

Holy fuck, how can people be this low IQ
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>>555895301
Ok but Graves is sexier than both so....?
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>>555895114
Vocal minority of yuritroons love her (unfortunately), so it makes people here hate her.
A lot of people here also shat on Celeste for having tattoos.
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>>555894679
not trans
shes literally just a real unicorn disguising herself as a freak girl obssesed with unicorns
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>play Rem
>enemy team does not have a Calico
>get caught out
>pop into one of the 5000 holes on the map
>now untouchable
am i missing something
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>>555895001
tell me what items I should have bought to carry the dead weight of a 5k total damage vindicta
>>555894807
would love to have a good build ID then
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Why has every other match been like this after the update?
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>>555895114
out of all the designs to hate, celeste is too obvious, and all the troons like silver because she's a butch 'mommy' which is repulsive to heteros
i think she looks cool and more like an older sister than a mommy
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I wonder how long Neon Prime was in development before someone with taste opened the door at Valve and asked "Why does this game look so shit? Dude just make it look like early 20th century new york instead"
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>>555895460
do not queue supports, only pick hard carries and steal all enemy farm
that's the only way to win these
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>>555895460
>graves feeding
erry time
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>>555895471
>Silver has cuffs

Has Warden found his wife?
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>>555895569
she's probably just a bounty hunter
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>>555895213
genuinely its so bad i don't understand why there's ranked. 1/3rd of matches have smurfs and whether you win or lose matches feels more like a coin flip on who gets better teammates
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>>555895556
teams with graves win 90% of the time thoughbeit
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>>555895471
>butch 'mommy'
From the snippets we have so far, she feels more like a 30 yo retard in need of fixing
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>>555895460
Same thing as last voting batch, mix of new players and returning bad players due to new character hype
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Apollochads stay winning
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>>555895696
post your wall
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Spamming random in skeet brawl has resulted in me playing every character multiple times and I gotta say it's crazy that like 95% of them are really fun.
The only ones I didn't vibe with were Paige and McGinnis
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hmmm I wonder why people prefer street brawl
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>>555895696
>video game addict is also a pedo
baka anon sempai
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>>555895770
Because they're jeets, so they want to play jeet brool
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>>555895460
genuinely if the other team is deathballing and your team refuses to deathball your match will end up like this
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>>555895784
>calling someone a pedophile while using babytalk
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what's the jungle cleansing build for characters with slow guns that don't get shit out of tesla bullets?
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>>555895770
this happens in brawl too when some fucker gets 3 enhanced gun items in one round and then a legendary on the next.
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>>555895884
lifestrike
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>>555895682
she's just like me
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>>555895909
This doesnt happen
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>>555896067
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i really dont want to lose this picture bros. once his rework comes out i will lose this picture never to post again :(
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>>555896180
Is he gonna look THAT different?
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>>555896180
least obnoxious viscousfaggot
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rough match to end the night on
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>>555896350
>two posts across a month
Oh no?
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>>555896337
more bara, less silly goober
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>>555896180
Thats one of my favorite viscous pictures I hope we dont lose it when they get remodel
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>>555896429
why did this turn me on
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>>555896180
Classic viscous, I will save this one and post it when we get rework
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>>555896513
because you were raped by your dad
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>>555896513
Cute bitch tits
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>>555895471
People calling her butch are out their fucking minds.
McGinnis is butch.
