Valentine's Day Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>557293851
Confess.
Say something nice about yoshi
i wish i was better at celeste
>enemy team does mid boss 30 minutes into the game>all their walkers are still up so i solo rush and get 1 walker down>they rush me on the way back and kill me>team yells at me for feeding and being stupid for pushingare they right? should i not push objectives while the enemies are distracted?
How the fuck do I play MirageIt feels like I do no damage if I'm not an aimbotI'm in my first game as him and getting farmed by a Haze
>>557322292I feel you. Almost every match I'm in starts out with my team feeding their asses off during laning, and in the ones where they don't, every fight is just a boring shitfest where the entire enemy team decides to focus their entire CC item actives and abilities on me.
>>557322342I'm a dirty auto aim enjoyer, I like to follow people around and bully them.
>>557322346him fucking up the game is giving me a lot more free time since I don't have to play as much
>>557322346I'm sure he means well
>>557322342i read helluva boss fanfiction
>celeste deleted from the gamerip in piss
non binary character in a game set in 1940
>>557322342Venator's voice gets me to half-chub every time
>you literally cannot queue for Celeste anymoreCELESTE COMPLAINERS, WE WONWE LITERALLY RUN THIS SHIT
>Mogged to death by every other moba and hero shooter after the biggest update yetGaben should pull the plug on this failed game, Icefraud is just paycheck stealing at this point
30 minutes €801 hour €100
>>557322846i feel like a filthy pervert but same
infinite twitch drops slop will save deadlock
>>557322846Only half chub? I get rock hard
HOW MANY FUCKING UPDATESIT'S FRIDAY GO TO A BAR OR SOMETHING INSTEAD OF WORKING
>>557322342I tell people I'm ascendant but really I've never left phantom 6
Why did they disable celeste
>>557322846This is how I know I'm not gay.
>>557323143it's a holiday weekend, valve needs to get the game in a spot where people will actually want to play it this weekendthat means working on a friday
Apollo has terrible animations, theyre so slow
how do I get this HUD
>3 updates in 1 houri know its friday and they're cramming before the weekend but FUCKING STOP
did the game crash for anyone else?
I think I've nailed down why Silver is so trash.Silver's kit feels like the kit of an overwatch character, not a moba character.Moba character kits need to actually give you tools that enable you to achieve the things the hero wants/needs to do. Tanky characters need built in stuff that gives them tankyness, artillery characters need built in damage amps, supports need built in utility, assassins/divers need built in isolation and burst. Silver meanwhile has a kit that has nothing to do with moba design. Her kit feels like an overwatch kit where she has some abilities that do shit but she has NOTHING in her kit to enable her being a bruiser (the role she seems to have been made with in mind). She just has some combos built into her kit, going 3-2-1 and hopefully having wolf form after that and a couple of melees, but there is nothing in her kit to make her survive doing that right in the enemy's face without getting instantly blow up. No actual survivability, no hard CC, no displacements, the game just expects you to be a bruiser without literally anything that all the other characters in this game have.
IM THE DRIFTA NIGGA
>>557322606PLEASE I'M DYING
>>557323369I'M 12 MILLION YEARS OLD
Which deadlock bitch gives the most insane head
>>557323369drifter is our word
>>557322342if you're on the enemy team playing a man you're probably wearing a bunny suit on my screen and I AM looking at your ass
>>557321980ivy's fun :D
What the fuck did they break that it requires a hotfix every 10 minutes
>>557323285https://gamebanana.com/mods/623518
>>557323472Who else has them besides Abrams, Venator and Doorman? Now it feels like I'm missing some.
>>557323369colin kaepernick lookin' ass
i need a silver gf
>>557323438I heard Mina loves sucking guys just not in the way you might think
>kelvin with shitternet leaves midmatch multiple times
>>557323530Well, I just had TWO brool games feeeze and end without being able to rejoin when I was playing Kelvin so maybe there was an issue there and it got fixed?>>557323654N-not im street brawl, right?
>>557323204Please respond
>>557323654Does the game not autocensor the word nigger
A lot more faggots posting gay shit lately.
What are the heights of the dl characters? I wanna heightmog them in my head.
Definitive new character power rankings?Celeste >>>>> REM > Graves > Venator > Silver > ApolloI'm shocked they would even release Apollo in his current dogshit state
>>557323204Probably her new flying thing
>>557323204turns out, celeste was just a mole-hunt to flush out the trannieseveryone who queued on her as high priority is now marked
What are the chances some autistic at Valve wrote an Ixian language for the game
>>557323204Probably something to do with all the games freezing and crashing that people are complaining about>>557323709>>557323348>>557322206>>557321904>>557321538>>557321291
>>557323739>valve game>autocensorlol
>>557323513my beloved wifegoyle
>>557323438Drifter, he is a vampire after all.
>>557323802Celeste >>>> Rem = Silver > Graves >> Venator = Apollo
https://x.com/MlNESWEEPER/status/2022329831590166859Have they fixed this?
>>557323739There's an optional chat filter, that's it.
>>557323641No you don'tEven if she doesn't accidentally wolf out one night and rip your head off, she'll drive you away by being a shit lazy personNobody needs a Silver gf
why are there so many fags and trannies in this community?
