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Unihorn Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>556979362
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I think I've found the three heroes I'm decent at now that I'm getting used to the game
Graves, Paige and Viscous!
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>need a lift?
>AAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA....
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TRVKE: 4 lane map was better
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>>557005886
Street brawl should use this old map lighting
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do we have in old webms of the inhouses from the start(before it turned shit)
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why is celeste so small
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>>557005392
I always love grabbing people out of shit as well, especially out of lash ult
>>557005918
I don't quite agree. I like the way the new map looks
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APOLLO SWEEP
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>>557005918
True. The 3 lane map feels like a cramped hallway
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>>557006046
Thanl fuck im not the only one who noticed

Shes so damn short
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Rem the cutest
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>>557005990
the gameplay wasn't very invigorating so I didn't clip anything. every match was pretty much a stomp and then people would cry about tryharding itt
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Graves got deleted from the game from nerfs where the fuck are my Celeste nerfs
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still not voting aPOOlo
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How do you build celeste?
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>>557006376
i found this one from my archives
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>>557006615
how do you think?
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As cool as the movement tech is it's starting to kill the game for me
Learning map macro plus itemization plus aiming plus counterplay/cooldown memorization plus the nuances of every hero kit is already an intimidating amount of depth and more than the vast majority of multiplayer games already
I do not want to have to neurotically bounce off of walls and abuse every piece of map geometry to gain momentum and Celeste feels like pure shit if you don't already know how to do that because she's designed around it
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Were all friends here right?

What do we think of the new OW heroes? Want one of them/their playstyle in Deadlock?
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I have a feeling Apollo is going to be one of those heroes that excels in the hands of dedicated players but sucks when played by your average Joe
So everyone is going to play him on release, feed their lane 0/12 and then conclude that he's a bad hero
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>>557006785
chinese girl is more fun than any of the deadlock ones im playing her right now
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You guys commend the enemy team too, right?
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>>557006753
NTA, but why do you keep making snarky reddit non-replies for no reason. It's really weird and cringe. You can just stay quiet and not look extremely gay.
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>>557006785
i haven't even checked overwatch gameplay in like 8 years
they look like shit though so im assuming they're equally shit to play ass
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>>557006858
When they're pleasant in chat, or they play remarkably well, of course I do
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>>557006785
KYS FAGGGGGGGGGOTTTTTTTTTT
GO HOMMMMMMEEEEEEEE AND KILLLLLLLLL YOURRRRRRRRRR SELFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>557006753
you tell me.
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>>557006779
why not not play celeste then
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>>557006753
dude none of the public builds even agree with each other
half of them build her like viscous, some run fucking torment pulse
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>>557006858
/dlg/ told me people do that as an insult, now I'm neurotic about it.
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>>557006813
that's already happening with silver thoughbeit
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>solo queue
>still new
>get put against practiced combos from people with hundreds of more hours than me
>pocket holliday lane
>step down stairs away from tower
>they dive out of cover in sync
>eat barrel + pocket coat briefcase combo + 2x heavy melee they charge up at the same time
>take 500+ damage in a literal second and it's not even 5 minutes into the game

every game is like this where the enemy is either a smurf or coordinated teams of high skill high playtime pubstompers. I dont learn anything from any of these losses.
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>>557006779
you dont have to learn every corner boost in the game. just walljump when you get the chance to conserve momentum and air strafe instead of holding w. optimizing movement to such an extent is more optional unless you're like high eternus.
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>>557007045
old map had sovl
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>>557006779
same, i absolutely hate movement in this game it's just unfun as fuck

aiming is already hard enough I dont want to fight some rape victim who has sat in the sandbox for 30 hours practicing "edge boosts" (exploit)
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Alright, /dlg/.
Werewolf pussy? Or unicorn pussy?
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>>557005990
Back when Holliday's ult was autoaim
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>>557007045
I like solo ulting as dynamo and then when people dove I would refresher to ult again. Doesn't really work that well now that it announces very loudly to the enemy team that I bought refresher.
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>>557007260
werewolf knot
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>>557007214
literally every modern shooter is made for people like you. we haven't had one with with cool movement in almost a fucking decade dude. (titanfall 2)
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>>557007260
horsecock
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>>557007045
why do I remember the game being way more fun when it was in this early, early access state? its not the same anymore
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>>557007087
waaaah people pway da game what am i supposed to do
the fuck is bitching like this supposed to accomplish? you feel better?
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>>557007346
apex is right there lil zoom
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>>557007401
Nostalgia only
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>Apollo has mobility as a tag
>Nothing he has will beat celeste's free built in air control
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>>557006779
there are plenty of players in high rank that don't even do most of the hyper autistic movement shit.
they're cope for when you make a bad decision and your odds of escaping a fight go from 0% to 5%.
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>>557006615
My experience from a bit of brool + 1 real match with her, she is a spirit bruiser, I use the 3 to build up stacks and then use 2 to engage, 1 for lifesteal + QSR/mercmag and 4 to disrupt teamfights
I like maxing out her shield first because the cooldown reduction is insane, so you can use both to engage and to leave
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>>557006779
I'm tired of it too and it's going to ensure this game settles in the 100k concurrent player range a few months in after release.

I feel like the deadlock devs are taking the wrong lesson from Dota 2 which is full of obscure tech and quirks and think "oh, players like this shit" when in reality Dota 2 had all that shit because WC3 dota had that shit and WC3 dota had that shit because of engine limitations.
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>>557007401
every character was more powerful
they've been taking nothing but nerfs over the past year
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i love darcy!
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>>557007413
A bit yeah thanks for asking. I never fight anyone my own skill level.
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>>557007438
>nostalgia
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Whats a good keybind for Alt-Fire? Currently I have it set to "G"
I use default Active item hotkeys and changed 1 2 3 4 to QEFT though 1 2 3 4 are still bound as well.
Alt 1234 for leveling skills up mid fight.
Only have 2 side mouse buttons. One is Melee, one is Push to Talk.
Rebound Parry to Scrolling down on scroll wheel.
Most other keys are default.
Not useful for most of the characters I play, but when I need it, I feel it.
Clearly I just need a 3rd mouse button.
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>>557007346
ok? it doesnt work with a moba

it's not a shooter because landing your shots on someone doesnt even matter half the time since they're fed, it feels terrible
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>>557007567
the removal of soul rebirth was so sad. 16 item slots went so crazy too, you could become thanos on any character
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>Push lane
>Someone shows up
>Door out
>They leave
>Push lane
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>>557007621
I think you are wasting a mouse button on Push to Talk. Speak less.
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>>557007526
>WC3 dota had that shit because of engine limitations.
guess what most of the movement tech is?
source engine has had this shit for ages and they probably won't fix it.
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>>557007607
well that's good
there's legacy knowledge transferring over both from shooters and mobas, so even your fellow "new players" might be better than you
part of a high skill cap game is just eating shit for a long while until it clicks and you can have fun
that's just how it is, no magical band aid or "match making" will fix it
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>>557007646
>gun hero (you)
>enemy has 4 full bars of HP
>gun does nothing
>gun hero (enemy)
>obliterates you in one second
every fuckin time
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>>557007526
dota benefits from all of those "limitations"
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>>557007414
dude apex legends is 7 years old. even then, its movement is gutted in comparison to tf2.
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>>557007717
>became the rat lane janny as Silver because the Mina said "I'd like to play the game someone cover yellow" and no one ever covered yellow for me to roam as well
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>>557007913
Ready to be raped
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Girls kissing
sometimes one of them is crying
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>>557006894
>>557006956
>>557007075
you all failed the "independent thought" check. try using 1% of your brain and start with a few simple observations:
1) all of her skill scale with spirit
2) all of her skills scale with size
3)her 2 and ult scale with duration
4)she has an large inherent amount of stamina and can bunny hop
5)aside from inherent auto aim her gun is ass

and work from there. if you did the bare minimum of that you don't need to have other people spoon feed you shit you bunch of brown retarded zoomer niggers.
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How is her winrate so bad when she's broken as fuck?
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>>557007621
what the fuck is your right click bound to if not alt fire?
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>>557007718
Maybe. But makes it hard to actually call something important out or ask for help quickly if its not super easily accessible like that.
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>>557007783
I have like 4.5k hours in dota 2 and have been playing fps all my life so I'm not unfamiliar or have anything against learning heroes, itemisation, map knowledge and all that shit. I just get fucking dumpstered every fucking game. Learning dota wasn't nearly this depressing.

I'd be happier with a real solo queue so I don't have to go against coordinated pubstompers.
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>>557008207
ok how you know?
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>>557007718
push to talk on M4/M5 is the only correct keybind
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>>557008208
At least it's better than Silver's
It's because people haven't cottoned on to the fact that she's just fastVictor yet, though
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>>557008216
Sorry. Not "Alt-Fire"
I meant Alt-Cast.
Like for swapping the direction of Grave's Wall.
Self-shielding with Divine Barrier. Things like that.
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I build Celeste just like Rem except I skip all the support items
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>>557007263
why did they remove this? if you miss celeste's ult half the CD is refunded but if you miss holliday's go fuck yourself
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>>557008362
mine's on scroll click
you can also use the doubletap option
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>>557008208
>why waifu character that requires skill to play correctly has shit WR
mystery...
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>>557006779
Movement is currently at a good place where you only need to learn a practical set of them to be effective at 95% of the game while hyper autistically specific movement tech only give minimal benefit in extremely niche scenarios.
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Alright I'm done using my token. I advice everyone else to do the same. Using the token gives you shitty teammates.
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>>557008204
Made Paige fat and Mina very out of character.
0/10
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>>557008510
She doesn't require skill though lmao
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>>557008519
>a practical set of them
What would you describe as a "practical set"?
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>>557008323
uh actually the correct bind is T and you only press it for a few seconds after dying to let out a screech, maybe a slur
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Venator is easily the worst of the new heroes right?
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>>557006779
you don't need to worry about movement tech until you're eternus 6
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>>557008617
i think he's the worst hero in the game period
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>>557007263
I can't believe how quickly I almost forgot what that old pit was like.
>>557008473
Is double tap actually good? I feel like it would lead to many misinputs.
I have ping on scroll-wheel click. I actually tried moving that and using scroll-wheel click for alt-cast, but when I placed it elsewhere, pinging was a massive pain in the ass. And I use that much more than alt-cast in the majority of games.
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HMMMMM not voting for apollo
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>>557006858
If they play well or are funny/chill, I never commend people abusing broken characters however, you know the ones.
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Now that the dust has settled, is Celeste is a hotpoo hero or an icefraud hero
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>>557008742
idk i love to double tap, it's a dota habit
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>>557007080
are you perhaps autistic?
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>>557008809
What if it's like Stranger Things and none of the Valve devs are making the heroes and it's secretly been their wives this whole time?
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Celeste doesn't do enough damage. Other than like maybe her ult.
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>>557007080
depends, is it brawl or standard?
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>>557008912
>Valve devs
>wives
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>>557008409
because holliday's ult is strong
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>>557008554
that doesn't even look like graves
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>skulls instantly getting deleted within a nanosecond
>people always jump over the wall
>people never get hit by zombies anymore
>can't even reach them with gun
>using skulls/tomb is just giving souls to the enemy
>getting graves every game even without token