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>>555896180
Im gonna miss this viscous when remake comes out
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>>555896429
I do really like the visible little guy piloting the goop
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>>555895471
>celeste is too obvious
because it's rancid
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>>555895471
>butch 'mommy'
These two aesthetics are almost the exact opposite of each other
You have brainworms and they're making you retarded
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>>555896180
I'm still gonna be posting my current set of vyper pics even after she gets her redesign
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>>555896726
No man, muscle mommies are a fairly common troon thing associated with futa and basically being a man with long hair and tits, this is not new online. I won't deny the brainworms but it just means I'm more informed on these matters
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>>555896429
Why did people hate the tourist Viscous remodel, I thought it was fitting
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>>555895114
you're on 4chan of course midwits gonna hate fictional lesbians (possibly trans according to the lore). You're newfag tourist you would never know. Get pinkpilled
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>>555896852
vyper does not look like that
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>>555896707
I think she's actually cute in a crystal maiden sort of way, out of all the heroes she looks most interesting to me and her kit is the biggest mystery
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>>555896892
that's from her chopped chud phase, she had a glowup
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>>555896852
>>555896180
Im gonna miss these classic designs when they get remake
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I've liked all the character designs this batch :)
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>>555895114
youre just misunderstanding other people as usual
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i like the current viscous model, one of the least in need of a remodel
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>>555896996
I don't particularly care for Celeste but I like all the others and Venator will probably become my main unless his kit just really doesn't click with me
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>>555897065
He’s literally just green Kelvin currently
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>>555895471
She's 100 giving me lesbian energy. Just wait for them to confirm it.
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What's your longest match you've ever played anons? I just somehow did a 64 minute, 17 second match. Highlights:
>Mercurial Magnum Mina
>Haze ending the game with 39k souls and 102k net worth
>Paige buying 2 greens the entire match with both of them 3.2k and the remaining items being all Spirit
>Warden ending the match with 131k player damage
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>>555862945
Perfect night for a werewolf to cum
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>leather jacket dive bar/motorcyle girl is such a dead aesthetic the teens are calling it muscle mommy
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That's a big gun.
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>>555894141
the current design is way cuter than this
t.Jvy main
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>>555897237
For you
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>>555897213
of course, this kind of rural america just doesn't exist anymore
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>>555897237
4u
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>>555897237
>>555897237
>>555897237
>>555897237
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>2-19 billy
>check profile
>2 games street brawl
>first normal match is with me (archon vi)
what is this matchmaking dooooood
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>>555897091
he's modified off kelvin's base model, but they look clearly different with kelvin's additional clothes + artifact and viscous' head + transparent body + skeleton
it's better than every potential redesign they've leaked
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>nerfed certain ults in Street Brawl
>but still has the guaranteed win Piano
I don't understand.
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>>555896180
viscous will be like morphling in dota 2 and never get a remodel, making him look increasingly bizarre as the game evolves around him
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I like Drifter because he lets me pretend I'm playing a good VtM game
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>>555896180
What a classic design Im gonna miss it when they get rework
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>>555897241
Ivy is by far the most appealing when she's a freaky little shit. I'm so glad they killed the rework.
Viscous is sorta in the same boat but he's more obviously unfinished, Ivy's could be final with a small detail pass.
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Seven would unironically be an ally and use your preferred pronouns
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Can the russians just get their own fucking server already? They clearly don't like playing with non ruskies so why the FUCK am I the one having to deal with 5 russian retards in my team that refuse to help me because I don't speak their fucking orc speech?
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>>555879727
Apollo is Graves' lab partner and she actually likes him. Nothing to indicate he's a dick to her at school.
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celeste will mog silver
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>>555897358
He’s literally Kelvin’s Neon Prime model but green and transparent, no way are they keeping him as is
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>>555897213
when are we getting a male character that wears a leather jacket
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>>555897496
Whenever they tilt me I remind them of Donbass
Enjoy conscription ivan!
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>>555897496
First of all its callred cyrillic and second russians are based white and run all valve games so better be thankful fucking newfag
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>>555897490
seven would block ICE vehicles
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>>555897496
They'll just VPN out, they hate playing with other russians.
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>>555897490
He wouldn't be an ally and he wouldn't be a chud either. he'd just call you a vapid idiot for caring about such things and wasting your potential
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>>555897540
kys modtroon
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Seven would suck my cock because my name’s Kelvin
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>>555897543
i never said anything about what they will do, it's about what they should do
they should leave him as is or modify his current design in moderate ways rather than a full redesign
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my fucking god dude
matchmaking is so fucking bad
46 minutes and the yamato does 8.8k damage what the FUCK
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>keep bailing out an unbearably garbage team but im not a carry hero so can never actually finish it
I shouldnt have even bothered since I wasnt on graves shoulda let it end coulda saved me twenty minutes

deadlock kinda ass no reason for games to EVER last 50 mins the new base is shit
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>>555897591
kek
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>>555897663
stop projecting anon
celeste wont become trans just to make you feel better
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>>555897540
Based Miyabi enjoyer
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>>555897840
Celeste is nonbinary stupid chud
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>>555897713
archon is fucked because they dumped all the new players here
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>>555897496
I live in EU, so it won't help you escape me.
