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1940s Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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>>556366049
wow silver is cute..
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Drifta..
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Santa hero trash or cash?
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>>556366049
don't forget to vote
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VOTE CELESTE
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Seven when ult
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>>556366194
if it's santa, cash
if it is some krampus or other edgy retardation, mega trash
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Vote Mina!
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>wahh wahh graves is so OP I don't know how to light melee once

she is by far the worst out of the new batch
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Venator VA please be kino and not valorant/ow va tier like graves and silver
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>See someone playing Silver.
>He just stands in the mid and shoots enemies
I really hope they reverse the nerfs and this doesn't become her new main gameplay.
They took a very fun character and turned it into mid-range m1 bot.
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>>556366305
AAAAAAAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
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>>556366390
they buffed her human abilities though
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>>556366361
those abrams and shiv nerfs really hit them hard, huh?
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>>556366049
i want to mute everyone automatically on load in.
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>>556366361
>basing your opinions on balance on wannabe pro comps
Are you genuinely retarded?
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Deadlock heroes for this feel?
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>>556366256
someone in a match called her the trans character and it made me want to take back all my votes
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>>556366504
They gave her a little more rate of fire, but it's still not enough to not get fucked in the lane. That's it, her 1 started to deal way less damage, and there's no real reason to try to use it to its fullest anymore since the damage is pretty disappointing.
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>>556366579
I formed my own opinions and they were supported by the closest thing we have to pro level play. I would say the retards are the ones getting stomped by the hero with 1 (ONE) good ability that can be jumped over.
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>>556366504
Her 1 got a massive nerf
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>>556366568
I don't care what you want.
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>>556366389
It'll be Kelvin with a different accent
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apollo will be the best character out of the batch
victor was the best and he came last too.
deadcock community has shit taste
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>>556365872
Start with 3 and put a helper on the healing minion every wave, it might seem like it's not doing much but once you play against a rem doing that you'll understand how annoying is it to have to deal with a selfhealing defense boosted trooper that pokes you constantly until you focus fire it down for a few seconds while your lane opponents are clicking your head.
If you keep playing him, his 3 is his strongest ability by far and the one you should focus on learning how to use properly first and foremost, actually if you want to learn game sense you should keep spamming rem even if you lose every game, no better teacher for a game concept than a character that forces you to learn said concept to get results.
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>>556366816
muted.
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So Silver is pretty much just unplayable now, right? I mean it's just a throwpick.
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>>556366553
Shiv will be top pick/ban until they rework his 3. Abrams can just do everything, genuinely the best hero in the game.
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>>556366649
Seven if you are into the cartoon villainy part, Sinclair if you prefer the costume's vibe.
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>>556366925
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>>556366942
she is aggressively middling and has no character identity
Just play Abrams desu
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>>556366579
>wannabe pro comps
You realize valve is balancing around these tourys right? They dropped a patch 20 minutes after this ended that was very obviously a reaction to it.
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>>556367057
>aggressively middling
You've got a generous spirit, anon, calling her that.
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>hook now has a distance cap on how far it can pull you (cast range still the same)
>bomb is now a throwable grenade that sticks to whatever it hits
>bomb no longer gains stacks and just scales like a regular ability
fixed bebop for you
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Graves is the worst laner I have ever seen
She has no abilities and no range, you can shoot her with zero risk.
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>>556366942
You need to put in a LOT of work to make her function and hope you have good teammates to carry your weaknesses.
She's really not good and I have no idea why some people say she is
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>>556367057
Aggressively dogshit more like. Last match I had with a Silver in it she was consistently 8k behind everyone else.
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>>556366942
>throwpick
Nah. She's undertuned and you are much more restricted at your item-game, but you should be able to be a net positive in any game, imo.
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>>556367175
Dont touch the hook
Grenade changes good, give it charges too
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>>556366942
She's just boring and worse than the alternatives. You can play her and even try to have fun but it will be completely ineffective and you will be easily punished for techniques that worked before. The only thing she had was reliable burst damage to a single target and reliable transformation into a wolf, which are both gone. As another anon said, Abrams is now literally superior in every way.
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>see silver running in, desperately shooting at anything in sight to transform
leave the werewolf to me.
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Why DOES Bebop bomb have stacks in the first place?
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>>556367129
I've never seen cope this desperate before
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I saw a few Silver pro matches and everytime it went something like this
>gets a strong tanky lane companion
>absolutely rapes midgame and can kill any character in 1v1
>starts sucking in late game because everyone just CCs her to death
>lose
And these same mongoloids will make thumbnails saying she's crazy OP while also not picking her in tournaments lmao. And Valve genuinely listens to these subhumans.
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>>556367310
i prefer vacation bible school
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All this proves is that Valve can't design characters for shit. Within a week Graves and Silver are both fucking gutted and barely achieve their character's 'fantasy' anymore. Graves is a fucking Wall + Ult bot and Silver can't do shit
Oh, and REM is also an ult bot that does nothing else other than farm the map efficiently
Pretty fucking embarrassing that Riot does a better job than them
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>>556367129
And Valve is retarded for doing so
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Me? Refresher Doorman in street brawl so people don't get to try silver.
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>>556367320
>THIS IS ABOUT TO GET REAL MES - AAAACACACCCKKKKK
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>>556366752
Don't let transexuals do that to you
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>Range from 18m to 16m
Justify this
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>>556367401
Only listening to so-called pros is exactly what killed Overwatch. You'd think Valve would have some pattern recognition.
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>balance patch
Where do I see this? The latest news feed for me is Silver's release.
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>>556367401
>can kill any character in 1v1
I could believe that before the nerf, but definitely not now.
>>556367424
Graves is still strong, and her gravestone is aggressively oppressive.
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>>556366942
probably still fine
her ult was kinda giga busted before
the scaling ult charge thing is the worst part since itll eventually outstrip your combo burst and youll need to buy more garbage to enable her base form to catch up which is retarded
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>>556367512
these are the same retards who made DoTA they don't understand shit lmfao
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>>556367521
Official discord:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/post-198653
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You can tell hopoo designed silver because she's just calico again but gun focused
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I WANT TO HAVE GAY SEX WITH MORE THAN HALF THE MEN IN THIS GAME
Now that I have your attention, what's the best item to deal with Bebop, counterspell?
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>>556367626
and just like Calico she will only be good when her numbers are overtuned and 100% useless any other time
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>>556367521
I can fix her, also it's in the comments on the last patch
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>>556367521
Below the same message. It's bad, and I'm honestly putting the game on hold until they do something about this crap.
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>>556367854
I will just aggressively counter and hard focus Silver at every opportunity so her numbers just plummet into nothing.
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>>556367854
see you when venator drops later
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>>556367706
Counterspell, Dispel Magic if you can just move away, Spellbreaker, Eshift, Reactive Barrier if you get hooked from second 1
Also shoot him he's big as fuck
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>>556367854
>oh no my brand new character is receiving adjustments
victor went through even worse treatment
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>Play Silver in Brawl
>Land my full combo
>Ult bar is barely 1/2 full
wtf is this shit
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>>556367505
Graves is getting over her anxiety :D
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>>556368103
>comparing Silver to Victor
Holy shit
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>>556368103
Did Victor have a 40% winrate on his debut day
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>>556368215
No that was Mina
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>>556368038
If it's Venator, I won't even bother checking it out because he's fucking boring. I hope it's Apollo, he's the most interesting of the remaining characters.
>>556368103
Yeah, changes that make a character I really like into a character I don't give a shit about.
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>>556367854
>putting the game on hold until
you weren't playing it anyways, poojet
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>>556367512
>Only listening to so-called pros is exactly what killed Overwatch
How exactly? Aren't they the same devs that let GOATS rock for a year despite good players hating the best and only team comp being just auto-aiming tanks and supports? People on here always say this but I remember people being disappointed that Blizzard was catering to casual players until the game was quickly seen as a joke competitively.
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>>556368118
They will lower the requirement soon I think, but they won't lower it back to as low as it was previously
I think their vision was for people to get low fighting as a human, then transform into wolf and get a second wind.
If true, what they should do is make it so she also builds bloodlust from damage taken as well, at maybe half the rate of from damage dealt
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>>556368424
>I think their vision was for people to get low fighting as a human, then transform into wolf and get a second wind.
What an utterly retarded idea, so that's probably what they're thinking.
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>seven: "You're worse than a petulant teenager. At least they have the excuse that their brains aren't fully developed."
>silver: "Hell of a pep talk dad."
>seven: "You don't know your dad."
actually pretty funny
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>>556368567
>What an utterly retarded idea
What makes you say that? Seems kino to me in and of itself
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I CAN'T LAND!!! THE FUCKING CARBINE!!!!
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>>556367310
>no stretch marks

Trash
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>>556366703
>left and right axis isn't left and right
>authoritarian billy
>drifter and rem existing on a political axis at all
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>>556368360
Pros say a thing and the mindless goyim that watch their streams just seal clap and repeat said dogshit take but louder ad infinitum and the developers take notice. Thus, a game is killed. Also Blizzard did everything in their power to try and kill GOATS without rolequeue. See the insane Reaper buffs for reference.
Also really funny how GOATS was only viable AFTER they removed Scatter Arrow from Hanzo. Truly they bring misfortune on themselves.
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>>556368525
>burly sweaty men are based
>hot sexy women are cringe
homo

you're gayer than the gay hockey show on hbo
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>>556368317
Cry about it
>>556368424
>then transform into wolf and get a second wind
You don't even gain that much HP upon transformation now.
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Beginner here, which heroes should I add to my list?
I only play halal characters.
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>>556368792
>You don't even gain that much HP upon transformation now.
The 30% missing HP heal on transform wasn't changed though, and the leech from bite wasn't changed that much either
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Silver is underage in dog years you sick freaks
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>>556367512
Not comparable, overwatch is a fake scene with fake pros. If they stopped funding tournaments it would die overnight because there is no 3rd party demand, its marketing. Valve autists are in it for the love of the game
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>>556368360
>>556368424
>I think their vision was for people to get low fighting as a human
then why did they ALSO nerf the transformation HP restore?
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>>556368868
more like she's 200 years old+ in dog years
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>>556367854
Point Blank now works in wolf form so it should balance the nerfs out a fair bit
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>>556368874
I wish that were still true. Unfortunately 8 out of every 10 players you run into are Overwatch refugees. Especially in brawl.
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they need to speed up the game by like 25% desu
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>>556367854
Is there a reason last hits/denies are still in the game?