>>557323802Rem>Venator>Graves>Apollo=Celeste>Silver
>>557323739This is Dota 3 bitch, take your ass back to Overwatch
>>557324086first valve game?
>>557322342I'm not religious at all but battle priest archetypes like venator are kickass
>>557322787"How I learned to love hell(hounds)" is pretty good, actually. If it's this one, you are forgiven
>>557323607That's pretty much it sadly, I'm waiting for more to come. But there is always Venator in my game so I will be looking respectfully and sometimes disrespectfully when I'm running it down towards them.
is it true that if I que with a high prio character I want to play and a bunch of characters I've never played at low prio, it's more likely to give me the one I want?
>>557324086hazbin hotel: the game
>>557322342I only play street brool
>>557323802>How powerful they areCeleste > Rem > Silver > Venator > Apollo > Graves>How much I like themVenator > Silver > Graves > Celeste > Apollo > Rem (but all of them are pretty cool)
>>557324061>she'll drive you away by being a shit lazy personSilver and her EX likely had a bad relationship because that ex expected Silver to be the perfect gf fantasy. Considering her character there's nothing suggesting that she'd intentionally try to push someone away that genienuenly cares for her.If you show her understanding, care, not treat her like a fantasy and offer her the emotional safety and comfort she probably seeks, she'll cherish you lots.
>kino voice actress>nobody ever plays herSAD!
>endgame>demolishing enemy team and their base with rejuv>suddenly my game freezes, can still hear lagged noises and turn camera but everything else is still>get kicked>try to rejoin>doesn't let me>try again>option not there>try to start queue, maybe that will do it>client out of date>mfw just lost 50 minutes of gameplay to god knows fucking what, my internet never even went out during thisWas this some dog nigger ddos attack to prevent them from getting a loss or what?I didn't get punished but it's also not showing up in my match history and we were 100% going to win the game. Fuck this nigger game, it doesn't respect it's players or their time at all. I'm done.
>>557324186it actually is, but i am also reading ”We are at the base of the fire” and ”a samurai in hell” which are also pretty good
>>557324061c...cute... pufffy....
>get kicked from match>end up back in hub>try to rejoin>end up back in hub>try to rejoin>end up back in hubwhat the fuck man
>>557323764>>557324086theres alot of sex posting but thats /vg/
>>557324464Celeste is disabled for a reason
>see holliday>she does shooty shoot so I'll invest on weapon dmg>do least damage of team>check build guide>she's spiritI DON'T UNDERSTAND THESE CHARACTERS, I SPIRIT AND THEY'RE WEAPON, I WEAPON AND THEY'RE SPIRIT, I DON'T UNDERFUCKINGSTAND
>>557324086I think we just need to accept this will be every game from now on
>>557324391Hmm, I'll check them out then. (I haven't even watched the show)
>>557324317fuck I meant to post Vyper
They should make Sinclair into a Arc Warden where the spells are slightly different based on who's controlling the mannequin
>>557324516Have you considered reading the abilities.
>>557324314Anon, she plainly says that she hates just doing laundry so much, that she'd rather avoid doing it by going and gettting shot at in an attempt to summon an elder godAnd unlike other people who say they hate doing laundry, she actually does choose to go and get shot at instead. Despite also complaining how much she hates getting shot at for her jobShe's a lazy irresponsible self-loathing woman of contradictions who would be unbearable to spend protracted amounts of time with, I'm afraid you can't fix her
>>557324565I agree because they don't have Rubick tier aura, the spell stealing gimmick should go to someone cooler.
>Venator ult does 700 damage endgame>has a stupid fucking laser on it>takes 5 seconds to reload in between shotsEasily the worst ult in the game, Yamato can power slash every 8 seconds for more damage, lmao.Deadlock will never be good as long as they keep listening to feedback from midwit retards.
>>557324545>I haven't even watched the showsame, but from what i hear, dont bother, its just gay dramai only care about the girls and even that only because of the /co/ threads
>>557324670It's good if you like gay drama but it is most definitely a lot of gay dramaSometimes there are clowns too
>Begin finally playing this last on feb1>play only actual matches, no street brawl>almost all of my games for the following days are wins, I always do well in every match and my team also always does competent plays and plays safe>I don't engage at all with youtube tutorials or builds guide yet>4 days ago I decide to actually learn more about the game's strats and builds for the characters I play>All my games since learning how the game actually works have been total disasters. Only two wins in four days, my team has been feeding every game and enemies kick the shit out of me in any context.Why are my matches so much fucking worse AFTER I've actually learnt how to play the game? I was doing so much better when I didn't knew jack shit and just did random stuff on the map.
>>557324516She's weapon damage, a lot of people League players think abilities scaling spirit means they are spirit but that is false.
>>557324086Welcome to Valve games
why are there niggers in her screaming about venator nerfs? the hero got like 2 nerfs and 12 buffs
So did all these micro patches include any new animations or assets? Or is it all bugfixing?
>>557324086i blame mina, paige and silver (and maybe pocket too)
>>557322342Im in Ascendant 1 and cant derank no matter how many Silver games I lose.
