Bad Influence Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>
>>556233648Threadlocked: >>556204405
If her ult took longer to charge but didn't force itself would that be better? Obviously half value on creeps
Sex with Venator
>>556233848>>556233565experienced this firsthand myself when i got super fed as silver and could pretty much 3v1, but not 4v1, so my team just didn't come to my wolf engages and still lost i assume higher elo there's teams that know what to do though :)
useless bitch silver...
we lost... tf2trannies won.. they were right, valve needs to cancel deadcuck..
You'll see, you'll all see...Once the pros get their hands on Silver, she'll be recognized as broken!No one needed convincing to know that Graves is strong, the fact that people feel the need to do this song and dance about how Silver is "actually not bad" tells you plenty.Stop this weird cope.
Celeste bros, I've done all I can. Our time will come this Thursday.
>>556234026graves is a brainless character that doens't need skill to play, silver does, and when played well she's broken, its different dumbass
>>556233903Id increase her base attack speed 40%(and maybe nerf the dmg so its equal %) so she can last hit without getting deniedThey could also move some of the ult power to human but I also thought they should have move some of mina lane power to late game and they never did. If they veiw it as part of her character
>>556234012>Annoying to get in closed alpha with no skinner box mechanics is doing marginally worse than an old classic IP (full of bots)lmao
>>556234012>we'll ship the MvM update by Halloween guise>...>...Sugoooi
>>556234152holy copethe game just isn't good and the matchmaking is the worst i've ever played
>splitshot still bugs out vyper's damage statAwesome
You'll see, you'll all see...Once the pros get their hands on Mina, she'll be recognized as broken!No one needed convincing to know that Drifter is strong, the fact that people feel the need to do this song and dance about how Mina is "actually not bad" tells you plenty.Stop this weird cope.
Silver's kit is fine, the most questionable part is her ult activating by itself, I think it being a short cooldown transformation would be better and tune the numbers accordingly.Her main problems are that her numbers are some of the worst in the game.
No new hideout stuff since rem right?
>>556234012still doing better than concord, highguard, redfall, suicide squad, and skull and bones combined while still being in an invite-only beta
>>556234407the answer is obviously D for all the ESLs out there
>>556234216have you experienced marvel rivals' matchmaking yet?
>>556233648Here's your audience, Deadlock xisters.
how do i change region
>>556234489marvel rivals matchmaking is fine
Silver is the Holiday of this patch. Aimfags will love her and say shes OP and thats about it.
>>556233903>didn't force itselfLiterally the entire point.Talking about her numbers is one thing but asking them to remove the forced aspect is embarrassing for everyone. Casual faggots getting filtered by fucking Gnar's kit while the rest of the playerbase pretends they're le heckin awesome skillful Doter gaymers.
>>556234597>game literally forces you to lose on purpose>this is fineYou matched with one Archon player and youre dtill crying about it.
>>556234617Holliday is signficantly stronger than Silver
>>556234489Nta and I hate marvel but objectively it will have better matchmaking simply because of higher player count. Not that it matters because the balance is dogshit and the high ranks are literally unplayable
>>556234127Billy wouldn't say that
>>5562347411v1 me right now bitch ass
>>556234768you hate marvel but don't even know it employs hardcore EOMM and therefore objectively has worse matchmaking by any conceivable metric than a game that does not employ EOMM
>>556234768>A game which doesnt allow you to have a >5 winstreak has objectively better matchmaking than the one where I played with somebody that knows Pocket combo
>>556234735I peaked low phantom/high oracle and decayed to mid archon. Every game I am stuck with a mix of crayon eaters or tryhards. Not one game I've played out of like 15 has had everyone being equally skilled so the game just comes down to who has the better carry that jungled or ganked more.Marvel rivals has a lot of very close matches that come down to the wire. Sure maybe cause they have no economy but the street brools are usually stompy too in deadlock
>>556233985She's not a bitch. She's useful for having a big happy family, with me
>>556234706But Gnar's kit has always been bad for the game. It's a reason he's a staple in pro play, because he auto wins lane AND has massive teamfight capabilities.
why am I seeing this pattern growing where hazes are building the lowest impact shit imaginable for 'fun' in high MMR games? like dagger build, wow I did 600 damage and then... nothing. or building melee haze into victor. like what the fuck? these games are impossible to win and when you ask them to build a normal, effective build they always act like you just called them a fat nigger retard
>>556234984I do that because I dont want to farm. Farming is gey>play street broolI want to do the dagger build.
>>556234706Fuck off faggot I played Gnar, you rarely ever let his big form activate by itself, you manually activated it yourself via his jump in 90% of cases, that's his engage, also he was played solo top in a 1v1 usually against melees and could maintain distance in his mini form and harass.This isn't the case in Deadlock, Silver can be harassed non-stop because everyone is ranged and can easily close the gap on her.The only similarity between Silver and Gnar is the fact that their forms activate after a meter is filled, that's it.
>>556234910>Marvel rivals has a lot of very close matches that come down to the wireNigger are you braindead or is this bait? If you are being serious then you are a seeker shitter and there is literally nothing you can say that will convince me otherwise.
>>556234335He has a bedroom and some air vents you can run through yeah.
>>556235418I meant besides rem
>>556235260go ahead and show me a single one of your matches that was close within the last week, I'll wait. Every game is a 50k soul stomp
>>556234546Lol none of these retards are lasting more than 2 days or 3 games. Whichever comes first.
>>556234546the fanbase is so fucking horrible it's more tumblr than 2016 ow
>>556235497Oh, not that I've seen.
Jerking off in the C U B E
>>556234216kek tf2troon seething
I am once again asking for a good Sinclair bunny punch build.
>>556234735>game literally forces you to lose on purposeall SBMM games do this, thats literally how it works
>>556235702This retard really thinks a big player base means the game is actually good. God you sound like a riot shill.
I had to stop playing Street Brawl cause the music they use in it is so annoying
What are your street brawl wishlists?>New maps>Cursed items (has negative stats but even more enhanced positive stats)>Low-tier legendary items>Items can roll aghs upgrades for your heros skills/weaponsI'd also like a deadlock adaptation of the pirates vikings knights 2 game mode booty tag where you have 3 teams and each base has a chest drop off point, and your score ticks down to 0 based on how many of the six chests you have in your base, so you have to steal them from the enemy base. Obviously you'd use urns for this.
>>556235574I genuinely don't know why its garnered these people recently. It wasnt like this before. But I genuinely don't see people like this in game thankfully. Its just on twitter and in the youtube comments.
>>556235672>getting trapped in the cube with Mina>right next to her>she glares at you wish disgust as you jerk off>you cum in the cube>your cube slugs slowly drift towards her>she glares at you wish disgust and hatred as your cube slugs drift through the cube to lightly touch her bare skinit's like if space was real and you were an astronaut
As Silver what's the counterplay to the enemy buying Juggernaut?
>>556235702it'll be back down to 20k peak again soon dont worry
>>556235503>by the time I lost the game the enemies are beating usAs a Victor main I often come back from a large deficit into a late game comeback. Almost never is the game over even at a 50k deficit. I would say about 80% of my loses are due to my own throws or bad plays, especially as a hardcarry character like Victor. 10% of the time its not my fault and the final 10% is one of those dramatically unbalanced games where your teammates have died 20 times by the 10 minute mark. I would say about 1 in 10 games are like this including ones where I’m on the winning team. 9/10 times its “neck and neck” like you say the whole time, even when the enemies are ahead by 50k. All this is to say, thank you for confirming you are a seeker shitter.
>>556235907You counter fire rate slow with more fire rate.
fix your shit, Valve
>>556235712Just max out bunny duration, get all melee damage items, cooldown items/echo shard, some movement speed, and get backstabber.
>>556234012>60k people daily using Steam services to play pirated gameswhat a world
>>556235792Technically not true, it only does this to solos and partial teamsIf you full stack it cannot give you mouth breathing sandbags to "balance" the lobby and instead your opponents will just gradually get better
>>556235907Rope and soap
>>556235864Adjusted walkers/guardians with unique movesets. Possibly creeps too. Minibosses that come fight every once and a while to help push Altering heroes is only one part of the game they are doing right now, they need to alter terrain/objectives/and add more wildcard elements beyond the items.
>>556235907Unstoppable until your +80% fire rate buff stacks up
>>556235792(You)
>>556234984If you can't handle people goofing off in the closed alpha you should probably wait until they make the real mmr queue pal.
>>556235876literal troons like Eskay picking up and streaming the game and bringing his whole troon community to it and he is literally regularly on Deathy's streamalso Valve has been tumblr girl slop since Portal/Portal 2 and they started putting out their terrible TF2 comics in 2013now the tumblr girls fucking work there and Valve's fanbase is full of trannies
>>556236004>and soapDoes Silver smell?
>>556235876I see them in game sometimes. Yesterday I started complaining in chat about Venator not winning the vote and some guy agreed with me, then I said it was because furries voted for Silver and he acted super offended and kept insulting me for the rest of the match lol. Then I said I hope there aren’t enough bronies for Celeste to beat Venator and someone else went “guy who’s afraid of bronies in big 2026”.
>>556235958This post is evidence vic should be nerfed 2bh, there is no reason to have this much agency over 11 other people. Normal heros make the difference maybe 20% of the time not 80
>>556236101Does Deathy draw them in? Idk i just see his stuff sometimes, if I'm thinking of the right person anyway.Idk who Eskay is but I doubt he could bring in THAT man.>employeesThat I can see with the old pocket lore, but unfortunately stem hasnt been purged yet. Also I can't see just s"employees" drawing in that type of crowd. But it is wild how they flock so heavily to each other and bot each others stuff, so who knows.
>>556235820if TF2 is so good why does no one play it
>>556236116This is an idiom.
>>556234216The stomps are literally built into the genre. Being a MOBA means that the better player will get fed and have an even bigger advantage against the worse one. Even worse DL is a shooter so the skill gap will be even more noticeable compared to something like LoL where half the cast is point and click charas for shitters. Don't know what can be done here.
>Icefraud transitioned to Yoshi (yo, she)Lesbians can't stop winning
>>556236247There’s also Conor Eats Pants who’s a turbo lefty redditor and he streams Deadlock now.
>>556236297They added graves so hopefully apollo also has an easy to aim attack, because yeah I agree the better aim requirement on top of everything else is just too much to ask for people to play competently every game. Not to mention you cant even get your hero reliably. I tried to play bebop today and got him 1/3 games. I had 20 deaths on seven cause I just stopped caring. Let me play fucking bebop
>>556236334oh hey jeff
>>556236406who'm'stve is jeff
Thinking about hurting other people while in the CUBE
>>556236297Just because it's a moba it doesn't mean it has to be shit like League.
>>556236176>the hardcarry powerspiked in the lategame and turned the game around>this is evidence that he should be nerfedYou continue to reveal yourself. Go back to Marvel shitters or COD or wherever it is you shitters came from
So, will celestefags somehow be worse than silvertrannies? I doubt it's possible, and we've already seen the extent of the damage this update does to the game, but who knows.
>>556236010Mutator modes would be fun too>map is slippery ice>Map has lava (touching lava deals 33% of your max hp and sends you flying in the air like in super mario 64)>Map has doorman portals everywhere>Map has shitloads of vents and shrink ray zones where you change between small and normal (small heroes have less ability range or something)>creeps are replaced with waves of mobile guardians>Map grows destructible terrain (vines or something you cut down with melee)et cetera
>>556236343None of these troon streamers are even popular but the game is still niche enough with it being in closed beta that they can have an outsized influence on the playerbase. When the game comes out and guys like Asmongold play it there will be a huge influx on normal gamers.
