Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!/sthg/ #9045 - Dog and Rat cuddles Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offshttps://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - 04 March 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 11 March 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 08 April 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OC info:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>556573914
sex with honey btw
>>556611052What's this gay shit? This isn't cropped porn, you PUSSY.
>>556611126same
>>556610982>>556611052Turns out it's cropped porn.Well, at least anon gave a warning.
>>556606691So does Eggman just not have a second escapepod?
>>556611052That's so cute, especially when you imagine she has a womb full of his puppies.
>>556611495She aborts them all
They have rough sex
How would you write Whisper? Disregard IDW.
>>556610168Heroes didn't really look like SA1 or 2, that was the problem a lot of fans had with it.>>556610171Ian already filled Whisper with unresolved personal trauma in the mini series. It was Ian's idea to also have Mimic break out of jail in another mini-series.Mimic is the second worst character in the comic.
Douge
>>556611772>Mimic is the second worst character in the comic.Like I said, Whisper should've been part of Infinite's squad. Would've made for a more interesting story.
>>556611752She died on the way back to her home planet.
>>556611671>Insert the exploding ovaries page from issue 56.
Cream the Rabbit.
>>556611671>Sonamy>Sonaze>SonurgeCan all work. But it's mostly the girls having the hots for Sonic while he isn't committing to any of them.
>>556611772>Heroes didn't really look like SA1 or 2, that was the problem a lot of fans had with it.NTA but those fans already hated SA1 & SA2. Heroes did nothing but justified their belief that the cast was too bloated with characters nobody likes while true OGs like Fang and Sally was getting ignored.
>>556611752She a transqueen drug lord from the Bronx and wants to kill Eggman for bombing her top delivery squad
>>556612286>while true OGs like Fang and Sally was getting ignored.Get outta here
>>556611910Not really, like the OGDC, nobody in the game cast really cared about the Jackal Squad, they had no presence in the World of Sonic. I think Whisper would just be in the same spot she's in now regardless of what her old team was. Besides, ST/Sega would probably not allow a former JS member to be made a hero character because Shadow canonically killed them all and again nobody in the cast cares.
>>556612396Okay...*walks out with tail between legs*
'ge
>>556611813>officially debunked by SegaShatouge never had a leg to stand on.
>>556612426>nobody in the game cast really cared about the Jackal Squad, they had no presence in the World of Sonic. I think Whisper would just be in the same spot she's in now regardless of what her old team was.Easy fix. Whisper's the Forces Avatar.
>>556612589sexo
i lwk shat myself tryna push out a stanky fard for shadow. He been acting giddy bout it tho
You are UNDER arrest...!
>>556612759my farts be so stank they should be classified as a illegal breathing hazard. good thing shadow dgaf bout the law and he gonna save me
>>556611317It's not cropped. It's just cuddling.
We literally have a scat fetishist in this general and nobody seems to mind
>>556612759No you dumb bitch I'm in CARDIAC arrest!
ive had
>>556613048because it's low effort shitposting
>>556611981
>>556613074Fiona the deafo
>>556611752Whisper's team of wisps are her's specifically, not the partner wisps of her dead friends. OGDC are not dead, but they had a messy breakup which informs how Whisper avoids connecting to people, they also have their own team of wisps so we can see more interactions between wisps. The wisps are Whisper's main teammates, not other blobian characters, she talks to her's and other wisps more (make her more of a wisp whisperer), though she does connect with the game cast and restoration members like Tangle, Jewel and Lanolin to varying degrees. In stories she's like Movie Piccolo, where she comes in late and turns the tide of the fight before the main villain gets involved for Sonic/the main character of the storyline to deal with.
Maria made Shadow play weird games that made him feel funny
>>556612645
>>556612616Can't happen because ST wants the Avatar to be (you) .
Don't call me a dog...
Would you?
Much like with Mighty and Ray, if the IDW sluts were seen as any kind of important, they'd be on the Sonic channel website. Friggin Ariem is more important to them than Green chick Sonic.
>>556614043Tried it, didn't work, next question.
>>556613048it's an underaged shitposter that no one responds to
>>556614043I'd try.
On that note: Do you think Sonic Team remembers any other Classic characters then these?
>>556613826Why isn't Tails eating them?
>>556614336yeah they just don't have official 3D models yet because models are hard to make ok
>>556614336Nope that's all of em.
>>556614118Don’t jinx it anon, they have been added as an option on the avatar creation part of the site recently. There is a very real chance they get updated into this chart at some point after the crossworlds release.
>>556611752>Whisper was part of Infinite's squad>They were tasked with dealing with "Team Dark">Shadow's in one zone, with Rouge and Omega in another>Infinite goes for Shadow solo since he's the Ultimate Mercenary>Whisper tells him to be safe>Infinite encounters Rouge and Omega instead>It was a setup>Shadow's with his team>Infinite rushes to the other zone as fast as he can but it's too late>They're gone.>He finds Whisper's mask and screams>But Whisper didn't die>She ran away and left her team for dead>her quiet and timid nature got the better of her>She's been in hiding until the main plot happens out of guilt and trauma.>She finally decides to hold herself accountable and join the fight as the Forces Avatar
Red pill me on the hatred for Amy's tarot cards.
>>556614469Too spiny.
>Amy is just a "friend" to Sonic>Trip and Fangs relationship is "Former Master/Servant"Uh Fang, banging your slaves is unethical.
>>556614336>>556614118Barkbros...Beanbros...Honeysissies...
>>556614118>ChaosNot a rival.>MephilesShouldn't exist.>AriemUseless computer program.>>556614336No, because acknowledgement leads to fan expectations. And they want to manage that.
>>556614686https://files.catbox.moe/khg3rf.webm
>>556614686>Knuckles - Fighting Friend>Metal Sonic - Rivaland Knucklesfags complaing about how Shadow stole Knuckles role as Sonic's rival when he never was one to begin with
https://youtu.be/0s6lFYjiIPE?si=fjh6oKZgV4B1DE0V
>RokkishuWTF?>Super Disturbing CautiousWere Zeti supposed to be scary and super evil? Cause they aren't.>>556614518That update added the Boom characters as well. I think its just for Crossworlds and nothing more.
>>556614887>Ariem>Useless computer program.She's a dream goddess.
>>556614721Honey has no reason to exist than just being a Fighting Vipers knock-offNothing is of value was lost
>>556614118I figure it's more of a "what models do we have on hand" thing, for what ever reason ST doesn't want to use 2d art for these. The Classic chart reuses Superstar renders.>>556614336What other Classic Characters are there? Bean Honey and Bark are AM2 characters that probably need permission to be used, and the Classic Chaotix are dead. Who else is left?
>>556615052The boom characters were added in a different section though, Tangle and Whisper were put with other main continuity game characters as well as got a special emblem logo. Only other character to get that in that section was Marine
>>556615326>Who else is left?Mighty and Ray.
>>556615052>RokkishuDaemon SixThey were also apparently supposed to be oni before SoA asked SoJ to change it. It actually sounds better.
>>556615052>Were Zeti supposed to be scary and super evil?yes.
>>556615557It's just another jelly filled donuts situation>the west must scrub out any japanese influences because they think the english audience don't know what it is and will be confusedI thought we had moved past this shit but clearly not
Rat milk.
It's impossible to find the Deadly Six scary when they were created during a time where the Sonic brand was trying to be comical and lighthearted as possible due to millennial fans complaining about the 2000s games being serious.
>>556615557Having a cool name would ironically do MORE damage to their and Sonic Team's reputation
>>556615985>bigdad
>>556616307what's this one?
>>556616449Shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsbH96yUVUM
>>556615326It's not so much of having everyone but the fact that Mighty and Ray were recently resurrected.>What other Classic CharactersAside from shitposting about picsreel, quite a bit.You got the animal friends:Flicky (all four of them)RickyPockyRockyPeckyPickyCuckyThe AM2 characters:BarkBeanHoneyTail's spinoff enemies:Battle Kukku XVIDr. Fukurokov (Doctor Fuck You Off)Great Battle Kukku XVWitchcartHocke-WolfBearangerCarrotttiaAnd Miscellaneous ones like:Mighty and RayHeavy and BombThe various Metal SonicsThere's actually a lot here. I don't expect all these characters to get added. No, I didn't forget the Chaotix, I just didn't care.
>>556615941SoA got SoJ to call them "Zeti" (with 'Z'-themed names) in Japanese, too. Even though keeping them as oni would arguably raise less questions since the game never answers what in the world a Zeti is other than I guess they're beings who can control mechanical things and are under the spell of a musical instrument for some reason.
>>556615557Sonic fighting actual Oni should be relegated to a Storybook game. It feels too random to happen in a mainline game, it would be like if Sonic crashed on a random mountain and started fighting the actual Olympians; just feels out of place for a series that doesn't really use "real-world" mythological beings like that. I think turning them into aliens called Zeti makes more sense for this franchise.>Daemon SixSurprised they changed out demon to DEADly, consider Lost World is supposed to be the "kiddy" Sonic game.
>>556616206I wasn't really paying attention to wider fan reactions during the time, but I don't think "being serious" is a quality summation of the general criticism
>>556614686>>556615052Is Friendship really the most powerful energy source in Sonic's world?
The only to make the Deadly Six scary if there's a scene where Zavok beats up Amy to the point she's broken beyond belief. Something akin to what happened to Videl in the Buu Saga.
>>556616206They had years to make the Deadly Six more interesting, I can forgive a bad first introduction if the characters is able to improve but they don't anything interesting with themIt seems like they only wanna use them as stock antagonists whenever they need one
>>556616802It's worth pointing out that we already have evil ghosts in this franchise. Japanese demons aren't a stretch.
>>556617009"The power of Friendship" is a Japanese staple
>>556617023That sounds so fucking ridiculous but I would pay to see it happen. Have 'em make "I'll eat your heart" threats like Eggman did to them.
>>556616862>but I don't think "being serious" is a quality summation of the general criticismIt definitely is. One of the biggest criticisms was that the 2000s was trying to be serious in what's essentially a franchise that started with a hedgehog trying to defeat a fat goofy doctor.
>>556614118Lanolin is 100% better designed than this ugly bitch and you know it
What would a chart with just IDW characters look like?
>>556616761The animal buddies still show up in both Classic and Modern games, and the Flicky Island birds were in the Tails Anniversary Comic with the Witchcart crew. The Witchcart crew actually got official full designs for that comic too. But things are kind of weird for them and special permission was needed to use them; I imagine the reason why a lot of Classic Characters don't show up as a lot of them weren't made by ST and Sega legal probably needs to get involved. lolwho owns what has plagued Sonic for decades and the early 90s had a lot of issues with that. (i.e. Sega couldn't use Green Hill's theme because Masato Nakamura owns it.)>Hocke-WolfYou can say his real name anon, don't be scared. lol
>>556617868>no physical armssubtle NiGHTS energy
>>556614118INFINITE MENTION IN THE BIG 2026 WE'RE SO BACK
>>556617072Ghosts are beings that many people believe exists in the real world since they are invisible spirits roaming in dark abandon placesDemons not so much, unless you're a heavily religious
>>556617868No
>>556618048That relationship list was made last year
>>556617941>Hocke-Wolf>You can say his real name anon, don't be scared. lolok>ホッケウルフ>hokkuwurufu>Hock Wolf (Hocke-Wulf?)Not that far off desu...
