Furtim est Optio EditionUpdate 11.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/296-patch-notes-11-0PTS Update 12.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/339-pts-patch-notes-12-0>January Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/343-january-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNBPrevious on the battle-barge: >>556108873
First for Black Templars!
>>557184593>"...I set you free, my beloved, my best, son,"> "Do now what you were made to do.">"Hurt them."
>>557183865???They are brought up so infrequently I often forget they even exist. I say this as someone who hates their colour scheme; Stop being a faggot.
>>557184996he's beginning to lose it, leave him be anon.
Got a couple questions about kitting up my dudes, some fluff, some gameplay. But what's the best stuff for vanguard? Got it to p4l25 a week or so ago and despite my best attempts at using it the regular ass bolt carbine feels like trying to gun down heads with an airsoft gun whereas the occulus feels fantastic with it having laser accuracy on the scope but every source I've seen shits on the occulus despite it having that sweet sweet 2x headshot multiplier. The wrapped instigator feels like a much better version of the regular bolt carbine so I just use that in its place with a melta rifle build as the third slot but I haven't been playing that long to know what's actually good and what just feels like it is.Second, do Blood Angel Incursors paint the helmet yellow since they're technically assault or do they just go with red and larp assault? Trying to source accurate heraldry info has been fun but also bullshit because I'm working off of 1d6chan and goonhammer and I don't have nearly enough time or books to figure out what's real or not.I'll post dudes later once/if I get this right.
>>557186149>But what's the best stuff for vanguard?Full auto ammo version bolt carbine (Max out on headshot damage + reload upon gunstrike)Heroic instigator (same with the bolt carbine)Ammo version Melta rifle (straightforward and pick the damage increase and range increase over rate of fire ones)Always equip the Extremis heal save for modifiers like this week's hard weekly where contested healing is disabled; always equip the autoexecute Grappling Hook perk at 33% enemy health for free armourFor prestige perks pick the increased damage at <10m, Fortitude, Launch Restoration and the last one could be getting armour upon 7 quick kills or the do not lose control from Heavy hits upon Gunstrike; every other skill is trashChainsword and Power axe are both great
>>557186149I use Tip of the Spear for Vanguard so if I grapple in on a warrior with a devourer, I can just dump headshots on it with the occulus/wrapped instigator and remove it from the equation. The problem is when there's multiple in close proximity.I guess it comes down to>I'm using a block weapon and don't like how slow it is to deal with mobs before adrenaline surgeThen you could afford to go melta gun unless you're playing nids and feel like you need to contribute to thrope killing.
>>557186149There are two real ways to build vanguard; Zone of Impact + Tactical Prowess with extremis execute healing (top build) or a fast cooldown single target divekick (bottom build). Green arrows indicate flex options, pick the one that works the best for you. The ones I have actively selected are the ones I prefer. Zone of impact and tactical prowess can sometimes be really hard to set up with other players and is even harder if they are good, which is why I mostly run the bottom build.I'll post weapons next.
>>557186149>bolt carbineIt works great if you get into the grapnel -> magdump into head -> execute loop. Occulus works fine if you're not constantly in melee rangeAs for the helmet color just cross reference actual minis and look up (chapter) heraldry, 1d4chan has been shit for years>TacticalBolters would make him Battleline which would give him a Red helmet, Plasma/Flamer/Melta make him Fire Support which would give him a Blue helmet>Vanguard Reivers and Incursors get Yellow helmets>AssaultTechnically a "Jump pack intercessor" and as such gets a Yellow helmet>BulwarkTechnically a Bladeguard Veteran and as such gets a Gold helmet>Sniper>HeavyBoth get a blue helmet due to being Fire Support
>>557186149Forgot to mention prestige perks are the same on any build.For weapons in image;Heroic InstigatorCarbineOcculusMeltaHeroic instigator is probably his best weapon because it can both do damage and set up for zone of impact pretty easily. Normal carbine is still good for chaos because they have tiny heads that the instigator has trouble hitting because of its spread. Regular carbine also has really strong CHP regen. Ammo marksman carbine is getting a buff in the next patch so it might not be a bad pick in competition with heroic instigator. Occulus fell off because its bad ammo economy and mediocre damage, still usable for setting up zone of impact.I find melta to be his least useful weapon due to its low damage and bad ammo economy. Paradoxically its probably his best weapon in siege because of its infinite cleave. I don't really use it at all.For secondaries your only real option is heavy bolt pistol, ammo variant, full top path and one ammo perk. Normal bolt pistol isnt bad now but heavy bolt pistol has cleave which is typically more useful. Inferno pistol is getting a buff to its gunstrike damage next patch that makes it not bad, but probably not worth taking over HBP. And neovolkite pistol is just terrible.Melee next.
>>557186149>>557187325>>557189706Block ChainswordBlock AxeAxe is better, a single riposte will often incap a majoris. With two block charges you will incap every extremis in one hit with some follow up damage. Only downside is its normal combo damage blows. Another thing to note is all balanced weapons are getting a pretty big damage buff in the next patch so they might be worth using over block.
techmarine and vanguard should get auxilary reload as prestigeperk & it should trigger on kill instead of execute/"melee kill"
>>557188740>>557188740>Bolters and flamers make Tac BattlelineShit. I got him looking like an Assault Intercessor since I lean into the chainsword a lot but that's an easy fix.>Vanguard Reiver+Incursor is yellow, Infiltrator presumably redAlright so that's more or less correct but given I use the execute loop build I'll probably just swap to the Infiltrator drip and go from there.>Heavy is blueMakes sense.Got my Assault as a dripped up Assault Intercessor Pfist Sergeant but that one's easy. I appreciate the insight.
>>557187325>>557189706>>557189706Appreciate the insight. I'll have to take a longer look at these builds once I get home. But my current setups are...Headshot Occulus(The ammo econ IS shit but the ttk/execute on Rubrics is very funny so I have a soft spot for it), Inferno Pistol, Block Chainsword.Heroic Instigator, HHPB, Balance Axe for giga gunstrikes(Yes the ammo economy is shit here too.)And then Melta, Volkite, Block Knife. The Volkite feels like a boss killer but the better I get the better adrenalone surge punishes get for that. Might change this to a regular bolt carbine build if I can stomach the ammo version's spread.Again, I'll post my setups and compare once I stop waging but using bolt weapons without headshot damage just feels like pissing into the wind.I got a soft spot for meltas and the inferno pistol because they seem to have fantastic CHP recovery and the BA drip is fun.Either way, I'll take a longer look once I'm out. Appreciate the time and insight anon.