>>557324670the problem is moreso that helluva boss's gay drama makes zero sense. Nothing about Stolas' and Blitz's dynamic makes any sense, all their scenes together feel like the most weird situationship writing I have ever seen, and it doesn't even have properly good melodramatic scenes.
>>557324707Anon, i am a hot blooded male, i do not care for the gay dramaThe girls themselves are practically background characters/accessories to the faggot imp and his owlThing is, deadlock and vivzie's hell are pretty similar, setting wise, which i find quite funny
>>557324798The people crying here were only abusing him for his ult and now that it's toned down they consider him garbage
>>557324876I sent yoshi to correct this, do not lose again.
>>557324516well, now you know. isn't learning fun?
Okay, I think I have the basics of movement mastered (slides, crouching etc)What video guide would you recommend for advanced movement? I still don't know how to air strafe or mantle boost or wall jump
>>557324976Yeah but at the expense of humiliation
>>557324936Understandable, I'm a faggot so I find the gay drama compelling and the owl is my favorite character by far
I'm struggling with this guy can I get some tips, feels like once the game become big teammfights I just get melted or do no damage.
>>557324798>b-b-but they buffed his dogshit abilitiesCan't wait to play spirit trap Venator now or maybe melee Venator with his slow movement speed, slow stamina recovery and zero movement abilities.
>>557325095GankYou are a gank heroAct like it
>>557324778they should be all brown
>>557324652i would fix her>howi just would okay, i'd make her happy
>>557324652First of all I don't want to fix her, that's a dogshit fantasy.Second of all, her hating chores and being lazy does not go against what I said. My point was that Silver wouldn't be a shit person to you if you actually cared for her and loved her. Not that it would make her like doing chores or change her job.
I'm getting better with support/control, I might not get the many kills with McGinnis, Rem, Paige and Graves but I contribute. But when I tried Sinclair... man I DON'T get that guy. In the training room he was shooting in like bursts but in-game his fire rate and projectile speed are horrible and his A1 missile... what even is that?
>>557325169>buffed his hp>lowered his cds>can get a heavy off a wall stun nowLiterally all things people asked for, ultbot-kun
>>557324767crackshot is weapon damage that scales with spirit, but her barrel and jump are straight up spirit damage.
>>557323357I feel like they designed her to be squishy and shooty in human form. Her boot kick makes her shout "get away from me" like they want you to use it to back off. But this is at odds with her ultimate which demands you keep fighting or you lose charge.Im building slowing hex and bola maxxing now
>>557325196this>>557325095you are the rapist, you break into people's houses (jungle) and you rape them when they're alone, sometimes even when there wife is watching in another lane, you pick the squishest to fight and you kill them then scale. your entire passive is about killing people.
Why do valvetrannies feel the need to defend every dogshit change to the game? The saddest part is that they do it for free
>>557323654post the full image
>>557325229Everyone is a different shade of brown
YOU GOT A LITTLE SOMETHING ON YA MATE
>>557323369brool's closed
>>557324516>getting gun on a cowboy crackshot with a six-shooterYou fell into the dinosaur's clever trap. Many such cases.
>>557325001>air strafestop holding W, use a/d and move your mouse gently left/right to adjust your momentum in that direction, it's the same way it works in tf2>mantle boost hold slide after mantling (mantling is climbing a wall)>wall jumppress your space bar against a wallhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5CRaB37G5E
>>557324086Just the reality of gaming
>>557325261>+30 hp>+0.5m wall splat>worst ult in the gameGreat trade off, surely his winrate is climbing after this amazing balance update from the street shitting genius Icefraud
>>557325095Run around and kill people. Thats literally how he works, if you arent looking to constantly catch people and rape them he doesn't work.
>>557325001Leif
>>557325246have you listened to her voicelines? she's an unbearable bitch who tries to hide her retarded behaviour of an angsty teenager behind le ironic self-loathing
>>557325551I've won my last 5 matches with him, sorry you can only play him with a busted ult
>>557325095everyone already told you to gank so I'll tell you about his "oh shit I'm underfed strategy" which is just investing everything in his ult and using it during big teamfights and praying that your team follows up
>>557325551>worst ult in the gameLOL have you seen abrams?
>>557321980Graves is so bad now it's actually laughable. I hate Yoshi and the rest of the dumb fucking devs that designed her with such a shitty fucking kit that they can't figure out a way to make her fit into the game as anything other than a low elo stomper because they made her fucking play herself. I hope this shit ass game dies for the their absurd incompetency.
>>557325760sure you did buddy, why don't you post a screenshot and show us?
>>557324086yeah it's weirdnormally f2p games are more right leaning because of all the beaners/slavoids playing it but deadlock is the exceptionmaybe it's because of the invites?
>>557325001https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwLSgW3HQGE
>no voicelines of Venator and MinaI wonder what he makes of her. On one hand, she willingly became a vampire. On the other, Venator seems to not write off all non-human beings as monsters such as Silver and the Ixians. Does the Catholic Church in this setting hate vampires entirely?