>>556617941Yeah something about being a "Kabushiki-gaisha" means various subsidiaries own their shit and not the parent company. See also Sega of America owning the rights to the old Cartoons and (had Archie not fucked up) all the Archie comics stuff.>You can say his real name anon, don't be scared. lolRight, I forget his real name is Pete.
>>556618385THE BIG 2025 PART 2
>>556617941Anything that was made for a series is copyrighted and owned by the company that series belongs toAt least that's how it normally works
>>556618405I read somewhere that in japanese Ho and Fo are the same sound. It think it was reading owl noises and instead of “Hoo” they wrote Foo
>>556619112why da rat tired?
>>556617072Oni are a very specific type of Japanese demon that have a lot of cultural context behind them that isn't well known outside of Japan. I think this is kind of why the zeti aren't really explained in Lost World because they were write as Oni and assumed the audience would know what that is.You point out ghosts, but that is a good contrast. The Sonic uses the more universal depiction of ghosts and not Yokai, which is a specific type of Japanese ghost/spirit that has cultural ties to Shinto and are different from the Halloween ghosts that most people know.
>Bigeta! What does the shuffler say about his power special?It's Super Sonic RumBLLLLLLLLLE!!
>>556617868>lanolin
>>556619186
>>556619190Are Oni subjugated by music? Or was the magic conch just an idea they got from SpongeBob?
>>556619468
>>556618405Sorry, I was trying to be funny, lol. Originally his name was translated as Focke-Wulf which is a reference to picrel a German aircraft manufacturer from WWII, but it sounds like Fuck Wolf. Archie tried to adapt the Focke-Wulf name to make it sound less like Fuck Wolf (Falke Wulf), but now a days the more accurate Hocke-Wulf is used.
>>556619680Stop poking her and preform mouth to mouth already!
>>556619680
uuubros... It's not looking too good for us next week
>>556620160Why’s that?
my stanky fards? out my booty hole. shadow's nose? huffin all that stank
>>556620160inb4 they get some fat sassy black woman to speak as whisper and she doesn't even sound sad because they don't know how
>>556620002The other Focke-Wulf
Sonic Adventure 0.5
Sheep wife
>>556620216Our reality will be shattered when the wolf speaks
>>556620160If we're talking about the Chaotix files featuring some lesbians for Xwittertards to shit their pants and call it being wet then no, i'm waiting for the state of play.
>>556619178Ha, Hu / Fu, Ho, Hi, HeThe reason why it's often spelled as fu is because of the sound. In actually it's probably something in between an H and F. Or like you said, an Owl's hoo.>>556619487https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ushi-oni>The legend of the ushi-oni at Uwajima is one of the most well known among all the ushi-oni legends. Once, an ushi-oni attacked people and livestock, so a yamabushi from Kawabe, Kita District was called to slay it. Facing off with the ushi-oni in the village, the yamabushi blew a conch and chanted a mantra, whereupon the ushi-oni recoiled. The yamabushi thrust a sword between its eyebrows and proceeded to cut its body into pieces.
>>556620383>Sonic Adventure 0.5
>>556620304he's got the perfect bod for it
>>556620390mogs Ariem
>>556619487Nah, people just meme on itThe conch in Lost World puts Zeti in great pain when blown into itThe conch in Spongebob is just a pull string toy that answers when you ask it something
We can't make them Oni, Westerners have no context to know what an Oni is...Look Over There, Tails! it's THE LOST HEEEEX???!?!?!?!?!
>>556620390Free use milk dispenser.
>>556620002Nice butt
>>556620419Hu is on firstWatt is on secondI. Dono is on third
>>556620628The closest analogue to oni and yokai in the West are the fae, really.
>>556619719Are Bearanger and Carrottia also named after historical warmachine manufacturers? If not, I'm chalkng this up as a strange coincidence and the fans who made that connection need to get out more...
>>556620768Ogre or Troll is the closest we to Oni
>>556620656
>>556620274Disaster...
>>556620419>[Ushi-oni] are said to appear in beaches, in mountains, in forests, in rivers, in swamps, and in lakes. Interesting how much Japanese mythology was in Lost World. Maybe that's why the Japanese fans liked it so much.
>>556620865Zeti's based on Yeti so they're sasquach fucks.
>>556620831Bearanger probably is meant to sound like Derringer, the gun
>>556620997Buenos dias, Drago
>>556621094The name "Zeti" is but Oni are similar to an Ogre
Tails and Rouge request, with Tongue
>>556621173oh shit
>>556620628Yeah man, everybody in the West is familiar with the Ushi-oni's weakness for conch shells, lol.I'm sure you weren't confused why Eggman had this thing.
>>556620768Why not call them the Gargoyle Gang?
>>556620390Give her the dart
>>556621198buenos dias, Amy friend
>>556621313i don't know for carrottia though. maybe Garrote? or just Carrot
>Hocke-Wulf and Bearenger are named after Focke-Wulf and deringerManly Men>Carrottia and Witchcart are basic bitchespussy pass wenches
>>556621290mmmmmm
>>556621086>jerk off japanese ideas like its mysticism, super cities, and being an advanced civilization on an island still standing after the world ends>japan loves itevery time
>>556620831>>556621313And Carrottia is named after the word carrot.
>>556621979cute wolf...
if Sega or Sonic Team wants the Japanese audience so badly, why haven't they made Persona 5 but with Sonic characters?
>>556622428Iizuka is NEVER getting that RPG he wants.
>>556621675I guess the meme flew over your head but that's okay. I hope you have a lovely day too!!
>>556621979Witchcart may be an anagram/corrupted pun of Witchcraft get it because she's a witch that rides in a craft They just got lazy with Carrottia.
>>556622268
>>556622537hate when that happens, but thank you, I hope your day goes well too
shadow shoving his nose into my booty sucking all my stanky nasty latina gasses out
>>556621290
Lets go down to the old folks home and wax the steps!
>>556622697Maybe off topicbut I always kinda wanted a witch-type villain in this series, someone who acts like the Amy/Rouge to Eggman's Sonic/KnucklesKinda like a Witch Katella, someone who has the hots for Eggman but acts like a mean egotistic bitchWicked Witch from Cyberchase does have a similar dynamic with her love for HackerNot sure if it would ruin Eggman's character or anything but I just think it would be funny
>>556623226It was this really dumb meme for the record, don't worry too much about it.
what if witchcart was an ark survivor who was put off by science?
>>556624337
>>556624573Perfect
Best frontiers song? I never played the game
>>556614721AM2 characters are never going through be "major" core characters, you're just going to accept the fact they're the Nintendo SPD and Camelot Software OCs of the classic cast, especially when most of them are just references to existing SEGA titles like Fighting Vipers, Dynamite Dux, and Str- wait is Bark even based on someone??
is whisper fatter and more retarded than big?
>>556624897I only really know Undefeatable, love that song
>>556625159Big is a laidback fisherman who takes life easy. Not really retarded.
>>556624518Why was she on the Ark if she is averse to science? And how did she get to the Ark when its in the Modern Dimension and she's from the Classic dimension?
>>556625303but who is fatter? the cat or the dog?
>>556625190Same, that's why I'm asking. I do wanna go through all the OST to find another gem
my fards so stanky they burn my booty hole. shadow burrito blasted my asshole! this bih better use chaos control cuz this mfin booty gonna burst
It's time to say nigger.
>>556624139Hot evil women would make people buy games.
>>556615892This is what fixem yumes want
>>556625303He speaks like "DUUUUH FWOOGGGY"i don't care how progressive nu sega wants to be pretending like he's human and cool and should be the main character of TSR he is retarded.
>>556624897in general or just the ones people talk about (the boss themes)?
>>556617868Love how nobody brings up this slutIf this was early SEGA, STI would have told those nips to drop this slut fast
My egyptian wife (she resurrected my mummy bone).
Bean isn't crazyBark isn't muteHoney isn't a pedophile
>>556625873hot
>>556625873Cute
>>556624897https://youtu.be/I7RXTp0xvmg?si=AxNAkJLxwjuRdNI8https://youtu.be/olM_nvEVoxk?si=N-114tfI-inwxpr1For HIstorical ReasOns.
>>556625874>Bean isn't crazySure.>Bark isn't muteMan of few words yeah, though kinda the same thing functionally when they still mostly have him communicate in visual cues.>Honey isn't a pedophileCorrect.
>>556625858>westoids have shit opinionsIt's almost like they should've never worked on Sonic to begin with
>>556625740In general >>556626004Second one is nice. But I don't like the pinball one
it's a vice
>>556626004I didn’t know Frontiers had a pinball section. Neat.
>>556625874Bean IS a little eccentric, according to AM2.
>>556625715>He speaks like "DUUUUH FWOOGGGY"That's localization, dumbass.
>>556626430iirc it's a mandatory puzzle that you've gotta go throughlasts quite a bit
>>556625874>Honey isn't a pedophileAnd she likes strong guys. She may be a nerd, but she doesn't like other nerds.
i could eat 100 chili dogs and shit them all out and it'll still be more appealing than satam and idw
THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONICI WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYINGI WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFOREI DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHITGENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
>>556627038>shitverfag
>>556627038this guy is either no more than 12 or severely autistic
>>556627083Silver is getting the recognition and love he deserved but never got and there's nothing you can do about it
>>556627038This isn't gonna stop them from selling way more than Sonic. Mario's just money, in every facet. Games, movies, merch. Cultural relevance in Japan.
>>556626689Where does the idea that Honey likes strong guys come from? Some sources say she "might" like Sanman, but it suggests it more of a Rouge/Knuckles kind of a dynamic.Or are you talking about Henrietta?
>>556627083>nigger humorGo back to ghetto Zone
>>556627367>Silver is getting the recognition and love he deserved but never got and there's nothing you can do about itWhere? Social media? We've already proven time after time that doesn't translate to sales.
>>556627083What does unseasoned even mean context wise?
>deservedNepobaby thinking.
https://youtu.be/22pUx_Om0Gs?si=aXP01ButrvvAm0my
>>556627567He has 5 plushies, super figues, lego figures, everyone wondering about him in rumble slop next to Amy and Blaze, what are talking about even?
>>556627567His popularity surge on social media was very visible and is bound to get Sonic Team's attention and to put pressure on them to use him more
>>556627819Buzzwords are not a gotcha, it's more of cope.
>>556627890And they're niche. Just having things out doesn't mean anything if they're not selling big. Especially since everyone else has that stuff. Dude's there for filling space.>>556627946Yeah nah.