We need Venator to genocide these cryptidcucks now more than ever
>>556236536>damage is when game is alive instead of dead sasuga retard
>>556236247Eskay is this tranny, who honestly sort of passes voice wise in the sense he kind of passes for an autistic asian girl.Gets coaching from Deathy on stream, with Deathy being a prominent Deadlock centric creator, player, influencer. And has become a friend/collaborator of his. I don't even watch Deathy a ton but can tell interacting with Eskay regularly has had effects on him, like using gender neutral pronouns in regular speech for no reason more often.
>>556236247>>556236343and the twitter faggot art circles drawing degen shit of all the characters, seems to have brought in quite a fewthe new character designs are more suited for that, so that explains the sudden rise
Can someone please draw Mina and Graves having lesbian sex? Please, please
>>556236536I agree that the update made a mistake by adding Venator and bringing a bunch of /pol/cucks who prefer to obsess over troons nonstop instead of actually playing the game.
>>556236171>someone else went “guy who’s afraid of bronies in big 2026”.He's right, do those motherfuckers even still exist?
>>556236591Both Supertf and Shroud are regularly playing it now (to the chagrin of Shroud's fucking braindead 13 year old/38 year old manchild retard audience)deadlock's fanbase is gonna get 10x more retarded and troon before it's over
>>556236647>good at video gamesno shit they're a trannyand its basedi would fuck eskay
eskay is realyl hoti should really consider subbing to her onlyfans fr fr
Why are people pretending silver is fun? her gun sucks ass, her lane sucks, her late game is only good in wolf form but if you get behind you're fucked, so what's the point
>>556236607still just pretending like you don't understand the point, huh>>556236695bait, or tourist? the source doesn't matter, the content does, and yours is shit.
>>556236796>lane, late gameStandard trannies need no apply, we're BROOOOOOOOOLing here
>>556236171>someone else went “guy who’s afraid of bronies in big 2026”He's right.
>>556236343nobody actually watches him though they only know him for his epic xitter roasts, he somehow got elon musk on his stream and only got 300K views on the vodhe streamed the new deadlock update and only got 300 live viewers
>>556236796There is a gigantic cope brigade going on with Silver, retards think that her winrate is only low because of bad players and not at all because she's just completely undertuned
>>556236171>>556236704>>556236910>taking a jokey jab at something is the same as fearing ithow a zoomertards like this, genuinely
>>556236796Is wolf form hard to achieve or something? It's super easy to hit in brawl, just use your cooldowns.
>Highguard general is makng fun of usShut it down Yoshi, its time
>>556236796I’ve never felt as frustrated and powerless as I did when playing Silver. I was chasing Mina across the map and was finally about to kill her with a headshot when I got involuntary transformed into werewolf and she escaped.
>>556237092Her winrate is bad because she arguably the worst laner in the game and retards will refuse to play defensive until their ult is online.Shiv has terrible winrates too and hes perma broken. It means nothing
>>556236872And what content are you fucktards providing other than finding troons with 6 views on Xitter and spamming them here while crying like little cucks?
>>556237227shiv is dogshit right now, you are just a raped bitch traumatized by his glory days
>>556236692PLEASE
Why does Graves require zero effort to play? Literally all she has to do is buy refresher and press 4 twice and it will auto win teamfights/assrape the walker with ability to counterplay.
Fuck Hawthorne, fuck humans, we are the real monsters.
Chiedete e vi sarà dato, i luoghi e i frutti della Terra saranno vostri, guardatevi dal distruggerli con un bastone, dal ridurli in frantumi come un vaso di ceramica. Che tutti i Re governino con saggezza. Che la volontà del Giudice Universale sia compiuta. Servite il Signore e abbiate timore di Lui. Rispettate e amate il Figlio di Dio o Egli vi punirà scatenando la Sua ira e annientandovi lungo il cammino. Il Suo furore è incontrollabile. Tutti coloro che credono nel Signore invece saranno premiati con la sua Benedizione.Sono qui per sistemare le cose.
>>556236497As I told you that's a problem with most MOBAs and made significantly worse by Deadlock's high skill ceiling and floor. HOTS was literally made with the shared XP mechanic to counter this very problem.
>>556237395So true pablo!
>>556236171Only time I've seen it was funny enough also regarding Venator."If someone votes for a fucking traditional PRIEST over the Unicorn I'm going to be pissed" I almost thought it was a joke at first.
>>556236297deadlock has way more point n click and less skillshots than league lol
Celeste needs to beat venator it would be hilarious
>>556237473Someone summon /mlp/ quickWe need their combined autism to make the latinx seethe
>>556236692>>556237290this but instead draw a pov shot of Mina spreading her pale sticky wet pussy for the viewer and going "eat up you peasant, you should feel lucky to be offered such a high class dessert!"
>>556237395>………quinn venator lost all his aura since his name dropped
>>556237208No they aren't. Why are you trying to pit Highguardbros and Deadlockchads against one another? >>>/vm/2220588
>>556237231I understand that being a tranny (since there's no other reason for you to be that upset) almost certainly means you have autism, but bear with me:if you think those are the only posts made by people here who don't like the normalfag cultural and communal takeover, you are delusional to a degree of mental illness somehow even greater than what the doctor already told you
celestroons really trying to start shit with GODnator?
>>556237535It’s that same Silverfag that has it out for Venator voters because xhe’s so sure they’re the ones behind all the tranny lesbian posting
What were they thinking with Silver?
venator is based because he will most likely be a m1 hypercarry
>>556237272They nerfed his knives but also castrated debuff remover so he's even.
What are the implications of Celeste being a unicorn, and unicorns HATING non-virgins?will it have implications in her voice lines or lore?
>100k to 30k in hours>the worst gun in the game>base is a glorified transformation meter>transformation is boring as hell and gets kited by holding Ssilver is a miserable pathetic flop
Just had a bug in Street Brool where I Sinclair copied Silver and for the rest of the match I could not upgrade my Assistant from t2 to t3. It showed as unupgraded, which is how Silver's wolf skills are as Sinclair. Odd
>>556237818you're just shit at the game and can't utelize her, 1 damage in lane is lane, and you can literally 1v3 any fight with wolf in midgame
>>556236498>reading comprehension I said literally nothing about being a carry or spiking late game. I was talking about being the reason for a lose 80% of the time. This is an objectively outsized influence on the game of which you are only 1/12th. The usual rule is 40-40-20, 40% you win no matter what you do, 40% you lose no matter what you do, and 20% your plays make the difference one way or another. I do suspect now that you are retarded tho and just have a completely inaccurate perception of your impact
>>556237727Thought they buffed his knives with rapid recharge adding CDR
>>556237470Yes Loltard try arguing that the fps where you literally have to manually shoot a target that's dashing and sliding in the air while ALSO having to hit your skillshots and active items is less mechanically intensive than a simplified point and click RTS with autoattacks and half the cast having solely point and click skills.
>>556237878t. wood rnak
>>556237878Damn you must be a super good Silver player, better than the top ranked players in the game
>>556237959all the good players are saying she's broken
>>556237092Yea thats why she went 15-0 against pros in the scrimThis is a mina rerun
>>556237786nah valve is beta now. old valve would've had a running gag where she judges people for being virgins but thats heckin problematic yallx folx
>>556237130It's about bringing up a completely irrelevant fanbase at all.
>>556237983they say that everytime to generate clicksnobody wants to watch a video titled "silver is mid and boring and i went 3/4 in this game"
>>556236343I do know that guy, and hes a massive piece of shit. I'm so sick of this American psyoped culture taking over everything.>>556236647Obnoxious.
>>556238102no she's just genuinely a char that takes a little bit of brain to play and the emissaries itt can't manage, she's broken in good hands
silver's basically a yamato that pops refresher whenever she kills someone with way better debuffs she's very strong
>>556237535I'm just baffled at how retarded you are. The game is literally pivoting away from its Concord tier Neon Prime origins by adding good female looking characters and here you are saying they are made for troons and the cast should be solely made of burly dudes. And your entire argument verges on you posting fucking Twitter screencaps or literal who troons (actively making the thread worse).I'm amazed how you retards can be consistently wrong on everything but then again we literally just found out that /pol/ was the psyop of a pedo jew and these are the results.
uh oh meltie
Gun REM is broken and needs a big nerf
>>556236647Huh, I looked Eskay up and the handful of pictures I could find suggested maybe it was a girl. But considering > Woman who streams video games, is actually pretty good at them, and bounces from completive game to competitive game and excels at them. Also is a <lesbian>I had my doubts.
>>556238338>we literally just found out that /pol/ was the psyop of a pedo jewnta but I'm seeing this statement everywhere now like some "leftypol" or enlightened centrist win99% of EVERYTHING is a psyop of some pedo jew and always has been
>>556238443get some glasses nigga+ xhe still has the trans voice and you can literally find eskay's cock online if u look hard enoughdon't get me wrong thoughpassable enough to smash
>>556238338/new/ existed before that meeting and it was already basically /pol/
>>556237879A hardcarry should be a determinant factor in whether or not you win. If the game goes long and you arent carrying your team it means you failed. If the game goes short it often feels like the hardcarries fault since they are much weaker in a bursty game, or worse too caught up in farming to help the team. You are pretending to care about the statistics of how often a hardcarry carries because you completely embarrassed yourself and exposed yourself as a shitter. Fuck off.
>>556238614gross
>>556238614Ugly women existStill probably a tranny however
>>556238450>99% of EVERYTHING is a psyop of some pedo jew and always has beenfunny you say that because leftypol is in that 1%>>556238675and it was shut down for a reason
>>556238675no it didnt, was deleted by moot at the time
>>556238606Seven would say that
>>556238614I did not look hard at all and saw maybe 3 photos, which upon seeing this one, clearly exist because they do a good job hiding truth.
Ivy gargoyling my nuts
deadlock?
>>556236647>>556236740eskay is dogshit at the gameMail Eido the mina cosplay (available on alibaba) if you want someone good at the game to wear a shit dress
>>556238830>probablyur such a retard
>>556238102Nobody wants to watch deadlock content in general
/dlg/ - Prison Gays, Tranny chasers and /pol/ faction shitflinging
>>556237879>40% you win no matter what you do, 40% you lose no matter what you do, and 20% your plays make the difference one way or anotherSo this is unironically what the heroshooter players solofeeding on my team are thinking
>eu hours
>>556239073Basically people who don't play the game
>>556237363I played into one last night and it was insufferable. The only reason we won was because the rest of her team were drooling retards. She was almost able to 1v5 our team near the end. Crazy damage, her CC is solid, the skulls and zombies demand attention while you also have to avoid her CC, unavoidable m1 AND all the other opponents that may be flinging their own shit at you. Super oppressive.
>>556238450And this retarded form of thinking and the fact you don't understand what's wrong with it is exactly why /pol/ was made and why you're still ruled by jew pedo elites lmao.
>>556238992Don't say that about Ivy. She's too nice for that.
>>556239073Thanks, Jeffy E
>>556234546you could be much happier if you didn't purposefully look for things that made you upset and then shared it with other people.
>>556239179Just gank her jungle. She has no hp, no escape, no stamina, no disable, nothing. Literally just stun and kill her.
I specifically remember 90% of this thread saying that Graves is shit and only good in brool or to pubstomp newbies who can't aim>just punch the skulls bro
>>556239186The jews made pol too retard, you're the controlled opposition
its cool how they made farming completely useless so if you fall behind there's zero ways to catch up
I think Graves is pretty balanced unironically, neither shit nor disgustingly OP
>won 13/16 of my last matches>STILL oracle 6How many do I have to win......?? Surely I have to be close now.....
