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>RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army Released on Steam and Switch 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Xyh3SciAM

>Raidou Remastered World Spotlight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIr3mDfEAlo

>VV has a demo now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Br8Pt11f0

>SMT VV patch 1.0.3 is out. includes 6 new navigators, one new quest and demon

>Atlus 2025 Aspirations Tease Upcoming Announcement from Shin Megami Tensei Team, New Experience from Persona Team:
https://personacentral.com/atlus-2025-aspirations-tease/

>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/

>Vengeance OST scans
https://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ

>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game

>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]
https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home

>Archive of 3DS Texture Packs
https://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/

>Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 soundtracks are now available on digital streaming services

>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)
https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post

>SMT TTRPG Campaign PDF:
https://files.catbox.moe/rdqfh3.pdf

>20XX rereleased on April 24th for the Nintendo Switch. Steam on May 8th
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3652460/GMODE_20XX/

>Gmode rereleased Smt Tokyo Requiem.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3713410/GMODE/

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>>557403141
the only navigator i liked was jp akechi because his lines are funny and show off his personality.
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Vesk status?
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Happy Valentine's Day, I LOVE shocking demons!
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I want PM Koshimizu to fill my holes
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>>557433719
Heat NTR
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Valentines.
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I want to fill Yuzuru's holes
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>>557435342
Valentine's day special....
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>>557435342
So sad they won't get any art today like all the other Nahobino pairs. So here is an old pic.
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>>557436226
some Tsukuyomi art here, some Yuzuru art there, Koshiyuzers make do ...
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Reposting with color.
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>>557435342
We know, Miyazu
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I want to fill PM Koshimizu full of holes
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I want to fill my glass with water
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>>557438695
Miyazu offering Khonsu her virginity if he fills PM Koshimizu full of holes.
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I want to fill my glass with Tao's piss
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>>557439926
why Tao tho of all the hot women and demon
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>>557442553
holy water
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>>557442651
does it heal mana
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What's the Onix of megaten aka intimidating looking but in reality it's pure dogshit?
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Cybele my beloved, reunited again
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>>557442723
all the effects of recovery items(beads, chakra drops etc) and it tastes good
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None of you guys are funny
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>>557446169
Tell a funny joke then
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Nuwa deserves a man who will treat her right. Take for example me unlike that asshole Yakumo
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>>557446169
I am
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>>557448446
Why do girl demons always go for the assholes instead of supreme gentlemen such as ourselves?
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>>557451248
>Why do girl demons always go for the assholes
Because anal is inherently evil.
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>>557451248
because you likely aren't a gentleman.
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>>557451248
she's been attatched to his hip since he was a kid. she groomed herself a husband
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i don't think this series will surpass from the peak of 4/4a for a very long time unless they either go back to 2D sprites for a game or wait 10+ years for switch hardware to catch up with what they did with the 3ds in unreal
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>>557437780
cute
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>>557461431
>peak of 4/4a
These are games you can only like parts of. As complete packages they are some of the last games I would consider the "peak".
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>the peak of 4/4a
sorry but even as a v hater it's still much better than iv. you must be one of those smtfag who want the game to be as hideous and outdated as possible
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SMT peaked with Nocturne HD Remaster
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>>557462960
V is impressive despite how underwritten the whole story is, the whole rocket science mechanic when you're playing superbosses and the 3D model for every demons already made it better than both IV. meanwhile IV just looks cheap as fuck with 2D designs. hell, IV doesn't even have actual animations, just cut-outs being moved around.
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just played SMT6
https://litter.catbox.moe/jlodor.mp4
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>>557463746
Where is the guro
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smt4 has the peak for the dungeons for chaos/law. the problem is neutral needed fucking something outside just reusing them.

a part of why the dungeons are so good is the aw/chaos alignments showcasing the bias. also their music is amazing with their aethetics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFuWf_copM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b08GGuTAwg
i wish v or vv had any dungeons as aethetic and fun
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>>557448446
You just don't get it....
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>no sugarmommy demon gf
FUCK MY CHUD LIFE
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>>557468396
this didn't get added to my post, but no other smt gayme has lucifer lamenting over the angels. god damn that shit is kino and adds to luci and walter's resolve. johnathan sees how pitiful the demons have become, and uses that to wipe them out.

even with them being extreme, they have some sort of humanity even if it's twisted to fuel their motivations where they haven't fully turned. that maybe they would go back to normal after a while, but they are ultimately pawns meant to be discarded. smt1 chaos hero has this, sj/sjr is weird about it since sjr recharacterizes jim and zelen for it's new endings which i don't enjoy since it's a remake, but also it's kinda good in a way to have a balance in the extreme where they have have flaws/characterlization to be more defined instead of filling one slot once they turned.
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I’ve heard the Jap VA work in Nocturne HD is pretty rough, how’s the engdub?
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>>557468838
>stop being a chud
>become a revolutionary that attacks the demon invested government
>get nuwa gf
>???
>profit
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>>557470226

