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Crime Edition
>Previous
>>557609906

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/


>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
Jan 22 Redacted Regiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvwvsJRSKk
Feb 03 Siege Breakers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9E9-iGwK_4
Feb 03 Galactic Offensive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ZVYxDgbM0
Feb 04 A Bastion of Freedom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ZhrAP7k6Y
Feb 10 Machinery of Oppression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5JS68ny14

>LATEST PATCHES
Feb 03 1.006.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/506226349467240138
Feb 10 1.006.003 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541129880857741482
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>>557651220
Siege Breakers is so much better it's not even funny, there is no joke.
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>>557651563
but muh mini gun, muh hot dog
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>>557651220
Python Commandos: Pretty good AR, one of the strongest Guard Dogs in the game, decent melee support weapon (needs Peak Physique though), and a very fun support weapon that filters people that shit-talk it.

Siege Breakers: Pretty busted shotgun, meme fun melee support weapon, stupidly strong disposable support weapon that's the de-facto blunt force solution on Cyberstan right now, a decent but very niche grenade, and a mediocre and disappointing support weapon.

Both are fun, but Siege Breakers is probably the more "mandatory" warbond if you're going to fight on Cyberstan simply because the Leveller allows you to remove Vox Engines with minimal hassle.
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>>557651661
minigun is actual fucking dogshit
leveller + trident already mog the fire dog
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>>557651774
the one where you reload but the game doesnt register it and leaves the gun in the "one round chambered" state. the you shoot after the animation and wala, the gun is fully empty and you get curbstomped
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>AI slop OP
/hdg/ has become that bad huh?
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>>557651956
AIslop has taken over everything because most of humanity is dangerously low IQ. All we can hope for is the bubble bursting before our climate does.
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>>557651862
Minigun is serviceable of you know how to aim and bring PP
>No PP = TRASH
Take notes, troons.
Also
>leveller + trident already mog the fire dog
Why not both? Add EAT for full basedness
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>>557651340
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>>557652098
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>>557651956
If a glorified search engine can do your job, you're not needed my friend. I'm sorry to bring you the bad news.
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>>557652145
>Minigun is serviceable of you know how to aim and bring PP
MMG/HMG + supply pack mog
>Why not both?
Because Solo Silo exists, Warp Pack exists, Supply Pack exists,
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>>557652379
C4 performs better than everything listed
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Why can't these dumbasses into version control? This shit has been figured out for decades.
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>>557651956
slop in slop thread for slop game, what did u expect?
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why does the SSSD thing filters retards so goddamn much
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Variable can take out Vox with 4 maxed out shots, kinda wish the Ergonomics wasn't garbage and I'm not gonna use the Peak Physique armor to fix that
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>>557652517
funny how vox engines turned c4's reputation around
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>>557652517
It sure does, another reason to not take the fucking fire dog to Cyberstan. If you care about actual weaponry take Siege Breakers. If you want bug killers take Python.
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>>557652561
Swiggers have the coding abilities of a jeet and the smug pettiness of a french lady
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Was lurking on other sites and I know this is a hot take/controversial take but I honestly do think that Arrowhead (implying) would better off having a means for people to more easily access information from the Dispatches/Effects, let alone crucial information that I think you only ever see during loading screen tips.
Anything would be better than what they have in-game right now to get through to players what they need and or how to take planets/cities hell the entire notion that taking major cities helps liberate planets more easily wasn't known to me until I saw it in a loading screen tip

Hell, in gacha games they give you currency for just doing/watching tutorials and that overall has a better impact in the player base than fucking nothing.
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>>557652561
>>557652780
this, you're not going to find a more entitled bunch of incompetents than Swedes
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>shredder tank PO
>remember last time
>decide not to drop on Cyberstani soil because that planet is so full of bugs it qualifies as D11 Terminids
>do a solo D7
>manage to do it without dying once
that was fun as shit.
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>>557652926
Didn't read anything, but you were the anon that was asking about ways to lessen the amount of clicking earlier (days ago), yes?

>One to make any gun auto-fire, especially Censor due to my arthritis
Friend, you can make a macro for that.
Having played a lot of warframe and (almost) blowing up my fingers I have used many a macro to simulate a lot of button presses.

Simply download AutoHotkey, which is the program that runs scripts of relative simplicity and then you just run your script.

I have a script for instance that when I hold down LMB it simulates rapidly clicking LMB instead.
Turning semi-auto weapons into full-auto weapons.

Now there are potential for outright cheating using macro-scripts. So some games don't like it. Helldivers 2 doesn't seem to mind.
And some faggots do get their panties in a twist if you say you're using macros. In my opinion. Semi-auto in games is the dumbest fucking creation. So macros are a necessity.

If you want. I'll upload my simple script for (you).
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>>557652314
nigger
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>>557652926
If people are informed about how the war works, it gets harder to rig it.
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>>557653248
The fact everyone stopped diving Aurora Bay because their MOnkey chips got reprogrammed pisses me the fuck off
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>>557653243
Niggers tongue my anus, my talentless fren
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>>557653503
my autism has more talent than a bunch of if conditions will ever have
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>>557652926
People have been saying that since the game came out and three years later the only place to get lore and galactic war updates is trannycord ruled by their fascist furfag mods that ban you for using a throwing up face emoji
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>>557653503
>projecting your lack of artistic or creative talent unto others
fuck off slopper, not everyone who dislikes ram prices costing $5000 for baby gronk memes is some tranny "artist" begging for comms
this shit is cryptokikery all over again, not everyone who ignored the BTC casino was a terminal poorfag
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>>557653589
Hard to argue with that, but it won't make you a good goy
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>>557653658
it's all part of the joke... right?
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>>557652145
>Minigun is serviceable of you know how to aim and bring PP
it's dogshit
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>>557653782
Meds, now
(Not estrogen)
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>>557653189
Holy crap, thank you for responding and yes that's me!
I'll give these a try (I'm a normie/casual) so it might take me awhile to understand these things
Thanks again!
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>>557653782
thank fuck i manager to build my ryzen 7 7700 with a 9060 XT 16GB and 32GB of RAM for 1k right before this whole mess started
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>>557653939
I accept your concession, you dumb fuck.
>>557654026
Good on you, that should last you a few years.
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>>557653658
>open up the helldivers general channel to talk about some weapons and the balance
>everyone's circlejerking and cheering over some "egg that has been cracked" and talking about gender politics
>start talking about the game and ask the people to stay on topic
>permanently banned for hate speech within 5 minutes
interesting
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>>557654127
>I won by declaring I did
Mental health issues are important too, anon. Just like when your tummy aches you go see a doctor, it's important to take care of your mental issues too.
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fug >>557648348
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At least have the decency to do that outside my FoV...
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>>557654512
2000s bros, are we back?
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>>557654341
>>I won by declaring I did
This but unironically. Sorry your argument is so weak it got obliterated by my very aura, but you should try not being a big fat fucking bitch next time.
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god dominator SUCKS
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>>557654723
Skill issue.
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>>557654723
They should give it it's explosive rounds back. It wouldn't even be that strong nowadays.
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Why did my head asplode??? This happened once before today and it was also after shooting the Quasaar. I was hosting and wearing BP-20 cop armor both times.
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>>557654723
I used it maybe once and found it underwhelming, I don't know why people suck it off so much, it's just a slightly better Slugger.
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>>557654853
>Why did my head asplode???
Because you didn't lower the difficulty
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>>557654853
Sentry shot you.
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>>557654853
shrapnel from a lure mine
or nerve gas
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>>557654579
>>557654512
clearly the game needs more fog
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>>557654792
Shit was listed as explosive but never had actual explosive rounds, anon. More swigger niggery.
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>>557654853
Termanid nerve gas
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244287897233/76561198398394630
D7 Cyberstan
1/4
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>>557655143
Yeah it was the sentry.
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we can still finish the mo right bros
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>>557654853
you clearly failed to deflect the attacks
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>>557655013
5G waves off the Quasar.
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>>557652517
what if one of your teammates is literally retarded and keeps aggroing all the voxniggers you mark
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>>557654853
you lacked requisite skill
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>>557655308
full
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>>557653189
NTA but do you mind posting the clicker script ? I got a bad case of carpal tunnel and it would make games (pural) much more enjoyable
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Sentries can be placed on corners of cranes on Cyberstan.
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olla dis moolah... an' notin' tah spend it on...
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>>557652145
The anti-minigun crowd are just idiots. Its emotional posting, not logical.
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>>557652517
>>557652760
Whats the way to kill vox with C4? Just throw 3 on them anywhere?
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>>557655997
Lower torso so it splashes to as many bodyparts as possible.
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>>557653964
>>557655595
If you manage to set up autohotkey (should be fairly straightforward) you'll have an additional context-menu option - so you just right click on your desktop or whatever and create an autohotkey script.
Fill it with this simple text:

~lbutton::
if getkeystate("capslock","T")
{
while getkeystate("lbutton","P")
{
click down
sleep 10
click up
}
}
return

What this does is whenever "Capslock" is Toggled (active) and you're holding down LMB the script will simulate that you're actually spam-clicking LMB. Effectively making anything full-auto.

