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Rivalry Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>557227256
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Warden
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mirage drifter venator threesome
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>scottish accent
>irish accent
>british accent
Wales BTFO'd.
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>Celeste can miss her ult and get half the cooldown refunded
I love playing her but this is honestly too much just having it maxed and having superior cooldown you get the ult back in 40s. That is way too much value.
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>>557246736
Based. We aimlets run this bitch
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>>557246543
I want to lick Mina's asshole and pussy until I cum without her even touching my cock and she giggles and mocks me for getting so excited over her heavenly holes.
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Crates are boring.
Street Brawl is bullshit.
Movement is too powerful.
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>>557246687
Boho will have a Welsh accent
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>>557246736
It's weird she has this when there are tons of skillshot ults that are lower impact with higher CD that don't
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he was right
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how do people do wall jumps forward when they're air strafing? just pressing jump on a wall causes you to jump sideways, not forward

also are you not meant to dash forwards, just tap double jump?
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Repostan cause I didn't realize new thread

https://rentry.co/qcmzh4n2
Here's where I'm at, deadtards. Almost nearly getting into the good part now, 3.5k words
I'd appreciate any second opinions on if there's anything out of place before I get back onto it later tonight. I spent a bit of time flying around the map looking at ads for brand names and stuff lol

>>557232484
Probably never to be QUITE desu, this kind of game/genre doesn't attract enough writers/readers I don't think
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I legitimately don't understand how Celeste still exists. Silver was nerfed the next day. Graves was nerfed the next day. Venator was nerfed that night. Celeste is more broken than any of those on release and we're going on three days with nothing.
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rem couldnt do it bros...
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>>557247128
>we're going on three days with nothing
Wrong, Celeste got something. They added more custom animations to her kit solely for style points (while Silver still uses borrowed Drifter and Seven animations LOL)
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>>557247128
It's literally all based off what the pros feel like, as that's the only people Yoshi (and by the extension the community) listen to. Just look at that tournament, Silver was the fucking first pick and went 0/5 but the pros insist she is broken and needs nerfs
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>>557232484
>>557247107
>writefag archive
can i get a quick rundownTM
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>>557247267
The pros first banned Celeste literally every match in DLNS. The casters didn't even comment on it, because it was expected and made the devs look bad.
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>>557247267
Celeste was banned literally every game because every pro agrees she's busted.
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>>557247397
they just dumb and never played dota
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>holliday doesn't get a partial refund on missed ult
>celeste does
defend this
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My wife Darcy Graves!
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>be graves
>max gun
>buy spell breaker
>become unkillable
>win for free
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>>557247537
which hero is wishing for TND? that's my main
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>>557247543
Apollo will literally kill you in 2 hits without his ult lol.
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>>557247056
listening to his voicelines hes actually not that much of an asshole. Other people just treat him like shit by default and he responds accordingly.
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>>557247539
I love watching the other heros tell your wife shes a retard with daddy issues.
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>>557247630
that's funny cause he was on the enemy team and didnt
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Troon in voice chat trying to talk with a higher pitch voice

Bro... just give it up. you're not fooling anyone
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>>557247603
Seven
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>>557247759
Let me guess, the attempt at sounding like a woman just makes him sound like a stereotypical gay man?
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>>557247721
A bad player does not define the character lol. His damage is so overtuned.
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any ability or item that lets me relocate my teammates is too much responsibility
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>>557247841
Why do you post this every thread?
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>Chuds finally get two characters
>they're both irredeemable dogshit
Kek, It's Kino!
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>>557247467
holliday players do not miss
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>>557247989
Yamato should have apollo's ult
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>>557247107
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Apollo might be the weakest hero in the game
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Hey, newbie question: are there any items you consider a must-have on all if not most heroes? I'm guessing you can never go wrong with extra HP, cooldown reductions and anti-heal?
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>>557248051
can you fuck off?
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>>557248051
SAAAAAAAAAAR
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>>557248098
healing rite
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>>557247759
I genuinely feel bad for these guys sometimes.
Its a shame half the time they wind up squandering that good will by being the biggest cunts imaginable.
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>>557248098
counterspell is the best item in the game
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Ok yeah this character is fucking tupid
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>>557248098
counterspell is the worst item in the game
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>>557248293
rapeable tho right?
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>>557248342
Very
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Why don't they just nerf snowballing? Are they stupid? Like, just adjust some number and balance the game. Then people will be allowed to have fun and games won't be perma one sided.
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>>557248293
>spirit build
lol
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>>557248051
Yeah this one kinda fucked up
The thing on the left is clearly her pants leg and boot
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>>557248375
either that or put surrender option in asap
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>Sinclair steals Victor ult
>dont kill him
>ult wears off
>dies

shrimple as that
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>>557248391
Spirit seems way more straightforward
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>>557248542
whats more straight forward than holding m1 and stealing 80% opponents damage slowing/silencing them?
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Does being into fencing make Apollo a frenchaboo or an italiaboo?
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>went against my first doorman who bought refresher
I don't think I can play this game anymore.
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>>557248293
>lightning scroll on graves ult
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>4 passive item slots.
>4 active item slots.
>Early game items are cheaper, more varied and niche, leading to lane build variations.
>Mid to late game items require several early game items to build (combine).
>Less total items in the endgame, but keeping the same overall power level by having distinctive and impactful items.
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>>557248625
>he buys refresher
>he ults me once and preps for his epic second meme ult
>use the counterspell I bought after I saw he bought refresher and cuck him
wouldn't expect a retarded frog faggot to possess critical thinking skills
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>>557248597
>>557248661
I read spirit on my tooltips so I pick spirit, I don't know the intricacies of the game yet man
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>give character a gun that literally cannot miss
>/dlg/ poster still can't use it, opts to go spirit instead

haha
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>>557248445
I doubt that would make things much better.
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>>557248098
>Counter spell
>Trophy collector
>Transcendent cooldown
>Cultist sacrifice

