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Previous Thread: >>557187158

Nioh 3 is out: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3681010/Nioh_3/
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>crucible themed around needles
>not a single one of the needle blobs from nioh 1
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Why does having a companion NPC destroy performance
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Oh fuck off he's not dead
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>>557429548
>ah, I'm defeated I will serve your cause to the death take-sama
what did he mean by this??
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>>557429548
So Hirukomatsu causes a bad future, rules for hundreds of years and engulfs the country in the Crucible, but every other element of history plays out exactly the same, right down to the Yanks parking themselves in Edo Bay and the existence of the Shinsengumi and the pro- and anti- factions
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>get through the ancient area
>oh cool… im playing rise of the ronin… again.
Why couldn’t they have gone literally anywhere else in history
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>>557430132
I think it was the same thing Fate does where each is an isolated timeline that plays out normally until the crucinite hits or slowly reverts itself after the crucinite is dealt with.
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>>557430218
It is a cool era, just wish we had stuff like revolvers
And that the region wasn't a blasted hellscape exactly like the previous one
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>respec from magic odachi build to skill ninja 1kat
>so much fucking weaker than I was before
>much more fun
its a trade off I guess
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how is switch glaive in this game? i mostly play odachi
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>>557430727
the same as in 2
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>>557430132
it is time to stop asking questions
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>>557430218
My issue with the era is that it should've been a showcase of Kunimitsu's rule. The region being one giant finalized crucible you have to trim away at as you get into the strict and heartless rule of Kunimitsu (shove Hiruko into a corner for the moment) and if the Death Veil actually completes sucking off Japan. Can have a little area to begin with being the last remnants of Japan's humanity while Kunimitsu rules Yokai Country.

>>557430727
Pretty good, being able to more effectively cancel into a few skills helps with things as does those skills not being gated behind skill texts. Warning if you are late game and have mystic arts, the stacks for the switchglave do not last long.
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>>557430218
The Japanese have their favourite eras that they wank on endlessly about, just like any other media from any other country
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>>557430218
Could've expanded on the antiquity too.
>>557430378
Yeah it's like all the colors disappear after the first map.
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how would you guys actually rate the samurai weapons roughly. i feel axe is way better here than in 2.
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>bullshit
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>>557431418
2kat > 1kat > the rest
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>>557431418
odachi is literally perfect with the addition of the new flux attacks so i did not bother trying anything else
maybe i will try out other stuff after the dlc are out
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>>557431418
Fists feel a tad bit weaker than in 2 but they're still fists.
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>Warring States
>comfy, nice-looking, lots of content
>Heian
>ugly, much less content
>Bakumatsu
>even uglier, almost no content at all
Well that's a bummer. Called it though.
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So in the end, what weapons lost and won in nioh 3??
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>>557432175
heian had way less stuff than bakumatsu which has like 5 dudes giving side quests
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>>557432175
>Bakumatsu
>almost no content at all
Nigger what? It has the most content out of three
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>>557432202
Axe won, bigly. Splitstaff lost horrendously.
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For DLC1, it's Kyoto in 1651... but destroyed
For DLC2, it's Kyoto in 1637... but destroyed
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How is Hazy Moon Blade different from Moon Shadow? Does it just remove the timing requirement?
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Is there a source or collection for character codes? I suck at making characters.
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how do i actually craft a decent weapon
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>>557432954
>Kyoto destroyed
such is the natural state of the jap history
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>>557433580
Carefully
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>>557433580
you dont
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>>557432954
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The open field "works" for Nioh 3 fine but the levels are much worse. And somehow Nioh 2 has better storytelling.
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i levelled 5 times from the fight where you help your 2 masters on the way to the last boss (ng+)
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Can you get Hiruko's smithing texts from his first encounter, or is he going to drop them in a set encounter later like a lot of these other bosses?
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>started playing late and missed all the fun threads here and on /v/
>now everyone moved on or are on NG+++
:(
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>>557429916
yeah it goes into slow motion for me
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>>557436554
not me, we can be slow buddies
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>>557429928
He would have been in about 4 more years, Hiruko really did screw up the timeline.
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Damn almost beat the Demon of Pride on my second try. He has a lot of hp, maybe my level is too low.
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Nioh 3's story is just mommy's but worse.
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>>557436554
You're not that late, I finished the game and started NG+ 2 days ago.
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>>557437393
I've only found Pride and Envy so far and between the two Pride was an order of manitude more difficult.
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>>557437603
I guess I just got lucky, I ran out of elixers when he wasn't even at half health so I just played it safe. I'm not even good at this game so I find it baffling I was close to beating him.
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>>557437603
I found him the hardest out of all of them
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>>557433580
NG+ because exponential price hikes is how the blacksmiths makes a killing in the afterlife. Entire fucking Tomo bloodline are bad about this. Also where you'll actually get umbracite to make things happen.
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>handmade 120+2 odachi on a 7/7 crimson general set
>sajo crucible
>that first mounted yokai
>moonlit snow charge
>flux
>moonlit snow charge
>out of ki
>soldier isn't; pokes me
>winded
>combos me
>80% hp gone
>have to back off and heal
>moonlit snow redux for the kill

>reset at shrine
>switch to ninja
>level 100+1 autoequipped 1kat and armor i don't even have the stats for
>run up to soldier
>light heavy heavy
>haze behind him
>light heavy heavy
>his ki breaks, mine's still at 60%
>mash him down with the full light string into one heavy

I've been playing an entirely different game than everyone else.
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Is there a bestiary of some kind? I remember Nioh 2 had it, you could read a description of each yokai and if i recall it even had some tips on how to deal with them.
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>>557439184
Yeah at the interim.
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>>557439184
It's in the eternal rift, table near the mirror that lets you change how your character looks (either body or equipment).

Is it better to have Item or Equipment Drop Rate for trying to get Yasakanis?
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>>557439070
ive been playing samurai... and when i do switch to ninja im using kusa which is barely a weapon
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>>557436554
Not everyone's a neet who can play 18 hours a day
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>>557437603
Obsession was actually the hardest for me until I decided to use Ninja and he was a cakewalk. Absolute pain in the ass as Samurai would not recommend
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Goemon hits me once and then that's it
Is this claws no chikara?
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Nothing to do. 2.5k cups since I just join and kill for others at this point.
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>>557440729
Oh well, I accidentally activated Living Artifact so I guess that's that
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Man, even Itsumade melt to sheer ninja aggression
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So every boss from Kusanagi on is gonna be fromslop, huh? Thought he would be a one-off but Hiruko works the same way, except it also has a laughably easy first phase you have to waste time on every attempt. Second phase is full of unreadable attacks composed of incomprehensible visual vomit, spammy, not team ninja-esque at all. Very disappointing.
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>>557441282
Hiruko is child's play compared to what it slaps you with near enough immediately after
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>people insist N3 is the easiest its ever been
>people insist N3 is the hardest its ever been
I'm level 25ish. Where are the difficulty spikes?
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>>557441375
What, like it's "hard" or it's got the same major design flaws that Kusanagi and Hiruko have? The former is fine, I love Nioh 1 and 2 and it has no issues like the latter except for a couple of DLC bosses in Nioh 2. Fromsoft ruined gaming, devs took all the wrong lessons from them.
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>>557441781
Human boss bullshit
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>>557441282
the boss right after Hiruko is much worse too
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>>557441780
First region is overall quite easy. The cave was a pretty hard area, but most of the other areas are very easy to clear. Only a few bosses are troublesome. Game steps up quite a bit in 2nd region with some real ballbreakers, and it just keeps getting harder from there. The game has unfortunate difficulty spikes and dips. If it didn't have much, much better combat than Nioh 1 and 2 it would be definitively the worst of the trilogy.
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Will gold be plentiful in NG+?
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So the rank and file Shogunate armor is a Ninja armor
And the special police Shinsengumi armor is a Samurai armor
...?
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>>557431430
>burrshittu
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uh so I figured out a free amrita and gear farm

you know that mission with 4+ faggot bosses (battle scroll) one after another? You can easily fuck at least the first 2, that's some good cash right there
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>I could have separated burst break and style shift any time I wanted
oh well, now I know
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Is it just me or are Tonfas clearly way better than every other ninja weapon?
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>>557437393
Fuck I beat him, I died more times to the guy on the horse than him maybe I'm just gettin gud finally.
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>>557443694
most of it is just nonsense
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>>557443694
shinsengumi represent the samurai though
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ng+ hiruko has too much hp.
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I'd hiru his ko if you know what I'm saying
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>>557445661
What are you doing with the tonfas? I'm shredding with dual blades right now
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Is random co-op dead? Can't find a match queueing as a visitor.
I actually got a match as I typed that. Kind of crazy that it only searches for 2 seconds and you have to keep requeueing
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>>557447194
NTA, but tonfas absolutely demolish ki, have high damage and chainable attacks, and are pretty mobile
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Do buffs stack?

Like if I had two different gears that had decreased damage taken: Amrita absorption
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What are the best stat breakdowns imo
>>557447520
tonfachads rise up, for some reason I mained switchglaives in nioh 2 but can't in 3 so I'm just beating down enemies with sticks
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>>557448059
You can check in your status screen
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>>557448163
Status screen isnt clear if its a name buff like pleiades
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He wants to "expel the barbarians", but he uses a Western revolver. Is he stupid?
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>>557447194
I tried dual blades and I feel like they barely do damage. I like the move set though, the numbers just need to be bigger.
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uh, im a woman too?
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Either I don't get it yet or the splitstaff kinda sucks
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>>557449412
Like RotR, this game is clearly predicated on you being a man. Being female is essentially just a gameplay skin.
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>>557449565
Suffered badly from the loss of stances
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I feel like they made 1kat too good for both samurai and ninja. Again. Their martial arts do insane damage relatively quickly.

Running a ninjutsu focused build, iga ninja set with 1kat and kuru as ninja, and brave demon set with 1kat and cestus as samurai. I'm an absolute shitter and rely on ninja for like 90% of the game. 1kat from behind with the mastery for even more increased damage from behind shits all over every other ninja weapon, imo. I did enjoy axes dual swords, but 1kat just does more damage with less hits... If you can only get 1 or 2 hits off before needing to dodge, 1kat comes out on top.
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>>557431730
Odachi has weaker combo potential with the new proficient arts mechanics
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GTX3000bros how are you handling DLSS
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anyone gotten a lvl 170 weapon with crucible modifier yet? been farming for a bit in the scion crucible, gotten a bunch of 170's, but none with crucible modifier
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>>557449412
>It's on point. Feudal Japan was extremely hierarchical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha
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>>557444556
Just farm all five. It's a fun, low difficulty boss rush and you only get about four of those missions total.
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>>557442876
lol no be sure to sell equipment blue and lower from the get go
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>fight ibaraki doji
>700 years pass
>encounter her again
>she's just like, "oh, it's you again"
I suppose maybe that's like five minutes if you're immortal
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Just starting the game now, is 1kat still the most kino and fun weapon to use like in Nioh 2?
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>>557449412
Female isn't canon. The protag is either male or feminine "male".
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the historical takechiyo was gay so I guess it's lore accurate that they made mine a lesbian
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>>557452431
And nioh 1, yes.
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Maybe they shouldn't have had the Hisahide trade menu spoil what bosses are returning
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>>557452982
I'm guessing Jorogumo might be somewhere in this cobweb area
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>>557452431
2kat > 1kat > everything else
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>>557450073
Several
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>>557453091
Yeoh, thought so, there's that Nioh 1 DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO boss music
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>>557453267
I still haven't gotten a tornado edge weapon
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When is RotR going to be $10 or less. I kinda want to replay it.
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>>557453267
excellent, thank you for confirming, did you farm in any specific crucible or specific mobs?

there's a large discrepancy between what certain enemies can drop it seems. like the last crucible with kunimatsu/hiruko has that one spot at the passageway shrine which is good for farming yasakani, but shit for farming 170 stuff

the scion of the gods crucible has a spot that's good for 170 stuff, but still trying to find other places
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I wish we had better beard options and better skin texture / aging effects.

I want to make William, but without the correct beard options he always looks a little weird.
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>multiple "fix" patches in
>Todo Clan still not nerfed
Is it legitimate? Can I play Todo and not be a cheater???
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Alright, Moonlit Snow Redux > Frost Moon: Earth > Moonlit Snow Redux > Frost Moon: Heaven > ... might be the clostest thing odachi has to being really good, but only during Arts Proficiency.
Its ki use:damage ratio is just absolutely fucked in this game.
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TodoGODS always win.
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Convince me to part with Little Crow & Quickdraw
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I can't play with the map not loading
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How do you rank up your clan?
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>>557454967
trade items to them
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>>557455026
Thanks
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I wasn't supposed to go back to the first area and fight demon if pride was I?
Still beat it tho
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>>557453195
2kat was way more boring than 1kat in the other games.
Fun tier list was basically 1kat > fists >>> other weapons > axe and hatchets in last place
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>>557454673
Even doing that, I personally found it's damage severely lacking. Especially considering what you said in that it's Ki usage is absolutely absurd.
I feel like I do at least twice as much damage while barely doing anything on Katana...
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>>557453195
2kat has fun skills but does shit damage, just like almost everything that isn't 1kat
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>Last Stand
>>Reduces Ki consumed by attacks in proportion to how little Ki you have remaining
>>>Ninja Skill
What in the actual fuck.
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Is there a storage and how do I access it? I have multiple sets I want to keep and don't want to keep seeing them in my inventory when I'm not using it.
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>>557455449
>Katana
Yeah katana's pretty busted, even without mentioning Severing Spin (did that really need an auto parry too?)

