patch notes?JOIN THE TOURNAMENTFeb 12ndthrdst 8:00 PM ESThttps://challonge.com/Boot_Camp_BeatdownIlsa character guide:https://youtu.be/BwRzS7C9EdE>/gbvsg/ Tournament VODshttps://rentry.co/du3onotehttps://www.youtube.com/@grumblebumble69/--->(Un)official /gbvsg/ PC lobbyTo join, turn Crossplay off in System settings so that you're able to join Platform lobbies.Then you can join the (un)Official /gbvsg/ PC lobby at Japan Platform Lobby 1. Image version of joining instructions https://imgur.com/bCHqtDLPlaystation players cannot join the lobby, use a room if needed instead.>(un)Official /gbvsg/ RoomsUsually has "gbvsg" as password (check thread). f2players cannot join so ask people to join the lobby instead.>Gawdlike character guides (secret techniques!) for Yuel, Vikala, Narmaya, Galleon and Wilnas, by yours truly Anon!https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjG9OYMNRivtA_KWepE_aFmhGOJc2zETR&si=MqZagR-IO8ue8gxQ>This week's F2P rotationGran, Zeta, Vaseraga, Eustace, Beatrix>Steam pagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2157560/Granblue_Fantasy_Versus_Rising/>Websitehttps://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/>Resources:https://www.dustloop.com/w/GBVSR>Twitter hashtagshttps://x.com/YamicornDMV/status/1709222479061745711>Match replayshttps://replaytheater.app/?game=gbvs>Graphic Enhancements for PChttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3117157142>Enable sound while the game runs in the backgroundhttps://steamcommunity.com/app/2157560/discussions/0/4041481833167877002/>Remove Figure Mode censorship/black voidhttps://gamebanana.com/mods/484409Last Thread: >>556669024
I believe in white woman supremacy.
When does the update drop?
>>556800116the update is canceled
>>556800116Traditionally at 10AM Japan time, which would be 8PM EST
>>556800272thank you
UWE
When do the patch notes drop?
>>556800552lmao
>>556800552the patch notes are cancelled
>>556799991>super_yool_64.jpg
Meg killed the game
>>556800762just awful
Can I get uhhhh Djeeta 0 and 50 meter midscreen punishes. Inb4 praying that you're close enough to the corner for U rekka wall bounce
I saved it because she has a cute face
>>556800762We hate sloppa hereAnd also meg
Meg costume confirms Id. DoomGODS won
I HATE sloppaAlmost as much as I HATE Beatrix
>Getting another character is... le Doom!!!
>>556800762slow strokes
>>556800974I LOVE Beatrix!Because her voice actor is Aya Hirano!And I LOVE Aya Hirano!!!!
Have you heard of the high elves?
>>556800808don't be mean to her...
Getting a bad character is worse than no character at all
>>556801213https://youtu.be/_XR6dsy7ATE?si=rQ4OVWJEnTRJ5Oiu>>556801350Even worse
>>556801151How many TIMES must I repeat myself?I HATE Aya Hirano!WE hate Aya Hirano hereThis thread is Aoi Yuuki territory.
>>556801463Aoi Yuuki is overrated. Aya Hirano sucks.
seen any... elves?hahahaha
>>556800063White women
i luv sheep
English Anila is better than replaceable asian toddler voice number 3014
also I am the guy who wanted to fuck a tranny irl on my job
>>556801494Well, half your post is correct at least. >>556801581Trying way too hard buddy.
>>556801509HAHAHAHAHA
>>556800928unfortunate on both accounts
Fucking hilarious how everybody in here cared more about the shitty meg skin than Ilsa guide lmao
>>556801828ft10 bitch
>>556801828Its a fucking granblue character bro what the fuck do you expect us to saySeriouslyWow, a laser, wow, a rekkaWe've never seen anything like this beforeWhy are they even bothering at this point
>>556801892make za room
Can I watch and stroke my corn?
>>556801828I care more about the lack of notes
>>556800762Shark bearing hips
>>556801828ilsa looks boring
Meg's default costume only barely covers her ass, and Cygames wants me to pay money for one that... covers it completely?I don't get it.
>tech ult rocket>rocket disappearsyou already know this doesn't and won't apply to eustace grenade or other oki ultimates even in the new patchi really don't understand why the introduce these privileges that don't make any sense and just make the cast different in power in a bad way
>>556802550you guys had one job
>>556802550TO said he would play but forgot sunday was the most important holiday in america...
NNNNHYEEALL MY SYOULL WITH PYISS AND QUIYETMY ONE AND ONLY DYESYIRE
very funny, so where are the notes?
Ilsa will 66Lit will be significant
Ilsa's 66L literally has Kat's shoulder bash animationThe patch notes are coming in 2 hours and 12 minutes or 3 hours and 12 minutes
>>556803348I’m not falling for it again
>>556803231Stolen by kots
>>556803348you've fooled me too many times already
>>556802550
>>556803386Retard. I am not even the guy who said it yesterday. Feel free to come back to this post and apologize.
>>556803446>I'm not cucked out of the picture great pic miles better
I would quite literally, earnestly, even unequivocally bet the soul of the user above me that Vikala is not seeing a single change
>>556803863vikala is metera tier now
>>556803446Dare I say the best chibi orgy we had in the history of this general?
CYGAMES YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT, YOU COULD'VE GAVE US THIS BUT CHOSE THAT FAGGOT INSTEAD
>>556803904This, but only because Metera gets every buff she's ever received reverted and several more nerfs on top of thatLowain goes unchanged though
>>556803231Karyl pissed on them
>>556804162Adding a battlepass costume for the new character that just released with the same patch is dumb and weird, and it was dumb and weird when they did it before.
When I play Djeeta against most of the cast I feel like I'm playing a meh character that still has just enough to fight but when I play against Belial I just feel retarded for even choosing this dogshit character that does everything worse
>>556804162Nobody wants a hag in a swimsuit
Wasn't Charlotta suppose to get a new skin? What happened to this?
>>556804162Hate Meg more but at least Ilsafags get to suffer as well.
>>556805003She got it two battlepasses ago bro
HelloHow are you today?Will you eat something nice?
>>556803863
>>556806170that’s a pig
>>556805423FUCK YOU
https://x.com/tara_touketu/status/2020755887640744295
>>556805423>How are you today?nice>Will you eat something nice?im going to eat Vikala
>>556806325... what?what is FKHR's spawn rate
>>556806304hehe
One hour-two hours leftFKHRT is asking chatgpt to write up the changes as we speak
>>556806325>vaultHuh?
>>556807253Lmao, got vault too. And my twitter doesn't even translate to English.
2 minutes bros
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/news/detail/?id=ulceuzl6t
He didn't lie
>>556807512>small meaty againFuck this game and fuck Cygames
>>556807512Well at least Lowain's U wheel finally fuck off if you hit him.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
I LOVE MY RATWIFE
Holy shit, it's actually pretty big.
A major change this time targets the synergy between Mehen, Far Standing, and Spare Body while grounded. When used together, these tools proved overly oppressive—we've reduced Mehen's duration and increased recovery times to rein in their combined strength.
>Lowain compensation buffsDropped, uninstalled, removed from account, SSD thrown out of plane into the ocean
Thank fucking god!
>>556807818That alone should curb a good deal of the bullshit.
>>556807932Honestly, yeah, it was really fucking insane how it was always in his favor to the point he'd have time to recover from a knockdown and still combo from it.
Lowain is still turbo cancer what the fuck
• (Steam only) Fixed an issue in online lobbies where players would be unable to use button inputs after joining a match at a standby station with a text input dialog open. if im understanding this correctly...
>Additionally, M Spear of Arvess has been notably strengthened relative to the and versions, improving long-range approaches and combo routing.YOU MADE IT SHORTER IN 1.50 FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON YOU FUCKERS
>Moment of Truth (Also Disbands H.P.A., lol)>Frame advantage on hit and block have been standardized.>Distance from foe after block has been reduced.>Frame advantage even after a block string has been standardized to -6F. Does this mean HPA can actually be punished now?
>all that Zeta shitnow I ain't reading all thathappy for you thoor sorry it happened
YES, FINALLYThe zoner-zeta-meta is here.
>all society members are broken as fucki hope you're all happy.
>>556808224Who knows, maybe one day japs will learn to write
>>556808224When the buffer lets you, sure. Those retards should've made it -10 at least
oh no what happened
I came.
>Far Standing Recovery has been increased by 4 frames, changing frame advantage from -5F to -9F. Resident caggers told you this one button that got hit with a fucking 4f nerf was perfectly fine btw
THEY TOOK MY SCHWARZE FANGE
>>556807512>you can throw punish cags doing H teleport now>they finally gave f.H recovery frames
>>556808481Manigance and install actually exists bwo I'll take it.
caggies im sorry for whatever happened to you. i havent read it yet but i hope you got compensation buffs.
they made Luci's l teleport 3 frames fasterits gonna be so ass playing against that now lmao
BC and 66L still exist
>Six wall dives all have full invul nowWhat the fuck is wrong with these people, seriously
They nerfed Dormouse lmao
>>556808573Manigance maybe, but the install is still utter dogshit and not worth using. And they didn't fix the issues they created with their earlier nerfs, and instead more fully committed to their retarded "all or nothing" idea of him where he either explodes you or tickles you depending on the starter.
>>556808609when i read the patch description i almost thought they were going to do it.
so, did they giga buff vikky?also what happened with seox?
Vikala and Galleon got huge changes
>>556808693>>also what happened with seox?FKHR's homolust happened.
>no system changes>not even half the cast gets changedfor sure big ones coming in s3
Dropping a meteorite now consumes two levels, now consume two levels,
>>556808657Yeah, not sure how to feel about Bikky's compensatory nerfs in general.
>zeta 66h buffedNO
>Sieg L fireball increased clash level>permanent 130% damage for MY HANDI am not playing this game, what manner of kusoge is this
incoming wave of zetasalso can someone explain the galleon changes like im a toddler
Those Sieg changes look pretty good
>>556808930What is my hand?
>>556799991Thought this was mario odyssey
From what I've seen, looks pretty good.Should also be enough to shake up the meta a bit.Now I'm off to sleep.
They were suppose to nerf zooeywhy didn't they nerf zooey
>>556808990it's something like that, yes.it also comes with a fighting game
shitgames forgot to nerf like 8 characters...
>>556808979>>556808991Anon, where is your dooming?
>>556808384What character?
>>556808984sieg's 5Uhe can burn 3000 HP to permanently do 130% damage he has more HP than normal at 17k for some reason, so that just puts him at abel/seox health if he does all 3
Where are the Metera nerfs?
>>556809128
>>556808979As a Sieg player, I hate most of them. If SBA range is actually significantly nerfed I think I'll just quit for good.
>>556808817Consumes two levels Now consumes two levels
>>556809118That seems retarded.
>>556809095Looks cute and fun
>>556809191Sikhander? Where are you?? Open up.
