Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!/sthg/ #9055 - Scourge the Ultimate Hedgehog Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offshttps://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - 04 March 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 11 March 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 08 April 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OC info:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>557014026
>>557053513Scourge is the reason for my degradation fetish, I hate him.
My big eyed cutie
>>557053342 (me)>>557053565overall LLM translations are not so bad, i thought i could get worse
>>557053707Isn’t he though?
>>557053654 tell me moarpost examples
marine's prodigious puff-puffs
Ashura, Scourge, ManicWhich green do you take?I'm leaving Surge out, she's not a hedgehog.
>>557053818EVERYONE AT MY HOME IS NAMED TILLS OF NIPPON SHIPPO-My bad translator app 2026
>>557053856Cup size: MMMMMMarine
>>557053874Who the fuck is Ashura?
>>557053874Amy's a green hedgehog.
>>557054036Color palette glitch in the second game that the public gave a name.
>>557054036https://info.sonicretro.org/Ashura
>>557054036Sparky's sister
>>557054036NewfagSurge's dad essentially.
>>557054182SHUT UP THAT’S WRONG
Tills of nippon shippo.
>>557053853What do you want me to say?
>>557054156How does a creature have no hips and a lotta hip at the same time?
>>557054146Fan redesign is so much better
>>557054221No i saw him before i'm just not autistic enough to care
>>557054221NoIt’s a COLOR PALETTE GLITCH
>>557054346Not even close to what he looks like.
>>557054262Tills of nippon shippo
>>557054262>origin of the sun tailThat's what I assume this transited to
>>557051104>Yakuza is now having alternative timelines>For the love of god, do the same thing with Sonic.Those are just more shitty retcons that they've been doing for years, not an alternative timeline. Dead Souls is the only alternative timeline and Sonic Frontiers already has an alternative timeline for it's ending.
>>557054429That's why it's better
Cream the Rabbit.
>>557054346I like this fan redesign better
>>557053874Who the fuck would choose Manic?
>>557054705Cute his tongue too in case he decides to suicide
>>557054705oh man
>>557054854This guy >>557054346
>>557054346He looks like he would hang out with Coldsteel
>>557054705>>557054858>>557054863And this is why you're all still virgins.
>>557054854Manic can look good if you make his hair make sense
>>557055020yep ...........................
>>557055020Because I fap to human worms ?
>>557053998heh.
>>557055038nta, got any examples?
>>557055020because i post gore on internet?
>>557055161>human wormsWot?
>>557055234shush, that looks fine there
>>557055234Feast your eyes
>>557055190Abt really chunks the fuck out of Marine, got bonefide chode on our hands.
>>557055419Made me audibly exhale from my nose.But, pretty spot on if he were redesigned off his character, which is a drummer who was raised in a ghetto and has a profession in stealing and has joined a resistance group
>>557055419He looks like he fucks human women
>>557055672He also looks like he takes drugs and will die young
>>557054296well, mostly just post some example
bat tats
>>557053818Why did the LLM localize sign as autograph AAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIENOOO I NEED THIS AS NIHONGO NO SHIPPU INTENDED
Douge
>>557055361That looks like the opposite of fine respectfully.>>557055419Nice art but an inconsistent nightmare design for a Sonic character.
Chinese girls fuck hedgehogs
>Shadow kill everyone >Everyone Maria?>Everyone >Even the children?>Even the children>And the babies?>And the babies>Even your family?>Everyone means everyone There are people who watch jujutsu and still cope about what everyone means https://x.com/i/status/2021567807842882019
>>557056069Never let an Indian woman alone with your animals
>>557056150Anti-Shadow’s backstory
>>557056461>OCshitFuck off Woefag
Woetard posted? Thread ruined
>Conan the HedgehogCute.
Post more hot OCs
They look so in love
good morning samefag
>>557056689Damn I completely forgot about the girl. is the manga still going?
Sol Knuckles
>>557056689Zero shame
>>557052985>Anon doesn't know that alternate timelines means they can keep IDW and other SoA creations into their own, separate timeline than trying to make everything canon in a single timeline Retard.
>>557056891>spoilerYes and the anime has over a thousand episodes like One Piece
>>557057043What's shameful about it?
>>557056891That is the one piece of the mystery manga. the day it dies means the day shogakukan dies. Same the die One piece dies, it's the die shueisha dies.
>>557056717
>>557057326>Same the die One piece dies, it's the die shueisha dies.your sentences started melting there
So we're over the Tangle/Whisper voices now, yeah?
>>557056717Why Sega doesn't make them like this?
>>557057448looks like it
>>557057326If One Piece dies then they'll either make a sequel or a spin-off focusing on a lesser known character, as the series is filled with thousands of beloved characters that can be exploded upon.
>>557057448You just brought it up so no
>>557057326Kagurabachi will save Weekly Shonen Jump
>>557056717>>557057436off topic shit
>>557056964I like the idea, a little too cutesy, the clothes need to be streamline in color choices. I personally think a yellow color scheme would run with Blaze and Marine better,
>>557057762Enough time has passed.
>>557057571Good point. I'm sorry.
>>557054705funny I had a similar idea except Amy just took his legs. Then Amy was murdered by Eggman and Tails
Sex with mobian children
>>557057438Too many die die die made day turn into die. But you can guess what I mean.>>557057552From previous experiences, no sequel gets the same quality or love as the main series. Boruto, DBsuper, Samurai 8, etc. Shueisha knows that, and that's why they are trying really hard to keep Oda from ending the series, since they have yet to get something as big as their old "Big 3".
>>557057448I don't know why people even give a shit about it when the Sonic series hasn't gotten good english voice acting since Free Riders. Just fucking play the games with the Japanese dub already.
>>557057786you can stop pretending to care about that
>>557058112no woe, we won't talk about ocs
>>557058252not him, he hasn't posted in half a year
>>557053513Fiona wants that Scourge cock.
>>557057869You gotta go with the secondary colors like the Chaotix to contrast STK
>>557057934> Festival released on on the week of Valentine's Day instead of T&W, who's festival is two weeks later> Spared us from even more unbearable gayposting onlineSay thank you to the monkey
>>557058690>Scourge and Fiona are prison mates with Donkey Kong, Bubsy, Falco and Frogger
>>557057075Forces idea is kinda already a different timeline. It just tha tafter Forces, Iizuka had the great idea of trying to unify everything into that timeline and probably would be able to, if he actually had competent people in that lore team.
I hate ooc. That's why I make up bullshit reasons for any ooc fantasies I have. Do I want Shadow and Amy to fuck, even though they don't care about each other? Bam, stuck in a cave together with aphrodisiac mushrooms that release horny spores.
>warned for grotesque guro images>out of all the shit posted here on a daily basisreport deez nuts faggit
>>557058690How did nobody get pregnant if they had a co-ed Prison?
>>557059015>Say thank you to the monkeyHIS NAME IS SUPER MONKEY BALL
>>557059015They said that T&W's release date was unchanged though so AiAi didn't do anything. It's a funny shitpost though.
>>557056891It is, it has more chapters and episodes than One Piece last I checked. Have this reaction image on the house.
>>557059478they're all very, very gay
>>557060789it's true, i was there
>>557057436
>>557060828did you have a good time?
>>557061080It was pretty tiring getting my ass blasted everyday, but we all got to rape Scourge in the butt so it was all good.
>>557057502They'd rather appear publicly as a wholesome and child-friendly company rather than make some real mo'fuckin' money.
>>557058402Dude literally posted less than a month ago, and still admits he browses here
> IDW Publishing Gets Savaged by Comic Professionals For Their Bad Business Practiceshttps://www.fandompulse.com/p/idw-publishing-gets-savaged-by-comicThis company is only alive by Mephiles's will, I'm telling you
>>557061527That's right i do.
>>557061724sage isn't hotshe is beautiful and pretty and perfect!
>>557060414Requesting this with Tails or Cream. I'm pretty sure the context is Conan trying to drink alcohol.
>>557061603Hey look, it's the Lucario fucker.
>>557061490Fuck you and a half, Shadow.
Driving in my truck right after a beerHey that bump is shaped like a queerDUIHow about you dieI'll go 100 milesAn hourLittle do you know I filled up on gasImma get your cyborg-making assPulverize this fuckWith my SparkytruckIt seems you're out of luckTRUCKBeer is on the seatBlood is on the grassWon't admit defeatWith bots right up my assYou may have a fleetBut still I'm drivin fastI'll never be passedI just saved the worldFrom a psycho clownKilled a ducky curBetter than showdownGave this truck a whirlHeavy is my crownBut I won't go downDrive drive drive, but I am speed7 beers are all I needTry just try, but I will leadI bet that you're peeing your pantsDrive drive drive, but I'll still speed7 beers, a pinch of weedHave fried fried fried my brain, I needSome more in to do the deedDrive drive drive, but I am speed7 beers are all I needTry just try, but I will leadI bet that you're peeing your pantsDrive drive drive, but I'll still speed7 beers, a pinch of weedHave fried fried fried my brain, I needSome more to do the deedShit, did my dumbass just really hit the seaNow I get up on my feet and try to fleeBut I can't run, was it maybe all that weedIf I speak to them, maybe I'll be freeBut they've got guns, what happens when they see my weedDid I really just rhyme weed with weedAight listenI can't be arrestedI'm like a green hedgehog or some shitIn another universeAnd that queer has a warp topazI'm doing this world a favorPleaseDon't lock me upI just saved the worldMy thanks is 30 years to lifeFor that doc to be aliveAnd me to miss boywifeCan't be in a cageMy sanity's gonna dieI've got a drippy to raiseI don't need more liesImma start hiding seeI can only cry and mopeThere'll be a hog inside of meIf I drop the fucking soapI just wanna go homeWish I had time stonesNow I'm stuck behind barsWhile my drip is getting flownK DripI'll miss youGo save the islandAlsoFuck SonicAnd his haircut
>>557061818I wanna lick her vagina...
