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Rampant Growth Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>557125072
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Consider me a rem main
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Venator owes me sex
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Apollo bros how we feeling?
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I just niggered a whole team as Bebop, feelsgoodman
Never try to fight me indoors again *presses 2* *presses 2* *presses 2* *presses 2* *presses 2* *presses 2* *presses 2*
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>>557149130
Ivy would NEVER do this. She is pure of heart.
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I am 31 years old, I weigh 120kg and I think about putting my full body weight on Graves as I violate her in multiple positions including missionary mating press and prone bone.
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>>557149102
anon I guarantee a huge chunk of those mentions are because of the fake "pro" player tournament going on during that thread and the controversy around their baseless claims that she's a must pick/first pick tier character and her terrible performance in said fake "pro" tourney
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>>557149268
I hope you put echo chard on your bomb, be the evil clanker you were meant to be
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>>557149268
Kill yourself
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>>557149270
of course, she's a work of art
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>>557149374
What causes this mass retardation where high rank players swear up and down that Silver is totally busted and super strong but they can't even make her work themselves?
How retarded are they?
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>>557149397
Nope, tier 2 cooldown, Witchmail, assorted green chunks
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mina nigger went 0/7 in lane how does this fucking happen it’s a billy and victor you were up against
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>>557149449
I've said it a million times it's some weird ego driven circlejerk mass delusion/group psychosis
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>>557149486
>Expecting a slut like Mina to successfully make it through lane phase against musky goat cock and yume bait without getting her holes blown out
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She could change career if she wanted.
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>>557148418
both of them are stains on this game's face and deserve to be removed
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>>557149486
sorry anon that was me
my gun just does no damage
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Did they adjust ranks again? I went up two whole ranks out of nowhere. Went from Arcanist to Emissary.
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reminder that Celeste was so fucking broken she was 6/6 on first bans
silver was picked every time but ate dirt
venator ate shit
rem did uhhh
and graves was completely unpicked
meanwhile mina, paige, billy were mainstays
also a very ambitious if sad drifter pick
this confirms the new six are worse than the old six
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>getting goo punched or buckshot when playing celeste
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Are there any other countries you'd want to see have a character/representative?I'm surprised there's no Australian character
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>go 18/5/14
>lose because we have a 0/17/4 kelvin
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>>557149554
She should change career... INTO A HOUSEWIFE!
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>Win 4 matches in a row as Ritualist 6
>Don't go to Emissary 1
>Lose 1 single match today
>Go down to Ritualist 5 instantly
Huh, alright then
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>>557149610
toxic yuri....
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>>557149704
Kali had an aussie accent before they banished him
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>>557149554
>>557149713
gas all waifufags
subhuman trash that ruins this game
go back to whatever sewer you crawled out of
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>>557149713
we all deserve a werewife.
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>>557149486
that was me I didnt want to play mina I just wanted to play celeste so put mina in my heroes
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Does Apollo have the hots for any of the women in this game?
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>>557149671
kek
imagine if you got hit by more than one at the same time
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>enemy celeste talking shit all game in all chat
>I end up winning anyways
Holy hell I am about to have the most restful sleep ever.
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EVIL DIES TODAY
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why didn't mina just groom apollo
being literal royalty is better than magic lockmart wife
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>>557149630
This just reinforces the fact that the people complaining about Graves are actual shitters
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>>557149868
He wants to have sex with abrams
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>>557149868
yes, pocket
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>>557149802
*sucks your cock*
pssshhh... nothin personnel, chud.
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>>557149941
>play with a fren
>he picks haze and goes 0/11
>we manage to win
>send "easy, thanks for free elo" at the end
Jesus fucking christ did I called him a filthy cum drinking niggerfaggot at the end.
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>>557149704
>>557149757
I'd be happy with an australian character as long as they get an actual aussie to voice act this time, I cringed hearing a couple of sniper's lines and realized it was just a guy putting it on
>>557149802
Nope
I will continue to play this game and I will continue to post here and I will continue to post the wifwolf
And you will continue to be mad
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>>557149750
Yamato is fucking gross. No.
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how people get so many souls
im constantly behind souls in lane and then 5k-10k at the end in every game
farming is so convoluted compared to dota 2 and lol
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>>557149630
>Celeste was so fucking broken
We won't get to see if she was actually broken because we didn't get to see her in action a single time
What's her pick and win rates like is the real question though
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I haven''t tried him yet, but Doorman looks like no fun at all if playing solo unless you're extremely good at the game
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>>557150094
>farming is so convoluted compared to dota 2 and lol
no its not? just fucking shoot the cyclops aliens. monster rounds works against them, if you are hardcore farming upgrade it to cultist sacrifice and use it to instakill one of the big red ones
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>>557150094
>early : once your lane is pushed, try to grab crate / lv 1 camp
>mid : roam around, grab crate / camp and/or grab cultist sacrifice
>late : for the love of god don't stay in the fucking jungle like 50% of the playerbase, do team fight and win this thing
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>>557149704
Slork will be aussie. I can feel it.
If not just give us a Crocodile Dundee hero. It's such a cliche but nobody ever actually does it.
Dundee even went to New York in the second movie.
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>>557149954
>KATHUNK
>*hits the wall behind you*
>KATHUNK
>*overadjusts and hits the wall in front of where you'll be*
>KATHUNK
*hits the wall behind you again*
The work is done.
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what does ivy breast milk taste like ? raw liquid concrete ?
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>nerf movement a hundred times in a row
>clearly think the game's movement is already at it's peak
>should we add new mobility options that are side steps to the ones already in the game?
>maybe a character that can walk or run on walls?
>spiderman swinging?
>no let's just add someone that has holiday's jumpads air movement passively
>let's also make her budget 1 and 4 stamina
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN SHE'S BUSTED??? REEEEEEE