>walkers no longer generate soul orbs
>walkers soul bounty buffed some patches ago
>guardians no longer generate soul orbs
>heroes no longer generate soul orbs
>urn no longer deposited at mid, no real chance to "deny" soul orbs
>lane creeps soul orbs have built in bias against denies
>literal time window where the soul can be secured
>you should practically never miss a soul to a deny unless you're getting shitfucked in lane anyways

Kind of sad we have no weapon variety; every gun needs to be a machine gun to play a last hitting minigame. They should just do away with denies on lane creeps if it's going to make the weapons boring but also not actually be last hitting anyways
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>>556366361
Abrams+Shiv the Unnerfable.
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>>556368360
Yeah the issue with OW was having a bunch of WoW MMO retards in charge of balancing a fps. 90% of the players wanted to play fast mobile characters while the devs kept forcing tanks and healsluts into the meta. Then they added a role queue and finding a game as a dps took 8 minutes while you were bribed into playing tanks and healers with lootboxes.
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>>556368781
Name a single one of those burly sexy men that are cringe
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>>556366993
Seven's too nuanced, and Drifter too real. You're right about sinclair though.
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>>556368360
pretty sure OW pros told the devs 5v5 was giga retarded and they still went with it anyways
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>>556368858
It's nice, but it's too uncontrollable. Going into a fight with less than half HP against anyone with burst damage is just suicide, not to mention someone like Shiv who ignores your resistances with his 4
>>556369051
It didn't change anything at all. Everyone who was close enough for this to work died without any problems anyway, it's just a bug fix. Human form was already quite weak, but now the only ability that was even remotely good has been cut down to nothing, and becoming a wolf has been made more difficult.
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>>556368424
I like that now you spend more time in the human form, they just need to make the damage output in human form less shit
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How do you counter bebop
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>>556369316
abrams venator lash infernus seven
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Celeste actually has a chance because trannies are all unemployed and have no lives so they can just play 24-7
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>>556366703
>nazi and liberal
>opposites
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how do you play this stupid fucking bitch? genuinly asking causing i tried a few games with her and they were the most rage inducing useless matches i have ever had.

>skulls AI is absolute fucking dogshit. no matter what 1-2 heads just wont lock in even if you are standing on the enemy.
>even if they lock in after you having to get close to them with the new nerf 90% of them just get destroyed before they get a single attack in while uselessly floating around
>weapon feels awful and requires you to be at melee range to get to them
>horrible mobility. horrible health.
>weapon build is a meme
in short she is somehow the most squishy hero in the game while also requiring you to get point blank to the enemy to do any damage. while all your damage can literally be stopped with a light melee.
all the negative with zero plus. feels like the only viable playstyle is just rat sidepushing with ult.
unironically got me MAD playing her. horrible gameplay experience.
people complain about her being op so im clearly missing something.
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>>556368781
Stop noticing
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>>556368792
How on earth do you have that many consecutive Silver matches?
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>>556368978
I am retarded
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>>556369536
All unfathomably based. Meanwhile the best female characters are all quirk chunguspilled.
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>>556369568
>feels like the only viable playstyle is just rat sidepushing with ult.
wow looks like you know how to play the char but you try to force her to be a haze-like
it's a character made for retards you just put ult and split and rape anyone who comes into your tombstone
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>>556369554
This has to be bait, one of the core values of liberalism is being as dissimilar to the nazis as possible
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>15 game loss streak
Jesus fucking christ make it stop
I'm all the way down to Seeker from Arcanist now
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How do you play abrams like columbo?
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>>556369674
It seems that no one plays her in Brawl.
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>>556369817
Anon...
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>>556368424
the original leaks said she would transform automatically if she hit 0 HP and her ult was up.
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>>556369674
Very few actually playing her. She's my top prio and I get her in at least 2/3rds of matches.

That many in a row is impressive though.
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>>556369739
This guy nailed it
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>>556369568
Wait for the rework, she has 2 abilities and no gun.
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>>556368360
Retards have been saying this for years.
>LE Catering to pros killed OW
When it's literally the fact is they never catered to them during ow1s lifespan ever.
>GOATS good for what felt like years
>Role lock because so you can't do your own comps as some cope because if they nerf healing the casuals will go apeshit
>D.va op for years
>Rein even though I love him no real answer besides a mirror match unless you are giga high mmr
etc etc The ONLY thing pros ever got was widow nerfed because she was oppressive as shit.
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>>556369734
reading 4chan kills brain cells
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>>556369887
>small government
>economically right
>culturally progressive
vs
>large government
>economically centrist
>culturally conservative
But I think both are bad and all bad things are the same because that's the easy way to view the world.
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the 16m to 18m nerf to graves is actually painful, it's the difference between you standing on high ground and hitting them on bridge and laning phase and not
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>>556368525
move the remnants of neon prime lower left like yamato and GT, making billy an anarchist that believes in nothing is SOVL and should be top middle. If we are going off only the character model I still think its pretty original for a hero shooter.
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>>556369817
>>556370129
the core of liberalism and fascism is capitalism. liberals are just better at hiding the brutality of it.
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I know I'm probably late with this since I just started playing today, but man this is hella cute.
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>>556370129
>nazi
>culturally progressive
yup that's a /pol/ poster
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>>556370297
Fuck off fag
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>>556366167
i just had my best match on him ever a while ago
50 hours in drifter and billy are my fav chars to play, maybe lash too but i find it hard to do as well w him
drifter is awesome as a char tho
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I'm going to bed, and here are my predictions:
Venator is released, and he's a brain-dead OP gun character.
Silver gets another nerf for some reason.
/dlg/ tries to convince everyone that this is how it should be.
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>>556370242
>all capitalist systems are the same
I fucking hate leftists so much holy shit you're so incapable of nuanced thinking I want to cave in your skull with a brick so fucking bad drop dead you worthless maggot
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>>556366703
>Jacket as a leftwing communist
kek
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KILL ALL /pol/NIGGERS
KILL ALL /pol/NIGGERS
KILL ALL /pol/NIGGERS
KILL ALL /pol/NIGGERS
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>>556370398
+
>Bebop gets another randomly assigned % buff for landing ability X
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>>556369534
Please respond
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>>556370315
You read it backwards
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>>556370242
>nazi bad therefore capitalism

World's smartest commie
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>>556369534
Cry for nerfs because he's been weak as shit and keeps getting FUCKIGN NERFS
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>>556369534
>>556370530
>Counterspell
>Dispell Magic
>Curse
>Knockdown

Pick your counter
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>>556369534
thats the neat part, you dont >>556366361
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>>556366568
Being toxic or griefing toxic teammates is half the fun
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whats the BKB of this game?
as in an item thats easy to use and becomes absolutely necessary to play against certain comps
counterspell is hard to use you have to time it in a short window
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>>556370790
Curse
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>>556370790
healbane
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>>556366568
I have no idea why a convenient "Mute All" button isn't standard practice
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>>556369568
the reason people say she's op is because ult can stall/set up a favourable siege for your team.
once you press 4 near a walker your job is done. but everything else is ASS
>feels like the only viable playstyle is just rat sidepushing with ult.
i'd argue she can't even do that, to rat you need to be able to 1v1(or even 1v2) OR have some fuck off ability like wraith tp or ivy ult. She also can't kill walkers quickly enough
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>>556370778
Some of us are grown enough to not find that fun
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When are they gonna rework shielding and bullet resistance
I NEVER see them bought
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They should reduce lash's spirit scaling really hard and make him a gun hero
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Im getting closer I think

I know people prefer hunters aura over Hollow but I just hate that item, I think its mad overrated and bad for the same reasons drifter is bad(isolation never happens)

I also think Vamp burst is probably better than Collosus but its good enough + way cooler
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>>556370790
Slowing Hex, Knockdown
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>>556370937
that would make him way less fun
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I really hope they finally release this shit and it gets insanely popular because the learning curve is insane and I don't want to spend 1k hours learning a game just for it to die.
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>>556368792
>street brool
yup, certified shitter
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>incoming voice chat volume: 0
>incoming chat messages: disabled
imagine listening to these breathy idiots and their theorycrafting
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>>556370778
I have more fun uplifting my team
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>>556366568
you can set player voice volume to zero
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>>556369878
>Just one more thing
>4>heavy q>2>heavy q>m1>m1>heavy q
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>>556370421
>>556370613
who are you quoting?
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>>556371008
nah bruh...nah ur based and redpilled..a salute to my fellow 4channer
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>>556366361
>Shivfags getting ready for their 593th nerf in a row (their character is still top pick/ban in comp)
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*floats towards the spirit power buff and steals it before you can heavy melee*
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>>556370996
The best part of a moba is learning it, once you start having it figured out is when the fun starts nosediving. My favorite dota 2 moments were shit like buying bloodstone for the very first time and feeling like a god
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>>556371070
yes I am, thank you for acknowledging this fact
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>Throw bola
>It gets caught on a minion
ebin
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>>556370297
they really put the most soul in him. I love his room
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>>556366049
Gimme your jacket!
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Let’s see what this dick can do
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>>556371129
Shiv and Bebop are seemingly in the same boat where they both have an overpowered skill that valve refuses to nerf and they instead nerf everything else and suck all the fun out of the hero.
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>>556371129
He can have 3 abilities that do nothing and he'll still be a top pick if he has a resetting % execute.
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>>556370996
i had that same doubt but at this point its clear valve isn't gonna pull an artifact on this game and its got enough of a playerbase to stay alive, so i already comitted to learning it
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Dynamo's pretty cool
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>>556369181
It's in, or rather just not axed yet, because it's the last tether to laning being a thing. If you remove the ability to deny(nevermind that it's basically not a thing currently) then the "laning phase" really is just confirmed to be m1 pushing a wave down until the guardian is taken. If you don't even have the pretense of denying being possible people will have no reason even if hypothetical to not just nuke it down. There's probably somebody who's pushed back against removing it for the moment, but they'll eventually cave. I don't know if it's for better or worse that it'll eventually go.
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>Shiv and Bebop are clearly balance cancer that everyone hates
>Valve refuses to just take the L and rework them
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>>556370943
if this is for silver you'd be a retard to not run stamina mastery
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>>556371360
I saw porn of him yesterday, it was really hot.
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>>556371326
for the love of god abrams!
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>>556369878
My wife, you know, she's always telling me to feint the heavy melee. But me, I'm so forgetful that I hold the button before I get the second upgrade on my Charge.
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>>556371406
I love bebop and I rarely had a problem with an enemy bebop getting out of control on the enemy team. I'm upset they killed my boy
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>>556370046
>Retards have been saying this for years.
Seeing that shit repeated on here so much has just further confirmed to me that casuals use compfags as a complete boogeyman. Entire dev team catering to casuals, afraid of upsetting them, and they still cry that it's the pros fault the game is dying.
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What characters are worth learning as a beginner in this game?
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>>556371496
Tales from seeker
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>In a game where everyone moves like a cracked out coke addict at 500mph m/s and dashes SIlver is expected to hit all her shots just to be allowed to ult
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>>556371431
...He has no penis
The fact he's managed to keep a happy and loving marriage despite that is impressive but he still has no dick.
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>>556371523
The one you personally like
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>>556371523
Why don't you just play characters you find cool and fun ingame?
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>>556371538
Ascendant (much higher than your rank)
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attached rem should be able to parry
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>>556371564
He had a cock in the picture I saw..
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>>556371564
>The fact he's managed to keep a happy and loving marriage despite that is impressive
he's a giant vibrator
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>>556371428
I knew i was forgetting something
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>>556371523
Pick Sinclair and don't read anything about how to play or other characters
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>>556371550
Aimlet-kun...
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>>556371523
Warden and Abrams
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>>556371653
Nuh uh, not that much higher, I'm phantom!!!!!
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>>556371523
Kek, IRL Tsukuyomi
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Where the fuck are people making these graphs
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>>556367626
>>556367776
>>556369568
the new heroes besides Rem seem like League of Legends heroes, that's why their kits are boring I think

