Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves: Legends Edition Now Availablehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ur8WYwB0k>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2492040/FATAL_FURY_City_of_the_Wolves/>Season 2 January 22https://youtu.be/tqe1RBmJ9S8>KENSHIROhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACnFBb_RAfw >Community resourceshttp://dreamcancel.com/how-to-play/ https://wiki.supercombo.gg/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zg8H1AgpgPBbAdpPdsGC3WRUEmGVajbv2Ea6b-FZ1kI/edit?gid=0#gid=0>DandyJ's beginner guide to KOFhttps://youtu.be/Ye3KVgI1LvU >KOFXV beginner guideshttps://youtu.be/t-mYZnOFxlg https://youtu.be/cqTpKMethDo>KOF XV Grand Final SNK World Championship 2025https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_og0dUoTlFc >/neog/ Discord: https://discord.gg/HYAQYFh>Official SNK Discord:https://discord.gg/SNK>KOFXV Discordhttps://discord.gg/mePUQup755>SNK Media Galleryhttps://pastebin.com/R7uX3B5J>Assorted Translationshttps://kof.eu5.org/>NEO-GEO FREAK Magazine Archive https://archive.org/details/@japanesemagazinesscans?sort=titleSorter&&and[]=subject%3A%22neo_geo_freak%22>RedGGPO and romsethttps://redggpo.com/https://archive.org/details/2020_01_06_fbn>KOF Official Site backuphttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1n98CoBR6GPywr3kzyydNCT5UHTwMNW51/viewPrevious Thread: >>555088767
PUT HER IN COTW#justicefortsugumi #enoughofsausages #andyisgay
>>556099278
>me checking /neog/ every day to see if Alfred has been confirmed
26 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAv2EeCfjkg
>>556187835Nameless should be the one getting slapped. Krohnen killed his chances of ever coming back
Lucky Terry
>Fighting Game of the Year>Already bumped down 3 places on it's 2nd EVO appearance by a shitty Tag Fighter that it won against, and years-old Anime FightersSNK will never be on-top bros...
>>556156051My idea is to change her hairstyle a bit, keep it short ant tomboyish, maybe like this, make her wear a dolphin short on her spats, and let her show the tummy area, as for the upper body, I don’t know anything goes.
>>556195871It’s especially funny that 2kuso is more popular, since oda killed kofxv support just to make a 1v1 version of it and called it fatal fury, as if kof’s problem was the 3v3.. Not only this, Marvel Tōkon is 4v4 game just to humiliate oda even more.
>>556195871who was it that seriously thought cotw would get reinvigorated interest simply because of the s2 shitand furthermorehmmmmmmm who could have predicted this result *whistling innocently* hmmmmMMMMmmmm
That is earlybird Registration and EVO is still 4 months away, so it'll probably end up at 4th place by then. The game is balance is good, there'll be more stages/features by then, and KenGODro will already be revealed before EVO which will boost numbers.
>>556209529>so it'll probably end up at 4th place by thenlol
>>556195093indeed
Shikuru breeding Poppy when?
>>556209728Explain why/how it won't.
>>556211542i don't need to and it wouldn't be worth doing it anyway to deaf nosesjust know that by the end of it, i'll be right (again) (as usual) for the umpteenth time
>>556209529You always sound like a robot when you try to praise this game
This game getting a season 3?The DLC releases being every month is good though. Just worried about what they do afterwards for the rest of the year
yay?
>>556226849Nice AI, Snk.
>>556180683>>556180768>>556180973Give KOFXV another season!
>>556187835>>556190986>>556195093>>556221603FLAME ON
>>556230565Reckless Firehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVH66YvV9W8
>>556185003>there's no game inside Indeed.
>>556229974How is Chun in COTW?
>>556231636Zero Strike
>>556232134Pretty strong now. She has great neutral and is a menace when you corner someone.https://x.com/vryu123/status/2015928299243884560Meanwhile, Jenet... >>556041264
>>556195871I'm more impressed of Invincible VS even having players. But honestly we still need to know if it's like EVO Japan that has over half of its entrants going for SF6 and the rest of the games having 2 digits of entrants.
>>556195871>Fighting Game of the Yearthree times, even!
>KOFXV misses fighting game of the year to a game you can't even play anymore>Geoff Keighley gives CotW a pity award for this blunderHe's done this before because he has zero conceptual awareness of how the industry operates. This is like Sekiro beating Smash Ult for GotY 2019 because none of the Dark Souls games ever got nominated for shit. The only opportunity a fighting game would have been seen as more than a novelty stuck in its own niche STILL lost to a pity award that's completely needless in a post-Eldin Ring worldAnd SNK can't even genuinely win on their own merits. They needed to have NO competition last year to succeed
>>556247683That's what makes an event lose credibility (despite the large audience). They should have transferred the award to KOF15 the week Multiversus ended its activities. Imagine having another KOF15 season if it had won? Fuck, Gayoff.
>>556247683>Geoff Keighley gives CotW a pity awardSame pity award Tekken and SF won. Same pity award Warner had to bought.
>>556253413oh now that you put it that way, that TOTALLY puts cotw at the same level as those two games now!
Post characters who are NEVER making it before the game dies>Hard Mode: No Michael Max, Hwa Jai, Axel Hawk, or Lao
>>556255994Here's a fucking combo
>>556255994
>>556247683I'm impressed how many cares about that shitty award. It isn't even given at the stage. They just throwaway who won between a commercial break just to be done with it every single year.
kek
boomer humor be like "LOL AI slop XD"
Whats the general game flow of city of the wolves? Does any of the DandyJ video transfer?
>>556276395Now I want porn of the red girl.I mean, DLC haha, ops.
>>556278834Aren't his videos on kof?
>>556280640Yeah but i couldnt find any cotw specific ones and dreamcancel seems to be down. Neutral feels very scrambly and im struggling with antiairs
Can you just defend (in cotw) by rev guarding at the right time or nah?
>>556287369I guess not... I just tried it I thought maybe there was some trick to it since pros are parrying everything I just SUCK
>"Mai from SF6"
>>556287369No lol
>>556290084Yes, anon. To the world, Mai belongs to Street Fighter. but Andy is still gay.
>>556290164h b queen
awrooooo
>>556258418Who are those
It’s still weird to me that the ceo was axed and that’s it the support continued and another more millions wasted on swc, it means they’re aware the game flopped but made no attempts to learn or improve. To me it’s clear the order came from the saudis when they saw the financial results and then got back to being hands off again.
>>556311087They probably had all that stuff planned before launch. Not like they have any other games right now to cut off support
Why can this game not keep players? Update happens, player count more than triples, goes right back down to the 200s.
>>556313910Games need to be fun to keep a player base. Nothing really fun hopping online on a game just to get your ass beat. Game has no worthwhile single player content since EOST is just a super fucking boring grind with no interesting visuals or stories in-between, Arcade mode is somehow more half-assed than KOFXV'sWhat's there to even say?
>>556313910It's not good NERF REV BLOW for fucks sake that shit is game ruining
>>556313910Because it's not fun to play for a bunch of different reasons.
>>556315549but d00d you need a mickey party button else the game is mad boring fr fr
>>556287369>>556289902Nah, JD can be only done by tapping back/down+back and you already have 8 frames to do it so it's pretty generous compared to MOTW.>>556314135EOST is fun for what it is. Expanding the arcade mode with more stories for the characters and finding some trivia or just silly stuff.I like it's not really a "grindfest" since it's pretty easy to beat the main story but I agree that there's no incentive to finish it 100% unless you want some icon for your profile. Should've made more fun like old Soulcalibur weapon master and had maybe more artworks or albuns to unlock like KOFXV.
hello?
>>556290164happy birthday, here's more recycling, much like what we do with every game we've been making
>>556326271is it me you're looking for?
>>556309735From left to right I think it’s Alfred, Chonrei, Chonshu, and Xiangfei
actually stopped posting here because I'm done with the schizos on this site, can't stand them anymoreis season 2 any good?
>>556313910The game pre Chun-li was below 100 players, it’s only retaining an average 200 players because of the SF characters btw. What does this tell you? COTW’s characters suck and people don’t find interesting ones to main and keep them engaged.
>>556312245Swc wasn’t planned before launch
>>556180431That's an excellent picture.
Andy is gay
>>556342586Run, Andy, run! You can't trust that annoying bitch. Go to Tsugumi instead.
>>556243882Chunli looks better in COTW than SF6. Haha.>>556290164>>556294895SF6 Cammy stole her look
>>556332645Yeah
>>556332645yet you came back for more
>>556342586Do you have it with the meme song?
>>556342586have shota andy
Street Fighter Team in KOF16
>>556154542Modern devs and scrubby influencers raised helped shape games and a FGC addicted to rushdown. You see it in everything, and most 'SNK' games since 2002 UM. Even in here, even with CotW, you'll see zoomers raised on unga bunga, crying about things like Oki and not knowing how to cope with meaties after losing neutral. They cry to the devs to make everything homogeneous. Inputs, health bars, damage, everything. Hell, these nu scrubs whined that the entire game's meta should change, for every single charactersl, due to 1 single move (Marco's overhead).Think about that. They have a problem with the move. But instead of wanting that move nerfed, they wanted the entire game changed for all characters to make it even MORE rushdown than before - the exact thing nobody liked about it. Mega kek.
Mai from SF6!
It's Ken from Fatal Fury!
nobody even knows fatal fury exists to say such a thing
Terry from Smash Ultimate
Terry from KOF been a thing for decades that's why i'm confused
>Terry from Smash >Mai from Street FighterSNK AAA company in 2033
>>556383908>Realize how incompetent the people underneath your regime are>Make the biggest multimillion dollar loss of a game in the industry>Decide to fuck off instead of sticking with your boasts>Guy after you still committing to thisKind of incredible just how purely toxic CotW is as a game
somehow I feel like COTW’s plotline would’ve worked better as a side story in the KOF setting
>>556391767Fatal Fury could never really escape Geese's shadow as a story. FF2 and FF3 really didn't do a good job establishing new threats that felt genuine, which is what led us to Rock being the main focus of MotW. Since his story doesn't really go anywhere significant in CotW, it doesn't feel like anything was accomplishedIt's really a presentation issue though. Rock being Jin lineage helps the Jins not feel so irrelevant and pointless in the grand scheme of the story, but>No villain in CotW for Rock to overcome and become a stronger protagonist>Jins are missing when this is the most relevant they've ever been>Geese got whitewashed instead of falling under the sins of his father>The power vacuum struggle between Billy, Kain and Mr. Big never feels like a genuine threat or situation>The MotW cast in general are pointlessEvery KOF adaption more or less integrates the Fatal Fury 1 story because it's really FF's only accomplishment. The same thing is the case for AOF1. Since SNK ended up pivoting to KOF being their "main IP" returning to Fatal Fury ended up feeling more like a diversion and not a true franchise for the company to bolster as part of their repertoire. It just feels like lesser KOF in its presentation. It's like capeshit. People don't want to see the individual stories of the lesser characters on their own like Flash, Green Lantern or Thor anymore. They have to be a part of the bigger, more important crossover where eyes will actually get to rest on them instead of being completely ignored because "it's its own thing"SNK just outright fucking failed to justify why anyone should treat Fatal Fury as its own thing
>>556398835It also doesn’t help that Krauser is confirmed to be both alive and also an offshoot of the Jin family too, the latter of which doesn’t even come out of nowhere since it’s a part of FF3’s plotline that he had one of the three scrolls and Geese stole it, but he’s also just completely irrelevant to COTW’s narrative
>>556354464Replace Mai with JURIhttps://www.tumblr.com/hershuargames
>KOF XI & Samsho 6 at EVOwhat the fuck
>>556391767As I've said before. If you're not going to justify to people why you're creating a new fighting game, then don't create a new one, because people won't be interested.>ElaborateRing outs and extra lanes should have been standard in Cotw. To play in tournaments. The graphics should also be much better. Not just a little polished KOF15 version. If SNK asked fans if they wanted Garou 2 as KOF15 2.0 but single player and PowerPoint endings or all the characters/stages from Garou 2 in KOF15, they would choose the second option (obviously). Then, they didn't need to spend millions creating/marketing a new one. They could have put all the characters and stories in KOF15 while focusing on other things. New IPs. Etc. And everyone would have been happy (or less annoyed than they are now).>tl;drOda is retarded.
>>556410802>Neowave
>>556410324Based artist
>>556410802Collection re-relase soon
>>556391767Well no it wouldn't
>>556410802what the fuck is that?
>>556424446side tourneys
>>556412482Holy shit
>>556313910It feels like it's beginners (very few) and then everybody else who's serious about it (majority). In Bronze, I get taunted and disrespected when I run into serious players. I don't need superpowers a la SF6/T8, but the game isn't fun for new players. Also, the characters uninteresting.
Post some cool webms Do any of you even play snk games?
>>556410802>>556436668And it only gets worse
>>556452508SNK games? What are these things? Never heard of them. Anyway, here's Terry from Smash in Street Fighter.
