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1V5 BURN MANA SHIELD

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Wiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Game
News: https://dota2.com/news
Patches: https://dota2.com/patches
Updates: https://dota2.com/news/updates
Lore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Lore
For League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lol
Bug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues
X: https://x.com/dota2

>STATISTICS
https://dota2protracker.com/
https://dotabuff.com
https://opendota.com
https://stratz.com
https://stats.spectral.gg
Personal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/

>ESPORTS
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esports
https://datdota.com
https://dota2.com/esports
https://gosugamers.net/dota2

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>>556251408
Why is Dota YouTube filled with cancer with no personality or love and other games even deadlock have actually humans talking showing gameplay abd generally putting live in vids about the game?
All we have is text on screen weirdos and washed up expro players who show 0 emotion and seem to hate playing
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>>556252093
be the change you see in the world
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>>556252093
most extreme case of only gameplay matters crowd
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>>556252093
Lack of region lock killed dota in the west (only westerners are human and can create good content)
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>>556252801
what is good deadlock content?
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>>556252883
huh? who cares about weeblock
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>>556252997
the poster you responded to
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>>556252687
Not for YouTube vids you boring fuck
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>>556253132
No?
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>>556252093
How come when I complained about this a few threads ago I got called a low-IQ tourist?!
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>>556252883
The people posting even basic gameplay seem approachable and actually human
It’s not just dry gameplay
Abd the analysis vids are well edited and from current year.
Look at Funke as a well known example or zerggy as someone who streams that game and actually has fun with the game.
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>>556253218
what are you confused about
>other games even deadlock have actually humans talking showing gameplay abd generally putting live in vids about the game
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>>556253401
So? I don't care about that
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>>556253474
ah, so it wasnt who cares it was "i dont care"
i accept your apology
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>>556252803
Crazy how Dota has only one good porn artist
Same with the lack of content on YouTube this game is undead.
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>>556253539
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>556253643
how dumb you are
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>>556253761
You're talking absolute nonsense and blaming me for not understanding, you're the retard here
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>>556253863
you're too moronic to understand what is happening, ever
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>>556247935
buggy in the client yes not on ff desktop
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>>556253959
I know exactly what happened, and I know you're a fucking retarded schizo that thinks every poster that replies to you is the same person
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>>556252093
no EFL content creators because brits dont play videegames and americans chase trends, you'll notice deadlock is chock full of NA content creators atm because its the hot new thing. The only real people who make it as english content creators tend to be EFLs because accents turn people off, there are exceptions obviously but the majority are EFLs
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>yooooo bro what if AM deleted your entire mana pool in 2 seconds, get it?
>because he's le ANTI mage lol!
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>>556254537
>not bullying him out of lane in the early game
>not farming him in the early-mid game
>not turning him into a schizo with mid-game ganks as he tries to jungle
uhhh...
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>>556254756
that doesn't make manaburn a dogshit mechanic
literally nobody
NOBODY enjoys playing against am
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>>556254537
I feel like there's not enough counterplay to mana burn mechanics in general which makes it incredibly frustrating to deal with for a lot of heroes, even outside of Medusa sometimes you just get EMP comboed and lose all your mana instantly on some low-int hero and it sucks ass. KnS is way too expensive for what it is and other than that there's... Eternal Shroud? Which doesn't work in all matchups.
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>>556254871
not dogshit*
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WHY DOES THIS GAME TRIGGER MY SOCIAL ANXIETY SO BAD??? I wanna play...
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>>556254289
Most people don’t even talk in their vids
Even Elsa like tops on would been fine if they tried to be entertaining at all
Or gorgc or anyoneeee
There is such low amount of engagement
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>the notail fly drama was actually like 5+ years ago
that hit me right in the gut, it felt so recent. It's like I woke up from a long coma.
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Honestly I just wish my computer could run deadlock so I could escape this dog shit
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>>556256045
I play a lot of deadlock and haven't touched dota in a couple years but dota is still my favorite competitive game. Playing certain deadlock heroes makes me miss playing dota, like Sinclair having a retard friendly version of Rubick ult. I just hate the larger map so fucking much I don't want to reinstall.
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>>556254984
maybe whoever ""balances"" this game now realizes that half the shit in it isn't fucking fun
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>>556256609
All you people complaining about the larger map just wanna fountain-camp people, fuck you
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>>556256957
Like I said it's been years but my problem with it was, for example, shit like shutting down a sven. trying to gank him in his now massive fucking jungle to no avail because he's got so much more space to run around in. then he comes back farmed anyway. It just felt like the final nail in the coffin for players that try to press their early advantage in favor of forced rubberbanding mechanics to keep teams from gaining a lead. Every game felt like a superficial slog.
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>>556255018
brother you are literally anonymous who cares
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>>556257314
t. too retarded to check the ancients behind t2
if you take t1 and then don't occupy the lane (and by extension his jungle) you deserve every loss
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>>556258073
100% sure I'm a higher rank than you, I was immortal when I quit.
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anyone else gets extremely bored past 27-32 minutes of the game?
yeah, its cool that you can farm a camp in 2 hits and eat everything on the map but i would rather do some fighting after having to suffer farming for 30 minutes already
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>>556258538
if you don't have a rank (eu) then no you're not higher than me
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>>556258637
the most boring time is when you're at 15 min and dont have a farming item yet, playing muerta or windrunner or some shit you just wanna finish that maelstrom and then you have to farm another 2k for mjollnir
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>>556258538
you don't play the game but you're in here bitching about it?
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>>556258965
I was just talking about what made me quit? Retard
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>>556258637
Weird, that's my favorite part of the game. I'd say my least favorite is ultra late game because everything is so volatile and that awkward post-laning phase like this anon said >>556258902
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*nullifies u*
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>>556258637
Most games end by then
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what the fuck do you do against slark in lane as pos 3
you cant fight him 1v1 becuse he just steals all your agi and attacks twice as fast as you
hes super mobile
pretty tanky for a pos 1
like what are you supposed to do against him
his late game is also incredibly strong
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>>556260974
Pick ranged heroes
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>>556261352
he can literally jump on you whenever he wants
besides, pick a ranged hero and have 0 initiation for midgame and then auto lose because between his leap, ult and aghs hes too slippery
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>>556261569
Just dodge his pounce?
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>>556261668
what do you mean dodge his pounce? its 700 range and he can also use it to disengage for free
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>>556261823
Just walk to the side?
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okay end this dogshit event and put up the battlepass with TA and Luna arcana already
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>>556262138
are you baiting me or are you that dense?
go into demo mode and look how big the range is and how huge is the hitbox on that thing
and besides that, he ALSO CAN US IT TO RUN AWAY, it doesnt require him to click that shit on enemies
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>>556262261
It will be a lore event like Crownfall with loli Pugna and Rubick's magical schoolgirl protege
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>>556262278
Just more to the side, it's not hard to dodge
Are you standing on top of him or something?
If he runs away he's not farming or getting kills, so he's not winning lane
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does kez q(both) proc diffu
>>556260974
he has like 500 hp go punch him
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>>556259282
classic dotard behaviour
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>winning game
>enemy has mars with victory feast
>no one on my team buys bkb
>keep getting mars ulti'd and die to luna + puck aghs
>everyone gets a billion fucking health + pipe on mars
>cant kill anyone
yeah i dont know why russians are so fucking brain dead but its not exactly a new discovery
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>>556262637
>>556262609
i mostly play melee so its impossible to dodge really
its not that hes constantly running away, its that he has an escape option that is good so you cannot just walk up to him and catch him with more movement speed, its not like hes gonna sit behind his creeps all laning phase and just take it
he has ~600hp lvl 1, 3 armor and if he hits you twice he gains another armor point, after that its 1 armor point every 2 autos and he gains 3 agility each auto he does to you
i dont know a single hero that can man fight him outside of shit like tide but he shits on tide later and its not like tide is gonna free hit him when he has pounce and a strong dispel in lane
something like death prophet maybe could work, but even then he can just pounce from your syphon to cut it short
and even then you are stuck with death prophet so if you dont win within 25 minutes you only become worse
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>>556264026
https://www.twitch.tv/kepa_mita
oh one of them is a tranny with voice changer
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>>556260974
DAWN
BREAKS
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dude what if we gave death ward fucking split shot because it wasn't broken enough lol
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>>556264849
It's still dogshit and witch doctor is a worthless hero, it honestly shouldn't be a channel at all.
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>>556264926
>witch doctor is a worthless hero
In what universe?
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>>556264926
take that staff and shove it up your ass you purple nigger
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>>556265030
This one, the only time he was playable was the brief moment when voodoo restoration also dealt damage to enemies, right now and for the majority of this game's existence he's been worthless dogshit unless he's played against literal retards.
>>556265154
t. literal retard
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>>556264926
WDniggers deserve the rope. I don't know a hero that can do so much with only so little.
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*maledicts you*
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>>556265267
The hero does literally nothing regardless of how much it has.
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>wd
>good
Didn't know sub 1k mmr "people" posted here.
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i just griefed a game because a teammate doubled down and i wanted him to lose out of spite because he was being annoying
he tried to micromanage everything in the game, he literally kept telling everyone where they should be and what items they should buy the entire game until i muted him and started stealth griefing
i went 3/10 which is damning but i think i hid the euthanasia pretty well, might get away with murder
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dota is fun
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>>556265637
posted by 2k mmr probably hehe
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>>556265721
>he literally kept telling everyone where they should be and what items they should buy the entire game
What's wrong with this? When I shot-call in Marvel Rivals I get tons of commends after the game.
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>>556264302
you're supposed to put the fear of god in him by just hitting whenever he tries to go near creeps because he also has to hurt himself with q to threaten you and you don't need to kill him just keep him poor
anyone with nukes or sustained damage can do it, lc mars slar omni sk mag ns zooniggas seer etc
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holy fucking shit im so tired of these inept fucking sidelane supports im going back to playing mid even though i lose more than i win
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>>556265856
GOOD POST
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>>556266901
he has the same mmr as all 4 of his teammates, his opinion is just as valuable as that of anyone else in the game
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>>556252093
I like how powerpoints exploded after like 2 videos because it's literally the only dota content on the internet that isn't
>30 minute long replay with no commentary
>3 minute guide reading hero ability descriptions
>3 hour guide that's just a bored european watching replays from 3+ years ago
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>>556268524
Sooooo...? Whats wrong with shot calling when you're the same MMR? I don't get it
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>>556267254
man but how?
i had games where i just try to do just that and he wins a 1v1
night stalkers q is a terrible nuke until level 3
all of the tanky initiators are also rather poor against him (alone)
i feel like this requires a support that can actually nuke him down but outside of that he isnt really weak to anything
you can fight many other pos 1 as a 3 but slark just feels like its a lose lose no matter what y ou do, and his kill potential is pretty good in lane
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wait 10 minutes to find a game in the most common bracket in the most populated server
projected match quality is: Questionable (1)
someone declines lol!!!
wait 10 minutes to find
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>>556267254
also, he does like 30 or 50% or his q damage to himself, thats like 20-70 health from 1-2-3-4 thats pretty much nothing
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Grubby is complaining about Age of Empires 2 being unintuitive hehe what a noob!
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Im sure rubick really fucking needs his free 60% magic resist but could the dev that loves this cocksucking hero fucking kill himself
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>>556256929
>dude, just make losing fun! 4head
You're retarded.
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>>556270456
this post really got my grub jigglin
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>>556270969
>yeah bro i fucking love losing all my mana even when im winning!
speedrun cancer irl since it seems like something you'd enjoy
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>>556252093
I GOT SOME GOOD STUFF
https://www.youtube.com/@420warriorexplorer
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>>556271096
>disabled by Break
>doesn't pierce BKB
Cope. Seethe. Mald. Shitter.
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>>556271264
cancer?
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>>556269668
go play slark and see how you get fucked
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>high five hand isn't the palico paw anymore
no...
I haven't finished the event yet...
my extension... where's my extension...
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>>556271496
Look, you got clapped by Anti-Fun who finished farming. It feels bad. You were helpless. Take a breath, this is a competitive game, you're not entitled to counter-play everything the opponent has. Making losing fun is physically impossible, and if you want to prove otherwise, you're sitting on a billion dollar idea.
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>all of our lanes shitstomped
>we were raped in midgame
>enemy loses 1 rosh fight
>proceed to lubricate their anus
denied cocky faggots doubled down mmr, never get cocky
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>>556272475
>shitstomped
>10k advantage
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>>556271795
im not gonna spend 50 games to learn ins and out, i just want to know how to counter that hero
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>>556272706
You totally will, though. That's how you git gud at Doter.
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>>556272706
you wanna spend 50 games getting fucked by some mystery meat you have no clue how to approach instead
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>>556252093
I watch one NZ LoLfag learning DotA currently, he's somewhat entertaining even if he had a severe case of not reading at the beggining.
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>>556273076
>>556272903
he isnt even picked that often anymore so its a waste, unless you want me to farm tokens by saying i always play pos 1 and get my behaviour score to 1 point
i want to git gud on my role not cosplay pos 1 and lose 90% of my games because i cant play pos 1
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>>556272121
uh
kys
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https://voca.ro/1a2d6A9db4SN 7 days after hear fart you will fart
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>>556273330
you'll be bitching about the next meta carry for the same reasons sooner or later
finish that a-z hero challenge baybay
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why am I getting fucking russian smurfs on the enemy team every other match when I only queue US servers
dead dogshit game
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>>556273569
i havent bitched about any hero outside of slark in a long time
i dont care if a hero is meta as long as i have ways to deal with it
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>>556273330
Pick a nuker with ground targetted spells. That's the secret. Slark has no health. AA, Sand King, Phoenix, Disruptor.
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>bitching about slark
>bitching about wd
Sure is low mmr in here
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>>556267935
yeah people are just too retarded for dota i fucking give up
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>>556273874
thank you
but why do people say he has no hp, he has average pos 1 hp
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>>556274072
my fucking nigger underlord gave w to rubikc 500 times i swear to god how hard is it to press w q
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>>556273879
>slark is a top tier carry pick right now
sure is fucking retarded in here
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>>556274192
None of the "average" agi carries have any HP, either. But a lot of them have mitigation. AM has magic resist. MK has lifesteal. Clinkz and Juggernaut have heals. PL has a dodge. Void's time walk is anti-burst.