There might be some issues with this since I use(d) an old autohotkey program, so it might tell you it's shit. If that's the case I can just upload the script-file itself and autohotkey should be able to convert it - don't know the details of the whys and hows, but it has worked for friends before.
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>>557656146
Cool thanks
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When you're branded a traitor, your super destroyer will shoot 380mm HE directly onto your head endlessly. This proves that the Super Destroyer has the capability to easily and endlessly track and snipe small moving targets. The only reason we have no stratagems that take advantage of this accuracy is because Super Earth (Swiggers) won't let us.
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>90% of Leaners play like this
How does this make you feel?
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>>557656309
a helldiver is a greater threat than any enemy weve encountered so far
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>>557656402
Not me. I'm a gooner but I'm not a cheap monkey gooner.
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>>557656402
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>>557654853
dying from random shit seems to happen way more on cyberstan
maybe vox missile or something that fail to render in?
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>>557656402
I play like this but with the male voice
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>>557656402
>Projecting his coomerslop porn addiction
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>>557656171
It just prompted me to install ahk v1.someshit since i had v2 installed but it does in fact work, just tried it on OW with Ashe for a sec, thank you very much anon, this is great you're the goat
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>>557656538
its always the supply pack faggots, uh
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>>557656885
Don't forget the samefagging. They really are pathetic.
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>>557653964
if you want a lazy version try and see if binding shoot to scroll wheel works lol
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gg tankers.
sorry about running you over with your own tank lmao.
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>>557656309
Wiping out the rogue asset to replace with another expendable clone is more important than actually completing the mission.
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>>557656953
Glad I am to hear it.
Finger-health is a serious topic for gamers and far too many games do not respect it.
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>>557656402
>How does that make you feel?
Rock-Solid
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>close game
>freezes
>have to killed with task manager
glad to know somethings still stay the same
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>hmm maybe I should play some cyberstan
>play one operation with /hdg/
>so stressed out that I'm glad its over
I don't even wanna imagine playing this shit with pubbies
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>more Joel railroading
You know, I wonder if this means that Solidaritet at 2% could possibly be liberated as fast as a Settlement.
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>>557657627
Randoms are better than /hdg/ so its much easier
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>>557657713
>me when I lie
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>I had to turn off crossplay
Console wars are back on
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>>557656953
You can also do simple expansions of the script like:

~lbutton::
~E::
if getkeystate("capslock","T")
{
while getkeystate("lbutton","P")
{
click down
sleep 10
click up
}
while getkeystate("E","P")
{
send e
sleep 10

}
}
return

In this meme the full-auto LMB is still in effect, but now when holding down E it will also simulate spam-clicking E. Useful for survival crafting games where you have to pick a lot of shit up off the ground. Haven't tested it in HD2, but I imagine it'd work just fine for picking up samples.
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>>557657086
>https://litter.catbox.moe/mqripnb9wd3dwotr.mp4
gg

>>557657713
nice ragebait, /hdg/ games are actually enjoyable, unlike tardwrangling >100 lvl D10 tele-pubbies
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>>557657676
Its a benefit for us. What are you upset about?
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>>557657676
>Planet wide defense ratings are temporarily compromised
Does this mean the vox won't take 6 EATS to kill? or at least the game won't spawn 4 of them at the same time and instantly spawn more when you kill one?
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>>557656402
>>557657387
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I'm tired of le random (forced) funny death clip generator meme. Perfectly encapsulates this entire MO
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244290166279/76561197995866779
cyberstanians begone, this is a helldiver street
on d10 and all are welcome
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>>557657713
sorry but no, public shitters are just too afraid to fight voxes, so they tend to stack up and it becomes impossible to play, they always bring 380mm for some god forsaken reason instead of expendables like EAT/silo/Levelers
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The automatic grenade launcher is good
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>>557657676
this raises an interesting question: why does Super Earth, with its superior manufacturing capabilities, not simply mass produce automatons to flood the market and destroy the bot economy?
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>>557658039
full
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>>557657627
>host /hdg/ lobby
>anons sticks together
>actually works as a team
>don't run around as a headless chicken
>everything dies in a fraction of a second
honestly you just have to get lucky who you are paired with game can be fun if you actually play as a co-op shooter
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>>557658112
both grenade launchers are auto, retard
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>>557658112
50 more damage so it can at least 1 shot fucking hunters thanks
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>>557657959
damn. nice tune.
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>>557656402
i'm part of the ten percent who don't.
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>>557657980
All it means is reduced decay rates, which in turn means we can actually make progress on Megafactories.
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>>557658285
Been a while since you've heard it last?
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I really want this MO to fail because of Arrowhead and their GM bullshit.
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>>557658302
feelin' gassy
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>>557657713
trvthnuke
pubs are capable of pressing E on terminals and sssd hatches at least
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>>557658112
BFGL copers are right up there in desperation with memegun and epoch copers
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>>557658357
oh it will, and the playerbase will blame Joel for changing the conditions.
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>>557658285
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHv7hHfeNsk

I hate the default HD2 OST, and this is perfect for racially cleansing the Stan of Cyber
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>>557657086
https://files.catbox.moe/ynftcg.mp4
ggs bros
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>>557657627
I like to RP that it's like a Cyber Mogadishu from Black Hawk Down and I'm the the Delta Force operator played by Eric Bana going into to help salvage the clusterfuck mission. I like to think I've saved a few lives from the MO. Just dodge their nades and fire, and you'll be fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrNvhc5GogQ
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>>557656309
The traitor barrage used to be a simple 380mm barrage too
Then peoples found out you could outrun the barrage with the car to the physical edge of the map
Swiggers being swiggers they changed that because you're not allowed to have any fun unless it grief you or somebody else
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>>557657910
I appreciate it but I've gotten soft locked from picking up samples if I spam E too quickly before (notably at the peener rock) so I'd advise being careful with that one, would be great in some other games though
thankfully only my right hand is uber fucked at least, left works fine (i actually rebound aiming to C because of this) ((take care of your hands kids))
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>>557657676
Would be fun if this blockade material shortage progresses to some or all automatons on Cyberstan having one less armor value. Kind of like a permanent acid rain.
Would be fun, J**l.
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>>557658412
>>557658302
Maybe the bots were right, maybe we do deserve to be killed...
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>>557657676
>wahhhh orbital blockade actually did something nice wahhhh
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>>557658527
>K1 getting out of the driver seat to pop 3 smallbots and get smoked by a Vox
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>>557657781
>>557657959
>>557658080
Yeah no. You guys are unironically worse. Randoms at D10 has a 100% success rate, you're more like D8 with a 90% success rate. Plus you take way fucking longer because you refuse to play objectives.
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>>557658026
VOXXED
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>>557658730
It's literally not how Orbital Blockade works though. It's supposed to stop ships from leaving the planet the DSS is orbiting, not shoot down ships trying to land on the planet. That's what Eagle Storm is for.
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>>557655997
3 on lower torso on 2 if you shoot out a vent
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>Randoms at D10 has a 100% success rate
Be more subtle next time.
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>>557656402
I'm one of those 50% and it's nice to have something to look at since swiggers won't give me first-person mode
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>>557658867
I hope AH never changes this, it's so goddamned funny.
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>>557658930
They do. What are you trying to gain by pretending otherwise?
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>>557658930
HH brother.
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this is painful
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What if the real lobby doko was the anons we made friends with along the way
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244291425595/76561198040375859
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>>557659198
Give me an invite right now.
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>>557659198
HD1 were extermination maps were so fucking small. I always hated them.
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>>557657676
Megafactory resistances have dropped by half in some places, such as Star Keld. We have never been so back.
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>>557658026
>>557658867
>vox spawns
>ground dosen't display rocket impact zone
>die
so fucking tired of this shit AH had since the illuminate Stingray to fix this shit
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>>557659248
2/4
Requisite lust-provoking image attached
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>>557658665
I got too excited reading the dispatch and thought that's what it was
It's an interesting mechanic, wish they used it more outside of one dogshit planet biome
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I am once again asking for an ap4 dominator
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>>557659480
even with that, it wont even be at 25% liberated before the MO fails and the invasion ends.
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>>557658897
And why does it matter?
Of course it's not "Exactly" how it works, they're trying to do something positive for US that normally wouldn't happen on other planets because this is a special event
just play the game anon, enjoy the little things
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>>557659742
So the AMR but with gyrojet rounds?
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>>557659248
FVLL
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>>557659248
FULL!
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>>557659742
GOO GOO GA GA
BUFF ME SWIGGERMAN
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>>557659864
yeah
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>>557659271
So nothing changed
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Do you guys think they will add some kind of AP5 primary at some point?
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>>557659198
>Solo
Lol. Lmao. Rofl.
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>>557660253
Yes
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>>557659958
explain why the eruptor gets it then
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>>557660160
Nah, those fucking deathtraps were smaller than an HD2 extraction zone.
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>>557659742
Some kind of rebar gun could fill this niche
>slower slugger with less ammo and heavy pen, could give it shit ergos and fire rate, even accuracy/falloff too but it at least would open up some more options for secondaries/support weapons
I don't want it to be great, or even good but I'm getting EAT/RR/QC/Epoch fatigue
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>>557660543
HALF LIFE WARBOND
GIVE ME THE SLOPP I WANT THE SLOPPP!!!!
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I did 2 d7 operations tonight
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>>557660160
No, they were worse.
It wasn't uncommon that Illum exterminations ended 5 minutes in because 20 council members started teleporting in and doing radial mindrape wave attacks that'd encompass the entire field and spamming instakill homing orbs. D15 Bug exterminations were slightly easier if only because Impalers don't really get spammed, instead you have to deal with 60 gorillion Brood Commanders which had more health than a charger and no weakpoints and came at you in waves bigger than warriors ever could in HD2.
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>>557659262
>>557660276
ended up pubbing it, the tox-13 is SO much better than the sterilizer in hd2
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>>557661050
based
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>>557658302
>>557658412
THIS OP NEEDS A HERO
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>>557659742
Dominator with kraken rounds, instead they're giving us fucking gas rounds.
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>Personal daily objective
>Destroy 3 shredder tanks
>Haven't seen a single shredder since the event started
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>>557661336
Go to a different planet.
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>>557658127
>Implying the bots give a shit on whether you try to do a capitalism while they laugh their ass off in SC-less luxury-gay-space-communism.
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>medals full
>semples full
>requisition slips full
more content to spend materials please
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>>557661636
man I am tired of credits farming, but is the only place you can use the medals
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>>557661636
more warbonds
donate your samples
mod your guns
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>>557656402
I wish it was halo reach levels but female armor that isn't hypersexualized is hot in it's own way
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>>557661774
>more warbonds
already have them all thanks to based china
>donate your samples
ship upgrades just after cyberstan cant waste them now
>mod your guns
all guns already max level
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>>557661636
i would suck swedish cock and commit attestupa if they let us buy SC with req
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>>557661926
i need to find a chine chud, even setting my vpn over there i get zero cheaters, where the hell are they..
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>>557657959
>kira yoshikage.mp4
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>>557661935
it would need to be at some incredible shitty rate like 10k for 10 SC, but with how fast we get req, I guess it can work out.