>>557325809You can at least escape with Abrams ult, Venator ult is good for absolutely nothing.
https://files.catbox.moe/gjiawy.mp4I just made this
>>557325809>abrams?>rejuv securing tool>escape tool>aoe stun follow-up and possibly even initiation sometimesAbrams' ult isn't amazing but it's good
>you only get the recast of Apollo's 3 when it connects>because of the channeling time, you have a shorter timer to move and recast his second hit than his third, because you have to account for the channel+hit time or you'll miss your third cast>or you have to end the channel early and get cucked out of perfect damageWow this sure is a Dota sequel huh>here's some arbitrary bullshit and a different timer you have to memorize but it raises le competitive skill ceiling
>>557324516>Do your abilities work without spirit investment?You are a gun character>Do you need spirit for your abilities to be useful?You are a spirit character
>>557325894Here you go
>>557326041Alex Jones belongs in prison
>>557324631He's justified, though. Making Holliday some fucking bouncy cartoon character throwing barrels around and stomping on people like mario when she's a fucking western sheriff that carries around a revolver is retarded.
>>557326095>street brawl
>>557326095>Street broollmao
>>557325820I get that her design was to be a splitpusher who can't fight as well as the rest of the cast, but the fact that she really can't do anything in any fight scenario, in a game where fights happen every 20 seconds, feel extremely bad.
>>557325494My problem with wall jumping is that it stops my momentum flat, I don't know how people can chain them to go fast. >>557325602>>557325959Thanks
>>557326193>>557326216>no argumentI accept your concession, Celeste might be your speed since her ult's since busted
>>557326137
Do you think SouthIxia plays in the Superbowl as an incorporated territory of the US?
I bet if you were sincere and charming enough you could melt mina's rough bitchy exterior
>>557324086pocket is nonbinarythat's all it takes, give them a finger, they will flood and destroy everything in sight
I'm never toxic but if you teabag me unprompted I'm going full villain mode
>>557326543>they will flood and destroy everything in sight>the game is great and has a lively community full of creative art and gameplay theorizing hmmm...
>>557322342The game needs 12 more heroes.
>>557325095The bloodtrail thing alone should tell you about how you're supposed to play him
>>557326694I want hero/jungle/walker remodels first
>>557326095>pre updatevalvetrannies have no shame
>>557324863It's not Pockets fault his writer wants to force pronouns in an era where you got lynched for being black let alone gay or whatever made up nonsense nonbinary stuff is.
>>557325289Spirit damage that won't kill anyone. Crackshot is her only really useful skill and it ignores damage fall off on headshot with an added badly scaling spirit damage, gun lets you pump headshots as opposed to a spirit build
>>557326865Nigga I'm pretty sure the Deadlock timeline has more important issues and cultural clashes to deliberate than skin colour
>>557326698Rem can afford it. He has fat stacks from taking all the sinners on the map
>>557326848>2 hours after the patch droppedYou don't play the game
>>557324086Anything with characters to attach to attracts children and the hyper mentally ill. There's no way around it. I think TF2 speaks for itself
>>557326971>no no no it was right after I promiseYou haven't played the game in 2 days, lmao
>"i thought i had this under control...!">AWOOOOOOOO>*gets shot at and dies*
So is Venator's gutshot good now? Does the stun increase make landing a blessed heavy reliable?
Playing bebop and making people miserable is the best part of deadlock
>>557327158This but doorman.
>>557326041Made me smile.
>>557327104>ultbot abuser is esl as wellThis was fun, here's your last (You)
>>557322342This game has me trying to learn to aim properly instead of using my wrist for itBut man, my arm is sore and my aim is still shit and I feel like a loser
>>557324086trannies hit the gaming community like crack to black people
>>557327021>I think TF2 speaks for itselfi mean, th tf2 community has pretty much every creed and ideology under the sun, the troons are a minority and not even such a vocal one when compared to DL
>>557327248>amerimutt>calling me ESLGonna call me brown too? lmao
I just had a Haze tell me that getting kills is more important than objectives
>>557324086Better question, why are there so many fragile shitskins in this community?
>>557324086>people that aren't me exist>I am now madMany such cases.
>>557327148I think debuff reducer lets them get the parry off but if they don't it's a free heavy melee hit
>>557327393kills lead to objectives ratting doesnt exist so they're right
>>557323802Celeste > Rem >> Apollo >>>>>>>>>>>>> Silver > Venator > Graves
>>557323802Investing in Apollocoin right now is getting in early on the next 1000x.
Do people actually think that playing street brawl then giving your opinion on /dlg/ matter
question deadtardsnew heroes or rework the the old roster?
>>557322342i ate shit when i was a toddler
>>557327507if after 30 minutes we have 0 walkers down kills dont matter
>>557327401There aren't though? At least in east coast I never play with vocally sounding black people unless I spam nigger. It's usually beta h'whites who sometimes are trannies too.
>>557327681I think Vyper/Yamato/Sinclair/Viscous deserve their new models already.
>silver releases>autistic hatred of any heroes not silver increased 10000 fold>screeching for silver buffs takes up half the generalwaifufags never learn...
So is Venator's gutshot good now? Might level it before his 1
>>557327681fire everyone involved in balancing and shut down the forums so midwit mobatards can't write essays about how guns characters are bad for le health of the game
>>557327681The two entries in my character dream list are very likely to be added eventually (rat, because it's a popular suggestion, and a fairy, because of Valve bias) so I say do the remodels first.