i swear if this bitch gets the whole movement system nerfed like what happened with abrams and shiv with melee i'm gonna lose it
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>>557148872
anyone can use their imagination on a character, unless you got like Aphantasia and can't imagine things
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>>557150189
You don't need to be that good to buy refresher and send somebody to the baroness twice in a row. I assure you this is very fun to do.
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maybe it's cope but sometimes i think the people on my team deserved to lose more than i deserved to win.
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>>557150265
Salty bags of rocks
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Should I learn Rem instead of Ivy
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>>557150352
I had this exact feeling the other day after everyone on my team would rather siege the enemy base instead of getting mid boss for free when I called to go mid. Then we lost because the enemy respawned and dabbed on everyone and got mid boss. I had an actual "it can't be helped, it was meant to be this way" moment.
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>>557150479
Yes, learn Rem. Ivy is for me.
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>>557149236
I will be doing this to any and all Venator players.
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>>557149268
>Celeste'ing in Brawl
>fight bomb spam Bebop-fag
>get the spell parry item
>negate his bomb and kill him
>he ragequits
Bebopfags are a curious bunch
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>>557150542
I find this image hysterically funny because of the little Raven map icon in the speech bubble. What did he mean by this?
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>>557150507
whenever i get those games i just free myself mentally and run it down.
it's just not worth carrying apes sometimes.
just lost a one hour long game by walking into someone and mo grabbing them on the mid bridge, the game was in the hands of my teammates at that point and the other team simply showed up to help quicker.
not my problem.
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>ZZZgachaslave calling anyone else a fag
KEKYPOW
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ivy's fun to play. i like her spanish lines :D
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>>557150660
ESPEGA!!
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>>557150660
What's your build on her? I like heal+spirit ivy, that's fun
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whats the best replacement after selling bullet resist shredder on drifter
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>Vindicta counters every single new character except for Venator
>Nowhere to be seen
Weird
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>>557150715
i kinda don't like the new echoey ult sounds
it makes the loud and fLASHy ones feel less special
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When are they nerfing rem
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>>557150791
I can't aim, I'm the Deadlock version of this nigga
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>>557150904
this guy could have single handedly saved the world, crazy
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Hey homies I'm trying to find my 3rd hero pick and I'm torn between Drifter and Victor because their designs are kinda cool and make me think "the people who play these dudes eat glue"
Are they are retard proof as they seem or do they have nuances that a semi-new (I have 70 hours in the game) player might not understand at first glance?
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>>557151078
drifter has the highest winrate in the game right now.
just don't be a fucking retard and dive for kills that you will never get because MUH STACKS and you'll be fine.
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>>557150771
i was playing gun ivy but now i’m playing the healmaxxing/spirit build someone posted here
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>>557150609
Probably on the off chance someone didn't know who it was supposed to be.
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>>557151025
He's no warden
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Cuddling and frotting with Apollo.

Imagine.
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Trapping Paige in the Baroness and raping her
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>>557151212
Can you post it I would like to try it.
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>>557150047
im fine with celestefags since they're fairly non-prominent in the community + she's not as egregiously bad as silver, only being a lil bit flat character-wise

>>557150064
you wont play this game for too long considering you will be responsible for its downfall
also jesus how shit can your taste be to adore such a fucking chinkslop-tier character
maybe gacha games are more up to your speed, pal
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>Graves rushes Refresher for her second item
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>>557151539
did it work or was she 0-12-5 kda 7.4k damage?
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>>557151539
The sweatlord's cortisol was spiking as he was itemmogged by the funmaxxing grave.
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>>557150094
It only feels harder in deadlock than in dota 2, because in deadlock you can see the enemies exact networth at all times, while you have to actually add up the value of their items in dota 2
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>>557151539
Based
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>>557150479
Im #1 rem player cause of the sackboy mod, makes him 100x more fun to play for me.
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>>557151491
>you wont play this game for too long considering you will be responsible for its downfall
Already been playing it for 700 matches, I'm sure it'll be fine for a while longer
>maybe gacha games are more up to your speed, pal
>seriously suggesting anyone play a g*cha
You are a demon, I'm afraid
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>>557151539
i saw a graves buy merc mag yesterday.
do these people even test these items on their character before they buy them to see how terrible they are?
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Which hero do you hate seeing on your team the most because you know they're gonna feed and singlehandedly throw the game?
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>>557151909
venator.
i've seen like 12 of them now and 9 of them were on the losing team.
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>>557151909
Sinclair if I am not the one playing as him.
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>>557151909
none cause im not retarded, they're at my mmr too