It's over, people realized she's kinda ass.
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no matter who you voted for or who you wanted, everyone will have voted for apollo. despite nobody wanting him. kinda deep
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>>557008960
ALL of her spells do damage bro, have you tried just casting them
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>>557009182
nah he right
she kinda mid frfr
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>>557008675
You're not even wrong he's easily worse than all these heroes despite having a slightly higher winrate
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>>557009038
so is celeste's
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>>557009182
*Shit* damage, by the late game even when I'm ahead it feels like she just tickles people.
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>>557009091
>get echoshard to spam two
>if an enemy is cc'd put on top if not put behind where they run into/escape routes
>put tombstone on top +refresher and parry if they try to punch
>get them in off angles and be aggressive so they're too pussy to fight or just buy slows/debuffs
>not if you kill them
>win
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>>557009091
I hate reactive knee jerk nerfs before they just let people adapt to the hero first
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what do against Graves in Hero Brawl? The pressure she applies is annoying as fuck in that mode.
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>>557009263
>Holliday
>2 build types
People still run Gun Holliday?
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Celeste TIP: Her 2 fucks with Billy 1-2-1 combo.
Billy TIP: Stop bashdowning her shield.
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venator is fucking garbage
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>>557006779
>>557007214
>>557007526
I guarantee you, none of you are losing because you aren't doing diagonal airstrafe instant airdash corner boosts. You're losing because you suck at macro.
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Is Holiday ass or are people just bad at her
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guys I think venator is fucking garbage
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>>557009258
>>557009287
I'm not prepared to tolerate hearing this when you have a 5-charge spell that gives you 11% spell amp per hit
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>>557009424
>implying edgeboosting to get away while farming isnt OP af
macro is boring though so yeah i dont give a fuck
im playin overwatch
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>>557008323
the correct keybind is t and moaning into your mic when you fat finger it by accident when trying to reload after a bad play
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>>557009426
both
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>>557009426
Silver doesn't think so
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>>557009424
A huge part of macro is being able to move around the map fast and efficient which is directly tied to autistic movement
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>>557009492
She's fun, okay? Her movement is really fun, but her attack falls off a cliff. Its okay during the early and mid game but just can't keep up.
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Been abusing Pocket for a year and won't be stopping anytime soon
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>>557009424
weak strawman. try again
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>>557009424
>you suck at macro
How do you have good macro when you're walking to jungle camps like a mook
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>>557009658
Most spirit characters fall off late game.
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Ok yoshi, we have enough characters in this game, lets move on to improving the game state past 20 minutes yea? maybe one more objective like a herald or something please. Also the base is way to fucking hard to push into, even 40k up and rejuvs it sometimes feels like an uphill battle
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The game needs TP scrolls for uncs that have no schmovement
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>>557009658
Oh gee well in that case why don't you just press the spell that does 2,970 base damage at 5pt upgrade? That is to say, BASE damage before your spell amp and your spirit scaling?? Maybe that might fucking help you a little bit
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I want Silver to abuse me for a year
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>whiff celeste ult
>it ceases to exist and doesn't bounce off of anything
mother
fucekr
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>overwatch cucks trying to kill the most fun thing about deadlock (the movement)
Please can you people fuck off to literally every other shooter out there? You have all these other out there with zero movement except run and shoot and you want deadlock to be like that too?
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>>557009881
how can you fuck that up? that shit chases you for a god damn city block
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>>557009890
i like most of the movement but celeste being lash 3.0 and never having to touch the floor and only aim vaguely near the enemy with no bullet falloff is gay
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>>557009965
Is it not a skillshot?
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>>557009865
I don't want that, that sounds awful.
I want to help Silver live a happy life and see her smile
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i am playing with "humans" that don't have object permanence please fix the matchmaking yoshi
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Any way to choose your server?
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>>557010016
It is. But you can target a creep. I buy knockdown for setup
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>>557010016
dunno I don't play her, but every time that ball drops it lives forever and will hunt you down.
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>>557008554
bretty gud but needs to be silver's futa red rocket
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I want to keep Silver in my basement and hurt/comfort her
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>>557008554
>anal

dropped
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>>557007401
jank = fun
but it's not appealing so normies don't want to play it
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>>557008554
I snore
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when a deadlock player moves to overwatch, both playerbases' average iq increases.
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>>557010134
This, but without the hurt part
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>>557009996
Then that's a character problem, no?
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>>557009707
if youre playing pocket on this patch hes abusing you
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Why is the Arch Mother's voice acting so shit compared to the old female patron? She used to sound so sinister and now she just sounds flat.
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>>557010093
Nope, CS2 server picker kind of works but server clusters aren't shared 1:1 between the games so there are some you can't opt out of.
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>>557010268
>7.4k damage
Silver, my beloved utter failure of a human being...
Seriously though shut up retard, their Billy wasn't much better. This was a 5v5, you lost, deal with it
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>>557010093
Change download region like any other game on steam
US is full of eurotrash
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>>557010268
Yeah matchmaking is fucking horrible. I want them to remove the new hero no ban shit asap. I'm tired of getting Silver on my team. She is a net negative everyone who plays her is so dogshit bad it makes me want to send them malware that bricks their PC.
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>>557010268
>that silver
The amount of fags that recently pick up this game because of her is more than any other characters in the game.

I hope they fuck off forever after realizing how dogshit they are
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>JUST MELEE THE HECKIN SKULLS BRO
>try to melee them
>Literally out of range
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>>557010321
>Arch Mother's voice acting
Because it's not even her anymore, it's rather silly
And also because it doesn't have the cool filters the old patrons did. They need to
>A: make the Patrons the announcers again
>B: Bring back their really slow deep voice filter
>C: that's it
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Are there any modding autists here? Is there a way to remove the cel shading with a console command or something. I want to see what it looks like
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>>557009309
why is d2g so gay now
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>>557010615
tranny discord
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How would you fix him?
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>>557010549
>melee the skulls
>get two of them and now I have to whip my camera around because they went behind me for some reason
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>>557010615
It is literally one faggot spamming the same 3 images over and over and over
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>>557010571
nah, pull patrons back. Make them like Calypso from twisted metal.
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>>557010365
Deadlock NEEDS more heroes like Lash
The Lash should be the face of Deadlock cause he is truly a DEADLOCK hero
Lash could not exist in another MOBA cause his kit is entirely built around mobility and verticality. He plays to the game's unique qualities and strengths. Venator, Infernus, Graves, Wraith, those could exist in any game, but the Lash is a uniquely DEADLOCK design.
FUCK he's so cool. He deserves to have sex with the whole female cast.
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>>557010654
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>>557010659
move blessed melee to the second upgrade on shotgun, make it trigger on hit instead of wall bash. now he can jungle and he's probably fine
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>>557010659
traps take two shots to destroy
that's it
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>>557010365
unironically remove lash
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>>557010659
>traps don't slide, land where they're thrown, and have shorter duration + immobilize duration
>grenade's burn radius is much wider
There, fixed
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my wraith didnt have a single kill :(
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silver is a brool only champion
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>>557010659
Increase his tankiness or increase his movement
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>>557010849
Yes, sadly my wife Silver needs some small token buffs to help her out
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>>557010426
>tfw no silver to bond over being losers with
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>>557010659
more pure damage all around
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>>557010659
Give him a shirtless skin
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>>557010659
give him better spirit scaling so good players will play him
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>>557010659
make sure his belly his full and his balls are empty
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>>557011137
The #2 ranked NA player plays him a lot though
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>>557011141
he's a priest
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ivy would be a lot cuter if it weren't for her septum
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please help me i cannot find the location of this sinner
i am trying to practice and learn the map but i cant find the sinner that's at the tip of my little icon on the mini map
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>Still fairly new, playing around with Kelvin because iceman and his beam is fun
>pushing, on the verge of winning when enemy Seven ults and someone says to bail
>intrusive thought: I have a lot of spirit, I wonder if my ult can outpace that
>pop it down
>it doesn't outpace it
>team immediately screams at me to turn it off
>turn it off and barely make it out
>win 5min later
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>>557011434
Is this a trick question?
It's in the building right in front of you
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>>557009308
sounds like it'd work up to oracle
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>>557010150
man I loved the jank, especially heavy melee charge
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>>557011482
this is a situation that occurs when someone who cant read or do math has power
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>>557011239
>he thinks the priest who smokes, drinks and kills draws the line at sex
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>get to Phantom I with a 60% win rate or so
>Get into a match with what I can only assume are Ascendants
>Absolutely spastic movement while never missing a single shot or ability
>Never ever making a single mistake and constantly never overextending
>Play every single camp/box/buff perfectly

I've officially stopped having fun. These people play this game way too fucking much
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it'd be cool if they buffed venator's tankiness
would make him more interesting than just another m1 monkey
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I'm really wondering why should I be playing anyone other than Holliday? her damage is crazy throughout the entire game with her barrels, her movement is awesome with the jumppads, and she has an ult that is literally always good no matter the state of the game
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>>557011546
prolly unsure how top tier graves gameplay is like if any, that's just what i do personally
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>>557011482
you can ult just you and save in it to save your team
or ult your team in it with seven outside so your team gets healed and doesn't get hit by it

sevens ult needs a direct line of sight and kelvin ults stops it.
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>>557011493
omfg it wasn't showing up even after i clicked spawn camp earlier
i clicked it again and it spawned im so sorry
thank you
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>>557011590
You have to draw the line somewhere :/
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>>557011637
If you like her why stop playing her
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>>557011654
god bless you anon
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>>557009075
Lol I thought it was Silver without the ears.
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>>557011640
>prolly unsure how top tier graves gameplay is like
They all defaulted to gun because spirit is pretty fucking shit and doesn't do anything anymore, it basically has TOO much counterplay to put all your souls into the same basket.

