Loadsamoney Edition>Previous>>557014585>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSJan 22 Redacted Regiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvwvsJRSKkFeb 03 Siege Breakers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9E9-iGwK_4Feb 03 Galactic Offensive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ZVYxDgbM0Feb 04 A Bastion of Freedom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ZhrAP7k6YFeb 10 Machinery of Oppression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5JS68ny14>LATEST PATCHESFeb 03 1.006.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/506226349467240138Feb 10 1.006.003 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541129880857741482
>>557037936
>wrong image>forgot to change the editionfuck it, you guys don't deserve better anyway
I really don't like that we don't get told what killed us now. I have been killed by some mystery projectile so many times and it annoys me that I can't tell what it is.
>>557038098What do you expect from a Cadet?
>>557038098>109 kills in just 1 shotHe's a fucking elite
>>557038098>what happened herewas what i meant to post, i did shot a lot
Has anyone found SC on cyberstan yet? After playing all day with the arrow mod I literally have found 0. I get in lore there wouldn't be any there but for gameplay purposes getting nothing for playing hard ass d10 cyberstan missions is evil
>>557038098dude's a chuck norris joke
Why are cyborg heads so easy to hit compared to devastators?
>>557037936KAMEN DIVER - DEMOCRATIC DELIVERER OF JUSTICEPREPARE YOURSELVES, MECHANICAL SERVANTS OF EVIL
>>557038319because>they have lots of health>they buff the bots around them>they have AI that makes them take cover and hideif they were hard to hit people would get overrun by them
>be the breaker>dps auto shotty>not that great but still a nice niche but suddenly>trident releases>infinite ammo, more damage per shot, better spread, no damage fall offcongrats on better durable damage or something i guess?
There's just something special about shooting human enemies for a change. Nothing else like it.
>>557038589>>not that great but still a nice nicheBreaker was on practically every loadout at one point, it was the best weapon by farIf you know this it explains everything
What's a build to best utilize shields?
>>557038763yeah but the game evolved way beyond it, it needed help but all they did was give it back its 3 rounds of ammunition per mag, still had a use as a DPS pump if you wanted it for that but now we have it but better
>lobby crashed as the shuttle was landing, after a heroic point defenseAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEgg lads
>crashed on the final extract just as pelican arrivedOk, fuck you too game. ggs.
>>557038454read as>MECHANICAL SERVANTS OF JOEL
Muscular Cyborg mummy doko? UwU
Rephrasing: >What is the best way of playing to maximize the amount of shields I can use and still be an effective play style? Directional shieldShield packShield relayBallistic shieldShield grenadesWhat are my best setups
>>557038847sentries, LC, HMGE
Oh, so there's no reason to dive on cyberstan at all? No caches of SC? No medals from downed divers? Nothing? Give me 1 reason to actually play this "content"
>>557038686>cyborgs>humanBut it's practically the same armature and physics simulation as a metal skeleman robot, what makes added flesh on top of it so special?>>557038927We all knew it was over, but the game cutting it short early was rather rude.
>>557039126>Shield pack>Shield relay>Shield grenadesthese probably, both pack and grenade are highly effective, the relay has a very short cooldown and can be useful both to defend and to draw agro
>>557039240what about playing a videogame you fucking MUH INCENTIVE tard
>>557039368Uh, what's the fail state exactly? Not clearing a mission? Don't act like any of you actually have trouble clearing these dogshit missions. Sure you might die a couple more times than usual, but is there an actual challenge in the solved endgame? Helldivers 2 has always given me the vibe ever since a couple months after launch that it's children pretending the game is hard, that there's meta, that there's strategy, when the game is piss easy
>>557038728The voteless are so fucking terrible. Just replace them with the smaller shielded tripods and make this zombie shit a subfaction. And give the overseers shields instead of the peeling armor mechanic goddamn they're afraid to actually implement the illuminates unique mechanics.
>>557038847To shield hellbombs for important objectives like gunship fabricators. NOTE: Make sure to line your timing up so that you toss the hellbomb before the shield. Wait a few seconds and line it up so that the shield drops down as soon as the hellbomb starts to pop out, that way your shield offers maximum protection as opposed to being damaged by the hellbomb if you toss the shield and it activates first. Also, when I see a teammate toss a shield to fight a bot drop, I try to toss mine outside the first shield in the direction away from the bot drop (putting the first shield between the bot drop and mine). The first shield shields the second, and when it's overrun or popped the second one is right there to fall back too. >>557039126Oh I thought you meant the free relay. I dunno then.
>>557038196Why would there be Super Earth™ Super Credits™ in Cyberstan megacities, ~2 years after the automatons took over and turned them into massive factories? Maybe if they do non-city missions we'll see some out in the wilderness, but it makes no sense in cities.
>>557039502Counterfeit super credits factory.
>>557039502There are some buildings that have an MG and I saw some sort of storage pit with a scythe in it.
>>557038589Breaker is a victim of Alexus and early Arrohead balance. It could never recover. Back then instead of buffing the weak guns they nerfed the strong ones.
>>557039451>it's another NEET pretends like he's top shit for nolifing a game episodeYeah yeah, back to /coopg/ with you to carry on about auric vs havoc.
wait cyberstan has a minimum difficulty of 4? that's super funnydid oshaune have that?
>>557039451>there an actual challenge in the solved endgameis this a shitpost? do you understand what fun is?
>>557039243>Cuck packDid you bring your change of diapers and pacifier?
>>557039704d1-d3 have reduced mapsize and their mapgen probably didn't work for thatwho cares anyway, d8 is the tutorial difficulty, anything below might as well not exist
>>557039502>>557039562>collect super valuable intel mcguffin item>super earth quartermasters pay you out 10 sc automatically
>>557039627>>557039725So... no argument?
>>557039814im not arguing with a subhuman
>>557039729>/hdg/ now thinks supply pack is ez mode when it used to be bubble shieldah the death knell of a game, artificial difficulty, 'you didn't really beat it' cope etc
>press quickplay>end up in a +200ping lobby with sonypony hostand here I thought quickplay meant it'd pick the best match.
>>557039502Who cares, they need to be less stingy with the sc when there are this many warbonds now out.
>bastion only has 15 ammo for the main gunWhat? Why?
>>557039907Bubble shield was never easymode. The only reason to make fun of it is that it doesn't protect you better than any strategem that would just kill your enemies.
>>557039984>nearly $150 for all the warbonds at this point
>>557039729tough talk for a guy that wasn't therenigger>>557039243this entire round was KINEMA personified, btw
>>557040019it was never ez mode on bots but it was ez mode on bugs (and probably still is)
>>55704000750% reduced ammo modifier on Cyberstan, should have 30 on other planets just fine
>>557040019For quite a long time post-launch bubble shield was considered THE must-have backpack, especially on bugsIt was a different era
>>557040153You only have like 8 slots of gear, you cant even fill your loadout with gear from every warbond, by limitation of loadout slots you dont need all of them. And most of them bad.
WHY DOES THE TOP OF THE VOX ENGINE BLOCK THE HATCH?Did no one at arrowhead try fighting one solo to see if this shit even worked ?
>>557040317>bubble: ACTIVE>railgun unsafe mode: ON>breaker: INCENDIARY>eeeeeyup... it's gamin' time.good times
>>557040440UH OH THERMY USING GETTING KEKED BY THE LIP OF THE HOLE LMAO
i held out for a very long time but the supply backpack really is the best backpack in the game that its worth giving up an entire strategem slot just to have it. backpack support weapons arent worth using, mobility ones are competitive but not as strong. Cyberstan broke me into a supply crutch user
>>557040626Nigga just go stealth + C4 + regular frags and walk all over these bases. I love dynamite but the extra two frags is way too handy for dealing with bot spawners.
>>557040705I prefer fighting my enemies and the supply pack has been the strongest option for letting me actually do that on this planet.
>>557040626>backpack support weapons arent worth usingbro your C4??bro your RR??bro your PBH??bro your Jump-Pack??
>install railgun mod that makes the reticle not a giant fuck off green dot>realize how much fucking sway the big dot was hiding
>>557040327>most of them badOverall? Sure I could perhaps pay that, but the worst part about it is that most 'bonds have 1-2 interesting things. If you want to experience all the cool stuff this game has to offer at this stage you're either grinding for ages or forking out $$$. They need to be less stingy with sc.
>>557040626Me and friend run the boomer load-out from the first game. He runs RR and supply backpack I run RR backpack and MG, then do assisted reload. The only thing I don't like with assisted reload is the jank if you stand on a 3 degree incline, and it refuses to fucking load the RR
>>557039243Because they're not automated machines, or unknowable aliens, or retarded bugs. They think and bleed the same as the Helldivers we play as. They're just dudes who want to live and be left alone and they get killed for it. I think that rules.
>pop the 2 heat sinks on the back of a vox engine>vent doesnt openam I missing more heat sinks?
>>557041014One underneath the body, you have to grenade it or get under.
>>557041014There's 2 sets of 3. The top ones kinda look like a face. The bottom ones are 2 on the sides on the back and 1 under.
>>557040212Yes of course. Why not.
>>557040626it's only good on cyberstan because it has scarce ammo like old bot missions used to beoverall guard dog remains the strongest backpack
>>557040626The only reason the supply pack is as strong as it is is because every single weapon starts with next to no ammo. Every stratagem weapon basically needs it's ammo reserves doubled, but swedes are retarded.
>game throws so many vox engines at you that I run out of crutches like ultimatum/thermite for themfug!
>>557040974>They're just dudes who want to live and be left alone and they get killed for itYou really believe that?
>>557041136Guard Dog + 500KG + Solo Silo + Leveller is probably the most braindead brute force strat build.
>>557039729Do you enjoy this?
C4 is very fun but holy fuck is it janky to use.>sometimes have to "reload" the C4>often doesn't change "firing mode"Why on earth wouldn't it just be "reload" for detonate? god swedes are so dumb.
>>557039502>game explicitly rewards tedious farming and explicitly punishes playing the harder (i.e. more engaging) missions/planets/content>everyone still defends the SC system because "well you don't HAVE to pay money, you can get them just from playing!">release huge content update>impossible to get [currency] by playing>complain about it while EXPLICITLY "inb4 lore bullshit"-ing>lore bullshit 0 reading comp dipshit response>almost everyone replying arguing the retarded lore point
>>557041362>Why on earth wouldn't it just be "reload" for detonate?That's how it was in the 1st game. If only they played it...
>vox lower hatch is sharply angled>requires an extremely precise throw >if the vox is even slightly elevated this throw becomes impossible
>>557040932The fact that they allow 'farming' at all is insanity in this day and age of paid content. Arguably, they encourage farming by making it possible on low difficulties.
>>557040974That makes sense, I hadn't considered that angle. A lot of the appeal to me about Helldivers 2 was that there weren't any humans to fight, there's enough of that in other games and it was a nice change of pace (nevermind dissidents executed offscreen, or all the Helldivers 1 I played).
>>557041291Well... now they're understandably out for vengeance more than anything, but that was their original goal before getting enslaved for 100 years. So I guess I should have used past tense there.Still, they're human, despite the severe augmentations and "no true scotsman" memes.
Hilarious to me how even though this update has some jank to it, it's still a million times better than Into the Unjust.
>>557041479most raped post itt award
Every content cycle in this game is the same>People use meta to beat challenges or they get nerfed>People get bored and stop using meta to challenge themselves>New content drops>People "rediscover" the meta, berate others for not being smart like them and using the meta, even getting mad and arguing ITT
>>557041362>>557041420Can't be because if you get ragdolled you randomly lose (put back?) your c4 in your hand and need to "reload" to get a c4 ready to use.And yes if you go to throw c4 at something without it "reloaded" because it's like a pixel if you're looking at your character from the back you do nothing and in your .4 seconds of confusion over why your button isn't working you get instakilled by something.
>>557041650T minus 1 day until people are using plasma/laser weapons, RR, and spamming sentries
Should just be press 5 to detonate c4
>>557041668>in your .4 seconds of confusion over why your button isn't working you get instakilled by somethingThat's my diving into a firing position and waiting for a crosshair to appear
>>557039502>Why would there be Super Earth™ Super Credits™ in Cyberstan megacitiesSO THAT I CAN TAKE PART IN THE CURRENT ONGOING EVENT AND STILL EARN SC U FAGGGOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT
>have never farmed for SC>have never used cheats or cheat lobbies>have ~1200 hours of time over 2 years>have bought every warbond since launch with natural SCDont have to be payfag, just have to enjoy the video game.
>>5570417715 button is severely underused. why can't I sheath/toggle my shields, or recall a dog?
>>557041859This nigga played hd2 as a full time job
>>557041859>this nigga pretends playing diff1 is fun
>>557041859That's because of the 1200 hours, anon.For returning divelets with a backlog of warbands it's not so nice.
>>557041887>or recall a dogAnon, I...
>>5570418875 infact recalls dogs these days. Or at least should unless something got cooked in code recently
>>557041859I don't buy this, I have 200 more hours than you and there's no way i've even gotten close to the required SC just by playan
>>557041859>~1200 hours of time over 2 yearsSo you're a NEET? That's not a natural amount of playtime friendo
>>557041964>>557041983wait I can? I'll admit I haven't used them in forever cause the backpacks are ugly. fine, my shield point still stands.
I managed to hit level 15 yesterday. Is there any reason to use Expendable Anti-Tank over commando? Also I followed recommendation from yesterday and tried using recoilless rifle but it only had one shot and reloading it kept having my guy ask for ally reload.
>>557042014That's less than one operation a day
>>557042005Easily possible with sc arrow mod, i remember having that on and when squids first dropped the mini urban maps they added were rich in sc. I "farmed" like 3400 sc in 2 weeks during squigger hype high due to arrows. They did downtune sc rates after though
>>557042112Eat is better on bugs than commando. Commando is solid and competitive on bots with eat. Also on Recoilless grab your backpack on otherside of the pod
>>557042018yeah shield toggle would be a fun mechanic
>>557041859This is 50 days of playtime btw. But that would assume playing all 24 hours. Another way to think of it would be 100 days, 12 hour shifts of helldivers. Normies don't do this, surprisingly enough.If I was AH I would just make it so you get SC for completing objectives. Why make it random? Shit is retarded. Even if it was for completing objectives, you'd still get way less than the current method of farming and quitting. Plus it would reward good players (who already have 1200 hours and every warbond and know how to farm) but then normgroid players could actually get more than like 2 of the 15 warbonds.+ make it like if you clear a whole map you get 20 SC so you're rewarded for being better.
Let’s have an honest discussion here:>Do ragdolls add anything to the game? >Do you feel as if the game would be less difficult, or simply less frustrating, if ragdolls were removed from the game? >Is the mechanic a positive aspect of the game or should it be removed or replaced with an alternative CC effect on the player?
>>557042327though i guess that's kinda the point of directional shield in a way
>>557041743I already tried lasers, and both the scythe and LC are terrible against cyborgs even if you aim for the head
>>557042358Ragdolls wouldnt be as bad if you had immunity for a bit after initial one for several seconds even, being chaindolled is my issue. Thatd be too magic for AH though
>>5570418591. you're lying, straight up2. you play diff 1-4 for those countless hours3. as per above - you did most of it using basic, non-warbond weapons, or weapons from the same warbond over and over and overyou're brown, you're a nigger, and you're ragebaiting for attention. I'm feeling pitiful today, have a (You) .
>yesterday it took 2 C4's per Vox>now it takes 3Well.Guess we're supposed to just ultimatum + supply pack like all the leet gamers.
>>557041524>but that was their original goal before getting enslaved for 100 years.If that's to believed in, yes. But everyone have a incentive to lie and pretend to be a victim.
>>557042358Yes I think watching the explosions send my diver flailing through the air is fun and adds to my perception of their danger.It would definitely be easier without ragdolling, of course.I think it's positive overall. Could be improved with some lighter falls being more controlled instead of your diver just going limp, but definitely not removed. Honestly they're such an integral part of the game for me that I never would have considered an idea of not having them. Your divers being subject to the game physics grounds them and adds to the faux milsim vibe the swedes are going for.
>>557042336Normgroids are the ones that keep them in business lol, why would they give them anything free and easily? People who play alot get everything free because they have the hours, poors get everything for free because they will never pay anyway so they have the farm option, normies gotta pay up to keep the lights on.
