Previous thread: >>555857003Alternative thread for physicians: >>556546663This thread is dedicated to all games about building machines and systems, in space or otherwise.List of commonly discussed /egg/ games:Voxels, blocks and vehicle builders>Avorion>Besiege>Empyrion - Galactic Survival>From the Depths>Machinecraft>Robocraft>Scrap Mechanic>Space Engineers 2 +1>Sprocket>Starbase>Starship EVO>Stationeers>Stormworks: Build and Rescue>TerraTech>TrailmakersAerospace>Chode - Children of a Dead Earth>Flyout>Kerbal Space ProgramLogistics and factory management>Autonauts>Captain of Industry>Dyson Sphere Program>Factorio>Factory town>Infinifactory>Oxygen not Included>Satisfactory>Shapez>Timberborn>Workers and Resources: Soviet RepublicProgramming puzzles>Exapunks>Last Call BBS>Nandgame>Opus Magnum>Shenzhen I/O>SpaceChem>TIS-100>Turing CompleteThe full game list as well as information about these games, such as where to get them if they’re not on steam, trailers, /egg/ conquered/hosted servers, and other shit can be found in this pad:https://hackmd.io/e6SPFz8VSRmpV91t8bmkWwhttps://fromthedepthsgame.com/Games that are not /egg/:>MinecraftOP pad for new threadhttps://hackmd.io/Z-_iicnWRFi9T8Sm3Ro9rAWebM for physicians: argorar.github.io/WebMConverterReminder: /egg/ has no discord, any discord links posted are from tranny servers.Current and recent /egg/ hosted servers:>Factorio>Stationeers (Monday@2100Z)All IPs are in the pad for security reasons.
What kind of engine/gearbox/etc. should I try and make next? It's been a while since I last played
pickertruck, I choose you!
>100 billion updates later the steel chest still looks like this
>>556549676HAIL TO THE KING, BABY
>>556549676is boxis metalwhat more you want?
>>556549376will never not seethe about how KSP turned out and yet still has a popular positive reputationwhere the fuck are my resources, bitchsorry nothing to do with you or people who enjoy it, i mean like, people hail it as early access done right.very nicely done, anon
>>556554283it's pretty good if you install the autism mods that make things a bit more solar system like
>>556549676
>>556547167>OP pad for new thread>https://hackmd.io/Z-_iicnWRFi9T8Sm3Ro9rAFunny how this keeps slipping in the OP.
>>556548836Play Stormworks man, Build a gunbuster.
>>556549676sovl
>>556542308That's Stingfrond agriculture. It's kind of halfassed since the only use for Stingfronds is to turn 4 Bioflux into Fluroflux which is just 64 MJ Bioflux you can't use for anything but making nutrients. Except that fuel value is a lie and doesn't matter. Because the only thing you can use it for is making nutrients and the recipes are 1 Fluroflux for 40 nutrients and 5 Bioflux for 40 nutrients is basically just a 20% boost to Bioflux nutrients production so long as you can deal with the fact that Stingfronds turn into useless seeds after a single minute and once Bioflux becomes Fluroflux it's only good for Nutrients and literally nothing elseAlso making Stingfrond Ammo which lets you get a poisonous red ammo equivalent basically immediately for no resource cost. I just installed all the extra plant mods I could find because I like them.I'd suggest shit like Slipstacks for stone and maybe Boompuffs to make grenades and explosives because coal synthesis for Military Science is a pain in the ass initially (though you need Military Science to kick down the chance of Boompuffs exploding down 40% or every few harvests your entire farm will explode in a chain reaction)
>>556562116I also have Uranobacteria, but the sheer fucking amount of sulfuric acid it takes it absurd. Thankfully you should really only need nuclear in space so it's not like you're going to need much
>>556549676Where's my tungsten chest
>>556509559I scrap the 5th planet and add more content to the existing ones instead
>>556568597Your idea is good. Earendel has you trespassed from the property and your license to the game revoked
>>556570258To add some stone byproducts to all of them
>>556573080
>>556573080>stone cannot be put into recyclers
>>556575334it can but it has a chance to produce 2 stone
>>556562116>>556563443That guys has some cool mods. Maybe I'll try gleber only next.