real ones play the OG PS2 version with no voice acting desu
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>>557472514
I already have I’m buying HD predominantly so I can play the mods it has.
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>>557470226
English dub is worth it for the Fiend voices alone.
https://youtu.be/8S-fDtTYY-0?t=576
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Please Doi.... please just talk about V development like you said you were going to.... Doi where did you go..... Doi........
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wtf I only knew about Yoko
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>>557479467
AmaTAOasu
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>>557479467
vibe storywriting right here
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i should be around halfway into SMT IV (14 hours of playing), meanwhile i put SJR on hold and that thing is still around 1/3 (currently on Eridanus final part which is Ouroboros boss battle) while having a lot more playing time around 26 hours.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rllUvIF8Vt4&list=PLfZGbJNn7_gaaA3pphsLWt2V6vZtyjCsB watching this virtual trainer run, i wonder what's the point of throwing spyglass
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>>557468719
it should have been me
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>>557206612
>sounds cool. but i'm thinking fnv but with summonable demons and an smt plot sounds good too.
That too, but I was trying to describe what I'd imagine a JRPG x First or Third Person Shooter hybrid would realistically look like. But my ideal SMT shooter spinoff would have the RPG character customization of Fallout: New Vegas. the demon summoning of Shin Megami Tensei, the esoteric cospiracy theory/secret society lore of Deus Ex, and the large arsenal of weapons as Escape from Tarkov, Payday 2, Ready or Not, SCP: 5K and/or S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Gamma.
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>>556800012
Made it to the bottom of the second Kalpa where we get some lore on Hikawa and the four horsemen of the apocalypse join the battle royale for the menorahs. The exp I got from exploring there allowed me to fucking cruise through the next few story beats while also running into two of the horsemen. White rider (pestilence?) was an absolute pain in the dick that we barely managed to beat but War got his shit pushed all the way in. I also beat up some Onis in the subway, including their leader who I'm convinced I fucked up on somehow unless spotting the one frame stutter in the replica's animation loops is the actual intended way of seeing through his replicas which would be fucking evil.
Meanwhile our other surviving schoolmate from before the world ended understandably seems to have lost his marbles and hopped into the amala network on his way to parts unknown.
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>>557489545
Oh and a P.S. Lore question since I'm not entirely clear on it
Is the multiverse-esque set-up that the Lady in Black mentioned meant to be infinite branches off of a single point in time or just an infinite number of alternate realities? I had assumed that Hikawa was all in on LAWcoin but it seems a lot like he's a third party that fucked up what should have been the start of SMT1 for his own ends.
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what is it with Gaea and SMT
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Where do I buy darkness rounds in smtiv? Bullets which inflict sickness. I can't find anything on google.
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>>557490721
https://w.atwiki.jp/megaten4/pages/191.html can you find it here
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Hehehehehe, demon sex
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>>557492324
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For me, it's sex with Nekomata
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>>557489545
>I also beat up some Onis in the subway, including their leader who I'm convinced I fucked up on somehow unless spotting the one frame stutter in the replica's animation loops is the actual intended way of seeing through his replicas
the intention is you fight him on a full moon. the real one casts a shadow. that also reuse this idea for a fight in metaphor.
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>>557475545
save me doiman... save me...
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>we literally harvest people for their brains so we can turn them into red pills
>*10 seconds later*
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Can you teleport back to post apocalyptic Tokyo in smtiv?
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>>557504381
IIRC you can't on Law route because Lucifer's Palace is in the way of the reactor, but the other two routes you can
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oh my god this ginza shit costing me a lot of macca
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>>557502913
MACCA BEAM
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Subarashii
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>>557511282
chin chin mono
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you know what i reconsidered this entire website normalnigger 3dpd shit vomit inducing crap and /a/ was the last hope and you're my punching sack for now bare with /smtg/ and mod look at this amazing thread you made there >>>/v/733077878
even /a/ is dead since all of the cool posters are already in grave
don't pay attention to my yapping /smtg/ but this is not schizo shit just saying the truth but you can call it a schizo since it's your new buzzword even though 99.8 percent all of you are 3dpd shitters including the lolifag ones
and why i talk about it? since some of you noticed my alice posting so i wanted to clear some misconceptions :)
yep keep thinking you're all perfect and normal thats how normalfags think
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>>557519186
Shut the fuck up and kill yourself
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>>557519186
Learn punctuation you fucking retard.
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>>557519186
Did you like the Valentine's edits I made?
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>>557522326
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>>557519186
I'm used to people stepping all over me so I don't mind Alice.
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>>557522421
>Ok let's restart the world. What do I need to do?
>You'll find out later.
>Why can't I find out now?
>Later.
>What exactly happens after I destroy the world?
>Don't worry about it.
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Atlus make an smt fighting game that isn't just persona 4 please
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>>557528085
Lol no
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>>557528085
Best you can get is Power Instinct, sorry.
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>>557528085
who would be fighters?
just all the protags and few antagonists and demons?
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>>557528428
I think the demons would work better as assists, like, you select demifiend and can choose between pixie of black frost to help you, and every character would have their own demons to choose from, something like that
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>>557528701
what about lucifer and certain notable boss demons?
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>>557528795
Paid DLC everyone can use.
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>>557528428
yeah and some of the more important supporting characters like rei and nemissa
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back to rosterfagging
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>>557528428
Protags
Alignment reps
Story important demons
And uhh... the jack bros I guess
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>>557530162
Do you prefer fagfagging?
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>>557530764
persona 1 and 2 characters
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smt fighting game reps
>smt 1
futsuo and waruo
>smt 2
aleph and hiroko
>smt 3
demifiend and chiaki
>smt 4
flynn and walter
>smt 4A
nanashi and dagda
>smt 5
young man and dazai
>sj
protag and mastema
>smt if...
tamaki and hazama
>devil summoner
rei
>soul hackers
nemissa
>raidou
raidou kuzunoha XIV
>persona 1
naoya
>persona 2
tatsuya and maya
>persona 3
door kun
>persona 4
chad narukami and adachi
>persona 5
joker and akechi
>devil children
mirai and setsuna
>ronde
asuka
>giten
ayato kitsuragi
>devil survivor
protag
>last bible
protag
>bonus characters
nakajima, lucifer, steven, ttw, and the jack bros
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Me when I just name characters from a franchise I know as a form of discussion
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>>557533226
yeah, i forgot about dds.
>>557532968
>dds
serph and heat
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I wasted over 2 hours trying to spawn a Matador in smtiv. Chaos route, lucifer in the party. What am I doing wrong.
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>>557533656
What part of 1/256 chance to spawn do you not understand?
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>>557528428
As an anon who's only just started the series last year and has limited knowledge, characters I think would fit in well in a fighting game are
>Megami Tensei 1
MC, going by the book he'd definitely use Cerberus as part of his mechanics. maybe a puppeteer fighter.
>Megami Tensei 2
Nothing really stands out as a fighting game character except maybe the MC but I wouldn't know what to do with them
>SMT1
Chaos rep, visually striking and could work well as a gun zoner pre-transformation or a quick brawler post transformation, maybe make the transformation itself a gimmick
>SMT2
Archangels as a single slot, similar to injustice 2 ninja turtles.
>Majin Tensei 1/2
Maybe Ogiwara? Nobody else really stands out.
>If...
Hazama, starts off weak but has a demon emperor form that gives him armor and other perks.
>Jack Bros
Jack Frost, obviously
>Persona 1/2
Nyarlathotep, ideally similar to Arakune in Blazblue but with some Shang Tsung character copying gimmicks as well
>Soul Hackers
Nemissa, not sure what her move set would be though. Maybe a more balanced mvc3 phoenix, glass cannon with absurd unga bunga moves.
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>I'll never have an Amanozako onaholewife
what's the point
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>go through all those dungeons and fight all those Fiends to… be Lucifer’s milkfed gimp
Demifiend’s a retard.
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>>557539587
But muh cycle! Don't you want to be FREE???
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>>557537337
Why would you want this bratty child as a wife?
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>>557532968
>chiaki
the teacher is the smt 3 heroine
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>>557540515
No Pixie is.
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>>557540515
there's no heroine in Nocturne
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>>557539746
>don't you want to be FREE
i do which is why I did the freedom ending
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>>557540657
Honestly, I think freedom is baked into all of nocturne's endings, even Hikawa seeks to "free" humanity from greed. Relegating it to Yoko's route never sat right with me, hers is just one perspective of what a free World would be.
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>>557540657
>Oh boy I'm glad I picked the freedom ending and now we are back in the real world in the year 2003
>I sure hope things work out in the next couple decades
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>>557541590
DEMIFIEND WAKE UP THEY HIT THE PENTAGON THEY HIT THE FUCKING PENTAGON
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>>557541570
Hikawa is right but his method is too extreme. It's like saying:
>Rich elites ruin this world
>But all of humanity is poison due to association
>so we must wipe it all clean
There are humans that aren't corrupt that can keep the corrupt ones in line if you try to restructure things. He lost so much faith in humanity's ability to govern itself that he accelerated the conception I guess because while he was part of the Ring of Gaea he saw how evil the underbelly of the world was. Who is to say, either way, yes all the reasons what freedom but they are all biased towards their own views.
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>>557540515
i was more naming the "must have"/protag and the most popular characters.
i skipped soul hackers' protag though because he's not notable in any way. and i skipped majin tensei because again: it doesn't have anyone notable. some of the list is based on what fags here like too.
chiaki is one of the most popular smt characters so i said her. i've tried to include a realistic number of characters too assuming it was an actual game. i know a lot of the characters wouldn't make it in realistically however. like asuka, ayato, hazama, and the devil children characters probably wouldn't make it in assuming it was a real game.
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>>557537337
Some fairies are only made for sex. Do you really want a wife that nags that much?
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>>557544685
that's when you gag her with your cock. Can't nag if her mouth (and most of her torso) is full of penis like she's trying to swallow an entire hotdog
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>>557544685
>>557547075
>fairy
>is a tengu that's hiding her actual face which is horrifying
She will bite your dick off and laugh.
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>>557547373
Not all Tengu wear masks
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>>557547451
There is a negotiation with Koppa tengu and her where she shows him her actual face and it terrifies him.
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>>557547574
Nothing says she got serious chompers though
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ARES GIVE ME ANOTHER MAINLINE WITH A 400+ COMPENDIUM ROSTER AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
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>>557540217
I love bratty childs
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Atlus has always released something new every year no way they're not gonna release something this year. Although in my case if it's DDS remaster i'll still need to wait for the sales anyway.
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>>557433719
I genuinely hope that with the new DDS merch in mind that Atlus will seriously start considering making action figures of the demons themselves in addition to their protagonists/main characters. Pic related is the only demon-derived SMT action figure currently on the market right now.
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>>557566096
for ants fug i'll just link where i got it https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/113332600
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Will alignments actually have meaningful differences between them in VI or is just going to be more lazy boss swaps in the endgame
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I like how we all just collectively forgot V's MC has the most embarrassing moment a MC has ever had in a Megaten game.
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>>557569254
Flynn did that thing with his nose.
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What demons do you want to see in SMT in the future?
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i completed hunter prelims but for some reason i haven't got the quest for the finals? how so? i checked ginza bar and they don't give me any
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>>557571249
it gets unlocked later not right away
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>>557570019
i refuse to answer because the chance of it being monkeypawed is too high
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>no porn of my wife
this sucks
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estoma in IV is so shit, not only it costs a ton also it doesn't last long either
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>>557572447
false
https://exhentai.org/g/3409838/2db5773eb0/
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what happen if you beg off both?
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>>557489545
Made it to the very last spot I have vague memories of, where my older brother got filtered by three women and ragequit never to play again. I avenged him by kicking the shit out of these smug bitches who as it turns out haven't got any real answers for getting punched in the face several times by multiple Focus users roided up on +3 atk. From here on I have not even the slightest knowledge of what's coming up.
Afterwards we save the teacher only for her to instantly get possessed, and meet up with our schoolmate again who gives yet another pretty compelling Reason.
I'm really pleasantly pleased by the story so far. Unless they rugpull me they seem to have dropped the law/neutral/chaos options for various more nuanced factions, each having good arguments.
If I'm following this right so far we have
>A world of pure logic devoid of emotions
>A world of social darwinism where the weak and retarded are sent to the cornfield, basically Diet Chaos
>Full chaos, probably defunct since the Mantra got gaped and raped
>Everyone gets a world to do whatever they want with in solitude
>"freedom" which I assume means returning the world to normal
>Break the cycle of rebirth in it's entirety, cool but still not sure what Lucifer's end game is.
>The manikins are almost certainly going to get their own Reason as well.
It's reminding me of New Vegas in a very good way. I wouldn't really hate regardless it but I hope they don't boil it back down to law vs. neutral vs. chaos before you can make a choice.
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>>557574997
Because they knew people would "abuse" it with chakra walk.
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>>557572447
I'm pretty sure I saw a thick hyper breasts and nipple mod for VV floating around somewhere. Does that count?
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>>557577901
you can't proceed until you go with one of them
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well, that was easier than i thought
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>>557569756
Flynn and his fellow samurai are all retards so they have an excuse. Vkun is not only pathetic but an embarrassing unironic chuunibyou.
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I want to replay SMTVV as something other than a STR build. How is support nahobino? Outshined by dedicated support demons? If so I'll probably just go MAG so I can use all those unique skills he gets.
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>>557584620
probably something like Intercalation + Boon Boost EX + Luster Candy + Luminescent Mirage + Evergreen Dance + Taunt + Enduring Soul. You only use Beano to refill Magatsuhi and LC, end enemy's turn quickly while also giving more press turns for your team.
I found someone building a superboss team that can give like next 7 press turns because of Beano's Intercalation + Nuwa's innate skills + Yoshitsune's innate skill
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>>557583603
That’s me in every fight after Naraku in IV.
I swear the game wasn’t playtested beyond that point.
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>>557584298
>chuunibyou
It's ok because he actually did have super powers and a destiny all along. He wasn't imagining it.
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>>557585771
I think Naraku's poverty made the devs think hard what to do when you're all banged up and need a heal from the bar. so they thought okay full heal only cost 100 macca and it won't scale up at all. why didn't they give more macca in the beginning is beyond me.
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>>557585328
To add to that, you could probably do a vending machine build for it as well, like SJ did somehow, for some reason.
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>>557547075
>airy
That damn BITCH
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what is Isabeau doing while the boys are thrown to different dimension?
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>>557579507
Beat the shit out of Famine while trying to figure out where to go next, then went to the labyrinth and ran into Dante again.
If I bail and go save before the actual fight do I have to do that annoying switch minigame again?
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>>557591451
making some extra cash?
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so what happens if you get neutral alignment but without doing mandatory quests?
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>>557593685
It locks you in before those quests start.
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>>557486886
Forgot to mention that my ideal SMT JRPG x Shooter hybrid would also have the Solar System exploration of Quasimorph.

