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Verichtungsboxen Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>556698647
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>all of Rem's skill/call voicelines have sleepy variants
>despite not being able to use 1 or 4 during his nap
How the hell do you even trigger those
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You can ship Mina with whoever no one gaf
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>Silver and Venator both nerfed into irrelevancy

At least they have eachother
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INHOUSE
G6Y76
VENACHUDS VS. CELESTESISSIES
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>>556736095
where are the patchnotes?
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>>556736095
They haven't nerfed Venator at all though
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>>556736179
theyve nerfed his ult 4 times
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https://youtu.be/x05HZh4F7TE?si=2M8nrIcY_RCA0nGy
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i have played 7 games now with venator in it and he was on the losing team for all 7 games.
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Is it just me or do they kinda look alike?
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>>556736247
>>556736152
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>>556736287
the soldier 76/punisher/ venator archetype attracts the dumbest of players in online gaming
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>>556736247
The rest of his kit is fine, maybe minor buffs are needed but he’s nowhere near as bad as Silver’s current state
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>>556736336
why does shiv look like monke
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>>556735205
the question was "most benefit for time spent learning them"
but benefit isn't a black and white value and FUN is important
I don't think Doorman, Mina, Yamato are bad, I don't know about Calico and Sinclair I think he's so overlooked it's hard to tell but I'm pretty sure skill expression is high.

I feel Doorman and Sinclair are the UNORTHODOX skill expression heroes. Whereas with Mina for example, she has more raw skill floor potential and is more straightforward, but the straigtforward part is a limitation. When you've "solved" Mina as an experienced Mina main, it's probably going to just be a case of execution vs. execution. That might not as be as fulfilling unless you like the results and the feeling of her execution. Whereas with Doorman and Sinclair your high level execution is wacky clever door use and carting the entire team through a door out of midboss and infinite gensokyos and Sinclair is exploiting the enemy ults better than they can case by case and hitting the most insane cross map bolts.

and yamato you're just gaming out with a kit that is playing a different game I don't fucking know
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>>556736287
just win dude
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>>556736336
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>>556735692
>>556736253
Do you think her show is worth going to?
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>>556736429
He's Puerto Rican
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>>556736414
>fine

His grenade does no damage, has small range, and is awkward to hit

His shotgun stun does not last long enough to actually use a blessed heavy melee

His snares do no damage, have a short immobilize time, a short range, and can be destroyed
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>>556736467
>street drool
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>>556736528
only if I can eat her sweaty mare pussy after
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>>556736467
Do you have a single win on him in the actual game
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>>556736287
I love him but yeah the playerbase for him is retarded.
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where can i get a mina gf?
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>>556736616
>grenade
I’ve finished off plenty of people with it and never had trouble aiming it, it’s surprisingly accurate to your crosshair
>shotgun
You have to melee immediately after the shot goes off if you want it to connect
>traps
I’ll give you that, they’re the weakest part of his kit
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she's horny
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>>556736996
How big is her horse cock?
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>>556736875
Why are they red.
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>Lash carrying like a chud
>Everyone on the team (including me) drop the ball and cause a loss
This feels awful bros holy shit
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>>556736495
You know I'm right
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>>556736975
>You have to melee immediately after the shot goes off if you want it to connect

Unless youre already on top of the guy you stun, the stun wont last long enough to prevent a parry unless the other guy just doesnt try to parry you at all
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>>556736975
grenade is fine, shotgun CD could be a few seconds shorter, maybe trap lvl3 could be rearranges to "+15 damage and traps cannot be destroyed". maybe slight HP buff since he's relatively squishy for a mid/close range M1
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>>556737078
What's the point of censoring yourself and no one else
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>get the most passive pocket as a lane partner as billy
thanks for that 10 min queue valve
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>>556736863
>kit that baits wannabe CS player aimfags
>design that baits whiteracesavior pudge mains
Truly the most cursed hero of all time
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>>556737174
I'm not censored I have no name bro
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>>556737036
ask silver
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>>556736095
>At least they have eachother
Celeste smacking her lips as she waits to cuck the priestnigger
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>>556737201
Is this how you get into Phantom
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>>556737078
>that rem icon
Huh?
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>>556737078
>>Lash carrying like a chud
Guh? What an odd usage of chud.
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INHOUSE G6Y76
VENACHUDS VS. CELESTESISSIES FIGHT TO SEE WHO TAKES SILVER'S HAND IN MARRIAGE
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>>556730658
>https://youtu.be/eN9NN1rjwyU
cringe ass Wraith chatting at him all game.
>is there a map?
>the door is locked I can't follow him through here (it's one of the veils in mid)
>mid boss has arrived, where, green?
>where can I change my character?
>what is this? (m1 on a sinner, walks away)
>shop and upgrade, b? omg look at this it's a giant menu, what do I buy these? (17 minutes, 13k souls, first item purchased, still has 8 unspent skill points)
>I'm attacking with my claws, why do I have to reload?
>why do I pick 4 heroes? that's weird I pick 4 but I can only use 1?

this guy is so fucking stupid it's amazing that he was able to turn being a lolcow into a career.
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>>556737173
If they’re gonna keep traps destroyable they should have more health, a stray bullet can immediately destroy it right now
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Why are people building Spirit on Venator? He only has one ability that scales off it am I missing something here?
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>>556736875
not here, you should leave this place forever to increase your odds of finding one.
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>>556737539
His resists scale with spirit but it’s not worth building into still
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>>556737408
I don't really understand how he's a lolcow, dude is just boring stupid.
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>>556737191
>8 min queue as of now
Its going to be another shitstomp
I need to get back into osrs this shit is beyond saving
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>>556737598
he streamed himself masturbating
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>>556737429
wouldn't make much of a difference, the arm time is lenient enough he can actually get them off in the middle of a skirmish, which makes him pretty fun. imo it's just my preference to see annoying qualities gated to upgrades to reward people who come into a match with a gameplan

>>556737598
he's been a lolcow for almost 20 years now, it's mostly reputation
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>play with lower elo friends
>every teammate we get is fucking terrible but also has an ego and flames
>play solo game
>people are communicating and its a good experience
>doesnt feel like i got the weight of the world on my shoulders to carry 5 other people kicking and screaming to the finish line
i fucking hate mmr based match making
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>>556737782
why aren't you playing street brool with your shitstack?
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Which Graves builds are actually good?
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>>556737914
the normal game mode is more fun
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>>556737408
wrath
can't even fucking read
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am I dogshit or is silver really fucking bad? I can't ever fucking ult when it matters. when I do ult the fight is already over one way or the other.
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hahaha
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>>556737998
No comment on your skill but yes, Silver is shit.
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>>556738010
almost like it was an ESL hallucination the entire time.
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>>556738010
>Celeste is a secret chud

