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Wait there's esports?

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Wiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Game
News: https://dota2.com/news
Patches: https://dota2.com/patches
Updates: https://dota2.com/news/updates
Lore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Lore
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Bug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues
X: https://x.com/dota2

>STATISTICS
https://dota2protracker.com/
https://dotabuff.com
https://opendota.com
https://stratz.com
https://stats.spectral.gg
Personal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/

>ESPORTS
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esports
https://datdota.com
https://dota2.com/esports
https://gosugamers.net/dota2

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Buff Hoodwink
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who should i pick if im at a very chinese time of my life
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is there a way to keep timbersaw relevant as a hero past 35 min?
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crystal maiden
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>removes your character's most picked facet from the game
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
Overwatch devs leave a small explaination under every change in their patch notes. Just sayin'.
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>>557310883
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>>557309990
ember spirit
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>>557310983
You do not deserve to peer into the inner machinations of the frog
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>>557310983
yes anon, op heroes get nerfed
do you really need a letter to tell you that?
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>strafe
>attack fast standing still
>focus fire
>attack a lot while moving
huh????
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PERU
PERU
PERU
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wheres my nyx refresher niggers at
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Marci: Perfection
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>15/0 on Sand King
>My Void comes, misses chrono in a way where I get chronod and enemies don't
>I feed streak to their carry
>we lose
Seems coup in Iran is over?
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>>557315695
I guess the internet blackout was temporary
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>>557310983
Why would anyone rationalize nerfs, Blizzdrone?
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>>557313179
>>557317705
Why do you guys get offended when I suggest that the devs be open about where their minds are at when it comes to the game's balance
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Anyone wanna 1v1 mid? I'd fuck you up without even trying.
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there may be many earths
but there's only one earthshaker
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>>557320171
Because Dota isn't a fucking hugbox, Blizzdrone. Nerfs do not come with apologies or rationalizations. In fact, Valve actively trolls us.
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Fellas please teach me the secrets of how to curbstomp games where people are literally chasing Techies so I don't get queued up with pic related.
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>>557327463
Get good at farming and winning lane and you can snowball and win with all the items, people in low mmr can't lane worth shit
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mason streamed for 2 minutes and then peaced wth please come back mason
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>>557328679
wth
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>>557328549
I will have to check my gold income compared to the rest of the team but my farm was substantially far ahead and I still just can't seem to carry consistently despite winning lane. People make it impossible for me to gank and most importantly don't listen to pings. Maybe I'm not limit testing enough? Last game I was up against an Alchemist and didn't chase after him because I wasn't too knowledgable on him and was scared he could kill me.
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why cant i get the same good team two games in a row? clearly we're better than the competition
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>>557328679
hes back your plea has been heard
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typical carry contribution
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>>557328679
200 viewers rofl
arteezy is gonna make this lil kid go homeless
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what do i do offlane when my support is useless and i'm basically 1v2 without the xp advantage? doesn't trade doesn't pull doesn't block builds core. do i just let the enemy carry free farm?
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>>557330398
you pick someone that can farm and clear wave 24/7
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>>557329623
>Largo hard support a PL
>Versus Razor
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>>557330775
i'm not be able to predict that my level 30 spirit breaker pos4 is gonna be useless and lose us the match
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>>557328679
he hates it so much, I wonder if he wishes he could do something else. he'd be a great analyst but I bet valve wouldn't let him on
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>>557330874
I struggle with that too. I am new to the game but have a decent knowledge of what all the heroes do. The problem is kills that are free in my mind aren't because I'm faced paired with an Oracle that can't press e.
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>>557330874
you always assume 30/70 odds on the support
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mason is offline again
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>>557327463
damn son youre new and already splurged on cosmetics like crazy
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the picks in esports have been mad boring since 7.40 started
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>>557332519
damn son where's your reading comprehension
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>>557332869
i literally dont care about this discussion bro these posts are so boring
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>>557332519
nta but I have less then 50 matches and I have almost all of Marci's costumes :>
an anon in this general showed me a trader who will sell me the ones i am missing (they need to be gifted), i am soexcited :D
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>>557332957
You should learn to read and understand what you are reading.
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>>557333054
i buy the 20 cent sets for characters i play more than once and never more expensive
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>>557333383
i only buy the immortal items that modifiy how spell looks and have cool particles
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>>557332519
>>557332869
I'm not ranked yet but if I can get my mmr off Herald hopefully I'll be able to play games where people are able to read or, even beter, look at a map.
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>>557333651
>can't read
>blames teammates
you belong there
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why is the techster so much fun to play?
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>>557333523
my only one that changes spells is the kunkka whale blade from quartero
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>>557333880
I got the gyrocopter one that modifies his Q and bristleback goo modifier from quartero
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>>557308130
Tangled is a bad facet and I'm tired of people praising it like it's the next Whirlwind just because RTZ used it a couple times playing pos 1 in pubs.

Give WR a real damage facet.
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>>557333703
I don't blame my teammates, most of the time, for losing. I just don't know how to carry them and it isn't fun. I need higher mmr so I can actually learn how to play Dota as a team game.
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>>557334348
Fuck off.
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>>557334376
If you can't get better without getting higher MMR first, then you don't deserve to get it.
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>>557334376
I'll rephrase it a little bit and say I don't know how to carry people that literally want to lose. I need to be a better father because I don't know how to babysit 4 kids who just want to run around all day and get themselves hurt.
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Tobi did nothing wrong.
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>>557334681
Seems partially true but also partially coping. Low mmr disincentivizes teamwork, coordination, and interaction. Outside of csing skills it's a completely different game.
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y'all niggas watched these esports all day with the polymarket crap?
i hate life
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i simply donut care about esports
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>>557334548
no u

Tangled was never good.
Not since its inception.
Not since it got the sad little buffs.
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is this the most BROOOOL meta so far? Every single game is just 5man since 5min into 24/7 broool.
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>>557328679
Bulldog is back on twitch so I don't need mason anymore
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>>557335948
When the enemy is 5-man, they are denying themselves farm. So go split-push and force them to split up, or get free towers/rax out of it.
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>>557335974
are you on birth control medication
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>>557336135
>just splitpush while your entire team dies one by one bro
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>>557336603
Their failure to feed less doesn't mean you should feed in solidarity with them.
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>>557335974
>back to stream 3 games of him playing and then fucking off
Why does he even bother streaming when he obviously hates it?
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>>557336135
>>557336760
just 4k mmr on australia server shit
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>>557336760
Afk farming doesn't always guarantee I will be more fed than the enemy team being given free goal. How do I increase that chances well into a 50/50? And how do you tell when a game is actually unwinnable and the ones that aren't?
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I didn't play vs real people today... I was gonna, but I lost my cool...
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>>557339241
i have done nothing but play mewgenics for 4 days straight, im probably gonna end up griefing on accident when i come back to dota
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>>557340705
erm you're not allowed to complain chud, see >>557324094
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This game lost it's soul after 7.00

That is a fact.
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>>557321586
BRO TAKE ME UP PUSSBOY
https://steamcommunity.com/id/rbm3rd/
FRIEND CODE:41025551
PREPARE TO GET DESTROYED LOSER
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>>557327463
TECHIES IS INDEP[TH AND NOT A GENUINE "TURN OFF MY BRAIN HERO"
PLANTING MINES EVERY 12 SECONDS IS HARD WORK
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>>557344170
I love Techies. I'm contemplating playing him. People don't know that the way to beat him is to just force him to be aggressive and run pipe so you just win by existing.
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>>557344901
BRO TRY HE DOES THE MOST NUKE DAMAGE OUT OF ANYONE. 200-500 THEN A STICKY MINE AND 3 400 DAMAGE MINES AT LEAST. THATS LIKE 2000 DMAGE.
DONT KNOW WHY THIS HERO IS IN THE GAME DESU
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pugna is a boy
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>six win streak
My asshole is officially clenched when queueing.
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When do level 1 Dual Breath Jakiros end? Archon?
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Dota 2 PowerPoints here, thank you very much for your continued support!
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New to Dota and I have some questions.
1. How do you not fall off late game as Razor? I snowball early and mid game but if things go to late game I deal 0 damage.
2. Any guides on how to mentally handle ranked especially low mmr? I don't care about toxicity as much, it's mostly just dealing with monkeys who don't know how their own spells work or Bloodseekers who just run in on 1v5s constantly.
3. Does playing ranked improve your unranked mmr? If not I probably shouldn't touch ranked.
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>>557355668
Razor is Anti-carry. He carries by cucking the enemy carry out of damage. This requires that a fight drag on for a bit. If BKB, AC/BFly and Satanic isn't enough in the late game, them's the breaks. You're not entitled to not fall off.
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>>557355668
areyou getting daedleus as le stealing damage man every game?
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>>557356284
That's good to know. He's played as a pos 1 so I assumed he was much more aggressive. He also is insanely strong in the early game. Guess I can't let games go to late game which is hard in low mmr.
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>>557356893
I mostly go greaves (often just mana boots at first) -> bkb -> items like Yasha or Aghs -> Satanic then utility. It's not been recommended to me so I've never built it, but maybe I should.
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>>557357278
so youre building no damage itmes and literally bitching about not doing any damage?
fuck off newfag
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>>557357010
Yes. By pros, who know how to end games early.
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>>557357771
Is Razor not a good pick in low brackets then? If he is, what do you do when everyone is insanely fed except you? He's the most successful "1v5" hero I've played so far.
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>>557357956
He's a great hero for low brackets, because they rarely understand item timings, or know how to stall a game, avoid fights, and make space for their carry. If they lose control of the lanes, that's it.
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>>557358582
What do you do if your teammates fed people up the ass and you can't afford to chase because they take all the wards and none of the spots you need are warded? Hardest part about playing Razor or any hero who focuses on winning asap.
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>>557359282
Also I realize why this game is so much harder to solo queue in this game. The vision game is entirely dedicated to the support most of the time. The easiest way to win is to have a support that doesn't ward while you do it yourself as a core.
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I have played 3k hours of unranked dota
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>>557363632
Out of my 7000+ matches, maybe 200 of those were ranked mode
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STOP HELPING ME PUSH THE LANE!
Just fuck off!
Do Roshan, creep, stick with your other allies or do a team fight, but LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE!