>>557195078No problem. If you have any questions just ask. I probably missed something.
>>557189706i absolutely hate how vanguard plays right now. the execute chain build is "well rounded", a well oiled machine in theory, but you get fucked over so hard by having teammates that "steal" executionsthe kill-majoris-with-ranged-weapon-and-then-Q build is asinine and strictly works against the 5% heal on majorisexecute perk you pick with it because you dont pick the reset. its a weird mishmash of gimmicks. it works, but it feels like absolute ass.
>>557198001I personally dislike the minimum distance required for grapple
>>557199194and the wonky targeting. it happens so often that i completely change target mid activation, zooming across the stage instead of executing the extremis i was initially aiming at.
New screenshots of Space Sharks cosmetics, I dunno if they changed much since PTS, but supposedly it's been more "refined".
>>557200348Oh, and there will be no new decals associated with the pack.
>>557197920I guess, what's the theory behind the base Bolt Carbine? I see that it has the marksman and brrrt versions under the same weapon but I just have a hard time finding the niche for them. The Ammo full auto one I end up spraying half the mag into a single majoris, get ganked by another one beside me and end up locked in melee more often than not, and the marksman ones seem to have even worse ammo than the occulus with worse accuracy just because the scope makes the occulus laser accurate and for whatever reason the marksman ones just have normal zoom.
Thoughts on Red Corsairs getting their own codex?
>>557200348The armour needs more etching I feel. Also it's kind of odd to see them as Primaris when... actually hang on how *did* all the 'unknown founding' chapters get allocated Primaris lads? Did they just draw numbers out of a hat?
>>557200781It will be nice to get some Space Marine renegades, though I suppose you could have just done that with a vanilla codex.
>>557199706>in the fraction of a second I back away to grapnle execute, my teammates take it as a sign to just headshot the majoris enemy or take the kill themselves.
>>557200517Not him, but the Bolt Carbine is built around getting up close, aiming, then dumping enough of the magazine to get an execute. A while back it got a stat adjustment to where it gets 50% extra damage if you're within 10m or so, and on Sniper it's perfect for endlessly chaining perks that activate on headshot/headshot kill.
>>557200517The automatic ammo variant you get the reduce spread perks, all the headshot perks, and fire from the hip. Its a close range burst damage weapon. Its more DPS than basic melee combos. The marksman variant just sucks right now because the accuracy version has no ammo and the ammo version just doesn't do enough damage. This might change in the next patch though.
>>557200954Almost everybody has primaris nowadays. The in-universe explanation for most of the non-main-character chapters is that they were contacted by a torchbearer fleet, which were special envoys sent out to chapters that operated in contested space and brought primaris tech to them. In the case of the Space Sharks specifically though, got their primaris capability directly from the Mechanicus as part of a Grey Tithe.
>>557202727Ah okay, I guess I missed that part. I've been reading the Carcharodons series of books and been really digging the whole 'semi-exiled to the far far reaches of space' vibe they have.
>>557184845>Voicelines for using stimms, which aren't in PvPhttps://youtu.be/a5Gebw7VoKA?si=5jCuECiYeAthrJv_&t=2276I still believe
update when?
>>5572082962 weeks
March 5th. Keep your resolve Brother!
>>557208549Just enough time to build up a stack of doritos.
for how long do you get the buff that increases damage on the heroic gladius? i always attack pretty much right away after a perfect dodge and i notice fuck all damage wise
>>557220586its only for one hit
>>557222767yes, i understand. but how long do you keep the stacks, seems like they vanish instantly.
>>557224236idk like 30 seconds
wat get? I feel like the bottom three are the only real choices for Mr. Sword & Board, with two of them just turning the banner into an even bigger "whoopsie-daisy" button. the ability recharge on ranged damage block SOUNDS nice, but might be underwhelming.
>>557228168aux reload, powerful shot, and masterful defense
>>557228168Auxiliary ReloadPowerful ShotMasterful DefenseLast slot can be Overcharge, Resilience, Standard Bearer or Emboldened StandThe last 2 people underestimate bigly but its clutch when you're fighting a Terminus
>>557200348>Not a single chainaxe to be seen.Sorry loyal chuds. Gays whoreshop says they make you evil hohohoho!
>>557200781They'll be SM3's main Chaos opponent>we want to take Necron artifacts...and we don't want to pay taxes>fuck off Primarch, we still don't want to pay taxes
I ended up hoovering all the stims because, by the end, i was the only one who could actually gain anything off themGod i fucking hate rubricae the fucking scum just sit there plinking away in the distance when the whole game is built around melee
February doesn't feel too lucky, brothers
>>557236532There is no shame eating all of the stims when you're playing with randoms.Especially with a Bulwark who has died 9 times.
Couple questionsWhy is the performance for this game so all over the place? I'm on a 5080 an 14700k and i was dipping into the 20s just walking around the barge and going into the armor menusAlso can the campaign be played co-op with me and a couple of my friends or is it only some like custom character campaign instead
>>557246645ruskie optimization, update drivers and see if it fixes is best i can sayalso i'm pretty sure the campaign is coop too, yes
>>557206305It's just as likely that med stimms were planned to be usable in PvP at some point but plans changed.
what happened?
Do console players have aim assist? If yes how strong is it?Just wondering how much I should hate console snipers.
>>557257257You can only play strats for so long and the content gets stale pretty fast. Plust let's be honest, even then the majority of those couple thousand players are HC fans rather than game pass immigrants who probably turned on the game played a bit and logged off.
>>557246645The battle-barge has very weird behavior and it occasionally tanks my performance too, but it happens sparingly and lasts a second or two at worst ( I'm running a 5090 and a 9800x3d). There are two things at play here the way I see it - drivers and the CPU. The latter you got covered, it's not bad, though I heard the game favors AMD a bit more. Though it's something to verify. The former are NVIDIA's Achilles' heel these days. Generally it *is* recommended to have the latest update but with my GPU I found 580.88 is the most stable. I'd recommend you look up best drivers for your card, YT or some OC-ing forums are your safest bet.
Well, looks like Saber's got another game to work on and drain more resource to make ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap5JlQ680E8Though John Wick game sounds fun ngl
Can I wear the Salamander stuff when doing the co-op campaign or do i just get stuck as a normal space marine.