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>556738010
how am i supposed to respect her identity when she is a bigot?
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>>556737998
She got gutted, still technically playable with Express Shot/Torment Pulse. TECHNICALLY.
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>>556737998
they giga nerfed her and gave her like 1 extra bullet as compensation. shes just fucking terrible
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Retarded question, but I only got into this game a few days ago, and months ago I remember seeing screenshots from some sort of VN thing with the characters. Is that somewhere in the game or is it on a website?
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>>556738010
nigga what is this
Ik they think Celeste is trans but now Pocket too?
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>made it harder for silver to ult
>and made her ults way worse

What a batshit thing to do for an already bad hero

I'm glad Ecelebs all jerked eachother off saying she was secret OP
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>>556738148
is this picture supposed to prove anyone but you wrong?
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>>556738274
Pocket's ingame descriptions always referred to him as ''they'' so people ofcourse went crazy with it
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>celeste voiceline confirms pocket is a HE
so now the tourists can fuck off elsewhere now right, I had multiple of them calling me ignorant for saying all the lore in game was placeholder text.
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>>556737312
I don't feel like I deserve to be here icl
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>>556738416
mina already confirmed their gender
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>>556738326
>shitskin doesn't understand English
hahaha
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G6Y76 inhouse
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>>556738148
>ESL hallucination
The whole reason there's so much seethe over Pocket here is because Spanish (like most other vermin languages) doesn't have a concept of genderless pronouns like "it" or "they". Poor little Paco reads Pocket's bio and his brain can't comprehend it so he automatically flies into paroxysms of seethe.
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>>556737998
they giga nerfed her human 1, nerfed her ult cool down, nerfed basically everything in her ult form, made her ult hard to get, boot kick sucks, bola might be one of the bottom 5 abilities in the whole game and made it harder to ult by making you need more damage. All this even with the lowest winrate in the game. the character dies to any form of CC in human form but its alright they gave her 1 bullet and very slightly faster shooting!
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>>556738148
>>556738562
True, tired of this projection from troon and chud alike.
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Is it just me or does Pocket kinda look like Spike Spiegel due to his hair?
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how is celeste trans she looks like a textbook bimbo she might be the most feminine character in the game after geist
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>>556739014
you don't understand i posted the twitter screencap you have to get really mad right now
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>>556738728
>boot kick sucks, bola might be one of the bottom 5 abilities in the whole game
Alright, I agree that she's bad, but those abilities are still quite good. Her 2 triggering melee items and being a relatively low cd movement ability is nice. Bola is like a better capacitor built into her kit, which is crazy good.
What makes her human form bad is that all her damage is built into her 1 and if it's on cd or you miss the shots you basically do nothing. And you're squishy with only 2 stam and a shit gun.
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>>556739075
No.
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>Was great at Dota 2 from Alpha-2014
>play deadlock for like 30 hours after public alpha starts
>quit as I get lowest rank on purpose
>come back this week.
Im just doing rando and feels like im smurfing, pretty shit at movement though in this compared to what I see.

Insane how easy it is to farm/objectives in Initiate.
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>>556739014
she has trans colors.
but in reality it just shows how based Valve is.
they put trans colors on the circus freak.
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>>556739348
What's the point of this post? You sound like a loser.
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>for the low price of 3200 souls makes Silver irrelevant for the rest of the game
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>>556739348
Because the primary people playing this are OW/Rivals players that barely understand mobas followed by LoLbabs.
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>>556739506
specifically for you, it was entirely for you.
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>>556739506
Less of a loser than the guy projecting TEE BEE HAYCH
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>>556739563
Why would I pay 3200 souls for something I already get from Icefrog for free
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>>556739506
Probs because he thinks anyone gives a shit about the opinion of a dota-nig
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If I have to hear “DEATH IS COMING” in brool one more time…
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>>556739075
>>556739014
Celeste's VA and lines will make or break her.
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>>556739284
cool it triggers melee items, good thing she only buys 1 95% of the time which is lifestrike. but the heal on life striker barely matters because half the time you're initiating your engage with the dash (the barely goes 10m)

bola is fucking terrible. 1.5 seconds is nothing, barely longer than a heavy melee charge, does no damage and slows for nothing. compare that to other debuff abilities like kelvin beam or Mo sand. its fucking terrible
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>>556736996
I swear to god everytime I see her, her horn gets bigger.
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>>556739563
*buys unstoppable*
your move??
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>>556738343
>lore literally mentions pocket hiding from public view
>majority of normie films (especially those with hackers) keep up with ambiguity via the same terminology
>but for some reason
>"MUH SISSYTRANNYCHUDFAG"
Some cullings are in order.
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I build healign tempo on graves is this OK??
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>>556740132
>spent 6400 to beat a 3200 item

You lost and do no damage
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>>556739563
With how deep you have to go as Werewolf form you would be stupid not to buy debuff remover on silver. Non-negotiable.
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>silver's voice
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Celeste fucking your ass with her horsecock and making you fellate her horn to solo fill your holes!
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Celeste has a gaping horse pussy
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>>556740201
no because this game retarded system gives stats depending on item price
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>>556738562
>Spanish (like most other vermin languages) doesn't have a concept of genderless pronouns like "it" or "they"
I always assumed it was ESL retardation but that explains so much seething I've seen over 'they' being used. And people wonder why English speakers complain about ESLs.
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>>556740513
literally what does this mean? higher price items are stronger? no shit?
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>>556740201
no u!
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How many injuries/deaths has Celeste's horn cause? You think someone has asked her to shove it up their ass/penis/vagina?

>>556740356
Wish it was huskier/had a deeper southern drawl.
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>race washing in movies, turning king arthur and helen of troy black
cuck woke shit
>race washing in deadlock, turning wilhelmina harker into mina ha
totally acceptable in /dlg/'s eyes