>>557327837leveling one was always shite, the fuck you doing?
Venatorbros what skill build are we using now? Max grenade first goes without question but are we maxing shotgun before ult now?
I've been banning Lash in every single match and whenever he's not in the game, the matches are so much more enjoyable. Same with Bebop.
>>557327681new heroes, save old hero reworks and remodels for launch or open beta imo
r8 rosterpost yoursLiking these Venator changes and I really enjoy Apollo, hope they don't nerf him too hard
>>557327803none of these waifufags are ever loyal eitherthey'll get bored of her in a month then move on to the next newest girl they see in a game or movie
>>557326015im gonna guess they just hate em for preying on people and their blood, so they'd be fine with a vampire who doesnt just bite randoms, unless valve goes full World of Darkness with vampires and makes them all sons of Caineither way he';s gonna hate her for being a bratty cunt
The mid zipline passing above the patron's head is so ugly
>>557327803nuh uh thats not what happened. Silver was getting bullied relentlessly even before she was released because some of you fags are literal fags and hate attractive women being in your games.
>>557327934Those 3 blessed stakes aren't to be trivialized. I play him as a cleaner after the team has burned their ultimates and weakened the enemy team, eyeball their health bars, and pick off the frailer members who think retreating and distance will save them
need a black lipstick graves bj
>>557327803I believe this happenedNow look at this Silver
>>557327681Finish the current roster, balance, map and focus on new heroes after the game looks ready for open beta
Make it half and half desuOne final batch of 6 heroes during closed testingThen spend the rest of that time updating the base rosterBUT Valve should also silently cook another 6 more in the background that theyll keep in their back pocket and release piecemeal once the game goes open beta so that theres some semblance of content going forward
do we know who venator's va is?
What are you even supposed to do as Sinclair when your ult is on cd?
When can we leave reviews?
>>557327990Fags love silver. Unfeminine, gruff voice, male job/dressing, drinks bourbon, etc. If anything liking silver makes you a homo.
>>557327987You can't have it go around them otherwise it wouldn't be symmetric.It would look great with 4 lanes though
what are some mid ranged characters to play
>>557328396BoltMindgamesBnnuy
>>557328398>can't play>can't readpottery.
>>557327934Even though his ult is a shadow of its former self I can't imagine NOT maxing it first.
>>557328446vindictatalonpaige
>>557328446Venator is pretty mid.
>>557328167yoshi gave him a +25% bonus on traps too, pretty obvious the idea is to finish off or gib people running into traps >>557328339>focus on new heroes after betawould be bad for player numbers tho
>>557328403>If anything liking silver makes you a homo.Cope + seethe
>lasso graves with less than half HP>teammate billy literally just watches and does nothingget me out of this fucking game
>>557328493You already should have been maxing Grenade first even before the nerf.
>>557328403If you see a man in silver you might be the gay one
>>557326865true, but pocket's pronouns still take up only a fraction of space in deadlocks community compared to paige/mina and silver lesbo bullshiti guess its because pocket's too male to have tasteless and brainless waifufags creaming themselves to him
>>557327987solution: add a fourth lane, two on each side of the patronperhaps it could be purple colored...
>>557328579>>557327915Discuss
>>557328571I would have pressed pause and bitched at him to do something
Get him Mo!
>>557328579>lucky shot>ricochetYea no offense but im gonna take advice from somebody else
People in my fuckass Emissary rank really shouldn't buy rescue beams
How do people land that damn stun on Paige? I'm good with the dragon, reading where people will run to cut them off or throwing it over stuff to surprise people, but the sword thing has so little deploy range and takes so long to come down after telegraphing itself I'm not sure what to do with it.
>>557327367America alone has a greater population than the UK, Ireland, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand combined and the rest of the planet is ESL. Being EFL is a pretty American trait.
>I can already consistently get Venator in normal matches even without a hero tokenCome on man he's not that weak
>>557328579poke damage with grenade is less valuable than easy kill set up with a maxed gutshot
>>557328797buy expansionuse it after your allies use their stuns/slows/knockups/stamina drains
>>557328769The #2 player on the NA leaderboards maxes grenade first you stupid cocksucker. Kill yourself.
>>557328446Calico is mid and ranged
>>557328769Hes not giving advice he is stating facts
>>557328818He's not weak but he requires more skill now to play than Haze. Why would I want to overwork myself when I can play Haze which requires a lot less effort?
>>557328802>The United States has the second-largest Spanish-speaking population in the world, after Mexico, with 44.9 million people aged five or older speaking Spanish at home as of the 2024 American Community Survey.truly a country of mutts, lmao
>>557328797Your slowing hex, mystic reach or vortex web?
>>557326957Human populations have always historically had way bigger problems than people being gay or a different race, this stays true in modern times as well.And yet populations have also historically lynched them all across the ages, humans are not rational beings when grouped together.
>>557328983I don't mind Haze but Venator is just a lot more fun for me at the moment, might be my 2nd favourite m1gger at the moment behind gun Vyper
>>557328446Geist.
>>557328880Yea thats cool and all im just gonna listen to somebody else, sorry
>>557328727hrrrmmmhmmmm...stupid, sexy, juicy mo...
