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Babysitting Pt. 2 Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>556892285
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>lose game because the other team has a 5 stack with all 5 new overtuned heroes against 6 solos
>they shit talk
what drives "people" to act this way
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Why didnt you vote for me
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How do I play silver?
I get the werewolf part, it's super strong.
But I suck so much at silver.
Is the plan just fool around with silver until you turn werewolf?
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>>556912581
I checked and there is an oddly high amount of vtubers (but it is the easiest most carefree form of streaming, especially for women, it's like going from life on easy mode to life on Bayonetta's special one-handed difficulty mode) but there's still a good amount of cam streams and guys like Super, surefour and eido (actual deadlock creator) are streaming. It's also 2am eastern bro.
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>>556913515
Why is Venator a protestant here
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>play game
>don't contribute to teamfights
>win
>MOST OBJECTIVE DAMAGE
>get commended
I don't understand
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Who's the most honest of the new heroes?
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Which one of you made this build? Fess up
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>play bebop the way Yoshi intended, by pressing 3 and building around hook since everything else gets nerfed constantly
>yoyo'ing viscous in his ball form
>yoinking and yankin'
>enemy team still singles me out to seethe about even though I had the lowest hero and objective damage

I'm just doing what they want man.
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>>556913613
shoot them and hit your shots
1 and shoot them and hit your shots on their head then 2 and maybe even 3 to disengage
you can also 2 them and turn your camera 180 degrees to fling them into your lane partner or team, or look straight down to goomba stomp their head
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>>556913018
why yes that's me how could you tell
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>>556913697
this cant be real
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>>556913515
>venator putting veggietales on for rem
I love this one
>>556913613
In general, nothing gets you into wolf pussy mode in a reasonable timeframe except point blank Rifle Slams and Cold Front/Decay (depending on how late the game currently is). So, grab one of them, then double then triple down on slams
Express Shot, Point Blank, Hunter's Aura, Bullet Resist Shredder, etc - then make sure you land your slam. The most crutch combo to do that is kick (punts them in a predictable direction) -> bola (makes them unable to dodge slam) -> slam
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>>556913728
>vyper
>cringe
faggot
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>>556913697
I don't use builds, but if I equip this one will it make it more popular so others have to see it? Or do I have to play the hero too
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remove this smelly girl from the game
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>>556913697
i want to like celeste
but the troon discourse she's started is so fucking annoying
its not even just this site obsessed with it, everywhere is
trannies don't shut up, even when they get what they want
tranny haters bring them up unprompted
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why does the ranged dps with that has life steal and shield and lich ult and psi blades and aoe damage circles spam also have the best movement
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I'm no disciple of epstein, but I would 100% marry Darcy Graves and start a large family with her.
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>play street brawl as silver
>ult is easy to activate early and you snowball
>round 3 comes around and the ult activation scaling kicks in and you barely have time to ult before you're already dead

oh I hate this
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>>556913765
is this from a certain build?
fucking every drifter has built in support, the ult is one of the greatest debuffs in the game.
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>>556913909
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>556913951
yeah my own, "weaving burst"
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>>556913561
Lel. Lmao even.
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>>556913697
based steinster still gaming despite dying
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>>556913909
It took dota years to reach hero power creep where they had to go and touch up other old heroes. It's already happening in this game and they're already adding additional nonsense to old heroes like giving Bebop a heal so they don't get powercreeped.
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>>556913873
She looks like she would stink good
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>>556913909
just shoot her lol
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>>556913939
i wanna smell her rancid morning breath. i bet she doesnt brush often bros
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>airstrafe in
>spam all your skills
>airstrafe out
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Darcy is a fucking retard getting groomed by a lich.
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>>556914054
>i bet she doesnt brush often bros
wow she's literally me
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i think silver's goofy pole climbing animation is so cute and out of character haha...
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>>556914101
It should've been me, not him...
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>>556914139
>not him
not whom? they're both female
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>catholic god blesses Venator with pure damage that no one else has
Catholic god confirmed to be the strongest in the deadlock universe, based
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>>556913987
>kek lmfao ur so le mad xD? mad??? le angry
'_>' im not even mad it was just honestly really embarassing to read their chat
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>>556914004
it's an alpha, so technically they're progressing into more mechanically complex/loaded kits as a design philosophy. bebop already had a lot of stuff going on in his kit compared to abrams or haze in 2024
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>>556913664
if you remove the balance discussion, it probably goes like:

>1. celeste
nothing incredibly crazy or annoying, i think she's overtuned now, but the kit itself seems very moba and not too over the top

>2. venator
outside of meme 1 shotting, all of his abilities feel fair and easy to play around

>3. rem
barely below venator. fun hero and is a macro hero done right unlike #5 on this list. only thing i don't like is his ability to steal sinners but at least you can play around it if you have any amount of awareness

>4. silver
i said remove the balance discussion, but characters that are effectively balance around shifting modes or short ult cooldowns feel almost impossible to get right. i think all of her abilities in a vacuum seem fair, but a good silver makes you want to kys and a bad silver (on your team) also wants to make you kys