>>557257257Maybe the servers shit themselves or it was maintanence
>>557260454First movie was amusing, but sequels went full retard and were downright tiring to watch. Imo making a franchise out of this doesn't work.Game might be some stupid, simple fun tho. Would be funny if it did better than IOI bond game
>>557260854you can do neither. when doing coop campaign the host is Titus, the second player is Gadriel, the third one is Chairon.
>>557261702nta but I found this to be so annoying. I wanted to play as a nigger on my 2nd playthrough since he has that short, but nonetheless separate and unique section. And was forced into hapa marine anyway
>>557261851me too, but i didn't care about that level, just wanted to be the guy carrying the auspex.
>>557222767Pretty sure it's 1 second now, so it doesn't get wasted on a gaunt impact>>557220586Definitely shorter than the 35 second block stack. 15 seconds maybe? Not going to test it myself.
>>557260454I have Keanu fatigue. I mean he's likeable but it just feels like he's just been in too much stuff lately.
>>557257257Game was simply FOTM80% of the 200k+ playerbase bought the deluxe edition and burned themselves in the first weekBy week 2 there's a slight drop in players and it continued to hemorrhage until it stabilized to like 5k-10k players dailyPart of this was Saber's stupid and slow vatnik devs who failed to capitalize on the hype, even going as far into thinking their game will bomb
Fucken game won't let me bind the Delete key
>>557270296What are you trying to bind to it?
>>557274160Ability ideally, my schemes are right-hand arrow-key-centric
>>557186149You're almost never far enough away to where having a scope actually matters, so full auto bolt carbine is king. Instigator and occulus are fine for enclosed terminus enemies like the hive tyrant, but there's no reason to use it over the bolt carbine for 90% of the mission. Melta rifle is good too, but only in missions where you have a dedicated range class for terminus enemies. Melta is for mobs of things, not single targets.
>>557274456I’m trying to play keyboard and mouse in co-op and I got myself a mouse with extra buttons on it that I map my abilities/block to.
what's the new weekly? we're back in chaos town iirc?
>>557277213reliquary, no contested HP, no mortal wounds but max hp lost on down, last guy standing gets a bonus
>>557277364thx
>>557276972I got block on mouse 4 and push to talk on mouse 5, this game really doesn't have a lot of stuff to bind compared to let's say elite dangerous where even my numpad is full of stuff.
>When you play full retard bulwark spamming phase swords power rakes all map during your daily vortex stratagem and somehow do more ranged damage than the sniper
>>557281746I find a lot of Snipers feel the need to save their sniper shots for exclusively Extremis and Terminus enemies and rarely if ever bother using them on Majoris.
>>557282543The heroic BSR needs the ammo perk to work again so that Snipers don't spend 90% of the time lining up shots
tfw 2 weeks without doing weeklies.... bros techmarine when?
After 80 hours i've never completed a Hard Stratagem.
>>557293039after 684 hours neither have I.come to think about it, i only completed the new absolute once, and it was with an anon and a bot.
>>557293039In my 400 and more hours of play I haven't bothered to play it either. Waste of time. Just like stratagems overall.
I have completed all Hard Stratagems to date.
>>557295805What would've been better is if they had made the mode exclusive to doling out new subset of currency (a retarded split in the playerbase btw) but make some leaderboards type of shit. Or just make the stratagems relegated to private lobbies only since too many underleveled people play it. I stopped hoping that Saber will ever make that mode level-locked. But yeah, I'd much rather see a robust expansion of Siege than this let's-keep-our-MAU-numbers-relatively-high mode.
>>557297951You talk of a retarded split in the playerbase and the next sentence you basically propose to make stratagems for private lobbies only.
>>557298180Yeah, I did. But I should add private lobby wouldn't give out doritos. Only, maybe, some cosmetic rewards. That's it. I guess retardedness of that mode and its entire conception rubbed off on me.
>>557298180That could work as a palette cleanser from playing pubs and its not like people don't play in private sessions but we stil get matchmaking>inb4 getting matched with a consolefag
>>557297951>a robust expansion of SiegeI am saddened that this is just a dead mode now. We all had such high hopes before it released.....
>>557228168i have never needed aux reload. i have noticed some benefit with emboldened stand
>takes 10 minutes to load missions when a vatnik joins the party>despite playing with 200-250 ping they have a massive advantage since all the perfect parry timings are affected by the lag, so you basically have 3 times as big a window as anyone elseShit like this is so tiresome
Hail /wall/ anon.I would like to submit my marines for the wall.First is my Storm Warden Lieutenant, Tactical.
>>557305757Second is my Storm Warden Tempest BladeI know the blue is off but the shade I need is not available.
>>557305757@ him, do you really think he reads through all the posts in case someone posts a new screenshot?
>>557305757Going on the advice of another anon - my third and last submission. My Death Company Lamenter.
>>557306015Yes, and he prob does does ctrl+f and types 'wall'.I have made submissions before and the next day he has responded.
This is our next homehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIrDDy_UEg
>>557297672my guy get a job
>>557305757>>557305918>>557306278Received. And yes, I check in on the thread for that eventuality or to discuss something.One more disclaimer, I'll do my best to post the update over the weekend including Dudes submitted till now.
>>557306548>he thinks people play a 40k horde shooter for horde shooting, not 40king
>>557306419I posted my dude without even mentioning or knowing of the wall and I ended up on it.
>>557309192I meant to say I've beaten every weekly hard, I don't bother with dailies.The game isn't that hard.
>>557309192Not him, but I have done half of all of them. I am away for 2 weeks at a time then come home and the alternative is to drink.
>>557312605hard strats are insanely difficult, with the exceptions of some modifiers. also space marine 2 is a game thats luck dependant to solo. everyone who pretends otherwise is exactly doing that: pretending
>>557316591The guys point stands. RNG is not difficulty.The game, without some bullshit roll of the dice is not hard.
>>557316591>insanely difficultI'd describe around 3-4 of them as pretty fucking difficult but a majority of them are mildly more annoying than your regular Absolute run.I wouldn't describe most of them being so difficult that they aren't worth doing.
>>557316591The first one with darkness and unkillable Lictor was really hard and the Chaos one weeks later where barrels kill you instantly while you're being constantly drained of healthThere's also the Exfiltration one where you're forced to run solo and pray you don't spawn a Neurothrope
I enjoy sniper.