In comparison with gun you just farm and aim at them, but you're ultimately just a worse infernus.
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>>557011717
i don't want to, but it is making me feel a little bad because it's like, why put any time into learning other heroes? she's almost never banned too since no one plays her
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i want to fuck graves shithole
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KEEP YOUR EYES ON MY BALLS BOYS N GIRLS
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>>557011001
I could fix her and she could fix me
An even trade
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>>556980091
Decided I was going to learn this guy today as a backup to paradox. Lost 3 games in a row then won 3 in a row getting MVP in the last 2. He's so fun.
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is graves weak now
when do I get to play her
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So help me god the first time I get cheated out of a kill because my teammate used one of the abilities that fucks with MY movement, of which there are several in this game because these MOBA devs have never touched a game with actual movement in their lives and don't know that that's one of the literal worst ideas ever, I will uninstall
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>>557011853
trans-coded voiceline
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>>557011795
>gun
wow that sounds kind of boring. she's a very slow character as is so wasting slots getting speed just to run it down
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>>557012317
Still above average winrate in shitter ranks and pro ranks alike, she's strong
So you never get to play her, not sorry
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>>557012317
>weak
fuck no, as long as her wall exists
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where the hell is the baseball themed character
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who would be 2 other good heroes to learn when i don't get holliday? paradox maybe?
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>try to play vikor
>have fun with him
>try to play viscous
>have fun with viscous
>try to play seven
>have fun with seven
>try to play mina, vyper, venator, lash, & vindica
>suck ass with them should I just never touch gun based characters?
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is grey talon invincible when he channels ult now or what? i dumped all my spells into him as lash and did no damage at all and another time i ulted him as he used ulti and he wasn't affected
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>>557012765
If you just like the pickoff life yeah. Paradox, Bebop, maybe M&K
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>>557005642
imagine the sex
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Still waiting on those Venator buffs....
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>>557010659
I wish he was more bulky, he's big and slow as fuck, maybe they could bump up his resists scaling with spirit, back in his WIP days he had a passive that gave him resists the more sustained damage he took.
Also pure damage is really cool conceptually, but there is no way to build around it since it doesn't interact with 90% of the game's items.
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Did any drawfags draw futa graves getting jerked off by the hand yet
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>>557008542
I used my token and completely stomped on the enemy team
Skill issue
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>>557012802
you forgot to hit space
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>>557009075
its hit and miss
https://files.catbox.moe/68fni8.webm
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The reality is that overwatch and rivals are good and popular because they design around consoles
Those constraints actually allow to design elegant gameplay solutions and scenarios

Deadlock is autistic shit stuck to PC and so it will only have autistic shit
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>>557013150
considering spirit does nothing else for him, they could triple the spirit scaling on his resists without anyone noticing
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>>557012874
what's the deal with Paradox btw? how do you not instantly get blown up when you ult someone?
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>>557013289
The reality is that Deadlock has virtually nothing to do with either of those games and you are a deeply closeted homosexual
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>>557013289
Trvke.
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>>557013220
that I did, though wouldn't it be enter as opposed to space?
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>be silver
>enemy buys metal skin
>they press it as soon as i bola them every time
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So if you play Silver against Sinclair you're basically throwing the match, but there's no way to know if the enemy team will have Sinclair before the match starts.
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>>557013150
His movespeed needs to be bumped up, there's no reason for him to be the same speed as Abrams with a worse sprint speed
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>>557013304
If he had REALLY good spirit scaling you could get away with building stuff like magnum and boundless paired with some cheap greens, he already makes good use of some spirit items like rapid recharge.
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I think Venator's shotgun needs to have charges too.

Like that's all he needs. Also, make it so that the traps can't be shot.
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>>557013497
can't you just switch lanes?
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>>557013616
>there's no reason for him to be the same speed as Abrams
He's bucket 3 dash speed also.
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>>557013276
better but anal is meh and her face adds this weird blush to her. optional, you should also add some clothes on her and make it a classroom setting then we're talking. significantly better than the last one. it was hard to distinguish the last one minus the hair color, eye and body type, if you let her hair down put things that make it obvious that it's her like her clothes.
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>>557008554
>anal

picked up
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>>557013674
>make it so the deployable can't be damaged
Dude everyone complained when you couldn't shoot Rem's helpers and that was like a WEEK ago
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>>557013674
I'd rather they just lower the cd, 26s is brutal since it's his only form of disengage
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>>557013289
dead cock as TOO many buttons
>4 abilities
>items
>all fps shit like sliding jumping parrying and melee
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>>557013854
>totally not responding to my own post from over an hour ago
Saar
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>>557014002
there's 4 other replies to it
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imagine the venator/apollo hatesex
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>>557014070
no one positive Saar
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apollo is super straight
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>>557013289
>good
>designed for controller
LOL
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>>557014149
if he's so straight why is he rimming venator while he gets called slurs?
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Make Venator's resist spirit scaling more than cosmetic so I can make something interesting
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8 losses in a row where the game was decided in lane phase already
nonstop stomps

im going back to overwatch where they know how to add proper matchmaking
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>>557014229
ywnba grog
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>>557008554
>No penis
gay
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>>557013289
Trvke, I like Rivals and Deadcock, even if the balance atm with Rivals pisses me off to no end, I like how you can build your hero in Deadlock to fit a variety of situations but I have too much shit in my life at the moment to autistically min/max with 30-40 min games, so thank christ for brawl.
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holliday and paradox eating eachother out
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One thing I like about Deadlock, and that I don't think a lot of people appreciate, is that it's genuinely fun to play despite not having any kind of progression or carrot on the stick mechanics to keep you grinding. 100k+ players are playing it every day because they just like it. That's honestly pretty unheard of for new multiplayer games.
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>>557014070
From an hour ago.
>this’ll get the ball rolling again!
>>557014403
>let me try again! Less positive this time

Just go away.
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>>557014461
Will we ever get to see under the fishbowl
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>>557014676
Player retention is a lot more important than it used to be because game development has gotten so much more expensive
It's actually normal for people to play a game for a few weeks or months and not touch it for a while, but that doesn't make enough money so the corporate overlords put all the live service stuff in
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>>557014724
i pretty much never assume someone is samefagging, maybe i'm too trusting.
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>here's your carry bro
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>>557014985
Greens are for pussies
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>>557014887
No one cares about your ai saar
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>>557014676
The movement makes it leagues better than any other hero shooter for me
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deadlock is simply not comparable to rivals or overwatch, it's in a league of it's own
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>>557015535
>league
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I have an issue with my writing where I can only write mental breakdowns, emotional spirals, and people being irreverent
So I guess it's good that I'm writing angst featuring Mina and Silver right now
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>>557014676
Valve is king at doing stuff like that, you don't need colorful fomo garbage to keep you entertained, the game feels good to play, to just move around and shoot.
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>enters thread
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What does this little shit put in these?
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>>557011590
Only some protestants think drinking and smoking are haram, while catholic priestly celibacy is enforced.
still... maybe he's in a weird limbo area or something.
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Obviously Deadlock like Dota will have all its heroes unlocked

So whats the carrot once they add in monetization? Just skins?
Will we be allowed to change and customize our base maybe?
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>>557015853
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>>557015853
a micro vision of your best life
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>>557015882
Probably skins, more like individual cosmetic pieces separated by grade etc etc.
Same crap as all of their games really.
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>next vote
>apollo still loses somehow
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>>557015853
All the embarasing shit you did 10 years ago and remember just before sleeping.
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>>557016089
Based, release the rat hero
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>>557015882
same shit in every valve game, loot boxes and season passes
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>>557016129
mr chedda?
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>0/8 rem one game
>0/12 billy next game
>when I'm about to win a game a rem randomly leaves for 10 minutes
>when I win games in a row it doesn't rank me up
>when I lose once I instantly rank down
This might be genuinely the worst matchmaking and game ever made by man.
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>>557012446
>wow that sounds kind of boring.
it's either that or not playing the game
if you put all your eggs on spirit the skulls get instantly demolished and need a lot of uptime to do anything
if you go hard on ult it doesn't do shit anymore damage wise
if you go skulls and ult same thing applies, and guess what a single wraith/haze/infernus with ricochet can single handledly clear all your shit in a split second

So ultimately your only answer is to go gun but even then you're worse than actual m1ggers because now you have zero range.


The character just sucks monkey dick when people know what they're doing.
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>it's the 3rd time in a row the game puts some first time newfag in my lane that takes a million damage from creep aggro and dies
HOLY FUCK YOSHI YOU FUCKING MONKEY HOW HARD CAN IT BE TO MAKE IT SO NEWFAGS DON'T PLACE HIGHER THAN SEEKER
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erm, wheres another balance patch yoshi??
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Street Brool taught me to be more confident in taking engagements.
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>>557006698
I still sincerely miss how interesting the geometry around mid was before.
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The balance patch will be next week after Apollo gets some time in the sundont hold your breath
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>>557006698
old geist portrait is so lulzy
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>>557016837
yea its not as good now
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>>557015535
I agree
I'd put rivals and overwatch in the corpo shooter category, Deadlock is much MUCH higher up, in the fun games category
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Late to the party but Victor taking his arm off and using it as a weapon for his heavy melee goes really hard
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>>557017167
my man is in perpetual agony yet choose to beat you over the fucking head with an arm attached to a body he doesn't recognize
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>>557007087
Rank / matchmaking is utterly fucked. Keep at it though and you should end up in a more comfortable spot eventually. Watching some footage of better people often helps too.
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How the fuck are you supposed to play as yamato? I Can do well with her in brawl but I just cant in normal mode
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>>557008554
Giving this another (You) to make the tranny angry kekaroo
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There are people who think losses are your fault. This is in oracle.
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>>557017291
>>557007087

>. Keep at it though and you should end up in a more comfortable spot eventually
lmao no you won't
unless you stack to eternus where the game refuses to drop you out of it you're in a perpetual hell hole where you have people going 0/9/1 constantly even in ascendant games and if you lose once you derank, you win 3 times you don't get shit


do yourself a favor and stop playing the game, save yourself the suffering of having to deal with these paycheck stealing devs
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>>557017584
Hey man, there are matches and matches
Don't respond to my post please
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>>557015785
oh hey, thats me!
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what's paradox's typical ult combo and usual damage dealing stuff? is she supposed to focus on her grenade or her 3? and are you meant to do wall-ult instantly together?
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>when it finally clicks
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>>557013289
if we are comparing to unrelated games in different genres we can also say its too fast paced because of the popularity of turn based rpgs in recent years.
what are you exactly even trying to say with this retarded comparison?
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>>557006046
Shes doesnt want anyone to know shes really a horse
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>>557015785
>victor irl
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is this game winnable
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>>557018903
this image was made by a vampire
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what does minas shit smell and taste like bros
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>>557019218
guano
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I had a bad night, bros.
One of those nights where even trying to just go a comfy support was a frustrating nightmare.
And every fight is just so one sided, I don’t understand the matchmaking at all.
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>>557019218
shes a vampire bro
she doesn't excrete anything
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celeste's theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxfyax1IPdk
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>>557018764
every game is winnable if you believe hard enough
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>>557017583
Very good samefag saar
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>>557018004
cast swap and then wall, not the other way around. (unless they're right infront of ur face, then u should wall first)
you typically want to build out gun items earlier on to hit the 4.8k investment and focus on her 3 at first. (it scales off gun damage)
from there, max out your wall since the silence is extremely good and look for good picks.
if you get very ahead you can go all-in with gun items like glass cannon / crippling headshot etc. or do a spirit nuke thing with spirit burn / mystic reverb.
otherwise i like going more utility with shit like divine barrier or curse to guarantee value and be annoying.
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I cant aim at all, but lots of the chars that I find interesting require aiming.
Fuck my life
I guess ill jsut stick to paige, rem, and ivy
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>>557019685
why swap then wall? don't you want them to go through the silence and the -10% max hp?
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cool another 1/9 venator on my team amazing
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>>557019304
Lame
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>>557018304
what's the build?
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>>557015598
You better not be saying that to mean Mina/Silver
if it's Mina AND Silver then fine though
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You should be able to parry drifter's 1 and silver's 1/her kick but the attacker doesn't get stunned as normal, it just avoids the damage
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>>557019814
yes, that's what happens.
walling first is slower, it's better to cast swap first and then you can cast wall before the swap hits them.
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>>557020160
wait what, you can cast wall while the swap is happening?
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SO ITS NOT ENOUGH I GET QUEUED WITH PEOPLE GOING 0/12 AND LITERALLY LEAVING GAMES 6 GAMES BACK TO BACK