>>557053998
>>557061818
>>557062183your titties are too fucking big
>>557061986That wouldn’t stop Tails
>>557061617Woefag, genuinely, and I mean genuinely, no one wants you here. The day you slithered out of the abortion bucket and decided to post for the first time, everyone’s time here instantly became worse. You have added nothing here. You have added nothing to your life. You have added nothing to anyone’s life.I find it ironic that you have to create an entire universe of characters in your head, because you know well and good that no one in real life wants to be associated with you. Not one of us cares. You just can’t realize that. Whether it’s because you have an ego, or if it’s because you’re retarded, it doesn’t matter. Once anyone has an iota of pushback against your bullshit, you cry like the little bitch you are and flee the scene while pissing your pants.You can try to argue that people do indeed care and the fact they made artwork of your visual hemorrhoids proves it. It doesn’t. They’re mocking you for their own entertainment. They’re jingling keys in front of an adult with the mental acuity of an infant for THEIR amusement, not yours.No one has ever come to your defense here. Not even you have. You know why? You know I’m right. You know everything I’m saying is correct, but you’d rather shut yourself off from the world and gather fake validation from situations you create in your head. You know who else does the same? Fucking Chris Chan. At least he had the skill and dedication to actually attempt to do something with his creations. You just sit back with your finger in your ass pushing off all the hard work onto others.You’re a leech, a parasite that sucks up all they can reach their hands on. You’re a no life nerd whose closest experience to pussy is what you can search up on your screen and goon to while your parents wonder where they went wrong.I’d tell you to go get a life, but that’d imply you could actually amount to anything.
>>557058982I know, it's predictable though. You don't want your designs too safe and too thematic.That's what I like about Sonic, despite having his design borrowing elements of Mickey Mouse, there's no boundry or limits the franchise holds to, it has no rules. It doesn't care about what's "appropriate" or "tone", once you understand that it's up to you on how to feel about it instead of what it's suppose to be, you'll find a multitude of different atmospheres this franchise was willing to do. Genies, Wizards, A mission impossible epic, Chao Gardens, there's lots a Youtube video essay will tell is you what Sonic does is weird and dumb, but it's just because it didn't stay in the lines of expectations, whether that was because it wasn't good at reading the room or knew what it was doing. Of course it isn't like that now, but there's cracks of them remembering and doing weird shit, like Evangeleon inspired stories or giving Shadow T-virus wings.So they should make her blue.
>>557062992*kisses you*
>>557062992
>>557062105>Queer shaped people
Sonic
>>557056717>>557057436kys woefag
>>557063178
>>557054863How does that work? Why would him having a tongue let him commit suicide?
>samefag melty
Silver
Genuinely asking what woefag did wrong.
>>557063446
Shadow
>>557062370rude!
https://files.catbox.moe/82stq4.jpeghttps://files.catbox.moe/ak6695.jpeg
>>557063547>pic of shadow browsing this thread
Amy
Metal
>>557062105>Hey that bump is shaped like a queerit's pronounced "deer!"
>>557063953LOL
>>557063547>>557063673Ah the sthg experience
>>557063178>He needs fake Shadow shoes to run on the waterHow weak is this Sonic in comparison to others?
>>557063282Bleed yourself to death
krack wonwoe wonduo wonYou? lost.
>>557064306The biggest loser is randomfox.
no, krack definitely lost
>mfw no trailer tomorrow either
>>557063602just sayin
>>557061603Now I get why a Penders tweet got more numbers than a IDW official announcement. But it's not that hard to fix a few things there and increase the people that would be willing to read some of the stuff. All they have to do is to keep their writer from pushing political agenda on their stories and kick the ones that don't conform. This would literally solve 90% of the problems. The other 10% would be to stop sending more to Israel, maybe this will help the financial struggles.
>>557058103Why should we play a dying dub from a dying language?With the exception of Italian (only here instead of Portuguese for being a legacy root language in the Latin family) and Korean (subtitled) Japanese is the least-widely-used supported language here, by far.You want something more windy, less insufferable? Play the games in literally any other dub. They've been available since Generations. Or don't, because the English voices are getting more work to the point sometimes it's the onlu option in lesser mainline titles (i.e. Dream Team).It's almost like the growth of an insular island language thrives on roping squeaky autists in.
that's like50 posts per day since 2011
>>557063639First isn't loading for me.
>>557061603>Savaged by Comic ProfessionalsTell me one single comic professional who didn't sell like shit in the last 10 years. These people don't deserve to give their opinion about anything, professionals my ass
>>557064280>Chris was rich and had a family so he couldn't sadBoiling everything down to this kind of nonsense to denounce other's suffering cause it doesn't check the right boxes is why suicide is so prevelent in today's society.
>>557064782I don't care.
I can't believe how much SA2 suck so fucking much. Is that really the pinnacle of this shitty franchise? I'm gonna finish this but the controls are cancer (classic old game), and the gameplay is mid and cheap with knuckles having the most interest gameplay.And the animations is so fucking cheap that if you told me a faggot made it with a computer in his garage i wouldn't believe you, a garage guy would make it much better with some credibility. The story is the most creative part, completely broken by the half assed dialogue, it makes every character looks retarded.
>Burger school hours>Suddenly namefag gossip explodes in post countlike cluntwerk
>>557062992NTA but I want him here, just to make you mad.
>>557065130Yeah sorry you felt for it. The people who talk in a positive light about that game are entirely blinded by nostalgia
>>557065130>>557065265Trolling is an art
>>557062992I've been called woefag at least three times and still don't know who he is.
>>557064702Polish is also lower, I think>*Xbox and PC onlyfor what purpose
>>557065130If you play the PC version without mods it's no wonderGet that SA Mod Manager running
>>557065332Trolling my ass, i didn't play SA1 but so far it's not promising at all. Like that other anon said i probably fell for autism bait.
Stop staring at me with those big yellow eyes
>>557065607Man, I got to transfer all my mods over to Steam deck, I was so close to getting all A ranks, the closest I've ever been.
>>557065607Is SA2 mod-perfect yet? I know SA1 practically is.
>>557064702do Chinese even play Sonic
I miss 90s American Sonic so bad. whenever I see anything old from SatAM or Archie or AoStH be it official or fanmade, I can't help but feel nostalgic and sad... I hate shitga
>>557065358Sonadow asteroid strike incoming
I threw up just now
>>557065996Don't let it go to waste
I am such a fucking idiot for coming close sonic again, what am i even doing with my life at this point?Why even playing videogames? i don't even enjoy videogames anymore. I am so stupid, stupid, BAKA
>>557065934SatAM looked like ass, the hell you talking about? The action was trash for what's supposed to be an action adventure series.
>>557065640When someone plays a game from long ago that is held in regard for the sole purpose of denouncing it. This is nostalgia sniping, and is nothing more than a brand of contrarianism.
>>557066023
>>557066080Motherfucker I ain't no dog. Fuck away from me.
>>557066161nevermind, i can't even play videogames without looking for small things because i grew up, my only regret is giving sega my money. I am the ultimate idiot form.
The worst part of Sonic Adventure 2 is there's no cock sucking minigame, there's nothing to appeal to me at all in this! Worst game!
>>557066219
>>557066381I paid 10 dollars 12 years ago.
>>557065736
>>557066443
>>557065996Anyone got the one of Fiona throwing up?Better yet, anyone got a full MobiusIsFlat archive? The booru doesn't even have half of them.
sexy sonic neets
>>557065772SA2 modding works perfectly fine. Just download the SA Mod Manager and put it in the SA2 local files, it might ask you for directions to where SA2 is stored on your PC. It's been long time since I did it so I don't remember or just watch an youtube videoThen you got to Gamebanana to dowload your mods, /sthg/ has a Sonic Mod Recommendations Spreadsheet in the GENERAL INTEREST LINKS if you don't know where to starts
>>557066526You could have spent it in hot dogs.
krack has sex with sammyclassicsonicfan
>>557066617
>>557063092Ew>>557063114And it still won’t get through to him>>557064306What the fuck did Woefag win? Biggest Failure?>>557065232>Wanting Woefag to postThere’s a word for those people; Masochists.>>557065484The more you deflect, the more obvious it becomes.
>>557066618I got (You), man.