Also I am the only one that would like to see all the vehicles color schemes available for weapons too?
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>>557661926
Open a new steam account, family share the game, and restart from the bottom.
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>>557661636
You can always blow a few loads of samples and reqs in the Dick Sucking Station.
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>>557661636
medal sink:
super destroyer fish tank - 3500 medals
random fish - 1500 medals
fish tank holds up to 5 fish. fish can be discarded to roll for a different fish
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>>557658686
Face the wall, botnigger *BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
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>>557657713
WRONG, we're a 10% better pub
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>>557661636
I've been waiting for 2 years
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>>557657713
it's just the returning players really, when you get a bunch of veterans in your lobby everything goes well
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>>557658127
because they're fucking retared and built killbots to do their mining ops
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>>557662512
How many are left? I don't recognize anyone anymore, it's all newfag names now
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>>557662117
>/hdg/ will spend a billion medals on pet fishes before they contribute a single Requisition slip to the DSS.
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>>557662968
yes
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>>557662968
fuck the DSS
seriously, fuck the DSS
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D10 Bots
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244294702682/76561198027168760
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>>557662968
uh huh
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>>557662968
and?
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>>557662991
>maybe 10 or 20
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>>557663195
Is it open lobby?
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>>557663195
3/4
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>>557657567
I just kill it with Steam's close button.
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>>557662991
>>557663392
around 15 sounds about right
unfortunately 150 lvl doesn't mean a lot of nowadays
even the bad players of /hdg/ are 150 by now
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>>557663609
>>557663609
Yup. Try rejoining.
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Needs to be nerfed list:
Eruptor
Purifier
Xbow
Trident
Ultimatum
Talon
Thermites
Dynamite
Gas Grenades
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>>557663723
this. if they're sub 1k hours they're trash
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>>557663195
full
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D10 CYBERSTAN

1/4

SPILL OIL
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if you are not on the list™ i simply refuse to play with you simple as
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>>557663824
>if I repost it, maybe people will agree with me this time!
>>557664107
>needing a list to play with anons
just kick the people who you don't like, retard
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>>557662968
yes
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Crazy if they made an armor that stopped ragdolling, it would be s tier.
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>>557664078
FVLL

WE DIVE
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>>557658039
thanks for the games anons!
sorry to blue for hopping straight into extract at the end. will have to go through clips for the first time in a while and make some new ones tonight, driving was fun
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>>557664161
>dind't make into the based list
ok sour grapes piss off
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>>557658867
I wish the cyborg was actually capable of being interacted with and not just a prop that looks around for a second before freezing up. Why the fuck can't I blow that fucker's head off?
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>33% left with less than 20 hours remaining
where were you when the helldivers failed to take cyberstan?
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>>557664227
>put on rock solid
>it doesn't actually stop me from being ragdolled
>put on medium fortified
>it doesn't help me from being oneshot AND it's slower than any other medium armor
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bring back the hulk surge
jet and incels fucking suck i'm gonna bug dive
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>>557664561
I'd rather NOT be on your watchlist tbqhwyfamallamajamma
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>>557664710
>foolishly bring my hammer to jeets
>get killed by their exploding jetpacks
this fucking blows
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>>557664842
you're on it regardless
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>>557664643
>Enforcer
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>>557663902
>>557664161
I'll keep posting it until someone makes a coherent argument as to why the ultimatum or thermite are even remotely balanced
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>>557664954
enforcer has to be a fucking scam, a prank by swiggers for thinking you should take anything but heavy armor for bots
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>>557665115
cute 70 hours diver post
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>>557664948
Oh, so I'm on your list then? Guess I win.
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>>557665008
>ultimatum or thermite are even remotely balanced
They account for all of the shortcomings people like (you) have.
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>>557665273
they're two separate lists
and they both go to a different school
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>>557665378
this
>>557665394
ok crackhead, see you next lobby
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>>557659742
>AP4 dominator
This is what the backpack grenade launcher should have been. The model already looks like a heavy bolter. Why not lean into that instead of creating a nerf grenade launcher.
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>>557663824
Truke except trident and dynamite
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>>557664871
to be fair that one is on you
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The jet packs on the jeets exploding is by far the only real danger they have.
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>>557665008
>ultimatum
two shots, standoff range literally doesn't exist without exploiting swigger physics by diving or draw-shotting because swiggers are niggers and don't care how fast real spigot mortar projectiles can go, potentially greatly multiplies the danger of using splash primaries by denying you a point blank oh-shit button, substantial risk of collateral or self-obliteration compared to proper heavy AT due to unshaped charge

>thermite
gives you strong close range heavy elimination with the caveat that it takes time to work and denies you the quite strong status based crowd control grenades that can discombobulate alert spawns and chaffwipe in choke points, fuck-off capacity smoke grenades, various other meme nades with their own utilities

you will ignore that this post was ever made because you are a nigger
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>>557666631
>two shots, standoff range literally doesn't exist without exploiting swigger physics by diving or draw-shotting because swiggers are niggers and don't care how fast real spigot mortar projectiles can go, potentially greatly multiplies the danger of using splash primaries by denying you a point blank oh-shit button, substantial risk of collateral or self-obliteration compared to proper heavy AT due to unshaped charge
This is a good argument, but I think having a heavy deleter in your secondary slot is so many magnitudes more effective than every other weapon.

>gives you strong close range heavy elimination with the caveat that it takes time to work and denies you the quite strong status based crowd control grenades that can discombobulate alert spawns and chaffwipe in choke points, fuck-off capacity smoke grenades, various other meme nades with their own utilities
Ok that's a pretty good argument. Maybe the problem is heavy spam, not the thermite.
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Needs to be buffed list
Epoch
Sterilizer
Minigun
BFGL
Arc thrower
Libpen
Blitzer
Laser sentry
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>>557666890
added to the list
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Needs to be RAPED list
>>557667148
>>557667148
>>557667148
>>557667148
>>557667148
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>>557666631
He literally cant think of taking anything else.
>>557667119
>but I think having a heavy deleter in your secondary slot is so many magnitudes more effective than every other weapon.
This is just wrong, I don't even use Ultimatum and I do just fine. Why the fuck do you hate the Talon anyway?
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>>557667148
All I'm saying to make the Epoch good, just give it a mobile reload like the AMR.
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>>557667183
pretty sure i already am, years ago
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>>557667148
Don't forget Pineapple, HE and impact HE
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>>557667281
Actually I love the Talon, but it's so good it makes every other pistol obsolete. The burst potential, no damage falloff, silenced, infinite ammo. It's S+ tier in a field of C tiers.
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>>557667148
doing anything to the sterilizer would be a buff, removing it from the game would make it a better stratagem
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>>557667719
being suppressed is the only thing that would make you think that, senator has better stats, warrant has homing bullets that makes most chaff at medium ranges no-brainer engagements, and grenade pistol and stim pistol provide unique utility you aren't going to get with talon. Ultimatum was already nerfed and really has enough downsides to not even be worth taking imo because FUCK that shell drop
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>>557667301
this, Epoch is a on a good spot, strong and even anti tank capabilities but also versatil with some crowd clearing and doesnt require backpack. Honestly quite versatile weapon.
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>>557667958
bro did not just imply the senator is better than the talon
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lobby dokko?
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>>557667958
>because FUCK that shell drop
soo many divers death...
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>>557667183
no one cares listnigger
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>>557668105
It literally is. Rounds/speedloader reload is not enough of a downside to make it strictly worse than Talon.
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>>557667958
based newfriend
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>>557667183
nerflist?
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>Vox dropped on top of me
>Teammate with leveller nearby
It's over
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>>557668314
Thinking Ultimatium is the only secondary you should take is fucking preddit faggotry, kill yourself. By the way the Loyalist is also good
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>>557668186
I'm sorry anon but you are objectively wrong
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>>557668508
based newfriend
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>>557668186
The senator's only niche over the talon is killing Hulks, Alpha Commanders, and Gunships. Against everything else the Talon is more useful.
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>>557665008
Your definition of coherent is clearly not shared by the rest of the Managed Democracy. Reporting you to the nearest Democracy Officer.
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>>557667148
>add one more shot to its mag size so it can kill 2 heavies before reloading
>speed up its charge times by 1 second (now takes 1 second to fire a regular shot and 2 seconds for overcharged)
bam epoch is fixed
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>>557668604
I accept your concession.
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>>557667301
that and removing the spread, it's already hardcapped at 150m anyway. Having low damage, a charge up and random spread is just silly.
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>>557665008
i don't personally use them but i feel thermites are hampered significantly by the fuse time. Not enough people talk about how long the damn thing takes to pop. And in the meantime the rando on your squad has destroyed the hulk/fab/factory strider. It has a good niche where you throw all three on something like a BT or a factory strider but half the time i think people are misusing it like fucking retards. As to the ultimatum (again i never use the thing) in theory it's balanced by the short range and painfully limited ammo. But maps are flush with ammo and the supply pack exists so even though it's a bitch of an ammo hog that can be circumvented relatively painlessly. I'd say the bigger issue is how prevalent Heavy AP is in the meta to where people feel they need to take these options in every mission (they don't but a youtuber told them to)
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no, I did not try the AT mines against the vox, but they seem kinda shit desu, spread too far away

gg
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>>557669083
>everyone dead at evac as pelican arrives
>he spergs out for 30 seconds before the game realizes everyone is dead and starts showing the mission stats
sasuga sweden
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>Python has an S tier primary (in the super store)
>RRegiment has an S tier primary
>Siege Breakers has an S tier primary