BUT IF I REPORT THEM I GET REPORTING DISABLED
I HOPE ALL VALVE DEVS READING THIS DIE HORRIBLY
I HOPE YOUR MOTHERS DIE HORRIBLY
I HOPE YOUR FIRST BORN GETS EVISCERATED
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>>557020242
Spiritually brown post
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>Venating with Rapid Recharge, Recharging Rush, Mercurial Magnum
This is so fun
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>>557020358
>does 1k damage after 50 minutes
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>>557020203
no.
wall before the swap projectile hits the enemy.
go into sandbox, choose paradox, press the 4 key and then the 2 key.
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Crazy how overwatch has more tasteful women designs than this shit game
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tried gun graves, ngl it feels better. just be a debuff bot dashing around, get a CD and duration for your ult to still be big, then just run around spamming walls and hold m1.
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>>557020410
They're brown sluts
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Remove her from the game
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>>557020410
t. rice/curryburner
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anyone has the go to sleep nigga image
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>>557020392
aside from merc magnum, those other 2 items are legitimately good
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>>557020405
oh neat, thanks

do you recommend grenade or carbine builds for her btw? or should I just have both builds saved and choose based on which damage my team is lacking?
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>>557020503
>removing the main character
idiot
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>>557020517
What kind of fucking retard burns rice?
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>>557019925
Your typical m1nigger build. Build the 1 to T2 first, then ult to T3, 1 to T3. Do whatever you want for shotgun and traps.
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>>557020580
and merc mag is flushing 6400 souls down the toilet on him
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>>557020587
yea def try both out and see what u like, paradox builds can be pretty flexible.
echo shard grenade is v funny damage for late game but i think carbine builds are easier to play.
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>>557020609
thats not abrams thoughbeit
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>run into enemy tower to parry it
>it refused to melee me
why the fuck does this happen
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Which character should I boobify
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>>557020872
the lash
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>>557020706
thanks a ton anon, i'll play around with her and try to figure out if I should have Paradox or Holliday as my highest priority hero and have the other one as a sub
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>>557020609
That's not Mina
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLUNP0ExO-E
>payload is real
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They do lots of things!
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I am making a 100 chapter erotic fanfic about Silver falling in Love with my OC and then getting cheated on by my OC
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Remove the full heal troopers get from Rem's helpers. That shit is not balanced.
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>>557021246
So... where's chapter 1?
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Start running pal
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>>557021315
Okay, the resists go up to 75% now
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Crazy how much effort I need to expend to play Silver to a loss while I can just faceroll my keyboard with Venator
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>>557020835
>>557020835
>>557020835
seriously what's the deal?
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After the ritual is complete, if you'd like tickets to South Pacific, don't be afraid to ask!
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>>557021446
someone else probably parried it or it was stunned.
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>>557021457
MO, YOU BEAUTIFUL MOLE BASTARD! GIVE ME A HUG!
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>>557021446
a) it was already parried within the last 10? seconds
b) it's being a piece of shit
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>>557021042
Fucking why though, OW map design is awful
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Who is the face of Deadlock in your guys opinions?
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>>557020503
wish it had a darker background to use it on my phone.
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>>557021674
Abrams
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>>557021446
when it gets parried it gets stunned for 1 second but it has a 5 second or so cooldown where it refuses to melee again.
either that or it sometimes gets hard-focused on one of those melee minions and doesn't give a fuck about you for some reason.
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>>557021674
Abraham
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>>557021674
Abrahams
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>enemy has an Abrams and silver lane
>I'm bebop
>team doesn't let me swap into it and forces me to lane against pocket
And so I int
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If Vindicta was released today, her ult would use gun damage and her crow would autoaim
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>>557021674
The lash
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>>557021874
yeah, but she'd be wearing shoes and trannies would post about her
have you considered that?
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I wish Rem was real I need help sleeping :^(
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>>557021874
but venator's ult already uses gun damage and his grenades are trickier to land than crows
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>>557020242
It's crazy how much shit I'll talk, how I'll sometimes leave (afk) because something comes up, or do meme builds into catastrophe and I've never gotten reported, at least to the point that anything bad happened. Then anon gets in trouble for being a tattletale lol
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>>557021674
I don't think there's a specific one
It'd have to be a toss-up between Abrams (closest thing to a John Deadlock), Infernus (second closest, cool looking fire man), and Ivy (salvaged the game's reception after the initial leak)
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>>557021834
It wasn't intentional you just fed because you couldn't outplay em.
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>>557022247
does any moba have a "face of" type hero?
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why is deadlock getting popular now? are they adding coomerbait characters? I played it 6 months ago and it was a pretty meh game
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>vyper thinks paige is a stripper
>celeste thinks venator is a stripper
who else is slut coded?
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Let's see what this book can do
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>>557021674
Abrams
>Everything gets redesigned visually around him
>Used to be on all the art so hes the protagonist
>Still a ton of voice lines dedicated to just him
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>>557022395
Trans unicorn with trans movement
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>>557022540
seriously, is that all? have they not improved/changed the game in any way besides tweaking the cards?
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>>557021428
I'll take it better than shooting a trooper then to hear "THANK YOU!" to have a trooper get fully healed up on top of getting resist.
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>>557022603
it's bait
https://www.playdeadlock.com/oldgods
tl;dr new game mode, characters, map, bases
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>>557021016
what the fuck is going on with her hand here
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>Stick to lane partner like glue, they go in I go in, they fall back I fall back, we ride or die in this bitch.
>Lane period ends
>Lane partner has like 5k-8k more souls than me
>Feel like pic rel.
Am I missing something?
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I literally haven't played since a month before the first Christmas event because of some IRL stuff left me with a too bad computer to use, heroes I should play to get the rust off?
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>>557022395
Its popularity has been on a steady incline for months thanks to social media and word of mouth. That's why I say Valve needs to get their heads out of their asses and commit to an open beta this year.
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>>557022703
mating press sloppy french kisses with graves
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>>557021674
Abrams is literally the Heavy of deadlock.
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They should host a vote but for character remodels this time
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>>557022752
venator if you're a chud
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>>557022836
Who's the spy crab of deadlock
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>>557022752
venator if you want to lose
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>>557022736
sounds like a good idea to watch the replay and find out how that happened
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>>557022729
do people boot up the game just to play the new game mode? valve tried that in dota 2 but honestly very few people played custom games in it, I heard it's growing and chinese people are starting to play it but in general new game modes don't do anything
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>>557022337
I guess Jugg and Drow for Dota? Dunno about LoL, haven't looked at that shit game for years
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>>557022836
No one is the "Heavy" of anything because Heavy is something that no one can replicate. Not even Valve can replicate the charisma that is the fat russian fuck
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>>557006858
Only when I win and its a stomp
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How do I kill these fuckers? They just appeared at raped my best legion
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>Get an Abrams lane partner
>He sits back
>Expects me to go in
>He never does anything
>Literally playing a frontline character
>But playing like a bitch
>In a Phantom game
I don't even know how or why this guy was in my game but they need to do something about this matchmaking it's horrid.
>>557022736
Did they get the kills or did you?
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>>557023093
Deadlock?
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Who is the meatiest tank in the game currently? Not one with an ability that makes him or her invunerable for a few seconds and that's it but someone with a combination of HP, regeneration, damage reduction and maybe shields.
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>>557022776
No they dont

The game is still stupidly unfinished
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>>557023078
I miss when Russians were fun instead of literal orcs
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>>557021042
the fuck? why?
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>>557023189
Valvetime has mindbroken you
Deadlock is absolutely in a state to be completed this year if the devs actually gave a shit
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I'm doing horribly almost every match and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong
It's like I'm being targeted every match
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When are they going to add a Chinese character
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>>557021042
imagine having to share a general with rivalsfags playing this shit, christ
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>cucklock
>finished
yeah, if you like mindless drooling brawl games that will die in 6 months LOL
this game is way too shallow, far away from what icefraud and pump into a game, it needs at least 10 more patches before we can even call it playable
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>>557023336
The obligatory Wukong hero will be in the next batch
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>>557023294
quit stupid subhuman
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So if Deadlock ever gets an official release, what monetization do you think Valve will implement to recoup the development cost? I just hope it's not new skins that make the characters hard to recognize at range.
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>>557023336
>Chinese character is literally that one small dragon from Mulan
Would you play him?
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>>557023483
it'll be the same dota 2 monetization (skins lootboxes) except it'll have battlepasses, that's my guess
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>>557021680
>>557023179
Damn I bet she could fart really good before the weight loss
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here's my hero
Ricardo the Romantic. he's a serial killer with 2 revolvers, one in each hand. He uses 1 gun at a time and wears a trench coat, a panama hat, and a party mask

1: kiss of death
next light melee attack reduces spirit and bullet resistance and applies a meter. Ricardo can fill the meter by landing gunshots. If the meter fills, DOT damage applied and the bullet / spirit resistance shred is increased and applied in an AOE around the target. Landing a heavy melee fills the meter by half
2: Slave of the Night
Ricardo splits in 2 (the "second" mirrors the players actions) and becomes ethereal (real Ricardo harmable by ground AOE spells only). He gains movement speed and his doppel are viewable as black figures while active. Ricardo can only journey so far from where he cast the spell, but once he lands any kind of attack (or the effect runs out), he and his doppel enter reality. The doppel will harmlessly mimic Ricardo for a time before disappearing. real ricardo gains a buff depending on what he did to enter reality
Gunshot: increased move speed, stamina recovery
light melee: same as gun but with bullet and spirit shred,
heavy melee: same as light but with firing speed
time out: hp regen, suffers a MS slow

3: Twisted Love
The first half of Ricardo's gun magazine (right hand gun) gives lifesteal% equal to the bullet resis shredded from the target
the second half (left hand gun) deals bonus spirit damage according to the spirit resis shredded

Ultimate: My Darling
First, Ricardo rapidly fires all remaining bullets in his revolver cylinders (must be aimed) (full benefits of twisted love). Then he puts his guns away and reaches into his coat to pull out a bomb. M1 throws the bomb, he lobs it underhanded and it detonates on contact with anything. Bomb receives full benefits of Twisted Love. He takes damage from his bomb.
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>>557023483
Character skins with the option to disable them in settings, win-win for everyone
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>>557023179
warden unironically
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>>557023598
>trench coat
stopped reading
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>>557016129
>>557016208
Cheesed to meet you
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>>557013289
I wish I could port Daredevil and just play him in deadlock triple support still not nerfed btw
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whos the huskar of the game
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>>557023598
hotpoo lay off the chatgpt
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>>557023336
>chinese character
>in 20-50s
china didn't really exist during that time, we'd have to bend the rules and either push them back into imperial times or keep them as hard commies
if you use a child of a railroad worker that will probably come off as offensive to modern chinks
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>>557023093
game?
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>>557023896
Futa Paradise
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>>557023690
a-are trench coats common for character ideas
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>>557023896
I think I know the game, it's solium something
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>>557023943
not that i know of. it's just very JD from heathers. school shooter chic, yk. edginess is out of vogue
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>>557023806
john henrys blasian son wong henry
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>>557024005
Oh yeah it's solium infernum, it looked like such a cool game too bad it's only playable with friends which I have none.
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>>557023336
WHO WANTS WANG
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>>557024101
a chigger would be funny
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>missed every single holliday lasso
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
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>>557024106
yeah, I saw day9 play it ages ago
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>>557023483
valve has somehow managed to pioneer cancerous monetization schemes in every single one of their newer games so probably something not seen before or at least not popular but done in a way that everyone accepts
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>Here's your new character sir
>https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/lisa-williams-the-tenacious-reporter.945/
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>>557006698
those source subway textures are getting me nostalgic
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Is there a way to make it so a button press is automatically two at once, like a config file or something? Something like Holiday 1 + melee or Paradox 4 + 2 for example.
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Green Abrams
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>>557006698
Crazy to think the game used to look like this
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>>557007995
>get exclusive access to solo lane farm
>complain
you dont know how good you had it
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>>557023806
Clearly we need a corrupt warlord chinese man
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Green Venator
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>there are still nu soi sloppas in here that think silver is le weak or something