>>557321668Where is that helmet from?
>>557322014idk some eventit will probably be in the shop with the next patch
>>557321668I don't, 99% of them make my games harder than they would be with a bot.
>>557316591So, I will say that the melee only Inferno run a week or so back was both one of the harder missions I've done and it required some solid co-ordination to pull off, especially if you got a Neorothrope spawn. However some of these weeklies strike me as particularly stupid pranks. This week's is either ball bustingly hard to do with a full stack or Chaos's ball buster gauntlet that you're forced to complete because the Bot won't let either of you die. I can't even say this week's was fun. It's just a miserable experience from the moment you get downed the first time to the end.
>>557328590msot of the strategems are miserable experiences>teammates dying kills you lmaoso fucking fun
Okay is it me or are the hitboxes a little fucky when you're on an incline?
>>557184221Does anyone know what redacted will be
>>557336940Custodes cosmetics pack.
>>557336940Grey Knight cosmetics pack.
Love these assholes who decide to just park their lazy ass a mile away at the checkpoint spamming T on it because they just so happened to be on the other side of the Extremis rape wall when it spawned in so surely everyone can just dawdle in.
>>557337472Can't relate I only play Lethal
>get put into a lobby with double xbox niggers for the if you die you stay dead daily>both of them die halfway through the mission because they are incapable of reading the part of needing to stay near each other to regain health/armor>neither of them leave despite being completely cut out of the game and just taking up a slot nowit's my own fault for staying when I saw them.
>High health players keep executing the Extremis enemies denying my barely-hanging-on-ass health regen.I know it's all spur of the moment but I wish randoms had just a little more awareness.
>>557340438the whole system being execution based is terrible gamedesign for a coop game
>>557343319It's not that bad as long as everyone has a little bit of situational awareness, or at the very least doesn't take executions if they don't need to.
>>557343319Saber is not a good designer by any metric.
I have black templar player fatigue.
>nigger leech steals 2 stims>gets stunlocked and dies>rage quitsI love how these slav dog devs haven't fixed the recent players so I can't block this swine.
>>557336940Blood Ravens to hype Dawn of war 4.
>>557336940no, that's why it says redacted.
>>557340438Vanguard feels shit to play.>Heal on extremis? >Retard a 100% hp will mash E while there is another guy next to him with 50%hp>Grapple wombo combo? They spam E so you can't do it, not to mention the grapple targetting is wonky>Heal on majoris? Same shit, spam EAnd then on top of that you have the annoying vanguard hood nigger voice. Definitely the class that I dislike playing the most and it's all because of other players, with bots it's great.
>>557376607meanwhile my experience with leveling up sniper>set up THREE ranged warriors for execution in front of my melee battle "brothers">turn around to melee a swarm of gaunts>by the time i'm done something is shooting at me from off screen>all three warriors are alive and wellit's a doggy dog world anon. unless I know you, I will be spamming E every time I can because the average person playing this game is fucking retarded.
How do you feel about low levels in your games?
>>557384723He's yet another proof that you don't need to be creative and you can make less than low effort content (i.e. reading other people's posts) to be somewhat popular.To your question: absolute and hard strats should be level/prestige locked regardless of what Saber morons claim about paragons being optional.
>>557384723In Absolute and Hard siege/stratagem they should fuck offAbsolute and Hard should have a max prestige level lock including a weapon filter that bars newly maxed players from running non-Relic weaponsGreen highlight on class icon on the top right = everyone is good to goYellow highlight on class icon on the top right = Guy meets the level and prestige requirements but he's running a non-Relic weapon in either slot and should fuck off back to the armoury to change itRed highlight on class icon on the top right = same class, low level, non-max prestige, no Relic weapon equipped
>>557384723This guy is even more egregious than FTG when it comes to sloptent. Literally just reads fucking forum posts.
>>557384723How do you feel about clickbait thumbnails in your goyslop ludofeed?
>>557384723Normal stratagems? Don't care I'll carry it anyway.Hard strats? I'm not good enough (yet) to solo carry them depending on the modifiers so they should be prestige 4 lvl 25 with relic tier weapons. There will be prestige 4/25 fully kitted who will suck anyway, everyone can have a bad day but it will definitely limit the lvl 1 assault who ground pounds only to die joining hard strats.
>playing a level 10 difficulty run to grind xp in some weapons I dont use>a lvl 25 4th prestige dude joins>level becomes significantly harderIs there a difficulty modifier that changes based on who joins the game?
>>557393362no
>>557394132yes
>>557393362it dependsand it's actually a non-meme answer. the difficulty is dynamic and can be changed in response to player actions by the ai director
Wow today's stratagems suck ass.
>>557397731decap and exfil are pretty ok. but i did them with capable randoms.
i´m really looking forward to the next patch. the balanced buff looks pretty juicy & the fencing(block) heroic knife on tactical will be great. they also fixed the bug that charged attacks like powerwhirl and aftershock do not recover CHP, right?
New to the Thunder Hammer, what exactly is the advantage of block over finesse, all it does is stop my opponent for a second before they just throw another attack my way until I'm dead, with finesse I can at least gun strike them.
>>557400341after you block two attacks in a row you get a good point to spend on an extra spicy attack with aoe stagger. With thammer I usually just do a light attack, then a charged one (aka known as FUCK YOU NOW MY TURN)>before they just throw another attack haha fuck how i wish that was actually true
>>557400781I just get ganged up on and clobbered, I wish there was an actual test room for trying out wargear and perks.
>>557400923I'm afraid that's because you swing around like a retard. If you stop for a second you will realize that the enemies* generally don't attack you until you start attacking them. It's especially excruciating with block weapons because you want them to attack you to get that damage bonus and they just keep circling around you.* minoris and majoris
>>557401151The trick is to shoot 1-2 times at them and it resets their aggression.
>>557401151Okay I see. Though I'm still having trouble with swarms of smaller enemies.
