Rat edition>What is Morimens?A Slay the Spire inspired card gacha featuring elements from the Cthulhu Mythos>Official Linkshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3052450/Morimens/https://x.com/morimensofcl>Arc 2 Chapter 4 PVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rmkXTIDAfc>Current Events (V2.4.2)[Character Event Awakening: Xu] 2026/1/26 - 2026/2/23[WoD Event Awakening: Vain Regrets] 2026/1/26 - 2026/2/23[Event: Hectic Skybound Rail] 2026/2/9 - 2026/3/9[Awakening Event: Beyond the Calendar] 2026/2/9 - 2026/3/9[Awakening Event: One in a Million] 2026/2/9 - 2026/3/9>Upcoming Events (V2.4.3 & beyond)[Login Event: Auspicious Shards] 2026/2/16 - 2026/3/2[Rerun Awakenings: 24/Horla/Pickman] 2026/2/23 - 2026/3/23[Rerun Event: Manifold Healing] 2026/2/23 - 2026/3/9[Skin Archives: Crimson Heartwood] 2026/2/23 - 2026/3/23V2.5: 2026/3/26V2.6: 2026/6/29V2.7: 2026/11/16>Guides & Wikishttps://morimens.huijiwiki.com/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10UVim8m1SnY9fSDKfaH4AwnPPd22zsCDDNB6SV15yO4/edit?gid=167686509#gid=167686509>Forgotten Eve>>556105276
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Ramona love!
it feels pretty funny to bully bosses in this new mode once you unlock more meta progression upgrades
Some Korean Sister has won the lottery by rolling on the male banner. Castor and Pickman.
>>556930349to be fair it's very difficult to lose on the male banner, it's pretty great
i've done eight runs and still have not seen the puppet of putrescence. i'm starting to lose it.
The character "Xu" has been a ghost in our files for six years.Her story began in 2020 during a Call of Cthulhu (CoC) tabletop session the team was playing together. We became captivated by "The Bloated Woman" and the haunting atmosphere of 1920s Shanghai. That session gave birth to Xu's first draft: a figure draped in luxury robes, a high-society felt hat, and a black fan.We soon realized that simply drawing "bloated, black long arms" provided plenty of shock value, but lacked that layer of "indescribable" quality central to cosmic horror—that specific sense of oppression wrapped in beauty and etiquette.We decided to pivot our direction toward "the horror hidden beneath elegance," shelving the idea until we had a more mature opportunity to create her.In 2021, our artist KPKSS accidentally produced a second draft during a practice sketch, and it instantly captured the exact paradox we were looking for:A yellow and black silk qipao paired with a folding fan.The mystery enhanced by a fan cover.Eyes with a strong, alluring gaze as key points of recognition.Incorporating imagery of the Deep Ones from the original texts, KPKSS added tentacle elements to Xu and connected the imagery of "eyes" to peacock feathers.She transformed the feathers—which are naturally full of eye-like patterns—into white mink fur.Upon closer inspection, however, you realize they aren't feathers at all, but tentacles covered in eyes.It was perfect. But then, the survival crisis hit. We had to shelve Xu to focus on characters that were easier to finish. The draft was buried in our archives, and KPKSS eventually left the team. We thought Xu was lost to time.
>>556931839In the summer of 2025, just after we overcame our survival crisis, our update schedule was finally returning to normal. We had just launched Doresain (CV: Takehito Koyasu), the elegant Ghoul King, but we were still deep in "production hell" and needed to plan the next character for the Caro Realm immediately.Our chief scriptwriter, Jiyue, stumbled upon Xu’s old files. She couldn't look away. We decided then and there: Xu would be our featured character for the upcoming Spring Festival.After four years of silence, Xu finally entered production. We reached out to KPKSS once more to lead the redesign. Four years had passed since that initial sketch, and her understanding of the unique visual language of Morimens had grown far deeper and more mature.Our new team members, artist Meimei and scriptwriter Ningyi, collaborated closely with KPKSS to stay true to the original vision while adding new layers.To further emphasize the core concept of "horror beneath beauty," we pushed the design even further:The Texture of Horror: We emphasized "feathers growing from the body like scales," with eyes emerging directly from the flesh.The Magnolia: We added a magnolia symbol to her forehead—a flower whose fragrance is beautiful but signals the onset of decay. It captures Xu perfectly: alluring, powerful, and utterly irresistible.The Voice: We invited Rie Tanaka to play Xu. We asked her to find the delicate balance between maternal tenderness and the "love" of a non-human entity to answer a central question: How would a non-human existence express love?As a funny side note, our scriptwriter Ningyi was so unsettled by the story she was writing that she had repeated nightmares, mostly about the three Concubines and their dark, blurry faces.
>>556932315We wanted to weave Xu’s narrative elements into every part of her—from the writing and gameplay design to the UI and music. Our goal was for players to not only see her, but toread, play, and hear her presence throughout the entire experience.UI: Wang Miaomiao incorporated Xu’s body curves, feather imagery, and signature colors into the typography and decorations of her promotional titles. Seeing the text is like seeing the person.Combat: Battle Designer Mijiu came up with the "Resonance" and "Stealth" mechanics, reflecting her nature as a predator who hides behind allies, waiting for the perfect strike.Music: Composer Frank blended traditional Chinese elements with melodies that shift between comfort and danger.The Stats: Finally, I set Xu’s CON (Constitution) to the highest level in the game. It seems counterintuitive for a character who looks so delicate, but when you realize what she truly is underneath, it makes perfect sense.Xu’s six-year journey from a forgotten sketch to a centerpiece character reflects the spirit of B.I.A.V . Studio. People may come and go, but the creative soul of this project remains.
>>556932461Very nice read, I'm a new player so she's the first release I see but she's definitely one of, if not my favorite design in the game
>>556931839>shelved for six yearsOh god how many more designs are in the icebox?
>>556934386Depends on how many Call of Cthulu campaigns they've played.
>>556930140Yeah everything is cakewalk in hard mode with upgrades, except Arc 2 Ch4 boss. Fuck that thing.
They did a really good job with Xu all around.
if Chaos has Tawil, Aequor gets GMurphy (and/or potentially GTulu) and Caro has ThaisWhat does Ultra have? Or is it tied to Aeon fuckery?
>>556927394thanks anon
>>556943136>What does Ultra have? BUG WIFE! But Caro will get MAGGOT wife soon... And Ultra will get SPIDER WIFE too. The competition is fierce. >Or is it tied to I would say it's a mystery atm.
>>556943136I'm a little confused what do those three awakeners have in common? I know Tawil and Thais have something in common but how does Murph factor in?
>>556943136Horla?
>>556943136Anon, Cthylla and Cthulhu aren't on the same level as the Big Three (Nyarly, Shub, Yog)Cthulhu is still being pushed by his grandfather Yog
Have really been enjoying Ryker this event. Is octo dice generally understood to be his best relic?
>>556948920generally yes but depends on whether your team already has access to vulnthough you'll have all 3 anyway and your decision will be more so which ones to upgrade
What's the 3aequor 1Caro team for hard HSR? 3Lemurian Thais?
>>556949451Yeah, can't go wrong with gmurphy/miryam/tulu/thais
This was only normal difficulty, but Pollux is just plain silly in this mode. I think I got to ~150 of his stacks, too, so more than half of his damage was straight bleed. Considering how safe this team was, I'll try it in Hard mode later.
Fags on leddit are fucking seething LMAO
>>556952914I'm using Pollux to farm all Ultra-related Achievements in hard mode. It's great.
>>556952914It's a fun mode to do silly stuff in general
FUCK MY LIFE
>>556953006why does every single gacha reddit pretends to like male characters giving game designers false hope when they underperform? i thought their demographics was ironic weebs with hentai shirts
>>556953006queensofgacha hate this man
>>556927147What do you guys do to quickly finish the daily?
>>556957965>this manit's either a woman or a "woman"no normal man hates playing male characters
>>556958364when we had normal events I would just do a stage but now that we have this absolute dogshit game mode I guess I'll do traphase or p-dive
>>556956502It is such a shame, when it concerns an indie company the most. Seeing how they handled things I think they can clearly see what pays and what don't, I also checked just to make sure but Morimens is in the top 1000 for top grossing in JP which is stabletier, they might even make more money than global on big patches. The devs will never cater their vision for reddit approval which is a great relief, but will run the PR train of course, the problem with rabid, mentally unwell, approval seeking, freaks is that they are never and will never be satisfied always wanting more, so even though the game started with more females than males, just because they had Castor followed by Doresain, then right after Kath another double banner with Pollux and Pickman, but it was not enough, they need more and more. That is the usual infestation of any form of media, the gangrene arrives then demands to be catered too, they of course do not open their wallet and then scream and shout that they will leave if the devs do not bend the knee, until the knee is then bent which makes the initial player base leave. Glad the devs are sticking to what they want to make and create.
>>556958758meds
i wanna make nymphaea work in d-tide but i cant :<
>>556959570Xu, Lily, Nymphaea, Gdoll is my poison comp in dtideIt's a pretty high investment team because it gdoll but it works.
>>556959726i don't have gDoll and Xu is already being used in my strongest team with daphi'm trying for an extra clear so the WoDs are a bit welfare, but i've been trying nymph, lily, 24, murphy but i do zero dmg and just die eventually
who/what do we blame for the state of this general
>>556965295N
>>556965295me
I have 300ish pullse1 tawil e0 wheele0 castor e0 wheel (unless someone else is better to pull for now that I have him)e0 gelot e3 gelot wheele1 gmurphy e0 wheelhow good are their wheel enlightens? worth pulling from event banner or should I save my pulls for gdoll and use prototypes on them to get them up?
>>556965295all me
>>556966212wheel enlightens are fine but after you get a decent roster of characterI wouldn't pull on the selector banners aside from caro week for Thais and then I'd pick up Pickman heh and Horla once their banners are up in 2 weeks
>>556966212maybe try to get GMurphy e2 at least, but the new blue character looks to be a carry so
morisnooze
Lads can someone give me a good overview on which teams can clear this dtide at alert 3/4?
>>556973090google doc in the OP, meta comp d-tideskeep in mind alert 4 is pretty difficult and typically requires some enlightens on important characters so try clearing 3 for now and move onto 4 when you're feeling confident
Should I get a pizza or buy the male act 2 scam
>>556974903both
I want to build a DTide team around Kathigu Ra, I just got her to E3.I see the meta teams doc has some easy to grab teammate suggestions like Karen and Ogier. Is there any teammate gimmick she really benefits from or is the general idea just to avoid getting in her way as much as possible so she can spam her cards?
>>556966784I have most characters, only "really" missing ryker and gdoll
>>556976121the easiest way for you to figure out how to play her is to watch a replay or two from the dtide leaderboardsE3 Kath is so strong that you can see people play all kinds of teams with her, even very low investment ones
>>556976121As the anon said watching someone do Dtide with her will show you her playstyle and what kind of supports she needs, if you want better sustain we have Horla coming on the 23rd with her wheel being BiS for her in hard content.
>>556976434 (me)oh and hameln and kathI pulled 60 more times and got 2x wheel and 1x tawil
>>556976121Kath needs three things 1) str generator 2) vuln/weak sources 3) Keyflare bot (not required for giga whale with Tawil wheel). Crit buffs are nice but not needed.Clem and Horla are her BiS but you can do without them.
>>556932315I'm not gonna lie, after hearing about the troubled production and near EoS from these threads I was very shocked to hear Koyasu's voice coming out of Doresian. I hope he gets buffed so I can hear him more
>>556946753I assume it's a powerlevel thing, with Thais being core for Caro and G.Murphy being core for Aqua
>>556980739he even has a voiced reproduction frenzy
>>556981469Reproduction frenzy is voiced? Like for all of the awakeners?
How is boss Doll supposed to be fought?
>>556983415so far the only voiced one I've played is Doresain's
>>556985971Oh that's a bit disappointing. I wonder if Xu's is voiced.