>5. graves
literally a character made for people with disabilities. extremely easy to use kit, an ult that incentivizes you to just oress it every time it's up, and baby's first macro ability. making the gravestone only damagable by heavy melee was a mistake (why not 4 light melees? why not give it a shit ton of health and let us shoot it but incentivize melee?)
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It's really disappointing that video games are held hostage by trannies and furries. Can't enjoy anything anymore.
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>>556913561
that's me btw, get some friends bud
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>>556914421
>Silvertrannies pretending like they a part of the team.
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gonna be honest, i hated her voice at first
but it's starting to do something funny to my pp
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Rem is the only honest hero because he's an icefraud hero.
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>celeste heavy melee doesn't have blessed damage
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fencer will be the only honest hero, and all will apologize upon his release
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>the troonicorn calls pocket a he
valve managed to piss off the lgbtbbq real good
I guess pocket isn't nonbinary after all :^)
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>>556914101
Surprisingly played with a very realistic bent outside the whole Lich thing.
>snotty rich parts neglect insecure and loney daughter
>on her own she discovers a talent and is genuinely interested in using such power for good
>someone super fucking shady who sells her the illusion of a nice person finds her first
>she's very protective of her master even when the rapsheet of Liches is very bad for good reasons
>even evil characters like Seven warn her to be smart about it
>"no, fuck you what the actual fuck you know? I know better" is her go to response
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>>556914514
see
>>556914398
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>>556914497
tomb would be unusable if it could just be shot, or they would make zombies spawn faster/move faster to compensate which would be more annoying
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>venator on team
>lose
amazing hero
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>>556914554
Celeste does actually feel Risk of Rain as fuck + Lich ult
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they can't balance tombstone like in dotards because everyone is ranged in this game.
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>>556914635
im ngl what do troons expect
do they think people in the cursed apple go "hello i am pocket (my deadname is arin dont call me that!!!) my pronouns and they/them and i love frogs x33333"
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Rem is such a fun character, I haven't had this much fun with this game until Rem came along
Landing a fat pillow in the middle of their team, sleeping their support/initiator/CC machine and raping their carry with the rest of my team is just too fun
Not to mention how cute and unique his design is
What a wonderful wonderful character
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>the two highschoolers are the evil heroes of the update
>Graves is getting groomed by a lich both Seven and Venator are wary about
>Apollo is essentially prince of Ixian North Korea

WHAT DID VALVE MEAN BY THIS????
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>>556914681
>give it enough health that you CAN deal with it with gun/abilities but it's a reasonable damage sink and not viable to kill mid combat unless it's poorly positioned
there u go ez
it's also kinda gay that she can just stand around it and protect it with parries if she wants
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>>556914892
damn sevens agrees with someone WHAT THE HECK
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>>556913047
>check my statlocker tab thing after seeing this post
>go to performance vs global playerbase tab
>weapon accuracy: bottom 10%
>k/d ratio: bottom 23%
>average deaths per match: top 63%
>damage per minute and damage per life: bottom 12%
>damage taken per minute: top 4%
... you wanna talk about washed, buddy?
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>>556914892
Graves isn't evil though she hasn't done anything evil
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>>556914892
only drifter is evil, if they still do slork or wrecker that would be our next evil hero drop. ironically apollo makes wrecker more relevant since he's supposed to be the butcher of ixia
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>>556914892
subversive kino
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I am a Graves having a bad time in lane...
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>>556914956
It's not that unusual, he agrees with Lash of all people about stupid people in one of their conversations
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>>556914616
cope bro, hes gonna be this games yasuo and a cause of eternal seethe
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>>556914968
>>556914972
Sorry but Graves is a dumb teen unwittingly getting tricked by a lich.

She might be good aligned but her master most likely porbably isnt.
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Apollo is going to be the pango clone or the spirits clone
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>>556914761
im just confused why it requires 2 heavy melees instead of 2 heavy melees OR 4 light melees OR a mix
or why it can't just have huge gun/spirit resist and be killed over time at a distance
i haven't seen a single compelling argument for it being specifically 2 heavies instead of anything else besides "lol uhm it'd be... le shit!"
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add a second character with improved air control with a cool instead of cute aesthetic. i am not asking
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>>556915180
holiday!
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>>556914778
They're all autistic as fuck, so yes. They expect exactly that.
>>556914892
North Korea is actually a paradise and frankly you fell for western propaganda.
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>>556915180
Sir, your holiday 2?
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>>556915141
so graves can play around the melee system and also forces enemies trying to clear it deal with other heroes first
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>>556915253
not good enough add rutger
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>>556914972
I hope the next six are
>Raven
>Trapper
>Slork
>Wrecker
>Boho
>extra OG pick
The idea behind all of them are cool and its kinda sad they got scrapped forever.
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graves sisters forgotten...
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>>556915262
ah okay so basically it's unkillable/uninteractable unless you kill the enemy team, got it, sounds really balanced and fun
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>>556915334
I'm fine with boho and trapper getting scrapped. wrecker should be overhauled into new "big monster" kit.

so slork, raven, nu-wrecker, and then 3 slots for something new
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>>556915353
>so basically it's unkillable/uninteractable
holy retard
go back to twitter
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Silver is dogshit and I'm sick of losing games because shes always on my team
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>>556913647
based rat
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>>556915353
You sound like the kind of fella who walks into Graves' root multiple times and never learns from it
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>>556915353
this game is full of AOE and gun heroes with ricochet, why fidget with numbers when you can base the tombstone on the melee system?

if they changed it to the way you wanted, they would have to increase the strength of the zombies so you'd still be crying anyway
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>>556915414
your idea of interaction is the ability to put it way out of the way where it basically can do its thing uncontested (not interaction btw)
or forcing characters to do the most predictable and counterable action in the game to stop it
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Why is yoshi insistent on adding prime futabait on friday?
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>you smell even better when you're awake
I fucking can't
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>>556915428
get to oracle chud, she runs things here
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>>556914104
her asshole must fucking smell too bro. she must not wipe properly so i know she has a large brown stain around her asshole that is permanent. why cant she be real bros
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damn celeste rapes in lane and in every teamfight
needs nerf immediately
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The epic twist is that Apollo is also a woman pretending to be man and mogs pocket.
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>>556915538
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>>556915064
>wait till you can ult
>permapush lanes
>win
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Playing Dimir Rem control is the best
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>>556915516
you can interact with it just fine by just mowing down the zombies and collecting your bonus souls doe