um???
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>>556740615
OH NO NO NO HE DOESN'T KNOW
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What's with this cool red flame?
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>>556740869
ult particles glitched out
she's getting redesigned away from being purple soon
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>>556740490
https://youtu.be/IOliWIdJFoY
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>>556740869
you died while powerslashing
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death is cumming xd
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this hero vote was a good test on how much of the audience belongs to an archetype
>rem: furries
>graves: waifu fags
>Silver: safe horny fags
>Venator: le based tradcaths
>celeste: trannies
>Apollo: no one
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im sorry but, im not buying healbane on paige! thats not my job!!
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if youre even slightly behind silver is unbelievable dogshit
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>>556737998
Awful, like almost Graves awful
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>>556741109
what about
>I don't want to play another fucking m1gger/bullet char because my aim is dogshit
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Why did they buff Silver?
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why do people think that their bad aim is just there to stay? just practice nigga lol
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>be Emissary 2
>go on vacation
>return home
>boot game
>Archon 3
???
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>>556740818
i accept your concession
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>>556741325
Also, least obvious smurf.
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BABY IM PRAYING ON YOU TONIGHT
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>>556741432
>clueless
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>>556741049
Hi Graves, I'm Death
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>>556741432
>he actually doesn't know
You should read the UI more
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>>556741562
>praying
most literate deadlocker
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Celeste won.
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>>556741432
embarrassing post, i would delete it now before you have 10+ humiliation (you)s
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>>556741325
30% win rate will do that.
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>>556741432
too many newfags in this thread who think they deserve to live
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>>556739348
>squid (Graves) commended you
>Ink
heh
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>>556741109
>Venator: le based tradcaths
who's gonna tell him?
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>>556741325
Why can't people decide whether she was buffed or nerfed
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>>556741354
i like my
>circle around you
>circle somewhere else
spells
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>>556741325
>no spirit resist
>no ethereal shift
hmm
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>>556741325
>didnt ban bebop
>his lane auto wins
shocking
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why do silver players only go 15-1 or 1-15
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Whyd they remove Celeste's trans colors?
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>>556742038
association with child abusers
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>>556741915
In my games, she always has a K/D ratio of 2-3.
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I like Viscous
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Is it canon that Abrams has the biggest dick out of everyone?
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>>556742027
char is the definition of "feast of famine"
you either rape everyone under double kelvin dome or you die before transforming
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does the t1 for silvers 1 add flat weapon damage, or extra "based on hp" damage?
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>>556742027
shes feast or famine hero. feast ehehe
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Trophy Collector Rem
thoughts?
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>>556742142
I tolerate him because he fucks over Graves
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>>556742027
new hero that you have to know well how to play so everyone who plays her either has no idea what they are doing and get roflstomped or they get put 2-3 entire ranks down their actual rank and roflstomp newbs because they inherently have more game knowledge that way anyways
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>>556742080
I asked about Celeste not Venator
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>>556740190
might be okay actually since death pick up heals you for a small amount so you basically have 24/7 uptime as long as you're in a lane
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>>556740765
>wilhelmina harker into mina ha
It's just a name reference though. Their backstories and personalities are wildly different.
You wouldn't even know to complain if they had given her a different name.
You have read Dracula right?
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>>556742259
Trophy collector is a trash item
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>>556742349
shalom
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>>556742259
i dont like it that you have to get it early :/
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>>556741354
Is kovaack a good place to start?
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>>556742485
Aimlabs is more noob-friendly than Kovaaks, but really you can just get better playing deadlock. If you never try to actually play M1 heroes, you never get better at them.
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>>556742259
>have to get it very early
>possibly fucks over your early game
>definitely fucks over your mid game timings
if you can win while being deliberately underpowered the "win more" isn't gonna give you much
you could have just bought actual items and roflstomped
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Can I see your crosshair?
I want to make mine better but I'm not sure how
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Can you give me Paradox build advice? I feel like she can use everything kinda, but people don't really stand in her grenade
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>>556742680
99% of "pros" use a small dot, either size 1 or 2, that's either neon green or teal. The crosshair lines are optional.
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>go 11-2 with catholicism man
>23k player damage, 20k objective damage
im an aimlet, its over
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>>556741737
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>>556742259
No you spend too much time avoiding people to go do map macro. And its not like you can 1v1 anybody that comes to gank you while you are stealing sinners or split pushing, especially if you have a 0 stack trophy collector.
Just buy something that helps you steal enemy camps faster like torment pulse, or maybe cultist if you insist on bonus souls
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>>556740490
futa really is the best of both works
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i dont like rescue beam or healing nova, they both feel like shit to use compared to divine barrier
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>>556742680
>>556742851
Forgot to mention, some guys still use white. The biggest thing is just using a small/fine reticle, and have it be visible on top of red enemy outlines.
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>>556742259
Yes because Sprint speed is great for buffing multiple lanes

If you arent rotating a lot then no but there arent many sprint items that make sense on him
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>Graves
Nerfed
>Silver
Nerfed
>Venator
Nerfed
>Rem, the half-pint who decides lanes simply by existing so long as his partner has at least a functioning brain stem, and then manages to still be high-tier as a late-game team support
...

I guess the furry mafia would firebomb Valve, huh? But please, continue to ruin Graves and Silver and fuck around aimlessly with Bepop changes!
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>>556743069
cool build!
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>>556741432
holy retard
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>>556743009
rescue beam is great on backline supports... considering that the game doesn't randomly decides to snap to the wrong teammate
nova is gigabait outside of ivy 2 combo

also both are just 3200, as opposed to 6400.
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>>556743069
One green and he carries
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>>556743069
>Rem but he has an actual gun
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Genuine question: Will I "learn" deadlock if I pick the braindead characters like Viktor, Infernus, Seven?
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>>556740356
>https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockJan2026/Audio/werewolf_upgrade_power4_08.mp3
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>>556743393
yes, as you still have five morons to drag you down regardless of how you do
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>>556743393
Deadlock is not a specific set of skill.
You will learn the deadlock version of whatever character you keep playing.
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>>556743393
You can learn the game on any hero, you just need to actually engage your brain while playing, and think about your decisions.
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>>556742680
Green dot, size 5
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i reinstalled after having not played since 2024 and went 0/11 as mo & krill and uninstalled again
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>>556743069
CANON