>>557329092I dont know how Mexico still has people living there because every Mexican already moved to the US.
Who is the most evil character in the lore?
Honestly if Ixians are real I think I would be megaracist towards them>literal demons with horrifying power>nation always warring with itselfIf an Ixian moved into my neighbourhood I'd write letters to the Catholic church asking them to deal with itNow, if an 8ft tall Ixian lady stroked my hair, well, maybe I'd change my tune
>>557329335Seven
>>557329092We still have the largest English speaking population>>557329231Americans moving to Mexico and gentrifying it
>>557328382No but his voice is pure sexo
>>557329335At face value it's Drifter but the real answer is McGinnis
I don't know how to play Mo+Krill, none of their spells do anything except their ult and their gun sucks
kill every single werewolf and briefcase carrying fag
>>557328983>he's not that weakHe's objectively the worst gun hero in the game
>>557329335Mcginnis is an actual psycho
>the top players do something therefore I must do itnigga if you could play like them you wouldn't be alchemist
>>557329462build spirit and green and just run around bursting people with scorn and ult stacks
>>557329423I thought he sounded a little weird at first (mainly in his lines where he's yelling) but he has grown on me a lot
Shouldnt people be crouching up and down after i jail them as warden so i dont punp like 500 damage worth of headshots into them during laning?
>>557329514The grenade fucking melts people you are fucking retarded if you're not maxing it first regardless of what top players do. Actually fucking kill yourself.
>>557329615hmmm nyo.... I'm gonna max gutshot and kill enemy players instead.....
>>557329441>McGinnis>muh ”she built weapons so shes responsible for the evil psychos who use them!” memeyeah, nah, it is either drifter or doorman, as those two actually take pleasure in hurting peoplemcginnis just gave people a better way to kill each other, its not like she forced them to do it
>>557328382Vaguely similar but not this guy.
>>557329545What exactly IS scorn?
>"The power in this case... is terrifying.">look inside>frogs
>>557329462>burrow under a nigga>knock them up and make them pregnant>then ult and hope your teammates finish the job so you don't pay child supportThat simple, also fuck m1ggers with your 3. Your 1 deals surprisingly high damage once it's maxed and makes you a surprisingly decent duelist.
>>557327882>and a fairy, because of Valve biasEvery few years they give another shot at making their fairy fantasy RPG, it was revisited on Source 2 as well. I'd love to see an original fantasy setting from Valve eventually, it's clear the Dota IP holds them back.
>hollidays gun ability scales with spiritis hotpoo actually retarded
>>557329721Psychic damage from Mo flexing on them.
Paige if she Drifter
>>557329441>>557329503Actual trvke. Drifter may kill 100s of people every year but McGinnis' creations will be like the invention of the atom bomb except she's just doing it for money.
>>557329901>That time of the month again
>>557329837Its almost like the spirit scaling on crackshot makes Holiday into a cohesive spirit scaling character rather than a mostly spirit character with one random gun scaling ability.
why do you fagots have to post so much bara shit every single threadSTOP ITFUCKING STOP IT
>>557329837Yes he isI hope they end up splitting holliday's kit into 2 different heros because the current one doesn't sell the sheriff/cowboy fantasy at all
>>557329964Later would make her certified Icefrog
magic missile
>>557329651when you kill your enemy they win
>>557330090>scrappedNyoooooo...
What would your patron wish be, /dlg/?HARDMODE: NO [character] gf/bf wishes.
how the fuck do i bunnyhop as celeste
>>557330064Holiday's abilities belong on a circus performer like Celeste. Too much jumping and throwing shit
>finally get apollo>go 16-4 and make the enemy bounce on it
>>557329837>>557329964I've said it once and i've said twice. Holliday's barrel should've scaled with gun. It's "gunpowder". And now that Venator does it, all of a sudden it doesn't sound so crazy
>>557330204I would delete deadlock
>>557330218press spacebar and move diagonally without holding W
>>557330218let go of w and learn to time your jumps so you're not double jumping accidentally
Celeste pubes status?
>>557329964>what is build diversity
>>557330204To kill the patron
>>557328724*hooks you when I jump off to take you with me*]GET OVER HERE
>>557329816Stars of Blood WHEN
How long does the apollo ult have a 70% reduction on the other team?
>>557330204Make me irresistable to nonhuman women
>>557327990Trvke, that guy is probably a faggot who hates "waifus" (plural revealing his normalFAGgotry)Silver gets the most shit out of any of the new 6, only Graves compares.
>>557330361Thats true but you know if it actually did scale on weapon you would get posts like>Holiday has one ability that scales off gun.>Is hotpoo retarded?
>>557330064Yeah Hollidays kit feels less like they wanted a cool cowboy/cowgirl and wanted someone as a batrider function.I think some of the other Hopoo characters serve their characterization well. I would say Sinclair definitely fits the tricky/magician shtick well
>>557330404the slowdown duration
>>557330337Well-trimmed and orderly
>>557330396Kill yourself
Did they buff Mina? My kill rate doubled after the Apollo update.
>>557330204immortality duh>buh that's boring you could just become a vampiredon't care I'm content in life and immortality gives me plenty of time to acquire anything I'd desire as well as watch the world change.