the only heroes i have a visceral reaction too are the blatantly OP ones like haze and paige, especially paige since she has an unbeatable lane
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what if mexican bartender had a tail again
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Deadlock is dying, it just hit its lowest CCU since February 5. XQC stopped streaming it after a day because he was terrible, a bad impression to his entire audience. Shroud is only played 1 match of Street Brawl a day, wasn't even streaming it the last 2 days, probably dropped it already. Charlie stopped a week ago. No other big streamer ever picked it up.
It's over, the momentum is gone.
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Ignore and report /v/igger bait
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>>557150064
>>557151689
Based character and fun enjoyer
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>>557152093
Doesn't do anything
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Matt Mercer did an ok job with Drifter but some of his lines sheesh he needs to work on the accent a bit I think, some lines he sounds menacing others he sounds too goofy
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>bait
niggas really acting like people in this very general weren't saying that this game is fucking DOGSHIT when it comes to player retention an entire year ago
they've done nothing to fix that part
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silver isn't bad melee creeps just isn't picking her
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>>557151248
Now I've just got the mental image of someone holding a presidential rally only to hear 'IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD' booming over the whole thing before some nigga in a bobby uniform combat rolls off the roof and wipes out the president and his security detail with some mystical cone of damage
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>>557152112
Silver is anti-fun, it's the most sweaty character because you HAVE to actually deal damage in order to ult. You cant just press 4 and win.
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Getting stuck on lane janny duty is worse than hell
>If you leave, enemy creeps(supplemented by their weakest player who is splitpushing all game to catch back up) will take all your walkers
>If you stay, your teammates will try to nonstop BROOL and then complain you aren't grouping with them
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>m1 gun character but she's not allowed to use any of the fun gun items
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apollo will make deadlock great again
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>>557152217
I play Silver for fun, she's very fun to me and my new main
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>>557152204
>melee creeps just isn't picking her
wisely so
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>>557152219
i lost a match where i had 22k objective damage as rem
my team wouldnt stop engaging but also wouldnt farm jg or side lanes
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>>557152093
see >>557152164
its not bait, why would most people come back to this game in a month when they can just play overwatch again and get 2 skins per match
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>>557152219
>If you stay, your teammates will try to nonstop BROOL and then complain you aren't grouping with them
This but your teammates dies in a 3v2 fight
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>>557150791
Didn't the change from extra souls to permanent dmg unironically gut her because she has absolute trash tier farming?
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>>557152386
I look like this and would feel very represented if Valve added a buff midget to Deadlock
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>>557152219
if i end up solo defending two walkers while my teammates are constantly dying out in the middle of nowhere on the map i just buy shit items and fuck around with a dumb build.
no point in trying if i have teammates like that.
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Honestly I see Deadlock having worse player retention than TF2 which will likely outlive yet another ripoff attempt. Deadlock has no cosmetic customization of any sort, no gaining exp for every match played to level up. You don't even get free items just for playing(which can be crafted, traded, and turned into REAL MONEY) This time next year, Deadlock will be a ghost town with CCU numbers you would expect from a dead indie game, not something made by the biggest game devs on the planet
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can someone explain to me what the ranking system is dumbed down to simple terms
need to know where i sit at
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>>557152535
archon = good at the game
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>>557152535
Everything below Oracle is pisslow. Oracle is pisslow neutral. Phantom has humans playing in it.
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>>557152535
>Be in Hideout
>Press Esc
>Mouse over to top right of your screen
>Click on your own Steam profile picture
>Click Sort By: and switch it from Time Played to Skill Rating
>Mouse over your rank for details
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>>557152535
It doesn't matter unless youre trying to go pro
Going to get reset anyway
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>>557152534
>TF2
Stopped reading there
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>>557152649
replied to blatant /v/ bait award
congratulations on feeding the trolls and helping make this place worse
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How to play against the rem who gets helpers as his first skill in lane? That shit is torture. You lose push every time. You can't trade because you would take a shit ton of trooper damage. It takes ages to kill heal minions. Some of these fucks, even time the helplers when the trooper is low to heal them to full hp
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>>557152585
>Phantom has humans playing in it.
no, it does not.
plenty of subhumans and bots still playing at this rank.
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It doesnt fucking matter if we reply to bait or not
Theres a janny on /v/ with a grudge against Deadlock and kills Deadlock threads whenever he isnt jerking off or sleeping
So all the /v/tards who are only able """"discuss""" games by posting ragebait twitter screenshots of trannies or player count charts will come here because they cant do it on /v/
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>>557152759
buy monster rounds and just obliterate them or let your tower get slowly pummeled and farm safely without taking damage from them (the boring option).
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>>557152759
I hope they nerf it or just make him unable to put it on troops, buying monster rounds does not help
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>>557152585
Anything below Oracle are Oracle/Phantom/Eternus smurfs wanting to vent on new players.
Oracle is Gold Nova/Legend-Ancient.
Phantom is DMG-LEM/Divine
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>>557152772
I said it had humans not that it was exclusively humans.
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>You can't simply ignore them! Ignoring them doesn't do anything which is why I, a neutral and honest commentator, am so insistent that you NOT ignore them and feed them the engagement they crave. You MUST reply to bait, you MUST!!!1!
Hang yourself
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>>557149130
>>557149270
>>557149713
mindbreaking them with deep, romantic, passionate tongue kisses and unconditional affection
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Does this mean im finally good at a game?
t.never played anything comp before
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I like watching high rank players play Sinclair but hate playing him myself, such a gay little nigger hero
>O ho ho you cant catch me
>Oh you caught me whoops you're a rabbit now
>*teleports away*
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>>557152386
>Didn't the change from extra souls to permanent dmg unironically gut her because she has absolute trash tier farming?
More or less, Vindicta pretty much only works right now if you're stomping, if you don't get 4-5 ult kills out of lane the game might as well be 5v6 because she'll spend the rest of the game catching up + assassinate kills are harder to get after laning phase.
GT pretty much does everything she does but better, not only he's better at farming but he can farm and collect stacks at once since he can send his nikita missiles across the map while Vin has to lug her (extremely) fat ass to participate in fights.
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>healing trooper low
>send a helper to heal it to full
>melee trooper low
>send a helper to heal it to full
>both get low again
>heal them to full, heal my lane partner, and heal myself to full after trading 2 pillows point blank
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>>557152953
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guys i want to kiss apollo
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Any rank beneath Eternus 7 is dogshit
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REMINDER:
yuor rank = pisslow
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>>557153085
eternus 7 is still dogshit
did you see floormen
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>>557153151
I'm seeker 4 so unironically yeah
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I see now finally, so when people were saying silver op, they were talking about a secret even more elite fight club style proscene the public is unaware of
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>>557152535
The valve ranking systems in every game they've ever released work are split in the following:
>The entire ranking system
>The guys who form teams and play in the tournaments/scrim
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>>557152920
i can agree with this more than the retarded "oracle = bronze, phantom = silver" thinking
there is no game where oracles would not mop the floor with bronze players
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>>557153095
>>557153258
rope
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>>557153258
i wish you wouldn't post things like this
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>>557152985
I'm 200 hours in and oracle 4
Do with that as you will
I wouldn't worry too much about rank, just play for fun/improving. By the time we get an actual ranked/solo que mode you will be smurfing on all the newfags.
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>>557153258
>every straight character is bi just because
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>>557153035
Vin was a pos 4 character that is being forced to play pos 1.
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Why does Drifter talk like a retard
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they need to add mana costs to everything