When I see people complain about how bad stories are in the endfield threads I recommend them morimens.
>>556988027I mean it's only 1.0 shit cannot get any worse
3 males for the year is perfectly fine by the way. How many characters do they release? 12?
>>556988027Learn to gatekeep stuff.
Wanda, Horla and Daffo before a single copy of Jenkin.
>>556976121karen and ogger are units you use because they're usually not that strong and she can use them. My favorite team for her is Horla Clem Tinct/Hameln/Ryker. The unintuitive thing about Kath is you always go either Will Unyielding or Land of Nonexistence on her and either Feast From Afar or Paradox for covenant, which leads to her having massive amounts of defense. Watch replays and it will become clear.
>>556994405>gatekeeping so hard it EOSs againAnon, we need fresh blood. Plus if the game starts bring in more money maybe we'll get more artwork.
morinight
this is a 3000 point madness clear.
Give me arc 2-4 routes over arc 2-1 routes any day. I fucking hate emergency contact. Worst nigger in the game.
live!
Realm Mastery Caro go brrrr
another runanother hydra and veil
moribump, why did we did again?
I just unlocked OE Tawil and I have to say I can't believe how much stronger she is now. It feels like a G doll level buff. The extra five cards is nice, but refunding 3 arithmetica basically every other turn is insane. Also Gmurphy being introduced into the game was another Tawil buff too.
>>556931839>>556927147wait, wasn't KPKSS back on the team? I remember reading that people were mentioning that the original art director of Morimens (the one that was poached by Bluepoch) returned; was this not the case? Is it? Someone please educate me on this.
>>556980739Game is known for using money in weird ways, like spending way too much in OST in Arc 1 and DioVA in Arc 2.
>>557022842>We reached out to KPKSS once more to lead the redesign. Four years had passed since that initial sketch, and her understanding of the unique visual language of Morimens had grown far deeper and more mature.>Our new team members, artist Meimei and scriptwriter Ningyi, collaborated closely with KPKSS to stay true to the original vision while adding new layers.She did work on Xu at least
>>556980739Light also said that expensive VAs aren't as expensive as you'd think because everything is very streamlined and professional when you are working with them and you don't need to reschedule recordings or do a lot of extra takes and whatnot. And paying extra for a big name usually pays off in the end because famous VAs get people's attention: there are people who started playing the game because of Koyasu
>>557024558Yeah, japanese seiyuu aren't actually as expensive as you'd think. There are exceptions but even A list ones aren't insanely priced. Hilariously, english voice acting tends to be way more expensive.
>>557026769Don't worry, in 2-3 years they will be a myth.
>>557027707Two more weeks right?
>>557027772I don't know why you are defending when they are genuinely bad and yet have really high opinions about themselves.
>>557028598I'm not defending them. I just do not believe that consumer AI will be viable in that usage. For a multitude of reasons. Don't bother replying, I have no interest in engaging.
>>557022952I mean honestly it's based and makes me think they genuinely care about their game and I'm more willing to support them because of it>>557026769The phrase English VA feels like an oxymoron, the quality was awful 25 years ago and it hasn't gotten better at ALL
Will Aurita be the first one to drop from her team when new units come out, or do I need to spend a shitload of my limited D-Jewels on shards and Auritas wheel
>>557029959>>557029570Actually some are good. Silver and Blood has a very decent English dub but I think they are nonames from Europe and not the infamous union ones.
>>557030146What even is her team? Aurita, Cassiah and who is the final member?
>>557033196clem/murphy/tulu
>>557022082HSR killed the game
>>557033196No idea of the actual meta but I throw on Tulu just to lie there and sleep for his discard effects.
>>557034565qrd?
>>557034445>>557034607She is somewhat hard for me. I still don't get how she works.
>>557034660The train mode can be shortend to HSR.That being said I think it's a funny little mode with but the only real problem being making the temporary rewards very grindy.
>>557035209oh i thought you were talking about honkai lmaoyeah i agree on the train mode, at least light said this was a quick prototype for the permanent roguelike mode
>>557035209>just run this mode (that takes two hours on hard) 22 times bro>assuming you never lose otherwise it's even more runswhat were they thinking
>>557035446I just do one run a day.
>>557035718can you do hard with lv60 charas
>>557036726You can with roguelite upgrades and borrowing a carry.
new code with 100(!) standard pullsYouSavedMorimens
>>557036726it's better to first farm normal (with the realm combinations that don't require hard) so you can get as many upgrades from the tree as possible while still working towards the fomo rewardsotherwise your hard runs will be incredibly slow and difficult
>>557037426Odds I do the smart thing and put it into wheels, evens I dump it into caro for fun.
>>557037532you smort
YouSavedMorimens as a code for 100 standard pulls! Also holy crapshit RNGsus loves me! Pull on caro because Agrippa is still only E1, even though Faint is fucking +9, and I could use 2 more for Xu but end up geting GHelot, the only Caro I lack entirely, and my 4th Salv instead as the next 2 characters I pull.
>>557039238>>557037426the masculine urge to ignore wheels and gamble for enlightens on my wife
>>557039653Ignore wheels! Receive waifus!
>>557037426I feel like you are trying to pull one on me..
>>557040120its real
>>557039752i'm starting to think wheel jail is a mistake after titanblade, at least until you've OE'd standards you want to OE. OE Winkle and Liz and Karen are a big deal and even Leigh's is a real upgrade.
>>557039238Wew my Will Unending went from O2 to E4
>>557040897it's not a mistake, you get lots of standard characters from the limited banner alreadymeanwhile having a +12 bloody feast, downpour, incalc, Jenkin's wheel (forgot its name) can be a massive boost to certain characters/teamsthat's without even going into some niche options people still go for like memory spiral, will unyielding, fin of sorrow etc
>>557043460you're completely and objectively correcthowever
>>557040717Time to waste 100 rolls for my girl Tawil.
>>557043460>you get lots of standard characters from the limited banner alreadyI have a lot of limiteds and only have one OE standard character, and it's because I was pulling on the aequor banner before i knew what retarded garbage it was. My Karen is E0. My Liz is E1. Like do you actually have OE'd standard rosters without rolling on standard character banner?
>>557045043tawil is good to pull on the selectabanner cause her wheel is really good...
Chapter 4 boss got nerfed again>The enemy's "Paradise Veil" ability has been weakened:>The duration of the "Sealed" effect of the state "Dream Chain" after being broken is reduced from 2 turns to 1. >The Tentacles and Tentacle Limit gained from "Divine Realm Mirage" and "Divine Realm Mirage: End" are reduced from 2 to 1.
>>557045657what's even the point of the sealed effect if it only lasts one turn between heatlh bars...
>>557045657finally, that boss is crazy overtuned compared to everything else in the game>>557045489you're right, I don't have many OE standards but getting specific ones to OE isn't particularly difficult with reset pyramidsand imo even at OE, most standards aren't that great but I guess you could make the same argument about the more niche +12 wheels
>>557045489Same here. My only OE standard is Sanga who I never use and I've been playing for ~7 months. I don't think you get nearly enough off-rate standards on limited banners unless you're a very unlucky whale
$75 for a tinct dupe. is this worth it?
>>557048085
>>557048085in the tiny off chance you're being serious, absolutely not
>>557048085what a deal
>>557048218do it morifriend, support the small indie developer
enjoy your "amidst the downpour", wheel cagies.
>>557052443based
>>557059430based
>>557037426unexpected but appreciatedthanks
is it just me or does the STS mode kinda... suck?
>>557063750i thought so at first, but now that I'm OP its kind of fun. I think its too long to enjoy actual challenging runs though and the fomo achievements werent well thought out.
>>557063750I think it's fun, especially with the veil nerf.There's a bunch of things that could improve (e.g., half of the skill tree are just stats) but I think it's fine for the first iteration of something new.
>>557063750I was somewhat disappointed by it at the start too, I expected more novelty. But I think it gets better once you unlock more meta progression buffs, they allow you to play silly stuff with big numbers. Plus it's merely a beta for a future roguelike mode. Hopefully they'll learn something from this one
is this still a scam?
>>557065037as long as you recognize that its a wheel + character banner and you can hit two wheels before hitting the character, meaning its up to 180 rolls to hit one copy of the character, its not a scam. But if you dont want two copies of the wheel its a scam.
>>557063750it gets a LOT more fun once you max all the chapter passives, and having to choose between raw stats and chapter passives for a while is one of the things I dislike about the mode. you dont even mind facing tawil when you get a maxed polar dusklight for your trouble.
>>557063750it makes me want to reinstall czn
>>557065797you should. current czn patch is really fun.
>>557052443>>557041308 (me)I did anon, thank you
>>557063750>>557065797Just play both.
>>557067481>spending ~660 pulls on a land of nonexistence sidegradethis will never make sense to me
>>557069802nta but don't people also use it on Lily and Sanga?
they changed the reward quests or am i high
>>557071254 (me)nvm there's two different reward thingies
>>557059430I love my wife, time to pull for enlightens
>>557069802>660 pullsIn a hundred I got six copies. If anything it's 300~ pulls.
>>557071329yeah it's confusing, one's for the permanent rewards and the other for the fomo rewards (terrible design)
>>557071027It's permanently on my Lily. The added Strike helps Lily activating her wheel. And yeah it's good on Sanga too if you play her.
my 100 rolls went really bad but i cant complain based on how well the scams went
ive heard people mention "farm affection" to 10 but how do you do it fast? (without burning stam)
>>557072397the 22 clears one is the temp or perma?
>>557072976I got two extra free enlightens for when I reset helot, so not terrible
>>557075348temp, that's what makes it awful, you only have 27 days to do the runs which is an insane amount of playtimeI guess people will start complaining more once the event nears its end and they realize they won't physically make it in time
>>557071027if its for lily I have no complaints, its good on her and I like Lily as a unit (mouchette's flashlight is also good, but its good on horla too). Its the Kath thing I dont like.
>>557072373it's 1 every 42.5, rolling 6 in 100 is a level of luck you'll probably never see again.
>>556927147Did they say whats the next banner?
>>557081626horla, pickman, 24
>>557081626SUPER HEAVY WEAPONRY Aequor
>>55708162624+Horla+Pickman rerun and mystery new female Aequor>>557076146
>>557082540>>557076146Ah sorry, didn't mean to quote
So if a relic says "after using keyflare rouse" doesn't it become useless after everyone os roused?
>>557083067it does but this is like saying a relic becomes useless after doing something at the beginning of battle and never again, it really matters what the thing it does isfor example the one that gives arithmetica on rouse is very nice because it lets you rouse essentially for free
>>557082540I wonder what weapons she will get, I have a feeling she will be like Drake but that would be too easy, really looking forward to another glass canon DPS like smouchette
>>557083467Yeah but I think most effects are just not that good.
>>557083912Smouche the Mouche
>>557084093this goes for most arc 2 relics to be fair
some of my favorite HSR relics (aside from portrait relics):1.) The camera that gives silver key gleam for 750 keyflare every turn. If you upgrade it it will only cost 375 keyflare and will double the silver key gleam posse, so the upgrade makes it 4x better. Probably my favorite.2.) Boss relic that double plays cards after exalt. It works on non-awakener cards too so you can play double polar dusklight, double honey mead, etc. You can even double-play rouses.3.) Ultra-exclusive relic that gives weakvuln on turn 1 and after annihilation once every 3 rounds. When upgraded it will apply two stacks, so its basically free weakvuln forever.4.) Max arithmetica +2
>>557084093>>557086336My ratings of On Rouse relics, just because I'm bored:Draw 2/4 cards - Often overdraws so kinda badGain 2/4 Arith - OP as fuckGain 10/20 Aliemus - Beneficial but underwhelmingGain shields - OP as fuckHeals - Worse version of gain shields but still niceGain STR - Solid for STR scalersGain counters - Useless as fuckInflict poisons - Okay-ish in poison teams, otherwise uselessGain base damage - Only decent-ish with GhelotGain Retain + Prepare - Pretty nicheConsume Keyflare to make Rouse free - Worse version of Gain ArithExhaust card and copy it - Pretty niche
>>557083912I feel like the powerlevel is going down after GMurphy, Smouchette is great but not super busted just really good at what she does so I'm curious to see how the new aequor is gonna be, probably a skip for me I'm not hurting for a dps in that realm
>>557089942I feel like shields vs heals depends on the team. Like I don't really need more shields if I'm playing kath or castor but they often lack any way to recover HP(if you aren't splashing thais at least) so having it is nice.