Ok, they're going to keep up the streak with the WW1 warbond and make the new trench gun S tier too, right? We desperately need more good shotguns.
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>>557669279
it's gonna fire heavy pen slugs with the same drag as slugger
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>>557669279
they are not going to make it better than the halo shotty
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>>557669036
So the real answer to the ultimatum problem is nerfing the supply pack... I see
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>>557669083
I started wondering because I think I saw a glowy weakpoint on the underside of their chassis, might test it out later. GG Panzerboys
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>>557669083
this motherfucking pelican pilot didn't pancake the voxes and instead danced over them while I got turned into a stain
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>>557669279
it's just gonna be ODST shotty but with medium pen but semi-auto (no slamfire), mark me words
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>>557669502
>I think I saw a glowy weakpoint on the underside of their chassis
it's a vent you fucking retard
you shoot three of them and the grenade hole pops out
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alright i have 20k SC already, how do i cheat medals?
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>>557669449
i don't see how you could even do it. Maybe make it two packs? So you have to choose between ammo and nades or stim pack. But then people would complain the stim resupply pack is pointless because you can just pick the stim pistol
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i've heard rumors of it being a slam fire shot gun if it's not light pen and low damage it will be good
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>>557669279
>7 rounds + 1 in the chamber
>heavy pen
>00 buck (5 pllets per shot)
>50 in reserve
>will facefuck every medium unit in the game and nothing else besides the DB will even come close
WW1 reports of Trenchbrooms were fucking brootal so I hope they fulfill mine fantasy.
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>>557669597
because of slop like this ram now costs 2000 bucks
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>>557669669
anon this level of fantasy is unhealthy but i fucking love it
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>>557669715
PC gaming always gatekept poorfags, this is just natural progression.
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>>557669645
>>557669669
joel will make it Constitution tier and the only fun you'll have is basically having a pumpaction that empties out in less than 3s
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>>557667719
Talon doesn't obsolete Verdict at all. Talon relies on you taking your time and making the most out of every single shot to not overheat the damn thing. If you do overheat it, you have max 18-24 med pen shots til SOL. Time pressure between shots can lead to the difference between life and death given suppression mechanics vs. bots. Verdict has 10 shots at AP3 per mag. Up to 80 shots, with a lightning fast mag swap, and capable of one tapping all the same things a Talon will. The supressed you get from laser weapons is the only thing you might have an argument on, and to be honest, I don't really give a shit. It's a laser, it should be relatively quiet. Theoretically infinite ammo doesn't obviate in practice "Oh fuck, ohshit, please just die!" situations that like it or not, are frequent enough that every now and again I say fuck it and don't take the banana in favor of space deagle.
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>>557669570
>no slamfire
those swedes better not
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Haven't played in ages, but wanna fuck up some Clankers on Cyberstan.

What are good loadouts for it?
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>>557669986
they're all locked behind p2w battlepasses
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>>557669986
any AT and the supply backpack the new leveller is good if you got the newest warbond other wise these two will do the trick you can bring anything else really
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>>557669986
crossbow or purifier
ultimatum or talon
dynamite or thermites

Leveler
Railgun or AMR
Supply backpack
Flex slot (but Silo or EAT are great)

Armor that stops chest bleeding and some explosive resistance
Good luck unlocking all of those tho kek
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>>557669586
to be fair the vents transfer all the damage they take to the mainbody so they're sort of a weakpoint.
but they're also 100% explosive immune, so there's probably no point in shooting vents with the tank gun
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>>557669927
>Constitution tier
>high damage and pen in exchange for literally everything else
>rapetrain shotgun
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dokko lobby?
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>>557669986
>Eruptor, will rape chaff groups and cyborgs on direct hits, hope u got good aim
>Senator/Talon, pick ur pison when ur eruptor is empty
>Nades that arent throwing knifes, pref the ones that dont kill you instantly such as gas for vox vents
>Tank, treat it as a spearhead against heavy lines AND as your personal emplacement you can use from a distance to kill the voxes thats bombing your 3 teammates on the obj
>Jetpack, old reliable
>Laser Cannon, extremely flexible
>OPS/Strafing run, old reliables, esp when you have voxes in your face
>Resistant armors
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>>557669986
On D10 it seems a supply pack is necessary, plus any AT like the other guy said. Eagles are limited by AA emplacements, so Orbitals are more used. Gatling is kind of a meta one rn. After that it's up to you. For the primary, Coyote is still pretty good.
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>>557669986
if you don't wanna run stuff from paypig/chinkhack warbonds:

>Orbital Gatling
>120 Orbital Barrage
>EAT (got one for free now)
>Autocannon
>Commando
>Autocannon/Rocket/MG Sentry

for primary pick something with stagger, to get the troonborgs off of you, or something that kills them fast enough, and with med. pen (borg commanders are armored)

secondary pick your poison, I'd recommend the Senator if you ain't got Ultimatum

whatever grenade, smoke/frag/thermite/ incendiary are okay
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>>557669986
purifier / plasma punisher + ultimatum
thermites / dynamite
epoch / leveler / silo / orbital laser / barrages
mobility or shield backpack
shield emplacement

dont bother with turrets
i dont like eruptor here cause you get swarmed by cyborgs too often
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was Malevelon Creek really that bad compared too Cyberstan?
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>>557669279
Do we have any idea what the new warbond looks like or what it is?
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>>557670929
I'd say 'stan is worse than creek, creek was rough because people were inexperienced at the game
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>>557670929
Creek was just your average (pre-nerf) Bot planet. Only reason it caught on was because it looked cool.
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>>557670929
creek was bad due to us having poor equipment, hella fog, and pre-nerf robots.
cyberstan is bad due to holy fucking hell is that another TEN WAR-STRIDERRS ACKKK
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>>557670929
At the time of the Creek HD2 didn't have a large pop so total pop to deaths was insane.
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>>557671192
It's not the War Striders, it's the Vox Engines.
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>>557670993
there's a pretty dope ww1 themed armor set and a trench gun, but I have no idea what the rest of the shit is
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>>557671292
>he doesn't know about the shield gen meta
vox engines are manageable with the correct armor and gatling barrages along with actively staying near cover
>ragdolls you 100 times with infinite grenades and can still oneshot you like a vox
the strider spam is far worse, both mechanically and fun wise...Voxes are a little overtuned tho.
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>>557670929
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NqoolR6UxXU
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>>557670929
It's hard to quantify. It's like comparing the Vietnam War to Stalingrad. Malevelon Creek went on for a long time. It was the first time I encountered mortars. It was dark. The bots were tougher and stratagems were more limited back then. The game had just come out, things weren't really figured out yet.
To be it was the de_dust2 of Helldivers 2. "Creekers" would only queue for that planet because it was fun and hard. Joel cut the amount of stratagems and made timers longer on them to make it harder later on. I remember bugdivers seething because Creekers refused to help out on MO's.
All the reddit attempts to seethe about it still or diminish are weird to me. Was it harder than Cyberstan? Perhaps at times it was.
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>>557670929
Cyberstan is still only the Second worst Kill to Death ratio at 23-1 in comparison to Malevelon being 15-1 for deaths


Difference comes from some mix of balance being different. Pre-60 day patch stuff and also just the fact that players were not as good at the game by that time.