Slark has dicksquat. In fact, his self-dispel hurts him.
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im getting tipped because my pos 4 is weaver
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>>556274728
it "hurts" him for 20 hp sclaing to 70 and by the time you got 4 points in it you dont really mind it
dispel that has 10 ticks meaning you can dispel almost any cc/item in the game, i say 70 hp for a 6s cd Strong Dispel is pretty good
anyway, i got the answer so thanks
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>>556274192
it's more notable on him because he needs to manfight you for 5+ seconds to get anything done which is basically an eternity, he can't kite you or nuke you and he damages himself that's instany -90g for tangos if he starts fights that doesn't go his way
and it's not like he's good at killing anybody at 6 either he can't ramp up in a teamfight when 2 random nukes can end him
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>>556274289
>>556274072
>found game on Dotabuff
Bro, what the fuck am I watching? They won their lanes and then blew an 18k lead?
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>>556275534
wintrade lobby
spektrus is in the acc buyer wintrader pool
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>>556275651
Does wintrading have to be so dramatic?
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>>556275534
no shivas
no skadi
alchemist afk farming all game
underlord giving away w
tinker warlock rubick highground
frogman healing nonstop because no skadi/shiva
yeah anyway not much i can do i have 70k dmg rest of my team had maybe less than that combined
my carry was a viper with heart mageslayer
wcyd
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>>556275651
don't you have a job application to write?
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>OW is dropping the 2 and adding a sequel worth of content to the game

Dotards? When are you dropping the Reborn and going back to the roots?
Even blizzard managed to realize it was a mistake and went back to fix their shitty game.
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I CANT EVEN WIN AGAINST FUCKING BOTS
I killed four of them, only bot left is Terrorblade and he kills all four of my AI teammates while I push a tower. What the fuck????? I just wanna play with real people already, this fucking sucks.
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>>556276343
they could add shartifacts and blunderlords to the client
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>>556276454
ok so play against real people
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>>556276606
But you guys said I need to learn more heroes
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>>556275368
not really, he gains 3 agi per auto, 9 agility early game is 3 armor and it doesnt take that much to hit 3 autos, especially with an agressive pos5
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>>556276039
15 years of you getting mad at other people on a videogame
playing day in day out and youre not even immortal draft
just a lost soul drifting amongst russian and middle eastern teenagers
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>>556276896
What heroes are you trying to learn?
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>>556277069
i have like maybe 100 ranked games since december
first time in a year i've tried to gain mmr im +700 and im gonna keep climbing
im around 8500 so you're not be able to dotabuff my games anymore obsessed fucking faggot
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>>556274072
You don't give up spektrus you will play 5000 more games because you're a sad fucking loser addict who gave up on life.
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>>556277286
you dont even get what im trying to tell you man
mmr gain? climbing? what about your life pal. wake up
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>>556277425
>>556277329
lol multidevicing obsessed faggot
damn i played my first 3 games of the week after i got home from work
i must be truly addicted and lost in life
poor me
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>>556277272
idk, I've just been clicking Random to try to find ones I like. I hate like 95% of the character designs in this damn game, everyone is so ugly and half of them are just warcraft 3 units
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Disperser doesn't give movespeed vibes right now
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>>556277568
youre a working man getting mad at russian high schoolers for not playing like you expect them to. get a grip poor guy
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>>556277739
yeah im mad i have to play with 85 iq russian baboons
you got me
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>>556277686
Read the skills of the heroes and try to find one that seems fun
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>>556277829
Non-Russians are baboons, too.
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>>556277829
you are thoroughly mindbroken
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>>556277829
uuhhh but russians are le based and good at the game though?? theres literally no reason to hate russians stop being russophobic
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>>556258637
If you hate farming then just play Turbo like every other ADD retard.
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>>556276343
>they're adding a big titty bitch
huh????
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is there a patch or something why is there 750k online
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>>556278638
last couple days for the monster hunter event
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>>556277829
woah kotlguy
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>>556278638
60% of that is just bot accounts.
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>>556274289
UD has extremely long cast animations, unless Rubick is a parapeglic he will always steal pit. Same problem as Jakiro has.
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>>556278638
Alive game
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>>556276343
>for sure relaunch of overwatch 2 (1(2)) will work third time!
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Why havent they hotfixed the primal beast refresher AoE thing
dont tell me it's a feature
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here's a hard to swallow pill for you dotards:
there is atleast 1 scripter/cheater in every game
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>>556279363
They fixed most of the shit 2 had already and they are going even further.
Its actually good now.
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>>556279559
It's a feature
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>>556277032
well that's your problem he can apparently hit you 3 times for free
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>>556279082
nah u can animation cancel no rubick unless they're scripting is getting a spell between that it goes for every hero, tide, es whatever
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>>556279615
totally for sure
did they also remove the z axis heroes they added in 2?
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>>556279613
t. scripter/cheater
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>>556279842
>rubick that's not scripting
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>>556276343
valve only has the patent, copyright or trademark (whatever it is) for "dota 2"
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>>556279817
the problem is you hit him 3 times, he hits you 3 times, you hit him once more and he hits you twice in that time now, plus he has more armor now and steals regeneration if you have any
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my rubick keeps stealing clinkz spells
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>>556278638
game has been hitting 800k+ since TI i believe
not really anything new apart from some event (whether its curios or mh) always running
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>>556280071
See >>556271795
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What are some heroes that you're always happy to have on your team?
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reddit keeps talking about some mega event on feb 5 (according to some russian dataminer)
any valve insiders got the scoop?
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>>556280364
>Dota
>Updates
bro this game is a graveyard.
Meanwhile other shit like shitlock and overtrash get bi monthly major updates, new heroes, features and shit.
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>>556280101
guy found the only rubick not scripting
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>>556280263
nah i dont think i will
apparently hes weak to being bursted and hard ccd, both of which he can counter in a way so yeah
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>tfw you're playing mid and not paying attention to the enemy heroes so you treat 3 heroes like supps
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>>556279842
Have you ever played Rubick? It really is not that hard to time steal at all, that's why the hero is good there are some heroes that just can't stop Rubick from stealing some broken spell.
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I love playing dota with random people on the internet
thank you volva
thank you gayben
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>>556281159
If you're such a fungi to play with, why aren't people lining up to join your private custom lobbies?
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>>556281561
we don't talk about anon's island
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this game is just the same thing over and over. why do people have thousands of hours on it
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>>556282245
this whiny doompost is just the same thing over and over. why do people make thousands of posts of it
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>>556280517
lmao cope
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>>556282824
My man, you are the one believing random "leaks" from russians
Remember when then chinese "leaked" that were would be remodels for all hero and a huge 2.0 update?
lol of course you don't.
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>>556283267
To be fair, Valve is known to cancel updates and entire game releases out of spite for leaks.
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>>556283615
that makes them a fucking shit dev.
I dont understand why people praise them so much, all their practices are blizzard-tier garbage.
If you played Dota for a long time you'd realize it just has been a guinea pig for monetization experiments and features for their next project.
A graveyard of abandoned features that you can still pay for mostly.
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>Deadlock gets 5 new heroes
>Overwatch gets 5 new heroes

Dotards????????
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>>556284305
Five new personas
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>>556284305
you just got the fat frog
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back to viper it is
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>recalibrate
>get 1.3k mmr
Here's to another entire year stuck in 1k mmr hell
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hey man we noticed that you went 20-0-46 in a 68 kill match, did the most damage and had 3000 gpm
but there was a witch doctor on your team and he pressed cask twice so we're giving mvp to him if thats okay
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>>556284305
>look in /owg/
>hamster clone
>pharah clone
>genji clone
>Hello Kitty collab
Yeah, no.
Go back to your dead general.
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>>556280901
if you properly animation cancel the backswing of underlord w there is virtually no delay between w q bro just try it in demo
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>>556284841
>>Hello Kitty collab
lol that'd be pretty funn-
>its real
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>>556282245
how do people have tens of thousands of hours playing fighting games?
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>>556284841
Enjoy your updates.
Oh wait.
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>>556282245
how do people have tens of thousands of hours playing mmorpgs?
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>>556285257
Paedophilia
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I've never played ranked
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>>556285371
expansion packs
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>>556285274
If it's so bad here, I guess you'll have no problems going back. Bye.
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What will the next dota collab be?
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>start team fight
>i die
>the entire enemy team dies
>all teammates survive
thats.. good, right? it didn't feel good.
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>>556286115
average pos 3 gameplay
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>>556285791
hololive
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>>556286143
I love being a brainless pos3
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>"Offlane lifestealer"
>Just plays as a pos 1.
lol, so much for winning.
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>>556286143
i think i was position 2? but everyone was just kind of waddling back-and-forth while the enemies were walking at us so i was like "Banzai!" and they all followed me
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>>556285948
would
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your mom lets you have TWO carries?
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oh my fucking god kill yourselves
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>>556286826
me on the left
enjoy your lost lane king
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>>556278042
The rate at which they are good at the game is about the same as any other ethnicity.
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>>556286587
yup, time to euthanize
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>>556287406
nigga is buying radiance like its 2024
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>finally get a retarded 70+ minute game with leavers
Huh. So that's what being fully slotted level 30 feels like.
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xtreme gaming are kinda cooking this tournament
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what are some good pos 5s that can scale decently well into late game/mid game like cm? also pos 4s
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>>556289982
Most of them nowadays. It was a monumental task, but IceFrog made every support scale.

CM is actually one of the shittier ones. KotL, Visage, and Chen all fall off.