Odachi wasn't even that strong in comparison to its stupid Ki use innthe prior games either, but being able to lay even yokai on their face with Bolting Boar payed huge dividends. They nerfed the fuck out of that for literally no reason co sidering how busted so many other weapon skills are.
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>>557439070
>his ki breaks
fake news
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>>557456510
>payed
paid*. Not fixing all the phoneposting related typos
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>>557456510
I never liked Odachi even in the other games. Felt like a Moonlit Snow merchant.
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>>557456647
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>>557457156
me in the middle
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>>557457156
The game hates you using anything which isn't a mashing anime move that hits 30 times per second, so you're punished for pressing single hit skills by having humanoids regen 50% Ki between each hit
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>doing 12k in one hit through guards with sword of meditation
i literally never touched this in 2 was it always good?
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>>557457116
I never even did MLS in Nioh 1 and 2. For me it was Twin Moons~SotC, but weapon swapping is bugged in 3, and the Smith's expensive as balls, so I've only been reforging odachi stuff.
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Nearly first tried takeda guy on horse, I was so close damn.
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>>557457362
Yep.

https://youtu.be/QX-nkuFTyno
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>>557457713
yeah, it always did funny numbers, was just hard finding a spot to use it
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Experimenting with Grace of Hotei
>Stackable Life Regen only works with unique life regens, as in - you need to have multiple different versions at the same time. So you can use Life Regen Item, Deflect Regen, Evade Regen, Kill Regen etc.
>However, you can't double up. You can't spend all your time deflecting or evading, you won't get more stacks like this, it always needs to be from a different source.
>The buff lasts only a few seconds on the set pieces life regen sources, so deflect life regen is only like 5 seconds of healing.
>This also overrites the longer life regen of healing pills that give you like 30 seconds of life regen, so if you pop one of those, then deflect, suddenly your 30 seconds of life regen is now 5 seconds.
tldr; Grace of Hotei is trash.
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>>557456382
L3
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>>557458095
>does zero commitment running attacks around the triple swipe combo when you can get a clean chidori to the back of his head during that every time
these videos aren't about optimisation they're about doing whatever the content creator personally thinks will get the most likes, which is generally just whatever includes the most inputs
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Tengu filtered me, I'm quitting this game...
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>>557456382
You have to go to your equipments menu while praying at a shrine. Then you get to move things into storage/look inside it with selection settings.
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What are some good graces to focus on?
I'm looking at;
>Fukurokuju
>Jurojin
>Vaisravana
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>>557458784
Show me an optimized video then, preferably in the Underworld.
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>>557458543
>healing grace is bad
ya dont say
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>>557459114
>getting filtered by tengu
kek, there are way harder normal mobs
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When would be a good time to commit on gear and do soul-matching on NG+? So far pretty close to a build idea just from warring states but the low levels makes me not want to invest millions of gold on it.
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>vergil dashing through an enemies attack while cutting them to shreds with after attacks
Katana continues being the coolest weapon in the game
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>>557460952
never, wait for dlc
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Ronin was unironically a better game than this
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>>557461614
the horse walk cycle disagrees
>b-but they patched it
don't care
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>>557461867
Speaking of walk cycles, does the base samurai run look "off" to you? Ninja run looks fine and sprint is good but just normal run looks weird AF. I don't remember if it was like that in Nioh 2.
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>>557461023
Imagine the ridiculous shit they'll give it in the dlc.
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>>557461867
What's this about?
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>>557462398
default run always looked slightly weird in every nioh game
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>>557462463
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dyRPUyRq6_k
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>>557461614
lmao not even fucking close.

It did somehow have better clothes though.
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>last bosses cool looking straight sword is ninja only
FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>swords get not-flying swallow in ninja mode
Kino
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Does switchglaive get any new toys at all. So far it's exactly the same skills as nioh 2
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>>557463390
for me it's worse than nioh 2's switchglaive, I've done my whole run as tonfa ninja instead
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The tutorial spam is crazy at the beginning holy shit
I think they've fucking told me about Life Corrosion in 4 separate tutorials
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>>557456647
And this is a good thing.

Nioh 2 baby'd players too much by allowing them to completely disrespect humans and not have to learn good ki regen because lol yokai spam along with like 90% of enemies being yokai. In Nioh 1 fighting humans was equally as important as fighting yokai, as humans were almost as frequent and like half the bosses were human.

Now Nioh 3 takes those training wheels away while also giga buffing ki regen on boss humans and forces you to actually learn to have proper ki management and have to learn to be aggressive using your weapons skillset and some players just can't handle it.
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>open the map
>game freezes
alright
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>>557464827
they also deleted the infinite stunlock from god of wind III
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>>557461614
Ronin is good but Nioh 3 blew past expectations
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>>557453663
The three mobs up there in the castle and pic related. No luck talisman.
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I literally can't play anymore the environment won't load
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>>557462398
it looked girly for me which is fair enough but pretty stupid for someone walking with a giant axe so I changed my posture to type 1 and that gave me back the normal nioh running animation.
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>>557465148
I had to fully quit and restart the game.
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NiohGODS, two questions:
>Which weapon has better aerial dash attacks than nin1kat?
>Which weapon has better stationary damage than sam2kat Hold Y blender?
I'm using these right now but I'm open to try new things.
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>sam1kat equipped
>nin1kat equipped
yep, it's gaming time
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How's Caestus bros?

I want to be a big brute and punch demons and suplex them.
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>>557469292
Stop talking to yourself. You make yourself look deranged. If you need attention and friends, met people in real life, not anonymous boards.
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>>557461614
>>557465021
I miss the grapple hook and para-glider desu
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>>557469292
you cute
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What other weapons have instant or near instant affliction application built into their combos on Samurai?

Axes "Bear's Bane - Fire" applies fire pretty much guaranteed on everything. And I'm looking for other weapons that can do that.
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ngl, game is fun AF, just beat the first crucible castle town and i'm already loving the combat

dont' know if it'll dethrone nioh 2 yet since i usually prefer the more linear level based approach but who knows, maybe the other areas will be more interestingly designed
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>>557474348
First zone is the most open, the rest are more hallways and crossroads between nioh levels. Until the last zone anyway.
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Ibaraki-chan L-O-V-E~!
Chopping off Ibaraki-chan's other arm~!
Chaining Ibaraki-chan in my ̶r̶a̶p̶e̶ ̶d̶u̶n̶g̶e̶o̶n̶ love chamber~!
Force her to eat my love juices if she doesn't want ot starve~!
(But only if she begs for it like a good, humble girl)~!
Slap her with her own arms if she's a bad girl for her own good~!
Licking the tears off Ibaraki-chan's face~!
Ibaraki-chan L-O-V-E~!
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>>557468461
Hatchets are pretty good. I think 2kat gets a really good one as a crucible skill too.

blender skills, everyone has them and they're all pretty boring. do something else man
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>go the entire first area not running into caestus drops
>finally craft a pair
>love this weapon
holy shit I can't believe I played 2 and never used these. tips?
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>>557478797
pro tip: dont play like me
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I love this game, but I'm really shit at it. I started with Axe without knowing how OP it is and want to move up from being GRUG SMASH.

What should I use? I was leaning toward Katana. It didn't seem as intense as something like... Caestus.
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Whats a good stat spread for 1kat/fists and splitstaff/tonfas? Ive been pumping everything pretty equally except for skill and constitution, but I figure I can probably optimize more.
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>>557480425
Just pick whatever, 1kat is for snobs who need to substitute the lack of their father's love for internet cred.
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If you don't want Ibaraki-chan stomping your balls you don't really love her.
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>>557480425
Every weapon's moveset shares about 90% of the same inputs, once the controls become second nature it just comes to down which combat animations you prefer
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>>557481806
The issue is that with Axe, I press like only a handful of combos. I've not used that OP spinning skill, but still the weapon is very simple. I'm looking for something similar but maybe one step above so I can keep learning to GIT GUD and actually play the game like an Action Game. I started the game with Odachi but hated it and switched to Axe as soon as I could, so I don't want to touch Odachi.
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>>557480425
Odachi is a good transition. It's still a heavy weapon but it has a bit more going on and requires a bit more finesse.

>>557481306
1kat is just fun, period. Nothing "snobby" about it.

>>557481806
Untrue. Just because there can be similar inputs, the actual skills can vary wildly. I mean you can't seriously think the axe plays exactly like 1kat? Axe relies heavily on singular big skills that rape ki hard so you either want to pick the right moments to pull them off (because of long animations) or go with a grug buiild that lets you power through attacks.
1kat on the other hand has a ton of parries vs humans and more skills that are either really fast and mobile or do a lot of hits.
then you have odachi which has big damage like axe but it has a lot more really defensive tools or universal counter/parries.
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When can you get Hiruko's set? Do you have to rerun his entire crucible?
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>>557482131
Try out spear then, it's a decent middle ground between the higher APM and heavy weapons.

>>557482467
Guy is probably 2 hours into picking up Nioh for the first time ever and none of that shit matters right now. Parry is generally either on middle stance r1 + triangle or forward + guard if the weapon supports it. Snobby faggots just need to info dump their 2000 hours of experience on people who haven't even made it past the demo. Bolting boar got nerfed, too, so you're just giving him inaccurate information.
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>>557482131
i don't know if fists have been changed much but they're fucking fun as hell and have some high execution stuff that's really strong if you used it right
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remember what you're fighting for
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so are the blue summons even worth it?
every time I've tried using them I dont think they've been any help
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why is the game hardest between the boss of kyoto and hiruko imo
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>>557483890
They make great distractions, that's about it. A real player fighting alongside you will generally do better. Generally, I've seen some really stupid Ninja players.
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One of the dlcs will be in ww2 japan, we'll witness the pacific theatre, fight on carrier decks, defend okinawa and slay some yanks n shieet
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Cool tech I learned.

The ki pulse attacks on fists, spear, and 2kat allow you to still use frost moon skills after though with fists and 2kat it's kind of awkward in that you can't do same stance frost (i.e. low stance into low frost), you have to flux into a different skill. Super cool and fun, especially with how fast they are in fists/2kat. I think it's decent on spear just because it allows you to do decent combos from dodge moves (which are quite good on spear) without using proficiency art.
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>>557484464
american yokai would genuinely be really funny and cool
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ninjabros... .we're done
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>in Heian
>fighting at the water
>accidentally fall into the water
>going back
>go to kill a yokai
>fall into the water again before I got my amrita back
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>>557486089
i fear platforming more than any demon or samurai in this game honestly
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>>557484464
I just want a gun weapon type.
Nothing like shooting demons in the face.
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I've been playing a mixture of 1kat and Odachi and I'm still not sure the point of Odachi.

1kat and odachi seem to share a lot of similar skills, yet 1kat just seems to do most of them better and or do more damage. Plus it's crucible skills are overpowered as fuck, while the odachi crucible skills seem insanely average, only one of them being an attack you might use with some frequency...
Plus, it just seems to use an absurd amount of ki in comparison meaning I can often not combo chain as much which is especially bizarre considering all of the stance switching attacks odachi gets.

Can someone please explain this weapon to me? I'm not a new player, I just didn't touch it much in previous games and now that I'm playing it more in 3, it just seems shit...
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>>557487363
Stack damage taken and damage taken while attacking and go unga bunga in heavy armor
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>>557487363
Odachi has better blocking ability and can counter and knockdown nearly every enemy in the game. Odachi also has bigger range and generally deals more ki damage. Pre-Nioh 3, you couldn't deflect odachi's mid stance attacks too which helped a lot.

It's nerfed a lot in Nioh 3 and even in Nioh 2 the seamless combos between stance gimmick was taking (and improved) by switchglaive. The only real thing it got in Nioh 3 is the pole vault move being better cuz air attacks
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Is unarmored death any good?
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>>557490948
>fextralife
says it's 40% bonus
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So there's no way to craft Divines atm?
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I've been to Kyoto at least 5 times in my life why is it nothing like Nioh
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>>557491453
Nope, you need to get them entirely through chance. There was a redditboard that was dedicated to revenant trading, but it's been dead for years.
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>>557491679
Because they cleaned all the Yokai
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>>557491710
Yeah, that place was helpful. This shit is taking me back to getting ethereals in 1.
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>Caestus is a combo weapon where it's god tier mystic art tells you to chain together multiple different martial arts for huge damage and lower ki usage
I'm too slow and uncoordinated for this. But I still want to use a faster weapon....