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>>555897759
so true
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>>555897951
good thinking yoshi
dont like put new players in initiate or whatever... because why would that make sense
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>>555897945
you should really learn who the slurs are for before adding it to every sentence
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>>555897713
>>555897951
are any of the devs aware of this? I also had a random average 190 damage per minute here >>555894553 too. I have lost 12 of the last 16 and I'm not even ranking down. I'm thinking about making an alt since I was a very casual oracle when I played during 4 lanes
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thred pls
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>>555897840
>>555897945
two mexicans fighting
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>>555898337
nta retard
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>>555898406
>>555898406
>>555898406
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>>555876834
It's genuinely kinda amazing how you can be a grizzled moba veteran and have thousands of hours under your belt and still come across someone that makes you boil all over again. Like there is no lowest low.
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>>555878024
>AverageJonas build
it's shit
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>>555889069
>it can hit people who aren't even in your match now
Okay explains my team mates in my last game. Getting dived near walker veil on mid and my three team mates just continue farming right next to me while I'm calling for help on mic.
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>top fetish
>your three mains
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>>555884098
>>555882095
grey talon is not weak. you just go gun and chunk 15% of someones health bar because you shot them with your epic bloated flying hydra attack.
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>>555882661
They should just make it so helpers are tied to rapid recharge instead.
>>555884226
I play Ivy/Paige. If I don't build a curse literally every game the game is noticeably harder and any chance of the game being ended quickly is thrown out. You have to shoulder the burden for you leave behind people that will never see eternus.
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>>555889850
oh you're gonna tell me the low dps gun with fast rof doesn't take tracking huh. stoneform doesn't require precise positioning? you don't slide on ivy of all characters? most ritualist post this thread.
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>>555891920
>top networth in a team with wraith haze
>top damage in a team with wraith haze
>top objective damage in a team with wraith haze mcginnis
>top healing in a team with paige mcginnis
you're a retard
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>>555894695
every support in the game is an initiator of some sort
>kelvin, dynamo, paige, ivy, rem
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>>555894679
trannies pogging out over an ugly character being just like them. yes, they are just like you.
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>>555895224
Nah only when it goes into maintenance mode. Like what happened with TF2.
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>>555895682
me next
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>>555895426
if you take any damage you can't use it.
>>555895819
genuinely if the other team is deathballing and your team refuses to split push your match will end up like this
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>>555896513
reminded you of your uncle
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>>555897125
60+ minute game caused by the era of soul rebirth. all 12 people had one. it was miserable.
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>>555897496
they don't like playing with ruskies either. they literally gave them their own servers on dota 2 for like a week and they SCREAMED about how horrible it was to play with other russians and claimed it was 'racist' (this is coming from supposedly white people talking about other white people being racist). it got removed. they did the same here for a week and they screamed again. russians hate russians. even they know the pain of dealing with snow niggers. pity they lack the introspection to bother being any better than that.
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>>555897591
1) they're cave drawings
2) it took until dota 2 died for them to win a single TI
3) they're all gay cheating cunts in every game they play
4) highest HIV rate in europe
5) they had a collective mental breakdown at the prospect of only being allowed play with eachother on TWO occasions
6) getting raped by grain farmers in ukraine
7) actively pursuing alliances with india
nice 'based' country you have there LMAO
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>>555897713
>>555897951
>>555898339
would not be one bit surprised if street brawl counts towards ranks (at least upto a point) and they're being seeded in archon because they got boosted by their stack
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>>555897591
the alphabet is cyrillic. the language is not, its russian.
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>>555882095
Pussy bitch, I had a 20 loss streak and went into negative winrate, but I clawed my way back. Learn to play the game.
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>>555893179
>Mindless kneejerk contrarianism because you lack any thoughts or opinions of your own
Well, at least you're posting on the right site.



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