>>557042358If they removed ragdolls from the game I wouldn't miss them. They add nothing to the game.
>>557042119>one a day>for two yearsSo you have no full time job? Or is HD2 the only game we're playing for 2+ years? Not sure which is worse.
>>557042627It never took two, you hit a weakened one.
>>557042358Ragdolls are genuinely fine, and fun. The only issue that still persists with them is physics jank killing people. Better put: ragdolls are fun when you live, but feel like SHIT when you die, especially to an extended ragdoll. If they wanted to make it better they should give you like 80% explosion and physics damage resist during a ragdoll - which I'm pretty sure they did because a while back the jank ragdoll deaths just stopped happening to me and these days I survive getting launched into walls that would have killed me 2x over last year.When I know stealth is off the table I run democracy protects so even when ragdolling gets super crazy I can still have that 50/50 I live. It unironically perfects the mechanic.
The leveller should have 2 shots and be reloadable. It should be a support weapon version of the ultimatum with slightly longer range with a longer cooldown. No backpack. That's all it needs.
I think the most frustrating part of this update is having your team go through all the reinforcements in 5 minutes and then finally when I die there's none left.
>use my cooldowns to kill 2 vox>2 more vox spawn out of thin air in front of meThis really is just Leviathan 2.0, huh Sweden.
>>557041859lmaoing @ the seething browns that got got by this.
>>557042720No it definitely only took two.
>>557042750Shit take.
>vox gets dropped on top of a factory
How many RR hits to kill a vox nigger?
>>557042695what dipshit brought the frv lmao
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN
>>557042358Ragdolls while sometimes annoying can also be very funny even if something bad happens as a result which helps alleviate the frustrating parts. If there were some other kind of CC that wasn't as occasionally amusing, it would be just be frustrating every time and lead to a worse overall experience. Even with their negatives, I'd rather keep them than gamble on a potential different kind of CC.
>>5570429272 if you hit back vents, 3 if you hit head.
>>557038454extremely basedsentai collab WHEN
>>557042648Just saying only my 500 hour friends actually farm. None of my normgroid friends, even ones who play the game a decent bit, have bought anything and they just bite the bullet of having 1-2 warbonds, even now.IMO if they let SC be more attainable through objective means - as opposed to luck - it would increase player investment in those fair-weather types. Those friends of mine LOCK IN when they have a warbond and are earning medals to unlock something, but otherwise don't really care about anything because there's no other progression in the game.Psychologically speaking, generosity actually increases the liklihood that people buy because they feel they're getting a good deal. Stinginess has the opposite effect, because people (whites anyway, the prime demographic) are reciprocal. This is why even super jewy games with battlepasses still give you free rewards.
>>557043019>Ragdolls while sometimes annoying can also be very funnyget back to working on the APC sven
>>557042927Run in and toss a grenade in the vent you RRcuck, do you get other men to fuck your wife because you're scared of getting in melee range of her?
>>557042637What's there not to believe? They wanted to secede from Super Earth and live in their robo socialist state. This was originally begrudgingly allowed by SE. The war was sparked because of a terrorist bomb attack carried out by a "cybernetically enhanced individual". Anybody who questioned the narrative got killed or dissapeared in typical SE fashion. It's not exactly nuanced storytelling.
>>557042986it was a d10 and the jeep actually did pretty well.
>>557042868mega factories really fuck with the transport pelican
>>557042648>People who play alot get everything free because they have the hourstoo bad playing the new content always seems to mean you don't get SC
Lobby doko
>>557043056But they literally are generous. Comparatively speaking, every other live service has a premium shop filled with pay-2-win, pay-2-notplay, pay-2-progres, pay-2-dressup, and every other kind of pay-for-content.
>>557042358Ragdolling is a teaching method to players to discourage them from behaviors that lead to ragdolling without outright killing them and having the player waiting for a respawn. I view ragdolling as a mini-respawn/downed state similar to how divers could get downed and then helped back up by teammates in the first game. In theory, like in the first game, you would see a teammate get "downed" by a ragdoll, and then maneuver to protect them/stim while they recover. In practice, this doesn't work because of egregious desync making it so that players warp all over the place in perspective to each other when they do get bonked about by ragdolling physics attacks. And even my second point of ragdolling as a mini-respawn I'll go ahead and shoot myself in the foot by saying it seems kind of redundant with how low respawn time is anyways (teammates not noticing if you're dead or not aside).I feel like the game would lose a lot of it's, "Playing as a background mook without plot armor," identity if ragdolling were removed. Ragdolling is still frustrating, rage inducing even. But I wouldn't want it gone, or toned down. The first alternative to ragdolling I can think of is just changing that attack to something that just kills the player, and then giving everyone infinite respawns like in the first game, and the failstate being a squadwipe instead of having a reinforcement budget.
Are there even SC on Cyberstan? I don't think I picked up a single one yet. Even when I find a poi it's usually completly empty.
>>557042775What is worse is some scrub using all the revives then quitting the game. Fucking shitters man.
>>557042640>Your divers being subject to the game physics grounds them and adds to the faux milsimI just wish the same could be applied to enemies as well.
you know what? I'm doing it. I'm lowering the difficulty.
>>557042261>Also on Recoilless grab your backpack on otherside of the podOh, I think I wasn't doing that. Thank you.
>>557043525Based. Spread the message.
>>557043525
>>557043384This but unironically, they are scared of rocking the boat with the SC farming. Most other GaaS slop don't let you farm premium currency at all, and the rate in which you can farm SC is pretty fast.
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>>557042861Nope, it was 3 yesterday and 3 today.
>angled foregrip adds 25 fucking vertical recoil to the JAR when the ironsights add none for the same ergo benefitswedes.
>>557043606How are you going to tell me that when I’ve been using the C4 from the very beginning? I have tapes.
>>557041859thats cooli went to the park with my son and daughterwe had tons of fun
>>557043525Make sure you wear your chastity cage and anal beads.
>>557043589Reduce the level of challenge.
>>557043525too bad vox engines spawn as often on D8 as on D10the only way to escape them is to go to D7 where they don't spawn at all.Their spawnrates seems genuinely bugged
robbi doki
>>557043208>dropping cyberstan>perfect connection>english speakers on the mic>no moonrunes anywhere>allies all helpful with team loads and sharing suppliesWere AH based all along? have they created the great filter to gatekeep the poors? Get back to the SC mines on Marfark or whatever shithole, the 1st worlders have content to experience.
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>>557043706I really wish they didn't hog the spawnrate like that. I saw 1 (ONE) tank yesterday. And no Factory Striders.
>>557043681>his life and time no longer belongs to himdad gamers will really try to spin this as a good thing
So is this really it? Where are the upgrades for the ship. No new ranks, nothing to spend samples on, no new weapon customization. I know we got the tank but it sucks ass. Do we just bang our heads against cyberstan for a 3 months?
>the Vox Machines are piloted by borgsI will now play your vent minigame.
>>557043893No idiot, they will drip feed more content in a week or so.
>>557043893soon™
>>557043918>they can eject when the vox is kill>but they die instantly anywaywhat's the point
>>557043893>Do we just bang our heads against cyberstan for a 3 months?Nigga, we only have enough reinforcements for 4 days
>>557043998Having the borg crawl out was beyond AH's capability.
>>557043116What's there not to believe? Again both have the insensitive to lie. It is not that hard to say something honest and lie at the same time. Yes the lore says they wanted to secede from SE and followed socialism. But who tells the truth? Probably neither. Also the bombing could've been carried out by SE or cyborgs themselves. The whole point of this is to obfuscate the truth. With propaganda from both sides>It's not exactly nuanced storytelling.It is always a matter of perspective.
>>557043525RAPE THIS MAN
I love Super Earth!!!
>>55704338490% of the content HD2 releases is warbond content. Sometimes new enemies or biomes, but mostly it's warbonds.Comparatively a lot of other games I can think of release content in such a way that it's all accessible to everyone. New gun(s) released? New characters? They're in the game. Equip them or play with them or whatever. Yes, for those games it'll be superfluous cosmetics that cost money and they'll be more stingy with their currency than SC farming is... but that's just cosmetic stuff.So you can say they're more generous with their currency than other games - technically true - but many games are more generous with what they give you for free vs ask you to buy. The hurdle is just in a different spot for HD2, and honestly they wouldn't have been able to make it work any stingier than it is because it is a hastily made, slowly/lazily/swiggerly developed, pve game. Bear in mind it's not even a f2p game, which many games with seemingly more aggressive monetization are, for that reason.I'm a fucking 900 hour chud so I'm fine. I'm just saying for my friends I play with it'd be cool if we didn't have to schedule an hour farming session every now and again for them to unlock new guns. It could still be slow enough people would spend real money to skip it, but it's currently stingy enough I notice (anecdotally) people don't even feel invested enough to buy SC. P.S. fucking gambling/poker sites give you free chips to play with daily. It's called getting players invested and yes it does increase retention and spending.
>>557043589>brownoid completely buck broken by 3 wordsEl Oh El
>354 hours>have all warbonds>havent spent a dime>because i joined a chinese lobby that spawned SC for hoursthanks my yellow friends
>>557043918>the whole pilot capsule ejects when you kill the vox>it's just a doodad and you can't even shoot the pilotlame and gay, as expected from AH
>>557043893How do people think the tank sucks ass?Do they just not play with good players?
>>557044185>trying to change the narrative Its you browns that keep spamming lower the difficulty
>>557042847Unlike Leviathan on release, they don't randomly 1 shot you from across the planet with pinpoint accuracy and no telegraphing. I think Vox are fine compared to them, but they do need to either spawn in smaller numbers or be a bit easier to kill with stratagems.
i shall downgrade the hardness of the missions
>>557043893Tank is insanely good on cyberstan btw, just the ammo debuff sucks. Was ass against mega hulks and mid against mega devs.But yeah no new weapon customization NEVER EVER because swigs joined some randos games and noticed none of them used the retarded useless attachments they added that raped your ergo so they concluded that the weapons customization was a waste of their precious dev time.
>>557044083hot
>>557044382> But yeah no new weapon customization NEVER EVER because swigs joined some randos games and noticed none of them used the retarded useless attachments they added that raped your ergo so they concluded that the weapons customization was a waste of their precious dev time.Elaborate. Did this really happen?
>>557044371How loud did the swiggers laugh to themselves when they coded this do you guys think?Because this is PEAK friggin epic and random lulz comedy gotta say. LOL... BONK!!!! HUEHUEHUE
>>557044139Why dont you trade stratgem's with your friends? Buddy 1 wants to try out the BFGL, so bring it for him and he can give you an RR. Buddy 2 wants to try the Trident, shoot him in the head and pick up his libpen, he can respawn and grab your trident. You are suggestng they turn HD2 into some lootbox gambling gatcha roll slop for the sake of your normie ass friends getting some free pixels.
>>557044535the steam pipe noises and the plumes of steam as it rockets off are detrimentally cartoonish
I can't wait to see the devs do a livestream of them fighting six vox engines at the same time on D10, surely it will happen, right?
>>557044468I forget if it was them talking in their discord or in a dev talk or blogpost or something. Perhaps someone with a better memory of it can correct me if I'm wrong tho.
I LOOOOOOOOVE CYBERSTAN AND I LOOOOOOOOOOVE KILLING CLANKERSwhere is the damn siege breakers slop shop stuff, arrowhead
>>557044637best you'll get is D4
>>557044637i swear you guys whine so muchsix is nothing with the broken OP stratagems we have in game
>everyone's strategy seems to be to just run away from the vox>result is a vox camping every street corner no less than 10min into the mission
I will simply 500kg the Vox.
>>557044862What's wrong Niklas? Don't want to show us how it's DONE?
>>557044597We do that, but people die too often and lose their shit enough that trading strats can be obnoxious, much less trading weapons. Again, we're talking moderate skill level players not /hdg/GODS.Plus a lot of stuff in warbonds that allows for variety in loadouts are side shit like grenades (gas, thermies) and sidearms (ultimatum, senator). Things like NEATs for example are fun but so annoying to constantly need to be right next to another person to drop for them it becomes too inconvenient to actually use.
>>557044862Oh yeah? What stratagem takes out 6 vox niggers?Keep in mind Orbital Railcannon Barrage does not exist yet.
>>557044935don't they survive that?
>>557045014I will use another.
>can't control hellpod when next to the giant wallsWHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?
>>557045036>Hm, better not let the players walk on top of those walls for swedish reasons.
Only the first pass has multiple pages worth of unlockables? Every other it seems only has 3. Which passes are worth unlocking over time?
>>557045036don't want you getting on the walls, that might be unfun :)
>>557045036It`s immersive - Super Destroyer is under constant fire for precise hellpod drop.
Why are there no civilians on Cyberstan? I'm here to commit warcrimes.
>>557044737page 2 of the store
>>557044970It's called the supply backpack and it gives you 8 thermites and 8 ultimatumsYou can also use it with the most overpowered support weapons in the game and then get 2 slots to bring whatever you need to clear chaff with such as the orbital gatling (disgustingly OP) or orbital gas, or mines
I feel like making a shitty kitbash of the release Barrager together with the War and Factory Striders that looks like a fucknugget on treads that nobody even believed was the real final configuration when it was previewed is not good content, regardless of the ease or difficulty of killing them or whether the spawnrates are sane and proportional to other smaller heavies.
>>557045135cyborgs don't have civilians, every single one is an active combatant
>>557045093It's so fucking stupid. We're leaving the area and when someone gets reinforced, they're forced BACK BEHIND THE WALLS
>>557045095Democratic Detonation reigns supreme. Then it's mostly your choice. Just don't buy the chemical one unless you really want to shit on bugs cause the only good thing there is the gas grenade.
Factory Striders still die to one hit to the foot right?
>>557044356>Unlike Leviathan on release, they don't randomly 1 shot you from across the planet with pinpoint accuracyLittle bro, what the fuck are you talking about. That was peoples number one complaint about it up until they changed its guns to lasers.
>vox spawns in front of us>quickly pull out my senator and headshot the other 3 players>kill the vox with three trident shots and a single HE grenadethere I just saved us 5 minutes, 12 reinforcements, and 6 orbital spams
>>557045014>1500 explosion damage against a 11000 HP enemy with 60% explosion resistanceGee, what do you think?
>>557045118There haven't been precise hellpod drops for what feels like months.I hate how they changed the spawn mechanic and I'm assuming they changed it to stop people from using players as precision strikes.
>>557045447Nah it was because it made grinding certain missions fairly trivial because you could just spawn on no-touch zones on hills etc
I have yet to drop in a pubbie Cyberstan lobby. What’s it like out there?
>>557045553NOT GREAT BOB
>>557045553>BRO GET IN MY TANK>GET IN MY TANK>GUN FOR MY TANK BRO>gets stuck>gets stuck>tank blows up>ahh my bad bro *rips bong on mic
>>557045553lots of quitters to manageable with an average of 2 people making it out
>>557045553Only played a bit with pubs, but once more than two vox engines show up in quick succession things usually go to shit.
>>557045553AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Was I hallucinating or do we get extra stims and nades for cyberstan?
>kill the vox engine at extract>another one spawn>oh I'm sorry, another two spawned>oh I'm sorry, another four spawned>oh I'm sorry, add two more to the mixThis is lame.
>>557043393Nope, never seen those with arrows
HD1 warbonds>Sniper>Explosives expert>Snow expert>Vehicles expert>Mech pilot>Drone expertHD2 warbonds>COWBOYS XDDD>POLICE XDDD>ODST XDDD>DUNE REFERENCE XDDD>NAZIS XDDD FACE LE WALL!
>>557042358Lower the difficulty
>Just unlocked the breaching hammer>Don't have any armor set with melee bonusesShould I buy the viper Warbond set next?
I use unoptimized weapons like the Amendment and the flag in Cyberstan 10s because I like having fun.
>>557044535when only one person laughs it's not comedy it's tragedy
>>55704613790% of the hammers damage is explosive and does not scale with melee damage buffs from armor perks
>>557046352The amendment 1 shot headshots devastators while the adjudicator doesn't. Consider that.
>super earth wunderwaffetank, sort of maybe>automaton wunderwaffesuper heavy murder rape engine
>>557043792That must be it. I am yet to fail a single mission with pubs, even the very first one. All games with randoms were great so far. Even with crossplay enabled
>>557045409Nice reading comprehension retard
>>557046029Yea I miss when they had actual military themes instead of instead of SE using sci-fi franchise references they found in the garbage to arm the troops. They're not even fucking black and yellow.