get rid off the FPS babies
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>>557152641
Resets are retarded, its a sorting algorithm. Why would they start over and make the match quality shit again?
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>>557153258
so true
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>>557153459
>have to now buy transcendent mana along with cooldown
>meanwhile gunfags can just still build 284637372 bullets
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>>557153258
>the same general that keeps posting "sex with [male character]!" somehow digusted by this pic
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>>557153459
only if you need to buy ammo magazines too
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>>557153459
You're retarded and I'm glad your suggestion ends up nowhere
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>>557153157
>floormen
is this a joke about bad doorman players or am i missing something
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>>557153583
attacking is free in dota and hard carries haven't been meta for 10 years
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>No more games!
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>>557153743
Its one of the teams that enters the deadlock nightshift regularly.
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Is Healing Rite a nigger item? Yay or nay?
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silver and her consequences have been a disaster for adult female fans
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>>557153640
being gay is not the same as being a faggot
sex with abrams
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>>557153694
>vyper thinking to herself
>"so this is how lash feels? this sucks more than getting stabbed outside a burger king"
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>CELESTE SUPER BROKEN OMEGA MOVEMENT NERF NERF NERF
>every Celeste I meet is useless monkey
huh?
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>>557153640
im straight but I would suck and fuck anyone
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does silver turn into a wolf during sex that's kinda NOT hot....
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>>557153870
Based but Lash too
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>>557153860
>adult female deadlock fans
yeah all 10 of them
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>>557153258
based warden cracking trans skulls
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Apollo will be Lion's son
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What determines if the game considers you to have enough "vision" on an enemy to put them on your minimap?
Within X meters of player + within Y degrees of forward FOV?
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second update truthers...
today's the day...
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IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD
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>>557153258
The world's most disgusting, unwashed, unpassable "transbian" made that image before grooming minors in the official deadlock discord
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>single-handedly filters every blue character for 3k souls
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>>557154318
based
mentally ill should be spiraled into eventually killing themselves
if you get groomed it's your fault
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>>557154318
The fucked up part is you're probably right. With their potential ERP partners (prey) you just know they try to plant labels like these on actual people they talk to.
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>>557154387
>blue character
what
do you mean purple? are you colour blind?
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>>557154387
>Buy 6400 bulletproof vest
>Buy 3200 bullet resilience
>Sneer at M1ggers
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>>557154387
>Lash combo now does 2k damage instead of 3k damage
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>>557154725
>are you colour blind?
Yes
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WHERE'S APOLLO ICE FRAUD
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>when the 60k haze (15k more than any of her teammates) goes to farm lanes that are pushed to the middle already instead of helping us in a teamfight, then blames the team
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>have a solid but stalled out lane, they have a Graves, I have a Rem, feels pretty good
>meanwhile the stooges on the other side of the map have collectively died TWELVE times by 6 minutes and fed a 10k soul lead to fucking Mina and Celeste, who proceed to rape the entire server just the two of them alone
I'm tired boss
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>>557154791
>Enemy damage reduced by 33%
Good
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>>557154798
oh okay, its purple not blue
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>>557153058
t-thank you...
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>>557154810
>lane pushing towards us
>have to go defend it
>retarded teammates who are behind refuse to actually defend lanes
>they force a fight
>"reee why did you not come"
have you ever considered that if your haze was so far ahead then the rest of you should have all been defending while haze goes around and helps people in fights and gets pick offs?
if haze is so far ahead then you should be shoving out every lane while haze pressures, not trying to force retarded fights and giving up your base.
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I have a feeling that this guy used to be completely busted and did auschwitz levels of damage with dots but has been neutered.
Somehow he just feels extremely weak.
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why did retards here thought that silver and holliday had the same VA?
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>>557154972
He's not weak its just the average infernus has collective brain damage since he used to be mega hitler OP for so long.
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>i play silver
>transformation takes shooting the enemy for 2 hours
>enemy plays silver
>they get transformation when i appear on their screen
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>>557154946
I accept your concession.
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>>557153947
I've seen some damn good Celestes, even discounting her mobility her skills are strong and she has a couple of good build paths open to her
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>>557155067
>the enemy has average aim
>I miss 80% of the bullets each time I reload
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>>557154972
yes
he isn't extremely weak you just need to aim now
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>>557155067
you need to melee a lot, hit every shot and have Express Shot/Torment Pulse
If that sounds fair to you then have fun.
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>>557155067
if you play a fat character you basically enable silver.
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>>557154972
napalm is still the most overloaded ability in the game.
what do you mean it slows, amps ALL damage, gives infernus lifesteal, and applies antiheal, oh yeah almost forgot, it also has charges.
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>>557155342
paige sisters....
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is splitshot vyper a meme?
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>>557149630
Graves is weak and calling her strong is a self-report
Silver is too easy to counter
Venator's numbers aren't up to snuff when compared to the other weapon characters after his one good button (ult) ate massive nerfs
Celeste is very strong and has way too much going on
Rem is also strong but is mostly carried by the strength of macro play his 3 gives
Yes the original six at are a higher power level on average
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le tackling blue man of rape
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>>557155495
potential man doing it again
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Do I misunderstand Graves weapon? I can not stand how short range it is. You need to be a cunt hairs worth of distance away forcing you to eat every instance of damage from all enemies/minions/etc. It doesn't even deal very good damage until you sustain your target or forcible build items for it. Your HP is overall low compared to most of the cast, again unless you build items for it (which lowers you total amount of items being useful for your attacks/skills). Yeah it's pretty good if you're not being focused and in a team fight, but if the enemy focuses you first, you're pretty much fucked. Also lmfao 2 stamina, cool