>>557400341thunder hammer is (on live) best with block, by far. when the next patch hits there is a argument to be made for balanced (2x groundslam incaps all majoris with the buff to balance stats + the speed it has over block makes it easier to pull off)the 2 things that are great about the thammer:its the best groundpound weapon for assault, because it has near infinite cleave and a larger radius. the base damage template of groundpound is the same for all melee weapons, but it gets increased by %meleedamage. this makes for example powersword have the most damage on singletargets because it has tons of %increased damage. the hammer overall does way more damage because it simply hits everything, so its also really easy to refill groundpound charges on it. adrenaline surge from block also applies to groundpound, making it possible to nuke extremis like zoans out of the air if they dont hover way above you.the other big draw is the aftershock. its a charged attack so its completely unaffected by the weapons speed (this is also a reason why block = good and fencing = trash)if you have adrenaline surge stacks from your blockhammer they will apply their damagebuff for the entire duration of the aftershock, even the second hit. so if you are surrounded your panic action usually boils down to blocking 2 attacks and then doing a uncharged aftershock for respectable aoe damage and more importantly space. you charge it if you have the time for it. there is rarely an opening for doublegroundpond, but its also very powerfull.afaik running attack -> groundpound wont benefit from adrenaline surge stacks. the duration will run out before the groundpound hits, so aftershock is usually your only option to use adrenaline surge stacks.you can´t dodge out of aftershock, you will need to learn blockcanceling out of aftershock so you can dodge. if you don´t do this you WILL eat sniper shots and die.
>>557405023and another tip: try to keep 1 groundpound charge up for emergencies, so you can retreat in the air and quickly slam into the biggest meatpile to regain CHP after you lost a chunk.right now the hammer is terrible for contesting HP, because its slow and aftershock does not restore ANY CHP. this is a bug, it even has a perk that says that CHP gained with aftershock gets increased by 100%. the next patch hopefully will fix this.
>>557405023>>557405346Thanks, I'm running it on Bulwark but I'll try it with the Assault again.
>Another episode of a sniper who keeps dying while hogging all the medkits on fucking substantial of all things while I'm just trying to level some low tier weaponsWhy can't they just stick to minimal or average? I think I'm gonna dodge every game where I see a sniper who isn't prestige 4 now, just a waste of time.
>>557406090If it's down in substantial, why does it matter you have useless teammates? So as long as your melee weapon is maxed then it shouldn't be too much of a big deal having useless teammates.
>>557409794It's a matter of principle, if you behave like this you are at the very least spiritually a brownoid.
>>557411260I mean sure, but bad players sticking to substantial seems proper to me. I'd let fucking anyone play and do basically whatever they want for anything below Lethal.
>>557411792I know Anon, I know. I can't help being annoyed at some things that in the end aren't that important while I couldn't care less about actual important things, I can't help it. When that human waste goes down for the 6th time and starts whining in the microphone "what the fuck abloobloo I got stunlocked abloobloo" and then he bitches that you aren't rezzing him because you are busy actually dealing with a wave it just triggers me.
Chances of a community blog released in the next week?
>>5574132480update is on the 24th
enough
>>557414485>solo with bots: the switch
>>557416784correct
>>557384723It depends heavily on the difficulty. Substantial and below? Literally who gives a shit. Lethal, Absolute, Hard Stratagems/Siege? They and their family need to be hung, drawn, and quartered
>>557414485I feel you, lvl 5 vanguard with a green occulus bolt carbine btw.
What are the odds we will get "neutral" cosmetics, like salamander's power pack with the brazier or even some chests receiving a gravis variant?
100%. we have been getting getting new, unteased armor pieces in the dorito shop every update.
>>557322014The ass-busting vortex beast event.
>>557416784I've rarely had issues finding players without crossplay, and even the times it has been an issue it's clearly been some matchmaking bug that finds you players as soon as the attempt is over
>>557421997Maybe you play absolute only?
>>557421835I have killed it on Absolute and don't have the helmet.
>>557421223Well, we will get a twitch drop that'll give a chest piece, another purple recolor (dunno what for) and some currency.
>>557405667>THammer Bulwark
>>557184221//// INCOMING TRANSMISSION ////>Imperial Administratum has granted access to records of all Astartes operating in Decidious System, CODENAME: ADEPTUS RETARDES>Dude Wall status: ACTIVE. >All Astartes present in Decidious System accounted for.>All First Founding Chapters accounted for.>All Brothers are to upload a FULL SCREENSHOT of their Dude and post their CHAPTER.Good day and/or evening, Brothers! It has been some time since the last update, but I am glad I can finally present you with the latest Dude Wall and what is new in this version:- All submissions have been added to both versions of the Wall (that includes the following Dudes: IH#10, Lamenter #11, Exorcist and Storm Wardens);- Angels of Vengeance Dude has been previously incorrectly assigned to Blood Angels successors, but this has been corrected and he is back with his Brothers;- Lamenter Dude #9 (Brother Joshua) has been given a name banner that was previously missing;- Space Wolves' chapter frame has been updated.This update took longer than I planned, my apologies Brothers. But it's fantastic I could bring it to you this week and with some graphic updates as well. It seems almost all First Founding have been refreshed, all but Imperial Fists. I'll give them another go later on. Next up are successors and Unknown Founding chapters - there's a lot to look forward to.In the meantime, thank you for all your submissions and should you find yourself having a Dude you'd like to post, don't hesitate.Enjoy the latest iteration of the Dude Wall, Brothers!Signing off,Wall Anon=FYI=>**Ultra high quality version of the Dude Wall is available on the website**>**For more comprehensive info on submissions please refer to: https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/ **Glory to the Imperium!//// END TRANSMISSION ////
Someone tell the teacher that the Trygon is being bullied
>>557438042Snitches get stiches. Just you wait Leandros.
I just hit lv 25 and can prestige.Am I supposed to max out all my other equipment before prestige?
>>557443934>Am I supposed to max out all my other equipment before prestige?It would very smart of you to do so because weapon levels remain as they are while your perks get reset when you prestige. Having maxed out weapons make subsequent runs nearly trivial.
>>557443934Yes always run prestigeTo not waste your time grinding even more just Google which perks to choose, only the Bulwark will make you choose since it has a lot of good ones and the rest are easy straightforward picksOnce you max prestige just hop on normal siege mode and level up your guns in there and quit on wave 5, rinse and repeat
Say something nice about him bros.
>>557435908Based Wall Anon.
>>557435908Based
>>557443934Yeah, max at least one weapon in every slot for the class before prestiging so it's way easier to re-level.
Redpill me on your underhyped favorite chapter.
>>557452187Looks good with a helmet on.