>>557086750pretty good list, in general I think most of the caro relics are pretty op too, including the cursed one (100% embryo fusion every turn but unused embryos are discarded)>>557089942mostly agree on everything except the healing one, I think it's very good because you can use it to heal between stages by drawing out fights and rousing for the heal alone
>>557091746The thing about shield vs heal is that you're almost always rousing on the first turn and you're also almost always getting hit in the first turn, meanwhile the heal if useless if you going in the fight with full hp (in which you should, especially in boss).
>>557091968Going into fights at full HP is a crapshoot if you don't already have healing to begin with. You WILL take chip damage in long stages, it's basically inevitable.
>>557092186you're probably rightand I also forgot that hsr has a 50% healing debuff
>>557075425helo e1 made my mouchette clear more consistent, also when was the last time they gave a reset, at anni?
>>557099581yeah we talk about reset pyramids a lot but they are very rare. like two a year rare as far as I know. also not clear if they'll even exist going forward with +12 bonuses in the game.
moribump
imo you should always be trading life for sigils aside from maybe the very last shop so you should always be going into major fights at less than max hp
100 rolls used, Alva, Pandria and Nymph obtained again.
morinight, don't let N win!
>>557068228play neither
>>557089942the counter one isn't too bad if you're playing counter and get it early
If the permanent roguelike mode was just HSR but they went crazy on creating tons of new relics I think I'd play it a ton. Racking up tons of powerful game-warping effects really just scratches an itch for me.Do I have to join their discord to give feedback on the new mode or should I just wait for the inevitable survey to be sent out?
>>557075250The two fastest ways are clearing dtide wave 3 at low alert level or playing traphase. Neither require stamina.
>>557075250wave 3 alert 1 or 2, equip these wheels if you have them and borrow a whale support for more affection gain and to make it faster. takes around an hour to go from 1 to 10 if you auto
Man I feel really shit at this game, can't even get a single clear on normal HSR.
>>557121384>tons of new relics I think I'd play it a tonout of all the expectations I had for the mode that one was the most expected, but alas
>>557127506don't worry, it gets easier with more upgrades. just do what you can and get some points to unlock them
>>557127506Borrow a pollux.
>>557063750It's alright they just need to fine tune some things for next season
I got Wanda 2 days ago. Does she need heavy investment or high enlightment?
>>557136663She needs all she can get
>>557127506grab a level70-80 Kath and pair her with anything that can inflict weakness/vuln.
>>557132502>>557139594I borrowed a GHelot and was able to clear normal but had to use 2 revives. Final boss was some giant mosquito with three health bars all of which were obscene and he pulled out what felt like an IK move twice.
I can't help but think the new banner is a giant scam and I should just get Xu to E3 and start saving up for Pickman.
another codeXVAV-HBKW-SLHK
>>557142116it's a scam only if you want just the character or just the wheelif you want both, it has higher rates than pulling for them separately
>>557142741thanks bwo>>557141343ghelot is actually kinda tricky to play with the self damage and how burst focused she is
>>557141343To be honest I feel like Ghelot is one of the most overrated units. She isn't bad per say, but she isn't the holy grail noob friendly unit some people tout her as.
>>557144018NTA but i disagree, i started 2 weeks ago and borrowing a ghelot carried me to top 70 madness clear on this p-dive, she feels busted and quite fun
Nbump
>>557144018she doesn't do everything the way kath does, but her damage is the highest. idk if she deserves to be called noob friendly though mobbing can be complicated.
>>557148205If I were to recommend noobs borrow something I'd probably recommend Kath, Pollux, or Castor over Ghelot myself. Kath and Castor because they are do everything units and Pollux just because fat damage without any real hoops.
as someone who started at 2nd anni i've never heard ghelot get called noob friendly, maybe it's something people said back in arc 1 when she released because her competition was ummm temp counter daffodil.
>>557144240I'm also new and whale Mouchette carried my ass more than any character, I tried Ghelot but I feel like I don't have the hp to make her work she looks fun I wonder if I should try to get her in the one in a million thing.
how am I supposed to play a 3caro 1aequor team vs doll on hard? do I just have to restart if I get her world 4?
>>557150203idk why I said world4, I mean arc3 of HSR.
>>557150203Just slap the blue of your choice into a ghelot team.
>>556927147We need a New realm.
>>557142919I already have Tawil's wheel. I don't know if I should risk getting her this way.
>>557155641you shouldn't, it can take up to 180 pulls worst case scenario
>>557156634I guess Tawil also want high enlightment.
>>557157174yes. people say E3 but in reality i never see anyone play her below OE.
>>557157674I've got her at e3. To be honest OE doesn't actually do that much for her beyond adding consistency. It's nice and saves you resets on the hardest content but isn't strictly mandatory. Definitely massive quality of life though.
>>557158587>>557157674So I will just wait for her rate up then.
you guys probably know this. but this takes a LOT of time. if you want that refined fragment you'll really want to progress asap.
>>557160809>14 clears in 3 dayshave you even slept?
Im actually enjoying doing a diff comp every day for HSR, i hope that the next version is draft and you pick up waifus along the way
Is the Xu bundle better than the Lily one? And are there such bundles for future acts?
>>557161042normal clears become very fast... eventually.
>>557161042It's only really slow in the first few runs if you don't deliberately play slow teams. Once you get most of the upgrades it's shouldn't take more than 25-35 min per run.>>557162068Which Lily bundle?
>>557160809>if you want that refined fragment you'll really want to progress asap.I'll uhhhhh pass. Maybe if I had more time.
>>557162068the Lily pack is 50 rolls for 15 bucksthe Xu pack is roughly ~200 rolls for 30 bucksall acts have similar bundles to Lily's yes but they're not time limited like Xu's
>>557160809I think they set the ceiling high on purpose, don't think it's meant for everyone but only the most dedicated, which is why you get blue ball rewardAlway rember to not stress yourself over fomo and do whats fun
Moribump!
>>557160809take a shower stinky
holy shit bros i solved the meta
>>557173953oh wtf aftershock only works once per turn?
Hmmm out of curiosity what is the Wanda team?
anyone have an uvhash4 replay?cant find any on dtide
>>556927147I was planning to oe GDoll as my first but I somehow got GMurphy dupes in scams and now I'm wondering which one I should prioritize to oe?
>>557179894im starting to think this guy sucks
NOOOO NOT YOU AGAIN
>decide to try new gamemode on normal>Hydra followed by Ghoul rape domain>"Nah, I don't want to do it" >use auto >my team comp casually beats overseer and deep-sea priest I'm so fucking retarded it's unreal....
>>557183092bwo...
>>557179894>>557181884people don't play him much not because he's completely awful but because no one would use their Thais with him when they can use her with GHelot and clear with less thought and effortthis is not dtide but roughly how he plays in general, just keep in mind he doesn't necessarily need Winkle in astral reign because he can double ult by just having his portrait relichttps://youtu.be/SYtD92WM6Kc
>>557181782E3 GMurphy is way better than E3 GDoll, but OE GMurphy is also better than OE GDoll. So its a question of what you need out of your teams right now.
>>557183391worth mentioning this gets cucked by arithmetica harmony in arc2...
>>557183871now read his soulforge
>>557183391ty anonyeah i'm trying him for an extra clear without thais and it's rough but maybe doable
>>557184789I honestly wouldn't bother trying without Thais unless you're on a fairly low difficulty. You need to essentially be able to one turn bosses otherwise you'll just be running around with 1 hp and burn through your DR very quickly.
>>557184167o i c thats more playable than I thought.
Fuck. Went through a train Hard mode run, but couldn't kill arc 2 ch 4 boss without an emergency gnosis. Even after the nerf to it's sealing capabilities, that thing's a menace.
Just 10 more copies and I can escape Wheel jail...
>>557186575Good luck, anon! That thing's a staple for a reason!
>>557186575you get some wheel dupe items when reaching certain levels or advancing the story cant remember which one so its not really 12
>>557183326*cough* Go on... Without me... Ma kippas.
>>557185653yeah i was able to one turn the boss doing a billion dmg but then couldnt get it together again after the rouse
>>557187026(i'd save those for limited wheels)
thanks for the 100 pulls, they went surprisingly well
>>557188807they're not an option it's like protoparadise but for wheels, maybe i got it from buying stuff? idk can't remember
If I'm regularly winning Hard mode HSR but I'm right on the edge of needing to use Gnosis should I even bother trying madness? Or am I just gonna get wrecked?The extra points would be nice but I'm guessing it's beyond my reach if I don't even have a single awakener at OE or above level 70. Account level is 62 if that matters.
>>557191252after an anon posted this >>556825323 in the last thread I don't think I'm touching madness in the near future
>>557185653not very high diff but we got there woo
>>557193462very nice, good job
>>557191252madness is waaay harder, I'm beating hard with no effort but needed to gnosis for chapter 1 madness boss. If you look at the leaderboard there are teams that have done it, but at a minimum you'll want every upgrade then will fish for a specific blessed relic at the start.
>>557173953i won with this but what is up with aftershock only working once per card per turn? I had no idea it worked that way.
>>557195079How would you be able to tell it works only once? Do you like discard a card and then somehow get it back from the discard pile to discard it again?
>>557195468this deck:>>557173953stopped doing anything on aftershock after the first two poofs (32 card deck, 18 card hand, so after 2 poofs everything had been discarded at least once). tulu rouse triggers still worked the entire time so that carried me.
>>557196085(also, its not a poof problem, saw the same behavior using lily posse and corpo exalt)
how does the aftershock mechanic work?
>>557196085hmm that's weirdmaybe it really does work that way or there might be more to it and something else is causing itcould also be a bug
>>557196683when you discard a card with aftershock (either through some effect or at the end of the turn) it triggers its aftershock effect
>>557183391The person in video sent their Uvhash to the black pool btw
>>557202491I have a feeling she's not very fond of male characters or men in general.
is hameln anyone else's favorite or is it just me.
moriBUMP
Why do I always think that the daily reset happens one hour before it actually happens..
i haven't seen anyone make this kind of list before, what are my major errors?
>>557225057ok faint should be higher vertically than winkle and higher than everyone besides helot, but aside from that.
Anyone got an E3 Ryker I can borrow?
>>557226737N is currently winning but hopefully somebody will reply later...
>>557225057I feel like putting helot way the fuck up at the top when she really only works well with mouchette is kind of weird. Pandia is too high.
morinight.. survive..
sex with Erica very rapidly becoming sex with the Tick-Tock Man
Which general needs to be murdered to slow down /vg/?
>Decide to try Traphase>everything is completely different>have no idea what anything does or what is or isn't good or bad>build a team I don't understand and get thrown into a draft and end up with an entirely different team and loadout anyway.>zero idea of what the strategy is or what I should do or target first. Reading what the cards and exalts do as I use them. Essentially one step up from clicking things completely at random.>win 3 times in a rowI don't think this is how it's supposed to work.
>>557237595all hoyo generals
>>557239835you play against bots until 1500 elo, it's newbie protection to let you learn the mode
>>557233613she's there because she's +100% final dmg for mouchette as well as ghelot, which is really unusual for this game let alone for standards. also its funny how bad her OE is.
>>557236865why is tick-tock's enlightens so bad???? I want to E3 because its her turn but paying 24k d-jewels for that garbage is painful.
>>557236865anon don't do it
>>557186575You do know that wheel jail is what starts after you have "finished" wheel jail, right?