>>556547167Next time, keep the OP the same but order all the games without linebreaks so it doesn't stretch for miles.
>>556581512mobilekun...
>>556581512Scroll wheelPage DownSpacebarDown ArrowMiddle Mouse ClickVertical scrollbarMobile finger flick with momentumWith so many options for scrolling, how are you still such a huge faggot
>>556581512Clean your room.
Why not? Why can't I have a train stop for train going south?
>>556585237signals
>>556547167is this good piping? bad piping?t. not a plumber
>>556585237make it bidirectional by mirroring your signals
She bite on my medium worm 'till I spitter
>>556585424Schizo janitor went on a mission to find the asshole that keeps flushing paper towels and gave every branch its own U-pipe.
What should I put in the center of the solar farms?
>>556588069roboports
>>556589412I don't know logistics/circuits/networks yet but I'm sure this will be useful later.
2.1 when
>>556591734It's just a number.
>>556592209no, it's the new and improved version of factorioalso new cheevos
>>556592357nice bump-bait, but still not posting in that thread
>>556583651What are some mobile /egg/s?
what are some mods which fix dense asteroid fields
Nobody complained when I sorted the games list into categories.
>>556594861Switch mobile emulator works very well for many games but factorio is an instant crash on it
>>556596201i baked because of the missing svggas far as i'm concerned the rest of the OP can be the navy seals pasta + the pad
>>556594861Mindustry.
>>556598443Based.
>>556588069>My solar farms keep growing :3>...How do I get out?
>>556548836Ecvt
>>556594881There are some, like this: https://mods.factorio.com/mod/RemoveAsteroidParticles?from=searchWhat cpu do you have? I made it to the shattered planet with a 5600x and my UPS only went down to 50ish in spikes.
>>556598443why is having svgg important?
>>556608417Some anons can't let go of the past.
>>556608772Having no past is for niggers.
>>556608417>It's not a big deal>but we must get rid of itI wish you fall face first on thumbtacks.
>>556607067just bot urself out my dude
this one was unexpectedly trickyit also came out kinda ugly
>>5565923525 new circuit condition icons and nerfs to gambling
>>556618770if 2.1 won't at least completely revamp how space travel works (referring to the UPS murder), i'm going to take a giant shit inside a canning jar and mail to to Wube
>>556608339cool, thanks, my UPS stayed at 58-59 with this mod, although this was just the inner belt, not the path to the shattered planet10400 btw
>go to fulgora>make another abomination in an attempt to unfuck production>give up and leave>repeat
Was whoever said trains weren't good on satisfactory smoking some crack? These don't collide with other trucks and are fast and reliable
>>556622774They're okay if you're doing point to point. Anything more complicated than that is a massive headache
>>556622774They have shit logic and take longer to build. If they had better logic then they would be absolutely worth it. As they are now they are mostly cosmetic. Also they made fluid wagons shit on purpose.
>>556622774>stations don't input/output while a train is at the station>intersections need to be flat or else they won't work>can't blueprint rails>shitty logic controlsBut other than that they're amazing.
>>556624998I don't have circuits yet everything has shit logic by default
>>556608772How far ago is this? Archives don't have any /svgg/ and the first mention in in /egg/.
>>556622774Trucks are not meant to be used in places where you will be, when out of render range trucks will teleport along their path and phase through any obstacles, terrain, vehicle or otherwise.
>>556622774You have to rely on a mod called dynamic train route to improve the conditions if you do more than bidirectional.And another mod for train stop no pause.>https://ficsit.app/mod/DynamicTrainRoutes
>>556622774Most complaints boil down to them not working like in some other game. The best thing about trains is their scalability.>>556623203>Also they made fluid wagons shit on purpose.Most of the time it doesn't matter, just add more wagons/trains. The big exception is nitrogen gas, which you really want to put in fluid tanks because of compression.>>556624998>>stations don't input/output while a train is at the stationPut a container/fluid buffer in front of it or just let the belt fill if long enough.>>intersections need to be flat or else they won't workLike in real life. Build on foundations.>>can't blueprint railsYou can, although rail blueprints were a pain before 1.1 added blueprint auto-connect. I have 28 km of rails and 97% of it are from blueprints. The remaining 3% are station entrances and some places where I built into the environment.>>shitty logic controls???