Lion scales the hardest.
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>>556290656
Lion scales the hardest? cm with aghanims bkb and ghost does a pretty good job, same with lich aghs shard refresher
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>>556286826
my drip was too hard my swag was too different my bitch was too bad my style too tough so they had to send these fucking retards to lower my winrate
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>>556289982
Winter Wyvern with the stun on W talent goes kinda crazy and landing a good curse is always great since it scales based on the enemy team's damage
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>>556291009
Bro how the fuck do you lose offlane as Veng and Death Prophet, that shit is cancer to lane against.
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>>556291009
Venge has to be the most useless hero in the game
instalose hero if on your team
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>>556290937
Lion's upgrades and talents make his skills gain AoE. Go into demo mode. Click Max level. Agh's blessing + shard, Travel's, Blink, BKB, Octarine, Aether Lens, Gleipnir.

Start testing it on dummies. You now have a 325 AoE Hex 3.2s, which hard-counters PL on a 7.1 second cool down. Basically Ravage on an 8.3 second cd. And Finger of Death AoE on a 22.5 second cd.

If you can't win any teamfight with this, you can't win, period.
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I played my first tusk game
it did not go well
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Why have people been skipping the mjolnir and bloodyhron upgrades until around 3-4th item?
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>>556292054
Maelstrom is for farming.
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>>556291846
Lion and Shaman are such fucking overtuned nigger heroes
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>>556269180
you play your hero
I play my hero
fucking donkey trashcan piece of russian/peru shit
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>>556292125
>Oldfag seethe that Int heroes aren't food late game
To hell with you.
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>>556292054
because when you are going into a teamfight with threads mjollnir at 20 minutes, its fucking awful?
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>>556292234
Even relative to other supports you have to admit it's indecent
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>>556292308
Mjollnir active is so good in those early teamfights though
particularly on a hero like razor you put the active on you just run in and you make so much space for your team while dealing dmg
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>>556292327
Learn to spend your BKB time killing supports.

>b-b-but I can't manfight the carry!
Buy Satanic, uighur.
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>>556292308
Lacking the attack speed from hyper stone is more awful isn't? It's a day and night difference between the two.
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Can we please remove this fucking item from the game already?
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>>556292525
I mean even at lvl 1 Lion's single line stun has an actually wider way of hitting enemies than any other single line stun
just compare Nyx's stun vs Lion in demo mode, it looks like a line stun but it acts more like a cone already
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>>556292806
Because when you compare level 1 Lion to level 1 Nyx, one is food, and the ither isn't.
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i spent my scripted wins on turbo...... its over....
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>>556292552
you need a manta or bkb or something to teamfight
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>>556292054
the rest of bloodybenchodthorn is almost a bkb or agh or whatever
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>>556293208
you don't need a bkb for the first teamfights happening min 15-20
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>Its another "picks any lane but plays pos 1" episode
nice game.
this and the lack updates really sell this game.
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gorper is sick again...
whats his issue
why did he move to a thirdie shithole like cyprus? Just to die in turk owned apartments?
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>>556293983
better the kebabs than the somali gangs
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>>556294316
yuros are massive muzzie lovers
i don't get it
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>>556294385
theyre high up in the ran out of problems to complain about club
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Why does MK's shard makes him travel to the end of his stun but for Sven it's his aghs. Why not make that Sven's shard as well
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>>556294637
Because MK isn't critting you for like 3k damage
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my next match their axe went 0/16/1
it might be better if no one plays this game if these people r just running free
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a golden thread!
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>>556293573
What can I say I like farming and gold is good
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I won a close game with MMR double-down, now I'm getting stomped for the 2nd time in a row. Is Gaben the ultimate magician behind this algorithm?
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>>556291172
>>556291304
The duality of Dota.
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Whats it like to play this game with friends?
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>>556299180
horrible
you'll never have 4 friends with similar mmr
in fact i don't even have 1 friend
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>>556291172
>Dotabuff claims enemy SB was duo mid with Mirana
I think I know the answer, and it's 17%.
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>>556292308
You have Maelstrom + a Hyperstone + two sources of multi-hit zaps. You're actually a stupidly strong dps machine at that point. Just don't frontline unless you're like, a DK. Give the Mjollnir active to your real frontliner then kill somebody on the side.
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>>556299180
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>>556299180
chances of pulling of sick shit is small but it's nice to know they'll look out for you
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>>556299180
Duo laning is much better because you two can coordinate and play off of each other's quirks and strengths. It's not perfect though because it depends on the comp, and if they have different ideas of how to macro.

Like I love ratting and split pushing and ganking to keep the enemy team oppressed. I will spend a lot of time smacking towers, and working towards smacking towers faster. One friend *HATES* split pushing, and pushing in general. He complains every time I use him and the rest of the team as a distraction to take a free rax. Laning is fine though. We generally stomp the lane together (even though we don't see eye to eye 100%). Laning solo vs with him is night and day.

Don't know how a good 3+ stack is like. Haven't queued more than duo'ing.

Also I obsessively make clips so sometimes I get to share clips from the collection with friends if they're in them, which is nice. Usually I keep them all to myself since I'm not trying to be a streamer or w/e.
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>>556273281
locky and makkro are fun to watch tbqh
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>>556301152
That sounds really nice...
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>>556280275
cm for mana aura
oracle but now the disarm is back so maybe not
alch when he gives me scepters
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>>556282245
the subtle differences between matches is what brings the depth
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>>556299180
>>556299814
this
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why didn't you buy the tshirts?
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>>556303748
this nigga spent all of his money on whores and drugs didn't he?
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>>556303748
clicking boulder wasnt paying the bills
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Foot
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>>556303748
*insert Earth Spirit quote here*
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>>556292169
>team game
>before you've even queued for the match you hate your team
Bro why even play if you're going to throw as soon as someone asks "WD do you want urn or me?" or says "I can fight when bfly, 1 minute and scout rosh pls"
"qop missing" "REEE I'M GONNA FEED"
"stun now" "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GANKING AHHH I'M GOING INSANE I HAVE TO STEAL FARM NOW"

Wish I could uninstall the game from your PC
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>>556303748
bro is not in a good spot
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>>556266901
>Marvel Rivals
lmaoooooo

Marvel Rivals lets you climb to GM with a 40% winrate. It is irrelevant and a joke.
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>>556265721
>>556292169
Wish I could euthanize you, agent.
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>just playing the game
>enemy A: report B! He's ukronazi saying racist shit!
>enemy B: I'm just saying facts
I wish team chat was readable post game or in replay, or somehow.
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>>556303748
Why doesn't he become a billionaire like Envy by daytrading?
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>>556308761
dishonest living erodes the soul
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>>556303748
I hope he's just bored & not broke
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>>556266901
>Marvel Rivals
Well that's easy, only didney adults play that game, and didney adults need to outsource their thinking to a Daddy. As a rare Mousecuck who has played real games outside the walled garden, you served as the Daddy for those particular matches.
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>>556310708
>doesn't buy BKB
>loses his team the game
>play YOUR game!
>goes into enemy jungle and dies, costing his team the game
>play YOUR game!
I would play my game, but there's this account buying Herald dumbfuck in it that keeps ruining it.
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How come Topson has so many views? He doesn't say anything and is not that good at dota
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>>556311274
we're grooming him into becoming gorgc 2 for when gorpa is off and/or kills himself
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>>556292735
why
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>>556312565
Someone's salty at all the carry Ogres wannabes that keep failing, probably.
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>does nothing
>wins
what is this strat called
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>>556312804
the chud
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>>556312804
Xi Jinping Special.
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>>556312773
they should remove ogre from the game instead
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>>556313021
Why? He's a good support. It's not his fault retards keep picking Fat Chance, instead of Learning Curve, and keep trying to play him as a core, then fail.
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>>556313286
because ogre pickers are niggers and I hate them and their stupid fucking autopilot faggot shitsucking subhuman peabrain nigger hero
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>>556313427
Pick Lifestealer or Zeus, or get AND KEEP Serrated Shiv. Stop crying about the fat retard.
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>>556312565
Its literally griefing.
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>>556313782
You don't like a farming item that pays for itself after 10 minutes?
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>LV 25 bear can just solo buildings through backdoor
cool
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>>556313021
>Why? He's a good support. It's not his fault retards keep picking Learning Curve, instead of Fat Chance, and keep trying to play him as an ebin lane winner, then fail to win lane anyway.
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Huh. Someone should do some math, probably.

>Battlefury - okay for combat, clears neutral camps
>with some mobility, you can clear 5-8 camps ~400-700 gold per minute
>Morbid Mask + Mael - same as above, a bit slower, a bit shittier, but they build into late game items
>Radiance - you need illusions, but you can farm jungle AND lane at the same time

>Midas - 160 gold every 90 seconds
>+35 attack speed
>you don't even get bonus exp anymore
Huh. Is it the shittiest farming tool now?
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>>556312804
5 second BKB piercing disable
400 damage barrier (AOE talent btw) (global btw)
Support oneshotting base damage
Smattering of AOE slowing, healing and DPS

Yeah man I don't get it, all he does is win lane with superior trading, win mid with superior vision and win late with a BKB chicken ult- And he doesn't even need blink to put it on you since he has treewalking and invis

ok
sure
good bait, you got me

>>556313286
>keep trying to play him as a core
>then fail
Not me, I'm built different. This nerfed Midas glows with an awesome power
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>>556314970
Midas gives more GPM for less XPM compared to before
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>>556314585
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/ogre-magi
>Learning Curve
>Win rate 52.00%
>KDA 2.74
>Fat Chance
>Win Rate 49.93%
>KDA 2.53
If I accidentally called you out... I am not sorry, go fuck yourself. Now sit your ass back the fuck down, and pick the better facet, you useless faggot.
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>>556315256
Compared to... previous Midas? I'm not feeling it. I thought the entire point of Midas was the ebin XP multiplier bonus on balling mids, like Invoker. But, if it's just gold?

Mmm, Satanic-Mjol right clicker Invoker.
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>>556315706
Yeah compared to midas before, so it way faster to get value of it
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>>556315358
This is the same retarded "Methodical is totally better because I say so" argument. Learning Curve is shit, and always will be inferior to Fat Chance. Especially when Ogre will have 100+ STR by like 20:00 and thus, will have +6% multicast on every fucking cast. Being a useless melee creep doing nothing in lane for the first 2 minutes isn't actually better and I'm sick of shitters trying to justify it. Fuck you, you're the retard. And every fucking Ogre who picks Learning Curve.
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>>556316639
>This is the same retarded "Methodical is totally better because I say so" argument
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/phantom-assassin
>Sweet Release
>Win rate 50.32%
>KDA 2.88
>Methodical
>Win rate 43.38%
>KDA 2.23
Are you okay? Do you have brain damage? Learning Curve also reduces every talent requirement by 1 level, btw.
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>>556316960
You clearly weren't here for the past few years where HoNtrash were constantly arguing Methodical was "better" because it's "higher dps" and "higher winrate" when it was objectively inferior.
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Is the game dead? All roles, EUW and 11min in queue now
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>>556317253
Did they have stats to back it up?

Skill scaling in Doter means fun begins at level 3, and every Jakiro spamming level 1 Dual Breath to harass is a dumb rookie.

Learning Curve means it begins at level 2 for Ogre, instead.
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>>556314970
It also lets you get a faster neutral. But... More or less I never feel enthused to grab it... Consider you get it maybe by minute 8, a minute or two before Phylactery, 4 or 5 before Mjoln, 7 or 8 before Bfury

8 minutes before Bfury. A couple minutes shy of breaking even (when you sell the hand). You could more or less have the attack speed of a Glove for 10 minutes and get a slightly late Bfury otherwise (foregoing the incremental Pornucopia/+damage recipes parts).

Or you could just spend the two minutes of gold on a Glove of Haste. Build it to treads like a normal person and enjoy the superiority of that.

If you really enjoy the attack speed, however, it... Also only sets your timing for a Bfury back by about 1k gold, if you plan to hold onto it instead of sell it, and is then on a 100g per minute. So... How much is Bfury increasing your farm? If you get it three minutes late because of Midas, how many +~100g minutes do you need to offset that? 5 or more, maybe?