>>556808693Some much needed QoL on her normals start upher huge j.H is really fast nowmore stupid ass broken spike balls her item feints might actually work nowM ratwheel is a real anti air nowU cannon now does something U teeth doesn't disappears on hit (lol lowain wheel lite)her c.H is still sucksNerfed dormouse because lol i guessidk if gigabuff but certainly buffs
>>556809191This guy just keeps making bets that revolving around him sucking cocks if he loses...and he keeps losing...
>>556809106miss me with that shit. never been a niertard
>Sieg is so dumb his 5U may as well not exist>Give an incentive to use it>NO NOT LIKE THIS RRREEEEEEEEEEEEWhat DO you want
>>556809117>>556809281Sorry, that was a completely different anon.
Where are the 2B changes?
>>556809307I want him to be nerfed to be worse than Vikala so chuuni fags get what they deserve
>>556809251it actually is. and what's better, you can try it for free.the game is about to get an influx of players in 2 days, so if you wish you can download the game for free on steam and play that mode. there aren't many courses, so i doubt you'll be playing for a thousand hours, but you can def get some fun out of it.
Teach me to play Metera
>>556809305Gay
>>556809527First step is to distract Vane.
>>556809284ult trap was pretty outclassed by how good H trap was so this was their sick and twisted way of making it good
Charlotta is now bottom 5 officially
>Siegfried buffed>suddenly zero shitposting with nier pictures attached to it
>>556809437Let it go anon, let go of all those bad memories from S1.
>>556809284>her item feints might actually work nowIt's only 5 frames faster. It still seems pretty useless.
the most important part of the update
So they nerfed Kat out of nowhere? Time for Katgawd to uninstall now I guess
>>556809717I'm saving my granbucks for Peg.
>L Orkan>Travel distance has been increasedORKAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
>>556809204Really makes me consume my levels.
>>556809687Just because Wilnas exists diesn't mean I will forgive having to respect Sieg mashing random buttons at half screen
>>556809284>her c.H is still sucksdoesn't going from 11f to 10f enable RC>cH?>U teeth doesn't disappears on hit (lol lowain wheel lite)... they realized it was a mistake for Lowain but decided it would be a good idea to give it to rat?Couldn't be Arcsys without a headscratcher I guess
>>556809425Still not nerfed unfortunately
>>556809779Okay then carry on being a salty clam.
>>556809769Consumes two levelsNow consumes two wubblys
That cheeky stealth rat and Galleon nerf
>>556809875Salty clams...
they buffed vicky 2M and item cancel so really I’m just happy with anything else
Galleon's 2nd SBA still completely useless
cag nerfed? metera untouched?
>>556809939That's like, at least double the Wubblies consumed, man. That's crazy. That's actually messed up.
>>556810008>cag nerfedlollmao
Why the fuck is Metera unchanged, and how much do I need to pay GolshiTO to shoot FKHR now that he's in Japan?
>>556809635better than getting frauded into the top tiers
>>556809437No one is gonna pick sieg over beatrix or whatever other retarded top tier went untouched anyway, and he's still just gonna be a 2M into yellow orkan machine and nothing else. He's not even a sword user, he's a fucking sentient leg.
>>556809891expansion when it releases you can buy it all together as a single package; if you already own the game, the expansion is a 30$ upgrade
>>556809307Almost like...there should be balance to it and not go full kuso
So they just turned Vikala into a Lowain + Metera hybrid?
>>556810236lollmao even#9 overall. #6 in low ranks. Almost certainly much higher in NA than JP where everyone and their inu plays Vira.
fitizen i hope you win awt
>lowain barely touched>metera untouchedI don’t understand
>>556810008good, i can keep improving with metera and be monarch's #1 disciple >puts arm around my boy pepsiwe dont want the new sieg changes, we want f.L back
What shock me is Perci being untouched, he is, afterall, undisputable top tier.
*zones you*
>>556810452U wheel finally being punishable is goodcheck any tournament and count the times lowains do U wheel in front of someone and dont get punished.but yeah it's barely anythingrest is random jargon I cannot understand
HAHAHAHHA FUCK YOU ANRETARDS CARRIED BUMS
>>556810513we already know tororo massages fuku's balls every day to leave percy alone
>>556809891Expansion
>>556810452Fighting game devs don't even pretend to not play favourites. Look forward to JP never getting nerfed for real in SF6 either
>>556810574>ANRETARDSDon't exist
>>556810443Ilsa stank
If you can always punish HPA now, that's a massive nerf to Lowain along with U wheel. He still has retarded shit like rockets but he can't even eat as often with the other moves nerfed. Metera is now the undisputed top 1 and will remain cancerAIDS possibly forever.
this was a very weird patch>we gave compensation buffs with those nerfs to lowainas expected ok>oh tehse mid/high tier characters? deleted the only thing they do (see Six, Uno and Zeta)kek what?its actually good that they distribute their power evenly instead of basing their entire character on one move but its funny as fuck
>>556810679>deleted the only thing they do (see Six, Uno and Zeta)What did they delete about those 3 charlottard
So Zeta can still do triple ultimates just not from midscreen and now they do more damage?
>>556810796Six's autowinning neuch with H fireballUno throwbaits with H spinZeta U Spear
>>556810969That's not the only thing they do though
>>556811098they were the most egregious oneslike when I think about Uno I think "h wheel throwbait", now it's minus
>Patch notes drop>No buffs for Djeetacool...
They are clearly been going all in on making this a gimmick fighter where every character wins through cheap stuff rather than neutral. No point in hoping for footsies or anything else at this point. I guess that's been this way for a long time already, but this patch is just a nail in that coffin.
also speaking of lucipic related, does this mean this is just a neutral tool? can you even combo from it now
>>556811318>29F startupisn't this slower than a raging strikeno audio clue but the screen shakes, you can evade it and cH punish itvery weird change... but I guess deserved for being a +6 on block dash
>>556811216When we think about Uno we think parry spam and full screen spear outta ass. Not the throwbait. Don't lie.>>556811318It's just a "fuck neutral" tool yes.
Nerf Cagli- oh wait
>>556811318looks like it's meant to be a pressure reset tool now that loses to spotdodge
>>556811304yeah you're right please leave already
>>556811424>When we think about Uno we think parry spam and full screen spear outta ass. Not the throwbait. Don't lie.yeah but like give me 500 Unos rather than a single Metera
>>556811437i dont play cag. i didn't read the patch notes or any post here. yet i am certain cagliostro got buffed overall.
small patch but I think they were good changes unironicallyproblem is the constant powercreep of the game, it really needs more nerfs to the top tiers. metera is top 1 now and has been around there for more than a year and some characters are abandoned like djeetalike katalina got I think 5 (five) total big amount of changes through the course of GBVSR, what the hell. 1st wave of buffs, 2nd, 1st wave of nerfs, 2nd, now this
>>556804162They should release Ilsa's swimsuit next battle pass, but censor that costume as well
When I think about Zeta I think about f-shiki
>>556811512Oh, look it's that same passive aggressive slurper! Love this one.
im sorry galleon players but you've been blocked
>>556811301Next patch, trust the plan
>>556811701color me surprised you're schizophrenic
>>556811686Let it go, anon.They really don't want it to exist.Ferry can keep hers, though
>>556811609I think she got nerfed the mostwhich is not much but stillcompensation buff she got is L spear and H spear hitting far, H spear goes fullscreen so she fucks over metera more I guessU spear groundbouncing is crazy tho
>>556811832im ready for u.spear corner swaps.
>>556811783>he thought he was subtle making the same posts all this timeLmao
>>556811947it's the easiest spear to evade because of bluescreen, fair enough I guessno seriously the only L of this patch is Metera getting untouched, I understand giving up on 66L and BC but Metera should've been raped
cog groundbouncing on my bbc jr crazy style
>>556811832will she even get a conversion off of u.spear if there are not traps set
The weak should fear the strong
>>556812190we'll seeif they're trannies yes, if they're good devs no
>>556812001>Metera should've been rapedyeah by me
Metera is not attractive at all because of the whore aesthetic
>>556812208this singlehandedly makes me fine with this being Metera's game
I haven’t played in months, how’s luci doing?
>>556812169i wish i was sexually attracted to cag
>>556811805An instant overhead is not an f-shiki.The point of an f-shiki is to do a mixup with an overhead that normally only hits standing.Ferry’s overhead is explicitly designed to hit crouching.
So when's that Avatar game releasing again? Or Tookon? I don't think either will be very good, but man, it's pretty crystal clear at this point that future patches will only make this game worse and worse and so I got no desire to keep playing.
>>556812421here you go bro
>>556812370That is literally the best part
>>556812536>Avatarmaybe good but I also play games for aesthetics and characters>Tokonflop on arrival + tag kuso
i dont play any of these characters, did lowain atleast get nerfed?
>buffed all of the characters i already hated playing against
>>556812639Wheel is no longer free pressure and his food is worse so yes.
is Beatrix still the lazy viable option bros
>>556812536>it's pretty crystal clear at this point that future patches will only make this game worseyall timmies have been saying this for over 2 years now>avatardelusional if you think this is going to be any better>Tokonarcsys capeshit tag fighter, doomed from the start
>>556812539>orbital buffsSweet. I felt like a sicko actually using it and it’s follow-ups so often but I’m glad I’m rewarded for it in the end.
>>556812690now you know how I felt during the giga vase buffs patch
>Metera untouchedHAHAHAHAHA this game is so shit, thank god I never took it seriously after it turned into a clownfest with the BC "nerfs"
>>556812370Holy homosexual
do any of you have that webm of sieg spamming verndrangen like the schizo soriz
Zeta-anon, I beseech thee.Here is my offering.What are your thoughts on Zeta changes? Please try to condense the text as much as possible instead of an autistic wall of runes that would make a certain fallen cag player proud.
Galleon’s buffs are cute, but they don’t solve her fundamental problems of having no neutral and having no good answers to other characters’ projectiles and neutral skips. Meteorite was already a poor answer to the later, and being able to throw more of them faster doesn’t change much. They did increase the clash level on U meteorite though so we’ll see what that does.
Ayo that nigga liked BC being plus lmao
>>556812621>I also play games for aesthetics and charactersIt has good aesthetics for a western game, it's very faithful to how the show looks. And I like most of the characters since they are from the original show, so far Korra is only one from her show and hopefully it stays that way. My primary concerns are that it looks high power comboslop kusoge with infinite mix-ups out of the ass where you lose once you get hit once, not my cup of tea.>flop on arrival + tag kusoIt's Marvel + ArcSys, I don't think it's capable of flopping. Even DNF Duel had over 10 000 player peak and that was a franchise that is unknown in the west. I cannot see a world where it actually performs worse than Rising. I don't like tag either, but I've also heard people say it plays more like 1v1 game with assists (they usually say this as a criticism though, which is weird as fuck). From the gameplay I've seen it does have combos that are too long, hopefully they'll shorten those but I'm not holding my breath.