REMINDER that the downplaying transexuals itt thought that calico was weak at first until players actually good at the game started getting a couple hundred games under their belts and realized she was hitler 2 3 and 4.
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For me, it's completely ignoring lanes and just farming every Sinners to be the strongest Lash around
>bro stop farming and help
No
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>>557007080
>nooo how dare they updoodled me!! my reputation is going up!
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>>557006779
they should add a controls option that automates the tedious things like air strafing and bhops
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>>557008893
that... that's melted wax, right?
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>there is no macro game
>there is no map awareness
>there is no strategy
>there is only brawl
>there is only conga lines towards the next objective that is blinking on the map
we dota chads despise this game, icefraud, do better
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>>557005886
this was pure kino horror
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Majestic leap Graves
Think about it
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>>557006698
I MISS THESE AREAS LIKE YOU WOULDNT BELIEVE

THE GANKS, THE CHASES, THE DUELS AND TEAMFIGHTS IN THIS WEIRD AREA WERE AMAZING AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>557023483
>what monetization do you think Valve will implement to recoup the development cost
One day of Steam income already recoups any development costs
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>>557024374
what do you mean instant cast?
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>there is no gay sex
>there are no furries
>there are no russians
>there is no itemization
>there are no builds
we deadlock chads despise dota, icefraud, do better
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>>557024830
Where initiator abilities?
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>>557022048
>his grenades are trickier to land than crows
lol?
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>>557024830
>jumps in
>does nothing
>dies
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Magic carpet should let you use skills without interrupting flight
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>>557024990
>grenade arcs
>unless doing a direct hit, has to bounce at least once before it explodes
Everything >>557022048 said is true.
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>>557006698
Where did those getting parried animations go? They were cool. Dynamo stumbling over, Abrams falling to his knees, Ivy and Vyper flopping over onto their belly... It was a cool touch
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>>557024819
I wish this was true then I wouldnt be tired of retarded carrys ignoring macro to brool because sinners and farm is too boring for them.
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idk how you guys have trouble with ven's nades, shit flies out so fast
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GRAVES AND PAIGE FLEW TO MEXICO AND ARE NOW PREGNANT
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>>557023483
Datamine says more focused on crafting, considering how many laws world wide are going up about loot box's and what not, I'm guessing there going to lean into the grind. Expect to be able to buy skins or farm up insane amounts of "crafting items" to make skins from a list with no RNG involved
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>>557025240
silver is too, but that's a separate issue because it's by me
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>>557024995
don't care still playing silver
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>>557025240
I'm the father
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Elves, dwarves and orcs in deadlock yay or nay
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>>557025278
you'll care when I disarm you doggy
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>>557015535
deadlock is definitely in a league of legends of pc games
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>/dlg/ genuinely has trouble hitting venator nades
no wonder the latest polls showed an average rank of seeker
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>>557025328
Keen folk from dota
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>>557025240
Mexican half breed posting is 20 years old
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>>557025371
Look at how many people here downplay Graves, this should not come as a surprise
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>>557025371
true, theyre not high rank like us (oracle)
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I have 110 Doorman games and 75 with Billy, who should I pick up as my third hero?
I like Doorman because of how interesting and flexible his kit is and I like Billy because he's easy to play when I dont feel like thinking.
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Why does Graves kind of sound like meg griffin & why does Celeste kind of sound like either Yumi from Leauge?
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>>557025328
If they followed the European folklore, and weren't just DnD characters, sure.
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>>557025240
based groyper general
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>>557025443
apollo since youre a homo
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>>557025443
silver since you're based
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>>557025443
Dynamo for the build variety, stompmaxxing is uber braindead too
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>infernus has a line about hating when he kills patrons.
>No kill lines on Silver (THE ALCOHOLIC CHARACTER) besides some generic stuff
come the fuck on
>>557024913
>>557016837
>>557025149
I miss that lower interior area around mid with the jungle camp that people loved to fight in like FUCK I used to RULE that play as abrams. The new map genuinely has a lot less going for it and the only thing that it does have is that the 1v1 lane fucking did kinda suck for balance. But even then it was fun.
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Darcy Graves lets weird old men sniff her smelly feet during lunch break for nickels.
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>>557020158
would destroy both character's viability and make them even more M1
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>>557025418
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>>557025443
Rem, he's easier than Doorman but much harder than Billy and your build is very fluid since you get to play to your team's strengths
Dynamo is also a good choice like the other guy said, they play more similarly than you'd expect
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Silver shouldn't get capacitor as a basic ability.
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>>557022776
nah open beta 2028. let this turkey bake in the oven baby
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>>557025742
>>557024913

>I miss that lower interior area around mid with the jungle camp that people loved to fight
Hospital... home...
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>win as graves
>get called a pedophile
wtf bros
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>>557025987
It's a skillshot quit crying
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>>557026086
>ILOVEJAILBAIT, mvp, graves
I wonder why
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>>557023293

desu if leakcucks are to be leieved then theres actually a second half to the update coming soon
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>>557025443
Pickup abrams so you can eternally shitstomp a game in every balance patch.
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>>557026086
Graves is 18. Celeste confirms.
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>>557005642
How easy is the game to learn? My friend wants me to play with him, but I don't trust him after he made me play Dota 2 in the past.
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>>557026151
akshually darcy graves is a 18 year old woman in canon so checkmate troon
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>>557026086
SHES ONLY 18 YEARS 5 MONTHS AND 23 DAYS OLD YOU SICK FUCK
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>>557026086
New Celeste dialogue confirms that she's 18 and ready to breed
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>>557025742
Most of the "launch" heroes don't have dialogue recorded for the new ones yet, probably because it's easy to run into a Grey Talon situation where he gets called Orion in old voicelines

>>557026187
thank u saar
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>>557024219
I'm not exactly certain why everyone wants a photographer in deadlock so badly
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Paige is delivering the urn!
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Theres no point bringing back most of the VAs to keep recording lines.

Better to do it in one fell swoop once everyone is locked in design wise. Grab some who are easily available sure but I get the point.
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>>557025328
elves/tuatha de denaan have mythological/occult precedence as do dwarves. orcs not so much, that's purely tolkien and also kinda overlap with ixians
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>>557026331
which dialogue pls link
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this critter fills me with joy
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>>557025482
>and weren't just DnD characters
Apollo is literally a Rogue Tiefling Tumblr ass design
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>>557025371
The bigger problem is if you do miss you have to wait 30 second before you can throw one again
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at this point I really think that doing well early game on doorman is basically a sure sign that I'm going to lose
Almost every loss on here, we had a 10k or more soul lead in the mid game.
The most recent one we had a 40k soul lead. Even at the end of the game we still had a lead of 25k
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>>557026568
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>>557026591
And that's a good thing
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>>557026203
It's way easier to learn than dota 2 is, but it's still more complicated than your average hero shooter because it's a moba.
I'd give it an HONEST try. Me and my friends absolutely despised dota 2 but we love this game coming from baby tier shit like HOTS.
>>557026382
Infernus does have lines for Silver, they're just generic "Got the werewolf." stuff, there's one line that is neat "She probably won't remember that tomorrow." I just wish we had one where he's like "Shit, there goes half of Jezebel's income." or something. You'd expect him to have more to say as a bartender as the drunk character.

Though silver's lines in general are just... really nothing special. I really hope they give her a do over with alot of her lines because there's just no personality in alot of them and that sucks.
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>>557026591
and I didn't vote for him, and he's going to be the last alchemist added this patch.
I can only hope he plays better than he looks.
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>>557026516
AI could very easily solve this issue.
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>>557026774
good morning saar
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Bros.

Neutral Objective. Opens at 20 minutes.
'Sacrificical Pit'. Small underground area that only opens up at 20 minutes beneath the side lanes. Can reach it through tunnels in the nearby buildings and in that little area on the far edge behind the veil walkers, below the tier 3 camp.

Only one hero from each team can enter. It's a small arena with obstacles and doodads to hide behind and shit.

Two enter. One leaves. BUT FOR COMEBACK POTENTIAL -- Depending on the enemy's soul count, you can have TWO people enter the arena and make it a 2v1.

WHOEVER WINS GETS TO UPGRADE ANY 3200 ITEM AND BELOW UP TO AN 'ENHANCED' VERSION LIKE FROM STREET BRAWL. Maybe some bonus souls too if you're behind?? Maybe throw in a sinner's sacrifice bonus too.

If one team has a hero in the pit for ~20 seconds and the other team does not send in a challenger, the team with a contender in the pit gets the automatic win.

Rough concept. Tell me what you think.
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ricochet should not hit graves skulls. it's literally impossible to play her against anyone with a brain unless you go gun which is extremely boring.
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>>557026774
The bubble popped get over it
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@557026808
Obsessed
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>>557026621
like honestly I don't really get it
Normally they'll throw me one pity win after a streak of losses, but I wish I could actually win a game instead of relying on the matchmaking algorithm to give me a game where I could be afk and our team would still win
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We need a hero that creates elevated platforms that has a passive that lets her deal damage if she's higher than the enemy
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How do I build/play her? There is absolutely zero consensus among the top public builds.
>TP+EE spirit melee brawler
>mystic shot/sharpshooter+mm+express long range blaster abusing her gun's autoaim and no falloff
>pocket-esque hybrid buying spirit shred and cold front
>everything in between
I don't think I'm good enough to pull off the melee one since she's pretty squishy and I don't have the movement skills to get in->slap->wallbounce away, but hitting Light Eater is a bitch otherwise
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>>557026774
Pick up a pencil nigga
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I still dont get why that bank at the corner of the map is so detailed

There gonna be so many areas in this mao that are super detailed byst most players will rarely see if ever
Whats the plan here
Surely its for maybe a new objective
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I wish they brought back TF2's voice line system. It'd imo make communication alot easier than just 8 slots and a context ping desu
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>>557027021
nobody even knows what the proper ap order looks like because all of her aps are op, the build wont be figured out for a while so just pick one that you feel comfortable on for now
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>>557026656
I get the impression that Silver is the most recent hero they were working on out of the current batch with her generic lines and lack of unique animations
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>>557027195
She is