anyways everyone knows graves' real strength is her root
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>>556915516
twitterinos leaverinos faggerinos
comprenderino?
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lmao are there actually gamers in this thread defending graves
i knew most people on 4chan were autistic neets but i figured you guys weren't the kind of disabled neets that use a blow tube to play the game and need her as an accessibility option
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>>556915584
thats irrelevant, I have a 70% win rate in brawl with her
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Graves is the Paige of the patch
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>>556915492
Some people just don't want to think
They just want to M1 or unload their abilities at an enemy and the moment they have to think about anything else they fall apart
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which streamers do i watch sisters i'm bored :(
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>>556915619
i have recurrent carpal tunnel so, get fucked chuddy
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>>556915628
>in brawl
lol
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Graves actually takes skill and a higher than average IQ to play.
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>>556915650
IRyS Ch. hololive-EN
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>>556915619
>gamers
>most people on 4chan
>autistic neets
and an uwu smooch *glomps you* fellow tourist
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>>556915609
idk dude they probably shouldnt be shootable. i think the zombies should require 2 light melees to kill so graves can play around the melee system
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The most recent 12 characters almost all have funny guns with cool reload animations
I hope they update some of the old ones.
>Viscous could rip a part of his body out, and shove it into his gun
>Vyper painfully coughs a magazine out of her mouth (hint that you shouldn't reload often as vyper)
>paradox rewinds time on her gun back to before it was fired, where it un-shoots every bullet, effectively reloading it
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I've noticed that the gun heavy team almost always wins, like 80% of the time they win. spirit has the edge in burst damage sure, but gun beats it out in literally everything else.
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>>556915693
... and other things seekers believe
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What does "a cut above" even mean?
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>>556915223
>2 stamina
>only has air control from jump pad
non
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>>556915740
Viscous is still using Kelvin's animations, gun, and rig
He'll be getting a full overhaul at some point
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>>556915406
I want Techies and Warlock/Witch Doctor in Deadlock so no, Im not happy with Boho and Trapper getting axed.
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>>556915646
That's Rem, little nigglet.
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>>556915751
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>>556915747
Gun scales better after 30 minutes. Sprit heavy teams need to win early and fast.
>>556915768
Stamina mastery and rapid recharge are in every holiday build
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people who suck at macro and rely on aim HATE graves
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>>556915735
>I think zombies should require 2 light melees

they explode doe
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>>556915748
you're only proving his point if graves stops being braindead easy or a free win past seeker
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>>556913728
>Apollo
>Dynamo
>Holliday
>Miku
>Shiv
>Vyper
>Cringe
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>>556915334
>>556915406
CADENCE
CADENCE
CADENCE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>556915492
why would they have to change the strength of the zombies
are you guys so fucking retarded that you think that there isn't some state at which some reasonable large HP pool interactable with all damage types offers SOME vestatility in dealing with it while still making melee the strongest option if the situation affords it?
it's funny you call anyone here "twitter" when your ideas of what can be done with the game are equivalent to the cock gargling trannies on twitter asking for more cum down their throats and some bonus shit as well saying "the game is perfect it's wholesome and trans :33333"
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i still have no idea what veils do
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>>556915802
>I want techies in deadlock

die

>warlock, witch doctor

dunno who is supposed to be the warlock here, but boho just had the cask
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>>556915334
celeste is literally just boho
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>>556915748
Pisslow seekerland is the place having trouble with graves, little broski.
>>556915856
They should also stun.
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>>556915839
Thank you
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>>556915856
yeah that's true i wonder if there's any downside to the tombstone requiring you to do an obvious telegraphed attack
i wouldnt know i unbound my F key ages ago
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>>556915954
>They should also stun.
LS does that
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>>556913697
if was probably you and you're posting it here because nobody gave you the attention you wanted there
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>>556915919
just a hiding spot that you can't see out of but not in to. like bushes in league and kind of like high ground in dota
and if you have veil walker they buff you
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>>556915918
look, I know graves is wrecking your seeker butthole, but the ult isn't even the strongest part of her kit. grasping hands is way stronger than mcginnis wall or even paige root
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>>556915334
I just want
>The Boss
>Wrecker
>Rutger
they all had like still decently unexplored character concepts even this far in now, I can live without slork though
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so now that the dust is settled what went wrong
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Celeste is the most overtuned new character by far
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>>556915464
>mfw graves haters in the general keep talking about how easy it is to avoid the big green line
>mfw majority of people in matches get caught in the big green line one way or another
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>>556916063
Rem's existence
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me when I catch apollo alone
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worst part about both twitter and 4chan is half of the time you're arguing in bad faith with retards they defend the design of a character simply because they want to have sex with it or imagine that they had their gentials mutilated
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>>556916019
yes. so you have to respect strong tombstone placement. it's a purely defensive ult. go whine on the forums about it
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>>556916063
her low gravity is too strong
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>>556916063
covered feet
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Two heavy melees is fine because it allows anyone, regardless of items or kit, to be able to destroy the Tombstone with relative ease
Giving it health and requiring it to be attacked will simply screw over people not focusing on damage items
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>>556915813
Shut the fuck up retard

Rem is a high IQ MACROCHAD
Graves is even more fucking braindead than that shieldslut
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they should BUFF tomb stone so you are FORCED to commit to a bkb if you want to kill it
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>>556916123
>defensive
>is a powerful tool in teamfights too because you can't afford that much time to deal with it or zombies
>also makes pushing WITH your team that much better
and people call me a seeker lol
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>>556916156
thinly veiled graves cope post
>p-pls don't take away my free parry
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>>556914972
>only drifter is evil
there are more characters in this game you could consider legitimately evil than those you could consider legitimately good
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>>556916184
both characters are for the lowest common denominator
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You can always go back, tourist-kun.
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Incels are copemaxing after Kaori wokemogged them.
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>>556916210
>he falls for the parry
lmao
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>>556916089
>"people" born in the Internet era are rarely genuine or intellectually honest because that's how they choose to entertain themselves
you don't say
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>>556913728
sit down zoom-zoom
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>>556916156
or what if (bear with me here) it's designed in such a way that heavy melees will always drop 50% of its health (and light melees 25%...) and that it also takes (reduced) damage from other sources
nah ur gonna say "uhm that cant work uhm idk why but it doesnt *dilates*"
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>>556916196
you're the one coming here to shit your pants doe