>>556812208God I want to grab her cheeks, spread them and shove my tongue in her butthole as far as I can
>>556812950Holy peak taste*
>>556812961Mixing people up with Orkan command grab as oki is so bad yet it works incredibly well, the first time I do it in a match it always hits.
Love MeteraLove ZetaLove ZooeyHate VikalaHate Nier
status?
>>556813037>It has good aesthetics for a western game, it's very faithful to how the show looks.yeah im not super found of the avatar IP thats it. Im not into grub that much either but it has pretty anime graphics carrying it for me.but avatar being a 1v1 makes it already more appealing than the other options for sure
“Compensation” nerfs and buffs are the devs’ way of saying “we can’t balance for shit”
>>556813341they want every character to be viable but they're really bad at doing it
>>556813341what a retarded takebravo
>>556813341Correct take
>>556812998At least it was fair for everyone. Now setplay frauds like Lowain, Cag and Metera get to throw desynced shit for free that hits you as they block your BCs while other characters have to rely on risky, easy to wait out situations of cLs and jump ins.
>>556813381I don't think it's that, I think it's tied to player psychology. They know that players of any given character will feel bad when their character gets nerfed, so they give compensation buffs at the same time to lessen the blow. This is obviously bad if the aim was just to make the game better, but we have to remember that modern patches are also intended to boost and maintain the playerbase so that they keep spending money on the game. Games that have no additional purchasable content beyond the game itself generally speaking have better patches because they have less incentive to pander to the players' feelings.
>>556813171i get my asshole remodeled by orkan oki every single time and have no idea why.
>>556813571>, so they give compensation buffs at the same time to lessen the blow.Correct. It's all about Twitter cancer reaction culture these days
>>556813571>They know that players of any given character will feel bad when their character gets nerfed, so they give compensation buffs at the same time to lessen the blow.yeahbut to be fair, the characters in this are designed like shitagain, it took 2 years to finally make Sieg's 5U and U orkan usable for examplethey're just so badly designed, half of these characters kits are unusable or severely weaker than spamming X overpowered option they have
whats monarch gonna buy with that 50 grand?
>>556812972The patch is apparently so good, that Shosan did an emergency meeting-stream.214X~M punches through multhits (if the Rhapsody armored the attack before), which is massive. This deletes on of her main weakness on defence.623U is not just a regular lariat, fuck neutral.2M being 8 frames is massive and justifies the deletion of 623U as a combo-tool.Still kinda sucks, but Zeta is probably buffed now.Can't really say what 623H wallbouncing will do for combo-routing, probably still good stuff.Laser being 3 frames on recovery is massive. She could already zone in some match-ups, but it was very risky against other characters, very punishable.So, Zeta now has a better fireball, stronger defense (Rhapsody and 2M), is potentially easier to execute, and there are also some damage increases.People will HATE her even more, now.We might actually see top 8 Zeta.
>>556813037>it looks high power comboslop kusoge with infinite mix-ups out of the ass where you lose once you get hit once, not my cup of tea.it is real talk if you can't handle grub just straight up quit the genre. no shame, if anything it's a smart choice I can't imagine someone who gets buckbroken by this baby game faring any better in games with actual bullshit in it
I'm not reinstalling
we need a bruise only client
>>556812540good character design. they should add her maybe.
>>556809858c.Hc.H cant combo after RCThe hitbox is unchanged so its still shit that cant antiair and annoying to use in juggles It still not 1600 damageIts still punishable on blockStill cant... actually, she CAN frametrap into it with c.L now AND CH c.H > c.H also works nowNevermind, I am wrong. It does not suck anymore, its a real button now
Is Ex Narmaya better than Narmaya?
>>556814936drastically worse
>>55681462010f startup is enough to work off RC, it should work now
Am I retarded or are Zeta's inputs kind of weird?
>>556815089press down to go up
>>556815030I meant RS sorry. For grounded combos in the corner, need 9f for that.
Are you happy now, ratpedos?
ratcels with their new top 5 charnice zoner meta, what we've all wanted
>>556813914I'm not buckbroken by Rising, I just think that the game has a few universal mechanics that seriously bring the game down and that every time they patch the game gets worse, which is not a great feeling to have. There are a few match-ups where neutral actually exists, and those are by far the most fun match-ups. So it would be nice if there was a game that was alive and had that, which I don't think is unreasonable to want.
they nerfed her one good zoning tool though
>>556813381You have not played a fighting game with a genuinely unviable character and it shows
>>556816219grub toddlers always say retarded shit. they are born with the retard gene
ummmm, they just forgot to post the metera and ferry nerfs, right?
>>556816834
This patch buff-nerfed some characters that really needed it, so in conclusion Ferry and Metera got buffed
Doomchads won
>>556816219you didnt understand me, theyre doing a bad job because every is cancer to play against
>vikala buffswho asked for this
>>556817260Ratpedos
>>556817260tako
>>556817260Every heterosexual
The time to be mice is over. Kneel before your new rat overlords!
I like the changes to Faasan. Making stance stronger is funny, though, because I felt like some characters already had a hard time with it, and it will be worse now for them, but also being able to shorten my cooldowns by going into it is pretty cool.H Iscariot being a pressure reset is neat, but I will have to see how feasible it is to sneak it in since it's almost 30 frames. I'm excited to see what the fewer frames of recovery do for the L teleport as I often get people by doing L teleport and they do a delayed DP to beat M and H and I block it haha.
>>556817828He will be pretty retarded now. Stronger than his top tier version a year ago
It wasn't a big meaty, which means hopecucks lost, again.
>>556817962Maybe. I am thinking of that specific route they mentioned that's gonna be possible now. Counter hit c.h into heavy iblis. That fireball lasts long enough for me to go into stance for a few seconds and possibly do the m followup from which I can link from.
>>556817828>Making stance stronger is funny, though, because I felt like some characters already had a hard time with it, and it will be worse now for them, but also being able to shorten my cooldowns by going into it is pretty cool.thats rising's philosophy in a nutshellrandom ass buffs that just make polarizing MUs worse
>>556818235they want you to swap character to fight him right? but it doesn't work in ranked so...
>>556818147I am more interested in seeing the level meter increase from the stance when you hold it for more than one second. Could be really dum
>>556818419We will have to see. I do like that he can still get his amazing rewards from level 5 but not as fast as he could before the nerfs where he would just throw shit on block and whiff and get to level 5. Using stance is more fun for me, I love hitting people jumping preemptively with stance H and comboing off it.
So they actually unironically made Zeta a zoner, buffed rhapsody and nerfed Arvess
you can tell fkhr genuinely believes he deserves to live
>>556817828>will have to see how feasible it is to sneak it in since it's almost 30 framesWilnas has proved this will be no issue
>>556818718What did he mean by this?
>>556818785i am filled with more rage right now than I have ever felt in my entire life
>No metera nerfs>No metera nerfs>No metera nerfs
>>556808693>seoxI'm trying to figure that out myself.>hey we gave you new cancels>they're all minus on block though>also we're taking your plus on block pressure reset???The dash H change is something I love to see, but lowering its clash level sure is a choice.
>>556818592The good thing about stance was always that you forced the opponent to play your game and come to you, unless they were fine with eating 60% from f.M in a near future. Combine that with a teleport and there is no place on the stage where he couldn't threaten something. Now with big buffs to both he is even more dangerous. Top 10 might be a given.
>>556818847Explain in further detail.What did you want from the patch and what you didn't like from it?
>>556818883Despite retards in this thread screeching aboit plus frames because they've never played a fighting game before, They have a weird tendency to just murder plus on block moves at random and act like its nothing
bikki buffed
>>556818147This is what I saw when I read 34f. Now he doesn't just have to orbital stance after the first hit, he can do a lot crazier CH options.I'll have to force myself to use stance more, since that's where they're leaning. I'm not seeing the purpose of the H Iscariot change, I guess the idea is to make it like Vira 214M where you forsake it being a real link to simply steal pressure.Unlike her, though, that puts your ender on an insane cooldown so even if you get an opening, your routing will be fucky.>>556819026We'll see, I also don't understand the empty hand changes but I rarely ever used it outside U since they were all just low reward high risk options.
>>556818639I love the phrasing on 623U like it's some sort of tradeoff when it's a huge nerf. Her ult skill wombos are truly gone, but I guess that means she should never hold onto 100 meter since she can only do 75 combos now.Which is... fine? >stuff stuff stuff > RS > RC, 22U, 623UThat's just gonna be it now midscreen if you have 100 meter. You'll just end with 50 instead of one more extension.Well, you could 236U after the 22U, but it will do so little damage...
yum yum i like spare body being minus yum yummy yum yum and short trap duration>rubs bellyyum yum
>>556819389In short, Shosan is still not winning anything.
>>556819147I think the reasoning behind that might be the change to stance, since it now reduces your cooldowns while you are in it so maybe they want you to feel free to throw out H iscariot more in neutral, since you could get it back faster, but we will have to see how much it reduces cooldowns.
>>556819530They listed a major change as lowering the floor, so yeah.I do enjoy that, maybe new midscreen routes open up with that increased hitstun so you can actually do things that aren't 1f links midscreen for confirms. Could also change corner routing as well.>>556819593Well, any knockdown in this game puts you at +40 something, so maybe they just want you to forsake oki for a more intimidating stance setup thats also going to be getting those skills back asap.As someone who can't vary his offense for the life of him, I'm down for that.
>>556819389Deleting the midscreen combo in favor of making it safe on block seems like a sidegrade no?
>>556819530Not that anon, but Zeta will be more consistent now, especially on defense.Overall, though, these buffs really help new players or people that simply aren't so good at Zeta (me). For the pros, it's probably not such a huge deal.
>>556819501Nier lobby avatar coded post
>>556819719Some characters are gonna hate this change. Example with Ladiva is that sometimes if I landed a hit midscreen and could go into a full confirm, I would end it with medium fireball and send her fullscreen and go into stance, and there was nothing the Ladiva player could do to stop me. Now it's gonna be worse because I'm gonna get my cooldowns back too.
>>556819740Well no because if you're doing it as an opener it... does nothing now.Why risk it for the biscuit on no reward when you can fish for counter hit 236M now for combos. That seems to be the design intent, 623U is now just an ender for the most part. The "buff" to it as a burst option is rather pointless, at least in my scrub ass opinion.>>556819925I'm hoping we can just end the air cXXX sequence with 5U~L or 5U~H now to allow multiple ending routes.But yeah, they seem to want to push us back to boss mode>you come to megameplay.
i think tetsuya fukuhura is genuinely a more evil human being than like Jeffrey Epstein
>>556820125Elaborate in 100 words or more
Now that Bikky is buffed, that means Niia is unironically bottom 1. Don't lose to a Niia after the patch, that means you're bad at the game.