Silver was the one leakers barely showed off
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Saar do not redeem the urn saar.
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one more week until we can ban silver
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The worst hero in the game
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>>557010268
Games like this happen because you played too selfishly and either didn't teamfight enough or didn't help lanes enough.
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butt what if i DON'T want to brool icefrog?
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>>557026621
>>557026994
I used to feel the same but then I just started winning
How do you usually build Doorman
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>door man has le wacky epic abilities
>best way to play him is as a save monkey with cart
yep that's a ice fraud champion alright
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>>557027021
do what makes you win and go from there
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this game needs more cc
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>>557023026
4v4 brool is supposed to be a containment zone for people too shit at moba but who still want to play because deadlock blew up on social media
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>>557027570
I don't get to play her enough to experiment and see what makes me win
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Newbie here, just played a game where I physically could not parry heavily telegraphed Billy parries. I can reliably parry other characters, is there something in Billy's kit or an item that interferes?
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>>557023026
i thought the dota arcade was huge that's where the autochess meme blew up
the only game i played there overthrow
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>>557027002
shut up drow ranger
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new player here
i got about 24 hours locked into the game now and am sort of familiar with most concepts, just the hardest part for me is still item building
I have a dota2 background so a lot of items are conceptually familiar
Pretty much exclusively play Holliday because she's fun but I feel like at my noob level i can't really carry games as I scale way too slow. Any recommendations? I was thinking maybe adding cold front early for easy barrel + lasso setups, also surge of power. Thank you for helping, the game has been fun so far besides occasionally being thrown in with people with way more experience than me
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>>557027782
yeah, its called ping. and no, they are not fixing it
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i want a REAL turbo mode instead of brool valve.
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>>557023026
Yes

Unlike Dota, where turbo is still popular btw, Deadlock has a hero shooter aspect to it and hero shooter fags dont mind playing tons of different game modes
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>>557026994
>400 games on a hero
>less than 50% winrate
why would you keep playing him if you are more likely to lose than win despite having so much practice?
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>>557005918
Yeah the macro felt more engaging.
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>yesterday
>close matches here and there
>today
>nothing but stomps, coin flip if you're the one doing the stomping
I don't know what they did to matchmaking today, but revert the changes.
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>>557028030
The macro being mouthbreathers soaking lanes nonstop
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Are they gonna show the total votes and how many individual voters for each stage of the voting after Apollo is out? Did they do that last batch? I stopped playing when Hero Labs was a thing so I missed it until picking it up again with this new batch.
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>>557026331
Dropped
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>>557028143
They never did
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I want to queue but I literally cannot stop farting
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>>557028143
I don't think the votes are actually real, and they're just releasing whoever is the most content ready
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What does "slotlock" mean in guides? I've seen that a bunch
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>>557028049
I wish they'd stop fucking adjusting matchmaking for the worse. Like what retards are they listening to?
>ERM MY MATCHMAKING TOOK A WHOLE FIVE MINUTES, TOO MUCH I JUST GOT OFF MY 16 HOUR SHIFT AT THE BALL CRUSHIN' FACTORY
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>>557028292
when you don't have enough slots so you have no choice but to upgrade the items you have
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>>557028284
If that were true Venator would've been first and Silver would've been last
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>>557027839
adding items to a build like that is hard for a character like holliday because your job is to be active, not to be farming, if you want to add cold front for instance, consider dropping slowing hex if you dont need it in your game(for instance if the enemy has mina, you want slowing hex), SoP is kind of a bait item on holliday since you wont be a true spirit carry with this build unless you are swapping those optionals at the bottom for the main 6ks in your build
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Which OG hero deserves a Celeste-tier polish pass?
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>queuing up with friends
>me and my closest buddy are light inting and trolling each other a bit
>neither of us really noticed our other friend was raging because he's on a 3 loss streak and playing like shit all night
>we're also apart of that loss streak but we're just vibing
>after we lose again the butthurt friend just says he's going to solo queue and leaves
>he proceeds to lose a 46 minute game and then logs off
it's not worth taking it seriously, we're here to have fun man
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>>557028292
When your team is braindead and won't push a single walker so you start upgrading low prio items like juggernaut out of enduring speed or lightning scroll out of mystic slow or something.
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decay on silver
thoughts
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God I wish he was still around so I could allahu akbar straight into lane during street brawl
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>>557028520
street brawl literally has a suicide item
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>>557028470
Paradox 100%

Give her time abilities sone real oomph
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>>557028474
>hops on an anonymous forum to start shit talking the friend he was inconsiderate to
you sound like a shitty friend. you're surprised he dipped?
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>>557028470
Dude all of them outside of idk Dynamo? Most of the spell effects look atrocious on all heroes
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>>557028581
I know
with Wrecker it'd be double hilarious
TWO suicide bombs
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>>557028474
Based butthurt friend. He understands the pain.
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>>557028507
Wouldn't you honestly just be better off buying toxic bullets
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>>557028662
>>557028470
celeste's 2 completely mogs most abilities in the game lmao
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>>557028639
He rages at randoms while the rest of us don't. If you're on he's team he's gonna shit talk you, and you're defending him.
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>>557028805
Yeah it is one of the few abilities that actually look polished and finished
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>>557028838
then all 3 of you are faggots, dont blogpost here again, no one gives a fuck retard
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>>557027478
I prioritize early spirit with rapid recharge and extra spirit just to harrass and kill people with high damage bells in lane. Lately I've been prioritizing bell but I've done cart prio as well.
Then I normally go greens afterward, usually something like counterspell or spirit resilience. sometimes warp stone. Usually get sprint boots early too.
After that I usually get my late game spirit items. What I get depends on the game but its usually something like echo shard, or refresher. Sometimes I go for bell damage like spirit burn. Sometimes I go for vortex just for potential cart plays.
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>>557028864
its the ability that made me realize that were 100% still a year away from open beta
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>>557028415
it's just a build i've copied from someone cause my friend told me the default builds are bad. Thanks for the suggestions tho
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>>557028936
easy, graves
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>>557028474
>>557028838
>friend wants to win
>you grief his game and then shit on him anonymously afterwards
You are a subhuman and I hope you get rob and raped.
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Thank god for overwatch, deadlock is so ass
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>>557028956
if its copied from oses its a good build so your friend did you a solid
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I really hope that when Apollo is released, they do a balance pass for all the characters and nerf Graves into the ground so that I don't have to see her literally every game and play against one of the most obnoxious characters ever made.
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>>557026480
better be silver intercepting...
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>>557028000
because hes fun. Do I need any other reason?
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>>557028978
Wrong general sis
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>>557029001
Thats obviously going to happen
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>>557028957
Ding ding. Tired of seeing these shitters on my team.
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>>557029001
i just want kelvin to be something more than a domebot
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>Standard is 45 minutes long
>Street Brool is entirely random with no semblance of balance or skill
>
Can't I just get a short mode that's actually fun to play? What were they thinking with Street Brawl this shit sucks
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>>557029097
I don't, any time kelvin is good the game is miserable to play.
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>>557005918
4 lane map was more interesting and dare I say fun but 3 lane map is more 'balanced' for actual play.
Personally? Casual mode 8v8, 4 lanes.
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apollobros, don't worry. I'm voting for your boy now
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>faggot sinclair in brool just sitting on rooftop firing his vexing bolt from a mile away
I see now why snipers were brutally tortured anytime they were captured
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>>557025328
Elves and dwarves sure. Orcs are a pass unless they're just lane fodder.

>"ancient" elf character added, talks a lot of trash how elves were noble back in their days and how forests are better
>everyone makes fun of him/her because they use a musket meaning they're a poser that's at most couple hundered years old while talking like they saw the rome fall
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>>557029202
there isn't anyone of the "support tank" archetype besides him
at least make his CC good if he can't be allowed to deal damage, like increasing slow on beam with AP upgrades
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>>557028879
>replies twice
>"i-i don't actually care though
lmao
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>>557010485
Silver is so braindead overpowered when played by someone who isn't an actual retard, though.
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>>557013289
You are retarded console trash
PC games have always been more interesting, always will be.
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>>557026520
Orcs and dwarves yes. Elves no unless they are slaves or minions.
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>>557029458
I am a different person you double digit iq nigger
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>>557028474
"broooo we're just vibin broooo" is pure shitter speak and "it's not that big deal broooo" when you're literally feeding and it's not really funny is pure rage inducing.
That being said I DO have a friend who is full "I'm going to blame the random (and sometimes my friends) for every mistake." and he seethes at fucking helldivers 2 of all games and he's fucking horrible to play as because he never takes any responsibility and just shittalks and gets angry over every game that isn't a win and he's just flat out awful to play pvp games with because he's a raging faggot, and this just doesn't sound like that, this sounds like you being a inting retard and throwing this guys game and going "it's just vibes bro." when called out.
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Are brawlers like Warden and Victor supposed to shit on carries in 1v1s regardless of farm?
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>>557029468
if you don't nuke her out of orbit she turns a fight so hard you are forced to reset with your whole team at best and at worst you get mangled, enemies take rejuv and you lose.
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Apparently Apollo is going to have an execute.
Why?
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Vindicta owes me a footjob
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>10 minutes in
>Team is not doing anything when enemies are chasing a me or a teammate
>Enemies will always arrive the scene very fast whenever one of them gets into a fight
I knew the game is over immediately.
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>>557029591
>apollo has an execute.
So does venator and Shiv.
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>>557029515
>>557029549
Boy you guys are fucking malding. You're 100% the raging tryhard retard friend of the group
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>>557027426
I want to see her be better....
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>>557029591
Another one?
Why the fuck do they keep creating character with execution?
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>>557029685
you couldnt be more wrong, but you are the insufferable retard of your group, thats for fucking sure
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>>557029363
That or some redneck elf.
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What's her appeal?
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>Turn on extra competitive
>Still get people going 2/10
>Next match
>Guy playing venator won't shut up
>Insulting his lane partner while being 1/3
>They both end up feeding Silver and I think the chud was complaining about her being op idk I muted his ass
I'm turning that shit off. Fuck that anon that said you wouldn't get people feeding their ass off.
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>>557029825
I should try Helldibers again
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why is everyone so mean to rem my nigga did nothing wrong he just wants to sleep
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>>557029746
I struck a cord for a reason lil tardbro. You must be aware that your friends talk about you when you aren't around since you had such a visceral reaction
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>>557029857
you have about a week until they nerf the new faction into the ground and the game becomes boring and neutered again
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the new base design definitely made games longer right?
constantly getting 50 minute matches now and it sucks.
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>>557029898
youre projecting because youre an effeminate nigger shit talking your friends on a mongolian basket weaving forum, dont worry you will be friendless soon you absolute fucking waste of skin
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>>557029973
I've known him for 15 years and he buys me video games but I'll be sure to let you know if our friendship suddenly dissolves over a few deadlock matches. Stupid ass lol
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>>557029196
not only that
>Street Brawl has now made a precedent for mode-specific hero balance changes
That's the most ass thing of all.
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>>557028143
>>557028226
>>557028284
they told us the previous 6 hero vote stats, i forgot who said it though
>Nearly 6 million votes were cast in total by the community
>The highest number of votes cast by an individual player was 203
>Billy won with the largest lead at just over 30% of the total votes at the time of his release
>The Doorman and Paige was the closest contest, with only a 0.85% difference in favor of The Doorman
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>>557030043
wow and here I thought only mommy was buying you video games
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>>557029549
From my experience the raging tryhard friend is typically not a better player.
He just has a weaker mind.
They tend to emulate what in their mind makes a good player, but end up going through completely useless motions (useless calls and communication, especially at their level) because they don't actually understand. So they come to the conclusion that the problem must be that he is the only one who "wants to win" and thus they are stuck in "elo hell".
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>>557024819
>we dota chads despise this game
That's no surprise, it's not dota and you homosexuals only play dota
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>>557030085
Yeah turns out you're retarded, who would've guessed!
>>557030105
He is the lowest rank in the group so that tracks
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>>557029453
>least player damage and 0 healing as victor
were you digging in your ass all game???
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>>557030043
>he needs to bum off his friends for games
jobless
>he then proceeds to shit talk said friend because they're upset over something they caused
nigger
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>>557030075
>The highest number of votes cast by an individual player was 203
I wonder what the highest count is now that street brawl lets you farm votes
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>>557030203
It was me and Venator against a Lady Geist and Paige the second I'd get closed I'd get raped.
Also it's my first match.
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I've got it! We create a werewolf character who never transforms into a wolf.
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>>557030229
>he thinks a friend being generous is bumming off of them
boy you guys got some mental issues lel
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>>557030229
its even sadder when you realize hes in his 30s
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>watch streamer playing new heroes
>queues up a custom match with his 1 iq zoomer alchemist viewers
>curbstomps them
>"OMG BRUH THEY'RE LITERALLY OP, YOSHI WTF ARE YOU DOING MAN? NERFS WHEN?"
these are the people who the balance team listen to
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>>557006779
>I do not want to have to neurotically bounce off of walls and abuse every piece of map geometry to gain momentum
So don't then. It's not a requirement for playing the game. There is no game where you have to master every mechanic just to play as much as people like to pretend otherwise. Most people who play video games are ass at them. If you find a skill difficult to learn then congratulations then either you're just ass and need to suck it up OR a lot of other people do too and so they won't bother mastering it either or if they do put effort into learning it that leaves them weaker in other areas for their rank.
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>>557029045
I mean the actual issue is that they didn't sell resto shot for slowing shot. I kinda get their arcane surge + superior duration thing for extra long roots/tombs
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>>557026059
hopital
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>>557030342
wrong again unc lmao
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>>557030326
>pretending you're someone else because everyone in the thread thinks you're a homosexual nigger
LMAO
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>>557030314
>transforms into a werewolf when there's no full moon
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>there are people ITT that defend the shitty balance of this batch of heroes
really wish games didn't rely on overtuning characters with obnoxious kits to generate twitter troon hype
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>>557030342
Yeah the fact he posts at me and insta seethes off post cooldown to you next tells you that you hit the nail on the head with his age there. Imagine a 30 year old 'man' saying unc unironically so he can pretend to be hip. Holy shit.
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>>557027537
But thats not the best way to play Doorman
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>>557027839
>new player on holiday
you probably picked the most difficult character
there's a good chance you are playing her like a retard and trying to shoot your barrels

