party hard editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>556725727>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:Patch 1.10.4 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-1-10-4-patch-notes/118146Vermintide 2:Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>AcknowledgedSpace Marine 2Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
They should give the crowbar to zealot
>>557082349Why the f*ck would you want to use that filthy dog t*rd of a "weapon"?
>>557083098to apply stacks of brittleness using the can opener blessing, of course!
>>557083098mate I don't think you understand how hard this blessing goes on a melee buildI would very much like to see how it performs on a martyrdom zealotnot to mention the crowbar fits the murderhobo aesthetic very well
>>557084059>this weapon is c-c-c-crazy!>exclusively when being used with martyrdom or rampagethat's a funny way of saying it's a garbage weapon
>>557084223>weapon is good when you're using a build that synergizes well specifically with that weaponwow... I never thought of it that wayyou may be on to something
True Grit? I'm taking it!
>>557084758>specifically with that weaponname a melee weapon that isn't improved by martyrdom or rampage
>>557084059i agree it's a nice weapon but try the shivs on a rampage build, it's just not fair
>>557084829there ain't any because both give straight damage bonus, so of course everything benefitshowever I tried out rampage crowbar today and found it obscenely stronglike y'know how the shivs lack stagger and horde clear? bonesaw has a clunky moveset? tac axe is mostly good for light attack spam?crowbar literally just does everything well with a rampage build
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>>557084829Crusher, even at max martyrdom stacks it sucks.
can someone explain the psychology behind ritualposting?
>>557090884Autism
>>557084829Power Sword, Power Falchion, Blaze Force Sword, Blaze Force Greatsword, Bully Club, Cleaver, Latrine Shovel, Battle Maul and Slap Shield, Power Maul, Pickaxe, Arbites Shock Maul, Shock Maul and Suppression Shield
ye hi yes hello where new content at?
>>557084059>>557084758The chain axe has headtaker and slaughterer. Is this a fucking joke?
>>557084059>>557092001Every weapon with strength blessings with good uptime is balanced to perform at 100% only with the blessings up anyway
>>557092385That fact is painfully obvious when it comes to the crowbar
What's the scientifically proven fastest way to grind out Dream Team?
>>557093031Have perfect teammates to spam train mission with
>>557093031uprising rolling steel with botsyou may not like it but that's peak performance
>>557093031Late yesterday and today I've had some good teams on Heresy, my Dream Team went from 33 to 40. Very thrilling!
>>557091319Bork Bork here, it snowed so we can't get to the office. Then we have government mandated ease into work month where start at 1hour of time in the office a day and gradually go up to a normal 20hour work week. A moose looked angrily at the dev team so they won't be going outside for a year.
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
Give ogryn 100 base toughness.
>>557096474They are more likely to give them 100 base health
>>557094065What an existence this must be>>557090884Autists are creatures of habit and repetition
>>557090884Funy
What does someone see when they get kicked in a darktide mission?
>>557080746I like ECs. Shame about their degeneracy. They were cool guys.
>>557100153A message saying that they got kicked
>>557101185Kicked some guy at end of mission cause he went down too much is that rude?
>>557101598Nope. It's rude to suck ass and join games that are too difficult expecting to get carried
>>557101598>>557102060just kick them if they're playing that bad instead of waiting for the whole mission
bonesaw rampage was fun but it was surprisingly not as fast as i thought, especially compared to dclawnow which should i try first on scum, tac axe or combat axe?
>>557105009The heavy sword of course
I'm gonna cheat on psyker and you can't stop me
>>557090884asperger
>>557111183you can't cheat on a psyker, they'll know. They can read your mind!
>>557111383Shut up Sefoni other girls want me too
>>557101598The fact you did it at the end is whats bad in my opinion. What, he was dying in the end event so you kicked him for a bot thats also gonna die? Dont know where "the end" is but if you guys were gonna extract, he'd gone through effectively the whole map fighting and dying, but you last minute kicked him over some arbitary 'hmm you dont deserve it ackshually' ego shit? You might need to man up a bit dude.
>>557112810nah I think it's based. total freeloader death
>>557112553https://youtu.be/ry2SMU2HMkY?t=120
>>557090884Serving a higher purpose.
>>557112810The shitter got what he deserved
>>557112810teehee
I'VE BEEN A BAD BOY AND IT'S PLAIN TO SEEWHY ALL THE GOOD GIRLS FALL IN LOVE WITH MEEEEEEEEEE
>>557112810I kicked some hive scum retard awhile back that kept going down. I thought maybe it was just cause he was new and playing the class badly. I even hit him with a green stim when he was low HP, but then noticed he was basically just playing and then would just go AFK in a corner and get swarmed repeatedly. Dunno if he was a bot or what, but he got kicked right after we destroyed the stimm tank at the end where you disable the refractor field then head to extract. Its one thing to go AFK once and come back but it was 4-5 times. In the event you're that busy then just back out. It wasnt even a high difficulty. I dont even know what happens when you get kicked. Does if just send you back to the mourning star or just transfer you to your own instance with 3 bots?
>>557117219Getting kicked sends you back to the Mourningstar.Source: I got kicked seconds after loading in once, likely because a premade of 3 friends wanted to make room for their 4th.
>>557116581I miss those days… 2018 was so fun…
I want chaos-tainted weaponry. They go to 100 but at the expense of other stats and get a 3rd perk, pure rng only.
>>557118539>i want casino backkill yourself
>>557118539Well shucks. I can't believe i'm actually saying this but i think i'm starting to miss the RNG. The casino vibe shift is real, i tell y'all, folks
>>557118539Nah, RNG was cancer
>>557118539are you swdi*sh by chance?
The thing with shopclick casino is that, yeah it was obnoxious and unnecessary, but the game was designed around it (for better or worse) in order to try and brute force replayability. Now that you can just make anything other than curios after rerolling for base stats, item drops at mission completion have become totally devalued and Melk's shop is almost entirely deprecated except for spamming curios. I don't want casino back but I can understand why someone would.
>>557121481Fair point. What would remedy this?
>>557121481Without casino, it still takes hundreds of hours to max everything out on every class. Designing the game to trap players like a literal casino is cancerous shit and the game is well rid of it, the only people who want it back have a gambling problem and need help, not their vice catered to.
>>557122329>>557121481They should make you have to pull for classes gacha style
>>557121481>I need carrots on a stick to keep playingI don't, I just play until it's not fun anymore then move on until my interest is renewed for whatever reason
Oh you need a carrot to keep playing?How about a garrot?*fucking strangles you to death*
>>557125743harder daddy
>>557121481it was the same in vt2
I remember when coop games didn't have all this progression nonsense and you could freely play games with all the content from the start.
>>557128423That's lame, UNC
>all 3 teammates with less than 100 dodgesconsole fags I assume?
>2 retards late join, loudly yapping on voice>one gets cliffed, barely hangs on>pick him up>instantly downed again>try to pick him up>the other nigger shoots a barrel right next to me, cliffing me to an instant death, then goes down not even half a second later>other retard can't solo, so the run ends within a 20 second cascade of tards being tardsThis is the last time I attempt to revive a tard. I'm done.
>team unga>me bungatext
>>557133685nerves were stuck to make you formulate this post
>>557134009
What's the dump stat for plasma gun? Ammo?
>>557135550It's not ammo. It was either charge rate or heat resistance. I forgot which one.
>>557135550>>557135915"it depends"I forgot the EXACT values, I think the giga minmax is some 68-72% for either stat, but mine has 70/70 thermal and charge rate. I don't know if those 1-2% can make for slightly more autism. What I do know is that it can spam 8 leftclick shots before hitting 100%, before accounting for blessings. Can also fire a lot more with Optimized Cooling, if you do use that.If you have severe autism, and are desperately attached to the combo of Rising Heat + Gets Hot, you dump Thermal Resistance to 60% and just ride 100%. You can manually press the special button to cool your gun immediately after firing, which cools you back down to 80%, and gives you 2 shots. Since there are no breakpoints, Thermal Resistance becomes the dump stat here. That's what I use.
>>557138173You needed 76% in the past but they fixed it. Just go 60% in one stat.
>>557138173>>557138307Cheers. Actually just ran into a level 1300 True Survivor running this so I'll probably copy that, but I'll also consider your info
>>557138379I forget whether Blaze Away works on the first shot in plasma because I don't use it much, but if it does, it might help hit some niche breakpoints, and I also forgot which breakpoints that might be useful for.As far as I remember testing, Gets Hot yields higher DPS if you autistically quick-dump down to 80%, since you only get two shots in succession.If you ever just hold down the trigger and just want maximum DPS, I THINK you're better off using Optimized Cooling instead of Rising Heat, but the image you posted is also very good regardless.