>>556820208Wrong. Being bottom means nothing in a bs game where everyone is a gimmick fraud.Zato is bottom 5 in soive, so what. Same with fraud called Nier
>>556820125i think he has caused a greater amount of humans to suffer than jeff and more frequently since the victim list is smaller than the playerbase of this game and also most of them got abused and then killed meanwhile rising players are getting constantly hurt with these patches and also just playing the game is a harmful experience to go through innately
>>556819501Cags will just keep using air spare body instead
>>556820081Another one is this. I'm not exactly sure what this entails because to me this reads like H follow up tracks people to an extent lol. That would be really fun
>>556820152>>556820390so mad i couldn't reply to the right post
>>556820505yeah, if you can use it as a mid screen ender alongside 236L/M and 214M then I'm hella down.No idea if we'll even be able to use H Iscariot in combos now but it's not like it actually matters, all it did was add half a character width to corner carry.
>>556820505I think that just means projectile goes further
>>556820579I'm more than certain Jeff caused more suffer over the years than a couple thousand
>>556820804Couple of thousands, daily for hours playing this game.
Clearly the devs' intention in this patch is to let you know that if you're not a zoner or have zoning tools then you should just stop playing.
What characters are in the AWT? Besides Metera
>>556820630I honestly don't mind the change to H Iscariot by itself since I always thought it was weird that all of his specials do different things, except for M and H iscariot which do the same job basically and now M should be able to do everything H could.
>>556820871
>>556816451You're just jealous because we have more genes than you.
>>556821008Ferry, two Cags, Bea/Belial, two Grimnirs, two Vaseragas, Charlotta, Soriz, Sieg, two Lowains and whatever Gamera and Socky are going to play.
>>556821106a shame ult ball doesnt get armor like soriz ult punchsigh, this is just not a good game
>>556821008Ferry (Kasausagi)Charlotta (Xerom)Belial (Kojicoco)Cagliostro (Space / Zangief_Dream)Grimnir (Usagi / Zane)Vaseraga (JF / debagame)Metera (Monarch)Lowain (Shio / Pixi)Soriz (Skyll)Meg (gamera)Siegfried (Fitizen)Katalina (Socky)Consider that most players have an emergency Beatrix, sometimes a pocket Lowain.
>>556820871>just stop playing soon
>>556821452>>556821352You know that site where you can bet on everything? Just go and bet on Monarch for an easy payout.Poor Xerom lmaoI was sure Charlotta was gonna get buffed alongside other characters this patch.
I might buy gbvsr for a girl I met in an unrelated game but we started talking because of gbf, since she already has relink or is that too corny bros?
I hope that after this patch no one is retarded enough to believe that we'll ever get another big meaty.
It's time to admit it.
>huge list of sandy changes>change none of the stuff that makes people not use the stancesWhy would I ever use anything but fire?>wind and earth fuck up midscreen routing>wind, earth, and water murk your damage>wind particularly makes you made of paperGee guys why does everyone only use fire, if they even install?
Zeta moving from #1 most honest character to #0 most honest
>buffing lucinig
>>556821115Based trisomyGOD
why the fuck did they buff seig
>>556822814He got nerfed though.
>>556822814Collusion to give Fitizen a fighting chance
>hey you know how this was no reward on hit (or counterhit) and safe on block?>we changed it so it's no reward on hit (or counterhit) and safe on blockI guess now I'm on top of them and minus instead of a little spaced and minus? yay?If it had one more frame you could at least combo on a crouching counterhit...
Can't believe Cag Gaming is dead
YEAH YEAH! GOOD!
>kat already struggling>they gut her strongest normal
>>556824406YAY YAY LOVE YOU KATGAWD NOW UNINSTALL!
Where is this shit for piece of shit Ferry ball?????????? God I hate this pick and choose shit so much.
>>556824406It still has the same startup and total frames, it just doesn't linger for eternity anymore.
>>556824713I was talking with a friend thinking this would be good for interaction, but he correctly pointed out people will still just down back and delay tech since combos only take away two spears anyways.I don't know how you balance this shit without gutting it. Unlike Ferry ball, this is legit 20 seconds of downbacking while you wait for Anre to time himself out.
https://x.com/khfrees/status/2020786666386972821/photo/1
Eat shit sandal nigs
>>556824858Ferry ball instantly wins neutral from full screenGives a full comboLasts for 10 billion years so all your attempts to run away from it are meaninglessIt gives her a real 5050 on block tooAnd restores a bp on activationUno's shit is whatthefuckever in comparison. It's not a ball of death that goes in tandem to control the whole screen and fuck you.
>>556825067I'm not excusing Ferry ball from a meta level, I'm saying it's at least something that you interact with for about 5 seconds and dip.Anre's install is unironically forever until he decides to spend it all. How do you balance that to encourage anything but down backing when every single interaction is in his favor?
>>556825182>I'm saying it's at least something that you interact with for about 5 seconds and dipAnd I'm saying that it's not. Where do you "dip" from a 50/50?
Just woke upWas Granblue saved?Zooey, Metera, Cag and Lowain nerfs?
>>556822814S1 won an online with Percival so they wanted to make sure that didn't happen again.
>>556825263You block it or don't anon. I think you're missing the point.Ferry's bullshit has a given endtime. It's not like it bounces around forever until someone gets hit, be it you or Ferry.I'm not saying Anre's is better, I'm saying it promotes less interaction with the opponent. I've watched people through Ferry through her ball. That doesn't mean it's worse.
GET OUT THE WAY YO GET OUT THE WAY YOCAGLIOSTRO JUST GOT SHOT
>>556825414>throw Ferry throughPoint being, Ferry's is a definitive>oh fucksuper that you play around a little bit then either win or lose (usually lose)Anre will actually have you downbacking for 20, 30s because that is the CORRECT thing to do and that's just not fun for anyone.
where's ilsa? can't see her anywhere in-gamei got up from my bed and downloaded the game just to goonbto ilsa where is she?
>>556824735it being active is a big part of what made it so good and kat is nothing without her normals being strong
>>556825503Okay Shirolamb, nobody cares. You haven't even played in a month.
>Luci buffs>Galleon buffs>Vikala buffs Dead slop game
>>556825674So you do understand what I mean and now you're embarrassed. Sorry, anon.>>556825662being able to fish out a major CH hit with cH seems nice now. Your mediums are still unaffected. I think you'll manage just fine.
>>556825815> and now you're embarrassed. Sorry, anon.No, that's your fantasy projecting. Nobody cares about Uno here to take conversation about him seriously except Unotards.
All of this just to have it get beat by 66L in the same situation.>>556825965It's okay to just leave when you're wrong, anon.
>>556826112>It's okay to just leave when you're wrong, anon.What? You didn't prove nor disprove anything I said. Ferry's SBA is a bigger piece of shit than Uno's. My stance didn't change. I simply decided to call you out for fun because there is 1000% no one else here who would care about the midget bitch except you kek
>>556825815having better combos from CH cH doesn't make up for having her most important normal nerfed like that
>>556826361This but with Sieg.
>he continues to seetheSad.>>556826361just time for more mediums in gameplay, I suppose. I actually should check what the average fL active frames are. Seem to be anywhere from 3 to 6.
>>556826530>had no rebuttal + too afraid to reply directlyOk, I will leave you alone and won't bully you further since you got scared this much, mr not-playing-but-still-here-like-a-loser.
Zeta's fireball being safe now means that she' will have Narmaya style fireball pressure nowKinda wild thinking about.
>literally incapable of stoppingThanks for the (you)s, retard-kun.>>556826734Still rollable/spot dodgeable for a good punish, but it's a pretty fair blockstring ender which is nice. It also puts her 2M as a great option to crush anyone using fL to try and check her afterwards. Though if they use their own medium, you get smoked.
>enjoy being a noob! it only happens once!yes, enjoy getting curb stomped heheyou are only a noob once so have fun with it, i for sure will be having fun stomping you and doing You Are Great! on your corpse after i devour you hehewhy the fuck do people say that
>>556826530mediums are not a replacement for f.L in a game with 66L
>>556826958>>556826958>>556826958>>556826958>>556826958
>>556826734Zeta has finally become the zoner she was always meant to be.
>>556827046That's how the Roo's get you, so they can continue to consume your tender newbie flesh
>>556827353those fucking roo's ain't shit
>2 of my characters buffed>Beatrix unchanged I knew I wasn't wrong in investing big in white women since launch, you plebs just don't have the vision.Imma enjoy my saucy new buffs and mechanics, stay mad.
>>556827534I main Djeeta... where's my white woman buffs...
Is there a date yet for Relink's dlc?
>lowain got a slap on the wrist>but also got compensation buffsreally now?
>>556827278As someone who played Zeta in vanilla this is sadly 100% true. Boxing out is way harder with the existence of 66L. I believe in you, Katbro. You can do it~>>556827754July 9th.
Wait what the hell?
>>556827876You don't need those settings.
>~Gay
>>556827876...are they going to remove her stacks in the next patch? That's a super odd change.
damn a nothingburger patch
>>556640772A bit delayed, but thanks for everything.
>Previously: Pay 1500 life to deal 150% more damage>Now: Pay 3000 life to deal 130% more damageAnd people call this a buff lmao. Manigance will become even less used than it was before. Dealing more damage in a 2-touch game is relatively worthless unless it crosses into ToD territory. Especially since it doesn't affect throw damage.
These Luci buffs are actually insane.>5U has more utility, better frames overall and better hitboxes>Faster cooldowns>More consistent combos>Plus on block gapcloser>Better fireball game in every waySo glad i picked up this nigga just to upplay him when i lose to 214U out of nowhere.Now i can downplay him in earnest which officially means he's my secondary.Sucks for you guys i guess, not that i care lol, go die.
>>556828804The fact you Sieggers are getting buffed at all is madness and you should be glad you are allowed to keep on playing the game normally while Nier was killed in the gutter a year ago. Character has been cancerous overpolyvalent shoto with nonsensical privileges like 17k hp and big body tier damage since the game released. Even with simple and effective counterplay, absolutely no one is enjoying playing against Sieg having to move around his 2/3rd of screen hitboxes and his neutral ignoring fireball. You guys are also dumb as fuck, I don't recall the last time I saw a Sieg in Master who wasn't Dping in each tiny fucking gap possible, even when baited 7 times you keep doing it, truly the players embody their character.
>>556828804to be fair, you can just go to 2 stacks for 2k and have it be permanent for the match.>>556829091don't get too cheeky with 214H, it's one they can mash out of now.
>>556828791Thanks for you service TO-KunWhich part of Nihon will you be moving to?And just out of curiosity how far away is that from Cygames HQ haha?
>lowain compensation buffs>kat can probably just get 236[H] on crouching nowI'm gonnaI'm gonnaI'M GONNA
>>556828791Is that someone who made a pic for TO or a TO making one more post thanking everyone? I'm pretty sure the first one, but the anon who replied to this is clearly confused.
>>556829632>Is that someone who made a pic for TOThat one, I thought it was obvious....
>>556829742Yeah, it was. I just didn't want to call out the retard who replied to it thinking otherwise in a rude manner.
>>556829797Eh, I assumed it was easier for him to answer to my post rather than one from an archived thread.
It’s cagOVER sisters…
>>556827769What did you expect them to do? Nerf HPA being an automatic checkmate against opponents with <20% life left?