Graves
>essence shift doesn't steal anything actually useful like maxHP or Mana/Int (doesn't exist in Deadlock)
>jar of dead heals, slows, triggers essence shift
>Defense option of line trap is neat I guess
>Tombstone ult heals, slows, summons, etc

Silver
>auto-reload that makes her fire faster
>auto-reload extra damage
>auto-reload T4 upgrade does health percent damage
>jumpkick restores stamina
>jump puts -35% damage on target
>jump triggers melee passives
>jump marks a target to take extra spirit damage
>bola slows
>Ult is neat I guess

They're league heroes because their abilities do a little bit of everything, but nothing unique. Dota heroes have relatively simple, but extremely weird mechanics.
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>>556371861
On graphs.com
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>>556371772
This is wrong but I suspect that was part of your plan
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>>556371875
there's no 3 hit passive and only one of the 3 has a dash however?
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How does Calico keep flying under the radar? She’s been one of the most powerful characters since she released but I never see anyone crying to nerf her
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>>556371861
Tiermaker has a alignment chart option
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>>556372084
Nobody plays her because she's ugly
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>>556372037
elaborate
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>dotafags try not to mention dota and its "amazing characters and abilities" challenge
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>>556372062
This general is full of "league bad" dota retards who are so mindfucked by video game tribalism that they attribute any game design decisions they don't like to league or riot.
And no I'm not defending that shit game or the awful company behind it (you have to say this otherwise they accuse you of playing that shit game).
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>>556372381
Put Nyx Assassin in Deadlock
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>>556371875
>no dash through walls
>no 100% hp shield on a dps
>no true damage
>no 20 second stuns on a basic ability
>no 3 dash charge ability
>no "true" invisibility
not quite there yet
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>>556371875
I can sort of see it with silver, though faint enough that she has the benefit of the doubt, but graves isn't leaguecoded at all. I would know, I have 4000 hours in that shitty game and I'd likely still be addicted to it if riot didn't try to force their malware anticheat
Calico remains the most leaguecoded hero in the game
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>>556371431
How. The man is nothing but a steel sphere and some extremities suspended by gravitational forces with a black hole for a head.
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>>556372257
Dynamo should be far left as he was on the flight plan and probably further down seeing as he refused Bane's offer(he still said nothing)
The flight plan OSIC section should list only OSIC operatives and Dynamo + 1
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how does this item have a high winrate after it got gutted?
the winrate is even higher if you filter for only eternus matches.
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Yesterdays anon here coming in hot with a new low hour player build for silver. Focused on getting fire rate to stinky levels and let go of healing since the lycan form should do that for me. Now that PB is not bugged out in lycan form (thanks volvo) I'm keeping it. Not sure about hunters aura and blood tribute but will keep them in for now.
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>>556372483
>20 second stuns on a basic ability
sounds like bullshit
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>>556371875
wtf are you on about dota chars are simple as fuck i bet there's one that has an ability which is just Stun the enemy target for 1.25 seconds point and click
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What if Venator is not fun?
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SIlver just isn't fun anymore.
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>>556372381
Put Ogre Magi in Deadlock
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>>556372471
>borrowing champion with stun and displacement
I kneel. the uniqueness of doturd champions knows no bounds.
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>>556366049
So how lesbianic is she?
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>>556367310
don't worry, I'll vote for her after Venator gets in
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>>556372687
b/c the only people buying it are very fed gun carries like a mirage or infernus who already have ricochet
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>>556372825
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
LETS GO GAMBLING
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>>556372830
I didn't call it unique
He's fun as fuck, put him in Deadlock.
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>>556372673
Well, someone drew the picture so it exists..
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Can't wait to play some Apollo later tonight.
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>>556372762
Don’t care, still playing the DILF
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>>556372854
Ambiguously bi, all depends on your personal autistic shipping agenda
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>>556372687
i honestly think its some bias of hard carries who are already doing good buying it as an extra.
because every game i actually look at the graph of what it did, it does like 1k worth of damage by the end of the match at most.
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>>556372693
A big problem with Silver is that her base numbers are so shit that 3-4 items are pretty much mandatory
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>>556372762
He's a gun shoot man with Vayne's kit, it's a given he won't be fun.
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you're building damage on silver
i'm building 100% green
we are not the same
(i'm not winning either)
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If (You) play Venator I WILL be doing this to you, this is your only warning. Don't have me in your games.
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>>556372895
Anyone got the canon pic of Haze giving a nursing handjob to Rem?
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>>556372941
he's not a dad. heck, he's a virgin.
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>>556372687
People only buy it in a situation where it would be good, so it leads to inflated winrate because in the situation it bought it is, in fact, a good item
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>>556373034
>Vayne
Who?
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>>556372471
>nuke that scales off of the enemy's spirit value
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>>556373060
Not for long
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>>556366256
i have 200 votes.
>>556366752
i just block everyone that says or posts the trans gif in the official discord. so far have blocked 70 troons.
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>556371875
that is anything but a league hero
kill yourself
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>>556373034
vayne is one of the most fun adcs because she relies entirely on your mechanical skill no bullshit like aphelios
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>>556372913
I want to believe
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>>556373135
vampire hunter lady with big crossbow that does true damage as a passive every 4? autos
fires a bolt that knocks enemy back, if it pins them against a wall they get stunned
has a dodge ability on a relatively low cd that primes her next shot to do true damage(i think?)
ult just whips out big ass crossbow, gives her movespeed, more damage. just a steroid.
at least iirc this is her kit from league of legends when I played in s3
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ITS TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD...
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>>556373297
*mel blanc scream*
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>>556370206
>billy an anarchist that believes in nothing
that is why he is on the middle, he wants to be on some extreme so badly that he just ends up stuck in the middle.
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>>556373297
checking in?
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>>556372989
After playing some matches with her, i feel like if they just balanced her default gun to be less bursty and only keep that for slam fire she might be good, because farming camps became a slug fest instead of a shoot out for me, also shooting delay fucks with my aim.
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>>556373297
So Warden is op but everyone just silently accepts it for no reason, right?
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>>556372381
hots has way more interesting characters despite being the ultimate baby moba
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>>556373234
>>556373287
You know, a character with a lot of Vayne's abilities would be very fun in this game, a pure mechanical skill carry that jumps around.
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>>556373297
-ACK!
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>>556373234
When I played lol I exchanged my right to ban for removing vayne permanently from my game and never looked back
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>>556373297
I hope when he gets his redesign they make his ult a little more flashy, not talking particle effects out the ass just some more oomf to it
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>>556373482
that's holliday
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I'm going to play Venator with tormentor pulse and green items and I don't care.
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>>556373041
*high prios Venator*
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it's 7:50.
do you know where Rem is?
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Melee Wraith is insane
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>>556373645
A-anon..?!
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>>556373689
When people do this I never know if they're trying to talk about the time of day or in game time
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>>556371360
I can hear TF2s sniper leak out sometimes when he’s screaming, I wonder if they’ll get his wife to play Dynamos wife if they follow through on the VN aspect
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>>556373720
GOOD MOOOORNING
SHOW ME THE PLACE WHERE SHIV INSERTED THE BLADE
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>>556373720
as if it never happened at aaallll
GOOD MORNIIIIINGGG
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I am not fond of Street Brawl, if you don't get the items your hero actually needs you're just fucked. That applies to the enemy team too, sure, but it just feels shit when it happens to you.
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The greatest hero in the game... is you, the player
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>Drifter
>Character that needs to kill people to stay relevant
>Lowest time to kill out of all gun heroes
loving every laugh
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>>556371129
>ability that holds off damage
>ability that lets you finish off enemies in a single press
Unless they straight up remove those aspects his ass is never leaving top tier
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>>556373620
I don't think you know how Vayne plays, she has short range and has a short cooldown roll
Consecutive hits trigger more damage every 3 hits, a knockback that stuns if the target hits a wall
I think a character similar to that would work and be pretty fun in Deadlock, an agile crossbow character like Vayne or Diablo 3's demon hunter
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What if Rem helpers applied a small regen to allies and not just troopers? I just want them to proc healing tempo.
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>>556371550
You..actually think the movement is quick?
Its so much slower than before. It feels sluggish
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>>556373913
your refresher + duration??
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>>556373216
That's a lot of votes, hopefully she wins tonight.
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>>556368525
>Warden below nigfernus, snakeslut, and Professor reddit
Fuck you
>Lash is more coomer than 90% of the cast
What the fuck is wrong with you
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>>556372693
Too expensive, too much spirit and im not sure crushing fists does anything
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>>556374014
It's literally faster than Zoom of Duty and Sweatpex so yes
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>>556373720
I don't get it.
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>>556374004
helpers need to be nerfed not buffed
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>>556374019
Now you can be useless twice as long
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They’re great at shuffleboard!
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>gets ganked by three enemies
>"I WON'T DIE HERE"
>dies immediately
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>>556367512
What "killed Overwatch" is having a piss puddle of depth in both character and map design and no opportunity for any emergent or unusual gameplay, shit balance wasn't even close to its main problem
The game did not have enough nuance to maintain an organic playerbase without constant content drip (either gameplay or cosmetic), which is why it basically vanished from the public eye around 2018-2019. The embarrassingly astroturfed "pro scene" hardly even existed, it pulled massive twitch numbers and yet you have never met even a single person IRL who knows anything about the Overwatch League.
Balance isn't even in the top 5 reasons.
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>>556374143
It just feels so sluggish than what im used to
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Are there any good resources on what to do in the mid-game? Sometimes, I have games where one person gets massively ahead on farm and I'm just not sure how to do that myself. Obviously I understand to do jungle creeps and sinners, I just don't understand the timing and whatnot.
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What are some niche items that are really good on Graves? I'm spending some time theorycrafting and I need ideas
I currently do the braindead strategy of building all around the ult because its really effective in low elo, you see people killing themselves just to take the tomb down all the time, it makes me smile everytime
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>billy
>geist
>mirage
>yamato
which of the new characters would fit on my rotation?
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>>556374334
Bebop
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>>556374172
he's kinda useless outside of it though
paige dynamo have far more insane interrupt/mass stun ults
pillow is just ass
item spam is good, but it only really activates after 25 minutes have passed
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>>556374384
who is bebop
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>>556367492
you're right
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>>556374469
not sure
the name came to me in a dream
or perhaps it was a nightmare
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>>556373890
It was fun for about 30 minutes. I think it might work as somebody's fix if they don't want to commit to a full game but it seems useless to me for what people said it was intended for(learning heroes, or the game) and now that there's separate balancing amongst other things I think it's clear that's not the case. I think it'll end up like Turbo where it gets its own playerbase of people who just abuse the best heroes for it and most people just ignore it
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>streamer I like started playing
>he hates 99% of the dialogue and wishes there was a settings option to mute every character
Is the dialogue really cringe marvel shit from the outsiders perspective?
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6 hours till divine justice
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>>556374256
I WANT YOUR SOUL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewtewrjIPxU
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Has any new character failed as hard as Silver?
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>laning with graves
:)
>laning with graves against sinclair
:(
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>>556374607
Venachud is about to
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>>556374325
Carpet. You lack mobility and it buffs duration, your most important stat. Only issue is your damage has lingering sources that can knock you out of it. Rem has a similar issue with his helpers on troopers knocking him out of carpet.
Suppressor + your 3 is good at neutering all but hyper gun carries.
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>>556373034
>He's a gun shoot man with Vayne's kit
thats fun tho
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>>556366769
> Sieges you with her ult, dozens of skulls, minions pushing into you. Can't clear it all
> I'll break her ult. She defends it, parrying if I try to melee
> Otherwise she holds m1 doing constant damage.
> Okay I'll just kill her
> Ult zombies can hit you for 500dmg, skulls smashing into you, she's just holding m1 while I have to aim.
If she's competent, Graves is a fucking menace, especially if your team mates don't help at all in dealing with all her bullshit.
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>>556374549
>Let's see what this book can do!
>Focus A, the guardian is just up ahead
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>>556374406
>pillow is just ass
>item spam is good