>>557138379That was meDon't ever post my shit again or there will be trouble
>>557139828I'm sorry sir
>>557121481Both Melk and Brunt were just as fucking useless when back during the casino era of crafting.You could genuinely spend like 10 million dockets on Brunt, only to get like 1 or 2 weapons that had 380 stat (the highest at the time), only for Hadron to fucking brick both of them.Melk was also just as useless, like he is now. 99% of the weapons were complete dogshit just like they are now.As how the crafting is now, it is much better. Brunt's armory fine for the current crafting system. But if Melk is to have a purpose, he has to be entirely reworked because he is just useless and always has been.
>For me, its AI sailor shanties about WW1 style troops set in the far future while I play Veteran with the Krieg armour and a hellbore lasgun.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5fkJDIxPaM&list=RDI5XnbQYCtaA&index=3
>>557135550Plasma is tricky, ideally you want 70/70 on charge and thermal resist, but that's harder to get than a 60 on any stat.
Does it really even matter how you stat out your plasma gun when it just shits on anything else in the game regardless? You have to do extreme levels of minmaxing and buildcrafting with any other weapon to even hope to reach the effectiveness of any random plasma thrown on any random build.
>>557141554people behind AI 40k song channels deserve the rope
>>557141554Awful, don't post this slop again.
>>557141554AI slop attached to a popular IP to make advert money, not clicking
>>557112810It was the 1st mission of the campaign and we had just killed the captain and was in that 30 second or whatever gap between killing it and the mission end cutscene playing (event version of the map)
>double cadia slop
>>557146908see you in two weeks
>>557146908More like double cacadia!
>>557121481It was an interesting attempt at replicating the "strong/weak/angry machine spirit" lore, and I have a soft spot for that idea, but in practice, in a game, it became frustrating. I can't immediately think of a better way of modelling it though; maybe if you ditched the stats completely and just had a lot of blessings/perks (existing and new)?
>>557147518Talent trees for every weapon so it levels up and has builds like the player. Yes, I want Fatshark to suffer having to balance a couple dozen separate trees, what of it?
Prepare to see nothing but Cadians for the next week I will be one of them
>>557147927???Cacadians????
>>557146908Lemme see them, can't check it myself for a little while and I have an interest in the psyker cosmetics especially(I also assume we're still not getting DLC class cosmetics)
>>557148707Nah bro. We totally just got hive scum and arbites cadian cosmetics
The slop rotated, and yes the new cadian helmet that is just one of the commissary helmets is there too.
>>557148673I dare you to get the outfit and name your vet to CACAdian
>>557148707>>557148776It 100% just confirms that GW did 100% again cuck fatshark out of cosmetics.Explains why they are so quick to make yet another new class, they can't make extra money off of cosmetics so they gotta make another DLC class to make profit.
>>557149064GW's legal team is actually insane and getting in the way at this point.
What's so special about cadian veterans? Special eye colour?
for the first time in years i managed to successfully votekick someone. Some cyrillic-name person speedrunning through the map. Felt good watching him be replaced with a bot.
>>557149776They just have an inflated ego in order to cope with the planet breaking incident. That's all.
>>557149776one of their special traits was meant to be that they all don't care if they die because they've got nowhere to go back to, but the cadians haven't been depleted and they are, in fact, recruiting, so uhhhh
>>557149776In-game? Just the eye color.
>>557149776>in-universePrestigious homeworld known for being a cornerstone of the imperium's defense and producing expertly trained guardsmenThen it exploded and the legacy lives on in the soldiers that are still around, and the traditions they've passed on. Not entirely sure how they've done that but eh.>out of universeThey're the guardsman equivalent of ultramarines, they're the standard colour scheme on base militarum models and it's good business for GW to promote them as cool and tough to sell more.
>>557149123It's not even the legal team, GW itself is just fucking autistic to a retarded degree.
>>557150291>Not entirely sure how they've done thatCadian regiments got deployed elsewhere all the time even before Cadia was destroyed, and conscripted troop replacements locally as needed, those conscripts and now general reinforcement get the Cadian traditions impressed on them as with any of the themed guard regiments, but the whole pink eye thing is going by the wayside now that the number of true Cadians is diminishing. You'd think it'd be skyrocketing because of the galactic axe wound, though.
>>557150291>>557150745In-universe the Cadians have also gotten a new homeworld as a new recruiting homeworld.Which makes sense since Cadia was a prestigious guard homeworld and the regiments it produces are vital.
>>557151104What is the creed the veteran is always screaming about when he uses the shout?
>>557151527A tactical genius
>look at Acknowledged co-op list>no Warframe
>>557151897Oh boy, sure can't wait to talk about>hag worship>degenerate frames>more hag worship>the raped>more degenerate frames>laughing at people who don't play [X] frame>abandoned content>wide as an ocean, as deep as a puddle>useless mods and rivens>stupid fucking potatoes>stupid fucking potatoes with cosmetics>hag worshipNo thanks bud.
>>557151897Already has its own general no?
>>557151897maybe if it had stayed a weird, faceless biomachine ninja speedrunning simulatorunfortunately they acquired money, and then used that money to become something abhorrent and unrecognizable
>>557151897I don't want to see pics of busted old dykes or niggerish asses
>>557134206Post more like this please I really like it and it’s funny :)
>>557152087You described the average reddit level basedjak like yourself. If you don't like the game it's fine just don't be a crybaby faggot
>>557152623If that's what you think, bud, you are free to think that.
>>557152356As if you could see different stuff in other threads
>>557152623>I...I didn't want to post here anyway!
Wait what are the correct blessings to have on a veteran bolter? I just realized at some point I somehow swapped mine out for the same blessings I use on the zealot bolter and I have no idea when or how I made that mistake
>>557153026the power on stagger and puncture
>>557153092I was assuming you always want power on stagger but I wasn't certain about puncture vs. surgical since it fits with a deadshot build
>>557153026depends how you use it
>>557153263The only way to use bolter on veteran is with deadshot; please do not magdump crushers in my lobbies
>>557153240which keystone? Maybe shattering impact is better than bleed which could take your marksman focus stack away. It's down to personnal preference>>557153595I still have my doubts for deadshot when it's not for a laser weapon
>>557153240You always want Pinning Fire, but Puncture can be swapped out for Surgical or Shattering Impact at will, Puncture is the better pick for personal damage, then Surgical, then Shattering depending on what everyone else is running.
>>557152623Are you seriously crashing out because he doesn't have the same taste in video games as you?
>>557153636Bolter and bolt pistol criticals can do a ton of damage, so Deadshot with Surgical is good on them.
>>557153752are you able to noncrit oneshot cruchers?
>>557153636>which keystone?Focus Target for me even on bolter. I have tried Marksman's Focus but I generally just hate abilities like that which are constantly ticking down and you have to refresh, it just makes me anxious. And when I play coop games I have tagging OCD anyways so I am always making use of Focus Target
>>557153790No, and if you're trying to you're gonna get a big fat DECLINED, you should be throwing kraks at them.
>>557153863current marksman is good because melee weakspot hit refresh the duration. Tagging is too much micromanagement for me
>>557153863I wouldn't take Marksman's Focus on a bolter in any case, since the bolter's ammo pool just doesn't work well with it, it's more of a las keystone in my opinion, while you'll always be able to use Focus Target.
ffs give me larpzpyre skin or I will defecate on sweden
>>557154125Weren't these in the store only like a year ago? I would imagine it will be a while before they rotate through again. Earliest I would expect to see these again would be for Skulls 2026 in the summer.
>>557153026If you want to mag dump it you use cavalcade + puncture. Or put on puncture + shattering impact since brittleness amps up bleed damage.Obviously put on carapace + unyielding as damage perks.If you want to use it for sniping you use surgical and pinning fire. Or use surgival and puncture.Then put on flak + maniac as damage perks.
>>557154080>more of a las keystone in my opinionI'm not a Marksman's Focus expert, but wouldn't the fact that you are getting a lot of your kills with burn stacks on a recon lasgun build make this anti-synergy? If bleed kills don't refresh your stacks then burn kills wouldn't either I would assume
>>557147293That’s Moushley not Rashley get it right
>>557154443marksman can be gained on zombie kills too, the recon can pierce a bit
>>557154490It's a rat
>>557154125I want the duster
>>557144830>>557141554There’s one actual good channel but yeah most of them are kind of lackluster sadly
>>557154443>burn stacks on a recon lasAh, I don't run Marksman's Focus with that, I usually just go with the las pistol since the ammo pool is massive, Survivalist feeds it and Shock Trooper with Deadshot, Reciprocity, Desperado and Concentrated Fire give you basically infinite ammo. You'll essentially have max stacks of Marksman's Focus doing that and it can fire about as fast as a recon las with better accuracy on top.