I am a GLOBAL TELEPORTER! I can summon minions! I can push two lanes at the same time! I don't need your fucking help! I am binding at least TWO HEROES at the same time. If you are doing a team fight, I can always teleport to you! REEEEEEEEEE!
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>>557364521
My games in ranked are genuinely worse than in unranked. I don't know if it's because my mmr isn't calibrated yet so I'm playing with heralds or not but the games are genuinely more skill intensive and with much less salt.
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how come Deadlock had their holiday event removed before Dota?

anyways, I've taken a few months off, anything exciting happen? last patch I played blademail had just been nerfed after being bought on everything.
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>>557368504
its still bought on everything
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what if we stopped building multicast items on ogre like a retard and isntead built phylactery so our point target spells do damage
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>>557364705
I've never had a NP teleport to me to help me. It's always to steal farm.
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>>557371167
Multicasting Sheepstick is actually great, but every dumb core wannabe Ogre doesn't do that. Why is it so difficult to accept Ogre is a lockdown support, like Shaman?

>NO! I must buy Hand of Midas!
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Just tested it - Multicast applies to Phylactery. So if you want to do dumb shit with Fat Chance, you better go for Khanda and Kaya&Sange.
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phylactery necro
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there should be dota+ only queue so we dont get poorfags
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Where is the Marci Valentine's Day event
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>>557374903
that's pennies compared to the hats poorfags splurge on
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>report a guy
>queue single draft on a whim a day later
>he's there
lul
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>>557374903
The poorfags are honestly better than the ones who spend money. At least in low mmr.
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>>557364705
>we need to group
>group up
>we need to group
>group up
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>>557376534
>queue single draft
nobody does this
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>8 game win streak
>mentally prepare myself for the next few games
>zeus mid that is 0/7/1 and avoids teamfights, let every lane get pushed and didconnected after flaming our core for picking a facet he didn't like on it
>our pos 5 was a pudge with 26 deaths in a 35 min game
>next game a np 4 that didn't buy any wards at start, died 5 times in 4 min and proceeds to teleport to their core to feed him gold intentionally for another 5 minutes, then farms a shadowblade and bloodthorn while tryharding and flaming(he didn't get muted)
love how blatant this bullshit is lmao
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>>557382818
do u think it would be fair for that zeus to lose 80% of his games just because he's a bad person with a dysfunctional computer monitor and can only move 2 fingers on each hand because he's addicted to hard drugs? you monster? think about it before you post next time
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>>557382908
He lost his land and kept rage buybacking whenever it was off cd. The enemies rotated lane from lane as a deathball and he was too busy flaming than playing.
Funny how people blatantly shittalking don't get muted but when I try to defend myself I get insta muted.
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>>557383152
>He lost his land
white man came..... from across the sea
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anyone else experience games being more toxic during weekends?

I always manage to get more griefers during saturdays
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>>557385139
weekend warriors come out who dont grind every day, play slightly out of practice and rail off 6-8 questionable games
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>here's your carry bro
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>>557387821
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>>557350802
Good for the level 1 5v5 fight
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>>557385139
weekend shitters only play on weekends and can't take a loss do they sperg out
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my treant has missed ulti 4 times in arow
26 min in he doesnt have a single item
insane for a supp with wave clear
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>>557389802
5 TIMES AND HE GAVE IT TO RUBICK LMAO HOW IS THIS REAL
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>>557390012
6
oh wait 7 he didnt blink and instead ulted the ground instead of the morph with 1 hp
damn
its hard to play this hero huh
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oh razor is absolutely busted btw
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why best of fives
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>>557390720
im not convinced
the hero doesnt scale
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>win one (1) more bo1 than another team
>get 25k+ more guaranteed
this tourney format sucks
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>>557390908
you did the greaves aura built like a dumb retard instead of buying attack speed and satanic
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>>557391209
if they break your link early you are a range creep
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>>557390908
literally has free damage from every spell you just need to buy tanky if you need damage late game you can get that 5th or 6th item
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>>557391353
>he thinks the damage comes from link
i literally just played against a morph and storm and took a dump on them
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>>557391457
you played into a terrible draft
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razor is a pos1 right clicker
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>>557391507
literally havent played this hero im ages and im just first picking it to farm role queue games
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>>557391558
im not saying the hero isnt strong, its just not bonkers busted
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>>557391631
youre dogshit at the game your opinion doesnt count
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>>557391698
>11-9 at blast
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>>557391970
meanwhile treant is 10-3 with 95% p/b
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>>557391970
>94% p/b
wow i wonder if its being let through when teams think they can beat it? still 55% winrate btw
meanwhile huskar is 1-4, are you saying its a bad hero?
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>>557392148
huskar sucks compared to razor or tree
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>>557392148
also the razor was ignored for this match of liquid/og
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>>557391970
because theyre picking it offlane or mid instead of pos1
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>>557392359
his was played from offlane and 1
liquid and falcons played him 3
heroic and navi played him 1
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>>557392716
so whats your point faggot
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>>557392809
that is not a role problem, the hero just isnt over the top in balance as you suggest
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its the jakiro faggot arguing that top 3 picked heroes arent good again isnt it?
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>>557392948
any hero has has multiple top pick counters is not op
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>poo g
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team sweden wins another game
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Eh well dotards. After a good 2 weeks break I'm ready to face my mandatory 3 single draft wins in order to go back to normal matchmaking
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natttea booba
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Razor is trash, simple as.
>muh esports
Don't care, play the game instead of watching other people play it.
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>>557394053
see >>557391558
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>>557392948
people on this thread love to be contrarian for the sake of it and pretend theyve cracked the code and they understand the meta better than people in 5 digit mmr do
the australian autist who levelled ice path lvl 1 on jakiro calling jakiro a bad laner is a prime example of this
it's just that dotards spent 4 to 5 digits hours playing this game yet theyre stuck at ancient/low divine YET they have the sense of entitlement to think they cracked the meta before anybody else
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>>557394080
>low mmr stats
Don't care.
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>>557394053
>Razor is trash, simple as
how so?
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>>557320171
if a hero gets a straight nerfed, it doesn't take a mind reader to realise it means the devs think they're too strong

I would like an insight behind complete reworks though. I'm still sad about the spectre rework and I don't understand the logic behind it. Same with removing illusions benefiting from item passives, but still receiving hero passives.
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>>557394195
you're low mmr
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I hope Razor doesnt get a mega nerf after this.
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>>557395229
Why would they nerf a dogshit hero?
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Single draft games are so fucking dogshit omg
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lelquid
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razor is too strong
that means we're nerfing abaddon in the next patch
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>>557396413
Why are you playing single draft
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>>557397114
low prio for the first time in my life
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nattea rolling with the max sven cleave
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>>557399491
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>>557400651
that's a battlefury at most
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i'm new and don't really know which content creators or streamers to follow but youtube recommended me a compilation of an Immortal rank player named gorge just raging and dying, it was pretty entertaining.
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>>557401179
dota wtf can be funny but shit editing sometimes
esl have good youtube shorts
arteezy and eternalenvy for rage/fail comps as well
lockyplaysdota or makkro if you're coming from league
if you like guys with weird autistic laughs and want to guess if they are posting here dota2powerpoints
otherwise mason when livestreaming
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>natsumi
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what if every single hero got +50 base armor all at the same time
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>>557403510
et instantly banned every game
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>>557394053
Razor is one of the worst heroes in the game, if not the worst.
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>>557401179
dotacinema produces a lot of content, but its mostly just highlights
i like watching jenkins' herald reviews but im a loser
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>>557405041
>53.55% winrate in immortal tho
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that og liquid game is crazy
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>>557405596
He's very very bad. If he's winning then the game was decided without his influence, he's a literal ranged creep.
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>it's the 'x hero is a melee/ranged creep' retard
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>razor is good because... HE JUST IS
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>>557406471
he is good because he is a strong laner and utilizes early defense items well
the problem is trying to end the game
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>x hero has a good winrate on d2pt
>actually he's... BAD!
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I don't think I have the mental fortitude to trudge through low mmr without a friend. Is the secret just to mute everyone and only ping? I know climbing is possible but the level of stupidity just puts me on insane tilt.
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>>557407013
never tilt your teammates by pinging death timers/items and such. this is a game changer in low mmr
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>>557407013
Pick carry or mid
Win lane
Get items
Win game solo
Can't win lane? Get good, you're playing against literal retards
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ez for liquid
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>>557406346
>You're playing 4v5 with a litteral ranged creep
>You're still winning 53% of the time
Yeah i don't think so.
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>>557407674
it's the australian retard
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How the fuck do I counter Phoenix's reduction of my attack speed???? She literally makes it so I can't even attack, what the fuuuuuccckkkk
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>>557407957
bkb
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>>557407112
I can't stand how much I have to baby people in their late 30s and I don't know how people who don't know how to use items are here. I can ping someone to build pipe of insight millions of times but they would rather just lose to magic damage and I have to spend my core slots doing it while they rage at me for not rushing into 1v4s.

Right now I'm thinking either I have to learn the secrets of how to deal with angry children or I treat this like a single player game with 9 bots.
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>>557407340
>carry
its easier to carry from the offlane than pos1 in my experience getting out of low mmr.
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>>557408059
play your own game fag
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>>557407340
How hard do you have to win lane? I can dominate lane vs most matchups but if someone picks something like Alchemist or Brewmaster I will play passive and win through outcsing and eventually taking the turret. Should I not touch ranked until I know every single matchup for one hero?
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>>557407112
>>557407013
strongest spell in herald/guardian is typing "its ok no worries" after someone dies
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>>557408256
If you're herald hero match ups don't really matter, player match up is what matters.
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This slut has her tits out I GOTTA JACK OFF
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>>557408010
ITS THE EARLY GAME YOU FUCKING IDIOT
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this 3-0 stomp by liquid only reinforces that the group stage bo1 was a shit idea
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>>557408545
You didn't specify. That's your fault.
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>>557408506
thank you for the updates on the tittybar
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>>557408319
yup always typing 'its fine' and the well played ping line earnestly is a games changer
you have to mentally coddle them, it's a patience game because while you reinforce your teammates the other side will tilt out faster and eat each other alive
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>>557408545
dodge the skill shot then
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>>557408674
you coddle yourself by doing this too
forcing yourself to be mentally positive and not allowing the tilt to occur
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>>557408576
bo1 was fine for the group stage. it's the top 2 teams going straight to the LAN that's not good.
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>>557408059
if you do >>557408319 and >>557408674 your teammates will be willing to listen to you
I positively reinforce my teammates and make objective calls which then gives me the right to chat 'need crimson on x' 'need a nullifier' 'save buybacks' and they're fine with it and comply
it's all about taking that leadership role and reinforcing the sometimes fragile minds of your little soldiers
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>>557409015
a 2 group round robin bo3 would have justified the direct seed
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>>557408696
>dodge
I'm literally playing against bots that don't miss, fuck offfffffff
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>>557409361
skill issue
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>>557408456
That's how it works for most games. I keep getting told that every hero has a hard counter pick that's designed to destroy them so that apparently isn't true so I play extremely conservative in unknown matchups. I intend to one trick Razor because he seems pretty difficult to hard counter.
>>557408319
>>557408674
>>557409121
I wish more guides talked about this because this is way more important than anything mechanically speaking. I've never used voice lines but I heard quite a few of them cost money. I'm thinking I should try a game just only using those.
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>>557408319
>>557408674
>>557409121
>typing anything into chat so you can get reported
You only need the "Game is Hard" ping at most, and nothing else. I don't even keep "Well Played!" in my chat wheel anymore because of how people use it too much sarcastically so genuine "Well Played!"s just come off as you being a fag.