>>556609706It's not a big deal. It doesn't have to be one way or another forever. But there's no reason to be an absolute nigger about it and rebake the thread to get your way, just wait until the next thread. The OP is allowed to change between threads, it's not an issue.
>>556627249>Most of the time it doesn't matter, just add more wagons/trainsYou wouldn't need a workaround if the devs didn't intentionally make fluids wagons shit.
>>556625562Probably a decade by now. There's two, maybe three people here who have worsening schizophrenia and the voices inside their walls start shouting at them whenever they see an egg without svgg in the title
>>556630528Gradual changes, dear juicebox.Next time remove /svgg/ without enforcing your scroll-aversion on the rest of us.
>>556547167>>555555555
You know, the battle between autists for the OP is quite funny. Scrollshizo earned the schizo title after last thread meltie.
>>556632293newfag
>>556631961I don't care that much about the svgg stuff either way, it's just funny to get the svigger boomers riled up. The old OP looks like ass with the long list of games, but even that isn't that important.My biggest gripe is the faggot with the link to the pad who will resist any change to the OP, however small it may be. I just want creative freedom for all bakers. Let the egg breathe and let people change things.
>>556632293why it is not on 4bk?
>>556632510oldfag
>>556632560>The old OP looks like ass with the long list of gamesIt's been long enough for this shit.You *must* post a screenshot.
>>556631235Autists already did the math and arrived at the conclusion that fluid wagons better than packaging into containers until tier 9/mk. 6 belts (when they become equal to), except with gases or if you use the empty containers otherwise at the target location.https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Train_throughput#Note_about_Fluid_Cars
>>556632803A screenshot of what? The OP? nigger I have a 1080p monitor it looks like absolute dogshit on it, 3/4ths of my screen just empty
>>556613156Nice. Here's mine from ages ago.
and the final level donethis is the first zach game I fully completedguess I'll try opus magnum next>>556633538looks nice, very orderly
>>556635661spoil me on the story after you start squeezing blocks through teleporters, I always burn out before getting further.
>>556635879you build equipment to fight the frogs, destroy their fleet, and build a skip drive and get back to earththere's also a mission where you fight one of their attacks by building a sort of weapon/defense control interface you operate via switches and use it in real time (worst level, hated it)
COI at 71% review scoreisn't 70% the point at which it's downgraded to mixed?
>>556638097What did it do to deserve review bombing?
>>556640296paid dlc while in early accessshame on you
>>556640296not a review bomb if they did things players didnt like retard
>>556619354just build bigger ships instead of more ships
lol
>>556642852>we worked on our unfinished game>please gib more monies
>>556613156what is the game name
>>556646838It's on the list.
>>556646838Infinifactory
>>556547167How does armour thickness stacking for protection work in FTDIs there much maths with using Steel-steel-steel or steel-HA-steel
>>556654181Set up a test rig and try it out.
supposed to>rebuild vulcanus with all the new toys to increase output>move sciences to nauvis because of biolab>unclog fulgora (holmium buildup, don't want to void it)>redo all schedules and interrupts in a less retarded way>assign a space platform for aquilo>build a space factory>visit the modded planets>visit the shattered planet>fly to the lost beyond (mod)i'm not even close to being burned out, but i'm kinda lazy
>>556654181https://fromthedepths.fandom.com/wiki/Armour_Layeringhttps://fromthedepths.fandom.com/wiki/Damage
>>556646838arguably the worst zachtronics gamebut it's a zachtronics game, so it's still better than 90% of all puzzle games
>>556658037>worstNot counting the non-puzzle games since I don't know anything about those.