>>557327958
>>557322342i can only play m1 characters
>>557329462your main job is to ult the strongest opponent and hold them there for your team to kill them while they're stunned.besides that you catch up and slow enemies with your burrow and disarm/slow them with your pocket sand.you have tons of HP but youre also an extremely large, easy to shoot target who needs to be directly up the enemies' noses in order to do anything - thats what your 1's for.item build-wise its hard to do anything inventive on mo, you go quicksilver reload first, then mystic burst (after getting 2nd upgrade to scorn, otherwise you're unable to proc it) to heal more in lane. over the game you go torment pulse (your main source of damage over the game, but sometimes it might be dropped in favor of utility items), warp stone (to allow vertical movement during burrow among other things), phantom strike (to teleport to ult targets) and transgender cooldown (since momo likes actives). you may also buy spirit debuff shit (like healbane, mystic slow and/or suppressor) or some extra utility like curse or knockdown ((tho phantom strike into ult usually solves the flying enemies issue)) if needs be.if you want to deal more damage, escalaing exposure into/or spirit burn is probably the best way to do it, but those are LUXURY buys, affordable and useful pretty much only when youre absolutely raping the enemy team. low damage dealt is mo's main weakness - youre already the fattest sustain tank in the game and you have THE STRONGEST disable tool in the game (your ult), it'd be unreasonable for you to also deal a shitload of damage.so you're a support tank instead.
>>557322342Celeste is fun and I'm going to be sad when I can't mod her tattoos out anymore.
>>557330064fuck no, she has the most fun kit and best design i can't go back to chars without jump pad
>>557327262what the fuck does that mean? How does one aim with their arm instead of their wrist?
>>557329721prolly some minor hex/spell that mo learned to sustain himself
JUST PORT IB DARK WILLOW ALREADYHOW MA Y TIMES DO I HVAE TO ASK THIS ICEFRAUD
>>557330768what is this performative outrage with xitter indians over tattoos. i keep seeing it
>>557330902The doodlesperg can't help taking the bait
Outside of New character hype, who would you end up playing more often? I actually find Apollo very fun. Crazy how he actually takes skill, timing and movement to be good, meanwhile Celeste has a dozen aim bot attacks
I want Spirit Geist back.
>>557330902it's just ugly
>>557331041please no, that shit might be more braindead than Mo/Krill
>>557330892Yes give me eshift as a normal skill please.
>>557330963It's not bait they are genuinely disgusting.
>>557330204to kill all waifufaggots
>>557330064The jump pad is synergistic with lasso but at the same time it also feels kinda forced
>>557331037As an active item fiend Rem is my favorite but I also like to relax with Venator.
Can I play one fucking match without 4 leavers?
>>557327681we unironically need only one more batch of heroes, maybe even a 4 batch like the first, and refine what we have and its good
When are they going to delete Grey Talon from the game? His kit is incongruent shit to play, he's AIDS to play against with every single one of his abilities and his design is the least polished of all of them in the entire game apart from maybe Yamato.
>>557331327t. got raped by hawk tuah
I don't want to play anymore.
>>557331107Your Black woman of valve originality?Build a little bit of cooldown and its always up
>>557330892Have you asked in the forum though?
>>557331435>holidayliterally everytime I queue that hero
>>557331143the most based man in /dlg/...
>>557331435nigger your build is horrible why are you going headhunter and all those shit items, you dont even have stamina masterygo for the build that has zekky in name or something close
>pick kelvin>torment pulse>exposure >ult graves every single fight
>pop off as Silver in a game, finally>entire team decides to give up and leaves me alone to push all three lanes>we lose cause our shit gets pushed in this game is too fucking easy to grief.
>>557321980SAY HER NAME
>>557331476>>557330892She already got her stun pilfered by se7en. But the rest of her kit would genuinely work great in Deadlock, make her brambkes like Venator's traps but placable on walls too.>>557331107>ethereal shift>makes you invincible instead of etherealthis bothers me immensely, they should rename the item
>>557331514So is she known for being bad or I'm just comedically dogshit and invite characters like Apollo to bully me the entire fucking match
>>557330204TKD
>>557331684Nano
>>557331143*sanguine retreat*
>>557331107Your Calico?
>>557329335McGinnis
>>557330204ivy and vyper free use forever only for me
>>557331673>Silver about to be useful>Throw ze match
>do midboss>go clear waves in the side lanes before we go for the mid push>shiv just goes straight to mid, fights 1v6 and dies twice>nobody builds anything to deal with Victor>lose the game
>>557331684Ava
>>557331714Shes hard to play and harder to win with in retard mmr.
>>557330516>Buff Sinclairholy..
>>557331816If you got an effect like Shadow Realm it'd make you untargetable for targeted spells/items and bullet immune, but more vulnerable to AOE spirit damage. I genuinely don't think it would be useful here.
>>557331435Can't even tell what I'm doing wrong or right because I got comms for this shit score. The fuck is this game. I should just quit.
