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You Used to be Nice Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>556493089
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Would you let Rem play fortnite?
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they patched all the broken damage interactions with ira domina yet?
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Should I enable "Extra competitive"? I feel like it won't make a difference.
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That's a BIG BITCH!
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>>556515293
I severely doubt it changes anything. all my matches have been the same since i turned it on, it doesnt make sense for it to be like a queue with other people that have it on cuz it'll just hamper queue times for no reason.
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>>556515298
Never in my life did I think a pretty pink unicorn girl would potentially be my favorite character in a game
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>>556515298
>stilettos and fishnets
Celeste
>i'll be your hot mess
Silver
>school girlin girl
Graves
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i really like Venator but whenever i get him my team is full of mouthbreathers that cant do shit why do i get a 2/17 graves in my team
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Yuri with Mina and basically anyone else
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>>556515191
I would force rem to play boomer shooters and fighting games to be based
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>been hanging onto paladins until recently
>it was time to finally let go and I heard deadlock has similar aspects like the item shop and stuff
>looks cool and has cute girls but it's invite only
>think it probably has a general on /vg/, turns out I'm right
Can I still get an invite please? If yet should I take some security steps before posting my profile?
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Street brawl's pretty fun
>low pressure
>lets you practice a hero's kit in combat
>worse healing means combat in the standard mode actually feels a bit easier
It's exactly the mode I needed. Way more enjoyable to test out a hero in a 20 minute match vs a 1 hour match where I also need to prepare a build ahead of time
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*gives any frontliner a whopping 50% spirit resist making them unkillable*
THANK YOU!!
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New player here. What are the best counters to self-heal? I know healbane ofc but should I be replacing that with something as the match goes on?
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>>556515298
leak her kit already reeeeeee
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>>556515705
Healbane on everyone, Spiritburn on Spirit characters, Toxic Bullets on gun characters, Decay on supports
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>>556515298
>>556515461
I like unicorn girls, just hope she's not gay.
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>>556515705
Depends on your character. There's a few gun and spirits items that also anti heal, like toxic bullets.
These days the best thing to do is just but Curse.
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>>556515641
I like it because decades of moba have made me want to never play another laning phase in my life
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>>556515615
Just post your steam ID
>security steps
what, someone's gonna steal your CSGO items and tell your family you have 2000 hours in katawa shoujo?
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>>556515615
Just post your friend code, no one cares to fuck with you because lots of people post their code here it's not gonna be anything special.
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>>556515615
yes
depends on how much you care about anons finding your profile cringe
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WHY ARE QUEUE TIMES SO LONG?!
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I'm glad Venator is kind of generally chill and a good man, and only gets nasty in the thick of the fight. Good until forced to be otherwise. Better than another generic nutjob priest.
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>>556515641
If Mina spread her legs in front of me and lifted up her skirt to reveal her glistening bare pussy and smugly beckoned for me to give her oral sex my head would get all dizzy and floaty and I'd cum without even touching my cock within a minute of starting to lick her just from just the taste and the smell and raw primal desire and excitement, and I'd dutifully continue with seed dripping from my tip without ever going soft and then probably cum 5 more times the same way.
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Would they have been a good couple?
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>>556515875
laning phase can be fun, early game brawls are exciting as long as your teammate doesn't suck
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>>556515681
*mogs you at shuffleboard*
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>>556515805
>just hope she's not gay.
oh sweetie..
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>use my token to play Venator
>Mo and Graves swap to my lane
>be disarmed and have gun damage
>my lane partnet is REM who just sticks himself on my ass and does nothing
>after my first death 6 minutes in politely say "this is a very rough lane for Ven, would anyone like to swap"
>REM, in a slav accent who slurs his words like he has brain damage, just says "you just bad" and calls me a pig for suggest Mo is an antigun hero
>later our Silver tells me to fuck off when I rotate to help them in a 3v2
>then screams at me "GIVE ME GUN BOOF GUN BOOF" but then Haze steals it and starts swearing at me in Russian as if I stole it
>at the end I get blamed for not joining fights and just farming
This is by far the most fatiguing part of Deadlock, having to take shit from these fucking orcs. We got stomped too
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>>556516026
Are Ixians generally seen as inherently demonic then? Abrams seems like a chill guy. His worst offence being his pragmatism that allows him to be friends with Wraith and agree to working with Geist
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>>556516083
She would guaranteed murder him for life insurance
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Who wins custody?
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>>556515884
>>556515948
My profile is barebones but I got hacked once and got some of my TF2 items sold off before I recovered the account.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198005701327/

Thanks in advance.
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>>556515805
She won't be. Despite the troon propaganda not a single character in this game is gay.
Vyper is the only one who is maybe gay but that's only because she apparently really likes some stripper
Pocket is hiding "their" identity
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>>556516185
ixians look like traditional demons, so it makes sense it took a few decades for prejudice to subside
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>>556516147
shitter
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>>556515236
Yes
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>>556516147
Just play on NA like everyone else
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I'm glad that venerator is exactly as cool as I was hoping he would be
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>>556516026
ayo hol' up. Is he sayin' Ixians look like monstas?
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>>556516091
I do enjoy the early 2v2 a lot, winning the parry mindgames feel extremely satisfying but I just got tired of last hitting minions at some point in my life
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>>556516142
FUCK

Is the werewolf girl straight at least?
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>>556516264
vyper is more like "down to fuck anything that's warm enough"
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>>556516083
Pocket is intersex and his balls barely work so all he can produce is a thin trickle of watery seed.
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why do you guys choose to fantasize about all this gay shit in public here? mina isn't real, keep it in your own stupid head.
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>Graves main
>Decide to go on twitch and see how others are playing graves
>Click highest viewed currently playing graves
>their vtuber avatar is in front of their item, their HP and their level.
You can see the souls in the top I guess. But man. Do people really care that much about anime avatars that they are willing to have them "stand in front of the tv" as it were? I'm watching for 5 minutes, and I feel annoyed by this.
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can i stop getting fucking tankbuster rems
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>>556515503
If youre going to talk about mid boss at min 20 how are you going to pretend that the people chasing the Graves in the side lane are going to get to mid boss by the time the graves is up in 40 seconds?
Not to mention you're completely ignoring nuance like what ultis are up, how ahead is each time, what are the waves looking like on the map.
You have to shove the wave at the graves you just killed, and that either means youre 5v5 at mid anyways, or youre giving up at least 1 walker for free, or its now too late and the window is gone. After 30 minutes when the death timer is finally long enough she's already done her damage for 2/3rds of the entire game.

So disingenuous.
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How the fuck do you lane vs Rem/Graves
They literally just autowin without doing anything
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>>556516459
Play with me
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>>556515742
Apparently her kit is
>some kind of fireball
>give a single target barrier that has damage reflection
>projectile that bounces between enemies
>ult is some kind of stationary damage channel, which to me sounds like Seven or Bebop ults
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>>556516147
It feels like token games are generally shittier than normal games, but that might just be the hero MMR
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Why is my Recently Played With empty?
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>>556516361
>straight
oh sweetie..
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>>556516451
People who watch women play games aren't interested in stellar gameplay anonymous
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>>556516485
They do lots of things!
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>>556516443
Because they don't play the game
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>>556516264
Thank you.
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>>556516361
Chill the thing they’re referencing is a line between the two about getting drinks, stop taking them seriously.
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>>556516451
Vtubers are basically all background content, they're generally meant to be listened to and not watched
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>>556516361
Seems to be.
She asks Venator our for drinks and seems to have history with Abrahms.
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>>556516485
You run Graves down and slaughter her. She has no escape, is kind of slow and bad stamina. Jump her salt line and shoot her skulls if she throws them. She hasn't been out for very long and I can't tell you how many times I ran her down and destroyed her as she was slowly backpedaling away
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>>556516546
>>ult is some kind of stationary damage channel, which to me sounds like Seven or Bebop ults
since we know she's "dazzling" I really hope it's just kotl will-o-wisp
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graves gaming :3
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so what's the counterplay to gun abrams? he is tanky as fuck and also does a ton of damage, it seems really unfair
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I haven't played for over a year...
Are deadlock matches still 45 minute slogs?
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>>556516891
Depends on skill level of the players involved
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Any streamer that:
>solo queues
>no camera
>no music
>no mods
>speaks english
>is not an eceleb
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>>556515298
>splits
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Doing this to every Venator player I encounter and they WILL learn to love it.
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>>556516838
key player graves
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>>556516891
Usually around 35m for me, with a 45+ match every handful of games. They added a 10m gamemode if you have terminal baby brain. Or try climbing into a rank tha knows how to play the game.
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>>556516485
Buy this and kill them when they overextend
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>>556516970
just spectate matches in-game
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The existance of a key player implies the existance of a "lock" player who plays the game locked up.
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After Apollo they're announcing the open beta in late 2026
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What is the appeal of these bitch-type characters?
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>>556515191
Rem is for bible school and veggie tales. And doom.
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>>556516970
basically any single digit stream
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>>556517128
femdom
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>>556517128
they are for fatherless people
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>>556515641
It's not fun unless Paige is banned
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>>556516970
https://www.twitch.tv/thes1tuation
https://www.twitch.tv/cosmeticall
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>>556517128
>Canonically fucks dogs
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I'm slorkin it
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>>556516485
if they're buffing troopers monster rounds is mandatory
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We need
>rat hero (legally distinct skaven)
>fae hero (legally distinct Mireska)
Thank you for your attention on this matter.
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>>556516970
>>556517223
I forgot to add
>is eternum 6
I just want to see Deadlock played really good
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>>556517128
i can fix her
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>>556516690
probably, i'm getting flashbacks to that time i went to the overwatch general when i tried picking that game up for a week.
guess deadlock is already in that late stage general phase where it's just coomers typing all their horny thoughts into the void.
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>>556517128
i'm literally mina irl except i'm a boy
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>>556517128
agp..
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>>556516485
Graves is slow as fuck and has very poor poke
Rem's 2 has a long cooldown early which means he isn't able to heal his teammate that often and you can kill them. Besides that uhhhhhhh hope he fucks up because otherwise he's stupidly mobile and has good poke and can permapush the wave with one point in his 3 and if you try to chase him with his ult up the best you can do is force him to use it to escape
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>>556517223
>cosmeticall
He disconnects if he doesn't get the hero he wants and ragequits.
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>>556517382
So you are Asian? You are a girl anon
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>>556515681
>be me
>be good at lots of things
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>>556517318
Idk who Mireska is but I think a fae that got into law would be funny, if possibly too Doorman in vibe. How would you implement fae contracts as a mechanic?
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>>556517382
Post spread asshole.
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>>556517128
For me, it's because I want to give her correction.
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>>556517128
I played one game as Mina, shit on the enemy team, then never played her again because her personality is annoying.
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It doesn't matter anymore
It doesn't matter anymore
But I wish you and I talked a little bit longer
Before you put that crown on my head

LORD FORGIVE ME
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>>556517318
Krill should be redesigned as a rat, would go well with Mo. Keep the va.
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>>556517128
Adds some spice, variety and banter to the game. Do you want every hero to be some harem anime accessory saying nice things nonstop?
THE LASH is the best character anyway.
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>>556517431
yeah i play with him sometimes and hes typical faggy ego player
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>>556515681
>Build yellows
>Click heads
Sorry chuddy
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Celeste won so fucking hard it's crazy.
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>>556517318
Celeste is the fey hero. Unicorns are literally the most fey shit ever
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IM GONNA NAIL THAT FUCKING ROBOT TO A CROSSS ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>556516881
if going true gun he's not actually that tanky, othewise he's just a tanky bruiser like billy
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Post chats.
>>556517613
Her animations and her model touch up have actually made me switch off apollo for these last few votes, for all that it matters. Good quality stuff. Also we still don't know apollo’s kit.
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I don't know what items I should replace on Lash when the game goes to 70k+ souls.

also, rate my build.
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>>556516212
Okay, sent friend invite. After you accept I'll invite to game, it'll take like half an hour for it to show up in your email.
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>>556517128
You're probably mentally damaged by women that you thought were nice but ended up treating you like trash, so you think that if you find one that's always mean she'll turn out to be secretly nice.
>other women are bitches in sheep clothing, but maybe the ones that are bitches on the outside are just as hurt as me and do that for self defense because they're nice on the inside
Or some sort of monster girl appeal
>why are you attracted to monster girls?
>because the monster is on the outside