>>557066790
>>557066618That's because the booru is trash and not used for its intended purpose since MobiusIsFlat wasn't part of the cult.
three fionas
schizo is easy to bait it seems
>>557066947
>>557064416did he respond to lesbianvoices yetI still can't get over that he was somewhat eloquent circa Movie 2, did he get dropped on his head between then and Movie 3?
>>557065175He's a very boring schizo
>>557067119Poor Jet
Dunno why you get so mad at me, i am the best poster around here.
THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONICI WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYINGI WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFOREI DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHITGENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
>>557067029You'll see Hotshelter archiving Bobo's slop but not actual /sthg/ content.
>>557066148imagine gatekeeping what people are allowed to enjoy
>>557067119
monkee time
>>557066618>he chose to have his works of art die in obscuritywhy
Reminder that Tangle and Whisper will never be lesbians. Because homosexuality wasn't in their character pitches, SEGA and Sonic Team will never consider them homosexuals. Simple as. They were never designed to be gay, so they'll never be gay.
i am so fucking sad
Who's your favourite OC /sthg/?
>>557067675He made actual content for the general but we don't have an actual site to preserve it.
>>557067864bump & sage don't really count, so i choose cigs
Good morning.I will suck Shadow's perfectly sculpted dainty pink dick and fondle his soft velvety black balls.
Why do these freaks want all the tomboys to be dykes? It's like they think every sporty chick with short hair has to be into munching carpet. Isn't that stereotyping? I thought they hated that shit?
>>557067941(i do like kelvin though)
>>557067825Can you tell that to the twittards?
>>557067864I like how i don't know even a SINGLE SHITTY LITERALLY WHO GAY OC IN THIS LIST
>>557067941Bump and Sage count. They don't have to be from the picture.Mine is also Cigs but I'm biased.
>>557067864They couldn't possibly make birds more ugly in that awful character creator
>>557067864oujosama bunny sex
>>557067864fuck off woefag
>>557068126You should play Forces anon. It was okay.
>>557067864I recognize cigs but not the others, how old is this picture?
And Sonadow is no lower than #40
Post characters I'd want to have sex with
>>557066691NTA but>all the good restoration mods make the games more similar to their original Dreamcast counterpartsso why not>download the REDUMP ISOs>boot up Flycast>tweak pixel/texture setting>maybe throw in a widescreen or cutscene hackholy shit I solved Sonic Adventure modding forever.
>>557068068>Why do these freaks want all the tomboys to be dykes?Because americans are inbred low iq retards and, like you said, can't live without turning every old bigotry into a new stereotype that fuels their fantasies for validation.Which is why every effeminate man is now a faggot and not just a man with girly mannerism, and every tomboy is a lesbianigger and not just a sporty woman.
>>5570684272017
>>557068427Same time Forces came out. 2017?
>>557068456
>>557067864sage forever
>>557068068Tomboys and Tomgirls are Gods gift to Earth showing how you can act outside gender norms while still being comfortable in the gender you're born with without chopping off your tits or dick and trannies just can't handle it>"You are an insult and make us trans people look bad!"I really want more cool boyish girls and cute feminine boys in media but LGBT community has to turn those characters either gay or trans
>>557069098facts
sonic was chris' therapy dog
>>557069420there's something about her face that I don't like with this model
>>557068465You can do way more with the Steam versions of SA1 and SA2 with the SA Mod Manager if you really want to make those games the best they can be. Not just bring back old stuff but improve the overall game
>>557068456Wow anon you sure are gay.
Last I tried PC modding once but it was bloated as fuck, how do people put up with that?
>>557069928Get into skyrim moding... You will see what bloating is.
>>557069928The only problem is if the game is crashing but you don't know which mods is causing it, usually I find it out soon enough. That's just something you got to deal with
>>557070176... y'know what, I think I just fucking hate mods now.
>>557068068As a horny straight tomboy I feel genocided. I need representation.
>>557065358SEGA won't even let Sonic be straight
This is going to be me when I find Shadow
>>557070393How horny are you?
>>557067864Mine
>>557070393I find that hard to believe considering the general we're inbut sure
>>557070545Snowball a cute!
Is there an autism overlap between japfags and modfags?
All these years and SADX still has no Bounce Bracelet mod>but..That works
>>557070756I only know there's an autism overlap for modfags and transfags
>>557070538I spent the last week doing almost nothing but gooning to boys. My absence from other sites is noticeable and people are concerned, but I still haven't answered them because I'm not done yet.
>>557070970Which type of boys do you goon to?
>>557070478Sega is so dumb and immature for this
>>557070756modfags are a kind of autism that go way beyond anything this general has ever had... Most people that are actual into moding are literal goblins will spends hours a day changing and fixing things so they can go around raping every npc the game has... Also, it's 16 hours fixing mods to 15 minutes of playing the game...
https://xcancel.com/SpiritSonic/status/1571240768408555520#m
>>557071436Why didnt she justDraw another doodleThis pic explains jack shit
>>557070545Wolf>Rabbit>Cat>Hedgehog>Dog>Bird>BearI'm still mad they didn't include lizards.
>>557071436Sexy fuckin' boobwolf.
https://files.catbox.moe/4fmph9.jpeg
Hey guysI made the Definitive Romhack!>*squeezes something under-playtested out of my asscheeks that breaks unrelated parts of the game and is prone to locking things up*I'm gonna spam it until ya like it!
>>557071728Sexy but also kinda sad.
>>557071591Sega purposely half-asses new features like this so people hate it and they never have to do it again.
>>557071728Even in lewds this bitch wouldn't stop crying.
>>557071436>>557057448
>>557071728STOP FUCKING CRYING
>>557068829Sonic copped that.
RF is a case study that really amuses me. He's backed into a corner now with IDW where he has to change the definition of canon to pretend it isn't. His final last cope is that even if they do appear in the games, they'll be strangers to the game cast even though in Sonic Frontiers Sonic already acts like he knows Tangle. He's really clinging to this to the very end huh. One day he'll be forced to face reality
>>557065737>I got to transfer all my mods over to Steam deckHow did you make that work? Last time I've checked people had to download so many packages just to only get the Modloader running that I never bother to do it afterwards.
OCs are cool
>>557072565heh, poor Knux.
>>557072794Stop making the tomboy a lesbo. Why the hell would she be into her anyway?
>>557072794This is surprisingly accurate almost, but you mistakenly had Silver's arrow pointing away from Blaze
>>557072805
Reminder that it's A-OK to portray OCs having the hots for Sonic on-screen. Sonic just can't reciprocate. So if Tangle said he was a hottie or Jewel got redfaced around him, that'd be fine.
>>557065737>>557072641You can either download those mods on your Steam Decks web browser or use an USB Flash Drive and drag all those mods from your PC onto it and then plug into your Steam Deck
>>557072794>Me stood right behind Whisper>Tangle 'n Blaze can come watch if they like
>>557073065I wanna cum in every Sonic OC!
>>557072794Why is Silvisper so popular?
>>557059015Isn't that worse though since we get two waves of gayposting instead of just burning through it all at once
>>557072794Why is Blaze even in this pic? Cuckaze???
>>557073335She'll leave (You) dryer than sandpaper.
>>557066626Wait Blaze was in forces?!
>>557073065cute rabbit
>>557072805>>557073065>>557073335>>557073595Fuck off Woefag
>>557067825>Before: you're not allowed to have gay characters in Sonic period.>Currently (as far as we know): okay you're allowed to now but only if they're pitched that way from the start.What makes you so certain Ian and Evan haven't broke through that already.
>>557073741Thanks! Her name's Custard.
>>557072794Evil horse BlazeCrossworlds model for Blaze is so goofy she like tripped on something
Sheep wife
>>557073513The won't show her bare hands because then they had to confirm that Sonic characters do in fact have finger nails
>>557073352Anon this is the 57th time you asked this question here
>>557073936
>>557073893Off topic shit. Fuck off
>>557073994heh, gross.
>>557073936That's soundwave
Fatass
>>557074178Make me, you prick.
On the next episode of the Sonic Presents: The Chaotix Casefiles...>Whisper tries ASMR and Tangle tries AM2R!
>>557074053And I will keep asking it because I simply do not understand why it's still a thing
>>557073936sheep?boob wife
>>557067864Jirai
>my wife doesn't have boobswhat did i miss anonsalso is this a stupid question to ask /sthg/
>>557074885
>>557074712Cause of two reasons, Silver and Whisper are good to one another and Tangle and Whisper are NOT good to one another, you can pick one.
>>557073936Boobadnic
>>557075015>They say breasts are full of men's hopes and dreamsSoft and fun to squeeze and hold and motorboat.
>>557075015Flat girls are tighter.