>>557191723>12K damage>tfw have trouble blocking 400 damage consistentlyI'm scared
>>557244578I dropped wheel jail after 3 +12 wheels. I'd rather get more character dupes, especially in light of absolute axioms. I never really had a moment when I felt like 'gosh I wish I had that +12 rat wheel right now' but plenty of times when I was 'god I wish I had this standard OE'
>>557245138To be fair you can get a silly amount of shields in that mode too
>>557158587You know it gives her 3 arithmetica per exalt right? You basically get it every other turn
>>557246975Honestly her team has so much arith flying around I wouldn't notice 3 more.
>>557247074I guess that's fair but most of the time it turns into exalt+ gmurphy draw 2/gain 2 so I gain another 7. It feels insane every time and honestly made her jump up a personal tier.
>>557158587which a5 wave can i take my e2 tawil to in this d-tide rotation?
we need another character with a sigil based kit
>>557248012I want another character that uses Sin Marks to synergize with Pollux so I can get more funny numbers
What set does Thais use
>>557252810the baby
>>557252810The keytus.
Female Keeper is super pretty actually.
>>557252810Dinner.
>>557256848Okay Ramona
>>557240002nta but that's a lieI'm literally at 0 rating in draft and my first 2 matches were against people one of whom was at like 3k rating
>>557258516i guess they changed it..it used to be that if you had less than 1500 rating you were mostly playing against bots, with the first match every day being a guaranteed bot opponent. but it was before they added draft
>>557245357Same. Wheel jail is vastly overblown desu.
>>557258845I think when they added draft it might've broken their bot system because I don't think I've ever faced one since.Then again it might be related to the massive increase in players rather than anything else.
>>557261029Bots are probably more likely if you tick the box for equal ranked opponents or whatever it is called and there aren't any.
>>557265514you know what, that makes perfect senseI assumed it meant an increase in queue times so I unchecked it
What's better, E0 Wanda, E0 Horla or getting Daffodil to E1? I have a purple Ultra Mapping
>>557266696e0 horla
>>557226737mine is E1 but you can filter your supports by deselecting everyone and then selecting just Rykermost of the ones you'll find that way will probably be OE or +12
What's the best way to clear d-tide when your account is underdeveloped?
>>557271521going to depend on your account/roster... which you should post.
>>557272278
>>557274153my number one feedback is do your dailies, you have tons of great characters all you have to do is level them which doesn't actually take all that long in this game. if you have stamina bundles use them in the 24 event.anyways the four teams i would play in DTide are: GMurphy+Miriam+Tulu+Goliath (probably your strongest team)Thais+Pickman+Doresain+ClementineCastor+Jenkin+whoever you have leveledMouchette+Helot+Aigis+Gramona, yeah mouchette really wants A2 but whateveryou also have a nearly built discard team, corposant aurita murphy and ideally you can selector a casiah, i'm bad at the team though so can't give advice how to play it.then your fifth team just borrow a level 90.
>>557189168wtf what 100 pulls
>>557278639>>557037426
>>557279778FUCK i almost missed that thanks
How long did GRamona's loops last? Like a day? A week? More? I'm kind of unclear on that bit.I'm just wondering how old she'd be "mentally" like how in Madoka Homura is around 26 or so due to going through 100 or so month long loops.
>having a good madness run>act 3 is veil'twas not meant to be
>>557183527I see thanks, are GDoll teams more restrictive? I know that GMurphy runs with Goliath, Tulu and Myriam and I'm not using them in other teams so it's fine, I was thinking of doing GDoll first since GMurphy felt strong enough even with oe but idk I still haven't used last month's horizon prototype but I'd like to start trying to clear alert 3+.
>>557283962OE GDoll technically can be used as a general purpose "aliemus battery" but thats pretty fake. You're OEing her for poison most of the time, and I'm not an expert but as I understand it the premium version is a Xu team right now. Its strong, people clear alert 5s with this, but you're not totally taken care of the way Kath/Cator/Lemurians make you feel safe all the time.OE GMurphy will go with three Lemurians and will be the strongest team in game.
>>557283962>>557286805also my E3 GMurphy is what I use for the hardest alert4s so if alert3 is your goal you shpuld already be fine there.
>...
>>557289295you can tank that, you just need 4000% death resist.
>>557280691If the clock is any indication she's looped over 700 times or something.
>>557289295Nah I'd win
>>557289295its actually retarded how easy the puppet is compared to this thing. desu the puppet isnt hard enough but HSR madness makes the imbalance feel freakin rough.
>>557289817No yeah I get that, I'm unclear on how long each loop was. The core point of the loop was GRamona trying to save the Keeper from dying in the key ceremony but was each loop just the events of that day, or did she reset to a certain point beforehand (like a day before, a week before, etc.) so that each loop lasted say, a week, or a month, and so on. This is an entirely superfluous question but I'm wondering about the logistics of it.
>>557291804At one point she says she tried leaving the Keeper in Yasutsk, so it seems like a year
>>557297839>GRamona is hundreds of years old mentallyMan she has it way worse than Homura.
GRamona sent us a wheel for valentines. Affinity farming keyflare R wheel, but because GRamona sent it it's cuckold themed.
this is all i have left for wave 5 alert 3 is it doable or pass
>>557302560mouchette (wave 5) is the hardest boss I've seen in d-tidegranted I've only been playing for 60 days, but she is nasty, and you dont have any damage there.
>>557302825yeah true, i wish 24 did dmg...
>>557302825She's pretty hard by usual standards but the last two dtides were also uncharacteristically easy.
>>557302560can't you just do alert 2 if you can't handle 3?
>>557150203E2+ GMurphy can cheese that fight for a free win
>>557305258it's an extra clear so it has to be same diff
>>557305696oh that makes more senseI'm surprised you didn't use Hameln or Murphy anywhere on your other teamsI wonder if a scuff blue 24 can clear alert 3
>>557307090i haven't found a spot for hamln since i dont have tawil/ryker etc and i only see him therei just got murphy the other day after i had already cleared wave 3 with caecusand i tried a scuffed blue 24 with murphy and she couldn't even clear wave 1 regular mobs lmao
page 8 in 20 minutes crazy work
>>557307917hameln is a premium keyflare cuck like clementine. he's always run with tawil because rondino on twinwings is good and tawil needs it real bad, but in reality hameln is a super generic unit that will be the best life drain holder in any chaos comp. play around with him its actually a blessing to not have him shackled to tawil because he's so good everywhere, even a unit like kath that cant use rondino well can use the free arithmetica from memory rondino extremely well. my favorite unit btw.
>>557310179oh also hameln rouse is outrageously strong in everything. as a unit i legitimately think he's up there with thais.
>>557310179>>557310703hadn't paid much attention to him but will test him out more, thanks morifren
Ramona LOVE
>>557315669I love Ramona's exalt animation, but it kinda sucks that her exalt and keyflare generation are her only real strong points.
Anyone else think that train mode is surprisingly comfy? I don't dare try madness, but normal and hard can feel like taking a walk through Morimens Greatest Hits.
Fuck felt like my Pollux team had it way easier than my GMurphy team on hard.Pls buff blue.
>>557323346That's because of Pollux's damage scaling up after each fight. Usually there are only 3-4 fights per map, but in train mode you're guaranteed a lot more fights before the final boss.
>>557275703>if you have stamina bundles use them in the 24 event.not that anon, but am I retarded? I can't find a 24 event (I'm looking in the same place Huangpu Whispers is at) so I've been throwing all my Menophin into the Potion Tempering Interlude and it's appalling return on investment
>>557323346Pollux just clears normal fights faster than GMurphy who needs a bit of setup and/or a well built Tulu to carry against aoe. Also what the other anon said.
>>557324307it's not up yet
>tried an OE12 Castorhow is this fair, life is so easy, can't wait for the Xu/New Poison chara/Castor comfy gaming
>>557037426>(You)SavedMorimensall me btw
is the next rotato banner caro?
>>557329920I would assume Aqua based on the in game filtering in the Awakeners menu and how they're laid out in the S1 paid gacha. I'm assuming it'll rotate Chaos > Aqua > Caro > Ultra
>>557329920Aeqour
How badly did chapters 8 and 9 suffer from the potential eos?
>>557331541From what little I know, the bird bros were supposed to be featured during Thais' chapter but had to be scrapped for time. I have a feeling they wanted every storyline to span 2 chapters, with the bird bros being in one of the desert chapters. There was a GDoll story between 7 and 8 that was referenced at one point in chapter 8, but we've never seen it because it never released. There was probably more cut content besides those. Chapter 9 itself feels kind of like the culmination of a longer story, but it ended about as well as it could have, given the circumstances.
you're rolling for THIS?
>>557334849No. I ALREADY rolled for that.>>557334725Out of all the cut content I really hope they revisit the gdoll bit one day.
>>557334849I wish this was how her character l2d was my god
>>557336461I know right? It's fucking hot.
>>557336461L2D is dogshit and should not exist however
>>557335813Yeah, GDoll's such a popular character that the devs could make a killing off of her origin story. Even a new CG or two showing her descent into madness would be cool.
>>557340059at what point did she take off her pants forever?
>>557340758That's her secret: she never wore pants.
I don't like the implications of the mail.
Has this character ever been shown before? She's adorable!
so I just started the game and already run into a glitch? in the first none prologue mission, I beat the final boss of the mission and now I can't leave, there's no exit and clicking quit mission on the menu does nothing, I alt f4 and came back, redid the mission and the exact same thing happen.am I just fucked? can I not play the game?
>>557350763She shows up for a little bit in Ryker's event, but i think that's it
>>557351668I've never run into an issue like that before. Maybe try the redownload option on the title screen ("Fix," I think)? If all else fails, contact support. The devs are usually pretty quick to fix bugs like that if they're informed of it.
>>557351668I'm having the same issue with dtide right now I think it might be global, I have to restart every time I clear
>>557351668I literally just had that happen to me too but in D tide.
I knew having the client load so fast to get in was not normal kek
>>557353168I did the fix thing and when I lunch the game again the mission was mark as completed and I got all the rewards, I went to the next mission and the same thing happen.guess I need to contact support then.
>>557354349>>557354427ok nvm then, guess the new patch brought the problem, I just started at an unfortunate time.
>>557358606Yeah, I'd expect it will be fixed pretty quickly but definitely sucks.
i want to play the game...
>>557346117Last year was normal Ramona. The letter references the flowers(wheel) she sent last year. It's a valentines gift.
How do you live without having your team be caro/aequor?I wanna use my purple and chaos characters but they always get low hp by attrition because I can't heal or go into white tentacle stance.
>>557367852they also have plenty defensive skills just harder to use in ultra's case
>>557367964Do the character's heals and damage debuffs ever start scaling properly to the enemy? 30 heal when enemy is doing 100x3 damage is not really useful
>>557367852Aequor a shit! Can't live without my Caro though.
>>557368204mostly yeah, clem with rouse can lower that a lot with a single cast and/or if you have a few stored on ultra (that you totally planned for as a defensive round), similar with horlaand castor will just shield thru it
i just got morikicked tf out :[
>>557368968I have horla and she seems to underpreform a bit. How am I supposed to use her?
>>557368204Not really you will never have enough heals but shields are alright, future characters are going to be more and more streamlined in terms of understanding and usage and what they do though.
>>557369449generally you just have her on yellow for free aliem, but occasionally can help with shielding or burst roundsshe's really strong but her E1 is quite big for weak/vuln
>>557367852I've recently taken to playing gmurphy/miryam/xu/thais is how.
Looks like they put the game offline for maintenance. I took a quick skim through the dicksword and people there were also having issues completing explorations, so it's probably to fix that. Pretty uncharacteristic of BIAV to have to do this. Just hope it gets fixed soon, because I'm about to start my shift.
it's up!
we're moriback
>>557367852there are three characters in this game that are allowed to block. kathugira, castor, and gmurphy lemurians, and most people are usually playing one of them.also lily and gdoll are big chaos healers.