>>557154219I shall wait
>>557147518>It was an interesting attempt at replicating the "strong/weak/angry machine spirit" loreThat’s actually a good point. I never thought of it that way. I’m sure there’s better ways to work that concept in though, they just need to think about it a little harder. >>557141179This makes sense too.
>>557154582Filthy controller user
>>557149776They got the best and highest quality training the Imperium had to offer on average due to being such a key world for the defense of the rest of the galaxy, but their highest quality troops in the Kasrkin are just about the most formidable infantry the Imperium can field outside of Space Marines and Assassinorum agents. Very big deals. Most of Cadia’s population was off planet at the time of its destruction, so there’s motivation to have them teach what they already know.
>>557154724you take reciprocity? What do you sacrifice to reach this path?
Is it controversial to not use deadshot on the recon las? I have never liked how you just instantly dump all your stamina due to its fire rate and I would rather remain mobile and sliding around with Skirmisher. Sure you might have to actually pick up an ammo pack once or twice per mission but I don't mind
>>557155013I sacrifice Trench Drill Fighter since I'll be spending most of my time clicking on heads anyway. The ability doesn't really matter too much and can be swapped out for Executioner's Stance or Infiltrate depending on my needs, but I usually stick with yelling about cadia and pissing toughness.
>>557155226oof so you sacrifice bring it down. Also you don't use executionner stance?
>>557155093Controversial? Brother, i will literally kill you
>>557155292I need to be dead certain there's a tank on the team before I take Executioner's Stance. If there's a Tauntgryn, I take Executioner and time my ability with theirs, if there's an Arbitrator, I go with Infiltrate for threat reduction. Sacrificing Bring It Down isn't much of a sacrifice by the way, since krak replenishment covers Crushers, Bulwarks and Monstrosities, and you can headclick Reapers with the las. On the other hand, sometimes I'll ditch Reciprocity and Melee Damage Boost and put those points on Covering Fire and Competitive Urge instead, always nice to watch someone's toughness bar shoot straight to full by shooting any old thing around them.
>>557155093Deadshot has always been a dead node.
What are the big dick damage combos with deimos? Intuitively it doesn't feel as good to use as obscurus or even knife.
>>557157108Needs more jpg
>>557157172Post the uncompressed png version and I will replace the image.
>>557157296This isn't the original res, since the original is just slightly too big to upload here without lowering myself to buying a 4chan pass.
>>557090884Remember...don't eat muties!
>>557157612Actually, forget this one, found a better one by just grabbing the actual page off the internet archive.https://archive.org/details/PrideOfBaghdad/mode/2up
If I only have the points for Demolition Stockpile is it still worth to take Kraks for bossing/anti-crusher shenanigans or should I just go frags/smokes instead? I only play Auric so the question doesn't actually matter but I still want to know
So, what could they be doing here?
>>557158498Anarchist Hive Scum used his friends in high places/connections to have part of the crew dig a hole in the walls to prove that this space and spaceship stuff is all tricks
>>557157108For single target rape without exploits, its l1 h2 (both are stabs) then reset your combo by either blocking or swapping weapons and repeat. If you want to exploit like a crazy nigger, set up a macro, or set your mouse wheel to swap weapons and spam the l1 because it has no wind up frames before the attack lands and can immediately be interrupted by weapon swapping. Even the non exploit combo is pretty unintuitive and without something like skritarious, is reserved for the biggest poopsock tryhard gamers around. The special attack does not exist for any reason other than captain shields.
>>557158498>hangarwhy would they need to make a hole there to get to the hangar, we clearly go there from the mission terminal alreadychaos wastes equivalent?the most disappointing thing I can think of is that this takes you to a Tertium player hub, in case you wanted a change of scenery
>>557159054>more completely fucking pointless inconvenient hub shit to shove premium cosmetics in your faceI shan't use it. I will sit in my psych ward and be happy. I pity the consolefag for having to enter the Mourningstar.
>>557159221I'd advise taking hub hotkey mod instead
>anno domini 2026 februarius 12>still no cosmetics for cummers of copla fucking mao and ZERO communication about it, zilch, nada, nichts
>>557159345Mourningstar is an unnecessary loading screen, and another instance of waiting for fagshart's retarded servers that have a longer response time than my computer takes to load the assets.Psych ward doesn't load shit. Not before the mission, not after the mission, nothing. Worst case, the server drops me into a reconnect bug, but restarting is UNIRONICALLY LITERALLY FASTER than loading into the hub because of server response time.
>>557159506Actually adding onto that, I completely forgot the fucking vanilla experience is>click launch in steam>wait for steam to respond>get some completely pointless fucking launcher>click play on the launcher>wait for game to load>have to press button to log in>press button, wait for the server to respond>have to select character and enter the mourningstar>load mourningstar>manually walk to the thing you need to use, which may be on the opposite side of the shipMeanwhile I'm bypassing the launcher, using a mod to automatically press login for me, and psych ward to avoid having to ever enter the mourningstar.Considering how many play sessions I've had, I have saved literally several hours I would've otherwise spent waiting for completely pointless button presses and load screens.
>>557153595>The only way to use bolter on veteran is with deadshotabsolute nonsense. and we don't live in a world where deadshot vs crusherdumps are the only two way to use the weapon
>>557159984You are obviously free to use the bolter in a way that is grossly suboptimal and arguably bad. Unfortunately this general has had a couple of extremely vocal Deadshot haters, presumably because they're irredeemably retarded and eternally turbo dogshit at the game, so I'll just inb4 the inevitable meltie.
>>557158498Yet another gamemode most likely.People keep saying that it is darktide's chaos wastes gamemode, but knowing how fatshark has done everything in darktide, it'll most likely be an absolute mess.
>>557155093not controversial at all. You're fine.
>>557160117Deadshot is bad, no amount of coping is going to change that.
>>557160367am trying to use it for my las weapon but christ does it feel bad even with one death per second. And the moment you need the stam because a poxburster decided to use you a gateway to virgin nurglites harem you're out of energy to push him away
>>557160117post bolter deadshot build pls. I want to try it and see for myself
>>557160473Deadshot is not important for the recon las unless you're going for burn
Sad how the new bolter mark sounds like pure sex but seems more aoe orientated
>>557160971the aoe isn't even that impressive in terms of damage
>haven't even got all the havoc penances>game mode that will kill havoc forever already being teasedit'll be hard suppressing my completionist instinct, but I'll get over it>paywalled classes have penances mean fatshark will never be able to make the havoc penance points required for penance reward tiers>no havoc cosmetics ever added for either DLC classrip in piss, havoc, you will not be missed
>>557151527Ursarkar E. Creed, famous Cadian commander. Tactical genius. Had a memetic ability to hide skyscraper-sized walkers behind lamp posts. Ragebaited many enemies of Imperium."Died" when the planet fell apart under him. His daughter does the shit he did now.
>force sword skin for 700 premium currency>it's literally just the illisi base skin with a worse handle but less cringe pommel>kind of want it anyway because the deimos' base skin looks really fugly while illisi looks great
>>557160519Left side is how you do it.Center or right depending on which you prefer.The swap & reload nodes near the top are technically optional, but make the bolter a lot more fun.The leftmost build has a lot of loose points and can afford to invest into melee if you really feel like you need it, but you can obviously do other things with those points as well.You will need a single +3 stamina curio, I recommend a single +12% stamina regen. You can use more stamina, but shouldn't need more between Target Down! feeding you, and simply sprinting less.IIb bolter with unyielding, carapace, Surgical and Shattering Impact neatly hits a couple of really nice crit breakpoints. The brittleness is good for dispatching crushers and monsters in case you need to. I've had more success with this than with Pinning Fire, but that is also good. Default to dumping mobility, but if you have the cash, you can make one that never takes Pinning Fire and dump collateral on that.III (the explodey one) takes unyielding and flak, Surgical and Pinning Fire is mandatory on it since it instantaneously gets max stacks in a single shot. I've warmed up to the III quite a bit, I find it more fun and comfy than the IIb, but it does run into some pretty nasty ammo issues. It does throw bursters around though, so it's much nicer with pubshitters that don't let you melee them.Your melee needs to be horde clear that ideally can still deal with armor, so it's just power sword. Put the usual on it. I've had great success with mob dump Rampage in aurics, but since Sunder gives infinite cleave, you can take that and dump cleave, although I don't think that's necessary outside of havoc, and I'm not 100% sure how good Sunder REALLY is.
>>557158243>>557158170>>557157612>>557157296>>557157108kekkin’
>>557159506>>557159221The Morningstar is kino aldoebeit
>>557161870Literally never heard of this guy and I’ve been learning the lore for years at this point. Man this universe is so crazy huge.
>>557162209>simply sprinting less.Not a bad bit of advice for vet in general, regardless of build, to be honest. I've been bitten a few too many times with not having enough grenades when I need them because I'm too impatient to just jog (sprinting stops grenade regen, or at least it seems like it to me. Maybe there's something else I've not noticed instead)
>>557163174>sprinting stops grenade regenNo.It does not, in fact, stop grenade regen.