Either way, it's not healthy mentality.
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>>556517613
Winners:
>REM, Graves, Venator, Silver, Celeste, probably Apollo
Losers:
>Silver trannies

All is right in the world
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>>556516209
Venator, I don't make the rules it's just how it is
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>>556517808
Mystic Shot, obviously.
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They desperately need to revert Graves range reduction
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>>556517808
no reverb is griefing
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>>556517549
>changing Krill in any way
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>>556517808
Mystic Reverb
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>>556517318
Rat King soon. Secret 7th hero.
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>>556517738
>>556516352
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>>556517318
We just need more white guys like warden and apollo
No more women no more monsters
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>>556517613
Not so fast tranny
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>>556517765
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>>556517850
I just want to fuck Mina and make her messy after wild sex bro it's not that deep
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>>556517914
No they don't. I'm saying this as someone that will probably permanently have her on my 3 picks in the future. What they need to do is rework her 1, even if the skull stagger changes made it marginally less worthless.
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>Venator WR at 47%

Can no one aim his ult or something? I'm raping it up every match
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>>556517842
Thank you.
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it feels like this game has none of the good parts of mobas or hero shooters. the only fun i have is the last minutes of the match where i'm fully farmed and geared
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>>556517850
If Asuka spread her legs in front of me and lifted up the skirt of her yellow sundress to reveal her glistening bare pussy and smugly beckoned for me to give her oral sex my head would get all dizzy and floaty and I'd cum without even touching my cock within a minute of starting to lick her just from just the taste and the smell and raw primal desire and excitement, and I'd dutifully continue with seed dripping from my tip without ever going soft and then probably cum 5 more times the same way.
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>>556517808
drop mystic shot headhunter
pick unstoppable and reverb, if you really want the gun investment get spiritual overflow
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>>556517808
replace two gun items with spellslinger and defensive of your choice (unstop/e shift/spirit resilience/metal skin)
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Having autoaim heroes is not a bad thing. Lets players focus more on the MOBA aspects of the game. DL is complex enough even without taking aim into account.
That said Graves is weird because outside of being the only full autoaim hero in the game her skills are all piss easy. At the very least keep some mechanics by giving her a couple skillshots holy shit.
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>>556517425
>the watch
THAT REM IS A SPY
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>>556518215
>Having autoaim heroes is not a bad thing
It is
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>>556516361
every character is straight until proven definitively otherwise
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>>556518067
You being horny for the hot girl is not the same as being attracted to abusive people in general.
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I love venator's ult but the rest of his kit just feels like it really lacks ''agency''
His traps require you to be on the defensive because good luck trapping someone that's walking away and his knock back needs a wall to trigger your blessed melee.

The problem is if you get a lead, it becomes hard to snowball your lead on such a offensively lacking character (outside of when you have your ult ready but fuck me the cooldown is long)
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>>556516546
This is just Witch Doctor
They made Witch Doctor again, but as a circus whore unicorn


god i know two trannies that are never going to stop fucking asking me when i'm coming out because i start playing celeste a bunch
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>>556518215
I would LOVE for her 1 to be changed to something more engaging, like a magic bolt or something. I'm fine with her 2&4. Her 3 is whatever to me
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>>556518327
It is because I want to dick the bitch out of those characters if even for just a few hours.
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>>556518132
It's the opposite problem. People think he's just an ult bot, when he should be played like Warden/Haze as an M1 monster.
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>>556518132
he's not especially mobile or tanky
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>>556518109
Its only worthless on lane, in teamfights when you spam it its still great.
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>use token
>someone leaves literally before we get zipline
>game is safe to leave
>lose token
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>>556518270
Get over yourself
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>>556517482
This.
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*ting ting ting*
DIE
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>>556518132
He dies easily
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>>556518393
>lacks agency

he's stronger up close thanks to shotgun and trap combos, you need to play to his strengths. also his traps can be nastier than talons if you actually be sneaky about it.

there's also some fakeout depth to his ult mode since you still have access to his abilities and melee
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so we're definitely getting a mummy hero right? feels like we're going to get all of the classic universal monsters
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>>556517712
Not the same fuck youuuuu give me a fairy
>>556517473
>How would you implement fae contracts as a mechanic?
Probably something involving changelings (so head collecting or some bonus when getting assists) or I'd steal Oracle's kit
>spell does a fuckton of damage but then heals you back
>spell that purges debuffs
>you can combo it to spell your ally, not do damage, but give him heals
>or do damage to an enemy, but then purge the heal before it ticks
>if you fuck it up you'll heal your enemy or kill your friend
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im literally mina except im male, not asian, not 5'2, and not a vampire
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>>556518573
>>556517482
only correct answer
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>>556517318
we need the following moba archetypes:
>guy who spins a lot
>guy with blink ultimate on low cooldown
>female centaur
>frost archer
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how do you get silver ult now? I shot a haze 100 to 0 and it filled about 70% of the bar. am I missing something? seems really hard to trigger it in lane
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How do you get these healthbars?
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>>556518393
His traps are good in sustained engagements. Like those "are we actually gonna go in" kinds of staredowns around blue walker. Where you all want to teamfight/know they want to but are just waiting for the right moment. Anticipate fights and just start throwing out your traps, people WILL start walking into them while more focused on other shit. Just fling them into teamfights.
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>>556518707
I feel like a mummy and a classic green skinned, broom riding witch isn't out of the question.
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Can someone give me a qrd on shiv? Tried him but he felt weak, he was tanky but weak.
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>>556517903
>>556518164
>>556518171
seems like everybody hates the gun items. I feel like they do decent damage? especially in the earlier game? so just ditching them as the game progresses for more spirit items then?
>>556517930
>>556517945
hmmm, I guess I should drop expansion for reverb.

thanks broskis.
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>>556488817
>>556491129
>>556490897
>>556487476
yea, right now she's a temu vyper written by a fifteen year old trying to be a cool and edgy tomboy. not only are her voicelines viewfinder-tier garbage, her voice and delivery of them also sucks. she needs to sound desperate and a lil' bit resigned, through to be fair her lore's ALSO just temu vyper; i found a good rework proposition for her on the official 'cord's fan-art board (pic related), tho she could also be rewritten as being initially pretty successful in life (enough not to be a hobo drunkard), but then slowly spiraling towards destitution due to organizations like the baxters hogging up jobs for themselves, new regulations making it harder to be a bounty hunter in one way or another as well as the world simply adapting itself and its people to magic more and more, resulting in less beasts to hunt, less things to find, etc.

also, imo it'd be interesting to see a werewolf/beast character that sounds somewhat resigned and desperate, especially in her cursed form (tho from what i see many people would hate that so i guess limiting that to her human form will suffice), with her being more "damn i *NEED* not to fuck this up or i'll end up dead on a sidewalk" and "my throat's killing me, i should have had one for the road before this (alluding to her alcohol problems)", rather than just being "haha im such a bum eggs dee look how angry and edgy i am haha i drink btw" delivered in the most generic edgy woman voice possible, like jesus christ almighty
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>>556518860
>he thinks hes allowed to ult as silver
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>>556517473
one of the two dota onaholes
>>556518906
>and a classic green skinned, broom riding witch
A witch with a huge hat is mandatory
>>556518860
You wait for a patch, she's unusable.
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>>556518871
>forgot image
Oops lol
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>>556518958
Silverfags are NOT gonna be happy about this
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>>556518860
I think we have to build cooldown reduction now.
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>rolled into lightning scroll and refresher on graves my last brawl game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQN5jSXqqWg
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I hear ya ult bug's been fixed now Father
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>>556518951
>especially in the earlier game?
Yes, that's the idea. Also, good on you for being good enough at aiming to get value out of Mystic Shot. I could never do that.
>so just ditching them as the game progresses for more spirit items then?
Yes. Maybe not Headhunter, unless you really need to spend some souls.
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>>556517554
>Do you want every hero to be some harem anime accessory saying nice things nonstop?
/vg/ has a large Southeast Asian demographic and most of them do unironically get angry when that's not the case.
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>>556518958
Mucho texto
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>>556518860
You don't. I don't know what they broke but they broke something about it.
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>>556517939
M&K are definitely gettting an update at some point in the future, krill makes no sense, is he a monkey man? A goblin? What even is he supposed to be?
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>calico
>get baited with an enhanced split shot
>game gives me 0 gun items after this
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>>556519045
She also must have warts and a REALLY annoying cackle.
But what would her kit be? Ult would be whipping out the broom and flying around obviously. I feel like something to do with potions or other cauldron brew would be appropriate. Maybe AOE support?
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The game's balance is worse currently than Overwatch's at its worst balance
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>>556518734
she's 5'10 with heels
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Hear me out
Venator vortex grenade build
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>>556519534
she must not be asian then, ive never seen an asian girl above 5'5
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>>556519148
cooldown reduction doesn't increase bloodlust gained, it only decreases the actual cd between transformations.
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Noooo little spirit boy!!! Don't go into the soul casino!!!
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>>556519379
>me coming to terms that I am dogshit at aiming veranators grenade launcher shot factoring in the bounce

Its been a while since I played a game with that kind of g launcher
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>>556519567
building any spirit item on venator is a mistake
yes, this includes rapid recharge and QSR
you're correct that the grenade build is best, though
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auto aim is a downside
there's been a bunch of cases with graves where the enemy weasels away with 10hp and if i was any other character i could just shoot them but with graves you gotta close the gap
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>Rem support mitigates spirit damage
>Paige support mitigates all damage
When do we get a support to mitigate gun damage?
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>>556518436
>They made Witch Doctor again, but as a circus whore unicorn

that's kinda based doe
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OH NO NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
GAY PRIEST LMAOOOOOO
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>>556516485
Try shooting Gaves
Her effective range is 3 feet away and yours is higher, even if you're Drifter.
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>>556519598
I've seen some big ass chinese women
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>>556519378
I just fucking told you, he's Italian.

>>556519534
>>556519598
5'6 without heels.
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>>556519727
>just play mo and krill and stand in front of the teammate soaking up the bullets hello
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Rem and Graves are easily the worst additions to the game. Rem opened the doors to "le heckin wholesome pupperino babyspeak XD" furfag crowd and Graves is a 0IQ autoplay retard champ made for egirls.
Silver feels halfbaked and has the shittiest gun in the game.
Venator is a good addition in terms of gameplay and personality.
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My votes are going to Glup Shito now
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>>556519835
Purple means lent, dumbass. Learn your liturgical colors.
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I'm considering learning Mina and I'm noticing the top builds don't build unstoppable.
Is getting hit by slowing hex and knockdown not a concern when playing her?
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>>556518443
how is a magic bolt more flavorful than her jar of pickled heads? also, it forces carries to light melee or shoot the skulls to stop the damage, that's powerful mid teamfight
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>>556519835
Vatican priests have purple robes and they're color coordinated with those.
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>>556519946
your 2 invulnerable dashes, sister??
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>>556519713
> building any spirit item on venator is a mistake
Lmao no retard
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How do you counter silvers wolf form if you're out of position and have no stamina
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>>556519835
You posted this already
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>>556519926
As a furfag I played the game before Rem and only care for him for his gameplay and him being a support, I already have my jerk off fuel with other characters in the roster.
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>>556519946
Dispel Magic removes Slowing Hex
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>>556519926
Fuck you Rem is the best of the bunch
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>>556517318
Having the rats of New York City mutate from magical energy and build a vast subterranean empire under the city, swelling with malice and occult infernal machinery in preparation of swarming the surface, is such a banger concept I don't even care if GW will sue them for it.
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is there a way to make the killfeed last longer than 2 seconds?
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>>556520023
All Catholic priests wear purple at certain points in the liturgical point in the year or for certain masses. Advent and lent are the two big ones, but masses for the dead are also a reason for purple vestments.
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>>556520115
you don't have to counter it anymore, just buy 1 bullet resist item and she can't charge her ult at all
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>>556520115
start making out with her
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>>556519926
>Silver tranny has a shit opinion
Whom could've guessed
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>>556519835
I mean, even if he was attracted to men it doesn't matter because Catholic priests are celibate, unlike protestant heretics.
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>>556520153
Oh so you admit that you're a ratfag
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>>556520115
Bend over and spread em cause shes going in raw
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I gave REM a pass when he came out but I'm interested in trying him out. Any recommended builds or general advice how to level his skills to start?
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>>556519835
There's like twenty people on the planet that know this is a thing and most of them don't go outside.
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>>556519713
>any spirit item