Is Dual Blade hard?
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>>557492105
No they're probably the easiest weapon to combo with when you get the hang of it.
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>>557491974
you sure about that?
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Do weapons other than Axe and Dual Blades have Ki Pulse attacks?

After using them for so long, I've come to love them so much I have trouble using weapons without them.
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I hate hurting Ubume in these games. Why do they make me do it
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>>557475930
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>>557494479
they need to be put to rest
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>design endgame crafting system
>lock it out until the dlc
scammed
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This is one of the three places in Kyoto I most wanted to see in the game so at least they gave me one bone
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>>557494161
Fists and spear kind of.
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>>557495746
>scammed
exactly why I'm waiting for the complete edition before I buy
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I hope my nigga Shuten Douji comes back in the dlc.
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in ng+ i can only block like 1/3rd of a combo before getting winded
and the same combos kill both samurai and ninja in 2~3 hits
...what were they thinking?
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/v/ told me the game flopped, is it true?
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>>557496907
for an asset flip im sure it did well enough
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>>557495746
yeah this shit is retarded
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>>557496813
you know you can just block and dodge at the same time, you shouldn't be trying to block an entire combo
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>>557496907
i dunno im gonna need to see 50 steam chart threads before i make up my mind
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>>557496907
/v/ says that about every game
stop listening to them
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>>557429928
Why ya'll finna copy distortion2's MC ?
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>>557494161
if yer talking about Winter Wind then yeah, Fists has Rising Gale which functions the exact same way
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The game was obviously a flop. Nioh1 sold a million copies in its first weeks only on a ps4 release. This one got 700k in 4 days both platforms. They heavily screwed up marketing + the only word yo word is "just play the game is mind numbingly easy". Japanese games male bank, even the digimon game shits on this.

It is obviously a quickly made game with minimal resources. I suppose its not a flop as they will get a good profit but nioh will be demoted to a c tier game, send the interns and indians for some bucks.
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>>557498319
word vomit, un-asked for + bad opinion + racist
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>>557498472
How many genders are there?
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>>557497260
i'm comparing samurai to ninja, do you understand? im done ng+
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>>557498664
idiot
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>>557496647
Heh. This post has made me laugh both times you posted it.
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>>557497260
>>557498664
also you should be trying to deflect or you're playing the wrong style
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I was wondering where exactly Nijo Castle is in the area of the map called Nijo Castle and I think I found it. The moat is now a lake and the castle is a ruin inside of it.
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How do i play ninja tonfu? Just spam and dodge? Where do i get that talisman with health on attack?
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>>557498727
you didn't understand the comparison so im the idiot
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>>557464827
Humans are a failure of an enemy type in all 3 games just for different reasons. Nioh 1 humans get themselves stuck in simple AI loops and then the moment their Ki breaks they get infinitely down combo'd. Nioh 2 humans can't be infinitely down combo'd but still get themselves stuck in AI loops which is practically the same thing and you can now mash Yokai skills to win Ki battles for free. Nioh 3 humans functionally don't have Ki mechanics unless you're using a handful of specific abilities/sequences which can manage to push through the regen, but instead will just stand there blocking forever and their AI will fall for the exact same sequence of aggression in the same way every time

The core of the problem is that Nioh's pvp is shit, it has always been shit, and none of the player abilities which are recycled for human enemies were ever designed to be fought against from the opposing side of the screen so you can't make compelling gameplay out of them. The best human fights are against groups of generic bandit mooks, don't give them any block or dodge mechanics because TN clearly can't make those work, just spawn enough basic people with enough health and damage that they're a threat
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Nioh 3 feels like 1/3 the game Nioh 2 was
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>>557498917
if you played on pc you only played nioh 2 after it had its dlc
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>>557498917
no shit, because it's timegated to hell and back
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>>557498976
Base game still had 6 chapters. If we're being generous and say the three main zones in Nioh 3 are the same amount of content (they're not), that's half the game
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>>557498781
Just use demon dance bro.
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>>557498841
Yeah but then those humans pull out their Guardian Spirit which nukes the whole area, applies guaranteed elemental debuffs, drags you into a rape hole, etc. Meanwhile your Guardian Spirit uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shoots them once or charges at them and or still somehow gets hit by the enemy's red attack it's meant to counter

No sympathy for human enemies because they get the actually cool abilities
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>>557498781
giant gaki gives amrita on hit talisman, big toothy fatty (nureppo) gives you heal on amirta
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what is more broken as ninja, 2kat or tonfa?
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What determines the strength of Bloodedge Demons? The one in my game is one-shotting me despite being overleveled in NG.
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>>557499101
Genuinely don’t understand this take. I spent like 10 more hours 100% the first playthrough of 3 compared to 2.
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I do not understand how people can say Nioh 3 is easier than Nioh 2. Outside of Depths shit (which is DLC) which boss in Nioh 2 is even harder than Ibaraki Doji for example? I've played 2 to death and this is mechanically more demanding than any boss in that game.
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i beat the last boss on ng+ without ninja or summons. but i used life leech talisman (so it didnt count)
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Good spots to farm Koroka and Isunade? Need to kill 30 of these fuckers and I have only encountered 3 Koroka through my entire playthrough.
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>>557500925
there's a shrine directly beside a koroka in the 1st crucible baku (i think-- but it does exist)
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>>557500468
how many revenants you killed before it spawns
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>>557501073
Today? 5 maybe.
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>>557500925
Wasn't there one right next to a shrine in the otoroshi mission
>>557500778
I didn't think Ibaraki was hard at all. Shit like Hiruko and all 3 of those demons on the other hand...
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>>557500925
There's an itsumade near a crucible spike location in the mid bottom right of Bakumatsu
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what weapon is most similar to axe
i struggle to use anything complicated
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>>557449871
dont know about that i shit on the game so hard anons started seething and demanding video proof of my gameplay
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>>557501157
Yeah but lamp doesn’t respawn so you only get one per run of the mission. Which is doable but such a chore.
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>>557500778
what? that was one of the easiest bosses in the game, it took me two tries and i am a hyper aggressive retard, she has all these mega slow attacks that i can eat like an idiot and still have time to heal AND attack afterwards

it seems like some people have a very different experience in 3 which is interesting to me
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>>557501703
I've died like 15 times to her which I could check when I play again later because they track that. Maybe I'll kill her later.
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>>557501428
1kat for simplicity. Odachi for vibes.
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>>557501851
i saw that
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>>557502261
I'm retarded
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>>557500778
Aside from Shibata Nioh 2 bosses were kinda bitchmade outside of the dlc. Yeah the snake is the El Filtro for new players but he's honestly fine if you are already used to the game's systems. I think difficulty wise it's more of the same, buffs don't feel as strong as Nioh 1 and 2 but you have a lot of options to be a bastard. Ninja style does make dodging a non-problem however. Nioh 1 might still be the hardest of the 3.
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>>557501703
>it seems like some people have a very different experience in 3 which is interesting to me
Sheer numbers. People will fight stuff at wildly different levels and gear because it's an open world design
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why are tonfa so fucking broken holy shit
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>>557502646
Team Ninja were always Tonfa addicts.
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How do I do damage with Odachi, I feel like I'm barely doing any damage at all... Furthermore, I feel like I have no fucking Ki whatsoever. I even remodeled the damn fucking thing with Heart and it still feels excessively expensive to do any sort of combo...
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hmm, after farming the same spots in crucible a lot, there's definitely something jank about equipment drops.

i'm seeing the same equipment slots drop up to a certain level, but not higher, consistently, and it's the same for both ninja and samurai gear.

the spot i'm farming right now i can get shoes up to lvl 170, waists stop at 165 and chests at 163. weapons go up to 170, but no higher than 161 with crucible modifiers.

this is on level sync. it doesn't seem to matter which region you do the crucible in, but rather which mobs you farm and those mobs have a set item pool and level range on each slot.
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That wind swirling around the arena for the Jakotsu-baba rematch was neat
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>>557502896
Yep. Noticed the same thing, there is a certain level of random but only within a specific loot pool which is tied to specific zones or missions. For example, the last mission does not drop a Samurai Yasakani Magatama. I farmed that map for about two days and I got 15 Yasakani Magatamas. All of them Ninja. I also noticed I got the same types of armor sets and pieces. I had hundreds of the same one exact set. And hundreds of that one Fiery Odachi the last boss uses.
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>>557503446
yeah, but it's good to know at least, now i just gotta figure out where i can get lvl 170 pieces of each armor item, and lvl 170 weapons with crucible modifiers
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Why are all the ninja outfits fucking terrible. I swear 2 had way better shit, even accounting for it being split into samurai vs ninja
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>>557503862
the one thing everyone seems to agree on, even reddit, is that the fashion in Nioh 3 is the absolute worst part, they tried in RotR and it was pretty good, in N3 they didn't try at all
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>>557503916
true
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>light sacred lantern near ubume
>instantly destroys her baby stone
oops
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do you just get both mystic arts now?
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>>557504234
you still need to equip only one
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>>557504234
nvm lol
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>>557503446
final map drops them. Just do the soldiers up above the castle, the 3 swordsman. Literally 170 weapon there and YM for both classes
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Yeah I don't know I'm getting farmed by this boss and making no real progress, she's really really hard. This game has kind of started to get overly difficult now that I'm a little further in and it's getting old. Nioh 2 wasn't this difficutl and a better game for it.
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>>557502861
just go ham with the combo skills once your cum gauge is full
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>>557498917
nioh 2 total playtime 88 hours
nioh 3 + demo playtime 83 hours
unless the dlc combined take less than 5 hours nioh 3 already mogs
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>>557504696
I was doing that. 15. All of them Ninja. And no, I didn't have the Sudama Blessing on. Every video I've found of people farming there too in that exact spot, which is how I got there myself, has shown off a Ninja Yasakani Magatama. Unless I'm the unluckiest man in the world.
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>>557504870
Start deflecting
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Do all of my stats and passives transfer over to my Revenant?

I want to make my Revenant the most annoying cunt in the world to kill. I know people will still probably easily kill them, being that they can just use a giga combo while they're still spawning in, but I still want to try it if it's possible.
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>>557504696
>final map drops them. Just do the soldiers up above the castle, the 3 swordsman. Literally 170 weapon there and YM for both classes
i was farming that for several hours yesterday to get my yasakani with the right grace on samurai (which i got), but i didn't get a single 170 weapon in all that time.

if you have been getting em then there's some other trigger we don't know about yet.
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>>557505294
>>557505440

i have 10+ sitting in my inv mate, it works. using yokai hunter, the other 3pc luckset, the other 5% drop set, tea luck guild, no talisman buff, sudama is a must
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>>557505532
Then maybe it's only possible with the Sudama blessing because without it, 15 in a row. That's just not possible.
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>>557505532
yeah i'm luck boosted, i'll try again for a bit, but haven't had luck with the weapons here
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more like flying bolt-ons amirite
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>>557501428
spear is great.
medium stance: heavy > heavy > heavy > ki pulse
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why does split staff have a gazillion LB+y/x moves lmao.
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Does leveling a core do anything at all if they're in the yin slot?
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>>557502861
>high stance
>light attack into heavy for the double slash
>ki pulse into heavy for the new frost moon attack
>moonlit snow redux into frost moon heavy
>cum meter is now filled
>light attack into frostmoon heavy
>moonlit snow redux into frost moon heavy
if you want to mix it up more you can do
>high stance heavy into mid stance quick into high stance heavy into frost moon
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This set and Kintaro's sets are leagues above just about any other set, fuck me. This shit is absolutely absurd.

Does anything else come close to this for general use and not being as specialized? I want to experiment with other weapons but this set is just so damn overpowered for Caestus.
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>>557505308
I am, it's still just really hard.
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whats with japanese culture and insane scat men?
first elden ring now this
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>>557506372
where the fuck is your yasakani for -1 set bonus so you can unga with 2 piece kintaro on top of that
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People complain about a lot of reused shit but if anything I feel like there was a lot of missed opportunities to bring stuff back
>No Namahage in Heian instead all snow enemies are reskins
>No dual Tsuchigumo + Joro-gumo boss at the spider castle
>No Nue flanked by two Raiju
Feels like a lot of missed opportunities
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i had nearly 80 deaths to soji by the end of ng+
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>>557506506
>first Elden ring
Tatsumaro has appeared in all three Nioh games. He is a mainstay at this point.
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>>557506437
Same question I pose towards China and their obsession with farting in literally everything, from games to Wuxia/Xianxia, and humor in general
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Anybody else switch weapons every era?
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>>557506437
you are 9 years late bro
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>>557506506
I only hit NG+ recently and I don't know where to get it from. I found a revenant dropping my specific set so I farmed him until I got my full set and then I spent a bunch upgrading it.