>>557570019
From Smite specific pantheons:
>Lancelot, Merlin, Mordred & Ogier the Dane
>Gilgamesh
>Cliodhna, Elatha, Eriu, Ogma & Rhiannon
>Ao Kuang, Chang'e, Erlang Shen, He Bo, Hou Yi, Jing Wei, Mulan, Xing Tian & Zhong Kui
>Anhur, Geb, Khepri, Neith, Nut, Serqet,
>Achilles, Charon & Chiron
>Bakasura, Kumbhakarna & Vamana
>Bake Kujira, Danzaburou, Kuzenbo, Fujin & Raijin
>Ah Muzen Cab, Awilix, Chaac, Hun Batz, Ix Chel & Xbalanque
>Sol (Norse), Ullr & Ymir
>Bellona/Enyo & Discordia/Eris
>Baba Yaga
>Baron Samedi & Maman Brigitte
>Olorun & Yemoja
>Princess Bari
>Aladdin

Some more wacky/"out there" ideas:
>Agnus Dei
>Dyeus (Proto-Indo-European)
>Dracula
>The Eye of Providence
>Jackalope, Bigfoot, Mokele-Mbembe, Bloop, Dover Demon, Flatwoods Monster, Jersey Devil, Gremlin, Chupacabra, Jeff the Killer, Slenderman
>Santa Claus & Krampus
>Andromedan, Cosmic Master, Elohim, Little Green Men, Nordic, Thetan, Men in Black, Grey, Reptilian, Vril-ya, Insectoid, Aetherius. Ashtar, Yakub, Black Triangle, Foo Fighter, Annunaki, Xenu,
>Celestial Teapot, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Invisible Pink Unicorn, JHVH-1,
>Lion of Judah, Popess Joan, Santa Muerte
>Tulpa
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>>557598512
Nice ideas
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>>557528428
Going to limit myself with 2 characters from the same game at max in the base roster
The protags
>Hero with Cerberus
>Aleph with Gabriel
>Demifiend with Pixie
>John Demonica with Doppelganger and Demoniho
>Flynn with Masakado
>Nanashi with Dagda
>Nahobino with Amanozako
>Raidou with Yoshitsune
>Serph with Sera
The reps
Law
>Mastema with Zelenin for Dark Law
>Zain and Seth for Neutral Law
>Amane with Remiel for Light Law
Neutral
>Yakuma with Nuwa for Dark Neutral
>Jack Frost with Pyro Jack for true Neutral
>Heroine with [insert demon that makes sense here] for Light Neutral
Chaos
>Lucifer with Beelzebub for Dark Chaos
>Naoya with Loki for Neutral Chaos
>Vince and Honey with Ose and Mothman for Light Chaos (had to go with a Dx2 character because of how hard it is to find a Light Chaos rep)
To round out
>Isabeau with Jeann D'Arc for Bonds
>Hikawa/Ahriman with Samael for Shijima
>Rasputin with Chernobog as the weird pick every good crossover fighting game has
>Argila, Gale and Cielo for more DDS characters
>Vanitas as the Boss character
DLC
>Jiminez with Bugaboo
>Chiaki/Baal Avatar with the Halels
>The Quaditsu
>Krishna with Shesha
>Akira with Amon
>Stephen
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>>557584620
Support Nahobino is by far the strongest, VIT is the best stat in the game and Bino gets tons of great support moves. Evergreen Dance and Luminescent Mirage are particularly egregious.

Personally, my favorite remains Poison status ailment Bino.
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Of all SMT, i feel Nocturne gives the best feeling that your Sukukaja and Sukunda actually work.
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>>557609079
>VIT is the best stat in the game
It makes you unkillable in a game where the damage already isn't very threatening... outside of Critical which is the easiest thing in the world to counter. STR and MAG are the best stats because they help you kill things faster.
>HURR BUT WHAT ABOUT GODBORN HARD MODE???
I don't give a shit and neither do most people.
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For all the godborn autists, do you know how many minutes/hours it takes to get 150 lvl Beano with 999 everything?
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man the last few mandatory quests for neutral ending are boring as fuck, i want to finish these ASAP
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Actually, doing an Agi build run for Vengeance, since it's the last stat I haven't tried yet. Does Lunar Hurricane proc its max version of Omagatoki Dance? Since it's a weird trigger, not sure if it would or wouldn't.
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watching this SMT IV speedrun video and dude had to repeat Tennozu quests for 5x because the RNG completely fucked him like first time enemy attack and his 2 demons immediately downed, and there's also a time where red knight completely cleared his lineup in a single turn, also you can't waste many turns because the fear will completely brown your demons' images. just a hilarious quest.
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>>557581786
If you link it yes
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>>557622140
99% of VV mods are gooner mods so it shouldn't be too hard to find
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>>557576065
>handholding
>wingslocking
I will cum to this later
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i can't activate tokyo cosmos quest, it's the only mission left to get neutral ending.
i've tried the guides where you just need to go to Ginza HA but it's not there, then some youtube comment said you actually need to go Florida Bar to activate the Masakado cutscene which I've done but after that it said i had to go to Ginza outside area with big boulders that activated a new cutscene but it's not there, I then checked Ginza HA again after Masakado and it's still not there.
help. fucking piece of shit game never gave you an update that a certain HA may give you new quests so you have to check it one by one.
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oh my god so this is what they meant
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welp
heard that you should avoid encounters as much as possibly can with this quest so should I finish the flying quest first?
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Futsuko animation in the works
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Varginha when?
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Opinions on Desperate Hit in SMTIV? People online are saying that it's the most powerful DEX skill but from my experience it sucks. Maybe I need more Dex (over 300).
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>>557624094
Yes.
>>557632558
link?
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>>557633837
i haven't played 4 in a while, if its the only way for dex to peirce resistances its probably good, otherwise the gun damage dex skills are better
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>>557633837
Its weak out of the box you have to buff yourself to make it actually good, use multiple (3) luster candies and a charge then cast it.
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I've made to sector H in SJR. I never want to play this again after i'm done.
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>>557642171
Weak.
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>>557642171
Kek what a bitch ass messiah
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Is anyone here autistic enough to have gotten the 100% completion SJ medal?
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>>557642416
>>557642521
Sorry that EO isn't for me
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>>557642171
I felt like that too but now I want to replay, I don't know what it is about that game but the loop of its gameplay became comforting in a way that I miss.
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>>557601384
Yuzuru + Koshimizu or Hayato could also work as Light Chaos, would never choose him over Yakumo but he is also a light Chaos character. Are a Dx2 character and Yuzuru really the only Light Chaos characters in the series?
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>>557643998
EO’s better than SJ gameplay-wise.
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https://youtu.be/fH3869_0GY8?si=dPMJY7kmGmYpSErw&t=432
This is smt related. You'll see why.
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>>557653465
I don't click tracking links
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>>557656905
4chan is already logging your IP.
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>>557657135
I trust the jeets that run this site
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The Whites are right.
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>>557658882
OY VEY
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>>557658882
More games need a "fuck everything" ending.
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Danu needs breeding
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>>557661118
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>>557601384
Light chaos would be the anguished one and bunny boy
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>>557579507
Made more progress after beating up Dante and I've narrowed down what reasons I'd ignore or support
>Teacher and Ariada
Might support it in a pinch but a very submissive woman claiming she wants freedom while allowing herself to be controlled by a random goddess doesn't sit right with me. She's just a puppet in denial no matter what she claims.
>Hikawa and Shijima
Full retard. What's the point of peace and perfection if you don't have even the slightest individuality or will to enjoy it? Hard pass.
>Hat boy and Musubi
My only gripe is that it sounds too good to be true. Every single person gets their own world that they can sculpt however they want? What's the catch? What's the cost?
>Denim girl and Yosuba
I was all for it when it was just grounded social darwinism but it seems to have morphed into full anarchic chaos as I feared.
So if I agree to dunk the smoothbrain reporter for being a shifty shitter, does that lock me out of the other endings or do I still have a chance to explore the amala labyrinth to figure out exactly what Lucifer's plan is?
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>>557669616
>What's the catch? What's the cost?
The catch is that no one will ever have a genuine human interaction again, everyone will have a pocket dimension where only they fully exist. Then again, I know some poeple that would consider that a plus.
>full anarchic chaos
Not really? I'm curious how you came to that conclusion, Yosuga is very strictly a hyerarchical world, with clear roles for anyone who has the strength to hack it.
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>>557673234
>Nobody will ever have a genuine human interaction again
Sure but you could probably just make new people in your given world, unless that's a no-no because it goes against the concept of Solitude.

As for why I'm coming to that conclusion about Yosuga, I feel like while that's not the initial outcome that's what the end of the road will be. Everyone killing everyone else trying to take a position in the ladder. the fighting will never stop, and once someone cuts out a slice for themselves they'll have to spend the rest of their existence fighting to keep it, never truly being able to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Eventually I think such a society would collapse under the weight of infighting both subtle and overt and eventually just become Vortex World 2.0.
I was extremely confused as to why the angels were backing such a group, but describing it as a strength based hierarchy helps it make sense, I guess in the (apparent, I'm not sure yet) absence of a clear goal or leader they'd stick with whoever would create the closest thing to an orderly society even if it's probably a house of cards in the long term. I also don't buy her claims that her reason would be unchanged by assimilating gozu-tennoh along with all of his ass blastedness over Nihilo punking them.

Or I just have shit for brains and am incapable of reading comprehension. This too is entirely possible.
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>>557675891
I'll put up a slight spoiler that doesn't actually spoil any plot: none of the three reason endings actually show you what the world you create looks like, so aside from the main themes of "solitude" "isolation" and "strength" they can behave in whatever way you want them to. I know that can be underwhelming to hear, but I honestly don't mind it that much. As for Yosuga, I always interpreted it so that when you recreate the world you also recreate humanity in your vision, so people would inherit the same will you have and always uphold order instead of devolving into anarchy; but these are just my two cents, my favorite ending is actualy Shijima lol
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>>557653465
>SMTV is being used by unrelated clickbait youtubers as an example of cringe yaoi dynamics
Megaten has fallen....
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>>557676838
Oops I accidentaly commited pleonasm, if you read the spoiler replace solitude with "silence".
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>>557598818
Thanks, tried to give separate ideas for demon designs that Atlus themselves haven't really come up with. Though I wouldn't mind if some of these preexisting demons got redesigns in their own right.