The people whining about their latest feed and wanting reassurance shouldn't be reassured most of the time. It just makes them complacent or opens you up as a target for venting, and probably blame. Shitters are like children, which means that when they fuck up and/or hurt themselves, they look around to see how they should react. If you make a big deal about it, they'll make a big deal about it. If you keep on trucking, they'll pick themselves up and go back to work. You need to not only treat them like they're fragile, but keep them focused on the proper direction too.
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>>557390720
d2pt shows him 55% wr offlane.
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>>557409652
you're not in the conversation low com score tranny
i communicate all the time and have a pristine behavior/com score because all my coms are constructive. if you cant stop yourself from calling other players nigger just play single player games bro
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>>557409139
of course, but I like the bo1 group stage, I just don't like the top two teams going straight to a single elimination semi finals. Make the LAN double elimination and problem solved.
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>>557409551
just look on dotabuff to see your main heroes' counters (and which heroes your heroes counter)
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>>557409985
its still way too much advantage for winning 1 more bo1 than another team
seeding needs to be determined by a bo3
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i can't even win against FUCKING bots, fuck this game
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>>557410259
I usually first pick because people in this range don't select their heroes on time and I hate losing gold. According to the guide though the worst heroes for Razor are common heroes like Bloodseeker and Weaver.
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>>557410283
Restructuring the play-in so the top 2 teams have to play at least 1 bo3 to get to the LAN would be the best solution.
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>>557410634
>first pick
That doesn't matter. It's about knowing who counters your hero, how they counter you and how to adapt to those match-ups.
>According to the guide though the worst heroes for Razor are common heroes like Bloodseeker and Weaver.
Now think about why those heroes are "counters" to Razor. The thing with razor is he can be played in multiple positions so how relevant a counter is can depend on what position you are in.
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>>557411645
>>557410634
Also losing a tiny bit of starting gold at low mmr doesn't matter. Who fucking cares if you can't afford a single branch.
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>>557411645
They can jump on him and kill him. Weaver can have his bugs tank Razor's ult while Bloodseeker has a long silencer on a hero with few mobility options. QoP just blinks out of his range which is also annoying. The nice thing about them being Razor's hardest matchups is that it means I don't have to be too concerned about niche heroes like Brewmaster completely destroying me.
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dude what if i last pick zeus against riki clinkz its the perfect counter bro trust
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I just played Grimstroke for the first time. This hero is pretty frickin strong!
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>>557308615
Someone here gave me some good offlane advice last thread and I just wanted to say thanks anon, I've been winning a lot more recently
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>>557412482
said no one ever
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>>557412971
I am not that nigga, but i am happy for you, at least someone somewhere is having a good time in this game and not getting perma griefed by both supports picking 0 stuns and save for months now and being lvl 4 at minute 15 for weeks now
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>>557412482
hes pretty cool but i cant stand being the target of that gay fucking ghost move
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there's still something incredibly bugged about clinkz
a skeleton archer is supposed to deal 20% dmg
i have 95 damage block on tide
and i have 40 hp and i die to a fucking nigger
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>>557412971
What was the advice?
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Remember when you could buy rapier to counter pa?
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>>557413819
searing arrows is spell damage
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>>557413819
They count as wards, wards ignore damage block.
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>>557411786
I don't care about it much, but the teammates will. I've learned my biggest issue is probably that I'm too focused on other people and my desire to win depends entirely on how much I respect my teammates, which in this bracket will be very little unless they are actually new to the game and just admit to being bad like in my case.
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>>557409790
Retard. This is how I keep 12k bs/cs.
99% of the things worth saying can be said through pings. Zero point actually typing in game and making yourself a target they can fixate on.

If you want people to gab with, get friends to party with you.
If you want to give suggestions, use pings. Simple as.

Trying to have conversations like "it's okay you fed that fight, I'll still give your boipussy a commend at the end" or "our melee cores cannot face the deathball head-on because of Medusa ult so we need to work together to bait the ult first before committing to a teamfight, or focus on pickoffs" is too difficult for pubs no matter the MMR. If you needed to explain that shit in the first place, they will not understand and/or refuse to follow the plan anyway because it's no big deal we just need more damage and press all our buttons on her first before the ult petrifies you!!!!!, and you're back to square one.
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>>557416423
I've never used automated lines in my life. How do you press them and what are your go to ones?
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dr sulemain habibi ITT
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I'm fucking crusader 1 you fags
suck it
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>>557416423
>Trying to have conversations like "it's okay you fed that fight, I'll still give your boipussy a commend at the end" or "our melee cores cannot face the deathball head-on because of Medusa ult so we need to work together to bait the ult first before committing to a teamfight, or focus on pickoffs" is too difficult for pubs no matter the MMR. If you needed to explain that shit in the first place, they will not understand and/or refuse to follow the plan anyway because it's no big deal we just need more damage and press all our buttons on her first before the ult petrifies you!!!!!, and you're back to square one.
GB2R
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>>557416729
Congrats! My goal is to hit Crusader but I'm not winning enough games in Herald yet so I'm trying to really learn how to win so I can at least get out of Herald when rank calibration ends.
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>>557416712
This meme slaps
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>>557417072
I went from herald to guardian and now crusader
it has been a long and tedious climb but I did it
ironically my last guardian game I played just now was a mirana game and I did not do very well but we still won
hopefully I'm high enough rank now so that people stop calling me a smurf but we'll see
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how do you fix zeus
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>>557417432
I want to skip the climbing process I had to do in League, but this game is definitely harder and more designed as a team game so hitting Archon is more impressive than League's equivalent so I have to temper my expectations. I don't know if League was just so much easier or I simply forgot how to handle low ranks but my current score is 50/50 on ranked and I need to change that to at least 70% and quickly.
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>>557416560
Alt+M1 -> Ping
Ctrl+Alt+M1 -> Don't go there you fucking retard ping (unless you have a Kunkka)
Alt+M1 (hold) -> ping wheel like "enemy ward here", "on my way", etc.

Alt+M1 an item on cd -> "[Teleport scroll] is on cooldown for 5 seconds"

Alt+M1 an item in the shop window -> "I will buy [Nullifier]"
Ctrl+Alt+M1 an item in the shop window -> "I think somebody should buy [Black King Bar]"
Alt+M1 an item in your pre-buy box -> "I need X gold to finish buying [Nullifier]"

Alt+M1 an enemy portrait -> "[Pudge] is missing!"
Alt+M1 a dead enemy portrait -> "[Pudge] will respawn in X seconds"
Ctrl+Alt+M1 an enemy portrait -> "[Pudge] has returned!"

There are also two chat wheels of voice lines you can set in the settings menu. There's a third chat wheel but that's for Dota+ hero voice lines.

The only voice lines you really need in those chat wheels are "Get Back!", "Missing!", and something like "Pulling/Stacking creeps" so your carries don't run up to the enemy tower like retards with no creep wave. Maybe a "Well Played!" or similar. Everything else can be done/said with the ping wheel or default pings.
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Reminder Overwatch got both Valentine's and New Lunar Year events, on top of an original event.
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>>557418338
event slop
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>pos 5 wyvern griefing for 65 min
>lose because he unpauses when anothber nigger decides to dc
i fucking hope these people get shot in ukraine main i cant deal anymore
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ok which website these days tells me which heroes to pick in which roles?
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>>557418082
league ranks are pretty worthless until like mid diamond since nobody has map awareness before that and everyone just wants to aura farm
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>>557418338
why the fuck are you shilling fucking overwatch on d2g it's not even the same genre of games you fucking mongoloid
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this retard over here shilling overwatch, it's like saying you like apples and then someone else says that camaros are good cars, fucking what my dude?
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>>557418835
Nobody has map awareness in here either, but the big thing that makes League easier is that you can actually ward things yourself in that game as a core.
>>557418228
Thank you very much. Is there a way in settings to automute chat? Or am I not supposed to?
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>>557419547
>ward things yourself in that game as a core.
because nobody dewards shit in that game
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>>557419017
$5 have been deposited into your steam wallet
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>>557419869
Perhaps I should learn how the vision game works in this game. Anything you'd recommend?
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>>557412059
>Weaver can have his bugs tank Razor's ult
Just want to chime in that this isn't true, and I just tested it in Demo and Razor ult never zapped the bugs if there are no other targets.

Weaver bugs in general are spell immune. The only way you get rid of them is disappearing from vision (invis, etc.), invulnerability, disappearing from the map entirely (e.g. Astral, or Infest), or right-clicks. Spells and DoTs and auras and shit don't work on them in general. That's why bugs are great and stay great all game.

This is the reason why Weaver has an advantage against Razor. Those bugs require him to right-click them instead of Weaver or another hero in the middle of a fight or else the minus armour will fuck him up. And in this current meta, Mek/Greaves won't purge the bugs or the minus armour until the bugs are gone either (doesn't even reset the debuff, just checked). Plus Weaver has a good chance of escaping Static Link quickly with Shukuchi so Razor going on Weaver is a waste of time even if Weaver is the priority target.
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>shartson
gg
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>>557400651
at least post the good shit
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>>557420142
play some invis nigga and be forced to play ward wars
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>quinny
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>>557413827
As dumb as it is, be an extension of your team. I was given this perception that POS 3 was supposed to be a 7000 HP 30 armor hero that blinked and ulted and won fights single-handedly, but I found myself getting killed despite my high HP and not contributing anything. I realized that I blink and AOE stun not so I can kill and I can have the glory, but so my POS 1 and 2 and 4 can burst the enemy save hero, then the enemy AOE teamfighter, then their glass cannon, all before their POS 3 wakes up. Talking to my team about target priority each game definitely helps.
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>>557422834
This is how I play often, I'm the one going in, CCing and fucking up their team and they blow their load on me. Works well a lot of time.... sadly there's times when you have a pos1 that's never active no matter how long the match been going on or nobody that goes in after you. And those games are super passive and we mostly lose.
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>LD rushed aghs and never farmed with his bear afterwards so he's six slotted but underlevelled as fuck
rip
>>557380456
my friend does and i queue with him
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>>557420468
who took the picture
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>>557422834
Pos 3 is a support role this patch
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everyday blast
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THIS IS MY CURRENT AND WHAT I FIND TO BE THE RELATIVE META/GAME AND HOW ITS A NIGGER AND BASED AROUND FARMING MORE THEN KILLING WHICH IS DOGSHIT: https://youtu.be/ANM4wgLFjkM
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>>557420468
surprisingly nice feet
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what's the better website for understanding the meta, dotabuff or dota2protracker? or something else?
I've been gone too long I don't know what to pick or what key items to pickup.
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Are people irl as stupid as in this game?
People here like to shit normies a lot but I've never felt presence of stupidity near other people like I do in DOTA, wherever I was, even dumb people can be interesting or have shit to say.