>>556743393
Yes, Seven is probably the single best character to learn the game on
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Is there a way to know how many stacks enemy Drifters, Mos, Vindictas and Talons have?
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I summon the great minds of /d2g/ to help me
Finally sat down on my ass to write my proposal for a fairy lawyer hero, but how the fuck do you integrate fairy contract mechanics into gameplay? I'm not icefrog, I have no clue.
Ideally some spells that can either fuck up your enemy or help them depending on what you do.
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>>556743393
Infernus is a great character to learn the basic bread and butters of the game. Can't really comment on Seven as I haven't played him. Victor kind of has his own things going on.
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why no remodels in this patch?
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>>556743817
Cause you touch yourself at night
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>>556743393
seven isn't braindead since the nerfs.
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>>556743780
>the great minds of /d2g/
*/dlg/
same thing really
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>>556743817
let me ask valve
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>>556743780
Just copy Oracle.
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>saw a really fucking cool victor clip
>want to play victor now
>have never played him in my life and have no idea how to build him
fuck
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>>556743953
just run around like a retard and hope the game goes to 40 mins
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>>556743780
For a contract spell, I would have one of the spells make the enemy choose between two bad options. Like, you cast a DoT on them, and if they dash with the debuff on them, they take additional damage.
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>>556743780
whatever you do, post it on the official deadlock forums and not here because i don't care about your shitty ideas.
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>>556743953
I used to play him but then they changed aura of suffering to not be mitigated by spirit res, last time I tried him he melted in teamfights
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>>556743817
Patch feels a bit rushed desu.
It's like they were scrambling to get the new heroes ready to ship, Silver feels WIP and they had to a face lift on Celeste while the patch was live, imagine if she was picked first?
They probably have several remodels half-done, but prioritized the new heroes to keep engagement.
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Should teamfighting be better rewarded in this game? I feel like the most surfire way to win, is to avoid fights for 25 minutes (apart of course from early lane kills you can get) and just farm the map more effectively, then push the enemies shit in with a huge soul lead.
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>>556743910
He is in pisslow
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>>556743953
just build retard spirit and green items
transcendent CD, greater expansion, torment pulse, warp stone, unstoppable, fucking whatever
it doesn't matter
then walk on top of the enemy heroes with your ult going and spam 1 and 2
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>Somehow rank up to archon despite losing a ton
>Average player becomes 10x as aggressive towards each other for no reason
It's like night and day. In my old lobbies nobody even talked and now every match has somebody throw a bitchfit and sit in spawn all game.
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I LOVE REM SO MUCH IT'S UNREAL!
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>>556743780
why a fairy lawyer?
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>>556744119
Someone wasnt here for the deathball meta
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>>556744037
>bloodseeker at home
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How do people build comps in this game when it comes to competition? I saw they hold weekly tournements and whats the pattern when it comes to team compositions, like position 1-5 in dota
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>>556744119
Farming is only the meta in low elo lobbies. At higher ranks, the enemy team will actually rotate onto you and take your farm. Look at the DLNS games, you have dudes ganking from mid at minute 2 while doing boxes on the way. They're very aggressive.
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someone teach me how to play mina
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all roads lead to maining haze............
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>>556743393
seven is probably the best character to learn deadlock because he relies a lot on the basics (in a good way)
he's versatile and must engage in both macro and micro constantly so you can learn a lot, his floor is not low so you will probably not be too frustrated by being bad, he's good in low ranks and his kit has varied ways you can build it and still succeed so you can get better at recognizing what works and what doesn't when itemizing
infernus is similarly good at it, but he has a few things that make him a bit too easy imo (notably, you have to engage less with abilities and he has a really reliable get out of jail for free card, also his napalm may make you overestimate your potential damage with other heroes), playing him may teach you some slightly bad habits but it's nitpicking really, do play him if you find him more fun
victor is not a good beginner hero because he has a very specific way to play and build
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>>556743953
what was the clip amigo
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>>556744350
shoot them before they shoot you.
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>>556743780
Have her weapon and skills or one or the other apply terms and her 3 cycle through contracts which apply debuffs and buffs depending on the toggle
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>>556744213
They are getting filtered. The easy wins have stopped and their ego is too fragile to accept that maybe they need to git gud so they throw a temper tantrum and blame others
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>>556744404
I dropped Haze for Venator
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>>556742680
Honestly, if you want to see a bunch then just go look up Counter Strike crosshairs until you find one that you like then replicate it in Deadlock since they use basically the same settings. Crosshairs are 99% preference so just find one that looks nice to you.
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remove paige and holliday from the game
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remove every female character from the game
they're not warriors, they don't belong
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>>556744306
Because I think a fae would fit, and they're known for three characteristics
>naturalistic
>being cunning sadistic assholes
>involved in extremely complex legal jew jitsu that made you accidentally sign away your first child, your soul and your prostate
You have to change the forest theming to fit Deadlock, so being a lawyer hits the other two perfectly.
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>>556744693
Yoshi already made them staminalets compared to the male heroes
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>>556744332
Its still pretty immature imo and suffers from such a small player pool that you are banning the other guys main/the current fotm. Plus there is like 2 teams way ahead of everyone else that can run troll picks

Wouldn't worry about it too much
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>>556744654
wraith, haze, infernus, vindicta, mirage, venator, vyper*
ftfy
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we need a hero to appeal to south america, any idea?
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for the crime of creating paige, I hereby sentence hotpoo to forced feeding so he becomes the new nikocado
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who's the worst hero in the game and why is it Holliday?
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>>556744858
I know what you are.
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>>556744534
My condolences to your winrate
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>>556744883
macaco
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>>556744883
Grim Fandango style day of the dead mariachi skeleton for maximum racism and maximum south america appeal at the same time
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>>556744940
nah man mirage holds that spot
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do I really have to dash into people as infernus
I just want to shooty...
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>>556744715
but why a lawyer. why would a lawyer join the ritual
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>>556743953
you want Spirit, Mobility and Cooldowns, then you just toggle 3, spam 1 and 2 while you sit on top of someone and hope they die before you do
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>Enemies freeze lane
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>>556744883
We already have venator
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>>556744883
venator was just added, hermano
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holy shit graves is unplayable I hate her gun so much
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holy shit graves is unplayable I hate her 1 so much
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>>556744883
luchador, andale andale!
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>>556745113
She's Rudy Giuliani and wants to clean up NYC of lunchtime rowdies
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>>556737598
He placed 4th at Evo in 2005, was generally toxic, and because most other good SF players didn't play that Evo, he called himself "The best SF player in NA".
That's basically his claim to fame, Everyone hated him already then, and while he wasn't terrible at SF, he certainly was not "the best NA". So it kinda was just a case of: "If you had mild success with anything on the Internet in 2005, you automatically became an E-celeb". Hell, Totalbiscuit and Jesse Cox got "big" because they covered WoW Cataclysm beta content in 2010, that's all it took.
Shit kinda carries over from there. So it's not like DSP just popped up one day started being terrible on the internet and that's why people watch. Nah, minor claim to fame + huge ego, and after that people basically like to dunk on him.
My favourite DSP fact: he once did a giveaway for Mass Effect collectors edition. Box only because he traded in the game.
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you know it's weekend dota when your team gets stomped so hard you get an existential crisis
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>>556735692
Do you guys think Apollo should simply be cancelled and given a rework?

Like from a design perspective, a character that nobody cares about is a failure, right? I only see him get mentioned now that there are only 2 choices left and people angry at xitter trannies who latched onto Celeste are saying they support Apollo now out of contrarianism.