So is there a reason her breasts are made of lightning texture
>>557373298She is that cool.
>>557373298N-no reason
>>557375469>bottled tornado Who should we expect that to be? Ithaqua?
>>557375469When are we getting cosmic tits. Not purple, actual space texture
>>557375548Inuit cannibal waifu.... Imagine...
>>557373298St Elmo's Fire.
>>557373298anti-rape defense system
>>557367852As a chaos/ultra player, I simply don't take any damage
>>557377090She is the one doing the raping.
fuck me this too FIVE (5) emergency gnonis this nigga fucking sucks
>>557378130Disgusting bug wife clem is probably the easiest of the bosses.
>>557378130Is that the bug boss? Doresain and Pickman should have a good match up into it.
>>557378506>>557378625iunno i ate shit throughout the run thanks to no shields, poor synergy with the shield relics and IN COMBAT RECOVERY BEING HALVED FOR SOME FUCKING REASON
>>557377389>>557373298Does she appear in the story? Is she normal there?
>>557378728Gotta pump up your realm mastery on your Caro team, bro. Pic related is just from D tide; in train mode, shit gets wacky.
>>557378728Salvador could've helped. I also would've upgraded the strength down relic to gold.
>>557378917She has a normal version in her event story.
>>557378506space bug has a blessor mechanic on some attacks where it does huge attacks that are easy to block if you have shields because the damage goes down for each point of shield, then it punishes you for having low hp with extra attacks, so if you're not a big shielding team it hurts.
can I use aigis' wod without using her? It seems very strong to me.
>>557384961nobody stopping you
>>557384961Sure, nothing stopping you. Wheels can often times be useful on plenty of other characters than the one they are for.
kind of feel obligated to OE pollux after this past week of hsr.
>>557385184some people Flares claim he falls off in madness difficultycan't confirm nor deny whether this is true
I'm getting my ass beaten on normal...
>>557385427he probably falls off a lot because I assume the madness meta is abusing the gimped arithmetica harmony and going infinite, which pollux fundamentally can't do much with because he's hard limited on sacred hearts per turn. but i don't have the patience for t*wil stuff.
>>557385812Normal is easy as long as you get some upgrades from the tree. It's absolutely something newer players might struggle with before they get upgrades though. Don't feel bad.
>>557385812borrow a lvl90 pollux until you get some tree upgrades.
>>557385427he's retardedmost of the initial madness clears were with pollux comps
>>557385427oh no no no
>>557386507>after the battleis that only once, or is it +20% after EACH battle?
>>557387196each
>>557387095>makes reddit seethe uncontrollablyhow does he do it?
>>557387196yes, at the end of an HSR run castor, clem, and pollux have +400% base damage, which is all multiplicative with damage amplification. this is quite broken on normal and hard but you'll still need to work to hit the 120+ million damage you need for final bosses.
>>557385427It was true before Pollux's stacks used to be capped at 99% or five fights, but it's since been fixed.
>>557387691*on madness
>>557354881Maybe it's that server bug which they compensated everyone 2000 silver for
>>557388668It is. I'll gladly take 2k for the trouble and my stash for whoever the new blue is.
new codeEQUB-ATGJ-PJUV
she fine tho
Aaaiiieee....
>>557394807the first node lets you expand to 16 in case you missed it
>>557394749and 3 moreDXCN-YDEA-JCKAZVFT-FMZJ-DTLSHKAJ-UQAG-BFTV
>>557394975>>557394749morithanks fren
*cough*
xu-Lilly really fucks up all the tohuwabohu balls. too bad ant cleanses.
Jenkin, I love you dearly, but could you please give some other Ultra awakeners a turn?
>>557402770nice roster. E1 your horla!!!!!!!!
Could any morifren explain to me how Pollux scales so well in HSR?
>>557403840the second paragraph of his passive here >>557386507
once again i suffer from resets being on mondays
bros, Horla's back garden is empty and is open to new visitor. the time has come!
>>557403441Don't wanna. Horla's pretty, but unfortunately also kind of boring.
MORIBUMP (playing d2)
>>557406685sorry but Horla is for (me) you can wait in another garden
What are you playing between train runs, /mori/bros? I started a new campaign in Battle Brothers.
>>557412906my other scuff gacha called yog but honestly i've actually been enjoying the train more that i thought i would
gay
>>557394749>>557394975>1200 silverthanks
QOT: will the counter kill me during Sorel's ult
NEW CODESEQUB-ATGJ-PJUVHKAJ-UQAG-BFTVZVFT-FMZJ-DTLS
>>557417439these were already posted
>>557385427Love how he went "I totally received death threats, but I don't have the screens teehee, despite having autistically recorded every instance of anyone saying anything remotely bad about me"
So who should I pick?
>>557417439where are these from btw?
>>557418934i say kathigu-ra cause I enjoy playing her more (and she's still fucking broken)
>>557418934Hameln is a great support
>>557417287it shouldn't, sorel's ult should be 35 hits here and that's only 560 counter damage
>>557412906i'm trying to like mewgenics but I don't think I do
>>557420650correct!
>>557412906got back into diablo 2. Enjoying the boomer life.
morinap maybe
>>557428945Really would've taken my sweet time with the mode if they didn't attach FOMO rewards but that's on me I guess. Would've preferred it if he missions had rewards for doing X a certain amount of times and N's buffs weren't attached to the reward track.
>>557428945grats anon, you may shower now
>>557418934I'd say that Tawil is the least likely to get a rerun any time soon, so her if you like her playstyle
Hm I have more fun watching auto play my counter/shield team than me actually play it.
>>557436029Is the AI even decent enough to play it?
>>557385870>abusing the gimped arithmetica harmony and going infiniteThe what?
Have a good morinight, bros
>>557439024arithmetica harmony in hsr just makes your cards cost 1 more instead of increasing their cost with every card played
>>557438686I mean this was just normal and and you have a lot of support relics. The team always had a fat shield and the counter was building up by just playing the cards.
>>557439042nyooo who is going to keep the genereal alive
Does Liz want her WoD?
>>557439024arc 2 rules normally stop you from going infinite by making you pay 1 more arithmetica per card above 10 you play per turn, meaning after your 15th card you need to pay 6 additional arithmetica on top of its base cost, this on top of a hard cap of 12 arithmetica (overflow gets converted to keyflare) makes it effectively impossible to go infinitein hsr however it gets changed to a flat +1 arithmetica for every card played past the 10th so it's still possible to go infinite
so who do I reroll for? does it matter? or can I just dick pick?
>>557449256You can dick pick it. You get lots of standard rolls and I believe newbies get a couple standard selectors as well.
>>557449543I went with WInkle back when I started but ever since then I've been thinking - can you actually get a legacy Awakener as your starter?
>>557449256Check the threads for codes and YouSavedMorimens for 100 standard pulls, get 1 copy of Xu and tomorrow you will be able to roll on GMurphy with the one in a million banner, get a copy of her as welll
>>557449665It's only the standard standards. I went with nautlia back when I started myself.
>>557449543ok thanks, I went with Agrippa because shes pure sex.>>557449769neat, I'll use the codes now.>get 1 copy of Xuhow? just rolling for her in the banner? shes the malepeacock looking one right?
>>557451381Yes the one with the Fan, 1 copy is enough because we will get a new character in a week and there's a high chance she will be a hyper carry.
>>557445459i thought she did, and the support lizes I see use fouette but I've also seen people say it's bad. It seems ok to me, she hits for 40% per hit so adding 20% more with E3 fouette seems good even though that 20% won't get scaled by base dmg or damage amplification. even with 150% damage amp it's still a 20% dps increase just on that part of the passive. sunfall is definitely the best tho no question.
>>557451928ok, I don't have any of the currency thats use to draw on xu but I'll saved up any for her or the new character you mention.
>>557394749>>557394975Thanks.
So tentacle damage is assigned to the player huh? I know this is a Normal run, but damn guess I really really need to get Fauxborn. That's unfortunate. I feel like she also dealt the most damage to me, more than the enemies even thanks to sacrifice.Hopefully there's a G.Tulu coming up so I can replace Goliath, because I feel he's literally only here for his strength passive. I never felt like any of his cards were useful EVER. Miryam meanwhile always felt good, almost every card felt good thanks to having 3+ Rituals
>>557468121Sacrifice damage is assigned to the player too. Basically all things that don't directly come from a card or exalt I think.
>>557468646I would've assumed the Damage Dealt stat wouldn't include self-damage
>>557468708I meant on the enemy. I'm not sure about self damage.
How long did it take for you guys to get your first level 80? other than OE
>>557470187I'll let you know when it happens
>>5574701876 months but i was hoarding for no reason
I still feel like the tentacles are the hardest to play.
>>557468121pretty sure you replace tulu if gtulu has a Lemurian passivetulus exalt is no more than like 100 temp strength and tentacle damage and like 20% crit rategoliath usurp is upwards of 500 temp strength on a bad day
Is there a reason Golden Dimensional Image: Rykers, forced 6 doesn't seem to apply to Shining Octahedron Dice? I seem to roll 4's pretty often despite the relic showing it's unused.
>>557480617Depends more on how their passives synergize with gtulu than their exalt in my opinion. Getting +500-1000 STR is cool and all, but tulu has a better passive in a vacuum. Either way both are mostly just there.
Clem does a surprising amount of damage in this mode with her E2
>>557480617Personally I just love using Tulu's OE and see the tentacle slapping.
i want to refund my gmurphy, i hate playing aequor
>>557485298I wonder if at any point in time the game will force us to play certain Realms.
>hydra>followed by veilcursed run
>>557486252it already does if you want to complete all the missions in most events.
>>557483242probably the dice doesn't count as a Ryker card or somethingit doesn't really matter though, you'd typically want the guaranteed 6 to be for Ryker's exalt or 2 cost anyway
>>557489715My hand was always too full, so using it on his Exalt felt kinda wasted and I wanted the extra STR but I'm guessing that was more a quirk of it being a railway run
>>557490053I use it on the 2 cost 90% of the time. Deals a surprising amount of damage and the extra free search+discount is just too good.
>>557266840So what's the gimmick for Horla and Wanda?I assume Wanda is a Counter focused Tank, kinda like a Purple Caecus assuming the effects on her wheel are reflective of anything. Horla meanwhile seems like a really complicated Stance character which is very concerning.
>>557491495Horla's gimmick is stances yes, but you mostly just sit in the one that gives extra aliemus and retain, maybe swapping to the damage bonus stance on burst turns. You don't actually play her cards that much. She is a generically good, fairly simple character.
>>557491668Seems a bit weird that I'd want to put a character in my team to then not use them at all
>>557492489Resources are limited, the less cards you have to play of characters that aren't your big dick damage the more cards you can play of your big dick damage. Passive support is very strong.
>>557491668Not the same guy but she was able to stack counter in one of the modes. She can't do it in normal play and I don't get why.
>>557492821Probably a relic, maybe an orison or chapter gimmick.
Xu is my first banner, will there be a new chara after this one is over (7 days) or do they usually do reruns in-between
>>557497341usually there are two types of banners running at the same time. right now Xu is running with one in a million, when Xu leaves the triple horla/pickman/24 banner will start, and when one in a million ends in three weeks the new aequor will release.the schedule isn't completely consistent but it's at a minimum 4 weeks between new character releases, this time it'll be 6 weeks between xu and nuquor.
>>557497968So more or less it is 12 Awakeners in a year.
>>557499328it was nine awakeners last year I think, I'd probably expect it to be ten or so this year.
>>557196085ok i'm an idiot. poof triggering discard is due to casiah's soulforge talent and only works once per turn. which makes sense because poof is 0 with leap and would do some silly stuff otherwise.
>>557501425Hmmm then the 3 male ones make sense.
>>557501515don't worry, I didn't know poof's discard was once per turn either
gg, Helot, that was a close one.