>>557163174>>557163314The only way in which sprinting can stop grenade regen is by sprinting out of coherency and missing out on your teammates' contribution to demo team procs.
>>557162689>the iron hands got one or two named characters at most
Dead Shot?More like Dead Shit!
AAAAAAAAAH IM PIGGING OUT OINK OINK SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE OINK OINK SQUEEEEEEEEEEE MORE CADIA AND KRIEG PLS OINK OINK
Dead shot should only deplete your stamina when you miss the head clicks. There, I fixed it.
>>557171474Too complex for fatshark to do, sorry.
>>557171474remove the stam drain when not shooting
>>557171793>>557171474Both decent improvements.
>>557152356>>557152317>>557152087Uhhh what? Qrd?
>If I get the minimum of everything I want, I need to buy 11000 aquila's.>Which works out to $90 AUD>Remember I make that in just under 43 mins since I am FIFO in the WA Gold Mines.>Was literally going to spend it on grog anyway.Easiest decision of my life.
>>557175702damn you're so cool
>>557175829>damn you're so coolWell I am Cadian after all.
>>557176232Why did you let Cadia fall?
>>557175702>I am FIFO in the WA Gold Mines.Heavy machinery or boots on the ground?
>>557176760Machine Tech
>>557162209You prioritize focus regen over max stacks?
never understood this indian mindset of thinking you have value if you waste your dosh on predatory online shops
>>557176232The helmet and body armor is cool but I despise the pants.I want the devs to stop this stupid half-armored shit. It looks stupid as fuck.It's why I hate the veteran great coat that you can get from the penances, only for it to have 1 shoulder pad 1 glove, and no soulder pad or glove on the left arm.
>>557178374The build doesn't function without some source of stamina regen because it uses Deadshot.Can easily pull a point from the top to get more piss stacks. I've stopped playing vet in havoc, and they're totally unnecessary in auric. I'd probably move 1-2 points around for havoc, and max focus target would be one reason.
>>557178580It's all part of the aura farming mindset that they have
>>557178580What if they buy the cosmetics because they like how they look and want to support the studio?
>>557178919don't be ridiculous
>>557175702I feel like generally Fatshark avoids nerfs. The main exception being Ogryn for some reason.
>>557179273Latent trauma from developing the game to fit orgyn in.
>>557178639The idea is that you shoot side on, thereby reducing how much of your body is facing the enemy, therefore no need to armour up the second leg. Reduce weight etc. How true this is and how much is that it might be true and is a cost cutting measure? Prob both.A lot of Warhammer is ripped from history and a lot of the armour style harkens back to mercenary companies running around the HRE and Italy that did have non uniform armour for style and practicality AND expense.
>>557179273There was a time, shortly after their rework, where Ogryns were stupidly OP and simple no matter what you did. The usual crowd bitched and moaned and in typical Fatshark fashion, they gutted the Ogryn back to where he was pre rework where all he really did was charge in and spam melee and hope his team could deal with everything else.
>>557180371>A lot of Warhammer is ripped from history and a lot of the armour style harkens back to mercenary companies running around the HRE and Italy that did have non uniform armour for style and practicality AND expense.That’s one of the best things about it. Instead of generic overdesigned fantasy armor they just went with early modern period stuff which fantasy as a whole tends to ignore. It’s such a simple aesthetic choice but it makes it feel so unique.
>>557180371That's probably the intention. A common mistake / misunderstanding by very silly artists. Soldiers actually fight squared off towards the enemy. Only biathlon athletes shoot sideways. It probably made more sense in the high medieval times in melee combat formation, where soldiers has one foot forward and one foot back. But for gun fights it's just silly. It throws you off balance, makes it harder to run, and leaves one leg exposed to shrapnel and bullets. DECLINED.
>>557181265Isn't the point of wh40k that it's the future in space but with medieval themes like ruling classes and swords?
>>557180371>A lot of Warhammer is ripped from history and a lot of the armour style harkens back to mercenary companies running around the HRE and ItalyMy birthplace in my passport is literally Altdorf, these fuckers just look over villages in this region and pick the names for WHF cities at random
>>557181265Not silly or a mistake.pic related is where Warhammer gets most of its aesthetics. Turn that image into a soldier equipped with 'modern' armour and the Cadian armour is what you get.If it is not directly referencing a specific time or unit like Kriegers or Mordian Iron Guard and so on then it is absolutely going to follow rule of cool and Landsknecht styling. If you want uniform and 'modern' appropriate armoured infantry then Star Wars has what you need - its also bland as fuck.
>>557182462Forgot image.
>>557182064Yeah, and?You know WHFB's the Empire of Man is literally just the HRE. Were they supposed to use names from Vietnam?
>>557182462>>557182647I think it makes a little bit of sense to consider why things are this way also. Landsknechts, the Reisläufer that inspired them and other mercenaries usually dressed like this because they got paid double for frontlining, so they had substantial amounts of money to piss away and no time for plastic figurine collection hobbies nor could they buy cosmetic sets in darktide with their vast income. So they bought the fanciest clothes and armor they could to keep their wealth on their person. I don't know a ton about 40k, is that somehow incorporated into it there too? It's fine to have the aesthetic but the aesthetic had its reason too is all I'm saying
>>557182852relax I wasn't attacking your favorite company
>>557180371>A lot of Warhammer is ripped from historyAnd then they try to file copyright on it all, funny as fuck
>>557183062Rule of cool.Unless the aesthetic is to look like bums on purpose, ala pressganged villagers with a sharp stick, then the idea is the models look as distinct, eye catching and interesting as possible. Lore and art comes second.
>>557183201I despise GW and would gladly buy the company outright if I could, then after intensive reviews and background checks on every employee do a massive fucking purge and lore reset to 2012 and just wave it away as a tzeentchian plot.
>>557183430I like when fantasy authors are so incredibly autistic they come up with reasons to explain the coolness too
>>557183637>Anon, do you like British Army aesthetics circa 1860 and pith helmets?Praetorian Guard is just for you. The reason being for their look is lost to time.>Anon, do you like WW1 Trench Infantry warfare aesthetics?Death Korp of Krieg is right there, gas masks and all. Why? errr they rebelled and the planet turned into the Eastern front of WW1.>Anon, do you like Mongolian aesthetics but not space marines?Attilan rough riders are for you. Why are they like that? Umm some Mongol enthusiasts settled there thousands of years ago and were REALLY into Gheghis Khan larp.Lore comes second to selling models that appeal to (you). Almost every single time BL authors have tried to write origins and backstories they shit the bed and make the models and faction look retarded and less interesting by association.You cannot have your cake and eat it. Tolkien wrote autistic lore and the LotR TT is on permanent life support.
>>557184518I think there's middle grounds. Like obviously sisters of battles were conceptualized because>look we got warrior monks>but what if we had warrior nuns too? that would be coolSo they then came up with an in-lore explanation for it to explain it, the whole thing about that faction not holding an army of fighting men or however it was phrased. There's definitely room for both, just a matter of how autistically the setting wants to explain everything. I don't think it's a secret that a lot of this setting is just done for the sake of selling someone their favorite style on a mini so it's second priority
Here's my ideal Darktide overhaul patch>Remove talent trees (hear me out) >each branch of the talent tree is now it's own career, much like the VT2 system, so you now get to pick between Zealot Preacher and Zealot Assassin>each career gets a couple of career specific weapons or weapon marks to accompany this, a Zealot Preacher could for example get a big ol flaming eviscerator>you get "flex" points, like a Zealot Preacher can still choose to invest those points into acquiring specific Assassin talents like stealth, throwing knife, keystone or aura, for example, while keeping his Preacher talents, this is to preserve hybrid builds and not actually remove the one cool thing talent trees allow for While this might seem a little pointless at first these thoughts are why I think it would be good>You can now achieve career specific balance. Gunlugger for example can now actually have good ranged ammo econ instead of being forced to not have a single good talent because they can give him inherent passives that are ONLY available for gunlugger and not the melee classes>This introduces the concept of introducing unique career-specific new weps that would break the game on other careers but enhance a specific career greatly>This opens the path to adding new careers to an existing class. They could add a Crusader class to Zealot for example>most talents are pointless copypasted filler bloat anyway (is there a single class that DOESN'T have "15% damage after successful dodge"?) so might aswell cut it down to the essentialsThe biggest issue with this is that some classes don't have have 3 careers worth of shit in their trees right now. Arbites is kind of just Arbites, the 3 branches don't actually represent a sub career that I can discern
>>557186131Yes, I've thought of something like this as well. I get the impression they're worse at balancing dt than vt2, so their goal should be to make it more like vt2. All the extra bells and whistles in talent trees only give people the illusion that they can make more choices anyway.