>>556828804We all know you still wouldn't press 5U even if your mother's life depended on it Siegsissy.They basically acknowledged that in the patch by masking Verdrängen a braindead poke tool that you all used it as anyway.
Does Sieg's install damage stack with his 5U stacks?
>>556830098Still invul on wake up btwFuck my life
>>556830490No
https://x.com/RazFGC/status/2020872497944555937
>ex characters>no pick rate>no patch noteslol
>>556831012it's more like this
>TO leaves>Ilsa looks boring as shit>dogshit patchkino
>Doombwo spindoctor is inGlad you could make it bro, nobody cares tho.
Uno was a cunt to play against but how the fuck did he get nerfed while Metera was untouched? These devs are beyond retarded.
>>556830910So that means that he will have less dmg but basically permanent uptime on the bonus dmg once he hits 3 stacks?Seems fair to me.
I would rather play against Metera than current Uno.
>>556832272
My new Zeta flowchart will be mashing fireball into Rhapsody and you will respect it.
>those Uno changesI'm extremely confused, the buffs they gave him do nothing to address his problems and that 236L buff is going to be extremely problematic for his strongest matchups where he's already forced to zone opponents out (though at least it'll make the Metera matchup slightly less terrible).The throw bait nerfs are deserved, the [2]8L nerf leaves me slightly salty, the install nerf is confusing but probably directed as Japanese Uno players rather than meThe character will be as fine as he was last patch but I don't even know what they're going for with this
>These Seox changes
>>556832697>the buffs they gave him do nothing to address his problems and that 236L buff is going to be extremely problematic for his strongest matchups where he's already forced to zone opponents outYou just described most buffs in this game
>>556832816>H empty hand forces crouch on hit>rekka nerfed, no more turn stealing>can 5U out of normals (but with the current reading you can't combo off it unless it's counterhit due to a recovery nerf)>66H got totally reworked and will still get stuffed by 66L
>>556832984Thanks sexobro
>>556832984What about the "invincible on dash", I cant stuff it mid-way anymore?
>H waterball stays on hit, windballs have f i v e hits>U mousetrap stays on hit, more spikeballs>best punish on HPA is a 2L (instead of nothing, but still, fuck you)>galleonI don't like itat least cag got nerfed (actual) and lowain can't just mash browheel anymoreno metera nerfs is fucking insanity though. and I expected some vas nerfs toohonestly this entire time I already thought M verdrangen was like 0 or +1 or something and had been using it as such so this is good news to me
>>556833341metera being untouched is the biggest Lvaseraga has some counterplay, some, metera is literally just mash retarded nigger shit and guess for life
>>556831012>>556831658wait, they buffed zeta, seox and kat?
>>556833337Nah, when he hits the wall, you have to spot dodge or block. Or jump if you're feeling super bold, I guess.It still gives no reward on L or M hit, I assume, or they would have mentioned it.
we are cooked
we are boiled
I can't tell if this patch saved Rising or killed it for good.
>>556829091I think I'm going back to Faa-san with this patch
Siegfried might actually be cool and less lame now that they're actually going in on trying to make him abel lite.
>>556829230>You guys are also dumb as fuck, I don't recall the last time I saw a Sieg in Master who wasn't Dping in each tiny fucking gap possible, even when baited 7 times you keep doing it, truly the players embody their character.Literally just ran into one like that on ranked yesterday.
>patch is out>instead of nerfing all the cancer they just shift the cancer around a bit
ill just quit on viras, galleons and 2lame
>>556834901is it not tomorrow?
>>556835012i meant patch notes
>>556833462I play him and think they just need to completely revert the soul forge gauge. it was not a good idea. do that and he goes back to having one chance after paying the 40 frame tax, and I think he's fine. being able to chain armor together was not a good design. plus the gauge results in some unnatural shit sometimes where you hit them with your buff up and do any kind of combo, which starts your gauge ticking down, so when you knock em down and 5U again you have the shitty SF on a timer you need to spend NOW instead of being able to just play stable and spend it as you choosehe's still got real weaknesses that I personally think put him at the bottom of top tier, but soul forge is in a really stupid state now and the whole character's propped up by it and held together by U Instinction brand duct tape. I'm pretty fucking bad thoughbut metera, man I don't even fucking know. she just seems extremely good at everything>>556834449pretty sure people will continue not using manignance. I'd throw one stock in because it was 500 health for more damage for basically the whole round, now it's 1000 for one stock the whole round. more than that seems wasteful. it's a weird design because stocking multiple times only gets better later in a round when you can do stuff like put yourself into SSBA range with it, but by that point they're (probably) already damaged, so the buff is going to wasteI will take install buffs though because I enjoy throwing rounds away trying to use it and the jump arc changes sound sick. I don't know why they don't just treat it like soriz's install and have it not use the meter, only require it. it already costs 50% of your health where soriz's can make him a 22k hp character with a command grab super
It's weird that they gave Vikala the ability to throw items upward to feed herself cheese and hearts but only while jumping...
>Try to read patch notes>Nothing makes sense because I don't know the official move names
>>556835503Upon re-reading it I might be dumb.I think "tosses item upward" just refers to the way 4U already does it an all they changed is that 1/7U now also work.
>>556835521You can check them in dustloophttps://www.dustloop.com/w/GBVSR
>>556835503That's not what it is, right now, to do her short thrown in the air you specifically need to do j.4U. they are making j.7U and j.1U also work now
>my characters did not get touched this patchfeels good
Sisters, we're bottom 5 nyowhttps://x.com/i/status/2020798724591489341
so vikala can frame trap cL > cH now?
Caggots, your response?
>No Metera nerfs>No Ferry nerfs>Added Vikky to the game>Gave Zeta a better fireball>Made Luci's fireball better>Cag is still gonna spear my ass from fullscreen at eat all my buttons>Sieg's pokes got even betterPercival 9/11 type patch.
>>556836756I love Bubz bros
>>556836329Troonlotta players are obsessed with downplaying their retarded furby character
What would they even nerf on Metera, U Butterfly? They're not going to make her fireballs worse and those are the majority of why she's good. They can't remove her 5U, it's too central to the character. They can't make her unable to use BC, that's a universal mechanic. And if she has those three things she's going to be really, really good.
>>556837496Your character probably has a functional 5H right?
I gotta play around with new cag to see how I feel. I'm not really sure how she's supposed to deal with 66Lers now with shorter trap duration and -9 5h but the spear changes are very nice. They also FINALLY fixed that stupid bug where she faced the wrong way after j22H. New combos with rock and U spear seem cool
>>556837609My characters doesn't have 50 mixups off of jump
>>556837589shorten f.L rangenerf U butterflymake arrow rain always always always go away if you hit her. make butterflies always always always not have hitboxes if you hit hermake BC distance character-specific. zoner-type character BCs leave the opponent minus and about 1/4th the screen away. grapplers and rushdown characters leave the opponent minus and about 3/4ths the screen away. shotos are somewhere in between. BC never counterhits
>>556836329My HERO has spoken.It's your job to listen.
>>556836390Percival can with his 10f c.H
>>556837589revert the buffs on her normals
>>556837609>Constant whining about her 5H>Yet Troonrom still throughs it out during tourneysIf even the best Troonlotta uses her 5H, then it's a functioning button with a purpose
>>556809305this woman has a cock
>fat, black man downplaying hours
>>556837589Give her worse normals and air normals so she can't 5U you for free. She can keep her cancerous zoning but there's no reason for her to be so strong up close as well.
Fuck Troongames for buffing Troonkala Troonlleon and Troonox and keeping Troontera Troonrry and Troonseraga unchanged
>>556823849zangief dream found dead in arc world tour bathroom
>>556838450BasedasedSpitting FACTS!
>>556838146NTA but you use the tools you're given, even if they're shit. My main has one of the worst sweeps in the game and I still use it sometimes.A shit button having a very niche use doesn't make it not shit.
Why did they nerf Anre when nobody plays him even with however strong he was?
>>556834290Did they nerf 66L and BC? Ultimates? No? Then it's not saved, that's for sure
>>556824713does this mean he loses the entire install or does it mean that uno can't trade with you and get a combo as the singular projectile will just vanish
>>556836329He is right.
>>556838832Are you talking about 2U? How does one have a bad 2U? Is it not cancellable on hit/block?And Tarlotta's spam 5H too much for it to ever be bad. When people say bad I expect it to be base Vira's 236M kind of bad.
>How does one have a bad 2U?
isnt zeta like top tier since forever? why did they buff her. why nier not buffed wtf
>people keep saying Anre was nerfedI am confident none of you can read.>>556838892If you hit him he will lose 2 spears. This will only apply once for the combo, he doesn't lose 2 spears for every hit during it.
>>556836951I think it's funny that Ilsa has 9 stocks, starts the round with them full, takes like 10 frames to instantly fill all 9 of them, and can choose to use them to empower specials that are still usable without themThe entire thing reads like a joke specifically at Percival's expense
>>556839438Isn't this a good one though? It's multihit.>>556839491I don't play him (nobody does) but to me the fact that his spear doesn't blow through projectiles anymore seems like a big nerf.
>>556839219>How does one have a bad 2U?By being really slow and without ridiculous range like Ferry's to justify it. Pic related is just Eustace's already poor 2U but with less range and more recovery.
>>556839661Oh and also her stock refill is on her U, so she actually has 4 specials
>>556839480>isnt zeta like top tier since forever?Well, I guess I can delete this pic from my harddrive now.Although, I don't think these buffs will change her tournament performance that much
>>556839661>takes like 10 frames to instantly fill all 9 of themI'm not saying that she doesn't get to refill basically for free, but the animation is about 40 frames
>>556839770>shit range>shit recovery>outclassed by her 2M>only use is for cancelling a hit into command grab, but realistically that would only work on a competent opponent once and if they get hit by the sweep you are -47 and in their face
Cagbros... we went from top 3 all the way down to top 5... It's over...
>>556838843If it wasn't obvious, these are targetted nerfs with the sole intent goal of fucking specific players because devs are mad or something.Uno nerfs is only because Osakana won Arcrevo and that's a jap tourney so cygames concluded fuck this guy.Lowain nerfs is because Shio won Lagless cup, once again in nipland.Cag nerfs are because of Zangief dream mostly but also Space very probably (even he admitted himself).Sieg buffs are because Tororo and Fitizen switched from him to better chars, so he's getting buffed even though he's totally fine and even undeniably high tier in the overall power level.Zeta buffs are because devs are mad no one plays Zeta despite everyone crying she's somehow top5 since launch, shosan could have a mole within cygames who suggest all balancing idea to make zeta less gimmicky but stronger to excuse his constant choking.Recent DLCs buffs are just to get more character variety in tourneys.Kat buffs are just to spite Brick in particular, probably suggested by shitposter from here who has ties with cygames.
>>556821671do it bro, you're in there, you should date while playing granblues
djeetabros, our rekka…
>>556839770M and H spear still win the fireball wars free, this is just like when Zeta L fireball got gutted to stop just winning for free.