So MAYBE, MAYBE it's worth on heroes like Faceless, Ursa or MAYBE on carries that you're 110% certain are going to be relegated to farming side camps in the jungle and otherwise get sat on- Scenarios where you're getting limited access to farm, no matter how fast you can farm it.

(Herald 4 btw)
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phylactery storm
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Have you ever shit with so much force that it sprayed your ass and the entire throne in a 360 like a hippopotamus? I had opioid constipation and then I got chunky hot diarrhea. The pressure built up until it more or less exploded...What a predicament!
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gayben got me...
I bought the pass for the oroshi kirin and stygian zinogre lookin sets
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I like Fat Chance more than Learning Curve
But it's undeniable that you're more taxing economically with the latter than the former is likely to turn your game around.

Fat Chance will certainly grant you at least... An upgrade to a triple proc over a double proc, or so on, once or twice per game. But... Y'know the problem is really that you're getting a slightly better fireblast- MAYBE you oneshot a really unlucky support when you wouldn't have... Something like 1 in 10 times? You spread Ignite or Bloodlust to one extra person- Assuming they wouldn't have got it already (No value to multicast with only one target in range anyways)

The real problem you feel, I think, are players who think Ogre doesn't have to have a physical presence in lane with his meat at level 1 because of Learning Curve. What Learning Curve really has over Fat Chance is a nearly immediate "Buy three extra stacks of tangoes or fucking perish" tax that has a permanent economy impact and a "Fuck you, we party NOW" phase at level 5, where you can start pelting them to fish for double fireblasts and getting Bloodlust VALOO at least three or four times before they can get their ults to swing back.

Those two early legs up seem objectively superior to getting a couple quad casts (instead of triples) at 55 minutes.

And yet, even knowing and believing in that explanation
I dread a Learning Curve Ogre. I fear that he's going to stand behind the tower at level 1 while the enemy gleefully blocks our camps and denies every creep more than I fear a zero-impact facet
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>>556319053
you just have to be a meat shield? play aggro on em? lots of tangos?
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>>556318713
thx for funding wilds g sucker
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>>556311274
https://viewbots.com
https://viewbotter.com
https://www.theviewbot.com
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>>556320512
I like wilds
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>>556319053
Let's math it out:

Ogre starts with 25 STR + 4.2 per level. So we we set up checkpoints at say, lv 6, 12, 18, 25, and 30, we would have STR values of:
>46 / 69.1 / 101.9 / 139.3 / 160.3 STR
which translates to:
>+2.76% / +4.146% / +6.114% / +8.358% / +9.618%

Base Multicast spread is: 25% / 45% / 15% / 15%
In-game, Fat Chance Multicast is shown as: 75% / 30% / 15% which seems to just be (45+15+15)% / (15+15)% / 15% to match base Multicast. And then it adds the +% to all three tiers. Given the way it's represented, it seems like they add the +% purely to the 4x tier. So +5% becomes 20%/45%/15%/20%, and +10% becomes 15%/45%/15%/25% and so on.

So base Multicast would have a damage multiplier of: 1x0.25 + 2x0.45 + 3x0.15 + 4x0.15 = 220% damage per spell cast at lv 18.
Naked Fat Chance at lv 18 would have a damage multiplier of: 1x0.18886 + 2x0.45 + 3x0.15 + 4x.0.21114 = 238% damage.

Overall we can represent the DPS value as: (2x0.45 + 3x0.15) + (0.25 - 0.0006p) + 4x(0.15 + 0.0006p) = 2.2 + 3x0.0006p = 220% + 0.18% per STR
So the difference in DPS is simply: +0.18% per STR. It's just an objective increase in spell damage for existing. That part's certain. The question is, is it worth it?

Naked Ogre with only boots midas and maybe aghs would get +18% spell damage for existing, which is almost +10% more damage than base. This value can double if Ogre buys STR items instead of INT items like hex and shit. But he won't.
Veil of Discord is 1,725 gold for +10% spell damage amp, and also amps teammate spells.
Lina shard is 1,400 gold for +35% spell damage for herself.
So the facet itself can be about +1.5k net worth purely from a damage perspective. Doesn't consider multi-hexes and shit.

And then there's Midas:
220% of +160 gold per cast is average +352 gold per cast.
238% of +160 gold per cast is average +380.8 gold per cast.
So that's +28 gold per cast every 90 seconds, so that's +19 gpm.
So overall value, the facet gives you +1.5k + 19gpm for existing.
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Largo 15 5W 10L 33.33%
are pros retarded? why do they keep picking him
is it some sort of circlejerk? they should WANT the other team to pick him not to pick it themselves
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>>556327248
>are pros retarded?
The answer is always yes. Being more mechanically gifted than the majority doesn't mean they're better at theory. They're basically the gamer version of jocks.

>why do they keep picking him
Reddit is convinced that the utility value of the reduced mana cost and other auras is worth losing a hero slot. Somehow the trade-off is worth it, etc.

A speed aura bot is great in FPS games (e.g. Memewatch).
It's not the best in a MOBA. HotS for example imported Lucio and then gave him a fuckton of barriers and healing and he's still meh at best because he barely does any damage. Largo is in the same boat.
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>>556327094
Excepting that that's the output for casting raw (unrefined) Fireblasts- The damage of Ignite isn't increased, whereas just grabbing a Kaya is a genuine 10% damage boost, as opposed to the somewhat shakier conditional spikes of an increase in average output from 220% to 238% (all randomly loaded into 1 of 20 Fireblast casts)

I'm having trouble here, legitimately, imagining a hero that would prefer

>"At level 18, one basic ability of your choice has a 5% chance to doublecast"
(A strict upgrade over what Ogre actually gets, already having stacking multicast who is more likely to go from 2-3X to 4X)
over
>"Rank all 3 skills at level 2, take your ultimate at level 5, up to 3 points in one skill at level FOUR"

God, how menacing. I can't imagine any other hero that wouldn't be a fucking nightmare.
Imagine getting dogwalked at level 6 by a Zeus with rank 4 Chain Lightning

Ogre himself turns Ignite from 280 damage to 400 damage at 6 with Learning facet- That's a REAL ultimate, nevermind the chance for it to spread to creep/neutrals or excess TP/Ganks to lane or the chance to extend fireblast
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this is why ram is so expensive btw
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>>556328562
I think if you compare him to Ryze, the poster child of "Balanced for proplay" because of his team mobility spell- otherwise mediocre damage and immobile (aside from blowing Phase to be ungankgable mid).

But the League map is a lot smaller and more... Corridor based. Rotating seconds ahead of the enemy team enables you to pin them into more unfavorable tactical positions or make noticeable efficiency gains in your macro play.

Largo offers... playing a 4v5 for free smokes, clarities and tangoes?
A vast oversimplification of course, but (especially with the nerf to global projection on echo) he's not exactly forgiving in his distribution of power- You've got to well time the movement speed to manage range, the damage buff for when you're sending outgoing attacks and spells. The Echo barely makes up for the fact that Largo himself does very little personal damage, Frogstomp is pretty low range.

The dispel+displace seems rather nice but it's again feeling like you're stacking minor purchasable effects and that the edge you eke out is too narrow.

But maybe if we let them cook a a few thousand more games on the frog they'll figure out how to execute and coordinate to get him to 50/50 in pro play and nerfed to a mere 40% in Herald
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can't play ranked because I don't want to play the pos5 tax
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>>556329875
just pick weaver
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>>556329875
why not
dota has literally solved the support problem, supports are early game monsters that can man bully people out of lane then run around ganking other lanes with giant nuke spells, can do retarded shit like hold people in place for 10 seconds, and half of them scale and stay relevant damage-wise for the whole game
WHY won't people touch the role??
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>>556331926
core = alpha
support = beta
simple as
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>>556332123
So play Warlock or Undying or any other pos 5 core
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>>556331926
Probably because cores fume and seethe and throw if you so much as last hit a creep on 1 health (with a ranged bolt on the way) while they're out of attack range.

(And the game is designed to encourage this kind of zero-sum teetotalling gold fever)
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>>556286826
nah this is kino
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>>556286826
Based theme drafters
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Can someone explain to me why the role token shit still exists?
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>>556332627
AND YET NIGGERS SAY LAST HITTING IS A DUMB MECHANIC AND THEY'D RATHER FIGHT PLAYERS THAN FARM CREEPS
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heroes that can only be played after selling drugs to children?
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>>556333948
Chen
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How good is Phylactery on CK?
>2 point and click spells
>Mana Regen
>+ 6 all stats
Not like CK has any other must buy item
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>>556336028
i tried it and didnt like it, felt like a speedbump to getting armlet and aghs and blink and stuff online so you can really start owning the game
ck doesnt really have health or mana problems but he does if he starts casting chaos bolt on the creeps which he might have to do if he gets phylactery before armlet
even if you need the break from khanda eventually he could just get silver edge
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what are you meant to do when their mid clinkz gets a bit fed
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>>556338491
Blademail
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>>556338491
spooky scepter
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>>556336028
retarded ass item on ck
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>>556336028
Getting really fucking tired of these stupid phylactery memes. Especially on right-clickers.
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I had fun with phylactery axe
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>try to learn game vs workshop bots
>they deathball as five and they bully me
>try to learn game vs people
>my hero gets banned
>and they bully me
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>>556332627
I had my core throw the game and flame me for 30 minutes because i took one wave of creeps to stop Chen from constantly pushing us in with his fucking neutrals and we lost the game due to that.
Dude was constantly saying that "support will get items dont worry XD" and shit like that.
It wasnt even a character that can clear all Chen creeps easly, 0 AoE spells.
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>>556344351
Coretroons are retarded like that, yes.
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>>556343567
Yup. That's every Dota 2 newbie experience.
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>see that deadlock added another bitch
>check deadlock threads and reddits and whatever else
>fanbase is 100% furries and tumblrcore shipoids
goodness
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>>556344549
is there a mode with no hero bans? being a one-trick is more my speed in these types of games..
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>>556344925
No
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>>556344925
Nope. You're not "maining" your way out of this one, buddy.
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>>556344817
Pudge is unique. And there will never be another like him.

Hopefully, the item autism will keep the dumb cunts out and in their Rivals cesspit.
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L A R G OMEGALUL
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>>556328562
None of this means Largo is bad, there are plenty of heroes that do fuckall damage and are still incredibly strong, like Treant. People just haven't figured out what drafts Largo fits into best but when he clicks he's quite strong.
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What time does the Monster Hunter event end? UTC, EST, whatever give me a time with a time code I'll convert it I just wanna know.
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>>556344925
Just learn like 3-4 heroes for whatever role you want to play.
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wish me luck guys!
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The problem with Largo is that he needs his aghs + a lot of mana to be strong which requires taking up a core role but having one of your cores be solely utility with no damage is very hard to fit into a draft. He just needs a buff to his mana problems and he'd be able to be played as a support more easily.
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>>556345453
I mean, sure, but there's no babes. How am I supposed to expand my hero pool if there are no babes? 99% of the characters in this game are monsters or wrinkly old ladies, I hate it. I need more characters that look like Marci or Wei.
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>>556345771
>Marci or Wei
yikes...
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>>556345870
What!! They're pretty! And they're so versatile; I could dress them up in almost anything (or nothing at all) and they'd still look good. Especially Wei, she is surprisingly girly.
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>>556336028
It's shit, the damage on Phylactery is negligible when you could just be buying an Armlet and critting for more instead, and the slow is wasted on Chaos Bolt. The only thing it really gives you is the mana regen which is not worth the cost.