>>557601384
Wouldn't Tao and Yoko count as Light Law and Light Chaos reps?
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>>557653465
This shit is why I'm embarrassed to call myself a SMT fan.
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>>557675891
>Sure but you could probably just make new people in your given world, unless that's a no-no because it goes against the concept of Solitude.
It's probably more like the "people" you make in a world of Musubi aren't real people. It'd be like living in a world of mannequins (or manikins, even). And deep down, you'd know it.
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>>557689089
>ywn have your own personal universe where you can fuck manekin girls every day
Luci can go fuck himself gimme the solitude.
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New Kaneko demon: Yinglong
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>>557653465
explain. i'm not clicking that shit
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>>557693183
Looks terrible.
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>>557693505
>>557677261
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>>557693505
open your mouth aaaa
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It's lunar new year. Summon Chinese demons for good luck.
Also, which demon of Chinese origin is your favorite? Hardmode: No Nuwa.
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>>557695167
Bai Suzhen is CUTE
CUTE!!!!!
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>>557695167
Beidou Xingjun.
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>>557693895
>start playing SMT
>monster girls everywhere that you can have in your party, constant innuendo during recruitment dialogue
>go check the porn to see what it's like, must be wild
>it's all gay shit
>the saving grace are a few Alice doujins
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died twice with 1 because of a poor dialogue option but hey, getting closer to the finish line
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>>557695167
guo huo niao has an ass that just wont quite
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>>557695167
where's my birdy fuxi (not that fu xi)
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Which SMT non-demon girl with the biggest tits?
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>>557700425
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>>557700425
It’s definitely a DeSu girl
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>>557701047
Yeah kinda goes without saying, i meant in the mainline along with SJ
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>>557701196
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Devil survivor 3 soon
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>>557701546
I never noticed how long her neck was.
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I only played SMTIV and SMTV, I noticed that they reused one of my favorite tracks
https://youtu.be/nppzOMS9nTw?si=6RsOJn5MhCi2siWL
https://youtu.be/UNNrCDD4R0k?si=9hMHTzRGDsRjmpj4
Does any other game in the series have this track?
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>Concentrate
>Tarukaja
>Makarakarn
>Tetrakarn
>Agydine
On my knee this is the pinnacle of IV's combat
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My current Flynn. Opinions?
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>>557709685
What does luck do
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>>557709685
>2 healing abilities
Replace one with a luster candy
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>>557710169
Luck raises crit rate really singificantly in IV.
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am i missing something or the part where jonathan and walter became the face of each factions happened too fast, they were still bickering about if they agreed with Lilith or not and that's it.
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>>557710169
it lucks
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Dx2 is adding Nyx next
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Armaiti <3
https://files.catbox.moe/su1fly.png
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>>557662787
Ugly face
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>>557725419
It's a mask
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>>557653465
I wonder if this existed or the youtuber made it himself, and if it existed exactly where he saw it
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>>557693183
if Kaneko was a guest designer in pokemon he would design something like this
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>>557720576
Really though she would remain in Nocturne forever because of P3's Nyx
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Cultural appropriation Jamaican character has never seen trees
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>>557734093
It would be extremely boring
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>>557734093
That's just what zoomies call the back rooms.
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>the comments
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>>557737252
Bruh what album
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>>557737252
what's this site?
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>>557709685
based, dex is the best build in IV
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>>557738751
lemonparty
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>>557723509
AI?
>>557737252
Which one?
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>>557737398
>>557740280
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjdSC-ENw035qHmw6iRs1EpueE0kXLah2

>>557738751
https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/shin-megami-tensei-devil-summoner-soul-hackers-hyper-arrange
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>>557740617
>TRANSVESTITE_boutique
what the fuck is that track name
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>>557740617
I kinda figured. I was thrown off by the "more like this"
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>>557740617
my problem is they shoved lyrics where the original wasn't made with it in mind, and the remix doesn't change to allow for lyrics. el115 is the only one shifted a little for lyrics. track 7 works since it's very light. a majority of people would give up during or after the third track anyways. i mean track 3 is a guy yelling his ass off for no reason. maybe people would be put off by track 10's title, but it's not bad of a song. most of the songs are worse than the originals, but i can't shit on the whole album because of those flaws.
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i want to play devil survivor 2 overclocked but i am bothered by english va. where can i find an undub rom? the one i found was encrypted so doesn't run on citra
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>>557741112
You didn't play soul hackers I see.
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>>557742538
i'm wracking my brains trying to remember the sterotypical trans shopkkeep in soul hackers. i remember the sterotypically gay hacker twins
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>>557743342
Hint: same character is also in Soul Hackers 2.
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>>557743747
I have not played soul hackers 2
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>>557744342
It's a hint because there are limited locations in that game with shopkeepers. I think only 3. So I narrowed it down for you. Just google it.
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>>557744342
>>557744515
Actually I fucked up because I practically memory holed SH2. It has a lot of shop keepers. I'll just tell you, it's Madame Ginko.
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>>557731152
Shipfags always allignment war shit, meanwhile this incredible 3 stooges but with intense bishounen/bishoujo aura dynamic remains utterly untapped

The true travesty of Vengeance
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>>557740280
Yes AI, no love for Armaiti
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>>557748669
I can draw her for you later tonight, but her design is so complicated it'll probably not end up that good.
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>>557750000
Thanks in advance if you do, and understandable if you don't
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>>557709505
Nope just those two.
Kozuka composed for both of those games.
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>>557437780
Strange Journey Arachne, my beloved
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>>557752438
I will most certainly try.
>>557753346
Oh wow! I never thought anyone would like one of my drawings enough to recolor it, thank you so much anon!
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Imagine if Vengeance had a different endgame and didn’t just swap some bosses around and call it a day
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>>557756626
All that talk about "getting revenge on ourselves for making an underwhelming game" sure went out the door quick
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>>557747480
VV art is limited as it is and Aogami is deeply loyal and tragic. So to do a threesome would feel like a betrayal to Aogami for most of these people. It's the same reason Koshimizu with the MC is isn't that popular and what artists there are for it basically act like Aogami never existed. And the people who want Yoko with the MC act like Aogami ever existed. It's all very strange.
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>>557742271
Just decrypt it, there's a program for that on google
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>>557760461
Pretending other characters don't exist is the name of the game when it comes to unofficial ships. Unless the genre is harem or something it's very hard to justify this character getting together with this character instead of that character.
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Personally I only care about my demon harem
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>>557768995
Same but reverse-harem
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>>557769627
>>557768995
mara fueled posts
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>>557769627
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>>557769627
Canon
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>>557770502
Mara? My HERO
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>>557773429
maya is my hero
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>>557669616
So I made it to the 5th Kalpa, got Dante, and the game was effectively over. I never thought I'd get a party member in an RPG that's more completely game breaking than Cid in FFT but here we are.
Metatron? Ate shit.
Diet building guardians? Massacred.
The Reason Gods? Dunked upon besides Noah who gave me a surprise Game Over because Aurora caused a fully pumped up attack to fly right back into my face. But of course Dante even has answers for that because Stinger doesn't even have a phys element despite clearly using phys damage calculations.
Kagutsuchi was another pushover thanks to Debilitate and then Lucifer whooped my monkey ass several times until I got a run where for some reason he just decided he wasn't going to use Dekunda for a pretty long stint while wasting turns removing a plus 1(one) atk buff.
Story wise Lucifer let me know his big plan was to declare war on the Great Will itself by simply ending the process of rebirth in it's entirety, which I assume would result in the multiverse's stagnation and render GW no longer a truly infinite being.
Deciding that in the long run this is for the best I decided to reject inter-dimensional NEETdom and become Anime Kratos.
My only real question is who was Hijiri really and what in the fuck did he do to make the Great Will so fucking ass-mad that he put him in a perpetual cycle of torment? YHVH threatened me with this before in previous games so the only guess I have is that he's a protag from another world's failed timeline.
Unfortunately the game had no 'The End' screen to speak of.
SMT 3: COMPLETE
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What's with the older Artemis designs and their fifty tits anyways I never understood the mythology of it
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>>557776306
>he got the bad ending
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>>557776326
for me it's a tits holder and a cock holder
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>>557776326
she's a goddess of fertility
kaga meant that means she has 500 boobs
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>>557776453
thought that meant*
>>557776427
makes a bit more sense when you remember her groupies where sworn to chasity and she took being a virgin very seriously
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Is semen retention a good way to summon demons?
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>>557776908
there're a handful of ways to pay off demons historically and semen is by far and away the least painful way to do it even accounting for evil monstrous succubi that drain you to death
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>>557777076
this post was created by a demon trying to tempt you, don't listen to them anon. NEVER ever give your semen to a demon, otherwise you are fucked
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>>557776908
Yes.
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Sex with Tao
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Guys this is like the one internet tab I use to do something other than give myself an erection. Can we chill.
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>>557776306
Another ultra kino game for the increasingly large pile. I can see why this one's considered one of the greats. The gameplay's super solid, especially with bosses in the second half being unforgiving but fair with some neat gimmicks like Albion and Noah. I cannot stress enough how much I like the fact that Demons are able to just randomly approach you, give you random shit or change their skills on the fly meaning that on top of the game already being good, everyone's going to have a different experience and probably different party set-ups based on how those skill changes pan out. Definitely a game I'll be playing again on Hard one of these days.
Story is great while being pretty to the point and the atmosphere is extremely eerie. I only have two gripes.
-I wish we spent more time with the two friends as humans, denim girl's progression seemed natural but hat man's change felt kind of forced especially when he just started blaming you for not being able to save him when he was the one that tried to infiltrate the manikin prison like a retard in the first place.
- This is probably going to be a molten hot nuclear heat take but I really don't like the vortex world's design at all, especially the overworld. Outside of a few outstanding places like the first Nihilo HQ and the Amala Temple it feels very bland, sometimes just being outright brown n' bloom bullshit. The actual 3D demon designs on the other hand are consistently excellent.
Digital Devil Saga next
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>>557779268
we aren't ever gonna get another persona game like p2
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>>557742538
>>557745398
>the song is called transvestite it must be about madam ginko!
>nevermind she has nothing to do with the boutique or paradigm x, or that the only scene that happens in the boutique is nemissa changing her outfit
bruh