But in my thousand games I am the only one that genuinely shared thoughts about the game and why I think my decision was right when I get flamed. People in this game are so miserable and only pin blame and flame.
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>>557409652
>>557409551
instead of well played its way better to just throw out high fives
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>>557416423
>in a permanent fear of losing behavior/com score
>i have a pristine score though!
you're a joke of a poster. day in day out you just churn out bullshit and expect people not to notice how much of a faggot retard you are
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>>557425246
>guardian after 12k hours of dota
how the fuck does that happen tranny? You're queuing on US servs too
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pos3 is the "blame role" if a game goes bad now
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>>557427436
That has always been mid.
>t. mid
Or this is confirmation bias cause we play that role.
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>>557420468
one of my coworkers has an instagram pic like this that has seen so much action
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played a game of dota today, lads
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>>557426737
u mirin?
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>>557427436
valve made pos3 the grief role, it was already kinda like that but now it's official
rape and behead every weaver picker who isn't playing carry
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you know pos3 as a role is in dire straits when this is the meta
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>>557430163
largo is so busted its not even funny
you need pipe shivas and shit to just deal with the damage and heal and then he still has +30 armor like wtf
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>>557430347
It's funny as shit how he went from useless to cancer as soon as people started rushing Aghs on him. Retards kept building around his shitty innate.
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>>557430163
How the fuck is Largo 55% winrate? All he does is sit around and feed.
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i wish i had someone to play party ranked with nowadays
why are people in general so content with being stuck in ancient tier matchmaking while still having 10k hours in dota? fuck man it cant be that hard
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>>557418814
razor as 1 2 3
shadow demon or treant protector as 4 5
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>>557431259
They don't care. My 1k retard friends probably enjoy the game more than I do.
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>>557431518
mm i think they do with how much they complain about their teammates
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>>557431595
Good players whine a lot more than shitters do.
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>>557418776
SAME Ukrainians are the worst omg
I just rewatched that replay from when the Ukrainian Lifestealer on my team denied my Aegis of the Immortal. Man, I'm tilted all over again!
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>>557426874
LMAO BRO CANT NOT SHITPOST? STFU AND TALK ABOUT THE META. CANT GO A POST WITHOUT SAYING TRANNY? OH BOY..... .... ... .................
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>>557426363
if your rank is low enough you will be matched with dudes who have played juggernaut for 15 years and just want to play more juggernaut
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Nice "Event" leak dotards.
Glad to know your game is alive.
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>>557429076
what game did you play lad
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What's a little frost amongst friends?
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why would watson pick terrorblade
isnt the hero worthless now
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>>557434509
dota mate
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tb does 0 damage now holy fuck
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>fight starts at tormentor
>ends at dire mid t3
fuck this meta really
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i hope mason streams today!!!!
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lole navi
very lucky
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holy throw
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Nattea looking like a delicious whore
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>>557430465
It's high rank pubs where people can actually end the game before he becomes shitty necro
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member when people said PL was OP and then everybody forgot about him a week later
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this game brings the worst out of me I'm a prisoner inside my head and this is what my sentence is I'm always better off doing other things but I keep ending up here because it's what I deserve I'm a subhuman and I belong inside this stupid made up limbo I'm too fucked to try and blend in with real people I tried over and over and every failure traumatizes me
I don't even want happiness just let me feel ok for more than a week without taking it away from me and making everything worse in this fucking infinite loop what a joke of an existence what is the point of this shit
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>>557441507
i play pos 3 too
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well it was a good run navi
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did we like the bo5 single elim format?
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Alright it's been a few times that I see a radiant player body block the creeps of the dire safelane at game start, without being attacked. How the fuck does that works?
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>>557442518
first wave doesn't aggro because people were creeppulling too much
honestly can't remember exactly how it works, but it's something like that
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>OG lost 0:3
Did they get RTZ to sub for them
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>>557442738
nah this new og has been like that every tournament
own during grop stage and then get eliminated instantly
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>let's go on huskar!
>let's go on huskar!
Just fucking wait for ice blast, what the fuck
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why would a mid lane windrunner not take kill shot against huskar?
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>Fail to armlet toggle on rosh
That's it, i'm as skilled at huskar as a pro.
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wouldn't you go kill shot vs huskar
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yandex are mindbroken. thats too bad, i like watson
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>>557443317
>i like watson
Why
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>>557443391
hes good at the videogame
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>>557443317
their standin sucks
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>>557443208
>>557443269
Tangled facet is the new FOTM. See people like >>557334548 who love it to bits.
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Why yes, I think I will pick Leshrac position 1 and jungle farm for 20 minutes and ignore all the pings from my teammates
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must say its pretty enjoyable not playing dota sometimes
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>>557444152
whoops image
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Saksa's verterbrae found in a dumpster
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>>557444060
i would just think killshot is so good that you'd take it.
huskar is the hero windranger has the biggest winrate advantage vs and with killshot 70% pick rate i think that's the biggest reason
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>>557444060
I thought I was missing some weird interaction between the two heroes. Doesn't kill shot also go through shallow grave?

This would not be the first time pro or high ranked players have their own meta even though what they are doing is stupid and bad. If I gambled I'd be murderously angry right now.
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>>557444376
well windranger already had 2% winrate advantage in the patch before killshot so it's not all because of that facet
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>>557444376
her entire kit is anti huskar
evasion, single target focus ulti
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>>557420241
>Weaver bugs in general are spell immune
Thanks for informing me. It seems like a mix of QoP and Bloodseekers reasons then. Knowing this will make the matchup easier, though I've never had to lane with one yet since I typically go mid.
>>557420802
I'll try it. It will likely me be a lot of feeding so I'll mess with unranked. I feel like I simply have less control over warding than I expected.
>>557426460
Only works when you're next to them, but I agree.
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How do you play brood this patch? seems like every game my team just feeds too while i farm my lane.

yet she still has a high winrate in higher brackets
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isnt huskar + centaur aghs a fucking broken combo?
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DotA is so fun, I wish I could play it. I hate the bots.
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>>557444701
Cart is fair and balanced
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>>557444616
brood has low pickrate and is played primarily by hero specialists
but eh i dont really know what tricks they got. you can't even watch high mmr games anymore otherwise i'd suggest that.
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ya winning your games there?
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does static link attack through mars walls?
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>razor is a bad hero
t. australian jakiro hater
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What do I play if for example I wanted to play Dota 2 but don't like competing
Like Diablo 4 or PoE or something?
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Is yandex just a mars and an AA
I haven't seen the other two cores do diddly dick for the last 15 minutes
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>>557445461
Do you have social anxiety, too?
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>>557443930
malik had great games, he went beast mode on game 4 even though they lost
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kez is such a meme hero
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>team with saves shits on team with meme cores and no saves
Draft diff bg
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>>557445570
Yeah, but I want to play Dota 2, because I like all the mechanics and interactions and numbers and scaling, but I want the scaling to be long term, not short 40 minute games, more like 400 hours. Like imagine a game where you pick a handful of skills out of 400 skills and passives to pick from, and hundreds of items with different passive stat boosts, and you can keep iterating and refining your build over the course of hundreds of hours and the scaling never quite ends because you can always get better item drops with better stats
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>>557442458
its a loooooong day
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>>557445570
Nta but it has less to do with social anxiety and more Dota promises a 5v5 but is most of the time a 1v9 without an extreme climb. I don't know if I have the heart to pass through the gates and play an actual team game.
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>>557445923
there's a billion roguelikes to pick from
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honestly i'm too anxious to play core
can only play carry and mid when i take some benzos
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>>557445912
centaur aghs feels like the most broken shit in the game
probably best save? only bad thing is low cast range but it has so many upsides like the target being able to dps while invulerable and you can just run away hasted as well. and then you can also just use the cart for a self haste instead of wasting ulti.
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>>557442458
yes it’s better
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>>557446107
youre not invulnerable but untargetable
area spells still damage
but yeah it's too strong, cart and ringmaster box are too good
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>>557445461
Welcome to my world. I want to play dota I just want it to be to be a 1v1. Blizzard fucked up the Warcraft 3 remake, and that was probably the closest we could get to 1v1 dota. There are not other games out there that have the same quality as dota 2. So you are just out of luck. And it seems like 1v1 games are going the way of the dinosaur, everything is team games now because everyone wants to be social or whatever.
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>>557445404
He's the guy who calls every hero a melee or ranged creep and who's like Ancient on australia servers which is pretty much EUW archon. Just a contrarian autistic freak amongst many
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>>557446403
that was changed almost two years ago.
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>>557446107
It's not even that it's broken, though it is, but even dazzle killed their early moves because kez wr mars are all one pump chumps that all had to turn tail when grave came out
They grouped as 5 mid, pressed all their buttons on the huskar that was balling out of control, dazzle pressed 2, and then they overcommitted, ate a bushwack and got punished (and no huskar kill)
Repeat until the end, where it was centaur with aghs parading a razor with focus fire wasted while he's in the cart killing your WR
Only OG can play WR core apparently, or it's just watson chira being shit
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>>557446529
Yeah, a 1v1 Dota would be great
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>>557447385
you guys know you can make custom games right
1v1 mid is a thing
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>>557446030
They all suck tho
There's a few I like though, like Overlooting, Mega Loot, and Dungeon Exile
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>>557447454
yes I know but 1v1 dota as in it being a proper rts, a fully fleshed out game, not just hitting creeps mid, anon. I thought me mentioning warcraft 3 would get that idea across.
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>>557432473
Then they should act like that.
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Did the thread bully finally leave?
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>>557449941
thank you for announcing your presence
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when are they deleting kez
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so what's the point of pos1 these days? it's never top damage. is it just to hit buildings?
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>>557452030
I might drop carry and just stay mid. Carry kind of sucks for solo.
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>>557452030
you need a guy that just werks in case you miss everything
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>>557452271
I used to like mid but I'm too washed up.
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mid is the only role i can play because of my social anxiety
having a lane partner is just.....aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAHHH
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>>557453095
I can never tell if posts like these are satire.
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Is there a way to get back at a group of dota bullies? They made me play pos 5 for years and made fun of me.
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>>557427436
I donno, lots of games where the mids are just totally useless and kind of feed but nobody ever complains about them.
But when I play pos3 and doesn't rape the enemy carry out of the lane, despite the fact that he counter picked me, isn't the most farmed player in the game while I'm suppose to create space and gank 24/7 people always seethe and whine.
Oh and you're also suppose to build 3 aura items, blink and win every team fight.