>>557463980>Warcry is, to outsiders, an ominous unintelligible chanting in various languages>Aesthetic leans properly into the occult; chains, torches, robes, incense, and an abundance of purity seals for protection>Created in part by the Inquisition during the Dark Founding, so get a free pass for all the heretical shit they do>Knowledge of their founding chapter is kept secret to all except veterans and the Ordo Malleus to prevent the Imperial Fists being shamed by association>One of the few legions to have more than ten companies, not because they seek to break rules or tradition, but because their initiation ritual is so brutal that they need a massive reserve of scouts, as most do not survive>Initiation into a true battle brother is for a neophyte to be chained and bound, surrounded on all flanks by bolters and librarians, and let a demon intentionally possess them>You either defeat it with the purity of your spirit and strength of your mind while another brother excises the demon, or become a broken mumbling husk forever locked up to keep that demon in check--or be turned to paste via gunfire and psychic energy>As a result, even the freshest of Exorcist astartes are some of the strongest warriors against Chaos, rivalling even the likes of the Gray Knights, to the point that daemons recoil in horror the moment they try to look into their soulsNobody talks about these guys, they're one of the more fleshed out successor chapters yet you'd think they had a one paragraph wiki with how barren the interest is in them. I will stan these dudes relentlessly so awareness of them grows.
>>557466336Well, you convinced me, anon.Share your your Exorcist colors and I might try and make my own later.
>>557469842Saber completely botched the colors. I posted my dude last thread, so here he is again to give you an idea. IMO Baal Red from the Blood Angels DLC is the most accurate shade for their primary color, then it's your preferred gold for the aquila (I use Valdor Gold), otherwise they follow the Codex to a T. Shoulder trim relates to company, squad and combat role on the right shoulder, white helmets for veterans etc.It's a shame there's no real occult looking scribbles I can plaster on the knees to truly finish the look off.
>>557471436>>557469842There's a bit of a color mismatch between official art and the Codex, but I definitely prefer the darker reds people use in their artwork. I have no idea why Saber made them peach orange, maybe it's the fucked up shoulder shade here? Because the astartes examples are blatantly the same shade of red as the Blood Ravens. All wikis and resources also state they're red.
>>557469842And a final example to show I'm not going crazy over my color choice.
>>557471436Damn, you're not kidding about those colors. >>557472474That looks a bit better but I was really expecting more orange.
>>557473450Yeah they're pretty inconsistent in how "orange" they are. But it definitely leans more into a reddy orange over being actual orange.
>>557475121Should just settle on a shade of blood orange
>>557466336I don’t think GW likes their current lore, and they’re not sure what to do with them
>>557438042why didn't the fourth melta stun him? was it lag or is there a hardcoded limit?
>>557484178My pet theory is that the melta has to either be directly in front or directly behind it to get the prone animation.
man, this bossfight is so fun but the mission is a fucking slog.
>Last update to the game was on Thanksgiving week 11/25
>>557487453After playing obeseshark warhammer games even Saber doesn't feel bad after all. 2 years and all they released was 1 super small map and two PAID classes (while having a rotating cosmetic cash shop) which were uninteresting.
>>557487716to be fair they released like 5 new maps, not 1
>>557483992Oaths of Damnation was a good novel I read last year that I'd recommend if you haven't already read it.
>>557466336My two Dudes are Exorcists. They are my second favorite Chapter behind Grey Knights. I'm just a sucker for an Imperial forces whose entire purpose is to mess up chaos in every conceivable way. I agree that they're done a disservice by Gee Dubs much like a lot of other chapters.
>>557463980vorpal swords>warpstorm engulfs homeworld>mutants and heretics increase>ecclisiarch deems the chapter icky and corrupted, sends them into the eye of terror to die>vanish for centuries>come back, fucked up god knows how many demon worlds>say the ecclisiarch that sent them to die is actually a heretic>burn all of his shit & shoot him into spacei just liked the colours but they are actually pretty based
if you disable bots does the close proximity stuff just fuck you over?
I NEED TECHMARINE NOW
>>557495090Are you counting the mortiis trials in that?
>>557506902no, you have the 2 carnival maps, moebian steel, train, and trenches
>>557498838>affected by mutagenic and corrupting warpstorm>spends hundreds of years in the most mutagenic and corrupting environment in existence>attack the ecclesiarchyYeah, totally not corrupted.
>>557507808yes they are fine. i´ll shoot you into orbit if you claim otherwise.
>>557466336For me? Their colour pallete sucks.
>>557508785>Blood red with company color trim and a black backpackIt's one of the best, the problem is the shade of red changes in the artwork depending on the tilt of the moon.
>>557508785>red and black and white sucks.well, that makes up 50% colorschemes of anything in the world
>>557463980Storm Wardens>40k pre-saxon invasion Brits i.e Scottish/Irish Celts, Picts and Welsh.>Descended from one of the traitor primarchs>No one knows who and the records were destroyed>They guard the Halo Stars and focus on only-the-Emperor-knows-what horrific warp shit happens there.>They got involved in fighting off an Enslaver incursion>Something catastrophic happened>Entire 1st company, chapter master and a whole bunch of the chapter are locked away permanently in stasis vaults within their monastery due to lingering enslaver corruption>They are guarded by their dreadnoughts (Who stay awake to do so) forever who took a vow of silence.>They wear tartan pattern cloth over their armour and favour big two handed power swords>Their colour scheme is really appealing to me and one of the few that have a metallic trim that is not gold or bronze. Silver and blue just looks good.That is about it beyond the usual marine wank, I just like their aesthetic and their lore is not abysmal like some others.
>>557509951Acheran was supposed to end up here but was slotted with the Ultrasmurfs
>>557508938>>557509904I have only seen them with the peach orange or dull orange in artwork.I really like >>557472474However I would also point out that they pretty much looks like traitor Word bearers, just missing obvious corruption. Scrawl some random text on their armour and I doubt most people would not think the same.I like WE colour scheme fyi. Its just very close to each other.
>>557509951Also their chapter iconography is not in the game which annoys me. They are not THAT obscure ffs.
I have filled all 4 slots of the existing classes with chapters I want sans one sniper slot for RG and one assault for space sharks.For Techmarine I will make the obvious first one be IH but I have no idea what other chapters for the other 3 slots.
>>557510657SalamandersBlood RavensSons of Medusa
>>557510657Imperial Fists would be solid for Techmarine.
>>557510981>>>557510657>SalamandersNah their own lore implies they do not even need them even if they have them. In general though not a fan of reddits pet nogs>Blood RavensPossibly.>Sons of MedusaAlready going one IH trying not overlap in a class from the same 'legion'>>557511125Why?