Basically done nothing. Where do I get it? Is there a guaranteed mission or is it just luck?
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Oh it's the fucking Onmoraki
Speaking of bosses that are just flailing masses
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>>557506647
i started getting tired after dying to fishfag and his gigantic health pool so my soji got sloppy aswell as i just tried to grug through him for another attempt on ng+
on further difficulties i will do his shitty ass sidequest instead
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Bros how do I make splitstaff feel a little bit more fun? Is it just doomed to be boring?
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>>557507046
I'm getting the distinct impression I may not be able to cheese this by spamming mist, fucking AOE slams
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>>557507025
just luck
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>>557506861
I switch weapons every 20 minutes, which is starting to get punishing because the influx of locks has slowed down a lot.
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>>557507214
Just shoot the horn if you can’t hit it. Boss becomes a sitting duck then.
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shami-choro's spirit skill is so fucking good
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>>557507452
I can't part with Kurama Tengu's enemy sensor
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Why is it when I use Frost Moon into a different stance, I need to double click it. Why can't I just set this up to be my flux?

It feels very clunky like this.
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This fag is really really hard. I don't get how people think this game is easy man. You have no stamina to work with, compared to Nioh 2 at least, you do no damage and enemy damage caught up a lot by act 2.
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>>557507648
yeah that's the other good one
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i tried bloodedge after finishing ng+ and he was just an easy little baby
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>>557508149
this guy is just hard not much too it
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>>557507452
Why? I used it for the full 4th act mostly because of her stats, but in terms of damage the default water dude I cbf looking up beats her by a mile since it's both higher + lets you back attack. Whereas for the summoned version, the water dude slows and seemingly does more damage still
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>>557508149
i think this is the boss that made me switch from samurai only to "hybrid"
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>remodel my weapon to use the stats i have the most of
>do wayyyy more damage
wooooooooow?! no way????????
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>>557508379
it comes out in like half a second and hits really far ahead of you so you can burst counter everything very easily
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>>557507686
Because attacking on flux is a different command and weapons which have that natively are able to use both that and Frost Moon in succession
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>>557508507
I did like the instant counter but honestly, I don't think there was a single attack until then I couldn't counter with the water dude. But then again I don't think I've ever been hit while attempting to counter with her. So that's a plus. I just always felt she was lackluster besides the stats
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>>557508149
in general the bosses in nioh 3 are harder but regular enemies are harder in 2.
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What online gameplay does this game have
Need to decide if IM FOOOOOOOOMOING
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>beneath a pure white flag
Again, the human bosses delete half my health bar in one hit while Yoshitsune does comparatively little damage
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>>557508149
this guy took me like 50 attempts. genuinely difficult.
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scots irish represent lets goooo
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>>557509381
oi kasha pass the bucky pal
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>>557509381
cannon chad is a bro
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>playing nioh 1
>51% of people filtered by Deep in Shadows, the second main mission
lmao, anyone saying the games haven't gotten easier should really go back and play them again.
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How does the Japanese population thrive when every town and village is destroyed or raided by yokai and bandits and everyone is killed?
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>>557509815
if big balls did not filter them then paralysis mommy did
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>>557509815
I'm being filtered by the dogshit engine which can't render its own overworld properly
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>>557510186
japs much like chinamen are created by a combination of rice and water which are found in unlimited quantities
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>>557498841
>Nioh 3 humans functionally don't have Ki mechanics unless you're using a handful of specific abilities/sequences which can manage to push through the regen, but instead will just stand there blocking forever and their AI will fall for the exact same sequence of aggression in the same way every time
Not true at all. There's always variance with the enemies dodging and deciding not to block. There is no guaranteed to work 100% sequence against human bosses and this isn't considering specific bosses who might have counters or hyper armor or whatever.

Nioh 3 forces you to engage with all of your systems to be able to actually rape the boss. Which is unlike either 1 or 2 and messing something up can easily lead to death because of how high the damage is on the bosses.

Also you forgot a lot of human bosses in Nioh 1 had living weapon which gave them hyper armor on everything and how much more difficult it made them to fight.
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>>557509815
I think most people here or anywhere else always said the first game is the hardest. 2 is the most popular so that's what people reference the most for comparison.
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>>557502861
moonlight snow redux
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>>557505308
NTA, but can you deflect the arm attacks too? I might have to start trying that, my dodging skills are shite
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If you want to be a visitor in someone's world, do you have to be within their level range? How does visitor calculations work?
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>>557510186
Japan exists in this simultaneous state of
>poor peace-loving japan never did anything wrong :(
and
>JAPAN NUMBER ONE NIPPON BANZAI GLORY TO THE EMPEROR
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>>557508149
What was the fag's name in Nioh 2 who walled shitters left and right? This is him in 3 now i feel like.
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>>557510982
The onmyo guy? Yeah, I can see the resemblance. This guy spams summons instead
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>>557510738
you can deflect everything except grabs and red attacks and the game becomes completely trivial when you deflect most attacks
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>>557510982
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I must confess I never thought I'd have to outrun machine gun fire in a Nioh game
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I love Kongojishi, just uppercut everything to oblivion.
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>>557510386
Living weapon isn't a "humanoid" fight because living weapon doesn't have any human mechanics
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>>557510982
SAITOOOOO TOSHIMITSUUUUUU
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>>557510982
Well he was included in an update so he only walled people who played after the update. I wonder if we will get updates like that in 3.
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>>557506626
I'm of the mind that this game doesn't reuse enough. I was expecting a lot more old characters even if they just appear for a duel and to drop their equipment, especially given that time travel is part of the plot.
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>>557510386
>Nioh 3 forces you to engage with all of your systems to be able to actually rape the boss. Which is unlike either 1 or 2 and messing something up can easily lead to death because of how high the damage is on the bosses.
Grug hit square. Grug hit triangle. Grug behind 70% damage reduction.
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>>557511554
Retard
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I feel like being able to use Guardian Skills while winded is too overpowered. You don’t really have to watch your Ki when you got such a get-out-of-jail-free button almost always ready to go.
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>>557501703
I really like this fight. She's way more like an older boss than all these new ADD spam bosses.
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>>557506626
You WILL fight Ryomen Sukuna and Enenra over and over and you will like it
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just finished "drawn to yokai incense" battle scroll. i was fucking around and went through most of my elixirs on the first boss...
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i didnt get a piece of loot over 160 on my last 3 battle scrolls @ ~lvl 200. how does this shit work?
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>>557500778
I find it way easier during stages and open world and while the bosses seems more aggressive now I'm redpilled on stacking elemental onmyo for easy confusion which destroys them. Nioh 2 even with the elemental weapon it wasn't so easy for me to get confusion on them, and on top of that the burst counter timings completely sucked in Nioh 2 for me, while in 3 they are way easier, for the better or worse, so even attacks I see for the first time I just counter them usually.
But I'm less interested in BS difficulty and more actually good gameplay, in that sense the game fucking delivers. I just think good gameplay without difficulty doesn't exist, but it's not like the game is actually braindead easy either, I just expected a little bit more. Maybe they went too far in making deflects easy with Ki gain on top of attacks that requires no ki which can be chained, but combos and chain system in games are KINO and I'm glad they added it.
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What a goofy bitch. Can't even tell whats an attack while in the dark realm.
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>>557516356
>Can't even tell whats an attack
its always the same shit with these oversized blobs and none of them are ever fun to fight
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is there a setting to disable the big ass notifications from kodama/jizo statues? I've searched the menus and couldn't find one but maybe I'm blind
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>>557513469
Literally the same thing as Nioh 2 with soul cores, except Kasha was even more busted because it healed you, lasted long enough so you can beat their shit in while it beyblades, and applied burn so your corruption/purity weapon will apply confusion
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>>557509381
Good guy, only one in the game with balls enough to mention William/Anjin by name.
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>Find Sarutobi's Gunsticks
>Game doesn't have Gun Tonfa anymore
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>>557517883
They seriously better fix this.
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>what if we made the final region of our game about time traveling the same period as the game we just released
why couldn’t they have picked literally any other fucking time are you kidding me
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>>557517883
Bolting Boar was nerfed in Nioh 3.
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I do not blame William for being Guardian Spirit sexual because I too would fuck Kurama Tengu.
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Kunimatsu is the first boss to actually give me trouble since shingen
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>>557519397
>get to half hp
>pull out double kat and equip hyper armor
nothing personnel anon
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Does using guardian spirit skills count as while attacking?
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>>557518810
Gee idk maybe because Bakumatsu is an iconic period and Nioh has demons and yokai while ronin didn't. Are you retarded?

The only issue with doing bakumatsu is that it proves that Ronin isn't actually connected to any of the other games.
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does the spear just do a lot of damage? my scythe has better scaling and is 162 + 4 vs my spear's 158 + 3 by the heavy attacks do 1400 vs 1000
my odachi was somewhere in between and its heavy was around 1k as well
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>>557519895
Why the fuck would a historical drama be connected to a fantasy demon hunting game you retarded nigger?
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>>557519964
Spear has always been amazing even since the first game but nobody respects it. Low stance spear has been my go to for cheesing the game since day 1 of the original
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Kunimatsu on ng+ filters me :(
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>>557520108
he was so easy, just steamroll him anon
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My fellow NiohCHADS.
What a blessing this game has been. I don't know if it's better than Nioh 2, but my gut tells me with the DLC it definitely will be. 94 hours played including the demo, 100%'d.
Opened some sparkling wine to celebrate finishing NG.
The last boss is KINO. He has so many moves relative to his health pool. It's actually a really quick fight, only took 4 minutes on the attempt I killed him. Usually by 1 minute he's either half health or I'm dead!
Enjoy your game and I'll see you at the end of NG+!!!
>t. conch enjoyer
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>>557521680
bring the fashion from RotR and i'll agree Nioh 3 > Nioh 2, atm it's still Nioh 2 for me
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>>557521862
I didn't play ROTR due to irl stuff taking up my time. I loved Wo Long though. Would you recommend ROTR and SOP? I am going to be on the road soon and I was thinking of getting a PS5 to play more conveniently (can't take my tempered glass monstrosity everywhere lol)
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>>557522087
i never played SOP, i did like Rise of the Ronin though, cool combat, cool setting, blend of west and east, never had performance issues personally
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>>557520108
He’s just an asshole
>Attacks with hyper armor stronger than yokai
>Lots of delayed attacks that force you to learn the time
>annoying projectile with strong homing
>High damage
>Phase 2 transition is completely immune and kills your positive momentum
Only boss that gave me significant trouble on my playthrough.
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>>557522303
>>557522467
Which guardian spirit skills do you guys use? I found the most useful to the be Guhin claw attack, everything else I tried was either too delayed, too weak, or could miss the enemy.
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>>557512336
>retard
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>>557519973
You are really upset and angry for no reason.

Anyways the concept explained through nioh and wo long is that part of what creates these demons are war and suffering. The bakumatsu era in comparison is much more peaceful so the idea was as time went on, yokai faded and magic wasn't necessary so they became myths. It's not an unreasonable theory and Wirriam is a hidden boss (though not explicitly named)
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friendly reminder that switchglaive heavy stance hold triangle in cum mode is infinite (glitch I assume)

have fun
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Whats the deal with the amount you can offer? Why can't you give it all your gold?
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>>557522690
Kongojishi and Axe monkey gameplay. On reflection he felt like a heavy counter to how I was playing. Every other human boss I fought got ki broken and shoved in a corner. Kunimatsu ate the hits, did 1k damage to me and immediately regained his ki. He’s a hit and run boss in ninja form if you ask me.
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>>557522853
>>557522853
>Anyways the concept explained through nioh and wo long is that part of what creates these demons are war and suffering.