Mid feels more like a pos4 now, they can just play whatever they want and do whatever
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>>557453636
you have to pretend to be a woman and seduce them, let them pound your ass, and then laugh at them for being fags and having sex with men.
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>>557453497
satire of wha
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>>557453786
I can never bully the pos1 out of lane as pos3 unless my pos4 gets me like 4 kills before level 6.
I know I'm bad at laning, but am I really that bad?
I always have to run to the jungle at level 3 as pos1 or pos3 unless my support gets me lots of kills early.
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>>557454335
Could be that you are bad at laning BUUUT also keep in mind that most of the time the enemy carry can pick after they see your pick, so they can easily counter pick you.
AAAAAAAAND pos4 players are the literal scum of the earth so there's a chance you have a pos4 that does nothing in lane except stand back and leech EXP.

Pick heroes like cent and axe is such a risky move now as they are so easily counterpicked
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>>557454769
I like LC but I play the greedy facet to help my team scale which also makes lane harder.
but having a 200 hp shield isn't going to help me stay in the lane when my pos4 is gone. last time they left at minute 1 and didn't come back until 5 minutes, died, and then never came back.
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>>557454335
just pick an offlaner that has a built in flashfarm spell like centaur, axe, underlord because offlane is the autolose lane right now, carries are overtuned particularly ranged carries and heal supports are in so they almost always win the sustain battle
get your pos4 to drag waves or do it yourself or be ready to farm camps and wait for the wave to be under your tower. Or just play another role lol, I'm tired of offlane too
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>>557451235
but anon told me kez was shit!
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>>557456849
Kez is retarded, went mid against him as marci and got my shit kicked in, most fucking braindead retarded hero in the game.
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>>557457083
he is just the latest anti-melee hero
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I got placed crusader 5
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>>557459392
congrats
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Which heroes would listen to death metal?
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>>557462347
Doom.
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speaking of doom, i've played him twice now, could someone explain why no matter what creep I eat, nothing shows up on the skill bar and I don't gain any abilites or passives?
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>>557465325
turn off alt cast
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>>557465509
i dont know what that is
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>>557465724
the glowy border thing. just read the spell description
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>>557466089
could not have been a less helpful post
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>>557466221
so i misspoke, turn on alt cast would be correct. but really now just a quick skim and your problem is solved innit
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>>557466767
I
once again
DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS
So I have to hold control every single time I press Q?
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>>557467047
i dunno what your settings are. just right click it
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>>557467181
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>click your abilities
What the fuck is wrong with this hero
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>>557467047
>>557466221
kaya yasha sange
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>>557460895
Thank you I have been queueing for all roles and getting offline 90% of the time. Im a sand king spammer now
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>>557466767
Alt + Q to toggle, then press alt + Q whenever you don't want a new ability.
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>>557453497
Just treat everything seriously. Giving the "merely pretending" crowd shit is trivial.

Also, I don't role token mid, because it's fucking soul draining to watch both the side lanes give up two kills each before five minutes.
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need QoP main gf
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Is Wraith King a respectable hero pick?
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why the FUCK is everbody going Radiance on Abaddon now
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>>557468636
Yes. In what position?

Just build Armlet instead of fucking Radiance, for fuck's sake.
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>>557468864
But the Youtube Slideshow man said-
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>>557468976
SHUT
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>>557468864
you mean Midas instead of Radiance.
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>>557469349
(You)

Buffing Radiance was IceFrog's biggest mistake.
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>>557468636
No.
Skeleton King is, thougheverbeit.
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>>557468839
see: lifestealer
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No bullshit. No hurt feelings. Just facts.

Which games is harder: Dota or Deadlock?

Elaborate.
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>>557470970
Deadlock. it's not even close.
it's also way more fun. it doesn't launch on the Steam Deck anymore though so I'm visiting Dota again.
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>>557470970
deadcock is twice as sweaty but probably not too hard if youre a shooter guy because spells are pretty standardized
so about the same i guess
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>>557470970
Deadlock, not even close.
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>>557471283
>>557471479
>>557471501
Why? Is it just because of the aiming aspect? What about all the different mechanics and interactions that dota have that deadlock doesn't. To me, deadlock just feel less intellectually demanding. Like there's a lot more downtime because less is happening. But that's just how I felt when I played it a couple hours then uninstalled because I just hate shooters, and never cared about them. Like to me it is 100 times harder than dota because I'm just not good at shooters, but if I already played shooters, I don't think it'd be an issue to me.
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If dota was alive it would have 3 or 2 seasonal updates per year.
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>>557471787
No, because of Map knowledge and character movement, its basically 3D Smash bros with dota
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>>557471846
what qualifies as a seasonal update? there were 3 number patches last year
7.38, 7.39 and 7.40
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>>557472167
Seasonal rank reset/Improvements to Rank system.
QoL/Bug Fixes
Balance updates/Map Updates.
Hats implemented into gameplay as rewards other than just "grind 300 levels of points lmao"
Maybe some new features thrown in.
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>>557472558
then all those qualify
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>>557472654
No because Dota patches don't improve on anything they just add shit on top of shit and maybe shuffle shit around.
No rank resets either.
Also 7.38 to 7.39 was 3 months apart. and 7.40 was almost 9 months later.
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>>557471954
>Map knowledge
In what way is it harder or more complex than dota's map? To me it feels like dota has a lot more going on at a time.
>character movement
In what way? How is it more complex than smite or paragon for example, when they both have 3d movement. Well smite is 2.5d, but paragon has 3d movement, but I wouldn't say paragon is even harder than smite because of its 3d movement.
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>>557472884
>No rank resets either.
What's the point or rank reset? Does chess have rank reset?
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>>557472954
>In what way is it harder or more complex than dota's map?
In the fact its actually 3D and you only have limited field of vision due to TPS camera, the buildings surrounding you, the fog walls blocking you, theres also verticality, something dota doesnt have because its top down.
>In what way?
Its comparable to quake, theres momentum, slopes alter your speed when sliding for example, you can bounce off walls, theres jump pads, theres air dashes, theres some tech you can pull off via using the melee mechanics too.
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>>557473072
Dota ain't chess so not sure whats your point here. Chess is always chess. so it makes sense.
Dota changes and shuffles its shit every year, why wouldn't there be a seasonal reset?
it would also fix MMR inflation.
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>>557473356
resets are garbage
its chaos for 3 weeks then you end up at the same mmr
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>>557473160
>Its comparable to quake, theres momentum, slopes alter your speed when sliding for example, you can bounce off walls, theres jump pads, theres air dashes, theres some tech you can pull off via using the melee mechanics too.
I see this makes sense. I guess paragon doesn't have any of this, even though it has verticality.
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Who calls the Dragon Knight?
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>>557471787
>What about all the different mechanics and interactions that dota have that deadlock doesn't
like?
>deadlock just feel less intellectually demanding. Like there's a lot more downtime because less is happening
Deadlock has so much more going on than Dota and it's way more engaging.
I don't know what you were doing to feel the opposite.
>I just hate shooters, and never cared about them
well that's it then.
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>>557472954
the map has more going on than fog of war and tree lines. you also can't ward.
if smite and paragon were good then they would be popular. since nobody has ever played them they must be bad. the movement in deadlock is as simple as running around with WASD or getting into physics and calculating your momentum vectors based on the forces you and your environment are applying.
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Normies who've never touched a video game will piano 5 buttons at once just to run slightly faster in a shooter but the moment the game becomes 2d and has quarter circles video games are just too hard
I dont get it
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>>557475645
thats just americans who cannot into videogames
thats why NA dota scene doesnt exist.
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>>557475994
NA competitive scene doesn't exist in any game though?
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na captain won ti
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Should kunkka be reworked? He doesnt do anything
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>>557479167
shut up tide
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>>557479167
The only change I want is to bring back his old water park aghs
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>>557479167
one shotting people was always bad design
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>>557475362
>like?
Everything related with wave management/aggro/equilibrium/pulling/blocking.
aghs
controlling other units/illusion
warding
buyback
courier
turn rate
day/night cycle
a lot more timers to keep track of, especially the fact that you can't stack camps, so missing their timers is more forgiving
Those are not all necessarily hard, but they do add a layer of complexity and stuff you need to keep track of mentally.
That's why I was saying above that I felt like there was a lot more downtime in deadlock, where I could turn my brain off. Now, I only played for a couple hours, which is why I'm asking people here for their opinions, because I couldn't really form any opinion in a couple hours.
>Deadlock has so much more going on than Dota and it's way more engaging.
I don't know what you were doing to feel the opposite.
like?
>well that's it then.
yeah, but you're saying there's more going on in deadlock, surely it's not the fact that it's a shooter. I'm talking mostly in term of macro. Is deadlock as macro intensive as dota? Most of what I mentioned above is macro, and it's why I felt like deadlock didn't have much going on and I could turn off my brain.
>>557475641
I see.
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>>557473356
>Dota ain't chess so not sure whats your point here.
My point is that I'm showing another competitive game with no mmr reset, and it works just fine there. Nobody ever asks for a reset.
>Dota changes and shuffles its shit every year, why wouldn't there be a seasonal reset?
Why should mmr and gameplay changes be related, where getting some gameplay changes should affect your mmr?
>it would also fix MMR inflation.
why is that an issue?