>>556660312fuck i totally forgot about molek syntezok second worst
>>556657858i fucking hate f*ndominshallah that nigger of a company goes to jahannam
finallyI've done itI'm not even going to research the biolabsall I want is to capture biter nests and feed a steady stream of their eggs into the incinerator
>>556667730damn it I forgot the picgleba sucks but it was worth it
>>556667730muh six gorillionthe great bite forward5 biter plan1989 nauvis square
>>556664790Maybe you should use your prayer time to scrape the wiki
>>556667915The tech you get from gleba makes me want to go there first on the next playthrough. Stack inserters and biolabs are godlike, and having access to tier 3 efficiency modules is nice too
This game is too fucking hard
>>556670820This is a high quality shitpost
>>556670820forced spaghetti is not real spaghetti
>>556667730Based
Load speed fag should have put his energy into bitching about updating mod times. Holy fuck I've been waiting for like 30 minuets.
who tf got the 555555555 get and why it is not in the archive?
>>556677398the subhumans who run this site went out of their way to eradicate any semblance of soul 4chan had left in their eternal pursuit of glowiemaxxing (they will be culled in the end just like us, no matter how much dick they suck, the pathetic fucks)
don't believe for a second that i didn't see that
>>556680423I accidentally spoiled it. It was too embarrassing to let it stay up.
>blackout on aquilo>don't have fusion set up yet
>>556684519What are you using to power your Aquilo base?I pretty much just started and I'm using crafted solid fuel, is it worth shipping nuclear stuff over instead? I assume the heat pipes from nuclear is also a great benefit.
>>556684519Ship in reactors and uranium cells, the reactors double as a heat source for keeping everything working
>>556686106>>556686121>What are you using to power your Aquilo base?nuclear, only messed up the ammonia overflow logic and ran out of water for the turbines
>>556686592You could ship in barrels of water to help fix it
>>556686592Are you against supplying ice from the orbital platform?It's always good to have it as backup supply in case you mess things up like that.
>>556686683>shipping barrelsShipping barrels means shipping barrels to orbit, using up rockets that could be delivering more useful supplies.Even if you make barrels in orbit, this still sounds silly, since then you'd have to process the barrels and dispose of them.Ice is already in orbit, only needs to be dropped down, and planetside melting is easier to scale, since platforms are often very optimized and specialized for their size.>gotta melt it thoAdmittedly, this is a potential point of failure.But you can also drop some carbon to fuel a heating tower to warm up the ice melting area.
>>556688498I was more talking about shipping barrels as a stop-gap. He has the infrastructure to make water on planet but ran out after miscalculating. I'm suggesting he send water to kickstart the power production so his base starts working again so he can fix the mistake. If the barrels need to be reused, then they can be used to ship fluroketone to other planets if/when he decides to export fusion to other planets
HELP
Do you guys think locking vanilla techs like artillery or the spidertron behind other planets made the dlc better or worse?
>>556693437WORSE
>>556660312i have it but never tried itwhy is it the worst?
>>556693437for artillery I'd say it's worse because you're encouraged to go to vulcanus way too muchfor spidertron it doesn't matter since it became useless ever since remote mode
>>556677398dubs aside from 00 have been blocked for forever
>>556677946>>556695843when did that happen? i remember getting trips a while ago (on another board)
We're still a bit confused. But we've got the spirit.
>>556694515Remote mode didn't make spidertrons obsolete.Their primary function is and always was to be a remote-controlled fauna exterminator/mobile roboport, with emphasis on the latter, because artillery exists to take care of the former.
>>556693437Locking artillery and spidertron behind was fine, but locking cliff explosives behind vulcanus was disgusting
>>556702719>mobile roboportyeah, but you don't really need that when you can just extend your logistic networkunless you play railworld maybe
>>556596201>>556598443The "new OP" also removes the pad for some fucking reason, so it is literally functionally a downgrade and not just stylistically.
>>556693437Yes, because it meant we didn't get new stuff instead.Oxygen Not Included did the same thing, just spread their existing content between 8+ locations.