Cyberstan ‘is’ the harder gameplay but we’ve also gotten collectively way better in comparison to blindly walking into each other’s eagles and getting crushed by resuply/gunned by standing in front of turrets.
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will the Halt disappoint me?
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for me it was popli ix
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>>557670929
Bots were a different faction back then. Modern bots can basically only one shot you with a vox missile or an Annihilater cannon tank/tower. Bots back then could one shot heavy armor with a trooper/dev rocket. Numbers wise its probably even less of a competition, because everyone was new back then and the game was still seeing 200k + concurrent users.
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>>557671809
Yes.
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>>557671809
It was a bug gun (specifically preds) when the stun actually worked, not really an anything gun now.
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>>557665008
What is this "balanced" you're taking about? From what I can see you just want everything to be trash so everything is boring rundivers.
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How do I kill these fuckers? Literally just shows up and rapes my dudes with retarded stats
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>>557672427
RR to the eye
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>>557671569
anyone playing at that time got the cape lol
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>>557672427
leveller
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>>557671809
yeah, about as much as the one-two
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>>557672427
lower.
the.
difficulty.
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>>557672427
Max charge railgun shot to the base of the wings is a oneshot.
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>>557671870
For me it's (was) Angel's Venture.
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>>557672427
we love you /domg/
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>>557672427
Orbital laser with a side of leveler.
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>>557672427
2 c4
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>>557671886
>>557672045
>>557672556
Fuck. I've run out of good things to unlock and have nothing to look forward to now.
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>>557665008
Neither of those are even that good
>panic button delete shit gun that robs you of a secondary but is also really easy to whiff
>grenade that either slowly slowly slowly kills hulks (which sucks when under big pressure, in the pre-factory strider days most of us have made the mistake of thinking thermites were sufficient AT to bring to bots) or has the ability to destroy smallfabs from any angle like every AT support weapon in the game
talon and gas nade are way stronger desu
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>takes 5 BFGL rounds to kill basic bitch devastator
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>Drop D10 cyberstan with pugs
>host tries to drop us someplace "safe"
>drops into patrol underneath stratagem jammer and detector tower
>Everything is constantly fucked up
>barely have time to kill any heavies amidst the cyborg ninjas roundhouse kicking your teeth in
>every time that you clear an approach, a different front leaks and collapses
>team hemorrhages reinforcements
>you can feel the seething through the screen whenever they immediately die again because someone hit their "reinforce macro" to instantly reinforce them in the middle of bumfuck nowhere.
>alternatively they're seething when they spam the REMINDER button despite the fact that the team is disarming a stratagem jammer
>barely complete the objectives
>probably get overrun at extraction
vs
>Drop D10 cyberstan with racist /hdg/ antisemites
>Drop directly on an objective. Better the devil you know
>nobody communicates beyond the occasional map ping or a "thank you" emote
>everyone is scattered and basically doing their own thing while vaguely moving towards the same objectives, but it's the good kind of scattered where any hulks or tanks are unable to engage any player without immediately getting vaporized by other players targeting the rear heatsinks.
>the hardest part of killing vox engines is killing it before anyone else can kill it first
>if anyone dies, there is a slight delay before you get called down. However you'll be called down near your stuff and that player will provide some covering fire while you're reorienting yourself to the situation
>everybody extracts despite vox engine patrols doing pic related from behind random piles of rocks
>we still have 10-15 reinforcements left
It's truly amazing when you consider that we put absolutely zero effort into attempting to curate who is allowed to play in the groups.
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>>557665008
>I'll keep making myself look retarded until somebody plays my headgames
Uhhhh okay lol?
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>>557672427
Shoot the vents
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>>557672763
if you already bought it, just keep going in TE until you get loyalist
if not, just get something else
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>>557670929
>people were all noobs
>half the bot roster could instagib you
>getting ragdolled through cover was even more common
>our gear was terrible
>even our stratagems were way worse
>armor value did literally nothing
>enemies would regularly bug into terrain where they could instantly kill you, and you couldn't even see them, and the terrain made shooting back impossible
>there were retarded modifiers like -1 stratagem slot and/or stratagem scrambler giving you a random stratagem after you punched the code in
I can't remember 100%, but I'm pretty sure no primary back then could kill a dev with one headshot.
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>>557672864
That is because the BFGL uses much smaller grenades, so it make sense it deals smaller damage to enemies. It's unironically realistic
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I hate how there isn't a black and yellow option for every armor so at least there's always a way to match to fall back on.
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>>557672427
thermite
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Why should I consider using the backpack GL instead of the AC?
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>>557670929
https://youtu.be/x0iS-HC92Fk?si=NZqG0WSXT8UzaBe5
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>>557673235
no reload
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>>557673235
You don't? The AC is superior to both the normal GL and BFGL
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>>557668402
Your grenade shield?
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>>557673235
no reload, higher firerate
it's still way worse in practically all cases because a max RPM BFGL will burn through the 100 nades in its backpack very quickly
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>>557670929
The main thing about the creek was the confluence of the following factors:
>the creek had poor visibility for us because of all of the bushes. The bots could shoot at us just fine through the bushes.
>enemy troopers, and especially rocket troopers and rocket devs, actually tried to hit us instead of trying to shoot cinematically near us.
>a single rocket would kill players even if we had heavy armor on.
So the whole thousand yard stare thing came from players moving through the jungle thinking that they were fine one moment and then just fucking dying to a random rocket the next instant.
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>>557673614
ahh, the good old days when a hulk flamethrower grazing your little toe meant instant death because AH was too retarded to realize that the fire dot was broken for players so they kept buffing it for everyone, including enemies
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>>557665378
>>557672127
>>557672807
>>557672932
So you'd rather take the Peacemaker than the Ultimatum. Got it.
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>>557673614
>instead of low visibility, we're either out in the open free to be vox spammed or trying to get our reds to work at all with the buildings
>strats bounce everywhere
>reload bug is still here
swigger code lives on, simply changing forms
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>>557672917
The kinda people who hang on 4chan threads already pre-filters the base
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>>557671569
https://www.ign.com/articles/some-helldivers-2-players-are-threatening-to-teamkill-anyone-who-wears-the-new-malevelon-creek-cape-but-the-community-is-fighting-back
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>>557673013
The diligence, which I liked on bots even back then, took two shots to the face to kill devastators.
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every time I hear about the "good old days" all I can think is that this game seems to be 100x better off now than it was back then. honestly the explosive popularity seems like a miracle given how shit the balance was.
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>>557652098
It's so funny you midwits genuinely think AI is firing death lasers at the ice caps and burning rainforests every time someone gens a smug robutt.
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>>557671569
>>557673980
This community is so fucking gay. Just shoot the bots and shut the fuck up.
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>All these debuffs joel keeps applying
>Still at 12% liberation on one (uno) city 3 days after we got the first one
Anyone still believes this shit isn't rigged from the start? I'd like to call them retards
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>>557674076
>if I make up a hyperbolic strawman, I can make you look stupid!
please kill yourself
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>>557672917
>geez I fucking hate being swarmed, I wish someone would keep relatively nearby so I can reload in peace
>geez, speaking of, stationary reloads - I wish someone would cover my ass so I don't have to bring Guard Dog and waste a strat slot every single fucking game
>geez, [every point from your post], I wish someone would do that to me

>times four (anons) with no lives hanging out in /hdg/

yeah, it's weird how people who aren't retarded gamer dads/LEDUDEWEEDBRO gamers can cooperate in a coop game

gives to think
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>>557674076
saar
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Peace between Super Earth and the Automatons!
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>>557674073
You're correct. The good old days sucked ass for the most part. But all our weapons being bad allowed for the occasional cool moment that we don't have anymore, like when I had an AC and my buddy an LC, a lone tank was trying to kills us but our OPS and eagles were on cooldown. So he ran out to draw its fire while I circled around to shoots its ass.
We both survived and hugged in front of the tanks burning wreckage.
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>>557669919
Holy PCope, PCpoors have always been the poorfag platform. Favela dwelling monkey men playing freemium shit like League at the local net cafe is the very image of the PCfag.
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I've got Borderline, Steeled, and Cutting Edge. Which Goybond should I spend my 1000 SC on?
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>get to the center of Cyberstan
>pic related
>entirety of Cyberstan gets hypernuked and breaks apart to reveal planet sized Socialist Star
This is the only possible way to make us lose and still keep it kino.
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>>557673791
>Vomits the word balance
>Gives no indication what this even means.
>When pressed says "hurr den why don't you take *random weapon* instead!?!
Are you retarded?
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>>557663195
gg
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>>557672917
>nobody communicates beyond the occasional map ping or a "thank you" emote
anon 'hdg' lobbies are yapping in chat constantly, what do you mean lmao
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I wish the UK or EU would just accelerate it's police state so I could become a Truth Enforcer irl
I am ready to throw my neighbor, my uncle, my brother, my own son into a camp for dissidence and undemocratic thoughts
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>>557674880
retard
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>Tune into OhDough for shits
>Talking about how gas grenades are to powerful of a CC
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>>557674880
This is exactly what swiggers think of you, retard
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>>557674989
but he's right?
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>>557675110
>ohdough
>right
Mutually exclusive at all times.
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>>557675110
the Pillsbury Femboy could say the sky is blue, I'll look outside and see fucking Namek
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>>557674989
>>557675110
Really? I thought gas didnt work.
https://streamable.com/nch1bn
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>decide to drop Cyberstan the first time in a week
>incel brigade
>sucky but I can handle it
>entire game crashes
>full-on GPU failure with all three monitors going down
>first time it does this in two years
>last time it was some some shitty prebuilt GPU whose drivers I had to replace wholesale thrice due to this game
>now it's a 4070 (because I refused to buy 50XX AIslop cards with melting power connectors)
I'M NOT FALLING FOR THAT SHIT. I GOT ONLINE AND WILL GET THE CAPE. THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT ANYMORE.
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>>557675812
FVLL
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>>557675524
KWAB
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>>557674445
It's well known this general has dedicated discord/reddit shitposters. I've seen obvious baitposts from both sides
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>>557674989
>boot up his stream
>supply pack
>talon
>crossbow
>siege ready
>GL
These are the people complaining endlessly the game is too hard and arrowhead needs to nerf all the enemies.
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you already posted that goonslop
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>>557671569
I'll be real i wear the cape to piss off predditors that weren't around back then and didn't get it but this is fucking gay and I feel gay by association now
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>>557674989
No one uses gasnades anymore because the only enemies capable of killing you are immune to them
In fact, all gas options are strict downgrades. Gasnades are worse than pyrotechs, gas strike is worse than gatling barrage, sterilizer is the worst support weapon even if the flamer is only ever used for meme builds
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>8m op mo
>about 100k people diving cyberstan (rounding down)
>quick maths: average of 80 operations per person
>80×3=240 missions per person
>if you did d4 missions it's still 80×2=160 missions per person
Doing the math, Joel was a bit too optimistic if you ask me.
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>>557676336
i use gas grenades with hotdog and flamethrower
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>>557676261
Kek it's like he searched for "strongest weapons in hd2", read the first plebbit post then decided that choosing all of them at the same time was a great idea
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>>557676336
>gas strike is worse than gatling barrage,
but gas strike PLUS gatling = everything is fucking dead as opposed to "everything is slightly injured as it walks out of the gatling barrage area
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>level 150 don't know that you can reload the main cannon on the tank
>spent the entirety of the time shooting the machine gun
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>>557676390
joel keeps forgetting that people will leave if you rig major events and leave deeply unsatisfying bugs unfixed
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>>557676261
I've been lurking off-handely.
He's reset the map for around, as much as I saw for ten minutes because if it's not a specific generation of the map its not fair and there's to many Vox Engine or War Machine spawns and cause to much ragdolling.
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>>557676336
gasnades are the meta among veteran bugdivers, way to out yourself as a typical /hdg/ shitter who couldn't last a day on gatria without his "leandiver" pals to carry him
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>>557676503
>A is strong, B is weaker
>But A + B is strong
Well, A + A is stronger
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>>557676261
>>557676595
Wait, he's taking this loadout to Vox spam?
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>>557671569
I've yet to see anyone wear this cape and also not be terrible at the game
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>>557676653
>meta
>veteran bugdivers
>gatria (???????)
retard
>can't help himself but include gay shit too
faggot retard
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>>557676261
>siege ready with the crossbow
>the GL on anything above 5
>talon
>this against vox engines
only his strategem choices are gonna matter now but if he's taken even a single green it's joever.
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Spurdodivers drawings maker man, I love your drawings a lot :3 CHU thanks for being you
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SAAAAAAAAR HOW DO I SLOWLY WALK WHILE ON THE DESTROYER? I CAN ONLY RUN, I'M ON M&K
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this is my favorite gun
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There should be a free fire resist armor
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>>557676932
>>the GL on anything above 5
You know it's the best AP4 weapon atm, right?
And what do you even mean by "anything above 5", do you think you need to even pick a support weapon for d10?
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>>557677059
>>557677092
>>557677119
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>>557677119
great choice
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>>557676932
>>the GL on anything above 5
damn anon why did you just flat out admit you don't play the game?
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>>557676932
he brought full blues
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>>557677142
I wouldn't know I run Eagle Bombing Runs and Gattling Barrage
Primary, Secondary and Nades should take care of everything that's not a big-big fucker and C4 takes care of just about anything so I take that whenever I feel like having an easier time
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>>557677129
>he wasn't here when everyone got free Light Acclimated
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>>557676653
I haven't used gas in ages, I always go Stalwart/Maxi and bring thermites/ulti for AT these days
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>>557677347
He thinks SR is for the xbow too... That D5 claim was projection
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I just want to say fellas, I love you all. We're still better than the pubs out there and part of the 5% that do make it through D10 Cyberstan, especially when I start treating my tank as a fat ass emplacement to cover the objectives
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>>557677382
this is what i see in my head when the vox engine opens its little red-hot slit
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>destroy air base control tower.
>someone blows it up with the backpack hellbomb.
>"sorry you played the game wrong so now the mission is softlocked."
Cool game.
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>>557677347
>>557677452
Not gonna lie, I rock the GL with SP on Diff 10 Cyberstan, its just such a nice fuck you to War Striders with my Trident
Use laser or the quick firing gatling guns and or 77sec/rl turret
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>>557677639
literally doesn't happen lmao
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>>557677215
You don't ":3" love the drawing man?
What are you a faggot?
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>>557677382
It's the mark of a carried shitter who is only able to hold M1 and spam stims. You can always trust those retards will have the highest death count too
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Started the game today, the big dispatch screen talks about Cyberstan and everyone needs to go there
I can't because I'm lvl 1 and it needs lvl 4
I grind to lvl 4 on some nearby red planet and start fighting red robots, they're pretty tough
With my rookie loadout I start a Cyberstan mission and instantly get raped by mortars and jetpack robots