You're just mentioning problems, but you're not explaining why they're actually problems.
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>>557475362
Deadlock doesn't have much more going on if you think going around the map hitting boxes is more engaging than fighting for wisdom lotus tormentors stacks I don't know what to tell you

Deadlock is easy as af to play you legit just farm take one or 2 good fights mid boss then end because it's impossible to fight into them with 3 Roshan revives
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>>557481919
chess doesn't have double downs inflating mmr and warping what mmr actual measures.
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>>557481032
brother you are literally the equivalent of herald in deadlock. taking smoke breaks during your match and buying 6 rapiers on sniper.
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>>557482128
people do not do any of that I'm now divine after returning from a few months and wisdoms would sit there for the full 7 minutes if I don't claim them and tormentors do not get killed.
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>>557482128
hitting boxes as you move between lanes is much more engaging than a+clicking a neutral camp, yes. also because movement isn't just right clicking the minimap and gooning to your second monitor.
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>>557472265
>9 deaths as a character that can get value just by standing in the backline
i'd be tilted too
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>winning streak
>losing streak
>abruptly ends, despite the muted idiot, and role abusing "supports"
Damn.
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>>557486671
legit the most worthless mid ive ever seen
and this was a win too
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>>557486671
>>557488054
Pros ruining your pubs, m9? Again?
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timbersaw is kind of a grief pick because hes a pos 3 thats not a stunbot but hes still my favorite guy and everything he says is a fact
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>>557488562
>can nuke people 70% of their health up until carries hit
>muh 3 cant do nuthin
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>>557488795
yea the thing you have to do as mimberdaw is win your lane (viable) and then scream into your microphone for 20 minutes and hope that your teammates knock down some buildings with you so that the enemy carry doesnt get to press bkb because none of the rizzler's spells work past bkb (which is REALLY FUCKING WEIRD considering every other spell at least does damage during a bkb now)
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>kill enemy midlaner five times before minute 11, zero deaths on my part
>enemy team has higher score because side lanes fed
okay... am i supposed to rotate the moment i hit level 6 or something? these ppl need babysitters?
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>>557486452
Next game.
I got a 3 man dunk on Axe only for my team to let the critical health Venomancer escape and then get pretty much solo'd by Bounty Hunter.
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>>557489546
>0 0 1 2
oh my fucking goddddddddd get a killlllllll
>14 deaths
buy glimmerrrrrrrrr oh my goddddddd
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>my pos 1 lastpickspicks aba
>against already visible viper, hood and willow
>he afk farms for 40 minutes to get 6 slotted then gets kited to death every single teamfight
amazing how people kneecap themselves and you're flamed for them sabotaging themselves
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>>557489486
update: i went 18-3 and lost ._.
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I'm glad Grubby died.
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>>557475290
I haven't played Dota 2 in a year but I still sometimes randomly say different voice lines from the heroes like that, lol
I was just walking around making my hands make a cup around my mouth and saying "ROGUE KNIGHT CLAIMS ANOTHER."
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was having a good game then bam my carry disconnects for 5 minutes
i dont wanna play anymore i need to uninstall this so the temptation isnt there
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>2026
>tiny presses stun and toss at the same time
yeah thats an avoid
fucking brain dead nigger gave up a kill on a supp because he has no idea how the game works
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>>557495383
can you tell us whats wrong with pressing stun and toss at the same time i mean i know whats wrong with it but like for the class and all the people in the back who dont know haha
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>>557484337
I know, which is exactly why I'm asking here for people to explain. You didn't answer any of my points though.
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buy BKB
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>>557498116
no, bkb is a cancer upon this game since its release and should be removed
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>>557498163
so true suppsis
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>>557495616
avalance hasnt done double damage in like a year and the stun is an aura that cant be bkbd or anything so the combo is avalance, hit, toss, hit, throw tree
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lost another won game because of terrible fucking russians
im so sick of these niggers its not even fun playing dota anymore
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>getting stomped
>lv26 mid doesn't have a single dispel
>dies a few times
>win
whooooaaa
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is there anything i can do against dusa as a spellcaster like zeus or timber?
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>>557499149
>zeus
disconnect and give your team gold
>timber
dive her over and over min 5
or
dive and bait ult
or
kill everyone else first
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>>557499149
Whenever I play against Timber and often shut him down early on he just doesn't care, scales in HP, does giga damage and is almost unkillable unless focus fired. They took 3 strength from him and he still looks completely broken.
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>play hc
>if i do not get more than 15 kills its insta loss
>if i die more than 6 times its insta loss
>it doesnt matter you passed the check, you can still lose the game

>play support
>just right click the guy on the enemy team
>buy no wards because the other guy hoards them
>6/7 in the end
>easy win
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>>557498116
not yet
*continues shitting myself*
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>>557472265
as a turbo cm spammer builds like this piss me off so much

no shard
aghs with no bkb, no shard
mjollnir for literally no fucking reason
kaya sange just taking up a slot really not doing anything
also greaves are dogshit on cm you will just die from full hp anyways especially against that lineup and especially when you get arrowed
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getting btfo'd by sky and nyx feels shameful
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unfortunate my last pick necro player got huskar'd
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bkb should apply a dispel at the end
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what if refresher worked on buyback
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what if using refresher added 500 to your buyback cost with each use
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>>557503309
I heard it kinda worked like that in the past. Debuff immunity in general.
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i cant do anymore offlane role queues
someone delete this role from the game please
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>>557505119
no you just couldnt target them with spells and items unless it's bkb piercing
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>>557505268
Rtz said once you to time for example MK stun to tp cancel, you couldn't do it on BKB'd target because then the effect wouldn't be "in background" like it is now.
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>>557505592
because they're not affected at all
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>>557505191
What\s so bad about the role? To me offlane is an untouchable structure on the map that you have to commit 3 heroes to kill or he'll just sit and farm enemy safelane and push the wave into t2, and if you rotate heroes for him he just made a lot of space for his entire other team.

A lot of offlaners can even kill you 1v2/1v3 in the early midgame.
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>>557503309
this would defeat its nerf to have spells pierce it
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>>557505631
I think it's more low skill to have it like it is right now.
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>>557505873
that's the point
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when should i pick greedy enchantment? im in herald and idk if it should be picked when ahead or when behind
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>>557506252
pick if if you are a support
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>>557443930
>get carried by your standin doing godlike mars performances
>this guy sucks t. retard on d2g
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>>557505707
>YOU MUST PICK LE BAD BIG STRENGTH LANER AND BUY PIPE
miserable fucking experience every time
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>>557507793
Just play zoo?
>inb4 no micro response
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>>557507901
grats you suggested the only worse type of gameplay
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>>557506775
i keep picking it on timbersaw everytime it pops up, it's literally free gold
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i set aside a couple hours this morning to play a match with real people but i'm losinggggg my cool
how do i calm down
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>>557508117
Just play
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>lose my lane because my 4 is a wr missing powershots
>get flamed by my team
>answer with maybe if my support landed his skills once, it would be a better outcome
>muted instantly no warning, -1k comm score
>russian screeching in voice chat doesn't get muted
gotta love this system, have to be a wholesome chungus boy never answering flaming if you're doing bad to get mass reported
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Nice DSL’s on Nattea
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>>557508856
im queued...
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>>557468839
bro is 10 months late
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>>557509790
You can do it!
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>>557502575
Whens the best time to get shard? Its great for farming/split pushing but I find it hard to justify in a close game over another proper support item.
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>>557510516
in turbo, as soon as possible.

its your best farming tool, you can kill a whole creepwave, and whole camp(incl. stacked) - Q'ing it as well. you can drag two camps close, shard and q.
it also allows you to 9 sec root people as early as level 7 with maxed frostbite.
theres also the dodge component. can dodge stuff like pudge hook, sniper ult, push yourself out of clock cogs etc. playing near cliffs/terrain changes you can also push yourself uphill with it.
also, when you ult, you can shard immediately, then it will frostbite people around you. also very important against rubick as you can shard immediately so he never steals your ult because if he does you will probably lose that fight

in normals/ranked you should be torming for it because you should be buying other stuff, but its a core item on the hero. if people are playing without it i dont think they really understand what it does.
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damn they actually start on time
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>>557498268
>avalance hasnt done double damage in like a year
oh shit I didn't know they changed it.
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>>557511193
I should have clarified I meant in normal/ranked. Turbo it's an absolute no brainer as far as I'm concerned.
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>>557505707
like who?
I'm getting my shit stomped as LC.
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>>557510503
it was horrible it was horrible it was horrible it was horrible
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only 2 low prio wins to go before i'm back in gen pop
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Im only lvl 58 on this season's quartero dotards. dont think i'll get the lvl 100 axe before it ends
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so whos the real secret op hero
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>>557513573
Disruptor
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>start game
>internet goes down
>phone out of contract
>by the time i set up tether I already got an abandon
>rejoin at minute 13 at still at level 1
>win
I got issued an abandon, my 6th ever out of 3000+ games but it was nice
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>>557496074
yeah because they're stupid, but now I'm not busy and I'm bored.
>>557481032
>Everything related with wave management/aggro/equilibrium/pulling/blocking.
there is wave management but it's only done in high levels just like dota. people are not tower skipping and dragging waves around outside immortal draft/comp. I'm the only person shooting troopers from other lanes off the zipline when inside their base, just like I'm the only person in dota who grabs spawning creep waves of other lanes when in their base.
>aghs
added variety to a 15 year old game
>controlling other units/illusion
nobody likes playing chen, and you can't micro like that outside RTS. there was an illusion hero in neon prime (original deadlock) so maybe
>warding
legacy mechanic, not needed
>buyback
shit mechanic makes games last 20 minutes longer than they should. I like the current reduce respawn timer when they weaken your patron more.
>courier
legacy mechanic and no need
>turn rate
you think your movement is complex because your hero takes time to turn? lol
>day/night cycle
legacy mechanic, but I could see it being added
>a lot more timers to keep track of, especially the fact that you can't stack camps, so missing their timers is more forgiving
runes (exist) wisdom (like urn) jungle timers, roshan (mid boss)? stacking sucks and is a bug turned into a feature which is why they nerfed leash ranges.

lots of things in dota are the way they are because that's how wc3 was. I've been playing dota since 2003, before allstars (probably before you're born my steam account is old enough to drink and probably older than you). if you could've seen the way the game and community evolved over time it would change your perspective.
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>first low prio game of the gay
>mid anti mage has all the wards on quickbuy, doesnt even plant them
its over
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>>557513879
thats not a secret
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>>557514436
Every time he stop being a highly contested pick he gets stronger as people forget how to play against him, thus making him a secret op hero.
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>>557513971
when I think back to how inconsistent Starlink was a year ago when I first got it, to how smooth it is today, it's crazy. I was getting dropped once every 3 matches, or when playing wow I would be disconnected once every 2 hours. I also had to use the low quality network setting.
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Clock pos3 is underrated
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lelquid 3-0
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>>557516086
isn't he just a support now?
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odpixel looks like a fucking gourd with pubes
the fuck is that headshape man
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>>557510503
i queued a second game since i still had an hour and it was even worse
i'm always the only person on the team to have a positive K/D man what the heck? im never queueing on weekends again.
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>>557517230
he's 6'5 so he mogs you
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https://voca.ro/1ikeabiRy0Zg

See you there.
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>>557518067
hello shartiepixel
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>>557514387
zoo animal teammates for zoo animals
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>>557520878
>"merci de nous aider a ameliorerererarerarer la comminque dota 2"
who got the report?
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>>557521139
previous game i think my teammates were great in this one
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>pudge's abilities go through BKB
I am sick of you guys recommending me to buy this item and then I IMMEDIATELY lose the next team fight I enter with it.
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>safelane dies 10 times
>GG mid no help
Hahahahahah hahahahhah
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>>557514351
buyback still kind of blows my mind as to why it exists. strange that it ever existed in the first place, but because it did at one point, theyve never had the balls to remove it

if you dont think of buyback as something thats just been accepted as a dota mechanic for its lifetime, it makes literally 0 sense to be in the game.
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>losing with razor
lmao
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>>557523074
dota has a lot of these legacy mechanics, which is why icefrog removed them when he was designing lol.
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>>557523074
it made more sense when you didn't have 5 other cumback mechanics piled on or weren't lv30 13-slotted aghsmaxxed mooncel at min 30-40
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you cant even do the thing where you hit the t4s after killing one t3 because of the building armor change
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kino throws
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this TA is going full retard
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can they turn off """""pro""""" dota real quick so martour can stream real dota
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carry itemization is so fucking shit it's unreal
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what in the fuck are invoker and ta doing
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>>557524910
It's a razor meta
RTZ's peak as a mid player was when he stomped dragon knights playing as razor in TI4
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this TA was sharting hard full shartour mode what the fuck
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>shid and piss
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So, 10 years ago, >95% of games ended with "one team crushed in a teamfight, other take the throne unopposed". But in this BLAST Slam, I've seen a shitton of games ending in a race on the throne, is it really the meta now?
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>>557479167
how about we return the pure damage cleave?
Game has so much inflated HP and saves that it wont be broken. if anything it will balance it even more.
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I tried playing carry after like a decade away, wtf is this game now?