>>557044284um sweetie that would be a heckin war crime, we can't have that in our wholesome war crime simulator
>>557045409English, motherfucker, do you speak it?>>557046137Do you have stealthbond?Anyway, they fixed melee weapons being useless without specific armor sets before releasing the hammer.
>>557046703I only use black and yellow armor sets
>>557047015Based. I give grey and yellow ones a begrudging pass, but only cause I really like Siege Ready.
>>557047015Why not install the mod that makes all the armors black and yellow?
>>557043687way ahead if you buddy
The vox is fine desu, they just have inflated numbers. If anything they should be stronger, but rarer. Right now you can kill them by just throwing a missile and a couple rockets at them so they're not that problematic, it just gets boring when they're the main enemy. I want factory striders, hordes of hulks, tanks, and the occasional war strider, not 90% vox engines.
>>557045819Spamming bubble shields on extract is kino, actually
>>557045427hard, but fair.
I haven't played Cyberstan. How is it? Me? I'm just farming oil for the war machine :)
Why don't I care about this update at all? I played Arc Raiders last night instead.
>>557046703Sorry anon, maintaining a consistent visual style via uniform colours or giving players the option to change armour colour is impossible in 2026 because uhhh something something bacon and apples.
>>557047241Please no, fuck war striders. I'm fine with vox engines because they don't interfere with objectives. You just have to be aware of them.Factory striders immediately become priority targets and they will fuck your shit up if not dealt with.Maybe not in megafactories, idk if they can even function wit hall the buildings around. But still fuck them.
>>557046029>dune parody pack!>judge dredd parody pack!>40k catachan parody pack!>dust514/interstellar marine parody pack!
>>557047503>Please no, fuck factory striders*fix
>>557043487Last time Arrowhead tried we wound up with flyers that turned into tungsten when they died.
How does one kill a vox engine, let alone three vox engines that are attacking you at once The difficulty is already pretty low.
>>557047241Gotcha, making factory striders spawn in patrols and as common as hulks. What, you're not having fun?
>>557047638leveler
>>557047503I like factory striders being high priority targets, as long as they aren't spammed. You can neuter them with a single rocket for the back cannon and then just blast the chin guns with your primary. There should at least be some of them on the planet, instead vox engines hog up almost all the heavy spawns. I have seen a total of three tanks so far and maybe a dozen war striders.
>>557047683I have shot them with a leveler and they have lived. I have seen them take a direct hit from the solo silo and live. And that does not solve the problem of the other two.
>>557047219NTA, but it's not just aesthetics. There's a sense of camraderie in everybody wearing the colors of the organisation you're all part of. Spray painting the armors so only I see the right colors just isn't the same.>>557047481Black Ops my beloved... I miss you.
>>557047806if they survive solo or leveler that means they're one AT tap away from dying. Gattling also works pretty well.
>>557047638It seems that AH intended for players to outmaneuver it, blast its rear vents, then throw a grenade into the hatch that opens up (I think there's two of them?). Or at least, that's the 'efficient' option.As for how doable that is when there's several of them flinching and ragdolling you + all the other bots/borgs, who knows, I haven't managed it yet. Personally, I've never seen anyone other than myself even bother to target the vents.>>557047806Leveller does kill them I think, but you have to aim at the lower portion of their torso. Don't bother with the head, it has more health than the actual vox engine itself
Does someone who wants to play Tank want to add me as friend?Struggling to find reliable tank crews with randosSteam friend code is 492464641Helldivers Friend code 1375-2285
>>557037936>Loadsamoney EditionEmbarrassing copy and paste. You should rewrite everything on your own every new thread
>>557047638If you run out of levellers because you have too many cocks to suck>Run up>shoot two vents on its ass>shoot vent on its balls>both light pen>throw grenade into now opened ass hatch>die in the middle of doing this because of 3 Vox Engines dropping on top of you
>>557038763It's not just powercreep. More enemies were introduced, some were buffed, along with more environments that required better weapons. It turned outdated. Try using it against Predators or Rupture strain and see how well it works out. It just doesn't. Try using it in caves, and Hive Guard spam will filter you and you'll probably not use your primary much at all. It has also never worked well against bots.
>you are meant to attack the vox from behind and throw a nade in>they can literally shoot through their own body to kill you
>>557048503Realism for thee, but not for me.
>>557048250Just host tank lobbies here. We generally don't do "friends" around here. Goes against the whole anonymous vibe we like.I've played with full tank crews where everyone has a bastion so we had close to 100% tank uptime and immediately hop into a new one when the previous gets destroyed. Would highly recommend it.
>>557048503Dude it's fun or something idk I don't play the game
>>557048234>It seems that AH intended for players to outmaneuver it, blast its rear vents, then throw a grenade into the hatch that opens up (I think there's two of them?). Or at least, that's the 'efficient' option.>As for how doable that is when there's several of them flinching and ragdolling you + all the other bots/borgs, who knows, I haven't managed it yet. Plenty of streamers are trivalizing them by doing just that, you can too.
>>557047978For me, it's the Heroic set, that cloak over the shoulders with the high collars is sick.
>>557048683Since streamers are doing it, I don't suppose you have a few clips of them fighting the six vox engines at the same time, right?
>>557046029go play Helldivers 1 then :) it's a complete game, and the war isn't even railroaded!
>get into chinese lobby>I LOVE CHINA>chinks laughChinkdivers are alright.
>>557048862So you hate china and report back to us.
>>557048807The different cape shapes were so good. HD2 could never.
>>557048826i do play helldivers 1 :)
>>557048951It was part of the armor
Squidsisters, we're getting our own dedicated update this time next year, or maybe even better, in six months right?Can we also give the Agitators buff and control mechanism to the Overseers?It can't be too much strain on the developers to implement the new Cyborg effects to the Overseers right? The engine can totally handle this, couldn't it?
NEW MO POSTED
>>557046029The key mistake was giving Helldivers anything but yellow and black. Take any armour set and give it a traditional Helldiver paintjob and suddenly it fits right in. But alas, Arrowhead was too tempted by the chance to include pop-culture and so desperate to get their message across that we're the bad guys that they included sci-fi nazi shit and haven't included yellow and black since release.
>>557049103another forced loss
SG-8S is good? I need a good rifle with medium armor penetration, I like the R-8, but 8 bullets is not enough.
>>557049103We'll lose it because the reward is far too great. They'll drag the Cyberstan plot for a few months because it's easy and lazy.
>>557047241very much agree
>>557047806With the silo and Leveler you need like one more AT thing to finish them off. I usually do it with an ultimatum, but a quasar shot or C4 works. Not sure exactly what stuff does and doesn't work of the last hit, did it with grenade launcher spam after a silo once but not sure if it was further weakend first. Also the portable hell bomb is great cause it kills them plus the 100 other bots and possibly a second one around him. Also while I'm ranting, if you're struggling you might want to considering using stealth a bit when it's viable. Just fucking off from an objective to do a diffrent one when it get's hot often is a good way to deal with a seemingly unbeatable horde of angry bots.
>>557049238Tell me who this is and I will tell you.
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SPAWN THIS FREQUENT, RIGHT?
>le black and yellow!Video game nerds have the worst taste in aesthetics
>>557049326i would assume yes since AH is fucking retarded
>>557049365Yep, hate them. Which videogame studio do you work at btw?
I will fightLobby doko?
>>557049238HOLEEEYYYY!
Is stealth warbond worth it for the c4 alone Nothing else in it interests me.
>>557049326Hopefully it's like Dragonroaches and the spawn rates are bugged.
I can't believe it took them this long to place bot ships in orbit fighting our destroyers in space.
>>557048250I sent you a friend request 15 minutes ago
>>557049041Ah, right. Still, there was some cool ones like Arctic having a fur trim, Black Ops being split in two, or the wide cloak on the Recon guy.
>>557049440host one
>>557049238I love fat bitches
How's the stealth warbond? Anything good in it except the C4? How's the stealth perk? Does sneaking around with it actually work?
What if C4 on the back? Shouldn't the explosion take out the vents?
>>557049238I hate fat bitches
>>557041960I left shortly after Control Group dropped so early August or so, 6 months later and there has been 1 new normally obtainable strat added plus a few capes, that's it, that's the content, everything else means catching up on bonds which means playing like it's a job or paying like 60 bucks and I haven't even looked at the superstore additions yet lmaoI hate how much these devs got their dicks sucked by nolife thirdies over 'muh super generous farmable premium currency' shit, it became an excuse to SC gate everythingI don't think there's even SC spawns on the planet where the game expects everyone to dive for the next couple of weeks
*AROOOOOGA*HELLDIVER SCUM*Ragolls and instakills you*
>>557049467>>557049657C4 is great, especially on Hulk surges, it has a big AOE that can take out several at once. It's also great for stealth, of course.The stealth armors are really good, I sprinted within only some 15 meters in front of a War Strider and it didn't spot me.The silent marksman rifle is also great for stealth purposes, and not much else. The AR is whatever.
In a vacuum, Vox Engines are not that bad. They're not as punishing as Hive Lords, for sure, and they do have an obvious (if difficult to hit) weak spot for a quick kill. A single helldiver with the right loadout can easily solo them. With good cover and the right positioning, I can (and have) solo two of them at once.But four or more of them at once is just bullshit. I cannot believe that their spawn rate is intended to be this high.
c4 either should have been a grenade, or had at minimum twice the carrying capacity.
Does the game have a suppression mechanic?
>>557049759https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/10886>tfw my government has abandoned me>tfw can't dig a foxhole to hide
>>557049764I find the stealth pistol is nearly as handy as the rifle in cases for steal stuff, at least on bots.
>>557049657>Does sneaking around with it actually work?Yes, you can practically crawl under a bot patrol without them noticing you in the stealth armor. But you need to be good at landing headshots to get good use out of the Censor, because if you miss a couple of times, you will draw aggro.
>get blasted no matter where I hide>wtf???>look around>tfw
>>557049308>>557049463>>557049654that's a fake silicone butt btw. Like a rubber suit. Literally a costume.
>>557049759Their elephant noises are great, same for the new music
>>557049759
>>557042868based, fuck the memetank
>>557049968Damn, the bots are getting smarter
>>557049968working as intended, this is their capital planet so it's supposed to be hard, maybe you should lower the difficulty, small indie company please understand
>>557049968This is probably what was randomly killing me at times
>>557049856c4 should have been five bricks, no backpack, and the same cooldown as the EAT, like it was in the first game.
>>557050052No they aren't. That there is all 100% certified cyborg ingenuity.
>go from full health to dead because I kept getting flinched and was unable to stim. I would like to be able to play the game.
lobby doko
>>557049968get climbing anon, those vents won't shoot themselves.
>>557049968RUN HELLDIVER!
>>557049428Ur mum. Seriously though get some taste.>Animal Crossing>visit others' islands, they're all shit>helldivers>people actually praising boring black 'n gold scheme
>quickplay>join team>we clear full 5 stars>host leaves after 1/3 missions donewhy
You can easily one-shot Vox Machines with the reinforcement stratagem. It takes one hellpod to where the top vent opens from and they keel over.
>>557050345Genuine disconnects still happen
>>557049726i'm in the same boat. I've tried grinding sc with the cheat but it's so boring i'd rather go outside and smell flowers. In terms of money/time it's actually cheaper for me to just buy them, but there are so many warbonds now I could buy a whole new game. More hardcore players are oblivous to this because they're always ahead on currencies. I get that devs don't work for free but it's getting a bit ridiculous.
What pisses me off about the voxnigger is it goes against the design philosophy the game has established.Normally an enemy is the sum of its parts.Factory Strider can have its turret blown out. It's chin-guns removed etc.A Bile Titan can have it's underbelly torn to shreds (I say) and it can no longer vomit.Dragonroach also broke this philosophy being able to completely ignore wing-damage and just fly around as if nothing was amiss. They fixed that (took their sweet time of course).Now we have Voxfaggots where you can't blow out their side-guns. Only their peashooters on the lower chassis are destructible.It also baits (you) same as the War Strider with glowy bits that is normally the tell-tale sign that you should shoot here. Yet in reality it is actually the tankiest part.Another poorly designed enemy and before you start screeching at me. Notice that I haven't complained at all about its attack-pattern or ragdoll-galore, because that wouldn't be a problem if it was just adhering to the rules of the game in the first place.
GUYS IF EVERY HELLDIVER SPAM D1 TWENTY TWO TIMES RIGHT NOW WE CAN DO IT
>>557049661Three C4 anywhere on the Vox Machine kills it. Like even on the treads, it'll blow it the fuck up.
>>557048234Why is he so smuh
>>557050556D1 - D3 is disabled lol
>>557050538lower the difficulty chud
>>557050632FUCKING SWEEEEDEEEEEES
>>557049726>I hate how much these devs got their dicks sucked by nolife thirdies over 'muh super generous farmable premium currency' shit,gaymers deserve the sorry state that video games are in right now if they consider a company good for, "not making the paywalling AS bad."
>>557050616You know if 2 C4 plus an ultimatum is enough? Sounds like a good route if trying to be ammo smart.
>>557049968have you tried lowering the difficulty?
>>557049972Yeah bro. Women can't get fat asses. It's totally not possible.
>>557050538Decrease the stage of adversity.
>>557050556there's like 250k unique players now between pc and consolesdo they expect everyone to extract 100 times? wtf
>try raise the flag D10 mission>flag starts raising>instantly 3 Vox Engines spawn directly on the flag>one Vox Engine literally spawns on top of my headDidn't they learn from the past 2 years to make this shit spawn away from the flag. How have we gone fucking backwards. Are they simply not play testing or remembering what problems are already fixed?
>>557050880Raise the flag is by the far the hardest objective right now from what I can tell. Only one I there's a risk for my group to fail it.
>HELLDIVERS CUMwhat did they mean by this?
>>557051016https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=16465005
I showed you my vent please respond.
>>557050983>>557050880have we tried smokes yet
>>557050880I think it's something exclusive to the factory world maps. Something about it just makes dropships dump bots right on top of (you) rather than a short distance away. Too many damn times I've had a vox engine get dropped right on top of me
>>557049726>I hate how much these devs got their dicks sucked by nolife thirdies over 'muh super generous farmable premium currency' shitIt's so strange seeing most players be fine with paying 40 bucks upfront, full price for a AA game like HD2, and then being nickled and dimed for every scrap of content and defending that.The whole shit about SC reminds me of how your average shitty p2w game always lets you farm the premium currency at a painfully slow rate, just so fanboys can defend it and pretend it isn't p2w. HD2 gets praise for just being a bit less painful.
>>557050880They don't playtest past diff 5 and vox engines don't spawn thereThere is no scenario where they could encounter a vox engine at the flag objective
>>557051048They can use the semen to make test tube babies and create more cyborgs. Genius.
>>557051092I probably should give orbital smoke a try. One method we've found is having someone wearing the stealth amore getting close enough to trigger it raising while hiding, then running in to kill everything with hell bombs, laser beam, solo missiles. Probably is you can't always get away for hiding the whole bar.
>>557051079>he posted the edited version
>>557051134HD2 truly is on par with F2P grinds, except just not free. I honestly think they'd be perfectly fine raising the SC amount per loot drop to 20-50. Hell, fucking give 100 on d10, that way farmers dont get it.
>>557051318the problem is when the vox is targeting you and you;'re trying to throw a grenade in there it bends its torso in such a way that it covers the vent hatch
>>557051324Pretty sure everyone That's not a console player at least that wants to skip the SC grind has just cheated at this point.
Did the Cyberstan update mess with the CE table?
GIANTSGIANTSGIANTSBECOME UNSTOPPABLE
>seaf-chans have been released on cyberstan to aid in the invasion>however, if you dont protect them OR knock them up first they will be bred by BCC and cyborgs numbers will surge>now go down and do your duty helldiver
>>557051592A little but it still works for SC farming.
>>557050556>250k divers at peak hours>would require each diver to compete 100 missions>each mission takes an average 40 min to complete>assuming every mission is successful (lol), each diver would need to put in 66 hours of work to complete this Oh boy, another "you're supposed to fail this" MO
If vox tanks are giving you so much trouble then try playing on a different mode like D5 or D4.