Every game, Thank me latter (no matter the hero) not in that order per say
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I think I'm gonna give the devs a couple weeks to balance the game before I play another standard match, 2 bullshit ults in one week is giving me a headache
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>>557248774
its ok, bae. im sure you will learn, have fun!
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>Buffed Silver
>Nerfed Venator
I now remember why I uninstalled this dogshit game
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>>557248803
yea, but at least i can spam ff
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>Rem buffs
why
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They should rework Drifter's passive or give it the additional effect of giving him a stacking attack damage buff the further he crouch walks, and give him slightly faster crouch walk movespeed
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>>557248051
Improved
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>>557248813
Average Drifter that gets put on my team
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>>557248897
braindead devs
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>>557248625
The actual hell is Doorman spamming bell nukes. He never actually got close enough to me to fucking meme me with his faggot ass humiliation ritual ultimate. But just the ability toss straight up nukes with that ridiculous AOE size is pretty fucking retarded. If I was a low mobility character it would be 10x as hellish. I'm sure the guy buying Refresher is also just straight up nuking with Bells but the Bells for me were the real issue. God forbid you have latency.
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>>557248813
this nigga roleplaying
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>>557248813
I would be embarrassed to post that.
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>>557248813
>Doorman ults a shitter that was about to die to a 1v3 anyway, making his team awkwardly wait for a few seconds
I swear Doormen just ult someone for the fun of it, it was still funny to see Drifter not know how to escape the parkour course
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>>557248813
hrrrmm... colonel... I've infiltrated the yellow lane
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>>557248897
some plz post notes
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>Silver buffs
>Benator buffs
chud bros we're so back
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>>557248813
How did you get this leaked MGS6 gameplay?
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>>557249118
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>>557249118
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/#post-204182
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>>557249151
>venator buffs
yes great buffs his ult is now abysmal dogshit but at least he has 30 more health
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I feel like i cant win a fucking game, some games I do really well and its just not in the cards and we lose anyway. I have more pages of red. This game makes me feel really bad about myself/ I feel like i have no impact ever whatsoall. The games where I am a key player there is some retarded feeding the hell out of it, some games are just in the middle where it just tilts out of control.
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>>557248813
sneaky sneaky
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>>557246543
>4 out of the 6 new hero are ability and cc heavy.
>Graves lit has auto aim.
>Every single orange item watered down.
>Everyone building one shot builds.
>Most movement items outright mid.
umm gunplay bros... there gonna overcorrect right? right????
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>>557248897
he got buffed and nerfed but i don't think the pillow buffs were necessary at all
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>silver buffs
awooooooooooo
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I was already raping with silver in midlow because I could hit all my CDs, thanks yoshi!
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Calico should be a rich artifact collector. The kind that offers money to Graves to take the Lich hand. I don't care about her current lore.
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>>557248813
>>557248942
>>557249010
>the way he shoots off a round of fingernails at Rem but misses, deems he is still unnoticed, so remains hidden and goes to move in closer to his prey
>the way he looks around in the baroness unperturbed by or feeling any sense of urgency from the giant, dwindling bar in the bottom-middle of his screen
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>>557249282
They should've called this the braindead update
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>>557247924
I've already said my peace
What I do every thread? It's your fault.
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>>557249118
>>557249243
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>>557249009
>I'm sure the guy buying Refresher is also just straight up nuking with Bells
How did you know?
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Apollo ult is pure chuuni cinema bros
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I hope this game dies again
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>>557248436
It's just a colored in version of the original posters image.
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>>557249118
>>557249243
>>557249386
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>>557248870
>buffs across the board besides his ult
>"they nerfed him"
retard
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>>557249386
awooooOOOOO
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>>557249386
>Rem buffs
ITS PILLOW TIME
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They nerfed the only fun part about venator.
Gay!
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>>557248813
im legit in tears bro, thanks
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>>557249386
>silver buffs
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>They didnt get rid of the ability to destroy Venator traps

Its still shit
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>>557249386
based!
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>>557249609
It is much healthier for him to be a well rounded gunnigger carry with a decent ult than for him to just be a walking ult and dogshit otherwise
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>>557249559
>slight useless buffs to 2 and 1
>ult dead and buried
dumb cunt
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>extremely spirit heavy hero, big scaling, big burst damage
>best way to play this hero is to ignore all that and build gun
when are we going to admit that gun is just superior overall?
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>give a character a sword
>dont give him the ability to stab people with it
Bravo Valve
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>>557249670
If you actually want this you're admitting that you don't care about the health of the game and you probably think not being able to shoot Rem's helpers was a stellar idea
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>win game
>mvp
>lose game
>key player
feels good
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they should make you unable to shoot graves' skulls
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>>557249769
his 3 seems pretty stabby to me
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>>557249839
this but unironically
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>>557249480
I promise you guys celeste is still a top 5 character after these nerfs
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>>557249792
>>557249719
>muh health of the game
kys pls
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>>557249745
>wanting him to be an ultbot
fuck off
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>>557249670
>littering an area with multiple invulnerable traps at once
thanks i'll pass, GT's trap is aids enough
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>>557249480
She still has absurd movement. They nerfed her fucking autoattack, as if she clicks M1 past 4 minutes into the game.

Still gigabroken.
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>>557248813
The mythical golden mind control drifter.
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dynamo is the only hero I can win with but he's so fucking boring
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>>557249525
>spawn in line with his crosshair
>they still slide
??
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God damn I was just mowing them down Venator is too fun. Wasn't even really the ult because I go 0/3 way too much because I can't fucking aim. The Grenades put in way more work than the ult it's unreal how much damage they do.
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The extra stun duration on gunshot means you can run echo shard melee now
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>>557249975
this might be the most retarded post in all of dlg history, well done
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>>557248813
do you record this live or can you turn the hud off in the replay?
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>>557249937
>non argument
His ult was already dogshit now its completely useless like the rest of his kit
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All of these new heros except venator are basically free wins if they are played by people who know how to play them, celeste and appollo are the most abhorrent. Compared to the orginal EA heros these new ones got so much goi g for them now that if abrams was released now his 3 would be passive and he would have a high damaging AoE stun and slow multi use that shields him as his 3 instead.
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>>557247537
I still think it’s really funny Abrams botches his wish in Giests VN.
man spent a long ass time getting hunted, car blown up, house raided, decided to summon a godlike being as a last ditch effort, fights a bloody brawl all night, trips over his own balls at the last second.
That’s hilarious, I really hope if they follow through with the VN aspect with a couple more people on the roster that fuck up their wish, Vyper for sure is gonna say something sarcastically as a bit that’ll end up eating up the wish
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>deadcockers getting filtered by lich ult
swag
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>overtime in brool is a loud ass fog horn now
spooky
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i want to smell apollo's boysmell
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>>557250147
nothing can be certain in this world except death, taxes, and moba powercreep
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>early game victor
Weak
>mid game victor (if enemy isnt fed)
strong
>late game victor
Weak
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>>557247913
you are bad if you think that, he's melee range
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>>557249243
>Grasping Hands range nerfed
Deserved
>also damage buff
Not really sure if it needs it but I'll take it.
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>>557249386
>rem buffs
FUCKING WHY HE'S THE MOST BROKEN SUPPORT IN THE GAME
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POST VIABLE MINA BUILDS.... OH WAIT.
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>blah blah blah point is no we didn't nerf the big blue nigger man
fuck off
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>>557250091
Celeste is just going to be nerfed again next week. Watch.
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GRAVES DOWNPLAYERS, WHERE ARE YOU NOW
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>>557249525
I'd so happily take those venator nerfs in return for his shotgun stun increase guaranteeing a melee and the traps being less clunky to place but I dont think those trap changes stop the sliding
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>>557250330
I agree, but that has nothing to do with why your post is retarded
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>>557250337
>>557250337
right here yo, I rate every one of my heroes as weak so they stay strong longer
#winning
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>>557249386
>Rem throwing his buddies on lane creeps auto vacuums the souls
it’s a auto push AND farm?
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>>557250320
Don't bother getting up!
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>>557250098
please respond i wnana make cool webbums
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>>557250170
nulich ult is an overbuffed piece of shit though
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>>557250170
>lich ult except it prioritizes heros over creeps, moves faster, makes less noise and can hit you from out of your fov
how horrifying
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>>557250418
yeah lol, if rems creeps push a lane out and nobody is nearby they split up the souls among your team
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>>557249937
>his shotgun stun increase guaranteeing a melee
except the stun duration is still the same (completely useless)
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>they buffed Rem
what in the actual fuck
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>>557246543
CANON LORE SPOILERS: Paige really is an erotic dancer with the stage name "Cinnamon", named for how she has freckles sprinkled all over her big fat milky white tits like cinnamon sprinkled on top of a latte. She does it to raise money for her local underfunded community library which gives poor children the gift of reading. And also because being lusted over and drooled over by a bunch of horny men in a seedy strip joint is a kink of hers.