>>556840478She's the worst shoto now
The absolute farce Djeeta has to endure while Gran shits out 10k off a 1/3 screen convert is insane.Djeeta 5U WISHES it was as good as Gran's.
But djeeta said gamewa is top 3
>light wall now has mandatory 17f startup after shielding its one single hitbut whyalso free whiff punishes and halved active frames on f.l
No no, hehe no no you already called whats his face "grangod" so you officially signed the contract accepting gran's damage and skill>gently pats you on the head
How many hours until the patch is out?
>>556837589seals in general probably need their hitboxes reduced and possibly have more recovery. im torn on whether you should nerf her mediums or gut the ever living shit out of f.l. her 66l should not even exist im a massive shitter though.
>>556841586Should be in 7 or 8 hours.
hey green nier remember when you were crying about djeetado you feel stupid againyou should*smacks you**kisses you*
>OH MY RICE FIELDS *eats raw egg*>HONTONI*works overtime for the 8th day in a row*>YAMETE*lets in 5 million indians*>FERRY NERFUSU DESUKA???*puts main in top 5 and stops playing them*>EEEEHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh.....?!?!?!?*jobs to random in pools*Soka soka...*doesn't have children*
>>556840478Please understand, we can't have her get a wallbounce from midscreen... that would be too powerful!
>Don't even main any but one of the characters newly changed>But alot of the changes look really interesting and cool that I want to try them outActually nice list of patch notes
>>556837589literally just make u butterfly go away on hit or block like every other setplay thing in any other arcsys game ever made
>>556841805post the face. you know the one. with the filename.
>>556842057I'm not actually in the clique so i dont know what you're talking about
>>556841884only the nerfs look nice
>>556841982how about they make the butterflies have a longer fucking startup so metera can't throw them for free in neutral?
>>556842269fundamental character moveset alterations like in Galleon, Lucilius, Sandalphon and Zeta are already interesting enough for me
>>556841818>*works overtime for the 8th day in a row*>*puts main in top 5 and stops playing them*>*jobs to random in pools*>*doesn't have children*All me
>>556842297butterflies don't have any wildly different frame data from any other setup special
>>556842449they should
'nt
https://youtu.be/06eG0HDhGOw?si=y5DTvlDkXnBTC4AI
Butterflies now have 10 more frames of startup. But they now automatically detonate and you can negative edge the move to delay the detonation
>>556841982>Forgetting 2B stupid drone doesn't go away on hit.ngmi
The VA sounds like she was fucking exhausted at the end.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS0UI5oYXr4
>>556842913Wow, 2B is bullshit and breaks established rules??Who could have thought???!!!!??!!
>>556842932>dubfuck off bwick
His Game.
>>556841805dead rising game>kisses kunimitsu (spring release date) on the lips>she gets pregnantdead granblue rising
>>556842932Because it's not a VA>hurdedur yeah cause they're englishI seriously need to know where the fuck this reddit rumor instantly becoming reddit fact started, 5 fucking years of these guides and retards suddenly start thinking it's the character actor doing the guides and subniggers latch onto it for dear life desperate to go "SEE! SEE! ALL DUBS ARE BAD!" because the fucking coffee fetcher print machine operator they get to record the guides is kind of monotone because they're told to be because that's what all arcsys character guides are always likeThis shit is exhausting
>>556843294putting a silly looking generic anime girl in almost convinced me to try tekken
>>556843395Alright but we love the goldlewis trailer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTHYTL9af5Y>in THIS Behemoth Typhoon, Goldlewis swings his cock
>>556843395t.Least asspained dub defender
i didnt know we had a genuine dub apologist here
>>556843445I play tekken exclusively to play Lars, he's so cool brosYes my first tekken was 6
>>556843507This attack puts the enemy into*pauses**looks at camera*Shock State*pause*
>>556842932>JP Channel just uploaded the English dub guide with JP subtitles>Autodubbed>Shitty VA trying to sound like Sgt. Hartman with no actual bite in thier voice.Cygames really doing gods work. Not
>no lancelot changesplease, just give me anything
>dubshart bricksis melty out of nowherelmao
>>556843790>Complaining that a top 10 character didn't get buffed
>>556843716Did you also play him in Ultimate Ninja Storm Anon?
NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY NERF ZOOEY
>>556843730The stilted GG ones are such so bad its good presentation.On the flip side, Granblue's having actual accents and feeling like in character descriptions is soul.Lucilius sounds like it's someone recording it out of a hot topic or spencers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DM3J74HwnM
>>556843790Japan thinks he's top 5 so good luck.
>>556844124>>556843840When is the last time lancelot has been relevant other than the first year of gbvsr
>>556822187Seriously though do they not realize these are the actual issues?
>>556844112>Calling Galleons being voiced by a gay nigga SoulAnon please
>>556844523I must concede I didn't watch hers because it's a grappler. Not even her players will use their brains for her.
>>556844112Wow guys why does Lucillius's voice actor sound completely different here than in the game?? that's so weird?? He also sounds exactly like Wilnas's voice actor that's so weird???
>>556844357Jappas don't care about trivial stuff like results or long term viability, only who beat them in their last ranked session.A shame, was looking forward to seeing 500 Lancelots at the japanse Major since they all swore he was the best mix character in the game, alas no such thing happened.Wonder why.
>>556844357>Muh resultsIt's a wonder of the world that his playerbase sucks so much not one of them can get a shred of relevance when he practically plays the game for them. Still top 10
>No you just don't get it! I WANT Lance to be as broken as Lowain!
>>556844698>Jappas don't care about trivial stuff like results or long term viability, only who beat them in their last ranked session.I really hope this was supposed to be ironic
>>556844112I was happy to hear his voice again in the Relink showcase.
>>556844845Yes, take me back to vanilla launch GBVS Lancelot when he had actual high/low
>>556845050seek a rope
>>556845129Calm down Hatstroon.
>>556844802>>556844909Lancelot is top 5... why can't these baka gaijins just get it through their thick neanderthal skulls that he's just... has too much potential...What?Bicky having more tournament presence than him?Doesn't matter, she's literally to unplayable to win.
>>556845129Lancelot/Gran/Katalina/Ferry 4 gods meta was better than what we have now
vas is fine and does not need nerfs!
>>556845363Calm down, Blue"Somehow still no results with Vaseraga"Sky.
Could someone show me the tournament results and long term viability that make this character top 1?
>>556845319you're not wrong but adding lance to the current clown meta would make it even worse
>mandated selfie video or id to use discordi can never join the tournaments
>>556845456nyoooooo she's hecking broke!!
>>556845536>britishwe didn't want you anyway
>>556845598its global buddie
>>556845536Teamspeak and vent need to make a comeback, hell, I'll even take skype.
>>556845456List of characters with emergency nerfs in Rising:>Beatrix>...Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk!Nier was worse than Bea ever was but the writing was on the wall for top 1 Bea the moment she dropped
>>556845536>It's realNierbwos.... where will we groom minors now?
>Niggas are saying vanilla Ferry was better than Rising's meta
>>556845273Actually you're right. If a character isn't represented in tournaments they must be really bad. That's why we need to buff Grimnir, Pericval, and Narmaya. They're not in tournaments anymore so we gotta give them help.
>>556845598https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globallyhahaha
>>556845867Better than everything but the Belial top 1 one.
>>556845867The funniest GBVS meta bit has been Belial being a S1 character they released to start S2 and just refused to ever touch.Even through all of rising, he's gotten the lightest of taps. This character never has been, nor ever will be, outside top 5.
>>556846093Didn't Discord specifically get hacked and have millions of british people's IDs doxxed
>>556846086You think this is some sort of argument when i'm not the one putting any of these characters in top 5 tierlist slot slanteye?
>>556846093nooo...our secret server...
Can someone summarize the Cag nerfs?
>>556846417his stuff doesn't have negative recovery anymore and now just has 0 recovery like everyone else
>>556846417Get ready to learn neutral
>>556846169>This character never has been, nor ever will be, outside top 5.This is true, but this is also what people say about Lancelot even though he's honest mids Lancelot in Rising ever since j.H (2) became a mid
>>556846417f.H no actually has recovery.Traps duration cut in half.Grounded spare body is no longer plus.Like 5 compensation buffs
>>556846417a slap in her cunnynot too much
>>556846093>>556845853Desu... give me the credit card. We're buying gmod.
Funny how they didn't nerf Lowain being able to c.H into parry in order to catch a BC and still recover fast enough to combo if the c.H was a CH. He's a joke character so obviously he needs that as well.
>>556846279yes, lol.
>>556846417nothing burger into compensation buffs ZD is winning that shit when shio jobs on grimnir.
>>556845536I don't care personally, I can just pretend to be a teenager again for Discord.
Trap duration going from 6 seconds to 3 seconds is a pretend nerf to say "look at all the things we nerfed about cag!"traps barely stay relevant for more than a second or more, you're either instantly pushed into them or the fight moves away from them and they just get reset.
>>556846723The ramstick i imagine i bought half a year ago did this!So proud of him!
>>556847001TRVTH NVKE
>still no Metera nerfsUnbelievable.
>>556846952the problem is plenty of official game servers/resources are flagged as 18+ servers to protect their creators due to retarded rule enforcement. i already know i am in multiple of these servers for ancient game emulation so this is going to immediately fuck me in the ass.
>>556847001This was definitely the strangest bit, especially since cooldowns aren't changing. Just means Cag needs to reup more frequently if she's zoning.
They should increase flamecarpet duration since it actually disappears when Percival get hit.I'm thinking letting it do 2500 chip dmg total just like every other U-skill.
>>556799991>JOIN THE TOURNAMENT>Feb 12ndthrdst 8:00 PM EST>https://challonge.com/Boot_Camp_BeatdownWhat is this? is this an EU-friendly tournament?
https://x.com/NoUgrad/status/2020929500700344774
>>556847375>starts at 1/2 AMNeetbro...
If they want people to use Siegfried install, it should start playing his theme when he uses it
here is a malformed sheep for you anon
>>556847657i wanted glowing eyes
>>556847657it would be kino if all the installs had a visual effect like niers on the background
>>556847973Should have the stock red eye trail effect dark souls enemies get to complete the Artorias reference
>>556847657Every install that isn't Lowain and arguably Anre has to be shit, sorry.Seox should build meter during enlightenment.
If they want people to use Siegfried Install, he should say "NOW we fight!" when he uses it
>>556848416he does?
>>556847001It's a pretty nice change for the Soriz matchup since generally I can't do shit once Cag decides to just sit under the traps and throw spears and rocks at me. This nerf forces her to resummon them more often and give me more openings to get in.I assume that it'll help Yuel and Charlotta for the same reasons.
I still don't understand why drinking dragon blood turned siegfried into an evil vampireOr why there's just a modern beep beep danger siren sound during his ssba
did you know eustace has a full screen time stop SBA?tell everyone get it nerfed
>>556848540doesn't yuel just shit on traps due to 2m/66m?