If a design is this unappealing they should go back to the drawing board
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>>556745815
no one cared about victor until after he released
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>>556745396
>throw skulls next to enemy
>they hover around doing nothing
>they all die
fantastic skill, you might as well just play gun if you're going to put your ass on the frontline to make sure the idiots do their job instead of having to pray for them to actually target something
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>>556738343
>>556740178
The Patrons refer to Pocket as a "they"
Just accept it as a relic of the Sweet Baby[TM] consultant era that has passed away since Mina's release
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>>556737408
>the fucking arrogance not to select "bot match" for your first match.
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So, Vindicta kinda ass, huh?
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>>556741432
>Concessionposting nigger is a tourist
I hope the /v/ janny who keeps deleting Deadlock threads gets kicked off the mod team so you fags don't come here anymore
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>>556744883
silver; wolf is just ursa.
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>>556745815
are you retarded?
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>>556741915
I'm not so sure anymore.
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>>556745483
>>556745806
Am I dumb or is there no hero who wants to be mayor of New York? It's such an obvious gap for a goal.
>inb4 Mina and Seven
one is a Masquerade vampireocracy the other an incel rebellion
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>>556745815
celeste was literally that until silverfags went into full shill mode when they realised silver was boring.
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I feel like I'm just not getting Venator. Only have a couple games on him so they could have been drafts he didn't fit in but he feels awkward. Help me out, bros. I feel like I lack the ability to do anything but Ira Domini from the back and once I do people just run, but if I go for a more aggressive playstyle I'm either half dead from my big ass hitbox, too slow to escape/pursue, or just die to whatever person I go on because I'm deceptively frail. Is Ira Dominicta sniping the way?
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>>556745467
Need to see him and Venator going at it
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>>556745073
Unironically kino
The game is severely lacking in actual 1940's designs ever since Billy's batch of characters.
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>>556746502
build him like billy but no spirit items except qss.
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Need this vid but Graves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLo5Nqo7w0w
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>Hey guys, I see calico and dynamo are running ontop of mid with ult
>Do not finish midboss and get out of pit
>DUUUUHHHH OKAY!
>Braps out all skills and finishes off mid
this community is dumber than pigshit
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>>556746502
the only good things about him is his ult & gun
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I hope I like whatever redesign they go for with Vyper, she's weirdly the character I have found myself the best suited to
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>>556745815
its not that hes unappealing, its that hes a man. thats why he most likely will be last. hes not a mascot or a character who got leaked over a year ago or a woman all the troons can latch on to with their head canon. I honestly think apollo might end up being the most fun character
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>>556737598
he seems rather normal now but someone this delusional in an online space was a rarity over a decade ago, now every zoomer is a team blaming shitter making perpetual excuses so theres nothing special about him other than already being internet famous
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>>556746703
>its that hes a man
does this mean venator isnt a man :thinking:
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Is Abrahams Lincoln overtuned right now, or is he just a good pub stomper? I see him murdering everyone while being unkillable in most games even when they start mid game with 7 deaths
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>>556745607
I still like the lightning returns unboxing where the fire alarm is going off
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uhmm is this build ok??
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>>556745815
i only support an apollo redesign if his main weapon is a sword that shoots
i fucking hate that shit
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>>556746861
hes easily S tier. so yes
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>>556746861
He's arguably the strongest hero in every single rank bracket. I won't say he takes zero skill, but compared to something like Shiv or Holiday he's braindead.
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>>556746808
Venator is gay
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I hope the Vyper rework just turns her into an anime-style kemonomimi girl who's 90% human with some snake and lizard traits so that we'll get a ton of porn of her that I can cringegoon longedge to
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>>556746808
read my post more carefully
>character who got leaked over a year ago
we've known about venator since before holliday was in the game and people, myself included, wanted to play him
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graves is such a cool character shame she's kinda boring to play
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>>556746861
both abraham and mohammed are S tier at 53-55% winrate at eternus so yes
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>>556746861
he's solid at every stage of the game and is unkillable as long as you buy enough greens, he's very strong
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>>556744883
Venator was literally just released
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>>556746949
wooah..,.
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>>556746919
>extra regen over something like healing rite which you can give to your lane partner
Why?
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>>556746502
He’s an M1 carry, first and foremost. You need to be building a lot like Haze/Warden, farming a lot, and eating up space on the map. Get Monster Rounds, Active Reload, HSB, and Titanic Mag for your 4800, and Battle Vest/Bullet Lifesteal/Enduring Speed for your other 4800. Use your ult in teamfights, and farm when your ult is down. You need a soul lead.

In the mid game, get some combination of Weighted Shots/Hollow Point/Glass Cannon to hit gun breakpoints, and then Recharging Rush when you have the 5 point talent in grenade. Get Unstoppable and Spirit Resilience as needed.

Get the two point talent in gut shot fast, and then max either your ult or grenade. Put traps in doorways.
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>>556746919
Only if you deepthroat your carry under the desk during the game
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>>556746949
and married to me
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>>556746861
he just has a very simple gameplan thats really hard to fuck up and is basically a stat and skill check
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>>556746086
you know pocket is still trying to stay hidden even during the ritual right, the patron is talking to the whole team
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>queue up for league
>half my team is running it
>one is literally typing at 140wpm about how tanks are so broken and having a complete melty (he is playing a bruiser)
>play deadlock
>team doesn't give up
>even if i shittalk my lanecuck nothing ever really happens
>everyone just egos less in general
why is this
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>>556747031
>Unkillable tanks that can output a ton of disruption are valuable
I can't believe it
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>>556746502
He's deceptively versatile and you should change your gameplan to suit the team/enemy

Ive got 3 builds so far, the common ult bot weapon dmg build which kind of plays like a caster around the cd, a more m1 focused build with extra firerate for when my carry doesnt exist/is feeding, and a off carry supportish build with stuff like slow bullets and heroic aura to help a guy carry me