#No kink shaming
#sex work is real work
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>Rem buffs
Why?
>Silver ult nerf
Why?
>Venator ult nerf
Why?
>Graves nerf
THANK YOU
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>>557250418
For some reason Icefrog thinks it's ok that Wisp has Naga's ability to push every lane simultaneously without needing to commit, only you don't need any items to do it
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those silver changes are fucking ass LOL
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>>557249525
>Buffed all of Venator abilities
>nerf ult
That’s fair, him being a by design Ultbot was a little tragic
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>>557250292
They nerfed the trooper healing and sinner's stealing which were his two most bullshit abilities
Pillows getting buffed is also a good thing since his damage is shit but that's Valve's fault for only giving him 1 damaging regular ability
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>>557250625
>Venator ult nerf
>Why?
They literally buffed everything else about him, don't tell me you preferred being an ult bot...
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>>557250372
no u
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Why nerf Venator's ult? It wasn't even THAT good anymore.
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>>557248813
Careful D, the walker is just ahead.
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>>557250528
also it lingers when you get far enough away instead of just stopping lol
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>>557247467
in all seriousness holliday would win every lane matchup if she got ult refund on miss - she'd be able to threaten ult way more. meanwhile chain frost is just chain frost and requires 2+ to be great.
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Venator ult is literally just worse DPS than shooting them with your gun now, lol
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Can someone explain to ne wbat the quicksilver reload/mercurial line on Venator means?

Does it mean that it can trigger on his skills now?
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the bebop nerfs?
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Literally why nerf the ult?
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>>557250824
his gun doesn't execute though
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>>557250012
play support lash with rescue beam, basically the same but better
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>>557250730
>tiny buffs to dogshit abilities
>total death to his ult
lmao
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>>557247989
>apollo is dogshit

no way, the ult alone is great. he has unique punish opportunities nobody else gets from the speed of his 3 alone, he can punish people in the air very quickly
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>>557250625
>Graves Nerf
They just reworked her, if anything it's a buff.
>lost a little grasping hands range in exchange for more damage (it had a fuckton of range anyways)
>borrowed decree spawns its zombies faster (same number total though)
>Jar of dead do more damage but last a little less time (can now use as burst damage before it gets cleared by enemies better)
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>>557250825
Yes, because 1 and 2 don't do spirit damage, they didn't proc QSR. Now they do. Still not a good pickup, though.
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>/dlg/ exposing themselves only using venator as an ultbot
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You can now toss Venator traps super fucking far, like a whole ass room away.
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>>557250773
Lich ult does that too, but celeste's has more than twice the linger duration (2s vs 4.5s)
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>>557250842
old vindy and the others like lash had more sovl when they were uglier, sadly you cant market a game without everyone being 10/10 gigastacies anymore it just cant work financially
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>>557250625
>>557250736
>>557250824
>>557250845
cause ven ult is basically a win lane bottom against any squishy at a high rank level.
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>Yamato slash does more damage than Venator ult
another amazing balance
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>>557250736
>release venator
>ult is bugged
>"Yoshi, Yoshi, dis is ridiculous, nerfa his ulta!"
>fix ult bug
>"Yoshi, Yoshi, why didnchu nerf his ulta Yoshi, mamma mia dis is awful!"
>have to nerf ult until people with a 3 week timelag stop screaming about it
>silently buff it only 2 major updates later when actual powercreep rolls in
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Do you start with Ira Domini or end on it after using all your skills?
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>>557248813
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I wish I could get another discord invite FUCK
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>>557251069
It's a finisher, get your enemies to half then start slinging stakes
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- Rem: Pillow Toss T3 now also grants +1 Charge


nuoh my word
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>>557248813
sovlkino
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>>557251069
may as well use it on creeps now
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>>557248813
I play like this
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>ult nerfed
>nothing said about him raping mina and dwifta 5% harder than everyone else
very cool valve
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I guess you probably go 2 in shotgun now before maxing Venator ult
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>>557251147
Not sure if it makes pillow good enough, 10 sec between charges is still too long.
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>graves change
>nerf all spirit stuff
>jar
>wall
>ult
>buff gun range
what
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>>557251265
continue enjoying your m1 walking debuff, bro
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>>557249525
>Rem: Enemies attacking a Sinner's Sacrifice while your helpers are on it will now cause them to get scared and go back to you
GET THE FUCK OFF MY SINNERS
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>didn't increase venator or silver's gun boon dmg
they're still only gonna tickle, hopefully her ult rate increase is enough to trigger it BEFORE you die now
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His shotgun feels WAY better now.

I feel like before the buff I was always short some distance to stun someone.
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>Game gets popular again
>Time to drop the worst balance changes known to man
Classic Yoshi
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>>557251328
>will now cause them to get scared and go back to you
Cute
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>>557251265
>jar - more damage per skull shorter dur
>wall - smaller has a giant spirit mod
>ult - pure buff since zombies pop out faster with no number reduction
>gun - +1m
wow, so much nerf, very balancing
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>>557249765
Nobody plays gun shiv though.
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>>557251413
>wall
slash size
40% reduction to duration
increase scaling
>ult
they reduced the damage scaling
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>>557251374
>That extra 0.5m on the wall splatter feels heckin amazing
kek
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>>557249765
The Lash does not care for gun items
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>>557249386
>start playing silver and saving fan art of her bc shes so cute
>this happens
yay!! i did it!!
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>>557251535
bro ur mystic shot headhunter 4800 combo?
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>>557251496
>they reduced the damage scaling
>spirit scaling from 0.05 to 0.04
wow, so much nerf, really feeling her winrate drop now
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Hows the new kid? All I’ve seen of him was his DMC-esk ult
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>>557251513
you missed this retardbro

>- Venator: Gutshot fixed wall stun distance not scaling with ability range
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So Graves is meant to be a carry, right?
Just a weird, fucked up slow carry
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>Venator goes 0/12/2, somehow
>Builds fucking healing rite as his only tier 4 item, only other sustain item is resto shot
>Has the lowest healing on the team (and also lowest player damage but that's besides the point)
Yoshi save me from elo hell
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>>557251619
lol no shes basically a control mage
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JUST WALK AWAY

SPLIT UP

DO A ROLL

HOW IS BALL EVEN REAL?! LMAOOO
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>>557251605
low cooldowns, every ability has movement, has built-in chunk heal on damage that can be cast 3 times in a row, free counterspell+dash+stun in one skill
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>Game gets popular again
>Time to drop the worst balance patches known to man
Classic Yoshi
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>>557251619
Her autoaim multishot gun is actually supposed to be a mass debuffing tool with shit like toxic bullets and silencer, she's not a m1gger carry by any means though, especially not with how squishy you are
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>>557249258
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Yeah, Celeste is still fucking incredibly broken. See you fags Tuesday.
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>>557249258
post your best game on doorman
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>his heavy melee is a fucking kick
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>>557250232
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>>557251986
how do you make a "heavy" hit with a rapier then?
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I'm really fucking bad at positioning myself to get shotgun stuns on Venator like I try to run in circles around enemies to get them between me and a wall
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>>557249258
My match history looks the same right now. Its getting infuriating. Its been that way since Celeste launched. Busted fucking bitch.
Also Doorman is a bit harder to carry on, a little more supporty. But I don't play him really, so what do I know.
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>>557252070
throw it up, grab the point, smash with the hilt
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>>557252056
how many AI filters is this guy(?) on?
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>apollo stuck on Rem tunnels
>cannot use Kill command
>lose
wew great game.
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>>557252056
kek this looks like an ftm tranny
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celeste does not have a weenie stop this depraved meme
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>Venator gutted
Time to uninstall again
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>WAAAH WAAAH WAAH HE KICKS