>>556916213
like?

only drifter and seven are explicitly evil. wraith is too quippy to really be evil and she isn't characterized like it either. there's the doorman but it's mostly ambiguous.
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ok graves vs characters with actual consistent range later on feels awful
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CURIOUS how celeste abusers never complain about the graves wall
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>>556915628
>brawl
Lmao get the fuck out of here you idiot
So this is why we have retards here claiming she doesn't need buffs, lol
t. Silver main
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predict Apollo's winrate
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>>556916310
why should it? because it makes you cry?
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>>556916038
no it isn't but it's an annoying part of an already annoying kit full of annoying shit.
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>>556916371
lmao youre shit, silver is op my win rate in oracle brawl is proof
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We need to bring back peak lefaa to cleanse deadlock from all these retarded reddit migrants.
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>>556916213
Drifter is an actual dahmer-tier psychopath serial killer. Even if you made him a normal human, non-vampire drifter is still easily the most evil character in DL.
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>>556916441
yeah it's crazy that we have twitter trannies defending graves. like we literally have twitter-tier avatarfaggots coping for it lol
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>>556916407
>uh it's just annoying

no, it's a guaranteed kill 99% of the time

>>556916441
you mean the whiny kid with the high pitched voice?
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I tried this game and had one brawl match where I won and did okay and have been getting shit on completely in every match since then, I don't think I have the mental for this
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>>556916063
She's not giving me an edging orgasm denial handjob for 3 hours straight occasionally spitting on my chest and cooing at me and encouraging me with her sex accent before ruining my orgasm all over her hands and feeding me my watery load off her fingers.

THAT is what went wrong.
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>>556915842
how are you supposed to win early when gun is superior in terms of taking objectives? genuine question btw. like abilities have longer cooldowns than reloads its a lot easier to melt objectives with gun builds unless you are playing ivy or seven
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>>556916501
>lol
go back nigger
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>>556916393
>disingenuous response to an actual suggestion
i love it when anons admit defeat, thanks!
there's no reason it can't be balanced around taking damage from other sources. but like most retards online you defer to what already exists because your mind is so small that you can't imagine other possibilities
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>graves lane gameplan
>walk up
>cast root
>cast jar
>wait for them to melee the skulls
>parry
>they die
>they learn their lesson and don't parry
>they die to skulls
Braindead char
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>>556916538
monster rounds are explicitly in the game to help spirit builds with taking objectives or killing camps

>>556916501
just uninstall and go back to league of legends
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>>556914421
I love Apollo memes
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Is drifter evil just for the sake of being evil or does he have some motivation behind his actions
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>>556916532
celeste would never be so cruel and mean, totally out of character.
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>>556914892
Where can I read more lore
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>>556916512
>agree with anon
>ERM NO IT'S NOT JUST ANNOYING IT'S CANCER BAD I DISAGREE
obviously her root is the strongest part of the kit but that doesn't absolve her of having other annoying traits you triple nigger
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>>556916612
if you want to give an actual suggestion go to the forums and tell the devs. but you lost a game and want to come here to win an argument because you don't didn't win a game right? suck a dick retard we don't care
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>>556916612
damage from other sources would fundamentally change how it behaves you dumb dork
>inb4 smug babble
tard
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>>556916612
>complaining about disingenuous responses
>nah ur gonna say "uhm that cant work uhm idk why but it doesnt *dilates*"
I see you
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>>556916696
I want her to do that and she would be that nice.
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>>556915068
Yasuo is a very honest champ
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>>556916786
youre honestly a dumb bitch!
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>>556916618
>Shoots the skulls
Now what?
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>>556916816
Yes I am and I still understood Yasuo intuitively
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>>556916642
he loves killing people
that's really it
he probably sees it as the natural order of things with him being a predator and doing as nature intended
but he still just loves murder so fucking much
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>>556916312
Calico and Vyper are both contract killers who have no regrets in what they do, they're not as sadistic as someone like Drifter but are certainly far from being good
The Seventh Moon (and by extent Yamato) are described to be very ruthless criminals
McGinnis is probably the most understated/banal example of evil, pretty much none of her inventions have benefited humanity and have only contributed to the military industrial complex, something she cares very little about
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>>556915517
My headcanon is that they designed this guy to be clavicular, I hope his personality matches this
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Seventh game in a row where the team with venator loses
I'm nooticing
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>>556916642
He's a redneck hobo serial killer. He just also happens to be a super old powerful vampire.
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>>556916642
Extremely powerful ancient being with zero humanity left, whose natural drive is to be a predator. If vampires are like parasitic predators then he is a ravenous animal
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>>556916951
>redneck
worse, he's french
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>>556916951
Cajun =/= redneck you philistine
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>>556916728
>>556916715
no one has given a compelling reason why it specifically needs to be 2 heavy melees.
why not sinners style? let it be any mix of lights and heavy? any arguments there or does she need a giant parrybaiting rock?
why not give it a normal health pool with heavy spirit resist? why can't i invest significant gun/ability resources into it instead of a heavy melee? what makes it SO balanced around requiring a character walk up to it and say "PLEASE DON'T PARRY ME" (twice)? do you think i'm suggesting that a rem can just use one clip of his gun to kill it? maybe i'm suggesting that a venator could drop 3 ult shots into it for 50% of its health as a shitty, but safe, trade? but no, your minds are small. you're only seeing what you see in front of you. you love this game and don't want to meaningfully engage in any critique. you'll suck yoshi's troon cock and love it.
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Do you guys think Drifter bought the cool suit that he wears or did he steal it off one of his victims or something
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>>556916826
kind of irrelevant anyways depending on how squishy the char that you're rooting
you're either down 60%+ hp or you're dead, and if your teammate isn't braindead he's just gonna hold lmb into a completely stationary target to confirm the kill
or you can start light meleeing the rooted guy when he's busy shooting the skulls