>>557743342
there is none, there's the gay hacker twins, madam ginko isn't a shopkeeper and never enters paradigm x
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>>557776306
Out of curiosity, which ending did you gravitate the most to besides Lucifer's? Considering it wasn't in the original game and all.
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>>557780852
If I didn't agree with Lucifer's long game I definitely would have gone World of Solitude. Everyone gets their own world where they can do whatever the fuck they want, becoming god-NEETs? Sign me right up.
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>>557781409
I assume the highest tier of sentience you can interact with in your own world is capped at like an ai chat bot or something. Otherwise if you can create things with actual sentience then it's not really a world of solitude anymore.
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>>557781208
i'm not one to usually criticize dub but ringo english dub feels very off like reading straight from the script.
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>>557781208
It's fun. Have fun anon. The negoation system sucks major ass, no idea why they didn't just do how they do it normally.
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>>557776326
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Artemis
Look at the Ephesian Artemis section.
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>>557782262
I hope Atlus uses the Metaphor VA's going forward. I don't know if I can stomach another Atlus game with LA voice actors.
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I've been playing a lot of old smt games and I forgot how scummy modern atlus is with selling leveling/money/item dlcs
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Favorite VV track that isn't a battle/area theme?
For me it's https://youtu.be/WaU9r8vmaD8?si=C8wovQYToHfYhzbf
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>>557785925
This sounds like a music track from Persona 3. Kozuka continues to be disappointing as usual.
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>>557788989
Whenever I ask a question just assume I'm never talking to you Avery.
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sorry Lilith, they serve my cock now
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>>557784521
If Atlus were based, they would add level drain in again with demons made to stunlock auto battling.
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>>557789996
Alright then.
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>>557791424
nice ass
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oh man so many yaps in SH2
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>>557792909
you get to get drunk with them to yap some more. The intro is pretty slow since they wanted to make it persona like. At least it's not like persona where you have to wait 5+ hours for shit to happen
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tamaki is cute its a shame she got banished to the shadow realm after ep
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>>557796007
most atlus related things got shafted after P3 made money
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>>557779268
Started Devil Saga. Unfortunately screenshots from non-steam programs (pcsx2 in this case) don't play nice with screenshot sharing so I won't be able to post them the way I prefer, so instead some random early thoughts.
-Game's fucking weird in a good way, 'cannibalistic cyberpunk demon gang killing and devouring an armless zebra man' wasn't even in the top 90 percent of ways I could have guessed things would kick off.
-Gameplay is a massive departure from the established formula so far, being more of a classic jrpg with an SMT coat of paint. That Mantra skill tree is huge
-I think this is the first game I've encountered in the series where the protag is not nameable besides stuff like Jack Bros.
-Cutscenes are shot much more like a movie than Nocturne was with even things as simple as the first visit to the store and terminal getting really nice visuals. You can tell the team was either completely different or learned a bunch from making SMT3 that they applied here. Far fewer still shots and those that are there are angled well. Also somebody sure likes their slow-mo matrix shots.
-Party demon designs are sick, 50% demon, 25% super sentai monster , 25% Cenobite
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>>557798136
gameplay tip, eat a lot of dudes its how you get exp for the mantra. sell the money items at full moon for the most money, one of them wants to be sold at new moon but I forgot which one. also have your dudes level the skill tree of whatever they're weak to so they can learn to eventually resist that element. you'll want to level one of the mantras that gives resist to death and expel in the mid-late game if you plan to fight beelzebub
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>>557798979
>have your dudes level the skill tree of whatever they're weak to so they can learn to eventually resist that element.
Ah, I had a feeling I was going to have to do that.
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does SH2 work like you grind enough, recruit some new demons, and after your MP runs out you just go to the nearest terminal to teleport you to the place you can rest?
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Yaso Magatsuhi
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Can I beat Satan in Vengeance with
>Agrat DPS
>Nahotwinko Paraselene Blur/Lumi Mirage
>Naamah Debuffer/Backup healer
>Sakuya Healer/Statbuffer/Mana restore
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>>557822091
depends on how good your Agrat is, should have maxed Almighty affinity, pleroma and very high luck so she crits often
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>>557822091
>no avocado
0/10
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Bump
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>>557837405
>He deleted
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Would Susano-o killing Amaterasu be considered offensive to the Japanese?
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>>557844507
I don't think so. Because Susano-o would be made the villain for doing it. But if you didn't do that, like painted Amaterasu as an evil villain then yes that would be upsetting.
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>>557844507
They don't seem offended by Susan O. being made into a flaming faggot so no
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>>557698297
>Retard realizes most monsterfuckers are women or fags
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>>557844507
Depend entirely on how it's handled but you can usually get away with most things if you clearly say that it's another world and not ours or one that look very much like ours.
Yugioh managed to pull an evil Amaterasu and no one cared because she wasn't fapbait and it was clearly not our world.
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>>557845579
You don't understand how they perceive their mythology to think that. Their gods are formless spirits that splinter off into different forms and even reproduce on their own despite the fact that they marry and do hetero things too. It's the same reason they they are fine reinterpreting gender bent versions of gods in their media regardless if it makes sense or not. So making Susano-o gay is fine. The only thing that pisses them off is how Amaterasu is handled because she's tied to the royal family. You can do anything you want with her, even make her male but you can't have her get married or do anything that implies she has sex. That and make her evil in whatever story you're telling. Amaterasu being a holy virgin is tied to the royal family's right to the throne. Anything that puts her in that kind of negative light would be considered an insult to them.
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>>557725583
Her eyelids are white. Its not a mask
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My headcanon is definitely that Yoko was Kaneko Lilith's knowledge. Doi Lilith is explicitly from a different world so she can still exist unlike Amaterasu and old Lilith who ceased to exist after Tao and Yoko awakened as goddesses.
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>>557847078
Holy fuck....
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>>557847078
My headcanon is that Yoko is what's left of Amaterasu after she died but was unable to he revived. She is literally Tao's shadow. This is the meaning of GW ceiling Yoko away. Tiamat is another Izanami, so it only makes sense her Goddess of Creation was Amaterasu and for that she was banned.
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>>557847890
Why not just say Yoko is Izanami's knowledge? It fits just as well and isn't complicated.
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>>557847890
>This is the meaning of GW ceiling Yoko away
No i'm pretty sure that is a direct reference to Lilith being discarded by god and replaced by the more agreeable/robotic Eve/Tao. Amaterasu doesn't mean shit to YHVH.
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>>557849898
Why did you think of Lilith and not it being a comparison to Lucifer and how he rebelled against god?
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>>557844507
Well the Japanese were the ones that made Amaterasu a literal bitch so I don't think they care that much
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>>557851242
NTA, but the Tao connection and the garden of eden imagery is as on the nose as it gets. The first goddes of creation was a rowdy heretic and was banished by God and replaced with someone made to be subservient literally describes the two Eves.
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>>557851940
The Japanese love Okami so much they consider the soundtrack a national treasure. It has more Amaterasu praise in it than any other game I know.
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>>557852240
Really? I don't see how you can see praise in making a deity a lesser creature like a dog instead of a human form
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>>557852406
Because making shinto deities into animals is fine.
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>>557852026
And you say that while ignoring the first on the nose reference when the MC fuses with Aogami? You had the tree and Lucifer orchestrating an original sin, breaking the condemnation.
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>>557852717
The MC is Adam my dude. Withe forbidden fruit of knowledge Adam the man becomes Adam the God.
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>>557852717
You are trying to connect the plot of base V with Vengeance which is a fools errand. Lucifer has basically nothing to do with Vengeance.
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>>557849898
>Yoko and Tao
>T-Elos and Kosmos
>Lilith and Eve
>Dark Amaterasu and Ookami Amaterasu

The duality of woman. Chaos and Law.
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>>557853196
>>557853270
>The MC is Adam because uhhhhh
>base V has nothing to do with Vengeance because uhhhhhhhhh
Utterly retarded and missing the whole point of the Adam and Eve shit in the game just to push a romance end with either Tao or Yoko the game doesn't even do. The spirit tree which is the closest thing to a tree of knowledge in the game is associated with the Nahobino and fusing the two halves into a whole. The Nahobino defies the old order (YHVH) but embraces the true god's will (Great Will) which is the will you are trying to understand through Da'at (God's Will). That is where the Adam and Eve narrative is and always has been. Vengeance didn't throw that narrative out the window. It just added extra context to it, like Samael explaining Lucifer plotted to have Aogami and the MC meet, Yoko acts as a proxie for Samael and tempts the MC to chaos, Tao is like the angel trying to convince him not to sin that speaks for the Great Will, and so on.
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>>557854230
>You're just shipping, you don't understand the Adam and Eve symbolism at all
>Now ignore this blatant Adam and Eve imagery because it interferes with my precious gay babies

Hypocrite that you are
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>>557854230
But what does that have to do with female oppression at the hands of bull gods? The plot isn't literally only about the MC and Aogami so I don't see why-
>just to push a romance end with either Tao or Yoko the game doesn't even do.
Oh I understand what your problem is now. Lmao.
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>>557854485
I don't see any reason to push Yoko and Tao as Lilith and Eve at all. It's not blatant. That's why I have to bring up shipping.