SNK should bring back this look
>>556452508why is that our obligation if you doubt us like that? if we're the ones shitting on snk games, why would we think to have "cool" webbums to show it off
>>556383908>>556459991SNK should re-make/release SNK HEROINES Tag Team Frenzy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUiMP8OfrY0
>>556446151Too much of a round is taking or receiving the same 1 or 2 optimal EX to E to EX combos which, thanks to FGC whining, are retard level easy to do. That's not even mentioning how dumb it is to have both JD and a 1 button, anti-chip dmg block. That's not even going into no nerfs to Rev Blow.
lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB33H-iRM-E
>>556469558>the only snk part of this video is a nak clip in a capcom-made game at the tail endlol it really speaks volumes on the proportion of the market sf has against snk, that even snk is only relevant in the scope of something made by capcom
one thing about playing a game that snk doesn't get is that it's a very feedb-oh nevermind
See? I told you guys it should be Baki instead of Kenshiro:https://youtube.com/watch?v=_TYx9iNvk9EYounger audience = BakiOld farts = Kenshiro
>>556462446fuck off falcoon
>>556472004the ugliness of the artstyle would eloquently match the ugliness of bjenet's face so i'd buy that being the case just on that alone
>>556472408Falcoon >>>> Ono >>> schizo (no kidding) >>>> Oda
>>556472553Ironically
>>556473240and unironically baki isn't even the top 5 of what zoomers are even watching or caring about at all rn smdh
Haha What if Lien was actually Rock's mother? hahaHa
hahaha
>>556410802>Soulcalibur IIII love the series but are they fucking insane? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0kC_QQ4-ggAt least have Arcade Edition but I'm pretty sure they'll have the new port for PS4/PS5.
>Oh hey, I just found they made a good figure of Suzuhime->found she's 14>
>>556480717
this picture applies in two ways today
>>556480717>>556480883
>>556480717...out of 10!
I’m now wondering if there’s a list of when each Fatal Fury character made their last playable appearance, I wonder how skewed it is towards KOF and miscellaneous stuff like NGBC
When are they showing Geese????
>>556495318Aren't the only FF characters that have been playable in the past 25 years and not in cotw just Yamazaki, Tung, Alice, Raiden and Duck King?
>>556499470And only 3 of them have 3D models
Meanwhile we get preecha…
>Alicesecondary-kun...
Mature and Vice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Ce-r9ETKA
>>556495318>>556499470Let's actually go down the list of when everyone was last seen, assuming I got this right (just did a quick scroll, also factoring in the confirmed DLC characters):>KOF15 [4 years ago]: Kim, Yamazaki>KOF14 [10 years ago]: Tung>KOF13 [16 years ago]: Hwa Jai, Raiden/Big Bear>KOF 2002UM [17 years ago]: Xiangfei>Maximum Impact 2 [20 years ago]: Richard>KOF11 [21 years ago]: Duck>NGBC [21 years ago]: Chonshu, Chonrei>MOTW [27 years ago]: Freeman, Grant>First Contact [27 years ago]: Rick, Lao>Wild Ambition [27 years ago]: Touji, Tsugumi, Ryo/Mr. Karate II>Dominated Mind [28 years ago]: Cheng, Lawrence, Bob, Franco, Hon-Fu, Sokaku, Alfred, White>RB Special [29 years ago]: Shadow Andy, EX Mary, EX Billy, EX Tung>FF Special [33 years ago]: Jubei, Axel>FF1 [34 years ago]: MichaelBONUS ROUND:>Maximum Impact 2 [20 years ago]: Lilly Kane>KOF Neowave [22 years ago]: Young Geese>RB Special (Gameboy Port) [28 years ago]: Iori
>>556508313*Double-checked and fucked up, Alfred last seen in First Contact too
>>556508313Thanks, ChatGPT anon.
>>556509290>ChatGPTI just scrolled through the wiki a couple of times over, actually caught me off guard learning that Richard of all people has had a more "recent" gameplay appearance than like half the cast
>>556508313You forgot about Alice
>>556511932You're such a dumb motherfucker
>pachinkoSHIT
>>556502552Nako with machine gun is real now.https://saltamiya.com/products/gun-nakoruru-sticker
>>556508313>Rick (27 years ago)>Axel (33 years ago)>Micheal (34 years ago) ...
>>556284630A spic just uploaded a video guide for COTWhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_9VkdpRw3sIn spanish of course.
>>556512584>>556501124Still counts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu_or4UY5iM
>>556508313Most of these characters right now...
>>556522439Only if it has Samurai Messi
>>556508313>no Fatal Fury Iori that's more mellow and uses orange flames exclusivelyWould've been great rosterbait
>>556462446Based Falcoon
>>556515010boxing niggas (some figurative, some literal) are suffering
Which SNK character is not allowed to be good?I used to play Zangief a lot when I played street fighter and every time I played or a new version of the game would come out I would think to myself, why does capcom hate Zangief?. Then I played strive and thought to myself, this is why Capcom hates Zangief. Haha.Command grapplers are NOT allowed to be good in Capcom games.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEWNoFkTpJ0>>556470330Nakoruru forever!
>>556523901Change the hairstyle and eyes and you have a new character with good fit
>>556537128Grapplers and big bodies in general as well. Mainly Tizoc, Chang and Daimon. Mostly because of what they have done in the 90's.
I don't like SF fans they're annoying and they think their series is similar to ours when it isn't
>>556544651Oda is the biggest sf fan
>>556480717>Suzuhimedidnt know about her uoooooooh>she comes from an xbox exclusivealright guess ill never be able to play her game
>>556480717hot
>>556526850He totally drew this with one hand
>>556562184yeah it's weird because artists usually draw using both hands, each holding a pen
https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2019525289177420071Find your relatives /neog/
>>556564584>evo kof entrant count dropping like flies
I use a hitbox cos I put my buttons like thishttps://youtu.be/w8Pbfxi46HsMy fight-nick is BoobButton
>>556564584Big L for the SNK community
>>556562184Even more based
>page 9FiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAnDyIsGaYfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDaFiReOdAfIrEoDa
I can't believe Oda killed SNK and Neog...
>>556519324Snk back to pachinko in 3,2,1
Mai, Kula, Shermie, Angel, Blue Mary, Jenet, and Hotaru are getting new figures under the Golden Head brand.
>>556593072cont. It appears that they will pick their latest designs for all of them. For example, Angel supposedly shall get her XV attire.
Looks like I will have to shell out..
>>556593072>>556593306>>556597103Hot glue anyone?
Hermanos, she nailed it. She's Athena.
>>556604762>AI SLOPFuck off
>>556593072>>556593306>>556597103I hope they improve their face sculpts because their Mai looks kinda retarded
>>556612575they want the snk grafics audience
>>556472408
I can't believe KoF is a game for losers
>>556625958Kofbros... Not like this...
>>556625958>Kasumi
Teammates in the background (KOF16)
SNK general where we post anything but SNK
>>556612575Don't get your hopes up too much, Kula's face looks pretty bad too. She looks much more stupid than usual.
>>556640307Oof
>>556508313>Wild Ambition [27 years ago]: Touji, Tsugumi, Ryo/Mr. Karate IIWild Ambition's roster was underrated.
>>556606804Look, more AI*eye roll*
>Mash in people's face with plus EX moves constantly>Rev meter barely goes up>Spam bullshit Green Armor 3 times in a row>Rev meter barely goes up>Do 40 second 25-hit EX combo taking 70% of opponent's health>Rev meter barely goes up>Dare to hold back/block or even just use the games defensive-mechanics>Get punished with high meter-gain and damage-scalingI thought negros said this game rewards good defense? If anything it seems to reward playing like a gorilla. Especially if you play characters like Kain or Terry.
what's the point of keeping this general up with fan arts and ai images
>SNK has had this problem for a long time where they still think it's the 90s, they're relevant, and that people know who they are.Do you agree on his take, /neog/? In the video, the context was about COTW's marketing. I agree with it. SNK for some reason has really believed they're like Nintendo or some shit, and there's MILLIONS with nostalgia waiting to consoom the next SNK product with the way they have behaved over a decade now. Extends also to the people who keeps buying them. A good example is with the "NeoGeo Premium Selection". Them selling single games/roms for 20 a pop instead of in a collection. Even 1000x bigger and more popular companies like their competitor(not really in modern day) Capcom does collections.
>>556670979
Not a big fan of snk but i can't really understand this ignorance the fgc feigns about snk franchisesLike 20 years ago the only snk title i ever played was some kof i don't even remember the yearYet i knew about some characters from fatal fury and aofNever played any of the next character's games but i acknowledge them as fighting game icons: hibiki, bjenet, krauser, nakoruru, shiki, akari, genjuro
>>556671589Best figure ever
>>556672109>Fighting game icons>AkariChoose one
>>556672095Is it just me or is her head too small?
>>556672751Weird proportions, but I think that's because of the drawing design.Kula's head, for example, looks too big
>>556670185i don't really care to watch the video, but i'll respond to the greentextbecause i've been making that point for years now, but of course the only reason i've been making that point is because sylvie is not in kofxv and i'm just angry about that, and that's also the only reason i'm shitting on cotw and snk in generalbecause of sylvie not being in a gamelike i've even said like you just did, that they think they're nintendo and even made an acronym of snk standing for something like super nintendo knockoff, or maybe it was shitty instead of super, forget exactly whichthey are totally stupid and daft and the only purpose i have these days with them, is to shit on them when they do something stupidwhich won't be too far away from now
>>556673826https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/519710606/#520129661yeah it was super nintendo knockoff
>>556672929You're right, the problem is the drawing design. Hncl has better illustrations of Mai and Kula than the ones used for these figures, but at least Shermie looks promising.
>Watching TNS>Cringe Hokuto player>Constantly throws out rev blow because why not>Works 90% of the time because it's bullshit>Also uses another gay-ass braindead top-tier(Rock) because of course they do>Always immediately pivots to Hokuto again if he doesn't get an automatic gorilla into win with RockWhy are SNK players so soulless and gay? I can't think of any other playerbase with such boring golems who just pivots to whichever character is the most annoying/bullshit for an easy win. The two KOF15 EVOs being mirror-matches with the top 3/4 broken-ass characters really showed the state of their tainted souls.
>>556678439their lack of personality is modeled after a particular figurehead in the company
>>556670185He’s not wrong, this game realistically should’ve been marketed like it was a fresh new IP, any real nostalgia is just secondary, but instead they went about it like they snorted an entire line of cocaine and thought FF was a top 10 IP in the world
Would have flopped anyway
>>556672095>>556672267>>556672435Hmm, Mai looks better than Kula, hopefully they won't fuck up Ángel.
>>556672435>>556684913Man, how could they fumble Hungry Clicker's work like this?
>>556673826>the only reason i've been making that point is because sylvie is not in kofxv and i'm just angry about that, and that's also the only reason i'm shitting on cotw and snk in general because of sylvie not being in a gameShe's been DLC in KOF XV for years...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGffinSuRQ8
>>556195093Even ANDY agrees!
>>556678439That's why they cried about hard knockdowns when they couldn't handle 1 normal from 1 character in the game. That's why every top SNK pro got destroyed in SamSho at EVO 2019. They have no fundies, can't handle when you can't gimmick or ground roll out of losing neutral. Rev Blow suits the scrubs perfectly. That's why SNK are hesitant to nerf it. Same with the ex ex ex thing, which is pretty much every Kof since xiii.
>>556670185In the 90s, SNK:>had the coolest char designs>some of the best music>aaa presentation>aaa graphics>multiple franchises in multiple genres, all great looking>multiple fighting games all supported at once>each fighting game had its own distinct visual style with no reused assets between franchises>characters had a meanness and edge>fgs had character variety, like old people, fatties, adult midgets, giants, and the rest>did not rely on nostalgia for game content>apart from Real Bout, did not dumb their games down, and, like 90s Capcom, we're proud of that.Modern SNK are nothing like 90s SNK at all. They are much more like Eolith or Playmore.
>>556665712It's good at low and medium levels. As soon as you get good at the game, you realize how brainless it is at higher levels. SNK fucked up (again) by making Rev Blows and Rev Accels the core parts of the game. Now, it'll take even more work to reprogram it, which they won't do, because their sycophants need rushdown. Look at SF6, same thing. SNK copies them to their own demise. Good game overall, though.
Thoughts on the Masao tier list?
>>556672109No you're right a lot of the FGC loves pretending like SNK more unknown than they are. But SNK also loves pretending that they're known more they actually are as well.
the real core of it isn't the lack of knowledgeit's the lack of interest and lack of caringbut they won't admit that they don't care because not caring sounds more harsh and assholish than not knowingthankfully i don't mind looking like an asshole
>>556692589Andy rocking VIOLENT KEN colors.
>>556508313Young Geese and Mr. Karate II are in Maximum Impact 2 as well. And probably Regulation A, but I never played it.
>>556672751neck too long
Kinda tired of seeing Mai everywhere man. Just from a brand standpoint, she's annoying
>>556508313when you structure it like that, Dominated Mind really is the cuckshed for all the lesser characters
>>556722631I'm fed up with her too, but there's nothing we can do. The people at SNK are too lazy and stupid to make any use of any of their other characters.
>>556722631all killer no filler!cut the fat to wear a hat
>/sfg/ bot
>>556672109Everybody in 90s arcades knew about fatal fury and kof. Some people used to get the two mixed up sometimes, but they were 100% known to all fg players as big games. And every top guy who played Capcom games played SNK ones, and vice versa. The modern FGC is not a FGC. It is corrupt as hell. That's why so much backwards shit happens and people can't understand why. There are ulterior motives behind a lot of shit, dressed up as helping the 'community'.