wrong
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>>556518958
bro did you spend the last 12 hours writing this or did you ctrl+f the last two threads for any mention of silver
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>>556519926
>wah I lose to graves like a pubshitter
lol
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>>556520243
Orthodox priests are not celibate either.
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>>556520243
It's also Catholic policy that being gay is fine, but sodomy isn't. Though that might be something post Vatican II and deadlock might be set prior.
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>>556520293
Full support or pillow Nuke, also make sure to steal all farms with your 3 since it benefits the entire team
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>>556519812
Yeah that's the problem
I actually like the character framed like that
I'm going to hate every interaction I have with other people while I'm playing her in the few seconds before they get muted forever
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>>556519835
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>>556519879
>>556519880
never seen an asian that tall, im 5'8 and i dwarf like 90% of the women in my city, asian ones are like 5'0 to 5'4 and very very rarely taller
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>>556520096
>>556520360
It's true. In two weeks when the meta is set you'll apologize.
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>>556520276
I have three pet rats and I think they're neat
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>>556519835
I hate that fags keep stealing colors. The fucking rainbow wasn't enough for them.
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>>556520417
it's not about being gay being fine, catholics take the doctrine of original sin seriously. meaning, they recognize that some people are born with the attraction and there's no way around it. their answer is to not commit sodomy the same way you aren't supposed to consume porn and masturbate.
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>>556519835
>made up larping garbage
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>>556505446
Just some old chinese bastard with a chinese kitchen knife, dirty tanktop and thick accent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptuhmNUuvrk
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>>556520360
you can just buy ballistic for range
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what's the most broken seven build? gun or ult or ball or mixed?
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Lash is armed and dangerous
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>>556519081
+citadel_unit_status_use_new true
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>>556517318
>>fae hero
I want them to be a lawyer. Conventional fae folklore has them as tricksters with nature motifs which Mireska covers, but another really common element is that they work off of a strict system of rules and etiquette which is what lets them fuck over unaware or impulsive humans. That's a literal perfect setup for a mob lawyer or Saul Goodman-esque sleazebag, because in this kind of setting there's literally no better fit for their mythological gimmick.
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>>556520663
Oh yeah. That's what I was trying to say. It's been a minute since I was in Catholic school. Or church. I'm probably going to hell.
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>>556519378
>game about occult and mystery
>something is a bit out of ordinary
>"waaaah, remove it! too weird! waaah!"
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>>556520317
>he never hung around alt kids who wear doc martens
that shit was common knowledge
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>>556520876
who the fuck would want to play as a lawyer though
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>>556520952
me
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IF A CHARACTER DOES NOT HAVE A CONFIRMED PARTNER THEY ARE BI BY DEFAULT
DYNAMO IS STRAIGHT (WIFE)
MINA IS STRAIGHT (WAS GOING TO MARRY POCKET)
GREY TALON IS STRAIGHT (HAS KIDS)
CALICO IS STRAIGHT (HAS KIDS)
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>>556520153
Mo and Krill would never allow rats to take over their tunnels.
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>>556519835
People really will just make up anything nowadays huh
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>>556521050
fair enough
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>>556521059
Vyper's sexuality is whatever gets her out of jail fastest in case she gets caught again
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Waiting for the show
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>>556520946
>he never hung around alt kids who wear doc martens
Yeah, true.
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>>556519926
>silver has the most skills and models in the game
>still half baked

kek, truly the girlfailure
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>>556521146
silver and vyper's weird co dependency is probably the best thing to come out of silver. I do agree they need to direct her VA to do more growly/go out of controlish type stuff in future voice lines
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Valve should add a tall blonde guy in a spiffy uniform that happens to be from Germany
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>>556521190
Did they remove these from the game? Is there even a tutorial anymore?
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>>556520940
anon, the fact of the matter remains that m&k are a carryover from neon prime
they are very likely to get a change at some point

and while we are on that subject, wtf is viscous supposed to be?
is it a robot covered in jelly?
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>>556521059
mina never loved pocket
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>>556521050
basedo
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>>556520876
>That's a literal perfect setup for a mob lawyer or Saul Goodman-esque sleazebag, because in this kind of setting there's literally no better fit for their mythological gimmick.
But how would that work in their gameplay? How do you put enemies into binding contracts that can fuck them up?
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>anime girl posters want little girl witch, or little girl fairy, or little girl rat kings or little girl little girls

hey...what's that about
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>>556519835
>combat boots
>doc martens
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>>556517972
Post the original image?
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>>556521284
They're still in the game. Yes.
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>>556515298
Redpill me on the bimbo unicorn. Why should I vote for she?
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>>556516993
>>556520534
Kill yourself GT you little boy rapist from /xivg/
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>>556521059
Why would Bi be the default

90+% of humans are straight, just logically you should assume anyone you meet is straight until proven otherwise
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>>556521409
NTA, but I'm sure there could be a "soul contract" hero that would "seal" a random ability for however amount of time. would probably get everyone crying quickly doe
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>>556521448
>fay, big hat witch and rat man
all those are great picks yes
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What do I do with my votes now that there's no one left to vote for?
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>>556521268
Doorman
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So if Seven isn't a Lich, what is he?
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>>556521680
apawlo
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>>556521448
i want a futa dommy mommy to skullfuck me but that's just my opinion...
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>>556518958
Where's the picrel
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>>556521526
Oh okay cool :)
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If you had the choice between Celeste and a Black guy to get added first who would you pick
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How do I play pocket? I die rarely because of the jacket and the suitcase but I'll go in, do my combo and ult, teleport out, and the enemy team will keep attacking like nothing happened and won't die
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>>556521765
minas tits arent this big
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>>556519378
look at the paintings in the hideout. there is one with a dude with giant wing hands flying over the city. it doesnt have to make sense
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>>556521754
some sort of reventant, probably
he is driven solely by his desire to become a god and his hate of kelvin
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>>556521832
Black guy, but only if he's based on John Henry.
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>>556521754
Revenant might fit
he's pretty close to what you would call a straight up lich though
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>>556521754
Gay
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>>556521448
i want a FAT rat with a tommy gun named "The Don"
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>>556521961
No phylactery though. Unless his skeleton is his phylactery.
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>>556521832
black guy easy, I'd trust Valve to make another Coach before adding another woman
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>>556519932
>>556520023
>>556520195
>>556520653
Their goal is to eventually "claim" so much stuff as trans/gay/whatever that it will no longer be possible for non-LGBT interpretations of media to exist. Just look at how quick they latched onto Silver. The future is a completely straight character being released and them being able to say "oh he's wearing a white t-shirt and blue jeans, oooohh you know what that meansssss" and pulling up an article about how those are secretly trans symbols of #resistance
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>>556522020
>rat hero
>"Say CHEESE!"
>lights you up with his tommy
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>>556521893
Love of Kelvin*
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>>556521838
I play him as an initiator
>jacket > tp > ult > ghosts > case + cold front/artic blast
Then I just hope the rest of my team finishes the job
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>>556521409
Called shots, restraining orders, exchanging HP percentages (Geist has this tbf), flipping someone's gun power and spirit power, jury gimmicks that scale based on the number of heroes present, wacking people with paperwork UMvC3 style, this >>556521614 which makes a certain ability into a bomb that punishes you for using it, literally everything Oracle can do
It's all about the spin
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I hate that Celeste might somehow end up my most played of this batch.
>>556520876
>>556520952
If youre not afraid of archetype overlap with Doorman, you could go very G-Man with it.
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>>556521961
If he was a legit lich wouldn't he have dialog with Graves about it?
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>>556521561
Nigga, who?
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>>556522146
I don't care about the ramblings of the mad and neither should you.
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>>556519835
>different coloured laces mean this because i said so
in what world?
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>>556521448
Little girls are cute, loveable, and sexy.
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>>556522146
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>>556521947
That would actually be sick as fuck
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>average miku hater
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Valve is rigging the next vote for Celeste so much its unreal
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>>556516546
...We couldn't reverse the spell, bohobros
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>>556522168
>gets out on critical health
>"And here I thought sellin insurance was a rat race!"
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i bet silver has a stinky pussy
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>>556521448
I want lanky creepy adult fairy though
If by little girl you mean Mireska then you've never played her, she's no more a loli than Vyper
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>>556522445
She looks unwashed.
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>>556522297
fuck I meant yamato, you know what I mean. the voiceline is pretty much in the dna now
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>>556522335
yeah by having the other option be fucking dogshit
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>>556520876
>>556522182
Banger concept. Will anyone workshop it further into a usable suggestion for the forum or should I do it myself?
It needs to be a female fae in a business suit.
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>>556522430
>>556522168
>>556522020
DIE YOU FURRY BASTARD
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What's a good hero for someone who used to play Medic in comp 6v6 TF2? I only play retarded clicker farmfest heroes so I don't know what to recommend.
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>>556522146
True but also >>556522238
Normal functioning members of society do not concern themselves with this crap
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after losing 3 games in a row incredibly bad im wondering what the fuck valve's plan for player retention is if this is making me want to permanently quit

why should I waste 30 minutes of my life on essentially a coinflip of if I have a fun time or not?
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I hate these faggots so much its unreal
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>>556520402
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https://youtu.be/TlUMmlvVTwI
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>>556522445
Graves is canonically a smelly femcel too. Staying up all night digging dead bodies and then going straight to school without a shower is gonna make anyone stink
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>>556522574
>filename
>>556522276
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>>556522467
mireska has a babysitter sent by her parents althoughbeit
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>>556522574
>the lighter palms
boner
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>>556522286
He's perfect for the pure melee, close range brawler. Plus he wouldn't even be out of place with the rest of the Americana folklore in the setting.
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>>556522574
Still waiting for a white Wraith mod.
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>>556522574
>filename
el mao
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>>556522335
doing my part

>>556522445
i NEED to clean silver's stinky pussy and ass
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>>556522603
>afrobull
Okay which one has the cock
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>>556522625
>american cannot tell the difference between spanish and another latin language
color me surprised
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>>556522574
THEN WHY DO YOU KEEP PAYING ATTENTION TO THEM
AND THEN TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT THEM
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How does Darcy feel after the MS/range change? I liked playing her tanky and already had issues getting in and not being outranged so I'm scared to pick her up again.
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>>556522601
your pic, soldier?
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>go on biggest loss streak ive ever hard
>literally had a day of 0 wins in normal and even brool
>fuck m1 heros im shiv player again
>win 2
>promoted back to oracle 2 on a loss
YOSHI PLEASE EXPLAIN MAN
>>556522574
I dont even hat troons or anything, but people on twitter like this are insufferable. If i had one wish it would be to save Tumblr so they never broke containment
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>>556522574
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>>556521961
>>556521893
i don't think he's a revenant, he was never actually killed during his execution
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>>556522574
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>>556522687
Beaten by a rat and goth girl btw
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>Romanian gypsy complaining about blacks on twitter
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>>556521297
He's a psychic sea anemone
He can mold protoplasm into shapes, like puddle punch (2)
He molded protoplasm around a metal skeleton to create a body with a gun and splatter (1)
He also built his body with an experimental stealth/offensive mode (4)
The cube (3) wasn't created by viscous, its just an innate property of protoplasm
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>>556522737
Because he is one. It's called ragebait and you're falling for it. Any amout of attention fuels their ego. Just ignore them and don't play into their delusions.
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>>556522737
NTA, but it's not really possible to pick and choose what you pay attention to. Imagine your neighbors blasting loud music 24/7, and when you ask them to stop, they just say "if you don't like it, then stop listening".
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>>556522860
Silver has the highest player peak
Venator 2nd
Graves 3rd
Rem 4th