>>557511223>Why
Listen kids, if you want to be carried, when I plop the banner you clear your mortal wounds, or I leave and you fail the mission before another player joins.
>>557518690>Yesterday Absolute run to level BR with the CombiMelta>Neuro at first opportunity on Inferno, go down trying to deal with the majoris wave and get picked up by the bulwark.>Neurothrope has a quarter life left, is down after we hopped into the mind bubble.>No armor.>Bulwark drops banner as I line up the next volley.>"Swapping Magazines.">Die the second the Neuro gets up and screams.I'm sorry BulwarkChad.
>>557519451well at least you tried and he heard your voiceline. in my case i picked the fucker up and checked he had a medkit before dropping the banner and he just kept standing and staring at me.
>>557518690Listen old man, I main Bulwark and exclusively play as a Black Templar. You wish you were on my level. Saber is making the Two Handed Sword for me as a personal thank you for playing their game. It will come with a Black Sword skin and I WILL play as an Emperor's Champion just like in real life.For Dorn and the Emperor!
r8 my red corsair tactical
>>557524541That helmet aint it chief
>>557524541>Looks like shit/10.You should be ashamed.
>>557524696yeah i was trying different accessories on each of the classes through the astartes mod but im thinking for tactical, less is more.
Man why the fuck are some people so fucking bad at videogames???You actively have to TRY to being a shitter who wants to get carried doing worse than a fucking bot>Its on muh gamepussStfu faggot I'm getting playtation nogs pulling the same shit as well
>>557431237I only found out about that cartoon today.
>>557524541>t.
>>557529475Snoy players are far superior to XboxniggersThe latter are irredeemable garbage I wish there's a way to just block themAt least once in a while you'll get a decent Snoyfag who won't slow down the team, all the Xboxniggers however are fucking trash who will keep dying, hoard all the stims and be in the wrong place at the wrong timeWith a new/bad PC player you can at least communicate with them or just flat out tell them they suck and should just refund the game
>>557530945sonynigger detected.
>>557530645FUCKIN KEK, might keep the accessory now, thank you
>>557520428Yeah, the rest of the run had everyone locked in and working well together. That Bulwark player even healed me twice more off my executes. It's a great feeling but I'm also certain that some folks simply do not know how to clear wounds because not only is it never ever explained in game 2/3rds of the playerbase are console locked and effectively muted. Or will be muted. Whoever's idea it was to make playstation controllers fully functioning audio suites has my eternal ire because every time I plug in my dualsense for anything I have to deactivate it as a speaker and mic or my sound shits itself and anyone on an actual console has a random chance to blast hotmic'd garbage in your ears when you join the lobby. Thank fuck for the mute function.
I came back to playing the game and I have to admit, I'm not enjoying these new chaos spawn enemies - if the rooms is just a bit too dark their dark grey bodies become one mass so I can't tell if they're about to attack or not and they keep shoving me towards the wall and fucking up my camera. Why don't most of their attacks have the blue glows? Isn't that in the game to make it more clear?Also>counter a tzangor>the animation is long enough to keep me in place for a hellbrute to do his shockwave move but not enough to give me i-frame against the damage
>hard strat weekly>heavy brings the pyrecannon vs the drakei´m going to murder someone
>>557536857>the animation is long enough to keep me in place for a hellbrute to do his shockwave move but not enough to give me i-frame against the damageyeah, thats the biggest weakness of the game.
>both retard teammates die>solo carnifex, 2 thropes, ravener, and lictor>during carnifext kill animation leave game while they are still both dead
>>557540153>the bot that spawns in your place picks them upgg, big brain move
>>557541753they were deadnot downdead dead
>>557538761Not like you can change loadout right before the drake huh? I'm laughing because the same happened to me, vanguard kept his melta even for the drake (and he did fuckall of course).
>>557542739>vanguard kept his melta even for the drake (and he did fuckall of course).I was doing my last mission for the porphyr shield event. I changed to instigator, realized that loadout had the wrong skin, and changed back to melta. I already apologized itt.
>>557542739we had vanguard and i was bulwark, because armor generation from bulwark is great to get trough the level. also only case where i really think the revive banner is top tier. we did like 1/10th of the drakes hp bar per opening, if even. we eventually lost the war of attrition. i fear that the ammo box would have been empty before the drakes HP bar anyway.
approaching 800h in this gamemy autoboltrifle is artificer tier
>>557543910i didnt level the abr at all until 2 months ago
>>557546456>just to spite us who the fuck do you think is bankrolling these games? don't blame the messenger.
>>557546456Wasn't the original MC of Turok a Native American?
>>557546456>>557548118*Checks trailer*Yes that's just a Native American, you're retarded.
>>557546456It's quite tragic that Americans don't know about tanning, no other race on this planet seems to have the same issue.
>>557463980>stationed completely beyond the borders of the Imperium in the haunted, unmapped region of the Ghoul Stars>a Raven Guard had a vision from the Emperor about an immensely powerful xenos artifact called the Shariax, led his brothers there and founded this new Chapter to watch over the Ghoul Stars to prevent the untold numbers of supernatural, horrific, unnamed xenos from reaching the Imperium>each successive Chapter Master, known as the First Spectre or Megir sits upon the Shariax (Throne of Glass) and does not step down from the throne until he dies when the throne petrifies him>from the Shariax he is able to guide the rest of the Chapter in their watch over the Ghoul Stars, read the tides of Fate, and even change the future >their Chapter Librarians die by lethal poison 3 times during their initiation and must claw themselves back from death itself to survive the process, and they witness ‘The Black River’ while dead>they believe in a prophecy that states that one day, a ‘Living Chalice’ will sit upon the Shariax and bring about something called the ‘Great Resurrection’ >their homeworld of Occludus is called a Cemetery World and they have incredibly intricate burial rituals >their 1st Company, called the ‘War-Geists’ wield power scythes in battle >something in the Ghoul Stars, described as a “star-spawned plague” or a “nightmare engine” that swept away scores of worlds once caused an apocalyptic war that destroyed 11 Chapters and turned most worlds in the region into Dead Worlds>they have a special salute called the salute of skull and throne >in a bid to keep their Chapter ranks full, they search human-populated worlds for the most Hvng Bvlls and the most fertile, plump females that they call “Prime Stock” and kidnap them>they then force the “Prime Stock” onto literal breeding worlds to have endless sex to produce Trve Aryan Übermensch for recruitment into the Chapter>this makes redditors very upset
>>557551260Nice, I love the chapters that live on the Imperium's periphery such as the Space Sharks.