>he fell for it
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>>556374549
>streamer
He’s retarded by default chief
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>>556374469
mammy shelly's creation
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>>556374290
What killed Overwatch was not updating the game for months promising PvE content and then not delivering on that promise and completely fucking up their monetization model immediately after
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>>556374657
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>>556374132
You say too much spirit but boundless gives a 20% increase in fire rate for lycan form. Now for the crushing fists i dunno because i am not able to play enough games to test them out, but they sound good on paper. I guess they might be useless if your able to kill the hero before the stun procs. Any suggestions for a replacement?
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>>556374469
a better question

why is bebop?
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What should they replace Bebops bomb with? Some kind of jump to enable his ultimate without items? Clearly Icefrog will remove it at some point.
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>>556374938
The PvE shit didn't happen until the game was already dead
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>>556368525
>the most sexualized character in the game that far to the left
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>>556374734
Kill the skulls, it takes 1 second
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Is Majestic Leap on Vindicta anything
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>>556374549
People are aggro to any ingame dialogue as of late since dunking on bad game writing is so prevalent (gets them likes online), which in turn means people that don’t understand writing will take a shot at anything that slightly bothers them to seem more intelligent, since streamers are weirdly worshipped their word is god to some which makes them parrot their opinions.
Deadlocks writing isn’t nearly that level of AAA dogshit writing
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>>556374734
Just throw AoEs at the tombstones man, and the skulls take like 1-2 button presses.
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>>556374530
As a newfag it's great for at least getting some basic mechanics down. The game requires something like 30 keys and even getting comfortable with that took me more than a few matches. Also good for understanding what some characters do and how they perform in an actual fight and start learning some items.
Biggest issue is that I have a pool of 10 charas I want to play but always end up getting the same 2. If I put Vik and Billy in my pool I'm guaranteed to see them, defeating the purpose of the mode.
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why is the community so full of chuds? its the only game where i read multiple n bombs per day
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>>556375103
Button that calls the target a nigger really loudly
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Is it just me or do you not hear zip line conversations anymore?
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Tase people with the laser arm (Spirit res shred)
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am convinced some people play this game solely to lose it for others, I ALWAYS get a cunt who decides to feed the enemy carry
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>>556375417
They’re bugged
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>>556375417
pruned unfortunately
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I teabag every kill I remember to every game. I especially like it when it's a teamfight and I angle my movement over their body and execute a quick teabag or even just halt myself to do it if I'm safe enough. And when I see somebody teabag me in return, it's like ecstasy. They get it, the thrill, the power, the tension of fighting them again knowing a teabag is on the line. When I get killed and they don't teabag I get disappointed. I just want to make up for all these years of playing games where teabagging isn't a thing.
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>>556375373
Valve have been really hesitant to nerf the cooldown on white people's ultimate for some reason
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Why don't people say a word in Street Brawl?
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>>556375263
No, the skybox ceiling is too low for that.
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>>556375263
not when divine barrier exists
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>>556374734
>if im about to kill someone they will ult and deal damage to me noooooooooooooooooooooooo this is a heckin menace yoshiiiiiii save mee AAAIIIIIIIIIEHHHHHH
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>>556375373
mobas make you racist.
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>>556375430
Meant for >>556375103
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>>556375179
>>556375280
> Kill the skulls
Of course, but that's 2 seconds that she's SUCCING you gaining a nice little hp advantage and stealing your DPS.
>AOE
And if I lm playing someone that doesn't have an AOE ability? It was hell as Abrams trying to deal with her.
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>>556368525
Fixed 4 u.
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>>556375545
>>556375548
So the ones people have been posting on YouTube are just entirely datamined?
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>>556375373
too many male homosexual characters attracts chuds
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>>556375417
I've heard a couple, Silver asking Rem if he's scared and Dynamo and Wraith bantering
I remember the latter in particular because Wraith swapped with Rem but Wraith's voice lines kept playing from Rem's position
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>>556375527
Hard to get a word out edge wise when you’re constantly fighting
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>>556375431
>anons complaining silver is unplayable in lane
>somehow she is always on the killstreak portrait by minute 5 on the enemy team on the other side of the map
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>turn my mods back on
>going through and cleaning out skin mods that dont work with the update
>for some reason infernus is t-posing despite no mods being for him

What the fug
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>>556368792
how did you get 2026 assists
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Ok silver v5? I think

9.6k in gun and vit, 4.8k spirit. After this go frenzy/vamp burst for more dps
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>>556375480
>>556375478
Hope they fix it/bring them back. Wasn't sure if they were actually gone, or if the way the game throws you instantly into zip and has me scrambling to queue items and see if lane swaps are good had me ignoring them. Man they need to have like a 5s wait before dumping you on the zipline, at minimum it would stop the start of match pauses for lane swaps.
>>556375584
Some characters just have bad matchups dude. Whereas Grave gets fucked by area denial herself.
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>>556375497
>And when I see somebody teabag me in return, it's like ecstasy
Getting a little gay but I respect it.
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>>556375765
>Hollowpoint on a character that will routinely be below 65% HP
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>>556375736
>download cheats
>surprised when the game breaks
Typical
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so far i have geist, seven, and dynamo as characters i can just abilitymaxx and ignore their weapons
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>>556368726
Comrade Billy would be rounding up counter-revolutionaries with with Comrade Warden under the proper optics without hesitation.
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>>556375765
She needs express shot now more than ever
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>>556375923
>seven
>Ignore weapons
no one tell this guy what his 3 does
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Help me kill the detective
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>>556375876
Oh yeah. I sure am getting a huge advantage with mods like this.
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>>556376034
it's just for farming lole
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>>556375736
skin mods are borked
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>>556375373
welcome to reality
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>>556376040
ABRAMS IS NOT GOING DOWN
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>>556376061
Sprooh..
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lately ive been seeing tons of apollo and celeste posters spammed on the maps but never anything from venator

i think were about to lose again, bros..
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>>556367854
>fixed her weapon not working with CQ & PB when in LC
I fucking knew they weren't having impact. Fuck.
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>>556375923
you should at minimum buy headshot booster on dynamo
even as an aimlet myself i buy it because stomp leaves anyone hit floating like a retard in the exact same place every time
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>>556374549
there's a couple of cringe lines but 99% of it is fine
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>>556373913
lowest time to kill means fastest btw
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>>556376086
Not all of them. And again, I don't even have one for infernus and he's t posing.
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>>556376040
WHY WON'T HE DIE?
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>>556374952
Id just cut them wholesale because the build is too expensive

Really when build crafting you want focus on your 4.8k for each category, then 9.6k for the 2 categories that your hero utilizes best(some can do full hybrid with all categories at 9.6k). After that point you should just have a ton of situational for whoever you are going up against
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>>556374325
Echo shard on 1 is pretty ballin. lets you nuke 1 guy or set it as a trap around a corner when getting chased.
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>Everyone complains about Silver's wolf form
>Whenever I go into It I get immediately full team focused + CC ult'd
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>>556375263
There is some weird tech were you save the down dash from maj leap while in flight to dodge the Knockdown, but its only marginally faster than your regular down dash
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>>556376034
NTA but it's definitely something you can leave as low priority and just ballmaxx (pivot to ultmaxx late game). Just means you need to play more of a mid-back line zoner and debuff applier instead of m1
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Can I transfer my game settings from one steam account to another?
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Is stun-spam Seven still a thing?
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*swaps places with you*
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Shiv's here. We can't let him claim trophies.
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>>556375859
It will be on when I ult? I just hate hunters 2bh