Silver is the people's champion.
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>>556522860
i was refering to the fact that the initial discord poll was 100% accurate from day 1 and some retards itt said it wouldn't be
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>>556522574
Let me know when this mod releases
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>>556522953
normalfags dont play the game yet so its 99% of this stuff >>556522146 whenever you try and find patch and hotfix news
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>>556522562
Why do you not play supports in this game anon? Kelvin and Ivy are probably your speed if you enjoy Medic, but if you also enjoy M1 I think that Goo and Holiday might be more your speed. I'd say try Ivy if you like M1 heros as she is very flexible. Tether heals, you can buy rescue beam etc, but you can also go spirit for crazy Q dmg or gun cause tether also boost your RoF
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>>556522923
>Alt girl with piercings, earrings, and interested in necromancy and graverobbing
In uni I've known two girls that fit the Graves archetype(not physically though, one of them was fat as fuck and the other one was normal but obviously not a teen) and they were both massive BPD daddy issues type crazies

What I mean is if Graves had the opportunity she would fuck Venator and clench so hard it rips his dick off
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>>556522687
I think I'm glad that Silver released before Venator. It would be more disappointing if the better gun hero released first.
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>>556523069
sure buddy cope more
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>>556522574
>spicbabble filename
>twitter screencap
>political outrage bait
Could you be any more of a stereotype?
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>be ritualist 3
>win one game with my main that's a stomp (80k soul difference by the end)
>hero I played is suddenly "highest relative to skill rating"
>jump to emissary 5
what the fuck volvo
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>>556523146
Thanks for sharing with the class
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>unironic xitter screencaps
>trannies trannies troons trannies lgbt freaks niggers trannies jews
all /pol/niggers OUT OUT OUT
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i wonder if they are going to give her a scottish accent as a nod to scotslands national animal
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>>556522564
nta but
>Normal functioning members of society do not concern themselves with
..one of the most heated political topics in western countries today? yeah its a psyop but for normies, troons are on the level of taxes or being pro war/anti war when it comes to how they see politics
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>>556523069
Is the color purple in the room with us right now?
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>>556523146
Graves would get pregnant with his child.
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>>556517972
Are those people in room with us now?
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>>556522574
i will now vote celeste
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>>556523246
you will never be a woman, nigger
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>>556519607
You can get a little from damage taken by creep, just agro the wave. You don't want to reduce the dmg taken with monster rounds or barriers or resist, just get lifesteal and try to heal through it
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>>556522683
Paul bunyan would be s good fit as well
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should I just uninstall? i'm genuinely not having fun, even on the game I do well in I just lose because a sidelane decided to feed both of their laners 5 kills
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>mo and krill make no sense
>literally fantasy monsters who are mobsters in spooky new york
I swear i see a lot of people comment on the games style and I dont think they know anything. I saw someone say the new heros "dont look like they belong in the game" and i think that person is an actual mouth breather
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>>556523142
It's not for me, I hate healing or supporting, that's why I play dumbass clicker heroes. A friend is a former bigtime medic player, I sent him an invite, I wanted to have some idea of what heroes he should start with.
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>>556522953
Except these people are totally passive in person (except in large groups) and really only exist online. Just ignore them and they go away. These miserable fucks don't survive without the validation of internet strangers.
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>>556523350
She takes it raw and deep from homeless bums
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>>556522953
>it's not really possible to pick and choose what you pay attention to
If I went on /b/ right now and saw some ugly bitch's titties and then came back here to talk about how much I hate /b/ posters and ugly women, you would call me a dumb nigger for actively seeking out things to be angry about, and you would be right to do so.
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>>556519713
Correct
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>>556523420
homeless bums can't afford her. They only get to watch while I spend a months wage behind the sideshow
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The more and more I play Deadlock, the more I think it suffers from the raidboss problem that League has.
The tankier characters still have a lot of burst damage in their kits, and due to the abundance of items that offer you health/resists/lifesteals and damage at the same time, those characters never die while also easily dealing damage to kill people in 1v1s and 1v2s. You need at minimum three people just to kill them.
The issue isn't nearly as bad as in League because deadlock is so much better about not making kits obnoxious, but I still hate seeing this shit. There's zero fun or logic about a character whos nigh unkillable also having enough damage to easily kill people. Tank characters should always deal lower damage than non tank characters, in any context.
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>>556522445
>>556522603
>>556522479
>>556522704
I want to get fucked up drunk with Silver, start fooling around with her, sloppy makeout session and wandering hands, pouncing on me forcefully with mouth agape hungry for tongue filled kisses and swapping mouth flavors, pushing me on to my back with suppressed monstrous strength, then she unbuckles her jeans that hug her ass so tightly and shapely and drops them and her panties in one go and spins on her knees to kneel over me reverse cowgirl. I want her to plant her smelly hairy pussy on my mouth, kneel and plant, plant her sweaty dark rouge colored asshole ringed with the faintest silver hairs on my nose to tickle it and let me huff her sickly sweet feminine musk, and wiggle around for her own pleasure until her whole body shakes and she gushes down my throat and her juices run down my chin like I bit into an overripe fruit. While I do my best impression of her in wolf form drinking from a dog bowl, but with her overflowing grool dripping pussy ("schlorp schlorp schlorp"). I'm so hard thinking about it the tip of my cock is burning with hyper sensitivity and a desperate fiery need. If she actually did this she wouldn't even have to touch it, the moment I felt the proof of her arousal flood into my throat it'd spasm and throb enough on its own that my balls would go taut and I'd blast ropes up over and past my own chest hard enough to hit myself in the face; except I'd paint her tight washboard abs instead, because my face would be occupied.
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My favourite players are the ones who run in alone and die repeatedly :D
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>>556523397
krill is literally an alien monkey how does he fit with magic at all
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>>556523024
Her kit being shit is also the reason everyone left after her release
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>>556523530
so you want unkillable tanks who just wander around doing no damage or CC?
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>>556523382
no fun = uninstall or take a break
don't suffer
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do graves summons benefit from conditional, temporary spirit gains like from surge of power and diviner's kevlar for the duration of the skill??
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>>556517564
>Debuffs you with Hunter's Aura for the crime of being in the same zipcode
>Curses you from Florida

THEY DO LOTS OF THINGS!
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>>556521849
They will be after I knock her up.
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>>556523382
I'm shit in this game but I have fun, if you don't uninstall, simply at it is. You may comeback when chill out.
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>>556523401
>sevens eyes are actually covered by the metal hat thing
how the hell does he see?
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>>556523530
>Tank characters should always deal lower damage than non tank characters, in any context.
icefrog has a long affair with tanknigger carries with unreasonably high DPS
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Some of you retards are pathetic who cares if a character is gay or straight, straight characters will get a flood of gay porn and gay/lesbian characters straight porn anyway. If you let what random fags say really influence if you enjoy playing a character or the game then you need to go outside and stop being a retarded neet.
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What if Rem was a moody teen instead of a little baby man?
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>>556523558
I read this in Viscous' voice
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>>556523724
how do you have fun when you cant play the game due to the enemy heroes instantly blowing you up and diving you?
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BOY OH BOY I sure love twitter screenshot ragebait and reposting it!
Hey guys this sure made me mad, how about you guys?!
You vile dog and the retards replying to it must check-in to the Baroness Hotel.
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>>556521765
incredibly based, I want to be made a pleasure device for a futa's balls
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>>556521849
They're actually pretty big, it's just that interwar era US beauty standards preferred petite frames so she binds her chest (kids at school used to make fun of her and called her Korean Titcow behind her back which contributed to her ego problems)
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>>556515298
>highheeled platform boots
>fishnets
>tats and a leotard
>neck ribbon
They did it. They mad Sex 2
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>>556516264
>Vyper
im unironically a fag and i honestly thought that voice line was implying vyper also worked at pole palace and cinnamon was a coworker because working as a stripper for drug money sounds very vyper
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>>556523538
i hope you never stop writing these, that shit has me rolling
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>venator is 6'3"
sex
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WE
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YURI
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>>556523912
I'm 5'9 but I'm still going to top him
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>>556523830
seethe
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>>556523382
You're probably new and your list includes a majority of the hardest characters in the game, the only character there who's even remotely beginner friendly is Vindicta.
Stop trying to larp as someone who's better at the game than you are. Every match is a coinflip because you don't know the heroes you're playing and aren't sticking with any long enough to learn. Narrow it down to, like, four characters you like and either don't select any others or keep all four of those prio. You're fumbling around trying to learn your kit without having a basic understanding of the macrogame and itemization, of course you're going to struggle.
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what button did you rebind crouch/slide to? I swear mine is bugged and I doesnt proc the efficient jump off rail option unless its on my mouse wheel or something. very strange
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>>556523912
post geists
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>early 20th century Mystical Noir New York
>no "AAAAAAAAH I'M GOING INSAAAAAANE" Lovecraftian god/cultist hero
not counting Doorman, it would be fun to see him have conversations with another eldritch entity though
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>>556523912
that's 6'4 actually
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>>556523530
I don't like the idea of tanks in that sense. A hero that doesn't do enough damage to kill someone in reasonable amount of time when you play as them, but also takes a long time to kill when you play against them? Where is the fun in that? This is sort of my gripe with M&K, actually.
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>>556523382
Find 1 hero you enjoy or just think looks cool and play them exclusively for like 50 games or more until you master them.
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>>556523916
I'm really curious about the color of Celeste's equine member.
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>>556524026
They should rework warden into something cthulu themed and redo his lore cause rn its kinda shitty venator lore and wardens still clearly unfinished.
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>>556523579
I probably just misunderstood you anon. You mean that Mo&Krill will get a visual update to their models and not a rework of their design right? If so then yea i agree, i think theres like 8 design updates that are coming. He would get an update less intense than yamato, but i think Mo looks fine.
>>556523530
post rank anon, i genuinely think people dont know how to build and are all L>Riggers
>>556523401
oh, ok well then
>Kelvin/Ivy
Id consider them among the hard supports in the game. Ivy is very flexible in build while Kelvin has the potential to troll his entire team (or save it) with dome. Bad Kelvins suck, good kelvins are other worldly creatures who can swing games.
>Goo
idk if they nerfed him yet, but Goo currently does it all from gun/spirit/support you name it.
>Graves
Might be a good pick, has a auto aim gun so no real shooting, i think it has Razor passive but i havent player her at all. Also her ulti sets up crazy tempo for pushes and the team so shes probably the most similar to medi excluding healing. No aim + utility
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>>556523397
You can technically justify ANYTHING in a setting by saying "oh well it's supposed to be a fantasy setting dude" but Mo & Krill are pretty blatant leftovers from when Deadlock was intended to be a futuristic sci-fi shooter
>Krill
Weird alien monkey nigga
>McGinnis
Actual sci-fi turrets, missiles, her wall behaves like ferrofluid
>Viscous
Some kind of goo in a skinsuit, has an astronaut's bubble helmet
>Grey Talon
Cyborg arm, high-tech looking bow and quiver
>Yamato
Big head alien. Samurai gear but very obvious futuristic aesthetics
>Paradox
>Dynamo
Self explanatory

Some of them have been partially "fixed" enough that they don't clash with modern Deadlock aesthetics too much to the point of being jarring. Grey Talon's trap is a dreamcatcher, McGinnis' tech has been visually downteched so her turrets use protoplasm as a power source, etc. On the other hand Mo & Krill and Yamato are the two most egregious ones right now and are practically guaranteed a visual rework
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>>556522574
eh she actually looks kinda cute like this
but like....unicorns are usually white....
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>>556523916
who is the top??
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>>556524026
It might interest you to know that Mina is the only character in the entire game with a voiceline acknowledging the Drifter's true nature as some kind of elder god. She does it in a gloating way after getting a kill.
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Rem could probably solo the patreons if he wasn't sleepy
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Ven 4.8k spikes v1

I go spirit shielding over battle vest because he is pretty low hp and vest is more of a win more item. I like active reload a lot and could see it swapped with any of the oranges. Weakening headshot over +dmg to lean into the tankbuster, abilities wont hit as hard but they are long cd anyways +give util