Reminder that the ESL(the one who makes wrestling references and weird analogies) that spends his time hating is literally obsessed. That dude is in any and every topic involving SNK even slightly. He's always there to give his spicy takedowns of them. Doesn't matter what board, nor the topic. I swear it's like he has an extension installed that detects whenever the letters "SNK" are said/typed in succession, or anything relating to its properties. It is not normal for someone to obsessed over a company they hate this much. Actual mental-illness. The only reasonable explanation I can give is that someone at SNK raped said ESL's family-member or something.
>>556734985Keyword is the 90s. SNK has done a terrible job living up to their legacy and releasing good products afterwards. Does it justify the FGCucks being hypocrites? No but it's sort of easy to punch down on an entity like SNK because of it.
As shitty as /neog/ can be, it's the only place that actually talks in depth about the gameplay. Everywhere else, they're talking about the shallowest shit, gameplay wise.
>>556736961Oh, don't get me wrong, modern SNK are retarded. I agree.
>>556704797It goes against what we usually see until now: Tizoc and Ken being top tiers.And there are more decent characters than what we've seen in the top 8s so far. I hope this is true and we see more variety.
Be careful of saying stuff like this before you trigger the real schizo who thinks everyone who doesn't dicksuck snk is the same person
>>556276395Where's Laocorn?
>>556746220Who in their right mind prefers SNK but seriously
there's like 4 or 5 other guys that trained under this style but none of them do this type of shit
>>556678439Overwatch is like that, it’s due to lack of balance, and characters being too overtuned they play the same or achieve the same results no matter their kit, so playing the ones with the least effort is more rewarding.
>>556764193We can longer have characters like this because the braindead latinx tourists want big titty waifus who all look the same
>>556772575>tourists wantand oda is not delivering anything but a complete sausage pack
>>556774278Snk is clearly not aware of the current times at all, they’re in a bubble. It makes me wonder are they not hiring young people at all? Is there no one to tell them don’t do that? Or is it Japanese work culture where everyone is a yes man
Geese is cool and all, but Season 2 really starts with Mary for me. That being because Mary is a hot female character which is always nice, and because everything from her onward like Krauser who we haven't seen in decades, and KenGODro are way more interesting than Geese and Kim. Plus, we've already seen Geese a ton already. I mean Mary too, but she's a hot female character(which COTW could use more of desu) as stated before, so she gets a pass.
>>556776010Kim Jae Hoon was really a waste of time
>>556776664No real bigger waste of time than the collabs and S1. They should've pushed the SF shit back a Season. Getting it in over Jae was a brainlet move, especially making him paid and not Ken/Chun-LiHonestly outside of Kenshiro, none of S2 has given the impression of this being something you should pay for. It really should all be base game, or at least free like they bundle it for new players
>>556740184>Everywhere else, they're talking about the shallowest shitactually stuff like fgg is just talking about people who have at some point thought about video games
If the NFL wanted the Hispanic audience more than playing regaeton crap, they just had to do something simpler.
>>556728481Balrog/M.Bison the boxer isn't in SF6 though.
>Minister of Investment if Saudi Arabia>Restructuring of the Public Investment Fund with bold and unconventional decisions.>2030 vision of will be reevaluated and a new strategy will be implemented It’s over for snk
as long as we get to enjoy our promised photorealistic akari its going to be fine
Don't let Oda watch the superbowl show.
>>556728481This is what happens when Andy is gay
>>556834760representing oda's true feelings
Did they fix Jae Hoon's color edit hair glitch yet?
No birb figure?
I honestly forgot Geese is even supposed to drop this month
>>556508313Was Michael a mistake?
rip
>>556856882I feel like fighting games as a genre is finally collapsing
>>556856882This game has been an even bigger failure than cotw yet the entire fgc scene completely ignored all its problems and shilled it while shitting on snk. The agenda is real.
>>556856882COTW will survive 2XK0.
>>556857821most people don't like fighting games
friends, mk1 is in a really good deal right now on steam, I bought it, probably never gonna play it, but the elder god bundle is too good if you have the old ones
>>556860676at this point I just don't give a shit about the fgc anymore, as long as I can get in the game and find people to play matches I'm happy, I genuinely hope cotw can have a 300 player avg on steam for a long time because it's more fun to play than the other fighting games right now
>>556867153 (me)the price is too good, not the games, the games are bad
2XSHIT dies right after COTW wins the ALGERIA award FWUUUUUUUARK
>2xko didn't win fighting game of the year>diesgeoff saved us
>immediately after Marvel Tokon is now confirmed to require a PS account on STEAM>rendering the game unavailable for many regions>also 20 characters for a 4v4 gameLMAOdeath to the FGC.
meanwhile in Sound Beach...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZAPmWJt6ao
>Watch basedjam to see him talk about the state of 2XShito>COTW is brought up a brief moment>Chat talks of Saudis, muh Ronaldo, calling SNK an AI-slop company, saying how the game is not for them, etceteraAnd that's coming from a more "hardcore" audience that's more into Fighting Games. It's never been more over for SNK. The huge reputational-damage they caused themselves with COTW will never fade unless they make the perfect Fighting Game next game. 10 out of 10 in almost every field.
>>556885126streamcucks don't play videogames neither does sajam, their impact is zero, I do love laughing his precious baby 2xko failing miserably tho
just admit cotw was the biggest flop evermisk's lost money that was spent in failed marketing and a crappy game with some big ass AAA budget that ended up looking like a ps3 game is at least 10 times bigger than the whole 2xko projectinstead of releasing barebones after stupidly cancelling kof during its peak they should have worked on a proper new season for xvfuck you oda
>>556860676yeah because everyone is out to get cotw oh nos paranoia paranoia everybody's coming to get snk
>>556764193>>556772575>>556776664Tung would be a way better adition than another rushdown slop that is Jae. Really hope Geese is not the same as 70% of the roster and Mary can also shine since Jenet is so shit in this game.
>>556704797>>556740470I don't think Jae is that bad. Just middle of the bunch. Certainly better than Jenet. I would put Jenet and Joe as the worst right now. I don't know what makes Preecha so good for him either and I think Chun-li might be a sleeper top tier. Ken is decent but neither Tizoc or him are top tier material. I think that will go to Rock, Marco and Billy.
hey i think it would be great if dong's electricity made him function like tager
i heard the guys who made elden ring conspired to sabotage snk's totally genuine ability to get people interested in snk games
>>556902404>rushdown slopThey'd have to change the core of the game to change that. Everything from projectile pushback (short) to jump arcs (small) has been purposefully tweaked to accommodate rushdown.
>>556803820>>556878909Terry & Mai mentioned in a SF6 videohttps://youtu.be/-JjQmXALYsc?t=2011
>>556882549Good stuff. Needful.Imagine if the game TEACHES you how to play. We don't need easier combos nor modern controls. We need (interactive) tutorials.
The absolute state of Tarma
FIGHT
>>556934564the absolute state of ikari getting swallowed by metal slug
>>556929306I'm honest impressed how fighting games are so shit at teaching their basic stuff. Very few even try to not make a chore to learn the game. I like Granblue having many tips and character tutorials in training mode but it could much better.COTW has the option to go to the tutorial from training mode but it's the same boring mode.
100%
>>556937078it's unfortunately trueit's a shame what happened to samurai shodown tho, snk really likes to walk backwards as if they were after taking a couple steps forward
Damn
Remind me, didn’t SNK say something about Krauser’s animated trailer getting more positive feedback than expected?
>>556937078Yes
>>556945885She is so hot
>>556937078THIS
>>556736430You mean theone that types likethis?Yeah that negro is something else. Imagine spending all your time seething about a company, roaming its threads just to make epic snark comments, and go on about how it's so bad. It also happens in a lot of threads for tons of other franchises/companies too. Like Zelda, Final Fantasy, etcetera. This is a site for the mentally-ill and complete losers though, so said behavior isn't that surprising. What is surprising is that SNK for some reason has someone like that. I would expect it for bigger companies. Not for one like SNK that's small/niche.
>>556937078SamSho would've been my favorite game if they removed one button Issens and didn't nerf weapon flips to land right next to you every time.
>Reminder that the ESL>snk threadyou can always hibernate in your discord with your passive aggressive female behavior, but you can't help but acknowledge my existence
btw snk AAA company in 2033
Very nice face sculpt
>>556958626Kof16 is looking perfect ha ha....... ha......
I wonder if these figures are anatomically correct
>>556966346Looks pretty good (on promotional pics). Were there any other released yet to check if the quality stands?
>>556937078>>556953173I don't mind WFT that much. It was funny on release but I understand the change. But yeah, Issen being like a truck going lightspeed is a downer. I wish it had rolls at least. Movement feels a bit limited but yeah, by far their best product since they ditched the Playmore name.
>>556973015A Mai, released last yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHVeYicsrM4
>>556937078game can't even get 20 players online, these people lie shamelessly, the entire fgc community is like this, no one plays the games, they just post about them
>>556929306I've found a few good channels that have been making tiny tutorials like that one and it's honestly very helpfulhttps://www.youtube.com/@darkmughal1/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/@Roubichl9tal/videosthere are some japanese ones too but I didn't save them
>>556975323No cross-platform and late steam port.
>>556975323>game can't even get 20 players onlineall killer no filler
New Mai
>>556983204...from Street Fighter 6
>>556983204>>556974681>>556670979>>556672095>>556677728How many Mai are released per year?
Chun-li from Fatal Fury
Now's the perfect time to tease the Geese.
>>556974681Oh, thanks anon. I don't know how to say this but I think her tits are too big there. Leona looks more "on model" at least. That size for Mai would be better for Shermie or Lien.
Yuri from Capcom vs SNK
>>556975851Good. Thanks anon since I mostly find stuff in pt-br or just replay videos of high rank/pros. It just bothers me I still need to know how to deal with most of the Revblows. Hate not knowing what to do to punish some that go up in the air like Rock, Mai and Jenet. Specially Rock. He's annoying to fight now t. Hotaru main
>>556255764I only hear negative things about both SF6 and T8 despite its huge numbers and i barely come here.
>>557013984one would think you'd realize that talk is cheap and that people still play the games that they claim they don't likepeople come to /v/ to talk shit about vidyai come here to talk shit about snkyou would think you'd have taken away something from all this
>>556472553You're gayer than Andy.
>>556633763>Videos you can hear
>>556670185Here's the thing, SNK COULD'VE gotten that relevancy of being a big name...if ONLY they properly coasted from Terry's appearance in Smash Bros, but they took nearly 2 god damn years to fix KoF 15 so most players didn't give a fuck about COTW or had no hopes for it.
>>557014587if not liking manfaced jenet makes me gay then sign me up for the homo newsletter
>>557015375What's manly about the fatty round face?
>>556934564I feel like Fio took his place as the second go-to Metal Slug rep after Marco in everything. Remember neither he nor Eri were playable in 4.
>>557007918rev blow is all about reaction time or just block, it is mostly a retarded minigame of "can you react fast enough"
>>556670185For the love of god I wanna know what this number was
>cotw fails>ceo step down>game gets updates every month>2xko fails>most of the devs get axed>it'll be dead in 3 monthswe have it so good you have no idea
the fgc is a fraud, no one plays fighting games no one likes fighting gamesit's the same situation with the RTS genre and the arena shooter genreit doesn't have a player base, it has spectators that want to watch the game being played and post about the gamearena shooters got quake champions, it's not the perfect game but it's new and decent, no one plays it, yet the boomers still pretend it's a neglected genrerts crowd got stormgate, they couldn't care less, game is totally dead, all they want to do is watch gookclick on youtube while stuffing their faces and then pass out drunkthe fgc is the exact same thing, old boomers pretending to be 1337 h3rdc0r3 gamers playing the hardest games possible, in reality no one plays the games, they just post about it and talk about it and watch chinger changer ninja danger who also don't play the games just talks about themall in all cotw was a success, why I say this? because every other game would've been dead by now and every new fighting game will also die within 3 months like 2xko because there is no one to play themamerimutts will play mortal kkkombat because of the IP, japanese people will play mortal kombat for yellow people (street fighter) because of the IP, and europakis will play tekken for god knows what reasonall new games will fail miserably, tokon, vf6, 2xko, there is NO AUDIENCE for those games
>>556670185Before I started playing fgs (not counting smash), around 2021-2022, I literally didn't know what SNK, FF, or even KOF were. Keep in mind that I generally tried to catch Evo top 8 since like 2016-7. Mai and I guess Terry were recognizable characters, but I didn't know/care about them aside from that.
>Hi /neog/!
Dude is in the Epstein files
>>556934615>>556990072>>557028404>>557031692Chunners to arrest Epstein
Revive KOF15!
>>557019973To make him laugh like that, it was probably an unrealistic number, like 50 to 100 million copies. The Prince may like games, but he doesn't understand low, realistic numbers. Not his fault, I mean, he's always lived among hundreds of millions to billions. So, if it were 10 million, from a normal point of view, it would still be a lot, but not a reason to "laugh out loud" (since Kekken 7 did that). But if those 10 million are in fact the real number, then I bet this guy is one of the schizos here.