He uses his sword in all his skills you retarded niggers
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>>557252160
Female cosplayer.
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>>557252056
>blur and lightning edits
>the keyhole is untouched
lmao
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>>557252145
>grab the point
so you deal damage to yourself at same time?
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>>557252186
He definitely wasn't gutted but his ult kinda sucks now
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When I first picked Doorman it was with the intention to be the most annoying nigger alive, but after putting some time into the game I realize I should instead embrace the fun plays he offers for I could never be more annoying than a niggerbop player no matter how hard I try.
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>>557252292
>The only good thing he has kinda sucks now
>Not gutted
Pick one
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I thought apollo was just trying to appeal to the hazbin folks but now I realize he's red vergil like how abrams is blue hellboy. I kneel yoshi...
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>his ult sucks now
>just had a match where my full green mo and krill got deleted by an ult salvo from venator
Uh huh
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>anons compare venator to vindicta
>THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT YOU CHUD
>yoshi gives him a laser beam
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>yoshi kills off ultbot venator so I can play him every game now
thank you yoshi
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>>557252146
At least 2
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>>557252153
>add 1 single movement based hero
>it' fucking breaks the game
I thought valve was a good company....
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>trannycoded character gets to be completely overtuned, overloaded and overpowered and goes untouched for longer than any other broken hero
coincidence, I'm sure
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>>557252447
>trust me bro
Take the green dick out of your mouth pls
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>>557252479
They have not been a good company for 18 years
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>>557248813
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>Rem pillows buffed
This lil nigga was already raping me with his pillows and they reduced the CD even more???
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Why every single fucking Venator insist in buying Sharpshooter every single time
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>>557252543
>trannycoded
she literally has a tiny cock that has shrunk after years of hrt
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>>557252605
Don't worry, no one will be playing him in a couple of days
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This trap QoL feels better
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>>557251779
He actually sounds pretty fun
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>>557252543
Did she just get nerfed albeit later then the other ones
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>>557251935
does that count as a win or loss or highest net worth or are we going purely kda?
Im just trying to find the metric, sometimes when I win I feel like it didnt matter if I played or not despite the score.
I had to dig around for what I call the Best and it was this mvp gam from like a month ago, its been just painful loss after loss and maybe a gimmie inbetween ever since. I just want to improve. I know the character is hard but it just seems like no amount of optimization brings you over the edge
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>>557252685
source?
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>>557252428
He's the bait and switch hero of this patch
>Implied to be a quirky Hazbin Tiefling Tumblr character by appearance alone
>Is actually a chud nationalist
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>>557252543
You're the one giving into tranny demands and pretending Celeste has anything to do with them
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>>557249386
>buffs to basically everything in the kit
I guess yoshi finally noticed she had like 40% winrate across all ranks
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>>557252479
8 years in active development btw
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>>557252479
all half life games and cs source had game-breaking movement, what did you expect
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>>557252660
The stun duration feels great too. Now if someone jumps on you and theres a wall nearby, they are really paying for that shit.
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>>557252728
Look at the patch notes >>557249243
She got some damage reductions but she'll be strong
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The Silver buffs are nice but they should seriously buff her fire rate, confirming souls is still really tight
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>>557252769
And during most of that time, it looked like this
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>>557252728
Here: >>557249243
But of course, the nerfs are all a big nothingburger, and the change to her ult is actually a buff, not a nerf, LOL. I think this hero might be worse for the game than release Victor, and he had a 60% winrate on launch.
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>8 people viewer my feedback post

Feels good bros
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>>557246543
I paid a hero token to play Apollo and all of my team ragequit the game half way through
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>>557252753
>the obvious tranny-coded character isnt a tranny because.... BECAUSE I FUCKING SAID SO OKAY???
retard.
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>>557252605
Because it would still be useful on his ult but since they nerfed his ult even more. He's going to be another boring m1gger. The spirit trap changes are a literal nothingburger.
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flopping tranny deadcock
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what about celeste being a horse or a performer makes her autos track and bounce behind cover?
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>>557252926
what did you bitch about
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Remove bebop voicelines I don't want to hear these MACHINES talking to me
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>>557253203
gives gender euphoria to the troondev that made her
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>>557249386
Even as a Remfag the Helpers not granting any bonus souls was complete bullshit

>>557252153
The command is "killme"
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>>557253237
amish hero when
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>>557253092
No hes right, its like the same faggot retards that say "tranime" like they didn't invade that hobby too. Not giving shit over to them. Its the cotton candy color scheme, and thats that.
Shes still a busted character and needs nerfed into the dirt.
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>>557252695
>Im just trying to find the metric, sometimes when I win I feel like it didnt matter if I played or not despite the score.
you probably don't have a point of reference in regards to being "useful"
try playing a character that's really good at destroying towers and quickly stealing enemy jungle instead of going for just kills
>team doesn't do well and gets into fights?
>shove lanes
>push walkers
>carry urn
>kill t3 camps
>kill enemy farmers
>solo midboss
whatever you can do to make it impossible for the enemy to make a quick comeback if by some chance everyone on your team isn't a drooling retard and is making progress
every minute counts
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Bebop is based and a great hero and he deserves buffs to his bombs
If you got a boner after reading this then you agree with me 100%
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>>557252886
>wraith use to be white
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>>557253470
MODS
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Why does Apollo look like Ruby Rose?
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>>557253537
he's ftm, obviously
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>Wake up
>See a shit ton of Rem buffs
I'm feeling really good, granted I didn't think he needed them but I can't complain. How's Apollo? Not been able to see him ingsme yet but is he obnoxious to play against?
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>>557253520
Are you retarded?
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>>557253470
This is what'll happen to graves if the lich gets what it wants in the ritual
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This balance patch is legit insulting. Celeste is very obviously still completely broken, while old heroes are getting powercrept out of the game.