>>557050556Nailbiters... is it already time to panic ?
>>557051684not to mention that actually extracting isn't exactly a walk in the park what with all the Vox Engines coming out of the snow.
>>557045553in my experience they all just run away from drop ins which is such boring way to play for me.it's either that or they cant handle standing their ground.
>>557049560I accepted a fr on steam
>>557051743>out of the snowOut of thin air.
>>557051687>why yes I love slurping railroady Joel cock how did you know??
>>557051824It wasn't mine then
where the fuck is the lobby
>>557051324All they had to do was give SC for 100% on missions, or PO/MO completions or something instead of this swedish fuckery of SC from POIs
They should lower the HP on the Vox Engine cannon arms to 5000HP so I can destroy 1 of them with 2 EATs, currently it's 8000 HP per arm so there's 0 reason to target them and I don't want "shoot it until it's dead" type of enemy.
>>557048250>8 years of serviceI'm always up for playing, but I can't be seen with kids.
What's your Cyberstan primary? So far I've tried>Lib CarbineReally really good.>BreakerHorrendous, doesn't strip the armor well and runs out of ammo.>JarNot that good, it's a waste of firepower on chaff.>Killzone SMGWorse Lib Carbine.
>>557051687Watching you discord drones chimp out literally every other update and defend retarded swiggers of all things, when coming back to this game, is always funny OmegaLUL
>>557044371>giganigger AOE still takes a chunk outta anon even though a single piece didn't hit him I hate Swedes so much
>>557050556They know its impossible to fucking extract. Cunts, fix your game swedes.
>>557051134Swedes are top grifters, it's just sold as the price to pay for continued development, ignore every game that ever got updated post-release without tying it to dlcs.
>>557052148Trident.
>>557051134I wouldn't have minded it at all if D10 has more super credit spawn but the fact of the matter is D1 is STILL the way to farm it to this day and the cheating was never dealt with.It's like they don't care. And if they don't care i don't see why i should either which is why i caved to SCheats.
>>557052148Give Deadeye a try, it can 1 shot headshot all Cyborg and can stun lock them in place
>>557052148Punisher plasma, I want to give a go to the lasers later on but I heard they kinda suck against cyborgs
Couple D10 stansteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243653122106/76561198025334742>>557052008Just host yerself if no one else is
>>557047537>dust514/interstellar marineholy flop throwbacks
>>557051687>Just don't play the mode we put into our game for you to play
wish we had more viable anti tank options. the spear, wasp. eagle rocket pods need some love.it's horrendous how we are forced to bring the same gear for every drop on d10
>>557042715you don't sound like someone who should be telling other people what to do with their free time
>>557052428FVLL
>>557052148Tenderizer with a 4x scope
>>557045553Fucking awful. Pubbies are complete retards, and Cyberstan punishes retard behavior. Many of them will ignore the main objective in favor of doing side objectives or blowing up outposts. They also tend to run away from the group and decide to play Rambo, which almost always gets them killed when a Vox Engine spawns on top of them.I can usually carry a couple of retards through D10, but that's not possible on Cyberstan. Every player has to shoulder their own weight and work as a team here, which is virtually impossible for pubbies.
>>557052428>less than 3 minutes>fullfuck me dude I cant even take a fucking piss
>>557052693Honestly you could probably carry if you just go full into stealth gameplay since there getting all the drops attention. That'll stop working on flag missions though, or if they try to help you to much.
WHERE'S MY MUSCULAR CYBORG MOMMY?!
I only wish that the vox's missile speed was a little bit slower
>>557052768>he doesnt have a piss bottle
the problem with the vox isn't that its hard. it only takes 3 rockets the issue is that it requires a modicum of coordination and reveals just how many people are getting AT carried in bot lobbies
Did they finally fix the bug with status effects not working from a certain distance away from hosts? I tried testing an all fire load out earlier and I couldn't tell if I was psyching myself out that it worked now or not.
Are the cyborgs in this game actual people-turned-cyborgs consensually, or are they reanimated meatbags
>>557048479>It's not just powercreep.It was also nerfed
>>557053278consensually. they're REALLY into transhumanism. they had reanimated ones in HD1 but they weren't very graceful.
>>557053218The problem is too many spawn at a single time.
>>557053259>arrowhead. >fixing bugs. Unless it is something realistic (note: "realism" only matters when it they want to make things worse for the players), they do not care.
>>557052148>CoyoteNot great, not terrible, but good enough to survive. Ammo was an issue, though.>EruptorInstantly realized this was a mistake, too much close quarter combat, and shots keep ricocheting off the ground.>TridentGreat in close range, but I was getting into situations where I needed some longer range firepower.>Dickle This is the way. Go full auto, shred the bots like toilet paper, take out the Vox's vents, clear out an entire patrol in seconds. Makes me feel like this.
>>557049258>a few monthsLMAOmore like a few weeks, then it's back to shit like>Helldivers, R&D needs durable materials to make gun stocks. Go to Hellmire to harvest Charger penis bones.>NEW MAJOR ORDER: kill a billion chargers
>>557053498>Go to Hellmire to harvest Charger penis bonesI laughed
>>557037936>https://democracy-hub.netAnyone else having trouble getting the loadout builder part of the site to work? It's the only one I've found that stays up to date but now it won't load for me, just permanently stuck on "initializing database".
>go to access terminal.>teammate with hellbomb also goes to access terminal. >press E aka the button that does everything. >arm his hellbomb. Why did arrowhead even give the option for someone else to arm the portable hellbomb? Are they still pretending that teamwork is a thing in this game?
>>557052684it's so good without all the bugged rocket striders. the thing SHREDS both borg variants.
>>557053451maybe but they should be getting killed a lot quicker than im seeing in pubs
Forgive the Xitter ADHD tiktok video but this is the best explanation I could find on how to easily kill the Vox Engine.tl;dw shoot the vent underneath it, then the 2 vents in its back, and throw one grenade into the hatch slot that opens up. there is no need to shoot the vents up tophttps://x.com/Helldivers_NOW/status/2021336950817554648?s=20
>>557053278OG cyborgs took to augmentation to both survive Cyberstan's harsh climate and to meet the extremely high tithes the SE government forced them to meet. They rebelled essentially over a tax dispute, the terrorism stuff was a false-flag by Super Earth to justify extreme violence. When they were defeated they were fully enslaved in the mines of Cyberstan, and apparently their entire bloodline was considered undemocratic because 100 years later their children were still working jn the concentration camps. Hence they created Vessel 00 to secretly carry the first Automatons far away in the hope (that came true) that they would one day return in force to liberate them.
>>557053758it's not a teamwork thing it's a "haha oops friendly fire" thing. why would you need someone to activate your bomb? get your arms blown off?
I have a feeling that the Vox engine was heavily rushed out. They're buggy as fuck and look like incomplete shit.Feels like they were planning on making some sort of GunTank but deadlines got to em so they ditched the the head, came up with some lame ass barrel and put a cyborg in it, and then ditch the arms and just slapped 2 Factory Strider cannons on the arm slots.Which made them look goofy and retarded as fuck, and then they also tweaked a few stats and jacked up their HP to fucking 8000 and then called it a day. Also slapped 2 factory strider gatlings to the side but they forgot to crank the HP of those thing to the thousands.With the busywork needed to kill one, those things have no business spawning 3 at a time and have another one spawn out of thin air. I'm not even having fun anymore.
Chainsaw is the single best support weapon to bring to cyberstan.
>Vox canister crushes me outside of the extract>Get reinforced>A second one nearly crushes me while we're in the extract Fuck off that shit isn't natural.
>>557050556Kek didn't they give us a week to extract from Omicron only 7 million times and we still failed? This is so scripted
>>557053879That reminds me of something else, Automaton Schwerer Gustav when?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243655367181/76561198202981661lobby doko nigger desu ne
>>557039562A jeet can dream
Orbital Gatling Barrage kills a Vox Engine like, 50% of the time
>>557053858Personally, I do not find the, "haha teamkilling," features to be that fun or entertaining. I have seen the gatling sentry turn 180 and shoot a teammate for no reason enough times to know that it is deliberate.
How long until we get the DSS back ???
>>557054236Stupid fucking chud, you voted to raze Merak (a war crime) so now its broken and doesn't work at all, fuck you
>>557041650I try new stuff occasionally, realize how ineffective they are and remembered why I stopped
>>557054216>MMG sentry is shooting shit in the distance>once everything is dead it keeps shooting while suspiciously turning to me>stops firing right as it finishes zeroing in on my locationVery funny. I am laughing. Haha.
>>557054302Chill dawg, it's only offline for 24 hours and then it's back
>>5570541403/4 we need (you)!
>>557053858>>557054216>>557054368Wasn't there a thing where the eruptor's shrapnel would intentionally go after teammates and always headshot them
>>557051684100 eradicates in 5 days20 eradicates per dayDoable but nobody will do this boring shit, plus extracting is not always easy on stan eradicates.
Whats the best warbond to unlock for bots?
>>557054546democratic detonationit's also the best for bugsand squids
>>557050556>chink hackers are helpingMaybe not over yet??? Because these hackers can just press one button to instantly complete missions and extract
>>557054425>Send DSS to raze Merak for 24 hours!>*is actually gone 48 hours*
>>557054454That's shrapnel in general.AC Flak? Randomly takes off your head. Can happen 3 seconds after the explosion even.Orbital Airburst? The lone shrapnel taking a 90 degree turn mid-air to blast your head clean off 75m away.Eagle Airburst? You better find cover because you better believe your head is missing by the end of it.
>>557053197>he doesnt have a super bladder
>>557052148I settled for DCS. Good damage and good ammo economy can't fail.Also tried>lib penWorks alright but small mag is annoying and I haven't leveled it up enough for drum mag>knightIt's a torture, can't strip armor off borgs and runs out of ammo very fast>adjudicatorIt works but every time I see a devastator not dying to a headshot makes me want to kms
>discord users instajoin every lobby because they get @'d for it>threadsissies miss out on them because they don't have their 4chan tab open 24/7
>>557054596I mean yeah, after the vote (which lasted 24 hours because swedes being swedes)
>>557052148I've liked Amendment and Tenderizer the most out of all that I tried.
>>557054736I really don't see a reason to bring medium pen to Cyberstan when it's just borgs and infantry (light armor) and vox engine spam (anti tank/light armor). especially when ammo is really tight.
>>557052693The only constant in your lobbies is you. They run away from you because you're retarded.
>>557054140>>557054449failed
>>557052148>Liberatorsurprisingly good, kills cyborgs fast if you aim for the head and there's a fair amount of basic troopers and the Lib chews through them fast with a good ammo economy to boot>ScytheHorrendous against cyborgs, even with headshots it takes way to long to kill oneStill good against anything else and with infinite ammo to boot>AdjudicatorDecent against cyborgs if you're just aiming center mass. Ammo economy is kinda bad because of all the fucking troopers>ReprimandBascially like the Adjuicator but with less range and ammo
>>557050556>need at least 4.16 million extractions per day to finish thislollmao
>>557054919just like your mom runs away from you to get on my dick
>>557055007What, do you not like designed-to-fail MO's?
>>557054129We already have that. Their ground to low orbit cannons.
>>557055115nahhh this makes me wanna join the cheaters side unironically
>>557053278They are augmented homonculi.
>>557051884>>557052151>>557052587Consider D3, that mode would be more appropriate for you sad, little strugglers.
>>557054185Eagle strafing run would fuck them up too but you can't reliably hit them with it in this biome.
>>557055124No. I want it to bombard the PLAYERS, not relegated to some lame Hellbomb objective.
Are AT Mines any good against Vox Engines?
so DO androids dream of electrocuting humans?
>>557054978Base Liberator is just solid on all counts. Never have I ever used it for a mission and thought I ever needed more.Love me a nice and simple assault rifle.
>>557053426Wrong Anon in some were consensually but pic are super earth citizen that were forced against their will
>>557049103imagine if a war needed 25 million successful operations to be wonwhat the fuck lmao
>>557054575>end result: 54.89%and they are still failingI don't think it's the hackers, I'm sure it's a scripted loss but they also have a fake progress scripted
>>557055363they don't even work properly against hulks and regular tanks
How useful are smoke grenades?
>>557054912DCS is the most ammo-efficient gun and medium pen is much better for stripping light armor (I don't know why but knight can't break armor at all, even dumping 2 magazines into an armored borg does nothing)
>>557055363They do some damage non-negligible damage because Voxes are huge but likely won't kill them
>>557054575just gotta wait to see the numbers at prime time
>>557055549as useful as the flag
>>557043525unfathomably based
Why don't we have fucking space battles? Imagine raiding bot warships.
>>557043706They spawn on d7 and still spawn in groups.
>>557055660that's what the death star is for hopefully
>>557055660game made by swedes
>>557053794Even a team reloaded RR can only kill two before running out of ammo.
What kind of loadout would you reccomend for Cyberstan?
>>557055660>Imagine raiding bot warships.Bots don't need oxygen anon. Their warships probably have an incredibly hot non-breathable and toxic atmosphere.At least I would say that if we didn't start diving on volcano planets.
>>557055853But cyborgs probably do
>>557051687kek! saved. the replies are so affirming too. I wonder if they even realize.
>>557050556Why can't these sw*dish faggots just do 1 (one) event without blatant rigging
>>557055660because the devs are allowed to take swedish holidays instead of being chained to their desks like most respectable studios
>>557049759The rockets of this shit are a real cancer. This shit flies from top to bottom for cover.
>>5570541403/4
>>557053794They have too much health to be killed as quickly as you are asking. Not to mention the cyborgs harassing you throwing smoke everywhere.
>>557053218the problem is you kill one and 3 more show up a few feet behind you
>>557055830Figure it out
>>557055830C4 for Vox Engines.Leveller for Vox Engines.Solo Silo for Vox Engines.Orbital Gatling Barrage? for Vox Engines.Rest is whatever.
Also... Wheres the fucking SEAFI haven't seen any
>>557046029I don't like the warbond system in general
>>557055424No, Grotesques were said to be reanimated corpses of the initiates, their lowest rank of infantry.
>>557056379>>557046029>20 something banners
>>557055830OTF for the pole i'm going to push up your retarded ass
>>557056376I would rather not have the people who only exist to steal your money and get you branded as a traitor on the planet.
>>557055386I love my liberator but I refuse to bring it to the bug front because there's always a chance of a bile spewer seed and that makes me wanna kill myself.
>>557056508ermm ur mouth weakspot bro?
>>557056567doesn't that work only if they're actively barfing at you?
>>557056508grenade pistol and frags both can pop several bile spewers at once, and you have 6 of each (7 of the GP technically)
>the more total players there are, the less impact they individually make on a planetI understand they don't want 200k returndivers to immediately zerg rush Cyberstan, but surely there has to be a better system that'd make player surges like this feel like they impact the war in a positive wayDuring the xbox release, they even hyped up the "reinforcements" for weeks and immediately made planets harder to liberate and defend after they arrived kek
>>557056379You would prefer a battle pass? Destiny esque episodic dlc? The warbond system is pretty based desu.
>try to extract>+4 vox engines spawn outta nowherewhere they coming from lmao?
>>557056491I wouldn't mind having them to take aggro and just be a cannon fodder equivalent for us.
>>557056491When did they add jews?
Vox engines are a great idea, but a terrible implementation.The fact that they can just decide they took no damage from your silo or leveler combined with the fact that doing their vent minigame is essentially impossible if there are 3 or more means it's really easy to get overrun, and once you're overrun: it's nearly impossible to recover.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243658267348For the jobless homies
>>557056879>once you're overrun: it's nearly impossible to recover.this can be said about any faction>but this, this, and that are easierso is lowering the difficulty sweaty
>>5570524283/4, one more op, get in.
>>557056376The dispatch says that they're being deployed across the planet, but not in the Myegafactories. So they're in the more open frosty areas which we only see a bit of during our missions.
I think this is the first time I have had very significant fun with the game since predator strain introduction, and then the introduction of the Illuminate faction before that. I think adding new enemies that legitimately make the game more difficult along with a biome is the real lifeblood of the game more than anything else, but it has to be significant. It can't just be one enemy added. Yeah, Illuminate proved to be easy fast, but it was fun figuring them out as a faction for the first few days.I actually thought the super earth invasion was boring because the only interesting enemy they added was the plane that does a fire run on you. The rest was kinda bleh. I didnt think the super cities were meaningfully different with what came before either.This feels like old Helldivers again.I want my pub team to use all the reinforcements. I want bullets flying everywhere while I am surrounded.