>>556376002
Nah express shot was always a meme
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>>556376692
I see the professor!
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>>556376121
Because many Silver voters, like me, switched to Celeste. Venator is a boring X360 Gears tier design and not fun.
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6400 item idea: [Passive] Makes all % increases within a certain category (Green, Purple, or Orange) additive rather than diminishing. [Active] Swaps which category the Passive applies to. 50s cooldown
Would this be OP?
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Why does everyone say Pull Back and not Retreat
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Is Graves the worst character in the game now?
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>>556376947
without question yes.
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>>556376869
360 era gears was peak though
>>556376947
why do people see a nerf and act like the character is unplayable didn't you even take a moment to process what the nerf actually is?
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>>556376209
anon you don't seem to get it
i can't even hit a knockdowned or warden caged mo&krill
i get sub 30 accuracy on average and 0% hs
just add aim assist in the game already ffs
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>>556376947
She’s feast or famine
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>>556376947
No that would be Silver based on empirical evidence
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We need battle passes and cosmetics already
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Why does Kelvin do 0 damage.
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>>556376947
In lane? Yes
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>>556376869
Most Silver voters are going for Venator if you look at the discord
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I'LL CARVE EM UP
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>>556376947
You mean like worst to fight or worst strength wise?
>>556377203
Because he has a very loaded kit and is meant to be a disruptive support. Still makes an okay gun character but not as a carry, more a split pusher and harasser.
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>>556366389
silver's far below anything overwatch or valorant has ever released, BOTH in voice acting AND in lore
she's THIS bad...
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revert rescue beam back to 40yds. now!
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>>556377326
BWAAAAAOOOOOHHWWWWAAAAOOHHHWWWWAAAA
I like the sound it makes.
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>boot up Deadlock
>instantly get thrown into a game with a nigger-ape Victor who does nothing in lane but either eat shots and be low HP constantly or off in the fucking jungle not doing anything and all his kills are blatant KSes
>we lose cause I was basically forced to 1v2 lane and no one else on the team popped off + enemy team has Lash at all so every teamfight is just lost cause my team isn't strong enough to just wipe the enemy team instantly
>so Lash just sits somewhere waiting for us to advance, he ults and gets 3-4 people every time cause it takes my retarded team too long to kill anyone and we just lose every fight because of it
>"b-buh muh 3-3 KDA from larping as Anne Frank is better than your 3-7 KDA from actually trying to help the team and having to literally 1v2 lane!!"
Get these retarded niggers out of my game and send me back to the 10k concurrent players days. I fucking hate normgroids and FPS gorilla nigger tourists so fucking much it's unreal.
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>>556377531
Get over yourself you fat nigger
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>>556377531
Relax man, mobas aren't actually competitive high skill games. They're for fun games.
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>>556377128
This. If the enemy team plays passively or is a pair of burst damage faggots that just chunk you and instantly disengage and do it on repeat until you finally die you basically just auto lose as Graves. You only get to have fun as Graves vs low mobility duelists and brawlers and don't get to play the game vs long range casters or shit like Lash. And if the enemy blatantly avoids giving you ANYTHING in lane your game beyond lane phase is still a massive coinflip even vs the things you ideally want to be fighting.
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>>556377443
Newbie question: When you win your lane, but the enemy silver completely runs away with it on another lane, and then starts ripping through your heroes like it's nothing, what do you do? Is there anything you can do? Or is the game just over at that point?
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>>556377850
build curse
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>get rem in street brawl
>don't get rapid recharge
Ok, guess I'm useless.
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>>556377631
>>556377830
This game isn't for you FPS shitskin tranny.
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>>556377531
>>556377995
RAPED
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my game (melee) takes way more skill than ur game (trannylock)
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>>556377520
I swear it's meant to sound like a song or something
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Resistances are so fucking worthless in this game
>Bullet res - still get shredded to shit
>SPirit res - still get nuked to shit
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>be doorman
>die to enemy haze
>she teabags me
>make it my mission to ensure this person suffers
>curse
>rusted barrel
>juggernaut
>disarming hex
>send them to the baroness every single time it's up
>they lose because their carry is too focused on trying to kill me with their negative firerate
>teabag them under their patron as they lose
you teabag me, i make sure you stop having fun
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why are you acting like graves got nuked her split pusher potential is still untouched and she is still nasty to have exist around your teamfights
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>>556376692
YER DEAD
YER DEAD
YER DEAD
YER DEAD
YER DEAD
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>>556368792
>crying about balance changes when you're brooling
for fuck's sake
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Would be cool if the last two to vote in SHOWED the amount of current votes and new votes added to hype up the weekend.
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>>556378259
I love playing doorman so much. It's a shame no one this batch is quite as good as him.
>>556378459
Be prepared for people that treat brool as seriously as people do main instead of as a casual off game. The whole "get new players to play brool" attitude will backfire hard when 24/7 broolers expect to be catered to as much as regular players.
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>>556378523
there is no voting
they just release who is ready at that time
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>>556375373
valve games have 0 censorship
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>>556378674
>they just release who is ready at that time
Silver disproves that
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>>556377203
because he used to do everything and still kinda does
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>>556378821
That just means the other heroes are in even worse shape lol
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>>556378523
depends how far apart they are
if Apollo has 6x the votes as Celeste why bother
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>>556378846
So does Abrams but he gets to be OP?
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>>556378459
>hero was fun in brool
>get nerfed to shit based on nothing but a retarded eceleb video
>hero is not fun anymore

>>556378559
silver gonna have same issues in ranked as well except it's going to be even worse because by 90th minute her ult would require so much rage she would never transform.
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>>556378867
Venator was nearly done for the LAST batch, anon.
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>>556379068
He’s blue
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>>556379068
Abrams caters to faggy chuds. valve won't touch him since faggy chuds are main audience of this game.
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>>556379068
abrams cannot freeze objectives or fly around the map
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>>556374549
vyper dialog is some of the best in any game, which streamer was this? sounds like a retard.
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I wish decay showed the damage it dealt like abilities do. My grug brain just can't appreciate its impact even if I know its doing something.
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>>556379367
you don't need to freeze objectives when you win every fight because you're Abrams
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>>556378559
>Be prepared for people that treat brool as seriously as people do main instead of as a casual off game
I've already seen way too much of this ITT
Retards unironically crying about their team in brool like matches aren't 10 minute memefests with pure rng itemization
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>>556379578
I'm not even an abrams downplayer, he's obviously strong. I think the movement bucket thing was the right move for toning down the fat tanks a bit
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>>556379854
>movement bucket thing
the what
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>>556375373
>f2p valve game
uhmm have you never played csgo/dota, sweetie?
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>catch rem
>attaches to trooper
>jumps to another trooper
>jumps to another trooper
>jumps to another trooper
>attaches to lash diving onto you
>attaches to the Holliday jumping towards you
>attaches to the mo and krill currently comboing you
>attaches to the haze currently shooting you in the head
>attaches to the victor currently taking your walker
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do you think that deadlock will be big in asia?
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>>556379960
movement of ground and air stuff used to be the same for most heroes, yoshi introduced a 3 tiered system to separate them. so haze and viscous are mostly the same while abrams and mo have a slight nerf to their dashes and etc. it was a bit more steeper but people complained.
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i won the match but i played like shit so it was a loss
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>>556380139
Need characters like Tristana, Poppy, Lulu, and Vex for that to happen
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>>556368184
yeeeesssssss
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>>556379068
He's my husband
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>>556380139
i am asian and it is pretty cool
mostly chinese though
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>>556377843
That's why i build Point Blank and Slowing Bullets and Mystic Slow on her
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>>556380139
possible, but asia loves being catered to. people whined about a monkey king hero but I personally think it's inevitable. valve wouldn't ever stoop to that level, but contracting vtubers to play the game is actually a bit of a big deal in asia imo
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>>556380139
Just wait until Yamato gets a remodel
Also the game will get 6 million Chinese players regardless because it will have Steam items
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>>556380139
Yamato's redesign will bring in the JP players
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>>556379403
Albino.
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>>556369181
>>556371382
they'd probably make it easier for 'bigger shots' to occupy the souls space frame1 before they remove the mechanic entirely
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>>556380139
it doesn't have gooner bait, the lore is aggressively western, asians are shit at shooters, system requirements are too high.
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>>556380970
>asians are shit at shooters

movement shooter. positioning is even more important than tracking or headshotting in this game, the adaptation wouldn't be that difficult.
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>>556372437
league > dota
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does anyone have the meme of drifter it looks like an edit of some slav standing all creepy in an alleyway

also the original
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>>556380139
It needs a Chinese pandering character
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>>556373297
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>>556380970
>asians are shit at shooters
They love movement shooters, Asia is literally keeping Apex alive
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>>556380970
>>556381160
https://youtu.be/ppSU5xeEMdU?
just give em shiv and the genes will activate.
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>>556381160
If you arent a movement fiend, you are not beating high ranking players in this game.
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>>556380391
Is the original supposed to be Nappa?
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If I'm an aimlet should I just play more Deadlock or are aim training programs good
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>>556379648
last panel made me laugh out loud
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>>556377843
hmm, she might be better if we had draft. I am yet to get her though so I'll wait a bit longer.
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>>556381472
which I agree with, but I think people over estimate how difficult the movement tech in this game is. it's not GunZ level autism. also the hero batches clearly show they're interested in adding a diverse set of heroes, you don't even need to play aim intensive carries
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>>556381512
Just play more. Guns don't have recoil and movement and positioning are more important.
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>>556370242
capitalism is just when someone else owns something that commie wants to own himself. It's meaningless term.
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>>556381724
Missing my shots on Silver feels like I'm actually crippled
>Miss one bullet
>Haze mag dumps my face and I'm dead or have to go base practically
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>>556380582
That's alright all it takes is a few of you in Taiwan or HK to get it noticed and it will spread to the mainlanders. Japan doesn't play pc besides apex for some reason and KR is a coinflip afaik; Might get them if Mina or any attractive character is on the cover because that's just on KR is. Overwatch use to be huge there before Blizz killed it so maybe on release we'll get kr players.
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Game crashes on startup, verified game files and didn't solve. Sisters???
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Making fleetfoot's passive basically base on silver's ult feels 10x better than before at least.
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>>556381970
Yeah I was surprised it was a bug. Felt awful slashing and slowing to a crawl
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>Playing Silver
>Dash towards someone
>They dash back towards me putting me behind me
>I try to turn around but by the time I do they're gone/rounding the corner
Is this a sign that my mouse sens is too low? I'd mainly been playing Wraith and Ivy before this so the low sens was helpful...
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>>556381512
Just look at where people are when you miss and edit your sensitivity. You probably have too high a sensitivity like most people so when you're almost on somebody you end up missing. For what it's worth Deadlock is fairly easy to hit in most cases and learning movement and the flow of a match is more important than aim
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unfuck silver damnit
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>>556382252
My sens is 0.5 at 800 DPI
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>>556382175

Usually I keep my sense at one right swipe=180° turn, but yeah on high movement games you need to go higher

I used to run 2 different sense, one low for precision aim and then a high toggle on my mouse for getting around the map
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Get your Apollo votes in bros, it's not too late to save him.
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>>556382315
It's actually so bad now I think I popped her ult once or maybe twice in a whole match.
>skill issue
Maybe but it feels fucked that I basically don't have an ult 90% of the time unless someone politely stands still and lets me magdump and heavy melee and 2 into them and THEN I get my ww form. By which time the fight is either won or lost and it goes to waste.
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>>556382534
He’s last bro, I’m sorry
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>>556382315
You have to lane so many fucking shots now AND a full combo just to go into Ult
actually crazy how shit she feels now
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>>556380575
That's weird, he's already married to me..?
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>>556371129
execute skill is just fuckstrong in games like these.
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>>556380618
Yeah that's not gonna help when you can't get in range to begin with. And everybody else has 3-4 stamina or more while you only got 2.
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>>556382534
Once venator is out
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Which hero unironically works at the Pole Palace as a side gig?
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I’m so excited for Venator! It’s just sad that I’ll probably only get to play him once today with the high prio token.
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>>556382751
As opposed to ironically?
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>>556382751
paige
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>>556382751
mo, he hides it from krill
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>>556382751
Lash
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>>556376869
You are a disgusting troon
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>>556381959
overwatch has a fairly decent stronghold in japan, i've seen a few of them try deadlock already.
with how incredibly antisocial they are over there i imagine just getting invited is a massive issue for them.
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>every other game I play has Silver's Feed & Leave
It's all so tiresome
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I had a dream I was playing Venator and his alt fire was his shotgun so you could fire two guns at once
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did the servers die
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>>556372687
T4s have higher win rates in general because only the advantaged team can afford them. In the same way most t1s have poor win rates because it means that player got btfo so hard he could even upgrade his t1 items.
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>>556383007
That would be great but sadly I dont think Icefrog likes alt-fires anymore.
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>>556383007
I had a dream the djinn were giving me custom kit ideas...kino...
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>>556382252
this is retarded advice
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>>556381512
I practice in the ingame training map as deadlock has some quirkiness that doesnt transfer from trainers