>walks up to your gun graves>steals her gravestone>teleports back to the other side of the map>places maximum duration, boundless spirit,max explosion radius, transcendent cd gravestone on the opposite side of the map>does this every 40 seconds>also gets a 500 hp heal and werewolf abilities every 8 seconds if the graves is in hiding
>>556239537>Ivy>not "An actual bush."
>>556239509That's exactly what I was saying tho.
How do you "trim" a pussy? I can understand shaving, but what do you even use to trim pussy hair so it looks neat?
Emergency Silver buff patch when?
>>556239621Scissors
>>556239163Can't blame them, who tf wants to play this torment nexus of a game
>>556237903Rapid recharge used to do that in the past
>>556239612A patch of moss.>>556239621Scissors and/or an adjustable electric trimmer with a guard???
>>556238614>passable enough to smashQuite literally no such thing.
>>556239621
>>556238232Is it worth rushing t3 on her ult though? I feel like it should be innately part of it, maybe adding a few seconds more instead of the full duration
>>556239703>>556239756You can manually trim pubic hair with scissors? It'll take forever and won't even look neat in the end.
>>556239621The same you would your chin, bro.
>>556239861I trim mine with scissors as a dude, you just angle the scissors against your body it works both as its own guard and trims it short without being too short or too long. I do it quick cause it's utility instead of for looks but you could do it fine for reasonable looks if you tried to.
>>556238232Except unlike Yamato, she's hot
>>556239992aislop
Realistically speaking, what could you do in this situation?
>>556240035Nothing, I'd just lose.
>>556239073That's just 4chan now.
>>556238232you're forgetting yamato has unstoppable
>>556240035Play any other hero.
>>556240027
BLEED
>>556240170This monke got a better hair line than me maaan fuck
>>556240170AH TRIED T' BE NICE
Who's a bigger Gigachad, Shiv or Warden?
>>556240265yeah but at least you're better at climbing OH WAIT monkey wins again>>556240420Shiv gets women so I guess him, but Warden is the protagonist.
>>556240420warden is covered head to toe in alchemical seals and spells to be ready to fight the patronsshiv has a good hairdo
>>556240420Warden seems more like a tough but fair father than a chad
>>556240170YOURE DEAD
Silver+M&K is kinda broken.But you kinda need to have a good M&K that knows how to pick a target.No, don't fucking combo the Paige that's 2/12, combo the carry.
I purposely soak graves zombies she's trying to splitpush with (i'm graciously allowing her to pad her damage dealt stat because she's pathetic)
Celeste will get a buff when laning with Apollo, Graves, Rem, Viscous, Vindicta, Bepop, Ivy, Warden, Victor & Paige
>>556240420The Lash
Street brawl is still the worst gamemode in deadlock next to standard.
>>556240651brool is fun. have you tried going random for the extra rerolls? makes a world of difference
i've decided that graves SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
>>556238808I accept your concession
>>556240745Completely embarrassing for you
shiv's hair is fucking retardedit doens't fit the char at all
>>556240706NTA but I did some runs where I could only pick enhanced and rares and you end up with some weird but fun builds
>>556240874they'll remodel him and make him handsome like pocket
>>556240874it doesnt?
before adding new characters they should redesign the shitt ylooking ones already in the game like yamato
>>556240960whenever i see that kinda elvis haircut i think music dude not a mob assassin
>>556241020that haircut was associated with italian mob and delinquents
>>556240992Are you a game dev?
>>556241020Shiv is practically Christopher from Sopranos but without the depression
>>556241020It's literally a thug haircut bro.
>>556241020Same for Infernus. Whenever I see him I'm thinking of a jazz musician striking a deal with the devil instead of some lowlife bouncer with a troubled past.
>>556240992you look at characters like sinclair and think yamato needs a redesign badly?
>>556241183I thought he was a bartender
>>556240992Different people work on different things. We know that Venator model has been ready for a long time, so why is it just sitting around doing nothing? And what should other developers do while the artists are busy with new designs? Of course they are working on redesigns and changes for existing characters.
>>556241291he is
silver and drifter are cool characters completely ruined by their shit gameplaywhat a shamedesu same for mina and graves, cool designs wasted on boring ass gameplay
Silver has more of a gameplay fantasy issue to me. They should have made her pacing and direction more like Overwatch's Ashe, where the ult is obviously a big temporary spike, but her regular gameplay also allows her to pump out damage if she hits her shots. I get why they made her ult something ur forced into due to her characterization, but it just feels ass gameplay wise, and honestly goes against the design of her base character which is a lever action weilding merc.Rn she's a gunzerker who the game forces to stop being a gunzerker almost every single engagement without control, that's just not fun.>>556240960Holy shit Alex Turner
>>556241381If you don’t find Drifter fun as fuck you may have terminal fag syndrome
>>556241245Not going to argue that Sinclair is well done or finished but the vintage magician mannequin fits DL pretty well. Yamato is an ayy lmao sci-fi samurai with a cone head. Sticks like a sore thumb while looking disgusting. Battleborn tier design.
>>556240706>>556240929>random victor>get as much spirit leech early as possible>walk over the enemy team
>>556240170don't think for one second you're better than me
>>556241245Sinclair just needs a new model, his design is very goodYamato doesn't fit in the game at all
>>556239114Go take a look at the leaderboard my melanated marvel player, nobody is clearing higher than 65% wr(15% impact btw)No child left behind has been disastrous for society
silver being a "hot mess" is all telling and not showingyou can tell vyper is a total fuck up from her voicelinessilver's voicelines are all very normal and "le cool girlboss" shit nothing indicating she is a screw up
>>556241381mina has incredibly high intensity gameplay though
>>556241504they ruined drifter's fun when they nerfed his teleport to be delayedIt was pure kino dodging spells with it. Anything fun people can do in deadlock they just nerf it until everyone feels the same to play
>>556241392Her gun objectively needs a buff but her 1 is very good. The problem is how to buff her, because if you give her more damage, her 1 ability will also become stronger.It looks like she will simply become niche high-skill character, which is possible in MOBA.
>>556241392i'm ok with the idea behind silver (adhd alcoholic who can't wait to transform and be done with it) but the execution is awfulher base feels more like a chore to get to the transformation and the latter isn't even that fun or interesting, you have a bite, a stupid tail swipe and a jump? she should play more like warwick from league with a blood meter, a terrify and an executioni hope she gets reworked because if they just buff numbers to buff her it's gonna be so sadshe is boring as fuck and her design is wasted on her
>>556241682Yeah I think it’s pretty universally agreed upon here that they flubbed her voice lines and made her sound too cool
>>556241682It's still perfectly evident in her conversationsShe just fronts better than Vyper, and that's part of her storytelling
>>556237432are Italian Latinix?that's new to meBecause im italian
This game in general has boring gameplay sadly. I think the cool characters who are a complete package are few. While LoL suffers from overcomplicating its kits this game has the opposite problem. You either get a character with a cool gun and shit kit or a character with a shit gun but cool kit. My favorite character is Vindicta and half of her kit is sucky still.
>>556241682she's participating in the ritual just to pay rent.she probably can't hold a job because she randomly goes feral all the time.
>>556241682Yea she's too full of and aware of herself in her voicelinesI think the voice actress tried to do a "stoic and apathetic" voice but it just comes across as confident or even arrogant.Her voice isn't bad but there's a very subtle difference between these things, I don't want her to be le sad and miserable chungus all the time but her delivery just needs a tiny bit of a tweak.
I'm going to ask you completely straight. How do I start the round in brawl? It's so intimidating, it's like opening in chess.Should I kill creeps? Should I run around the corner? Should I go and fight with melees? Should I be agressive? WHAT SHOULD I DO WHEN THE GAME STARTS?
>>556241821>>556241856who cares
Tfw no deadlock gf
>>556241879Technically an Italian American (as in literally the two continents) might be…?
>>556242037Me
>>556242017I've played enough and have the same problem. Sometimes I just run out to the center at the start of the match and the entire enemy team just jumps on me, and there are no allies in sight.
>>556241703i like her 2 and 3. her 1, gun and ult suckalso tired of vampires who do not bite>>556241504his gun is completely retarded and stupid looking and puts me off from ever giving a shit about him.
how the fuck am supposed to destroy grave's tomb if she camps around
>>556242267I play Abrams with cheat death and I just walk up to destroy it then leave
>>556242267Bait the parry, she will automatically F when you run up to it because everyone playing Graves is retarded
yeah man I love steam lvl 1 accounts with only deadlock in library cheating with ivy because infernus was banned and haze was picked
>>556242267if she camps its 5v6if she doesnt you get to destroy the tombstone for free and make her uselessits all timinggraves is only good if her team plays to her strengthimo an overrated hero in soloq
COOL characters with COOL kits: Paige!
What are you listening to while playing Deadlock
>>556242458Maybe on planet retard
>>556242535Ironmouse funk
>>556242535Unreal Tournament OST, The Last Shadow Puppets, A Perfect Circle.
FUCK YOU!!
>you hear a knock on the door>the government issued you an Ivy wife.What do
So now the game has a vampire girl and a werewolf girl, who is the male Bella?
>Turns Victor into Hitler
It's so sad that Valve has so many cute and fun and sexy designs and we're not getting any story. Just brawling. I'd love to learn about Silver's sex life, for example. I remember there was something like visual novel?
>>556242896Victor
>>556242896Me
So which heroes' designs are still obvious relics of when Deadlock was meant to be a sci-fi shooter?>ViscousFuturistic goo suit thing with an astronaut bubble helmet>Mo & KrillKrill was meant to be some kind of "goofy wacky lil' guy"-type of glup shitto alien>McGinnisHer abilities very clearly come from the sci-fi side of things. Her turrets look futuristic, her heal zone looks like something out of Halo or Apex Legends despite being called a "specter," her wall behaves like ferrofluid, her ult is missiles. They must have updated her model slightly(for example her missile launcher is a wooden barrel) to not look completely out of place but she's the most egregious one>Grey TalonHis futuristic-looking quiver is probably a leftover from whatever sci-fi archer he was originally>ParadoxNothing to say here, just look at her
>>556242896Pocket obviously, same wishy washy melodramatic attitude too
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=lash_ally_viper_killed_in_lane_02.mp3
>>556242896Pocket
>>556242017I hang on the sides and either take potshots or help my teammates when they start fighting, usually hanging back if everyone's taking it slow.If nobody is killing troopers I'll focus on that instead
>>556242896Victor, there's a reason why almost all the female cast lusts or is nice to him. Dude is a gigachad.
>>556242264the slight upward pop when you 1 someone while airborne combined with it being a pseudo-execute is so satisfying though
>>556242896Mina was both literally and figuratively going to suck Pocket dry
You know Mina 100% is a kegel-clencher
>>556242896Honestly, I have to give Valve credit for actually adding a female werewolf. Female vampires are nothing unusual, but I really can't remember any female werewolves in mainstream media.
i cant even play a game as silver literally 13 games in a row without priority token fucking waste of time waiting for the priority token to slowly regenerate
>>556242846>>556242909>worse paige 2>dynamo 1 if it was dogshit>extremely predictable autofarm>lash ult but shithe's not that good
Does spirit resist reduce victors self damage on the aura?
>>556243407>self-exposehis 3 isn't autofarm but rather a really fucking annoying splitpushing tool
The only thing I don’t like about Mina is her gun that looks stupid
>>556243419Yes or no, and they definitely changed how it works at some point. I can't say for sure, I don't play Victor because I'm not gay.