Just replace half of Vox spawns with factory striders
>>557056638Originally everyone had a flat liberation value, but it made Europeans feel impotent because Americans and Chinese would liberate numerous planets while the Euros, with all the time off, could never accomplish anything.
>>557057320Halve Vox spawn rates and replace each of them with 2 war striders
>>557057320>Vox can only spawn from bot drops>Replace vox patrols with factory stridersThere
>>557057320Nah
>>557046029Which one is dune? Dust devils?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243660348949/76561198126520852D10, Robots.
I have never appreciated Expert Extraction Pilot as much as I have with these missions good fucking god
>press stim key>don't get stimmed>press key again >animation begins>get killed right as the stim reaches the neckcool game
>>557056646I would prefer each weapon and armor set have a more coherent purpose and theme
>>557057524Genuinely forgot it exists. You're onto something here, anon.
>>557057320Nah, it is good as is.
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>>557055185>inb4 they add a hulking blob of flesh straight from the primordial soup>almost like a mob of flesh>a flesh mob, if you will>but it's totally not the fleshmob, it's a completely unique creation with metal and RGB lights on it
>>557057320just don't drop on Cyberstan or lower diff
>>5570575063/4.
>>557057476>>557057642>>557057693it's more fun to fight more different enemies at once.
>>557057506full
>>557057506f v l l
>>557051092It works. Especially with the hammer. Smoke them and run in and bash their fucking faces in.
>>557057524just time your full completion so that the timer runs out as you finish the last thing, then u can waltz to extraction with pelican already there :)
>>557056654Spawning just outside of your LoS to make the extract chaotic.
Playing with randoms in Cyberstan is madness inducing
>>557057226This. I specifically join low levels just so that we have some challenge. Now it is a struggle even with vets feeling like a real war and its great.
I dont mind us being bad guys, but I kinda wish our enemies in HD2 were bad guys too, even if they only became that way out of HD1 Super Earth's evil actions.But that would betray the heckin satire or whatever.People have misinterpreted Starship Troopers btw. Yeah Earth was bad, but the bugs were a mirror reflection of what Earth and humanity was without the glitz and glamor. It wasn't that they were a good species and we were evil. We were the same.
>>557058026The borgs are literally mulching innocents in giant blenders, the bugs are probably the only neutral faction because they're just mindless animals
>>557057574>Press stim button>See the animation>Hear the sound effect>No heal>Die
>>557057102fix your internet nigger
>>557057102>>557052428>CrashedThanks Sweden.
>>557057979Exactly.
>>557053393I bet we see their super-heavy hive lord equivalent by the time this arc is over and they push for Super Earth.
>>557057102bro our clear..
>>557056403oh my bad then i mixed up those two
>>557058026In the book earth was absolutely not bad, and even in the movie it's a militaristic butt otherwise liberal and free republic. In Helldivers the bugs are amoral, the squids went from moral to genocidal and the automation are unironically communist degenerate terrorists.
>>557055185>>557057687I hope this means we get more of the original cyborg units from HD1 or entirely new stroggification like enemies.
>>557055519They definitely work against Hulks, I brought them to a few Hulkamania missions and they were mostly fine.The problem is that you need some advance warning to a Vox Engine's approach to set up the minefield, there's no guarantee it will run into the minefield, and there's nothing stopping it from just plastering you at range without even needing to approach the minefield.
>>557056638It would be neat to have some sort of "lag" system, that would take a minute to catch up with spikes, but I think they'd have to add the opposite, like when the player base returns to normal for the first bit of that is going to be brutal.
>>557058026>wish our enemies in HD2 were bad guys tooThe bugs are inherently evil, they destroy the ecosystem of entire planets.The Illuminate lost their claim of being misunderstood good guys when they started to abduct innocent civilians and turned them into brainwashed cannon fodder at best or hideous abominations at worst.Even the "peace-loving, just want to be left alone, dindu nuffin" Automatons/Cyborgs are executing civilians and captured SEAF troopers. They mutilate bodies and stick human skulls on poles as decorations. They are no better than Super Earth, maybe even worse; we didn't exterminate the cyborgs when we captured Cyberstan in the first war.
>>557058534I am familiar with the fact that the book is very different. I read a lot of sci fi actually.The Cyborgs sent a clear message of leave us alone, we just dont want to be enslaved, so it is hard to see how they are in anyway bad guys.
>>557058026Helldivers 2 has shown our enemies descend to the same level as us in order to beat us. It's an interesting story of dragging everyone else to our level. I don't get why everyone gets so triggered over the game's satire, it's funny.
>>557058132>>557058407I'm sorry :(Internet is fine, it was just a fuck you moment of cosmic intervention.
Why do faggots act edgy because they enjoy broken, untested slop? This happens every fucking update>heh, leviathans can instantly kill you across the map with no warning, I like it actually...>gets nerfed because it was blatantly unbalanced and untested>heh, war striders can ragdoll you for 10+ seconds straight with their cannons/grenades and also have no weak spots, I like it actually...>gets nerfed and has added weak spots because it was obviously awfully designed>heh, rupture warriors literally can't miss their attacks and force you to pay a stim tax every single time, I like it actually...>gets nerfed because it was blatantly unbalanced and untested>heh, vox engines and patrols spawn literally right in front of me as I'm looking, I like it actually...This is a (pretty easy) PvE game, you are not 1337, and you will not get gamer cred for trying to defend Arrowhead's consistently dogshit QA because it's le hard
>>557056879>they took no damage from your silo or leveler combineI don't think I've ever seen this happen to me. Both always leave them near dead.
>>557038098Same happened to me like 300+ kills & one shot fired
>>557055185far more likely this is some unit we haven't seen yet, as I doubt the automatons would hand over control to some random organic soldiers they manufacturedthe helmeted cyborgs can literally mind jack bot units to the point where they will behave as if lifeless dolls until given orders by the cyborg
>>557038149I had this experience as well and then i understood what was killing me because i saw it happen to another fellow helldiverThe buildings crumble when hit, the debris can hit and OHK you
>>557058829We had one take 3 levelers, a silo, and 5 tank cannon shots to kill last night.It simply decided it wasn't going to take damage.
>>557055601There are claims that two C4 blocks are enough to kill one, and AT mines do approximately the same damage as a C4 block.
>>557058724They were aggressors to a degree in Helldivers 1 and do you really trust communists to actually leave you alone?
>>557059018C4 works because you can put it on its dick where it can hit like 8 areas at once. AT mines will only ever hit one track pod.
>>557059006Yeah that sounds bugged or something. It normally takes one silo or lever + one pretty much any AT to finish them.
>>557058026>but I kinda wish our enemies in HD2 were bad guys tooThe bots butcher and grind people into a pulp to fuel themselves.Bugs completely terraform planets into a disgusting resin hive and you can find SEAF and human bodies strung up in webbing or dead in piles around certain nests.Squids literally mind control and turn them into grotesque mutant zombies or massive multi-body fleshmobs. Do you need to see them kicking a puppy or something to get the point across that they're evil?
>>557038196THE WALLTHE WALLTHE WALLNO ONE ON EARTH CAN MAKE HIM FALL
doko?
>>557059114>don't take the time to properly respect and bury the millions of dead chuds thrown at your planet?>errrrm, that means you're objectively evil, sweety ;)
>>557039502There was a shitton of SC on OshauneI don't even think it's arrowhead being malicious, they're just retarded and don't know what they're doing
Sickle and Autocannon have been massively marginalized via powercreep. I used to really like those weapons near launch, but they feel useless now.
>>557046029I hate the black and yellow color scheme so aesthetically the warbonds have been nothing but a step up. Most of the armors in this game where the Swedes try to be "original" look fuck ugly.
>>557056996Me last night when the game put the fucking extract in a crater in the middle of the fucking pavement. Oh boy was it fun having five different patrols of bots converging and shooting right into the crater with bot drops consistently happening non-stop for two minutes straight and red grenades flying into the pit. Everyone used their orbital lasers and it barely put a dent in the bullshit. We all died.
>>557039502They use the SC for the economy. The Automaton dollar is near worthless these days.
>>557059440This. I tried using autocannon last night and it just felt like a wet noodle. I'd rather stick with the grenade launcher if I want lots of booms now that it's heavy pen.
>>557058535Fuck yes Arrowhead please. I want hounds. The bots now have Overseers from squids why not a little bit of predator strain too.
Giving the GL the same penetration as the AC, HMG and AMR was a mistakeWhat a weird, random buff for a weapon that didn't need it
>>557058787Tedium = funEveryone using the same meta loadouts = good game design
>>557059440commando my beloved still the best AT in the game since day 1
>>557058026>I kinda wish our enemies were bad guys toomeanwhile>the automatons are making human zoos and smoothies just because they can>the illuminate are turning innocents into undead puppets for the sake of revenge>bugs are just animals, but they're totally razing entire planets to turn them into smog ballsHonestly, everyone's pretty evil.
>>557059440Even on launch I never understood the appeal of the Autocannon. The idea of my recoil pattern being the entire thing jerking to the right was pure AIDS.
>>557059640I am also perpertually confused by this. I would kill to get some insight into their thought process.>>557059721Wasn't commando given away for free when they dropped Viper Commandos?
>>557059739i wish it was actually good against air units, the airburst rocket too
>>557054140ggs I hate sweden
>>557059440absolutely nobody could have predicted this
>>557059735>making human zoosHuh, with the cyborgs?
>>557059840It is though? APHET 2 shots Gunship thrusters and 1 shot headshots Elevated Overseers, FLAK decimates Shriekers.
>>557059440It's not power creep. They just keep boosting the armor on enemies for no reason at all. Trident is better on Cyberstan just because you constantly have shit in your face and enemies spawn on you. Sickle is better for planets with open terrain. Autocannon is still good but not for planets like this with a high density of enemies and constant combat. Right now, I'm running laser, Leveler, Backpack grenade launcher, and either a sentry/arty/airstrike and a Trident for a main. And yet there are times I wish I could use something else because of the constant gunships that keep appearing.
>>557059840Worst part of the airburst is that it was literally advertised as shredding the shriekers when they first came out too. Everyone thought it was gonna be a great match. JK Alexus is fucking trash.
>>557059739Ac could kill every bot enemy with good ammo economy. That was unique. Then they buffed dmrs and added heavies. Now there were a better chaff clear and AT options
>>557059721>day 1>
>>557060031>It's not power creep. They just keep boosting the armor on enemies for no reason at all.What the fuck are you talking about
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243663975968/76561198133870615D10 Bots on Cyberstan
I like the Trident, but I just feel like Scorcher has been slept on for bots for a while.
>>557060031I feel like the GL is probably a good gunship answer, but for the life of me I can't seem to hit the damn things with it.
>>557059440Autocannon deserves a buff. AP rounds should be AP4, and flak rounds should be AP3 so that they can actually damage gunships. Also wouldn't hurt to increase the ammo capacity and maybe add ~25% more damage. Then people would use it more.I don't know what you could do for the Sickle since the Dickle now exists. No reason to take the former over the latter.
>>557058787I do enjoy the difficulty spike, feels like a proper D-Day. We love larping here normgroid
>>557060208Scorcher is very reliable but the ammo is horrible.
>>557059739It swapped places with the GL for fodder clearing. Flak is great against anything without heavy armor, often one hits a devastator if you aim at their chest, strips the armor off an overseer in two shots while also shredding the voteless behind him, and mulches alpha commanders and their summoned chaff.
>>557060148Enemies are getting thicker armor but the weapons are the same power. There's not really anything that sucks dick except maybe that medium pen bolt action rifle absolutely no one uses.
>>557060202failed
>>557060202timed out
>>557060075The hulk stagger really sucked as well. It made shooting the visor pretty annoying.
>>557060208>>557060314How's the purifier these days? I used it a lot when they first buffed it same time as the scorcher buff but then I wandered around.
>>557060341which enemies got thicker armor
>>557060216I've been having to hit their engines with my Talon because bringing a Javelin to these missions is a total waste of time. You won't have the ammo or time to consistently rearm that thing unless someone is wearing a supply backpack.
>>557060312>doesn't address my point at all>randomly brings up larpingYeah, you seem like the kind of dumb faggot I'm talking about
>>557060148At launch you could kill every single bot enemy with medium pen from the front except for the tank which spawned in low enough numbers to be manageable. But then War Striders were added and Autocannon was no longer viable as an effective all rounder. If they spawned in numbers closer to tanks than hulks, or if they had actual medium weakspots, then Autocannon would make a return. However with each update bots continue to require more hard AT checksSickle is still good against bots though, there are just a ton of other good guns. Sickle just used to be the least shit primary before it was nerfed, then everything was buffed and now its a solid B-tier weapon.
>>557060413Bots specifically. Even chaff units are resisting being one-shot by Tridents now unless you beam them from a few meters away
>>557060468What point, that you're a faggy redditor who likes to cry all the time? I enjoy the extreme difficulty, if its too much for me I'll lower it to D9 or D8 until they inevitably reduce the Vox Engine spawn rates. So many normgroids live in an eternal present, its just funny to me.
>>557060314I am running supply pack for GL anyway, so it works.
>heres your D10 pub host
>>557060373As the othet anon said, power creep. Devs became a joke and so did hulks. the addition of war strider and rocket chiken didnt help either
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243664598016/76561198141964882we flex on robots in this lobby
>>557060598Oh with the supply pack Scorcher is definitely one of the best primaries to take. No question there.
>Take Merak and you get a +20% (equates to +1.5%) liberation bonus for the first 24 hours!>After 24 hours we lose the 1.5% bonus>All bot resistances also fall by 1.5%>They were inflated to match our bonus resistance the whole timeKek, Joel you GM you
>>557060632holy fastfull
Gun Dog + Trident is all you need for the chaff. That's three strats to deal with the Vox Engines.
>>557060632>failed to join
If you shoot a Vox Engine in the dick with a Leveler it kills it. I've done it twice so far but I'll keep testing to be sure I wasn't just shooting damaged ones.
>>557060772I've been managing with chaff with pretty much just the Trident alone. I guess also the shield grenades to give a moments pause to recharge.
>>557058787Said faggots are terminally online, nolife this game, and are really looking for a game that does not exist but project their desire onto this game.
I am seeing alot of high level people joining in with big robots and nukes and due to it I can never tell if I am getting good at the game or am I getting carried.
>>557060748Wow so Aurora Bay was correct choice all along? Shocker.
>>557060748No you don't understand! Bot resistance fell because we're putting a dent in their numbers DUH.
>>557059770We got the Commando when we were holding X-45 to unlock the plans for the DSS. It and Viper Commandos are two separate events.>>557060412It's still the godliest anti-bot weapon to grace the Earth. It's probably still great on Cyberstan because Cyborgs are stupidly weak to explosives and you could probably kill one with a charged shot.
>>557060604I think the AC is pretty decent against War Striders going for the hip joints. Reinforced Scout Striders are easy as well. Some other thing that contributed to the AC's fall was it's utility being devalued. Fabricators are piss easy to destroy now with a myriad of tools.
>>557060772Trident is also phenomenal for taking out Vox vents.My loadout of choice is:>trident>ultimatum>dynamite >leveler>minigun>bastion>emancipator
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>>557060592I enjoy difficulty too and I think Cyberstan is great, but I don't enjoy bad game design like spawning enemies in my literal field of vision. Even cowadooty 4 on veteran did a better job at hiding its ridiculous spawns in 2007.You're not disagreeing with what I said, what are you even getting butthurt about?
>ded thread>lobbys fill instantlykill all lurkers desu
>>557061248I'm just here for the lobbies so I lurk. Posting is pointless because it's exclusively shitflinging and schizobabble.
bloody lazy benchodssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243665451408/76561197986892683
>>557061248join, fag
>>557061248nigga we're busy playing tf u want
>106,000 people on cyberstan>only 81,000 in the mega factories>there are no non-mega factory missionsWhere the fuck did those 25,000 people go?