A flex point or two would be pretty cool right now. Balance it by not allowing regular skill points to branch off it directly.
>>557186131You could achieve the same effect by just putting in more lockout nodes
>>557187585True, which class even has those other than arbites right now
>>557187645Zealot has those sub keystones, other classes need more of that to enforce build identity.
>>557186131>>Remove talent treesStopped reading there.
>>557186131at some point they planned this because the class named used to be >veteran sharpshooter>zealot preacher>ogryn bonebreaker>psyker iforgot
For the people who care, the Darktide Card Game can be bought nowI'm not sure why this even exists.
>>557188219Card games are cool, Horus and the Emperor had one
>>557186131>>This introduces the concept of introducing unique career-specific new weps that would break the game on other careersYou haven't said it and I can already tell this is specifically about rumbler.Entire post is pointless and a waste of time and the devs never will and never should implement your ideas.Just apply a hidden -50% BLO trigger as a downside on it. Wouldn't be weird or hard to add since many weapons in this game have negative crit chance values, like ogryn bully clubs or braced autoguns.There I have fixed rumbler spam.
>>557188725>You haven't said it and I can already tell this is specifically about rumbler.You read a line about introducing new weapons and you thought about the rumbler?
>>557188885>"would break the game on other careers"Read nigga
Good thing darktide has mods so the devs can focus on adding content instead of making the game better :3
>>557189072It helps to read the full sentence>This introduces the concept of introducing unique career-specific new weps that would break the game on other careers>introducing>new>weps
>>557189189This isn't a gotcha, you don't need to act coy.
>>557190779Don't know what to tell you, I was specifically thinking of the huntsman bow when I wrote it, and the slayer twin axesI don't care much about rumbler spam other than it's visually disruptive, it at least forces ogryn to pick up a keystone they get otherwise no benefit from
>>557188332… They did? When?
>>557192874The End and the Death, Big E was gonna get him so Horus pulled out a tarot deck and played a card game with him. Not shitposting either, it's exactly the way it sounds.
>>557184815>There's definitely room for both, just a matter of how autistically the setting wants to explain everything. I don't think it's a secret that a lot of this setting is just done for the sake of selling someone their favorite style on a mini so it's second priorityAt the same time though, I kind of like the storytelling method of GW where they leave bread crumbs and hints of stories that aren’t fully explained and come back to them later. A lot of them will probably be unexplained forever but the ones that are are very interesting.
How do I make Zealot not boring to play? Preferably auric/damnation level build.
>>557195429You have to tell us what excites you first
>>557195546I like how Arbitrator plays and I think Desperado Hive Scum is fun (but probably because it's so good.)
>>557195771I'm gonna guess you like stagger and magdumping while zipping around like you're on crack. So with that in mind, make a build around the Braced Autogun or Shredder Autopistol maybe, and take a Shock Maul or Crusher so you can knock things around in melee. The Zealot's base movement speed is high enough that it should still feel good to move around with those weapons despite their mobility issues, but you can optionally take the movement speed nodes to make the pace a little faster if you want it to feel a bit more Quake-y like the Hive Scum. Fury of the Faithful for your ability and Inexorable Judgement for your keystone to reward mobility.
>>557195429Martyrdom is at least a novelty in changing up the usual curios to full wounds.Fury of the Faithful and an Eviscerator mkIII for high speed light attack spamming and classic zealot feel.
>>557195429Fotf with martyrdom while using mk3 eviscerator.
>>557195429Which zealot things have you tried that you're declaring as boring to play?
>>557196616I like this Break the Line build I am running where you generate massive impact and damage reduction from staggering enemies and you spend it using Break the Line for burst damage then immediately rebuild it, and you can drop BTL every 12ish seconds so you're just constantly bullying enemies around but are also untouchable.But I also liked this other build I was using because the Arbites Shock Maul felt really impactful, like it his very hard on top of knocking enemies around.Honestly I think I really enjoy builds utilizing weapons with really nasty heavy attack combos that make me feel in control or a bully.However in a similar vein I REALLY like the Power Sword for Veteran. I use it with a plasma gun and I often neglect to use the plasma gun because I am just having so much fun mulching enemies with that nasty thing. >>557197567I did the relic blade/flamer/book that is very popular and it's okay but it feels a bit bland, like there's no really exciting moments with it. I also did a martyrdom thing with eviscerator/chainaxe and while it was a bit more interesting, it was frustrating because I'd find myself not really getting to use the cool special attacks because my team will always blow away the enemy while I am executing it. I did shroudfield with a combat blade and I can't really remember how I felt since I did it for a penance. I did play shade Kerillian in VT2 and liked it but I don't remember it clicking the same way. And I did a thunder hammer one shot build just to get the mastery and god the thunder hammer is SO FUCKING SHIT it's unreal.
>>557198029Alright, it sounds like you should try the shroud field version of the fat man health tank build.
>>557198364The what
>>557198487https://youtu.be/82EpvAqXth0
>>557198681What's the appeal of all that hp?
>>557199452According to the video maker in the comments.You take the Health Curios because we are taking every Damage Resistance node in the tree. The Zealot DR nodes all apply to health damage as well (Shield of Contempt, Good Balance, Bleed for the Emperor, Hubris, Invigorating Revelation). All of that combined with Restoring Faith, which heals 20% of the Health damage you take, you get a lot more mileage out of Health Curios than you would otherwise.I was personally running relic blade, bolter, shroudfield for the penance on Auric and I found that to be my favorite zealot loadout. I've never played around with this particular build though.
>>557201019I'll whip it up now and give it a try, I did not know about the block cancel sprint stab.
>>557201019I just can't seem to reliably execute the blockcancel sprint attack.
>>557203379Most people don't they just use that gay macro mod to do it for them
>>557204525Yeah I don't like cheating. I think my problem is I am hitting sprint too early.
>>557175681The community managers, one of whom is now directing the game, are women who were in their 20s when the game launched and garnered a simp army despite always having little appeal other than being white women and the fact that they're pushing 40 now. The game is a boring grindfest now so discussion of the game typically falls by the wayside in favor of hag worship
>>557198364>>557201019IDK about this build. I feel way squishier with it than I ordinarily do, I'll try it more and maybe tweak it against gunners but I'm struggling to make it work.
Why is sony making so many slop coop games
>>557208894Because they want to throw enough shit at the wall for something to stick and they can collect that sweet low-effort microtransactions revenue. They bought bungie to try and make sure that went smoothly.
>>557206152I thought it was weird how people revere this ugly bitch thats a CM for darktide like it has any relevance whatsoever, this explains it
>>557197504correct
>martyrdomHive scum and melee psykers exist
>>557209432>>557208894What are you referring to
>>557213183there's a sony advertising show going on and I'm guessing these people actually watch corporate ads
>>557211052Nobody even tried to argue against this. I'm glad we all can agree on this
>>557217827Wait until one of the thread shitters wake up
>>557217827Nobody cares to argue with b8.
NO ONE CARED WHO I WAS UNTIL I PUT ON THE MASK
>>557218489How is that bait?
Is a Zealot with a heavy sword Auric viable?By Auric viable I mean it can run Auric pretty comfortably if played well, nonviable would be like I am totally being carried or fighting a constant uphill battle trying to keep up.
>>557219236Martyr zealot also brings piss toughness and stun-everything button with invulnerability for fuckups.
>>557219282Yeah so long as you run an armor pen ranged with it
>>557219502So do crit zealots except they don't suck dick
>>557219736and?
>>557219803And you're a dumbass if you need me to explain it further
>>557219282I'd only use it with fotf with both subnodes and a hand cannon revolver.
>>557219984So you're not allowed to play martyr zealot because you could instead play a different class and burn your ability to mimic martyr's default state without ability?
>>557219556>>557220114What keystone would you use? What's your favorite color?
why does arbitrator get like no cosmetics but all the other classes get morbillion things
>>557220196Who said anything about being allowed? Sure i would never accept you into my havocs and we would probably kick you from our aurics, but you're still "allowed" to play a shitty martyr zealot
>>557222749who is "we" and why would you kick someone from auric for having one of the most ubiquitous zealot builds?
>>557222710Hive Scum gets nothing either
>>557222710apparently because GW doesn't want Arbites cosmetics to differ too much with the uniforms they already have in canon stuffbut even Hive Scum gets no cosmetics and their cosmetics could be near limitless considering they're just a bucnh of hive criminals wearing what the fuck ever. Fat Shark just doesnt want to make cosmetics for the DLC classes for some reason
>>557222749>shitty martyr zealotAnon martyrdom is fine and even somewhat optimal in aurics as long as you can dodge pubtards blowing up bursters in your face, which is the only problem with the keystone and the reason I don't use it because I hate playing like a pussy just because some scum's left mouse button is stuckIt's only havoc where it requires a better player than usual, but even there it's fine, even if the builds that use it are somewhat niche.