At least the Rem changes were well done.
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>>557253574
No one knows because everyone that's playing him suck ass. but he's most likely decent atleast he has strong spirit scaling for mid game but I'm not sure how well he fares late game.
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>one gets buffed
>one gets murdered
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where do I read new patch :(
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>>557253663
like who?
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>>557253663
its an alpha, sweetie.
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>>557253702
I need Venators pick rate to keep tanking so I can one trick him for real
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>>557253574
he's like Yamato with a lot more movement and healing, pubbies suck at him
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>>557253739
The game has a forum account prepared for you or whatever automatically
the forum

https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/#post-204182
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>>557253574
Apollo is strong but not obnoxiously strong and if you get stomped by one it's because he outplayed you, all his abilities have a telegraph but give him really flexible positioning
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Seeing total retards in ascendant come up with the dumbest fucking builds for Apollo made me realize just how useful picking someone else's build is for these neanderthals. They really can't think for themselves otherwise they buy all purples and instantly die.
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>>557253815
I saw 1/30 and thought oh this must not be it then remembered someone mentioning Yoshi replying to himself instead of making a new thread so...
But yeah thank u
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>>557253783
Venator one tricks owe me sex, will you really take that risk?
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>>557253783
nigga he's horrible now might as well play Haze at this point.
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>>557253470
>teehee so embarrassing I totally haven't taken 1000000 cocks already
ew
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why does he need a laser, just get out of his way??
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>>557252886
The Toy Story moba.
>Muscleguy
kek
Also funny to see characters whose designs did not heavily change.
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pffft
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yoshi saw the 43% winrate on venator and thought "yeah, this guy needs to be nerfed into the ground"
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where's GT's laser?
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>Calico feeds the fuck out of our lane
>There's no option to select your server so my ping keeps spiking to 200 and idles at 70 because it's probably connected to Bumfuckistan.
>Make an absolute fool out of myself
Everything else I play idles at 30 this is bullshit!
Might as well just save time and kill myself.
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>>557253470
I have a dick and thus never will be a woman nor do I want to, but stuff like that does make me wonder how it would feel like. Say what you want about the benefits of having a dick, but putting it in things never made me writhe in pleasure and it's not even her genitalia that are being stimulated. Women just get to enjoy this whole sex thing so much more.
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Is Seven in line with a model job too? They're not gonna explain his light bulb head, yeah?
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>>557254031
right here
*unzips dick*
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guys imagine being invited to a sleepover with apollo but there was only 1 bed left and you had to share it with him?
that would be crazy haha
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>>557253670
I guess it is too early to ask, but I feel Celeste was aids to play against really early regardless so I asked anyway.
>>557253789
I see, noted.
>>557253839
So long as he's fun to play against I'm happy, don't plan on playing him myself and all. I need to get some games in soon.
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>>557253769
same boring excuse for bad balance. They will in fact, make the exact same mistakes if it ever gets released fully.
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>>557254127
this but venator
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>>557254091
>They're not gonna explain his light bulb head, yeah?
He fused with the electric chair.
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>>557254127
It would be in character for him to demand you sleep on the floor so it wouldn't be fun at all. Stupid ass.
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>>557254204
why would a middle aged man be at a sleepover
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>>557254127
this but with silver and we get drunk and she breeds me..
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>>557249098
It's for humiliation, not efficiency.
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>>557252886
>Astro became Holliday
>Forge became McGinnis
>Chrono becamse Paradox
>Forge became McGinnis
>Gigawatt became Seven
>Nano became Calico
>Orion became Grey Talon
>Spade became Wraith
>Inferno became Infernus
>Ghost probably became Geist
Am I missing any?
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>>557253092
Weird because in my headcanon Celeste is as straight as an arrow and an absolute beast in bed dur to acrobatics
Why don't you repeat my headcanon?
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bit disappointed with apollo honestly,
the way that the leeeekers were describing his movement was that he would be on-par or above celeste in terms of schmovement, but really the only thing he sorta does is circle you with his 3 and somewhat bounce back with his 1
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Does bebop still get bomb stacks if you parry is bomb explosion with counterspell or apollo?
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>got apollo every single time ive picked him
is no one playing him or what
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>enemy team is a smurf stack with movement from brackets well above the mmr of the lobby
>they're also extremely well coordinated
>my team is literal bots
time to go to sleep.
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>play overwatch
>get to play the hero I want almost every time
>play deadlock
>get to play the hero I want only half the time
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>>557254204
Venator, but he lets me do this to him for hours while pretending not to enjoy it as much as I do.
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>>557254351
Synth became Pocket, but isn't pictured there
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>>557253449
Most normal sane take. It's crazy how people will just so easily give up something because secondaries invade the hobby.
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would anyone like to play a game before i go to bed
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>>557253984
Personally, I don't think winrates mean as much as people think. Top level players merely pick their OP shit and suck the devs dicks to keep them broken.
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>>557250920
>Still not a good pickup
don't care still not buying active reload
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>>557254578
No, Celeste is just going to be in that one, too.
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>load into deadlock
>only play hard carries
>lane goes okay
>other two lanes feed
>now need to fight against 3 people 10k souls up on me
>everyone on my team dcs
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Why is there no hero talking about slavery in this game
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>>557254628
but we would be in that one...
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Gyaru hero when?
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>>557254578
A brool or a normal game? I'm down for any..
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>>557252886
>fuck you here's Team Fortress 2 medic
Honestly quite based. He should be a hero in Deadlock.
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I started playing deadlock yesterday. Got about 12 matches in - 8 with bots, 4 with players. I like Abrams. I think I’m supposed to play him like magnus - stun and skewer. I kinda like victor - get close to an enemy, turn on aura and hope they die before I do. Mina seems 100% useless - no health, no damage, no nothing. Also theres some bearded guy with grenades, traps and a crossbow. He seems fun too.

Last game I laned vs some guy who sent skulls against me and then sent some weird burning creeps against me. How to play against him?