>>556243419It used to but now it's true damage
>witness somebody in my lobby getting frogged for first time ever>game immediately crashes and continues to whenever i reconnectdo cheats have some cpu fryer panic button or something
“Yeah the carry is feeding. The patron hates us. The noobs are leaving. The developers aren’t contacting us. We might be alone. It just might be you and me in lane.” But that’s okay. Because do you really need anyone else!?
>>556243519Im conflicted on how some say not yo build too much hp since his 1 charges on % of damage taken but if you take flat true damage on the 3 you want more hp right?
when did they remove the 4 lanes, and why? i thought that was pretty unique
>>556242909THEY'RE CUTE!!
>>556243678because even with 3 lanes the map is too big?
>>556243678Game was decided in the first 10 minutes by who gangs who
>>556243580>cuts to Vindicta quickscope montage
>>556243678>nooo you cant just leave your lane and gank someone with your ultimate early!! that's op!>what do you mean you left your solo lane uncontested? now mcginnis is killing our watcher!i miss it too but it was far from perfect
>>556243678Probably to make map design easier and its they probably weren't happy with the idea of solo lane. Also, does the player who only runs down 1 lane as ginnis still play the game?
They should have kept 4 lanes and made it 8 vs 8
>>556243678Entire game was decided by the solo lane matchup and it would pit weak early heroes against bruisers and lane gods
>>556243950they should have made it one giant lane but 12v12.
>>556243248Mina is a starfish in bed who expects the man to just pump away and cum with her laying there motionless contributing nothing but the beauty of her own flawless face and tight supple petite body existing on the end of his cock in order for him to cum (and she's right, that's more than enough).
>>556243632You want to get infuser or leech so you can drain people in your aura and then you spam jumpstart to stay alive
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>556243891>>556243678Also with it being so random in public games who ends up solo, sometimes it can be a total fuck fest if your team doesnt wanna swap you.
yep see that it's malding
>>556242896Victor is literally depressed male and the girls of the game find him hot.
>surrender would be LE BAD for the game!!!
>>556239756>>556239612>>556239537ivy has corinthian order pubes
>>556244406Doable with good macro
>>556244406Why can't you buy curse and play for your strengths? Like buy warp stone on dynamo and try to land a perfect black hole. It's hard, but possible.
Rem is so fucking fun, too bad I have a limited range of active items
>>556244379he's also the tallest fucker in game, is fit, kind and well spoken.
>>556244406>27minwinnable
>>556243341only one comes to mind>pic related
>>556244529he's also literally dead and made of multiple men
>>556244495someone mentioned scourge and i might replace it with one of my actives depending on match ups
>>556244531>>556244457it went poorly
Im this but with Billy
>>556244635I take scourge for melee heavy teams, I can't live without heroic aura. Seems like you gotta give up on healing actives and tempo fto make space for something else alongside barrier
>>556244542>troonthefaggotry>mainstream mediaThankfully it's not.
>>556244580the doctor had a stock of fit motherfucker to saw
>>556235864a payload mode instead
so when are they gonna make silver look, sound and talk in an anyhow interesting way?
This is the worst the matchmaking has ever felt
>>556244701i will take heroic aura out of all my builds till people understand or utilize it as i do. otherwise yeah its mandatory.
>>556239537If you don't think Mina has yet another bat motif hiding on her body you're an idiot.
>>556244749make her an alcoholic femme fatale
>>556244842I mostly take it for minions and the passive aura I'll be honest.
>>556244701tempo is permanent heroic that doesn't take up active space for wireless lane niggering though
>>556244979you can't reliably proc your heal like a dynamo would. Or you'd have to take another active like the healing nova.
stop crying about silver already u faggots jesusshes fine both design + gameplay
>>556244635scourge is a core item for rem
>>556244904i mainly use it to push with minions for objectives and for the team to push. but i REALLY buy for moments between 15-25min to convince at least 3 or more people to do mid, it usually is always successful run.
>>556245020i meant for minionsit makes them fast and shoot faster so they run up to walker faster
Does anyone have the timer for the sin machines?>>556245058for me it's torment pulse >>556245093I mean, aura does it too alongside a sweet permanent 15 bullet resist. I feel like it's more consistent but I can see your point
>>556245165pops at 8 min and idk the timing after that
>>556244868she's already an alcoholic, but she doesnt look nor sound the parttbf an alcoholic femme fatale does sound interesting (especially with the characterization possibilities that her werewolf form offers), especially compared to her current schtick of being a temu vyper>>556245024no, she's not. she's fucking horrendous. she's chinkslop-tier bad.
>>556245210thank you, it's impressive how smooth his farming is. Also late game pillows being stuffed with bricks are fun. I do wonder if you all take rapid recharge
>>556245058im seeing it and which is why im brooling in my mind what to take out, it probably is echo shard. divine, echo, nova, heroic as my actives. really want to take out heoric
>port the item shop from mobas as a way to gatekeep base kits from being obnoxiously powerful and allow player expression via letting them build a singular character in wildly different ways>rework the shop and itemization power in a way that most characters will only really ever have one (1) viable build>refuse to create kits that take advantage of the power sidetrack the shop offers; instead develop them with the mentality of a shooter firstI don't understand. Can anyone explain to me why they did it like this?
>>556245296Just get extra charge, since I think the cooldown boost reduces the charge cd too
Not a single character for extremely high iq individuals like myself. When do they add Techies
>>556245347Because they're experimenting
>>556245307i would take out nova it's dogshit
>>556245296i just buy extra charge in lanebuy trophy pre 8 minutes then just walk around new york for 20 minutesit's a fun gameplay loop
>>556245296i think its nice but mid game and after i am hardly shooting enough and they get recharged fast enough while tagging along. always fun to pop out of someone and throw a pillow. i once had to put a follower on multiple minions and jump between them to escape with tag along
>>556243580kek
>>556244474Because he genuinely cannot extract any enjoyment from a game besides winning, or stomping somone, soulless creature, probably a ginger or a woman
>>556241879that's just argentinians buddy
>>556245512im usually landing 7k-9k healing with it in 30 minute games, its pretty okay for a fart
>>556245292my issue is that now that she's released, they orbably wont touch her for a while so we're stuck with diet vyper for a while, which I fucking hate because werewolves are awesome. I just hope someone wakes up at Valve and realize what they wasted and decide to fix it.
Game is kind of doomed with this type of players
had a fun graves game :3
>Guys guys look there's a retard on Twitter/Discord/Reddit being retarded, I can't believe I found trash in the landfill! Look at it and get mad please!
>>556240585>combo the carry instead of the Paige>Paige then barriers, divine barriers, ults, and rescue beams the carry>they both survive the gankYou always have to kill the Io before trying to kill the Gyro m8.
>>556245884>graves silver victorwow shocking
>>556245884Most Graves games are fun, because you can dont worry about aiming and actually play the game
is Rem secretly sinclair tier IQ required to play
>>556245875>playersthese "people" don't play the game.now stop posting this shit, kindly.
>556245875don't care about the gay people you follow on xitterleave and stay with them, faggot
>>556245991What this anon says, their death timer is longer than combos cooldown
>>556246034hopefully celeste is both fun and good too just like graves
Did Silver's winrate drop below 40 yet
What the hell is paradox's deal?
>>556246253How did Valve fuck up so hard?
>>556243407*blocks youre path*
>>556246296>tales from Seeker
>>556246276Worse bebop. Any other opinion is cope from people obsessed with tranny streamers.
genuinely cannot believe fucking OVERWATCH did the transformation character that turns into melee better with RammattraAND HE'S FUCKING BLOCKSLOP HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS BAD???
>>556246276Paradox jumped through a rift just as the Neon Prime universe was being torn apart. Her wish from the Patron is to make it so the cursed apple was never conceptualized.
>>556246106Its so fucking funny reading people in here freak out over gay shit when I play the game every day and 99% of people on mic are men and I've never heard anyone trying to pass off as a woman.The most annoying retards in game have actually been poltards bringing up politics when everyone else is trying to play. I had a retard and his gay friend rambling about Israel secret soldiers or some shit for 5 minutes straight the other day before I just muted their ass.
>>556246373whats a blockslop
>>556245520I still think trophy is a scam
>Graves nerfed>Still can't get Graves>Rem buffed and Silver is brand new>no problems getting themJailbait is strong...
>>556245506shouldn't they be going the opposite way, and trying wildly new different approach rather than this pussyfooting around the thing people found fun about dota, then?
>>556246276She's supposed to be a support/damage hybrid with a high skill floor but honestly she just fucking sucks compared to the low skill floor alternatives.
>>556246520Same, also juggernaut makes people mald hard
>>556246276got nerfed into irrelevancy and pros don't seem to mind
>>556245875idk this guy just kinda slaps whatever on whatever as a shitpost.
>>556246373I don’t play nuOW what’s he like?
>>556246340archon
>>556246760M-masaka...
>>556246467there's several tanks in overwatch where you have one toggable ability that makes you cross your arms and recieve damage resistance across the boardrammattra's brawler form has it with no cooldown so it has happened several times now that the balance was so putrid the meta was pop his ult (aoe damage on a timer) and just block. at some point this was bad enough you could have to rammatras staring at eachother doing fuckall but blocking for 20 seconds straightyet somehow he's a more cohesive and fun design than silver currently. i do not understand.
Why did they buff Rem's 3? He didn't need it lol.
>>556245545>i once had to put a follower on multiple minions and jump between them to escape with tag alongwait so THAT's what allows you to nap on creeps?
>>556234984lol this is me, I exclusively play spirit/melee Haze when I get her. It's a really fun build with a unique playstyle and I get to deny Haze from the enemy team without succumbing to being a glue eating gun Haze turboricer so it's cool. Most games where I get whiners like you I still hard carry and get top dmg + kills anyways because the Spirit damage is broken as fuck. I'd post some clips if I were home but you shouldn't knock it until you try it
>>556246798Well what’s the part about him that’s fun and cohesive
>>556246525Graves is funREM can be funSilver is not fun
>make Silver a femme fatale werewolf>make her tease/lust for 90% of the male cast>reveal more info about her when she interacts with other bounty hunter / legendary hunter like gray talon>makes her laugh at Mina (mandatory)>give her a hat (mandatory)>Keep bloodlust, but bloodlust charges up when she takes damage>human ability / heals reduce the bloodlust>wolf become the tank / bruiser, meant to melee and outlast enemy>human is meant to favor the bounty hunter side where she's nimble, fast and deal a lot of burst damageValve would never.
>>556246648I love juggernaut
>>556246756here. i've played my fair bit of overwatch and honestly i'm surprised they managed to pull off the transformation character as decently as they did, with their history of balance this shit would've been a disaster easily
>>556246738yjk Bebop sleeves Rem after hooking him
>>556246798you are retarded, of course you don't understand
>>556246295Certified Hotpoo design. He didn't confirm it but I can just feel it in my bones. Dude lost the sauce inbetween RoR 1 and 2.>>556246812Unlike SHITver, Rem's lower winrate is because people don't understand him. They buff his 3 so that people realize how broken it is, after it becomes too oppressive they will nerf it.
>>556246520even in archon 4 (oracle 6 games for some reason) games regularly last 30+ minutes so I'm usually second most souls next to the haze victor while having done zero actual jungle >>556246814putting one on a trooper does a burst healthen jumping does a burst heal again you can make people waste 2 mags trying to kill one trooper it's so funny
>>556239537vindicta fixednow move mina down a tier
I've been having fun with Silver in Street Brawl but haven't tried her in Standard yet. Is she significantly worse there, or what?
>>556246975Is your issue not being able to transform on demand?