Might want to use a trainer to identify your weaknesses tho. My vertical aiming is much worse than my horizontal so thats what I focus on
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>>556380632
Shiv is already in
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sex with Calico
sex with Celeste
sex with Haze
sex with Holliday
sex with Ivy
sex with Lady Geist
sex with McGinnis
sex with Mina
sex with Paige
sex with Paradox
sex with Silver
sex with Vindicta
sex with Vyper
sex with Wraith
sex with Yamato
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>graves hard-nerfed yet again
Why even release her at this point?
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>>556366361
why do these niggers not ban shiv every game? NA too
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Long restful naps with Rem.
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>>556383291
shiv is axe doe
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>>556383661
>he thought gooners knew how to play the game
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>>556383094
Even if you control for teir its 4th highest vit t4 item and even beats out stuff like Crippling headshot
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>>556373613
I wish it makes more sense, like who the fuck is this spirit coming out of the power circle?
Also when new I thought his custodian helmet would turn into an old-timey policecar's flashing lights and go weewoo. Wish it happens lol
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>>556383103
leaves design space for future stuff. I could see future deadlock facets having new alt fires + changed passives or altered abilities at some point
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Imagine complaining about silver gun when she can proc any bullet buildup in two shots except for Toxic and Silencer
>>556380632
I wouldn't mind monkey king if he looked less regal/mythological. Like wearing actually game appropriate clothes. Could make monkeys an offensive/debuff version of rem 3.
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God I hope Priest is an anti-tank. Abrams, Shiv, Mo, all these tank trannies need to be buttfucked into the fucking dirt with how they're running games right now
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>>556383917
ya, I personally picture deadlock MK like a sly cooper character. maybe rival thief to paradox like a Lupin the III or something
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>>556383661
I used Puppygirlfailure as a base and made my own
I max 1 with one point in 3 then max 4 then 3 then 2
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>>556383609
feburary gods lost...
shield bashers won...
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Calling now Celeste is going to be voiced by a man
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>>556383936
imagine thinking there's any game mechanic he can possibly have that makes it easier to kill abrams and shiv without him just equally killing everyone else in the game just as easily.
mo isn't even a problem, he dies super easily compared to those two.
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I accidentally voted for celeste and the amazon ai ordered me a makeup kit???
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Point Blank, Burst Fire, Hunters or Express shot as my 3.2k on Silver?
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>>556384423
it's clown makeup
you're joining the circus
ya know how to walk a tightrope?
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>>556380814
just looked the stream up and holy hell yeah. he complains about the voicelines every 5 minutes.
mega irony pilled twitter brain i guess, idk. it feels like a highschooler trying too hard to be cool and edgy.
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>>556384423
Im sorry Anon.... they are already on their way to give you bottom surgery.....
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>>556383791
Warden's visuals are placeholders. You might have missed that, but his Binding Word's edge visuals are sci-fi. I'm still hoping that they will replace the cuff-claw with a spirit hand that grabs you.
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venator and his little bird cat thing son
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>>556384129
How do you farm without Lifestrike? I feel like Silver's ability to clear camps is so abysmally dogshit you have to spam heavy melee to kill anything.
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I want a cockroach man character as a deliberate metamorphosis reference
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>>556384480
I don't like Express after the change to her human gun form. Burst fire helps her with both normal exchanges + wolf form tho, I like that.
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>>556384257
Good movie.
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>>556384790
yea its kino
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>>556384480
Burst or hunters, I prefer burst but Hunters is more popular
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can they just accept that pudge was a shit hero and rework this retarded piece of shit
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There Is no way venator loses right?
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>>556382751
Abrams needs to pay for his new car somehow.
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>>556384994
>+2.5% glorps when you hit the gobbledygook
kek, Yoshi actually on suicide watch after this trvke
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Can't wait for total Apollo landslide victory.

However, a Venator is fine too...
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>>556384994
Hooking someone in and pressing your bomb -> refresh -> bomb -> punch is undoubtedly the most cerebral gameplay this game has.
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>>556383917
Build up is bait
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>>556376354
i don't know if 6400 for one extra charge is worth it desu
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I'm trying my best to get him in, venator bros.
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>>556385101
>silverfaggot
lel
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>>556380970
>asians are shit at shooters
just because they are bad at cs doesn't mean they are bad at shooters.
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>>556385035
He'll most likely win, which is why you should start using votes on Apollo already so that he doesn't lose to Celeste next.
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Prepare for the most cancer "fuck you greens don't work" m1 ever tonight. Even if he is cool, he's going to be ass to fight.
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Silver's 2 doesn't feel like it makes a lot of sense anymore with the slower ult charge
>She dashes in and leaves herself massively fucking vulnerable for barely any reward
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>>556384480
Express Shot is the core part of her core kit.
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>>556385545
phantom strike bro
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>>556376381
>tried to 1v6 award
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>>556381967
Help?
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>>556382973
I might just ask some of the old OW pros that speak english if they want invites. They got really talented players in kr it's just other than SCBW they play such shite games.
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>>556385753
report on the forums
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>>556380970
>it doesn't have gooner bait
KEK
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>>556385580
Nope its low dps, express shot is for the dumpster
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>>556385580
>Only useful in human form
>Now that her gun has proper RoF she gets value from burst fire in human too
>Point blank helps her stick to people
>Hunters helps her isolate / farm faster
Nah express sucks now
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Has anyone actually mathed out what is more dps, weapon damage or fire rate? I know you want both, but the balance seems to shift as you accumulate boons
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what do i need to build on mina to do damage
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>>556386041
depends entirely on your character and base fire rate since it's all percentage based increases
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Valve seems to be moving towards more conventional and attractive characters compared to the base roster. The new 6 heroes and the last new 6 seem to be way less ugly and deformed over all. The og roster was like some street fighter 3 shit lmao.

It's such a shame all the character dialogue and voice acting is such millennial irony slop though. Really takes away from the gravity and interest they could have.
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>>556386141
Okay, makes sense. Is there any way to show a dps meter via the console?
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>mina is in the game
>now have to fuck up my entire build in order to buy slowing hex, silence wave, and knockdown even if I'm not laning against her
>she buys dispel magic rendering my 8,000 soul investment completely worthless
>she heals through any damage done while slowing hex is applied with 1
>she dispels the silence wave
>presses 2 and escapes the knockdown
>buy curse in order to stop her from using dispel magic
>since curse removes damage, can't kill her in the timeframe she is cc'd
This character is complete bullshit, genuinely what is the counterplay
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>>556386041
Fire rate ends up winning(by a lot) because everytime you buy a fire rate you get weapon damage automatically from the investment. When you get weapon damage it just hit the diminishing returns faster
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>tfw too much of a shitter aimlet to proc Mina's 3
jeezas
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>>556386272
go back
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>>556381401
>Eternus on release if Yoshi reverted the movement nerfs
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silver is so bad holy fuck
how did valve manage fuck up this bad?
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>silver has literal maxed out pick/ban in pro play
>/dlg/shitters say silver is unplayably bad

haha, classic
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>>556385838
>>556385923
Still almost doubles your slam fire damage.
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>>556386498
It’s only a numbers issue? Her skills combo well, her ult feels great, it's literally just a numbers issue. Unless you're upset her kit is 2 skill shots and aiming in which case the issue is you not valve.
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>graves totally ignored in pro play
>/dlg/shitters say graves is gigabroken

haha, classic
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>>556386621
Only because they are being paid by Valve, Blackrock and George Soros to shill her transbian agenda.
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>>556382175
if space isn't the issue, there isn't such a thing as too low sens as long as you aren't dislocating your shoulder. what's your sens and dpi? would help to know if it's actually low or if you just don't know how to aim properly. there are eternus people playing on as low as 0.3 1600 which is 43cm for a 360, past that point you're just going to be needlessly flailing your arm around in fast paced games like this
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>climb to oracle with m1 characters
>yipee
>update comes out
>crash down to whatevers below oracle - 3/2
I swear it cant just be me misplaying at this point, some of my teammates are literally NOT THERE at all. This is the biggest lost streak ive ever been on, idk who to start picking to solo carry a lobby. I might just start playing shiv cause wall jumps are fun since theres no Scout/Soldier yet
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>>556386272
this already started happening with the previous 6, not one unattractive or unconventional character in that batch, far more safe and appealing to the masses
>dialogue and voice acting is such millennial irony slop
this has definitely gotten way worse so far with the newest update
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Slowing bullets is the Silver secret. Procs in 2 shots, lets you land all your other shots and skills after, makes running from the wolf very hard.
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>>556386880
she just got ubernerfed too, the range nerf and bullets slowing zombies practically kills her unless the enemy team feeds
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If Celeste wins that will be the nail in the coffin. There will be no denying that the playerbase is full of trannies.
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>>556386621
>>556386880
damn... it really do be like that...
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make graves' ult an actual structure and let her bounce on it
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I told you retards about Slowing Bullets a week ago
I told you it was the most broken item in the game
I invented Slowing Bullets
I am the meta smith
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>>556387195
I'd let Graves bounce on it if you know what I mean.
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>>556385820
Asian men hate gay porn and furries. And there are no gooner female designs that are comparable to marvel or OW or lol.
>b-but muh mina
1 character out of whole roster, very cool. meanwhile in lol every female character is jerkable.
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>>556387117
the playerbase being full of trannies has been solidly disproven by rem winning first and graves second when all trannies said they were voting for silver
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>>556386676
I guess its ok if you are allergic to greens and hiding in the cuck corner 80% of the time
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>>556386880
t. graves player
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>>556386676
Only if you hold it until you actually slam which isn't always convenient to do
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>>556387117
Or just waifufags. You know. The significantly larger group.
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>>556387117
I would agree regardless of how overplayed the tranny accusations are, but most of them have already voted their favorites in and some are now voting venator/apollo as well
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>>556387319
>Asian men hate gay porn and furries.
bara is literally a japanese word
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>>556387117
>hurr im a fucking retard ughh
Just go back to where you came from nigger
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Have they made Vindictas feet sexy again yet?
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Whats your setup? Im trying this for now, with melee on mouse 4.
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My only complaint with Celeste is non of the leaks mentioned a jumping or movement skill. You know, acrobatics of a circus performer. Better have 4 stam.
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>>556385505
I didn't decide to fuck her shit up
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Celeste is not waifu tier at all. She's a bimbo with tranny color scheme and may actually be one (can't wait to hear her have a tranny VA like Meli Grant in the end after all the unfounded shitposting about Haze).
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does anyone find it weird that there are just like a ton of invisible walls on all the buildings now
you used to just take a ton of damage getting over them and now there's just a big invisible fuck you barrier, it's kinda lame desu
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>>556387319
>Asian men hate gay porn and furries
since when lol, also
>mina
>geist
>paige
>vindicta
>ivy (allegedly)
>silver
>graves
>celeste
>every new female hero to come
there's plenty. I'm not saying they're bad designs or that I dislike them
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>>556387438
Japs are degens, the niggas made like 8 different categories of cucking
Only retarded weebs fall for the muh honorable samurai and shrine maidens. Theirs literally millions of piss AMV videos made in Japan yearly
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>>556384594
I know his entire design is going to be reworked (I'll miss the Bobby hat), but his abilities' particle effects don't seem like they'll be changed that much. For his ult they're probably going to keep it and leave it a mystery for the community to speculate about.
>Binding Word's edge visuals are sci-fi
It's not that noticeably sci-fi like GT or Yamato, it still seems in-line with the rest of the game's outlier designs.
>I'm still hoping that they will replace the cuff-claw with a spirit hand that grabs you.
They're definitely doing that, it's already part of his outfit anyway.
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Graves is literally my favorite hero right now and they keep nerfing and nerfing and nerfing because Seekerfaggots couldn't even spend an hour learning how to counter, entitled crybaby faggots need everything to be as easy as possible.
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How do you guys make viscous do damage? I've got a handle on the combos and flow to a basic level, but I feel like I'm landing punches all day without making a dent. Is gun build still decent after the nerfs, or should I rush crushing fists asap and just rule the midgame?
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don't care still voting for celeste
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>>556387978
Meanwhile Abrams gets to be OP because "Lol that's just how Abrams is bro"
fucking legacy character priv
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What are you supposed to do as silver? you make zero damage
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>>556388115
Hit all your shots with 100% accuracy and also land all your abilities and then do it a second time and have enough HP to be able to go in as wolf form still
she's a mess
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>>556387978
Her ult is still strong as fuck, her 2 is untouched, her 1 was worthless 2 hours after she released and everyone found out how to stop it and nerfs don't really change anything because it already sucks. Chill and pray for a 1 rework like me.
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>>556388003
Go back a maior patch and build gun.
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what is an "acceptable" weapon damage percentage in the mid and late games? for heroes who aren't explicitly there to kill other heroes (like Drifter)?