Do I need to lvl up somewhere else before contributing to this campaign?
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>>557677729
godspeed little chud, super earth needs you wherever you are dropping
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>>557677364
if none of them are disposables he's fucked
>>557677347
>>557677452
nah i just find SR to be very fucking boring honestly. more ammo and faster reload. Straight upgrade, sure, yet otherwise kinda eh when all of the armors that have it suck drip-wise
urban camo is gay as fuck and having any sense for ammo usage counteracts both problems that SR sets out to solve. wouldn't call it a straight-up crutch (reserve that for Unflinching, Rock Steady and even my beloved Reduced Signature) but it really boils down the playstyle to
>take whatever mows down the most enemies regardless of your aim
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>>557677381
I was but there should be a free armor with the inflammable passive
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>>557677685
Literally does happen. Go play the game and find out for yourself.
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>>557677729
I'll pop your cherry early and just say it straight to you: the Galactic War is fake and railroaded, nothing you or anyone does actually matters and things only ever get done if the GM places his hands on the scales, you're better off going to a random planet that lets you learn how to play and have fun
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>>557651340
Hello fat weak cucks of /hdg/ who aren't allowed a C-01 permit because your genes were determined useless KEK. I'll fuck your favorite girls for you.
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>>557678005
never happened to me once
post a video or fuck off
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Why does it take ten missions to level weapons past level 20? and why are good attachments like drum mags at level 24?
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>>557677729
Son, Cyberstan is basically a huge meat grinder right now, you don't really stand a chance at that level.

Go to the bugs or squids side of the galaxy, and find some people on Kerth Secundus, Gatria or Fori Prime to play with. Unlock weapons and upgrades.
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>>557678076
You know why.
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>>557677639
this happened to me on aurora bay when a host tried to blow it up with a hellbomb, it was destroyed but the game still wanted us to use the terminal and obviously, it didn't fucking work
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>>557678030
but she's playing helldivers with me right now?
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>>557677943
SR lets you have an extra magazine for the GL
Also stop avatarfagging
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>>557678076
to make you play the fucking game
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>>557678076
are you stupid
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>>557678064
You can just sit there and seethe that your swigger game is not perfect.
>>557678147
It was also on aurora bay.
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>>557677729
Cyberstan right now is an actual gear check and you clearly don't have even basic shit
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>>557678170
>SR lets you have an extra magazine for the GL
>but it really boils down the playstyle to
>>take whatever mows down the most enemies regardless of your aim
just repeating my conclusion back to me really but I'm glad we're on the same page
as for your other comment
>pic related
i'll stop now
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>>557678021
>>557678141
ok I guess I'm gonna try out some bug missions tomorrow...
Is there a smart way to farm this green upgrade material?
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making something out of billion gigabytes of recorded footage that I probably won't bother turning in to a full video

https://streamable.com/er6a5s
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>>557670806
Holy shit, Plasma Purifier is satisfying as fuck against bots.
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anypony wanna host for clopstan?
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Also why the fuck is like 10 grams worth of metal for a laser enclosure worth a 2 ergonomics penalty?
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>>557678392
stay on D6 and farm POIs and side objective areas for samples, slips, medals, and SC
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>>557678396
>"the HMG needs more ammo"
>https://streamable.com/er6a5s
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>>557678445
Is the libpen good, it feels like the coyote is just better, even without the fire.
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>>557678392
the only smart way to farm is to either
>difficutly 1, run around collecting shit, leave without extracting if all you care about are SC and medals
>difficulty 5 with a squad to collect all the samples if you need rares and commons
>difficulty 8 with a squad to get super samples
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>>557677943
>unflinching
>rock steady
>crutch
What is little bro smoking.
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>>557678392
Just do D1 missions, learn how the POIs on D1s work. For green samples, you will get them in D1s as long as you extract. However, I have been rescue diving D4's on Cyberstan, and have seen players in the single digit levels in those missions, so dont feel afraid to go where you want. Use Orbital Gatling, MG Sentry, and EATs, and you will be learn.
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>>557678519
That's the liberator carbine from the viper commandos pass.
It's a gimmicky weapon the only reason I'm leveling it is because once you put a drum mag you can have a light machinegun primary with better ergonomics than the actual call in machinegun but the drum mag is locked behind level 24.
Pretty good at popping heads in cyberstan though if you can aim it's not actually that bad.
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>>557678396
>all that wasted ammo
cringe
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>>557677952
Then save up for the Fire Fighter armor in the Superstore. You can get SC from just playing the game, and 250 SC is quite cheap.

>>557678392
You just explore the map and pick them up off the ground. Minor Places of Interest and enemy bases tend to have them,
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>>557677729
I love watching newbies who have no idea what they're doing running around and getting btfo, they are so cute
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>>557678514
ngl it looks bad but no way to master the recoil other than just shooting until I get the hang of it
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>>557678445
It used to be 5. And stop being autistic, anything above ~40-45 Ergo is as good as you could ever need.
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>>557678445
Everything realism related makes more sense when you realize how shit/poor the Swedish military is. Their military doesn't issue muzzle attachments/laser aiming modules/foregrips for grunts which is what majority of AH are as conscripts. They probably think foregrips are solid pieces of metal instead of being hollow inside hence the ergo cost.
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>>557678702
I own all the warbonds, I just think there should be a free one
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>>557678392
I haven't intentionally picked up a single sample in 2 years... Higher difficulties have more but D6/D7 should be the sweet spot between sample availability and players actually picking them up
Don't try too hard to upgrade your ship, most of them are useless. There's only two that actually impact your gameplay, Superior Packing Methodology and the extra Eagle use
Pick the MG sentry if you can't deal with a lot of enemies yet. Get used to calling down EATs to deal with heavies too
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>>557678445
Gamification is good. Choices should have consequences.
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>>557678836
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>>557678836
Hats on helmets is retarded and will never look good.
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>>557677729
I just went to cyberstan as soon as it unlocked and just drop with random people
as long as you're playing the objective and not dying excessively its fine
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>>557678963
The devs are trying to sell this game as gritty realism no space magic allowed thoughbeit
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>>557678836
Wow. ANOTHER light pen pistol and ANOTHER M90A and ANOTHER fire weapon with the only difference being ammo capacity and range.
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What's the point of a laser pointer if you have a reticle?
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>>557678836
Pretty excited to roleplay as the good guys
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>>557678836
>heavy pen slamfire shotgun, bonus incendiary capacity and bayonet
>OG medpen senator but semi-auto, 2x5 clipazine reloading like autocannon
>super nape rape flamethrower with 40 meters+ range
BELIEVE
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>>557678836
I don't want ancient WW1 shit in my sci-fi shooter because I'm not a chronically nostalgic boomer
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>>557678836
>Flamer downgrade
>Shitty Peacemaker
>Shitty Punisher
Can't wait bro
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>>557679061
this, unless we get a mustard gas mortar we're not interested in world war boomer humbuggery
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>>557679030
True, blasting the dirty nazis with the trench shotgun was so cash
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>>557678836
that flamethrower is going to be such mega shit lmao
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When are they gonna run out of stratagem button combos
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>>557678852
>he thinks its some deep shit and not just stats changing cus its a game with pro/con mechanics
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>110 million reserves left (26%)
>~425 million total reserves over the event
>140 million dead on cyberstan
>~70 million dead on the march to cyberstan
>almost 50% of the deaths were outside of the event
>despite ~80% of the population being on bots/cyberstan the whole time
you don't hate bugdivers enough
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>>557679271
I wouldn't worry about that, they're not going to release enough strats before EoS for it to be an issue.
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>>557679010
>as gritty realism
No they are not. Suspension of belief =/= pure fantasy =/= pure realism.
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>>557679271
If the average stratagem is 6 buttons, that's about 4k possible combinations
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>>557678852
you put more thought into it than the devs did
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>>557679416
Hello Sven
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Was it real, or just a nightmare
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>>557679693
BOT DROP DETECTED
GET YOUR AT READY THERE'S THREE VOX DROPSHIPS
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>>557679379
More like Joel just fabricates all the numbers out of whole cloth.
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>>557679547
but stratagems in the same category all start the same way.
non vehicle blues and greens all start with down arrow
orbitals right arrow
eagles up arrow
vehicles left arrow
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>>557679379
So? Joel can conjure 6 bajillion reserves out of nowhere, who cares?
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Cyberstan, dropping in 10 mins will not wait
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>>557678836
>Flamer
There is a 0% chance this is good without a major unique feature. 2x range or more would have to be the bare minimum.
>Flame shotgun
No idea how this is going to be viable unless its a slug with heavy armor pen
>Light/medium side arm
I guess its going to be the first and only fire side arm that can ignite at range so its something at least.
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>>557679906
that's still like a thousand+ possible combinations per category of stratagems
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>>557680118
2/4
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>>557676932
>>557676261
talon and xbow are both viable, but it's like he's doubling down on anti-cyborg shit with the GL. Honestly he should probably run a purifier or loyalist to better give universal access to a gunship counter.
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>>557679686
>Reply logically
>Call it a Sven post
You unintentionally giving him praise is hilarious
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>>557679906
>eagles up arrow
Up right
>vehicles left arrow
Left down right (then up for vehicles, or down for mechs)
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>>557679379
You know that gucci NIGGERS has been denying that monofront bugNIGGERS are the problem for basically as long as there have been two fronts active? we're not allowed to have nice things like organic campaign events and proper moving warfronts that aren't deadlocked specifically and solely because of them.