>>556247120She has the worst laning in the game and will get bullied constantly
>>556247083He's like a reverse Graves w his macro play, its just the avg person is a Rivals player and doesn't understand wave management. I was already using 3s on waves for free souls and generating pressure.
>>556247120Laning phase feels awful, if you go against a lane terrorist like Mina you’ll want to ventilate your skull
>>556246934well for one both forms feel fun to use rather than having one be complete garbage (the one you spend 90% of the game as with silver)one is better for picks and distance defense and the other is better for close up engagements. both forms share a singular ability that slows and pulls down airborn enemies, and both forms have a way of blocking incoming damage (regular form has you use a barrier, meaning you can still attack but it's on cooldown, but nemesis form has you block damage yourself instead, making you not able to do much else). So since you're not forced to transform like Silver is you're instead incentivized into keeping your distance and popping nemesis form once you want to engage or the enemy closes in, meaning you actually get to use both forms during the match. Then his ult is nemesis form but with the aoe damage previously mentioned, so it actually does feel like a power up rather than just a different ability despite being able to change forms at will.
>>556247096Why would I do that? I'd sooner put Graves in "no pubic hair" for the meme and even considered it because she's like 17 at the oldest and could maybe be fucked up hormonally from anemia or something. Mina's a teenager but she's still a fully formed adult. Unless you're suggesting vampirism caused her to lose her pubic hair.
>>556247351I’m suggesting that
>>556247120Imagine laning where you have to confirm every trooper with melee because you shoot once every 3 seconds
>>556247139nah that's fine imo, the issue i have is her human form feeling like shit and her wolf form feeling underwhelming if the enemy has any neurons and keeps their distance (or buys counter items lmfao get disarmed for 50% of your ult retard)
>>556247120she probably has the worst macro in the entire game because she's slow, has low stamina, low damage, no aoe, a dogshit gun that does no damage and fires so slow it's impossible to deny/confirm souls and the form that actually does damage is unavailable outside broolingon top of all that if she falls behind (this can't happen in street brool so she's slightly better) then she deals so little damage that it's almost impossible to get that initial damage to transform without getting raped to death first
Updated gay sex list after some recent ingame interactions>Mirage earned some higher placement>Dynamo demoted>Lash promoted because of a recent string of Lash players
>typical hero's toolkit>aoe damage or slow>dash>stun or passive>aoe ultimatei've been told this game has a lot of unique skills. i've been lied to. i like the gun variety though, wish shooting anyone MATTERED and everyone wasn't a BULLET SPONGE!
>>556247120Heavily dependent on your partner to get started.If you don't support them while they are carrying your ass then you're basically a free soul farm
>>556247428I think her gun should just be better desu, it’s supposed to be this big heavy shotty with low mag but you’re practically tickling people. Meanwhile cunts with a peashooter melt you down
>>556246106sadly they do, otherwise silver woudln't beat venator in the polls
>>556246537Not necessarily because this isn't dota nor a pure moba, it's a fusion of the moba and hero shooter genres and they're trying to mix what they think are the best aspects of both into something cohesive and fun.
>>556247480So now we're lying
I keep thinking sevens cheek holes are his eyes
>>556247050you somehow are worse at explaining your thoughts than the retard playing overwatchthink about that for a second
>8:30>check double sinners>already stolen by remsurely an 1600 worth of souls stolen for free is totally fair
>play sinclair ult build>get refresher>shit out three graves tombstonesi love sinclair so much
>>556247741If somebody was there at 8:00 they would've already taken them too.
>>556247480LoL does it as well to standardize characters and make it easier to learn new onesPoke/Hook on QStun/AoE damage on WDash on E
>>556247426>>556247120people say a true melee hero can't happen because laning would be dogshit then icefrog comes out with silver and she has to do this shitit's hilarious honestly
>>556247741if you are playing against rem you go in there early to rape his boyhole while he's alone
>>556247779Sinclair needs to have his own style on the ults like Rubicon, the Graves should spawn headless assistants and she should get pissed when you use it
>>556247601>this isn't dotathis shit is just dota 3 let's be real nowsaying it's a hero shooter is so off the mark it's unreal, it is a moba first and before all
What's the difference between heavy melee and fast melee on sinners?
>>556240960Shiv>looks like a greaser>sounds like tom waits>physiognomy of a denisovan>groomed by an apache>forgets he gots hurt, simply ignores it>gets so angry he'll do something twice>slam dunks people across a room>gets laid>carries a jacket but never wears it>chose a wooden arm simply for styleIts a shame he infuriates me in game because he's such an eclectic mishmash of bullshit that it would be awesome to see him fleshed out
>>5562479524 buffs on heavy
>>556247480we're a minority but there's been a lot of people in this general complaining about how so many heroes have aoe and dash slop integrated into their kits as filler abilities for years nowthe devs and community at large however don't seem to care so we'll just getting more dogshit designs like paige instead
>>556247946If this game was DOTA3 it'd be dead
So is the Baroness a place purely to torture people, or is it also half an actual hotel alongside that? Doorman seems genuinely sincere when offering relaxation to the more good-natured characters. Plus the Baxster Society seems to have helped him with the hotel before.>>556247967>>sounds like tom waitsI hadn't even realized that until you mentioned it. kek
rem is unkillable after min ~20
>>556248108it isn't dead simply because the community at large hasn't realized this yet, they get dazzled by the new heroes then leave once they realize the game is, in fact, a moba (like it has happened before)watch the player numbers drop down to below 50k again a month or two after we get the last hero of this batch, the shit player retention isn't just because there aren't funny cosmetics to grind.
>>556248204The doorman is tim curry from home alone 2 but an actual threat if you piss him offAnd yeah the tom waits voice is hilarious once you realize it, I listened to this the other day and somehow I can totally see shiv yodelling it while wastedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRwrMxzOV4g
>>556248007Plus you complete it faster with heavy melee
>>556247553i feel the same way too but the fact that it intentionally released her like this means they tested it on the super duper secret build and thought this was the best way for her to be, which is fucking stupid because she feels like ass to use for most of the match right now.
>>556248204it's a regular hotel that's also haunted by ghosts (a selling point, apparently)and also you might get wrongwarped into the backrooms by a weird bellboy maybe
>>556244406I feel like with how strong comeback souls are this can only happen with people who do zero farming whatsoever which is impressive 2bh because almost everything gives souls
>>556248204The Baroness is a legit hotel, the hallway I send you into is a pocket dimension within the hotel meant to torture people.Multiple characters mention having a pleasant time at The Baroness, and how it hasa great brunch. You should check in sometime, we'd love to have you.
welp haze is still cancerous
>>556248204I think it’s entirely a real hotel he works at and the “Baroness” Brian sends you to is some pocket dimension torture zone
How would you rework silver to make her more interesting?
>>556248474nerf sustainmake a stun after hitting a direct lunge while in dog form
>>556248390
>>556245347>only one viable build>gun heroes scale very well with spirit>spirit heroes have good or unique gunsI can play 3 different builds minimum with every hero. Worst one is mirage but you can still choose between gun damage, mark damage, or just staying alive longer than the enemy.
>>556248474Better gun damageBola disarms at tier 2
>>556248589kek
Who are you banning in normal games? I have a hard time deciding. I think the most cancerous type of character I can think of is an expertly played Pocket but that happens so rarely + low pickrate I'm just wasting a ban vote.Another obvious choice is Bebop because for some reason if I'm not laning against him my teammates will let him have 500 stacks on his bombs by the time laning phase his over. Haze is also a contender if the person playing her remembers to buy Unstoppable.
>>556248474Give her ult another ult that makes her even bigger after farming bloodlust in her ult
>>556248614what about yamato, gun yamato kinda dead after they removed the heavy melee cancel thing
>>556248474Remove automatic werewolf, nerf it slightly to make up for it, buff her human form in basically every way, give her 3 stamina.
>>556248204Grey Talon is on amicable terms with the Doorman. If it passes the Baxter Society's check I guess it's fine. Remember the Doorman is almost a patreon level entity who just got bored and decided to be a servant for a bit because why not sex with the doorman
>>556248474it'd take way too much work but i'd just let her be able to transform at will and have both forms be viable on their own. that way you could have chuds that want to play as the wolfgirl gunslinger and the ones that want to be the brawly wolf both happy and she's still unique since she has both stances at onceyou'd have to nerf a lot of the wolf for it to work, maybe swap a few abilities, reduce the model size, make her base gun not complete dogshit, but it'd still be more fun and allow for a genuinely more wide arrange of builds than she could currently ever have.and before anyone says>BUT MUH WEREWOLVES DON'T WORK LIKE THAT!!! IT'S A CURSE!!!!it's supposed to be a fucking lunar eclipse happening honestly who the fuck cares at this point
>>556248704Haze
Anyone complaining about silver being bad/unintersting is literally a brain dead gooner stuck in alchemist.
>>556245347Build variety went up when they did the rework. You were just a brainlet back then and thought everything worked and now your a metaslave who thinks a build thats -2% less effective is unplayable
>>556248765I like the idea that she can be played either human or melee and not whatever they fuck they're doing with her now.
>>556248713>kinda deadi don't believe thatgun talon was dead until people starting running him gun and now he's a glass cannon menace 3/4 times
I will stand by the wolf form being uncontrollable, pic rel me dying on this hill
>>556248925with how powerful she is, it's a good thing just like Gnar
When is graves getting nerfed again. Or at least when can I ban her? She is actually just fucking female victor this is so bad.
slowing bullets on graves?
>>556247967i hope they flesh out his "reformed monster who escaped his past" part of the characterpersonally i think haze would also make for a cool ex-monster who became fully engrained into the state control system (out of her own violition)
>>556248925I would too if the werewolf form was more interesting
when are they fixing soul orbs getting stuck on the bridge
>>556248749i think everyone thinks doorman is just a weirdly sadistic guy with a strangely high mana statthe only voiceline that knows who is he is is one mina voicelinehttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=vampirebat_kill_doorman_04.mp3
>>556248614>Worst one is miragemina has likeone build
my favorite character is seven because everyone else is a slave to the state
>>556234546>an army of people who you could be similar to>an army of people who you could be friends with>an army of people who will upvote your posts>an army of people who be your personal army>an army of people who will erp with youAll for a cost
>>556248204valve devs say gamers never look up...
two types of rem playersfirst:>I can heal and use my sleep to i-frame. My pillow does decent damage, and my helpers can splitpush. My ult is great for counter-initiationsecond, majority of rem players:>ugh...free sinner's sacrifice? Mystic reverb double pillow hurrr (we already have Bebop doing that) oh fuck we lost
>>556247712you can't understand a sentece that was straight to the point? damn, no wonder you are as retarded as that other idiot
>>556239263chuds are the 2010s danger hair girls desu.
>>556249153how much rape do you think goes down in there
>>556247380He's probably sleepy because of the anti-psychotics they're giving him.
When this game gets ads they should make one that's just Doorman shilling The Baroness
>>556248413>>556248390The baroness is right in the sandbox behind the guardian
>Silver's human form is so shit that you spend pretty much all your souls on buying bandaid fix items>you rarely if ever get cooldown reduction or ability duration
>>556249072fucking based Mina being the solitary KNOWERshe's not an airhead
>>556248614this nigga unironically running gun lash what the FUCKi run green lash unironically but i'm not out here pretending it's a viable build come the fuck on dude
>>556249191>sentece
So much animosity for the new heroes. We didn't see this for the last batch aside from Paige. It's over.
>>556249175forgot aimlets building gun due to the auto headshot.