>>557491495Wanda's main thing is that 10 dreamlure ult provides effective 20% damage reduction and doubles your opponents attack count (for double the counter procs), multiplicative with caecus's 3 cost (though you'd never really play them together)her core team is daff and 24, and the gameplan is to stack up dreamlure during the expedition while stacking daff kills for 100% crit chance on daffyou prep ultra zone based on when the boss uses their multihit (ideal is 3 or 4/5 of them to be daff's 2 cost) and go into the boss fight with full aliemus on everyoneultra turn the same turn the boss uses their multihit, ult everyone, and stack a ton of temporary counter from daff's 2 cost and make the boss kill themselves
>>557492489You can stance dance Horla with her rouse for more effect. Having her E2 or retain make her much better at it, you can keep her cards to change stance when needed.
>>557491495horla is second best support in game. she gives you permanent ice cream and runic pyramid in joy stance and has weak+vuln on her strike and defend at E1. you can also ignore joy stance and get 30% more final damage completely passively instead, or just go into anger stance on the turn you go in to kill stuff. absolutely illegal unit. every newcutie must pull when she runs in a week.
Damn, just found out Horla's effects scale with her DR, so it's best to put DR covenant on her
>>557514263it is, they double with 200% DR (though worth mentioning that BGS' 6-set bonus doesn't count). you can life drain her though if you need to, it's a bit of a waste but sometimes it suits the comp.
>>557514263the battlepass (?) dr wheel is great even if you don't life drain her because it's a lot of passive keyflare
>>557518797that's a shop only wheel but Dawn and Dusk is amazing, best shop only wheel by a lot. dawn and dusk + mouchette's SR flashlight is really good combo on her, you only really need to think about last verse on her if D&D is +12 (but my kath uses last verse in d-tide anyways).
I got to level 40 on the premium battlepass for the first time, which of the three wheels is recommended to grab first?
>>557521678they're all good desuspring in yakutsk is the most general one cause keyflare=goodbut birth of a soul is also very nice and sunfall is bis on a few charsso imo just go with whatever you need the most desu
I borrowed a whale pollux but madness is still hopeless, I can beat first boss but die to stuff after that. Is there any trick? do I need to put damage amplification on everyone?
>>557528065maybe watch replays cause pre-setup will help but it can only get you so far at that lvl
>>557523168Thanks. I ended up going with sunfall cause it turned out I have a few characters it's BiS on and they could use the boost. I'll definitely go for the others too once I get the opportunity though.
>Decide to try out a maxed support Hamelyn to fill out my 3Chaos HSR team.Holy FUCK. what have I been doing with my life? Have I seriously been rolling on DPS units when supports are this busted? This shit feels like it should be illegal.
>>557530010there are no replays!!
>>557531892hameln is the dude. i'd probably run him in every team if i could. the best part is that if you get him E2 he won't feel substantially different from the whale one you borrowed he's just like that.
>>557531892general rule of gacha is to always invest on supports unless you really like the carry bc they will always be the most flexible, and new carries can always come around and replace eachother
>>557533986is he just as good as Thais?
>>557536364he's close but Thais does more of everything in general, she's kinda in her own league
>>557536364Thais is overtuned, she's not a fair comparison.
>>557537960>>557537081Actually is there a similar, or good in general, support for the blue Realm?
>>557538547myriam is amazing but she's shackled to gmurphy
>>557538547Miryan and Murphy (both g and normal ver) are somewhat splashable but Aequor in general is the worst realm to splash, because tentacle sucks without the entire team dedicated to it.
Speaking of Aequor when the blue one in a million selector comes around should I go for Corposant (don't have her or her wheel) or GMurphy? (have her and her wheel at E0)
>>557539128Corpo's wheel isn't too important so she's not a great pick for that banner in particular.
>>557539503Mmm, guess I'll build up my GMurphy then, thanks anon.
Moriubump!
>>557539128corposants best wheel is horlas
>>557538547probably gmurphy, the only character that adds strength (tentacle damage), card draw and arithmeticacan't double cast like hameln or dupe cards like thais can though, but sacrifice is "similar"
>>557547447plus she gets all that keyflare while doing it.
>>557547447I thought she is a carry the same way Karth is.
Is there a maintenance in 40 minutes?
>>557553283yes in 7 min now, they always come at the most inconvenient time.
How is this fair when the game doesn't even allow me to change my Awakeners?
>>557557928You can change your Awakeners but you have to plan your lineup before queuing.If you're new to the game and don't have many awakeners unlocked yet I'd suggest playing the draftmode. It's how I learned Traphase and it's a lot more fun than just trying to abuse the same combo over and over.
>>557558802Whatever bug is responsible for this mode deserves to be fired, blacklisted and thrown into the jungles of africa. Absolute retard.
>>557553283>>557556673there's no maintenance...
WHAT A SHITTY FUCKING MODE GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I FUCKING HATE DOGSHIT BUGS
>>557559949traphase is a completely optional mode, you only get weekly rewards from either p-dive or traphase not both. i don't touch it.
so I just started the other day and I have no idea what I'm suppose to be working towards.I chose Agrippa as my free reroll awakener because shes pure sex then I use a bunch of the free summons I got from the codes to build a team for her, this is what I ended up with, since no one else in caro uses poison or shields I just roll for chaos since I can match 2 "elements".from what I understand is that its better to go mono or mix with chaos, I didn't see any advantage of mixing 2 elements with none-chaos but I have no idea if thats true.I just been doing the main story but it seems too easy, like its just a bunch of micro dungeons where all the progress reset at the end so I don't know if my team is good or its just suppose to be like that, I'm at 2-10 and its been fairly easy, I know there will be more game modes that would be longer/challenging but I don't know what teams to build or what to save and what to use, I got a bunch of the normal summoner cores left since I only use like 50 or so to get this this team.my question is: what should I built towards? should I use the cores to get more awakeners to build more teams? should I try to get multiple copies of the same one to unlock better enlighten? or should I roll on the WoD banner instead? if so which one should I pick?I have so many questions but I have no idea what to expect.
>>557565123roll for Xu if you like Agrippa/poison, she's by far her best partner and doesn't need any dupes to function well, you can replace Alva for her and you have a decent team>I didn't see any advantage of mixing 2 elements with none-chaos but I have no idea if thats trueyou get to use both realm skills but they're weakened while mixing with chaos lets you use the realm skill at 100%>my question is: what should I built towards? should I use the cores to get more awakeners to build more teams? should I try to get multiple copies of the same one to unlock better enlighten? or should I roll on the WoD banner instead? if so which one should I pick?People have different opinions on this but I'd say to roll more awakeners from a realm you like. Character dupes are more impactful than wheel dupes early on and you have a chance of rolling limited awakenersAs for which realm, chaos and aequor generally have the strongest early game awakeners but if you like caro or ultra feel free to roll them instead
moriniggt
>>557565123ch 1-4 are the tutorial there is a significant difficulty increase ch 5 onwards, ch 7 is a big spikeif you are a slay the spire player caro/aequor looks like free sex because free shields or passive damage and healing
>>557565123My advice as a recent joiner who is now 60 days in is to pick up a limited rarity Awakener ASAP to carry you through the story - this is usually a damaging carry and every faction has at least 1 viable option (GMurphy, Kathugi Ra, Castor/Pollux and Ghelot all work, though IMO Caro has the toughest time as they really need their star supports to shine). You can do this with the one in a million draft or alternatively wait for the next limited release banner if you want to gamble that they'll be strong/meta.You're correct that you eventually want 4-5 fully fleshed out teams in order to progress through D-Tide but the simple face is you literally don't have the XP and materials yet to worry about that. Build one decent comp first and just focus on enjoying/progressing the story. The google sheet in the OP has a good guide to meta comps that is worth keeping in mind long-term.
survey is out
>>557566807Morinight
>>557567721this time Light will surely read my survey and buff Wanda
I forgot to ask for more skins for fuck sake.
>>557566675>>557567190>>557567438ok thank you, I'll keep all this in mind, also while rolling on the standard banner I got this? I can get limited character on the standard banner as well? shes poison too so she works perfectly with Agrippa.
>>557572410Yep, older limiteds get folded into the standard banner pool eventually. The rates are lower so you can't really aim for them specifically but it's a nice surprise when it happens. Congrats. And yeah, Lily works well with Agrippa and Xu.
>>557572410yes you can get older limiteds on the standard bannerLily is very cute and good in poison
>>557572410You have a small, like 0.1something% chance to get some limited from the standard banner. Don't rely on it but it is really nice when it hapens.Lily, Xu, Agrippa, whatever is a nice team if you like poison. Having grabbed agrippa originally and getting a lily spook I would definitely say try to get at least one copy of Xu from her banner while it is active.
>>557572410Lily love
>>557573180yeah it feels like the game really wanted me to go poison, and just as well I loved poison in StS, I'll save up and pull for xu before her banner is up and make a Agrippa, Lily, Karen, and Xu team as my main story team.
>>557578903If you have spare pulls and get lucky with Xu, in a week the one in a million banner will change to Caro, where you can pull for Thais and her wheel try to get a copy of both, if you can go E2 on her that would be even better, she can create 2 copies of a card in your hand (at e2 reduces that cost by 2), and give a lot of babies with her rouse, the best and hottest support in the game.
It's dtide day.... AGAIN!Tawil boss in Wave 5 is supremely annoying
>>557588634barely made it through a4 with a borrowed smoochie and 3 random shitters and only because I timed my swimsuit episode posse well
>>557470187I started in august/september and I think I made my clem lv80 in early december, when I'd accumulated enough purples to do it in one go. she was my first lv70 too, that happened in late october I think. if you do 350 then you get 15 purple fragments and you need 125 total purple fragments (plus 10 pyramids for 60->80), which is 8 or 9 dtide seasons. you get 25 if you do 400. I might have gotten a purple gnosis from somewhere else but I don't remember>>557578903you'll have an excess of arithmetica in that team probably, and karen's application is weakanother standard you could enjoy who would fit in that team would be nymphaeathough don't let me tell you what to do, if you want to mawatte mawatte then karen is cute, I use her all the time (usually with kath) and she was my own first roll choice
the new banner is a scam. I've decided for myself.
>>557592602It's good if you want both the character and the wheel. If you just want one or the other then yeah, don't roll on it.
is the train a permanent mode?
Oh fuck yes. I forgot all about this. Really raking in the freebies this month, boys.
>>557596217for now yes but Light said its a "rough prototype" of what they want the permanent mode to be so they will change italso the event is temporary so those rewards have like 20 days left
>Fran on W4 Feeling generous today, huh. It took 19 fucking turns. Jesus CHRIST. I HATE FORTRESS
i think i'll settle with a4 from now on...
>>557592596>if you want to mawatte mawattethat is exactly what I want to do, I have both Nympaea and karen but I'll rather use Karen even if shes suboptimal just for the cute factor.
Random Arc1 awakener in your inbox from Xu!
>>557603075>rykerNeat. I can use that.
>>557603075>24nooooooooooooo
>>557597729is there any mechanic that circumvents fortress? or is it the same as more hp?
>>557603075>daffodil E3useless but at least her stars are nice and filled in
>>557606416The only thing that bypass Fortress is Castor's corrosion proc. And innate embers from the boss themselves.
>>557606416IIRC, shit like mouchette's racism buff is in the same frame.
>>557606827factoring in the fortress + extra death resistance health fran has 6 million hp. wtf is this boss.
>>557607816it's called powercreep
>>557603075>Sorel +3I'm actually kind of tempted to use a monthly dupe for her OE, but she's spooked me so many times already that I bet she'll do it again.
i didn't recognize a lot of these enemies like all the arctic dudes in wave 2 and the wave 3 boss. are they all from old special ops?
>>557608221ghelot's event
>>557599710if you really love karen she can be your carryhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Morimens/comments/1qtrtba/karen_xu_ogier_hameln_w4a5_with_fran/
>>557607816Fran is a stall check. Most stall comps can handle him (Kath/Xu/Castor). I haven't seen a Salvador comp, but I think he can work too, or even a discard comp with normal Murphy.Or even this>>557609947
>>557603075My wife's so generous
morinap
>>557603075I got Lily. It's kind of funny since I'm going through her chapter now.