Here's the explanation.
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>>557523114
I don't know how that works. I've only ever given the highest amount you can and one time it was a mujina.
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So the Shinsengumi wear black & red instead of white & blue because Crucinite?
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>>557523114
It's usually like 4999, I always offered the max amount.
>>557522853
It always amuses me in Nioh games how they use yoki and other yokai as normal troops in cutscenes. Like they're actually very intelligent.
>>557522853
The events of the DLC will explain the decline of yokai that makes ROTR the uncorrupted (non-kunimatsu'd) timeline.
also I decapitated him lol
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>>557523548
>yoki and other yokai as normal troops in cutscenes. Like they're actually very intelligent
You presume your average human soldier has any intelligence
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>>557523718
I mean, compared to a crab or something.
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the kusa is so shit...
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>>557524437
You might even call it
Kuso
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I want weapon and ability that will rinse bosses. No more thinking.
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>>557524472
...kek
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Can someone just spoil me. What makes Nioh 3 an actual sequel? Nioh 2 didn't seem like a sequel until suddenly it was at the end with pseudo time traveling. Nioh 3 is obviously connected to the other games just by the shared characters and direct references to previous protags but in what way is it a real sequel, how does it connect to the stories of 1 and/or 2?
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it's just more nioh man
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>>557522467
I don't remember struggling with him like that on ng. Maybe I just got lucky then. But on ng+, he destroys me.
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>>557524437
i was trying to focus on samurai most of the game, so i just stuck w/ it. i thought it was cool because you eventually get mythic art for more ki damage. towards the end of the game i try katana and it breaks ki better but also teleports all over the place... what the fuck man
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>bakumatsu era
>no sick as fuck shinsengumi outfits
should be a crime
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>>557511214
https://youtu.be/O-OXQCp_t50
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>>557526571
That is very fun to do
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should i start with nioh 2 as a newfag? its heavily discounted right now and from what i've heard thats a steal
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>>557527238
If you're gonna buyfag and can't even consider pirating 3 then sure
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Hayatemaru for shogun
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Kodama for shogun.
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>>557527238
start with 1
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Now that the dust has settled, what's the final /vg/erdict?
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Wait, there's only 1 ng+ cycle? There's nothing beyond way of the shogun?

Fucking lame. Where's my 5 tiers of ng+? Or at least 1 more prior to dlc release.
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>>557528948
Good game, unfortunately quite ugly
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoZk_PIx-dQ
Behold, the only banger track to come out of 3.
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>>557528948
I'm still on chapter 1.
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Why did they rob /ourgirl/ Ibaraki of a proper power-up mode? All the other main story boss yokai got one.
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>>557528948
Soji a cute
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>>557529070
Always been that way, only one NG+ at launch, then one more with each DLC.
Granted, Nioh 3 will only have a two-part DLC instead of three-part like 1 and 2, so I'm not entirely sure if we'll get the usual +4 by the end or if they'll stop at +3 this time.
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>>557520564
>i died 119 times in my whole first playthrough
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>>557529567
Damn i'm a retard then, i've always bought nioh late in the cycle once all the dlc is out, so this is the first time playing base game
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>>557529303
Forgot pic
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>>557529961
They needed to make her equally weak as her bro
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>>557529961
Should have gotten the shirtless buff like Tengu.
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>>557516356
>>557516495
I'll take any number of these over shitty human bosses
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>>557511105
fuck this guy
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>>557525035
the tv show uniforms were pretty shit tbqh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhXbeqfyxzw
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>>557529961
She's perfect and the devs knew it
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>>557514225
i agree it's a very pleasing fight just in general
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What the hell was up with all the centipede imagery in the Bakumatsu crucibles? I was expecting a centipede boss but instead I got Iudex Gundyr in the first and a guy with carps in the second.
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>>557528948
fashion sucks dick, combat is great, "open zone" is fine, gonna need both DLC's before it knocks Nioh 2 off the throne
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>>557530880
they were badass in kenshin
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>>557529672
i make the game a bit harder for myself intentionally, learning to deflect every boss move, not using certain cheese tactics etc.

you can make every boss pretty easy by stacking the deck with all the tools available in the game
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>>557528948
good game
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>>557529961
saved for dlc when she'll have her own side mission where you have to beat her up again and then have sex with her
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>>557530924
Part of the idea with that crucible was of them being under a harsh judge, two amrita corpses really sell this (is this punishment for me squishing a centipede/what's the punishment for lying). Thinking about it, might be referencing Tokugawa Tsunayoshi? Who was a strict shogun that implemented laws protecting nature.
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Does Deflection Expert stack with Sword's mystic art Sword of Salvation that also increases the deflection windows?
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>>557527238
1 is for real chads but it is objectively harder
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Opportunist + Deflect is honestly crazy, I'm invincible.
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>>557532162
until you start abusing living weapon at which point it gets insanely easy
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i really like the AAAAAAA when you hold triangle on tonfas
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>bakegani actually have normal crab eyestalks
shiver me timbers
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>>557529882
and it only came out on pc after the dlc
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>have stinky swamp in game
>no stinky rat yokai just crabs
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>>557532926
Didn't even bring back mudman baka
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Been spending afterlives living in a scampuss paradise
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>>557532540
You can say that about all the games
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Well, Demon of Obsession proved easier than the other two, if only because I've learned now to run rings around bosses with Mist
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>>557527238
Nioh 1 is kinda clunky. I played Nioh 2 first and had a lot of fun beating 2 and 3 but am only playing through nioh 1 for the first time now while I wait for 3's updates.
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>>557533467
Yeah, he is pretty slow and predictable. Envy is the worst one for me because I can't fucking tell where her fire hitboxes start and end when she spazzes out.
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>>557432954
1933-45 would be a fucking dope era
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>>557533681
Takechiyo... the Chinese are using spirit stones... we have no choice but to massacre them...
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>>557438513
>Umbracite
I cooped for a few hours with some auto sell filters on and made like 400k per host if we went through and progressed at least 2 bosses
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I know it will never happen for very obvious reasons, but post-1945 Hiroshima would make an excellent setting for a DLC. Stories of shit like ant walkers would lend themselves excellently to the franchise.
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>>557439070
Try one of the retreating guardian spirits
>Out of ki
>Ki pulse
>Evade backwards
>Buffer with spirit to retreat and do damage
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>crucible wraith itsumade
>now the real nioh 3 beg-
>oh, it's dead
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>>557441250
>Join persons group
>I'm the only one that doesnt die to it
>Don't even get hit
>Sword of meditation is face in
Lmao looks like those hundreds of Nioh 2 attempts paid off
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>>557533145
2 has a bunch of elaborate game mechanics around its super mode and it doesn't really work that great unless you build around it, it feels fair. in 3 you can't at all. in 1 you literally just get to 1hp with suzaku and reforge all your gear with (common) crit modifiers and it lasts the whole mission
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>>557441781
>Fromsoft invented boss phases
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well actually on that note is this any good
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>>557441282
A good chunk of his moves are borrowed from the minamoto guy in heian
Hell, practically all of the kunimatsu related fights have similar dodge patterns and timings, with typically one added layer
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>>557451364
+Set this option in the options to get a prompt to do it every shrine
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>>557454967
As anon said trade
But it's glory so just kill all the revenants you see
>>557455202
That's the only way to fight it dingus, you don't upgrade the appropriate guardian spirit vein until you do
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>>557456085
It's correct since ninja has no ki pulse
Ki regen on deflect is also a thing so I guess they figured samurai was covered
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>>557534457
No, it's shit. I tested it out and it barely moves the gauge
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>>557528948
Personally? Great but has warts, no regret on buying the ultimate edition like the Nioh whore I am.
>pile of thoughts
https://rentry.org/N3Piece

>>557533843
...Pls don't tell me I have to co-op to make money. Also 400k still sounds like pocket change when soul-matching is in the hundreds of millions per piece of gear to put them to end-game quality at present.

>>557534457
Can test in the training grounds to get more specific information on how much it raises the bar (is it a flat per-hit or do meatier hits raise the gauge more?).
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>>557534457
Do you use living artifact at all?
I must've used it like 7 times in my playthrough, 3 times on accident early on
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>every shogun you meet, be it Ieyasu, Yoritomo, or Yoshinobu, has the mindset that you have to be ruthless to succeed as shogun and it is worth it for the sake of lasting peace
>some people still spare Kunimatsu in the final mission
Way to miss the entire point of what it means to be shogun.
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>>557535092
yes because it looks cool and there's a title for using it x times
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Is there an option to hide your secondary weapon anywhere?
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>>557535231
trueeeeeeeee
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>>557535468
You can hide sheathed weapons in basic settings
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>>557535468
There is during photo mode I know, not sure about at other times.
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>>557535026
Agreed about Ibaraki, her intro felt like they were planning something more with her
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>>557535231
>I beat the will out of these people to be like this over the course of nearly 2000 years
>Therefore I will now become the same
>And this is a logical progression
Fuckin lmao speak for yourself
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1st try Minamoto no Yoritomo
1st try Hiruko
15 deaths to kunimatsu
1st Nuribotoke
The boss balance in this game is kinda ass honestly
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>>557535026
>>557535584 (me)
Also I agree on enemy placements. It's not just a ninja thing. They're super sparse, barely any ambushes, and it's super easy to only have 1 on 1 fights even if you aren't popping heads off with the rifle/bow to start them.
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>>557535453
Well yeah then I'd say it's good
You'll want to build a build that can fuel your spirit gauge so you can spam guardian skills to fuel your amrita gauge for living artifact
>>557535026
You don't have to, but coop is fun and if they suck you get an extra exciting scaled up boss
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>>557535584
Shuten/Ibaraki DLC double fight
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>>557535826
Not possible. Ibaraki is my wife now and she lives in my onmyo box.
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>>557535724
What would you say was the hardest in Nioh 2
Other than saito ofc
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>>557535826
Odd that they didn't include any post-game double fight battle scrolls, those were pretty infamous in the previous games for being among the hardest challenges. 3 only has gauntlets. .
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>>557535561
Yes, but I want only the weapon that's active to show even when it's sheathed.
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>>557536047
50% sure next to that is the option to hide inactive weapons
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>>557535724
did you fight them honorably though anon?
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>>557527459
>>557528538
>>557532162
>>557533597
alright, cheers
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>other games let you hide your secondary weapons but keep your main one showing
>nioh 3 is all or nothing. either you look like a walking arsenal or you have nothing.
who the fuck greenlit this change
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Am I missing something or did they really decide to back-load literally all of the cestus transformed arts to the end of the game? Just beat the age of antiquity and the only one I have is still just Limitless Tough.
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Man, even the kusarigama master's a shitter
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>>557520108
Okay, I switched back to 1kat and got him on the first attempt after that.
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>>557535950
Hard to say considering I played dlcs on dream of the demon/wise/nioh but overall I’d say the worst one is Tate Eboshi

>>557536109
No summons and no todo clan 2000 health buff. So yeah I guess.
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>>557536295
oh i'm sure they'll add that feature back in with DLC and pretend they did something
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>>557536120
Iirc in nioh2 due to the nature of your character you have a counter ability (proactive/defensive/evasive) and a morph ability(a final fantasy esque summon) and a form change ability (super mode ala DMC/some ninja gaiden)
So that mechanically manifests as three get out of jail free cards if you get stun/stamina broken
Which lends alot to the game's "ease" and more importantly how aggressive you can be, since they also trigger your stamina regen and don't cost any stamina so they can be strung in on your combo or aggression chain
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>>557536515
>No summons and no todo clan 2000 health buff. So yeah I guess.
that's good anon, no sloth either right?
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>only have 23 stamina for armor weight purposes
>join todo
>my hp literally doubles from 2k to 4k
This has to be bugged right
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I've been using the crimson general set with Ii bonuses for the whole game and I just got to the final era. Is there a better set for odachi at this point or should I just keep upgrading my current armor?
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>>557536515
Oh my man
Tate eboshi stole so many afternoons, I had to break and just completely play differently from every other enemy
Only other boss that did that iirc was the freaking white laser tiger think
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>>557536612
No lol
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>>557536612
Does anyone actually use Sloth in 3?
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>>557536104
It's not.
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>>557536695
I swapped over to abusing damage reduction while attacking but I like to cycle between axe and odachi so you might get more out of the Crimson General if you're just an Odachi chad.
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>>557536864
Plenty of revenants ive summoned do
sword of meditation breaka revenant ai though so I just walk into them, slowly, and 1shot them regardless
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What's the highest level of rarity for soul cores currently in the game?
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What are some good 1kat combos?
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>>557537354
I really like shadow sword => light in darkness
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>>557537354
Samurai? Get behind your enemy and ki blast
Vs humans? Sword of meditation
Many enemies? Ki blast
Else mid strong is p good
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Do you have any utilities to button inputs on the screen so that. I can record them? I swear I'm pressing block and it's just not working sometimes.
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I don't get how the fuck the forge unlocks work in this game. Previously you needed smithing texts for nearly everything(either through drops or mission rewards) but I feel like I have unlocked something new every time I go to the smithy in 3 without any new texts.
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>>557535584
Just wanted to add for the Period of Missed Potential. We have a sibling rivalry with one wanting to be Shogun and, unless my memory is far off, there's no moment where it tries to play off as a mirror to Takechiyo or Kunimitsu.