>>557060560Bot chaff has received 0 armor, 0 durability, 0 HP buffs since the launch of the gameDevastators received a durability buffs to their limbs which no one aims for (and it was reverted for the arms so it's only the legs)You're just making shit up
>>557061365FVLL
>>5570610952/4
>>557061164>comes into thread to shit pants and cry nonstop>"y-you mad bro?"kek
>>557061248Suck my fat knob.
when the spawn rates are reasonable, cyberstan is hard but about as good as this game gets. when the spawn rates are bad and you get 6 vox engines dumped on your head with no counterplay other than running and spamming shields, the game is almost unplayable.
>>557061423Probably sitting in orbit, either afk or waiting for a mission.
>>557058126Wasn't it implied that the bugs are more intelligent than they look? I remember there being some comment like that.
>>557061423Sitting on their ships in between missions.
>>557061248i'll break lurk when there's anything worthwhile to post about, not this back and forth of shit game, lower the difficulty
>>557061574Hmm...if only there was a way to directly influence spawn rates on a scale of 4-10...
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>>557061248I thought this was semi active for once. Meh.
>>557058026All sides are evil. Except bugs they are just a force of nature. Or do you really believe that the bots or illuminates does not lie about their involvement? They all lie and connive
>>557061574Just don't play D10s? I don't understand the point of playing max diff then whining about it being difficult.
>>557061786>failed
I would say Cyberstan should have a minimum difficulty of 7, but that would just cause people to cry more. I dont want the devs to nerf vox, so I guess it is good as is.
On the topic of factions, is there any in-universe reason why bots, bugs and squids don't attack each other? I find it hard to believe they would cooperate with one another, even if they share the same enemy.
>>557061761>>557061863I've had balanced spawn rates on D10 and hellish spawn rates on D8-D9. difficulty level is not the issue. stop gargling swigger scrotum
>>557062081Illuminates are psyopping them to attack SE, screenshot this!
There are only 2 difficulties.D2 for supercredits and D10 for playingsimple as
>>557062002They just need to fix the VOX spiderman top on the tower glitch, and that it prefer to hunt the host. Otherwise it is fun, maybe lower the spawn rate bellow diff 10, but let 10 be hard.
>b-but it's not difficulty it's just frustratinglower the frustration slider then?
>>557061095lost one, I'm still waiting, join on me fags
>>557060601why are you playing with pubbies? /hdg/ lobbies fill up in seconds now
Do we need D1 GODS to cheat us a win?
>>557062213does it taste like surstromming?
>>557062175D2 is for super credits. D6 is for playing. D10 is for stroking your epeen and trying to convince yourself you're MLG to your 3 viewers on twitch.
>>557062081no reason to attack each other when there's an enemy that they all hate, at least for the bots and squids, bugs probably would attack them
>>557061248I watch the friends list because i am on console.
>>557062295Can't dive on D1 on Cyberstan.
>>557062295D1 gods are barred from Cyberstan (some god you are lmao)
>>557062317>angry cope responseconcession accepted
>>557062317you should talk about your ego problems to a therapist
>>557062295So by extract, I want to be clear that each helldiver that extracts on a successful mission is +1 right?It doesnt just mean that there is an extraction (empty or full) that occurs on a successful mission is +1?
>>557062295you tourist realize D1-D3 is blocked right
>>557062081My shizo head cannon is that this like 1984 where in reality all factions are controlled opposition by SE. Hence they don't fight each other because SE wants to false flag an existential crisis to continue it's control over the people. Though maybe the bugs should be more hostile to the other factions as they are just bugs
>>557062528they probably didn't make map seeds for the lower difficulties, never expect a swede to actually put work into their own game
>>557062528>touristThat word doesnt mean what you think it meansI never play anything other than D10 so I never even bothered to check.
>Joel is a commentary on US presidents artificially lengthening forever wars in the middle east for no reason.
>>557062503not hearing a no>>557062510you should see a therapist about your compulsion to throat swede shaft
>>557062490>>557062445D4 is the equivalent of D1 if youre not colossal dogshit at the game.
I cant cyberstand it
>>557056184>I shoot it once>you shoot it once>quasar queer shoots it once>dead in as long as quæersar takesbut no we need to carry the grenade launcher and mmg
>>557062081Because they're not bordering each other.
>>557062817Play on a difficulty you're more comfortable with.
>>5570629530/10 bait
Dear Mom, Dad & ChemyI did well today; all of us extracted eleven times with minor injuries from the front. I can't go over when and how we are fighting, but we will win and destroy this Automaton menace and their evil Cyborg masters. I will go home before the next town festival.Love to you allFrederick H. (1102-93495288)
>>557063040So, D10.
>>557062953>compromised by the Illuminate
>>557063032Illuminate can definitely hit any planet they want to.
>>557062328>D6 is for playingD7 is literally the sweet spot between fun and gameplay, because D7 is where the higher tier enemies start showing up. I played D6 with friends on the new Cyberstan missions and I never once saw a Vox Engine on that difficulty over two hours.
the swecuck fears the chinese ri(sc)e farmer
>>557062953We're literally about to engage in another middle eastern war with Iran because the Israeli controlled dog that is Trump is doing what all controlled dogs do.
>>557062081No
>>557063382>He thinks every SC you spawn in takes money from Arrowheads pocketsYou dont know how anything works.
>>557062953I never mentioned him.
>>557063382
>>557063492i was already a chinese long long ago
>>557060031The Dickle pretty much powercrept the Sickle out of the game lmao>it's the Sickle but with even better heat capacity and damage+penetration that scales with current heat>the downside is that you take a bit of fire damage if you start getting well beyond the Sickle's overheat threshold (which can be mitigated by wearing one of the three kinds varieties of armour with fire resistance and/or laying down)And now the Trident is doing the same (even more so if they later add a DE Trident or some shit).
pub diving in cyberstan makes me want to kill myself 7 games in a row people leave and no one fills in
d7 seems to be the limit for the average quickplay pubby's brain, d8 and beyond you start encountering returnfags and chinks which make the game harder than a hdg lobby d10
I know I'll get chewed out for this post but, as someone who isn't real good at video games overall I've found the following helped me with D10 CyberstanPersonal Shield Backpack with Shield Grenades.At least one stratagem for Smokes (they really do help), Personal Silo/Hellbomb Pack, and then the Orbital LaserThe new silent sniper rifle (forget its name, think Censor maybe?) with the Hellbomb SidearmThe trick is to drop the smoke between you and a Vox Engine or ontop of the engine to more easily shoot its vents; make sure you keep your eyes on your radar and pre-drop smokes on patrols or large grouping of enemies to help your teammatesI also honestly believe the Drop Pod Smoke is incredible, especially when you play with randoms as much as me, this may sound like stupid logic but doing random D10 on Cyberstan you should already assume you'll run out of lives rather quickly so dropping literal meat shields in front of you creates the following - a distraction, a smoke grenade-like area to breath, reposition to better areasFor armors I'd actually go with one of the Democracy Protects armors (I swear their perk is proccing way more than it ever did outside Cyberstan) or the medium Stealth Armor because Cyborgs like to run and reposition but with the Stealth Armor, maybe seven out of ten times when they run away to reposition they deagro due to the stealth armors perks
>>557062002Perhaps they do. It's simply outside the scope of what we see
>>557063438>Immediately assumes that cheaters are motivated solely to rob ArrowheadDo you take the boot up your ass too?
>>557059440i think the autocannon being belt fed would be pretty nice
>>557063604>I know I'll get chewed out for this post but (plays the game how his autistic self wants)ogeyy
>>557057506GGs, that was some great tank blitzkrieg.
>Coyote>Laser pistol>Quasar >Orb strike>Orb Gatling>Rocket Sentry>pineapple grenade Cyberstan is getting spanked by meI dont know the Cyber meta now but this is giving me fun
>>557063604The problem with going all defensive is that you become a slave to the loadouts of your teammates when it comes to a tsunami of heavy armor. This is why everyman Jack of all trades loadouts exist, because good players can't rely on the team to do the most basic shit.Every time I entertain not taking direct-fire AT on bots, I'm inundated with lobbies completely incapable of shooting down gunships. It doesn't bother me, I'm a stealthfag so the gunships don't even see me, but I'll watch that thing eat away our reinforcements because the three stooges on the other side of the map can't shoot it down.
>>557063780Rrrat
>shoot bot chasing me with the xbow roughly 15m away, far away from the predicted explosion>I explode as the bolt seemingly hits thin air>apparently the bot was right up on my face from his viewwhat
>>557063741>Doubling down on thinking every SC spawned in is taken directly from arrowheads bank accountsYou have no idea how things work.
>>557063863invisible corpse, get used to it
>>557063901Holy kek what a retard.
>>557063830That is an extremely fair opinion Anon and agree with that as well.
>>557063961>Tripling downYou realize companies are aware there are some people that just never spend money on premium content and dont care at all? So you doing this is literally a big nothing to Arrowhead because youre not profits lost. Youre profits that never existed. Sorry to ruin your fantasy of you being some rugged thief like that bud, but I actually know how the world works.
>>557063901It's more like a lost sale than money stolen. Which may as well be the same thing when it comes to businesses.
we all know the best weapon for gunships is Epoch
redpill me on the pyrotech grenadetotal garbage or misunderstood?
Metal MACHINE!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEK44KtSsjE
>>557064192See: >>557064178Even the most Gacha of Gacha games have people that never spend money and the company knows this. They already got a sale off him anyway. He bought the game.
>>557064214My favorite is the Accelerator Rifle. One to the engine and it's dead.
>>557063574>DE Tridentthat would actually be broken
>>557064214It's actually las cannon
Cyberstan>CyberstanCyberstan>CyberstanCyberstan>CyberstanCyberstan Edition™steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243664033776/76561197986229160>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243664033776/76561197986229160
>>557064214No it's the railgun
>>557064367oh fuggg de drident :DDDDDD
>>557064428FVLL
>>557064367Personally, I want a LAS DMR which shoots via a variable charge, that produces heat based on charge time/amount.I think it'd be sweet.
Cyberstan's abundant AAA has made me realize how much that I was crutching on strafing run
>>557064287remarkable anti-chaff if you can throw decentlyincredibly powerful anti-heavy if you can throw perfectly. the sparks are ap6 and can kill harvesters, striders, hulks, etcit's a high skill ceiling weapon that's also just relatively serviceable for throwing into crowds to farm kills
>>557061547>I just saw a patrol spawn 10 feet in front of me, it's ust like hecking D-Day!>nooo don't bring up issues with the game!You are barely sapient
>>557062817>D4 is the equivalent of D1 if youre not colossal dogshit at the game.normally, yes, but it takes far longer to do them, especially on Cyberstan. Lots more spawns to deal with and the distance between targets is further. A good team could churn out Cyberstan D4s pretty fast, but not as fast as a solo run D1 anywhere else.
Are Vox Engines on hulk spawns tickets or something? I've had an extraction just now where they spawned 4 in front of us out of thin air, and then the bot drop slapped 3 more right on top of the beacon.I don't know what kind of zany wacky ticket system swiggers use for the unit spawn, but they have to rebalance this shit either way. It's like we're back to the y1 time where they fucked up terminids' heavy spawns and the only winning move was to just run away and avoid the enemy.Shit sucks with how both tanky and damaging the new Vox Engines are.Cyborg enemies are 10/10 tho
>>557064579Cyberstan's AA envelope appears to be really small though. You go two blocks away and the AA no longer works and can strafe all you want. I adjusted just by using orbital gatling, which you can call down once a minute. It's pretty much the "No, you're not going to creep up on me actually" strat.
>>557061580The bugs are repeatedly called "fascist", so the implication is that there is a leader.
Are AT mines any good against Vox niggers?
>>557064841From what I understand there is a set number of Heavies that can spawn. Each heavy takes a number of points, Hulks < War Striders < Tanks < Factory StridersIt seems the Vox Engines are clogging up so many heavy slots that the only other heavy I see is the occasional hulk.
Okay I had a chance to try out Cyberstan.Vox engines are OK until there's three or more of them. Two with a swarm of other enemies behind them is also ass, but kinda tolerable. I do wish AH fixed the one-way corpse cover bug, though. It isn't fun to create a gigantic cover for the enemies that they don't give a fuck about and can shoot through whenever you kill a vox.War striders still take the worst enemy award. They take way too fucking many HMG shots into the ass vent to die. They also form a very nasty anti-everything "combo" with the Vox engines: AT that kills striders does almost jack shit against the engines. Also you want thermites for the striders, but thermites can't kill Vox assholes.Cybestan terrain and missions are OK. I just wish they didn't spawn the enemies so close to you.Also, take orbital gatling.
>>557064902they dont even work against hulks nigger
>>557064902Just use Levelers on them. The only thing I hate about Voxes is that they look like mechanized dildos made for your mom.
>>557064579The inability to just Eagle 500kg a problematic area or an objective structure has got me falling back on OPS.
>>557061580Yeah, it's a constant propaganda line that any time they do anything intelligent seeming its just an accident and they are stupid animals. In the first game they signed a formal treaty with the Illuminate and Cyborgs
>>557045254Gas grenade is in my opinion best in slot versus both bugs and squids. It's my default against those factions and unless I'm going for variety, I don't have a lot of reason to take other grenades. The gas backpack is also a very nice shitter crutch against bugs like predator and rupture strain. The fact that you can dodge a charger/flesh mob and your little bot will completely immobilize it is insanely powerful.
>>557064984>I do wish AH fixed the one-way corpse cover bug, though. It isn't fun to create a gigantic cover for the enemies that they don't give a fuck about and can shoot throughI can't believe they STILL haven't fixed this, I thought the Hulk surge on Lesath a few days ago was going to be kino but this shit ruined it for me
>>557064984>Cybestan terraincucks strat placement because sweden thinks it's funnier to let strats bounce to completely random areas or roll on the ground getting nothing accomplished>Also, take orbitalall orbitals suck because they have to reposition even in open space and will fire at an angle killing nothing because of all the walls and buildings, I stopped taking orbital gatling and took solo silo instead
>>557064567that's actually a cool idea
sentrymaxxing was always the most effective playstyle it's just kind of boring
>>557065436On Cyberstan my sentrys all get immediately raped without killing much of anything
Couldn't get SC cheat farm to work, fug. Other commands did work, is it borked rn?
>>557065474its just classic swigger spite>use your stratagems>not the green ones>not half the red ones>ugh ugh skill issue, lower the difficulty
>>557065474It's the smoke grenades the cyborgs are throwing, which breaks LoS for turrets, that's why I refrained from using sentries on every dive
>vox rockets can oneshot even if they don't directly hit you while in medium armorTop zozzle
>>557064993>he didn't get AT Mine killstreaks during Hulkamania
How do (You) save K2 from this
>forced failure MO>we're only going to take 1, maybe 2 citiesVery underwhelming compared to the squid invasion where they took like 4 planets in 3 days before managing to capture and destroy all but one mega city on Super Earth
>>557065646By experimental way I found out today that if you die one time at the map sc and medal farming stops working.
>>557065646still works for mealso this site has the most annoying captcha system in existence, no wonder there's so many lurkers
What's best with Siege passive for botsPunisher or Slug shotgun?I like how fast the armor makes me reload shotguns but I dont have the slug yet
>>557065704lower the difficulty chud
>>557065687sentries are priority targets and the new tank has factory strider levels of detection combined with indirect aoe bombardement
>>557064643I still have like 3-4 more relevant bonds to unlock before ceremony, and the grenade seems like the biggest draw for it. All the other stuff is nice flavor or fun, but nothing remarkable or game changing.
>>557065768Tell him to hide under one of them until the others destroy it, then repeat
>>557065768tell him to lower the difficulty
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>>557065839>>557065861Hm, I'm just getting >[Error] Couldn't find Resupply Pod slot.So I can't even enable it. And yes, captcha is killing this place.
>>557048250I've never heard of darkstalkers, but I've seen this character posted a few times now, and I want to say I respect you for subtly posting your waifu here without being a fag about it.
>>557066018private
>>557065670You are a retard
>>557066136What a strange post.
>>557065885I don't really use shotguns on bots but I'd guess the regular punisher is better than the slugger
>>557066018>private
>>557066046That`s new. Try to change planet.
Is shield grenade worth taking over thermite?