>But what does that have to do with female oppression at the hands of bull gods?
Why do you feel it doesn't if Yoko is a fallen angel and Tao isn't? It's about female oppression but it's also mainly about all those who are oppressed by bull god rule. Even Komori said the feminism angle was accidental and wasn't the point at first. It became that way when Doi asked to include the Qadištu.
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It's worth mentioning that Lilith's human name she uses in every SMT game is Yuriko.
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This reminds me of an indian fuming in some Youtube video's comments because they made Baal a higher level than Vishnu in V.
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>>557855450
He's also different in every game since 1. In 1 she serves Lucifer but also wants to find someone that reminds her of Adam and start the new world with them. In IV she serves Lucifer and not much else. There is no mention of finding an Adam figure. In V, Lilith is basically an extension of Samael's will and according to Doi exists to appose and defy Adam and the Great Will. So she's like the opposite of Lilith in 1.
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>>557852406
because it's a pun. okami means wolf. and o-kami means god.
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>>557852406
Because you're thinking like an American
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>>557864790
Don't insult me like that by calling me an amerikike
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>>557865105
Okay, /pol/lack retard
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The qadistu were summoned by Samael. The qadistu are enacting Samael's will. The will of the qadistu is Samael's will. Yoko claims she is the will of the qadistu itself. Samael is a red snake. Yoko's goddess form is red and has a snake head.
>this is totally Lilith guys
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>>557866149
Then who is she supposed to be? Because the whole being passed over for Tao seems pretty obvious to me.
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>>557866875
Maybe bulding an always crit murakumo nahobino was too much for the normal difficulty. I have been destroying every Ueno sidequest boss very easy with it
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>>557871967
didn't mean to reply
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Hehehehe, demon sex
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>>557866875
I feel like my post was very self explanatory.
Yoko was sealed away because she was too chaotic, but that was a GW decision. Outside of that YHVH has been shitting on creation goddesses well before Yoko. Tao would have been shit on too if YHVH was alive to do so. So stop saying she's chosen or passed over. That wasn't the point here.
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>>557873772
>Yoko was sealed away because she was too chaotic
No? She was sealed away because YHVH wanted to keep the throne. Yoko didn't do anything to warrant her sealing which is why she thinks it was so unfair.
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Demons stole my bike
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>>557874007
YHVH took her power but sealing her away as if she never existed was the GW. That's how the route lock is possible and how the original V can exist in it's own timeline.
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>>557874204
I left my computer ungarded once and jack frost bricked all my vidya saves
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>>557874490
Is the written reason for Yoko being sealed away literally because she was "too chaotic"? Because that doesn't make much sense when her oppression is what made those chaotic ideals manifest. It's also not like The Great Will sealed away Yuzuru for wanting to create a chaotic world or Yakumo for wanting to destroy the throne and deny creation entirely.
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>>557874204
Can't have shit in da pocalips, maaaaan
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I hope the next SMT game is another comfy occult one
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>>557875087
Actually fuck all that why did The Great Will seal away the Goddess of creation that he chose? Nobody else picked Yoko to be the creation goddess 18 years before V.
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Hehehehehe, lawful sex
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>>557875087
You can rewatch the route lock cutscene and that's basically what the GW says. Yuzuru's version of chaos didn't involve cutting the world from the throne entirely.
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>>557878498
The voices at the beginning of the game are The Great Will? Is that confirmed? And if they are why would they let you do something they don't want? It doesn't make any sense to me at all that Yoko's powers were sealed by YHVH and then the will of the fucking universe decided to double seal her so she doesn't exist when that same will of the universe is what chose her to be the goddess of creation to begin with.
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>>557879572
It's the GW because YHVH is already dead so there is no one else it can be. What that voice says also lines up with what Goko and Mastema think.
Another reason it's likely is probably because of SJR. The three wise men that ended up being Shekinah used a mixed male/female VA and Shekinah is directly connected to the GW so it's likely referencing that.
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I am close to finishing SMT V. Why did some big parts of the story happen off-screen?
>Lucifer killed YHVH before the game even starts
>Dazai going crazy off-screen, the change is abrupt
>Nuwa dying off-screen
>Tao becoming a goddess off-screen
>Same for Yoko
>Whatever Khonsu was doing
>Koshimizu and Yuzuru going to the Qadistu
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>>557880390
But Yoko was sealed 18 years ago. You know when YHVH was still alive. I don't buy this double sealing thing. The explaination that makes the most sense is everything to do with Yoko being taken out of the equation was done by the god of law and nothing else.
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>>557880586
>Dazai going crazy off-screen, the change is abrupt
any characters that got scouted by any random demons will always go crazy off-screen and will start to fight you in any SMT games, not just him but you see it in Nocturne with Chiaki and Isamu, SJ with Jimenez and Zelenin and IV with Jonathan and Walter who is even more egregious if you play in Neutral because the last time you split up with them, they had no prior connection with both Merkabah and Lucifer but they just fused into each of them. it's just what it is.
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>>557881156
maybe i'm kinda wrong with SJ since both Zelenin and Jimenez did have some reasoning but the rest is alright
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I deserve a Abdiel gf.
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Why are wood and tree 2 different races?
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>>557882307
Different alignment.
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Why are dragon and drake 2 different races?
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>>557882549
Honestly alignment locking races doesn't even make sense for half of them.
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>>557882307
Good plant and evil plant
>>557882576
Good dragon and evil dragon.
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>>557882307
>>557882576
We have a Light-Dark spectrum alongside the Law-Chaos alignment.
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>>557882712
I agree, it's even more confusing if you look into each demon individually.
>you kill demons and protect humanity? You must be chaos aligned!
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my aunt said SMT Nine remaster is in the pipeline
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>>557880970
Are you being retarded on purpose or what? YHVH is dead by the time the route lock happens. How is YHVH talking to the MC when he's dead?
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>>557880586
Too much of the game happens off screen but at least everything you mention gets explained. I think they purposefully didn't want to make SMTV cutscene heavy but then it makes people think nothing happened because reading about things that happened off screen is boring.
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It’s not even about V/VV not being cutscene heavy they genuinely just choose not to show stuff that they should.
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>asking me to sacrifice Cybele and Lilim for Lilith
fuck you
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>>557890278
They never talked about it to my knowledge I'm just assuming that's why based on feedback from IV/IVA.
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>>557889932
Who is saying the voices at the beginning are YHVH? They could be The great will or they could be something that doesn't even matter. The point is YHVH is the one who sealed away Yoko because he's the only one that had a reason to.
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>>557890783
You're going to insist the owner of that voice isn't the one that put Yoko there despite explaining why she's there and the consequences of letting her out? Why do you think that makes sense? Did releasing her break the Shekinah Glory?
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>>557883362
robin hood is chaotic good
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>>557890980
The voice explaining to you why she's there and the consequences but also not being responsible for putting her there is A LOT more believable than the force that chose her as goddess also sealed her away.
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>>557891672
The GW can read the future because Mastema admits to it in his quest involving Satan, that is why he knew to seal her. There is really nothing that implies the GW hand picks a creation goddess or not just that when it's time for a new ruler a goddess is born. YHVH taking her power put her on a chaotic path that was going too far for the GW, so he stepped in. I don't understand why that's unbelievable because YHVH had no reason to take her power and then seal her on top of it all. None of his angels talk about sealing her away either.
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>>557892237
If he can see the future why did he even allow Yoko to be a goddess? You can't tell me the will of the universe has no influence on who becomes a goddess. Also if Yoko's ending is considered too far by GW then why the fuck is True Neutral a possible route if that route ALSO goes against what he wants? Tao even ditches you in that route and Goko is all like "muh throne!"
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>>557893564
Destroy the throne would be a plot hole but it got an explanation already. If you unlock true neutral but decline at the last minute and choose to destroy it Tao will have new dialog and say that she's sad but all she has to do is wait for the next opportunity, implying that destroying the throne will never be enough to get rid of it. If you want it really gone the whole world has to be destroyed and restarted and that's why the GW is pissed. As long as you're using the throne or it can come back, nothing else matters.
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>>557893851
So you're telling me they retconned the original true ending to not have actually accomplished anything?
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>>557894429
I'm talking about the destroy the throne ending.
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>>557894534
I think you have actually ruined the plot of this game for me. I can't get over how retarded and inept the great will comes across as if what you are saying is correct.
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>>557896674
If you want to think that sure but you could just reread what Satan and Mastema say in the quest leading up to his super boss fight. If anything Lucifer is inept because he could only break Mandala in one world and not all of them.
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>muh cycle muh cycle muh cycle
ENOUGH
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>>557897771
Noble Voice: Fuck you
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>>557897771
Then end it son of man.
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>>557897492
>If anything Lucifer is inept because he could only break Mandala in one world and not all of them
They must have recast him in the sequel. Nocturne Lucifer seemed very aware about the multiverse.
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>>557898054
Lucifer being retarded in V is the actual retcon. In Maniax he gave the impression that he understood the whole cycle and even how to fight the Great Will head on. But in V apparently all that was futile and all he did was blow up Demi's world and got no further in killing the GW. So then he ends up in V's world, consumes YHVH's knowledge and then sees the truth about the cycle. So his cope is to bend the laws of the throne to keep a god in power forever so it basically breaks the cycle by pausing it. Satan will tell you in any ending you kill Lucifer, this works, but it doesn't change any other world. Lucifer's original goal in III was to end the cycle for every world and ended up only stopping it in one world and then committing suicide, lmao.
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>>557898486
That's the main reason why I really didn't want V to be a sequel to Nocturne. But when they throw in connections like a 1to1 Asakusa it's basically undeniable.
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>>557898809
You didn't need anything else besides the Demi dlc in the original. That whole segment explains everything about V being a Nocturne sequel. Vengeance just made it even more blatant I guess for the retards who didn't get it the first time.
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>>557898934
The DLC was explicit but it was still optional content. Asakusa and the Archangels coming out saying they used to serve Baal was just in the base game.
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Hopefully this means we never have to deal with nocturne Lucifer's bullshit ever again, hopefully...
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<3
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Woman are so bad at writing gay smut. They just don't get it.
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Question, what does it mean if I've listened to the Akira battle theme over 500 times
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>>557903926
It means you like good music.
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Shinichiro Miki does a great job as Lucifer
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>>557900345
>YHVH is dead
>Lucifer is dead
>the stage is set for a new alignment paradigm
>SMTVI trailer starts
>"Somehow, YHVH (and Lucifer) returned"
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>>557903926
it means you're based
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I can't see this guy anymore without being reminded of that fucking smt eceleb
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>>557907893
grim
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>>557894534
>>557896674
>>557897492
On the subject of the Throne of Creation, I hope that whatever Doi is working on is some kind of DLC where you do a boss rush of every god/demon that has sat upon it. But lore wise, has there been anyone from a non-Mediterranean adjacent area that has sat on the throne of creation? Has Brahma or the Jade Emps ever sat on it or is it just these Gods that just so happen to line up with territories conquered/annexed by the Roman Empire at one point or another? Obviously this wiki is going by what's actually stated in the game, but I can't help but wonder if Atlus will ever release a full list of those who sat upon the throne itself. Also, why did YHWH's "no gods before me" decree affect areas like East, South and SEA which have/had more surviving polytheistic religions than the areas with majority Abrahamic religion adherence. Is this a reference to the high rates of atheism within East Asia? But then again Shiva's superboss status seems to imply a greater degree of autonomy for Bethel India if he's able to send Vasuki as a delegate.
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>>557911013
Did Doi say he was working on something recently?
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>>557906157
Doesn't matter, SMT games don't share a universe
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SMT games don't share a universe YET
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>>557900345
Mastema replaces him as the primary devil figure of the series.
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I just got to the Temple of Eternity how much longer do I have? I cleaned out all the side content except for Demi-fiend and the level-gated portal.
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>>557921608
There's another "dungeon" after that then you're donegeon
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>>557924071
The Empyrean really isn't another dungeon, rather it's just the top floor of the Temple of Eternity.