>>557535989
Those cancerous fights stopped with Nioh 2 unless I'm forgetting a demon scroll. The main exception being Gozuki and Mezuki, but even then they were handled with great care each time they did it (either it's delayed so you can DPS one down before the other spawns like in that Matsunaga sidequest or they deal no fucking damage in Hideyoshi's castle). The closest to a gank boss fight is Itsumade with adds in one of the abyss level templates (fucking cannons), and maybe if you co-op in the abyss?
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>>557537687
I just assume my 8bitdo needs waking up and I have this issue
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>>557537846
Kunimitsu should have back-stabbed Hiruko and stolen his power for one last fight.
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I can't actually play the game and just cheesed most of ng with ninjutsu spam and then everything post act 2 of ng+ with muh spin2win heal on amrita absorption axe setup
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Is the brave demon hunter a rank strength damage bonus as good as it seems?
>1kat already scales with strength
>set gives additional scaling
>can get affixes for additional strength scaling
>essentially triple dipping into strength, a stat that already scales most weapons
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>>557537846
Wo long is tailor made for being ganked
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why are 95% of the nurikabe red gestures lol
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>>557537846
Rise of the ronin had an optional 3v1 near the end of the game that legitimately made me lower the difficulty to the lowest option just to finish it
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>>557538124
A kino end but you want a murai
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>>557536695
I'm just using tatenashi again.
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>>557537846
>>557538471
Ronin has a bunch of post game multi-enemy fights and it gets pretty absurd. There is an infamous 2v1 in the main story as well.
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>the use spirit stones button in the level up screen does the math for you
fucking finally holy shit
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>>557538474
It just felt lacking that it was some seething ghost guy doing all the manipulation when it would have been much more fitting for a would-be shogun raised amongst court intrigue vying with his brother for the title to play the barbarian like a fiddle and dispose of him when he's no longer of use.
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>>557538338
>>557538471
Ah, Wo Long was a game I did get to NG+ on but by the time DLC came around, I wasn't really in a position to play it (cooling issues) and didn't exactly long to return it. And I didn't touch RotR, was mostly looking at a Nioh context.

And because the thoughts don't stop coming on how NG+ is just mid for a first impression.
>Bases
Why aren't there 2-3 formats they can have per area so that it isn't just repeating the same bases over and over? Maybe for the enemy bases you could be more liberal with the use of bosses to finish the area off (port over some of the good Nioh 1/2 bosses or even the bosses you don't have an easy rematch for like Great Tengu and Yoritomo). Furthermore the areas could've used more of the 2nd/3rd region enemies, the coasts could've had mermaids, some of the mountainous areas have Tengus. Something so it doesn't feel like I'm just repeating the same 90% I just finished as these region enemies mix and match in ways they don't in NG (there's no area where you fight all three jailer onis at the same time).
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>>557538203
Does the set effect even stack with the affix for strength scaling?
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best form
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>On the way to beat Takeda in chapter 1
>start meeting people I've never seen before on the way to him
>remember I have some regions of the map that I never went to because the game never asked me to
lol.
Do I.. go back now and finish the map? Or beat Takeda first and come back later?
I still fought him and nearly got him on the first attempt.
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>At last, I was finally able to defat you :)
>*dies with a smile*
>Was I just an annoying little brother to you?

What the fuck is this dialogue? Obviously not when she spent an eternity hunting you down and dedicated her life to defeating you.
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>>557528948
game good
give dlc now
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>>557539323
Extremely underutilized. Not even included as a transformation.
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>>557538896
Yeah but team ninja are actually a bunch of bums who just reuse assets and do the same thing every game. Truly a blight on the gaming industry.
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>>557534205
>just make this endgame set and the game is easy lmao
the only difficulty that matters is ng
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I feel like the timeloop was a little underexplained, or maybe I skipped some dialogue. Was the reason Ieyasu appointed Takechiyo as shogun instead of Kunimatsu because he recognized them from his past? I assume so but I don't think it was ever elaborated on.
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>>557528948
Rise of the ronin is a better game but you’re not ready for that conversation
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>>557528948
Kinoh, really excited for the dlcs
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>>557540392
nobody cares about divine bait you need ethereal anon
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>>557540392
Nioh 3 is better but there's a lot to appreciate in RotR and it deserved better reception.
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>>557539397
im 99% sure theres some fucky localization going on
she straight of says OTOTO (which iirc is nip for lil bro) in some lines and the captions have no subjects in their straucture
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>>557528948
Excited for new areas for the DLC, not really feeling higher difficulties given how NG+ has been handled in the basegame.
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>>557540262
>I feel like the timeloop was a little underexplained, or maybe I skipped some dialogue. Was the reason Ieyasu appointed Takechiyo as shogun instead of Kunimatsu because he recognized them from his past? I assume so but I don't think it was ever elaborated on
my interpretation of events is
>Was the reason Ieyasu appointed Takechiyo as shogun instead of Kunimatsu because he recognized them from his past?
Ieyasu could be argued as naming the (yourdude) after the takechiyo that saved him many years ago
"he/she even has my name so i think ill name them after that dude that once saved my ass"
>I assume so but I don't think it was ever elaborated on.
this is blatatnly untrue
He had just gotten done unifying japan, so naturally the martially superior kunimatsu's skillsets are not compatible with a time of peace, and you can argue he was looking to appoint a ruler of japan who would not steer japan into war
and thats just from playing Nioh3
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DLC where Takechiyo now Shogun Iemitsu kills Christians and reforms the Pleasure House into including little boys instead of female yokai as historically accurate Iemitsu would have when?
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>>557500778
It took me 10 hours to beat the first mission in Nioh 2
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>>557541576
so whats the bingo list
>super japan/ninja gaiden
>1944
>nioh2 land
>bakumatsu but not a fucking wasteland
>zack island?
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>>557540218
you get suzaku halfway through the game and like i said crit modifiers are white rarity which means you can get them at any time during NG
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For a split second when Yoshinbou parried that finisher I thought there'd be another phase
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>>557541940
Never, that was all Kunimatsu pretending to be you or some shit, Nioh is all whitewashed revision of history + demons did it
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>>557542025
We already know, the Chinese dlc names tell you when they're set
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>>557542025
labyrinth level
powercreep spirits
copy pasta weapons from rotr
copy pasta the otakemaru redemption storyline from nioh 2's dlcs
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so is this boss cool? i didn't let it move so idk
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>>557542335
ATATATATATATATATATA
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>>557506647
>>557507070
first try meanwhile I died like 20 times against hiruko
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>>557542335
Phase 1 good, feels like an honest Nioh 1 fight.
Phase 2 bad, boss is having a seizure and you just hit the glowing crystals for massive ki damage like a dishonest Nioh 1 fight.
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>>557542602
yeah that's the vibe i got
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>>557507070
if it helps you feel any better fishfuck is cancer imo since yokai mode him is just a liiiiiittttttle too high off the ground for god damn near any attack
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Ah, there's the Gozuki and Mezuki double feature I'd been expecting
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>only getting ninja yasakanis
Does a samurai version even exist
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Did they not put in any DLC teasers this time around? I distinctly remember both 1 and 2 having post-credit scenes hinting at the DLC.
Not that it matters all too much given that we know the periods already, but it would be nice nonetheless.
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>>557542151
meh, in light of DoA7 being announced i think an evil zack island would be dope af
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ninja 1kat is cool
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that one part where you fought on the same side with the 2 yokai was like the only time I've been excited in bakumatsu since the very beginning with the red light district
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Where the hell is the 5th one, I'm going crazy here.
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>>557545295
click left on the D-pad and see what you're missing, then look up a youtube collectible video to see where it is
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>>557545705
Found it, it was behind a Nurikabe wall.
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Ok, as consolation for that gauntlet, I would like a nice easy final boss please.
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>>557546406
oh never mind, now I have to fight the fucking death veil, apparently.
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What are some good sets for 1kat? Just started Bakumatsu and wanted to start actually trying for equipment instead of just hitting the autoequip and slugging it out with every boss.
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>>557547054
I'm still crutching with heavy armor but I think I'll go with brave demon hunter or minamoto later. Unless there's some good heavy armor set.
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>>557546478
Only judging samurai, because I don't use ninja beyond grinding crucible arts
>S
1kat
>A
2kat
big kat
>B
Axe
Fists
>C
Spear
>D
Switchglaive
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>>557546478
Ok.
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>>557547398
>>557547640
Explain to an axe shitter like me why 1kat is so good please.
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REMINDER THAT IF YOU USED TONFAS YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME
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>>557546569
Ok, NOW give me an easy cinematic final boss
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>>557548834
One of the highest damage single hit skill in the game (meditative strike)

Very high ki damage and regular damage martial arts

Fast hitting, high damage, low ki usage

Don't get me wrong i cheesed ng+ with an axe spin2win crucible art and heal on amrita hit, but 1kat is ridiculously highly tuned
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>>557549476
...goddammit
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>>557547640
looks like we got a man of culture here
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>>557549678
Ok, second try, wasn't that bad. He just smacked me good and early on the first attempt.
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>>557542219
>copy pasta weapons from rotr
Oxtail blade my beloved
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Dumb Nioh 3 questions.
>Does item drop rate boost equipment drop rate or just consumable items?
Considering meming with Swallowtail + Ebisu but I'm wondering who's 7 PC I should go for (more luck for more damage + better gear or more item drop rate to get more pulls on the drop machine).
>Ki resetting bases = item drop rate increases
Can anyone explain what is happening here? I've checked pre-recapture and post with the Sudama blessings and I that's unchanged so I don't know what this is referring too.
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So is there a particular reason the two dragons are named after the two different names for that one sword?
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>>557546478
yes
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>>557548834
For me, it's because axe is all slow and committed attacks. 1kat isn't the fastest weapon (that's fists or 2kat, or ninja as a whole), but it's faster than the axe, however it does have one of the best slow and heavy attacks in sword of meditation, which for this category of attacks is also good because it keeps moving you forward, and the range of attacks like that is often an issue. It also has some great defensive options (increased deflect window mystic art, auto block on severing strike, several hard parries, although 2kat has those easier to pull off, at leasf for me), big aoe attack for clearing trash mobs (severing strike), an attack that quickly puts you behind the enemy while dealing good damage (swift step heavy, this helps avoid some enemy attacks easily), and more. It's just super versatile, and has an answer for most situations. The only thing that I feel it's missing is a continues charge attack, like axe spins, 2kat water sword etc. Those can be superior to sword of meditation against enemies you can stagger like some masters.
It's not a 1kat supremacy level like in rotr, but it's still the best option in the game for me.
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>>557546478
>S TIER:
>A TIER:
Spear, Ninja Katana
>B TIER:
Switchglaive, Hatchets
>C TIER:
Odachi, Splitstaff
>D TIER:
Kusa

These are the only 7 I used enough of
Spear has simple big damage pokes, and some cool stuff too
Odachi does too little damage compared to Spear and Axe, but it has some strong moves (cheat moves, even). I could put it B but I'm salty about its low damage and you should be too
Kusa does nothing well... I guess you can bully some humanoids with the weight
Splitstaff was... a better kusa, worse hatchets. It felt like somewhere in between
Hatchets didn't do much damage but they felt good
Ninja Katana is nimble, and does good Ki damage
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>>557551041
Oh right: Switchglaive... borderline bad (lowish damage, some slow attacks), but has some reliable martial arts and cool combos.
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>>557551041
Have you tried Odachi's floor sweeper spam on arts proficiency?
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>>557551041
Ninja 1kat having the mystic art for even more damage from behind is p. wild imo, that and the heavy attack chain after a light attack does really good damage, as well as decent ki damage.
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>>557551258
Only after I saw (your?) gif... It was doing like ~650? a hit forever. SEEMED SICK. Switchglaive has a bad version of it too
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I need dlc already.

I've beaten all the masters and gotten all the shit i cared about, and beat the last boss on ng+. Without something like abyss i have absolutely no reason to farm for stuff, like yeah I could quite easily get my shit to level 70 +15 but considering there's no challenge in the game that warrants it, why bother?

I have a magatama and 5/5 tatenashi and 5/7 inari (i really appreciate the increased duration). Maybe it would be better to ignore the 10% ele weapon buff for another 2 piece set bonus but again... I've already done the toughest fights in the game pretty easily.