>>557040203This is the most realistic outcome given what just happened to 2XKO. There's no fucking way those suits would set their sights low on 10M. Most iconic brand games sell that much, it's usually slop like ball or gun game that hit big numbers. Maybe the occasional Nintendo game, but even the biggest multimedia franchise Pokemon barely hits the 20 mark
>>557020135>game gets updates every monthif the updates weren't amateur grade recycling it'd mean something actually remarkablethat's like being impressed they kept all the employees at mcdonalds, while a restaurant that at least tries to have decent non-processed food but takes longer to prepare than is actually worth the wait, for not so high portions at that, and thus declines in business, has to cut staff
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nWhwrETHUjYWell, /neog/?
>>557022542That says more about you though. You should've at least heard of KOF
>>557047689he lives in usa, not mexico
>>557047726If he was into fighting games enough to watch EVO then he should've known it.
>>557048347of all the years evo has existed only a fraction of them have featured a kof as a main event game and only three games in the series have been that
>>557049417If you care to enough to keep up with EVO you're clearly familiar with the genre to know it whether it's featured or not.
>>557052508No nigger, KOF had only been featured 4 times out of the decade before KOFXV came out. 3 were XIII and one was XIV. All of these instances were before the Terry inclusion in Smash. Keep in mind this is the same EVO that cultivated an FGC that says "If Street Fighter dies, fighting games die" during the fucking V era. EVO was the SF, Tekken, MK/Injustice and occasional ArcSys showcase. There was NO focus on KOF until XV, and SNK killed any possible momentum for that game permanently with focusing all in on CotW
>>557053885It doesn't matter.Person who watches EVO = Person who's online enough in the FGC community to have seen it before. You're missing the point.
>>556292019Name of the artist?
>>557052508>If you care to enough to keep up with EVOthere were plenty of smash guys who bothered with evo who still who'd terry when he was revealed for ultimate, and smash had been at evo way before then, and terry is apparently the american poster boy for kof despite being a fatal fury character
>>557052508>>557047689>>557048347>>557060007You, like a lot of the FGC, simply don't understand how little the average casual knows about and interacts with fighting games. Plenty of casuals know about evo moment 37 and will watch the final day (especially when smash was still around). That doesn't mean they're a part of the FGC or know or care enough to remember every title that's there. I'd heard of KOF before (SNK and FF too), but that's not the same thing as knowing what they are (beyond being retro video game titles). KOF14 was the only KOF title to appear from 2016-2021, it only appeared once, and it had nearly half the entrants of the 2nd least entered title, BBCF. Expecting a casual who watches evo once a year to be intimately familiar with every legacy fighting game franchise (especially ones that are 20 years past their prime) is the sort of delusion that leads to marketing failures like CotW and 2XKO.
Finally...cotw has a friend.
>>557068941They're in a bubble.I grew up in midwest USA. After three decades of playing almost every game genre on almost every console and spent time in arcades when they were still relevant, but had absolutely no clue who SNK were until getting into fighting games in the last few years. And even then, if I had just stuck to the major franchises like SF, Tekken, MK, or Smash I'd kind of know SNKs name casually but almost nothing beyond that.SNK has very little relevance within the genre that defines them and pretty much doesn't exist in the larger gaming scene. It's kind of impressive actually.
>>557047726>>557022542>>557049417Nah, it says about him. I was never into Melty, French Bread games or Type Moon stuff and I know about them, Neco Arc and other superficial stuff.If you keep up with EVO you will know about the side tournaments and the genre in general. Unless you're being ignorant.
>>557077183>The fighting game autist recognizes niche fighting game characters a normal fucking person doesn't
>>557079356No "normal person" keeps up with EVO every year you moron.
>>557077183Whatever helps you cope. Someone in the FGC knowing about Melty (probably the least obscure of the smaller anime fighters pre-MBTL) is not comparable to casual/pre-Terry smashies knowing anything of substance about SNK. Neco Arc is almost certainly more recognizable to the average person than any SNK character (even Mai and Terry) because of how much she's been memed over the years (remember pilk?). If you're a weeb, Fate is also a huge IP that was everywhere for a decade+ thanks to its anime and gacha (and speaking from experience as a big Type Moonfag, plenty of casual Fate fans/gachacoomers don't actually know what TM, Melty, or Tsukihime are). The comparison only highlights your own lack of perspective. What do you think "keeping up" with Evo entails exactly? Why would you expect someone who watches one tourney a year and only cares about catching the finals to have every year's side game roster engraved in their heart?
>>557079712You're the one coping thinking meme cat is anywhere near as known as Mai. Like the other anon who lives in a bubble saying others live in one, think a bit outside of yours.
>>557079674Here's where you're at>Normal people>Normal people who know what EVO is>People who pay attention to EVO for the announcements and reveals>People who pay attention to the main stage games>People who pay attention to side tourneys>>>People who actually KNOW about the games in the side tournies<<<>People who actually play at EVO>>557080210He's not wrong but at the same time Mai IS outside the bubble, even pre-Street Fighter. Had someone once tell me that Mai, Nakoruru and Iroha might as well have been Polygon Love mascots to themThe main problem isn't just looking outside of the bubble, it's the fact SNK has never tried to even exist outside of the bubble to begin with. ArcSys got big off of coasting off Capcom's successes and failures + licensed games. The latter got more attention on their work than SNK's desperate attempts to do the same by shoving Saudi shit into their big come back game (and not their actual big crossover IP for some fucking reason)
>>557019639Yeah, it's more like how to punish a revblow. The "grounded" ones like Hotaru and Terry I have no problems to either low dodge and cancel into another move/super or just cancel a low A into some invincible super. But those "aerial" ones like Rock, Hokutomaru, Jenet and such at most I low dodge and I'm at the risk of just missing my super if I cancel with it so I just leave it be. Or just block and nothing happened but the other person is safe. I just wish we could at least JD Revblow so it would be easier to punish and not just retarded to do. If anything, some characters have pretty shitty Revblows while others have great ones. And I think Jenet was nerfed on that, right?
>>557080210I'm gonna choose to believe that you're just pretending to be retarded in order to bait (You)s. In which case, good job.>>557080558>Mai IS outside the bubbleSure, but that's not enough to make SNK a distinctive entity in the mind of your average normie. At best she just gets grouped together with other classic FG/arcade era fap material like Chun, Kasumi, and Morrigan. Pre-SF6, it's unironically quite possible that the most well-known piece of media she's appeared in was Yuri & Friends, which requires zero understanding of what SNK, FF, or KOF are to consume.Arcsys also has presentation and continuity that SNK can only dream of, so I don't think the comparison is all that apt. Even if they landed a huge IP, I think there would still be a pretty limited ceiling to their possible success.
>>557084078Just say presentation, ArcSys is just as fucking bad at continuity. The shit Xrd did to the OG GG characters is honestly just as bad as what Strive did to a lot of the Xrd characters, let alone the OGs. ArcSys just gets away with it because their games genuinely look good
>>557084078>it's unironically quite possible that the most well-known piece of media she's appeared in was Yuri & FriendsYou seem to care more about sounding right but you're failing miserably even at that.
I'm convinced that cotw will win long term, all new fighting games will fail like 2xko and cotw will slowly grow as people get desilusioned by their failure and can't stand sf6 anymorewe will get 12 new characters in 12 months and that is pretty cool, it's gonna be huge for the game, but if they do 12 new characters or at least 6 in 2027 I think the game will age magnifically
>>557089924You can't polish a turd, man. They tried that with SFV and the game doesn't get any fucking attention anymore because no matter how hard they tried to fix it, the core was fundamentally broken. CotW didn't have staying power when it came out, it's going to remain a niche until those servers shut down and it becomes unplayable because nobody's going to want to go to your house to play City of the fucking WolvesBut that's not saying other fighting games aren't fucked either, come 10 years nobody's going to be playing shit like Strive anymore unless that V2 REALLY redeems it. SF6 is probably still going to be monetized by then
>>557090175when are you going to kill yourself? you can't keep doing this every day of your life without at least attempting it, please succeed
>>557084679That's not what I mean by continuity. Gameplay is a small part of it, but it's more about staying consistent in your niche and growing over time in terms of relevance, human capital, etc. If you do it well, that leads to things like having top of the line presentation. I'm not gonna pretend to be some sort of industry expert, but SNK obviously has nowhere near the same level of continuity, and it shows.It's natural for a new fighting game in a series with a niche, but dedicated fanbase to be controversial, especially if you're trying to attract new fans. It sucks when older fans get alienated, but that's just how it is. And it's not like Arcsys completely kicked their old fans to the curb. Retroactively adding rollback to their old games for free is something I don't think you'd ever see from the likes of Capcom, Bamco, or SNK, especially rollback that doesn't suck ass. Imagine being a diehard fan of SF4 in the current year. >>557084950I know it hurts, but you'll feel better once you accept the truth.
>>557090460It's not even the same person. I guess it's you who anon was talking about earlier >>556746220
>>557090460If your go-to defense for CotW is "kill yourself" then maybe the game isn't as alive as you think it is. This is coming from someone who was actually looking forward to the game, it's a piece of shit. Plain and simple. SNK can fuck off with their new fighters if they think that was an adequate replacement for KOFV>>557090525ArcSys sort of feels more like a Ship of Theseus fanbase than one that has had consistency since the 2010s. Like I can't imagine ChronoPhantasma fans are the ones playing Strive right now. I feel like ArcSys makes for a good "second place" developer because their output is more consistent than the fans are. They actually put out a lot of games in the 2010s which earned them more respect than SNK "we made 3 games and two are shit and one isn't KOF in the entire 2010s"But there is some effort put into preserving the old games which is extremely commendable. There's still some games I wish were accessible (like a real version of GGX, even if it's still kusoge) but if you want to PLAY the games, you can. More than can be said about current SNK
>>557061478 Capcom
Let's goooooo
>>557098609A forum? In 2026?
>>557095397REally funny
>>556966346>>556974681>snk teasing photorealismakaribros... it's happening
>>557090175>You can't polish a turd, man.But it is a good game. Maybe it should have been made ridiculously easy like SF6 or ridiculously casino-like like Tekken 6 if they wanted a big audience.
>>557098609>i will not play fatal fury because it has a sex pest in it>takes money to play yakuza kiwami 3 that also has a sex pest in it
>>557117412he said nigger on stream he has no morals
>>557077183you just have this airhead attitude that people are out to get snk or to pretend snk doesn't exist and they're totally avoiding snk on purpose because this or that reasonthat's so tinfoil hatted
>>557098609fucking christ it's a simple business strategy that snk has no balls to pull and it's called stop rubbing elbows with a bitch ass who pulls that shit just because your shit marketing guy maxx clark has a fetish for mingling with guys like him and stop feeling threatened by telling maximilian to fuck off if he wants freebies because he isn't helping snk pull any numbersbut it's snk and they have been castrated so they'll still do what they do regardless of whatever advice i'd give either to them or to kk to relay to them or emails or hilary's emails or yandev's emails
>>556180431
>>556678439It's what the other anons said. SNK's games since KOF 13 not Samsho have had overtuned characters, and mechanics that lead to a chunk of the roster in the games playing the same. There's pretty much no reason not to just use whatever characters are Top 3/4, the easiest to play, while using said overtuned mechanics the best. Combine that with SNK players being soulless as you've stated, and you will just see massive tier-whoring like never before. It's why despite majority of the roster being viable in COTW now, most of the players just pivoted to whoever are the new Top 3/4. And if the tournaments I've been watching since the update are any indication, said new Top 3 to dominate every Top 8 are Hoku(we will never be rid of this annoying cunt character) since he's still braindead/overtuned despite all the nerfs, Rock because of his buffs and easy-as-fuck gameplay, and Billy again since Kain was nuked. Kain isn't even bad now or anything, just not complete bullshit like before, but that's enough for the soulless because why keep playing him instead of moving on to whoever else's on-top to unga with now.
>Make game "hard">People just play the easiest charactersWhat is this phenomenon?
>>557132505
>page 10BRAVO ODA
No Snk AAA trailer? It's over...
>>557141101>DekuAnd just like that my interest evaporated immediately
SNK's FF:CotW is doing ok?
Why KEN instead of RYU?
>>557132505Because like your quote marks implied, it isn't actually hard. Rushdown only meta = shallow meta, where it's much easier to filter for top tiers, just like Kof for the last 26 years.
>>5571133872xko's flop has destroyed the 'it just needs to be easier' meme invented by people like Max.
>>557089924It could, and it says a lot that it beat 2xko, but cotw won't grow if snk keep dumbing down the meta with each patch. They did it with SamSho as well (their other potentially big 1v1 game) so I'm not surprised in the slightest. Forget the marketing, they simply do not understand what makes moment to moment fg gameplay interesting. That's one thing the Japanese boomers in the 90s understood better than anybody, without needing online feedback or community leaders or influencers. You need gameplay variety in your game. Some people who kill you from afar, some who rush you down. Some who poison you slowly, some who just grab you. Some who are weak and fast. Some who are tanks.Basic, basic stuff here. But no, they wanna copy modern Capcom. They wanna copy nrs. They wanna listen to max dood. Then people get bored of their game where 90% have the exact same inputs and exact same game plan. Come on now.
>>557080893Why do you think they 1 made Rev Blow unpunishible, and 2 refuse to nerf it? People said it was trash on day 1. On the other hand, a certain influencer who doesn't even play snk games, told them privately that the Hidden Gear inputs were too hard, and they homogenized them within one month.