Rate it>Whisper was part of Infinite's squad>They were tasked with dealing with "Team Dark">Shadow's in one zone, with Rouge and Omega in another>Infinite goes for Shadow solo since he's the Ultimate Mercenary>Whisper tells him to be safe>Infinte tells her he will>Infinite encounters Rouge and Omega instead>It was a setup>His team's facing Shadow>He knows they can't beat him>Infinite rushes to the other zone as fast as he can but it's too late>They're gone.>He finds Whisper's mask, tearfully staring at it and screams>But Whisper didn't die>Her quiet and timid nature got the better of her, and she ran away in the brutal scuffle>She was just too scared to fight, and left her team to their own fates>She's been in hiding until the main plot happens out of shame, guilt and trauma.>She finally decides to hold herself accountable and join the fight as the Forces Avatar>Infinite felt betrayed seeing her alive.>He thought she was the one who set them all up.>Whisper denies this and tries to explain herself>Sonic's arrival proves to Infinite she's lying and that the 2 of them came to kill him>Whisper desperately wants to save him but she might not get that chance
>>557075475
>>557075597Would've been better than the story we got.
OC Franchise.
Guys I wanna sleep so bad but I close my eyes and can't sleep. It's almost 11am and I haven't slept all night. Do I keep trying to sleep or just stay up and hold exhaustion let's me sleep tonight?
>>557075597>Whisper was part of Infinite's squadNot gonna happen ever at this point
>>557076395You need to masturbate first, then sleep will come easy.
>>557076283Lanolin and Cigs sharing a postcoital cigarette.
>>557067864my OC
>>557076678Lanoligs rolls off better
>>557076595>masturbate firstAlready tried at 2am, 3am, 7am, and 10 minutes ago. it doesn't matter what I do. I even tried listening to music and warm milk. Counting Lanolin doesn't work either.
>>557076283facts
>>557076395Melatonin The quick answer in melatonin
>>557076395at least you don't wake up at 4am and stare at the ceiling till morning.
https://youtu.be/K6bPYE2oMtg?si=4qGzE-yxyp4DnUji
>>557077003Insomnia?
>>557072794>Too scared to make the first moveAll he does is move on her. He's never not made his feelings known.
>>557072565They did this shit to knuckles in the fucking baseball ep too
>>557076751Just a little word of advice, we don’t really do OCs around here, so if you show yours people might call you a woefag. I learned that the hard way.
>>557076395Something is bothering you, are you hurt somewhere or do you still have heavy unresolved feelings? if so i'd recommend sleeping in the evening for couple of hours if you can then going back to a normal schedule slowly, if not make what you can with your time sleep always comes to you when you eventually stop caring .
>>557077315idk or care who woefag is desu
>>557076916Lanoligs my balls
>>557076028Thanks>>557076443Eh, I don't care about the comic or audio drama. I just like the characters and wanna do cool stuff with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWVtxflgGo8
>>557077315>peopleIt's one anon. Sega made OCs canon when the made Forces.
>>557076395I pull a lot of all nighters and just end up passing out during the day. I get my phone of iPad and put on a long YouTube video and go in sleep position. If you don’t have anything to do today this should work for a LONG time.
Rouge is taller than Shadow, but Knuckles is taller than her, sorry Shadougefags i don't like it.
>>557077485Got to get a new pair of shoesTo kick it with herNot kick it with you
>>557077750And Sonic is so small he created a black hole
Sonic is gay coded
>>557078006Stop projecting.
>>557075597I think this is dumb and just rapes all of Forces to force Whisper. Whisper's existing story wasn't bad
>>557077750>knuxougefag doesn't like shadougeHow will we survive shadougesisters!?
By now literally everyone knows this
>>557075597>>>557073819>What makes you so certain Ian and Evan haven't broke through that already.Because they can't. They even made tweets saying SEGA isn't very progressive, which should've gotten them fired if they were part of any other company. Like what the fuck? Is SoA protecting them or something?
Whisper if she was a good character
>>557077750Personally I would agree. I go with Sonally, shadamy, and knuxouge,Good to know someone here actually agrees.
>>557078387yeah, we know there are ants posting in herealso, has anyone ever made an ant oc?
>>557078387Tarsal claws posted this
>>557078509too confident
>>557078140>I think this is dumbWhy?>just rapes all of Forces to force WhisperWe're pretending Forces is good now?>Whisper's existing story wasn't badAh, you're being disingenuous.
>>557078568No but speaking of blaze did you know ants love perci
>>557078509Whisper should be like Hinata. Shy and timid. People believe she's cold and calculating due to the mask she would wear and her shy nature.
>>557078437I think it's literally Sega's afraid of riling their sycophants too much.>>557078767I dun geddit.
Getting my wisdom teeth removed
>>557079285Prepare to have your IQ drop.
>>557078437>Is SoA protecting them or something?If Sega was good at paying attention then we wouldn't even have half the problems that we do now.>>557079285Ouch.
>>557075597This is somewhere between "Silver is a descendant of Sonic or Shadow" and "All birds are aliens and related to the Kukku"
>>557079040Reminder that Whisper was basically Tangle before the trauma hit her
shadamy!
>>557079770Nobody actually reads IDW.
>>557078387fixed
https://youtu.be/XuFHyWzv4Nw?si=-XMKPISv9UpbXL8P
>>557079826cnc
>>557079770>Reminder that Whisper was basically Tangle before the trauma hit herThen why is she called Whisper?
>>557078684>WhyI said why>we're just pretendingI don't care about your opinion on Forces. I'm not interested in altering it to accomodate a fucking OC>disingenuousI did not say Whisper in the entire comic was good. Her original story, that being what was shown in her first miniseries, was good. How is that some bad take?
>>557079863Don't make me use this
>>557079770>>557079861>>557079997The Chaotix Casefiles say she's named after the way she talks so either she changed her name or they've already soft retconned that story.
>>557080103That's not what they said
>>557078437Sega held a fundraiser for Mermaids, a UK "charity" that promotes transgenderism to teenagers and Haruki Satomi, the current president and CEO of Sega, is a member of Human Rights Watch, a U.S NGO that believes in transgender children. Sega also takes money from BlackRock and is devoted to promoting ESG and progressive policies in the workplace.
>>557080175Yes it was
>>557079997She was born with that name, just grew into it.Fun fact, the Smithy, Slinger and Claire's real birthnames are "Dead," "Deader" and "Deadest" but they had them legally changed, bet they sure feel foolish now.
>>557080008>I said whyNo you didn't. You just said it was dumb. That's not a reason.>I'm not interested in altering it to accomodate a fucking OCThe irony.>Her original story, that being what was shown in her first miniseries, was good. How is that some bad take?May be good to you, but not good to everybody. Personally, I didn't vibe with it.
>>557078568I just did Closest I could go…Just pair him with PerciHis name is Matthew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGtxRXFjNA
>>557080269No, Mr Kitsch ASSUMED it, and Whisper said "you could say that". It's not a hard confirmation of a retcon just because she didn't explain her life story or that it would've been an ironic joke from when she didn't Whisper. You are just autistic and BAD at consuming media.
>>557077064None on hand.>>557077071At least you can sleep a lil.>>557077117Maybe. Is that something that needs to be diagnosed?>>557077369Not... particularly? Definitely nothing I feel like typing out here, because that's massively off topic.>>557077597That's basically what I'm doing right now.
>>557079826>>557079983Non-canon aesthetic slop for hybristophilic White and Latina yumes who self-insert as Amy.Does picrel look like Shadow loves her?
>>557078387She is going to adopt both? I don't know what you mean
>>557080382>Personally, I didn't vibe with it.Why not?
>>557080571I suggest getting a job
>>557079194I posted a picture of Perci and joked it was “Blaze in boom confirmed” Someone posted the exact same thing as me except the file was smaller. So we said it was for ants. The next file they sent was even smaller so we said ants found 4chan. Then people just kept posting very small pictures of Perci and now there is new lore that ants like Perci so much they post her on 4chan. But the picture has to be small too.
>>557080215
>>557080571yes!
>>557080496No anon, he is the average wikiawriter
>>557080573Both will be in the next movie.
>>557078542>SonallyI yearn for the day the satamfags and archiefags die off.
If you like Mephiles you are a necrophile
>hurr durr woman being taller than man makes sonic ship badquit being a misogynist
>>557080469Sorry forgot the picIt was the closest I could do itOnce again, his name is Matthew.
>>557081073Fuck no.
>>557080913I doubt it. They want to milk the movies as much as they can. They are going to take it slow
>>557080720I suggest you stop believing this is canon because it's not>>557080826So you just admitted Shadamy isn't canon and that you self-insert as Amy because you're a yume with liking for bad boys and you have an "I can fix him" mindset
>>557079145
>>557080969I’m not either, it’s just that Sally was the only one he had a strong relationship in. Amy is obviously better off with Shadow, and Knuxouge is so obvious it hurts.
>>557081052wow!
Prostate exam
>>557078542>I hate Sonic the Hedgehog
>>557080785What's your point? Are you trying to defend what Mermaids and Human Rights Watch did?
>>557080571>archieslopfuck offShadAmy gets canon shipbait in shadow 05 with the power of love ending but you'd rather ignore that to push an agenda.No one Sonic ship is decisively 'canon' but SoJ has nothing against ShadAmy.
>>557076283My only problem with Sonic OCs is that most people only make them out of compulsion since their basic stick figure body type and them being any animal you want makes them both way too easy and way too addictive for people to create. Most of them are create because the variety of animal designs and not because they have in-universe purpose.There is a reason why you don't see many robot OCs or non-animal OCs because those require way more effort and detail.OC villains I fully support because this series lacks a rogues galleryDo we really OCs who are just good guys or self inserts?