root gives you 2 free 50/50's and i'm not even playign a fighting game, it's giga retarded.
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>>556916983
>french
He's Cajun. Not actually from France.
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>>556917036
that nigga got a rope for a belt what do you think
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>>556917036
He probably stole it. He has a voice line with Paradox I think that implies he specifically wants to kill someone and take their coat, when she instead offers to just give him one
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Genuinely curious why people defend obviously bad game design in these threads? Is it just bait? Is it genuine? Maybe my brain is too soft to go on 4chan anymore... I can't tell what's real and what's bait.
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>>556917062
that nigga came here on the mayflower, he franch
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>>556917109
more internet access + more popularity = retards everywhere
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>>556917109
The average rank of this general is Ritualist, you shouldn't take anything said here seriously
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>>556917019
so that contesting is a big commitment that you should only take if you have complete control of the area
obviously. seeing as your seethe kneejerk reactions are coming from your desire to make the situation worse for graves, you should know that its currently designed to favor her
dumb sperg
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>>556917109
be specific
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>>556917092
Way of the road...
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the concept of just hit the tombstone mogs two games now
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>>556917109
>if I don't like it, it's bad game design
entitled consumers are the most annoying shit in the world
99% of people are laypeople and shouldn't be listened to or respected in any capacity. every time someone talks about bad game design it's just them letting off emotional steam because they expect the game to cater to them and go into a denial spiral when they lose
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>>556917191
did i not just suggest a big commitment to dealing with it
i did, but you're a fucking retard and can't read apparently
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>graves skulls can damage you through byper petrify
This is ridiculous
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>6'7
This character was made for dudes who hold pencils with their whole fist
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>>556917062
Depends on how old Drifter is, if he came to America when it was first colonized he could be from Europe
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>>556917241
I think he also has similar dialogue with Abrams. Dude likes to trophy hunt, as it were
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>calls people entitled consumers
>suggest that people continue eating the slop and that the slop makers are always right
what did he mean by this
did we get invaded by israel or what
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>>556917360
I knew a fat kid in elementary school who did this
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there's no reason to post in /dlg/ now that celeste is out

but I ain't playing this shit because fuck mobas

wat do
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>>556917047
Your hypothetical situation is kind of weak
You're assuming shooting 4 skulls takes a long time (enough for multiple light melees) when you initially suggested the graves ran to very close quarters after throwing her skulls in order to try and bait a melee parry which then would've failed
So now the Graves is vulnerable to heavy spams and in your face while being the second squishiest character
And you're also assuming you've caught a character alone and are with a teammate while they have none
And in that situation it almost doesn't matter who you and your teammate are as it's a 2v1 with no items being considered so the person caught out alone would be at a massive disadvantage anyways

Plus it sounds like you're getting rooted by a wall that was just thrown out there which is kind of impressive if not sad
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>>556917456
leave?
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>>556917368
He's described as ancient. I know VtM isn't exactly relevant but I assume if he were to be transferred across universes he'd be 5th or 6th gen, far older than America
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>>556917301
Actual genuine question, why do people suck off game developers like they're always right? Especially with Valve, a company that has historically and consistently added unbalanced and unfun mechanics to their game that they almost always end up admitting were bad when they roll them back or rebalance them entirely
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>>556917531
this is a zoomer phenomenon, this mentality raped helldivers 2 into the ground
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it's not an icefraud game if it doesn't make you question why he would do this
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>It's another my silver player can't into wolf form episode
Sigh
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im really looking forward to when they rebalance tombstone with anon's suggestion and the slop suckers here clap and praise valve for their genius idea
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Any more mobile front line character like Abrams and Billy? I have to pick a 3rd to play
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You're not fooling anyone
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>if you can't find your way home you can stay with me
it's a not a coincidence that "celeste" rhymes with "molest"
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>>556917482
you can... react to heavy melee, why would i be vulnerable in that position beyond my own retardation?
the root wall also gives you ample time to simply... reposition if you are getting outtraded somehow (lmao), you aren't getting pushed when the wall is up, and if the second retard steps into it then he eats shit too.
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Imagine being Mina's personal butler and having to deal with her bratty shitty attitude while watching her parents enable it
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>>556917690
shiv nigga
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How can one character be so sexo?
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>>556917690
not mobile, but the tiny summoner high school girl is basically a hidden melee frontliner
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>>556917456
wanna lay face down in and eat that musky girl ass so bad while I fuck her calves
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>>556917690
Mo&Krillington
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The only thing I don't like about Graves is how retard-proof her M1 is. It's almost impossible to deny her soul orbs if she's even slightly aware
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>>556917726
Are you assuming people are going to heavy melee the skulls?
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>>556917814
the whole kit is retard proof
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>>556917638
thats every silver
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>>556917814
people are going to call me a twitter tourist, but both her and bebop should 100% require you to prefire (and waste ammo) to get the guaranteed confirm
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>>556917487
but i dont wanna
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I’m just here to play Ivy and be helpful!
I switched off of a kudzumaxxed build to a more general support build. And while I do miss the retardation, I’m playing better this way.
Not sure what character to tackle next. Probably shouldn’t branch off of support. I tried Calico but couldn’t do fuck all.
How’s Seven and Abrams?
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>>556916881
I would agree with you but all three of these characters need their redesign to show off their darker side. vyper is just too funny to take seriously as an evil person, calico is too suave and her current model looks more like a librarian, and then yamato is speaking japanese half the time. valve needs to give yamato a bloody blade and more aggressive voice lines if they want her to be evil. I think they had the right idea when some of the early concept art mockups had her looking like an Oni in her ult form
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>>556917814
There's kind of a weird latency or priority thing I've noticed when it comes to confirming and denying souls
I don't actually know if it's true, but it definitely feels like the game slightly favors the side the soul belongs to when it comes hitting it
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>>556913939
Bro, Celeste basically confirmed shes 18, no Epstein allegations allowed now
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>it's a teammate never shoots graves skulls episode
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>Celeste's entire joke is that despite the world being swallowed in occult people still can't believe in unicorns