It works on a hero like PL because he actually has sustain problems and the damage and slow stacking with lance is broken. CK benefits from none of that.
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>>556345771
go back
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SLAHSERS WAY
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>>556346018
Windrunner is superior, and she's not even the best dota girl
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>>556346303
I mean, thats fair, and I thought about it long and hard, but I just don't like her nose.
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>>556345771
What a basic bitch pleb you are.
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>>556346567
Get the arcana
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auroth is the hottest dota girl
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>>556346928
for me it's luna
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>>556346928
she is explicitly not hot but she is sexy, attractive and my mom wife girlfriend
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>>556345474
yeah we lost
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Hoodwink is the hottest dota girl
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Frog status?
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>>556344925
You should try out as many heroes as you can instead of sticking to the first one out of five heroes you try. Because (a) you need to learn the game, and (b) you never know who you'll actually like.
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>its another "my team refuses to kill roshan and feeds kills so intead of the game being 35 minutes at most its 55" episode
holy fuck am i glad we had a warlock that just used 6 golems on their fucking face when they grouped because my hero is utterly dogshit late game
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should i play against real people today
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its a shot calling mierda mid dogson wannabe is shotcalling while not accomplishing shit in 50 mins episode
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>>556315201
A tree killed you.
A tree!
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>>556355021
what
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Man, new dota heroes have this weird voice filter i dont understand why
Slark on the other hand has the coolest "fish underwarter" voice filter, sounds badass
Shadow fiend sounds terrifying, as he should
But the new ones sound so weird...Largo and ring master have a weird ass filter, and i believe hoodwink had it as well until they removed it and it 100% improved it
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Is there a more honest hero than Axe?
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zeus facet
>"Fuck This Guy In Particular"
invoke is now a single target ability (still global) on a 30 second cooldown
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>>556357814
bounty hunter is the most honest hero in dota
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>>556358917
too bad the hero only amounts to being "hory shit gold!" and does literally nothing outside of that
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>>556359209
that what makes him honest
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>>556359351
yeah but he's boring as hell
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>>556359427
more so its an acquired taste he isnt that boring
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>>556357814
there's not a single honest hero left in this trashfire of a game
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>>556359427
He's the best pos 4 this patch
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>>556360357
sven
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>>556358917
anything with invisibility aint honest
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>>556362401
Invisibility is the most honest mechanic in the game.
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>>556363631
you are the most dishonest poster in the general
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>>556363898
t. bad
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>>556362004
hideous creature
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>>556362004
i bet she has a smelly pussy
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>>556364689
dive in fellas
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>>556362004
I want to cum all over space buns
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>>556362004
The face she makes after you grope her ass and Space Buns
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can anyone explain to me exactly why there is a sniper on my team literally every single game I play?
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>>556367216
ho ho
ha ha
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>>556366972
>>556367153
NATural beauty
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Is commending an opponent considered toxic?
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>>556369073
no
its a sign of good sportsmanship
especially if you allow them to commend first
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Face it, this game is fucking dead.
Everyone gets update but you, dotards.
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If I ran Dota, every hero would be an anime girl and Dota the MOBA would be a sister component to a girl collector gacha game.
Boom, 50 million monthly players.
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>>556369405
dota's update is barely 2 weeks old
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>>556369530
That would be Iran Dota yeah
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>>556369530
>wanting to share the game with 50million fellow coomer bugmen
nty
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>>556369530
Gachatroons can't play games with actual gameplay, your idea wouldn't work.
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>>556369723
right, because you have such deep appreciation for the current crop of dota players
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>>556369546
>minor number tweaks
>update
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>>556369790
id rather have them over coomers any day of the week
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>>556369876
>nooo it doesnt count cause i said so
cope
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Crownfall 2 soon bros!
Doomposters seething lol!
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>wowee, Doom has +1 armor, thanks for the major update, Valve. You are so based.

meanwhile other games get 5 new heroes dropped and major engine and hud changes. lol.
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Is this nigger actually glazing OVERWATCH
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>>556370265
>reee this game in open beta is getting more contant than my decade old game
go play dedcuck then fag
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>>556369782
isn't that exactly what the trend is rn with genshin and genshinlikes
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>>556370417
overwatch is 10 years old
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>>556370321
I mean it was already obvious that he's a shill figures he might as well tell us straight up
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>>556370502
overwatch didnt get an update
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>>556370635
ok
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>>556370635
It got a major overhaul announced just yesterday
they are basically remaking the entire game.
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I'm halfway from the sets, turbo or normal for faster materials?
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>>556370683
>>556370710
ow (formerly ow2) isnt 10 years old now is it
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>>556370710
because it's so shit it basically needs to be remade
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>>556370783
2016 game of the year
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>>556370865
yes
an entirely different game than the one receiving the patch, no?
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>>556370930
not really
its a live service game like dota 2
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>>556370930
You talk as if Dota wasn't completely raped beyond recognition and its completely the same as it was 10 years ago.
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>>556371103
when did dota2 get rebranded as dota?
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>>556367216
are you, by any chance, below 2k?
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>>556371132
what is your opinion on current techies?
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>>556371526
Retarded and BROOL-core but nowhere near as cancerous as OG Techies.
Absolutely nobody liked playing against it or with him. thats why it got removed.
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>/d2g/ talking about Overwatch
My opinion on this topic is that DotA 2 triggers my social anxiety HARD to the point that I can only bring myself to play one match a week, if that. Meanwhile Overwatch 2, I don't know what it is with that game, but it feels so "safe". I can spam 30 matches back-to-back without experiencing my usual symptoms like the intense self-consiousness, the fear of bad plays, and the rumination that comes after a DotA match where I think about "that one teamfight where I used my spell wrong". In Overwatch I can just make mistake after mistake and my Reinhart will look at me and say "Danke!". Meanwhile in DotA there's a revision of my behaviour every 15 matches and I get to see exactly how much everyone hated playing with me in numerical form.
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I'm not reading that shit
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>>556371758
kys redditor
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>>556371873
probably because in overwatch you get banned for every daring to think about saying a nono word
meanwhile in dota the mentally ill autists call you a retarded nigger faggot every 2 seconds
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>updates ruined dota
>also fuck dota for not updating more
what causes this
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>>556371873
Because in OW if you are good enough Tank or DPS you can 100% Carry by yourself.
Whereas you can't in dota unless you play a cheese script hero like meepo or arc warden.
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>everyone who disagrees with me is reddit
epin!
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about to ruin some russians game in 2k mm :3
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>>556372326
holy based
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>>556372141
I want valve to rectify their shit changes like the OW team is doing and going back to what was good.
Not add more stupid shit on top.
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>>556372141
Doomtrannies aren't very intelligent
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>>556372442
and add more non binary womxn of color?
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>>556372502
?????????
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>>556372442
>back to what is good
>by introducing new heroes
lmao
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>>556372442
The game is better than ever.
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>>556372765
>Getting more content and better designed content is bad.
You are probably the same guy who thinks minor letter patches are content.
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>>556372925
so much for going back to what was already good
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>>556372983
Lets talk about what is dota doing.
Oh wait, they are aren't doing shit because this shitty game is dead since Valve is working on Deadlock now.
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>>556373270
>Lets talk about what is dota doing
running 2 hat events concurrently while releasing gameplay updates
dota2 is fine
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>>556373270
>two concurrent events
>new hero
>new event coming soon
yeah the game is so dead just play Activision-Blizzard's hit game Overwatch instead...
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dota could go without a single patch for 3 years and it'd still be better than all the other dogshit on the market
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>>556373424
>events
>its just regular dota with some sprinkles on top.
>gameplay update
>Item nobody ever buys in pubs can be disassembled now.

Wow.
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>>556373647
i think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what dota is supposed to be. this is typical for spillover players from league but you should understand that your expectations are stupid and likely to be met with pushback and mockery
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>>556373484
>New event coming soon
?????????
They haven't hinted at anything (why would they, its valve we are speaking of) unless you are talking about some random leak from reddit that has 0 evidence behind it.
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>>556373647
>i need events that arent dota to play dota
nice cope
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>>556373757
>>556373784
They don't even update or even try to fix any of the shit they implemented over the years.
Im positive that out of the 72gb the game takes up, only 40% is the actual game+hats, rest is abandoned features.
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>>556374189
>new cope
they just released a bug fixing patch
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This but nude Ephey hero too
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List of Abandoned/Broken Dota 2 Features:

>Unit Query Panel / Enemy Inspect
>Ranked Roles
>Dota+ as a whole
>Guilds
>MVP System
>Arcade games, (Remember Overthrow or 10v10?)
>Battle Cups
>Annual Ranked Season
>Overwatch System
>Report system
>Behavior Score System
>Tutorials
>Weather/Maps/Announcer Packs
>Yearly Battle Pass

I'm sure there are more that I'm forgetting right now,

All of these haven't been updated in literal years or are barely maintained. Hero Progression still has tons of uncompletable quests due to reworks, but hey we get some fucking stickers nobody cares about and have very little purpose or implementation in the game, lmao.
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>>556375486
I would ask you what is Abandoned/Broken about several of the things you listed, but I doubt you care enough to explain.
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>>556375486
oh no not a bunch of features that having nothing to do with gameplay!
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>>556375689
He's coping.
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I hate this game so god damn much.
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>>556375689
You don't play the game enough if you need explanation for all of that.
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>>556376136
But how come?!? Wha happun?
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>>556376450
>you cant expect me to explain why i think these features are abandoned/broken you got to do that for yourself
as expected you are posting in bad faith
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>my pos 5 tps mid for no reason after i die to something i didnt see coming but 100% dead
>he feeds the enemy mid another kill after 10 sec
>his pos 1 dies because he tpd mid
>he now walks it down mid and goes afk for 20 min
thanks for this extremely low skill acc buyer valve
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>>556376545
>posting in bad faith
Total opposite, retard, I care too much about this game.
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>>556376778
yet youre too lazy/incompetent to explain about those features
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>>556376957
If you actually played, you would 100% know by now.
You are the one posting in bad faith.
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>>556377106
you can nou me as much as you want
its your burden
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>>556377106
Keep coping.
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unit query is still there if you want to enable it
bad faith confirmed
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>>556377723
Its bugged to fuck because they added so much stupid shit its pointless, enemy heroes have so much shit on them its practically impossible to glance.
>Talents
>Facets
>Neutrals
>Backpack items.
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Remember Kez?
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Marci lovin'! Marci pickin'!
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>>556377950
>it doesnt work cause i said so
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>>556378916
It literally doesn't work anymore, faggot.
Disabling or enabling the option does nothing. The hero info should appear in the right side without replacing your main HUD
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>>556379172
only 13 more items to explain
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>>556371873
No one is stopping their bunny hopping in Overwatch to type at you
You're still selling that motherfucker and wasting all your abilities in the worst way
It's just that nobody can take time to educate you on how badly you've just ruined their experience without realizing it