He's an m1 hero after all
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>>556524013
do you have any recommendations? ive tried nearly every hero in the game and basically none of them make me go "yeah i could play this for a long time"
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>>556523530
tanks have to be threatening in some way though and with how easy CC is to come by in this game that can't really define them unless it's obnoxiously strong in their kits, if they did no damage there'd be no reason to not just ignore them in every fight and gun straight for carries with how mobile the cast is
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>>556523916
>Silver covered in bruises
Damn... what did Celeste do to her
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>>556524090
even better
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>>556522574
>Latrino filename
I'm calling ICE
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>>556524002
You couldn't top your soda cup faggot
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>>556524174
>>Yamato
>Big head alien
thats just how she looks and its rude to make fun of her for it
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>>556524013
Vin is not beginner friendly, when I tried her for the first time during the Christmas challenge I fed for like 5 matches until I got a win. If there's any hero who takes absolutely no skill to play it's probably Billy
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>>556524304
It's true, but you shouldn't say it.
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>>556520238
FURRIES you are going to the MOON
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>>556524114
i wish geist would sit on my face and fart...
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>>556524115
I still can't believe he shared FNAF futa porn on 4chan. If he wasn't a Zionist pedophile human trafficker, I would have thought he was cool.
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>>556523647
CC yes, utility yes, and of course I don't expect them to deal zero damage, but they should never be able to get as much damage out of their kits as pick/dps characters. Abrams has enough damage to safely 1v2 most of the cast in the midgame and later, Viktor's the same, etc.
Tanks have a lot of benefits over non tank characters. They can't get randomly picked off, they can drag out fights, they can provide massive utility and CC. Having all of those plus the same relaiable bursting as damage characters, makes you wonder why you should even play non-tank characters.
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>>556522574
>Xitter-obsessed /v/ ragebaiter is a favela chimp
Wow who could have guessed
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>>556524113
your hunter's aura, silence (spirit resist shredder), hollow point, crippling headshot, spirit rend, or backstabber doebeit? even disarm gives bresist shred
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>>556524395
>favela chimp
even worse, he's a gypsy
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>>556524187
>is named Shadowfacts
>is fucking white
>never once speaks a single fact, shadowy or otherwise
Who writes this fucking horseshit
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>>556524320
I had to go gun build as vinny when I did the ornaments because I genuinely can't fucking land the snipe shots, my contribution to my game was getting the most assists and objective damage, at least
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>>556524349
Unfortunately I dont have it in me to lie to you like your split dick allies
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imagine playing an easy character whom you probably dont like just because you want to win, god how pathetic you are.
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>>556517128
she has a cute bob and i like her color scheme
that and i love glass cannons
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first game as silver and I got called nigger dog by a billy, feels good
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>>556524026
There's an octopus guy in the Archmother's base. Tentacle hero is inevitable.
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>be Shiv
>good early game
>good mid game
>good late game
>good hair
so, is there any moment in a match where Shiv is not going to shit on anyone trying to stop him?
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>>556523916
Hell no. I watched Arcane this week and I have lesbian fatigue.

>>556524408
>backstabber
Worthless meme item.
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>>556524389
and the trade off is that they have mediocre laning phases, rely on positioning, or in victor's case, rely on having a competent team to stall so he can farm safely
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>>556524113
M&K have good burst though? 2&1& and a cold blast is great damage.
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>>556524509
i main mina btw if that matters
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So will Deadlock finally kill TF2 for good? Or will the godfather of the entire hero shooter genre outlive another attempt at capturing lightning in a bottle?
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>>556522603
stop posting sexual graves content weirdo
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what are some cool hero ideas you have?

>time traveling wizard dude from the 80s/90s
>has the standard wizard stuff, a wand, a cone hat, a robe
>but also has some stuff on him related to that time like a portable cassette player, a skate board, a yoyo
>talks in stereotypical slang associated with the 80s
>one of his abilities lets him stop the match for a few seconds, as if though it were paused, but he can still move. It unpauses as soon as he shoots his gun
>his ult lets him rewind the whole match a few seconds into the past from the moment he started to channel it, but he remains unaffected by the change

>eastern european not!rasputin/orthodox monk
>is a tanky support who is hard to kill, but doesnt do much damage himself

>scandinavian dwarf migrant who brews ale in secret
>can lay down runes who can buff allies, debuff enemies, or just explode
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>>556524513
>first games as Graves and I get a friend request asking for ageplay ERP
straight up diddy bluds in this game
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>>556524509
>playing an easy character whom you probably dont like just because you want to win
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>>556524515
on top of a skull too
maybe mind control/hallucinations/illusions kinda hero
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>>556524558
>worthless meme item

hero dependent
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>>556524174
I addressed this in my post but ill just address the rest too, but you are correct and a majority of these characters excluding McGinnis/Dynamo will all be getting pass overs on their skins. Youre right Yamato/GT/Krill are all leftovers to a degree. Viscous is literally using Kelvins model with a helmet, these arent finished models. There are 8 remodels+model pass overs (like what Abrams/Lash/Dynamo all got). I think McGinnis turrets and Dynamos body look fine. Same with paradox being a stylized thief. The "cyborg" arm thing also is a recurring theme, except they use wooden prosthetics. I think all Baxter Society members have one (Shiv/GT/Calico). I'm not dismissing your argument though, i do think some stuff like McGinnis wall doesnt look great for a spirit wall.
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>>556524389
I think they should definetly change the green items that give damage bonuses and nerf the lifesteal ones, they're just awful on Abrams. As you mentioned, League ended up suffering immensely from this issue and it still does. There's zero downsides to running a fullteam of tanks in League on every role except ADC, I'd hate to see Deadlock become that.
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>>556524631
You know she'd have way more than one
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>>556524026
>no "AAAAAAAAH I'M GOING INSAAAAAANE" Lovecraftian god/cultist hero
so an Abdul Alhazred?
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>>556524254
Seven, Warden, Paige. M&K and Dynamo too but only once you have some map awareness. Wraith and Infernus are more aim-intensive but mechanically simple.

>>556524320
Compared to fucking Holliday she is
Billy also has to worry about Blasted which gives him some depth

>>556524509
People who don't like a character because they're easy are not good at the game
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>>556524627
This is just generic fantasy stuff
I would prefer things that fit the NYC noir vibes more
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>>556524627
>what are some cool hero ideas you have?
Rush Hour Chris Rock City Cop
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>>556524515
Mindflayer hero would be neat
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>>556524227
But drifter isn't an elder god or anything, he's just a really old psychotic vampire.
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The buff Rem needs
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>>556523825
I lose and try another match, sometimes we have comebacks sometimes we are getting raped. It happens, still better than being annoyed by old fucks in work. It matters sometimes to get a kill or two and not win in game but extra dopamine from getting all those numbers flying is great.

And probably most part is that this game is an eye candy for me, never played moba and I'm convincing myself that I won't ever be good in it, I care more about my RTS and FPS games when it comes to being competitive here I don't even know where I can find ranks.

Last and most important thing, If you see somebody dieharding or flaming because you are "much bad", piss him off, I'm taking my energy from there, some cunt recently was mad at me, I asked him "should I uninstall then?" He screamed in chat that yes so I left the game, He probably won't do that anymore
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>>556524631
Now all the game needs is either an explicitly African American male character, or a black-coded monster like Venom, for the BLACKED porn to start flooding in ~
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>>556523751
>Steel wins battles, gold wins wars
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>>556524631
this is the most lazy qos edit I've seen in my life
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>>556524759
I said Drifter, I meant to say Doorman. She refers to Doorman as an elder god.
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I jumped from low Seeker to high Arcanist in like 2 games, what even is this
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>>556524174
Dynamo's fit is period appropriate down to the vacuum tubes, and the metal parts of him are lightly art deco. He might get a texture update but he's nowhere near incongruous.
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I LOVE PLAYING GEIST

I LOVE BEING A MOBILE ARTILLERY PIECE

I LOVE PUTTING DOWN SO MUCH AIDS ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO PUSH OUR WALKER AND WE EVENTUALLY MAKE A COMEBACK AFTER THEY GET ANNOYED AND DIVE
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Venator would be better if he was an imam.
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>>556524872
They've been doing a ton of rank resets this month
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>>556524254
>Kelvin: build mystic slow + suppressor, max beam. win every teamfight (you also have healing)
>Dynamo: nuke them with stomp and gun them down while they can't move (you also have healing and can play around ult if doing bad)
>Mcginnis: stand in healing circle and gun them down
>Drifter: max firerate, flank, and enemy squishies will die
>Billy: run at them and they will die
>Victor: run at them and they will die (at 30 minutes)
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>>556522574
First time with xitter user Loudwindow? The fag is a white decpite larping as a blackie and constantly raceswaps characters for le xitter likes.
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>>556524631
Damn Celeste is a Balatro fan?
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>>556524828
Fashion some glasses out of wire and coke bottles, Rajesh. Infernus is already black.
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>>556524564
they don't really rely on positioning, given that their sustain allows them to make more positioning mistakes than other heroes, and laning phase doesn't matter that much if your hero is designed to not need to get fed to be effective, as long as you just don't die during laning phase you're ahead of the other guy, you don't even have to tryhard on souls.
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>>556524174
>oh well it's supposed to be a fantasy setting dude
>futuristic sci-fi shooter

Can't it be both at once tho?
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>>556524708
abrams is a drain tank, that's his archetype

>there's zero downsides to running a full team of tanks in league

hypercarries explode in deadlock do you even play this game?
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>>556525028
Infernus is Ixian, not black
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Ever since the venator ult bug fix I've yet to get in a game with a good one.
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>>556524627
>Alchemist who spent his life trying to make the philosopher's stone, but never succeeded
>Mixes abilities for different effects, sort of like Dota 2's Invoker
>His gun is called Magnum Opus
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>>556524731
Yeah but Holliday is literally unfinished and may as well be from Neon Prime
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>>556525109
Das rite. One drop rule demon blood
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>>556525121
They are still going for ult builds(its bad)
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>>556525028
I'm a white transgirl, though.
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>>556525049
I sentence you to 1000 games with abrams in high elo to see how great of a laner he is
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>>556524734
not EVERYTHING has to be unique and original
venator is pretty much as cliche as they come, a warrior priest with guns, but people love him
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got mvp with gun talon :D
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I haven't played much Venator to check his voice lines, but he's undoubtedly Irish, right?
Does he say anything about the British? This era is the apex of the British Empire and Deadlock worldbuilding is ostensibly about great power colonialism, does he say anything about how DEYZ NOT FREEEE IN EIRE?
Weird how the only drops of lore for foreign powers we know is Japan and Russia
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>>556524808
>people drawing Seven with eyes
He's not wearing a hat, it's a helmet that covered his eyes that was meant to send 6000 volts directly into his skull and kill him
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>>556524026
They should add a hero that's just a group of masked cultists.
They should have an ability that essentially heals you to full - but can't be activated if you are watched. It works by new cultist appearing from a shadow cabinet and old, injured one returning there.
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i still havent seen a mirage or sinclair 50 hours in
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did they just fuck with the ranks again?
i just went from archon 3 to orcale 2 on a loss
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>>556525306
I too also wish that the worldbuilding was more elaborated on, but he's probably Irish American
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Niggers going full on ult build on venator when you should be grabbing crushing fist to get a quick rape mid team fight
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>>556525358
CRUDUX CRUO
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>>556525256
It doesnt need to be unique or original but it should fit the setting
"Exorcist with guns hunting demons" is a very common archetype in urban fantasy settings
"Ale-chugging dwarven runemaster" sounds like a DOTA character not a Deadlock one
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if the patrons could grant YOUR wish what'd it be for? Pic rel
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>>556523530
You stupid fucking retard. You absolute ant. Do you know WHY tanks deal damage? Because if they couldn't kill people, your only incentive to shoot them would be if they can CC you forever for theor team if you don't. Which NOBODY wants. If Abrams can only do a thirs of your health with his entire kit why would you EVER not just ignore him and kill the Infernus behind him instead? And if that starts happening, why would he ever build tank and not just build damage items so he can kill you for free?

Tanks are balanced to be able to kill you if you just ignore them or they're allowed to stand on top of you for 15+ seconds because otherwise they're fucking useless. Why do you think they all have short-ranged abilities and low capacity shotguns?