Also, any good guide to Deadlock in general? Like, how to lane, when to push, when to farm neutrals, etc,
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>>557254490
are you making the character you want to play two notches of priority?
because I select 3, 4, or 5 heroes, and make Mina my double notched priority
and I've had Mina every game for 6 games
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Apollo's ult is the most satisfying ult in the game holy shit it feels so good
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>>557254748
>Mina seems 100% useless - no health, no damage, no nothing.
Future Mina main spotted
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>>557254739
a normal game!! im na
NQ85D
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>>557254239
I asked him to be there
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>>557254837
what rank tho
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>>557254748
Light melee or shoot the skulls.
If they send weird burning green dead dudes running at you it's cause she's made a Tombstone nearby, it needs to be heavy melee'd twice.
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>>557254748
Kill creeps, click on aimlabs dots, when not killing creeps do jungle, once you won your lane you can just go around and join teamfights, but otherwise just farm/push a lane. When bored and unsure of what to do and the enemies are dead/shit do midboss.
Congrats you win.
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>>557254351
Tengu became Ivy
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>>557254837
I will be there in FIVE minutes as I have just woken up, please wait a little!
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>>557254890
im the best rem in the world
idk my rank man im newer but i have played mobas and i've been practicing...
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>>557254748
Graves is Undying/Pugna, you need anti-heal and to pick your fights. Mina is QoP and she's very strong when played well. Don't try and keep a static lane like Dota, always be pushing and applying pressure.
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>>557254748
>Mina seems 100% useless - no health, no damage, no nothing.
Yeah you're for sure getting your egg cracked in a year or two lol
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>>557252886
cool picture, never saw this one.
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>>557254919
What’s the point of killing creeps if you only gold from shooting the orbs that fall out of creeps when they die?
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>>557254795
I'm tryna play apollo since I waited 3 weeks for him but every faggot is playing him despite not voting for him
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>>557255078
When they die they also drop orbs on the ground that can't be denied and you get currency for being near enough to pick them up
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>>557255078
If the enemy kills your creeps and you don't kill theirs then they get free lane pressure and can either harass you under tower for free or run around siphoning up souls from boxes and jungle creeps.
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Why does Billy attract retards so much? I almost want to leave as soon as i have one on my team.
They're wired to keep feeding, it's farm farm, brool brool with them
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>>557255101
ive gotten apollo 3 times back to back without a token. he's not blatantly broken like celeste so he's not getting spam picked
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>>557255101
Doesn't the priority token fill after just one game now?d
i thought someone said that. I assume that's just after a real game and not after a brool.
So hypothetically you could play him every other game... if it worked.
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>Get apollo on my team
>Lose
>Enemy gets apollo
>Win
Sigh I hate shitter tourists
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>>557255285
you should try playing the game with them instead of just idling in the jungle.
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>>557255285
theres something to be said about characters attracting players that are similar, billy as a character and playstyle is complete retardcore
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The game has been crashing way more often after the apollo update
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>>557255361
Look man, is it my fault it's always Billys going 0-7 out of lane?
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>Silver: Ammo increased from 6 to 7
SIX SEVEN LOLOLO
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>Mass reported 1 (one) time by a 3stack of trannies
>2 day mute
if these faggots let this kino game get raped by the trash dota 2 behavior score system im going chud mode
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>Be in enemy guardian range.
>Shoot enemy hero.
>Guardian switches focus to you.
basically dota 2 targetting rules
yay nay?
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>>557255562
I don't get it
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>>557255562
I already made that joke
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>decide to check the backstories after 1 year playing this
>pic related
Nice one Volvo niggers
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>>557255585
Very bad change. If you can’t harass enemy under tower, then there’s no incentive to push the lane, so you just static the lane like in dota. If you just static lanes, then you can’t leave for boxes/ganks, but you also don’t have a TP like in dota. Game becomes very slow until you get the tier 1 down.
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>>557255774
whats his wish gonna be
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>>557255774
Looks like someone couldn't handle The Lash.
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>>557255813
destroying the patrons to save new york to everyone's astoundment
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>>557255813
bebop's mother dies
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>>557255562
You have to be at least 18 to post on 4chan
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>>557255562
LMAO
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>>557255585
I've been wanting it for ages, same with having the Patron actually be somewhat of a threat when people are breaking shrines or taking down first phase.
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If you take the buff while I'm walking towards it or ping it or shoot at it, I WILL run down after you and grief for the rest of the game
I don't care if the game is free, I want you personally to know I want you to suffer and I will achieve that through any means necessary
Rescue beam: Bought
Camps: Pilfered (shoot each creep just once though)
Game: Lost
Kill yourself nigger, that buff was mine
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>walk up to the first tower person thing
>try to parry it
>miss time it and get wacked
>lane partner sees it
im so embarrassed..
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>>557255903
Honestly I feel like her buffs are good enough for now, her gun does more damage and the ult actually triggers in fights soon enough. Only thing is she's still way too easy to kite but you can fix that by being good.
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>>557255917
Zoomers aren't 9 anymore, uncasaurus
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Real Apollo niggas I need some Apollo tips
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>>557255813
I like the theory that he wants to save bebops mom to eternally mog him
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This ixian twink is fun.
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>>557255813
My headcanon is that he is actually a pretty nice guy and The Lash is just his persona, so he'll wish for something good and selfless like curing cancer.
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>>557254748
>Also, any good guide to Deadlock in general? Like, how to lane, when to push, when to farm neutrals, etc,
https://youtu.be/sg4R3ZT_BWQ?t=437
there are no guides for dota players specifically that I know of
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It's weird how early heroes seems to be coherently designed with clear weaknesses ( Vindicta/Miku being flatfooted, M&K doing no damage, Dynamo having two eons of CD for black hole, Lash being committal and reliant on stomp etc... ), like some of these guys are very strong, but you can tell they were designed with a clear weakness to try to counterbalance their strengths.

And then they release shit like Celeste or Apollo who can air stall forever, have insane mobility while also having a disgusting damage output, while also having -100% slowing, while also being above average health, while also having high impact brool ults etc etc etc

It was particularly already noticeable during the last batch especially with Doorman and Billy, but this batch takes the cake, everyone besides Rem is straight up silly.
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>>557256182
>vindicta had a clear weakness


LOL
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>>557256182
>everyone besides Rem is straight up silly.
Rem downplay
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>people are already bored of rem and graves

I knew this shit was gonna happen when the two lamest characters of the batch came first
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>>557256391
I like Rem.
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>>557256182
its an alpha
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>>557256182
they're learning from league balancing. make new things completely broken so people come and play.
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>>557256391
who are these people you speak of? i still like both.
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>>557255803
desu i thought boxes would be the incentive to go for ganks but they're just extra souls when farming between waves
aka boxes suck
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>>557256145
Lash is absolutely playing up his character for kayfabe
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>>557256086
bind 3 to RMB to use your directional mini dash easier
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>>557256434
Venator was and still is doodoo tho
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>>557256182
Vindicta isn't flatfooted. She has beautiful arches. I'd lick them and suck on them and fuck them.
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>>557253460
I dont want to stop playing the hero I actually like and want to be good at. I just played this game with hate in my heart but it was still hairy. Back and forth but honestly the most even match i have played since the update but the difference is stark between Rem and the rest of the lobbiy so if we fucked up a bit more we probably would have lost. I feel like lobbies are balaned around one or two cracked players and the rest of us kinda don't matter.