>>557141316>tfw they add the japanese capeshit slop in the capeshit slop game
Unpopular opinion: Haohmaru and Darli must had a casual sex together
>>557145635Capcom vs SNK reference
>>557072964Metal slug was pretty well known, but instead they thought fatal fury was the ip that warranted wwe advertising lol
>>557147523Oh yeah, they all had secret and different inputs right? I'm already not a fan of all the supers having the same inputs back in MOTW and now it's the same in the sequel including the new ones.I hate it how they did that in KOFXV with Climax moves removing completely the pretzel input. They also changed Vice's super as well right?I don't get why Justin Wong and others praise KOFXV so much. I do play with friends from time to time but honestly, I have more fun in 2002UM or '98 no matter how broken those are.
geese should be here in 10 days, right? for those who bought the battle pass
steam requirements are so weird, it asks for 60gb but the game is 27gb, maybe they planned for a world tour meme mode but didn't ship it
>>557162741it was stupid to do it that way just to kneejerk to some faggot streamer, but it's not really the core issue driving people away from playing their gamesit's just that the gesture speaks volumes on snk's urge to try and kiss the asses of some streamer they think is some authority, and it's their own fault for sniffing his farts instead of growing a spine, as if snk stands for shinjiikari nerdy kneeler
>>557141101>Billy HatcherWhere's my goat Alex Kidd?I loved him in all star racing!
>>557173921Yeah, Revblow and mostly, the lack of playstyles pulls the game down. I still thing this is a "better SF6" but the direct comparisons don't help since everybody plays SF6 because it's the most popular. Honestly, making Overheat even more like Burnout by removing the invincible reversals is a detriment.I really hope Geese, Mary and Krauser change that.At least before with Hokutomaru, Billy, Kain and Hotaru, we had different kinds of characters being top tiers but now it looks like it'll be a rushdownfest.https://x.com/Alioune85/status/2021520677711601671
>>557175330>KainJesus what did SNK do to him?
>>557175330>I still thing this is a "better SF6" but the direct comparisons don't help since everybody plays SF6 because it's the most popular.which is also another thing, don't compete with a bigger more popular brand on their turf, unless you for sure can outdo them in every fashion and make them look bad while doing sowhich is why i wish they emphasized the lane gameplay that's there, it's just one stage STILLas far as gameplay mechanics, ronaldo is still the most unique one in the game
>>557175596Tons of nerfs on his combo routes but the biggest one was the hard knockdown removal on EX moves almost killing all of his setups. He's not that bad as many are saying (certainly a lot better than Jenet and Joe) but everyone will just drop him because there are better characters now. Hotaru got nerfed but she still has many tools. Just not the best character anymore for example. I would argue that Chun-li is a "better Hotaru" now.>>557176170>which is why i wish they emphasized the lane gameplay that's there, it's just one stage STILLYeah, it feels like they want to do new/different stuff but are afraid to push for it. Like the inputs for hidden gear.And yeah, as much flak CR7 and Salvatore get for their inclusions at least they're different enough from the rest of the roster and certainly add more to the game than Jae Hoon.
So, any news about Kenshiro?
>>557177883no, but if he doesn't have hokuto zankai ken with timer it'll be ruined
Why is there no Kof 95 UM with the 94 american team in it?Where is the XI steam port?
>>557175330>lack of playstylesyup, we need 2 zoners 1 more grappler, 1 boxer at least, but they keep making the same shotoish characters
>>55717933098 exists who the fuck is asking for American Sports Team in 95? The second point is a better question, it's the least accessible KOF despite having the most interesting roster and being the most important part of the Ash Saga
>>557179330>>557181174They're releasing old games on emulators and XI was released on a SEGA board (Atomiswave) and for PS2. It's fine releasing the ones on neogeo board because they own it but for KOFXI, Samsho6, NGBC and Neowave it's more complicated. I doubt they still have the source code to port it and, if they still have it, they probably don't have anyone there that understand the engine/language used in the company.I think at most they can release them again for PS5 as a "classic" title like Bamco just released Tekken 3 and SCIII but no news about them on PC.Or just hope for a miracle partnership with SEGA but you won't get Mai or any of the other NGBC characters.
>>557181174>98 existsIt doesn't play the same as 95>Who is askingMe, i'm asking
Where's howling blood UM?
Where's the steam port of Fatal Fury special with Ryo unlocked from the get go?
fatal fury is the only enjoyable fighting game out there, despite it's flaws, it'll age very well
>>557187502>>557179330KOF95UMWell we had KOF94 Rebout and it was a mess.Cool OP tho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTmOYrwm-RI
>>557188172That existed?
>>557195413No, i'm asking for it to exist.
>>557188748They were more fun because we were kidsI still love fighting games but I'm tired of people irl getting mad when they lose
>>557179330I believe SNK can't re-release XI because they lost its source code.
>>557205428I keep hearing this all the time but no one ever backs it up
Geese trailer tonight!!!!!!
>>557206225why
double shitpooken
>>557206325Playstation event
>>557208105they announced a new doa in it, I am surprised, I dont think there's an audience for it but more games the better
>>557200076>because we were kids>Samsho (2019)I fucking wish...
Bros, it's looking like Arcsys is going to release another beloved million-seller title while SNK drowns in the trenches....
>>557213812>>557090460
Saudi money but can't even put their trailers in state of plays
>>557214253I'm sorry anon, but it's true. And all of the Fighting Games announced in the State of Play will be 100x more successful than anything SNK has put out since coming back just for looking great visually, and being appealing products which are things SNK seemingly just can't achieve no matter what. They won't be pulling SF6 numbers, but still great ones.
>>557214785yeah, just like 2xko, they all will thrive
Wolfpack...think we can handle WWE 2K25?
>>557217010what the hell is dice
>>5572148802xShitto was tag-slop. Too much for casuals. They already barely can handle playing just 1 character in a Fighting Game. It also had zero content outside of VS fighting. Casuals don't care to just play online VS. World Tour and the Battle Hub shit in SF6 was/is super popular, despite how you and most non-casuals may personally feel about them. As long as Tokon and DOA 7 have great visuals/presentation while having substantial content, they'll be successes. Tokon will also have the Marvel IP behind it to help, while DOA has coomers(which there are a TON of these days).
King of Fighters 16 announcement this year.
>>557217349Idk maybe another algerian award show awooo
>>557217358Tokon plays like garbage so far not even shills like Max could defend it. IP didn't help 2xko or HxH either despite DBFZ being super popular.
>>557217928Not before.....art of fighting....4.....
>>557217358tokon is also tag slop, cocksucker
DOA7 will succeed but none of the other upcoming FOMO will. I don't even see the point to a new VF now that DOA is back
>>557220128>Tokon plays like garbageSo does SF6 and that's the most popular Fighting Game eclipsing 98% of the rest of the genre. Tekken 8 still has more players than the rest of the genre not Street Fighter too despite all the negativity around it. IP does matter, and those two are classic, popular franchises with legacy/nostalgia tied to them.>>557220480You can play just 1 character with assists though. So not really tag-slop.
>>557162741>They also changed Vice's super as well right?One of the most satisfying supers to pull off, and they simplified it. That's why 8 didn't buy that DLC, even though their models were based.
Lmao is snk really releasing a new Art of fighting in this environment with so many competing franchises. It won't even have anything to stand out with like it did in the past
>>557224126it's in 2027 or 2028, I don't think anyone will care about it since it'll be fatal fury again with few different characters, same gameplay, the 350 avg will remain on cotw most likely
I'll guess the schedule2026: fatal fury dlcs2027: more fatal fury dlcs or aof2028: aof dlcs or aof29:new samsho30:samsho dlcs31:kof16 with tons of reused assets from those previous gamesI think what they are doing relaunching all those games is building an inventory of assets to reuse in a big new kof in the future
>>557224547It'll be lower. AOF characters are way less interesting
>>557224991speaking personally I have no interest in it unless the gameplay is so much better than fatal fury which I don't think they can even do, but again 2 years from now is a long time
>>557210165how did we go from this piece of gooning art to the ps2 graphx of kof and cotw?when i played samsho 2019 for the first time i thought: holy hell shit is just going to get better and better from now on... and then they delivered the king of play doh and clay of the woe.....
Didn't we say the new AoF would be "yakuza genre" game?
>>557226951no, it was a samsho rpg thing
>>557226773SamSho is also playdough, it's just they actually coated the game with good textures and lighting. But the problem is those graphics were part of the reason they struggled getting Rollback into SamSho in the first place. I think KOFXV they just rushed the game to get it out so they could get to CotW, while CotW really doesn't have any excuses. KOFXV got really good character models at the end of development with Mature and Vice but launch roster was very half-assed beyond some characters like Shermles
You know what bothers me about COTW?The fact that it seems like SNK tried to one up capcom by looking at the people complaining about SF6 having no SF3 reps at launch so they brought back nearly everyone from MOTW but forgot to actually make them all plot relevant to the story in a meaningful way.Like, what was the point of bring Brian back and have him arresting Freeman if Freeman isn't even playable for you to have a final showdown against him?What is the point of bringing Dong and have all that hype about him taking things more seriously if his entire plot is just about him potentially dating Preecha?The Jin bros have more plot relevancy than Tizoc and THEY ARE NOT PLAYABLE.
>>557233852those are all very petty complaints
>>557235504>Game that larps about having a legendary story and concluding the cliffhanger from the last Fatal Fury>"Bro being upset about the story is petty"Why the fuck make Fatal Fury? Just make more KOF if they don't give a fuck about the story. The game doesn't even PLAY like classic Fatal Fury if you actually want to be a pedantic asshole
>>557236912they will add freeman's hot sisterfreeman is dead
>>557244845Do you seriously trust the Preecha team to design a "hot girl"?
how can you big faggots feel attracted to muscular womenthose are practically men
Should've started off with Kenshiro
It's so beautiful watching high-level play with mostly short combos, frequent JDGCs, and the occasional HDGC. Meanwhile, we're all stuck playing at low-level where no one blocks or GCs and everyone can unleash their longest combos all the time without consequence. We're not playing the same game, LMAO.
Rip, AOFlop4 ;_;
>>557228490>I think KOFXV they just rushed the game>6 years development time>mostly recycled assets>most have no new moves>fewer modes than previous game>smaller, recycled roster>rushedWe have to shill it as rushed or it means SNK fucked up
>>557224126This. Cutting edge graphics made aof stand out in the past. There's no way they make it the best looking on the current market.
>>557190908>it'll age very well...until they make it worse with patches, which has already started, btw. SNK's past time is fixing 1 thing by ruining 2 others. In this case, nerfing top tiers, but buffing rush down mechanics for everyone else in already rush down game.
>>557180427Playstyles won't matter if they don't change the mechanics and flow. Check for yourself. Look at back jump distances. They keep you magnetised your opponent. Same with back dashes. Same with projectile pushback. Put a pure zoner, not a frankenstein zoner, in that meta, and they will be low tier and next to useless. They have designed the game to keep you stuck to the other guy.
>>5572179282029 (35th anniversary)
>>557186232>speaking englishEwwwwwwwwwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz8RfgSDXGQHow to switch to JP audio?
Nameless bros....
>>557267072Just go to the audio options.>>557275126I'm sill mad a robot made to a team of mutants when tons of others would be a much better choice than this. I have a fear that the roster of this game + 4 DLC a year is going to be awful.
>>557277038I'm expecting the entirety of the Guardians of the Galaxy and no more X-Men if ArcSys is set on building the roster on set teams.Base roster will likely be awful, and we'll have to wait for DLC to fix that, but I hope I'm wrong.
>>557277519>Season 1 is literally the Fantastic FourWell, that's one way to make SNK look good compared to its competition.>>557260417Considering KT is banking on reselling the same DOA6 that killed the franchise for years doubling down in its gameplay problems and won't even have Mai and Kula this time, I doubt DOA fans should be happy with the announcement. Better to gather some fans to work on a rollback mod to DOA5LR.https://x.com/FGAnniversaries/status/2022145998890639472
>>557200076>I still love fighting games but I'm tired of people irl getting mad when they losepeople don't not get mad when they lose in a more esports based game, so what is the point of observing this about FUN games?
>>557277038You never needed to be a mutant to join the X-Men, bro
Our resident schizo is a mutant
>>557282360oh nos andre agassi is about to discombobulate us
>>557285715well afterallit does require mutant powers to be able to tell the truth in the face of people who want to blame capcom and everybody else for snk's own failures
>>557285761lmao
>>557285715Which one
BUILT FOR MY COCK AND MY COCK ONLY
>>557286318budnick vs spiral is a dream match i never thought we'd get to see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFq0DpQdOgYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRKP8lubyB4FF1 theme just sounds better
>>557288334ok pedo
>>557288334ok legend
>>557286318Oh, look. The handjob girl.
>>557288334Deleted from DOA6 >>557278159
>>557288334DamnThat's a nice Yuri brapper
>>557296446Kula should never have been in DOA in the first place. With better girls like Athena, Angel, Leona, or Shermie, they decided to waste the slot and give it to lolicon bait.
Mai from Street Fighter 6Kula from Dead of Alive 6
>>557296446Kula should always be in DOA. She's the hottest SNK girl after all.