genuinely wondering
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>>556387978
Youre a fucking retard go play Overwatch formerly known as 2 faggot
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>>556380632
As other Anon said. A monkey king redesigned in 1940s design would actually be pretty sick
Fuck it make him a monk and let's just get close to ripping off dragon ball
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>makes a certain Adolf H. fail the art school entrance exam
What do we say?
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>>556387693
I still want her to turn into a unicorn that lets everyone ride her
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PANDERING TO CHINKS IS HOW YOU END UP WITH MORE SAME FACED SLOP, NO ONE FUCKING CARES YOU YELLOW BUG MAN GO PLAY PUBG MOBILE
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>>556387117
>3 women get voted in consecutively, each with a clear fetish inspired design
>player base is full of trannies
You people are completely mind broken
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>>556388272
>Hit all your shots with 100% accuracy and also land all your abilities
thats impossible in this game
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who is this lady?
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>>556388413
THANK YOU!!
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/dlg/ lets vote Silver's wife in
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>>556388557
does blud know icefrog knows fluent mandarin?
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>>556388623
Let's vote Geist's boytoy in
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>>556388623
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>>556388623
I am voting Venator the knotslut yes
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>>556388573
Yes, it's great isn't it
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>He won?
>Send in the fresh install team.
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>>556388546
OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE
YOUR EYES ARE OPEN
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>>556388749
Imagine Venator getting knotted by a pack of feral wolves....
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>>556388413
>tells Lo-Fi Games to develop Kenshi 2 using Unreal Engine 5
SOMEBODY STOP THEM
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>>556388701
And there was a time where he only interacted with Chinese fans cause western ones were too annoying and gay
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>>556388701
>blud
Kys faggot. Please go back to where you came from!
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Venator prefers Ixian cock though
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>>556387858
Amazing how 5 out of 7 of those characters were added in the last 2 patches (I'm not counting Ivy). And even then they are still far below on the degen scale compared to any other mp game out there.
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I've genuinely yet to see a SINGLE sane post saying they're voting for celeste, anywhere
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>>556388623
you mean Silver's househusband, right?
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how big is celestes futa cock
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>>556389127
-12 inches
It's an extreme innie, iften mistake for a vagina.
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>>556389127
Equine length
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>>556388115
Her bullet dmg in wolf form is 3rd highest behind doorman and paige
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>>556387714
>Celeste is not waifu tier at all
that's true she's for raping virgin boyholes with her massive 20 inches long futa horsecock
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>>556389127
big sloppy horse rod
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>>556388606
Bethany
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>>556388968
>"Geoff, you should totally feature this Highguard game as the One More Thing at TGAs"
They do lots of things!
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>>556389101
This would imply Silver actually makes a liveable wage off bounty hunting
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>Spanish Harlem was a real thing
huh
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>>556388727
>>556388623
did I do it right?
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>>556389089
Trannycore character
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>>556389426
but enough about ivy
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>>556387858
Paige and Mina are still by far the most fap bait I ever seen
School girl goth vampire with short bob hair cut and big titty nerdy girl in a extreme short skirt
It's almost porn parody levels like genuinely I could imagine them being in some shitty weg and desu I feel nothing towards them. It's too much, where's the nuance
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>>556389418
Can I trust you to vote Apollo once Venator inevitably gets in?
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>>556389417
It still exists
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I currently have 123 votes for Venator, when do I get my promised Venator bf who'll carry me in all the games we play /dlg/?
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>>556389531
i'm already voting for apollo after putting 123 votes on venator
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>>556388876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MC0G-Lbuuk

celeste ult needs pyrovision rainbows and shit
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>>556387972
>For his ult they're probably going to keep it and leave it a mystery for the community to speculate about.
I hope they'll at least change the sound effects for it. It sucks right now.
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>>556389531
aye aye cap'n
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>>556389426
>>556389457
both true
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>>556389646
Wow you have the same Venator votes as me!
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played silver for the first time and went beast mode but we had an afk since min 10 so we lost
this char is so retarded you win every 1v2 when splitting while mashing your keyboard
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>>556389618
In 4 hours
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>>556388343
It really #depends

As stated earlier you get weapon damage automatically from buying oranges so you really want like 2 fire rate items, 2 shred items, and one weapon damage

Most shred doesnt stack withitself tho so you kind of want different stuff than your team is buying
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>>556388968
I don't think it can manage to be worse than kenshi 1's engine, even if it barely works that's the case for kenshi 1 the minute you zoom out or have characters in more than one hut
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>>556388701
Does blud know icefrog isnt in charge of character visuals?
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>>556389829
If I'm still playing alone in 4 hours I'm killing (You).
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>>556385576
i went into a game and fast forwarded to 30 minutes and I could still use my usual combo to get instant full rage meter, though sometimes it needed an extra shot like 30-40% of the time.
With items it wouldn't change at all.
>>556384129
>100% annotated
>melee lifesteal
>not annotated
Just for that i'm calling you a faggot despite your build being basically the same exact as mine.
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>kill two as silver in brawl
>pushing up to objective
>get it halfway down by myself
>die to the two I killed respawning
>look at map and see that my teammates have been fighting a mina and geist in separate fucking lanes
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How do I play Victor? What does he actually do? I keep running into them and they're terrifying
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Warden and Venator are the main characters of the story. Aragorn and Boromir.
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>>556387016
>>556387269
Just build Point Blank. It triggers a slow in one shot and dash distance doesn't matter because my Bola disables dash.
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>>556389856
how could I know that, no cap
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more like deadcopelock
more like troonlock
more like deadtranny
more like wokelock
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deadcock lost
overwatch mogged us
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>>556382654
>>556382563
It's crazy how sinclair is currently just flat out better at being silver than silver themselves.
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>>556389826
what are seeker games like these days?
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>>556388623
Victor has been in the game since forever, so I'll vote for venator instead.
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>>556389519
Paige I think is just a poor riff on Velma(but they changed her colors and added a bit of Daphne to try and hide it). Hell if you reverse image search paige shit you just get Scooby Doo AI amalgamations since it looks so similar it gets confused. That Hannah Barbera cartoons were horny would be my defense.
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This game is pretty damn fun 60% of the time but the 40% of games where the team is just endlessly running it down into endless brooling while down 30k souls are just so goddamn boring. What the fuck is wrong with these people?
What the fuck do I even do or play to make these games fun or deal with this shit man? At least in dota I can just que some afk farm carry and still have a chance to do something. It feels like that's not even enough in this game
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Haven't played in a year, every time I see some epic "1v6" clip on YouTube it's just some nigger healing to fill up every 5 seconds via the way too much life steal in the game and going to be honest
It looks really obnoxious
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>Get Street Brawl Silver
>Land my full combo
>Land 2 shots
>Heavy melee
>Still not able to ult
this character is fucking terrible now holy fuck
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nothing can compete with black woman of valve originality and the hourglass wife sorry chinkwatch
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>>556390185
im the purple rank, archon i think
i dont know how you can think shes bad when you just hold W and rape people
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>>556389831
what's a "shred" item?
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>>556390242
Most people find it impossible to play from behind and will continue to force the worst fights imagineable with zero thought behind it.
HMMM. I've died 3 times in lane, maybe I should wait for my ult- NAH LETS FUCKING RUN INTO a 1 v 3 AND CRY ABOUT MY TEAM
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>>556390357
Yes, you have to land your full combo twice to proc it. valve are retarded.
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>>556390242
Use your mic then. People listen 60% of the time or more, actually more likely the deeper your voice is. OW and LoL tourist dont understand anything
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>>556390401
Because anyone who isn't dog ass will just hold S and CC you then walk away
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Breaking new Venator to be voiced by Liam Neeson
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>>556390604
People who bitch about muh team are 9/10 times keyboard warriors
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have these niggers put out an actually decent patch or even one good change in how many fucking months it's been ?
melee ivy and nerfing mina's stamina drain don't count since those are walk-backs and mina still sucks
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Venator gets in today so he put his knee on all Silverannies necks!
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>>556387686
I have an mmo mouse with 12 buttons under the thumb so it's 1,2,4,5 (the four in the bottom left corner of the grid) and 7,8,0,num+ (the four in the bottom right).
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>>556382895
he's got that in him
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Who are the good lane character?
Tired of always getting bullied the first 10 minutes
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>>556390439
lowers bullet or spirit resist, very good items when they have tanks and makes squishies more squishy
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>>556390854
Paige is strong assuming your lane partner isn't retarded.
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>>556390779
I cant use my mic cause I sound like a nerd, and as a biological man I am not partaking in granny voice training just to shot call a video game. All my voice training is to be used to sound like a Indian man or chinese man
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>>556390946
So she's weak
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graves got 2 nerf patches and shes still absolutely retarded
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SILVER FUCKING SUCKS!!! WTF VALVE I WASTED MY VOTES FOR THIS SHIT!!!
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>Can't cancel bebop's ult anymore
Damn they're really trying to remove all sorts of skill expression in this game aren't they? How long before they start listening to only streamerfags and kill the game?
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>Brool
>Enchanced Piano
>Transcended Cooldown
>18 meters wide stun on a 6 second cooldown
Nothing personnel, brooltard, Ill just be taking this win.
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I actually think Silver's gameplay loop feels way better now. Wolf form being harder to charge feels a lot better and it lets you properly learn how to make her human form sorta work. The problem is just that her human form still has a bit too little damage, if they buff that, she'd be in a perfect place.
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>>556388376
Kys nigger youre too stupid to press q
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>>556391090
And she should get nerfed again! The rate at which ghouls spawn is too high or there needs to be extra counter play to her ulti. She can just stand on it and deny it breaking, 80% of the time I take 40% dmg from ghoul spawns mid punch charge. It ruins a lane every 3 minutes on demand, and even if you decide "ill farm them instead to be safe" they have insane health values.
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Ghost Floyd when?
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>>556381914
use cover
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>>556390604
You make a good point, though I already feel my blood pressure rising imagining some stupid ass Yamato baiting another teammate into ignoring the request to relax until we got ultis or something.
Alas, that does sound much more fun to take a leading role as like Lash/Drifter/Warden than afk farming praying team figures out their shit so will give that a try.
>>556390779
I don't really say anything other than sometimes acknowledging calls or asking for help to defend walkers over mic. Usually feels like a pain in the ass to tell people what to do so just listen to music and listen for calls
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I do kind of miss the less flashy direction. Not even going to say the game doesn't look better, but I wonder if we can ever get the earlier sort of duller, less comic look as a set of mods. I like old Lash's portrait for instance where it's a very Leyendecker looking set of colors. But add thick outlines and brighten the colors and it looks more like a silver age comic
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>>556391359
>Wahhh wash why is my unbalanced hero getting balanced nooooo
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When next character
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>>556391363
100%, definitely the strongest char and she's so easy that anyone can pilot her
like if paradox is really OP then it's whatever since you need some skill to play her but chars like graves should never be this good when they can be played by people with 10 matches to perfection
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>>556391573
Never fuck you game canceled
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>>556391573
3 hours
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man the matchmaking is so fucked
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>>556390832
Stop posting this image, it gets me hard.
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>>556391515
As drifter i think its ok to comm less until later because youre a character who should predominantly hunt alone, as for lash and warden though you def wanna mic up. Especially for lash ulti, warden can kind Change Da World on his own but its much easier with someone there to help
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>get refresher first round on lash
>enemy team all get spellbreaker on 2nd