The instant I see someone dare to enter my lobby with more than 2 wounds it's decline, block, and report on sight. Yes that includes all ogryns.
>>557223510i have no idea what that means
I can finally play as himJohn Cadia
>>557223169We don't like to reward anti-social behavior by allowing players to bring their carry-me-please builds
>>557224045>gets carried
>>557223973It's not even a proper kasrkin outfit
>>557224176It is. You don't have to have the helmets with the lights attached to them and you can opt to paint them IG green instead of Cadian camo. Just missing the hellgun and the hellgun backpacks really but a plasma gun or bolt pistol is a suitable substitute.
>>557223442I could fully accept your premise and it would still just make martyr zealots shitty scum or melee psykers>>557224127You must have mistaken me for a martyr zealot
>>557158475kraks are always nice to havesmokes are useful but are overshadowed by a proper psyker domefrags are kinda "meh" to me since they're 4 making space but kraks can do that too, AND deal with crushers
>>557224176
>>557225226>rapid-fire scab plasma gunnerConceptualize.
>>557225557At least he'll be easier to kill... until you see a group of 30 of them and pray you have a nuclear option ready because even a bubble will probably last 3 seconds.
>>557225557Strap me to a cyclonic torpedo and fire me at Atoma, I am ready.
I don't want darktide chaos wastes
>>557225873You will play darktide chaos wastes and you will be happy
>>557221161critgreen (like a pine tree)
>>557223973I absolutely adore the fact that it not only took them almost three years to add a simple visor to an existing helmet, they also did it in the most half assed way. Not only there's no bezel around the glass they didn't even bother to substitute it with some painted on gunk in the edges. It's just a flat texture. How about some nuln oil in there please?And the cherry on top is eyelashes poking through the visor. Fucking hell.
>>557226382The neck is still exposed too, the hands aren't armored like they are in some art, and there's not a single purity seal in sight.
>>557226382that armor set's been in the game for 3 years too and they refused to give it to us and instead they only offered the shitty rust camo radioman version with the vox headset
>>557226549>The neck is still exposed tooOh yeah, this. Seriously, NUKE SWEDEN
>>557226598And the kasrkin at home tie in with the board game.
>>557225873Why not?
>>557195429>how do I make the weakest class in the game not boring to playyou play a different class
>>557228508Never did like reddit tier "subverting the question with an indirect answer" nonsense like this.
>>557228704who asked, unc
>>557228704It's not specifically reddit, unhelpful forum answers goes back decades.
So what cool cosmetics did the arbeetus and hive cum finally get?
>>557231061
>>557231061Kind of insane that people care about this when arbites has 2 melee weapons
>>557231761Cosmetics still have a chance, anyone who thinks Fatshark will make new weapons is beyond delusional
>>557231761and I want my arbites shock maul to look super cool, so what
>>557231761Your game might be bugged, my Arbites has like 7 weapons.
this is why the game is balanced around heresy for babies.
>>557239427>those shitty perks and blessing
>>557239427Ogryn player, too
>>557239596Please understand, he doesn't know how to use the crafting station and is just rawdogging that item gacha.
>>557239427I think the Ogryn is smarter than that player
>>557188219Rather play this
>>557239427>color-coded baby mod>doesn't even know what one of the buttons does
>>557243975>vet holding a krakHeh
>>557245461It's weird how much foreigners care about US politics
>>557243975I like that players chose to abbreviate this game as WanG
>>557246194Is it? Imperium has always been subject to scrutiny from its vassals throughout history, just because the US isn't one in name doesn't mean it avoids the same effects.
>>557245461Kill all libtards
>decide to try exec stance with infantry lasgun again>dont get a single melee frontlinre on my team, feels like i'm mired in muck with 2+ poxers in melee at all times>decide to go back to charge zealot>THREE scrier's gaze greatsword psykers I'm gonna fucking kill myself
>>557246330how incredibly natural and comical
>>557246497The difference being those past imperiums could whip people as they saw fit if they caught them doing that
>>557154125>>557154582i have both AMA
>>557247773Is your cock massive or just above average?
>>557247861its quite massive, i have trouble hiding it so i need to wear loose pants
ny1 wnt 2 pley havc geimu????!?
>>557248743i'm a heterosexual CIS male btw
i dont play with troons
>>557253184Enjoy never winning ;^)
>>557253229this is a baby casual gameno troons in any pro scene that matters. go speedrun some gay shit from 40 years ago no one cares about
>>557253184Cool, neither do I desu
>>557253357>this is a baby casual gameSounds like my sisters have been doing a good job at carrying you so far
I like LARPing as a fanatically devout grandma with my femAgitator Zealot :)
>>557254727You live action roleplay it?
Why won't poxbursters explode sometimes when I push them? They just fall to the ground without exploding and then get back on their feet again.
>>557257143They'll only get properly pushed back and explode if you're their target, and to be their target you have to be the closest player to them (to path to) for a second or two. When they're actively diving their pushing hitbox is massively increased for whoever is their target (same as dogs (but not anyone else)) so if you're near a teammate about to get bursted then good luck.They also won't burst if you push them while they're still 'inactive' and not moving like after they vault or are already in their tumbling/get up states. Yes it's really awful.
>>557257602That's bullshit.
>>557090884the rats are cute.
I can't believe they're really releasing a new Felinid class this year with the summer update!
>>557247463The point is the founding fathers set out to recreate Rome, and they got their wish for better and for worse.
>>557121481How about I just play Heresy and just have fun killing Heretics? And the only reason to interact with the shop is because I see a cool looking cosmetic I can afford?
>>557258060We already got a felonid with the scummer update.
>>557258190That's my Hive Scum's name
>>557090884It's called tradition. Tradition creates a sense of belonging. Provides stability and comfort. Passes on values and identity. And strengthens relationships.
Why does it feel like certain weapons (Power Sword, Relic Blade, almost all Ogryn weapons) just ignore my inputs half the time making it very difficult to do combos with them?
>>557266086Because the game buffers like 4 of your inputs. Stop panicking.
>>557266086programing hard, pls undrstnd
Do you need Combat Ability Regeneration if im playing BTL arby?
>>557268959Yes.Taking Targeted Brutality, picking EO with Malocator and then taking max CDR causes BTL cooldown to be like 7 seconds, being able to put all enemies onto the floor every 7 seconds is extremely strong.
>>557268959No you don't need it, but some people take it anyway. It reduces the cooldown by 1-2 seconds. It's up to you if you think this is worth it or not. But for Nonceo Aquila it's very good. Reduces cooldown by 7 seconds.
>>557266086Because you're not pacing your inputs right.
>>557269651>Unresponsive controls are a featureOk I guess I'll just keep using weapons that don't actively fight my inputs like the dueling sword and knife lol
>>557163314>>557163450Huh. I would swear that the icon timer doesn't seem to animate when I sprint, but that could just be "a watched pot never boils". But fair enough, I'll time it myself later on, for reassurance if nothing else.
>>557274715Ah, I see the issue now. You're good with fast weapons, which obviously have faster input buffering by their very nature, and struggle when the same mashy gameplay does not succeed on slower weapons.
Trying to round out Scum penances. I want to stimm supply people and get their ults rolling. I know there have been adjustments to the crate but havent done a build witth it yet.>team ults>i throw crate >stimm myself with just kalma (45 seconds)>do dirt>practiced deployments takes 15 seconds off my crate(?)>stimm and crate come back together>do dirt againIs that right?
>>557279248>Is that right?No.Your crate must consume your stimm in order to share it.You cannot cooldown stack. You cannot benefit from your own stimm. You must have it available, and consume it to place the crate.All Practiced Deployment allows you to do, is immediately throw the crate when your stimm comes back.
>>557278756Did you copy and paste this from reddit?
>>557279913Why do you sound upset? It was only an answer to the initial query.
>>557279913I don't think he's wrong. I sometimes fumble the Branx after playing Shivs for a long time.
>>557282582Why did Fatshart decide to start calling standard olive drab "Wadi" camo?
>love big slow weapons>am a nervous shaky mfI got no fucking cadence mangot no rhythm :(
>>557282731The Branx doesn't even have this problem as badly as the power sword as long as you pace it correctly, the power sword literally just drops inputs and will sometimes go completely unresponsive for a second or so at a time where it just won't do anything no matter how many inputs you make
>>557285451>the power sword literally just drops inputs and will sometimes go completely unresponsive for a second or so at a time where it just won't do anythingAre you sure you aren't running out of stamina during the special activation? I'm pretty sure it forces you to block, and then if you run out of stamina, you get stunned.