His hp sucks so you dont want to run frontline tho
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>>556746919
yea buy rite
because then you can upgrade it
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so grey talon can just use his ult 3 times a minute now? cool, love global, infinite scaling executes
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>>556746235
She's good, but very unforgiving and easy to shut down. I just don't know what role she's supposed to play.
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Wait... His name is Abrahm... because he's a TANK! Mind blown!
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>>556747308
>MFW I stare at the owl and wait for it to hit
>Cast cube at the last second
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>>556745815
>>556746051
>>556746703
I really hope Apollo gets a similar situation like Victor where he's a surprise favorite with an excellent kit and interesting personality+voice acting.
I think he'll have a haughty "classist" attitude like Mina but with a notable flavor of racism / Ixian superiority. The game is lacking in racism and some sort like this would be fun.
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>>556746580
at this point the 1940s aesthetic is totally being abandoned
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>>556747386
Wait till you hear about what Rem does.
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>>556747308
>wahhh why is anything other than pure gun builds viable
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>>556746235
She was fine before the ult changes. Being forced to build her gun just kills the hero vs. anyone competent.
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>>556747145
You mean me
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>>556747472
Losing his religion?
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his name is Mr. Bates because he's a master baiter
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God I hate wanting to play melee builds at midwit rank, everyone is so parry happy. Of course you dont see it in pisslow and I never really see it in high elo video either.
After the first parry spam I encounter I switch to full gun build and just rape people in the face as the stand there with their parry up.
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>>556747528
>strawman
KEKADOODLE DOO
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>>556747568
melee is only strong on heroes with heavy melee on an ability or that can guarantee it (brams), otherwise you're trading away the ability to take objectives and the average M1 hero has a gtfo ability anyone competent will use
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>>556747543
sister wives
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>>556747181
>"you know pocket is still trying to stay hidden even during the ritual right"
>Immediately gets noticed by Mina and interacts with Mo & Krill
>Keeps muttering about his daddy issues while his rando lane partner is around
>"the patron is talking to the whole team"
>Patrons talk to everyone with no regard for their privacy broadcasting wishes for the whole team to hear
We literally KNOW why Pocket's been written the way he has been. It was a retarded lorewriting decision due to DEI consulting but it was a decision nonetheless. This is like /tv/ coping that a nigger replacing a white character in a historical series "doesn't count because I consider it more like a stage play" as if that makes the Austrian nobleman's actor not a nigger
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>>556747198
>why is this
dotard inoculation prevents OWfags from throwing, OWfags prevents dotards from raging
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>>556747464
It's the same shit that happened with TF2 but that took a long time. It's sad they're dropping the ball this time a lot faster.
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>>556747376
Isn't being both difficult and easy to shut down kind of the opposite of being good?
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>>556747976
that doesn't make any sense
an ai chatbot came up with this combination of words
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https://x.com/deadlock_8/status/2020567859156402669
>We're getting retarded not-quite-SFM animations already
Valve fanboys... we're so back
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>>556747119
I really dont like glass cannon on him, I know a lot of good players run it but it brings you to bot 5 hp at max boons and he doesnt have any mobility
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if you were to stream or make youtube content, how would you make your stream entertaining if you're not a top 0.001% gameplay player?
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>>556747198
swapping to a third person shooter instead of the fucked up rts-but-only-1-unit controls makes you feel like you actually have a chance against someone statchecking you even if you probably don't
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>>556748461
be funny and relatable
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>>556748461
vtuber avatar, filter my voice to sound feminine, then post photos of my girflriend's feet on xitter so they'll think I'm a woman
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>>556747904
Trying too hard
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>>556748461
I point the webcam at my cleavage
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>>556748181
>deadlock_8
stop.
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>>556746235
the Snipe changes want to push her towards Gun builds, but going for Gun means you're not improving your Snipe, so it makes getting killing blows with it less reliable. it's a huge nerf when you consider that the Souls you used to get could go towards anything you needed, the flexibility to choose between more damage, utility or survivability, now you just get some extra gun damage that kind of works against the rest of the character.
I'm just really fucking salty because of the amount of times I've missed a kill by 20 hp
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>>556748031
>Isn't being both difficult and easy to shut down kind of the opposite of being good?
A bit, but there is merit in forcing the enemy to spend resources to shut you down.
Vin can easily grow out of control quickly if she's getting a lot of assassinate kills.
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My first mvp!
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>>556748619
>>556748626
I am not, and will never be, a woman.
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>>556748721
It's nice to see that other people are peeved about the change.
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>>556748461
Diss videos

*insert eceleb* is SHIT at deadlock, here's why
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>>556748997
Pocket...
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Isnt Celeste a raging Lesbian according to the datamined dialogue? You cant creampie a lesbian thats against the rules
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>>556749164
you're not supposed to creampie a horse to begin with
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so why does geist act like she knows billy and even calls him by a different name?
she is antagonistic to pretty much everyone else, but towards him she isnt the aggressive one, he is
so where does she know him from?
is billy actually some rich kid rebelling against his parents? That would mean hes a complete poser
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>loss streak in standard
>play 1 street brool
>roll the enemy team
I hate this
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>>556748946
Well done anon!
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Why does it feels like venator does zero fucking damage even when I'm insanely ahead?
The ult is genuinely a way worse vindicta ult on a 140 second cooldown, what the fuck?
I guess it can pierce but how often does that actually come into play, every 12 games if you have a dynamo that gets a 3+ people black hole?
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>>556747107
because...they are dumb! like 90% of them just see health bar go up and run in front of enemy. they dont even know how the item works..
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>>556749224
Billy (and Bill) is the diminutive form of William. She's still being antagonistic to him by not calling him by his actual name.
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>>556747198
the surrender button, LoL implemented this in the early days and it conditioned the players into thinking the games aren't worth playing out when you can just re-roll the match and get a stomp next game
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>>556749224
>calls him by a different name
Well, Mr. Captură de ecran
Bill(and Billy) can be a nickname for someone named William.
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>>556749456
>>556749478
alright fair, but she does act like she actually knows him, so whats the connection between the two?
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Why the fuck is Warden a cop of all things. He's like some ultimate magical supersoldier and decided to enlist in the PD?
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>>556749224
It would be on the nose. Him being a rich kid who goes full "fuck the man, man"
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>>556749615
demigods are fighting in the street, you need some serious police
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>>556749615
his current design is going to be changed to better reflect his background, but i think ill miss the silly bobby hat
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>>556746580
>>556747464
>>556748016
I don't think they ever clarified exactly which decade Deadlock takes place in
Honestly the lore is all over the place and kind of reeks of 2000's "just write whatever is wacky and random" quirk chungus shit. No references to either World Wars. There's a Soviet Empire ruled by the ghost of Catherine the Great. For all we know the Ming still rules China.

I think the worry is the devs chose not to pinpoint the exact year/decade of Deadlock's setting to give themselves more leeway with map and character designs, but have ended up giving themselves too much leeway which is why completely incongruous characters are making their way into the game.
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>>556749224
>is billy actually some rich kid rebelling against his parents?
This has been my assumption. Some people theorize Billy is Paige's younger brother too.
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>>556749615
He's not a cop he's the equivalent of a schizo military dude from a famility of military dudes eternally prepping for doomsday, except it's on the brink of actually happening.
Why he's on a YOU GOT A LOICENSE FOR THAT KNOIFE outfit is beyond me
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>>556749780
testers should get the silly hat as a cosmetic once the inevitable cosmetics lootboxes are implemented
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>>556749403
You build items that boost your weapon damage. After his ult bug fix it's better to just play as someone who holds m1 while building rapid recharge after getting your max grenade. I only ever use his ult when you can be sure to get clear shots off.
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>>556737595
Rapid recharge and maybe bigger range for his grenade is as far as I would go.
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Warden exists purely to shepherd TF2 troons out of their dead game so Valve can shut the servers down for good
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>>556748946
based victor enjoyer
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>>556749784
>For all we know the Ming still rules China.
You mean Qing, the Ming were a 17th century dynasty.
Unless the occult awakening made the ancestor gods rise and the Terracotta Army marched along with Huangdi, Sun Wukong and Budai and kicked those m*nchus out
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>>556746458
Silver's not boring!
She's just bad.
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>>556742201
This always annoys me because no one actually scratches a dog under the chin.
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>>556750045
Yes, I meant Ming
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>Yamato
>M&K
>Ven
>Bebop
>Mina
>Graves
The fuck resistance do I build against this comp? Spirit?
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>>556747464
desu it was never really 1940's and just "pre-1950's bar shiv" even if we discount placeholder models. I just hope the exceptions don't become the norm, stuff like shiv and billy kind of stand out to fit their character by virtue of being early, and heroes like Geist and Kelvin have an element of being late by virtue of being old fashioned. The world's cultures all kind of blended into a militarist and utilitarian blend for obvious reasons the closer you get to 1940 so I get it's hard to do variations on suit and uniform and hat but the more you break it the less unique it is to do so
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Wait