>>556670743Stack inserters are not particularly useful without the late game ultra-throughput shit from other planetsBiolabs yesTier 3 efficiency is the one module that has basically zero use, at least until you're making a megabase and pollution is causing you lagSo it's just biolabs but all it does is double your science. The other planets make it easy to honestly pretty much double your science production AND make everything else vastly easier too
>>556694515>>556702719I never played 1.0 vanilla post-spidertron launch, so I only actually built my first ever spidertrons in spage. What were they like before remote mode, how did they become less useful?
>>556695972>(on another board)
>>556693437I agree with >>556703007. Artillery is not that crucial before you're scaling up, same for spidertrons really; the mid-game is clearly about vertical scaling, where a few foundries with common quality prod3s and some speed modules will shit out insane amounts of metal, while big miners literally double all of your ore patches, and even the mining productivity research was made exponentially cheaper so you can easily get 10-20x mining prod with pretty much a starter-ish base (doubling and tripling your ore patches again).By the time you actually need to expand significantly, you'll have all three planets easily, probably even aquilo too.But cliff explosives being locked is literally just "noo play it MY way!!" shitty forced-puzzle design. It's the philosophy of adding an obstacle that's purely annoying and then forcing players to wait extra before they can finally bypass it. Artillery is a nice late-game tool to make clearing biters easier but is not essential, spidertrons are a nice late-game tool for mobile roboports and far away biter clearing but again are not essential and in the midgame you can just cover your entire base with roboports. Cliff explosives are absolutely crucial to being able to build without being fucking raped by impassable objects randomly generated everywhere on the map.The even funnier thing is that atomic bombs still work pre-vulcanus, and so they had to make them cost 10x more uranium to make it a bit harder to spam.I can kind of get the puzzle aspect of cliffs on vulcanus because all the SA planets are somewhat based on gimmick puzzles. But just fucking make extra hard volcanic cliffs on vulcanus and make a second tier of super duper cliff explosives to research there, then. If it feels hamfisted that's because it is, but it'd still make for better gameplay than locking nauvis cliff destruction way further into the game.
>>556693437For me it's coal liquefaction. I never seen to have enough oil and even then the amount of heavy oil it gives if you want blue belts is not nearly enough.Which leads to now skipping blue belts (except if you go Fulgora first, but then there's not nearly enough iron).
>>556704016You can download 1.1 on the website and try it out yourself.Before you had to craft a spidertron remote for each spidertron and they were quite expensive. 1 rocket control unit iirc. You could only link the remote to a single spidertron. You couldn't remote-pilot them so while they had radar, you had to move the camera manually. Their legs moved differently and if you tried to tell them to cross a river and they failed, you would unironically lag your game because they were very poorly optimized. I'm not kidding a single spidertron that tries and fails to cross an obstacle was more UPS intensive than a 2k spm megabase. Also iirc you had to be physically present to link a command to a spidertron so if you forgot, you have to go back manually to link it. The way group handled was simply by telling a spidertron to follow another spidertron. Which means that if something happened to that spidertron the group would be disbanded and leaderless. Logistic groups didn't exist so you had to manually give them requests instead of assigning them to a group.
>>556706974or steam
>>556706974Wonder how much of that improvement they in fact took from AAI Automated Vehicles.
>>556707050If you do that, you'll have to redownload the lastest version and it can break a ton of stuff, including your settings and mod list. Too much of a pain when you can just log on the website and download the standalone version directly there.
>>556707293o yea truefellas dont do that if you value your blueprint library
alchemy factory any good?
I haven't played space age since the release. I guess I should play it again but it was a slog. I don't like having to micromanage each planet because resource runs out, having to make more and more platform and having to worry about ups. It feels like I constantly have to go backward to fix things just to push forward slightly.