>>556628093Wasn't a gotcha, just an observation.
>>556627946Blazefags worst nightmare: A Year of Silver. I hope everybody likes 06.
>>556627396sega wishes they had this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF40NLLSr0s
>>556624897I don't really like how most of the soundtrack is composed of heavy synth and electronic instruments, although I guess it makes sense given the context Sonic having to go into a cyber world to rescue his friends. They all end up sounding too samey for me personally but there are still some nices tunes there.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu9IPsIPZPshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub33IMpnb6shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP3K-ybKpd8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF16PLPDqWI (really like this one)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNLEqECDgyAThen there are the miscellaneous tunes like the pinball theme and shooter segment that one anon posted earlier and thesehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtiGNV9fyb8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOLzrv6H-t8 (this one honestly sounds like Undertale music in the beginning) Also music that plays during the open zone segments is alright. They're nice to listen to while playing but I can never really remember how they go from memory. Although the final DLC update did give us a nice little theme for Sonic that does a good job of portraying his free as the wind, carefree nature.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9k9QGANkJMOverall I'd say it's a pretty solid soundtrack with a decent amount of genre variety but I hope the next game leans away from the electro/synth-heavy sound.
>>556627617Schizophrenic miserable pajeets think that Black people cook better than white people so Silver having black peoples food (coleslaw) makes him more white go figure, the brainrot of 'Silver is le 06 bad' has made everyone retarded towards him.
>>556628219>Blazefags
>>556628140>they're not selling bigWho the fuck said he's going to the red carpet are you actually retarded nigger?
>>556614602Please answer!
>>556628341Blazefags have the most retarded reasons to hate other characters, most common one is "they take her spotlight" that's why they hate the character that was made for a story while she forces herself in it.
>>556628629It's either gay woowoo new age stuff, or you know... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_mePjkQW_c
>>556627446>Where does the idea that Honey likes strong guys come from?It was in one of her bios. Had a screenshot of it from awhile back but I don't know where it is. Gonna try looking for it.>>556628518>Who the fuck said he's going to the red carpet are you actually retarded nigger?Are you? You were talking about him being popular and now you're trying to pretend that doesn't matter? This shit needs to sell. If his stuff's barely scraping by, he's not popular. Get the picture?
>>556628629qrd, some people see it an unnecessary aspect of Amy's character to suddenly bring back into prominenceto many, her interest in tarot is just a cool trivia thing, like Tails's full name
>>556628219Blazefags worst nightmare is anything relating to Silver honestly, last night they had an abysmal melty and false flag over Silver getting a channel art, just a channel art
>>556628758>Blazefags have the most retarded reasons to hate other characters, most common one is "they take her spotlight"In all the time I've been here, I have never seen this. All I've seen are dudes like you making up an imaginary enemy to despise.
>>556627468Awww did I upset the mayo packet? Cry harder faggot
>>556628820>This shit needs to sell. If his stuff's barely scraping by, he's not popularBlack and white type of vision is very fucking moronic, he's not popular and he's not unmarkatable either, he's just decent, read a book Blazefag.
>>556628938This is what happens when you hire lorefags. You get dialogue that reads like a wikia article and random traits become overblown.
https://youtu.be/8MdhsCeasBQ?si=OvRo10inDnV7cHhQ
>>556629145Funny how the hobo who licks oil and salt on everything like a caveman talk about hating mayo, i'm not even white and i can smell insecurity from a continent away.
>>556629204>he's not popularCool. Glad we agree. Cheers.
>>556628964lurk more they hated Marine last week because she doesn't give Blaze enough spotlight, it's their entire quirk.
>>556628964They will see "I don't like Blaze/Silver" and immediately jump to a boogieman, regardless of the context discussed. Talking about either character in any capacity gets kneecapped because there's one or two retards that will screech until the conversation centers their shitposting.
>>556629553>they hated Marine last week because she doesn't give Blaze enough spotlightBro, most people hated her because she was annoying.
Shadow doesn't care about Rouge. He sees her as a tool useful for achieving his goals and that's it.Rouge is constantly manipulating Shadow and exploiting his ptsd to get what she wants.Sega has stated they aren't even friends. Shadow will only ever love Maria. Rouge was literally made for Knuckles.Shitougefags are manchildren self-inserting as the edgy school shooter with a busty gf. They don't give a shit about the characters.
>>556629393>projectionYup. Whitey triggered
>>556628629>>556628786>>556628938It's Ian Flynn's way of replacing her love for Sonic and her hobbies for cooking, shopping, and doting on cute animals because he thinks a female character can only be good if she's a kickbutt strong female character/girlboss
>>556629660 (me)
>>556629648I wish i was white so i can make you beg for a job honestly.
>>556629625>Shadow doesn't care about Rouge. He sees her as a tool useful for achieving his goals and that's it.>Rouge is constantly manipulating Shadow and exploiting his ptsd to get what she wants.This is thier dynamic in X, but is there any evidence of this in the games? Not doubting your assessment, just curious.
>>556629660It's like those dumb bitches who hate on certain female characters just because they think they lack "agency". If she's not always doing her own thing separate from whatever the protag's doing, then she's not an actual character supposedly. They don't get how fiction works. It's like they think these characters are real.
>>556629660>>556629869I don't see how that makes sense because being into tarot is still a mostly feminine thing to do in the eyes of most people, and I don't understand how it negates any of those traitsthis reads like conspiracy
>>556629660>It's Ian Flynn's way of replacing her love for Sonic and her hobbies for cooking, shopping, and doting on cute animals because he thinks a female character can only be good if she's a kickbutt strong female character/girlbossI thought he was just mad that Sega made him get rid of sonally
>>556614118>Silver and Blaze with Ariem for some reason Can those two bozos get their own teams that make sense?
>>556629850The tweet was deleted because the poster was a pedophile btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oA741VIVfw
>>556630046It's a category anon not a team
>>556629625>shipfag masquerading as a characterfagdouble kill yourself
>>556628629You know my first answer was just a joke but I’ve thought about it more and >>556629209 makes a good point. You see some of you may not know this, but Spider-Man’s favourite food are wheat cakes, specifically his Aunt May’s. Now this was established very early on and has been brought up in the comics throughout the series. However it isn’t something that’s brought very often, just a little detail that is so trivial it doesn’t even make it into other media. The point being that Peter Parker has a lot more going for him as a character than what his favourite food is; he doesn’t go to McDonalds and say ‘Man I really wish I could have my Aunt May’s wheat cakes instead’. In comparison you’ll be sure to know that Knuckles just loves grapes or that Tails just loves mint ice cream because any time food is brought up they just have to put it out there, because ‘It’s a nod to the hardcore fans’ as opposed to jangling keys in front of your face and reducing characters to even flatter, one-note beings.
>>556629209Well that's what happens when you hire people who are fans, first and foremost. Hesse was a fan but he kind of stumbled into working with ST. But he was hired primarily because of his talent. Ian ALWAYS wanted to work with Sega, and as a fan most of his writing is done to to signal to other fans not just that he's one of them, but that he's better than them. If you've ever interacted with trekkies or other similar nerds (Star Wars, Harry Potter, Capeshit etc.) you'll understand perfectly. Conversations and discussion can very quickly turn into a dick measuring contest over who's more autistically obsessed with the franchise, i.e. "who can recall the most hyper-specific trivia". It's all about who's the biggest, most devoted fan. Ian's references aren't just him winking to the audience, it's bragging. He's showing you his sonic fan badge.
>>556629920>This is their dynamic in XOnly in season 2 really. They're much more amicable in season 3.
>>556630249sonamyfags still pretend to be windfags as a means of attacking pairings that threaten sonamy
>>556629931This is the product of feminism>>556630002>>556630002>Tarot is mostly a thing enjoyed by progressive astrology girls in college that are into this whole alternative spirituality nonsenseFTFY>>556630008He's also a Sonally schizo. That's why he tries to get rid of Amy's love for Sonic
>>556630046They can form team vault
>>556630606The franchise would start to heal if these two died together
How to ACTUALLY write a Sonic story>How do I write in characterJust make sure every character you trait is in the games who cares >How do I come up with a plot Steal the plot of a shonen anime or american action movie and then put Sonic characters in it. Sega does it so why shouldn't you?>Who is the villain?Take Chaos and give him a different gimmick from water. The only Sonic villain with deep motives was Merlina. If you want a Merlina just copy a villain from another franchise and adjust them slightly>Character developmentIf you try to develop Sonic's personality there are people who willll actually try to murder you so just reset Tails back into a pathetic coward and develop him
Sooo, what do we think of Mecha Sonic's Scrapnik redesign? I'm a big fan of it personally but I'm not sure what the community at large thinks of it.
>>556630349the issue here is frequency, that's the reason Im drew the wiki trivia section comparisonif Amy being into tarot was more regular and not something that was suddenly brought back and given prominence, this wouldn't be an issue>>556630583>Tarot is mostly a thing enjoyed by... girlsyou've repeated what I said, that additional context was not necessary to the conversation
>>556630753>just reset Tails back into a pathetic coward and develop himOr use an OC.
>>556630753>Character developmentI'd rather make a new character to develop while keeping the characters as they are instead of messing up a canon character like Sonic Team did with Tails
>>556630835It’s really cool, robes are cool.>>556630838Naturally, I just wanted to point out that it’s a problem beyond just Amy and too many writers mistake depth for quality.
>>556631069*depthBy which I meant to say details.
>>556630835Didn't everyone love scrapnik
>>556630046The only need a Power type, someone who counters SilverLike how Knuckles is the unmovable mountain who counters Sonic's free moving windand Omega who was created to counter and defeat Shadow, which he does in 06
Give Belle a tattered cape. If it worked for Silver it can work for her
>>556630835NO CAPES!They get in the way and just exist for the aura factor
If you really want to be autistic, then Tails' character was reset into being an insecure coward way back in Sonic Adventure and even the original Sonic 2. It's just who he is, don't expect any major changes in the next game.
>>556631173They actually need to be on separate teams, they both cover their own stories, them being together will make them constantly step on each others toes
>>556631241I agree, tattered capes always work to make a character look cool. Give one to Motobud too.
>>556631361He's not an insecure coward dude he's just a kid
The characters are what i want, sega changes personalities every time lizuka has a shower.
>>556630098that word doesn't mean shit these days retard
>>556631173>Omega who was created to counter and defeat ShadowNarratively, Omega was essentially Eggman's magnus opus, the best thing Eggman will ever hope to create but couldn't truly control. It's in his name.Him being able to defeat Shadow in 06 was more for narrative convenience in my opinion, but one I don't mind because it also implies that Eggman has surpassed Gerald in a way.
>>556631570kids can't be insecure or cowardly?
>>556631626The characters are what SoJ wants and what they say in japanese
>>556631386>I BET IT'LL BREAK IF I SLAM INTO REALLY HARD
CanonIGGERS are retarded, like deep mental retardation.>YES SAAR THIS IS CANON SAAR NOW BUY MY GAEM AND MERCH SAAR
>>556631686The fuck does that mean?