>>556248348Good taste. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brVbfzTHods
>>556249090the walking masquerade violation is dabbing on two forms of government at once though
>>556249072>>556249353how the fuck does she KNOW
>>556248897i used to build melee lash and be able to build spirit lash toonow i either ult bot or i'm throwing
>>556249451She’s just like that
>>556249451probably fucked a 1000 year old vampire and stole his diary
>>556249434but seven is actually doing something
>>556249080Mo is actually the worst, completely solved hero. Statlocker has him with 3 builds but check the leaderboard and its the same thing on everyday. I hope they shake it up because I used to genuinely like playing him but a man can only rush qsr so many times
>>556249175mystic reverb feels like a meme but echo shard pillow is great because hitting pillows reduces your other cooldowns
>>556249191esl nigger
What if lash accidentally anal vored his target during a ground strike
silver's ult only fills up when you do damage to heroes and it also fills up when you take damage yourself, but nowhere in the description does it state any of this.
I wanted Silver's gun to be good so bad. Lever-action guns are so satisfying, and it sounds great too. I want more viable guns that aren't fully automatic.
>>556249451Her personality seems one dimensional but there are hints that shes actually super insecure too. Likely very intelligent but won't let you know, some people hide it very well.
>>556249610or you just buy transcd and also have your scourge knockdown heroic curse on faster cds
I saw someone say that Rem has realistic dialogue for a child and I'm just dumbfounded at how some people can go through life without interacting with an actual kid
>>556249682She’s likely very shrewd, wasn’t it practically her idea to marry Arin?
>>556249627God damn it Vyper go back to Fox River or Azakaban or whatever jail you slithered out of
>>556249682i like her maniacal laughing when she's low and ulting
>>556249353Mina being an airhead is basically fan canon, people think so because she wants high status but is a low level vampire, but that doesn't make her dumb, she's a sneaky bitch socializing her way up in society.
>>556249682the way she talks when her allies die also makes it seem like she cares about them, all that probably means she's not such a bitch after allI wonder if she actually cared for Pocket deep down too
>>556248474Right now her design is a mess. She’s an an anxious alcoholic but dislikes rampaging and is a (shitty) bounty hunter? Her abilities don’t reflect that. I would keep her gun but increase the fire rate and bullets and she recoils back when she shoots it, I would make her 1 a reload but she switches to long range slugs and focuses her aim, her 2 is ok but I would make it more feral and be able to grapple to walls with her transformed left hand, 3 is pretty fucking boring desu also why doesn’t she uses the handcuffs? I would give her a drink ability that delayed her transformation and buffs her or somethingTransformation is still automatic but happens when you take damage instead so it helps the reckless archetype. Her ult passive basically drifter’s she gets increased movement speed towards enemies and can smell prey in a certain radius, would make her 1 a jump+bite that marks and give increased lifesteal to the target, 2 a howl that taunts and increases her defenses, her 3 a body slam that does increased damage and stun against a wall
Why is this thread so alive? What is it about valve games (even dead ones) that makes online autists be obsessed over them?
>>556249780i absolutely hate kids and actively avoid em at family events etc, smug little assholes
>>556249471That has nothing to do with the rework tho, id argue his spirit build got better with the 4.8k spirit jump. Nobody ever played melee lash ever so I think you just ranked up out of that one
>>556249934Yeah, Rem needs to be 2000% more infuriating to be realistic
>>556249903it's called KINO, anon-kun
>>556249858https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=vampirebat_ally_synth_pass_on_zipline_01.mp3this might be what one calls tsundere
>>556249903There are no autists here, just video game enjoyers.>>556249934Dusty old bones full of green dust!>>556249995Ludo actually
>>556249780The truth is I'm a bit of a pedophobe.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FH8HqKBuwfg
>>556249874>let's just give her other characters' exact abilities
>>556249994this lmao
Matchmaking has never been this bad
>>556250082Well drifter is another character that is shitty and needs a rework tb h
>>556249694yeah obviously you get t4 cd first but as far as late items go it's okay>>556249903this game ain't dead retard it literally just got a huge update like 2 weeks ago
>>556250007My wife would never love a they/them
>>556250193yeah I could get matched with a graves player that loses
>>556248474change her one to a ground slam that does damage based on heighther 2 to a mini majestic leap her 3 to a big tail whip forwards that does life stealher ult to be a channeled grab that lets you throw people
>>556250007Do these lines even happen anymore
>>556250264kek shitlow anon btfo
The balance of this game gets worse every single day. I hate graves so much. I hate rem. I hate geist.
>>556250193>sample size:10Im a pro coin flipper and let me tell you that 8+ streaks in either direction are surprisingly common. Call me when you get 14
>>556250193>Losing with Graves
>>556249858THis is why people that say shes a gold digger/whore are retard takes. Shes already rich, and is a tease but I doubt shes like vyper or silver
>>556249903Troons seem to be obsessed with everything Valve shits outTruly a mystery
>>556250193>shitlow anon losing with graves againwatch, he's gonna post another essay on how graves requires skill soon.
>>556250396Should tell you how bad the matchmaking is that someone is capable to losing with the autopilot character
>>556250264>>556250396sinclair does it again!
>>556248371She's the least worked on out of the new heroes, to the point that devs weren't even sure about releasing her this update. Notice how her human animation are 60% seven's and her werewolf animations are 80% drifter'sOf the new heroesshe's the most likely to receive big changes if not a complete rework
>>556250193It's fine
>>556249620that's what you are? damn i feel sorry for you, esl nigger
Silver's release has been a blessing. Now I can throw games while looking legit so I don't get reported, that way I can settle back to low ritualist and enjoy my whacky builds like speedmaxxing Mo&Krill, Punch Mirage, Veil Walker Magic Carpet Drifter...
>>556250353>Brool
>>556249903depends on the game reallyhalf life fans are perpetually on a copium overdose because they got tricked when they were young into believing the games were anything but a tech demo past the original and that valve definitely has a plan for the story (they never did)l4d fans are all autistic compsweats that (understandably) realize l4d is still the best pve game out there 20 fucking years after releasetf2 fans are autists that refuse to let go of a game that has been completely and utterly destroyed by a company that does not care using it as a shell for the worst the live service model can offer, also made this way due to them getting it from a very young ageportal fans are redditors that unironically want a sequel for a completely concluded story and setting not realizing how bad this actually is, and that also not realize how 2 ruined the entire tone of the setting for the sake of comedy and levity, while at the same time being OBSSESED over the epic lore and deep story (it isn't) much like hl fansdotards are mentally ill (and maybe too poor to play any other type of game). yes, ALL of them.csgo is for normies and people that want to make money in esportsdeadlock's fanbase is a combination of dotards and the esport aspects of csgo, wrapped in the cosmetic design of an overwatch hero shooter, meaning it'll attract the worst of the fucking worst.
>>556248474make her transformation clear all debuffs and also build up when you get CC'd because if it was also from taking damage it'd be boring
Did they make Haze's ass bigger
>>556250504NTA butgraves requires more macro and positioning to excel compared to most other characters. it's not harder or easier than other characters, just a different skillset to emphasize.
>>556250741it seems like it, I don't like it doesn't fit her personality and I don't think ass is very visible with her style of pants anyway.
>>556250540I manage to carry with mid-tier characters by just communicating and leading the team. Sounds like a skill issue.
>>556249963you might not remember this but the rework came along with several nerfs to melee in order to make melee shiv not busted and make the new melee items more viable. add to this that now that most items don't get extra stats you NEED to buy certain items for stats, you can't just buy an item for the utility it brings like before. You can't buy colossus for the melee damage anymore, you can't build green and still have decent gun damage.>Nobody ever played melee lash ever you have ecelebs that made their entire brand around being the melee lash guy early on, why lie like this?
>>556249682>shes actually super insecure >Likely very intelligent but won't let you knowThis is like asian-american kids 101. Add a good amount of seething racism and you get your average cali korean egirl.
>>556250428She is in modern terms a CLOUT CHASER.And she's probably the furthest thing away from a whore in canon. She thinks highly of herself or at least believes highly in what she should have and is entitled to and wants to make everyone else recognize that she was right when she reaches the position at the top she believes she deserves.
Really if they just made Silver's gun in human form marginally better she'd feel so much better to playJust give her an alt fire where she can fire a second round faster
>farming will never get you as many souls as snowball killing teams so coming back from a large lead is literally impossible
There's a flaw in the voting system, the next three heroes are going to be in order, Venator, Celeste, and Apollo, so why the fuck would anyone bother voting?
>>556250630she'll recieve a lot of big changes but you can bet your ass she won't get any sort of rework, at least not until they start doing that for other heroes in the roster as well. i've said it before but if they're just gonna keep shiv's current kit as is you genuinely cannot expect in any seriousness any rework to any other hero.
>>556251212apollo's coming before celeste
>>556248474I would design her like this:Base: silly, competent, designed to be the character you spend most of the time playing until late gameTransformation: scary, harder to get into, activation not controllable by you, but VERY strong, the strongest duelist in the game basically Right now her base is just a glorified meter for your transformation so it has to be weak and boring
>>556251147stop clicking eyes and run urn you retard
>>556249780people will say the wildest shit about valve's writing, doesn't matter if it's true or not
>>556251312how do you run urn into a 5 man stack sitting on it
>>556251225Wouldn't she be a prime candidate for a rework BECAUSE she's so unpolished? i.e nothing is set in stone?
>>556251016I wouldn't call her a clout chaser. She has a line where she goes something like "my mom would say I'm lowering myself to their level but fuck her". That doesn't sound like clout chasing and more like wanting to succeed on your own and carve your own path type of mentality.
>>556251379if there's 5 retards waitubg on urnthenyou just got a gree walkerif your team can't take that opportubity then you didn't lose because of souls you lost because you and your team are literal mouthbreathers
>>556251404in an ideal world, yes. but think about this; how many reworks did you see them give to shiv?they're just gonna change her numbers and not touch her actual kit at all, at least for the next year and a half. probably more.
What's up with some of this millenial dialogue from Graves saying 90% of humanity would be better off replaced by cats or Holliday saying she should get her tubes tied?
>pick graves>literal first buy is refresher>max ult>tell team to give man push a lane>place two tombstones in one lane>join to push walker down>do this two more times>win gamethis isn't fun
>>556251557You can buy other items you know
>>556251551Fucking up who's essentially the poster girl of the patch is hilariously stupid of them.
>>556249378Victor was and is still cancer.
>>556250007>puts 4 heroic aura'd healing tempo'd chudlings on the lane your tombstones are atthanks for the free +22 souls for my entire team
>>556251638mmm nyo... nyo..
Wall max graves is pretty fun then slap an echo shard on it
>>556251786>>556251557damn, i clicked on the wrong post
>>556249378victor is genuinely one of the worst hero designs i've ever seen and i say this as a victor main. completely unbalanceablei find funny that people think they can't try new, unique hero kits because they'd be a balance disaster when shit like him and shiv are in the game
>251556>ai slopidk you can kill yourself
>>556247480>average val agentmolly/drone, flash/stun, wall/dome smoke>average r6 operatordrone, anti-gadget, trap, breacher>average marvel rivals herodash, shield, aoe ult that makes your entire team invincible for 30 secondsall hero shooters do this, you find the few archetypes that have proven to work best for your vision of the game and then stick to those archetypes as a guideline for every new character until end of service
>>556250905Idk what eceleb you are talking about. Regardless I literally did a count of builds before and after because this sentiment was so common and I was getting gaslit
>>556251556>What's up with some of this millenial dialogue from Graves saying 90% of humanity would be better off replaced by catschud confirmed?