>>557081220you just sound upset
>>557081432>soj has nothing against ShadamyExcept sonamy, the main ship of the series...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCAq2cxBVhY
Sonic might as well be an action figure series with how much fans make up stuff about the characters instead of actually reading into them.
>>557080215They didnt
I really like the fanarts of Silver's fucked up childhood
>>557081394Take a number
>>557080571picrel looks like archieshit that would've been canceled in 1998 if sega had better quality control
>>557081419What mermaids and human rights watch do is based and in line with the values of Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm glad to support a progressive company like SEGA that's on the forefront of LGBTQ+ rights.
>>557081394I never said thatI am actually in love with this guys big eyes
>>557081460I'm creating a Zeti OC. I will post him here when he has a design.
>>557081324>I’m not either, it’s just that Sally was the only one he had a strong relationship in.Sonic was OOC to make that happen. Basically a fanfic. You know the official stance on Sonic and marriage or relationships. Anyone defending what Archie did to him hates Sonic.
Odds I fuck SonicEvens I fuck ShadowZero I fuck Silver
>>5570816530 is cheating because it is even, so youd get shadow and silver
>>557077750Not that I like Shadouge, but shorter male taller female is peak
>>557081516That doesn't look fucked up at all, where do you think Sonic and Knuckles sleep?
>>557081324This is the most nonfan crap I have ever read
>>557081653You can't have 3 good choices, there are no stakes
>>5570816531 3 5 7 9
>>557081554you're in love with a puppet that soa pulled out of their ass and soj didn't kill soon enough
>>557081653But 0 is an even number
>>557081773But enough about Belle
>>557081717Were Sonic and Knuckles in mortal danger?
>>557081324>shitsucker american doesn't know what a functioning relationship looks like
>>557081575Name any other character Sonic ACTUALLY had a REAL NOT FORCED relationship with. Amy would be better off with shadow, as Sonic never loved her. And knuxouge is obvious so we’re done with that.
>>557080604>Why not?It's fine I guess, but it isn't what i would've done with it. I'm not the type to just like something just because it's canon. I can enjoy it if I vibe with it anyway, but I didn't in this case. Definitely didn't like how melodramatic the miniseries was with it, which didn't fit Sonic at all. My version isn't even that different from IDW's. It just connects her story to Forces, giving her a compelling arc of redemption, an actual connection to Infinite, and making him more sympathetic and tragic.
https://youtu.be/rqEaZ3KxE6s?si=8p3c96RZaKl3Fvny
>>557080496The writers pay so little attention to each other's work that it's possible. Still Whisper being quiet because of her trauma is part of the general base idea for her so they won't change that. For that same reason though I don't expect her opened eyes to stick.
>>557081906Archiefags just hate Sonic's character. Simple as that. "Sonic" does not appear in Archie comics. Sega hated that shitty "Relationship" and only allowed it because they didn't care what the americans were doing until it was too late.
>>557081432There was no Shadamy shipbait in Shadow 05. Other paths have the word "love" in them and Rouge and Sonic as the heroes who help Shadow. Does that mean he's in love with Sonic? No. With Rouge, maybe
>>557081340he's such a cutiehow are you today, my friend?
>>557081432>ShadAmy gets canon shipbait in shadow 05 with the power of love ending but you'd rather ignore that to push an agenda.We counting What ifs as canon now?
Okay, another bunch of newfags have infiltrated our ranksYou can see it >557081754 or all those uncropped or shitty memesWho betrayed us
>>557082006Why do you keep parading this stupid screenshot like it means something? Gigi is not a main writer. She is not going to be on the same level of access as Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley
>>557081324
>>557081546Reddit, Bluesky, and Tumblr are to your right
>>557081953>licensed comic running without mandates for 20 years >as soon as anyone from sonic team is hired to oversee it they ban itYeah no. Sonic and Sally dating is like Charmander being a water type. It involves a canon piece of Sonic's personality being ignored to perpetuate a ship. Sonally is rightfully dead and the most OOC ship in fiction. Everyone who likes it hates Sonic the Hedgehog. >Amy would be better off with ShadowWhy? Where the fuck did you even get this? They have had one conversation in their entire lives >KnuxougeEh, in Sonic X. In the games I'll just let you have it
>>557081906You know what, fuck Sonally.Sonichilidogs.
>>557082076Not her, but are you on the mood?
Shadow and Rouge are friends with benefits.
>>557081512Yes they did. This is public information. Search it up
>>557081953shadow is everything that makes sonamy impossible but worse, dumbshit
>>557082156>the same level of access as Ian Flynn and Evan StanleyThose spergs don't even have the same level of access as each other, let alone anything significant
>>557082241Who else would Amy be with? Sonic never liked her, and nobody else would care. She should be with someone who actually will care about a real romance. Someone who would be actually mature for more that 5 seconds.
>>557081953Sonally was so forced that ten issues after Archie attempted to make it canon Sega told them Sonic isn't supposed to be in relationships. They never dated for long at all. The only reason it was "allowed" is because Sega wasn't monitoring Archie and SatAM at all.
>>557081953>Amy would be better off with shadowThis guy?
>>557082228i was using 4chan before Bluesky existed
>>557082358"Shadow and Rouge aren't friends."- Sega
>>557081460Sonic OCs should be made as actual characters first and their species second, just wanting to turn an animal into a Sonic character isn't enough. That's how you get characters like Vector, Espio, Charm, Mighty, Ray and Honey
>>557069560The model mostly looks like it's made out of plastic while also having distractingly detailed lips, pupils and eyelidsHer eyebrows moving up without affecting the eyelids at all also makes her head look like it's just some kind of plastic mold over her real head
>>557082076Surviving the awful heat. I hope you are doing well at least.
>>557082439>shadow is more mature than soniceat a dick
>>557081419Sega is not progressive lol.
>>557081953Sonic is canonically not interested in extreme affection but Shadow is even worse in that regard. Sonallyfags are misinformed as fuck but at least they are getting it from Archie. Shadamyfags I will NEVER understand.
>>557082468MARIA IS HIS FRIENDSHADOW WOULD NEVER MARRY A HUMANBut also look at his blank expression
>>557082439>Sonic never liked her
>>557081368when i was little and went for my physicals, my primary doctor used to touch my testicles to make sure they were growing correctly. she told me one was bigger than the other, and the irregular growth could prevent me from having children in the future. years later as an adult having not been to the doctor for a while, now with a new doctor, i instisitvly do what i remember, and pull my pants down and wait for my new doctor to check them. i was surprised to hear that the practice of doctors checking testicle sizes every physical was not a thing that happened, and the only thing they check is my heart, weight and blood. was i molested?
>>557081983>Definitely didn't like how melodramatic the miniseries was with it, which didn't fit Sonic at all.I don't know how you can say this when not only does Forces do the same thing with the Rookie, but you employ the same melodrama in your own fanfic idea here>It just connects her story to ForcesHer story is already connected to Forces. She would not have become a volunteer soldier if not for Forces.>giving her a compelling arc of redemptionHer existing arc is compelling. She was closed off after her loss and learned to open up again>an actual connection to InfiniteThis is not something Whisper needed so I don't know why you advertise it like its a big win>and making him more sympathetic and tragic.Which changes the vision of Infinite a lot, and I'm as eager to hear that out as "what if Sonic was part of a freedom fighter team and fought for a kingdom"
>>557081876Well Silver has worse fighting, tactic, awarness and situation assessments more then both of them
>>557082378All I can see is Ariel, the Little Mermaid game for Sega Genesis
>>557082746No you idiot
>>557082465Imagine how tight her hugs are
>>557082439Anon are you actually unable to separate the characterizations from the western comics from the actual videogames? Shadow is definitely not more mature than Sonic. Sonic is not the kind of guy who would date a strict serious princess. Amy isn't even mentally capable of moving on from Sonic (literally) and she doesn't know Shadow that well compared to Sonic. Archie Sonic is literally out of character to the point that Sega told them to never acknowledge Sonally again WHILE the comic is running.
>>557082746was she cute?
>>557082746>was i molested?What do you think
>>557082754Silver is not a worse fighter, he has defeated millions of Iblis Creatures and Iblis itself several times during his life
>>557082746As an adult, nobody is gonna touch your balls until you requestAlso, your balls arent going to change much
>>557082156>Gigi is not a main writer.Okay, and? The book is only going to have one main writer at a time and they should have some coordination with everyone else writing at the time.
>>557082646They are but only in exchange for ESG money from BlackRock and Vanguard. Sega wouldn't be otherwise
>>557083062it's canon there's two silvers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p2MrZSarU
Archie and Satam did untold damage on how these characters are viewed. This person probably thinks Sonic's personalitty is cocky and hyperactive. If it isn' Sonic Team approved then stfu.
>>557083062That's not what i'm seeing in the comics, an eggpawn and Mimic whooped his ass
>>557082853yes. in memory she kind of reminded me of Tika Sumpter
>>557082782I'm talking about Mermaids, the so-called charity for transgender youth from the U.K
giving anon a handjob
>>557083162It is the EDITOR's job to be on top of things. And he was, that's why Mimic got a prequel before he died.