I like her as a character overall but her weapon seems so ass I almost don't even want to use it ever. Call me a noob I guess but her weapon is dogshit, I'd rather it have 2x the range but less damage
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What's the go-to combo when engaging people with Drifter's 2? I try to teleport in > melee > 1 but there's a weird recovery between all of those animations that makes it too slow and it's usually enough for people to react and run away
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>>557155570
she's kind of bad now that people know how to play against her
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>>557155570
she has high base movement speed
only 2 characters have substantially more MS than her
and like 2-3 others have 0.1 more MS than her

ur meant to use ur high speed to weave in and out of fights.
when u get extra MS on her she moves really fast
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>>557155014
Retards playing with music on
>WTF HOW DID HE SNEAK UP BEHIND ME WHERES MY AUDIO
>*Rap playing in the background*
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>activate disarm
>silver can't do anything now
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If Apollo isn't a close range melee I will be sad
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>>557154387
>single-handedly filters every blue character
>Used it against Abrams
>Ate shit
Huh!?
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>>557155654
cold front->2->1
the cold front blast follows you in if you tp fast enough and you get a free 1
melee is not worth it and not guaranteed
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>>557155554
>he didn't buy counterspell or unstoppable? activate it
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>>557155698
What are you disarming?
Her claws?
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Melee items should have their own color-coded shop.
I want to buy spectral kick, vacuum punch, and explosive headbutt
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>>557155706
he's probably going to just be a more damage dealing oriented billy.
he's going to have one or more skills that scale with melee damage, mix ups that punish people hard for parrying for no reason and shit.
please remember that rebuttal is only 800 souls for his release, everyone.
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>>557155912
How do you press x so fast its so awkward for me. Been thinking of rebinding it
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>>557155698
>release two characters with basically no spirit scaling
>don't change how strong disarms are or how they work and don't touch metal skin
there is zero reason to pick Venator over Warden or Wraith
Silver falls into the same issue except probably with Shiv or Abrams
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>>557155570
these are the "people" saying that melee heroes would be unviable btw
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>>557156042
you should probably just rebind it
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>>557156042
>so fast
nta, but he was mid-recovery animation for charge, so there was nothing else to do anyways
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>>557155382
it also refreshes the afterburn effect on enemies hit btw
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>>557155674
How much does movespeed really help you though when you are fighting against any number of characters that can and will; slow you, stun you, decay/DPs you, lock you down, focus you, etc? Obviously yes it's helpful but you are at the mercy of the enemy team and your teammates. Your teammates need to help you (they don't) and the enemy needs to be dumb enough to not attack you/focus you (they aren't). You can try to engage only with your team so you can attack without being focused but that doesn't always happen and you also have to participate in the game (farming, defending lane, etc) yourself.

Maybe I just need to play as her more, idk.
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>>557156245
>they don't
>they aren't
are you playing 1v6 every game or something?
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>>557156140
Silver's werewolf form proves that a pure melee hero would be terrible. Any kind of CC or kiting is brutal.
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>>557156367
her m1 is probably the rapiest weapon in the entire game though
if it was her wolf form THE WHOLE GAME she would be too much
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>>557156245
i'm not going to say to you she has no weaknesses or shes giga op or something anon
but you gotta play to her strengths

she has a lot of MS
great slow
excellent root
lots of free stats from her 3
and her ult also slows enemies and disrupts fights a lot
she even has very good self healing baked into her kit

her short range is basically her only real weakness
and that you can't build basically everything on her because she uses everything well