Any corpos enjoyers know how good/necessary her enlightens are?
>>557617129they're good, because they're weakvuln and all weakvuln is good. but you'll want to figure out what team you'll actually play her in. discard freakin sucks!!! (its fun tho)
>>557619684i see thanks, i wanna pull for her but i dont see anyone playing her with her WoD so idk about this banner
>>557622026yeah no one likes her wod, they use horla's wod instead, I think the only unit worth pulling on this banner is GMurphy because you don't need copies of miriam's wod or murphy's wod. you could go for tulu theoretically but not worth doing without gmurphy ofc.
>>557603075I got ryker e2, not the best, but it is progress towards e3 which is good afaik. would have preferred...I dunno, 24 is the only awakener in the game that I want that I don't have, so getting one of her would have saved me some pulls, or tulu e1 would have been a nice though inconsequential upgrade>>557617129she's playable as a shielder at e0 but her defensive and scaling abilities go up with e2 and she becomes a generalist support/subdps with some offensive capabilities at e3, at least for dtide. she's great for story mode in arc2 in every chapter though and can carry you there, plays well with every chapter gimmick and has a favorable racism talent for arc2 chapters 3 and 4. OE is nice but luxury for tentacle teams
>>557617129She sucks. Corpo is there to win more in story mode.
>>557627657tulu e1 is actually really good, one of the better e1s. imo it's a lot better than miriam e2 in lemurians, abyss order ends up being a really important card.
>>557624251Funnily enough, Corpo wheel is my go to wheel for Horla for the team buff.
Speaking of Corpo. I don't play her normally but I wanted to try her in HSR.Is it just me or are there no good relics for discard teams? Or how do you play them?
>>557634895anything that lets you scale tentacle damage and strength faster is a "discard relic"actually discard comps should be pretty decent for that game mode in theory because you'll have an easier time cycling through your gigantic deck compared to other comps
>>557634895well there's this relic:>>557173953otherwise it's a tentacle damage team, so any relics that help with tentacles will be useful. you're right there isn't explicit support for discard the way there's support for poison and counter.
>>557631640yeah I'd like to have it, I probably should have gotten it when tulu was on triple rerun, but it's not make or break>>557634895the discard team is a strength and tentacle scaling multihit comp, so stuff like filigree agate or the music box or the fiddle are all really good. aurita and your tentacles hit maybe hundreds of times on burst turns
>>557603075E3 Dafo, can't believe I got her e3 without ever rolling for her
>>557603075Myriam dupe, she's E3 now
>>557640036I got my to E1. Can't really complain since it's for free.
>>557603075i got salvador E2is he dps now or does he need E3?
>>557633295wtf does this part mean? does it trigger your DR and you lose half?
>>557642038If you trigger DR you heal some HP once.
guess who got a Wanda out of all the possible characters haha
>>557648197She can't be that bad, come on..
>>557649889she's not "bad" but I have nowhere to use her, especially at E0
>>557640946he can be a dps at any investment, the enlightens just make your clears faster
I GOT A SECOND TULU >:C
>>557648197Me>>557650783Gratz
>>557650783oh no not the best enlighten of a decent character... anything but that
With my roster, would it be a better idea to get Murphy fauxborn or to wait for Thais?Also, any team suggestions?
>>557652032wait for Thaiscurrently you can do Xu/Agrippa/Lily and whoever you like maybe Tawil or Aigis or Nymph
How long until the next patch preview?
>>557656091maybe 3 weeks
>>557603075>LilyAlready had her at E3 so +1 is meh, but she is my daughterfu so can stay.
Looks like I might be able to do some A4 dtides this time around
>>557603075I got murphy, Idk if shes good or bad but shes the only only aequor I have aside from aurita.
>>557659231she's very nice to have
>>557660047after reading her skills shes like a tank/support right? she gives dmg reduction and the sacrifice mechanic seems to be some sort of delay dmg that can be cleanse.seems like I can use her in basically every aequor team.
>>557660684yeah basically, she's frequently played with Murphy: Fauxborn (aka GMurphy), a character you'll eventually want to get who also applies sacrifice in return for other effects
>>557661162I think I'm autistic or something because the idea of having 2 of the same character in 1 party bothers me even if they are different units.I'll still do it but...
>>557603075Thanks Xu, my Salvador is now E1.I would've preferred getting Wanda but I'll try not to look a gift horse in the mouth
its a damn shame the train doesn't count as an event..Also are there 6 different stages to it or what?
>>557669975It does count, but you have to actually finish the stage for it to count for your daily.
>>557670659I guess it is way too long in this case. I defeated the first boss, so I guess 1-6 and then wiped on 2-1.
morinight, don't let N win
how should I spend my silver? just use it on getting limited banner pulls?
>>557654737Thanks.Aren't multiple teams needed in some game modes? I was kind of hoping for tips on that.
>>557676891Yeah, silver should only be spent on limited banners. You get plenty of standard pulls so you never actually use silver on them.>>557678909Eventually you will want 5 teams for d tide(technically you can go up to 10, but most people aren't gonna do that and the returns are pretty mediocre.) One of those 5 can be carried by boring a whale's character though, so it's really more like 4 teams + 3 characters that are being drug to victory by a whale.
>>557678909Just to offer an alternative opinion. you have Miryam and Murphy already, which means you have two limited Lemuria awakeners that go into a Gmurphy team. Given that stroke of luck, I would pick up GMurphy personally. You're kind of wasting their pulls until you get Gmurphy. Also, getting GMurphy via One in a Million is not a terrible idea since her wheel is Hand Limit +2 (just like Thais'), it's still expensive though.That said, I will say that Gmurphy gets really strong with dupes. But pulling dupes on one in a million can get crazy expensive. So if you do pull her then you should likely plan to commit your next few months of Prototype Horizons to pushing her to E3.
>>556927147Why is the google sheet in the OP locked?
>>557679253>You get plenty of standard pulls so you never actually use silver on them.yeah I figure but I didn't know if there were other uses for silver other than pulls.
>>557634895Any draw relics is good for them, and the generic tentacles related ones too.
>>557660684yeah her job is to press the exalt button if the boss is doing big damage that turn, and then work on bleeding off the sacrifice on following turnsshe's not played much with gmurphy in arc 2 (which is what dtide is) because she doesn't have the Lemurian passiveshe's pretty solid in the corporita discard and redraw comp because or tentacle damage scaling on her 0 coat aftershock
>>557679253>Eventually you will want 5 teams for d tideThanks.>>557680462I did a few rolls since I have a lot saved up and ended up with two copies of her wheel. Assuming I don't end up getting her, can her wheel be used on anyone else?
Speaking of murphy, I just snagged her from the blue banner. Go me. That was the last blue awaker I was missing. Between that and the Ryker Xu gave me now only my caro and ultra rosters are incomplete.
>>557683494Most teams will benefit from +2 hand size. Also, in case you didn't know, you're guaranteed to pull her after seeing 2 wheels in a row (assuming you hit the 33% chance to get your targeted choice and not a random Lemurian)
>>557683494Ideally you have a plus handsize wheel in every team. You can't quite do that yet without borrowing a character but it's always useful just off that effect alone. Some handsize wheels will fit some teams better than others(aside from thais' wheel, which you would run in every team if you could) but the wheels could have no other effect and still be good.
is there a tutorial somewhere for aequor? I have no idea how aequor works, caro, chaos and ultra were self explanatory after playing them once but I'm still confuse about the tentacles after playing them, I get that I can switch stances but I don't know how I gain them or when they attack or how the damage works and when I lose tentacles, sometimes I have 3 some times I got like 7 and then they are gone.
>>557684819The baseline effects aren't too bad. The default stance spawns one new tentacle at turn end. The shield stance shields and doesn't grow your tentacles. The red stance attacks whenever you attack (and loses one tentacle at turn end).The thing you need to watch out for is that lots of skills/relics/exalts/rouses interact with tentacles, either by summoning additional tentacles or, sometimes, by summoning a "temporary" tentacle which only lasts one turn. If you suddenly find yourself with 10 tentacles it's usually because of some combination of those effects.Also GMurphy changes the stance behavior a bit but the changes are described well enough (iirc the info is under the first skill in her enlighten menu). The short version is that she makes everything a bit stronger but with the downside that the Shield/Aggro stances both have 3 turn cooldowns.
>>557684020>assuming you hit the 33% chance to get your targeted choice and not a random LemurianAssuming the worst case scenario, would that be 60 rolls to get GMurphy?>>557684334Ok, thanks.
>>557684819You have three stances. >blue stanceThis your default stance. When in blue stance you get +1 tentacle at end of turn.>white stanceYou deal half damage with your tentacles but get shield when you activate it. Also any tentacle attacks will give a small amount of shield. You do not gain +1 tentacle at end of turn if you are in white stance.>red stanceYou deal extra tentacle damage but 1 tentacle will be consumed at the end of turn, obviously you don't gain one. Exalts will give you 1 extra tentacle attack per exalt for the turn. Most blue rouses will give you +1 additional tentacle permanently. Tentacle crit rate and crit damage is 50% of the sum of all your awaker's crit stats. Tentacle base damage scales on max HP and can be further increased either by getting STR buffs or by getting tentacle damage buffs.Gmurphy changes how stances work. Basically all the effects have bigger numbers in exchange for white and red stances having 3 turn cooldowns, also white stance no longer attacks at all and only gives shield. You also lose the extra temporary tentacles on exalt in exchange for more shields when lemurian awakers use their's.
>>557685452oh ok I think I get it now, I try pulling for GMurphy and I didn't get her but I got her WoD which also seems to change the 2 stances.
>>557685908It adds additional effects when you swap stances, it works regardless of if it's normal tentacles or her divine tentacles.
>>557685843Oh yeah, also there is no hard tentacle cap. When you reach the soft cap(when all the symbols are full) you will need to gain 3 tentacles to increase the cap. This doesn't come up too much outside of gmurphy who makes tons of tentacles with her cards but it's there.
>>557685761180 (30 per pity)spookweaponspookweaponspookcharacter
>>557685843>>557686037>>557686420alright, I made a team with aurita, murphy, farros and ramona that focuses on auritas gland division. haven't try it yet but its the only aequor team I could theory craft with what I have.
>>557684819white to shield, red for damage (especially good for multihits)if a skill or exalt procs tentacle slaps, going into white before using that skill will get you a small bit of extra shield but the slap will do less damagered loses you a tentacle, blue adds a tentacle, white does nothingtentacle stats (crit and damage) are based off team averages so crit on your blue team supports isn't wasted>>557683494it is very good on gmurphy teams on your tulu or other support because gmurphy uses offensive keyflare wheels (tawil, hameln, even ramona) better than her own
>>557688490faros aurita is a solid team until you get corposantif you have casiah I'd recommend her over ramona
all of my tentacle teams are stuck in a4...
moriBump
>>557680462Murphy isn't a Lemurian, but she still pairs well with GMurphy
>>557651206>>557650996I am not following isn't he supposed to just stand there?
>>557652032GMurphy is game-changing to tentacle team as much as Thais is to Caro team. If you roll her, put more rolls in standard blue banner to get more Caecus and Goliath dupes.
>>557695849His 4 cost card hits like a truck
Oh huh. Free GHelot in the inbox. Unexpected but not remotely unwelcome.
>>557696778IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
>>557689859aequor week soon...
>>557689072I don't have casiah but I need to pull on the ultra banner soon so I might get her, look at her skills it looks like she would work better, how does mixing tentacles and ultra work? do I get both powers?
>>557699997yesh
>>557699997you get both powers but you lose one starting tentacle and your damage is nerfed during the ultra turn, that's about it
>>557696061I don't think you ever play caecus with gmurphy, even in arc 1, especially if you own vanilla murphy miriam already.