>>556251786why the fuck did tumblr ban porn should've been a containment site forever
>>556252006She has armpit hair btw
>>556252070Most people do
>>556251890why would you echo shard on wall when you can echo shard on jar for permanent skull uptime and back-to-back skull spawns?>>556252070are her pubes gray like her fur or blonde like her hair?
>>556252049>why the fuck did tumblr ban pornThe demands of advertisers and investors
>>556251991skeletonhoney
>>556252127>spawn skulls>enemy presses q>6400 souls down the drainif they're too busy to deal with the skulls you aren't gonna need echo shard for them anyways
I know brawl is the mode where the points don't matter and we don't know who's line it is but holy fuck how do you even get stats like this. you can get more than 4k damage with arthritis aim
>>556252363Throw the jars behind them, sempai
>>556252445same result will followthe wall unironically cucks 50% of the cast and basically makes them a free kill
>>556248091>we're a minorityyes, you two are gay niggers
>It's another "teammate doesn't know about sliding so they spend the entire game playing reload simulator on a high firerate gun" episode
>>556252612That abrams looks really gay
>>556252437>how do you even get stats like thisBy playing Silver
>Graves is basically braindead and requires no effort>Doesn't have a single counterplay item>Silver requires a lot of effort>Half the items in the shop just shut her downThey should make shit like torment pulse hit skulls
>>556252676Hillary lost.
>>556252127Because the wall does something and the skulls are free souls for the other team
>>556249354lash with 3 gun slot items is goodballistic is a good item on flog
The vertical range on graves wall is deceptively high
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines/?quick=multikillhow come shiv is the only one where characters suck his dick for getting a multikill?
>>556252612I only found out about sliding giving infinite ammo after 60 hours of playtime
>>556252612Sliding for infinite ammo is annoying and gay in fairness. Needing to do it to actually shoot your gun is kind of shitty.
>>556252676Shut it humie
>>556252857>3 gun slotthat's not a gun build cmon noweven victor can have that
>>556252858They should make it activate only when you touch the ground so it is possible to jump over it without wasting stamina. Right now you can just throw this shit in the middle of a fight and guarantee a couple of hits.
>>556252929Especially since the default button for it is ctrl, aka enjoy breaking your pinkie if you don't change the input (I put it to a side mouse button)
>>556252790>Doesn't have a single counterplay itemHurricane Pike item that pushes you and a target away in opposite directions when?
>>556252887Because his max ult is made for multikilling
>>556252981it's a different build than running 9-10 purples with a couple of greens, which is what most do
>>556252887>Grey Talon: "Perfection."kino
Why would a super gun carry like vyper want to make enemies immune to her?
>>556253158you can still build the effects like venom or toxic bullets up
>>556253062sure but that doesn't make other characters getting multikills impossible or less impressive, no?
>>556253060another item that hard-counters silver
>>556253025This game obliterates your hands if you don't rebind the inputs, the default is terrible.
I think my only problem with Silver after playing her a lot is that Bolas is undertuned, especially when unleveled. 20% movement slow for 1.5 seconds? Really?
I don't get why people hate Shiv so much. I rarely see him.
Been a WASD user my entire life. I'm seriously considering switching to ESDF for Deadlock alone.
Silver's va sounds familiar, I can't put my finger on it>>556252887Same for Talon shooting, everyone compliments his archery skills like Dynamo
>>556253269I think they are meant to be used after your 2 to make an easy slam fire stack
>>556253301why? just put one of the items on your 4th/5th mouse buttons
>>556253301ESDF is gay and stupid, RAGE is the optimal movement setup
>>556253301??????????????????????????
>>556253285because people ban him
>>556247480Remember to spend your souls on items anon
>>556253269it also shuts down stamina use, jumping and movement abilities so it's actually a really good effectissue is that it lasts for less than 2 seconds, deals dogshit damage and is hard to land even ignoring skill issues because creeps eat the projectile 99% of the time
>>556253285The moments you do find Shiv players, you won't even know how you lost all of your health and die
>Sinclair always in werewolf form
>>556252887https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines/?quick=multi_killSeven has too
>2 hours banIt was absolutely worth quitting that game. I'll go play something else and relax.By the way, I thought the bans here would be less aggressive. The first time I quit I got a 5-minute ban and I got a 2-hour ban right away the second time.>>556253269The first level of talent is basically mandatory and it exists solely so that you can hit your 1 and 2. Usually it should leave your enemy almost dead and you in wolf form.>>556253369I find it much more logical to start with 3, go to 1, and end with 2. Hitting with all three shots is much more important, and spirit damage from 2 is not affected by range so you can finish it off when the enemy runs away.
Allow the grave to be targeted by gap close skills and moved with displacement skills
>character came out YESTERDAY>retards here already brainstorming a rework
>>556251556>Graves saying 90% of humanity would be better off replaced by catsShes right tho
>>556253678bans scale, your third ban is something like 12-24 hour ban and you also get put into low priority queue that you have to win a game to get out of
How the fuck do you even get banned? I talk mad shit all the time yet nothing ever happens.>I DCJust AFK and jump around it spawn, retard.
>>556243891No he got banned iirc. But I picked up his mantle and did it for like 30 games in a row afterwards.
alright guys DNS soonwho you got winning NAwill it be the challenger, BWC, or melee creeps for the 14th time
>>556253946>esports slopFuck off.
>>556253946Nobody cares
>>556253747You don't need to be a genius to see that she needs work
>>556253946where does our guy metro play??
>>556253946go back to assfaggot
>>556254061At his home I imagine.
>>556253745I really can't imagine how to make this fucking tombstone not so awful to play against. Even if you make it vulnerable to bullets, she'll just put it in one of the rooms and wait to parry and put up her fucking wall. It's such asshole combination of abilities that whoever came up with it definitely has a place reserved for them in hell.>>556253856I know, but 5 minutes to 2 hours is a bit much. Especially considering that I played about 20 matches between leaving. I wonder if it's possible to play these low-priority matches in a brawl, or if you have to play in normal mode.
>>556254061What's your favorite Metro rage?
>>556243407>Can heal the entire team and be untouchable while amping his actives to the fucking moon>Mid damage and debuff projectile that lowers ALL of your cooldowns by 4 seconds, including your disgutingly overpowered ult>Pushes 3 on every trooper in a wave and leaves to take boxes and sinners while the souls taken by his empowered troopers is spread across his entire team>Has almost exclusive access to a large number of boxes in his funny tunnels where he gets a speedboost, cannot be seen, and cannot be attacked (because nobody else who can access the area can deal damage while in there)
>>556253587
>>556254123i love it when he jumps in 3 people then complains that no one is around him
>>556253946this game's esport scene somehow feels more artificial than blizzard's
>>556254009no, you need to be a retard to think she needs thatretard
>>556253946My bets are on no one because I'm not watching that shit hahahaha
>>556253946
>>556253269All of Silvers numbers are low as fuck except for the random 100% firerate and big heal on Lycan.
>>5562533861 2 3 4 is awkward.Items are 10x worse.Slide is on my 4th mouse button, dash is on my 5th, melee is on my 6th (G502). I could maybe bind items to my 7th and 8th. Ping is still on mouse wheel click. I don't necessarily *need* dash on 5th, Shift is fine. But dash especially on mouse feels good.
>>556254238There's at least some stock in Blizzard esports while these guys are coasting on 'tismbux for the POTENTIAL of a scene
>>556253876>Just AFK and jump around it spawn, retard.why not just play?>>556253946the skill gap between teams is bizarre
>>556250193>losing with Graves>losing AS GravesYou are just bad. She's the most broken character in the game, on par with Victor in terms of how little skill you need to utterly destroy people.
>>556254205For me it's this https://youtu.be/8WpFyYkaAVY?si=9GsRAyyTeEzPodx-&t=13I have never seen someone get absolutely ass raped this hard before in a game.
>>556254238its literally 40 people playing for 30 dollars in winningsfgc tier
When are they gonna add hats? Genuine question
>>556253946I genuinely pray to god that this general doesn't end up with the same esport obsession as /lolg/ which is extra sad cuz ASSFAGGOTS tournaments are as sleepy and boring as they fucking get.>oh my poggers team x got a kill 30 minutes into the game I cant stop pogging irl!!!!
Alchemical flask is the best non ult skill in the game and I cant be convinced otherwise
>>556254542League esports are cringe but dota esports are genuinely kino, especially that one dude that betrayed his former teammate and lost
>>5562545424chan autists are something else>NOOO I CAN'T POST ABOUT MY ARAM MATCHES FOR A FEW HOURShow fucking casual can you be
>>556254405outing yourself my dude, she's good but she's only top tier in shitlow. she has no mobility, a very telegraphed snare and her skulls die to a single well timed melee.
>Rapid Recharge + Omnicharge Signet Stoneform
Hummm Victor takes skill actually
>>556254569they're great at shuffleboard
>>556254609>especially that one dude that betrayed his former teammate and lostqrd?
>>556253752Why do you hate birds ?
>>556254569Ok I won't try to convince you then.
>>556254384that might be it actually. blizzard's esport scene is bland, safe corporate shit but at least it has the production and money to back it up. deadlock's on the other hand is just a bunch of nobodies being as corporately safe as possible while still being just a small group of nobodies, meaning it's boring and safe for no reason at all.>>556254491say what you will about the fgc but (a decade ago, no so much now) the rivarlies and out of pocket moments were unmatched. You'll never get a "WHOSE BITCH IS THIS", "SOMEBODY'S GETTING FUCKED", or anything ltg related out of deadlock's esport scene.
>>556254674In Eternus she still has a 52% winrate, she's simply broken as fuck. You're just upset you are playing a literal crutch character and losing.
>>556253752I’m more of a dog person
>>556254836yeah where's the grandgrant of deadlockwe need a caster streamer that will get at least one MeToo allegation in the future
>>556254674>Very telegraphed snareWhich doesn't matter in the chaos of a teamfight when other abilities can compel your movement and she just has to place the wall where you're probable to move to
>>556254863tracklock has been broken for ages, if you filter for Eternus her winrate goes even lower. I don't even play her I main vindicta
>Literally just a better Miku in both abilities and design
>>556254798Somebody a little more versed in the lore should fill this anon in.
>>556254923Don't forget that the snare has a really high vertical range, the animation/model for it is super dishonest with how high up it reaches.>>556255060That is filtered for Eternus, moron. This is her winrate overall. She's more broken than Victor currently. No surprise at all that the two characters that do not have to aim anything at all, not even their abilities, are broken as fuck.>>556255096It is unfortunate since I like Miku's kit a lot, but it requires some actual thought to use sometimes, so it's just a worse Graves kit. She has an arguably better gun and that's about it, but you also have to aim it, so...
>>556255221>Don't forget that the snare has a really high vertical range, the animation/model for it is super dishonest with how high up it reachesI once tried double jumping over it and it just straight up sucked me down to the ground
should I still get the new nerfed cursed on holliday?
is grey talon goodi remember playing back in 4 lanes and being able to melt people with his 2 in close range
>>556255221>Don't forget that the snare has a really high vertical range, the animation/model for it is super dishonest with how high up it reaches.Yeah this is my only problem with the ability. It basically forces you to be aware of where it is at all times because even if you're mid-air if you're starting to descend from your jump you can't dash over it due to the air hitbox
Silver fans are the most obnoxious and annoying people I have seen in a long time
>>556255297If you trust your team to do the damage or you're already behind, sure.
>>556255295>>556255337Yeah, it really should have absolutely no vertical distance at all. The fact that range increases on it increase the vertical grab distance is so dumb considering how hard the wall hits, the fact that it can trigger multiple times, and the fact that it is basically invisible during a team fight.