>>556627083>Even Sonics fanbase is willing to attack it's own side Silverschizos are a whole entire breed of useless.
>>556631930sex with bifauxnen
>>556631686It means if you hate Shirubah you suck
https://youtu.be/h7tnJnkS8u8?si=EQEdRLGNxKh29Ahf
>>556631930Does Tangle actually speak boyishly in the Japanese translations of IDW?
Why did Underground get a japanese sub release and not satam? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=230blIDECIU
>>556631714>Praising Aaron WebberThanks for confirming this was made somewhere in the mid-2010s, as it felt cringe to read.
>>556632697because IT'S SONIC UNDERGROUND!!!
>>556632697their vendetta against 90s American sonic is funny and sad at the same time
>Only DiC show that doesn't turn windfags into terrorists >Only DiC show with a JP release (But no dub) >Still on Netflix even though it has Ken Penders characters in it Undergroundchads now is our time
>takes control of a fleet shaped after marine life>becomes a dragon, heavily associated to water in Japan>the transformation uses data from Chaos, made of water>quote references Leviathan, sea monster from the bibleWhy did they associate Metal with water of all elements? I don't even think it's to play with Sonic's water weakness since at no point Sonic feels threatened nor in special disadvantage due to Metal's transformations.
>>556631750Sure, but not to the point of cowering against basic enemies when he’s established to not do that
>>556632825ye
>>556633209metal sonic will never know what it's like to have an erection, he's basically a woman
>>556633209Because of Perfect Chaos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVT3t5eyEs0
>>556614118Sonic Heroes 2 looking good
>>556633869Perfect Chaos is only one of the lifeforms he's copying tho
>>556628302You are right, some of them sound way too similar, but I like the ones you posted. Mostly this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNLEqECDgyA
>>556634326Kit Harvey Oswald
Sonic balls deep inside Surj
Surge blushing when Sonic says she's beautiful
>>556634657He also copied Froggy(Chaos' tail) and a Chao's data too.I never noticed that this newspaper seems to use edited text from the US Sonic 1 manuals (?) as filler copy. Weird.
Spanking Surge when she is naughty
Sonic stuttering when seeing Surge with her quills down.
>>556634326kek
>Watched Marty Supreme right nowYou wish Sonic was nearly as windy as Marty. Sonic never was as unlikable and free
>>556634326
>>556636273LOL
>>556634435IT sucks that fans complained and now we can't have Team Classic.
>>556636273Keeeek
>>556634326>>556636273KIT WTF
Sonic ripping Surge's shirt open and sucking her nipple
>>556636273Voting for the Egg Party
>>556634326>>556636273Somebody resurrect Jim Garrison quick
>>556635694Those were to get Chaos data anon, it's the same thing
>>556631915>>556632247>she was only 15 years and 364 days old you sick fuck!!
>>556613048We literally have Woefag in this general too and nobody seems to mind
Surge seems like she would be awkward during sex. She broke down crying after having to fight Sonic.
>>556631714Strange to see this meme edit I made over 8 years ago.
>>556638042thank you for your contribution, anon
>>556638096Maybe I should make a new, updated one.
>>556637947Given how much she (and Kit) were raped by Starline (both literally and metaphorically), you're lucky she even fucks at all.
>>556635694That's so weird.The Palm device is probably referring to the Palm PDA that was around during the early 2000's. SEGA actually ported over some of their GameGear games on to it, including Sonic 1. Given that these ports were released in early 2003, and Sonic Heroes was released later in the same year, one can guess that someone at Sonic Team took the manual from this Palm Port of Sonic 1 and copied the story's text on to the newspaper. Why the Palm PDA's manual instead of the OG Genesis or GameGear manual? Who knows? Maybe it was a really popular item back in the day over in Japan. I don't know why it's called the Palm Gear in the newspaper either. What a weird little piece of trivia I never knew about until now.
This but Sonic
>>556638401>literallyWhat? This is a franchise meant for kids. Where did they allude to rape?
Southern CrossIs twinkling and watching usFar beyondSo far away from us.
>>556638682The part where Starline shoved his technology up Surge and Kit's asses against their wills.
>>556636136
>>556638682It was rape
>>556638850They're never going to clarify if Surge and Kit are androids and cyborgs because they wrote themselves into a corner by trying to ignore one of SEGA mandates.For all intents and purposes, it's not inaccurate to say that the entire Imposter Syndrome side series is completely noncanon.
>>556632697The way I understand it Underground is more profitable due to the songs.>one pitch was to make it a SatAM spinoff starring Tails who formed a traveling rock band with Bunnie and Antoine.
>>556638850>>556639010I see nothing being stuck up their ass. You could say it’s metaphorical, but rape is a very very strong word as it has to do with sex. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
>>556639152Doesn't help that Evan wrote Surge as a rape victim with traumatic hallucinations. Sega is gonna have to whitewash the shit out of all of this if they ever want to use Surge proper.They already gave up on Kit.
>>556639463Evan never grew out of that Deviantart soap opera mentality.
Pretty sure this is one of the only times they're explicity called Cyborgs
>556639412>"It wasn't rape. It was forcibly inserting foreign objects into a person's body against their will. Totally different."No U
>>556630349Amy being a fortune teller is not a "favorite food trivia" thing. Sonic CD's manual listed it as her "specialty", it's what she is and what she does, and its the basis for her even meeting Sonic. The fact is, it SHOULDN'T be some trivia thing in the first place, and the only real reason any of you treat it like it is is because you don't take the mysticism seriously despite this being a fictional cartoon world filled with supernatural stuff from the very beginning.
>>556639740Its more like medical malpractice than rape. Like stealing someone’s kidney.
>>556639152>For all intents and purposes, it's not inaccurate to say that the entire Imposter Syndrome side series is completely noncanon.The one-offs and side series for IDW were already being taken that way. Scrapnik Island can't happen at any part of the main comic series.None of this is going to matter anyway because there's going to be a 'reset' done in issue 99 and issue 100 is going to be the leap off for a new continuity.
>>556639675Not canon by word of God (SEGA). Per mandates, Starline cannot create something that Eggman can't. If you want someone to blame as to why their backstory doesn't make sense then you can point the finger at Flynn because he admitted he knew better but was still trying to sneak it past SEGA.
Nevermind that IDW in general is seen as non-canon nowadays but yes, the mini-series stuff is "canon" to the rest of the IDW comics. They released a reading order a long time again....Of which the only copy I have of it is with Penders seething about it.Also, the minis, annuals, and various other extras are in the trades & hardcovers. There is an order of events. It just doesn't line up with the games cause the IDW editors fucked up.
>>556639220>SpoilerNTA sauce, please?
My tier list
>>556640735And replying to my own post, the list decided to delete where I put tails. I put tails at ‘Would be friends with’.
Sonia pulling a 2000s Amy and ruining an innocent's day and putting them in danger just because she's feeling jealous https://youtu.be/dkGBJbjAQxw?si=vo_P2g3lTa6rrgY-&t=695
>>556641009Okay?
>>556640347Mentioned around here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTuMgsR38ng&t=6725sOne of the early season 3 ideas was to piggyback off Underground
>>556640338>Bad Guys to Imposter Syndrome is considered 6 different volumes.I....what the fuck? Isn't Test Run literally just 2 issues before it directly leads to Zeti Hunt? That's not even a proper volume that's just filler.
Hugh Morris
>>556641385what the fuck is wrong with this show
Sally's voice goes from little girl high pitch to gravely grandma in a second. One of them must be fake.
>>556641695Ben Hurst wanted SatAM season 3DiC wanted a musical The French wanted hedgehog ecchi
>>556641572I've noticed that IDW on social media advertises the Sonic comic by implying that it's bigger than it actually is.That same image suggests that MV was over 7 volumes long when realistically it's less than 16 issues long.
>>556641868https://files.catbox.moe/b6bujh.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/awm5xb.mp4
>>556620390Why didn't Realdash ship his OC with this bitch? They're both gray and boring as fuck.
Isn't it funny how SEGA went from shilling Kuremu to vaulting her?
>>556642334are you okay bunnie
>>556641572That's what the trade is named. Collects four issues.
>>556642535No thoughts in bnuuy heads
>>556642535 The animators of this show can't decide if she has whiskers or not
>>556642535its funny how bunnie is almost perfectly chill in this show at all times. Nothing gets to her except being reminded that she's a robot freak.
>>556640735You wouldn't even chill with Big? just sit around comfortably next to a lake? in the calm sunny day where the wind blows threw the water and the grass behind you sings? where you wait patiently talking and reminiscing about how beautiful life is and once you have a catch you know your day is going to become even better?
FWOGGY
>>556642920No
>>556642981seriously now who is fatter? whisper or big?
>>556640338I can`t help but laugh at those numbers.
Japanese animated westnic can't hurt you
>>556640049>Scrapnik Island can't happen at any part of the main comic series.For real?
>>556643432Big is one of those fat people who are just naturally big and not really unhealthyWhisper is the biggest glutton known to man and has grown even larger than Big
>>556642880>its funny how bunnie is almost perfectly chill in this show at all times.Her and Sonic make more sense than him and Sally.
>>556643461KEK
Yuji Naka once told me that SEGA was gonna troll meI got a few screws loose in my headHe was looking kind of dumb with Kishimoto and IizukaWearing a hat with the letter "M" on their foreheadWell, the flops start comin' and they don't stop comin'Breaking the rules and games hit the shelves not runnin'Didn't make sense to make games for funYour brand gets big, but your fandom goes dumbSo much to ruin, so much to fuckSo, what's wrong with if it's shit and sucks?They'll never know if we don't know (know)Writing against our own established lore.Hey now, you're a SEGA all-starTurn your games off, don't playHey now, you're a SEGA all-starDrop the rebrand, before launch day(And all those autist's gold)Only Nintendo's stars break the mold
>>556643461That's pathetic. Damn. And fans say this shit's popular?
i miss him like you wouldn't fucking believe
>>556643776that's if you replace satamnic with windnic
>>556644212>Irish themedFirst Sonic character to be a confirmed alcoholic?
>>556644272Exactly.
Um
>>556644423for ants
>>556644423Rougegg
Why are women so fucking sexy? Who gave them permission to be like that?
>>556644540i've never watched mha, is this chick an actual good character or is she just fapbait
>>556644383Let grasses grow and waters flow in a free and easy wayBut give me enough of the fine old stuff that's made near Galway BayAnd policemen all from Donegal, Sligo and Leitrim tooWill give them the slip and we'll take a sipOf the rare old Mountain Dew
>>556644539Still you see the concept even if it is smol
>>556644702Imagine if Sonic was a minor character in a different story who just showed up for hype moments and aura and that's basically what she's like
>>556644640god or science or somethingnature
>pink tagged ships are in the top 100 ships on Tumblr
>>556644849Dropped too many redpills for the masses. She had to be put down.