>>557331714she has greeat dmg potential but if you don't know what you're doing with her you're feeding
>>557331684
>>557331441>>557331816I said normal skill, not ultimate.Plus willow gets it on a 15 second cooldown don't pay attention to her still being vulnerable to aoes
>>557331290> 4 leaversWtf are you in ragequit queue?I rarely see any leavers
>>557330204i wish for a sandwich, bitch
Rem: Cute funny guy but mostly shit, though cancer to lane againstGraves: Cool design but boring af to play and kinda mid nowSilver: Kinda lame and also pretty shit except for the 4 minutes of the 30m match where she's OP as fuckVenator: Cool as fuck and now also pretty goodCeleste: Cool as fuck but also cancer to lane against, seems mostly well balanced nowApollo: Pretty cool but way too much value for how little skill he takesDid I get all that
>>557331684NIGGRESS
what hero will let me crush rem like a tomato in lane
>>557330090Now that her kit has been given to celeste, she needs a new one, I present to you spirit aimgger>Gun: Shoots arcane bolts at a decent speed and firerate, 5 base ammo, bolts deal a portion of spirit damage by default>1: Shoots a big bolt that deals spirit damage and tracks your crosshair, reload weapon on use, starts with 2 charges, low general cd and between uses.>2: Hop on a broom and take flight, she can shoot and use abilities normally while flying without slowing down. Using stamina while flying makes her enter high speed mode for a few seconds, greatly increasing movespeed but disabling shooting and ability usage during it because she has to hold her hat with her free hand so it doesn't fly away>3: Summons 3 arcane stars around her, after a second the stars automatically launch themselves towards the crosshair one by one dealing spirit damage. The stars launch themselves even if she enters high speed mode after casting the spell. Upgrades increase the number of stars.>4: Charges arcane energy for up to 7 seconds, when released it becomes a projectile that explodes on impact, stuns and deals spirit damage. Damage, stun duration and explosion radius all increase the more the ability is charged, if it is charged for 5 seconds of more enemies hit get launched away from the center of the explosion.
i cant wait for yoshit to buff my apollo because nobody else can play him
I hate nothing more than feeling like I'm holding the team back, fuck this feels awful
>Immunity to targeting>In a game where most damage comes from free aim abilitiesBrilliant
>>557322839>xe doesnt know about the public universal friendembarrassiiiiiing
I think I'm gonna unninstall.I had my fun with the earlier versions of the game cause it was a moba but with actual build flexibility and matches allowed for a lot of moment to moment player expression. But now every character is forced into the same builds based entirely around item actives so you can actually play the game and every match is just a sudden anticlimatic loss at 40 minutes.It feels like instead of learning from the Ls of other mobas and being different, the game's goal is to have the same flaws and issues that every other moba had, just with the gimmick of being a third person shooter. And sorry but, I have no interest in playing yet another flawed awful feeling repetitive moba just because its TPS.I'll miss my dog gf.
>>557332119Celeste is still megabusted in good hands, the nerfs were a slap on the wrist.
>>557332186We need a hero who can instantly eat minions like cultist sacrifice so you can delete hitler's goons.
>>557332203>I present to you spirit aimggerI'm not going to read that, for the sole and single reason that this concept already exists as an item.
THE LOATHSOME BUTCHER OF IXIA
I've been looking for a similar hero to Yorick from League. Graves would be the obvious one, but I think Rem is the one. I just put some helpers on the creeps of the side lanes and watch them go. He's also helping me understand how to build better since I have to think more about what actives do I get
ARE WE GETTING A VALENTINES DAY GIMMICK TOMORROW BROS
>>557330817Barrel+jumpad on new heroCrackshot+lasso stays on holliday
>>557332302just wanted to tell you that I didn't read this post
>>557332043You forgot that 2.5x healing restoration amp
>>557332240Dying first on my team makes me wanna quit, extra pain for dying first in general.
>>557332369Why would Valve name him Wrecker if his lore literally calls him the Butcher of Ixia. Butcher could just be his name.
>>557332369I never got to play this guy.
>>557332186The counter to rem is teamplay. He basically doesnt exist as a hero besides this existential metaphysical shit, so you simply deathball and win every teamfight 5v6, or 2v1 in the case of lane. Just focus his lanemate
Stop trying to ruin Holliday you retarded cunts.I'm so fucking sick of this day in and day out.
>apollo decides they want to bully me for 30-40 minsAnd I literally can't do anything about it.
> flys away> starts menstruating down on you from oorThe fuck do I even do against vindicta and mina shitters
>>557332046Never rage quit, I get 20 hours of it in a row so far
>>557332386Mina only final destination, love bites does 10x dmg
>>557332386Yes, a kissing booth will show up in the hideout that will house your most played hero
>>557332564Knockdown.
>>557330204To kill everyone who has ever used 4chan or 4channel. Myself included.
>>557332369Rename him to Rapist Of Ixia and make him look like a rapist.
now that the dust has settled, who has the highest ceiling in the game?
>>557332364That's like saying that victor shouldn't exist because cheat death already exists, or that drifter shouldn't exist because hunter's aura already exists
>>557332331CHA-CHING
>>557332186Any hero that kills creeps well completely disables his best laning tool, and with the most recent patch also gets more souls for doing so.
>>557332726Lash
I have only seen a Venator do really good in a match once. (Saying that was just an excuse to post this)
>>557332521You probably can still try him out with console commands. Unless it has been patched out
>>557332726Mo&Krill