Kino or nah?
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>>556917818
light
even if you miss your 50/50 without watching their reaction and playing accordingly like a fucking idiot the root gives you ample time to just dash away

you know that you can just... parry their second light melee, right?
i literally mentioned a double 50/50 a few posts back, don't be retarded
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>>556918024
Extreme kino.
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>>556917742
I want to get fucked up drunk with Silver, start fooling around with her, sloppy makeout session and wandering hands, pouncing on me forcefully with mouth agape hungry for tongue filled kisses and swapping mouth flavors, pushing me on to my back with suppressed monstrous strength, then she unbuckles her jeans that hug her ass so tightly and shapely and drops them and her panties in one go and spins on her knees to kneel over me reverse cowgirl. I want her to plant her smelly hairy pussy on my mouth, kneel and plant, plant her sweaty dark rouge colored asshole ringed with the faintest silver hairs on my nose to tickle it and let me huff her sickly sweet feminine musk, and wiggle around for her own pleasure until her whole body shakes and she gushes down my throat and her juices run down my chin like I bit into an overripe fruit. While I do my best impression of her in wolf form drinking from a dog bowl, but with her overflowing grool dripping pussy ("schlorp schlorp schlorp"). I'm so hard thinking about it the tip of my cock is burning with hyper sensitivity and a desperate fiery need. If she actually did this she wouldn't even have to touch it, the moment I felt the proof of her arousal flood into my throat it'd spasm and throb enough on its own that my balls would go taut and I'd blast ropes up over and past my own chest hard enough to hit myself in the face; except I'd paint her tight washboard abs instead, because my face would be occupied.
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female hero attractiveness tierlist

yama is a tier simply because she is japanese and thus her finished model will probably be hot. could be s, will have to see
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>>556917314
your idea is shitty doe and heavy melee is a basic action any hero can do, no matter what build or how they're doing. graves is short range already, they would have to redesign her if they had to re-design the ult.

you're also arguing from a place of seethe and have yet to offer strong counter arguments. an ult is supposed to be strong for the hero, not shitty.
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This pov is my patron wish.
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Mo & Krill are surprisingly fun to play. Once they get a visual update so they don't look like Neon Prime rejects I'll probably main them
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>>556918024
Kino
Unicorns are supposed to be legendary if theyre not then you cant call them unicorns anymore
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>>556918118
waiting for the "4 light melees kills it" counter argument from you
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>>556918097
>Yamato in A-tier
Seriously if you ignore her off-model porn there's nothing appealing about her even as a hardcore weeb.
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>>556918097
Paradox should be at least B tier, she doesn't deserve to be in that fucking tier.
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>>556918097
>s tier: children
what did anon mean by this
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>>556917926
Correct, back when denies had no safety timing if one side of a lane had even 20ms less to the valve server than the opponent they'd be able to completely full deny everything with no contest.
Its kind of needed since while no safety denies are great conceptually it'd only work in a LAN environment.
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>>556918190
i stated my reasoning. if she is japanese, her updated model will likely be hot, so i am being a retard and giving her a because she is japanese.
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>>556918202
a woman's value goes up as her age goes down
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>>556914972
Mina is evil
Mcginnis is passively evil
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>>556918051
Your entire 50/50 idea falls apart if they just decide to shoot the skulls and then you
So now you're left with tickling them with your gun
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>>556918258
bean
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>>556918097
swap vindicta with silver and move mina to her own SS tier and you have a deal
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>>556918202
They're factually at their biological peak.
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>>556918097
Vyper should be higher for her VA alone
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>>556917926
The game was literally fucked and borderline unplayable in practice with denies because of latency before they added a system where souls favor the owner. If you had worse ping there was no point to even bother.
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>>556918186
4 light melees are just 2 heavy melees
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>>556918097
Wrong
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>be cardboard rank shitter
>just trying to learn the game and characters
>every game has one of these
>a smurf going 30-1
>a haze or ivy laser beaming headshots anyone out of cover
>two ultra feeders in a lane ensuring that mid and late game is a slow cock crushing session