idk what to tell you
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Ivychads, recommend me any non-gun build you are playing now! I want to play her more, but looks like she's in some strange state now, i just don't feel her the same..
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We know Mina runs a clothing brand but how did her family get rich? what kind of business do they run?
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>>557156598
facesitting business
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>>557156598
a dicksucking business, you're their most productive employee.
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>>557156093
buy dispel retard
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>>557155912
Why does the enemy team's HP bar look like that? Is that a mod?
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>>557154946
t. haze orc
>>have to go defend it
both lane were literally pushed to the urn my boy
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mina mains owe me sex
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when are we getting new characters? (no one cares about apollo)
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>>557156673
okay I bought dispel but my opponent is still metal
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me puta
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abrams mains owe me sex
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>>557154972
he needs a rework, he's either unkillable or instantly killed based on his kit

icefraud does not understand how to design heroes in a league of legends type of itemization game
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>35 hours in
>discover just now player panel and that I have a rank
honestly UI needs some redesign or something
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>>557156691
console command
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When are you buffing her, Yoshi?
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what will Apollo's gimmick be?
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>>557156550
torment pulse + radiant regen + EE + range + infuser microwave build
alternatively melee (you lose instantly if the opponents buy debuff resist)
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>>557156367
that's because you're supposed to give a melee hero an actually balanced kit not some bullshit aoe that banks on sheer numbers to kill people
on a hero with actually good stamina and a hitbox that's not the size of a fucking truck you'd only need to change the disarm with a long range powerful hit and she'd be fine.
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>>557156916
some kind of parry ability that lets him dash/teleport at you
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does carpet disable if you take dmg now?
I keep getting dropped off my carpet
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Every time Drifter opens his mouth to do his scarier than thou edgy boogeyman shit I want to knock his teeth out with a sledge.
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Everyone says Abrams is easy but I see Abrams players feeding and pulling god awful scores most of the time
On the other hand a lot of people say Mina is hard and there are some feeders but more often than not she's dropping like double digit kills with 1-3 deaths
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>>557156916
being straight
dangerously hetero
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>>557157029
that's just Mina players downplaying, ignore them
Abrams is very easy though
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>>557156983
AAAAH I'LL RIP OUT YOUR THROAT
NO ONE WILL MISS YOUUU
STALKER'S MARK
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>>557157029
He's easy, but you need to have the right mindset to play him. Like baiting the enemy into corridors or places you can easily shoulder slam.
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>>557157029
Mina is op and it's easy to shit on Abrams players. Abrams players are also toddlers who lose their mental after 3 deaths.
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>>557156863
That's not a console thoughbeight
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>>557156983
>>557157062
lessee what yo insides look like
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>>557156983
the worst bit is him pretending he's an entity that's existed before mankind itself when he's speaking with a fucking cajun accent
nigga you're 300 years old at most don't flatter yourself you're no cain
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I'll take on all of you.
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Celeste's jacket is really growing on me
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>>557157029
i will never understand why people act like mina is hard
she has a lot of movement (her bat dash is the freest escape in the entire game) but it's 0 tech movement
all you need to do is hit like 5 shots for a massive nuke then get close for an easy cone ability
her ult puts you in a good position automatically and if that wasn't enough you can bats WHILE ULTING to reposition yourself in case you were a retard with shit positioning
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>>557157118
its still a console command bro
putitng +citadel_unit_status_use_new true in the launch options just makes it enable it on launch
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>>557157310
of the six heroes she was released with she was the hardest
Mina downplayers been clinging to that for dear life
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>>557157310
In LoL it's Yone Syndrome
A powerful character that becomes even more obscenely powerful when played well
But even playing them poorly requires you to press a lot of buttons
It psyops nitwits who think press a lot of button = hard to play even if you're just buttonmashing with your mouse in the general direction of the enemy