>>557082309got a couple of things to take care of today, so I'll wait until tomorrow to take a few requests>>557082619I wish it was warm here...
>>557081953Either a bait post or someone who never touched the games
>>557081542Sega to this day doesn't have good quality control. That's why IDW still exists
>>557083197The new canon is that main Silver is the same from 06 but doesn't remember Blaze or how Iblis vanished
>>557083342Nigga, just fucking post a screencap, I dont have the time
>>557083348ok
"Shadow is more mature than Sonic" is a self report. Shadow is straight up more childish than Sonic across the games. Sonic gives mature advice while Shadow loses control whenever Maria is mentioned and misreads situations all the time. This is literally the product of shitty unmitigated western comics and all comicfags have to fucking die.
>>557083631https://x.com/SEGA/status/1532014178420006912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1532014178420006912%7Ctwgr%5E0a5da56981b1b74af8c348a6e6440843c3a01c12%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegamer.com%2Fsega-trans-charity-mermaids-fundraiser%2Fhttps://x.com/SEGA/status/1534913308419145731https://x.com/SEGAHARDlight/status/1401888131654291458https://mermaidsuk.org.uk/about-us/
Sonic games are fun am I right?
https://youtu.be/ibWkp7OFB_A?si=-AjdE5JHdh6a6UjO
>>557083808Sonic games are great. Sonic comics are terrible. Sonic games have always been fun and interesting.
>>557082747>I don't know how you can say this when not only does Forces do the same thing with the Rookie, but you employ the same melodrama in your own fanfic idea hereThat's why execution is key. For me, I wouldn't have her dwell on it through dialogue, making it way too melodramatic and serious, but through visuals. I'm very for show don't tell, especially for Sonic. Something like this should never be in Sonic.>Her existing arc is compellingStill think that now?>This is not something Whisper needed so I don't know why you advertise it like its a big winIt gives the Forces Avatar, who Whisper replaces, an actual connection to Infinite rather than being some rando nobody who fights him because eh.>Which changes the vision of Infinite a lotYes, it makes him cool and not lame. His theme actually fits now.>I'm as eager to hear that out as "what if Sonic was part of a freedom fighter team and fought for a kingdom"I was never into that. Rather hed be an occassional ally to the Freedom Fighters, than be on any actual teams. The guy who comes to save the day when all else fails.
>>557083290IDW can't even get the series tone or the characters right. Meanwhile Sonic Channel stories has Silver has him written as a competent fighter
>>557083808Yeah
>>557083364Why didn't the editor tell her then? Why wasn't Duo referenced at all in #79 then?
>>557083808Speaking of, how are those pc fan ports of the advance games coming along? I've itching to revisit the games but I don't want to bother with the originals and their screen crunch
>>557083690Shadow acts way more calm and behaved in Japanese versions meanwhile the English one have him act like an ill tempered jerk
>>557083630That's not the new canon that's what they've always said.
Here's how I feel about OCs. IIDW and Archie do it wrong. You shouldn't just add OCs just for the sake of it. An OC should only come into the story when they're serving a purpose that doesn't fit a canon character.If you need an uwu soft boy who is clumsy and worships Whisper then just make up a new character because that isn't Silver the Hedgehog. If you need a brainlet antihero who will run into a zombie horde without a solution then pick someone who isn't Shadow. If you need a cocky dude with attitude who has a redemption fetish make a new character because that isn't Sonic. Use those new characters to explain something about Sonic instead of adding random new character traits. OCs aren't automatically bad. Yuuta is a great example of an OC that highlights what we know about an existing character.
>>557084072Someone translate this to american
>>557082439sonallyfags will never beat the "we don't understand childrens videogame characters" allegations
>>557084185
>>557084256IDW is made with the mindset of "fixing" and deconstructing Sonic while only having a very surface level understanding of Sonic and its characters.
>>557084072>Taco language
>Silver gets erased in 06>Time Eater brings him and Mephiles back in Generations>Shadow's appearance is explained in ShadGens>Silver's back for real and hangs with the others in the Present>This is why he's with them in Forces>Bro's stuck because his future was still erased, making him a time anomaly
>>557084072I am GLAD that Auraver shit FAILED and that Silverfags are stuck with IDW Silver FOREVER
>>557084575>Brown
>>557084659Well there's always Amy. Let HER fight Future Sage.
>>557084607Silver showed up in Colors DS which he references on the Sweet Mountain race track in Crossworlds
>>557084272
>>557084493Yeah, that's what they've always said. They've never said he was from a good future.>But Colors DSThat's him commenting on the state of the future BECAUSE he's seen worse.
>>557084659IDW Silver or UWUver is no longer alive due to Crossworlds, Crossworlds itself is what made rise to Silverfags, so these incompetent writer fucks have to take notes from it now and not TSR.
>>557084563OCs also shouldn't take the spotlight from the characters we're actually here fore. That is truly bad. Lanolin and Surge for example are both built around something that just isn't true about Sonic's character. Maybe if we had a character named captain justice who never jailed villains and always let them be free due to his psychotic view on freedom that tells him Erazor is somehow worse than Eggman then sure. But no they make Sonic do this to justify Surge's rage at him.
>>557084779>>557084575jej
>>557083930>For me, I wouldn't have her dwell on it through dialogue, making it way too melodramatic and serious, but through visuals. I'm very for show don't tell, especially for Sonic.It was a comic and she was explaining it to Tangle. How would that not have dialogue?>It gives the Forces Avatar, who Whisper replaces, an actual connection to Infinite rather than being some rando nobody who fights him because eh.Did you play the game? Or even watch the cutscenes? Rookie did not fight Infinite "because eh", he has the exact same backstory as Infinite himself, someone stronger than him killed people around him and then spared him. "I'm very for show don't tell" but you don't understand the basic parallel of their story?>Yes, it makes him cool and not lame.What you think is "lame" is why Infinite ticks, and you toss that away to essentially make him a crying lesbian?>His theme actually fits now.his theme always fit alreadyYou should just make an original idea rather than trying to force all these square pegs in round holes
Why didn't we listen?
>>557083996What the fuck does the editor need to tell Gigi that Mimic will die for? Her side hustle selling art is not the comic's fucking problem>DuoWhat the fuck are you talking about? You need yellow boxes reminding you of the story we all just read within the MAIN book?
>>557084879THIS IS WHY WE DON'T WANT IDW TO BE CANON
>>557084879What's up with the word serious can you people just consume good content for once? it's like saying Sonic is too serious about freedom.
>>557084072>>557084272Silver according to the fandom in 2025:>Always having an angry face and posing seriously>Protagonist of a very serious story>They present him as powerful enough to defeat a robotic empire by himself>Did we already say he is serious?Silver Canon:He only starred in badly written drama in a soulless comic>Humiliated by Mimic all the time>Less-than-average IQ, easy to manipulate and trap>Doesn't even know how to defend himself in a conversation with LanolinCan barely carry 7 furries with his powers, even the wisps are more useful>Was only useful one time, and it was with the 7 emeralds
>>557084978Sticks is very breedable
>>557084493>These days he travels to Sonic’s time via mysterious portals that appear when things in the past go awry.aka Silver is not a character he’s a plot contrivance
Shadow doesn't care about Rouge. He sees her as a tool useful for achieving his goals and that's it.Rouge is constantly manipulating Shadow and exploiting his ptsd to get what she wants.Sega has officially stated they aren't even friends. Shadow will only ever love Maria. Rouge was literally made for Knuckles.Shatougefags hate the canon characters.
>>557084807She can have the Nega
Western comics>Convinced fans that Shadow acts like a blind idiot>convinced fans that Sonic is a le "regular teenage boy who wants a girlfriend">Convinced fans that silver is a weak crybaby >convinced fans that Tails is ever going to have a wife and kids Fuck the comics. Fuck everyone who likes the comics. I can't handle it anymore.
>>557084889>because he's seen worseHe doesn't remember it
>>557085221Boo >Silver is not just a character but a useful onethere fify
>>557084807Amy being from the future is only a movie thing
>>557085221and yet japfags throw a bitch fit if you ever say archie does things better than the games
>>557085306Tails deserves love fuck you
>>557084978Sticks' stinky, smelly, sweaty, humid, unshaved, tropical jungle pussy
>>557084807>how do we get the RWBY audience?
>>557085479Because this is always a slimy talking point meant for archie to look good
>>557085359He doesn't remember the events of 06, not his entire upbringing
>>557085469*a leak thingAmy being from the future is probably the worst thing for her, i don't know why Amytards are not letting that sink in, no ships, no character, no bubbly girl, no after appearances.
>>557084659IDW Silver is dead because Ian and Evan's incorrect ideas of who Silver is have been fixed.>>557084903>these incompetent writer fucks have to take notes from it now and not TSR.TSR's dub was based on Archie which also got every aspect of his personality wrong from day one. IDW is written by the same people as Archie.
>>557085432>Silver can only come around when everyone else fails and looks incompetent ftfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke0e0IyvMXc
>>557082732sorry bestie
>>557085582RWBY is still going?