>>557261662>6 years of dev timeThis isn't true, the game was meant to come out in 2020, let alone the fact it was barely announced in 2019 after SamSho came out. So unless it STARTED development in 2016 (very unlikely because SamSho was made by the same team) then yes, but even then the last two delays were Corona and Rollback which put it back by only around 14ish months. Correlate the fact one of the leading theories that CotW was already being worked on before KOFXV was even finished (which I don't believe, but some do) and the dev timeline makes a lot more sense than """6 years"""It's more likely they wanted to do a quick turn around KOF like they used to, ergo the """reused assets""" and just kept getting hit by dumbass delays due to inability to adapt to modern game development. Anyway, you can complain all you want about less content, but CotW came out the box with more content and people still hated on it more than KOFXV, so it's not content that's the deal breaker
the fact that someone thinks kula qualifies as rorikon bait says they have never been to /a/
>>557298451SNK tried to pivot to her being lolicon for whatever reason, but it doesn't work because she just has a petite bimbo body. It's like they're too afraid to outright pander like they used to
>>557288134This one >>557286124
>>557299732I could swear I'm seeing a camel toe
>>557307957Yes. and?
https://fatalfury.lnk.to/VinylOSTCTOW is saved!
>>557309639I literally can only remember Kevin's and Preecha's theme
>>557309887Rock and Fallen Rock have pretty great themes. Most of the returning cast are remixes and new takes of their old themes. Besides the DJ stuff, music is pretty great. The opposite of the forgettable themes KOFXV has. XV has great arrangements of older themes at least.
>>557299732Endless sex
Bobbros...is there any hope for him at this point?
>>557317278Wrong thread, Kekken bro.
While Oda gets rid of lolis, Capcom gives us another loli in RE9. Someone please fire Oda and put a Chad in charge to make photorealistic Akari
same few pieces of art be like
> Likes KOF _because_ it lacks different playstyles > Doesn't like FF because it lacks different playstyles I don't get it.
Fio in COTW
Me in Fio
SNK is the kid that turns up to events in their dad's Lambohttps://youtu.be/ks9UOapoyA0?t=509Owww but truth.
Cap vs Snk 3 concept art leaked
>>557326625LMAO what was that legitimately retarded take on SNK? This is what happens when ameritads use Xitter to do their homework for them.SNK was huge the in 90s, and were the ones who kept Capcom pushing and pushing, and eventually, we'd get masterpieces like CvS2 that are still being played today. Of course, a bunch of retarded decisions and 2 bankruptcies can fuck over any company, but let's not pretend SNK's legacy wasn't or isn't "unearned" because they were bought by the Saudis like this retard is implying.
>>557326625Idiot zoomer trying to pretend SNK is this new shady Saudi branch company that's trying to buy its way through the FGC as if they haven't existed before he was in his father's testicles.
>>557328440>>557329141Then where are the players excited to play a legacy franchise?
>>557322360Kek
So there is a tournament and no one told me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfrabTvBeZc
Good lord fuck Hokutomaru and whoever plays him. Him and Kain. Whoever designed these characters needs to be fired. And you just know all the Kain players who immediately dropped him in the patch moved to Hokuto too. Characters for the inhuman, I tell you.
goichi in losers ?!
>>557329326Kind of hard to do so when your output has been literal shit or failed revivals for the past 10 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfrabTvBeZclet's have a nice evening watching esports friends
reynald dropped kain lmao
>>557326625so it's not really his, he's just taking it for a joyride like a trust fund babby and he doesn't really have anything to offer by himself other than showing off his dad's luxuriessounds kind of similar to being owned by an oil prince so yeah i understood that reference
shit, If I'm not mistaken, it was Kog who took away Abao's pass to the world tournament.Or mok, i don't know
so kevin is doing busted massive damage just like motw now
kizzie likes the word elite a lot
2 mr big in top 8, I told you guys he's the best character in the game
this nigga is broken
>>557350110go1 matches are always too much fun, he always wins and it's always by a hair
damn look at that large crowd
who won? that was so fast
where can i buy a rev it up tshirt
>>557210165That’s a prime woman right there
This thread is as boring as ever yeah not coming back for another week
>>557358031These threads are slow and are just bitching because nobody has enthusiasm anymore and SNK only cares about larping as a AAA fighting game company (lol) so we aren't going to see ANYTHING worthwhile until SNK does fucking anything else than CotW at this rate
>>557358031what? hold up, you're supposed to blame me for you taking a hiatus from here
>>557358031qw're watching teh grand finals
Sadly, I'm too busy watching tourneys and posting on /neog/ instead of actually playing CotW
>>557358404we can just play the other games, I also agree cotw was pretty disappointing, but don't let it be everything. I will play the Samsho games from beginning to last and maybe drop my thoughts.
>>557375640It's more so these threads don't actually want to talk about other games, even if they larp that they're all better than what's out right now. I've sung KOFXV's praises but it's a game that's harder to play when my friends are busy and aren't around as much as they used to beIn my humble, anonymous opinion I've always felt that SNK kind of struggles with output in general and gets lucky with the occasional critical hit game that fans consider really fucking good, but it's all a niche within a niche compared to the wider FGC. Like most of the best KOF games are still only really comparable to Accent Core, which the FGC really treats as a novelty more than anything. SNK doesn't actually have a Super Turbo or Third Strike, 98 and 02UM come close but that's about it
>>557358031Anon nooo pls come back! You're going to lose......... ...... Nightmare Geese trailer.......... and miss all the hype.............................of Nightmare Geese........................................(raughs)
>>557328440Soon, everyone around for 90s SNK will be old or dead, and the zoomer take that SNK were never popular or good, will be the main take everyone believes. Seen it happen to other things. Shit, zoomers already say 'fighting games were NEVER popular' when the devs fuck up. People used to refute that a lot, but now, slowly, more and more zoomers are repeating it.
>>557323004They are KOF fan boys too young to remember golden era SNK. They've never known FF, all SNK has done for 26 years is KOF over and over, with a couple of SamSho and Metal Slugs. Never saw those get pushback. That's why. Retarded? Yes. But it is what it is.
>>557379610Doesn't help when most developers are too fucking stupid to take real risks or try to do anything unique in this fucking genre. They just follow what Capcom's doing and expect the same results, especially if they dump money into the graphics so they do nothing but polish turds for a decade and then move onto the next turd. If SNK actually made games that look good, doesn't have to be "le hyper realism" just a real fucking anime style like Strive, then SNK would actually be in the same boat and not the sinking Titanic they're currently coasting in
>>557358404And then when someone goes off topic for pure boredom of waiting Snk news and bump the thread at page 9, a giga faggot surges and starts complaining about the off topic/neog/ deserves all this
>>5572983316 years since the last game is 6 years to plan the game, which they were doing immediately. Kof was their main money maker at that point. They were definitely formulating XV and Samurai Shodown at the same time. And even if they weren't, for arguments sake, 6 years since the last game, and recycled characters with fewer modes, and a smaller roster is still inexcusable. That's why you only chose to try (and fail) to refute that one point. There's nothing you can say to change the facts.
>>556335118>>556346735https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74C5Ili1eM
I watched Nemo vs Go1 (Big vs Marco) last night and game actually looks stupider now>Did you correctly guess the wake up 50/50?>Yes/NoAt high speed and during 2 rounds
>>557379936>all SNK has done for 26 years is KOF over and overwell that's not necessarily true but the point is delivered
>>557382431>>557383565Yuri, please!
>>557384767>looks stupider nowIf EX still had hkd you would see even more mix though
/ourguy/
>>557393113aye yo teach somebody don't like what i try to shill them
How would YOU save SNK from irrelevancy? Or "le evil Saudi minion company" reputation it's been getting from zoomers?
>>557402164Well for one, now you straight up can't. SNK just ruined their original fighting game IP in real time and made it extremely unappealing in the Strive era so now the only hope is to double down on KOF again. If you were tired of KOF then, it's now going to be SNK's ONLY thing going forward until they finally start making some new fucking IP
>>557402164dejavu
>>557408516I've Been Here Before
>>557402164>Choose 10 (not woke) game studios around the world and give them 3 million to create a new original IP>Pray to God that at least one of them makes half the impact that Balatro didThis or just fucking bring back Samsho (2019). One of the best fighting games ever created.
>>557410078>Choose 10 (not woke) game studios around the world and give them 3 million to create a new original IPso turn snk into a publisher
>>557410357While they keep releasing fighting games that they love, yes. Just give them a 3-year deadline and a warning to the studios: no fighting games (duh), no +18 games.That's the best option they have until 2033. But, hey. I'm just anon. Surely based Oda-sama has great and better plans for SNK (raughs).
>>557411653can't really see it helping snk, esp if snk is just not that good at making decisions in the first place, it'd bleed into their ability to choose studios to contract something and they'd choose like the lowest tier half assed studio you could ever choose
>>557402164merge with capcom
>>557412168Well, if I tell someone to go fishing and that person uses their butt to hold the fishing rod, that's their problem. Not mine.
>>557412498I don't think that's possible, but if it is, it's the same as saying:>"I can't. I'm incompetent, I give up. Help me, Capcom."Oda would never d-ACK!
snk is owned by misk not the pif desu, meaning it’s the personal property of mbs, so it might not get affected by the saudi budget issues but you never know. It atleast shows the prince isn’t larping and is actually a fan.
It makes me feel bad for him though, imagine having this passion for your childhood company and trying to save it by pumping millions of money only for it all to be sabotaged and ruined by someone as ugly and worthless as oda.
>>557402164Make new ips and kof16 with advanced technology. There’s really no other answer.
>>557413062if you're paying them to do it correctly however, in the value of 3 millies, that's an accounting problem
I really want SNK to release another Slop trailer, bros. That day was so much fun. But that's never going to happen again. Sad.
>>557415224Yeah but which one greenlit the retarded commercials though
>>557402164Samsho ARPG just needs to copy Sekiro.
Guys I settled my deal with the Blood Money Prince. He sold SNK to me for a dollar, since that was more than it was worth. I'm cancelling CotW to focus on KOFXV DLC again, first character will be Iroha. Thank you all for giving me the confidence to make this decision!
>>557416743What about Ronaldo? Sports Team?
>>557417505Ronaldo isn't on Saudi Payroll anymore, we couldn't bring him back. We will include the American Sports Team but they will be merged into a single rushdown character because Oda burned our money on trying to get his OC Fallen Rock in the game. We'll only have the budget for those two, Shen Woo and Joe's other apprentice Kwon. If Season 3 does well, we'll add Tsugumi Sendo
>>557418238PLS DO THISADD TSUGUMI IN KOF SINCE ODA IS A FAGGOT THAT ONLY WANTS SAUSAGES
Your next KOF https://youtube.com/watch?v=MIyDpaYRCRk
warning AI slop
>>557384767Made it more rushdown for Kof pros who cried about oki. So now it's back to hopping around, fishing for ex combos, and skating around like cocaine squirrels. Ie: making it Kof lite, which won't draw players. Might even push them away.
>everyone stopped using accel SPGOda won
>>557421417The pace "ceiling" is now closer to MotW. >>557422178Poongko was doing really well last week with Accel SPG. Perhaps getting the health lead is even more important in this game in Season 2.
>>557422178Fuck SPGay and fuck Oda. The correct name is T.O.P.
World Heroes 3 will save SNK
>>557425358A new World Heroes will have bombed for multiple reasons under the current FGC, imagine all the shit faggots like Max Dood and Sajam will say after seeing Rasputin.Which is why SNK should pivot into making the next best thing: Fate/ Fighters.
>>557427629>Maxshillian Nah He has already begun to lose his credibility in the fgc because of his numerous hypocritical statements. In fact, he is now starting to change his stance just to avoid more of this in the future. So trust me when I say he won't say shit about Rasputin. And also, as soon as companies stop following his stupid advice (and that's only a matter of time), this chinger will become a nobody.
>>557427629they would have removed lethal obstacles and stage gimmicks because "muh e-sport">doodIt has been a funny week in x, I don't know why but I only read people shitting on him last days. I don't know what started it though.
Samsho has the best fighting game style:>Easy to play, hard to master>Ideal for beginners in fighting games >Slow pace/not Dragon Ball Z style. This allows everyone to see what's happening>No crazy combos, cancel 10 times, 3 minutes of cinematics >Doesn't need "smart controls">Literally has an "easy button" (strong slash) that everyone can use without being criticized or called a scrub (see the rush combos in KoF)>The wait between players to see who will attack generates hype due to the tension, while in most fighting games the reaction would be "boo, fight already!">Iroha is hot and Chamcham is really cuteSeriously, this game could be hugely successful today. SNK was truly stupid to end support for it.
>>557440869They killed the game before it even really came out due to not having a Rollback Steam port off the bat. That's why more people tried to give KOF and CotW a shot, but those failed because they're just lesser versions of actually popular fighting games obsessed with rushdown comboslop. SamSho would need to have another installment at this point to actually hit it off. If Iroha isn't launch roster, then it'll just be a repeat of 2019
>Sagat can't have fireball zoner in SF6? >Adon & Ken cries as Sagat steals their crazy kickshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLXcE-CSRII
Nightmare Geese will save COTW.Also, SNK was fucking retarded. They should have paid vtubers to mash and shill their game instead of hypocritical snakes like Max.
>>557442857They only had enough money to pay for a match between Kronii and Gigi and it was pretty obvious they didn't actually give a shit about the game. Both were just absolutely struggling to pick characters to play as and ended up on fuckin Kain and Hotaru anyway
>>557288334I'm so sorry.