The danke was sarcastic
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>Unit Query Panel / Enemy Inspect
Broken >>556379172
>Ranked Roles
Its just normal ranked with labels, it hasn't been modified or updated in the slightest, people can still pick whatever the hell they want even if they hard support. (because le everything can work right?) Just play Normal Ranked or Unranked, its the same shit.
>Dota+ as a whole
Shard store hasn't been updated in years, Dota plus guides are worthless and most of the time the automatic "AI" guide fucks out and gives you stupid recommendations or doesnt at all. Stats are free on Open Dota / Stratz
>Guilds
No incentives to do anything with them other than to pick up welfare 500 shards every week. "rewards" are basically guaranteed if you join any guild with more than 5 people. No point past that.
>MVP System
The game has no system to detect if you make any play or actually had real impact, It will mostly just detect who got the most kills or made the most stuns.
>Arcade games, (Remember Overthrow or 10v10?)
Valve hasn't made any custom games since 10v10 or incentivized people to revisit arcade by releasing older events as playable game modes.
>Battle Cups
Literally the same as they were in day 1, the only thing they added was a Shard reward when dota+ dropped. Could've been an excellent addition with exclusive tournament hats or that you can only get by winning or anything to incentivize competitiveness in a competitive game. Could've been extended into ranked with some creativity.
>Annual Ranked Season
They added the medals and completely forgot about it. Rank has stagnated incredibly hard without any sort of reset, and its gotten worse with the double down, MMR inflation is real and basically ruined any worth medals had. You can be immortal and still be a fucking dogshit player. lets not even talk about the god awful drafting system in immortal.
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>>556380414
>The danke was sarcastic
No it wasn't, I got 4 commends after that match which means he had to have commended me. Whatever. Doesn't matter.
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>>556380647
see you arent incompetent
you just needed to be goaded into fulfilling your burden like a bitch would
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>Overwatch System
Same as it was day 1, You can't even tell if the faggot you acted upon got punished or not. You get 0 incentive to make good judgement calls. not even welfare shards.
>Report system
Literally broken, I reported multiple obvious people griefing my matches and none of them ever got punished, or even got a notification they were sent an Overwatch case.
>Behavior Score System
Worked the first week, then Quinn cried he got banned for being a toxic fuck, then it was made worthless. Reporting people does nothing.
>Tutorials
Bugged to fuck, tons of graphical glitches, last time I saw projectile disjoint tutorial was bugged because of Tinker reworked, doesn't get updated to teach dota.
>Weather/Maps/Announcer Packs
Abandoned by valve, there was this post of the mod of the system shock/Nightdive subreddit reached out to the shodan voice actress to make a pack, paid her to do all the voices, reached valve and literally got told "We don't do those anymore"
>Yearly Battle Pass
Abandoned as mentioned in that one fateful blog post during the 10th year anniversary.
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>>556380647
>>556381220
tl:dr
>these features don't work as i want them to therefore they are broken
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>>556380796
And yet you have the gall to call others out for posting in bad faith, fucking retard.
No wonder you game and your general is fucking dead.
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>>556381426
if i didnt accuse you of posting in bad faith you wouldnt have done anything
you made an explanation to spite me, you lazy piece of shit
go kill yourself
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>the game is dead because... IT JUST IS
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>>556381543
You are too predictable.
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>>556381913
bark for me dog
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Fun fact: The last ranked season update was in 2020.
We are technically still in Season 5.
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I remember a guy going
'>X thing I dont like
I euthanize'

Was this the general for that
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>>556383496
What the fuck is a "season"
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>>556384361
yeah
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>>556303748
I watched the matumba interview from a month ago and since him and jerax are both finns the only conclusion I can draw is that jerax yearns for a boring office job even though he has millions, as a way to just spend his time. At least thats what matumba was going for
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>>556384904
link?
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>>556385024
search for khezu matumba interview on yt
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shouldn't abyssal blade active range adjust to your own attack range?
you have fucking crawl up who evers asshole you want to stun on most heroes
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>>556385528
member when you could blink with it? that's my guess why going going up assholes to use the active
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>>556385726
no the active range is just fucking abysmal being 150
pretty sure nearly every melee hero has a longer range than that
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inb4
>we are pressing the delay button on this event instead of releasing a new one because..... uhhhh..... WE LOVE OUR PLAYERS!
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>>556389287
thanks daddy valve
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>>556389287
we luv you gayben
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should i buy the monster hunter shit? will i get fomo once its gone
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https://www.twitch.tv/venusvania the most beautiful dota player is live
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>>556313427
>stupid fucking autopilot faggot shitsucking subhuman peabrain nigger hero
exactly why i have ogre banned
5 months back ogre being ppicked was autiopilot nigger shit
people are a bit nbetter now...
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>>556390028
thats a man
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>>556390028
https://www.twitch.tv/usednapkin8
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>>556392086
0 viewers
spent 10 years playing this game
still guardian (on US servers)
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pos 4 jungle alch, first aghs at 21 minutes
8.4k mmr
meanwhile im playign 3v1 mid on EVERY rune from 6 to 16 min
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>>556392193
EPIC SHITPOST
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holy shit is laning against pudge so autistic
ward, when he basically is uncontested because hes tanky as shit and hook nukes you for 40% hp into rot slow so its hard to keep up vision
constantly have to think about my position because of his dog ass fucking hook like im defusing a bomb that goes off every second
is there a hero that curb stomps this nigger or what?
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that was a long fuckin fight
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>get Hard Support
>pick Lina instead of Lion
>win
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>>556375486
>Ranked Roles
>Dota+ as a whole
>Guilds
>MVP System
>Arcade games, (Remember Overthrow or 10v10?)
>Battle Cups
>Overwatch System
>Report system
>Behavior Score System
These all work fine
>Annual Ranked Season
>Yearly Battle Pass
These are both dogshit and it's good they've been abandoned.
>Weather/Maps/Announcer Packs
>Unit Query Panel / Enemy Inspect
who cares
>Tutorials
One (1) actual issue but it also doesn't affect 99.9% of the people playing this game.
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>>556394439
>Valve sharted the bed with Artifact before Naga, Wind, Mireska or Ench could get art
I'll never forgive them.
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>>556389287
What fucking event.
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>>556394750
Dark willow has Artifact art tho.
So does Enchantress.
and im sure Windrunner does tho.
Never seen naga tho.
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>>556394443
just pick aa and suffocate him out of lane
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>>556394912
Wait, they do? I remember not seeing any at launch.
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>>556394443
>constantly have to think about my position
NO, YOU HAVE TO DO CONSTANTLY -THINK- ABOUT YOUR POSITION? WTF BAWWWWWWWW
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I am sorry but i might be retarded.
Can someone explain to me like im retarded how the fuck does Monkey Kings passive/stack thingy works?
Why does he suddenly tripple his damage with insane life steal and gains like 20% of range (or is his range jus that long).
I read the spells but i dont get it still, it doesnt get used until you attack or something like i cant figure it out holy fuck me.
What is the general rule when fighting him, hit twice and run away or what?
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>>556395060
how does it counter him if im squishy and he can just hook me when i step badly once
>>556395147
go on retard, you know that i mean how it works with his hook and positioning between creeps when they constantly move, no other hero in lane requires you to put that much effort into looking out for each step and being scared to go and check wtf is going on at the hard camp
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>>556395157
When he attacks you he puts a counter on you. If that counter reaches 4, he gets 4 attacks with bonus damage and lifesteal. If he starts putting stacks on you, you should retreat and wait until they expire, if he gets the 4 upgraded attacks he can use them on anyone, not just the one that he farmed them from
>and gains like 20% of range (or is his range jus that long).
his BMC is that long all the time
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>>556395157
When he hits an enemy hero it puts a debuff on them.
If he hits them 4 times while the debuff is active he gets a buff that gives lifesteal and a damage boost.
> gains like 20% of range (or is his range jus that long).
Monkey just innately has slightly higher attack range than other melee heroes.
>What is the general rule when fighting him, hit twice and run away or what?
Don't let him get 4 hits or disable and kill him before he can use the lifesteal.
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>>556395310
Playing ring around the roses in lane really isnt that hard
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>>556395446
Also bonus fact, his stun counts as one hit required to get the bonus attacks. So if he gets 3 counters on you, he will instantly cast Boundless Strike on you, get the 4 buffed lifesteal attacks, and rape your stunned asshole.
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>>556395606
>>556395446
>>556395758
Holy shit so thats how it works, he puts a debuff on ENEMIES.
I was always so confused how i check his buffs, he doesnt have it but then attacks me once and gets it, and sometimes i feel like he should get it in next auto but attack me 3 times and i kill him before he gets it.
Does he have to stack 4 on the same target and it resets when he swaps a target or every enemy hero can have stacks at the same time? (So when he attacks me 3 times and then my ally then i reset to 0 stacks but my ally has 1 now, or do i keep my 3 and my ally has 1 too)
Thank you.
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>>556395950
>Does he have to stack 4 on the same target
yes
>and it resets when he swaps a target
no
>or every enemy hero can have stacks at the same time?
yes
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>>556395310
>>556394443
> and positioning between creeps when they constantly move
It's really not hard. Just prioritize buying boots if you're laning against him.
>and being scared to go and check wtf is going on at the hard camp
This is just not true at all, there are so many heroes that are way more threatening when you try to contest a pull than fucking Pudge.
>ward
Don't just put them in the middle of the jungle like an idiot, you can put them in the lane where it's easier to protect them and still get good vision. You don't need constant vision of Pudge at all times you just need to know where he isn't.
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>>556395950
>I was always so confused how i check his buffs, he doesnt have it but then attacks me once and gets it
You never noticed the giant numbers that appear above your head when he hits you? Are you stupid?
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>>556395838
>>556396196
Thanks anon, I'll search for them
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Dota has never been the same since 7.00
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>>556396748
this is true between every version actually
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>>556396090
what pos 5 can contest Pudge level 1-4?
im not saying its hard, im saying it requires much more conscious effort to deal with it, yeah, you get used to it but i dont have 5k hours in the game, im at like 300 (with 30% of it most likely not spent playing) and pudge is so often banned that i dont see him this often thankfully
i usually ward behind enemies from the side of their tower and somewhere in my jungle close to my tower so he cannot just walk up and kill it that easly but having to go and contest his pull or block his camp is exhausting, ill try to ward more from outside my tower to see location where hes going, thanks
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is chen any good in pubs this patch
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>>556396416
Yes and Yes. For some reason i always thought the number is above his head.
Also, why is it so hard to see him when hes on a tree, when a Night Stalker is flying between trees, you notice him much easier. You basically have to walk up to Monkey Kings tree to even see that hes on it.
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small map plez
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how the fuck is titanic a tier 5 enchant
that shit is so fucking ass man
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>Boot up deadlock
>GPU at maximum usage
>Boot up Dota
>GPU Sits at 40% at most.
>still less FPS than Deadlock.
Fix your fucking shit, Valve.
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>>556397634
uncap your fps silly guy hehe
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will he suff from the monster hunter event go on sale on the steam market? how much do you think the immortals from the crafting will cost
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>>556397879
it is uncapped.
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>>556396827
>what pos 5 can contest Pudge level 1-4?
Tree, Tusk, Ogre, Veno, Lich, Jakiro, Warlock, etc.
Pudge is really not strong until he starts building up stacks, he can really only kill you if he hooks you under tower or into his teammate or something otherwise most supports will beat him in a straight up fight. So just don't get hooked.
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>>556398196
thats bad for your 'puter anon!
cap it to your refresh rate+1 or use vsync if you can stomach it
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>>556398246
how does a squishy hero like warlock or lich or jakiro contest him, i can understand tusk or treant protector or even ogre/veno but squishy hero gets hooked and dies 1v1 or runs away scared, you basically have to dodge the hook everytime
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>>556398686
as opposed to getting hooked on purpose?
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>>556399670
what?
thats not really an answer to what i asked but if im playing a tidehunter pudge can go ahead and hook me into his team so i ravage them all and win the fight
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>>556399670
you can cheat and get an early blade mail, think about it dotards
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>you can cast spells on heroes affected by BKB
wtf
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>drop fiends gate on my teammates before a fight
>they still opt to walk there 90% of the time
this is so fucking frustrating
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>>556399915
I MEAN LVL 3 PUDGES WONT HAVE MEAT SHIELD AND YOU CAN EASILY WIN A FIGHT WITH THEM IF COORDINATED AS THEY WILL HAVE LVL 2 ROT DEALING 60 DAMAGE A SECOND TO THEMSELVES IN MOST LINEUPS
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>>556398309
does nothing because this game cannot make use of my computer. it runs between 90-120 fps regardless of graphic settings.
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>>556394750
>>556394439
rihanna?
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I love it when my retarded nigger teammates block my pathing
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>>556251408
I'm so tired of ogre magi midas 'supports'
Can't get out of my shit rank because every single game, I have a midas it's ogre magi on my team while the enemy picks CANCER supports like shaman
every single game, the enemy is a witch doctor and shaman
my team has a pudge and an ogre retard every single game
I won ONE game that had an ogre on my team in these weeks
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>>556252093
I feel like dota is too old at this point
it's like a 'classic' game at this point
do you see a shitton of cs 1.6/source videos?
dota is the same
the game is figured out at this point
it's like making a video about chess or checkers
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>play spectre
>press ult
>it doesn't spawn an illusion on every enemy
>haunt into the middle of the enemy team because i was trying to haunt onto the illusion that didn't spawn
?????????????????????????????????????
NICE FUCKING GAME
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>queue for all 5 positions
>get hard support again
I'm maxed out on my role-tokens but it's just funny.
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i am watching this arteezy guy on twitch the third game now i think and he is everygame in a terrible mood, flaming his teammates like everything they do is just the worst possible choice, constantly throwing a tantrum that he wont come to fights if hes teammate doesnt do something
just now he stood afk as a pos 1 weaver while being way ahead
what a miserable existence
it surprises me that people like that just arent banned by now
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classic forced 50
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>>556406730
viper puckl and mk are not very guaranteed wins like a fv or lc
mk is kinda good but another simple carry is just gg
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*spits on you*