Tails having a wife and kids is hardly his choice.
>>557085479Because they didn't, doing something different doesn't make it better
>>557085221silverfags have long pointed out that forces silver is one of the worst usages of the character to date. they know he was only carted out to appease fans instead of something substantial and is why they harp on about sonic team and potential
>>557085663He grew up in a good future, he doesn't have a bad future upbringing and then it magically turned good and he doesn't know how
>>557085692Exactly, he's the best, most important one of these fake ass heroes. he's the only one who deserves the hero title.
here's my ship
>>557085306>I ONLY WANT THE HEDGEHOGS TO BE COOL We know you like rodent cock nigga chill out
>>557085479>and yet japfags throw a bitch fit if you ever say archie does things better than the gamesThe worst stories in the games are better than the best stories in Archie. Archie completely raped the personalities of every character.
>>557085868>He grew up in a good futureNo he didn't. This has never been stated anywhere.
>>557085268>Rouge manipulating Shadowto go to a birthday party with her>to get what she wantswhat she wants is Shadow
>>557085674Amyfags doesn't really like Amy, they just want her into roles so she doesn't belong only to spite Silver
>>557085778Ian save this poor child from this sexual predator!
>>557085924Sonic having a wife and kids is even stupider and more ooc than Tails so I don't know why you're mad
>>557085692You could say, When everyone is in despair, a silver lining of hope and light appears?
>>557085868You have to official source me on that statement and not just talk out your ass
>>557085913This wouldn’t be a problem if he never showed up ever again :)
>>557085752The last(?) season is in production-hell but they keep assuring us that it's happening any day now.
>>557084973>It was a comic and she was explaining it to Tangle. How would that not have dialogue?By having her remember it solo. She sees something that reminds her of the event, and she flashes back to it. Simple.>Did you play the game?Nah>Or even watch the cutscenes?Yeah.>"I'm very for show don't tell" but you don't understand the basic parallel of their story?I get the parallels and what they're going for, but it looked too cheap and shitty. Kinda hard to care when the presentation's so poor.>What you think is "lame" is why Infinite ticksYeah and it sucks. Like I said, I'm not the type to like something just because it's canon. That's sheep behavior, bro. Think for yourself.>and you toss that away to essentially make him a crying lesbian?No? Crying lesbians sit around in therapy circles and whine about their feelings. Infinite's actually doing things out of a lust for power, because he was too weak to protect his team AND avenge them. But the power corrupted him absolutely to the point of no return, making him a tragic figure.>his theme always fit alreadyNot really. Especially that one comic showing he didn't care about his team.>You should just make an original idea rather than trying to force all these square pegs in round holesOr I could continue these writing exercises because they're fun and ignore you. Simple.
>>557086015>>557078193Know when to use does, don't and doesn't please
>>557086104Hi, Ian. Shouldn't you be busy finding a real job?
>>557082754>>557083062>Fighting monsters in a wasteland with barely anything to eat is the same as fighting robots at peak healthy conditions You are so fucking stupid I'm glad IDW makes both of you mad
>>557085752The last thing I heard from that show was Homophobic Ruby
I visibly feel sick when I see SHITver or a SHITverfag.
>>557086179>>557085973>silver grew up in a bad future, magically woke up in a good one, never questioned itThat is retarded and not how time works
>>557082732>>557085740>that fucking samefag
>>557086205>The last(?) season is in production-hell but they keep assuring us that it's happening any day nowThe last assurance they had of it was back in like July of last year. Looks like Viz got the sales numbers from the merch and Blurays, saw they weren't good enough, and quietly canceled the whole thing.
>>557086184That would be a problem, other than these incompetent fags dying off on their own, he's the third most popular character :)
>>557086419>Ruby's basedwat>it's realWAT
>>557086509No they’re perfectly fine without him, the writing is just forced to make them worse just to have your shithog show up, and he should die for the betterment of the franchise :)
>>557086357Being mad would mean I would accept how IDW write the characters when Sonic Channel exists
He'll stay forever here, and Blaze would always be more irrelevant than him
>>557086483>The last assurance they had of it was back in like July of last yearAnd said assurance was that it was in the writing and planning stages. In other words, a script is being written. But the show hasn't been greenlit yet, as the writer has to pitch the script to Viz and see if they want to fund it. If they say no, RWBY's dead.
>>557083690>Shadow [...] misreads situations all the timeDo you have any examples? I want to learn more about Shadow
>>557086357>Fighting monsters in a wasteland He was killing demons like it was DOOM everyday and repeatedly killing a kaiju. His whole life was fighting.>with barely anything to eatHe had rations.
>>557086419>homophobicBasedBASEDI scream B A S E D!
>>557085495It's not just a comic thing though.
>>557085847Silver got off easy in Forces compared to most everyone else
>>557086665Nah, they're always worse, they never cared about heroism and they'll die on their own, they need someone who's not just powerful but controls time to make sure the series stays alive :)
>>557086446Sega doesn't care how time works and why would they just throw away Silver's entire background and motivation for his character. Him growing up in a ruined future is why he's so protective over the good future he has now
>>557086816I wish they chose any other color, looks like Tails is fucking his older sister
>>557086765He thought he could save Maria and Gerald right to the bitter end. Sonic is a better judge and would know when it's too late.
wtf I like Rwby nowMove over Sonic!
>>557086816Yeah it’s in everything but the games because the games are SHIT POOP
>>557086846The game sucked dick, the only thing i can remember is Infinite having a melty.
>>557086994errrmmmmmm based??????????
>>557086892Go write your shitty fanfiction somewhere else we don’t tolerate it here
>>557086293>it looked too cheap and shitty. Kinda hard to care when the presentation's so poor.I'm not saying you have to like the presentation but you should be able to understand a story in spite of it. Do you also not read books because there aren't pictures?>muh canon muh sheepI'm not talking about "like because it's canon". If you have an idea that's gonna rape canon it should be a damn good one. This is "make Elise a bird" levels of dumb>InfiniteYour idea is literally that hilarious tweet picrel and you're trying to claim its deep or compelling. It's generic is what it is. Infinite as he exists already is more unique and better for the series because of the reliance on series theme of friendship.>his themeIsn't just about his team. His theme is about being an edgelord, not about what happened to him personally. He is trying to larp as Shadow, to Rookie. That is his theme and the whole point of him.>writing exerc-Your writing exercise is the equivalent of a girl knee push up. If you wanna ignore me go ahead and stop replying
Lovers
Uh-oh! Amybestie had a meltyyyyy
>>557087042Sonic getting another human woman
>>557085847No we haven't. Silver in Forces is the primary reason he win. If he didn't come back in time>the resistance doesn't get formed>Infinite drops the ruby prototype
>>557086693>Blaze relevance
Shadamyfags are Archiefags????
>>557086816>le horny french version
>>557087316No idea what game is this. But it is kinda disappointing Sonic isn't drawn in the same art style .
>>557087402This is kind of obvious when you look at the douchebag teen jock personality that shadamyfags always give Sonic
>>557074071>Sonic and Miku's daughter
>>557087249Melty? MELTY?! Is that ALL you can SAY?! I'll "melt" your FACE! How about THAT?! "Aww, bestie had a melty." STOP IT, SOPT IT, STOPIT!! We've HEARD for MONTHS ON END!! What're you DOING with your LIFE!? I've had it! I've been patient! Is there NOTHING thay can appease you?! Nothing?! NOTHING?! Does it make you feel like a big-dick to inflict trauma?! TRAUMATIZE THIS, A-HOLE!!! Bestie? BEST DIE! WE GET IT!! WE GET IT!! WE GET IT!! WE FRACKIN GET IT!!! Oh, LOOKIT ME!! OH HO HO BESTIE! WAHAHA BESTIE!! BEST HAVE MY FIST IN YOUR FACE!! DO YOU HAVE NO LOVED ONES?? NO 'BESTIES'?! No? THEN DIE! YOU DIE!! DIE ALOOOOOONE!!Huuff... Puff...
>>557086765>Do you have any examples? I want to learn more about ShadowThere's this Joypolis conversation he had with Amy where he's telling her he doesn't understand why they made a statue or cake for him. She tells him it's because they appreciate him and want to show it. He replies that he still doesn't understand. Someone had a screenshot of it.
>>557087206>fanfictionIt's what's happening right now, it's reality, it's canon, and it will continue happening until all SEGAs buildings drop, because it's the correct thing to happen :)
>>557086446Just think of it as him suffering partial memory loss he was outside the timestream.
>>557087341Idk dude, heard some Blazefag say their biggest truthful wish is at least for Blaze to be more popular then Silver.
True Lovers
>>557087558It's Chain Chronicle
>>557085674she'll fuck sonic in a motel room and that's how they'll explain silver
Havent nutted while standing in a long timeTime to try it again
>>557087640>I killed this franchise once, and I’ll do it again!
>>557087906And Silver would be her grandfather and son at the same time!
>>557085740>piles and piles of american horseshit
>>557087326not you sthg full of nerds that try to see value in a trashfire and try to argue it was good. silverfags that are more casual and children that want silver to be more than just a cameo. they want better for him
>>557088040no matter the universe, she will always be his bestie
sonichads I kneel
>>557087949Silver and Sticks would make a good ship, Francise destroyers
>>557088180Amy's BUTT!!!