>>557442857nah, the game needs to be popular because it's good, shills, vtubers, propaganda, none of that shit is good for US, dix is a popular game because of all that garbage and what's the result? it's a trash retarded shitty game that no self-respecting human being would ever playfatal fury just needs to add cool characters and keep balancing the game until everyone in the cast is good
>>557442857Geese DLC will add a daytime variant to Geese Tower like Fatal Fury 1.
>>557440869It was their biggest fumble for sure. Long load times, not enough content, needed to be even bloodier (not gorier, bloodier, just my opinion), needed slightly better models and a much better OST. That was the only nu SNK game to nearly leave the bubble.
>>557427629Type Moon already has French bread
>>557440869nigga they spent a ton of money adding rollback to it and no one plays the game
>>557437303>I don't know what started it thoughA clique of fgc influencers formed over the years. They have been lying about intentions for almost a decade now. They have been influencing all fg devs to dumb down. It reached breaking point now all major games are dumbed down rushdown slop. They made a game that recently with all that, it flopped. Now they're being exposed as the liars and shills people were calling them for years.
>>557434093It shouldn't have taken so long for people to realize that about max, Sajam, ojama, jiyun. Anyone listening to them even for a little bit, could've seen right through them all. People are to blame as much as them imo. But that's another topic.
>>557424729>The pace "ceiling" is now closer to MotWYou say that like I'm supposed to be be like 'oh, sorry, didn't mean to blaspheme'. Cotw should aimed to be better than motw. That game flopped as well. It's like when people kept saying whatever sfv was doing was trying to be closer to the Holy 3rd Strike, like that's a positive. It flopped!
all snk needed to do is hire me to direct the company and I would fix everythingfirst thing I would do is cancel aof4 and all other games in development, making new games 2 years from now will be far cheaper with AIthenthe company plan would be to gain market share instead of making quick profits, I would pick up samsho 2019, kofxv and fatal fury and use those are snk staples with long term support to fish people inhowupgrading all the games to the lastest UE4 branch, I'm sure kofxv and samsho are not in it, then upgrading all plugins that fighting games use, stuff for lobbies, matchmaking, rollback, etc, that alone makes working on the games much easier for the company because the tools are all the samethen add fatal fury's rollback and crossplay to the 2 older gamesnow we have 3 games with very different game play and people can play on their old ps4s, xboxes and they will be sure to find matches if the games have minimum 100 players online, then you release definitive versions with all dlc for cheap and those would be "forever games" that slowly attract players and give snk some much needed good press with the communitythen we work on new stuff on UE5 or UE6, that will require a lot of work
>>557446410>needed slightly better modelsI respectfully disagree.
I would also merge the new aof to fatal fury, just add the new characters and add a new dlc season for samsho 2019 with popular last blade characters, essentially killing those ipsnowthat's the big difference between how I think and how snk thinks, I think that for fighting games to be popular they need to be treated as live service games, you need to show you'll support it for a long time and the game will run well and you can get home and always find matches because of crossplay rollback and community buildingnowsnk thinks completely different, they are stuck in the 90s, they want to SELL games, make more games, sell more games, make 2 seasons of dlc, then move to the next game and it's a failed strategy because people nowadays expect esports genre games to be treated like live service games, they want 10 years of support for each game.
>>557448986Keep in mind Iroha's a S2 model so she actually had effort put into her
>>557447031Can I actually get some twitter screencaps of people shitting on Maxdood and co., I need the laugh
it just doesn't make any sense to make aof or the last blade as fighting gamesfighting games are supposed to be live service games with long term supportyou want to keep those IPs alive? make an rpg, a souls game, a jrpg, arpg, whatevereven fatal fury shouldn't have been a fighting game, if should have been something elsenowfatal fury, samsho and kof can coexist as fighting games because the gameplay is different enough, although fatal fury is debatableit's such a disgrace that snk is sitting on top of so many great ips and the dinosaurs running the company can't make use of it because of how stuck in the past they are
>>557446581it was too late by that time>>557440869and they could simply add akari as guest to guarantee its success
>>557449631>it's a failed strategy because people nowadays expect esports genre games to be treated like live service games, they want 10 years of support for each game.And that's the kicker. All signs point to SNK intending for Garou CotW to be that game, the fighting game they would support for 5-7 years. But after the game's failure, they decided to pivot and dump seasons 2 and 3 within a year. Maybe they'll try again with AOF...
>>557452385God what a fucking retarded post
>>557402164I've been happy. People who aren't can go play SF6 or Strive. Oh wait. They won't.
>>557468309wrong, you're just dumb
>>557468594>We should make our fighting games into not fighting gamesYou're an idiot.
>>557468638enjoy ur 12 thousand sales
date sim last blade so i can romance photorealistic akari
I would save snk, it would take a good 3 years for my vision to turn things around but after that we can maintain new KOF and samsho on UE6 (2030) live service games and a bunch of single player games for the other franchises, it would be a profitable company
>>557442857>SNK was fucking retarded. They should have paid vtubers to mash and shill their game instead of hypocritical snakes like Max.did they not get lil gigi among others
>>557402164You're wrong. It's actually "le evil Saudi minion AI-Slop company" now.
cut the fat
>>557475395arr kirra no firra
>>557452385They literally had the perfect fighting games one being a team fighter and the other 1v1, just keep expanding them yet they threw all that in the garbage for cotw, which sold less than SamSho 2019 btw. It’s just crazy that oda isn’t fired he’s the most retarded businessman ever. You can make a case for 3d fighter but they didn’t even make that.
>>557476175>It’s just crazy that oda isn’t fired he’s the most retarded businessman everwhat about inafune
>>557476393Inafune was literally the only reason Mega Man ever got games. His biggest sin was trying to expand a bootleg Mega Man brand too fast instead of actually focusing on a single fucking game
>>557476175I dont think fatal fury is the end of the world because the gameplay is very different from samsho, but they failing to make those games into actual esports live service titles is the big thing here, I would also only go with kof and samsho forward because competing with street fighter isn't a good idea
>>557442675>>557442857GEESE UPPERCUT
>>557416681I feel like that’s what’s going to happen, and people by then will have souls fatigue and even more for sekiro-likes after nioh 3 and onimusha. They’re so late, if samsho arpg released in 2025 as their renaissance game it would’ve been different.
>>557476545Yeah you already had your own niche market that other companies would kill for, why pivot to competing with Street Fighter? Strive was successful because it focused on being special in the market as that super good looking anime game, samsho too had that niche of being a samurai fighter.
>>557449962This. Charlotte looks weird, but then Amasuka is one of the best nu SNK models I've ever seen.
>>557476545>>557477445It's odd that you guys think KOF and Samsho didn't already "compete" with Street Fighter.
I don't think Samsho needs a new fg. 2019 is practically perfect, just rerelease it and make some low effort updates and dlcs. You zoomie liked our rpg? Nice, we also have this pretty cool fighting game. It's quite easy to play and looks very good, why don't you give it a try? There, SNK fucking SAVED.
kaeda just got a new rival: ....................................amasuka
>>557476175>>557480245If it weren't for the deal with Saudi Prince, they would have continued focusing on KOF15 and maybe Samsho. When Oda received the infinite money card, he showed his true colors (poop colors), throwing KOF under the bus to focus on COTW. but it was completely redundant and pointless, since all the characters and stories could have been put into KOF15. So millions were thrown in the hole for nothing. Millions that could have resurrected Samsho. Now it's over. and to put the final nail in the coffin, that old fart with a shitty mentality was fucking promoted. Now he'll only leave if his name is in the Epstein files. My advice is: don't expect anything good from SNK, only mediocre results. I mean, one of the best cars is driven by one of the worst drivers. The result is obvious.
>>557486236wrong, if it wasnt for bin salman the company would already be bankrupt
>>557487101>save SNK from bankruptcy (again)>keeps Oda thereHe didn't save it. He just delayed the inevitable a little.
>>557476545>>557477445Competing with SF6 is a bad move. Should make CotW it's own thing.I would still have dlc for KOFXV
>>557487831Not just in SF6, but also in esports. Oda had such a strong desire to be the best in the competition against SF that he put an absurd amount of money into the SWC prize pool just to say in a slop trailer, "the biggest prize pool in fighting games." It's the same as saying, "Look guys, I beat them." Oda seems like a spoiled rich kid who used his father's credit card to throw the most expensive party in the neighborhood just to feel superior. just pathetic. And then Capcom simply put Oda in his rightful, mediocre place by creating the best version of Mai the world has ever seen.
>Capcomweird way to type TECMO
>>557490215It's good but too much doll-looking
stupid giant lesbo monster kidnaps a tomboy
>>557493874King of the Monsters with Kaiju Yuri as guest character
Why doesn't SNK make their own Deadlock? (with blackjack and hookers). The western market seems to be gearing towards MOBAs again, but doesn't want to touch League or Overwatch.
snk has the best fg girls of all timeamazing how oda makes them go to wastejust look at the latest samsho figurine, its selling like crazy but i bet the coomers buying it dont even know the character
>>557493874why manganime hasn't this soul anymore?this is beyond nu SNK
>>557480245That would be what old snk would do. Samurai Shodown Special or something. New stages, Slash variations, new moves, new characters, new ui, new netcode, new content.
Roadmap
>>557383565source
>>557486236You’re lying. Go check oda’s old tweets he always wanted to make a sequel for motw and it was already in the works saudis just eases their burden with the budget
>>557486236Him deleting Freeman just exposes his boring mediocre mentality, you will never have anything interesting with him on board, just more fallen rock shit because mommy was pushed
>>557500816Deadlock is a flop, it’s only generating buzz because of the character designs but unlike Strive investing in MOBAs is far more exhausting than fighting games, so casuals won’t play it. Though I agree there’s still untapped potential in the hero shooter genre, but it needs innovation, instead of just copying overwatch
>>557440869The fuckwits running SNK are really something else, what other company can compete with the level of self sabotage these retards constantly do? The company needs to die again and stay fucking dead
all the above posts are me schizoing around btw
>>557512868What's being discussed is Oda's shit decision regarding the games. If that's true, if budget wasn't the problem, why kill KoF? Why didn't they make Fatal Fury with ring outs and two lanes as standard, so both could coexist? Nope. He killed KoF and left KoF fans with nothing on its 30th anniversary just to focus on Cotw. Big shit move.
>>5575074632026: no new games, only Cotw circlejerk2027: AoF 4 (50%), Cotw ends support here2028: AoF 4 (100%), SSrpg (50%)2029: SSrpg (100%)2030: ????2031: ????2032: ????2033: Oda is finally fired after failing to turn SNK into a AAA company.
>>557522183Still 7 years to go...
look at all those mes doomposting snk, anon, it's all just one anon (me)yep, can't be anyone else, just me
>>557523737You must be retarded or something. Where's the doomposting in criticizing SNK's actions?Is it really okay for you that you don't see anything wrong? Like the 4 million in prizes at SWC? Is that right? No. That's crazy to do. If even Capcom, a multi-million dollar company that has already sold 6 million copies of SF6, doesn't put THAT amount in prizes, why would SNK do it if Cotw sold less than half a million? That's fucking desperation for approval. So, yeah. Fuck Oda. He should be fired as soon as possible. And that money should be used for new games. And fuck you too, anon. You don't have the brains to run any company in this world.
>>557512607grok bro>>556604762>>556663612meanwhile someone thought this real jappa was AI
>>557531203Nice ass slide, Yuri.
>>557513892>Deadlock is a flop.Dude it hasnt even released yet.
>>557489421>then Capcom simply put Oda in his rightful, mediocre place by creating the best version of Mai the world has ever seen.She's a literal kankersore on the meta and I say this as a guy who at this point mains her.
Gonna buy me some Cock of the Walk. Wish me luck.
>>557545292I bet he mistook with Highguard.
>>557548396I do think the people and Geoff Keighley who thought the shadow-drop approach was a good idea need to go back to business school and eat crayon.
>>557548929Gayoff doesn't care. He must have received over half a million to promote that flopped game. AOF4 will be shadow-drop next year lol
>>557550963It's fluctuating at the high 1k/low 2k threshold.
>>557552804>Flopped games in other genres still have 1k players>Flopped games in the fighting game genre hit 100 playersGod fucking damn what a dogshit genre
>Metal Slug + Counter StrikeDone. SNK is saved. It's really that simple. Thanks me later.
An SNK MOBA might work, make it more melee-favored and shorten the map to make it stand out from the typical range-favored, bigger map like Deadlock, it'll almost feel like playing a Co-op 3D fighter. Also gives room to re-invent characters and approach them creatively. Think Mai entering stealth and moving fast, Akari summoning youkai pets to fight for her, Iroha becoming a crane and briefly gaining flight...Kula could also play as something like a mix of Lissandra from League and Mei from Overwatch.
>>557564625Could even include characters brought up in ways you wouldn't expect. Think Botan briefly being able to control dead enemies. Rumi Aikawa throwing buffs for her team from her backpack, Candy Diamond throwing rockets and making a great duo with Kula, Amakusa can resurrect upon death...
>meleePeople like guns you can’t take away that.
>>557564625>>557566412>An SNK MOBA might wo-NO
>>557529352>Where's the doomposting in criticizing SNK's actions?lol first of allyou know what, nevermind lmao
SNK is retarded as fuck, but I would love to see you fags have a crack at running them. The speed at which you would fail would be epic and schools would use you as a case study about what not to do. Just the way you talk about the role shows you don't have the first clue about being in charge of shit.You delusional fucks are just consumers and your ideas are straight up dumb.