That said quite a few sidequests and optional bosses open up once you reach it, and of course there's a boss rush up there, so there's still a couple of hours left.
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>>557912206
NTA but no. For some reason, anons believe that there's some "big DLC for VV is coming" when we literally know that development ended for VV around early 2025 and the EO team are now working on something EO related while also assisting P-Studio with P4R.
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>>557924452
>The Empyrean really isn't another dungeon
Hence the quotation marks
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>>557914168
p1/2 likes to refrence devil summoner
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back to SJR again
yey
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>>557911013
Zeus shouldn't be on this list.
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>>557924459
Remember when Vfags here were convinced that "SMT VV EX" was going to be a thing and just something made for Spotify? Or how Atlus was going to show off a season pass for VV in the VGAs?
I swear these guys are afraid to play anything else since VV was their first JRPG after pokemon and nusona.
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>>557929273
Zeus was in the throne but later cedes it to Baal
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>>557929852
*not just something made for Spotify?
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fucking louisa ferr in the ass
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Louisa Ferre fucking me in the ass
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Tell me about Hikaru
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>>557930753
>>557930872
I like her feet
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>>557929890
No he didn't.
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>>557932065
Do Saturnus's quest
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>>557924459
No one is working on EO and everything you said is made up. VV content is theorized because Doi said in the last VV interview he's waiting for his next opportunity to talk about VV development. No one knows what "next opportunity" means. It could be game content, maybe an artbook, hard to say. Also in terms of development, it looks like anything being worked on is in early drafts if anything according to the yearly affirmations in famitsu.
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Fucking Louisa Ferre in her vagina (male)
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>>557932268
>No one is working on EO and everything you said is made up.
Do you really think the team that's responsible for the EO games aren't working on something EO related? VV hasn't gotten anything for over a year and Atlus is focusing on upcoming projects.
It's safe to say that VV development is done and over with.
>Because Doi said in the last VV interview he's waiting for his next opportunity to talk about VV development
Yet a entire year passed by and nothing came out it. Not very different from what he said in that in the small interview for the release of SMT V physical soundtrack.
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>>557935640
>Do you really think the team that's responsible for the EO games aren't working on something EO related?
Could they be? Sure. But there is nothing that confirms they are anywhere and the last thing we've heard from team maniax is that they are all in early drafts of whatever they might be working on. EO is a pipe dream right now.
>Yet a entire year passed by and nothing came out it.
Which does not confirm nor deny anything.
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>I wake up
>I see Xenoblade chronicles X get a shadow dropped swich 2 edition
I know working with Sega can be difficult, that financial report doesn't paint a pretty picture, but surely it can't be that expensive to make a Switch 2 edition of SMT VV can it?
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>>557937464
Shit is not in a good state, bro.
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Are Japanese video games losing their touch again after their 2017 renaissance? Dragon quest VII reimagined Shows squeenix is going for an ultra casual audience and even atlus is struggling, with metaphor not doing as well as expected. Final fantasy is basically dead and the new FE looks as generic as always. Even the new Atelier sucked.

Is it just me or is the post 2017 golden age over
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>>557938442
Atlus has had access to the dev kits for switch 2 for a while. This doesn't affect them.
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>>557941130
most companies won't get access for a couple of years since they want them to develop for the base switch
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>>557941046
>and the new FE looks as generic as always
amogus but TRPG is not what I would call generic.
It looks dogshit, sure, but they're at least trying something new.
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I didn't realize until 80+ hours in that the team slot position of your demons mattered a LOT in vengeance
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The new FE is literally just Three Houses 3 because Intelligent Systems is trying to milk the fuck out of Fodlan. Which honestly makes all the shitting on Engage to feel completely unfair since at least it was trying to do something unique and introduce new fans akin to what Awakening did back in the 2010s.
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>>557942980
The last actual FE game was Radiant Dawn.
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>defending Engage
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>>557943150
>Radiant Dawn
>The game that almost killed the franchise
lmao
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>>557948983
I do not care about sales. It was still a good game.
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>>557949463
>Good game
It was seen as dogshit back in the day due to the atrocious writing like blood pacts and most of the units being unviable
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>>557949860
Back in the day we didn't know how bad things could get.
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>>557950131
Not a excuse
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>>557945802
Engage is a good game with great gameplay that suffers from a poor localization and newfags being angry that it's not Three Houses again. But hey, I hope the FE fanbase enjoys nothing but Fodlan for the next 4 to 7 years. They'll understand the pain Zelda and Persona fans have to go through.
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I want to marry this onahole
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>>557953130
Every time the MC fucks Aogami she also feels it and orgasms and vice versa.
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>>557950896
I'm looking forward to it for a couple reasons. Most importantly it will be something new to discuss. Getting a decent game with nothing to talk about is how you get a 2 week old Metaphor general.
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>>557950896
Even with the dogshit localization it has shitty writing in nip too.
Komura needs to go.
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>>557953293
I only fuck demon women
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>>557953130
fucking hate this bitch so much
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>>557953570
Aogami moans will drown out your fucking of Amanozako.
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>>557953785
why, she's cute and bratty and adorable and sex
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>>557953293
>>557953850
Weird groomer behaviour.
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>>557954340
Why did you assume talking about adult characters is grooming?
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>>557953953
she insists upon herself
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>>557954448
you are grooming anons into accepting AogamixMC ship.
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>>557955142
>you are grooming anons
Haha, yes. Be groomed by my overpowering influence. My posts are brainwashing you right now.
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>>557954448
I’m saying that you’re being a weirdo by bringing up Aogami over and over when that anon wants to have sex with the ‘zako.
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>>557956972
What is your plan to stop me?
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>>557957348
I already shamed you and now you’re upset.
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>>557957394
Do I act ashamed?
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Leftoids bow to Adramelech. Rightoids kneel before Bael. Mammon continues to pull all our strings.
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>>557957669
Kino
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>>557957669
Liberals serve Adramelech. True left is anarchy and liberation from the cycle.
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weak 1-5 multi hit
vs
medium strength 1-3 multi hit
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>>557960010
Medium has more of a payoff.
90 weak (estimating, most likely closer to 75/80)
120 medium

Max of 450 vs max of 360. But in SMT luck with the amount of hits makes each hit more unlikely. So getting all 450 is unlikely unless abusing the luck stat heavily. Most games will never give a 100% chance to do every hit in a multihit. It ultimately evens out, but the latter most likely has a stronger HP cost.
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GOOOD EVENING, I love Raidou so much!! And I love you all, /smtg/!! It's been a while, I hope you've all been well!
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I would sacrifice Raidou if we could get a new Queen's Blade anime
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I would sacrifice Raidou for a gf
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SMT V fags whenever they group together to discuss something:
https://youtu.be/l_Mq9FaZqVs?si=kBjhMu1Yoap__0OU
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mfw when I see warren post another tracking link on /smtg/
>I have no mfw
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I can't decide whether the party dialogue is profound or retarded. I do miss all the little conversations your party would have in early persona while visiting shops and such. wish it caught on to other megaten games, it would actually make me give a shit about the designated law and chaos hero if they had little bants while I was gearing us up
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>>557975451
>profound or retarded
I mean, those aren't multually exclusive.
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Today in Japan it's 23rd anniv of Nokchurn
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>>557978085
If Nocturd is so good why they didn't made Nocturd 2??
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>>557978085
I can't be bothered to fact check this, so i'll just take you at your word. I love cockturne.
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Fuck Persona.
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>>557979897
Fuck Persona, fuck SMTV, fuck SH2, fuck TMS, fuck DeSu 2, fuck Ronde
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>>557978959
smtv?
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>critical aura
>luster candy
>debilitate
>queen's decree
>murakumo
>repeat
working great, wonder how much it will last
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>>557984653
Hard Mode? I've just been brute forcing with 8 back-to-back crit Murakumos on Normal.
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heavenly ikuyumi is stronger than murakumo right? for some reason i can't find murakumo but already found ikuyumi
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>>557986163
Ikuyimi is magic based, murakumo is strength based
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Could YOU manage to breed down in Tokyo,
/smtg/ ?
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>>557991147
Most people seem to depressed/have given up in general to want to fuck in tokyo
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girls on SJR surprisingly have some chests on them especially Alex. poor Lucifer though.
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>>557980117
Why Devil Survivor 2 ?
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The last member of my demon harem
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Full stock just before reaching the throne
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>>557993492
no artemis :(
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>>557993571
I favor barefoot demons
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>there are posters that don't fuse their demons in this thread
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>>557912206
>>557924459
We don't know for sure. I was thinking about that vague statement Doi made when making that initial post. Since it was indeed vague, it could be anything really. I wouldn't be surprised if it was something mundane blown out of proportion though.