>>557702939My mistake, I thought he was Lemurian
>>557689859if you're actually beating alert4 with aurita that's something you can be proud of.
one GMurphy off of the free rolls lets fucking gooooGMurphy E3 overpowered
>>557703313Lemurian synergy doesn't work in arc 1 so it wouldn't have mattered anyway. If anything, arc 1 is where you "could" realistically play them together, contrary to what the other anon said.
>>557703485i think ive seen a few a5 clears with corpo/auritais she that bad?
>>557703969I out in the survey that gmurphy and tawil are way too strong and they kill comp variety, I'm responsible for nerfs if they come they wont
Can you even leave the train or does it terminate your run?
>>557705110Yes you can save and exit at any point, except mid-fight where p sure you'd have to restart that fight
>>557704943tawil has low team variety because she ISN'T strong and needs hameln ryker. mouchette and kath are strong so they are played with fluid teams.
>>557705387I see it as the other way around. Tawil doesn't really have any recent supports that suit her. Ryker is dated. Hameln is massively overrated, and she is one of the few characters that gets very little out of Thais due to red Tawil kind of being ass. Same issue with purple Tawil. Meanwhile Gmurphy eats up miryam if you wanted to go blue leaving you with just caecus.
>>557706714I really want to get Tawil. I guess she is a carry but she also needs a second one to properly work, right?
>>557706905She is mostly used as a solo carry. That said, I think having a castor/pollux style teammate(IE a duo carry team where each completes the other) for her would do wonders for her current situation. I really wish she would get something like that but alas.
>>557706714>Hameln is massively overratedlol how? you don't like free arithmetica or playing your cards twice?
>>557707303>3 cost that does literally nothing beyond be sell fodder>other 3 cost that is nice because you can play it for free, but only has the immediate benefit of a small amount of STR if you do>exalt cannot be used on wings or exalt generated cards, only really useful on pinions or rondo>needs rouse to get the cost reduction card/double play card, doesn't actually give you the card until next turnCompared to a lot of other supports he is honestly kind of lacking. Not bad per say, but definitely closer to low A/high B than a lot of lists put him. I'd like if his rouse at least gave you the card right away like how thais gives you super baby.
>>557707197I remember people saying she is able to copy cards.
>>557707652>Compared to a lot of other supportswho? thais, and uh maybe horla?
>>557707652Sorry but this post just screams lack of card game xp imo, you're calling a retain prepare card useless, in reality that's a +1 to deck consistencyHis other str card is good even at full priceAnd his rouse is top tier because you get it every turn after for free, while Thais' needs posse to trigger, getting one instant would be way too op compared to other unitsThere's nothing lacking about his kit imo but a lot of his power is less obvious or straight forward than other supports
>>557708054Her exalt gives you a choice out of a few cards belonging to other awakers of whatever realm you are playing and lets you add them to your had. You don't have to have them in your party or even own them, Tawil materializes them out of thin air. Not so much copying cards as it is stealing them for her own use.>>557708061Gmurphy played as a support for one(not that you would because she is a carry unto herself, but still). Her 0 cost is just a straight better version of his best card and sacrifice conversion is a significantly stronger gimmick than card duplication that cannot dupe the main cards you'd want to actually use it on.>>557708143Card advantage is all well and good, but you gotta consider the whole picture. Upstart goblin is ass if you can play pot of greed for instance. Compare generating 2 insights(usually into the deck) to something like castor's plumes or gmurphy's draw 2. Hell, I'd even say just being able to straight tutor and discount a card with ryker is better overall. Similarly double playing stuff sounds great until you actually look at the cards he can copy. Not being able to use his exalt on your best cards is a massive negative. Also, in respect to thais needing posse, that's a non issue since you should be able to posse nearly every turn.
>>557708143also - he does all of this while being built full keyflare so no one else on team has to go life drain, and memory rondo will give 400 keyflare on raw play. keyflare as a concept is a large part of what makes him especially good (similar to clementine).
>>557708515I think its a bit unfair to compare him to cards outside his color, since you realistically would never play gmurphy outside lemurians for exampleMy point is that he's S tier when it comes to chaos supports, its true that rykers tutor got better now with HSR's larger decksize but even then i cant consider him better than hameln overall
>>557708515oh hameln is overrated compared to gmurphy? maybe people should start paying attention to her.
>>557704850yes. watch them some time. it's usually a level 85+ account with +12 aurita +12 casiah with portrait relic and they still have to proc a 35% death resistance ten turns into the fight to clear wave 1. it's a fun team i hope the new aequor is for discard but alert5 aurita discard is a true struggle for the most eager enthusiasts only.
>>557709875honestly i dont even really like aurita, i just wanna make corpo work and was considering investing on her
>>557699997one thing to note is that casiah's poof only triggers aftershock once per turn and only in arc2 rules (and also only if you've leveled her soulforge at least once)>>557704850for the hardest stuff in the game she falls short, outside of blue ring seasons. she needs her portrait to scale hard enough for a5, and yeah even then she still needs heavy investment or premium wheelsshe's a lot of fun though and her+corpo was my main team for a lot of my nm story. I don't think she's really 'bad' in the sense that she's not worth her slot, but she, as a welfare unit, can't keep up with the game's premium carries. limited units have higher stats and if you play her for a while you'll notice that her gimmick both takes too long to get rolling and makes itself less consistent (the bigger your deck the slower it cycles, which means you draw your 2cost less which means you cycle even slower). as I progressed in story I noticed that I was leaning on corpo over her more and more. I am also in the aurita hopium club
>>557715393>her gimmickTo be fair entire aftershock gimmick just takes too long. You need to discard shitload of Pilots while balancing defense. Meanwhile Castor's plumes is both team shield and burst... Well not every team comp can be equal. But more survivability wouldn't hurt. Just saying.
>>557716203maybe the next awakener will help her
what skill level does Pilot scale with (if any)? I'm seeing level 72 corposants in p-dive piloting for 55 shield while level 62 is only 39 shield with more DR on my corpo, and the level gap alone shouldn't cause a difference that big.
>>557718281ok nm I guess it doesn't scale with anything, I forgot p-dive gave corposant +50% to everything this week.
>>557710560if you want to play a corposant team GMurphy tulu murphy corposant is better, it has no real place in the d-tide meta because lemurians is stronger but it's fun.
>>557718819>>557718281Shield generally scales with Def, don't see why it would be different here
Is top row a decent team? Another team suggestions? Additional teams? Chapter 2 now.Thanks!Tawil wheel E0GMurphy wheel E0
i made an account a year ago but only played a few hours, if i want to give the game another try should I make a new account or use my old one? will I miss on anything important?
>>557726328I mean it shouldn't matter because it's going to be a new account either way right?>>557726292If you're act 2 then you can try GMurphy/Tulu/Goliath/Faros for the full Lemurian synergy and level all of their soulforges to at least level 1.
>>557726328not sure if new accounts will get the 100 standard pulls that should be in your inbox right now. I dont think there are any sign up bonuses right now or anything, old account probably better.
>>557727609>>557726292>If you're act 2just saw your level and realized you said chapter 2 not act 2, sorryyeah your team is fine but I would still replace Ramona for Tulu
Is there an easy team for this shit? Hard mode is absolutely raping my ass
>>557727879you're still missing upgrades, but the easy team will be a level 90 support pollux, castor, horla, and then whichever keyflare you like for the fourth (clem, hameln, thais, ryker, whichever you prefer).
>>557727879have you farmed all of the normal team combinations?otherwise the "easy team" is to borrow a whale support, be it Pollux or someone else
Does base damage increase tentacle damage?
>>557727879i struggled with my teams a bit before upgrades but i borrowed a 90 pollux and it was literally a fucking joke
>>556927147spreadsheet is kill
4Lemurians was a mistake. Its overpowered, its way too easy to play, it prevents you from using OP GMurphy in interesting ways, it kills the blue poison because miriam gone. nerf now.
>>557731517>its way too easy to playNo.
I can't beat the mother treeMy team is corposant, murphy, tulu, and miryam all level 50how do I beat this mf? I can't stack enough shield to keep up with 100x3 hits what do I do?
>>557731756looks like you're lacking a proper dpsin terms of resisting tho murphy is pretty cracked with her exalt and should get you through any danger turn, especially if your strat is to stack poison and feed ali to her with myriam it should be doable
>>557731517now borrow an E0 GMurphy instead of your whaled out OE one and try playing Lemurians again
>>557731756Tulu's 4 cost should be able to clear the aoe phases. I'm assuming you're already picking it as your retain/prepare. Also his 3 cost in white stance has strength down which can be helpful.Now that I think about it, Corpo is a terrible pick for that boss because you don't want to ever discard your hand.
>>557732685my GMurphy is E3 like my other units but I dont understand what kind of argument this is, Lemurians is even stronger if you compare E0 teams to E0 teams.
>>557731723i'd agree because it is true that that comp's ceiling is really high, but the problem is that its floor of "get gmurphy to OE, red stance and click the gmurphy cards until boss dies" is good enough for 100% of the current content
not sure if this one can make it, don't let me down.
moribrap
>>557733454Instead of Mouchette "play strikes" or Kath "play defenses"?
>>557733940you missed my point, neither of those comps dumbed down to their extreme are as strong as lemurians and you know it
>>557733454out of curiosity whats the ceiling you're referring to? you always rouse miriam asap, you waltz whenever possible (your posse tutors it!), you exalt 1x per turn, you dont play goliath or tulu cards unless you have a good reason to law of the strong/abyss order, you only play chosen one and maybe the str down one in very niche situations. The only "play" in the deck as far as I can tell is abyss hymn sacrifice stacks. if theres stuff I should be thinking harder about I'd be interested to know.
>>557734190I would say dumped down Mouchette comp is a lot stronger than Lemurians because you're doing the same thing every turns. In Lemurian there's bust turns, defense turns, preparation turns etc.
>>557733454That's why I keep putting this game behind Slay the spire. Each run is just the same, there's only 16 cards to play, artifacts, orison choice doesn't make interesting synergy. HSR is getting somewhere but still lacks deck building
>>557734356see the problem is that doing the cookie cutter play like that is enough for all content because the numbers are so high, you never need to min-max and sort draw pile to maximize burst turns or other concepts you need for a20 clears on sts for example, you can even mostly ignore sacrifice which should be the balancing lever since you get a billion shieldpeople have shared replays here in the past and the difference in burst of similarly built teams is actually massive>>557734685she's very individually strong i wont argue that but at least she has comp variety, and all things considered i personally don't see her raw numbers (combining offense and defense) being comparable to lemurianstho i gotta agree with you in her being easier to play at a very base level>>557734759yeah i also have hopes for deeper gameplay from HSR with a lot more variance (tho gacha players tend to complain a lot more if they can't clear content so we'll see)
>>557735696mouchette has a lot of sequencing decisions, you need to play your strikes in the right order to optimize her very impactful rouse passive and keep track of what you want to mortal blast. I'm not saying its massive skill cap nor do I necessarily want it to be, but imo its quite easy to screw yourself with when you spew cards, especially because not dying in hallways is a major hurdle for her. Thats the kind of play that the game is generally very good at providing and its why I like giving them money.
maybe i don't get how to play aequor but my own e3 gmurphy can't consistently do a5 with lemurians, and even when I borrow a whale one it doesn't really feel good to use
everyone talking about a5 meanwhile there's me still struggling with a4...
>>557738237you get cucked so hard by account level scaling and skill mat limitation in this game. there's no real way to scale shield values in-combat so theres no way to make up for shield skill level + soulforge level + gnosis pyramid deficits you'll be in for a very long time.
>>557738237you'll get there eventually, it's mostly an account investment/time issue. after a while most a4s start to feel somewhat easy
>>557739025didn't it cap at 63?
>>557740203hp scaling never ends. also take a peek at a level 95 account's relics in a replay some time.
>>557741107>>557741107>>557741107
>>557731756I switched corpo out for sorel and I got to the final hp bar but the last group of ads is just too much. I only have 4 revives so I guess I'll wait until I have five revives and try again.