>>556710178haven't had any of your issues, you're probably just bad
Was reading stormworks suggestions and this caught my eye.https://geometa.co.uk/support/stormworks/29288
>>556710178vulcanus and fulgora are zero maintenance other than moving mining drills, if it's still an issue give them quality miners. even blue helps a lot>having to make more and more platformone hauler per planet and one ship for you to travel inI think the biggest downside is having to fortify Nauvis before you leave, so the base doesn't get eaten before you're able to come back.
>>556711232get a load of this guy who thinks the stormworks devs are ever going to do anything good.
>>556712282Fulgora piss me off because scrap just disappear too fast if you didn't invest in quality big drills. Gleba is eternal but doing it properly sucks and doing it with bots sucks barely less. Vulcanus requires so much scouting to find resources, it's a pain. And by the time you finish a planet you need to go back to Nauvis and rework everything with the new tools because your patches have dried up and the new buildings are too strong not to use. Which means you need even more rockets which means boosting the production even more on every planet only to get to aquilo and quit the game for 2 weeks because you just played 70 hours and only 15 of those hours were something new and interesting.
>>556632560bake your own threadif it's good enough anons will migrate to itclearly speedbaker-kun's thread wasn't
>>556712905>Fulgora piss me off because scrap just disappear too fastjust make it turn of automatically if you have all your materials satisfiedin my 250h megabase I never had a single (small island) patch run out
>>556706974Wait so how did the new changes make spidertrons useless (or more precisely, how could they possibly make that anon think they became useless or even less useful)
>>556714729I just vaguely read what he said. He's full of shit basically. But not entirely. Spidertrons are far from useless since they have build in radar and are much easier to control than tanks.Basically before 2.0, you could not remote control anything. Anything at all. You had to be near a train to control them, you had to be in a vehicle to pilot it, except for the spidertron. Tanks had no logistic grid so spidertrons had a massive advantage because you could shove a bunch of construction items in them and load them with personal roboports to remotely build things using blueprints and ghost. It was fairly clunky but that could save you several minutes per outpost. The alternative was to manually go to where you want to build. They were also a lot stronger for combat before 2.0 due to another nerf. Personal lasers used to deal 3 times more damage. So you could shove a bunch in your spidertron and it would take care of most things. Nests health also didn't scale with pollution.
>>556693437Worse. It's just a dev cheat code to not have to make more content and instead take away existing content to repackage. The fact they felt the need to do it this way shows they couldn't think of a better way to make the other planets more desirable. Which I mean, vulcanus could have just had foundries alone and it would still be top tier. Add cliff explosives is just a kick in the nuts.
>spidertroon
>>556703007Wish they made shitty and expensive cliff explosives available on Nauvis with the proper ones on Vulcanus.
>>556718872the game literally has this with nukes
>>556719148Oh true I always forget that.But yeah, cliffs are a non-issue in space age anyways.
i love how we can pull off shit like this on vulcanus with ease and spam it too
Planet unlocks don't matter until you can make legendary everything.
>quality
>>556699795I think it should follow the other way, one perlica produces 2 eggs
>>556722772I agree. This is my usual Planting/seed-picking setup. (for plants which don't require water, obviously)I think the artist allowed himself some sort of poetic licence; For aesthetic sake.
>>556724906Why are you not just using the other planter for the seedstock and the other for output?
>>556725719Same reason I'm not using a Protocol Stash. (the item are flowing toward the hub in this pic. Wasting tons of space) I've never bothered updating my blueprints after reading all the advices on /end/.I'll do it after 1.1 gets released, I think.
>>556719882I'll be making 2000 plates/s from a single foundry while you are stuck on 80.
I think the reason I burnt myself out in the past without even making it out of early game was because I tried to production max everything.The game is surprisingly comfy when you just start out with minimum production and go from there if you want to increase it and/or make it more efficient
>>556729597What do the output belts from that look like
>>556730707275/s is the maximum, he's just being jewish about the numbers
>>556731306290*
>>556731443400*
>>55673157169420*
>>556731673
>>556732187Shut the fuck up Mart.
what egg games are you currently playing, anon?
>>556734146Endfield is actually good. (okay, only for about 60~80hours. But more content is on its way)