And once in a blue moon I get a game where it seems the skill based match making is working
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>>556918338
Actually heavy melees do a bit more damage than 2 lights iirc
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When are they buffing Yamato?
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>>556918338
so why cant i use 4 light melees to kill it then
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So are deadlock vamps like vtmb vamps?
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>>556918274
is mina evil? she's just a brat 99% of the time
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jesus fucking christ, mina has been gutted
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Since when can vyper still damage people through petrify
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>>556918405
Presumably because the commitment to the heavy is also part of the inherent risk of going into the area denial character's denied area
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If Mina spread her legs in front of me and lifted up her skirt to reveal her glistening bare pussy and smugly beckoned for me to give her oral sex my head would get all dizzy and floaty and I'd cum without even touching my cock within a minute of starting to lick her just from just the taste and the smell and raw primal desire and excitement, and I'd dutifully continue with seed dripping from my tip without ever going soft and then probably cum 5 more times the same way. I don't even need to fuck Mina. I'd happily lay in bed face down between her pale thighs and lick her pussy for hours as long as she'd let me while she pressed her bare soles against my back and my hips bucked and humped and I'd creampie the space between my stomach and the mattress again and again and again and again just from tonguing her pussy and asshole and lapping up all her sweat and grool.
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>>556918419
Vaguely inspired by it, but the Camarilla is also operating in the open, so no Sabbat
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>>556918519
I bet she's hairy
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>>556918291
great, they are busy shooting the skulls and not you and you can melee them instead potentially forcing a parry, while having still having the agency to reset because they are rooted
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>>556918519
you put into words what many of us feel
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>>556918519
This, but Darcy Graves
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>chuck a max level bell at graves as shes walking with like 3 zombies
>she gets instagibbed from 100-0
I keked
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>>556918405
to make it harder for you to kill it
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>melee-happy laner on enemy team
>attempt to parry
>dodge my parry zone within a pubic hair
>attempt to leave via dash jump, thinking im clear
>NOPE, YOU WERE 15 FEET AWAY BUT IT SOMEHOW CONNECTS
EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
IM HARDWIRED WITH SUB-35 PING, HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING
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>>556918707
bluetooth melee
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>>556918707
the melee hitbox extends like 10 feet outward and then there's network delay too, your ping doesnt matter theirs does
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>>556918707
>Haze sleeps ally
>Parry for them
>Haze somehow doesn't heavy melee me
>Ally bitches at me
Maybe don't get slept in the first place tard I don't know man.
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>>556918787
I laned with this mo once on mic who yelped loudly when lash just stomped him over and over because he refused to get to cover. some people are just stupid.
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>introduce a melee parry system nobody asked for
>refuse to rework it ever
>all hero kits are designed around the garbage coinflip mechanic
>no true melee can ever exist due to this
bravo nu-valve
overwatch and marvel rivals are better due to this huge oversight
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How do I get good at Mina? I suck at aiming, should I just give up?
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>>556917742
How tall is she supposed to be anyway?
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>the male character that gets fangirled over the hardest BY FAR is a stinky dirty homeless murderer
femalebros, explain yourselves
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>>556918896
He's the most powerful male in the game apart from maybe doorman, and women are hypergamous
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>>556918657
ball will be nerfed into the ground, it's comically busted right now with zero counterplay
can't even counterspell it because it just sticks around if it still has bounces and will hit you even if you block a bounce, and it hits like a fucking truck even with resists
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Simple fucking as.

I'm putting Yamato there based on her leaked model rework. Which I assume will only get prettier.
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>>556918857
if anything I want icefrog to expand on it, I want a third melee from dashes or some shit
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>>556918896
>doesn't limit himself
>likes to rape
>doesn't obey social norms
this is the prime sex archetype
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>>556918949
based
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Celeste's damage is fucking gnarly holy shit
You just pin them down for her for a few seconds and she eats them alive, brutal shit
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>>556918965
Also goes down head first during the period
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does scourge do damage based on my health or their health
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>>556918949
>three of the S tiers are all the new heroes from this update

THE FUTURE OF THIS GAME IS GRIM
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>>556919040
all health% damage is enemy based
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>>556918949
wait there was a model rework leak?
post it
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>>556918889
6'2" according to that one model graph
beast form is 9'3". BIG
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>>556918097
>Ivy the same tier as GEIST
I got baited
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>>556919094
What the fuck
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>>556919016
i played with a guy today who complained she does literally no damage
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>>556919053
Do you prefer SBI tier designs like Calico?
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>>556919016
>350 damage on-hit effect while built for
>some characters skills with a 15s cooldown barely do even that
Too much damage.
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Who the fuck keeps putting Yamato in A?
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>>556919121
I imagine fighting her is similar to how Mr Hands felt
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>>556919093
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>>556919093
Obviously the hat looks too gook but her face looks great.
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>>556919163
we are a yellow fever general.
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>>556919053
10 out of the 11 new human characters are white, the hottest girl in the game is Asian/half Asian. All of them are attractive in their own way. Rem sounds like a normal kid and doesn't talk like an urban youth.

>THE FUTURE OF THIS GAME IS GRIM
The future of this game has never been brighter.
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>>556919115
yes, Ivy should be 10 tiers above old hags
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>>556918580
Okay and as you melee them, presumably a light one because charging a heavy is reactable as you've said, they're still shooting you with a gun that'll on average have a higher DPS than you and have the ability to get headshot bonuses
And remember all this has to happen in 1.5 seconds from when the root happens
Which takes place about 2 seconds after the line goes down
Which they've somehow didn't simply double jump out of upon either seeing it or hearing it go down
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>>556919186
>>556919191
nnoooo my penis head....
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>>556919191
>>556919186
Holy....
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>>556919186
>>556919191
>yoshit is just sitting on this and didn't include it in the update
what the fuck is his problem?
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>>556919121
And how the fuck did he come to that conclusion? She has 4 nukes, one of which has 3 charges
>>556919154
Not to mention ALL her skills do good damage in a sizeable AoE
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>>556919331
cause hit's low res and honestly ugly
her silhouette is too similar to seven and blends in with the environment
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>>556919241
when the community workshop opens the dickhead will be the first addition trust the plan.
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>>556919331
The update still isn't over once Apollo comes out ;)
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>>556919191
oh i forgot about this, it's pretty old news, my fault
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>>556919331
Silver literally wasn't even finished in time for this update. If people hadn't been desperate for it they would have waited longer to drop it and maybe included more shit. We were supposed to get new Guardians and jungle camps.