I bkb ult blink in as sven, supports have ghost scepter, euls, aeon disk, glimmer cape, and all this other bullshit. Isn't even fun I just want a rampage like you used to get, supports also have like 10x hp compared to old
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>razor isnt even fp material in a gf
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>>557527269
yes, the gameplay depth has increased
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>>557527269
didnt buy a nullifier award
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>>557527269
game is not for you anymore, unc. its made for other uncs who keep up with the item changes.
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>>557527269
Now you need to pay the nullifier tax too
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just threw away my entire morning to play dota. lost every game and my mood is ruined. these animals are uncarriable
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who do i want to win
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>>557527269
Unironic skill issue
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>>557527269
I've only ever gotten rampages vs bots...
I think I got a quadruple kill earlier (we lost that game)
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I'm not buying a "nullifier" (sounds gay as fuck) and im not gonna play the game again, uninstalled.
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>>557529695
Noob
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>want to go for a wisdom rune play as a safelane 5
>carry is full hp and doesnt follow suit even though we're beating the ass of the enemy offlane and the wave is well pushed in
tired of these retards
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what does centaur do
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>>557530393
stuns people and makes them buy satanic.
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>>557530393
he's doin' your mom doin' doin' your mom
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I'm brand new, had a couple of good matches vs other noobs. Now this game expects me to carry ppl who play to lose because they have thousands of matches and don't care WTF
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absolute clownery
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the chad europeans vs the clown slavs
jesus christ they really are the ugliest race
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>>557527269
>CANT PLAY MY LE RICING NIGGER KNIGHT
LMAO@URLIFE
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>>557530393
WALK AROUND AND DO CONSTANT DAMAGE
GETTING LVL 1 STOMP AND THEN LVL 1 DOUBLE EDGE AND PEPPERING THE ENEMY CARRY WILL EAT THEM UP IN LANE IF YOU HAVE YOUR SHIT RIGHT. TRY BRACERS IMMEDIATELY.
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if your hero can't efficiently farm the jungle before level 5 then it's a bad pick.
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remember when clockwork cogs were a square?
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>>557534575
I seriously hate how this is actually true, the only reason heroes like Bane and Clock isn't top tier picks is because they can't farm.
They even buffed clocks battery so he could farm a bit better, and it wasn't even anything close to shit like all the flash farmers do... yet they nerfed it.
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>>557534149
>>557534298
guardian on US west after 12k hours
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https://stratz.com/players/106283051 this guy I played with has 4 digits single draft games. what the hell, just ban him forever
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>>557536167
SHITPOST (LITERALLY JUST ATTACKING)
ILL SEE YOU IN MONTH WHEN IM 2000 MORE MMR AND THEN MORE A MONTH LATER. YOU DONT GET IT BUDD
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>>557536331
He'll just make/buy a new account. That's the main issue with just banning. There's no good way to keep them out forever. At least this way, they'll stay on their mains and can be easily tracked.

Now if there was a way to prevent other account buyers from existing, that'd be swell but that's hard.
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>Dude abuses the shit out of recalibration back when Dota did the hard reset
>Now his account is stuck 2k MMR above his skill level (Divine-ish)
>He buys a smurf
>Loses a game and starts crashing out hard when everyone mocks how he's losing to fucking Guardian players
>Starts suicide baiting for some reason
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russia is so bad fuck off nerds
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>>557535080
You don't need to flash farm to be a good pick. You just need to be able to get kills. Bane's problem is that he's no longer allowed to get kills OR win lane. Flash farming ability there is just cope for not being able to do the first two. If farm helped Bane fix his problems, people would be playing him mid like the good ol' days.
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>>557539439
>OR win lane
Just max enfeeble and he wins every lane
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not even esports can save this thread
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>>557539505
Maybe when Enfeeble used to do -120 ATK at lv 4. The current shit that's always a small -% is lame as fuck.
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>the picking phase ends
>you load into the game
>the enemy crystal maiden has a 9 game win streak
buckle up noob
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what mids should I be considering if I don't give a fuck about laning mid?
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>>557534575
What if i'm farming heroes instead?
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>>557540997
>slop
ew
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>>557541005
the uninstall wizard
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Wtf is Treant Protector's new aghs? Can he be played as a core now?
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>>557541005
viper, primal, lina
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ruined games all weekend to weed out weekend warriors so future weekend dota games won't be as bad
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>>557547280
playing on a weekend is such a mistake, my winstreak got replaced by a three game loss streak
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>>557548772
that's why you gotta ruin other peoples games
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Low mmr here How do you know when to smoke gank? I always fail using smoke I get revealed and then nothing happens idk when to use smoke or to try Plus how do you make money on support witch doctor is high wr but clearing camps feels bad also when in the game is clearing camps as support not troll
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I play strength heroes so I get damage from BKB
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How do I win how do I win how do I win how do I win how do I win
What do I do what do I do what do I do what do I do
I got a triple kill at the enemy T3s and we lost I got a triple kill and we lost I got a triple kill and we lost
I don't know what to do I don't know what to do
I just want one win just one please I just want to know what winning feels like I don't care if the entire enemy team all just go afk and let me kill them please I just need one win
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Do people actually listen to Quartero or just skip him?
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>>557551110
the simple answer is when you and your team mates are bored
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>>557554096
he's compelling
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>>557554096
yes i do listen to him i like him a lot
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>>557554096
nobody gives a shit about dota "events" its always the same lel so randumb writing.
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>>557544557
Or is it a meme thing? Like wtf. I haven't played in a year, so idk. I'm genuinely curious, enlighten me, dotards. I've got like 500 matches played as Tree, so I wanna know
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I really miss sacrifice for some reason
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The average pub 5man could prob win the first 3 internationals. skill creep is massive
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I have a 45% wr how do I win more https://www.dotabuff.com/players/134352730
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I hate every single thing about Lion
>>
Things are.... rarely as they seem
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>>557556791
*sucks you*
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what if Slark was universal
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Literally every single time ANYBODY is on the map
someone comes running in from the trees the second I engage
And yet they still have more farm than me
I DONT
FUCKING
GET IT
THEY LITERALLY CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER IF THEIR BEHAVIOR SCORE IS THE SAME AS MINE
WHICH THE GAME ALWAYS SAYS IT IS
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it is 2026 and queue for dota games on the weekend then go on a lose streak and feel kind of miserable for the rest of the day
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>>557554892
>>557544557
Its a meme, not even pro players managed to get it to work
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I shall make a declaration: if I lose this next game, I am uninstalling
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>>557558691
duly notarized and copied, anonymous
we will hold you to it
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Thanks. My queue just popped. glhf
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>>557558643
Thanks
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>>557558315
>OUTSMARTED BY PEOPLE HIDING BEHIND TREES
LMAO
BASIC INSTINCT IF YOU ARENT A PLEB TO ALWAYS BE WARY FOR PREDATORS HIDING BEHIND TREES
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>>557559197
SO WHY ARE MY TEAM *NEVER* DOING THE SAME
HOW ARE WE CONSTANTLY THOUSANDS OF GOLD DOWN IF ALL WE'RE FUCKING DOING IS AMBLING AROUND TRYING TO HIT JUNGLE CAMPS AND ALL THEY'RE DOING IS SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR ME SPECIFICALLY TO HIT A FUCKING LANE CREEP
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another game, another support juggernaut ending with double the gold of the mid sniper
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why did bulldog come back to twitch?
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>>557560539
His Kick contract probably ran out.