You can parry goo punch?
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>>556747276
i guess i can use it on myself..but i would never upgrade it. rescue beam feels mega clunky to use and healing nova is just shit!
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where's my skaven valve, I want to scurry in the tunnels
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celeste would not be able to suck your cock
this is how it would go
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>>556749895
An actual british bobby instead of super retro new york cop outfit would be a good new hero idea he should be a villain
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>>556747904
yeah, people that have seen his know who he is, and others like geist get fooled or decide to play along, youre really desperate for pocket to be a tranny arent you
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>>556747198
I noticed that too when playing Marvel Rivals after being a CSfag. People in that game had less mental after having a rough first third of a ten minute match than CS players do when they're down 0-10.
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She genuinely plays like shit, has a kit that isn't cohesive(like every character released this time) and has the absolute worst dogshit gun in the game.
Also no woman is like this irl, if they're actual "girlfailures" they've fucked 500 guys, have 20+ tattoos and are ugly.
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m1 feels so shit on every character until you get 8 gun items
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>read posts on here about how to play holliday
>try it
wait this is actually fun as fuck?? I dislike the headshot thing though, I'm not mechanically good enough to hit them consistently in the air.
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Just got carried by an foid on silver, AMA
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>>556750283
Why am I being crucified in this example am I Jesus
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thank god i have taste and made Ivy, who is not sucking buckets of cock like every other female hero, my wife.
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>>556750108
True. Shes fun, but bad.
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>>556750520
How do you think she defeated the Mendosa, anon?
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bros, silver player just talked for half a second and i instaantly noticed it was a troon
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>>556749936
Yeah I know that but even then it feels like it kinda sucks, he needs so much money just to be a worse wraith.
And gutshot is so insanely unreliable so very often.

>>556737539
Recharge is a must for grenade, and QSR/Magnum is good for permanent shooting and you're not fury tranceing yourself like haze to make active reload more worth it.
Maybe magnums too much but QSR is quite good for very low price since his reload is kinda lengthy.
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>>556750176
Really?
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>>556750176
you will remember you are against a viscous, parry puddle punch once in laning phase, and then never parry another one for the rest of the game, every game
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>>556750460
>Also no woman is like this irl
>irl
Who gives a shit, nigga? I don't understand where all these retards came from that need to constantly remind everybody a fictional character isn't realistic like nobody knows.
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>>556750283
She can just lie on a bed sideways and you insert the cock while standing up
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>>556750246
>rescue beam feels mega clunky
how is it clunky
just click on someone then drag them to you
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>>556750283
mine's not that long so she could just angle her head back and it'd be fine
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>>556750763
I don't like how real this is
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>>556750874
it needs to be at least twice as fast to not feel terrible
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>>556750176
it's insanely inconsistent and it can very often hit you through the parry.
And since he's putting himself at zero risk parry is making you stand perfectly still just so he can nuke you with the gun.
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>>556750283
Thank you Doorman!
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>>556750176
Latency plays a huge role in whether or not that information is useful.
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>>556750857
is that doro getting a dorojob
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I'm sick of randos who play this like a hero shooter instead of a MOBA.

No you dipshit you can't 1v1 the enemy carry who has a 10k soul lead just because he's "squishy".
No you dumbass you can't just roam into their half of the map unnoticed when all five of them are alive.
No you fuckwad you can't just ignore objectives and force teamfights over and over, usually with a soul disadvantage to boot.
No you retard you can't just dive enemy in the lane over and over and die 10 times before 5 minutes just because the respawn timer is only 5 seconds.

God I wish having 100 hours of Dota 2 was required to get into the playtest. You can't possibly get good data out of these shitters. I had one guy outright ask why respawns were so long, fuck.
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>>556750283
>Celeste will never suck your dick as she rams her horn into your stomach not stopping or showing an ounce of concern even as you scream in agony and feel death overtaking you until you finally nut in her mouth as you take your last breath
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>>556750283
you could do it like this
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>>556750283
you know she could just tilt her head at an angle right
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>>556751017
>it's insanely inconsistent and it can very often hit you through the parry.
if it hits you through the parry you just parried too slowly
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>graves holds hands with the lich hand when she rides the zipline
cute asf ngl
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so what exactly are you supposed to do vs venator in streetbrawl?
1k dmg per shot with a built in execute thats up like every 30s is absolutely retarded
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>>556751047
oh Doorman, you mischievous prick
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>abrams gets knocked into the wall by Venator
>he literally gets knocked into the wall and can't get out
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>>556751159
ive seen people with 100 hours of dota 2 play worse than people with 30
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>>556751507
karmic punishment
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>>556751508
there are more overwatch players in eternus than dota players, dotaniggers are just delusional I fear
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Purely hypothetically, would physically crushing Yoshi's balls have negative effects on future content updates
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>>556751507
hit him with the gun from Hot Shots
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>>556751103
>venator knocks abrams into the wall
>starts violently sucking his blue cock while hes stunned
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Why are so many people raging when you play safe in this? There is geniunenly nothing that rewards playing aggressive before 15 minutes in this. The best thing you can do is not do anything that even has a chance of getting the enemy team kills and just push and farm the stuff on ur side safely. Then you just wait on them to go too deep into ur side and kill them with all ur items easy. Almost every mofo who I run into screams in chat because I'm not throwing myself into the enemy turret at 2 minutes.
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>>556751508
I have 600 hours on dota 2
580 of those are ogre magi
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>Get hooked through the wall by my bebop
>Fall through the map
>Can't laugh with him because I'm comms restricted
So this is the true punishment...
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>>556751370
He can't aim for shit. Do the same thing you do with 90% of the ults. Walk away.
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>>556751747
oh hell yueah
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>>556751723
because passive players are both
>shit at the game
>boring as fuck to play with
if youre playing passive, especially if youre not even at least eternus so youre actually playing passively properly, youre creating an excruciating experience for your team
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>>556750414
>They decided to have nigger actors portray European composers because of DEI retardation
>"No it's not! Sounds like you really want there to be niggers in your show, huh?"
>They decided to shill that random famous men throughout history were fags because of DEI retardation
>"No it's not! Sounds like you really want historical people to be homosexuals, huh?"
>They decided to push queers and pronoun shit in games because of DEI retardation
>"No it's not! Sounds like you really want a tranny in Deadlock, huh? Why do you want trannies so much, do you love trannies?"
I hope you get lynched and torn apart by a mob within the next couple of years you dishonest wordtwisting meaningbending babyraping kike
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Am I the only one who's really annoyed that some abilities get thrown out instantly and some require another click? It causes me to constantly whiff abilities. On fucking Paradox her 1 is a channel and launch and her 4 launches instantly, that's horrible.
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>>556751723
the game rewards aggression, beat the enemy, get an advantage and then push that advantage onto the rest of the map to keep up tempo and create the widest gap you can.
and playing lame is fucking boring, it's like playing a fighting game and only staying on the other side while blocking, sure it works, you can even make a career out of that (see Jwong), but nobody enjoys playing against that.
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>>556750460
>has a kit that isn't cohesive(like every character released this time)

She's the only one with any sort of natural feeling combination of her abilities.