>>557279248practiced deployment allows you to do a stimm that is less than 60 seconds and get stimm pack back faster is really allsay you use the personal stimm @ 45 cd, then stimm pack, then it when personal stimm comes back off CD so does the pack. thats really all. there used to be a bug that allowed you to spam them but I think its fixed(?)
>Jeetinald makes an infantry lasgun build video>No deadshot>Frags instead of kraks>Wrong knife mark>Taking the attack speed node on a knife build>Comments disabledYup. It's jeetin' time.
>>557287589>infantry las when laspistol existsIs this a kriegger thing?
>>557287589Post lasgun build.
>>557287741No it's a Cadia thing. Kriegers use helbores.
>>557287589>>No deadshotI wouldn't use that either.>>Frags instead of kraksSeems fine when you're not going into rotten armour havocs? When I have fuckall horde clear on my gun AND melee I also want that one.>>Wrong knife markTrue. I recently happened upon him when he was using the knife and he barely even knows how to.>>Taking the attack speed node on a knife buildAlso true. I think he made a bunch of mistakes with the build in regards to the knife.
>>557287762Do you mean mine or his? If you mean his then just watch the video, if you mean mine, then I guess if I absolutely had to use the thing then I would take his and make the changes specified in that post. I think the top third of veteran's tree is mostly up to preference and that there isn't a huge difference between taking something like out for blood vs. exhilarating takedown. Mainly I just find it bizarre that he would build into something that fits perfectly with deadshot and then not actually take it. He even took the marksman's focus subnode that restores stamina on headshot kills but not the sole perk that is designed to work with.
>>557288384>Seems fine when you're not going into rotten armour havocs? When I have fuckall horde clear on my gun AND melee I also want that one.Vetsissy is going to get molested if he goes into anything above snoric without a means of dealing with crushers. You can get away with just using a knife as your crusher tool if you take shout, but there is no way that a vetsissy with zero melee nodes and no shout is going to be able to defend xerself from armor with that build. I'm sure it's doable in a havoc premade lobby (until one player dies) but that's not realistic.
>>557288698If the knockback from shout lets you knife crushers to death then you can achieve the same effect with frags, lowers ttk and clears the trash around them as well.
>>557288698>anything above snoricIsn't it faster to just write 'Havoc', anon?
>>557290126We're not about to have a frags vs. kraks debate, this issue has been solved for over a year now
>>557290516Not only have we concluded frag vs krak is just preference, it's also stated in the video you can use whatever you want.
>>557287589I wish Tranner was still alive to spergrage about this video.
>>557287589>The bigger they areWHAT A FUCKIN RETARDED MONGOLOID JEET
>>557287589>RealAsianRobot>Reginald>ChocoBWhy asians can't into vidya gaems?
>>557290516This debate you speak of never pertained to the vacuum of one specific build where you take a shitty gun that's only good for special and gunner sniping, and a melee that can barely cleave two mobs in the same swing.
>>557291116did you forget your blood pressure medication anon?
>>557290781>weFrag vs krak is preference in auric.In havoc, frags are an instant DECLINED. I don't give a fuck about your hypothetical tranny premades. I will not accept a rando with frags, end of.
>>557291384thanks for sharing
>>557290781>frag vs krak is just preferencelol
>>557288698>>557291384>premades>implying only the frag build would rely heavily on teammates to kill enemies for it>when the same thing would happen with kraks only instead of a few dozen crushers it'd be hundreds of poxwalkers and bruisers
>hey man can u bring kraks instead of frags?>yeah sure bro :)It's that easy.
>>557291830You're right. The correct answer is smoke. Why is /copeg/ so autistic today?
>>557291897bro your mandatory meta bubble inferno psyker?
>>557292075Trvthnvke
>>557291897Not her but genuinely why the fuck would you ever be concerned about hordes in havoc when psyker exists and will be present guaranteed in every lobby
>>557290142There are havoc difficulties below auric, no?
>>557292553True, Havoc itself isn't like Auric difficulty until... 20? I don't think anyone plays those besides to rank up though given the barrier to gameplay that is the party finder so I'm not sure I'd count them
>>557292215>>557292435Terrible argument. What about your mandatory meta frontline 90% rending blunt weapon arbitrator/ogryn? Damn, I guess now you're only in the team to snipe, leave everything else to your teammates. I'm sure they hate it when you take some pressure off of them and their roles.
>>557291364FUCK THISI EMBRACE MY ANGER
>>557101598Only time I got kicked was when I qp dropped into an auric game where two girls and her simp were getting their shit pushed in hard. I solo clutched and rezzed them all twice. They got real pissy when I was solo clutching for the second time and I genuinely offered simple advice like stay within visual contact of teammates, use chokepoints when possible so you can control the flow of enemies and don't fight in an open area by yourselves (they scattered like scooby doo 24/7 and screamed when they got nabbed by a trapper or a dog). They kicked me right before we got to the exit because they thought I was being "rude". Next game I jumped in with 3 dudes on comms and we all laughed at how horrible they acted and spedrun the mission. Women are the most spiteful and vindictive team mates and I have never experienced a similar situation with men.
>>557292928I just leave match in situation where I am only reason they aren't losing still
>>557292928The only time I have ever been kicked from a Darktide match was I think either during the beta or immediately after launch when I joined a damnation mission with my level 16 zealot and two of the players stopped in their tracks immediately and said in chat "we need people who are at least level 25 to play this difficulty" before kicking me
>>557080746Double freedom in the superstore Y/N?
>>557258060>>557253485>>557248743Cute anime girl sex
>>557291246Biological thing. Something about them just eludes their oriental minds.
>>557294313If you're a shotgun enjoyer it's kind of a must have.
>>557291384Kraks are only ever needed and 100% necessary in rotten armor and encroaching garden.In other modifiers crushers are purely a DPS check that your team can easily get over without kraks.
>>557298532shut up
>>557299982Uooohhhh
>>557299982She died after her head and enormous horns slipped off the bed and broke her neck RIP
Man. Just had a psyker true level over 2500 and a vet true level over 1100 in my heresy quickplay.
>>557303116Why are you on Heresy?
>>557303267You're projecting insecurity so fucking hard right now, he could be a new player you know
>>557303626It's an innocent question, maybe the one who's projecting here is you.
>>557303706Don't try to play it off retard, everyone knows exactly what you were trying to do by asking him why he's on Heresy, you just forgot new players exist in your endless projection
>>557303879>let me tell you what your intentions areThis is textbook projection anon.
>>557303626New player with the true level mod?I would gave guessed that he was getting weeklies or penances out of the way
>>557303972>let me pretend it wasn't obviousAt least the backpedaling implicitly admits you know you were being fucking retarded for no reason>>557304101everyone I know had mods before hitting level 30
>>557304237Holy schizoid
>>557304289He's just insecure
>>557304532Keep whining. So why WERE you playing Heresy if you're not shit? I only play aurics.
>>557304579I'm neither the guy who played heresy nor the guy who pooped his pants when he got asked why he was playing heresy
>>557304894>poopNurgle get out
>>557304894Can't help but notice you didn't deny that you play heresy. So you're like him and you're both shit then, and projecting at me because you got called out?
>>557305186You are retarded
>>557306887Now post the scoreboard
>>557306887I've never seen so much talk in a game, barely anyone uses chat when I play and when they do it's pretty much just tactical stuff and the customary post-game gg, maybe some compliments if someone pulled off a good clutch.
>>557307162I don't use scoreboard sadly, only time I've regretted it. If I had to guess I was miles ahead and Balthazar-Golp (Psyker) was second place.
I love you, no matter what.
>>557308270Say no homo, right now!
>>557308270Even if i was Jeffrey Epstein?
>>557306887So what happened there? You solo carried a game and they got mad?
Which blessings on the penis sword? I figured uncanny and executor since they synergise with flame stick.
>>557308352>>557308396JESUS TOLD ME TO LOVE YOU NOT MATTER WHAT
>>557306887>go ahead and change my diaperThe Dwarf guy talks like some people I've seen in this thread.