>>556644816I see... not that bad i suppose
>>556644702The whole series is fujobait with a very annoying main character that can`t stop crying and had a dependency on the guy that bully him.
>>556644941When will /sthg/ come to the conclusion that the majority of contentfags in this fanbase are fags and lefties
>>556638401>>556638850>>556639675Using some of the dialogue in this for my project pitch. I have to rewrite the lines to fit the context
>>556645169A pitch? Are you pitching something to Sega?
>>556644849She really was our girl.
>>556644849They killed her for telling the truth
So IF Bunnie were to be added somewhere, she can't be a cyborg? If so, then the mech idea's the only way.
>>556645074https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cyblGH5wwwthis is basically all of her screentime and characterization
>>556645373Eventually
>>556645087>a very annoying main character that can`t stop cryingHmmmnn...
>>556644849Need a Sticks edit of this image.
>>556645648You know where or who you would have to go to pitch something? I been wondering about that lately.
>>556644816>Imagine if Sonic was a minor character in a different story who just showed up for hype moments and aura and that's basically what she's likeShe's way too high energy to be Sonic, my guy.
>>556645527Her cybernetics are fine it just can't be Eggman who does it
>>556645597neatcrazy chick
>>556645889Sorry to say that it's basically having connections, being in the right place at the right time, and oftentimes having to suck ass to people you can't stand
>>556645597>first 20 secondsSurge and Eggman
>>556645991>Her cybernetics are fine it just can't be Eggman who does itThat's not it though. Cyborgs are fine if Eggman did it. Anyone else doing it is off-limits.
>>556646140Oh well. Guess I’ll just stick to being independent then.
>>556645527> So IF Bunnie were to be added somewhere, she can't be a cyborg?She could be The first failed Starline experiment
>>556646227Eggman has never done roboticization. He modified Infinite who he was using as a weapon.
>>556646360>Eggman has never done roboticizationNot talking about that. Talking about bionics and shit. IE replacing her arm and legs with robo-limbs.
I just want to see Zavok absolutely raping Surge cvz she's a cyborg and Zeti control themZeti in IDW are great, they even beat Tangle and WhisperAbsolute kino
Sonic = Kakashi
>>556646607+ Tony Hawk.
So are cyborgs allowed? Or was it genetic experiments like Shadow that weren't allowed?
>>556646479> I just want to see Zavok absolutely raping Surge cvz she's a cyborg and Zeti control them<_<
>>556646723It's so weird that the 2000s Tony Hawk games perfectly nailed Sonic writing for no reason.
>>556646778Sonic little pink nipples...
Surge was given a small wire that stimulates sexual pleasure whenever she hits Sonic.It's all she has now.
>>556645813
>>556646723They should have made a game where the world is about to end and you play as Tony Hawk and he still acts like this while saving it from evil gods or aliens or something
>>556647323I think the closest thing to that is the New Orleans level in THUG2
>>556647323Fuck yeah
>>556647410Sonic could have saved Station Square if he just did a Christ Air over Eggman.
>>556647483In the name of the Hedgehog, the Fox and the Chaos Emeralds
Bun!
>>556646882https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcLTX_Wr7kU&t=329>Q:So now that we know Surge and Kit's origins, could you tell was what stuff about it got changed by Sega?Ian: The original pitch was that they were full on synthetic beings, not just robots but androids of such a high caliber that they were basically living beings. Reploids, more or less. Something on the cusp between synthetic and organic. Sega was like "we don't want Starline to be that advanced in his tech" so they proposed the endoskeleton cyborg angle.Kyle: Which is darker and more horrifying.Ian: Yeah and then they walked back saying they didn't want us to actually depict that or explain it too clearly because it was too dark, BUT YOU TOLD US TO DO IT! [Laughter]Kyle: I think once they realized what they asked they're like "Uhhhh, maybe not. Nevermind. Can you write around that?"-Basically, nothing from complete scratch, it seems,
>>556647941>Basically, nothing from complete scratch, it seems,So no homunculi or cyborgs. Mech it is.
>>556647165yeah Tails, why did you act like a little bitch in Forces?
Rate it>Sally the genius inventor and leader of the team. SatAM-based.>Bunnie was afflicted with NIDs and needs the mech suit Sally made for her to stay alive.>Nicole was Sally's dying childhood friend she made immortal through cyberspace.The Freedom Trio. There, now they work in the games.
>>556648167They forced me to or else they would've sent me to Eggstein island
>>556648387Fine with it but what would you do with Rotor?
>>556647648So true
omg just kiss
>>556648387It's funny there is an episode where Eggman builds a space station to use for spying and as soon as Sally sees it flying in the sky she says "It must be some kind of spy craft" and then Rotor has to whip out a giant space telescope to confirm it for himself
>>556648572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHPoPS9WicIAbsolution | Official Trailer | New Silver The Hedgehog Series
>>556648767Oh thats where this image came from.
>>556648079>An android is a robot, built from scratch, to mimic humanoid appearance. A cyborg is a living creature, augmented with robotic parts.
>Rotor builds an advanced hairclipper to help Sonic after his hair got frizzed>It malfunctions immediately>That time Rotor spent an entire episode fixing a light bulb system People used to argue about this guy competing with Tails
>>556648767exploring Silver's destroyed future is slopGive him a bright one
>>556648767Oh, cool, another fan project. Let's hope this one won't die because of unnecessary drama.
>>556648912
>>556648495>what would you do with Rotor?Nothing. Sally's Bulma-tier so he's unnecessary. The Freedom Trio works better since Bunnie and Nicole are both Sally's friends she's kept alive with her genius, through both hardware and software. Rotor and Antoine can't fit in that mold.
>>556648984it appears they took that from Archie where Rotor is actually very competent
>>556647941Ian can`t understand some shit should be >impliedLike how Gerald played god to make Shadow and then wanted to destroy everything. Maria and Gerald story is actually very dark. It`s not like Sonic can`t have dark tones on it, they just can`t be too explicit and should just remain something fans should find out looking into it.
>>556649092
>>556648984Meta era Tails absorbed Sally and Rotor at the cost of himself
https://youtu.be/uLz37i0zOXk?si=-ptoSy_e_hyxeTQ6&t=1022>Rotor is too weak to pull people out of a tar pit>Sonic isn't
>>556649179Didn't one of the ST guys say that Ian doesn't understand subtlety?
>>556649065As long as Rich or AWFs names aren't attached it should stand a good chanceAlthough neither of them like Silver due to their waifu obsession so it should be safe
>see Sonic>think Japanese love animals>see behind the scenes of Milo and Otis
>>556649525Damn, this guy sucks.
>>556649542meanwhile that same ST guy when making a "subtle" japanese rewrite>The "doctor"? I wonder who that might be...
>>556649525This shit is cracking me up. So if you take a purist approach to all the SatAM characers, Sally gets elevated to tech genius and Rotor gets demoted to just a scrubby mechanic dude .
>>556649525Every clip I see of SatAM Rotor makes him look lame as fuck
>>556649769Japanese frontiers is so bad that I don't believe the people who defend it actually thought about it aside from hating the west
>>556649672>see Sonic>think Japanese love animalsBut they don’t love Sonic
>>556649542That was Kishimoto in regards to the Frontiers script, which also had a controversial Japanese localization written by himself (the usual game writers were busy with other writing duties).Ian isn't the best writer in the industry, but Sega's process for writing scripts for Sonic is very unintuitive and I think other staff at ST have complained about it as well.
>>556644849>Sonic: Sticks, why are you so bummed? You won.>Sticks: Well, let’s just say these theories aren’t as fun when they become common irrefutable knowledge, not to mention, NOBODY IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT!
>>556649796I think Rotor is a proper self insert. more proper than chris>some loser who found himself friends with Sonic and other smart / powerful mobians and tries to make himself helpful so that he is not a dead weightThat's what most of you would be like in Rotor's situation. you don't want to hang with Sonic, but you don't want to be a dead weight. and there's the looming danger of getting captured and being turned into a robot.
>>556649125>Sally dreamed of being a hero. To fix anything and save everyone.>Bunnie dreamed of a life of freedom and adventure, but became plagued with a fatal disease that killed that dream. Now she needs Sally's mech suit to stay alive.>Nicole dreamed of becoming a scholar but suffered a fatal accident. Sally digitized her mind and sent her to cyberspace. Nicole's body dies, but her digital mind thrives.For a team called The Freedom Trio, are they truly free?
Manic is also a mechanic
>>556650309This actualy makes sense with Rotor's writing since every single time he accomplishes something the other characters are like "holy shit Rotor actually did it"
>>556650309https://youtu.be/uLz37i0zOXk?si=WLqvXm8LIc8QzeU7&t=1318
>>556650309 (Me)You want** to hang out with sonic.>>556650682>>556650917If that was the intention, then Rotor was successful at doing what Chris sucked at 10 years before chris came to be and no one noticed.
>>556650512How good is he?
>>556651156
Why do I get a feeling this sudden desperate astrosurfing Sally > Rotor trolling agenda is being pushed by none other than Violet? Especially with posts like >>556648984 hallucinating there was such thing as Rotor fans in the first place.
>>556651298So they're literally just Team Sonic but siblings.
>>556651478Now why would the biggest Satam shill of the general do such a thing
>>556651546Team Sonic is sibling coded
>>556651478>hallucinating there was such thing as Rotor fans in the first place.ehm ehm>Rotor the walrus fanclubhttps://sonicsatam.com/thewalrusfanclub/rotorbio.htm
>>556651478Sally mogs Rotor's intelligence. That's the facts.
>>556651478I like Rotor and I think it was a shame that he wasn't given a fair shot to do anything, but it is weird that bullying him has been a trend recently
https://youtu.be/qks0Z8XO0QM?si=Bg5tPfV7lY3OhS6e&t=395SatAM Tails knows who his mother is.
>>556651783>Rotor represents the introspective side of ourselves, the side which navel-gazes and scrutinizes its own actions and thoughts. We all have a side to ourselves like this. It is the part of ourselves we use when we are going to be around other people (social anxiety) and it is also the part of us which doubts ourselves, and lacks confidence.>His physical form echoes this: his obesity and large teeth, although perfectly acceptable on a walrus, are physical characteristics considered unattractive in humans. Humans - typically women, but increasingly men - imagine themselves to be fatter and less facially attractive than they really are.>Rotor considers himself 'nerdy' and has honed his technical knowledge to a level that may suggest he uses it as a defense ("if I spend my time working on this, I don't have to face other people"). I think we have all done this from time to time.
>>556650438>Sally dreamed of being a hero. To fix anything and save everyone.https://youtu.be/JZujXs6JlwQ?si=-BD3UQoVMm7_GBgD
>>556651478Violet was correct that Archie and Satam Sally have different characterizations but tends to really push it with Satam. He wants everyone to like the Satam version of Sally and won't stop at just explaining that Sally doesn't act like her archie versions. I still remember his stint of insisting that SatAM was perfectly in-character for Sonic at the time. >>556652094Rotor has his own windfags?