You are a STUPID nigger and I am GLAD that Valve does not listen to your ilk. If they did Abrams would have a 50% slow on his AoE by default, and his wallslam would stun for 3 seconds or some shit.
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>>556525536
remove the USA
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>>556525416
You made me check. What the actual fuck. I was struggling to stay out of Initiate mere months ago.
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>>556525505
fair
still, a time traveling wizard would fit, right?
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Celeste reminds me of anisa johma
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>all the problems of a hero shooter
>but this time with all the bullshit of a moba
I don't really get it
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>>556525440
>but he's probably Irish American
Did the Vatican send him down one train ride from fucking Boston
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>>556525536
world peace
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>>556525482
He's too squishy for melee commitment
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>>556524174
Mo and Krill really aren't egregious at all. Mo is a moleman and Krill is an underdweller. Mo is totally reasonable. Krill does look odd, but not egregious. He needs very minimal changes.
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>game crashes mid-match, a pop-up window appears that a file has not been found
>try to re-launch, stuck at 0% downloading some file
>try to verify integrity of game files, stuck at 0%
>restart steam, problems persist

motherfuckers just made me ban myself for an hour didn't they? fix your fucking game yoshi, fix your fucking servers steam
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>>556525623
I don't know who that is, but based on that image, I'm sorry that you are aware of her.
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>awoooo
>"sleep!"
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Anyone got the image of venator ripping drifters head in two as a basedjak?
Need it for a clip video
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>>556525623
LITERALLY FUCKING WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>556523912
>same height as venator
>but he has like 2x my muscle mass
i wish i was a high test catholic irish man...
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>>556525536
More wishes
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>>556524627
>time and dimension travelling wizard with out of timelie artifacts, but who's also a quirk chungus and lolxrandom and talks in extremely dated slang
you just described Aghanim and I don't like it because that's an actual possibility
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>>556524596
Baldur's Gate 3 already killed TF2
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>Play Silver for the first time (Didn't want to compete with people day 1 on her release)
>Literally impossible to trigger werewolf in lane, the few times I managed to do it in a teamfight was when I was like 300 health
I'm guessing they took her out back and butchered her?
NGL balancing everything for a few select pro fags is so lame.
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>>556524371
I'm sorry, anon, but only the OP of that thread was FNAF porn. The image he actually linked was a Mercy SFM webm.
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>>556524479
I don't associate with trannies, they make me sick, never insult me like that ever again holy shit.
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>>556525416
>>556523208
Damn I thought the game finally recognized my talents
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>>556525562
so your argument is that tanks should be raid bosses because that's the way it should be?
Silver after her changes needs to go right up in front of an enemy, hit her entire rotation like twice and throw some melees in while spamming the fuck out of her useless shotgun. If she tries to do that against Abrams she gets instantly killed by him, even if her that's what her kit expects you to do to reach wolf form.
So?
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>>556525861
try aimlabs
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>>556525358
>Meepo except this time it's a bunch of cultists connected to an elder god hivemind
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>>556525818
drifter would wish for the home addresses of enemy team's friends and family
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>>556525536
HAPPINESS, FREE, FOR EVERYONE, AND LET NO ONE BE FORGOTTEN
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>>556525536
I'd wish for them to totally eradicate their own existence forever
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>>556525358
>every time you die you come back with a model that's different in height and build
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>>556525536
To heal people from the things they never talk about.
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>>556524113
I think most M&Ks don't build for damage because it's rarely the case that they need to a lot of damage to win and good players know to just stay a million miles from them, but you can absolutely run over people by yourself if you get a good start as them.
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>>556525614
This is why you shouldn't worry about your rank if you're shitlow, just perform well and a rank reset will bump you up to a rank that has people above 70iq in it
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>>556525416
i went from emissary to alchemist in 5 games despite winning 3 of them
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>>556525562
nta and I don't think tanks are that much of a problem but ur retarded
you couldn't ignore a tank even if they did 0 damage to get to the carry, tanks can easily keep you busy with their kits and carries in this game are hypermobile enough to easily escape.
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>>556525902
ah so you were just a silver whiner
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>>556524627
literal reddit tier shit, never post again and kill yourself
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>>556525536
Freude, schöner Götterfunken
Tochter aus Elysium
Wir betreten feuertrunken
Himmlische, dein Heiligtum!
Deine Zauber binden wieder
Was die Mode streng geteilt
Alle Menschen werden BrĂ¼der
Wo dein sanfter FlĂ¼gel weilt
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What's with matchmaking now? I've been bouncing between Oracle 5 and 4 for a couple of days, even dropped to 3 at some point and now all of a sudden I win one match and I get Phantom? Not like rank really matters that much but I've never skipped a single rank since and now this.
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>>556525982
Wrong general /sg/ is down the hall
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>>556525959
>Drifter kills the enemy team and completes the ritual
>"What is your wish, Drifter?"
>"Let's do that again"
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>>556525828
hey, look on the bright side, at least hes not speaking in zoomer lingo
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The original animation for Yamato's ult was commiting seppuku
I think that's cool and they should bring it back
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>>556525536
Loli Mina wife
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Tanks should have points to stand on and big shields to protect with
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>>556526126
I just jumped from mid ritualist to high emissary, massive influx of new players maybe?
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>>556526131
nta, whats /sg/?
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>>556524708
>There's zero downside to playing a team of tanks

It's called not being fucking retarded during draft and picking rapists that 1v5 teams that don't have burst or range. A team of tanks is just free wins for Kayle, Kog, Brand, etc. But you're a dogshit player so I don't expect you to understand that you can't just pick Yasuo every single game and expect to be able to win.
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>>556526126
It's all based on PERCENTAGES you low iq MORONS

when a shitload of low elo new players join, you are now in a higher percentage
you are still playing against the same players, you are just now a higher percentile
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>>556525861
It do be like that. Im going to try rushing 4.8k weapon spike in lane and see if that's any better. I feel like if you try to go green too early you aren't allowed to awooo.
Im thinking t1 weapon into slowing bullets into a t3 upgrade. But im torn between
close quarters > point blank
Headshot booster > Headhunter
High velocity > Express shot
Need to test later.
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>>556525536
chuck's fuck and suck
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>>556525306
>Irish
It does make sense right?
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>>556525306
I would use my patron wish to have Archmommy become my sex slave.
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>>556526295
stalker general, anon was referencing the ending line of Roadside Picnic
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Why does shiv look like a monkey
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this game has some nice fanart to it that i haven't seen in a while
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>>556526314
Almost every jauggernaut in League can get to Kayle and rape her to death lmfao. Ranged DPSs in League have been dead since like, 2017
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>>556526113
>instead of coming up with something better, he just complains
i mean, fair, they are bad, but id like to see you actually add to the discussion rather than just complain like a contrarian
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>>556526163
>The world is stuck in a deadlock because Drifter canonically keeps winning and wanting to go again
>All matches are canon
At last I truly see.
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>>556526497
>>556526314
this is dotard territory, riot sissies
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>>556525623
>anisa johma
Burgers thinking that everyone knows their little stars
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>>556525306
>apex of the British Empire
Aren't they starting to fall off by now
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>>556516026
Same, anybody who doesn't like his characterization is just exposing themselves as a larper who doesn't know a lick about Catholic theology
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>>556526556
>>All matches are canon
what about the ones without drifter in them?
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who the fuck is the troubadour though
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>>556525536
i would ask for a fuckload of money and then i would pay to become a vampire like mina
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>>556526327
Headhunter is the best out of those but I still think you go green 4.8k first. Its flat hp vs % weapon so you will trade much more efficiently
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>>556526665
I meant with Drifter but I posted too fast and immediately realized I didn't clarify...
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>>556525306
It's past the peak of the British Empire historically, it might be different in the Deadlock universe but who could say unless we get an actual Celtic druid character or something
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>>556525828
>>556526183
Aghanims labyrinthian was so fun I didn't mind the constant cringe coming from him. I wish Valve kept doing fun event modes like that, and kept them in the game officially
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>>556526638
Yes, but ti was also WW2 that really saw the end of it. Im not 100% sure but I think part of the Lend-Lease Act required the brits to grant independence to their colonies after the war.
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>>556526638
The British Empire fell because 2 consecutive world wars bankrupted them (contrary to popular belief, colonialism was a net loss financially), killed millions of white Britons, only for them to emerge into a world where both of the new superpowers (USA and USSR) were anticolonialist. But it's heavily implied that neither of the world wars happened in the Deadlock timeline, hell they probably have a tighter grip on their colonies due to magitech weapons and surveillance systems
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>>556516838
I mean, what the hell did Shiv do that you didn't to get MVP?
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>>556526691
me :)
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>>556525861
I'm a new shitter and my best games by far have been on her
Close range weapon damage, melee lifesteal, that -spirit damage at low HP thing in most games
You kinda need to find an angle to flank to get your ult off, but once you're in it you're fucking unkillable
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VENATOR DOES ZERO DAMAGE WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS CHARACTER
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>>556527019
learn to aim
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>>556526571
Dota has also been plagued by tanknigger phys cores since forever, what ranged carries are viable?
>Terrorblade is in a perpetual samsara
>Gyrocopter because of kill lanes
>Medusa, when she's sufficiently tanky in a patch
if you want a quick look on the absolute fucking state of ranged cores look at Drow's shard
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>>556524026
read more viscous lore
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How do you even build for Venator anyways? What's his purpose?
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>>556525902
MY ARGUMENT is that WHY would Abrams EVER be played if he can literally stand on top of a 0 green investment Haze for 15 seconds at equal souls and STILL lose, you STUPID fucking nigger? Why would he EVER be picked or played like a tank when you could just pick another hypercarry and shoot the Haze to death in 2 seconds? Why would you not just build full damage on him and oneshot people?

You are FUCKING DUMB.

>>556526076
The POINT is that TANKS WITH LOW DAMAGE HAVE TO HAVE OTHER THINGS TO COMPENSATE. If you LOWER TANK DAMAGE, then you have to make them EVEN TANKIER, MORE mobile, or have even MORE CC. And ALL of those things FUCKING SUCK. Do YOU want to live in a world where Abrams is legitimately unkillable and stuns you for 4+ seconds?
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>>556525416
seems like they did, i was ass 2 like 2 days ago
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>>556525536
My wish?
I'd wish for this >>556523538
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>>556526638
The things that happened that caused the British empire to decline didn’t happen in this universe (no world wars no debts) and logically all the artefact stealing Britain committed would grant real power in this universe

Logically, the British empire/royal family would have the largest horde of magical objects
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>>556527117
hes an M1 carry with a massive dmg execute
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Eventually if I keep playing I'll hit Eternus without having to go on a 20 win streak
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>>556527019
your +20% damage traps, free healing reduction, and wall stun bro?
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>>556527117
Build gun, gun, and more gun
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>>556527206
How do I carry with him? Feel kind of impotent next to other carries
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>>556527194
>>556526972
Sirs, lord VISHNU and champion HANUMAN are returned to Earth and make Bharat magic guru superpower.
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How do you even build for Haze anyways? What's her purpose?
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>>556527194
Immortal robo queen Victoria
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>>556527241
I'm gonna fucking kill you you birdbrained nigger
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How would (You) fix Silver?
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>>556527358
If they retcon immortal revenant Tsarina Catherine I'll be pissed
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why does my token get used even when the match gets canceled FUCK this game
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>>556527443
Pavlovian training, only reward her with booze and sex when she deserves it
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>>556527349
>How do you even build for Haze anyways?
Gun with lifesteal
>What's her purpose?
Being a Valve black woman of unoriginality (also being a late game hypercarry)
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They did another rank adjustment, meaning I'm Oracle 2 now
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>>556527349
>What's her purpose?
gap moe
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>>556525416
>>556525614
>>556526075
>>556527136
>archon is now the new baseline
>phantom is now officially shitlow
>every rank below oracle will now need to be tard wrangled in order to win

gg go next
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They should add a hero who's a rapper
It would be so awful and so funny
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>play haze
>my aim might suck but at least I can press 4 and everything dies
>play seven
>my aim might suck but at least I can press 4 and everything dies
>play venator
>my aim might suck but at least---oh wait
no wave clear and weird gimmicky traps that do not fit in with the rest of his kit make him a character that i'll basically never be able to fully utilize
lame
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>>556527068
This is just the reality of Dota's stat system being fucking terrible and Icefraud being unwilling to take Strengthies out back and shoot them.