Even if Joel wasn't a swigger nigger and even when he controls himself, everything will always be constrained by accounting for this traitorous do-nothing demographic who will ONLY do bug missions for MUH STARSHIP TROOPERS purposes, a demographic that has existed since the original game launched and still has not been solved. the bugNIGGER question may NEVER be solved.
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>>557680118
full
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FOMO sisters are screaming
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>>557676503
> gas strike PLUS gatling
the opportunity cost for throwing two stratagems at the same problem is too high.
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>>557678836
They really are just spamming out a bunch of backpack support weapons aren't they?
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>>557680385
just give a debuff like half reinforcements, half ammo and double cooldowns and call in timers on anyone not dropping on an MO planet. Something simply and easy like that without being too punishing
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>>557680508
yet they still haven't learned how to make it worthwhile
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>>557680419
He means 'When attacking X planet players get Y buff for free'. Not weapons/armor or anything actually FOMO.
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>>557680419
*changes MO to make you lose*
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>>557680419
Also no HD3 (for a long time) cumfirmed?
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>>557680545
Holy based idea. If we can have -1 stims and half ammo and shit on cyberstan, bugbabies should get RAPED with bullshit modifiers while a story significant MO is happening.
Half reinforcements to help them not waste our limited live allotment is gigabased.
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>>557680545
it won't stop them, nothing has ever stopped them from their chicanery

back in Helldivers when you could just close out the tug of war on a faction front permanently for the duration of that war, the entire bugdiver population would just LEAVE as soon as there were no more bugs. then they would wait for the rest of the population to either finish the borgs & squids off, or get tired of being stuck on one faction like the bugNIGGERS willfully choose to be and just let the war be lost so everyone could have faction variety again

they will FORCE YOU TO HARD CARRY OR THROW, just so they can SHOOT BUG. they know nothing else. there is nothing else in their empty heads. only BUG.
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>>557679379
I'll graciously let you be instakilled by vox pods from three zip codes away in my place, anon
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lobby???
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>>557680994
The plan is to turn Helldivers 2 into 3.
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>>557680994
>>557681148
Good. Fuck yearly releases.
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>Stealth works bro
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>>557680994
>>557681148
I for one am happy for this. I guarantee HD3 if they made it right now would
A) not come out in 7 years minimum anyway
B) completely rape what little content we get (ala the Overwatch effect - we'd get nothing bc they'd be busy swiggering over the new game)
C) be soulless codslop garbage. They'd likely remove every bit of sovl HD2 had. It'd be shit like no prone, no choosing where to drop for a mission, a linear story campaign that took 70% of the dev time, etc. etc. etc.
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>>557677729
Better gear is locked behind levels. Even more of the good gear is locked behind the paid warbonds which you can grind for free. However, the trick is to install the Super Credits finder mods you can only find in the underground. Your first priority for warbonds is the Control Group, it's the only one that lets you bypass the bunker that needs 2 players to open it.
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>>557681351
Turrets are bugged, they seem to operate as normal regardless of stealth armor.
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>>557680994
Pileofshitd is gunning for a decade.
>8 MORE YEARS OF BITSQUID/STINGRAY ENGINE
>8 MORE YEARS OF UNFIXED BUGS
>8 MORE YEARS OF REINTRODUCED PREVIOUSLY FIXED BUGS
>8 MORE YEARS OF SWEDEN'S SWEDISH SWIGGERY
>8 MORE YEARS OF ALEXUS
>8 MORE YEARS OF JOEL
>8 MORE YEARS OF VACATION
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>>557681148
well, they better start coding "HD3" in another engine because whatever jank this is is not gonna work for more than 5 years
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>>557660416
It takes the eruptor around 35 seconds without accounting for reloading to destroy a bile titan's head, with reloading more like a 50-60 seconds.
The dominator given ap4 would kill a bile titan in 9 seconds, accounting for the reload. This is only twice as slow as the HMG on it's highest RPM.
Outside of anti-tank applications, the dominator would perform much better against all previous ap3 targets.
Notably: Hive Guards, Bile Spewers, Devastators, Scout Striders, Gunships, Harvester joints, and Stingrays.