>>557309125The dueling sword? Thrust
>>557308828It was Excise Vault Spireside-13 on heresy, the one with the 28 Years Later tower and 3 battery objective at the end. I joined in on three people near the start, ReallyTallDwarf is the ogryn and Balthazar-Golp was a psyker. Somehow during the bridge-lowering part, they were all above me on the scaffolding and two of them got pounced by poxhounds. I shot the one off the ogryn but couldn't get line-of-sight on the other, ogryn saved him but then all three of them went down immediately. IDK what fucking happened, I sprinted up and there was a single Scab non-elite gunner on them. The psyker died before I got up and the other guy quit into a bot, I picked up the ogryn and we moved on.Mateo-nis joined when we got to the 28 Years Later tower objective and dropped those first two lines while still loading in. When we went to the elevator after that part, Mateo-nis fell behind looking for ammo so the ogryn clapped back with the stay together line.After the hangars where you drop off into the section with the two vaults to open to the checkpoint, the ogryn got downed and Mateo-nis picked him up, we proceeded as normal. Like 3 minutes later we cleared the way to the checkpoint and Mateo-nis got downed and somehow he was still above the drop-off point, right where he raised the ogryn, so we couldn't save him. The flaming began here.In the final area I dashed to Mateo-nis, killed all the elites guarding him and specialists that spawned on me, and raised him. They were arguing between fighting and I basically had to solo all three of the battery vault objectives, to the ogryn's credit he did begin helping me with them eventually. When we got to the extraction elevator the ogryn and psyker wouldn't get inside and kept killing the hordes instead while they argued. Then the psyker got downed by a trapper-bomber duo and the ogryn got him up and they got in the elevator after that, then they just sort of flamed each other in the results screen. It was unbridled kino.
>>557292928I got kicked midway from my own mortis trial match so that they could invite their fourth friend :(
>>557310045The deimos force sword.
I had fun playing Killing Floor 3 today anons :)
>>557313720Who paid you to say that?!
>>557313928My own wallet :(On another different note, that toxic commando game looks neat
Scumbros one more pearl of truth please. How does Chemical Dependency interact with the stimm? Or does it not, and you wouldn't mess with it if you are actually putting your stimm into the crate with a short cd? Im assuming it doesnt.
>>557314778Any stimm use triggers Chemical Dependency, normal stimms, the cartel special, and the crate if it's loaded up with a stimm's effect will all give you stacks.
>>557313720>tried both hd2 and vt2 for the first time since early 2024 today>feel like snoozing during each matchshould I try it, I never played kf2 so I don't know what I'm missing
>>557314778Stimm crate gives a stack even if it's not filled with a stimm. You can quickly reach max stacks on a briefcase build if you have practiced deployment
>>557314960>>557315512Right but that wont matter if my stimm cd is already shorter than my crate's cd? I should take a different keystone? I want to get crates out and people buffed pronto and all the time. Or am I not really understanding how I should be using this crate?
>Really liked going unga bunga as scum>Using the crowbar and going all in on crit etc>First 2 weeks of release I was literally soloing bosses, waves and daemonhosts on Auric by myself as long as I could hit them and saved my stim to clear corruption.>Just beating them to death, I was immortal>Muck about with other classes>Get really into Havoc since mate came back and wanted to climb>Play Arbites and Psyker for a couple weeks>Decide to play Scum since its been awhile>All of a sudden my build is trash and I can no longer unga bunga through everythingDid they nerf scum when I wasn't looking? I used to be able to generate infinite toughness and only have to actually dodge hard cc.
>>557315317honestly? no, not unless it's on deep discount
>>557315972If the stimm cooldown is faster than the crate, take the node that refreshes the ability as soon as a stimm becomes available, that'll let you buff as the stimm comes off CD rather than having to wait for the crate.
>>557315972If your stimm has a really short cooldown using practiced deployment you can spam the briefcase and use it as a constant corrupt immunity buff and a chem bomb (the other keystone) for horde clear/choke point control. It's a really fun way to play the class in my opinion and effective too. Make sure you take the node that makes it have a short ground duration too - this allows your stim to come off cooldown much faster than if you injected it so you can afford to get more upgrades on it too
>>557243975smigger looks like he's having a blast
>>557316068I'm guessing you didn't use hyper critical those first weeks because that should have prevented you from regaining toughness
>>557316995Honestly I am going to have to comb over my spec. I don't think I changed anything but I do not remember. I was just happy to have something akin to slayer Bardin again.
Holy fuck. I'm grinding my way up through havoc right now. I haven't played this game since release and came back recently to play Arbitrator followed by scum when I get Arbitrator to a decent havoc level. But this grind is hell. I will host or find a lobby with high clearance players but then have to carry them but I'm not good enough to carry the entire team. Or I will have players who are genuinely better than me, but we still fail at clearance 21+ when shit just cascades and we have too many bosses on screen. Is it like this for everyone or am I just shit? I can usually carry a team through Auric Malestroms and have zero problem with aurics. I have a build that prioritizes the shotgun because I find it really satisfying
>>557318943Why arent you playing H40?
>>557316068no they buffed everything about it. the only nerf is nimble no longer boosts your dodge distance
>>557318943havoc is pretty brutal and you need to play differentlyadvancing quickly is a death sentence because of boss triggers and respawn points, so your first instinct when shit hits the fan should be to go backwards to make space to more easily clear hordes and packs of elites before trying to burst down bosses, and to ensure people don't respawn 500ft ahead if they dieyou will also want to pay more attention to your team comps to see if your team will be able to deal with all threats effectively/quickly
>>557319250I'm not at that clearance or realistically skill yet you monkey>>557321152Thanks for the tips. I find I normally get fucked when my team starts to rush, I spectate my H40 teammates and notice when they stand and wait for revives
>>557318943If there is final toll or something similar don't play arbitrator your entire character's kit is just useless
>>557323492it's not that bad, since if they turn red while staggered it doesn't insta break them out of ittaking shock mines into red is a giga throw though
>>557290964did xhe 41% xirself?
>>557318943I know you said you liked the arby shotguns, but if you are playing arby and feel like that bosses are the main issue, you should probably bring the Mk2b bolter with you.Basically only pull it out if there's a boss and then magdump them to chunk their health.Just magdump it into bosses and it shreds them. For blessings to use you should use either Cavalcade + Puncture or Shattering Impact + Puncture.Shattering Impact is good because it amps up all DoT damage, like Bleed and Soulblaze. And if your team has a psyker alongside you, then 40% brittleness for Bleed and Soulblaze stacks isn't nothing to sneeze at.Brittleness also amps up Chem Toxin's damage.
Does liquid refining have the most ass cavegen? Putting the refinery in a 60m deep pit, 100m directly below the wells. Driller is mandatory, solo is 1hr +, and its just an insane hassle.The cave should be forced to spawn the refinery above the wells.
>>557318943it's both a skill issue a teammate issue. Havoc 20-30 ish is purgatory where the difficulty is much higher than your teammates can handle. Once you hit 40 you'll most likely have better teammate and the game becomes easier. Hopefully fatshark will remove derank at some point.
playing quickplace during this event is so fucked man. I know its just auric but like people hardly use stimms it seems. this is a skill issue on my part, but sometimes there is just so much gas I cant even see shit :(
>>557316068Havoc is considerably harder than Auric. that's why you're not unga bungaing everything. go back to Auric and you'll be immortal again.
>>557313720which class did you play? Is vulcan still meta?
>>557080746what do you all think of the drg update fellas!
>>557332145I played a bunch of each class, still really low level and it seems like vulcan still does all the hard lifting. I'll probably go back when an update drops
>>557315317>vt2I was playing that before I came back to darktide and then I tried going back the other day and jesus the no sprinting is actually the worst kek
>>557316068there was a bug with dodging ranged attacks where it lingered long as fuck, making you basically immune to ranged enemies if you dodged enough (like hive scum do constantly)so now havoc pleb gunners are chunking down everyone more than they were
>>557340847Hive scum with nimble gets to keep that now though, that was the point
Why does Enginseer Kayex keep fucking up the port-side thrusters?
>>557351413The machine spirit is... Temperamental. Understand must you.
Boy I sure do love being wiped out by a wave of snipers in maelstrom despite having two veterans on the team who are afraid to return fire
>>557355250oh my fucking god dude why arent my teammates killing the snipers? OH MY GOD DUDE i just got by a sniper NOBODY killed AGAIN what is my team doing? oh my go-o-o-od.....
>>557352475God I love the machine spirit autism stuff the idea that your toaster might not work in the morning if you don’t polish it with WD40 and chant to it with lit candles surrounding it is so fucking funny
>>557355428t. panicking malicevet
>>557355824You forgot the sacred unguents (oil mixed with human blood) and the canticle of operation (instruction manual printed on human skin parchment)
>come back to darktide for the first time in months for the event>ogryn with less than 100k damage goes on an unhinged and unprompted rant at the end of mission because we kept leaving him behind and he couldn't tankLike being home.
>>557359883Was he an actual shield planting tonkgryn?
>>557193113Based.Sounds kino.
>>557368057https://youtu.be/LST_QYDwSsc?si=Ye9lO-XjuMKUQ1Gl&t=2803This guy does readings of it, timestamped for the relevant game of Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker
>>557235629Kek (idgi)
>>557368387Will check it out. Thanks.
>>557375161Yeah. I bet you will
i wan 2 pley havoc geimu!
>>557376182
Redacted regiment seems like the best warbond to grab for cyberstan. The stealth armour helps a lot with closing distance to vox engines so you can take them down efficiently.