>Agi primary bonus is fucking dogshit
>Int has to be artificially gutted to keep casters and supports from overshadowing int carries
>Meanwhile strengthoids get damage AND health AND status resistance AND tons of cheap and incredibly effective items for the AWFUL downside of being melee (their stats are compensated and ranged heroes have turnrates, and all of the good farming items only really work on melee heroes anyway)

That's not even to start on blink dagger being the most poorly-designed item in the game.
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>>556525497
MODERN ARTS AND FEAR BOOKS
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>>556527660
archon was always the baseline
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>enemy fed haze tries pushing our base guardians solo
>me and another guy show up and scare her off
>she starts farming the red aliens next to our base for some reason?
>i ping her and 3 other people show up and we rape her
>to top it off she panic ulted at the end and killed nobody
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>>556527443
Transformation is not automatic and has a longer cooldown. Ranged form is stronger. That's really all she needs.
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>>556526638
>>556526951
>>556527194
>>556526972
The two world wars didn't happen in this universe. The American Revolution happened but it failed because Ben Franklin betrayed George Washington, so Britain kept a stranglehold on the American colonies for a time. Later Napoleon came along and functionally drove the British out of Europe. The royal family and everybody fled to the American colonies and that became their new capital and seat of the crown and it developed into a different kind of America from what we know, but with similarities. As a result Europe became a European Empir in its own right, while the British now seated in America gobbled up whatever they could as well. They also have occupied Japan for its resources and designate countries they occupy with Area [number] instead of allowing them to keep their identities. Russia and China are still sovereign nations.
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>>556527859
>Transformation is not automatic
soulless
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>>556526986
i have no clue how the mvp key player systems work sometimes but it's a team game anyway
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Graves is such dogshit design.
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>>556526226
Yes and the shields should have their own separate HP bars (which recharge after not being in use)
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>>556527960
it randomly gives it to whoever has the most of something
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>>556527960
Why do people insist on player Wraith who is only good in 1v1 perma farm scenarios?
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I'd just like to remind everybody that arguing about the deep lore of a game that isn't even out yet is retarded cause literally none of it is set in anywhere near stone
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>>556527724
>That's not even to start on blink dagger being the most poorly-designed item in the game.
Can you elaborate on that?
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>>556527882
Okay WHERE do you fucking cunts get this info from?
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>>556527194
God the deadlock world map must look fucking wack.
>tsarist russia
>ottoman empire
>british global empire
>imperial japan
>probably prussia too with the kaiser still a thing
Russia probably still owns Alaska too.
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>>556527882
YES MY LORDO
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>>556528029
I think it prioritizes early game performance over late game carries
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>>556527882
This is starting to sound like Pax Brittanica but we got occult magic instead of Tesla -spawned steampunk
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>>556527882
Based geassGOD in 2026
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>>556527775
I wish I could rape Haze until she gave in to the sensations and couldn't suppress how much she liked it, moaning for me in her harsh modulated sandman voice, and make her cum so hard while sucking and licking her shadowey smoky toes that she pisses all over my chest.
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>>556527767
if by baseline you mean players knowing what they're doing and not not shitting themselves post early-game, then sure. This is now a feat reserved for high oracles and above

I meant baseline as in 50% of players are as good as you. Not sure if statlocker is the best source for this but since they bumped the ranks last month, the (my interpretation of) baseline was emissary.
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>>556528029
I got key player in a match where all I got was 3rd highest player damage, but I think it just gave it to me because 3rd highest in the match was still highest on my team
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>>556528051
I will miss the 1920's/30's vibe since I'm a big fan of that era's music and culture, but it seems they're directing the lore more towards "magic fucking appeared and technology/culture accelerated insanely quick" kind of atmosphere, which is fine. Not great, but fine.
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>>556528091
he made it up dude

the deadlock timeline and the irl timeline match exactly until the first maelstrom in 1899 fucks everything up
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>>556528178
idk i got even as paige and i had just assists the most, someone else in team had more healing.
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>>556527882
>>556528184
Oh my god I didn't even realize

>>556528225
Why is phantom actually the "ghost rank" with so much less people than the one after it
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>>556528106
>ottoman empire
Depending on the timeline, the Balkan Wars could have happened so the Sublime Porte would be in a terrible shape.
And if Catherine rules Russia she may have brought back her plan to dismantle the Ottomans and refound East Rome
>>556528091
It's Code Geass lmao
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>>556528086
>"The weakness of this character is that they have to reach you to use their abilities, granting ranged characters a means to play around them!"
>Add item that just removes this weakness and allows them to teleport on top of your head from off your screen on a nonexistent cooldown
>"Oh well if they take damage from an enemy hero it disables!"
>Make the lockout such that multiple hero abilities and items can just stall until the lockout is over, guaranteeing a free escape unless you ALSO silence them
>Which they can prevent with ANOTHER item that makes them immune to CC

For as retarded as Riot is at least their equivalent is much shorter ranged and has a five minute cooldown. Blink dagger existing means Enigma and Earthshaker must be eternally kept cucked.
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This game has some of the worst SBMM I seen in years
Might as well flip a fucking coin if it's gonna be a stiomp or an actual good game.
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Who are the best rat heroes? I wanna do some split pushing from time to time.
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>>556527960
I think it prioritizes ult usage.
>dynamo does no damage, healing or damage
>but all three rounds he hit a 3man ult and got the MVP
Same thing happened probably with the shiv in your game and I had the same thing happen when I was a shiv as well.
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inhouse code DGY19
democraps vs. repooplicans
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>Apparently next big update is to finish the map, jungle camps and tower remodels
So how long til this game comes out?
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>>556528382
Bar height is not how many people are this rank, but how many matches are in this rank

Still I don't really know how to answer you on this, I think that phantom players are less likely to grind highier than ascendants? There's like a 'I can't do this anymore' dip in phantom 4/5.

Also like I said, not sure if statlocker is the most reliable at collecting that data.
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>>556527474
My idea is that Britain sucked up so much magic stuff from their imperialism that the small nation’s class system became magically segregated. Where having magic is status. The nobility are basically overdosing on voodoo and blessed gems. And the royal family are all basically mutated 8ft tall demigods and Queen Victoria is immortal, 12 feet tall, and made of solid gold. If crystal magic exists in deadlock, the royal crown from the gems it has in our world could probably mind control a whole nation

Parliament has also been abolished
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>>556528591
q1 2027 :)
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>>556528591
Depends entirely on how much Valve actually wants the game to release
If they're comfortable sitting on their hands for a while longer, enjoy your 2028 release
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>>556528547
My Liberal Yamato Gameplay is coming in hot...
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>did the training
>did one round of brawl
Game's fun, any tips for a beginner? I used to mainly play Engie, Medic and Heavy in TF2 and then their "successors" in Paladins and Overwatch, plus some new archetypes in those games.
>luv healing
>luv building nests
>luv automatic guns that go brrrrrrrrrrr and shotguns
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>>556528526
Rem, Graves (kinda, lacks mobility herself but you can just drop ult and dip early if you think you're pushing your luck), wraith, ivy, haze.
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>>556528382
>Why is phantom actually the "ghost rank" with so much less people than the one after it
Phantom ranks are being artificially suppressed by the federal reserve.
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>>556528693
>And the royal family are all basically mutated 8ft tall demigods and Queen Victoria is immortal, 12 feet tall, and made of solid gold.
kino
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>>556528782
mcginnis
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>>556528693
You just KNOW the old blood are doping up on magic drugs and ritual youth sacrifices and shit. But I say do Britain on full Study In Emerald. It's been co-opted by eldritch gods. The royals are squidfaced.
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Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong with Silver?
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The hidden king is so much better looking esthetically than the archmother its not even close
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>>556529023
shes not finished
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>lose a bunch of games in a row
>rank goes up
huuhh????
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>>556528782
McGinnis, though her turrets are kind of anemic annoyances until late game, rather than a full Sentry nest tier. And they're temporary. She has a strong heal as well. Graves also does nests but they're mob spawners rather than turrets. Generally "static" options are few and far between for now, hopefully we get more.
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>>556528782
McGinnis. She has literal turrets and an AoE heal and multiple completely viable ways to build her.
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>>556528782
since you are obviously going to play mcginnis, know that usually her wall and heal are her best abilities. Turrets only do damage if your build is focused around them, and her ult is the worst ult in the game

in the moba mode, killing troopers > sinner sacrifice > neutral monster camps
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>>556523530
Almost like tanksloppas are a dead archetype that should've been abandoned long ago.
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>>556529148
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>>556523801
I wish Rem was an old gentleman, think of Christopher Lee.
The theme of his character would be sleep and bedtime stories, so his voice would fit part of a bed time story narrator.
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>>556529023
>What went wrong with silver
It feels like she got rushed out and nobody bothered to play or adjust her numbers before we got her.
The signs:
>The human form was horrifically fucking awkward and you transformed constantly out of it.
>The wolf form was a behemoth wall of numbers too early.
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>>556528519
It's a fucking closed invite only alpha with placeholder models.

It may literally never get better, I'm not even saying it will, but keep that in mind. You are a PLAYTESTER no matter how much e-celeb faggots push it as a fully realized competitive game and literally create their own fake pro league with fake accolades because their careers depend on it (90% of the major Deadlock centric e-celebs and "pros" and content creators will be replaced absolute nobodies struggling to get by a year or two after it launches officially btw).

>>556528782
literally 110% mcginnis
mcginnis until the end of time
mcginnis forever for you
also know as MIKU GUINNESS
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>>556528782
McGinnis has
>mini turrets
>large AoE heal 2
>the only minigun in the game
Worth keeping in mind healing/support is as much about the actives you buy as it is having baked in support abilities.
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>>556529371
no..
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>>556529371
its funny because they can nerf grave's gun as much as possible but the problem is her ult is fucking stupid
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>>556529324
Can't remember if it was a scrapped leak or just some anon wish but I remember someone talking about him being the head of the Sandman department, that was cool.
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So now that the honey moon phase is over, can we agree venator has one of the clunkiest and shittiest laning phases of all time?
>abilities do no damage
>long as fuck cooldowns
>traps are easy to avoid and lasts for barely any time unless you dump 3 boons in it
>gun is ok
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>>556525623
Because of the tattoos? Anisa is disgusting greasy trash, in no way near as attractive as Celeste.
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Summer 24 chadlock > 2026 sloplock
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graves sisters run this shit
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>>556529371
>45% pickrate
>still can't get the bitch
just let me play her I know how to aim her gun please yoshi buff her and let me play her
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>>556529675
4 lanes sucked thoughbeit
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>>556529638
>gun character has a weak lane
omg no way
don't feed and press 4
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>>556529534
Fuck off don't ruin the only good summoner we have.
>>556529638
His lane feels bad because he's squishy with no sustain, I like his skills for it. I think his 1 should do more damage on the DoT though.
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>>556529638
hide traps behind pillars and in the veil areas n00b. shotgun any initiation attempts. ez
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>>556529638
i dont even bother interacting with the enemy at the start of the game. you simply do not do any damage, even if they fuck up tremendously they will live.
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>ranked up from ritualist 4 to emissary 6 from the rank reset
boys time to rank up to an archon shitter
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>>556529023
>>556529340
Worse they clearly don't even have a prospective existing plan ahead for how they should balance her if on release she doesn't perform as desired, they fucked her up even worse and she's garbage with no identity now.

Also thee BIGGEST sign of all: she's so unfinished and rushed into their big fancy fucking marketing update that comes once every 6 months and makes people like Shroud stream their game for 4 weeks straight, that she literally doesn't even have her own fucking animations, she uses Seven's as placeholders.