>hkd the opponent in the corner>safejump and guard>mexican standoff for 2-3 seconds>opponent DPs and dies>mfw
>>556848560It's such a common trope for Japanese media to go berserk from some extra powerup you get via special blood/possession/mutations/weapons, because it results in easy set-ups for heartfelt moments in which his friends need to talk him out of his frenzy.
>>556848953but it being from a dragon makes no senseespecially since every dragon in granblue is nice
>>556848248What about Vira and Soriz's installs?
>>556849176soriz's is also shit, he just gets it for free so you might as well
>>556849176Soriz's is free, Vira has literal any hit into install for 50 meter and she'd still rather just coast to coast you and stay in vanilla.
i know what you mean by the du du du duh duh du post now. i cant find your post to quote you but i got jumpscared by random play. this game had such nice music.
>>556849345>dark cloud main themeHoly shit people remember, how lovely.I never played 2, the aesthetic put me off, but 1 is one of my all time top 25.
>>556849345it's nuts how you can run through a dungeon for like 5 combined hours and still bob your head to a 2 minute loopevery single time(except moon sea)
>>556849345nm i found you. god dran looks so silly.>>556548004>>556548178
>>556848953>heartfelt moments in which his friends need to talk him out of his frenzy.kino trope. shame that sieg and the rest of the knights are so lame though
>U Verdrangen>Now freezes time when armoring a foes attack>Slash startup begins 5 frames after the freezeImagineHopium but I wonder if this means he can beat some safejumps the same way Narmaya's U dp can
>>556849585dran kicks ass you take that back
>>556849637I need to start reading this again.It's no Helck.
>>556849810in retrospect hes not so silly.>>556850026helck was fun, did they completely fuck up the anime?granblue fantasy cope rising.
>>556849797I think it's basically like lowain's H parry. except... you get punished if the opponent evades it unlike him lol
>>556847657But his theme sucks?
>>556850338I bet you like Licht and Existence
>>556850337i am glad i can now hard call out certain moves with this button now as a crack smoking siegtard
>>556850384>you think [bad theme] sucks?>you must like [good themes]Yes. Yes, I do.
>>556849797ah yes i should take 50% because i dared to safejump
we have Verdragging, now we need Verrushing
>>556850125>helck was fun, did they completely fuck up the anime?It wasn't a good adaption. They did a great job with the music, the voice actors, the humor was good. But it was barely animated, very cheap. Helck isn't even that much of an action-manga, but the fights still sucked.I think the producers actually cared about the source material, you can feel it in the delivery, the jokes and neat little details. But there was no budget. Could still be worth it if you want to see Anne-chan, Vamirio, Helck, Piwi, Azudora, Alicia etc. animated and voiced.It also doesn't cover the whole story.
>>556850384>I bet you like the good onesI mean, what's your point lol
>>556850694stop safejumpingstop safejabbingscrub techniques
>>556850690>>556850863thank you for confirming your shit, predictable npc taste
>djeeta having her rekka wallbounce from midscreen>bad>ilsa having her rekka wallbounce from midscreen>good
>>556847001It really seems like a nothingburger change. Her only "significant" change is the grounded H teleport being slightly minus now. To make up for it, let's giga buff spear range, make her land and recover faster after jU and j236L/M, make 214U even more spammable and advantageous on hit, and make U spear fucking ground bounce combo into traps and continued pressure in corner because getting one minus on block special that leaves you close to your opponent is just too much of a debuff. But the transbian queens of downplay will cry hard enough to make it seem like she got significantly nerfed.
>>556851030>we removed Djeeta's H rekka bounce because it was too broken>*2 years later*>we have given H rekka wall bounce or similar to everyone else
>>556851030All season 2 DLC were lame and gay they had to salvage it with Ilsa
>>556850960aww the tasteless hipster boy is angry people don't like his shit songs
>>556851030Yeah but you see Ilsa needs her stocks, which she only gets 9 of for free after every single knockdown, to do all her cool stuff.
>>556851304>salvage it with Ilsaby adding cancer to the game?
>>556850829>Could still be worth it if you want to see Anne-chan, Vamirio, Helck, Piwi, Azudora, Alicia etc.thats basically what i watch most adaptations for. its nice to put a voice to a character or see them in animation even if its not great. thanks anon.
>>556850879>t. S+ rank
>>556849797The armor only starts at frame 9, so no, you can't do anything like that with it.>>556850613Calling out anything would have to be really pre-emptive because you need the 9 frames to react.
>>556851369It really is weird how her reload just gives her max ammo, and she also starts with max ammo.
https://x.com/ELSA_NIER/status/2020840401603846195
to the guy who never played for 2 years and botted 6 billion rupees while waiting for ilsa to be the one:was it worth it?
>>556849446>the aesthetic put me offIt's so weird going from 1 to 2, even when you consider that 2 isn't actually a sequel, but it's still called "Dark" Chronicle. It's like they just got bored with dark fantasy 70% of the way through 1, because they start introducing a bunch of goofy sci fi shit in the last third of the game that 2 takes and just runs with to inform its entire being. Like, it's cool they found their passion but it's not exactly what I was sold.
Metera got away with it.
>>556851610No one cares about Xerom's jobber girlfriend
>>556851686Such a retard does not exist, I refuse to believe so. Why not just creamapi instead wasting time farming jeetbucks?
>>556851610*loses to a rat*
>>556851594>Calling out anything would have to be really pre-emptive because you need the 9 frames to react.i know beatrix is going to riding free me. what i dont know is whether im going to be mad that i got hit right as the armor ended or mad if beatrix will recover in time to spotdodge/dp/slap my ass before it activates.this change was tailor made for me and my severely damaged brain.
>>556850694Well, if your opponent managed to hit you out of it then it wasn't a SAFE jump, was it?
>>556851610Do you agree, /gbvsg/?
nerfs? what are those?
>>556851692Japs sweating, popping blood vessels struggling to not add generic magitech bullshit into a fantasy setting for 12 unbroken seconds
>>556852174I blame Final Fantasy
>>556852156Depends on the context. DNF Duel? Yes. GBVSR? No.
>>556852302That's for GBVSR.
>>556852156>eastern european gibberish
>>556852156I disagree so much that I've seriously contemplated making a Youtube video called: "Analysis: why we should nerf instead of buff" and the only reason I haven't bothered yet is that I feel my English pronunciation isn't good enough.
>>556852156Devs should try to figure out at what power level the player base likes to play and bring every character as close to that power level as possible.
>>556852604What is the power level that the GBVSR playerbase likes to play?
>>556852346>>556852156nothing in GBVSR is good/broken enough to be a problem, yet. The top tiers are in a good place, everyone should be close to that So it works for GBVSR unless they start to buff top tiers.It's only a problem when they go full retard with buffs like UNI and DBFZ did
>>556852701Dunno, I'm not a dev, but in general people here seem to not want to deal with four way mix ups into touch of death, so buffing everyone until every character has one would be a bad idea for instance.
>>556852701I think everyone wants a single midscreen extension off an EX or some equivalent.The ability to use 2/3 EX in the corner.A single link for an ult skill off of raging chain so you can get a nice combo for 75% with a 25% refund.
>>556852805Sorry FKHRT, not wasting time farming jeetbucks in your game. And I'm sure as shit no paying you for fucking character recolours.
Even after buffs Zeta, Lucilius and Vikala are weaker than Djeeta, don't know why anons want her buffed
>>556852772>Pre-nerf Lowain was in a good placeNo. The mid-tier characters in Rising are in a good place, they should nerf and buff characters to that level.
just know that you aren't the only ones who are unhappy in the last 24 hours. why must fighting games suffer?
It took them almost a year and half to buff vikalaGalleon was buffed just after 7 monthsbias much?
>>556853529lmao. bum ass devs made it a tagflopper and see what happens?
>nerfing Sieg's j.UDude what the fuck. It doesn't even convert into a combo
>>556853207Based as fuck, imagine giving money to the guy that thinks 66L is a good idea for a fighting game.
>>556853529
>>556853529>Waste a decade on an ugly tagshitter made by marvel slopheads>Game diesWooooooow! It's almost like people don't want tagshit, stiff animations, a bland art style and arcane garbage designs.
>>556853529>game just came out>already dyingRising has a lot of problems but at least it's not that bad.
>>556853810five screens no devs.
>>556853529LMAOOOOOOOOOOOYOU LOVE TO SEE IT
>>556853685That slurper is nuts if he thinks I'm paying money to lab shitty DLC characters.
>>556853424t. lucifaggot who knows nothing else but mashing f.L/f.M
>>556853529>5 screens>5 players
>>556852260>added a grizzled mechanic/ mentor main character named Cedric...god fucking damnit
>f.H nerf>U Alexandria nerf>22H is no longer plusYES! DIE, CAG, DI->L/H Calculated: Forward tracking range and distance have been increased. Frame data unchangedFuck this move. Fuck this game
>>556854845It's better than nothing
Submit.
>>556853668They don't know that, they don't play the game and just change random shit. I prayed every new patch that they didn't touch sieg with these bad haircut changes, but here we are. All he needed was his f.l into orkan back, but they scrimblo bimblo'd him with retarded "buffs" that won't matter and an entire dev studio still can't figure out how to make people use his dragon shit install. They have down syndrome, example>make verdrangen have an easier time hitting people in the air>but now it can be air blocked lel :) Why? what was the point of it all then? I hate these fucking nigger devs so much just changing random shit for no goddamn reason when all they needed to do was one line worth of code change to make things better, yes im mad
What would a patch made by pink niia look like
>>556855041To chibi-sex?
>>556853529wow lel, im neutral on 2xko, so poor guys i guess
>>556855186>Why? what was the point of it all then?So if you get an air hit with a normal you can always confirm into it if it's not a clean hit to confirm?
>>556855186>Why?Because it would be an absolutely god-fireball that beats rolling, jumping (immediate punish for huge damage) and can be used to instantly skip neutral?WHY DOES A GROUNDED FIREBALL NEED TO BE AIR-UNBLOCKABLE
>>556855041Metera's new themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZBw-9VFIjg
>>556855041NO PLEASEI'M A VIRGIN
>>556855402Verdrangen is the big swing, not the fireball
>>556855402This poster has the same level of understanding of the game as the devs do.
Thought more about the Uno changes (after posting >>556832697) and I think I initially undervalued the buffs to his rekka. Getting a consistent juggle off a 623M anti-air is probably really big against spammy MUs like Bubz. I really don't know how all these changes will affect Uno's overall strength, I don't think he outright lost any parts of his gameplan. He might end up playing the exact same from an outsider's perspective.>>556824858>this is legit 20 seconds of downbacking while you wait for Anre to time himself outActually Uno's install timer resets every time he uses a spear, he can theoretically make it last almost a full roundIt's understandable that you don't know that, not even most Uno players know it because his install has no HUD timer>>556810969Uno's throw baits are still there, anon, and he still gets a combo from them. They're just not plus, but -3 isn't even throw punishable so he doesn't risk much for going for it. I think I might have compensated Uno by leaving the M version plus on block, since Uno only gets a combo off that when the opponent is crouching, but even without that this is fine
>>556855402
>>556855620>>556855773Yeah okay, I'm going to end it.