>>557580609that's another part of the problem and why i admit i probably wouldn't be able to helpbecause they can't get out of their own way so much that it's a lost causethey have stupid management and dispassionate half-assed staff, this is like ingredients that make up RETAIL workplacesand besides that, even if they had the talent, it'd be a slow burn to revitalize a fallen company that's gone down so far, i would never promise immediate high returns and would want a slow cook strategy, not something investors are keen on hearing when they want immediate profits so their money grows fast so they can fire people and keep more money and then bail out as soon as shit hits the fan due to their actions
>>557580609I think the main problem here is the retards here keep talking about fighting games like that's a fucking avenue for success. Then they'll go and say "maybe a KOF Moba is what SNK needs." It's just as lack of forward thinking as Oda and KOF Studio thinking that's how they're going to be AAA. You all have no fucking idea what to do with the IPs, and it shows with how uncreative the last couple games have been. Here's a pitch for you so you can see that not everyone here is a goddamn retard:>SamSho RPG is a good thing, let's hope it's good>Fatal Fury should have either been a beat em up or action RPG like Yakuza. Making it a fighting game and killing KOF doomed it>Make a twinstick shooter or full on Third Person Shooter Ikari, whichever the budget can allow for. Let's try to flesh out Leona and Heidern beyond Orochi bullshit so that they can actually be characters and not functions>Athena scrimblo platformer to bring her back to her roots. Can be Princess or Asamiya, doesn't matter, personally I prefer Princess because we need more sexy girls instead of whatever the fuck Asamiya is. Maybe we can be funny and give Kensou an ancestor based on Sun Wukong>NESTS-themed wacky wahoo pizza action game. K' and Kula are wasted in KOF where they aren't allowed to be main characters. They can do cool, epic solo combo slop and people will actually play that because they aren't getting cool, epic comboed in a kusoge fighter>Obviously more Metal Slug>New IPs in general, seeing the same 5 faces like Terry, Mai, Kyo, Iori and Nakoruru has done nothing but rot SNK's brand. Branch out, do a genre like a Strategy RPG, survival horror or if you wanna stick to arcade stuff a top-down shmup>Keep KOF the main fighting game where all these IPs crossover and promote these IPs. It doesn't need a big budget, it just needs to look good while the rest of SNK is pumping out actual big budget contentOutsource half this shit just to get it out faster. THAT is what SNK needs
>>557582119It's too late for all that. Their brands are bordering on worthless and expanding into genres they have no experience in is a big gamble that would most likely be futile financially. The mess they're in isn't something they can produce their way out of either. They're stuck because every dollar they spend is potentially a waste with low/nonexistent ROI and inaction keeps them irrelevant.SNK is stuck in a death spiral.
>>557583938Well of course it's too late for that, they made a fucking Fatal Fury fighting game and are wasting all their fucking newfound money on prize pots for nobody. If SNK were smart they'd be changing their focus from fighting games right fucking now and devaluing KOF Studio for being an abject failure. But instead we're going to get another year of CotW and burnt money. My hypothetical CAN fix these problems, but they'd take years to get going. If they start now, they won't be finished until 2030 because they AREN'T working on them right now. There's nowhere to go but down, because that's the option they choseThis is the exact situation Sony's in by the way. Their hardware is fucking useless because of their inability to truly cultivate IP. They just have an autist trying to push Horizon as a thing instead of tapping into all of the current brands and concepts they already made and own. These companies have zero forward thinking skills and it's why Nintendo is mogging them. Shit if RE9 doesn't do well, I don't think Capcom's gonna be doing well either. SF6 objectively can't carry Capcom. Fighting games are just not capable of that
>>557580609>snk has bombed multiple timesfan: >"do the opposite of what made you fail"you:>"no! that wouldnt work!"
>>557434093>numerous hypocritical statementswhat were the last few? outside of the recent yakuza one
>>557520190>why kill KoFCause it flopped. Inb4 so did cotw. Cotw flopped partly because Kof xv was so dogshit. It more or less cratered their reputation netcode wise, content, recycling, and put the nail in the coffin that they never support their games for long. (people gave multiple chances after XIV and SS). Most were done with nu SNK after SamSho was abandoned, if we're being honest. When XV shat the bed at launch, reveal, recycled DLC, matchmaking, and content, SNK sank further. It's been over longer than you think.That's not even getting into graphics and presentation.
>>557587754Yeah, the fan's ideas and suggestions are built on a faulty premise. SNK cannot be saved. The decline can be softened but genre switching and producing more junk ass games will not change that fact. More money will not make people care about dead brands or boring characters. You'd have them spend money to make money but ignore the fact that their products barely sell. There is no marketshare or mindshare for the company to utilize.It's such a childish understanding of the situation and seems to be mostly motivated by your selfishness to have more to consume.
>thread is 12 days ago
>>557588294Mvci, Doa, Snk-Saudi... there's more.
whatever happened to that see you in 2033 guyhe said he was going to keep doing it to like annoy me or w/ehe will be missed
>>557591546I missed "more like Geitenkun/LOL!" anon
>>557589715>The decline can be softened but genre switching and producing more junk ass games will not change that fact.Putting out junk ass games works for Konami. It's because they actually have more cultivated IP people give a shit about and are actually putting out more than a dogshit genre that has objectively proven to not be any company's bread and butter. Even ArcSys is on a knife's edge because if Strive V2 isn't what they need it to be they're gonna end up suffering the exact same fate as what Insomniac went through. And I do not believe they have what it takes to pull it off if fucking Capcom can'tBesides obviously the solution isn't to put out "junk" but there needs to be more products to get out there, but it shouldn't be junk like it is now. The core issue is they can't put out what they need to put out to get their names out there, nor will they be capable just because they doubled down way too fucking hard on CotW. It has nothing to do with CotW or even KOFXV flopping, it's the fact they're STILL burning that money on a flop that's just going to be the end of them instead of pivoting away from it entirely
>>557591978Damn I can't see it as a 'male' anymore
>>557589715>SNK cannot be savedLoser mentality. SNK flop because of incompetence. There's no curse. No celestial alignment causing it. It is hubris and incompetence. Period.
Okay. Here my supreme masterpiece idea:>Fire Oda >cancel SWC >Fire Oda >Use that money to outsource HD remakes of classic SNK games (Magician Lord, Crossed Swords, The Super Spy, Superside Kicks, King of Monsters, Beast Busters). It doesn't matter if they use AI, as long as they do a good job/not a slop>Fire Oda>Sell for $5 and spam everywhere>Fire Oda>Use the profits to outsource new IPs>Fire Oda again
>>557594759I know that it's mostly hubris and incompetence. It's just built up so much over time that I don't believe it can be overcome. Most potential customers have moved on or passed away, while new customers don't care about a nostalgia brand their dads & uncles were into.Like I keep saying, it's a death spiral. Both action and inaction cannot stop their decline. SNK is stuck.
>>557593956Saigado...
>>557593956Leona...
>>557593956Epstein...
Last Blade 3Weapons based 2D fighting game where characters can swap out weapons You can customize your weapons with accessories, unlock items to upgrade your weapons etc
Saigado Island/files soon
>>557596580Can they also date, marry and have sex with their weapons?
>post porn of her>snk is savedSee? Easy.
>>557596580akari is ready for my rod
>>557596174-Saving money from cutting SWC could be a net positive. It's not much money in the long run, though SWC does very little marketing for them because no one besides their spic geriatric fanbase watches anyways.-None of what you listed is even close to a "classic". It'd be more money down the drain with no fans to show for it.-Lowering the price will only lose more money and won't bring in fans (new or old).-New IP could maybe have a shot but SNK is just a toxic brand that can't manage anything. A consultant could hand them a good opportunity and they'd just overlook it because they don't know what's good or bad.This is why I said I'd love to see you retards be in charge of SNK. You'd blow through that Arab money so much faster and still have nothing to show for it. Then you'd come back to neog and all these freeloading poors would call for your head while they play pirated games on fightcade.
>>557489421>>557545495https://cthor.me/Fighting-games-product-designtl; dr ~ the game is fine, build the community into the game.
>104 players right nowWow the game gained zero players or lets they didn’t stick with it after playing for a month. Now we can say for sure the issue is the game itself is boring it’s not about any other shit outside of that. Even the people who gave it a chance got bored.
>>557599386>This subsequent period of around 2014–2020 was the dark ages of fighting gamesThis nonsense needs to stop. There's no such thing as a "dark age." That's a narrative propagated by SFags. They love to say, "Before SF4, we lived in the dark age of fighting games." Bullshit. It's only a "dark age" if you only have one game from a single company to play.
>>557596986That’s actually a cool addition to the series, make it about living weapons.
>>557598106Oh, kid. If only you know...All these anons ideas are superficial and ironic. Many people have truly interesting ideas, but they prefer to keep them to themselves rather than display them on some shit imageboard to prove a point to (you). Learn this.
>>557601728I think Bleach did this.
>>557597191>heraww yew shooooore
>>557607974Only Jenet can tell.
>>557598106At this point, a retard could probably do about the same or better. Let's not kid ourselves. You need to stop deflecting from Oda onto your fellow players. Saying "none of you could do better!“ is a very well known cope. Facts haven't changed. SNK's last 2 games are multi million dollar lazy, cheap flops.
>>557599386I've seen this making the rounds after 2xko's flop. It's damage control, and someone wants to be the first one out there to steer the narrative away from the real problem: FG devs listening to people like Max, Sajam, and other lying, money hungry narcissists.They're the one who kept pushing everything you seen people hate in modern fgs. They kept telling the devs that's how you'll attract casuals. But it was all in self interest. Taking out motion inputs flopped. Dumbing down controls flopped. Homogenization flopped. Auto combos flopped. 24/7 rushdown flopped.Devs started shaping games around what those few influencers wanted rather than using their brains. And now, if the names not Street Fighter, they're in trouble.
>>557610526Not once have I deflected or excused Oda. It's a given he should be fired but my larger point is it doesn't matter who runs SNK. Firing him doesn't make people instantly have a clue or any meaningful interest in what Last Blade or Art of Fighting is. It won't make people want to buy and play Samurai Showdown, KoF, or CotW. It sure as fuck won't make SNK mean anything to any decent chunk of people on this planet. They're stuck as something a few hundred poor third worlers "care" about (i.e. pirate the shit out of).They're a failure that gamers have completely rejected or forgotten about and no one will change that at this point. Especially not some dumbass fans who don't have the first clue about how to manage or lead a god damn thing. You're all morons spewing ideas that would only speed up their impending demise.
>>557598106>This is why I said I'd love to see you retards be in charge of SNK. You'd blow through that Arab money so much faster and still have nothing to show for it.and we don't have to, we aren't getting paid to work there, they arewe are the customerswe are in the usa where we can and will vocalize our opinions on products
>>557442857>Also, SNK was fucking retarded. They should have paid vtubers to mash and shill their gameThey didhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4T5j4h9A-0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jmBqwfB_uMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfdJn5ylCFM
>>557603050It’s really more of a side thing in bleach, like only Ichigo had it as a plot focus.
geese release when
jump+cd
>Snk https://youtube.com/watch?v=tqe1RBmJ9S8>Capcomhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=M6gXJoN8RNk
>>557643769Ryo, King and... Kasumi?
>>557643769K-pop Ryo is so cursed
>>557596580So something like SC2's weapon master mode? Maybe add in some roguelite dungeons that are branching ladder matches?
>>557618810I'm talking specifically to the people who say they do want to run SNK you dipshit and I'm aware that you're just consumers because the ideas on how to turn things around are awful. I don't know what the USA has to do with anything and haven't said you can't voice your opinion. Disagreeing on something isn't the same as telling someone what they can or can't do you retard.
>>557621354This. It won't/didn't work, though, because a) people can tell it's phoned in and paid for. Not enthusiastic. b) the real fgc, ie: street fighter, shills, like Daigo, Fuudo, Tokido that max and other faggots worship are NOW legit Capcom employees.
>>557666116Oh, you're one of those autists who don't know what a figure of speech or hyperbole is.
>>557666652c) the game sucks
>>557666116Yet you ignored the only post in the thread that actually put effort into planning out what SNK should be doing instead of what they are doing
Haven't seen them posted yet so
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>>557643769>>557656239Wasn’t there already a korean aof parody
>>557686820>>557686992these kinda bitches were popular back in the 80s now we only care about taimanin tier hyper sluts and sexualised lolita
>>557688010That's obviously not true with how much Frieren gets posted here
>>557666116well that's funny you go off namecalling like that because the guy you replied to put fire oda like 1 million times in that post and you took it seriously like he was trying to say he wanted to run snk as you so put it
>>557689636>with how much Frieren gets posted hereit's not THAT muchyet
>>557694596if stark had some balls he be eating lots of pussy
>>557695232Stark = Andy Give up.
bros do we think Terry or Mai would make it onto a Mount Rushmore of fighting game characters? especially if limited to one per franchise and they have to be fighting game originals?
>>557701091Terry sure as fuck ain't making it over Mai now, but neither is Sol Badguy over Bridget
Geese trailer soon?
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>>557673854>>557693761He's already been indirectly warned to stop wasting his time analyzing shitposting, but he chose to ignore it, making him even more retarded than "fire Oda" schizo.
>>556404339I concur. I swear game makers just have no respect for past works these days that they can get away with retconning.