How do you respond?
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>>556407335
*dies*
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>>556407335
Forgot image
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>Huskar position 5
>sits in the jungle AFK auto attacking the same camp for 5 minutes straight
le only constant.
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>>556389934
I guess the dragon form's cool. Worth that much money? Prob not.
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>>556407598
https://youtu.be/CTUwXZzl5M0
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>>556394617
>Report system
>Working
>Behaviour score
>Working
??????????
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>>556389934
Its not worth it. Nobody actually cares.
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i am about to play pos 1 for the first time ever and will stick to it
what pick do i take to be the most annoying cunt to my teammates from these:
>troll
>lifestealer
>monkey king
>luna
>sven
>ursa
?
yes i will be learning in ranked i do not care
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>Ranked match
>nobody marks anything on the map
>nobody types anything regarding picks
>nobody moves from spawn
>nobody buys anything
?????????
700k players my ass, these are fucking bots.
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>>556409579
void
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>>556409579
Just pick jugg
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>>556409885
why?
>>556409878
why?
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>>556410016
Jugg is easy and good
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what should i draw?
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>>556410691
me being happy
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>>556410691
Venator, who just came out.
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what farm item should pos 1 venge buy? Maelstrom?
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Forced50 when?
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>>556399806
If you're getting constantly hooked, you have bad positioning.
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>>556411045
the uninstall wizard
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>>556411045
>Pos 1 Venge
glad your shit game is dead.
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Phlactery PL is such a dogshit fucking cancer to play against.
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>>556410916
what makes you happy?
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>>556398686
>how does a squishy hero like warlock or lich or jakiro contest him,
You cast your spells on him and hit him. Pudge will die faster.
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>>556408095
how are you 1k mmr after 10k games bro
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>>556414608
He's the only constant.
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>>556414608
YOU THINK IM AN NPC? IM HIGH EVERY GAME ALSO
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will watching more basketball anime make me a better carry
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>Matched with the team that has 3-47% accounts with no games or very few games
Im very close to uninstalling this shit game.
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There is no room in dota for bullying. Stop being mean and hurting people's feelings.
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>>556419449
this, dota is a safe space for all
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quick rundown on being a good support?
pulling pro tips?
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>>556409579
lifestealer when they have a jugg or luna on enemy so you can ult into a teammate when they ult on you in jungle
it's hilarious getting pinged for this
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>crafting all my stickers since event is ending tonight-ish
>craft 100 sets of sticker capsules
>craft a 101st set to see the error message
>don't get an error message
>inventory has 1,010 sticker capsules
wut

Wasn't there supposed to be a limit?
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best treasure to open? or not at all since they are all a scam
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>>556422997
if your goal is to play dress up, just buy the hats on the market
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>>556415236
I'm more akin to a scalar.
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>>556423096
what about the set that says "in treasure"? how long afterwards do they come on the market?
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my grub is jigglin on its own!
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**********ORIGINAL THOUGHT**********

i think it would be cool if trees didnt grow back after they were destroyed, it would give mass tree destruction heroes a niche and be cool to see where fights happened later in the game as well as create interesting new farming routes
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>>556424025
timbersaw hands typed this post
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>>556424025
REMEMBER TREE CUTTING BATTLE PASS GOALS
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>>556424127
you caught me but that doesnt make me wrong
wc3 had a mission where you had to buy goblin shredders and go find things trapped out in the trees and that was one of the funnest missions so it would be cool if dota did that
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>>556424127
This would be a massive nerf for Timber, you'd run out of convenient trees to chain to very quickly.
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>>556416569
Bluelock
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>>556420954
never pull before lotus (2:30 and 5:30 waves) matter of fact tell your core to push the lane as far as possible so that the enemy lane has to farm it near or under their tower, giving you resource advantage
harass with autoattacks constantly, if you stay behind youre core you're ruining his game. if you have a harass spell use it but autoattacks are more important, try to get as many licks in
constantly buy resources for you and your core, tangoes, clarity, blood grenades. winning the lane is about having a sustenance advantage. dont come out to the lane with boots and a grenade or null talisman and 3 tangoes.
for pulling timing im sure theres a guide online for the exact timer to do so, also learn to half pull so your core and you don't get dove under your tower
you can zone the enemy lane by just running at them and harassing with spell and autoattacks.
honestly play the meta supports and you're fine also. dont go around picking the likes of bane and oracle if you can play jakiro, shadow shaman, disruptor or treant
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>>556424025
>i think it would be cool if [treant protector disappeared]
sure fuck it
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Why do lane creeps ignore the troll summoner skeletons?
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Dota 2 PowerPoints here, thank you very much for your continued support!

>>556269159
It took off a lot faster than I expected, which I'm grateful for.

>>556252093
I encourage you to try making the kind of content you'd like to watch.
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>retard mid picks drow
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>>556419449
Deadlock is more toxic than dota honestly
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>>556426180
Are you being attacked within range of your creeps agro by them? You can't just pull them into them, they need to draw agro by attacking you.
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>>556429183
not really
I'd say the amount of third worlders playing dota is far more poisonous than any amount of rudeness you might encounter in deadlock
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enjoyed a game as aa with a shard where we were siegeing the enemy base (slowly because they had a sniper and techies) and i went way back to the lotus pool and fired nukes every 40s until i hit enough people at once for my pos 3 to blink in and snatch someone
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marcibros wtf...
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>>556429183
i have niggas on all mute cant stand NA deadlock players pausing min 0 saying lame ass jokes not playing to win the list can go on
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monster hunter ends tomorrow
did you put all your stuff in the blender for stickers yet
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ENOUGH
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>>556432973
I miss when hook had dogshit range at level.
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I couldn't unlock the palico styles.
Only the Rathalos one.
Not even one poogie style.
This event is dogshit.
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>>556433615
Did you play one game a week?
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>>556433826
I played a lot
If the enemy picks something that doesn't net you the materials you need, you make very little progress.
I haven't seen rathalos parts in weeks.
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https://voca.ro/18ZRjgxkIBsL Bacteria Blast!
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>>556434051
I didn't even play for the first month the event was on and I still had enough to fully complete every set but WR (who I don't care about).
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hmm...
I'm getting assraped and my teammate marci is on his way to save me...
should I run towards him so he can rebound?
or away from him ensuring that I die and that he's out of position and dies too...
hmm........
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wanna learn lycan, lone druid, and chen
which should I ruin the nights of nine people with first?
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>>556434921
chen
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>jugg walks slowly at the enemy team after every fight and then gets silenced and dies
>every single fucking time
>lose a completely winnable game because of it
feral animals learn faster than this fucking nigger
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>>556375486
Dotards?
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You know what, I'm fucking sick of Dota.
It's not worth it anymore.
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>>556444104
see you tomorrow, mason
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I'm the same age as aui and hsven't won TI a single time
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waaaah I'm retarded and did nothing to help my carry and in fact tried my hardest to hold him back but it's his fault for not carrying us waaaaaah
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I'm loving Jakiro and Lion. The amount of hard CC just FUCK over the enemy carries that don't buy bkb and straight up turn the tide of battle even if I die after dumping all the spells
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>>556434705
Fun fact, if you try to save someone who is drowning, and they grab onto you, the correct response is to push them away and let them drown!
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>>556447865
this guy was drowning in a kiddie pool and with his last dying breath slammed a loose floor tile against my head
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>>556446104
this never happens i only rape my lane to death and cause the enemy team to dwell upon me exclusively for 30 minutes while my 4/0/1 carry goes jungle for 40 minutes and the enemy team realizes that they're up one guy so they just ball at us
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>>556251408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEgCMHQp-VE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEgCMHQp-VE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEgCMHQp-VE
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>>556434921
chen
even if you only have two fingers and a single braincell you can still press exort and invoke when someone is about to die
so long as you do that you have free license to goof around with your creeps as much as you want
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my clinkz is 3-15 this game fucking sucks
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>>556405483
Put in the effort, and you're already faster to rank up than every griefer/token farming tard.

Also, is Bounty Hunter an offlane or soft support?
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Just a concept you should know. I thought my Void was owning, and he kinda was but the asshole was poor as fuck just running at heroes, had we lost one teamfight after I got online we would had lost 100%. This was a 35 minute game.

This is like 9 out of 10 reasons you lose games you are winning after a bad fight, you cant recover nethworth wise. If the guy had been farming camps between fights he would be two times stronger and the game way less throwable.

Know when to farm while being aggressive and pushing your advantage, anything else is griefing.
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>>556454309
>Bounty Hunter an offlane or soft support?
Grief position, dont pick him.
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>>556455209
Yeah, I want to grief the enemy by picking Bounty and taking all their gold with skills and items.
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>>556455278
He cant lane for shit, you are playing a cheesy all in hero.
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>>556425264
My favorite genre is my support pulling min 3 after I been controlling the lane under tower and getting dove by Tusk Axe then getting my timer pinged
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I'm only at 6k mmr now bros...
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guess the hero
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>>556456060
QoP with a hairdo?
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>>556456418
correct. why did she copy lina's hair color and style? lol
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after one (1) game i think the timbersaw facet that ISNT the second chakram might be more correct
it doesnt cost any mana and slows them good and makes chain do more damage, while the second chakram has a really long cd and will probably miss
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Marci Marci Marci! I made her out of clay! Marci Marci Marci! As Marci I shall play!
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>>556456952
It depends entirely on how many other tree choppers are in the game.

Phoenix, Beastmaster, Earth Spirit and others are notorious woodcutters. I know you like to LARP, but Timber is comically useless without trees. Twisted Chakram at least gives you something.
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I HECKIN LOVE BROOOOOLIN!
EVERY GAME BEING AURA ITEMS AND 5-MAN IN 10MIN IS SO MUCH FUUUUUUN!
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>Exort facet Invo
>highest pick rate among the 3
>lowest winrate
>Wex face Invo
>highest winrate
>lower pick rate
Hmmm
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>>556458930
everyone thinks they are ferrario430 with invoker and they arent. even at higher mmr just pick the easier build and delete everyone's mana. its not as flash or cool but its easier and more effective to contribute with quas wex
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>>556459296
It sounds like it would work fantastic, if you got a Tide on your team. Or some other kind of set up. Even Naga.
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sex with hoodwink
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>>556458458
>I know you like to LARP, but Timber is comically useless without trees
the original post was not larp and i know timber would be much less fun without trees, i just think dota 2 x the lorax would be a fun change for a bit
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>>556412572
not having to stress over money related topics
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Gaben give Marci back her Fleeting Fury facet NOW
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/ourguy/ is back on twitch
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>>556460967
>reddit the person
i liked him as a pro player but he browses reddit on stream and tried to sell his TI ring on ebay. face it hes washed
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>>556460967
did kick stop paying him?
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me when im in a quick game before bed competition
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>>556462730
Techies?

Techies.
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>>556433615
>>556434051
It's not ideal but it just means you craft shit you need from Commons or side-grade them.
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>>556462730
>TA winning a game that goes past 60m, let alone 90m
now im going to need a match id to really believe it
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The event gave everyone The Disciple's Path for free.