this is your combo:
>press 2 and fling yourself
>you are now in air and have +100% air control. this is even more than celeste. basically turns deadlock into a counter strike surf server until you touch the ground
>while mid air, look down at an enemy
>1 then light melee (in quick succession)
>the barrel is now flying towards the enemy
>you are also now falling towards the enemy

>you and the barrel hit the ground at the same time
>you (charged with 2) and the barrel both blow up the enemy and do a bunch of damage
>barrels knock up the enemy, stopping their movement
>if you are on flat ground, you should be able to hit a (4) lasso on this knocked up enemy 100% of the time

mix ups:
>use stamina mastery and your +100% air control to hover in the air forever, throwing barrels down
>when an enemy is knocked up with barrel, land a (3) headshot
>when you land on an enemy with 2, press your cold front button for extra damage
>place a jump pad, but don't instantly use it. If you want to go for a lasso combo, you probably want to have jump pad off cooldown to bring them back to your team

items:
>rapid recharge
>stamina mastery
>anything else as long as you hit your 4.8k spikes
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>>557030343
Reminder that these same people cried to get stoneform nerfed and melee damage nerfed on ivy so she can't melee combo anyone.
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>>557030560
I never pretended to be anyone else, what is going on in your mind
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What are your opinions on cultist's? I never see them being bought anymore. Is it still worth to buy when behind?
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I don't understand the "4.8k spike" concept
So you get more value from items if they hit that exact quantity, so what? What useful information does that give me outside of the incredibly obvious "don't randomly buy items from different categories"?
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>>557030635
yeah this dude is pathetic as fuck
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>>557030785
it means you want to have a core set of items with 4.8k in every category and then itemize depending on the enemy/ally team.
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you ever have a game so ass it makes you feel like dropping a hero completely
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>scrolling YouTube shorts
>grim tranny skeleton homunculus eskay's deadlock shorts start showing up
ew
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>>557027537
deadlock has it bad when it comes to the lamest parts of the kit being the meta or popular like (some of these are out of date) like gun viscous, bomb bebop, graves (why is this summoner actually this weird pseudo-melee hero), gun dynamo, gun geist, gun GT, gun ivy...
i'm glad a lot of these are less viable but it pissed me off when a lot of these characters focused on gun because it felt so against how the hero felt like it was intended to be played
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>>557030785
the curve of money-per-stat has a BIG jump when you go from 4000 category investment to 4800 category investment, so for money-per-stat efficiency you should almost always "hit your spikes" before of pouring 20000 into on category
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>>557030785
it means that someone who spent 4.8k in one category is stronger than someone who someone who spent it in 3, are you more scared of a mina running at you with imp spirit, qsr, and cold front, or a mina running at you with hsb, monster rounds, healing rite, extra stam, and qsr
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>>557030785
What are you talking about, the useful information is right there in your post.
>you get more value from items if they hit that exact quantity
When you hit 4.8k investment in a stat the investment bonus you get more than doubles, so you want your early itemization to hit those breakpoints asap, and you want to be aware of whether you or your lane opponent is going to hit them first because whoever does will have a big power advantage.
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>>557030785
>>557030960
honestly before you had to buy 4 gun/spirit/vitality items anyway and then you had 4 flex slots on top of that. they reduced it to 12 slots overall down from 16. this 4.8k spike is just to compensate for that. you're still supposed to be hitting 4.8k spikes in everything. but now that only takes 2 items instead of you going for 4.
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Most entertaining eternus streamers?
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>>557030635
I'm playing street brawl actually so you're wrong yet again (with a friend btw)
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>>557030972
every game i've played as shiv recently
but i don't blame myself, just the fact that he's been nerfed into the ground but still has the reputation as OP so people will shit talk you as if you're playing a S-tier hero and still managing to fuck up when you're playing like a C-tierr hero in a meta full of many spammed S-tiers
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>>557029737
>Why the fuck do they keep creating character with execution?
because shiv/abrams/lash have been perma tier SSS since day 1
now featuring billy
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When the fuck are they nerfing Celeste's level 1 damage
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>>557031063
>gun GT
>gun Ivy
GT was one of the game's two "sniper" characters at launch and Ivy has a really good-feeling gun outside of its mediocre base damage
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>>557031123
ME!
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>>557031063
>gun viscous
this was fun when it was just pre-nerf express shot, then it just became the standard gun build, and now its dead
>bomb bebop
isn't that how he was intended to be played?
>gun GT
>gun ivy
they have gun-boosting abilities. I think these two have a decent balance of spirit:gun builds
>gun dynamo
dead
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>>557031252
ivy is clearly support (heal) coded
gt has cool spirit shit going on even if i admit the dopamine of jumping in the air and then effectively going melee range with multishot feels good
vindicta should be the gun sniper out of the two
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>>557030704
I actually did for one game, thought that it was insanely difficult beyond it being reasonable because there wasn't a crazy big payoff for it, then I watched a video I found where a guy told me to melee the barrel and ever since i had no issue hitting basic barrels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fKPSvcF3fM
I even manage to sometimes dunk people from afar that are running, it's why she is so fun to me to play. Also that was a really good writeup, I fuck up lassos quite a lot when i'm chasing someone down trying to drag them to my team, but using the barrel knockup to guarantee the lasso is so much more reliable.
Also I can see why people call her difficult, I also have a TF2 Background (Spy main) so landing ambassador Heatshots isn't too unfamiliar to me. The only fucked up thing is that bullets have velocity instead of hitscan and that took me a bit to get used to. I also played a ton of CS surfing so the flying movement isn't unfamiliar for me either.
Fun fact I tried to play another hero and I noticed the lack of Jump pad instantly lol
One thing I still have to understand is the 4.8k spikes, it just makes you more powerful? So should I just buy some bullet items too to hit that threshold?
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>>557031259
>literally everyone hates lash
>vyper is a genuine fangirl
What does she see in him?
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They need to delete Grey Talon from the game and have his lore stats that he became a hospitalised vegetable like in anon's old drawings of Grey Talon.
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>>557031275
i think merely having gun boosting abilities isn't enough to make these characters feel like they should be going gun. otherwise we'll start talking about gun pocket and gun dynamo (again)
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>>557031372
Celeste and her carnie friends prefer Lash to Bebop, too.
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>>557030785
retard
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>Victor goes 0/10
>Ask him what's wrong
>"dejame tranquila"
>Look up what that means
>"Leave me alone" and the a at the end implies she's female
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>>557031252
shiv's now dumpster tier, at least
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>>557031465
add her
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>>557031465
>asking what's wrong and not just immediately telling him he's a fucking retard that should uninstall and slit his wrists asap
ngmi
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At what rank can I expect my teammates to actually get sinners within reasonable timeframes(less than 3 minutes on spawns)?
Want to know where I can hop off the carry que express and play at what feels like good enough to me.
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>>557031465
we would all have a lot more sympathy towards our team if we assumed people having a bad game was a sad cute latina
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>>557031262
Name?
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>>557031346
>So should I just buy some bullet items too to hit that threshold?
yeah, i usually just get mystic shot (1600) and cultist sacrifice (3200), but I haven't messed with recharging rush

>lack of jump pad
viscous and lash have a "launch me into the air button"
you can buy magestic leap on anyone
celeste also has air control
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I think we can all agree that Silver (and Celeste, Graves if we're being honest) are a bit shit personality wise. What would you change to make em more interesting?
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>>557031693
This
If it was Ivy behind the wheel of the Warden going 1/12 I'd be more likely to be nice
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Pocket is so nuts in street brawl and still nobody complains about HIM lol. You get like 15 seconds of aids and huge healing reduction in a massive aoe, how is nobody seething about this?
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Do I actually need to know how to air strafe in this game?