>>557066220it actually feels fun to use the slugger on the cyborgs, they are stunlocked to death
>>557060632back to 3/4sabotage air base missionjoin NOW
>>557066180enjoy your 45$ cbt session
>>557065768just shoot the vents bro, now excuse me, I'm off to slurp more swedish semen
>>557066174>>557066223sorry, try again
>>557066297Its okay since the leveler exists.
>>557065807it's because we're the baddies chud
>>557065768blame him for letting shtf in the first place
i like the lunar new year armour to go with the new chinese voicesi love chinese women have you thanked the chinese for saving super earth today?
>>557059440Laser cannon has been powercrept so hard it's not even funny. They should have increased its penetration instead of the GL, it would still be pretty mediocre but at least you could DPS more heavies.
>>557066609i remember when lc on bots was viable
>>557066686we all remember the time before war striders, anon
>>557066582That's nice Chang
>>557066609>>557066686>melts devastator heads>kills hulk eyes quickly>vaporizes chaffidk it seems pretty good to me, you have 3 other strategem slots and 3 other equipment slots to deal with the other enemies
>no mod to fix the absolutely fucking rancid laser designator sights grim
>>557066842Yeah, before War Striders I could solo entire bot missions with the LC only. Now I actually have to use my other strats on them
thank you china! saviours of super earth!
I hope the chinamen just hack and spam a hundred extracts as a fuck you to AH
>>557066842small aoe orbitals and eagle are powercreeped too, strafing run, rocket pods or 500mg cant deal with heavies, neither can gattling and airburst. only one semi good one is eas and ops, the meta from fucking launch day. The only truly good strats on bots are turrets, even bombardements are meme tier for base clearing >and 3 other equipment slotsif swiggers intented us to gear shuffle they would have added a second support weapon slot or lowered cooldown to something sane
>>557066842>melts devastator headsEvery weapon does that>kills hulk eyes quicklyEvery AP4 weapon does that>vaporizes chaffEvery weapon does thatIt's completely mid, it used to be pretty decent but it's definitely a war strider victim like that other anon said
>>557066272Tried, happens even in ship. Probably because I use Linux or something. Do people host sc drop farm lobbies here? Else I will just grind the old arrow way.
>>557066842primaries unironically kill chaff faster. the laser cannon has this annoying damage build up on chaff.
Im always host. But I never do more than one mission in an OP at a time because thats roughly 30 minutes and I need at least a 5 minute break before another mission. So I always cancel lobby and start on mission 2 with new people. Is this frowned upon?
Wiki claims the shield bubble throwable pops vox vents. Anyone try it?
>>557067276I look and act like this
>>557067292>500mg cant deal with heaviesOf course 500mg bombs can't deal with heavies. That's a tiny amount of explosives!
>>557067306Do we have any AP4 Primaries?
>>557067656eruptor, torcher
>>557063604You will not get chewed out because instead of bitching, you're looking to solve your skill issue and overcome it instead of crying to AH for an enemy nerf.
>>557067628i dont know what happened, since it got fixed last year, but ever since i returned in december the dynamite grenade hits harder than the 500kg, which is just insane
>>557066842The LC's problem is and has always been low DPS. You get overrun with it where other weapons would be fine. Also, while it has "infinite" ammo, the magazine is quite small so you can only kill a few enemies before either reloading or letting it cool down.
>>557067329Try this.https://files.catbox.moe/w53pii.pdffuck arrowhead
d10 cyberstan steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243672561446/76561198066017633
Are there even people that want the Vox nerfed? All I'm seeing is people wanting AH to unfuck the deranged spawnrate
Wait, you can set up cheat SC farms and not get banned? I thought they had a kernel anti cheat specifically so this wouldn't happen
>>55706776260 day patch and heavy rework happened.AH buffed the damage of all anti-tank weapons. For the OPS and 500kg, they only buffed the direct impact damage. So, they do jack shit to heavies unless the projectile itself hits.OPS is just kinda useless now and 500kg is chaff and structure clear.
>>557067845>All I'm seeing is people wanting AH to unfuck the deranged spawnrateThat is a nerf
>>557067762I feel like they broke it again, I don't know when exactly but at some point it stopped killing bile titans consistently (again)
>>557067780the lc was fun with the jumppack combination back when gunships were released and jammer and detector toweres required getting close
>>557059440AC lost it's crown on bots but is still S tier on bugs and squids.
>>557067791My hero, thank you very much.
>>557067845Yeah I think the Vox is fine, about as durable as a factory strider but way deadlier without the spawning of extra enemies. Problem is when it spawns an entire convoy out of the blue.
The redacted gear lets you be really sneaky on cyberstan the rest of the team gets in battles while you blow up objectives with C4. Nothing super well defended and you can always throw an orbital or laser at detectors.
>>557065768he ded
>>5570678033
>>557065768just lower the difficulty bro, now excuse me, I'm off posting child porn
>>557067329make a lobby and post the invite code
>>557067791Thanks. Edit: What the fuck, a man fucking a dolphin??
>>557067945and that is pissing me off the most about this game. the enitre gimmick are stratagems and while half are outright useless we maybe get one new red per year
>>557067845They will want it to be nerfed if Arrowhead won't take immediate action and actually unfuck the spawn rate just like they did with the war striders.No one would have wanted War Striders to be nerfed either if it didn't replace hulks and tank spawns
>>557065768AT emplacement.
>>557065936>The vox hes hiding under shoots him through its own bodyOof, tough break, guy.
>>557067957my favorite combo used to be HMG + jumppack, shit was fun as fuck and I had to manage my ammo a lot but it worked really wellthen we got war striders and HMG fell from the decent tier straight to F tier
>>5570678034
>>557067791Good shit, gonna give it a try too. Thanks anon.
haven't touched this game since 2024, how is the stealth?
>>557068058steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243674053533/76561198025334742
>>557068204This, the highest difficulty should be an ebin silly sandbox
for me its the censor + stealth armor secret snipper build for cyberstan missions. i sometimes bring c4, sometimes AMR + backpack shield
>>557068395>t. brownoid
>>557068378decent if you shill out ten bucks for the stealth battlepass>>557068395>making most of the arsenal unuseable is good gamedesign actually
>>557068378Stealth is the best it has ever been right now
>>557063604>Democracy Protects armorsHonestly I've seen the same thing with the proc as well. I also heard some vague rumor that some Chinamen are using DP-00 with the Botslayer cape from the Cutting Edge warbond which makes it proc even more. That is probably a placebo and wishful thinking though, or maybe Chink trickery. It may need more testing.
>>557068378commando missions kinda suck imo but stealth armor + silenced guns work quite well for regular missions as just a way to cut down on being spotted from half a map away and having half the map aggro you when you kill 1 bot. you dont have to go full stealth, you can just rely on it when its handy
if you want to make the most out of the arsenal, just play bugs or squids :^)
>>557068395>all bots including the new niggervox follow a clear design guideline>expect one, that one doesnt count>slurp slurp slurp slurp
You know, for the popularity of the bugs, and the story importance of squids, I feel like bots are the iconic HD2 enemy faction. Most of the homegrown memes revolve around them. D9 launch bot invasion, Malevelon Creek, ragdolls, stratagem jammer, now this.
So which support weapons are good against war striders?Here's what I've got so far:>Recoilless Rifle
>>557068483>HMG is unusable because it doesn't one shot 1 enemy type
>>557068195I feel like this only happens to me when I'm hostingBut yeah, it's bullshit and yet another case of shartrowhead not playtesting their game
>>557068204HMG has enough ammo to kill 7 war striders by shooting their legs (large target that can be reliably hit from any range). RR can kill 6.So many people in this general are held back by retarded ammo anxiety.
Okay, I tried D7 and D8 and I think I'm going to stick to that for the rest of the operation. It's seriously just so much better balanced and more fun. There's a shit-ton more Cyborgs instead of just regular old Hulks and Vox engines.
>>557067926The anti-cheat does nothing but crash the game when it detects tampering and even then it's not that hard to bypass. I know it sounds surreal, you'd think snoy of all companies would be anal about potential lost profits, I didn't believe it either at first when I started the game, but it is how it is.
>>557067845They should either lower the spawn rate or make them easier to kill. In their current state, they are just unfun to fight.>>557068378Better with the dedicated stealth armor and silenced guns available.
>>557068636nice bait i rate it eight out of eightalso, the current thread meme is seething at the vox machines. keep up, kiddo.
>>557068672>they only two health pools enemies can have is one shot or bulletsponge
>>557068594i think arrowhead is now admitting that the gameplay only really works well on bot missions and that the other fronts are just dumb minigames in comparison. like even on a pure satisfaction level its much more fun to dismantle bots and blow them up than it is to gib bugs. and dont get me even started on how much of a bother it is to fight overseers. and fleshmobs are a good enemy in concept (big unarmored enemy that adds a use case for the shitty machineguns) but theyre just not fun to fight
>>557063604>>557068565Is Democracy Protects better than the good old extra padding default armor? Because that shit has saved my life so many times on these missions versus having an AR of 100.
>>557067926There hasn't been a banwave since ricardo samuel dropped cheats in this place. Only seethewave from AH bootlickers.The chinese, korean and russians have never been banned for it either despite cheating far longer before.
Where the fuck are these supposed vents? I dont see them.
>>557068676>when I'm hostingnot him,. that shit happened to me in an /hdg/ lobby just yesterdayeverything /hdg/ is complaining about (vox spam, vox materialization, patrol materialization, strategem cucking, vox not dying, etc.) has happened to me at least once
>>557068378Actually really solid. Redacted Regiment took stealth from a complete garbage meme to a completely valid way to play against bots and squids. Albeit with squids you have to go full non-confrontation, because the Overseers not having insta-kill weakpoints for light pen weapons means you just alert them if you try to take them out.
>>557068919they are visible on lower difficulties
>>557066396GGs fun lobby
>>557068835>that the other fronts are just dumb minigames in comparison. like even on a pure satisfaction level its much more fun to dismantle bots and blow them up than it is to gib bugs.Then why are bugs the only faction that have such a dedicated fanbase they will play bugs no matter what is happening in the rest of the galaxy? Bugs tap into the starship trooper, horde shooter fantasy like nothing else. Also, you get way higher kill streaks.
d10 borgssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243674053618/76561198878711915
>>557068678Okay, spreadheet warrior. Let's see you do that!
>>557068835That's just your opinionI think bugs and bots are both fun and the gameplay works well but for squids the issue is just the fact that they're incomplete and not even actual Illuminate
>>557069036bug players are gamerdads who cannot enjoy the game on as many levels as i and my peers do
The Coyote deserved a nerf, Medium primaries are just a ridiculous concept
>>557068678some people never train beyond the shooting range...
>>557069036>Then why are bugs the only faction that have such a dedicated fanbase they will play bugs no matter what is happening in the rest of the galaxy?Because bugs are the brainless easy mode faction that is hard countered by the W key. It's gamerdads favorite. When AH tried to make them harder with predditors and hive worlds bugfags got mad and demanded nerfs instantly.
I havent played squids in so long I forgot they introduced council members as an enemy. I defend that faction too.
>>557068610Squids dont really have any units that can do shit to you once you figure them out, we dont have any of the unique units like the Illusionists from the first game and bugs are solved by simply running away from them. Ever since launch bots have felt like the only enemies that feel like youre in an actual space war
>>557069185the sheer seethe of botkeks at an actual heavy enemy for once eclipses whatever outrage there was about hive worlds or predditors
>>557069148The medium ARs suck ass. Coyote, LibPen, and Judy... all shit compared to the Liberator, LibCarbine, and Tendie. I'll take more damage, more stagger, and more durable damage at the cost of having to slightly aim my gun.
>>557069091Are you the same guy who begged in previous threads to see how to kill war striders with AC and then moved the goalpost when someone showed you?Well you do it the same with HMG. Go dig up the webms from previous threads if you want to.
>>557068901I personally don't really use extra padding so I can't verify that but I can see the point.
>>557068835I like the sniper stuff from the squids in concept, but in practice, it is less fun to play. Still, I wish they left the leviathan unnerfed.
>>557069072Timed out.
>>557063089*Sends cookies*
>>557068636I barely notice the eye weakspot, most of the time you're going to be fighting it and a bunch of other enemies so you don't really have time to line up your shots. When it does a grenade barrage, the smoke takes a few seconds to clear and by the time it did it's already sending another one. It also moves a lot and pretty quickly, making it hard to track the tiny shitty hitbox. Is this a skill issue? I know it's only a 3 shot kill but when I try to take one down with the AMR or AC it always takes at least a mag.
>>557069337You mean the guy that cherry picked a single, unalerted war strider to shoot at like 10m and still missed the eye like twice?Try do that in an actual combat situation where a bunch of war striders are spamming screenshake lasers and ragdoll nades at you and you will see the problem
>>557069287It's not even close and you know it fag
>Drop directly to bot fab>DeadWTF
>>557069646it takes like 5 shots to the hip joints, much easier and much more consistent. people actually try the eyes?
Have AH nerfed predators at all? I came back for Cyberstan, but once that is over, I want to do Predator and would be upset if AH nerfed them.
>>557065092>In the first game they signed a formal treaty with the Illuminate and CyborgsWith what fingers??
so i got the sc/medals korean mod someone posted here a few days ago--really awesome and thx for that! is there a similar mod that REALLY highlights samples as well?
>>557069646LOL so it's you. I don't think you can be convinced that shooting a large target for 3 seconds is a viable strategy so I won't bother.But if your position is being showered in ragdoll nades then you aren't reloading the RR either. That's why you were given reds.
>>557052148explosive crossbow + crisper as a sidearm
>>557069854do you have brain damage, by chance?
>>557069842Why would you think they nerfed them? They're pretty easy.
>>557067845That's it, just lower the spawns>>557067936No it's sweden unfucking their retardationnot every piece of bullshit slipped through their asscrack should be handwaved as "increased difficulty" at some point you have to realize these people are just incompetent and dont test anything
Lobby doko ?
>>557069708should have lowered the difficulty
>>557069842Yes, you just bring the Gas Dog.
>>557069925It's amazing watching you fight strawmen and ignoring the actual point. But what else can you expect from a nerfnigger, you lot are incapable of arguing in good faith.
>>557069947redpill me on the crisper
Lowered difficulty status?
I wish we could set level requirements. I dont care about your ebin reddit moment of a cadet dropping a 380 on extract and killing everyone. Go do that shit in your own lobby.
>>557070120Sóyrage.
Ok but why do the instagib cannons on the vox engine have 8000 health??
>>557070138>>557068705
No New Bread until we secure the Autonomy Megafactory
>>557070223To fuck over the last spearcuck in the game, because the lock-on will prioritize the cannons over the body, making every singe shot require tardwrangeling the lock-on
>>557070223skill issue
Is the supposed cheat that you people are talking about just the one on rpghq where light pillars show up on super credit drops? or is there an actual cheat table that makes them spawn in or some shit
>>557070128basically wanted to test if I can kill the vox engine with it (you can't) but it works kinda well against CQC horde
>>557070363Spearbros... arrowhead is mocking us again
>>557070363working as indented
what the vox doin
>>557069970hey no need to be rude. was setting up my buddy with the sc/medals mod, and he asked if there was something similar for samples. it wouldn't surprise me if someone made one.
>>557070530being realistic and believable in your milisim grunt fantasy
>>557070451I wish spear and wasp was viable. RR is just too boring
>>557070530just go under it and throw a grenade
>>5570678033/4
>>557070530cosplaying pee pee can 1
>>557070530What's the problem, exactly? Just shoot the back vents and toss a grenade in the hatch...
>>557067604>laser cannon has this annoying damage build upThis is actually fucking annoying as hell.The Scythe can pop heads with a gentle sweep, so the LC should be able to instantly pop heads, yeah?No! Cause apparently it takes 3 seconds for it to register as "dealing damage", taking as much time or longer to kill enemies that the Scythe can already dispatch.
I am bored with cyberstan already. >explosions everywhere>get ragdolled around>die>respawn and run away Is there more to this or should I just come back next week?
>>557070887Bye returnfag. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
>>557070887Suit yourself. But you could just lower the difficulty.
>>557070887play D7
Bake a new one you stupid niggers
>>557070887Are you enjoying the good old rundiver meta? this is how every d9 mission was like before the 60 day patch
>>557071064i'm shy
>>557071064Just wait for page 10 you faggot
I hate the VOX maschine so fucking much
>>557070941>>557070971>>557071010Some people are satisfied with the bare fucking minimum I guess. Half the stratagem are useless on cyberstan. I guarantee I have played this game more than you.