Sonic is a mechatronics series
Mmmm fried chicken....what are you guys having tonight?
>>556652094>Rotor feels like a Sonicfag>Rotor looks like a Sonicfag>Rotor acts like a SonicfagSo Rotor IS a self insert. a very well executed one. much better than chris at that job. and that went unnoticed...Ben Hurst was a genius, man.
>>556645146I've known it for a long time and this is why the fujos and lefties must be bullied out of the fandom
>>556652413A Ben Hurst Sonic game would be the most depressing shit you've ever seen
>>556648572Shut up, fujo
Evan took Whisper and quite literally turned her into a fat, gay retard. That's not even an exaggeration, that's literally what she did to her.
My ass' been hurting so much recentlyhttps://youtu.be/EHcj0gLR6wsI absolutely adore the first minute, that ticking clock is so fucking goodBut after that this bass line comes and it's so BULLSHIT2:30 and the violin part is good too
>>556651892>but it is weird that bullying him has been a trend recentlyone of the trends of the current "shitposting cycle"may or may not span over multiple cycles like whisper memes.
>>556645146>the majority of contentfags in this fanbase are fags and leftie>shorts on Amy>reducing Rouge's boobs or only keeping them as a performative "titties arent sexual" statement >Constantly trying to make Sonic, Shadow, and Silver soft babies >SONIC WOULD AGREE WITH MUH POLITIK>Everything about Tangle and Whisper >Wanting Surge to be MORE masculine
>>556652786And this is a series for boys.
>>556652046If Satam is supposed to be the future version of earth what's with the fucking dinosaurs
>>556652987They're Mutant Birds that have returned to Dinosaur.
>>556652987evolution shit. chicken are related to dinos
>>556652376Calzones from Aldi
I've been catching up to IDW since I haven't really been interacting with it since Imposter Syndrome, I'm going through the Duo/Mimic shitshow and I feel like I'm going insane reading this dialogue.Whisper and Silver literally know Duo is Mimic. It's not even up for debate, they literally saw him shapeshifting. Why is Silver backing down on something he knows is true? Why doesn't Whisper tell Tangle and Lanolin to look at Duo's hands. Dude, did the editor not fucking proofread any of this shit?
JP Shadow is less rude
>>556611052Is it wrong that I'd like to be young again and be cuddled by RougeLike in this pic
>what if Sonic had a Clark Kent alter ego where he is a shy nerd Seriously?
>>556653454The writers were the proof-readers
>>556653454Evan admitted that she has been making shit up as she writes it for a while now.>did the editor not fucking proofread any of this shit?You expect there to be some kind of quality assurance for this comic?
I asked like months ago what's IC and OOC for Rotor, if anyone wanna talk about Rotor and no one gave a hoot. Now I'm meet with these... weird, posts.You guys wanna me do characterfaggotry or what?>>556651892Unfortunate, yes. But it's okay, Rotor will always be in our hearts. He's such a good, cool character, one that inspire and comfort us.
>>556653454Since you're experiencing it for the first time, how do you like how Tangle and Whisper's relationship is being depicted?
My only Rotor opinion is that his season 2 design is an insult worse than ugly movienic
>>556653510JP Shadow isn't angry either. He's soft-spoken and polite in spite of his strength and dangerous superpowers
>>556640735>Sage at neutral
>>556654029NTA, but I also am a first-timer.I fucking hate how they just forced them together without any substance to it. It's just, "We're two girls, now we're gay!"
>>556653827I'm not expecting shakesphearean levels of writing, I just want something servicable. The past two issues I've read, Silver doesn't even act like....I don't even know if I can call this "Silver" because he's not only acting retarded but he's directly doing shit that he would never do like being talked down out of something he knows for a fact is true.>>556654029I feel absolutely nothing towards it. It feels extremely weird and forced at times, especially when Tangle is actively doing shit she knows will trigger Whisper. I don't even know why Whisper would even like Tangle, no seriously, Tangle does literally nothing but constantly address or reference her PTSD stuff. I almost feel like she's being manipulative towards her but I can tell that the writer did not put that much thought into it.
>>556654583>...I don't even know if I can call this "Silver"That's Evan's husbando. also known as "uwuver"
>>556654583NOOOOOOOOOO DONT SHOW CLASSIC THE IPAD. KEEP HIM PURE
>>556653591>what if Sonic had a Clark Kent alter ego where he is a shy nerdNot Clark Kent, but Kid Sonic.
>>556651478He has a bit of a point but this is a bad thing in my opinion. SatAM's writing loves giving opportunities to Sally when they really should go to Rotor. Not just out of bias but because it gives Rotor little to work with otherwise. For example, the Deroboticizer is in Rotor's workshop, but we only ever see Sally working on it. When it breaks down, Sonic says Sally is the one who can fix it. I don't understand the purpose of doing this. We already know Sally is intelligent, this would be a great opportunity to give Rotor something to do other than just stand there. It's like the opposite problem from character bloat, it's Sally taking on traits that would actually serve another character.
>>556654703UWUver is a transgression against Silver's character
Reminder to clean your glasses regularly, they are dirty, that's disgusting anon
>>556654583>I almost feel like she's being manipulative towards her but I can tell that the writer did not put that much thought into it.
>>556654979OR you can cut the fat and get rid of him.
>>556655071It's not fair that Sonicfags get away with sending death threats to Ian over tying Sonic down but Silverfags aren't allowed to feel a little annoyed at Evan for turning him into a shy twink
>>556655093Especially if you have flakes.Never touch lenses directly, always handle them by temples (earpieces) and never, ever use dishwashing soap to clean them.
>>556655248Sally being capable of making things like the translator and the deroboticizer calls into question why she walks into so many dangerous situations unarmed and has to be saved. It's better to give that to another character.
>>556655313That’s all fine as long as I also get to send Toyoda a pipe bomb for this
>>556655594Sonicfags : THEY MADE OUR CHARACTER NOT A VIRGIN THE EVIL WESTSilverfags: THEY GAVE OUR CHARACTER MORE EMOTIONS THAN SCOWLINGTailsfags: Japan is literally raping us and you're complaining
>>556654915Ok. I admit I didn't see this comic. So it's like Shazam then
>>556655248what did Rotor ever do to you you fucking dick
Uncle Chuck's a mechanic too right?
>>556655594Foxboy needs correction
>>556644540
>>556656171he was high iq genius too
>>556656171he's proto-Gerald
the west used to make mechanic ocs and now they make lesbian ocs
>>556655723Right? At least those changes were made with the intent of doing something different and interesting. They raped our boy solely to make Sonic look better
I said a few days ago I was gonna be a trucker. Scratch that, I’m probably gonna have to put that on hold for a while.https://youtu.be/8bHZDJhosnI?si=wJXgVATBSI2ZXe_y
>>556656503all the cool guys left. you are now stuck with 2015 tumblrfags
>>556656503Japan used to make cool characters now they make everyone suck Sonic’s dick
>>556656503We do have a synthesis...
>>556656503I miss when the comic book industry was run by dudes that liked action, robots and boobs. Now it's all fags.
>>556656670>>556656834This is why I don't take anyone who makes fun of 2000s Sonic as supposedly being nothing but Butt Rock and grimdark, over -the-top edginess seriously. Sonic used to be cool until these Tumblr and Twitter goblins slithered their way into the comics. Now Sonic is just lame and gay. This is worse than the meta era
>>556653857Can you post another hot pic of Rotor? I need to touch myself
>>556647682
>>556656428Proto-Gerald is actually Ovi Kintobor from the US Sonic Bible. He was a good scientist who was trying to make the world a better place with the Chao Emeralds, but due to an accident became evil. In some continuities he actually created Sonic . Note the time when the Kintobor backstory was formally abandoned in Western territories.
>>556656983>>556657027Don't be violent, guyz
>>556657027The "Tumblr/Twitter goblins" were raised on 2000s Sonic, so what happened?
I feel like Swatbots should be canonized just because they look cool and they do kind of fit the aesthetic of a real generic soldier drone that Eggman would use to fight GUN and other armies rather than the goofy animal-like things that seem to specifically be designed to fight only Sonic and his friends in some specific way.Could even put it in that he retired using them after he made the E-100 series.
>>556657135
>>556657251Some of the most popular characters in Sonic are noncombatants that do not directly participate in the action.
>>556657354They slowly became soft, sensitive, and politically correct. They went from calling people faggots and homos as an insult to telling others "Don't say that! It's homophobic and bigoted! Love is love!" Don't forget picrel
>>556657354Some of them made it into the industry, you know the ones, and they dictated the direction of the audience’s reaction because they couldn’t sort out their personal affairs in private.
>>556657637This is just not true. Take Tails for example, he was at his best when he was allowed to be in the action, when he got taken out of it he became lame
>>556657637Who? Vanilla? Tikal? Those two are practically nobody
>>556657251bellegettingbeatenupbyfightingviperscharacters.webm
remember that no matter how bad it seems at least your favorite character isn't sticks, belle, or ariem
>>556658107At least Sticks was vindicated
>>556658107Sticks was right and is lovable.
>>556654054Foh' sure.>>556657095Sure!https://x.com/azeitcheka/status/1946634833104433485I wanna get rough and fucked so hard by Rotor on my ass...
>>556657414>and they do kind of fit the aesthetic of a real generic soldier drone that Eggman would use to fight GUN No they don't. lol The Adventure games and Heroes already showcased Eggman's progression from Classic styled badniks to more utilitarian humanoid bots. The Egg Pawns and their later iterations in Unleashed actually fit the theatrical style of GameEggman. Swatbots could be a GUN thing though, thier like the police and SWAT is a division of the police.
Jp side > En side.
>>556658312Nope
>>556658312You don't call them "Eggman's Robots" do you?
>>556655481>Sally being capable of making things like the translator and the deroboticizer calls into question why she walks into so many dangerous situations unarmed and has to be saved. It's better to give that to another character.Bro, Bulma does that shit all the time.>>556655965>Ok. I admit I didn't see this comic. So it's like Shazam thenNo, it's time travel. Shazam's a kid turning into an adult version of himself. Nicky's just getting replaced by his future self for a bit. It's a swap.>>556655972>what did Rotor ever do to you you fucking dickThe fuck is your problem?
what if egg man had a hard boiled attack i mean he is so fatlike haha
>>556658301They look better and more intimidating than whatever this piece of shit is supposed to be.
>>556658464Yep. Nobody talks about the movies here
>>556658552Because they’re tired of reminding themselves of how much Hollywood of all things BTFO’d them
>>556657796>Who? Vanilla? Tikal? Those two are practically nobody
>>556658517I call them Eggman no meka.
>>556657767Sure, but as you said Tails was "taken out of the action". That is a transition to noncombatant most of his fans don't agree with. But people wouldn't be too keen on Tikal coming back to life and becoming a girlboss.Amy's kind of going in this direction now.