>>557556516There’s a ton they could do with their lore, with the Shariax, the prophecy with the Living Chalice, but the problem is is that the whole “breeding worlds” thing is all literally r*dditors think about now, and I don’t think modern GW would touch them with a 20 foot stick
One more week until Feb's monthly community post
>>557568790Can't take this waiting. Cyberstan got boring fast in HD2.
>>557569196Hopefully they thought long and hard about the Techmarine's perks or some shit.
It's weird how they didnt replace the techies equipment slot with carryable tarantula turrets, the whole "you find them randomly on the map" just sounds like a recipe for them being useless 99% of the time
>>557569196I’m still having fun just driving the tank on different fronts A strategic opportunity just opened up against the Squids and I’m enjoying blasting apart Harvesters with the main gun
>>557570658Techmarines don't carry Tarantula turrets, they either a) assemble them or b) call them in via drop pod; the last one is impossible for inept vatnik developersWhat Saber will do and probably already did was make Tarantula turrets tuned for lower difficulty where they'll be really strong but completely useless against a Ruthless and Absolute wave/Terminus spawn; they won't exist in siege mode and PvP tooThey will shuffle their feet in a couple of updates buffing the bolters and will eventually settle for the turret to be invulnerable but only present for like an entire minute where it will shoot Minoris instead of the big enemies
>>557573908what are you talking about, people are saying how turrets solo terminus spawns
>>557580138I’ve yet to see any footage of these claims
>>557559205Sadly warhammer is a reddit franchise Anon with GW steadily getting worse just like niggards of the coast. Enjoy your femstodes I guess.
>>557588637There's a few videos but they only show static Terminus bosses losing 3/4 of their health but these turrets do get destroyed in higher difficulty initiating a small Melta bomb blast or go offline when there are no more enemies.
>>557588637https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skK4fLEba4kyou can google 'tarantula turret sm2' and any result would show you that its the actual best part of his kit
So basically we just leave all Cadians to die on that exploding ship. They really can't catch a break.
>>557573908Marines dont carry regenerating grenades either. Please don't use these kind of arguments, they're so dumb.
>>557611954FOR THE EMPEROR!
>>557293039I have 60 hours and have completed multiple. My advice? Play with a single friend and have a bot to cheese revives. worked really well for the health atrophy.
>>557616424I have no friends.
>>557616998sorry broseph. guessing you're not oce?
>>557616424>My advice?nobody asked, chum
>>557612803>Marines dont carry regenerating grenades either
>>557618054do you enjoy being an unhelpful faggot?
>>557612803I remember back when SM1 came out and a GW employee saying he kept having kids ask him if the bolter with a scope in the Tactical Squad set was a Stalker bolter and had special rules.
February 26th for the update, time to sleep
>>557629057Stimshots?
>>557629256New type of medstim that gives you a heal over time effect instead for 100% of your HP meaning you can fully clear a wound if you dont take damage while it's active
>>557629457aaah yes thank you, it's been so long since the previous saber announcement I already forgot they were a thing
They also buffed the wrath reliquary to give a 35% damage boost instead of 25%
>>557629057>Perfectly timed my time off from work and masked it under a completely bullshit reason so nobody bothers meSometimes my genius is almost frightening.
>>557629057Yeah, cool. I already played as Techie during PTS. I'm in no rush to jump into another series of solo sessions. When I feel like it I'll just ask one of my friends to boost me.
At least they acknowledged the Techmarine's survivability issue and sentry placements being inconsistent as shit.
>>557634894>timed my time off from work and masked it under a completely bullshit reasonpromotions incoming
>>557636784they acknowledged itthey wont change it
>>557636927>Implying any fucker on work has my socials or SteamMy Facebook account doesn't even have my real name. It exists to be the backup save data slut for shit mobile games I play.
>>557438042another useless sn*per doing 0 damage
what legion was the chaos techmarine in pts?
Space Marine 2 update 12 twitch drops will they be good The Aquila chest plate was pretty cool looking from the last drop
>>557642239red corsairs
>>557642741I'm sorry, I'm still not going to help you meeting your cross-channel synergy KPIs. Even with fomo firstborn helmets you couldn't entice me to make a pros account, so why would I comply now.
>>557642741Probably some lame purple weapon skin and then something actually decent for the omnissiah axe.
>3 heroic weapons for 300 each>maxed out accolades lets me grab them all at onceWonder if they'll add any decent individual armor pieces with the update.
>>557644270i was not on the pts. is there a difference between the heroic heavy bolter grenade launcher and the regular bolter grenade launcher in terms of the grenade part?
>>557644270>reach 900 accolades>forget that the updating is coming soon>spend all on cosmetic shit i don't care aboutnyoro~n.
>>557644572I wasn't on PTS either but I don't think the HBR with the grenade launcher attachment even had the correct ID for its heroic perk.So AFAIK it was literally just an HBR with a grenade launcher bit.
>join hard strat>prestige II lvl 13 sniper>prestige 0 lvl 1 heavywhat the fuck is wrong with the people playing this game
>>557645317they are hardcore performative gamers, they are not going to play on a difficulty setting called "average" or "substantial"
>>557645317>join another one>lvl 5 bulwark prestige I standing in the loading zone>"for the emperooor"fuck em all to death
>>557645541post a code
>>557645648no
>>557644572It had 11 grenades, I believe. Not sure if that was affected by any perks I was running (it was on tactical and I think I had the ammo increase prestige perk), but I believe that's more than the standard grenade launcher.No idea if damage is different.
>>557646178Then perish
>>557647296wtf is this image. why would some one edit the barrel out
>>557647296You posted the incorrect one Brother.
>Sniper with marksman bolt carbine and free grenades on headshot + Tactical with grenade regenHaha time to shit Meltas.
>>557647571gotta be one of my favorite genders
>>557548118>>557548390The original MC looked more like a white dude cosplaying a native american.
>69 kills>10 - 0 pointsfucking kek, never have I seen a bigger rape here. It was 4 vs 4 and we fought long for a first objective. But once enemy team got helbrute it felt like it was impossible to kill him. I even started making ambushes and dropping melta onto him from above and it did nothing seemingly.I got 9 kills for armor progression anyway, that's the only thing that matters
g'night, cousins.