>>556855848dont do it viwa
cygames may bend the knee to the Zionist, but 2xko is premium goyslop
The only way to justify paying a thousand health up front is to give him 18k health and reduce his damage at level 0, which they did not do. Won't even touch level 1 now since it already lasted long enough to begin with, but now with double the cost.Seriously, what the fuck are these Sieg changes? He's even less fun to play now
>>556855783Bro can you stop talking to the void. You are the only Uno who exists in here.
>>556855783Wait a fucking second I somehow completely missed that 236L loses against H projectiles and clashes with regular projectilesForget every fucking thing I said Uno is capital D DeadI'm checking out the Unocord and everyone is dooming, not just meIf it weren't for that change it would be fine
why did they kill uno and nerf seox again before metera and ferry...
>>556855783There is more than one Uno. Keep talking to the void.
I think I'm going to try and have fun.
>>556856262>I'm checking out the UnocordA discord with just one member (you)?
>>556856591Uno member.. heh
did you hear that?? Uno is FUCKING DEAD!! CELEBRATE!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Be mice to Unoanon, he's the only one of his kind.
>>556856262thats right metera got buffed
>>556855041gladly
It's obvious, but they don't understand their own game. The notes are full of "muh neutral" , "for better neutral", "for better pressure" and it's like a weird roleplay where they're pretending people don't default to doing staggered 66Ls. I know it's a tired as fuck thing by now to bitch about 66L but it's unironically the biggest mistake in this game, it ruins any semblance of character individuality for pressure or neutral and the devs desperately pretend people try all these cool pokes and tactics and spacing when in practice it just isn't true, people just 66L because it's literally free and it's plus and gives you a combo on hit and sucks your dick and does your taxes. It's a big disconnect when they want certain things to be used but they keep busted shit like 66L untouched, or in the game at all. No dude, I'm not gonna use far heavy with sieg just because you increased the damage, I'm gonna keep using 66L endlessly forever because if I don't do it, my opponent will, and I will nerf myself for not mashing it like a retard. This game doesn't have "pokes", it's just 66L or f.l into yellow shit. They really don't play or even watch their own fucking game.
>>556855438blazblue music has some good ideas but for some reason the production is always total garbage
>after these changes uno's usage rate might dip below the EX flopsbest news this patch t b h
>I think I'm going to try and have fun.
The only way to make Uniggers stop playing the character is to buff him / change his appearance in a way that makes anybody else want to play him
>>556853529What the shit, man.This is funny as fuck but I feel bad for the shit-eaters that enjoyed it. Not like anyone gains anything from this game getting shitcanned.
>>556856204Lunalu players have to play Uno too...
>>556856923>production is always total garbageHow so?
>>556857084at least give her a mouth
>>55685690766L's biggest issue is homogenizing the gameyes ok it has counterplay but everyone has itlike, 66H and 66Ms are somewhat unique among the cast, why not do that with 66L too
>>556857084Mnyes.I also will not get a Discord loicense, chew on that Xi Ji Ping.
total corn destruction
why does he say it like DOOVESH
>>556857432not all 66Ls are equalkat's and belial's travel halfway across the world for example
>>556857432Universal mechanics are part of this game's identity. Regardless of what character you play, with some exceptions (Wilnas, 2B), you have a reliable 66L at your disposale.No, not a 66L-lover myself, but I can see the thought behind it. In a way, it may also help some characters that are on the weaker side. At least they still have 66L. This also makes it easier for players to jump between characters.
>It's obvious, but they don't understand their own game.
>>556856907you'll understand that 66l isn't the be all end all once you get past 0 gemmies
>>556857582You can do that in the lobby, I'm trying my hand at potential woman.
>>556857432The game was homogeneous before 66L too, the very reason it was added was to address removing hard knockdowns from H specials by making a universal oki tool. Le 66L will always be a buzzword meme that NPCs started parroting to fit in.
>>556855783>It's understandable that you don't know that, not even most Uno players know it because his install has no HUD timerHad no idea, yeah, usually one gets used every few seconds because they try a 2U or something to fish out a hit.Stand by my statement of it feeling like an eternity, it's just that in 20s you usually have someone die if uno had enough meter to install.
>>556857335I mean fucking listen to itIts quiet, soft, low quality, and the big parts sound small. They don't fill your headphones at all.
>>556857616
Imagine crying about Belial and fucking Kat's 66L when Meg exists
>>556857616>kat 66L>travel halfway across the world
>>556847721I was going to save this pic until I got to the legsActually I might just crop below the thigh outJesus Christ it's some horror shit
what are the battle pass songs this time?
>>556858236>BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS TURD GUISE DOESN'T IT SMELL SLIGHTLY WORSE?!
>>556856591There are dozens of us, and we're all considering dropping the character
>>556857920
... M verdrangen wasn't +1 this entire time? what the fuckmy moonlight siegfried life has been a liehow have I been getting away with this
>>556858445I look like this.
bwos i think i hate dark cloud 2why does literally nothing or nobody ever mention the stupid fucking random jump attack that just gets you killed
>>556858248wrong list, there was an updated one with meg that fixed a lot of these placements. kat still wasn't very high though
>>556858236meg sucks who gives a shit about her having one good thing
>>556858638It's bizarre to hear people say she sucks when her normals are actually insane. People just fixate on her fake rekka being fake as fuck.
>>556858248Soriz's 66L is trash althoughbeit??
>>556853529>buys frosty to get 5 screen despite having less entrants than us>has dozens of shills on twitter coming to their defense claiming the game deserves it>announces possible death a week laterLMAOOOO grub GAWDS vindicated
>>556858560Don't be silly, why would a 30f special move that's punishable on dodge be plus?
>>556858742It's bizarre to hear people say "let the bad character have one good thing" when we have to read 20 posts about Anila 66H every other thread
>>556858824Idunno man I just used it like it was and it worked out for me
Actually speaking of normals.Does Lucillius have the best collective far normals in the game?fL and fM are nearly war crime buttons, and now fH vacuum is getting improved.
>>556852805>Rapi out of nowhere
What have they done to my Zeta? Look how they massacred my girl
>>556858968vira and meg exist
>>556858968I'm okay with Luci having bonker normals considering his mechanic.
>>556859085*Cuts cooldown time in half*
>>556859262It's absurd how lame this character looks.
>>556859054It's all buffs outside of the 623U nerf?>>556859080Meg is the coinflip but I would argue her far normals are in contention.Vira's another excellent contender but her fH seems to be far weaker compared to her fL and fM, which I'd both put at Luci tier.>>556859085We'll see how it plays out with the new 5U stuff, it may start to get degen again if every knockdown gives him back his specials for his next hit.>>556859262Like that, yeah.
>>556859054What's the issue?
>>556859362They're trying to turn her into an actual character instead of a one trick pony and I don't like it.
>>556859054This but with Siegfried.
>>556859308LUCILLIUS IS COOOOOOOOOOL
>>556859495I am unironically pretty disappointed his jU doesn't hit behind him anymore but that's basically itpretty interested in the new install
>>556859468...is what I would say if they hadn't buffed the shit out of rhapsody
Nobody came...
>>556859690's followups.I hope cleave can actually punish 66L now. Then again, M always has been able to, and now it might get real followups.
>>556858236Meg's 66L is on the shorter side.
Looks like we got the last laugh after all
>>556858926>Anila>badsheep player...
>>556859606I think the install is still going to be really bad. It doesn't change his movement speed, only dash speed so unless he's going to be as fast as Seox it still won't be worth it. They nerfed his SBA range, if it's actually significant I think I might just quit the game for good this time. Also the change to L verdrängen is actually a nerf, but people aren't ready to hear that yet.
>>556856006smug mom
>>556860115honestly they should just make his install not consume meter like soriz'sit already costs him half his heath I don't know why they make it so expensive
>2XKO newsHow are we feeling?
>>556860115They gave him charlotta jump arc which is insane honestly.
>>556860359Marippe is so lucky...
>>556860359alivespecifically the ALIVE echo from rules of nature
>>556859262It's absurd how cool this character looks.
>>556860359It reassures me that despite what fags say here, this game is still doing really well
>>556860359>>556055284>>556055736Got the last laugh.
>>556859262It's absurd how gay this character looks.
>>556860359People will tell you this normal is okay
>last 10 games before update>haven't played since the third when I got my face shoved in the dirt...
if you lose to me you lose to a bottom 5 characterim literally beating you up on a wheelchairblinddeafarmlessI literally forgot to turn on my screen and you still lostthis is how much charlotta sucks right now and the gap in skill between you and metry harder next time and be glad im not playing overpowered shit like the newly buffed vikala and yuel. even playing a mid tier gives you an IMMENSE advantage against mehehehehe
>>556860927block koji nigga
Baking.
>>556859845nigga i'm not touching the game until the patch
Don't worry guys. They're buffing Seox! That will make Ferry's life harder by sacking her in bracket.>reads the patch notesThey nerfed him. Why...
pvmping
>>556860115I see Siegs using the install with how it is now, mainly when they're behind on health and want to make a comeback. If they're also making it so he can tard rage in and start getting those health-steal hits, it is going to be better at that use.
>>556860992I don't suck because Charlotta is a weak character I lose against, I lose because I stupidly try to press the same against a gorilla character as I do any other character.
>>556860359
Stroking.
eeping
WAITBEFORE THE THREAD DIESI NEED TO KNOWYOUR THOUGHTS ON SEX
>>556860359genuinely not surprised that its basically dead, I'm just surprised it died so fast, but it feels like karma for buying frostys and pushing gbvsr to the side so I am laughing
>>556861319dunno man never had it
>>556860992>im literally beating you up on a wheelchair>blind>deaf>armless>I literally forgot to turn on my screen and you still lost
>>556861319I never lost my virginity because I never lose
>>556861319>>556861394>>556861394>>556861394
>>556861319only had it once 7 years ago and i still miss that night
>>556860927who one and done'd
>>556861319I'll let you know when Narmaya finally becomes real
sneeding
>>556861114If you want to make a comeback, you don't use the install, you save your meter for SSBA. That is the main issue, the damage gained by installing will always be worse than the damage you get by using SSBA to rob them of their BP, to speak nothing of them losing two BCs. The health gain will almost never make up for the initial health loss unless you were literally at 1hp anyway. That is pretty much the only use-case I see: to prevent chip-out checkmates, which was already the case before the patch.
>>556860683Hello Orlea.>this game is still doing really well>zero mention of sales
>>556860359any tld dr?
>>556858807>buys frosty to get 5 screen despite having less entrants than usdont forget they played it on console and every screen/stream was full of horrible constant screen tearing
>>556863082They made an announcement that they are reducing their dev team by half, so people are assuming the game is being put into maintenance mode and that there will be far less content in the future after season 1 is over, which seems reasonable assumption to make.
dead game
>>556857721People that complain about 66L are the same people that complain about parries in 3s