Mina is somewhat similar
>"Oh but she's squishy"
when she has free lane sustain on S1 and a get out of jail free card on S2
>"Oh but she's complex"
when her S3 is a passive so to pilot her you only need to keep in mind three abilities
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Any americans here?
Why did they give Celeste a New Jersey accent?
Is that region known for circus activity or is it seemingly random?
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>>557157507
because the game takes place in NYC
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>>557155912
so fucking jewish
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>>557157507
Not an Amerimutt but New Jersey is right next to NYC. In picrel for example Newark(city), even though it's right next door, is in New Jersey(state)
It's basically Valve going "we don't want literally all our characters to be from Manhattan because that makes the world seem too small, so we'll get someone reasonably close by"
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>>557156863
Neat, thanks. Idk why this isn't default, it looks so much better (I'm not >>557157118 btw)
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>>557157029
abrams is easy but he is not a new player-friendly character like the game recommends, he requires you to be comfortable with mechanics that you can get away with not knowing about on other characters when you first start the game (dash-jumping and playing around veils)
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>>557156836
Where is it
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>>557157795
you click on your profile pic in esc menu
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>>557157627
>there's a place named Hoboken
kek
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>>557157627
I think it seems kinda small already because most of the cast are American of some sort
We need more characters like Venator and Mirage who represent a different division of the supernatural with Venator having a Christian theme and Mirage having a middle eastern thing going on.
Add a European druid or wizard or witch, a voodoo guy, witch doctor
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>>557157627
This would be a cool place without all the niggers and jews
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>>557157627
Woke up this morning, got yourself a gun, your mama always said you'd be the chosen one.
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>>557153258
I bet drifter fucked some animal at least couple times to experience something new.
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>teammate has 5 deaths during the lane phase
What are some other sure signs that the next 40 minutes of your life is about to be wasted?
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>>557157229
In a fight, right?
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>>557157507
>>557157627
>>557158065
Five fuckin' heroes, and then we got this other tranny thing over in Jersey.
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>>557158221
that's hot
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>>557158165
someone on my team picks the blue girl
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>>557156906
She's good though
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>worst gun by far
>unsatisfying human mode abilities
>unreliable ult that has too many restrictions
>below-average laning
>halfbaked shitty character story of being a loser low-iq retard
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>>557158165
ive had double digit games this week where one lane loses really hard and teammates in those lanes have 5 deaths and we turn it around in midgame and win
if a lane feeds super hard and the game goes to 40 minutes that's now a team issue
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>>557157437
literally only paige is easier than mina
doorman needs you to be smart with your doors and his cart is hard to hit, billy if you aren't going against retards needs you to understand very well when and when not to go in if you don't want to chainfeed and you need parry mindgames and to press a bunch of buttons for a combo (this isn't hard it's just more than what mina does)
drifter needs insane roaming and to actually communicate his trailing abikity for max potential, he actually has a powerful chase that is a skillshot too
and victor needs you to manage risks from self damage a lot and you need to know how to build and macro to actually become the unkillable hold W monkey at the end
mina literally plays like you are playing a hero shooter instead of a moba with how free and dominant she is early, she's like the designated "for overwatch monkeys" hero, you don't have to work for anything you'll do well every game for the first 10-20 minutes no matter what and after that you are still really annoying and slippery
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>spend ages eating shit as wraith
>gets so bad I'm put into seeker lobbies
>win one (1) game
>ritualist 5 lobby immediately after
sure okay it's fine
whatever I'm glad I'm finally starting to get better
playing Wraith has essentially forced me to stop being such a massive pussy and learn when to pick fights with people
it's also genuinely funny when you see somebody you can't really pick a fight with but you run at them and throw your skills and they shit themselves and run away
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>>557158339
unfortunately the soul count can even out but you still have a feeding retard that doesnt know how to play the game, id rather just go next
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>>557154972
The people who main him are 70% carried shitters who got rugpulled. He's still very strong, but you need an IQ above that of a rhesus macaque.
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I've been playing mostly supports and tanks over the years and want to experience some killing for once. Can you recommend me some beginner friendly attacker characters?
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>>557158312
Impressive, very nice.
Let's see Silver's winrate there.
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You know what's funny
Deadlock had individual and collective net worth graphs as well as real time globally visible ult cooldown markers and it's generally fine
But if you proposed doing the same thing to Dota everyone would shit themselves to death about how terrible it would be
I have always maintained that information transparency is a good thing and every time I'm told I'm wrong
It's nice to see my opinions being validated by the frog himself
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>>557158526
Shiv, build full green & purple and press 4 to execute
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>>557158526
vyper feel great for my newfag ass
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i love how grave's gun requires you to be in walker stomp range to shoot the walker
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>>557158165
Yesterday I was playing against a Grey/Yamato lane. I was playing Silver. The Yamato raped my ass. Like, really hard. After the lane ended I was like 0-7-1. I'm talking, 7-8 minutes. After that I hit the jungle for a while, buy Spirit resists. I saw a teamfight, I became the wulf. Then the team vanished. After that we started to win. The Yamato became a non issue.
At times even if you, or someone else does shit at a lane, you can still win. You just have to play smartly and with your team. And pick the urns. That's also important.
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>>557158331
Not her fault that Valve has tranny devs
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>>557158331
>worst gun by far
That's Calico's pebble-thrower. The problem with shotguns is that they can't give them satisfying damage because they would become powerhouses for people that can aim. I honestly would've preferred them buffing the damage instead of speed.
>unsatisfying human mode abilities
1 and 2 are objectively fun.
>unreliable ult
Yeah, it is pretty restricting.
>below-average laning
Maybe, but not much.
>loser story
Lycanthropy is a curse for a reason, babby boy.
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>>557158752
I feel like Yamato falls off super hard after early-midgame, her lane is possibly her strongest phase.
She's kinda just there
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>>557158869
>I honestly would've preferred them buffing the damage instead of speed
They needed to buff her fire rate otherwise you could just deny everything from Silver, even now it's a very tight window for her to confirm souls.
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There is a 50/50 chance that your Mina teammate is either a mentally ill egirl who got groomed in discord during 2017 or a morbidly obese man in his late 40's
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I kind of wish Silver's wolf form was more situational and less Just Plain Good
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>>557153258
do a 51%
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I love playing graves so I get kills even when I'm on other side of the map
and I can't aim
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>>557158883
I agree. The Yamato on that game kept bashing her head against our team, going 1v2/3. Wasting her ult and runing away. At that point Yamato works better as an initiator or tank. Not someone that can go 1v2/3.
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>>557158331
>Her shotgun's sound effect are orgasmic
>Tickles people
>Slow rate of fire
I was promised pre nerf mw2 akimbo 1887's dumb dog
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>get a game with Celeste on my team
>according to their name they're a vtuber named lilith
you can't make this shit up
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>>557159015
hot
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>>557159075
it is her ult
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How do hero interactions even trigger? Don't think i've ever heard one in-game but i see them fucking everywhere on TikTok
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man I'm just not gonna queue until they nerf celeste
utterly unfun to play against at every stage of the game
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>>557159562
they are mostly match start lines if you are on the same lane
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What are the odds that Apollo turns out to be the most broken hero of all
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>>557159886
he's gonna be broken but have a shit winrate because shitters can't stop feeding on him
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How broken would a deflect skill be in this game?
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They seriously need to get rid of the retarded "infinite ammo on slide" mechanic. I know it's intended currently but all the actual gameplay around it (mainly spamming slide while fighting objectives) feels like some sort of bug abuse
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>>557159886
Not impossible, right now it feels like the new heroes have been meh
>Venator is decent
>Rem is good but not OP
>Silver is dogshit
>Graves is unfair to play against but squishy enough for a skilled player to kill
>Celeste is the only one that can be considered OP
We need a really busted hero to fill out the roster and cause immense seethe
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>>557160057
Literally less of "bug abuse" than air strafing or edge gliding
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>>557159886
he's a movement champ he would be impossible to balance for icefraud to begin with
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>>557160057
vyper sisters....
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>>557160136
It just looks and sounds retarded compared to all the other movetechs
>>557160274
She alone should have it
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>>557160136
Are you retarded or just pretending to not understand his point?
He's saying it's janky and feels unintended, not that it IS unintended.
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>>557160365
It literally feels less jank than letting go of forward moving you forward better
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>>557160057
they need to get rid of all movement "tech" and make the game actually tactical instead of cringe bing bing wahoo jumping around like a fucking retard game
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>>557155062
>>557155146
>>557158437
>he isn't weak, he's very strong
nothing about him is strong, he had a high pickrate and a pretty stable winrate that only got better the further up you looked in ranks, until his big nerfs
contrast that to now where he sits comfortably at bottom ~10 at every rank, at eternus he suddenly plummets to the worst winrate in the game. he doesn't even have pro representation, whereas other heroes you often see in the bottom tiers like mirage and paradox get picked a ton in comp