Shit, I might actually start playing nioh 2 from scratch.
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Bros I don't want to kill the tall sexy oni girl...
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Wife and I beat Nioh 3 today. I'd say it's an overall 9/10 with most of the point lost because of dogshit enemy variety.
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am i retarded or does switchglaive just deal zero damage
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>>557484464
nahh, they'll re-tool it into the russia-japan war, get a bolt action rifle as a spear
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>>557553847
Same but i might also be dumb
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were bosses ever weak to paralyzing or poison? does it even work?
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anyone been farming the 3 soldier guys in last crucible from the passageway shrine? i've heard people getting 170 weapon drops there, but i've gotten zero over A LOT of runs, 424 base luck, tried both in normal misssion and battle scroll with level sync on
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>>557554172
damage up when enemy is poisoned is a very powerful effect, and same for paralyzed but moreso. it doesn't deal a lot of damage on its own.

lots of normal enemies are paralyzable
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>>557553847
>>557553975
naw, it is low damage
try repercussion when you have a small window. even just stage one. it does more than most of your combo attacks in the same time frame
id leave that fleeting edge skill on medium if you do go with it though
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>>557554248
im not doing this run, but ive been doing scaled battle scrolls and i cant get high level stuff to drop... but i seem to recall something about wraiths (or whatever the red aura guys are) being a good source. i did get a handful just sprinting through ng+ and im thinking it was these guys
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I want to try some coop, but why is it only looking for matches for like two seconds then you have to refresh it again?
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>>557554335
Would have been cool if you could stop the bosses too
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>>557554959
cross posting from /v/, but this:

also tried the scion of the gods crucible with level sync, where the two jailer onis and a ton of those red ghost guys are, from there i've gotten 170 boots, 165 waist guards, 163 chest armors and several 170 weapons, but none with crucible modifier, highest crucible modifier drop i've seen there is 161

the item levels for each equipment slot is consistent in that area as well, so it seems you can't just farm one place to get a full set. if there are any other gear farming autists here i'd like to hear your experiences.


i spent a lot of yesterday with those red guys on battle scroll mission with level sync, but couldn't get a lvl 170 weapon with cruc modifier to drop
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>>557554172
I find that hinoenma paralyzes a lot of the bosses, but it's not very useful
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So, righteousness or compassion?
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>>557543131
you have to be inside his asshole to reach him and his attacks move him across the entire screen
the red spin is also weird as fuck on the burst counter timing
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>>557555271
ah, interesting. thanks.
ill do some experimenting
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>>557555304
That sounds fun though, I'll try this! ty for the tips
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>revolver clearly present
>can’t use it
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Who was she talking about? Or was she talking about me when I saved her the last time I was here, and she was only half-conscious and doesn't realise it was me?
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>>557555551
if you find yourself in that place, see if you cap out on item level on the same items, would be interesting to confirm it
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>>557555436
both
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>>557555758
Himiko
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>>557555674
Probably a DLC only weapon, which also probably means the Boshin War is one of the DLCs. Actually it didn't occur to me until now that TN could probably fit multiple eras into one DLC instead of just focusing on one for each.
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>1kat attack where you stab into the earth and fling rocks does like 3k damage
>odachi attack where you do the same only does 1k damage
that doesnt seem right
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>>557556513
The DLCs are the Keian Uprising and the Shimabara Rebellion
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Have we come to a determination on if samurai or ninja is better? Comparing 1kat on both specifically, I feel like I do better with samurai.
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>>557556626
Another 1kat victory.
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the further i get in the game the more sloth revenants i see

disgusting
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>>557556626
the 1kat one is a crucible skill so yeah
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>>557556781
nin 1kat feels like it was made specifically to bully bosses out of their ki before you swap to sam 1kat and then bully them out of their hp
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>>557556654
>Keian Uprising
From what I looked up, that occurred shortly after Iemitsu died
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>>557556462
But Himiko is with you
Actually, what happens to the Himko who appeared at the end of Return to Edo? She lives into the bad future then loops around to travel with you back to the past?
Fucking time travel, man
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>>557557248
Time travel, but it's bizarre they'd choose two periods so close to the game's present
I've got a sinking feeling they'll just be linear maps like Antiquity
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>>557557317
Himikos shows up, you time travel away, she saves Fuku, you later return from time teaveling.
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DLC where you murder your gay lover in the bath
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>>557558816
DLC where you crucify christians
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>>557558816
the historical takechiyo was gay and had a massive harem forced on him by fuku
team ninja made my chiyo gay (lesbian) so I guess it fits
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>>557556864
I find them much less useful now
Honestly they just throw off my dodge timing too
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>person says they're having a hard time against x
>posts video
>they panic dodge then get hit
>they don't block
>they only dodge backwards and get hit by follow up attacks
>they spam light attacks or a single martial art
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I did not make it to NG+ just to get bodied by Masakage
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Now we need Team Ninja to make a few more flops again so we can get Nioh 4.
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>>557558972
Thank god for Fuku.
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>>557560212
Nioh 4: Yokai In Space
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>>557559686
I don't block
I spam only a single martial art
I win
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>>557560752
Based 2katGOD.
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In Japanese mythology, the raiju (lit. "framerate beast") is a legendary creature and yokai...
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>>557555516
his burst counter i can handle
i just ended up actively dodging into everything to charge my ninjutsu and shurikening him to death when he was yokai'd
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is the deflect ki damage on the yoshitsune set any good?
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>>557563054
i'm about to find out, i'm going 7p benzaiten and 5p yoshitsune set, i like deflecting though so i'll take whatever i can get
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>sloth
>rage
>water heavy hit talisman
>axe
>heavy stance
>triangle

Yes, I beat the game
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>>557563846
based but what is triangle
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>>557564053
heavy attack
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>>557564053
have people never seen a ps controller before
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>>557563846
>todo
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>Human boss
>Just endless blocks and infinite stamina

I'm so tired.
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>>557563846
>Deinvigorate Talisman
>Lifeleech Talisman
>Weakness Talisman
>Sword of Meditation
Steamrolled most bosses in the game.
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I don't wanna keep trying Hiruko, i hate this boss. I wanna just overlevel and stomp him. But i'm already pretty high level, taking 400k amrita to get a levelup. And i heard the boss after him is even worse. Fuck, i think i'm getting filtered.
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>>557566362
my trick was to fight him 50 times
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>>557559686
>you died to the boss, have you tried not getting hit?
holy shit anon this is profound, thank you for your contribution
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>>557565936
Your on block arts?
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got this from the nobunaga's blade battle scroll...
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I've been here in person but it didn't look much like this
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>>557566362
>get him to <20% hp
>decide to use living artifact even though this means my next 3 runs will not succeed
>get him to 1 hit left
>die to random AOE bullshit spam once living artifact runs out
>uninstall game
beat nioh 2 in under 50 deaths btw
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>check nioh 3 mods hoping to see something useful like bloodedge demon location, etc
>its all jeets posting shitty graphic filters
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Himiko but dressed exactly like Hiruko
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>>557567446
You didn't have enough Insight
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>>557567562
bad
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>>557567978
Yeah, it's a shame because Team Ninja usually nails it, but you are right that they did a bad job here.
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>>557568079
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>>557567423
the sensor is great but man it feels weak af damage wise
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>>557567764
too early bro
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>>557568290
the damage from it is from the infinite weapon buff, not the raw damage
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Since people do talk about Nioh's 1 and 2 should the general be open to discussion about SoP, Wo Long and RotR?
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>>557568538
duh
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Now to replay the entire game as Toyo's Bizarre Adventure with her hammer
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>>557568538
clearly
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>>557568538
Wo Long had cool animations
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>>557567562
Skill issue?
Skill issue.
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>>557568905
Wo long did some things great. Being able to add spells into your combo felt great and opened up a lot of weapons for some crazy combos. Being able to counter an enemy with the opposite element was a fun idea, for example if lu bu lit his spear on fire you'd take fire chip damage but hitting him with a water or ice spell would extinguish the flame on his spear and take away his fire damage. I really want the saber and fists moveset in nioh 3, fist feels way better than claws or caestus. Whip would also be great to have and would be a decent ninja weapon.
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>>557566490
I had to fight the tutorial boss 50 times
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>>557569252
tutorial boss is the second hardest in the game
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>>557538708
>There is an infamous 2v1 in the main story as well.
Was that the one in the webm or the one in the snow with the japanese shogun guy and the french general?
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>>557568639
>>557568881
Might want to get some useful info like tech, drop tables and whatnot for them in the OP. 3 doesn't have much now but the others do have info worth sharing.
>>557568905
Wo Long is generally slept on imo but I do have issues with how gear works in it, not being able to customize your martial arts until NG++ was a bad idea.
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>>557540968
I'd love to hear how, I really grew to hate the combat by the end of it. With normal enemies they just had too much health and the rock paper scissors stance system felt boring and gave no reason to be creative, and bosses just felt like you HAD to memorize their attack strings and deflect it all with little room for taking the initiative yourself. It was just more parryslop where the game does the thinking for you and your job is just to react and push the right button. The open world stuff was boring as well so most of the content was a waste of time.
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>>557542090
I feel like I'm being robbed of a second phase on every major boss. Where's the content?
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is it me or is the tanuki counter fucking garbage
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What set up are you guys running on your odachi? Is Crimson General the best even late game?
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>>557569773
Huh, I forgot he blocked it as well
I was comparatively sweatier fighting him than Yoshinobu so maybe I never internalised it
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>>557569252
Understandable with only mid stance and no deflect.
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>use the new transmog mod to see all the armor sets
>all the gear looks horrible
>regret buying this game for 70 dollars
waitchads won
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>>557569773
i gotta say there's still no cooler animation sequence than killing otakemaru in 2 that shit is hype
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>>557570151
take the only undergarments version 2 + hands + feet armor pill
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>>557566362
Next boss is bad in a completely different way, maybe you'll find it easier
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i beat soji first try on the best of five battle scroll. as samurai. this makes me a real nioh gamer
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>>557566362
he's one of the harder ones
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>>557559686
elden slop has created a generation of retards
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>>557571869
Did you then beat his tuberculosis bussy
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it's not panic dodge it's FLEX dodge
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>>557571884
it's the accessibility features in ER that are the problem

like summons
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>>557572510
Honestly, spamming dodge as ninja rarely let me down and triggered Evade half the time
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>>557568905
It's really sad how cool martial arts were in wo long and then we get NINJUTSU in Nioh 3 and the only physical art that does an actual attack is just a boring burst of air around you. Why are they afraid to give us cool physical attacks that can be used on any weapon?

It would actually go such a long way if every ninja weapon could have access to something like a divekick
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>>557572935
Throw a stone spike or pillar of fire in there and you got a stew going.
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>>557569371
Latter. The webm is from those post game gauntlets.

>>557569723
Ronin is somewhat misunderstood because people look at deflect and go "dude sekiro!!!" and their brain is incapable of digging beyond that.
I made a post about this on /v/ >>733120490
I'll also note that while the game is parry based, I think it probably has the best designed movesets for this type of game. It's hard to fully articulate without having the game fresh in my mind but boss movesets feel fair and challenging. Bosses can have different movesets but have attacks that play on a familiar "rhythm" which can make them feel intuitive to parry even if the attack pattern is different. There's also small tricks that can try to trick you and it feels way more intense and interactive than anything from sekiro and likewise, compared to wo long the movesets feel more complex to fight

Other things to appreciate
>A VERY large roster of bosses with unique movesets
>Fantastic weapon variety
>Styles feel (or felt, since Nioh 3 is out) as a real evolution of the stance sytem (though 90% of the love went into 1kat as always)
>A good realization of the bakumatsu world, which hasn't been done before on this scale
>Fashion was really well done
>Grapple is fun albeit underutilized
>The addition of subweapons with revolvers/shuriken felt good to weave between attacks and feel smoother than ninjutsu in nioh 3 ninja
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subtle blade or shifting serenity for odachi? also is mystic dyad back in 3 or is it being saved for dlc?
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>>557569773
dark realm is phase 2, nimrod
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>>557573771
Oh yeah another thing is that the game has a dojo which lets you fight almost every boss in the game and even has a scoreboard system. I really liked that and I learned a lot about the games depth by just grinding against dojo bosses and figuring stuff out.
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I barely feel like I know what I'm doing and I beat takeda 1 on second try and the optional fight on the giant's beach on the 1st try, with no weapon skills because the game hate samurai and gives no points for them. when will this game get it's shit together and start fighting the fuck back, this is ridiculous.
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>>557574231
zone 1 is baby mode in 3. for the people who never finish a game
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>>557573824
probably serenity if you arent building around subtle
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>>557573771
Give me revolver as a ninjutsu TN, the tech is right there. Also Chinese swords as a samurai style and Whips as a ninja style.
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>>557572935
woah wtf maybe I should play wo long
I tried the demo and hated it long ago but that webm looks kino
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if they're bringing DOA back why did they nerf nioh so hard
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>plays a shamisen
ALL RONIN, SAMURAI AND FAT-BOTTOMED ENJOYERS! HEAR MY WORDS, AND HEAR ME WELL! I HAVE COME CARRYING A SALVATION FOR ALL WHO WEEP IN THE CORNER OF TAKEDA'S FOUR HEAVENLY KINGS AND BENEATH A WHITE FLAG!