I mean i get the macro rat strat, i played alot of dota but this game just feels inheritly more frustrating when you are behind because all you can really do is push out and wait for them to do something stupid. There is a huge lack of neutral objectives or comeback mechanics like fortification or outposts. i want to be a proactive player that participates in the big moments of the game. Its difficult to tell when its the right time to do that or when its a total lost cause or you just lose out right because of match making.
I feel like in every game there is a point where I plateau and thats where its lost.
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>>557256182
>everyone besides Rem
baitest post in da tred
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A THIRD GAME IN A ROW I DONT GET APOLLO
FUCK THIS SHITTY GAME
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Should I stop trying to build spirit on apollo and just build spellslinger with gun damage?
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>>557256592
fuck this anons chud life
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>>557256592
I'm sorry anon
but you should have tempered your expectations
wait till tomorrow, or saturday to really expect to get him
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>>557256646
it is revolvting that you gunniggas see a new hero and start trying to make them play as similar to everything else as you can
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>>557256646
His gun is pretty decent, give it a shot. I don't think anyone has a definitive answer on how to build Apollo yet
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>>557256735
well I keep losing when I try to play apollo spirit
I normally play spirit characters
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>>557256592
I got him 3 times in a row without a token. If you whisper "Apollo. Apollo. Apollo" under your breath while searching for a game you're very likely to get him.
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>>557256182
graves is slow as fuck, is clearly limited by her range, and without charges on her 1 has no dueling potential.
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>in infernus los for 30 seconds
>hits me for 300 gun damage
>still gets 1k damage from passive
>he has exactly two purple items
>but he's SO weak and needs buffs badly pls yoshi look at the pick rate
he wasn't using his +37%(!!!) damage amp btw. idk what the fuck people who play this game are smoking. strong characters are weak and weak characters are strong
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>>557253984
Same with Silver
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Why the fuck does celeste still have easily accessible spirit lifesteal and silence
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>>557257060
lol but she now takes 6% more bullet damage!!!
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>>557256592
If it makes you feel better I just got him and my bebop threw the game immediately so I didn't really get to try him. Just wasted my coin instead.
>>557257060
You don't like the braindead face roll on keyboard and hold W for infinite healing, shields and damage?
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silverniggas I suggest you keep your heads down lest you become the next mina, I promise you it will happen at this rate
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>>557257227
w-what happened with mina bro?
should I even ask?
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>>557257285
Mina got milked...
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>>557257285
permanently tarnished waifufag reputation caused by delusional shitters playing an OP hero but too unskilled to realize it
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>>557257227
Silver's rep is already in the gutter. It cannot get any worse. It only get better
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>>557256592
ive gotten to play a new character 3 times since they started
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>"why dould they buff silver shes so broken in high elo!"
>lowest winnrate besides shiv in EVERY rank
>"well shes broken in pro play!"
>100% pick rate, barely over 10% win rate
>in said wins was barely a factor to the outcome of the game
why are these arm chair pros so bent on making it seem like this character is broken?
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>>557254748
Victor is hella fun. You need to be good at farming early so you hit powerspikes before the enemy and then you run them down.
>I laned vs some guy who sent skulls against me and then sent some weird burning creeps against me.
Graves is an annoying bitch to face but remember you can always shoot or slap the skulls. Her ult is a more focus Undying Tombstone sending pic related in your general direction. You have to heavy punch the Gravestone but any Graves worth her salt will sit on top and parry you, so just throw your spells and stuns in her direction and force her out.
>Mina
She's an utter bitch if played right like >>557254985 say she's the QoP of the game, in lane dont let her rightclick you for free Love Bites.
>how to play
Be very aggressive, you always want to push your enemy lane since the T1 tower is a pushover (parry the damn thing)
>crates spawn two minutes in, same with Small Neutrals (try to steal the ones from the enemy)
>Runes at five minutes
>Sinners at six minutes alongside medium Neutrals (also try to steal Sinners or at least break them)
>Big Neutrals at ten minutes alongside the Upper Midboss crates (take them, they're very good)
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>>557257715
My chud demon boyfriend is so cute
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Venatorbros......
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>>557257715
so
>itani = equal
>lo = to me
>san = none
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Is there a way to filter matches by rank
I dont want to watch some seeker niggas
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Silver and Graves were kinda busted on release but some tuning got them in a decent spot. Celeste absolutely needs to get fucking gutted on the other hand. There’s not a single thing she doesn’t do better than other heroes.
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>>557255813
Hog the glory of helping everybody but in secret he wants to be loved. Problem is, he's too deep in the sauce of a heel to turn babyface, this is why he's in the ritual wishing for the turn of the century.
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>>557257807
if you mean the in game spectating, the top of the viewer list is always the highest elo games in NA and EU
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>got venator 3 brools in a row
>won every single one
we're back venatorbros
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>>557256182
>everyone besides Rem is straight up silly.
kys remshill
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>they uglified Silver because some reddit tranny complained
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>>557257956
Her scar is cute
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>>557257956
how will the woke mob pander to Sweet Baby DEI troons next??
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>>557257856
>wants to be loved
>the only one actually into him is a nympho stalker in love with his stage persona
deserved
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>>557258025
My boy Lash only get Freaks on his side.
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I like venator, but I don’t think his 1 and 2 have much going for them. I get more value out of his 3 and ult late game. He feels like he power spikes mid game and then falls off. If you let the game go late and can’t end early you are useless.
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>>557257996
>>557257956
Huh what changed?
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>>557257876
I keep seeing him perform well, did those cooldown buffs change a ton?
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>Silver: Lycan Curse resist reduced from 20% to 14% (T1 from 15% to 14%)

oh so they killed her off, nice.
Silver's main issue was not being able to survive anything in any engagement, why the fuck did they nerf her resistances? Also they made her more ugly because of redditors lmfao
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>just realized this is supposed to be the shop from the old main menu
Neat
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>>557255903
it's genuinely so gross to say you want to have sex with a fat woman

have some standards
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>>557258194
Why did they make her hair less fluffy? Ewww
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>>557258194
What a qt
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Never watching high games played doorman gameplay ever again
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How good is vyper at ratting?
I always love the look of her hyper sliding.
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>>557258194
>It's the same picture
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>>557258194
Uh is that it?
What's the problen she still looks hot.
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>>557258260
Pretty sure her hair is the same, that's just the camera angle
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>>557258191
He feels a lot less clunky and the health buff is much appreciated
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>dlg says Silver got buffs
>look inside
>she got bigger numbers for the shit she doesn't care about and got the thing she cares most about nerfed

I see we're already doing League style balancing where they're trying to make people cope that their character didn't get nerfed by putting the nerf together with completely useless buff. Her shotgun having more max ammo doesn't matter at all, her spirit scaling being better when she builds 0 spirit is fucking useless. And they nerfed her tankyness, which is her most important thing especially in wolf form.
I'm honestly going to drop this game if they're gonna go all in on Riot's way of balancing where they gut heroes left and right while trying their best to convince the community that +1 movement speed is totally enough to make up for it.
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>>557258194
>remove her freckles
>hair less fluffy
>eyebrow scar for no reason
Yoshi is being a fucking idiot, they already got her perfect, stop trying to fix her you retards
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>>557258194
The reddit niggas were complaining about her makeup which is completely untouched
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>>557258218
There will come a time when the map is fully furnished and well have callouts based on actual recognizeable buildings and shops across the map
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>>557258349
to me it looks like they removed a few of her curved hair strands and they made her hair more slick rather than fluffy :(
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>>557258398
What makeup?
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>His last match. He won?
>Activate the feeder teammates.
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>>557258398
her lip gloss was changed for matte lip "shade" and her face looks less clean and pretty
also
>made head proportions less pretty and waifu-like
>they actually made her boobs less apparent on her ingame model
>eyebrow slit for no fucking reason
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can we please start a movement to get the old waiting for players to connect lobby back?
this splash screen is so fucking soulless and you don't get free time to think about your matchups/lane swaps.
the new post game shit sucks ass too, actual form over function.
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>>557257850
what does she do that's better than other heroes?
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>>557258480
They were interpreting the black outline around her eyes (which is supposed to look like a wolf's eyes) as mascara and apparently a desperate barfly like Silver would never wear mascara
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>>557258541
Not your personal army.
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>>557258382
Yeah I don't like what they're doing already with the balancing. It seems they have 0 clues about what characters actually rely on and just randomly buff and nerf stuff. Silver desperately needed way more resistances, not less.
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>>557258535
Can we get an actual fucking model comparison
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This game is never gonna be a 3D DotA/Shooter Hybrid... It's a Shooter with FARTS elements and janky movement...
Guess I'll just stop complaining about it... Enjoy it, ye who can.
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>>557258382
Silver got 1 nerf compared to 7 buffs.
Graves got 5 nerfs and 4 buffs. The nerfs were mostly about duration and ability range, while the buffs (aside from her slight gun nerf) increase her overall dps. I think Graves unironically comes out on top better prepatch especially with the increased scaling on her grasping hands.
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>>557258627
>silver needs more resistances