>prep the 1 but don't fire
>kick the target, possibly use camera control to change the direction they or you are sent for better followup
>hit them with 3 so they are slowed and can't easily evade right after
>land the 3 round salvo from 1 to chunk their HP

Furthermore you can even expand the above combination with the introduction of active items and melee attacks - light melee can be performed during 2 after you've landed on them (and with melee charge, kicking them into the floor leaves you within heavy melee range), and actives can be used as well, allowing you to do things like hit cold front before kicking off for extra damage and movement slow on the follow ups, or if you're opting to kick them away you could have phantom strike to continue chaining close range engagement (and you very well may have just hit ult charge and are now already in their face to maul them to death). All of this IS cohesive with said ult trigger, as she needs to burst damage quickly to get it charged, so her human form abilities working together and having flexible application is perfect. If you are having problems with it and somehow think she doesn't play in a natural fashion, that's just a skill issue.
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>>556751994
I havent seen someone this mindraped in a while, nice delusional schizobabble
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>>556750713
What build is this
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>>556751370
>1k dmg per shot with a built in execute thats up like every 30s is absolutely retarded
Do you retards even read abilities?
It's on a 140 second cooldown, 125 if upgraded, and only executes/is doing anywhere above 450 damage if it's a headshot and/or fully maxed for the pure bonus and execute on all

Just stun on him or walk away/take cover/etc.
Vindicta ult does slightly less damage on a charge ability that's always up and gives her massive bonus per kill.
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are there players who change their name to their preferred hero and one trick that hero or have we not reached that point yet
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>>556752036
Look in the keybind menu under abilities and change the casting mode little gup
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>>556751723
wow, the most objectively wrong statement in the thread. you really thought you cooked with this, huh?
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>>556752154
the haze having cerebral palsy and shooting at the air for 1 second straight several times build
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>>556751723
Like a lot of stuff in this game I'd say it's lane dependent, I've been doing a bit of gun GT lately and he feels pretty rough during laning so I kinda have to play safe for a while, but if you are playing someone who gets access to lots of utility from their abilities or has some earlier powerspikes you should definitely push that advantage
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>>556752213
I saw a dynamo with the name BLACKED RAW the other day.
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>>556750713
>You can use your ult to hide from M1ggers
Wtf I never knew that
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>>556751723
Not true at all, playing aggressively puts pressure on enemy players and the lane via the absence or status of heroes. Even if you don't kill the enemy low health heroes are playing defensively, not farming or rotating. You don't have to be suicidal, but pursuing favorable damage on enemy heroes puts them in a worse situation by every metric.
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>>556752382
>GT feels rough during lane
This general is fucking wild
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>>556751723
there is no such thing as "passive" or "defensive" play in competitive games. If there's an opportunity to get a lead by fighting/pressuring someone and you don't take it, you objectively played the situation incorrectly.

The more obvious answer is that passive players are also extremely unfun to play with/against, even if an enemy doing it is actually an advantage in most cases.
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does venator accept vatican 2?
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https://youtu.be/Ng3b_MqaXRk
Would this be fun
>Inb4 map too big
Yeah but let's say they increased player numbers or whatever. Would you like to see Deadlock with more maps?
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>>556752382
>gt feels rough during lane
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>>556752601
what if I don't want deadlock in dota
what if I want dota in deadlock
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I want 100 players no respawn street brawl 50v50
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>>556752154
441465
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Low rank anon here: Man, avoiding the deathball gankfest is crazy as graves. I ended the game with 60k souls, while the next highest on our team had 40kish.
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>>556751939
>>556752074
This is just insanely wrong. There is nothing in Deadlock that rewards aggressive play early. Its so easy to farm in your lane and on your side that starting damage trades or invading does literally nothing but put you at risk without damaging enemy's income. This isn't League where pushing on someone early denies them farm and pressure. Everyone is bathing in money, so the best thing you can do is get ur cash and stop trying to uselessly damage trade and then cry when ur damage trade leads to you getting picked off. This is also just straight up the best thing to do for fun too, it allows ur entire team to have the chance to pop off in mid and late game cause they're not forcing heroes you already fed.
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>>556752431
No she hid inside the ult and parried when they tried to melee kill it.
I might be mistaken but I don't think it actually blocks bullets.
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>>556752551
you have never played a moba in your life lmfao
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>>556752676
>getting to my lane
>Miku, Geist, Holliday, Rem, Dynamo
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>>556752842
anon this is like saying running is objectively worse than walking because there's a chance you'll fall and hurt your knees
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>>556752520
>>556752665
I hate GT as much as any functioning member of society it's actually way more, but he clearly said that GUN GT feels rough in lane, not GT as a whole.
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>>556752676
>Reading comprehension
What about other maps in Deadlock
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>>556752452
>>556752551
pls stop feeding in my games Silver mains, your "pressure" does nothing but give Abrams free kills.
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>>556752979
>ehm excuse me are you pulling the side camp to our creep wave to depush the lane?
>passive defensive low elo cuck
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>>556749784
>I think the worry is the devs chose not to pinpoint the exact year/decade of Deadlock's setting to give themselves more leeway with map and character designs, but have ended up giving themselves too much leeway which is why completely incongruous characters are making their way into the game.
I really wish this wasn't the case, but honestly I'm relieved that they're doing this now rather than later so that it isn't as jarring if they did it while the game had a more grounded feel.
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I get periodic lag spikes of 300 ms in game, and I think it's my wifi. Anyone know how I might be able to ameliorate this?
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>>556753048
the man can safely spam the other lane while flying, can throw out insanely fast nukes and has area denial at the stage of the game where it's at it's strongest. Saying GT has a rough lane is like saying aiming with Graves is mechanically demanding
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>>556752551
This is the real issue, you should play passive when you have to and aggressive when the opportunity presents itself.
If you're aggressive when you shouldn't be then the ball is on the enemy to punish and that can completely ruin the game for your team and the number 1 reason why teams throw.
If you're always passive you're an useless sack of shit.

Be on a state of always looking to punish mistakes but also not just sitting back half afk hitting creeps for 30 minutes.

>>556752842
>There is nothing in Deadlock that rewards aggressive play early.
Absurdly wrong and you're a genuine retard, you win lane by being aggressive and pushing, forcing the enemy to their tower.
This allows you to
>Poke for free
>Take their resources on their side (camps, boxes/urns)
>Take buffs
>Kill tower
>Easier denies
>Roam for free
At the 8 minute mark you can also get their sinners and jungle to completely starve them off resources, then you can get urn for free.


I can't believe how many retarded oracle at best players are in this general that feel the need to spout their wrong dogshit opinions.
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>>556753040
What? Are you braindead?



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