That sucks man
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>>556391220
I had a brawl match where the enemy Kelvin got Infuser and Leech round 1. Literally nothing we could do to stop him just beaming us to death while healing all damage he took.
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>>556390696
They should hire another stage actor like they did for Doorman
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SILVER FUCKING SUCKS ASS FUCK YOU VALVE MY PATIENCE IS RUNNING OUT WITH THESE FUCK YOU CHARACTERS
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>>556368807
Mohammad & Al-Krill of course
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I've already seen 5 trannies say they will drop the game of venator wins
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>>556391352
I agree, she feels nice to play now, she just needs more numbers.
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Is there a solo carry end game thanos character i can play? Im sick of my teammates. Id say 7, but I hate his ultimate
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>>556392119
everything that sucks about silver is just numbers, she'll be good in a month
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FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK SILVER UCKS SO FUCKING HARD FUCK VALVE!!!!
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>>556392412
That's a good thing.
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>>556392412
I am a tranny and I speak for all of my allies and the third world when we have said we will drop the game if Apollo beats Celeste
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>>556392412
>I already made up this thing that never happened
Wow anon that was a funny post, me and my 16 underage girlfriends are all laughing at your post! Epic troon ownage! Haha game on venator bros xD
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>>556391363
JUST THROW AOE SKILLS AT HER TOMBSTONE
>I DONT HAVE ANY SKILLS FOR THAT
THAT JUST MEANS YOURE A BAD MATCH UP
THEY EXIST ALL OVER THE GAME
BUY ALCH FLASK LOSER
OR USE YOUR GUN THAT OUTRANGES EVERYTHING SHE HAS
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I will buy Rem a white monster
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>>556392412
Everyone wins within three weeks, are they stupid?
bet they don't play the game in the first place.
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>leave lane
>die to a Victor, the hell
>tab
>15/0/whatever
How do you even feed a big creep 15 kills in lane
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>>556392603
>underage girlfriends

let me guess, REM main?
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>>556392451
Haze, Wraith, Warden all can solo-carry the game just by getting insane farm and stat-checking the enemy team. Abrams is also tanky as fuck and can nuke people 100-0 with a good charge but his farming isn't as good as other characters. Shiv can also solo-carry games but he's harder to play, I still think he's the most annoying hero in the entire game though fuck that guy.
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how come there's a victor in every single game but no one plays paradox, mo and krill, etc anymore
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>>556391772
Normally I'd been playing Grey Talon/Drifter/Seven but figured I'd need to shift GT n 7 to lash/Warden if wanted to comm leading at the front rather than just bitching telling everyone what to do while I farm.
That sounds good tho, been wanting to try Rising To Occasion n lash stuff thanks for advice.
I'd try to do it with Silver too but eh feel like she can't start partys and is way better at crashing partys could be wrong though
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>>556391582
Should make it Celeste since Apollo is going to win in a few hours.
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>>556392603
Go check Twitter then
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>>556392412
Why do you hang out with so many trannies sussy Anon
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>>556392451
Victor and Haze are probably the biggest late game heroes.
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>>556392412
message posted from local house of mirrors
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>>556392605
tombstone nests lost to:

-AOE spirit nukes
-tanks or bruisers with spirit shield/res
-just throw graves out with displacement
-can phantom strike her
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>>556392747
victor is fun and they aren't?
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>>556392636
How does he have 15 kills but you're too fucking brainrotted to hear them all go off?
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I HATE HOW VALVE KEEPS CONSTNATLY RAPING DEADLOCK LIKE FUCK SAKE THIS GAME IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE AS FUCK YOU VALVE AND GABEN I HOPE TIM SWEENEY BANKRUPTS VALVE
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>>556392909
victor players need a shower
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>>556392787
Why would anyone wish to do that?
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Silver needed the nerfs because she was too good in pro play. The only thing that really matters, if you think I'm wrong you're retarded, pros bring new players to the game.
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>>556382751
vyper
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>>556392993
Pros dont bring shit LMFAO
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>>556392747
Because the latter are suffering if your teammates are shit. You can't really carry and half of what you do will be wasted and/or backfire.
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>>556392993
>in pro play
Literally no such thing btw
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>You can parry once every 2 minutes
>you can heavy hit every second
Why?
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>>556393101
but it feels like they were way more popular a year ago
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>>556390268
how else would they fight 6 people at once retard
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Holy fuck Graves is trash now...
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>>556392940
I'm deafblind. Bet you're proud of yourself now, faggot.
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>>556393189
less characters in game the game back then
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>>556393189
A year ago we had like 12 characters. Of course they were gonna be played more often.
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>>556392993
>pros bring new players to the game.
In what world is that even close to true? people who stick around tend to play competitive and maybe watch pros but no one comes to a game due to pros, they come because the game itself looks fun, not due to what 12 hyper autismos do.
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>>556393168
Its cause heavy melees are very important for burst damage in this game, throwing heavy melees when bursting someone down is insanely helpful.
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>>556393168
because if you land a parry you instantly get to kill the guy? are you retarded?
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>>556392993
The only thing pros provide is something for people that are already fans of a game to do to enjoy the game that isn't playing it
They are fucking nothingburger
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>>556393278
i guess so, ive never really played anyone but yamato seven and vindicta
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>>556388606
boho
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>>556392993
Bait used to be believable. No one gives a single fuck about a "pro" in a closes beta game. Let alone the pros of deadlock who have 0 personality and are just info resources.
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>>556393326
> you instantly get to kill the guy?
That's retarded as well, the stun time should be lowered as well, the game at its core doesn't lean into melee at all
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does holliday lasso cancel every other ult
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>>556393476
Volvo evidently puts stock in them because they immediately nerfed Silver in response
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>>556390854
mina is the designated "always win lane" character
you can also go mcginnis, you'll never lose lane but you usually don't win it either
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Silver is literally broken and deserved the fuck out of those nerfs, is /dlg/ literally just a bunch of seekers who think she's bad because they can't aim for shit?
the moment she unlocked her ult she became unkillable in laning stages and even later if they built items properly (unlike /dlg/ retards that go spirit or full gun for some retarded reason)
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>>556392621
I will give Graves my white monster.
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>>556392960
Cute rem fanart
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>>556391168
I used to love pumpfaking in fights, I'm not sure why they took it away. It's not like it was broken or something.
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>>556393692
post your rank lil bro
I bet you're not even phantom
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>>556393692
/dlg/ still cries about Haze even after two years of nerds because they didn't want to buy metal skin back in 2024, and nobody in comp picks or even bans her

Yes, they're all shitters in Arcanist and Seeker levels of ranked. I don't even know what order those go in I've never been below Oracle.
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I'm not going to mass reply but I literally found this game because of the nightshift which are the current pros. So again cope all you want.
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>>556393281
>they come because the game itself looks fun
Not him but pros are a big part of that. Companies dump money into tournaments because it's good advertising for their game.
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I wish graves came out last so fucking tired of this character in my games. Such a stupid design holy shit, break her legs next patch I don't care if she's balanced she's such cancer
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i just started playing, how long until my teammates stop ignoring the minions and perma fight like drooling retards??
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>>556386973
I've been thinking about playing, can you tell me what you think the best M1 characters you are playing are? I just wanna solo carry and raw aim / track I don't really care about anything else or MOBA stuff
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>>556391582
apollochads are the most persecuted class on earth
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>>556393981
idk, i guess personally i've never given a damn about pro games for a vidya i'm not already playing, and even then its still kind of rare for me.
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>>556394008
no man shes weak thats why she got 2 hotfix nerfs
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>>556394159
I never thought I'd see this crossover.
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>b-buy healing ri-
BITCH I'D RATHER DIE
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>>556394228
I can't wait to talk like bartleby for an entire match while feeding (but at least I'm mantlesliding and parrying)
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>>556394159
>rem, come to me my bitch
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Silver is worse version of Calico or Drifter. Like waaayyyy worse.... Like absolutely shit version of them.
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>>556394308
p-pwease bwuy regen...
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>>556391582
so it is written

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>>556394380
>>556394380
>>556394380
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>>556394308
I buy healing rite if my lane friend needs it.
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>>556394308
Healing rite has barely been a thing ever since the health packs were introduced.
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>>556394401
Man people really don't know what they're doing on silver huh
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Is there any reason now to buy those two green items that give u lifesteal and health regen? And one of them increases ur damage too?

Idk I feel they're kind of a nobrainer on everyone. Gives u great passive healing, great healing on damage, and even a bit of extra damage.
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>>556394176
I think a big part of it is just that it's an easy way to see if a game looks interesting without having to sort through random, annoying retards hoping to find somebody actually trying who knows what they're doing.
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>>556394424
based, thank you
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>>556394452
good honse friend
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>>556394749
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>>556394813
3 minutes too late dumbass
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>>556394813
kys
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>>556394813
遅いバカ
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>>556394147
>I just wanna solo carry and raw aim / track I don't really care about anything else or MOBA stuff
This is not the game for you, you could be the best Haze in the world, one to make every aimhacking snoworc pale with envy, and you'll still get your shit pushed in by a Mo who farmed better than you and has better macro skills.
I don't mean this cruelly but if you just want to aim/track go back to TF2 or CS.
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Im not as excited as I was the last 3 times



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