>>556255297yes if its needed and no one else buys it, or if youre getting carried
>>556255221Nice reading comprehension, my entire point is she is only good in shitlow.
>>556255096They have different purposes, I think Miku still has her place in the sun
>>556255362t. retard that has been calling them trannies that don't play the game for two weeks straight
both silvers i played with who used vc were flaming feeding egirls
>>556255295>>556255221wow you two are massive shitters if you cry this much about graves
>>556255503Venator lost
>>556243774>https://youtu.be/8yvGCAvOAfM?t=104
>>556255362I just don't want her to be bad, she's exactly the kind of character I'd enjoy, turbofaggot.
Reddit thinks Silver needs nerfs bros...
>check rank>Alchemist IIIs that bad? What's that equivalent to?
>>556255503Should have called me over. I would have set them straight.
>>556243678>>556243732They should have made it 12 v 12
>>556255295a lot of abilities in this game are complete bullshit when it comes to verticality for no reason whatsoeverseriously why is victor's ult have like a 10 meter high hitbox? why does warden's ult have an infinite vertical hitbox? why does victor's aura also work downwards and like also 10 meters above ground without any visual indication it does?
>>556255490I haven't done that a single time.>>556255594She isn't bad at all.
>>556252612i am not gonna slide around like a faggot while shooting sorry
Does this game have a hero that is a large guy with a minigun?
>>556255686Its a bubble
>>556254798Some dude that went by Fly was friends for years and played on the same team as Notail. Like just mere hours before the international qualifiers I think, fly and some other dude left the team and fucked over their original team (OG) hard with such short notice because of some falling out. OG scrambled the fill the slots at the last minute and managed to not only win the international but also shat on their former backstabbing friends.
>>556255645Bronze
>>556255704impressive, very nice. now let's see her winrate across all ranks
>>556255704>She isn't bad at all.Retards really want to die on this particular hill
>>556252612I like reloading. What now?
>>556255748no only a large girl with a minigun
>>556255476She's good in every rank because she is broken as fuck.
>>556255813>>556255836Alright I see now that /dlg/ is also compromised by lesser beingsI will take my discussion elsewhere
>>556255801it should visually indicate that it is rather than it only having a floor indication thenyou don't see lash's stomp go above ground despite the fact that visually is the exact same as those
>>556255748McGinnis is a combination between Heavy and Engineer.
>>556255898By every measure you are wrong, enlightened faggot
Who should I try to learn today?And what kind of build to go along with it?
>>556256019Uppercut sustain spam bebop
>>556255898don't be a little bitch now, post that winrate and explain why you don't think she's bad despite what they might showcase.
>>556256019>>556256059Tank bebop is so fucking funny since people expect you to be a glass cannon, then you uppercut them and regain like 900 HP. Just get life strike and radiant regen or leech and you're good to go.
>>556254798>>556255809TI8 is where esports peaked
>"uhh how do we fix bebop">just change his 1 to heal missing hp just like victor who cares truly brilliant minds at valve
>>556252676No, THIS Abrams looks really gay.
Certain /vg/ threads should require your rank badge attached with your post/vg/ will improve on that day
>>556255810fuck
>>556255872but she's A/B tier above ORACLE, anything below that can't be considered for balancing
>>556254238Well youd be retarded then because blizzard loses literal millions propping up their fake scene and valve has contributed nothing>>556254384retard
>>556253025>pinkieDo you guys not click l-ctrl with the palm of your pinke?
>>556256346Honestly even considering oracle is generous, game should realistically be balanced for asc +
nice gravestone you have there
>>556256563>only balance for the upper ranksLol
>>556256268Don't forget giving his bomb (spirit nuke) a 20% firerate increase (???)
>>556256563I've got some friends that are absolutely retarded in Oracle rank so I agree with this guy. One of my buddies notably LOVES to go for a heavy melee whenever he roots someone with warden. Naturally he gets parried and feeds and he does this every game. Oracle is still the retard bracket.
>>556256736He's from the future where parrying costs 1 stamina (would be a genuinely good change imo)
Is your game over if you have a bad lane as drifter? I can't recover and hunt targets when they go deathball from lane to lane and objective.
>>556256669Bebop has so many fucking WORDS on his abilities now I genuinely forget sometimes that tier 3 uppercut resets hook cooldown.
>>556255810What's phantom 1?
>>556256736Some people just don’t fucking learn unless you tell them. Once played against a Drifter would teleport heavy melee every time and it was so sad and predictable
>>556256938GM
I love spamming sinclair in brawl and punishing ult bot spammers.My favs are Sevens and Graves in particular.
>>556255932It does barely
>>556256886Become a durationmaxxing ultbot if you're behind and can't pick fights yourself.
why do I never get the good infernus haze or holliday
>>556256886Just abuse his ult in teamfights its broken
>>556257030Now that cant be true?
>>556256268i tell you they don't care enough for reworks and won't for years at the very leastit's fucking stupid but it's just how it is. which sucks because there are SO many filler abilities or ones that just feel bad in their kit right now that no amount of number changes will fix
>>556256662Do you have an actual rebuttal? Why wouldn't you balance the game around people who can.. you know.. actually play it properly?
>>556257585It is? Ascendant is this games post GM rank, most FPS/MOBAs have it then Eternus is the ""top 500"" of the game.
>>556240992Blame the entire playerbase for requesting more heroes instead of working on the main game first. That's why there's so many rush job heroes with unfinished animations and models and shit voicelines..
>>556256478blizzard is just using the esport scene to scam investors out of their money but they still put the work in production for itdeadlock's scene is just a bunch of guys acting as corporate and soulless as possible without any of the actual production behind them banking on the POTENTIAL of future corpo sized esportsif they had it their way, they'd be the exact same as blizzard, don't fool yourself. the only different currently is that they aren't in their league despite them bending backwards to act that wayDO NOT misinterpret me: they're both dogshit. it's just that one is selling what it says on the tin, while the other is disingenously pretending to be it.
>>556257867>Blame the playerbase and not the people working on the game who have control over what gets added and what doesn't
>play brawl>abrams gets personally gifted by god
>it's another game where the adjacent lane gave 6 kills to a single carrywelp afk times
>>556240992yamato's leaked redesign sucked so they had to start again
>>556256569needs level 3.You're not gonna be dealing with them right away unless it's brool
what do i do as cadaver man when the enemy buys a curse just for me?
>>556258012>no runed gauntletsEasily winnable
>>556258157Hope you have a the cube
>>556258157Press S instead of W for once
What this game really needs is a lot more items that are actual sidegrades in their tier, so it's not just the same obviously optimal picks for every build and character every game, and you need to make actual choices with real tradeoffs.
>>556258045How do you know they're single?
>>556257150i don't think that's a thing with victor's or warden'sat least i haven't seen it in my 100 plus hours playing victor
>>556257917Cope however you please but organic self funded scene>power gap>blizzard "pay people to pretend to give a shit and be pro"
>>556257867why would i blame the playerbase for valve's blatant chasing of an audience? it's clear the reason they do new heroes is because it's the only thing that has actually bought people back to the game.
don't worry bros the vyper rework is coming soon and it will give her a sexy new model and replace her dogshit dagger and ultimate... trust...
>>556258496they do new heroes because dota launched with almost 100 heroes and 30 heroes is not enough
>>556258540Sliding every 1.5 seconds is annoying so that has to go.
>>556258496And it's clear they have a secret Beta to filter out the annoying naggy crowd.
>>556258371That's on victor, dude. He gets a VERY VERY faint shimmering bubble around him when he has aura up. Go test it yourself.
>>556257101How do you get close enough to steal? Trying to learn him
>>556258404>organicorganic is something like house of chaos (as shit as bum is as a host) where it's literally just one guy inviting niggas to his house to host tourneys he streams on twitchentire teams forming overnight to compete for money on a very VERY clearly corporately safe setting isn't organic, SPECIALLY not for these kinds of games. When was the last time you ever saw a slur thrown in your matches? Now think. Where was the last time you saw the same happen in one of these events?Even in fucking DOTA you have people ocassionally throwing out the slur during major tournaments, even to public backlash.
A lot of the new heroes are fucking lame though>le sexy woman, oh uhh she's a vampire I guess>le sexy woman, oh shit uhh, she likes books????>le sexy woman, she has a horn too I guess>le sexy woman, she turns into a werewolf that sucks ass>Tumblrbait mascot character
>>556258540>dogshit ultimate
>>556258789and normies eat that shit up.
yeah, im playing seven and im gonna hit some creeps
>>556258674You just press 2 somewhere safe, run up steal their ult and teleport away, it's not rocket science
>>556258789Notice how this anon doesn't mention the MEN even though they've all been sex gods (not you Apollo)
AT WHAT FUCKING MMR DO RETARDS STOP DEATH PUSHING BASE AFTER GETTING A PICK OFF INSTEAD OF GETTING A FREE MID BOSS??!?!?!?THIS SHIT IS STARTING TO PISS ME OFF SO FUCKING MUCH JUST INCASE YOU HAVENT NOTICED
>>556258789maybe apply for sweet baby if you think the old designs are good
>>556258886IT'S TIIIIIIME TO PLAY
this game is still decided in the first 10minutes. The remaning 30 minus are just agony for one side
>>556258958Apollo is a sex devil insteadVote Apollo
>>556258769Idk what your definition of organic is but the biggest tournament so far was self funded with one sponsor (trolli)
>>556258665>>556258993good morning sir !
>>556258993Name a bad old design that isn't marked for a redesign.
THROWING BOLA
>>556258814Vyper's ultimate would be good if you could damage people during it, right now it's just a abysmal dogshit Rem ult.
>>556250197>50% and up at all tiers of play?someone mentioned using stalker's mark to avoid spells which I do miss, but the delay and sound they added baits people into parry half the time so it works out anyway
>>556259148
>>556259116calico
>>556258616you're completely off your rocker if you think they're gonna get anywhere near 100 by releasewe'll be lucky if we get to 50 by then>>556258665all the more reason i don't blame the playerbase for this desu>>556258671on the ground, sure, i'm talking vertically though. do you know the amount of times i've stopped a seven ult because they thought victor's ult wouldn't reach 10 meters above his dead body?>>556259076organic means people act in matches the same way they'd act in their regular gamesagain tell me when was the last time you saw two people fighting like retards, having a rivarly, insulting eachother, being overall toxic in these tourneys. now tell me when was the last time this has happened in a match you've played in.
>>556259227>>556259227>>556259227>>556259227
>>556259049After Venator
>>556259145>20% slow for one second and zero damage Alright
>>556259116>that isn't marked for a redesign.Massive cope because they will be updated to look like the new characters. Anyway, Talon, Kelvin, Calico, Mirage, Vyper, Wraith, Yamato, Mo & Krill are all dogwater designs. No one is excited to play le fat pig, thats why the game died. Now they have sexy women and it's thriving.
>>556259271Ok we have different definitions for organic, in this context I was referring to the source of funding
>>556259706if you consider source of funding to be what makes or breaks an esport event as organic then i got some very VERY bad news for you about every single valve esport scene
>>556251556americans basically think that the end of their imperialism means everyone on earth should die and stop having kids
>>556259271>i'm talking vertically thoughThat IS vertically! I am agreeing with you that it should be clearer but I'm showing you something cool you fuck.
>>556262124christ that's really badi can only BARELY see it on the tree and nowhere elsethey should have victor's stink aura obscure that bubble the more he charges it
>>556258012I've seen luckier, mleee lifesteal enhanced is only good one for his kit.
>>556256505no you fucking subhuman retard, the fact you're probably serious makes me want to punch you in the back of the head so hard and without warning you bite off a chunk of your tongue