>>557071151Except people unironically used personal shield backpacks then, so it was still harder then.
>>557070971Higher difficulty doesnt mean the devs get to bullshit the playersit's the "is the difficulty mechanics or numbers" meme and the swedes apparently cannot into making competent enemy mechanics, instead they just make the numbers bigger.More enemies, more spam, more of everything unchecked without taking into account enemy diversity and try to make them one shot you.You died because there was nothing you could have done ! This enemy one tapped you ! You randomly died because the game decided so !isnt this a good idea of difficulty ? Are you enjoying playing our game ?
>>557071151bots were piss easy before the 60 day patchall the good bot weapons got powercreeped while bug weapons got nerfed
>>557071343Wow, more than me? Good job gamer.
>>557070223because Sweden fucking demands your suffering, you retard>>557070363>SpearI used that shit once and realized it was dogass and never took it again. How the fuck are there always diehard users of the most terrible options imaginable?
I LOVE DIVING ON CYBERSTANI LOVE KILLING TRAITOROUS CYBORGSI LOVE BLOWING UP VOX ENGINES
>>557071343I'm satisfied with balance. If the swedes were too drunk to playtest the Vox at higher difficulties, and if D7/D8 are the sweet spot, then I'll play that. I don't need my balls to get stepped on. I'm trying to have fun, something you seem incapable of. Maybe Dota or War Thunder is more your speed.
>>557071343>I guarantee I have played this game more than you.That's pretty embarrassing to admit since you're getting filtered this hard.
Can we just agree by now that Vox Engines by themselves are fine and shouldn't be tuned or nerfed but the rate at which they spawn is not?
>>557071389>It isnt difficult, it is just x
>Dive into pug>Strats jammed>Ragdoll>Die>Return to destroyer
>>557071064Bake it yourself
>>557071581That's the reasonable take. Sadly, our thread schizos aren't reasonable.
>>557071389Yeah yeah we know, artificial difficulty n shieet. It's ok.
>>557071343>I guarantee I have played this game more than you.and yet you sit here and seethe about how you cant do anything, meanwhile I am having fun blowing shit up
>>557071581Thats the main issue with them. When theres 2 of them or such in the city its fine because theres plenty of cover and room to move. But during extract where theres 5 of the fucking things and youre forced to stay in a small radius so the pelican will arrive and theyre being supported by a horde, it just becomes a shitfest.
Will GL get nerfed?
>>557071581Rocket damage should be reduced a little, otherwise it's perfect aside from the ghastly spawnrate.
I love the cyborgs, but Vox Engines are just tedious...
>>557070530They're probably former BF3/4 javelin enjoyers, I don't ever use it either but I understand the appeal of top-attack ATGMs
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243676208635/ONE MORE CHINAMAN
>>557071151rundiving is peak helldivers imo. there should be so many enemies on the highest difficulties that you can never kill them all if you are setting off reinforcements. instead best your arty should do is cut a hole in their line so you can escape through it
>>557071581More important is to make it so they aren't dropped LITERALLY RIGHT ON YOUR HEAD. Something is extremely fucked with how non-flare bot drops work on cyberstan.
>>557071839Fug I mean to reply to >>557071479
>New biome and big event>Release enemy thats so badly designed it sours the entire event (Leviathans, aimbotting rupture strain, now vox's)>Wont be fixed until months from now because arrowheads swedish arrogance refuses to address the one issue everyone on the fucking planet is repeating>By the time its fixed the damage is already done and leaves a sour lasting impressionI'm tired, boss.
So fucking sick of joining a randoms and the fucking niggers triggering bot drops on the objective then leaving you alone to deal with shit while they flee to the other side of the fucking map.
>>557071581I'd like to see a "weakspot" added that lets you kill one with two anti-tank shots instead of three. It doesn't have to be large, just there.But yeah it's the insane spawn rate that makes them unbearable.
>>557071581Remember the old scientist evacuation missions where you could get swamped by like a half dozen Bile Titans or Factory Striders, and the AT was so shit you didn't have the time or volume of fire to be able to kill them before more spawned? Those were the days.
>>557071998Play another game
>WTF, why are there 5 voxes on D10 on the capital planet of my enemy? >AH, please fixJust play on D7. Why are you guys so mad?
>>557071839>>557071979Yeah I want the wasp and spear to be good too, but sweden is just barely fixing major issues like secondary booze sway two years after "launch." Spearcucks are FUCKED for at least two more years and I just don't want them to suffer by having to cope and be miserable while using them
>>557072030Those are the people saying the game is too easy, btw.
>There's too many Vox Engines!>Why doesn't my AT one shot them?!>Tedious gameplay!>Unfair!You know what has to be done. LTD.
>>557071960Getting the dropped on top of you is good though, it saves you the time and effort of having to approach it under fire to do a vent kill.
>>557072152There are 5 on D7 and D8 too.I lowered the difficulty.It did nothing.
>>557071998>game's lifeblood is those updates that bring thousands of players back>never do any playtesting for said updatesWhy are swedes like this
>late NA hours last night>everyone loving the update>peak shitbong hours now>suddenly everyone seething and filtered by the voxHellbomb can kill 5+ voxes at once btw if they're close together. C4 can kill 2 per resupply box in 5 seconds from 50m away. Unlike war striders (STILL btw) that require bullshit heavy pen thermite crutches, vox's actually have lightpen weakpoints that with a grenade you can kill them in 3 seconds with. (I am aware it's hard with 2+ of them but that's what the AoE shit is for)>>557071564I was never a LTDfag but I'm becoming one. I want to get raped by voxes on d10 and I played d7 with a few returning frens last night to not get completely shit on and that was fun too. Lowering The Difficulty on cyberstan still results in a game that can keep you awake, unlike the rest of the game.
>>557072289well there are 0 at D6
>>557070887t. nigger not wearing one of the many explosive resist armors
>>557071581>Can we just agree by now that [IMMEDIATELY NOTICABLE THING ANYONE WHO DROPPED TO CYBERSTAN GOT TO EXPERIENCE] is not fine?anyone who says no is equivalent to that one congressman who voted no on releasing the epstien files>>557071960>More important is to make it so they aren't dropped LITERALLY RIGHT ON YOUR HEAD.fucking this too holy shit
>>557071581I'm fine with individual Vox balance but the rockets should be nerfed a bit. Not the speed but the damage is so much it's usually nothing or insta-gib. Although it is nice to have a Vox wipe out a bot squad.
>>557072343>>late NA hours last night>>everyone loving the updateI too like to lie and make shit up.
>>557072362No, there were 3 on D6 from a single drop.
>>557072343The freebies are gone (extra stim and shield relay) as well.
>>557072289>I lowered the difficulty>It did nothingplay Tigger's Honey Hunt
The easiest way to tell if an enemy is an actual problem or not is based on how hard people here are spamming "lower the difficulty" and how hard theyre trying to troll people over it.Ergo, Vox are an issue.
The fucking state of D7 pubs. This is what you get dropped into. Just like the olden days.
>>557072298Swedes have a physical aversion to testing something before releasing it.Just look at pretty much every game released by Paradox.
>there are still people trying to liberate Aurora Baywhy
>>557072542Nah, I'll just go back to regular bot D10s, thanks.
>The easiest way to tell if an enemy is an actual problem or no-PSSSHHTTTTTTT
The Super Earth Anthem playing next to the flag when you are surrounded by enemies and are 100% going to die is so kino.
>>557072668Jeet brigade must die.
>>557071613It is difficult, through arbitrary bullshit (pump number up) instead of engaging mechanics and enemy variety.I have no issue with a hard enemy, i have an issue with spawning several of them because the devs have run out of ideas on how to make the game difficult and instead rely on making you spend more time shooting at somethingYou cant run, cyborgs and gunships catch up to you. You cant outrange the enemy because they don't have range limits either. So you have to stand and fight. But the devs don't seem to like that, so they punish you at every chance they get.I havent seen a tank in several operations because war striders just outright replace them in drops. Tank brigade spawns ? More infantry instead of spamming the toughest enemy ? No, they just make sure you get to fight the hardest enemy in the pool and crank the spawn rates, instead of thinking about doing ANYTHING ELSE.Cyberstan is an incredibly cool biome, but if you think one shot mechanics and tough enemy spam is fine is either trolling or retarded.Vox engines shouldnt spawn in pairs or more. They shouldnt be airdropped either. War striders shouldnt replace tanks. mechanics, not numbers. And if you pump number, make sure the low and intermediary tier enemies get the treatment first. Fuck, give us up armored basic automatons that dont die from a stiff breeze if you really want harder enemies. Make the base enemies harder to fight, instead of having to create a new enemy and pump it to bullshit numbers. to make sure the player diesMy rant is unfocused as shit and i hate it, but im tired of retards and bait posters
>>557072668classic bots is more fun than whatever the fuck iluminatistan is
>>557072613>If it's hard for me it must be hard for everyone elseno I won't give you a webm, nigger
>>557072712Living example of what >>557072613 posted
>>557072423Everyone complained in the first cyberstan thread, but by last night almost everything I saw in the thread regarding vox's was kinoposting.>>557072460Ahhh I haven't had a chance to get on today. That's fair that's a huge shift in difficulty. I was thinking last night that the shield relay was super nice and it's gonna feel bad getting rocket'd once those are gone.
>>557072298They have no time for QA. Their sextuple annual vacations fill up too much of their schedule.
>>557072645>rocket pods>walker>jump pack>autocannon sentry>tank>500kg>can't even find more than three bot fabs to blow up in 12 minutes>D7literally how, I'd be extracting by now after clearing the map solo with just GL + supply pack
>>557072829>Euroshitters love guzzling swede cumWhose side are you on?
>>557072343>late NA hours last night>everyone loving the update>peak shitbong hours nowYep, sounds about right.>suddenly everyone seething and filtered by the vox
Coyote is best overall primary for bots right?I know what strats to use but everyone has another opinion for primary guns.
>>557072971Eruptor
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243679622237/76561197995866779Cyberstania on D10, all are welcome
>>557072613This would be true if the only factor in people struggling was the game and everyone's skill was equal. But since skill disparity is the second variable here, this heuristic isn't always the case.People are still trolling and getting trolled, but it's because people are bad or are playing with shit teammates.
>>557072460Yeah, I think they should have kept the shield freebee. That made it more kino. I could see the removal leading to a shift in perception. Same with the stim desu
>>557072613Yeah, a skill issue to be exact LMFAODrop the act and lower it.
>>557071151This new run meta is annoying but what pisses me off more is that these maps don't even have super credits or poi supplies. There is no point exploring. Just run around. Blow up the spawners and leave.
>>557072971the censor+large mag is king of bots
>>557073082Even people good at the game say the vox spam at extract is bad
>>557065223It's an issue so impossible to solve they would have to hire Fins to fix it!
>>557073060I dont want to pull out my gun just to pull the pin in the face of deathLove the eruptor but in emergencies its useless
>>557073067failed
>>557073067full
>>557065931Mfw I unlocked ceremony first because of the meme strut emote. Been using the nade for sometime and had secret esoteric knowledge that it was godteir disguised as shit.
>>557073193bro, your sidearm?
>>557073146LTD but alright I'll give ya that. Even with the shield relay extract has been hard as fuck or impossible.
>>557073067sorry to the other anon your spot was... STOLEN!!!
>>557072971Tenderizer is great if you can aim. Diligence counter sniper is best overall though.
>>557073370>>557073110Living example of what >>557072613 said
>>557072971If my calculations are correct then it's just barely short of 2 shotting cyborg heads. So not quite
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>>557073146My only issue with the spawn spam is the enemies clipping into each other. It's really immersion breaking to see 4 Vox occupying the same space, or killing a cyborg just to see a body fly away from the cyborg in the exact same spot and animation still running at you. Otherwise I think the enemy spam is kino. Lower the difficulty.
>>557073438foul sloppa
>>557073371i got fucking disconnected for some damn reason
>>557073415In my post >>557073370I literally conceded the point lol. LTD is funny so I said it but also unironically in this case people should do it.
>>557073438>"Lower the difficulty"Proved me right. Vox are an issue. Thank you for providing an example for the thread.
Spoon feed me on smoke grenades.Can i use cyborgs smoke grenades to conceal and disengage?Should i throw my grenades down or were i am going?Any other tricks to increase my survivability when my squad decides they wanna hold up and fight infinite waves for 20 minutes?
>>557073438>Using AI to tell people to lower the difficultyMaybe you should learn to draw.
>>557072971punisher plasma is very good for general bots, specialized in clearing every chaff including cyborg/dev groups, but it can't really do shit to vents so vox engine spam invalidates it right nowcoyote, MA5C, Diligence CS are good takes right away because they can shoot off vents and are med pen for easier takedowns of shit like rocket chickenslibcarb, tenderizer especially, diligence original recipe and something else I'm forgetting are great chaff clear and non-aimlet gunstrident doesn't do shit to vents but is minmaxed for chaff clear>>557073134large mag is like lv23 he probably wants something good out of the box
>>557073438>the LTD nigger is also the AI niggerSelf-report, but we knew. You can't both make AIslop like this and have a triple digit IQ at the same time.
>Only 57% of 1 city done so far, there's 8 in total.
i lowered the difficulty and it fixed my skill issue
>>557073745Thank you for being an adult... rare thing around here
>>557073582>Vox are an issuepicrel
>>557073624I use smoke grenades to extend cover if I mistime my orbital smoke screen. Especially with how many hellbombs you need to plant on some missions.
>>557073745d6 is unironically the best way to play, no annoying tank spam, plus playing with actual noobs is more fun than playing with shitters
>>557073743Maybe they'll rig it by changing it so that "High Command" will commit more troops if the troops already there show success making the bar refresh each time a city falls?
>>557067618t. avg american leftist
I understand that ragdoll is a feature of this game, but this shit is more annoying than it makes the game difficult or cinematic. These idiots don't understand how an explosion works, and they haven't even tried to set it up.
>>557073905They already pulled 70 million out their ass.
I'm good for now as well, L4ggs
>>557072971properly using the trident is the king of Cyberstan.
>>557073743We're not trying to take every mega factory, just Transcendence. The dispatch said we would need to select our path there strategically.
>>557073886It's painfully obvious that the devs don't play d7+.
>>557074158>>557074158>>557074158evacuate
I tried the libcarb and liked it.It works, at least on Cyberstan where there's too much close quarters combat for plasma weapons and DCS. Melts the cyborgs real good, and vertical grip + flash hider for almost no recoil makes hitting dev heads or legs easy.
>>557073927hell yeah uber pwnage
>>557074145>He doesnt think Joel is trying recreate the invasion of super earth but were the squids this timeYou WILL have your railroaded MO where you take every single city and you WILL raze planets or i will punish you!
>>557073986It's mostly so bad because of such a focus on bots where half of the enemies that they're spamming 80% of the time now can ragdoll you per hit. It's not about being cinematic, it's about being the funny meme game with silly deaths and ridiculous things alongside all the chaos, which is why anything that sends you upwards has the character flailing like a cartoon and they bounce around like all that equipment has zero weight. And unfortunately the only equipment that can stop that shit will instead glitch your ass into the terrain instead of properly stop ragdolling and turn you into a red smear for it..
>>557074195Didn't they say that when people were asking for super helldive?Or was it that they couldn't beat Helldive.
>>557060676Does scorcher still slap after the durability buffs? I had a blast grinding out the patterns for it. Might be time to take it off the shelf.
>>557074314I was going to refer you to the picture in the post you replied to, but then I realized it wouldn't help you, because of the picture in the post you replied to.
>>557074304i talk like this
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243676208635/ni hao to any rice farmers
we failed a mission because we couldn't call a hellbomb for the last fuel reserve because the entire area was a no-stratagem zone
>>557077898ok
>>557072613the only issue is the spawn rate
>>557077898Had a destroy control tower mission before and we couldn't interact with the box to call in the package.
>>557073067THANK you for the GAMES ANONSnice to see how quickly vox can be killed by getting behind it, and the 120mm barrages were on point
Weee!
It was an honor to be on the same lottery work assignment crew with you, my chinese niggas. Glory to the CCP!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8x4m-qpmJ8