I just put 6 PC Lilac to the training grounds. There is no limitation to what it doesn't extend, there is no diminishing returns for how long it extends, and if you want you can use an offhand samurai weapon to extend it instead of the switchglaive if you don't have Yasakani. Not only does it include debuffs like Weakness, Fujiwara/Spider abilities, Lifeseal, and Sloth. But also elemental debuffs like Poison, Water, and Confusion. I want to repeat, THIS EXTENDS FUCKING CONFUSION WITHOUT LIMIT. The only gripe is Lilac is among the heaviest armors in the entire game, heavier than Kamakura and Tatenashi at 11.2 for the chestpiece. Pray that the redditors and youtubers are too fucking retarded to look at this set so TN ignores it because I'd be shocked if it lives as is.
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>>557575416
same reason. they decided they want money. so now they are doing things that will make money. such as making an open world esque game with a gentle difficulty curve. and such as boobs.
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>>557575416
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>>557575606
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Sorry but the scampuss booty OP will never be topped
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>>557574231
i just first tried that merged fire/ice boss that was a huge pain in the ass in 2, this is dumb
also spending hours fighting goons that die in three button presses.
like holy shit meeting those ninja Yoki for the first time was terrifying in the previous game, now you just outtrade them.
Where are the cyclops, the tengus, those elemental giants?
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>>557576015
they nerfed everyone's damage until like halfway through the game
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where do I get confusion I haven't found any weapons with it yet
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>>557575654
>you actually can get her armor
>the top just gives you the necklace
damn this dev team dropped the ball hard with armor design for the player character
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>>557576078
confusion is when you inflict 2 elements at the same time retardbro
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>>557576078
Confusion is done when you apply two+ elements to the target (the main magical ones, water/fire/wind/electric, poison/paralysis don't work for this).
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>>557574231
every time I read about someone thinking samurai is weak I immediately know they're shit tier at the game
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>>557576229
This explains so much
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>>557576078
it appears you already have it :)
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>>557567764
a nude mod only just barely came out, niggy
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just give me a reverse outfit ninja costume

yeah...
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i dont understand the fucking control schemes. can i not make switch weapon not require holding r1? why are japs so fucking autistic
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>>557577179
play on mkb then
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Does anyone know the motion values of attacks, at least for Nioh 2? I would do my own autism testing but I don't know the defense of the enemies in training mode
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Starting to see the things people were saying about abusing damage reduction leading to immediate stamina death from hits.
I'm sorry for doubting you guys
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desu I feel like the demo was kind of false advertising, making the game seem like it would have more big open worldy areas when it really just turns into a bunch of more linear paths that are kinda like nioh levels interwoven into a big map. I'm glad it's like this, but I can imagine someone being upset and complaining about the game lol
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Anyone top of their mind think of universal sets for samurais that I can use to splash on a Ninja-form focused build? Don't think I have any in my inventory and wanted to make sure I wasn't missing an obvious set.
>example of the Inverse
You can use Shinran's True Pure Land set to give your Samurai-Form +33 effect duration (I plan to do it for Benzaitan as part of a versatility build). Ninja-Minamoto's 2 PC bonus is also for both forms, giving you some reduced ki costs for dodges even if you stick exclusively for Ninja form.
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>>557575218
To be fair it got a lot of tweaking with the dlcs to make it feel a lot better. Fist and whip are also really good weapons, especially fist that can cancel almost every combo into a deflect immediately.
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gaki bros we won
https://x.com/skysakura3/status/2022995890953490640
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>>557562027
lol
>>557559686
Image made me laugh, NiohDADS rise up.
>>557569773
No, second phases are AIDS because you have no way of knowing if you should use your tools or save them. It's only OK when the first phase is very obvious, as it was in the 200CE boss.
>>557572603
Based. If you used summons you didn't beat the game, unironically.
>>557575654
It's nice that she actually has some personality. The mascot of Nioh 3.
>>557578329
The open field (connected branching linear levels) worked out really well. The northern part of the first map starts doing it already. It's what Itsuno tried to do for DD2.
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Ah yes, the three kinds of buddhist hell: hot, cold, and bug.
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>>557577012
there's a mod that allows you to use any armor as any stance
it's just a big reminder than ninja armor > samurai armor
also weird af that demon horde was set as ninja armor like wtf that was the original pre order bonus HEAVY armor in nioh 2 why the fuck is it ninja only armor? retarded devs
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Nioh is Buddhist propaganda, just like Shaman King, which arguably takes place in the same universe.
Most importantly, Nioh makes jews seethe.
We won.
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haha that performance patch is coming any day now right? haha...
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Some other training grounds finding
>Incognito-hazard
If fearing that your samurai loadout can't dish out element application, you can try to start in Ninja and then swap out. Elec Calamity + Hellfire Talisman can be applied fast before swapping to Lilac to maintain it, Switchglaives can effectively do wind especially if paired with Guhin so that's three elements down.
>Elemental Weapons, the affix
The damage bonuses from Inari about Elemental Weapon damage does indeed go to everything, so that set's a 28% damage boost to magic/ninjitsu/attacks so long as you have elemental weapon active (and Tengen Kujuku counts for this if you want to free up talisman slots).
>Elemental Weapons, the effect
They are dogwater from testing unless you're Ninja and spend 10 points on skills, Patience + Rigor of the Gods make the elemental weapons such as from Tengen Kujuku a genuine source of elemental application. Wrathful Dragon also helps this but maintaining is a bit too much of a headache for me personally, maybe if you go Flying Kato it's more reliable as bombs can act as both upkeep as well as fire application?
>Tengen Kujuku
Just a tip that if you are used to Guhin/Enko letting you attack burst attacks away, he's too slow to do it testing off a Jailer Oni, you will have to burst shift here.
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>brave demon hunter has over 15% dmg on martial arts over 15% ki reduction and 15% ki recovery speed plus an A scaling on strength
Is this just the best set in the game?
Aside from maybe Kintaro, but that is only better if you're axe.

Is there any other set or grace I should be aiming for instead of this...?
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>>557582609
you're the best set in the game
anon I love you
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So we all agree Nuribotoke is the worst fight in 3 yeah?
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>>557583029
I killed him first try when I encountered him in the mission but then in the gauntlet at the end he kept doing this swirly attack that killed me multiple times. He never did that the first time I fought him because I ki-blended him too hard.
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>can't use Photo Mode when in a hot spring
Fuck this game
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So why does the character of Nioh 3 crucify Christians and expel all foreigners after the end of the game
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>>557584891
he based
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>>557584891
it would be really funny if thats what the dlc ended up being about
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>>557584938
ok epstein
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Am I crazy or can you block burst attacks now?
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>>557582609
I'm like the righteous set. The first three bonuses are kind of crap, but dual protection makes up for it by giving you your ninja guardian spirits' passives. More importantly, as a 5pc bonus, you can get just enough pieces to max out a grace while having dual protection.
Only problem is that the ninja guardian spirit in general aren't that great for samurai, but maybe DLC guardian spirits will be better.
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I don't understand why the lighting is so shit in the Eternal Rift where you change your appearance.
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>>557587316
it's a japslop shovelware asset flip, what did you expect sis
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>>557582609
For a generalist that isn't aiming to do ninjutsu/onmyo it's looks good but there's some competition.
>Full-commits (7 pc)
Inari is 28% to everything you do so long you have a weapon talisman on (or use Tengen Kujuku).
Benzaiten's Versatility's best friend, don't know how long it makes the stacks last but likely a while and if paired with True Pure Land giving a free 33% on Ninjitsu, even longer.
>Cognito-hazard (6 pc bonus)
Lilac gives you infinite duration on debuffs, whether its elemental/poison/confusion/sloth, the only weakness is that Lilac is one of the heaviest heavy armor sets in the game, only lighter than Sincere Buddha I think.
>Splashes
Shuri-no-Sake has 10% DMG buff on amrita absorption (you can get amrita on strong attack on helm) as well as attack bonus Intellect (not A scaling but it's the ki-regen/buff duration stat), all for 4 pieces of light heavy armor.
Kusarigama Master has 12% damage from behind (think Kingo) + 15% charge rate which is really good together, main issue is that it's one of the heaviest Ninja armors out there and you will have to settle for B agility with modest Stamina investment + Weight Bearer.
A lighter alternative to Shuri-no-sake if you like dodging in Samurai-form is the 1st captain set, 10% DMG on amrita absorption + 8% thrust DMG + 11% Sheathed skill damage all for 4 pieces of light armor.
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The old mission-select format worked. It fit the “historical snapshots across decades” approach, gave the story a sense of movement, and let the UI, music, and character roster reflect the passage of time. Nioh 3 ditches that for an open field structure that isn't well designed. The result is fewer missions stretched across flatter, more generic spaces. Instead of feeling expansive, it feels unfocused, like you’re just wandering around killing things.

The level design also lacks identity. Earlier games used a wide variety of settings across Japan in interesting ways. Here, major locations barely resemble themselves. Areas like Kiyomizu-dera are interesting when they lean into a twisted demon reinterpretation, but others, like Nijo Castle, don’t even feel like the places they’re supposed to represent. The Heian-era section doesn’t evoke Kyoto in the year ~1000; it’s just a generic frozen demon dungeon. The historical atmosphere is completely gone.

The story is even worse. Nioh 2 already did the “ancient sibling feud + demon possessing people throughout history + time travel 1000 years into the past” plot. Nioh 3 does it again. Different names with the exact same structure. The emotional climax is a direct repeat: corrupted partner, brother and sister at odds, last-minute spiritual assist, power-of-friendship finale. It feels less like a continuation and more like a rewrite.

On top of that, the time-travel framing makes the canon feel meaningless. You jump around eras and alter events, but it’s unclear what actually matters or sticks. Political and historical context becomes muddy, and the ending’s triumphant tone clashes with the darker implications of what your character will go on to do.

Nioh 3 tries to modernize the format, but loses the identity that made the series distinct. It replaces a weird but effective structure with a more conventional one, delivers weaker historical atmosphere, and retells the same story with less impact.
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>>557588890
I ain't reading all that
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>>557588890
mostly agree, but game is still fun. I'm hoping the DLC design will be better
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>>557588890
I agree but I still liked it enough to finish it and will play the dlc. It just won't be remembered as fondly as 1 or 2.
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Just got the platinum trophy on Playstation. 3 3% of players already have it which strikes me as high since most people don't even beat most games they start.
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>>557589529
*3.3
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>>557589418
the first DLC will be set in WW2 and the second on zack's island 100 years later
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>>557589418
It's way more memorable. What are you on about
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>>557590925
the most hype moment in the game is when william's theme starts playing during the final boss FACT
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>>557572935
If you want martial arts then play samurai and have like 20 of them per weapon.
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>>557584891
You remember Nioh 1?
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>>557588890
I agree fully. The game is so pretty good, but the story and vibes suck.
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>Ninja revenant does their special dodge and becomes invulnerable for half an hour
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>get to NG+/Shogun's Journey
>all the added roaming bosses (Gozuki, Enenra, etc.)
>all the yokai that have replaced human enemies in specific enemy placements
>that item that allows you to respawn enemies in base camps and crucible spike arenas and give them harder formations and even a Dark Realm (this is essentially a way of turning specific areas into Twilight Missions)
And is it just me, or are some of the default yokai placements spruced up as well? For example, in the Jakotsu Baba crucible, I'm pretty sure there weren't three skeleton cannon guys waiting to ambush me in one of the houses on NG.

Also, new thread when?
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>>557591527
I just don't bother with fighting ninja revenants. If I accidentally trigger a Biwa Boku and he summons a ninja revenant, I just run away until the revenant despawns and I go back and kill the Biwa Boku.
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>>557591530
I'm replaying the game on the next difficulty now and I don't even remember these zones.
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How the fuck do I get this item?
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>>557591691
tome vibes
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>>557591691
Nvm, I was finally able to get it by jumping off the tree. It was so janky I was sure it wasn't gonna work.
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Why do I switch to a random glowing yellow sword when backstabbing people? In Nioh 2 it was the sohayamaru in this game you just feel like it?
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>>557591820
It's her transformation lol
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>>557591665
Switchglaive heavy quick attack combo into cyclone luckily kills all Revenants in one combo, but it is tedious when a ninja revenant iframes through the whole combo so I have to hit them again as they recover.
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>>557591941
did u skip all the cutscenes
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Jesus I really underrated reverse impact. Might be one of 1kats best skills.

As far as i've tested, it's the single highest damage skill available, beating out severing spin while having like 1/3rd of the animation commitment, while at the same time dealing a very chunk amount of ki damage, about as much as ki burst with no follow up. The obvious downside is that the range isn't great + it's super linear but this is probably the best burst punish you can use vs yokai attacks and it's a great "finisher" if you can time it to hit a realm shifting yokai right as they shift.

I'm gonna start experimenting doing severing spin > reverse impact at the end of combos. Potential massive butt rape damage.
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>>557592440
Animation commitment doesn't really matter in a game that allows you to equip a low cost skill that enables earlier animation cancelling by using Style Shift.
So stuff like that enhanced Morning Moon that normally would leave you in a very long animation lock can simply be cancelled out of as soon as the the Morning Moon hits.
You can't just cancel at any time like you could using burst counter in Nioh 2 to cancel out of animations, but in exchange the Style Shift also has less recovery, plus you can slightly reposition using the Style Shift (just enough to dodge incoming arrows or bullets, though if you have the Style Shift Yata Mirror thing that allows you to return bullets/arrows/cannons, you can simply stay still and use that).
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>>557593041
Uh yeah it matters nimrod. Severing spin doesn't deal it's damage until after the animation commit.



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