That's WAY more telling than any balance issues. Imagine them releasing Sinclair in his current state as part of a BIG 6 update instead. It's insane that they did this at all.
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>>556529371
>nerfs her again because an eceleb complained
I hate it
she was so fun on release too
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inhouse
DGY19
DGY19
DGY19
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>>556529915
because she was overpowered
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NERF THE FUCKING GRAVE ULT FOR FUCK SAKE
THIS SHIT SPAWNS WAY TOO MANY FUCKING ZOMBIES AND TOO RAPIDLY EVEN IF YOU GO TO MELEE IT YOU'LL EAT ATLEAST 3 ZOMBIE EXPLOSIONS WITH HOW FAST THAT SHIT SPAWNS

GUT THIS FUCKING FAGGOT CHARACTER AS IF AUTO AIM CANCER WASNT ENOUGH
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>>556529638
>traps are easy to avoid and lasts for barely any time unless you dump 3 boons in it
Treat it like Graves' skulls, toss em out while a teamfight is going on or the enemy is distracted so the enemy is less likely to see them
>gun is ok
It has a high mag size, fast fire rate and the fastest bullet velocity in the game, it's one of the best guns for laning
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>>556520409
Did I stutter? Anyone not in full communion is a heretic, worse than a pagan, almost as bad as a jew.
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>>556529909
Eh its just a alpha, gotta remember we wouldn't even be playing this or know about the game if it didn't get leaked.
I actually appreciate them just actually using the playerbase to test shit/develop the game.
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alright venator ult still hits like a fucking truck
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>>556530042
graves ult being powerful is the only thing that makes viscous relevant since his max 3 can damage it
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>>556529978
the only overpowered thing was getting 8k of greens at 5 minutes
they didnt need to snip all her tendons and scoop out her bone marrow
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>>556529909
>Imagine them releasing Sinclair in his current state as part of a BIG 6 update instead. It's insane that they did this at all.
I don't think its that compareable (her wolf animations seems fine at least?) but yeah they fucked the pooch up hard.
Straight up unplayable right now. If sinclair steals your ult hes a better you
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how the fuck do you trigger silver ult?
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>>556528030
it's brawl... let people play what they want if it's not banned

>>556529915
i think silver should be tuned closer to release too even if she turboraped me in wolf form a lot
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Any time I get a venator on my team I just accept the L
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>>556529909
People were getting real feverish about the update during those last couple of days before it dropped. I'd say releasing the patch a little bit earlier was worth the trade-off.
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i just lost a game at archon III and now i'm oracle what the fuck...
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What was I supposed to do here to stop Grey Talon from solo carrying the entire game, I knocked him down on cooldown I guess I should've probably got Curse as opposed to Scourge but I don't know what else I'm supposed to do..
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>You're about to have a real bad day…
>*runs away*
>Shimeu shimeu seventh moon
>*runs away*
>The hunt begins.
>*runs away*
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>>556530234
dealing damage, look closely at your ult, it has a charge that fills up (barely visible, it sucks, i wish it was an actual bar like shiv has)
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>pander to waifufags
>they lose their shit when she gets tiny baby nerfs

they never change
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>>556530234
do damage
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>>556529675
Summer 25 is when this game peaked. These characters range from mid to flops. Every single character in the Mina patch is fucking iconic and amazing with varied and memorable kits, only Drifter really suffers but the rest of his character makes up for it. AND the game finally went from looking like a babby's first game jam project to having a fleshed out and fitting UI that doesn't instantly repel anyone but the most autistic function over form people. That patch is PURE SAUCE and it literally SAVED THE GAME. AND it marked Valve clearly stating they will move away from the DEI bullshit by giving us universally attractive and cool characters (and all of them are white except ambiguously Asian goonbait Mina).

(The current UI and patron updates are very good for the game too though.)
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>>556529371
CAN WE GET MUCH LOWER

(SO LOW)

(SO LOOOOW)
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>>556530263
There has been some weird mmr shift today, everyone is up 1-2 more ranks than they were.
Not sure if intentional or not.
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>>556530168
>be me
>street brawl, veescoos
>graves on enemy team
how it feels to destroy every grave in round 2 and beyond
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>>556524254
McGinnis is straightforward, can potentially carry games on her own, and has multiple viable playstyles. She also has a ton of dedicated mains, so there's a whole host of information out there on how to play her.
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>>556526556
Either that or
>Warden always wins because he prepared his whole life for it.
>Asks to repeat the ritual, the reason being so he can come up with the perfect wish that'll deal with both patrons forever without any chance of it being twisted/monkey paw'ed
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>>556530376
not fair to compare summer '25 to this when we haven't see apollo or celeste yet doe
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>>556529023
Janky ass design that only works properly if you're already winning
I don't understand the design philosophy of a character that is ass in lane and also terrible at farming but is incredibly hard to play that requires perfect aim
Feels like she is only rewarding if you're hitting everything and the people against you in lane suck ass
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Haze is Missing
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>>556530234
do more damage than you have in your kit
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>>556529734
the pickrate there is inaccurate because it's counting days where she was still not out
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>>556530316
>*think youre in the clear*
>OPENING BLACK HOLE!
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>>556530234
Extra health+ healrite+ bullet lifesteal+ Enduring speed

After you get ult, run in front of your creep so you take the enemy creep agro. Trade every hit, if the enemy hero shoot you and you dont shoot them back it wont work. The goal is hero damage+damage taken from creep
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>>556530504
Celeste's animations leaked and they're great but she can't save the entire patch and I don't have faith in her kit either.

Apollo might be cool I don't hate him already like some people seemingly do but it would be the biggest surprise of 2026 if he singlehandedly was THAT good. And if he IS that good or is somehow a groundbreaking full melee character or something it just makes Drifter worse.

I will definitely be gooning to Celeste at least.
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>>556530435
i just want to play with my alchemist friends without having to go ultra tryhard every game to counter my rank counterpart on their team lol
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>>556530730
drifter was never designed to be a full melee hero, he's a nightstalker-ish ganker
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>>556530042
There are so many ways to counter graves ult it’s unreal. Get over it. She has a worthless gun passive and a crappy 1 in exchange.
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>>556528995
During the British Empire's hayday, aristocrats were actually eating ancient egyptian mummies. And the opium wars was started by Britain to get cool mystical Chinese stuff (+tea) out of China for cheap. The largest diamond in the world (Great Star of Africa) rests in the British Imperial Crown. If magic exists in rarity, the snobs of Victorian England in 1905 would've been putting ground up dragon teeth in their tea and showing their friends their Demon Head collection. Queen Victoria probably has diamonds for eyes and the wars are probably fought with Royalty on the frontline.

Honestly not showing what Europe ended up being like in a world without the wars is a waste. It would also make the arms race more interesting as Deadlock's world is currently industrialising magic into science
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Is Gun Doorman still viable or just stick with Spirit for now?
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>Ecelebs kept saying Silver is secret OP
>worst win rate in the game, even worse than release mina
>ecelebs all picked her or banned her for tourny, she didnt do anything in any match
>talked about her so much she got nerfed into the ground when she was already ass


This is so fucking funny, its like some mafia of efags had a vendetta to kill Silver in the crib
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>>556530853
>The 55% wr character is really bad actually dude trust me
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>>556530726
Forgot to add, do NOT get monster rounds or resists or barriers, you want flat hp so DAMAGE TAKEN is high. MITIGATION doesnt build ult

In addition its not hero damage but creep, so if you can use cover to get hit by the creep but not by the hero
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>>556530928
No I'm not saying she's bad I'm saying there are ways to deal with her ult that don't involve having 5 zombies bust on your face. She's not bad, you're bad.
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is m1 graves a meme build or is it actually good

my team just got pigfucked by a capacitor/toxic/mercurial/ricochet graves player
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>be in phantom for literal years
>dream of ascendant
>rank reshuffles never seem to move me
>check my rank
>phantom 4
Who do I play to finally break out of shitlow?
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>>556530234
you don't anymore after the nerfs
lol
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>>556530925
>win rate
dont care
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>Stop queueing with newbies
>start solo queuing by myself
>non-stop wins
>go from seeker all the way to emissary
Aw man I don't know how to feel about this. I feel like the game is gonna stop being fun at some point if I keep climbing.
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>>556531093
phantom and ascendant are barely different, what remains the same are the same ego tripping retards
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>>556531126
I salute your effort to get Silver nerfed
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>>556531083
Meme that sometimes works super fucking well but is still a meme 80% of the time.
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>>556531083
capacitor and toxic are good on her but going beyond that isn't great
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>>556530514
she felt good with 20 second cd ult and being able to trigger it reliably
you could brool to every fight
now you have to forced downtime where you have to farm on a character that can't. and you can't initiate ganks or take off angles because you have to poke with your shotgun and announce your presence before you're allowed to go in
so now you have this awkward character that's forced to do things it's not designed to do (farm and play the midrange)
that she got a day 2 hate patch when graves was allowed to run free is wild
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>>556531126
okay but there was literally a tourney by self-declared "pros" who ranked her so high she was first pick every game they could pick her and she did literally NOTHING in the hands of ANY "PRO"

>don't care
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>>556528782
Ok, but you say beginner, yet you perfectly described all the traits that McGinnis had as if you knew her by heart.
As a 1,600 hour, 562 game McGinnis Main though, I'm here to tell you. That McGinnis Turret kinda fucking suck. Even IF you do fully build for them, it is not guaranteed they will ever be useful. Your Heal? Is MASSIVE, if you build for it with Spirit and Range items. You can cover pretty much an entire battlefield and have your team soak up her 2% HP per second heals +75% Fire rate during a fight. Her Wall (WHEN IT FUCKING WOOOOORKS) Is great at cutting off enemy escapes and forcing them into a fight with you. In those scenarios, you'll learn quickly which one of you is stronger. Or you can block off enemies trying to chase you or your team. (Again, assuming it fucking works and doesn't teleport someone to the wrong side of the wall.)
Do not let others deceive you. Her ult is stronger than you think. Usually I max out Heals ASAP, then max out Ult. This usually is good enough. But if you're building specifically for your heals, then you're also giving your Ult more power along side it and in the right situations, it can erase enemies in no time. All that said, she also has a Minigun, which I love to death, but if you build for spirit with your Heal and ult, her gun suffers a little. She's not exactly like other characters who can build hybrid with zero downsides.
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>>556531083
its better than normal if you actually get all of those items but the process of doing that makes it worse by default
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I am a [redacted] who has voted...
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>>556531267
I like Siphon on her as a late game green buy desu.
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I dont know how people without mics rank up, I have to hard coach for 40-50 minutes in pisslow to win
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what up chuddies, is the game any better now? haven't played in 8 months or whatever, my old verdict was that the moba aspect was lame and shallow for dota players, the shooter aspect was lame and shallow for cs players and the game would only appeal to TF2 psychos that like to jump around in source engine looney physics simulator
is it still the same?
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>>556531408
fag
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>>556515063
What happened to the graves, paige and mina nude mods they're all gone or private from game banana
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>>556531323
she's an anti brawler bruiser. the comp scene is just people running abrams/billy/kelvin/shiv over and over hence why they 1st pick/ban her
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This game was doomed by proplay esports shit before it even came out
grim
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>>556531335
simmer down funke
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>>556530925
mina and shiv have dogshit winrates too despite constantly getting nerfed over and over. They're overpowered when not played by mouthbreathers, just like silver.
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>>556530925
>>worst win rate in the game, even worse than release mina
you mean the hero that got buffed for no reason way too quickly because the waifufags cried and immediately took over the game for the last 8 months of being an undisputed cancer top pick despite being worse NOW than release?
that mina?
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>>556531456
>graves
thats a child you pedo gooner
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>>556531562
spoiler warning: they don't actually play the game
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>>556531083
Its her best build against sentient opponents

Merc mag and ricochet are memes tho
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>>556531543
then why is that when silver was picked by top players she repeatedly did nothing?
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>>556531562
>waifufags who dont play the game go crazy over mina, some of them actually download the game to try her, only to eat dirt because they dont know shit about mobas
>waifufags who dont play the game go crazy over silver, some of them actually download the game to try her, only to eat dirt because they dont know shit about mobas
history repeats...
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>>556531671
are you implying those people playing on night shift are "top players"? lmao
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>>556531456
>graves
yooooo @fbi, we got a diddy blud acting sus caught in 4k.
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>>556531423
A single "go mid" is enough to carry lobbies and you can ping that



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