m1gger builds this patch are very one dimensional but they don't work that well with infernus and 4.8k investment makes it really easy for any character to slot in debuff remover for their green spike, anything he can do is done better by anyone else
i feel like you guys have such a hateboner for the hero that you choose to believe "he's still good, they were just carried by him being op" because it makes his mains look even worse, just because you had to endure him being an obnoxious negroid character for a year straight
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can't wait to start banning rem, who thought it's a good idea to add small rat with small rat hitbox to shooter game
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Infernus is still f u n if you build him full purple + green. You can enjoy running around teamfights like a down syndrome child and splashing cute female heroes on the enemy team with your sticky goo. When they turn down your advances you recite the Shahadah and detonate yourself in a crowd

Total M1gger death, there isn't a single enjoyable M1gger hero in the game who can't be made even more enjoyable by going purple
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>>557160484
>Play other shooters
>Movement gets shunned and shitters cry at the devs to cut off everyone's legs, tell everyone who likes movement to go back to games that have a focus on movement
>Play deadlock
>The same shitters who were telling me this before are now here, crying for the movement to be removed from the movement game
Hey man there are other games for that you can fuck off to
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>[Street Brawl] Calico: Return to Shadows cooldown reduced from 90s to 60s
why? genuinely i do not understand it. why not buff cat form instead of giving her what becomes a 25s cd eshift?
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>>557160484
Go play League or something, retard. The verticality is why this thing works and other mobas don't.
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>neither celest or rem have the leaked tether ability that makes enemies share damage
Boho is still alive
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>>557160823
>>557160750
they've already been slowly reducing the gay movement, deal with it

not my problem you wasted 30 hours of your life practicing dumb shit in practice mode
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>>557160507
Yeah alright he's overnerfed just like Kelvin. But my hatred of infernus players makes me not really care and hope Haze gets the same treatment.
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flopping tranny deadcock
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>>557160484
overwatch just got updated, sounds like your kind of game.
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I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER UNLOCK APOLLO ALREADY
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>>557160931
based
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>Graves is busted
>Rem is stupid
>Venator 1shot kill ults are terrible
>Silvers wolf needs nerf
he he ha ha, no, fuck celeste delete this bitch now.
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>>557160953
OW has movement tech it's just restricted by kit and isn't innate.
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>>557160953
OW has movetech too though, just not as much. If anon wants a game where there's no manipulation/abuse of the game engine and mechanics to squeeze out extra movement he should go play chess
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the worst part of silver is that you either have to melee or rely on your teammate to last hit because her shotty is too slow
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>designated fuckup lane
>Graves with no extra stamina items and gun Celeste at 6 deaths each
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>>557161028
Low tier IQ?
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>>557160867
>they've already been slowly reducing the gay movement
they literally buffed tech movement and nerfed braindead hold W movement though
also they literally just released celeste which is like a wet dream for movement tech enjoyers because she has better gravity, air control and 4 stam
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>>557161028
Venator seriously needs to have his power budget taken out of his ult and shifted to the rest of his kit

Remember during the first hour of his release people were saying "Valve added a character with access to PURE damage, this guy is going to shine against resiststacking tanks for sure!" and then it turned out he's an ult bot for nuking squishies from a mile away
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>>557158869
Calico's gun fucks if you put some items on it though.
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>>557161075
Silver has more problems than that but yea that's a pretty big one
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>They already are reducing the movement
>As they literally just released Venator who has unique movement tech with his 2, and Celeste who can air strafe and bhop around the map
Lol
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>play nothing but hero brawl since my duo is away
>starting to fucking hate hero brawl



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