>>557087612>ywn get beat up by amyy even life
This will happen to Sonic. Eventually an adaptation will get so famous that people will find the idea of a "purist" to be completely ridiculous. Everyone will look at the source material as some weird quirky old thing that nobody liked anyways. Eventually the main canon will bend to be more like the movies since that is the one normies know. Right now you are the pre-2003 Teen Titans fan. You don't think this could happen. You think you're safe. You think there is no way Sega would start changing the canon characters to reflect the more popular adaptation.A storm is coming your way.
>>557088365Yeah the movies will overshadow the games and comics. No duh
>>557088365>Eventually an adaptation will get so famous that people will find the idea of a "purist" to be completely ridiculous.And that adaptation will be made by me!
>>557088145
>>557088365You do realize that the movies are becoming more like SegaSonic right?
in 10 years Sonic games will be written by people who grew up with movienic
>>557088115while every other female character who tries to make a move gets forgotten, outside of diapershitting autistics
>>557088595every 6 to 10 years a new era starts so yeah it will happen
>>557053513It's only natural that the best hedgehog would be (Evil) Sonic.
>>557088658Weird because Archie had a reboot that killed off Archienic and replaced him with gamenic who had no interest in dating Sally. Why do diaperfags just overlook their own canon?
>>557088595Do Japs even watch the movies?
https://files.catbox.moe/1bjva6.mp4
>>557088515Captain Autist!
Have you prayed to the trifecta today anons?
>>557088865https://files.catbox.moe/p4lf24.mp4
>>557088824The Sonic movies are more popular than the games everywhere. There aren't enough japanese fans to take up the mantle
>>557088959Every female is fucking dying anon
>>557088959
>>557088824No.>>557089021This franchise is run by Japanese people.
>>557078542Good taste
>>557089216they're letting an archie fanboy write the games now
>>557088162Sticks tried to warn us all, and we mocked her for it
>>557075597>Sonic: Your lust for power's totally gone to your head. You've hurt too many people and you gotta be stopped. [smirking] So I'll do just that.>Sonic summons the Emeralds>Infinite: [sneering] You WILL tryhttps://youtu.be/Ki_Nn95hj48?si=FEoIUS73i-VQpbXH&t=194>Sonic turns Super and the 2 lunge at each other, creating a huge shockwave of power>It's Super Sonic vs Infinite. A badass Dragon Ball Z type fight.
>>557078542Are you a drawfag by any chance?
Silver claimed all of them
>>557088771In retrospect, Reboot-Archie was like a weird bridge between Preboot-Archie and IDW.>Reboot wasn't even a real reboot, it was more like a continuation with all the legally-questionable parts sanded off disguised as retcons, and only lasted one major arc (Unleashed)>Many of the creative team jumped from Archie to IDW and implemented ideas that would've been used had Sega renewed the Archie license
>>557089279And they have to reel him in and ignore half his decisions.
>>557088959I prayed for it to burn it to the ground
>>557089334...all of these are lesbians.
>>557089216>This franchise is run by Japanese peoplewho have to be poached from other companies and subsidiaries. You'll get a dozen more Kishimotos before you see another Iizuka
>>557089421They don’t have to, they do because they lack creativity and vision
Did 1 million people really watch this?
>>557089421Japanese Frontiers is canon.
Sonic written by KrackSonic written by SparkySonic written by DuofagSonic written by BluebordfagSonic written by EspioyumeSonic written by LC-kunSonic written by ABTSonic written by AWFSonic written by ShadallyScribblesSonic written by RoadsSonic written by HoneyfagSonic written by TailsyumeSonic written by RandomfoxSonic written by SonamyschizoSonic written by ShadougeschizoSonic written by KnucklesfagSonic written by Minafag
>>557089618It’s also boring and shit. They literally want to keep Tails Knuckles and Amy lame cheerleaders
>>557089440>t. momthrower
>>557089771cnc cnccnc cncgnf gnf
>>557089457>...all of these are lesbiansWhisper, Blaze and Lara-Su are straight, why lie? Blaze herself canonically has a crush on Sonic.
>>557089618Both are canon.>but-ywnbj so embrace everythinfaggotry or kys
>>557090114>Blaze herself canonically has a crush on-No one, you can't make shit up to make her feel more important, she'll never will
>>557089334>the straight one is the one that is flat and made by the japanese
>>557089801To be fair it wasprobably written before they knew the DLC (which has a more homogenized script) was going to make them playable.
>>557089090Based Knuxadowchad.
>>557089334Isn't Gold canonically not interested in Silver because he's pathetic
>>557088824No. They don’t play the games either. Why so many people here give a fuck what they think is baffling
>>557089572
I have never seen any evidence that Knuckles Amy and Tails are actually friends and not just a group of people who individually like Sonic.
>>557090259Bro are you retarded or something, SoJ literally said that.
>>557090412So they only matter if they’re playable? You’re just as bad as they are
>Um....I appreciate it I really do anon, but....I'm only into HUMAN men...
>>557090625they are not. they just orbit sonic. even their description are about their relation with sonic and not with each other
>>557090082>Knuckles contemplates committing hot incest with his great grandmother
>>557090259I know right, she's fucking bloated with quirks from every character already, why does she need another one?
>>557090625But we literally see Knuckles and Tails hang out together in Heroes/06 and Amy and Knuckles hang out in IDW and Archie
>>557090625We’re only ever allowed to see them do anything if Sonic is involved. They could easily be good friends offscreen but we’ll never know because fuck you
>>557090730>HAHA GOOD ONE SONIC
>>557090476If you look at the list of partners in Evan's tumblr post, not a single male was posted. The real answer is Evan wanted Gold to be a lezbean but didn't want to trample on any straight pair shippers
>>557090632And it was a joke mister basement dweller, else we would've got something in the actual games
>>557090476One, that's not canon. Evan just said it on her Tumblr.Two, "very not confident and capable" only applies to Archie Silver who was always presented as nervous and incompetent.
>>557090761>Comics Are you serious dude >06They don't even talk to each other >Heroes They share three sentences
>>557090625The freedom fighters were the gang. they are childhood friends who grew up struggling together
>>557089801I'm not really a fan of Windii's translations and I'm annoyed that she singlehandedly revived retranslation mods.Colors Wii and base-game Frontiers are maybe the only games where it's warranted, but unless the game had heavily gameplay modifications across regions, these endeavors are mostly pointless.
Gold x Sonic
>>557090729She's not related to him they're just from the same tribe.
>>557090938It's almost like Satam and Archie are out of character or something
>>557090938Why is Sally always naked in these things? Classic girls wore clothes.
>this team is shit, these two never interactedShows you faggots are very knowledgeable, are you yet to realise Knuckles and Tails barely interact at all?
>>557090649>So they only matter if they’re playable?nta but kinda, lol
What’s up with tenrecs
>>557091108indeed. they were much better
Knuckles x TikalSonic X PenelopeShadow x SaletaKatella x Eggman Nega I love timeline shipping
>>557091102>She's not related to him they're just from the same tribeAs far as we know. She could legit be his mom and kept his egg incubated while in the Master Emerald for thousands of years until Sonic, the "Legendary God", was born.
>>557091161Who are you talking to? No one has talked about teams all thread.
>>557091162See this is why people are switching to the comics and movies
>>557090931>Comics don't count because.....THEY JUST DON'T OKAYSorry my bad I thought you were being serious not just trolling
>>557091332The past anons... i hope they can hear me still...
>>557090791>make a character who fits going with Silver like a glove>make her fem-leaning bi and not like SilverEvan is silly and I will rectify this
>>557091102I know but it still funny when you frame it that way as a ship. I'm actually kinda bummed we don't see much knuxikal ship art anymore
>>557091161If you look at every conversation Knuckles and Tails have ever had it becomes obvious. They aren't friends and Knuckles doesn't even respect Tails very much. 'Tinkering is all he's good at'
>>557091243Sonic should always be an ALLY to the the team, but never be a member. Much to Sally's dismay. Their dynamic would be her trying to get him to join, and Sonic always rejecting her.
Ok since apperantly everyone hates that I say shadamy then I’ll just change itnah suckers I’m keeping it at shadamy
>>557091582>>557091582>>557091582
>>557091198A group of mammals native to Madagascar with a diverse range of species fulfiliing several ecological niches due to convergent evolution.
>>557091459movies>
>>557091374>See this is why people are switching to the comics and moviesNobody's switching to the comics. Be serious.
>>557091435If only
>>557091435there is something comical about these two naked near-identical hedgehogs and this third one who is so over-designed she looks like a fanfic character
>>557091374But anon you can't play as them in the comics and movies
>>557092948sonic fans don't play the games DUH
>>557088365You think they stop '03 Teen Titans because of brand alienation because everything started to look like a substitute anime show than a comic book adaptation?
>>557090547Mi heroe
>>557091808But enough about SSS
>>557090938awful Classic redesignThis is getting fakemon starter/route 9 shitmon evolution tiers of bland.Iykyk.