We might still get that stuff and Yamato in a staggered update not long after this one.
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>>556918857
>filtered by melee of all things
did your keyboard not come with an F key?
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>>556919431
I'm the one playing melee and it sucks.
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>Graves isn't evil!
shes a necromancer
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>>556919231
i love this goyle
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>>556919406
Fuark just release the remodels already Yoshit.
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>>556919472
>Everyone collects souls and uses them as currency
Evillock...
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>>556919472
And Mina is a neck romancer, what's your point?
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>>556919472
Necromancy is legal in the empire of the best series of all time, skyrim
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SAY THANK YOU TO THE SAVIOR OF DEADLOCK
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>>556918429
She's a status obsessed vampire who murders out of self interest.
How isn't that evil?
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>>556919231
Gross
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>>556918857
I think it's fairly well balanced
hard to pull off in duels if your opponent has a brain, which is fine since melee can be such a powerful thing, but in bigger chaotic teamfights it works really well since even if they see it coming they're much less likely to want to parry and lock themselves into an animation if multiple people are coming for them
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Grave's ult is objectively bad design because there's no way to deal with it other than waiting a full minute or taking lots of damage. Parry baiting takes too long and opens you up to more damage and there's a 100% chance another zombie spawns and chunks your health if you don't destroy it instantly.
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>>556919472
shes neutral
she wants to help the dead
part of helping the dead probably also includes resurrecting a lich that probably wants to genocide everyone into a slave army
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>>556919642
mina hasnt murdered before the ritual so by that logic every participant is evil
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>>556919642
That's the difference between nobility and lowborn filth like you. You wouldn't get it and you will never understand it.
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>>556919586
I say that to her very often
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>>556919472
Let's set our standard for "evil first"
>Mikuginnis
>Uses souls for her experiments while boosting fairfax's genocide warmachine
>Graves
>Babysitting undead because old lich lady told her to
See, it's not that hard
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>>556919690
I agree it's balanced, I just dont enjoy it.
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>Ivy saved 2024 Deadlock
>Mina saved 2025 Deadlock
Who will save 2026 Deadlock?
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>>556919719
Ivyfags are genuinely the most deluded bunch in the playerbase
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>>556919470
Oh so you're still in shitlo you're just the one doing the knowledge checking
point stands, play until you go against decent players
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9 games in a row where the team with venator loses
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>>556919430
>people hadn't been desperate for it they would have waited longer to drop it
Maybe they shouldn't have done the fake voting shit that only existed to stir up social media engagement
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>>556919695
>Mfw the area denial character denies an area
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>>556919586
I say "THANK YOU MINAAAA AHHHH THANK YOU MINA THANK YOU MINA MY GODDESS MY QUEEN THANK YOU MINA" every time I ruin my orgasm to her after a 2 hour goon session and slurp my cum off my fingers before going again without getting soft.
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I have one wish
I hope they dont make Vyper look actually attractive and retain her weird monster appearance

Because I'm going to fucking seethe hard if they make a cute girl that's total fucking whore that fucks Billy
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I like pants
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>>556919708
How do vampires sustain themselves?
You think this bitch is drinking pig blood?
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>>556919094
>6'2
Holy crap, are there any regular girls bellow 5'7 aside from hunched over Ivy?
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>>556919879
its just a nibble
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>>556919586
Mina is such a brat, good lord
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>>556919812
>the area is a entire fucking lane
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Rem getting 4 helpers is like unlocking ultra instinct
This level of lanejanny shouldn't be legal
>Also shares the souls with everyone on your team just because
I'm considering undertaking the massive retardation of not upgrading any other ability just to save 5 ability points
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>>556919845
I mean she's going to still be a monster but she's going to have tits and be an attractive monster. And she does and always will fuck Billy while calling him Lash, so you're gonna just have to cope.

If you want a pure girl who will never be implicated in sexual activity with other male characters you need to stick to Mina.
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>>556919586
terrible art, i genuinely cant tell who is supposed to be who and only know its mina on the right due to the umbrella
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>>556919918
>entire fucking lane
their max traversal distance from spawn point is 1/3rd of a lane retardo
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>>556919759
Celeste just did
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>>556919765
Ivy SAVED Deadlock's reception after the Gey Talon leak from incel dane the faggot main
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>>556919695
Have you considered farming it to massively boost your souls? if you want money early game go to the lane shes at and force her ult then run back and reap your rewards.
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>>556919918
Just shoot the zombies then?
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>>556919759
>Who will save 2026 Deadlock?
Uh, hello? Were you in a coma today? Celeste literally made Deadlock go into the top 5 played games on Steam (120k active players)
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>>556919961
are you a fucking retard?
Mina Haaaaa is on the left wearing Morrigan Aensland's outfit and Morrigan Aensland is on the right wearing Mina Haaaaaaa's outfit.
Fucking stupid zoomer.
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Not to rain on minafags parade, but are they going to at least texture the bald spot under her bob?
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what's the point in playing Silver when Abrams is just better?
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Let's see what this dick can do
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>>556919912
>Troonblrina
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>>556920157
having a built in capacitor is reason enough to play silver.
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>New patch fucks my game
>Low prior queue
Ok fine
>It's indistinguishable from regular queue
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>>556920157
sometimes people play video games for fun
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>>556920242
>playing a Valve PVP game for fun
you must be new
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>>556918097
Paige is an SSS
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>>556920157
>Why would you play the hypermobile character when there's a fat tank character
Guh... guh-gawrsh, Mickey... I dunno...
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>>556920239
this is a fuarking self expose innit
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>>556920019
Farming is always worse than brooling now, if you farm instead of brainlessly running into fights you're throwing the game and will be down 10k souls.
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>>556920157
>what's the point in playing Silver when Abrams is just better?
werewolf wife
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this mod makes her so much better
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Ever since the playerbase has risen my games feel like ghost towns, nobody types anything ever, maybe in the beginning one guy types gl hf or begs for swap. What the hell happened?
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>>556920331
wrong, the jacket is cute
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>>556920386
Mindbroken by modern games where saying anything can get you banned
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where's the goomble champion icefraud
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>>556920331
she's very fuckable but her jacket is aesthetic as fuck
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why is this walker so much scarier than the ones ingame?
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Does Kelvin's S1 heal himself too? Or only other allies?
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>>556920386
I'm getting lots of randoms that erp
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>>556920317
you are retarded
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>>556918350
i wanna cum on her ass and use my semen to create constellations with her freckles
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>>556920386
I still get tons of banter, text is more common but every few games there'll be a bunch of guys chatting shit on mic.
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>>556920469
Gambler archetype stolen by Wraith without any mechanics about it please understand
Fairy hero when icefraud
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>>556920494
His isolation and loneliness has twisted him into something hateful and warped.
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>>556919892
Paige maybe



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