>>557932258
NTA but fun fact, I stumbled into Saturnus's quest without really seeking it out. I was just mainly going to that area to get to that kickass grinding spot in Taito. I figured nothing would be there since you fight both Zeus and Odin at the same area. I'm glad I stumbled into it though because I unlocked Saturnus for fusion which made me one step closer to completing my compendium.
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>>557999236
>kickass grinding spot
which demons are there?
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i'll end it thus
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>>557999783
Fenrirs and Mitamas if you have the mitama dlc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUftKHsl61w
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>gog build somehow still could defeat samael
>all I needed was re-trying the battle 3x and hoping the RNG didn't kill any of my demons.
now this is peak laziness
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I finished SMTV:V recently and thought the Chaos ending was kinda meh but then I imagined myself as a 5'2 balding Indian janitor and realized why tearing everything down to begin again would be a sensible option for an individual.
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Was watching https://youtu.be/47txOb68Cdw where I found out dude had to use both Beast Eye and Dragon Eye for his Figment Slash because I thought stacking crits skill would be better like Bloody Glee and Murderous Glee but I just found out FS has dogshit accuracy? Like cmon 50 MP and needs to be carried with 2 accuracy riser
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>>558016515
The high handed concepts of SMT like destroying and recreating the world never do anything for me, but I love the aesthetics of the ending with the revised Garden of Eden scene. It might be my favorite ending of SMT in general, in that it most feels like you witnessed the basis for a new religious mythology.
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>>558024983
Apparently Figment Slash is more reliable. Idk I never tried either build, I would have imagined a build around Akashic Art would be the strongest. Or Myriad Slash with Crit Aura.
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>>557950131
>"9/11 isn't that bad since we had no idea worse things would happen years later"
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>>558027141
>the ending is better if I use headcanon
Oof.
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>>558029358
Now, the amount of seethe the ending generates from you is definitely impressive.
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>>558030673
Why did you assume I was seething?
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Why are cycles supposed to be so bad anyways?
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>>558032334
You cannot achieve enlightenment and escape the turn of history. No matter what you so it's doomed to change hands with the ages forever if you can't escape.
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>>558032334
Because your life gets upended I guess.
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>>558032334
I prefer scooters
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>>558029092
This but unironically.
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>>558029092
I think in the eyes of YVHV 9/11 pales in comparison to the victims from war on terror in Middle East
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Bino
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Is there any reason to not save Shiva for until the very end in CoV? There's no secret ending this time right?
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>>558038056
tranny tier pfp
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>>558038536
Just another sidequest and not even a sidequest that unlocks godborn
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>>558038056
Bold of Atlus to turn Susano-o into 2 gay men.
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>>558038536
I saved just next to his layline last night after getting to lvl 80 in the throne
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He's based on Epstein, right?
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>>558044246
What you should be realizing is that there are more Epsteins and more islands we haven't "found" yet.
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Please, please please put a reference to the burning Baal statues in Iran in SMT VI. I know they won't but it's so smt it hurts.
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I'm the kind of guy who will restart long rpgs over the smallest reasons. I think Yoko's ending is for me.
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>>558038536
Defeating him still unlocks true Lucifer fight which is way better this time around.
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>>557953130
its funny that V-kun has like 5 designated wives
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>>558051076
Aogami, Koshimizu, Tao, Yoko, and Amanozako?
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>>558052620
Replace Koshimizu with Mermaid.
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Foul Cloudflare
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>>558052731
For Yuzuru's sake at the very least.
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I let demi fiend join my party but he keeps harrassing me
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>>558061464
He's the bug (HIV) inside you
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>>558061464
Raping the Nahobino is all fun and games until you realize you're actually raping Aogami and the young man can't feel anything you're doing.
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>>558061464
you need to let him rape you, as a display of dominance over him, of course
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I like Dagda better as a young boy groomer over Aogami.
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>>558068327
dagda would never groom because that would require interaction with another person (he hates this)
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>>558077808
the only good persona antagonist
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Nyarl is the worst Persona antagonist. No compelling motives or interesting backstory. He's just "LOL I'M JUST SUPER FUCKING EVIL, DEAL WITH IT" and loses to a couple of adults despite being presented as this nearly-unstoppable eldritch god in Innocent Sin.
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>>558078921
That would be Louis
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>>558078921
...
i honestly enjoyed most persona antagonists. even kandori despite p1 being "outdated". mitsuo from p4 is actually pretty good too and no one gives him any credit. adachi is decent but he gets turned into a meme villain way too often even by his fans. most p5 villains are fine too and do what they're supposed to narratively. my favorite is goro though.
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>>557991147
I would breed Asahi. I’d save her after nanashi dies and doesn’t revive, fuck her as a reward, have her as my heroine and let the Stockholm syndrome hit her, especially when her dad dies and she has to rely on me now that everyone in her life is gone.
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>>558080489
he made a bet with philemon about humanity's potential and rigged it by giving dreams to conspiracy theorists and a serial arsonist to make a death prophecy come true, also fucking with the persona 2 gang with the mask circle stuff, while philemon basically does nothing other than give the gang personas and say do your best guys, I know narly is a cheating bastard but I'm honorable or something so figure it out gang. he wins at the end of IS and philemon basically pulls a "nuh-huh doesn't count" timeline switch. the EP gang is basically on the backfoot with the new world order stuff the entire game and the world almost ends for a second time before they go into the dungeon to beat the shit out of narly who's just having a lot of fun clowning on tatsuya for remembering. and then a last fuck you philemon sends tatsuya back to his timeline because the higher beings in megami tensei are all massive assholes. they took innocent childhood friendships and massacred it repeatedly just for a bet.
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>>558087948
That sounds stupid as hell.
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>>557798136
>Get to Maribel base
>"huh, the more I look at it the more this game seems like it's taking visual inspiration from the Fist of the North Star manga. Probably just a coincidence."
>The very next boss is a dude named Bat
>mfw

Made it to the citadel where I'm currently hunkered down in a major save room. Difficulty wise this is easily the most unforgiving start since the series decided to drop the dungeon crawler style. Game's fucking brutal, with each of the scripted mob encounters being various flavors of 'Fuck You If You Didn't Prepare For This Specific Element/Mechanic' which would normally not be a major issue but the mantra system means move pools are pretty limited to start with. It's better in the citadel but they already have people hitting us with tier two spells and AoE charms left and right.
please YHVH and/or Lucifer let there be a passive element resist skill light at the end of the mantra tunnel
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Damn NG+ in VV is fucking SHIT. Why can't they let us carry over our unlocked portals?
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>>558078921
Strega rivals everybody
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>>558078921
Most of them are actually pretty good.
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>>558097003
strega are actually the only antagonists i consider to be bad in persona games. they're the main threat for most the game but they're so underwhelming somehow. and their assassination site subplot never goes anywhere. their characterization changes each game too.
>og p3/p3 fes
false messiah themed death cult who wants to give up what life they could have for instant gratification and they wish for death
>p3p
similar but now they're anti friendship or something despite having bonds with each other
>p3r
uses p3p characterization but now revolver jesus also hates cars because someone at atlus thinks they're funny
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>>558093858
is there anything else not carried over in NG+ if I want to play CoC after finishing CoV, do I have to search for Miman, Amalgam, Abscess again?
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Nothing like forcing the Qadistu to bring down mommy.
AOGAMI!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!
Koshimizu...
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>>558101492
Did you clap?
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>>558102697
No, I'm not american
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fuck yeah, now i can focus on getting the ending
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she's so beautiful bros..
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>>558107258
>she's so beauti- ACK
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kwab
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GIWTWM
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aleph
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hijiri
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>>558121238
>>558123562
Wrong
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>>558099861
P3P is a curse and a blessing. It adds gameplay aspects that SMTV/P5 brought back in some shape or form, but also fucked over the plot and other aspects of the gameplay.
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>>558107258
I liked Yoko before she changed but her pangaia outfit genuinely made her my favorite SMT human (adjacent) girl.
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>>558084054
>adachi is decent but he gets turned into a meme villain way too often even by his fans
I fucking hate adachifags so fucking much
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>>558136489
I don't think any SMT antagonist has the "he's literately me" aspect in the fandom like him
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>>558136709
he is laterally me though
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i thought Ouroboros was like this big filter boss but for some reason the next bosses in Forneus and Jack Squad are even harder because they can just bullshit you with 200hp damage out of nowhere. even having someone with Mediarahan it's just not enough, they barely heal ffs.
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>>558137059
you think you're Adachi, but you're actually Mitsuo
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I'm actually ulala
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>>558084054
>even kandori
Based, Kandori is great. People don't talk about him because nobody has played P1 but I'm sure when P1R comes out in 2080 everyone will start praising him
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having only played EP its so funny seeing nanjo go
>kandori why you where on the path to redemption
and kandori says
>sorry dude I'm just evil thats just how it is
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Fucking finally, die blue nigger
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Playing DDS1 and things are going good, does anyone know the healing formula?
Medi heals about 50 to Nakajima and only 20 to Cerberus, at first I thought it was based on wisdom because it was only healing around 20 to Yumiko but now it heals about 60 for her and Alraune.
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>>558139850
L O N D O N
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If I didn't kill Lucifer now the star would have wiped my party
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gonna make a harem party of tao yoko and sakuya bros
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Bumpdyne
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>>558140546
Despite EP writing being dogshit, I really liked that Kandori scene. It shows that he's aware of being used like a puppet and harbors no bad feelings towards Nanjo. Their battle is nothing more but your typical "good vs evil" moment.
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I'm addicted to grinding demon sources.
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After experiencing V I don't think I can enjoy how old Nocturne and IV feel, should have played those first
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>After experiencing V I don't think I can enjoy how old Nocturne and IV feel, should have played those first
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>>558162673
chill out unc
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>>558158424
I liked ep's writing. for the characters anyways, the mainplot with the new world order felt phoned in and only done because we need some sort of filler villian before we fight narlythotep and IS already blew its load with the masked circle/rumor ressurected nazis
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>>558161345
I hate sharing this website with zoomoids
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The new Xbox CEO is a retarded jeet. We need to convince her to greenlight NINE-2.
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>>558166124
He sounds fun.
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>>558166262
>He
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>>558166398
She? She sounds fun.
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>>558166706
Bro she was head of the AI division at Microshart and her posts look like they're written by AI. You retarded? You think this nepo hire poojeeta has played a video game in her life? If so I got a special life stone to sell you for 10000 macca.
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>>558167206
It's a perfect pick. Retarded CEOs show the people under her that are more qualified what their labor is reduced to and always was. Spencer was only a sociable face with more decorum. Now the curtain is drawn. Only accelerationism can make people wake up to reality. Nothing else will.
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>>558165859
It's past your bedtime unc
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>>558165859
I dislike people that think others have to enjoy their old games with obsolete designs
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>>558168250
My bedtime is when my back starts hurting
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>>558167206
>and her posts look like they're written by AI
Based on >>558166124 they really do.
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