I'm wondering why he is still even streaming, he seems more miserable than even your average wagie when he streams.
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>>557544557
It's total dogshit, a huge nerf. Humiliation ritual hero.
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>>557561257
Reverse RP
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>>557551110
If you're in retard MMR then just use smokes however you feel like, you can easily dunk on other shitters by just randomly popping smokes and catching people alone.
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>>557561762
>and catching people alone.
NO YOU FUCKING CANT
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>>557560726
Yeah it's painful to watch some of these old school dota players still go at it, they hate it.
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>>557561257
Well, idk about a nerd, because his old aghs, well, people would only ever buy it if the game went ultra late
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>>557561874
Skill issue.
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so the meta now is just grouping up and brawling now?
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>>557562571
>now
that's been how dota works since 2017
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>>557562571
been that way for years, no strategy left to this game
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Could somebody please explain how every single enemy player has a huge level lead despite always grouping as 2-5 and constantly sitting in trees?
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>>557560726
>I'm wondering why he is still even streaming
it beats working
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>>557541005
Sand King if you have two working braincells and don't miss a creep on the first wave.
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What's mason's end game? Clearly has no fun playing and still has to pretend to act like a teenager in his 30's or he loses views.
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>>557562895
Genuinely
how do TWO people get to be 5 levels ahead
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forced 50 exists because without it dark seer would have a 0% winrate in all brackets
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>>557562571
>now
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>>557558315
I think one of the reasons the mid and late game in dota is so boring is because of this. everybody is scared to show on a wave, but the second somebody shows on a wave 5 people instantly collapse on them. except your team is never in a position to counter gank or take the tower on the opposite side of the map.
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>double bracer DK with wand
>have to run away from Jakiro mid and get my tower taken at 7:30
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>>557563378
get paid to whinge over pos 5s
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mason please come back i love you
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>>557564323
called that shit
>>
FIX
THE
SMURFS
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>>557558854
uuuuggghhh
winning feels sooooo good
im so happy that i get to keep playing dota....
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>>557563378
his endgame is to stream until it stops being viable income, at which point he will probably neckrope
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>>557564446
Are those bots?
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>>557564697
the slardar maybe
i don't care, a win is a win. i feel soooo good
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>>557564697
https://www.opendota.com/matches/8692963237
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>>557564831
Where are their names
>>
and OF COURSE
THE ONE, SINGULAR FUCKING GAME WHERE MY TEAM ISN'T 0 AND 10 AT 5 MINUTES
THE STUPID FUCKING NIGGERSEEEKER DOESN'T CONNECT AND MAKES IT A WASH
FOR FUCKS SAKES
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>>557565074
...bweh? I dunno? What do you mean?
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>>557565389
Why are their names the hero names instead of the player names?
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dead game
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>>557565671
Umm well in my very first match of dota 2 (4 months ago! time flies!) I played against a player named "dota rapist" and he said some very not-nice things to me as he killed me fourteen times so I went into the settings and hid all communications so I can't see player chats or pings or voicelines. that probably has something to do with it. maybe. idk. don't blame me, blame "dota rapist"
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>>557566195
are you sure it wasn't dota therapist
>>
on a five game lose streak
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>>557566195
>I played against a player named "dota rapist" and he said some very not-nice things to me as he killed me fourteen times
incredible amounts of aura
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>>557566195
lmfaoooo
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>>557566195
But anon if you can't see when your team communicates with you you can't follow calls and help them
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>play Deadlock
>feel compelled to make a build and follow it to a T
>play Dota
>don't use a build even though I follow d2pt/dotabuff meta and buy the same items in the same order and level the same skills in the same order every game
what causes this?
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if Viper is designed to walk into lane and instantly remove the enemy laner from the game for the first 10-20 minutes by existing why does he go mid instead of offlane
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>>557567748
he definitely has and does go offlane, but he doesn't belong there because he's not a stunbot, he does not blink in and disable two enemy gamers so his worthless teammates can clean them up
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>>557567748
viper mid only needs to win maybe one trade ever before he starts spiraling and thats not hard to do at all. hes an anti-carry like razor, just not quite as shit
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Does Dark Seer offlane do anything really? Is he comp specific I feel like he can only be utilized around a team who knows how he works. He's fun but the games I've played with him I've either fallen off or only really been able to be like a third support towards the end rather than a core. I saw he has 100% WR in the Blast Slam but in replays I don't really see him doing shit but having one of the highest gold values. Trolled my skywrath once by accident by normal punching out of his R
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>>557567748
he does, but he doesn't tank as well as a real strength stun offlaner.
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>>557567130
Yeaaaaah, I know. My skin is probably too thin to play this game in the long-term. I should probably just not touch the Ranked mode ever.
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>>557563306
I doubt that, he seems more miserable than the average wagie.
He probably can't even enjoy playing vidya on his free time as it's his "job"
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>>557568464
You set sail for fail.
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I think I'm just gonna uninstall
Laning is the only remotely fun part of the game
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>>557568898
What does that mean?
>>
>Play Dazzle for the first time since the rework
>Get rekt in lane
>Our Gyrocopter 1v5s their team
>We win
siiiiiiiiiiiick

>>557310983
>Completely changes one of the funniest facets ever
>Doesn't even change the name of it
>Refuses to elaborate
>Leaves
Why yes, I am talking about plague carrier
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>>557310983
>removes the most fun and unique hero in the game
>replaces him with garbage
>removes the garbage and replaces it with even worse garbage
Ever since they removed thee Real Techies no fun is allowed.
>>
>engage on enemy
>teleports away
>to regroup with an ally and come back to gank me
>all without chat
this is so fucking retarded
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>>557566195
thats epicbro
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dw bros patch day is tuesday valentines day event soon
>>
FIX
SMURFS
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>>557572349
cant be done by valve
its a community thing
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Why do heroes just shout the name of the item you buy like a barking dog instead of actually saying anything about it
>>
sunday night and theres NO ONE to watch dotards
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If I'm offlane am I supposed to go behind the enemy tower to clear the wave
I played against an Axe who would do this and was just untouchably strong the entire game but I know for a fact that if I did this I'd get dove by 3 people and die or lose half my health to creeps and then get killed 2v1
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>>557572482
I REPORT THEM

JOINED DOTA PLUS ON 16.02.2026
0 WINS, 0 COMMENDS, 0 MATCH MVPS, 0 MATCHES
0 COSMETICS, DEFAULT MINI PROFILE AND MACRO PROFILE

RUINING MY GAMES
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>>557566195
based anon removing the little power that nigger had
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>>557573691
>JOINED DOTA PLUS
this is why nothing will be done
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>>557569991
dumb nigger
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who do i play if i want to play pos 1 but can't because nobody ever picks a real support, tries to steal all my last hits, and we never have any tank or cc because everyone else wants to pick random carries in every role?
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Convince me that Invoker Exort isn't the best facet he has
I am willing to be convinced otherwise
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>>557574312
Luna glaive max and jungle
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>>557574456
Invoker only exists to cast cataclysm and midas
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>>557575020
But Meteor is his best spell
>>
>>557575074
meat midas with no practical application outside of farming
>>
Luna max jiggle...
>>
>player feeds uncontrollably
>1-15-5
>flames you for not feeding uncontrollably
>1-3-5
what causes this behavior?
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>>557575020
>midas
euls is still the build even a decade later. i legitimately cannot remember the last time i got midas. total honeypot
t. 1k games on invoker, 60+% wr
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how are you supposed to lane mid these days? I get flamed for pushing mid while my team gets TP'd on in the side lane when diving towers.
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>>557576509
the mid does not concern himself with sidelaners
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>>557576337
>euls
Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this ain't it
Atos enables meteor ss blast (so does euls) but your teammates can actually contribute too
And it builds into gleipnir with the triple meteor which gives you a shitton of extra damage due to overlapping meteors with the dmg bonus and you can 'euls' the entire enemy team
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>>557576908
you get both thougheverbeit
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>>557577393
>bkb
>refresher
>octarine
>bots
>scythe
>gleip
What am I giving up sir (i ate aghs)
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>>557577585
if you havent won by 40 with invo then im sorry m8
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>>557578315
invoker is good late
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>>557579042
but even better when you can shit out better numbers than 95% of the cast pre-bkb
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>>557576509
you need to gank the sidelanes, tp to help and ward when you're moving between the lanes
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>>557578315
I'm playing Turbo
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>>557580156
my deepest sympathies
>>
the techies pig squeal after he jumps makes my day every time

whoever designed that -10/10, *chef's kiss*
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>>557580325
It's gotten so bad I don't know how to lane or play the early game I just wait until atos and then roam and get a gazillion gold and xp no matter if I got 0 last hits or not
>>
DOTA IS SHIT AND HERE'S WHY:https://youtu.be/ulhAlQIeHng
ITS BECAUSE YOU ARENT ALWAYS PUSHING
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>>557574851
>pick this
>our huskar goes 8 and 0 in 10 minutes
>enemy snapfire dc's
>I am 8 levels up and still get instakilled by 3 people because I poked my head out for a moment sieging high ground
this game fucking sucks man
>>
FACELESS VOD UNTAPPED META. GET IT WHILE ITS HOT
DIFFUSAL PROCS AGAIN WITH TIME LOCK
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>>557580576
His ideal comp?
>lycan
>natures
>tinker
>chen
>clinkz
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>>557580576
reason #6090 Deadlock is better than Dota.
>>
anyone remember way back in the day the ember sleight of fist chains build? like 2013, singsing discovered it and you would rush battlefuries and crits. maybe deso. could get triple kills and solo carry games with one well placed SOF. I gained like 1kmmr spamming him and would go 20-2
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>>557584061
someone post the graph
>>
Luna's so fucking pretty bros...
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>>557584892
This but Marci...
>>
starting to get tired of spamming turbo again
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>>557586548
marci is cute, not beautiful
>>
i miss tinker
>>
i don't
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>>557581034
Yes, anon, we know that. It's a second auto-attack. It's proccing twice because you are hitting him twice.
>>
Thoughts on saltwater shiv?
>>
>>557588194
I think the only thing keeping Slark from having Pudge or Shadowfiend levels of players is his ancient garbage model and 0 good cosmetics to hide it
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>>557587892
UH, "WE ALL KNOW THAT" YET DIFFUSAL DOES THE MOST DAMAGE YET ITS NEVER BUILT ON FACELESS VOID
YOU MEAN ITS NOT SURFACE META, LIKE I SAID
NOW STFU FAGGOT
>>
played with you faggots once and you were insufferable
plus there were literal trans
though that wasn't as bad as the fag who tried to harass me because i was not in the clique
rope nigger
>>
trans girls add me pls
>>
Name something more pathetic than a PL with a Diffusal Blade and no Khanda trying to wail on a Tidehunter with a Heart.
>>
how the fuck do I stop getting shit on in lane?
it feels like I'm doing everything the immortal draft streamers are doing, but it's like their cs is way less contested even when all 4 people are in lane.
>>
>>557588851
Ironic you mention Pudge. Being ugly is obviously, literally, not a factor.
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>>557594308
Stop picking shit heroes? You're getting shit on because the enemy laners know they can slap you in the face and you can't clap back.
>>
>rage off mic
>in-game say nothing or only something positive
This is how it should be.
>>
when are they removing shield rune
>>
Invoker is so fucking brainless
durr cataclysm/emp durr meteor blast refresh
highest dmg in the game
t. invoker spammer
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>>557592405
silencer in lane vs any dispel
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>>557596149
That's because you're using Exort Invoker, Quas Invo is good for chilling.
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>>557597349
Now the question is, QW or QE and get W at level 10
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>>557584061
i dont know exactly when this stopped being the way to play him. its interesting seeing people now are buying spirit vessel/veil and no damage whatsoever.

not that its bad but it is annoying that he cant be balanced to do magic/phys as good as each other, one playstyle is just always superior to the other
>>
>>557310983
i miss the dragon knight pre-facet/innate

aghs manta octarine silver edge, his illusions had splash and applied the building DoT and were practically unkillable. you pretty much always had dragon form and huge uptime on illusions and just push waves in and screw buildings up, and just windwalked around with free pathing

it was sleeper broken but im honestly so pissed i will never play a single game of that again
>>
topson is playing deadlock
its over dotards
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>>557567748
I played Viper mid when my team needed a break and he feels kinda shit after the laning stage.
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Is Bloodstone dead as an item?
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>>557599712
Undoubtedly.
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>>557598987
His unc brain gave up already
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>>557603349
deadlock just looks boring
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>>557604385
>>557604385
>>557604385
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>>557594486
Pudge has a ton of skins and has a quality, well-animated model as opposed to Slark's blocky ps2 face and body



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