You crafted The Disciple's Path, right?
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>>556463030
I love dressing Wei up in cute things!
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>check Atlas
>120/132
>Ah well
>never seen a Meepo
>never seen a... Tinker?
Huh.
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>play my favourite waifu
>go like 20-3-40
>still lose because they can't 1v5, and the enemy team always goes out of their way to buy item counters just for me
>don't play my waifu
>play heroes I don't like playing, in roles I don't like playing
>go like 8-8-20
>win 55% of the time
I wish I was allowed to have fun...
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>>556462945
8679518673
there was like 10 minutes of this game where he gave up and hid in base and the side jungle but then he got over his tantrum and started hitting people again
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>>556463275
REAL
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>>556462945
TA is a legit carry who usually needs lots of farm to come online, so what's so weird about them winning a long game?
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>>556463225
I got Meepo done in 3 wins. All teammates, and they were obviously not smurfs because of how much they bumbled around and fucked things up but it's okay I ran interference for them and helped them carry.

I had to play Tinker myself though because any time I got a Tinker, it was on the enemy team. Smurf or no smurf, my teammates were too retarded to help deal with him even though I did my best to keep him oppressed so it was like 6 games 6 losses, and I didn't see one until I was done the rest of the atlas. Then immediately after, I got like 3 games of Tinker on the enemy team and stomped them. Fucking Tinker, man.

>>556431768
Be the Marcibro you want to see.
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>>556463550
I think that anon is talking about TA's survivability being Refraction charges that any competent team should be able to melt instantly, making TA fall off harder and faster than most Agi right clickers.

>0 ghost scepters against the funny blink and deleter
>no aghs on Ogre, but a Moon Shard
>zero sources of Break against a late game Bristle
Comedy.
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>>556463550
she's a 6 slot @ 30 and end hero
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>safe lane picks WR and doesn't skill a single point in powershoot even at lvl 15
>mid is TA
gg
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>>556464724
i saw auteeezy do it a week ago and im p sure he lost
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>bulldog is on twitch again
>tune in
>racebaiting and anti-lbgt dogwhistles all stream
you guys would love him
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im so fucking tired of lion being in every game
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>>556328948
I understand that you are putting a lot of value on Ogre getting an earlier powerspike, which isn't bad, but I don't think it's the end-all-be-all that you make it out to be. You are sacrificing your lv 1 laning, and then frontloading everything into this early game success gamble. I daresay it's a matter of personal preference. If this was LoL, I wouldn't disagree because games end at laning stage. Win lane, enemy team calls for 15 mins surrender. But this is Dota and the game hasn't even hit the halfway point yet. Winning lane gives you an advantage in winning game later but it's nowhere close to a guarantee, otherwise nobody would ever pick lategame heroes. Every draft would be some mage-centric brool comp instead of fat STR deathballs, or AGI carries in general, since early game is all that matters.

Also, it's +5% 2x chance at lv 6, but the +% modifier gets applied to the highest tier at every level up of the ult, which also in turn reduces the chance of a spell being 1x. So I think having that extra +6%-+10% 4x Multicast chance is pretty huge. You go from 4x'ing someone 1 out of 7 times on average (15%), to 1 out of 5 (15%+5%) to 1 out of 4 (15%+10%). That's basically just one cycle of spell casting, and doesn't count items. Lower chance of a cast being 1x also means casting utility items that aren't midas will have much more value in fights.

I think if you treat Ogre Magi as some sort of early game only caster hero who becomes irrelevant lategame, sure Learning Curve would be better in your eyes. But if you want Ogre to stay useful after 15 mins, then surely Fat Chance is the better longterm choice.
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smurfing to skip past the awful low BS crab bucket was the best choice I ever made for my sanity
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>>556468770
>I see your liver and lights
He's the keeper of the light, so he has light based lines.
"Liver and lights" refer to offal meat.
It's just a stupid line.
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>deleted
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>>556469172
>>556469232
Yeah sorry, I deleted it once I found out.
The thing that I should have checked before posting was the other meanings of light; it can also refer to the lungs (internal organ).
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>>556252093
zquixotix is like the only dota youtuber who puts his own personality into videos instead of rehashing old memes like jenkins
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>>556469416
>>556469172
neato, thanx dotards
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Monster Hunter event ends in like 10 hours, right?
as a new player should I even bother trying to grind out a skin before it ends? it's literally impossible right (pathological procrastinator with queue anxiety)?
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>>556481174
Yeah it's too late now
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>>556481174
best you can do is get the free am persona
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>>556482534
>the free am persona
that's literally all I want
how do I get it
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What is the point of the monster hunter stickers?
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>>556481374
>>556482534
>>556482925
oh what the fuck I just logged in and they gave me a ton of fucking free materials and I could instantly craft Bei????

now all I really need of the rest is the head piece to fix her lame hair
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>>556483007
they are fun
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>>556483550
yeah but what do I do with them? they're not like cs stickers
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the weekend dotard menace is real
holy fuck why are people so bad at weekends
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>Nice game, but I've played for approximately one hour and have deduced that it is not worth spending time on.
How do you respond without sounding mad
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>>556485057
>Nice game, but I've played for approximately one hour and have deduced that it is not worth spending time on.
Nothing about this is wrong.
Dota is a horrible game to play if you value your time
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>>556485057
>How do you respond without sounding mad
by clicking play dota?
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crafted all the rares and i'm done with this shit event and shit game
not finishing curio
see you retards next event
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>>556485431
why does my deer wife sound so mad wtf she's absolutely steaming!
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>>556484009
you display them on your profile
arent you having fun yet
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>>556406730
forced 50 continues
i think im done playing mid (and viper) again
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So, /d2g/... How do we protect our new players from getting bullied out of the game?
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im gonna steal a spell here, but its gonna replace my first one, why? not a rubick player
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>>556491994
i dont fucking understand
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>>556492089
it always replaces the oldest spell stolen
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>>556491584
by bullying them
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>>556492657
and thats the right one....
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>>556455101
Someone translate this
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>>556463550
She scales like shit because her kit is balanced around bursting people early.
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>>556494125
You know that Pink Floyd song, "The Division Bell"?
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>>556494125
tales from the trench part n
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>66% winrate as largo mid in divine bracket
can i make it to immortal with this shit?
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>>556492958
shits bugged like half the fucking interactions in this game
like slark pounce latching onto things behind him
or spectre haunt now spawning on every enemy because ????
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>>556495365
You can try, but forced 50 is coming for you
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>>556495396
>like slark pounce latching onto things behind him
Not a bug, he turns into a projectile and all projectiles have a hitbox, if an enemy behind him is close enough the hitboxes overlap.
>spectre haunt now spawning on every enemy
Reworked, read the patch notes.
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I don't think I'm going to make it
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>>556495618
Bweh? You crafted all of Wei's armor. Whats the problem?
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>>556455101
>24 kill participation on rubick
>25 on void spirit
>24 on jakiro
>23 on tide
>13 on you
so you let your team play 4v5 for the first 30 minutes, got it
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>>556495618
pay up piggie :)
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>>556495615
not spawning*
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>>556495939
is dat how dat works..? Maybe I should take a look at some of my recent scoreboards...
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jakiro is a nigger hero
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used to be at 3k BS
made a new account now at 11500 BS
can say confidently there is zero difference between them in player quality, only difference is matchmaking speed
same amount of griefers/feeders/role abusers
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>>556496081
I mean it's just a quick tell. His 4 teammates grouped up and had to fend on their own while our trench warfare child soldier played PvE until he had all the items he wanted
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>>556496081
>>556496268
It's even more of a tell looking at the heatmap for each hero movement jugg just came in to end the game while his team was proactively roaming and shutting the enemy team down. sure that's a won game but what happens in the eventuality that your 4 teammates can't be as effective in making space for you? It's easy to complain about your other cores being poor when they have to spend the game running around on your behalf
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>>556496185
BS system is completely broken.
Same as the report system.
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>>556496081
consider playing more lane dominating heroes that can join fights
wr, muerta, slark, sf
could also be a bad idea if you're actually winning games with afk farm 6-5 score
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>>556496185
absolutely false
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>>556496724
OK!
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What do I do with these now.
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>>556495423
you were right
clockwerk crying about largo mid the whole match despite showing my 6 streak prediction at the start
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>>556498731
how do you get to 15 without aghs? its what makes the hero work with the 15 talent
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>>556499540
i get aghs after sange and kaya since aghs is too mana hungry, its pointless to get it early if im going to run out of mana in 5 seconds
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>>556455362
Bounty is perfectly fine in lane, just drag waves?
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Marci is perfectly fine in marriage, just wife her?
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>>556495939
Ignore my 20k building damage and second highest damage against heroes.
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>>556496652
Tide was running with the team and also farming camps
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>>556499839
sange doesn't really add anything
you could've bought arcanes or soul ring
aghs is needed to proc the talent if you dont have it by lvl 15 dont bother at all
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>>556497318
absolutely cope
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>>556500867
That's what I'm saying though, coming to close in on the game is the least you couldve done
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>>556498092
Exchange for sticker capsules
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WHY DOES SPECTRE DO SO MUCH FUCKING DAMAGE
WHY DID YOU CHANGE A LATE GAME CARRY INTO ANYTPOINTINTHTEFUCKINGGAMECARRY YOU FUCKING NIGGERS
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>>556502745
LMAO what the fuck is going on here did he just afk for 10 min on brown
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>>556503094
oh nvm thats not networth
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>>556501132
largo gets a lot of focus since he is hard to ignore him, so the tankiness from sange helps soak the damage away from the cores
i dont play largo mid to be the damage dealer i play it as an utility hero
if you got higher winrate or are immortal then il try getting aghs before level 15 to test your build
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dota player are probably the most retarded people on this god forsaken planet.
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>>556505580
nou
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I THROW CHAKRAM ME GOOD PLAYER
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>queue euw
>peruvians and russians
>queue russia
>russians
somethings gotta be done or this game is gonna get the tf2 treatment soon
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>pick tusk
>OHK supports
kino
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>>556505580
Playing with 3rd worlders is like that
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>lumped in with a 4-stack
>theyre completely dysfunctional, pinging each other constantly and and feeding/breaking items
>enemy team is a 5-stack with a smurf and a scripting invoker
i couldnt hand-pick a more obvious forced 50 match if my fucking life depended on it
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i dont think im made to play pos 3
absolutely love that you can bully people and that you can initiate but everytime i go for a fight i die, even if my team wipes their entire party and we go 1 for 5, it makes me frustrated that im dead again and again for it
like man, let me get some kills and live to tell the tale, not stare at a grey screen
maybe i am retarded for playing night stalker but i just love that hero, kinda sucks that nobody in my team is the initiator pretty much ever
i all the squishy heroes in my team and i have to go in and jump the supports then die and we win a fight because the enemies just jumped on me and used all their shit
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>>556508932
>>theyre completely dysfunctional, pinging each other constantly and and feeding/breaking items
why the heck were they queued together, then....
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>>556509038
initiation doesnt have to mean 100% commit
build items that allow you to disengage like bkb
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Losing against a CM With scepter/BKB because our void cannot press R in the general direction.
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>>556509840
I thought BKB was for agression..
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8.5k pos 4 players
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>>556506281
uhm
le outplayed???
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>>556509840
i do that, i usually wait for fight to start or try to spot a support away, or just ult and try to threaten
use bkb whenever i think i should then go away, then hover for vision with ult until i see another blink opportiunity to either silence or finish someone off
my main issue with him is that you need to build kinda offense to be relevant or youre kinda useless outside of maybe killing supports, and only ones that are squishy
my last game my build was boots, harpoon, blink (after sabre), bkb, nulifier and cuirass
i honestly think i will never have a game as night stalker where i do not buy bkb, its great for magic defense and stuns but i found hat even going against some slows fucks the hero so much that i would rather go for bkb and at least do something than get hit by some slow and not catch up even with the passive, not to say the stats are kinda good for him too
also, i honestly do not know if nullifier was good but they had necro, spectre, legion commander, the wierd pupeet guy with a wheel and sniper that due to my low mmr was basically just another core as the game was at 60m, all i did it for was to spite necro because he was like the only core that i could actually 1v1 and i just know how annoyed he fucking was since he also bought euls, plus their support glimmers and the wierd ass box the wheel guy can put someone in
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peru is definitely worse than russia so im taking extreme measures
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