>>556658526The difference between Bulma and Sally is that Bulma doesn't have another heroic mechanic character who she is robbing of screentime
>>556658752>Not "エッグマンのロボット"Fake JP purist.
>>556658849Ah, you're a Rotorfag. Yeah nah, fuck off.
>>556658845How many people would actually say someone like Tikal is their favorite character? And Amy is a bad example because she was always involved action-wise if not as much as others
I have a hard time taking Satam seriously because the action scenes are so watered down and weird. Even Underground has better action scenes. In SatAM a bunch of swat bots will surround Sonic and instead of actually fighting them he'll do something lame like spin around them with a rope and tie them up. It doesn't even have poor animation or anything, it's just lame.
>>556658552Nta but that’s because people here would rather talk about things they hate than things they like
>>556659041>And Amy is a bad example because she was always involved action-wise if not as much as othersThe issue is her personality. They want her to be some tough as nails bossbitch over the sweetheart ditz she was in the Adventure games.
>>556658107>remember that no matter how bad it seems at least your favorite character isn't sticks, belle, or ariemAll the Stucks superfans killed themselves.So did Belle's, for non-Sonic reasons.Ariem may or may not have ever had fans, I'm convinced Dream Team just never released and everyone who tells me otherwise isaying an elaborate joke.
Just remember, it could always get worse.At least they didn't make Sonic a Gaynigger from outer space. At least not yet.
>>556657796>Vanilla>nobodyYou`re really pushing it.
>>556659038>Why would someone who likes Rotor want Rotor to actually be a character and have distinct details from Sally that contribute to the plot
>>556659247No they don’t. You’re just projecting out your own fears for movie 4
>>556659128This is why anime got popular. Imagine being a kid watching Toonami and you see DBZ for the 1st time. Shit would blow your mind. The other action cartoons seemed lame as fuck in comparison.
>>556659038Dilate violet
>>556659247>>556659413Ian Flynn is trying to turn her into the former. You can clearly see this in the English version of Frontiers. He thinks the only good female characters are kickbutt females and girlbosses
>>556659316That's Shadow
>>556659542This is exactly why I couldn't get into SatAM as a kid. Every action scene is boring and lame while even the worst shittiest Sonic X episode has something fun.
>>556659591Were the NuDC kick butt under his writing?
>>556659405I really don't get the appeal. Way cooler characters and HE's your fave? How much of a lameass IRL are you to actually like that character?>>556659413>No they don’t. You’re just projecting out your own fears for movie 4I'm not talking about that. I actually like the future idea. And she looks great.
>>556658546That was supposed to be based on swatbots.
>>556658934>not エッグマンのメカGet on my level.
>>556659041I mostly used Amy because in the Adventure games she's mostly a civie that gets roped into things the more proactive characters are doing, especially in SA2. And in those game she basically functions the same way as Belle does; she runs from threats, gets captured, and just kind of clumsy keeps up with whatever adventure they end up falling into.Of course Amy, unlike Belle, gets to have her victories despite her inadequacies.(i.e. Amy could convince Shadow and Gamma to change while Belle gets smacked around by Metal) I think the writers just like torturing the OCs, lol.
>>556659789>NuDC?What's that? Haven't heard about it
>>556659887>ではない「エッグマンのメカ」
>>556659887My Lord in Autism...
>>556659887A whole pack a robots!
https://youtu.be/shl5F2CNcLk?si=Rz1PfxVRrYAS-tEQ&t=331Sally unprompted: I'm getting real tired of this westshit
>>556659542American cartoons used to be cool, til the 2010s rolled around. Its kind of a bummer that anime is seems mostly restricted for adults nowadays, but even then, the only anime I found to be genuinely funny (besides season 1 Pokemon) was Space Dandy. Too bad that only lasted 2 seasons.
You guys are so autistic, I hate all of you.
>>556660504Omega...
>>556660494sthg got hopeful when they heard that Sonic Prime was being made by the same guy as Generator Rex. They didn't see the fact that wildbrain only makes baby shows.
>>556660087New Diamond Cutters; Lanolin (boob sheep)'s team with Whisper and Tangle.>>556659789Has Flynn really gotten a chance to write the NuDC. It's mostly been Stanley right? The closest was when he had Whisper, Tangle, and Silver merc Mimic.
>>556660504
>>556660504I'm not autistic, I just have debilitating ADHD and share a lot of interests with autistic people, like Sonic and Pokemon. Luckily, I was spared from the super autistic interests, like dinosaurs, trains, and fire alarms.
>>556660504How could 100 Swatbots take on one(1) Omega?
HURRRRRRRRRRRRR WE SHOULD BAN EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKEDURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>556660889>I'm not autistic I just have all the symptoms of autism
IDW stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT9xmxkQgWo Metal Virus arc today
remember dulcy's abusive boyfriend
>>556657414SWATbots are such a strange design in early Sonic media, I thought they were roboticized humans. Whatever role they could've had in the games was completely supplanted by EggRobos and their successors.>>556658301>Swatbots could be a GUN thing though, thier like the police and SWAT is a division of the police.Better yet: a replacement for the Guard Robos from Sonic Battle...
>>556661071Now you’re thinking like Sega. Thats the spirit!
The Sonic franchise needs to get more degenerate. Millions of dollars from untapped gooners just waiting to be milked.
Reminder adhd and autism have the same neurological activations which means they're probably the same mental illness.
>>556661314this is like watching a grown man watch the horse show
As long as Ian is around, Sonamy is dead in the games. Maybe Shadamy will finally get a chance.
>>556661458Man I really miss 10 seconds ago when I didn't know that this existed.
>>556661653That's... abnormal in 2020s?
>>556661662>implying Ian won't write Shadow as an unlovable cunt because he's not alllowed to write archiedow
>>556661737It should be
>>556661852Shadow is an unlovable cunt.
>>556661662My god dude. Why do people care this much about romance in Sonic? Did the SatAM writers and Archie writers really fuck shit up that bad even though Amy is supposed to like Minnie Mouse but Sonic is too cool for that?
>>556661589But.But I have ADHD.It's not autism.
>>556661893Should, but isn't. Thanks Lauren Faust.
>>556660727>Has Flynn really gotten a chance to write the NuDC?Ian wrote the first 2 or 3 issues of the Eggperial City arc, after that was Evan. That probably explains why the NuDC almost felt like such a narrative non-presence since then.
Shadow is so bland and grumpy it's stupid, Maria wouldn't want him to be a friendless sadsack frowning forever but that's what he wants to be
>>556661951>Did the SatAM writers and Archie writers really fuck shit up that bad even though Amy is supposed to like Minnie Mouse but Sonic is too cool for that?Just Ian. Ken Penders and Karl Bollers both hated sonally and Sonic and Sally weren't dating in Satam.
>>556660957NoThe gorilla loses because it's not a match for 100 humans in the first place and even if it was it would get tired and eventually have a heart attack (gorillas have notoriously bad hearts, it's one of the most common causes of death among zoo gorillas)Omega IS more than a match for 100 swatbots and wouldn't get tired, so there's nothing stopping him from just plowing through all 100
>>556661906Ian's Shadow is an unlovable cunt when he isn't allowed to write archiedow
>>556661972It took me an embarassing amount of time to realize this was a meme for that Dutch cartoon.
The second entry of anything tells you the most about the people in charge. It tells you what they learned, and what their vision is going forward. Sonic 1-> 2. SA1 -> SA2. Unleashed -> Gens. So what do you guys think Sonic Team learned from Frontiers and the DLC?
>>556661951Nta Short answer: yes.
BAKA NANDA YO!
>>556657913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLflCxx28Qw
>>556661204I don't have all of the symptoms of autism. I have no issues looking people in the eyes. Sometimes I just...>flap my hands a little bit every now and then>have trouble with social cues>hate loud noises >can't touch velvet without freaking outOh... Well, my psychologist only diagnosed me with ADHD when I was young, if I had autism for real he would've diagnosed me. They test for everything when you're a kid.
>>556662259There is nothing lovable about normal Shadow, either.
>>556662094Yeah but they had that kiss in the finale and it was teased a lot throughout the show. It being cancelled on a cliffhanger didn’t stop others from trying to bring on that shit.
>>556662296>Unleashed -> Gens
>>556662110But HOW could a group of 100 Swatbots beat Omega? It can't be an impossible matchup.
>>556662478Kitfag, tell me your greatest dream
>>556662418ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA!!!
>>556662094>Ken Penders and Karl Bollers both hated sonallyAmazing that only two things that stopped sonally dying for good was the two writer's mutual hatred towards one another and hiring the one writer who actively wanted to ship the two...Sonic and Sally, not Penders and Bollers.
>>556662662Why can't it be?
>>556662018The post-Flynn NuDC do have narrative presence, but that is not necessarily a good thing.
>>556662715Yeah before Ian the only thing keeping the pairing alive was Penders and Bollers trying to block each others built up love interests.
>>556662418EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!?So..., sonna............!
>>556661314Great, now the Movietubers are getting into the comics
Goonic the Goonhog
>>556662876We're going to see uwuver popularized by never before
>>556625027GuileWinQuote thought he looked like SF's Alex but STF came before SF3.
>>556662829What did the NuDC manage to accomplish by themselves without the help of the game characters, then?
>>556662735Because a group of Zombots were able to beat Omega, so why not a group of Swatbots lol. But really it's just a writing prompt to try and make Swatbot cool and differentiate them from other robots in the series.
>>556661204>I'm not autistic I just have all the symptoms of autismAutism and ADHD share symptons. Big diff is the former makes you technical and very detail-oriented, and the latter makes you more creative and capable of thinking outside the box. Autists lack imagination, while those with ADHD are plentiful with it.
Troonic the groomhog.
>>556631549Ah, the Super Mario Bros Z merchant.
>>556662505>flap my hands a little bit every now and then>have trouble with social cues>hate loud noisesSame.>can't touch velvet without freaking outDon't got that but I do have claustrophia. It's why I wear wifebeaters over t-shirts.
>>556663061Nothing really and that's the problem, they waste page real estate.
>>556663086You know I almost put a (well not IDW Omega) insert in after I wrote that Omega is a match for the swatbots lolIf it's IDW Omega he loses without killing a single bot after he's hit by a strong breeze
>>556640124>Amy and Shadow have absolutely NO BOND even though she was the one who made Shadow do something good for once
people will talk about satam like it's the darkest and most deep sonic show with incredible environmental themes when it's just an inferior version of the rescuers with a conglomerate teenage mutant ninja turtle teaming up with a bargain bin bulma. sonic fans who avoid it simply for being ooc aren't missing anything.
>>556661164Cigs really loves Amy.
>>556662715I remember Bollers wanted Sonic to date Amy.
>>556631549(me)>>556663197As a fan of Mecha MKII who has never seen SMBZ, I am offended that you would call me that.SMBZ fans are anti-fans of the real Mecha MKII, they also hate Knuckles.
>>556663407I avoid it because it looks ugly.