...why
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>>557258668
You're free to play Smite 2 anon
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I love vyper shes the best
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>>557258668
Dota sucks though albeit
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>>557258535
>made head proportions less pretty and waifu-like
bro she had a bigger head than abrams, she looked like a bobblehead figurine
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>>557258686
>comes out on top better prepatch
comes out on top better than she was prepatch
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>>557258194
So this is the power of getting on the front page of reddit.
Making a discord and listening to the community was a mistake.
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>>557258194
Higher quality image of her new poster
I'm retarded an forgot the image
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>venator shotgun stun range buffed
>stun length almost doubled
>stun range scales with expansion
Im thinkin melee venator is back on the menu
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>>557258806
Wonder why they ditched the freckles.
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>>557258806
not a fan of the scar, not sure if anything else is noticeable, if there's anything they should change it's to get rid of the dumb dog collar.
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>>557258879
>>557258806
Pairs her better with Venator
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Why are people still playing Icefrog's(tm) Forced50 dice roll 3D edition?
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>>557258535
>her lip gloss was changed for matte lip "shade" and her face looks less clean and pretty
>also
>>made head proportions less pretty and waifu-like
>>they actually made her boobs less apparent on her ingame model
>>eyebrow slit for no fucking reason
Looks like Valve listens to criticism :)
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>>557258857
She doesn't get much sun
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>>557258920
cause its still fun as fuck
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>>557258857
>Wonder why they ditched the freckles.
she's a blonde, that's about as far as freckles as you can get
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>>557258686
>>557258687
Silver's main and most desperate issue before today was that she could not survive dives and teamfight engagements despite that being her main role. She was just too squishy in both human and wolf form. Most of the other divers in this game have tools to make them either resist or avoid damage for the start of the fight, Silver didn't. So why the fuck did Valve decide to nerf her resistances in Wolf form, thus making her even worse at doing what she needs to do, and then buff her gun max ammo (which doesn't matter), increaase the spirit scaling on 2 of her abilities (which doesn't matter because Silver does not build spirit), and buff her falloff range (which doesn't matter because Silver needs to be right in the enemy's face to enable her kit).
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You guys are actual fucking schizos im looking at her model ingame right now and barely anything changed
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>>557258921
The criticism was about her mascara/eye shadow though, which is completely unchanged. You can read the reddit thread
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>fed haze is chasing me
>I run directly into my paige and infernus
>both of them don't fucking notice her as she guns me down then guns them down
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>>557258994
>that she could not survive dives and teamfight engagements despite that being her main role

she survives all the time if she actually builds like a tank doe, it sounds like you want her to transition into a semi carry like abrams and we already know he's overtuned
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>>557258806
I hate the new scars, hate the cut eyebrow, hate the removed freckles.
She looks a lot more busy while looking less unique now.
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>>557258816
>use knockdown
>shotgun stun for free blessed melee
>knockdown is autotimed for a free heavy melee
>echo shard shotgun for second blessed melee
im about to make someone very angry
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>>557258668
>FARTS elements
no idea what that is
>janky movement
skill issue
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>>557258921
>would never wear make up
Silver wears makeup to attract shotas so it makes sense.
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>>557258994
>>557259074
Yeah this sounds like a build issue. If you aren't building dual armors on silver your missing something. You can't have your rapid dog shredding people faster than anyone else while also being unkillable.
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Log the fuck on
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>>557259074
I always go tanky lifesteal Silver and trust me its not nearly enough to survive teamfights. The only thing she's good at is raping squishies if they get seperated from their team during an engagement. In 1v1s with tanky or even just mid-tanky characters, she always loses, even if the enemy is behind.
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>>557259230
nigga Im about to go to bed
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>Finally make it into the top rung ranks
>People still abandon in the first minutes
So people weren't lying when they said the trench never ended, huh.
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>>557258921
I fucking hate these people and hope they drop dead, Silver was perfect before, the removal of her freckles does a lot of damage to her face, the scar is ok but completely unnecessary.
>>557259021
There's nothing wrong with it and could be argued that it's just the game's artstyle and not makeup, and even if it were makeup, why would she not wear it? She's a pretty woman and women want to look pretty just as men want to look cool or handsome
The whole point of these critiques is that these "people" hate beauty in any way shape or form, they've demonstrated this again and again
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>>557258921
>girls who would never wear make up
these retards need a reality check
a woman could have her entire apartment filled top to bottom with trash bags, needles, shit piss vomit and semen AND STILL would put on make up before every outing like it's the only thing that matters
even fucking old hags do it like they're 17
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>>557259181
Silver's build needs full tank stats, lifesteal, melee items, some gun items, and mobility items.
Am I the only one who thinks this is too much requirement just so your hero is playable? It makes her midgame feel awful not to mention that what I liked about deadlock is that it had way more build flexibility than other mobas, but at this point most of the new heroes are entirely locked down by item requirements.
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>Get put up against an entire team of smurfs
>Blank steam profiles that arent even a year old but all of them are friends with each other
>Also it was a spanish lobby for some reason so I can't even understand my fucking team (who are also speaking from the worst microphones I have ever heard)
I feel so fucking exhausted, I'm going to take a break from this faggot ass game
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What are some must buys on Apollo
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>>557258857
Made her too cute
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>>557259436
echo shart for his 3
reverb for his ult
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>they uglified Silver
>they nerfed Silver
Is she just gonna be this game's Irelia?
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If you voted with your dick you shouldn't be allowed to play Apollo.
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>>557259389
>Am I the only one who thinks this is too much requirement just so your hero is playable

yes? most abrams build tank items on top of the bruiser items. do you play abrams/billy/mo or are you a waifuist touching a frontliner for the first time?
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>>557259389
protip: the only lifesteal you need is lifestrike. You already massively heal on kill with T3 ult and that can be improved further with healbane. Just build tankier and in ways that adapt to the match instead.
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>>557259436
Counter spell every game, we're parrymaxxing
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>>557259495
I voted for Venator because he is a based tradcath sigma
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>>557259495
My dick voted for Apollo
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>>557258879
>get rid of the dumb dog collar
Why would you get rid of the best part? Are you retarded?
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do you call them
troopers, lane creeps, minions
guardian, tower, turret
midboss, roshan, baron
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>deadlock failed to reach 1.000.000 concurent players on Apollo release
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>>557259495
My dick votes for Venator and Apollo.
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>>557259608
guardians, troopers, jungle creeps
Denizens being the neutrals official names has not stuck with ANYONE i've met and should probably change.
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>>557259389
>Am I the only one who thinks this is too much requirement just so your hero is playable?
No, I've been playing a lot of Silver since she released and she's a lot more tied down to specific items than any other character I play.
Currently Silver is very much a "feast or famine" character, when she's behind she's basically useless because the bonuses she gets from werewolf form don't make her good enough to not get completely folded in a fight.
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>>557259608
candles
tower
meatballs
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>>557259389
Its the thing I hate the most about the newer heroes. The old cast can build whatever the fuck they want pretty much. Newer characters are forced into one build every game.
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>>557259608
The only thing different I do is when I play with my friends I call the minions little robots and I call the jungle npcs aliens
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>minor cosmetic adjustments
>SHE'S SO FUGLY NOW WTF
go look at overwatch and what they're doing to a newly released character
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>go on 8 win streak on Ivy
>she starts showing me her ass on loading screen
oh my...
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>>557259320
>these "people" hate beauty in any way shape or form, they've demonstrated this again and again
I wonder if any redditors have a problem with a tattooed unicorn. Unicorns should be pure and tattoos are the opposite.
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Usually its EU that dominates pro scenes in these sorts of games but this time it's NA, are Europeans and russoids turned off from the troon character designs?
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>>557259809
Silver is certified safe horny. It's over.
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>>557259843
>russoids
Clearly not since they shit up every since fucking EU lobby
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>>557259843
nah europeans in this game are just largely retarded. it's usually nordics dominating but they're all retards on this game. if anyone will pull this shit region out of the ditch it'll be the celts.
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If Silver released like this you idiots would still find her pretty.



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