I can do walljumps and mantles well enough but I'm not autistic enough for more.
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>>557031743
I'd make Silver more of a rapist, Celeste more of a whore and Graves more of an emo
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>>557031820
my teamates are always half way across the map chasing some shiv, so I don't really care about pocket's AOE
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>>557031820
Oh wait I was wrong my affliction was lasting 22 seconds before reductions (enemy team had none)
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>>557031121
Current system is worse because of how the items are balanced you don't have a lot of choice if your character isn't working well as a hybrid.
Like what the fuck am I supposed to build from gun if I am a spirit nuker? Recharging rush? Spirit shredder? That's 2 items out of 70+
Old system was better in that regard by having more varied passive stat effects.
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Valve thinks Celeste dealing 300 damage in 2 seconds level 1 is balanced btw
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If I'm gonna always be bad with any character I play, is there even a point in playing anyone but the characters I want to play?
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Do you think people will start playing Yamato once she loses the penis head and becomes a sexy yakuza lady?
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>>557031916
None of her abilities do that much damage in that timeframe
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>>557031910
it wasnt a big deal before they gutted cultist
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>>557031987
She can press M1 btw
Idk if you knew that but that's a qucik tip from me free of charge
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horsecock sex
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>>557031978
Yes 100%

The moment Yamato becomes an attractive jap and her skills get polished like the new heroes shes gonna be another sweatlord favorite
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>>557031978
pic unrelated
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>>557027839
>>557030704
>new player picks holliday
This happens a lot and happened to me too, blame Yoshi for making such a misleading character, you'd think she's a straight forward gun character but lol sike
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>>557032032
Yeah and in that timeframe at level 1 she doesn't do that much damage, just fyi dingus bro
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>>557032036
docking cocks in deadlock on my docked steamdeck
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>>557031975
Why would you ever not just play what you find fun? You aren't getting paid to win games
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>>557029453
Switched to the Valve build and started stomping.
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>>557031857
It's not even hard to do, just release your W key while in the air
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>>557032141
>don't press W
bell curve meme
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>team pisses away a 50k lead after dropping their patron
>we lose
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>>557032197
It do be like that sometimes homie
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>>557032089
But will women play her?
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>>557030731
Good, we hate Ivy
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>>557031743
I think Silver's fine. I like her being Vyper, but not as bad
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>>557032089
>her skills get polished
what's wrong with her kit
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>>557031170
I'd rather see Shiv every game instead of Graves.
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>>557032427
I mean animations and feel
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>>557031693
Actually it's fat bitter femcels most of the time
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How the fuck do I itemize against Vindicta
Bitch makes my HP total half of what it actually is
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>>557028474
Your "friend" is right
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>>557029834
>Next game
>Another venator on open mic talking about how he didnt choose this character
My brother in Christ, you made the roster
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>>557032676
spirit shielding, reactive barrier, knockdown
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>>557031170
except he's still a pivotal pick in competitive which is where icefrog actually looks. and no, he's not weak despite pub winrates
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>>557032109
You're not retarded
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Mystic/greater expansion on Abrams 1, yes or no?
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>Celeste and the Patron areas are the minimum level of polish Valve wants for Deadlock

This fucking game is gonna take another year isnt it...
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>>557032719
Is right about? Fucking idiot lol
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>>557033078
Nah just get arcane surge.
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>>557033090
Good. What's the problem?
We got another year of no cancerous monetization.
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i want yamato to KEEP the penis head
turn it into a helmet or something
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anyone saying gun ivy is still viable has shit in their teeth from lunch
she gets bullied in lane because her peashooter does nothing now, and if she's not shooting at creep, she might as well not be shooting at all because all of her damage will be outhealed somehow
getting some semblance of a build requires perfect farm pathing after lane, and even then, you will be outpaced by everyone because they just have better gun scaling
im going back to kudzu until they give her something more effective than the water gun she has now
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>>557031648
bumpin before bed, want a goal to shoot for. Am ritualist atm. I'm sure some will say never but it seems like it happens at some point before eternus.
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>>557005845
>Graves, Paige and Viscous!
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>>557033090
why are you retards so desperate for open beta
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>>557033369
They are third worlders that are desperate for the game to have Steam items
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>>557028474
YTA
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>>557027426
More like the most busted OP hero in the game.
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>>557033372
this is performative, you didnt press the play button.
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>>557033397
Or wannabe streamers who want to capitalize on a new big streaming game
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>>557033486
>you're the alpha
thanks
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>>557031978
Troon-coded design
Hopefully her big hat design is real and this shit never sees the light of day
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>silvers are just going glass cannon rush because the hero is broken enough where it doesn't give half a shit about the "debuff" and can assassinate anyone in 1 second
lol
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>>557033841
No character is impacted by the max hp penalty.
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give us gun rapier ice fraud you COWARD
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>>557033951
Sorry cucky you have to wait like the rest
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even though I didnt put a single vote into apollo Im gonna put a token on him the minute he comes out and cuck a loyal apollo voter
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Why the fuck does Celeste's 2 completely mog every skill in this game?

It's like three tiers higher in quality.
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>>557031987
3+1+2x LMB =~ 320 damage on level 2
and you also got a lingering 1 buff to exploit for the next 9-10s

1200 souls is about one and a half minutes in from match start.
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>>557033951
?
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>>557034124
That's not level 1
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>>557034195
well, im nta, so it is what it is
the char still does too much damage overall while having free holliday mobility
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>>557010659
have traps turn invisible after a short period and readd the tankiness he had over dev done also nerf seven for no reason again
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Mo and Krill feels so useless in lane in this meta
Like what's the point of sandblast if 90% of what you're dealing with is spirit
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>>557034420
everyone uses their gun in lane lil nigga, certified mo and krill post
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I wish we could have a character that builds stuff and fortifies his lane in some way but I guess the game is too pushing oriented for that to work.
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>>557010659
Buff his gun
Lower the cooldown on his 2
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>>557034420
they could give him a -spirit debuff on it, i don't think we have any of those on any base char kit, no?
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>>557034420
It's impossible to die in lane before ults as mo. What more could you want
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>>557033841
She's unironically the calico/mina of this patch.
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>>557034558
I wanna brool
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>>557033908
and other things alchemists say
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>>557034509
Infernus, you porch monkey
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>>557034506
techies come back
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>>557012840
shoved all 3 non ult abilities up his ass as pocket and it literally didn't do anything hope drifter kills that old fuck
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>>557034509
the fact that you could even dream of giving this to mo and krill is proof that the mo and krill playerbase is completely delusional and retarded
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>>557034506
I wish we could have literally anything unique. Every character is the same. Look at venator/vindicta, we're already making clone heroes. And there are so many other abilities that are similar af. This game will never be unique like dota 2 it feels like such slop. Even the hero designs are starting to look generic
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You retards sure throw the word retard around a lot
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Niggas get "NOW MAURICE'd" one time and think Mo and Krill deserve to be unusable garbage
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>silverfags still think their braindead furslop waifu is not OP
lol
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>>557034120
>chunky barrier + move speed + aoe silence (4 seconds at max)
disgusting ability to add to her already overtuned kit, no chance it makes it past the next hotfix untouched
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>>557034731
real recognize real
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>>557034587
i was thinking -spirit as in stat, not a -%spirit damage.

>>557034671
if kelvin can't have buffs then i will make you seethe by suggesting buffs to other chars
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>>557010659
Put him into overwatch (formerly overwatch 2) they'll make him actually fun unlike deadgamefloplock
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>>557034795
Theyll make him gay like s76 lmao
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>>557034506
mcguiness forgotten...
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>>557018764
you didnt filter the match ID dumbass, I'll see you when your match is available TOMORROW
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>>557010659
Make the wall stun hitbox a little more generous
The amount of times I've seen someone slide off a wall and it didn't allow me to capitalize is insane
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>>557034883
mcG ult still useless
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food is cooked time to afk in street brawl for tokens and hope nobody notices
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>>557034742
it's just silence bro just punch the unicorn lady
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>>557034902
>Giga farm ult to go with ultra jungle rape kit is le useless
Yikes
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They just need to buff venators shotgun (lower cd and longer pushback range) and make it so that his traps cant be shot

The guy is on thw brinj of becoming oppressive
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Mina should've been a white woman instead of a dog eating gook.
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>>557034991
enemies refuse to unbind the parry key after abrams incident
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when is the joongle update ice toad
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>>557028474
Damn zaza plays deadlock?
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>>557035014
Shut the fuck up you filthy touhou tranny
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>>557035014
Keep spittin yo shit mah /jp/ brotha
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>>557035014
We do need a gothic lolita hero though
Or an alice in wonderland rep
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Why yes I do buy Stamina Mastery and Enduring Speed every game on every character, how could you tell?
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We need the hotel manager from the other haunted hotel to show up and have a Halloween event with The Doorman like Blutarch vs Redmann
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>>557035187
when you slammed me for 200 and missed your flog
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They should add a rival bartender character to have a bartender event with Infernus like reddit fortress!
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you can ping infinitely in street brool if you time it right and make the ding noises over and over to drive people insane
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>>557035265
There's nothing to even remotely conclude that a rival bar exists, are you retarded?
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>>557035265
a rival? like from marvel rivals, the better game?
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>>557034868
He already is though
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>>557035014
>Mina should've been a white woman instead of a dog eating gook.
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>>557032270
Girls love to play boys in Genshin, game needs male characters made for the female gaze...
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>>557035403
>Sodom will burn
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>>557035403
You wish tranny
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>>557035314
There's only one bar in the entirety of New York City?
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>>557035505
mindbroken
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wait you dont have to do the Q melee in silver wolf form and can attack normally? maybe others dont know this either and that's why her winrate is so low
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>>557035564
You spam your shit every day but I'm the mindbroken one
Kill yourself
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>>557034883
She's my main(albeit I started only recently), but I wish we could have more. I want to build a wall that won't expire in 5 seconds, I want to build a dispenser, or maybe have some dome shield deployable that blocks gunfire both ways but heals you, or a barricade.

Or heck, since Doorman shown us additional space isn't a problem I'd like an ult that opens a portal to some sort of conpact space, a house with a few rooms with a shop, healing zone and a room with a two way window that's too small to jump through but big enough to fire out of and into or something like that, like a hammerspace builder or some magician that transforms a dollhouse. Or some different sort of deployable bunker.
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>>557035458
Maybe but that's' not really their style.
Are there any dota heroes that fit that description?
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>>557035605
schizo
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>>557035683
Tranny cope
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>>557035014
Get a job nigga
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>>557033841
then rush a disarm retard
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>>557035738
>>557035738
>>557035738
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>>557035643
I saw lots of porn of this character.
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>>557035553
>If I reach hard enough he'll bite!
Stop being a dumbass you know how retarded you sound
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>>557035643
speaking of axe, were they gonna grab jon st. john for a hero?
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>>557029425
dynamo has the 2nd highest HP growth rate in the game
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>>557034135
My wife who is stuck in a dead tv show
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>>557026887
Kino, could make it the pit lash and bebop fight in but I think that's meant to be in Coney Island
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>>557035458
That's literally Apollo. His design is straight woman core.
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>>557035458
>game needs male characters made for the female gaze...
Drifter is by far the most coomed over character among women
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>>557032108
Don't think i'm doing terrible
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YOSHIIIII STOP MATCHING ME AGAINST REFRESHER GRAVES
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how can someone have 40k souls in 21 minutes
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>>557029004
no, that's a perfectly legitimate reason.
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>>557034706
>literally anything unique.
>Every character is the same.
>Look at venator/vindicta, we're already making clone heroes
as this nigga ignores that so many heroes share abilities in dota.
lion and nyx both had the exact same spell for so fucking long for example.
they are not as unique as you make them out to be when you look at them at an ability to ability comparison rather than their whole kit.
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>>557021674
abrams, ivy and The LashTM, but abrams first and foremost
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>>557011654
cute retard
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>>557031743
first and foremost her voicelines need to be completely rewritten, but truth be told she could also use a completely different voice actress and, preferably, rewritten (or at the very least expanded) lore.
fuck, even her face is boring, shes just a barbie doll with a tail and animal ears...
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>>557045113
Is it hard being gay?



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