>>556663407no sonic cartoon is all that good. they all coast on one important thing that separates it from the other sonic cartoons and nostalgia
>>556657913>>556662471https://files.catbox.moe/ldojvp.mp4
>>556663351>Amy and Shadow have absolutely NO BOND even though she was the one who made Shadow do something good for onceBy talk no jutsuing him. That's the extent of their interactions, aside from the hug. And that was meant for Sonic.
I don't care about SatAM oh my fucking godWHY does some fucking shitty 1993 italian unfinished cartoon still holds by the balls so many people in this fandom? Just fucking let it go
>>556662834Imagine an alternate universe>"Damnit you two, your constant bickering over some drama is affecting the writing and the sale, readers want adventures and action, not some petty high school drama.">"I'm not going to pair the hero with some nag who's complete opposite in chemistry.">"That's literally the only thing we can agree on, but we can't agree who he's going to end up with.">"Just use that pink mouse that Sega gave us, make her bit older with magic ring or something.>A few weeks later.>"Congratulations. You two just paired a 16 year old with someone half his age.">"But we did make her older with the magic ring like you suggested.">"And she looks just like in games.">"Yeah, you made her older, by whooping 4 years."
>>556663624This is Satam's best fight scene. The entire show is a slog. The characterization isn't insufferable like Archie but it doesn't really offer anything interesting.
>>556662834And even then it was barely a thing in Archie
>>556663648Too stiff and floaty.
>>556663648Of all the characters included in this, why Belle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NquH60Yw0ZE>>556662689Live life and experience every Megami Tensei games and the Multi-media Intelligence Transfer games lol
>>556662697>"How about we need it 'yellow temperança?'" -Said Amy after picking a tarot card.
>>556663339Yeah, IDW has been pretty tough on Omega, but that's probably a precedent set by Forces.I wonder why Omega fans aren't as offended with IDW as Shadow fans?
>>556663754I'm pretty sure Bollers always wanted to pair Sonic with Amy but Penders absolutely would not stand for it
>>556663792I want a scene where Sonic fights with his legs. Like using it like a sword, axe and club. And Capoeira.
>>556663497I thought he wanted him to date Mona mongoose? Or was it Fiona? I forgot which one was Pendres's creation and which was Bollers. (Unless both were Ken's)
>>556663669Point still stands.
>>556661653Nah watching Comic dubs is worse.
>>556663868nta but it is really funny that there's two characters who's only sonic appearances are in cameos or spinoff games and belle is the one who sticks out. nobody likes belle.
>>556663967There's like 5 Omega fansWhen your character is too minor you simply don't have much power in complaining nor you have the willpower to continue for something so minor
>>556663976Ken gave so many interesting characters but his shipping autism just killed any chances for peace.
>>556663792yes anon the cartoon is dark and edgy and it's fags love it for that thing it does but looks stupid and boring to people that don't care for it. not really any different from the other fags and their sonic cartoons
>>556663754>"Yeah, you made her older, by whooping 4 years."Archie made her 16.>>556664064It doesn't. Shadow's autistic and a Mariasexual. And Amy will always love Sonic. The 2 of them are never gonna be a thing.
>>556664224Every autist that works on Sonic has at least one fatal flaw (or in some cases they're just all flaws)
>>556663872I respect your dreams
>>556663868Chroniclesfag is an everythingfag. Doesn't matter if they're niche or even noncombatants.https://files.catbox.moe/698r1c.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/6s6j2a.mp4
>>556663754Sonally is weird because I swear the people who love it the most never actually seem to have read Archie or watched SatAM. Duofag and Violet are the only notable Sonallyfags in this general. Duofag did not know who Alicia Acorn was and Violet repeatedly uses the fact that Sonic and Sally weren't dating in SatAM as an argument. Sonic and Sally literally aren't dating for the first decade of Archie, then they confess and get broken up within ten issues. They finally confess their love on the 10th anniversarly issue 125 and then Sonic goes to space. He comes back and the slap happens shortly after. Then they stay broken up for almost the next decade. The only actual Sonally stuff until 2010 is in the 25YL AU. Then when Ian finally gets them back together she gets roboticized and then the mandates start piling on like crazy. It's the Sonic 06 of ships. I think people like the idea of Sonic and Sally actually getting the chance to develop their relationship rather than what actually played out. The official story is two people who could barely stand each other trying to date twice and then the universe implodes and turns one of them into a lesbian to kill off the chance of her ever dating a man again.
So who made AoStH?
https://youtu.be/RZLE7ypbDHE?si=OWj0wiIItu0sGXoC
>>556662418YAMAROOOOOOOO
>>556664262Bonds don't always have to be romantic.
>>556664573>image Isn't there a Flash villain that is exactly like that, weather powers and all?
>>556664676>the 25YL AUWasn't Sonic miserable in that AU?
>>556663826>>556663648I think it's because the attack is a reference to Project X Zone.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa-QOFwzA40
>>556664734>Surge in Vegeta's iconic stanceDisgusting.
>>556662418
>>556664573>Windy Wallisguys we found Sonic's new love interest
>>556664734B-BEJITA-SAMA!?!?
>>556664170>>556664573So it's just checking a box. That makes more sense. I can't imagine he actually likes her.
>>556663731It’s because of Sally
>>556664573>we have mina mongoose at home
>>556664908Yeah, they're both jobbers
>>556664734SILVER'S FATHER IS A WOMAN!?!?
>>556665092JERK OFF TO SOME OTHER CARTOON WOMAN THERE ARE THOUSANDS OUT THERE
>>556665096At least Vegeta is cool.
>>556664734https://youtu.be/G7kYneJqmes?si=jBfZmA0jcNjbQRetAnd for the originalists:https://youtu.be/4Zd3LYW4pV8?si=foRrl3HfNByjaOPKWhich has closer sound to Surge?
>>556663562Smbz is a Mario show, not a Sonic one. The creator is a shittyfriendsfags who thinks they’re only good for dying so Sonic can have character development.
>>556665356Yet he kept Shadow alive?
My OTP is based solely on whoever I am trying to piss off at that exact moment.
>>556665418Shadow is the dark and edgy Sonic so he gets a pass
>>556664262>Archie made her 16I thought it was 12. But then I remembered Charmybwas also 16, until he got shot in the head and lost 10 years of his life mentally.
>>556665356He's also dragging his feet on Episode 3 of the reboot, which he wanted to expand into an Episode of Trunks-style flashback to when they were still alive.
>>556665275Thishttps://youtu.be/9ug1nNkm97o?si=qgl1GGx1_40dcy6ACuz y’know, she’s trailer trash.
>>556665356But Mecha MKII isn't a shitty friend and most SMBZ fans seem to just think the real Mecha is lame compared to the one on the show.
>>556665193
Someone draw surge doing the thumb pose.
>>556664676About 25yl, it was "one of the many alternate futures" Silver happened to visit.>>556664859also this. Sonic had unhappy marriage with Sally but put up with her for the sake of his kids.
>>556665000He's a gamefag who has many of the western characters as dex filler like pokemon. He said most of them are side missions but a few of them are important. He also keeps changing the names of the overly western characters to something like the games because Hope is just Robotnik now instead of Kintobor.
>>556665418Shadow isn’t Sonic’s friend
>>556665356I don't get when people include Tails, Knuckles and (to a lesser extend) Amy into the "shitty friends" group.What? Was Sonic 1 the only game you liked?
>>556665779Closest I know of is picrel. Don’t know if this is a reference to something but if not, it’s original.
Man they really did try to hype Surge up as some kind of big name character. Fucking lmao, what a trainwreck she turned out to be. I hope they try something that stupid again just because of how hilariously bad it'll turn out.
>>556665779>ore wa supah shad- ACK!
>>556665406Cute nose
>>556665791>Sonic is in an unfulfilling marriage where he is unhappy but puts up with Sally's bullshit because he doesn't want his kids to be from a broken homeThis is what Sonally fans want?
>stalking chroniclesfag nowShoo shooooo jap purist.
>>556665932They shouldn’t be included but they are for whatever reason, even for Sonic Team themselves
>>556665932Actually Tails was originally spared from the shitty friends rhetoric.
>>556665894...is what Shadow tells himself.
>>556666030incredibly boopable
>>556666056SatAM and Archie are as bad as purists say they are and it isn't just angry Sonamyfags and windfags.
>>556665971Evan has absolutely zero interest in writing an action comic.Best we're gonna get is a therapy circle.
>>556665932Silly anon this wasn't just a joke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG18_v5B0u4
>>556666213Shadow doesn’t even consider Rouge his friend. Everyone else is a coworker at best to him
>>556665971Here's an idea >Surge actually starts genuine liking being hero>Shuts up mental figment of Starling by sheer determination >Finds out Kit has been orchestrating tailor made incidents just for her:>"Why? I really liked it when people cheered me for rescuing them and now they hate me for putting in danger so I could play a hero! Why would you do that?">"I dunno, felt like it. I mean my whole purpose in life is to support you. It's not like either of us have anything better to do. We have no past, no future and certainly no presence."
>>556666302
>>556666337Windfags?
Surgefags and Silverfags are the kinds of characterfags who specifically should never be allowed to write their favorite character
>>556666492
So when's randomfox killing himself, sparing us all from his obnoxious ship warring samefagging shit?
>>556666586The next Chaotix Case Files
>>556666474Wow that sounds really boring. Remember when they tried to be a hero and they still got shit on cuz they suck at it? Pretty sure she’s in denial.
tails can come along because he was there when then franchise was still good. he can't be playable though. only sonic
Evan is like a Vivziepop that doesn't write swear words
>>556666302Not her, but I just got an idea>That yellow rabbit guy Juice (I think?) keeps booping Drago's nose>Drago annoyed: "You keep doing that and I'll bite your head off.">Juice visibly exited: "Promise?">Drago wide eyed: "Holy crap, is that guy actually for real?"
>>556665791Can you faggots please read the comics before talking out of your ass? 25YL Sonic was miserable because Shadow was king and was implied to have killed most of his friends. Before that, the original 25YL, Sonic looks like he's happy and fine with his marriage to Sally.In 30YL Sonic is very clearly depicted as loving his wife and family. Y'all are fucking retarded. Read the comics.
>>556666867I have no imagination, comes with the spectrum. How'd you write it? Because the two are setup for failure, it's going to crash and burn eventually.
>>556667138Nah, I prefer my reality filtered by my biased opinions.
>>556667418>>556667418>>556667418
>>556664573>removed Honey's Archie TailSo is the goal to japanifize if west?
>>556667138If anything, Sally comes off as an opportunitic Lady Macbeth >Marry the hedgehog who conquered the world >Refuses to duck you for 25 years >Perform a palace coup and marry his rival >Immediately fuck him until you give birth to twins just before the menopause hits
K-TBR 199.2, the radio channel for Nite the Owl and Donnie the RoosterKintobar
>>556661662Be quiet, Toonsite
>>556666938