You're inability to make the dominator work is hilarious considering it's current one-tap opportunities, stagger, DPS, and pierce.
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>>557670929
most players played bugs
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>>557680118
welp, lobby is so laggy i cant interact with any terminal and i time out. so ggs i guess?
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>>557681686
>8 years of warbond backlog for new players
good luck lmao
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>>557679010
There are warp packs. Also you talk like a fag.
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>>557681556
>it's the only one that lets you bypass the bunker
Exosuit strategy still works for bunkers.
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>>557675812
3/4 again, one more op
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>>557679335
You are a retard. Pilestadt specifically said he based the starting amount of mags on how much was given and that everyone would try to get more mags by stuffing them in pockets which is what the booster is suppose to represent
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I wish they'd release armor color customization already because I really like this helmet and it reminds me of my favorite Halo armor but it's unfortunately toothpaste colored
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>>557682361
Full again
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>>557682429
>This invasion brought to you by Colgate
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>>557682379
>this one mechanic thats somewhat realistic means everything is or has to be
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>>557682068
What's the matter? Don't want to grind for three years to unlock all the warbonds? That's okay, you can just buy the SC, goy
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>>557682429
>https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/SC-37_Legionnaire
>https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/AD-26_Bleeding_Edge
nigga
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>check for Tenderizer reskin/audio mods
>latest Halo reskin mod for it is 6 months old
>none of the audio mods work
Boy this gun doesn't get as much love as it used to
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>>557681686
By then modding/hacking tools will have advanced to the point we can freely balance™ the game however we want for ourselves in private lobbies. We'll all finally be free from the Swede's swiggery. This is True Freedom.
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>>557682558
when they said it's one of their FUNDAMENTAL BELIEFS, yeah.
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>>557682676
god i need to pick up modding this summer. I'd LOVE to get back my colored lasers and turn my dickle into the HL2 rifle
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>>557681686
the games engine was out of date and discontinued when they started development in 2016 and they want it to last until 2034?
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>>557682676
>>557682752
>every major update breaks all the mods
>swedes release updates seldomly enough to make players and modders forget the game or their mods
>swiggers also frequently change how files are stored and used so you can't just slap a version change on your mod and count it as updated
I'm surprised modders even give a fuck, still.
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>>557682676
>>none of the audio mods work
post one and I'll fix it
can't be fucked to do models though
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>>557682912
ure playing a space game with magic heroin that heals bones instantly and alien zombies sir
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>>557683318
i'm aware? it's just annoying when they justify bad design with this "fundamental belief" that has more holes in it than swiss cheese.
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>>557683318
>magic
Super Earth is literally not allowed to have magical elements, chud.
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>>557683162
that TF2 sentry sound mod made sentries infinitely more bearable by giving you that 0.5s heads up with that forever-engraved sound in your head.
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I don't know why I thought of this now, but you reckon every citizen is required to have a Super Truth Display™ in their household?
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>>557683525
it's probably the only thing they can have on there
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>>557683162
>>swiggers also frequently change how files are stored and used so you can't just slap a version change on your mod and count it as updated
This was what killed my interest in maintaining my mod. Every time the file structure got changed I had to remake every single .patch file in the mod, and I just can't be assed to do it for all 54 of them every single time. It wasn't hard work, but holy shit was it tedious to do the blender shit I needed to do, make the patch, load it in arsenal, launch the game, make sure it works, then move the .patch to its location in the mod folders 54 times.
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>>557683525
Absolutely. And you just know they get fed bug-meal too.
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How come the destroyer can pin point accurate drop a dinky supply pack right on top of the beacon but if my teammate throws my beacon safely behind cover there's a 99.99% chance it puts me right in the middle of a pack of bots?
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>>557682590
8 years
~8 warbonds per year
700sc per warbond w/rebate
44800sc for all of them
2100sc for $20
~$426
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>>557683783
Reinforcement hellpods have been glitched for months now. The game will spawn you way too far from where the actual beacon is. This is why I stopped giving a shit about where to throw it because the game will fuck it up and put the poor fucker somewhere else anyway.
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>>557683586
I'd assume so. I was staring at the oversized luxury Super Destroyer TV with in-built speakers and wondered why it only shows the news, ads, or propaganda instead of more pertinent military information or schedule information. I realized this is probably very familiar, comfortable even, for every Super Earth citizen.
So of course it would be on the ships of their elite forces to bolster their resolve. I imagine a state provided information and entertainment center for every household could be a powerful force in propagandizing and controlling the people.
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>>557683783
It's just a thing that happens in Megacities, because the game doesn't want you landing on top of skyscrapers (which does happen anyway but is rather uncommon). The same thing happens on Hive World caves and occasionally on earthquake planets with the mushroom plateaus.
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>>557682068
>new players
lol
they don't need new players, they will milk the playerbase they got
that's why you can't have justice (yet), that's why you can't have rumbler (yet)
they will sell you a pile of shit with an iconic weapon on top, even if it will suck because alexus was in charge of balance
or they will sell you another pile of shit with one stupidly overpowered item, which they may or may not nerf later, after (((propaganda commanders))) make their tictoks.
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>>557684370
Well yeah like everything else about Super Earth, it's cribbed from both 20th century novels about totalitarian states and IRL totalitarianism, in that case the tele-screens from 1984.
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>>557682634
Legionnaire is nice too for different reasons but the visor just isn't bulbous enough on those
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>>557684601
the newest one has all good stuff in it at least
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>545 posts
>no lobbies
I guess those good days are gone forever...
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>>557685259
you literally deserve this
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>>557685259
most people are cyberstan fatigued now, hoping for a patch that reduces either vox spawns or war srtrider spawns or both
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>Some guy had :3 as his callsign instead of B1,D2 or whatever
How?
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>>557685317
you may be right
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>>557685375
bbcode bullshit in your steam handle
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>>557685375
u sure it wasnt "i3"? or i think some symbols become invisible so in the chat it just looks like 3 etc
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>didn't even break 200k today
Joel will have his rotten fish ration reduced to 10 jars a day for his failure.
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>>557685483
No pretty sure it was straight up :3
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>>557681704
>You're inability to make the dominator work
i didnt say it didnt work
i want it to work harder
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>>557685710
Vox fatigue
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>warbond releases alongside major new bot content
>the grenade launcher is only useful against bugs
Botcuckolds
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>>557686070
>this weapon is already fine/good but I want it to be EVEN STRONGER
confirmed bufftoddlers definition of "good balance" actually means "everything must be OP"
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>>557686150
They probably wanted you to stealth missions hence the redacted warbond but that backfired
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>>557686150
>stealth bond released and was awesome for bots
>worthless in Cyberstan
aiiiiieeeeeeeeee
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>>557686204
a devastator typed this
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Trident has turned out to be a lot better than I thought and is very high tier. The only thing it sucks against that I wish it didn't was the fully armored Cyborgs. You really have to be RIGHT next to them and even then it takes quite a few shots.
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>>557686218
Not so much backfired as it worked for exactly 2 weeks and then they broke them with another update because the swedes cannot fucking help themselves.
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*controls every aspect of your life*
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>>557684585
It's not on the known issues list and it's existed so long while not being fixed so I can only assume it's an intentional change at this point.
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>>557686430
i'm glad the C4 broke those chains for me
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They desperately need to add a tertiary slot for the designator and the C4 detonator. C4 is currently just a reskinned RR and it's very disappointing.
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>>557686330
I'd enjoy an adjustable Trident spread. Either bespoke weapon attachments or simple adjustable setting.
I'd also enjoy adjustable fire-rates for all full-auto laser weapons:
1. Low RPM setting that does not build heat.
2. Medium RPM setting that is the current defaults.
3. High RPM setting for maximum pewpew
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>>557686553
Perhaps if I tried it, I would feel converted, but only 6 C4 doesn't feel enough for taking both the backpack and support weapon slot. I just feel like I will be out of C4 half of the time and then be caught without real ability to fight back.
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>>557686993
>if
>i think
>feel like
ok theorycrafter
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>>557687112
I don't want to waste 1000 SC just to see if I am right.
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>>557686993
just find an ammo box bro, the ammo economy is excellent
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>try to use the stealth warbond shit on cyberstan
>Attempt to sneak on a Vox machine
>It uses it's 6th 7th and 8th sense me through walls to just spam missiles at me
>finally get under it whilst having aggroed the entire map on me
>It just obliterates me with it's two tank cannons that can look straight down undearneath it
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>>557686993
do you use the RR? imo the c4 is more ammo efficient because of the AOE potential, and it also has +1 ammo over the RR. if you can manage with the RR, you can manage with the C4.
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>>557687353
I am using GL + Supply Pack lol. I avoid the RR actually.
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im tired of reading disparaging remarks about the spear
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>Portable hell bomb
>Retard rush every objective and blow myself up to get it
I went from wiping most matches with pubbies in D8 to solo completing the objectives then we wipe during extraction.
Most of the time the downies on my steam just get bogged down near extraction and waste most lives while I consistently get one or two objectives and strongholds per life.
It's the best i can do.
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>>557687290
Voxes and turrets are bugged as I found out
>>557681351
Stealth is useless it's better to equip medium armor with extra padding, portable hellbomb and just retard rushing everything to at least clear the objectives.
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I don't think Portable Hellbomb has ever been stronger than it has been in Cyberstan, depending on the mission.
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>>557687531
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>D10 flag
>Spawn
>extract is clipped into city wall with no way of getting to landing pad without dying and being called in.
>OK
>Mission begins by Vox phasing through wall at entry point
>Mission goes well. I use turrets to crossfire into flag zone and use strats to deal with Vox
>Extract time
>I die and team-mate spawns me on landing pad which is otherwise inaccessible
>Shuttle lands
>Vox Engine phases through city wall, entirely, drives into pelican and sits there.
>Squad wipe. '

Why does this keep happening
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Alright I think I've finally worked out a list of support weapons that 100% need a buff/rework (not counting the flag). From highest to lowest priority:
1. Sterilizer
2. Flamethrower
3. SPEAR
4. De-escalator
5. Epoch
6. Arc Thrower
7. HMG
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>>557687290
>he fell for one of the most telegraphed attacks the Vox Engine has

>>557687619
It really does make life easier when you can just brute force the Jammer that's making your team's life hell, or instantly complete the fuel tank objective because you only need to call down one Hellbomb instead of two.
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>>557687834
The healing darts gun needs a lock on for a real healslut support build.
>Stun rifle from the piggies warbond
>Healing darts sidearm
>Stimpack armor (to use on team)
>Supply pack
>Shield dome
>EMS mortar
>Stun grenade launcher
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>>557687619
I've had some issues where PHB doesn't perform as expected. Is the Hellbomb / PHB damage area consistent or are there other inconsistencies with things like gunfabs, jammers, fuel tanks, etc.?
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>>557687753
portable hellbomb is the only stratagem ever
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>>557688057
That's not a support weapon
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>>557688057
what the heal darts need is a better weapon system. Even a lazy edit of the reeducator gas pistol will do
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>Super Eath has finally reached 8 bajillion illuminate kills
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>>557687834
The Epoch is perfectly fine, anyone who still doesn't know how to use it after the fixes and buffs are literally getting filtered by it.
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>"um actually i have a forcefield lol"
I was lucky the area was otherwise empty and I could just go around it. I hope this never happens again in real combat.
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>>557687960
>he fell for one of the most telegraphed attacks
well I cant really dodge it when I'm underneath it the damn thing
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>>557688238
It has too many downsides and too few positives. I can understand liking it but there's no reason for you to defend it here.
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>>557688286
It's like watching a buster keaton gag.
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>>557688446
>mfw I bust in her keaton until she gag
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https://youtu.be/V-ipC5QszRA
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>>557688446
kek, it really is.
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>>557679012
>>557679089
>>557679192
>>557680143
How many times have you doomers been blown out by based AH lately?
>Redacted was good
>Breakers was good
>Bastion was good
and yet you still continue to doubt

>>557679056
this anon gets it
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hd1, d15 whatevs
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>>557687834
>1. Sterilizer
agree. needs to at least leave lingering clouds and/or apply acid debuff (and only it, no other gas weapon)
>2. Flamethrower
agree. the primary slot torcher is so much better than it. it desperately needs more range and DPS, possibly also leaving heavy napalm pools instead of the basic ones
>3. SPEAR
agree. needs actual top-attack mode with a two-part tandem warhead. somewhere around 2500 on the probe and the original 4000 on the primary charge would give it enough punch to break outer armour and kill bile titans in one shot, and would make it a two-shot guarantee vs factory striders from any angle
>4. De-escalator
agree. needs more damage per arc or way more chains
>5. Epoch
negative
>6. Arc Thrower
only needs a change charge and fire automatically when holding the mouse button and to FINALLY FIX THE FUCKING FIZZLING ISSUE
>7. HMG
negative
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>>557688395
When you see it start to point its main guns at the ground, you know to stand clear. It's like standing underneath a dragon in Dark Souls and then just saying there when it suddenly flies straight up into the sky and points its head straight down.

>>557688398
Again, it's perfectly fine and doesn't need a buff or rework in any way. And the fact that your list doesn't even include the NEAT or BFGL tells a lot about your opinion on balancing.
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>>557679056
here's a more sensible prediction
>incendiary ammo med pen buckshot shotgun with half the cookout's capacity
>rounds reload verdict
>tier 2 fire flamethrower w/o reload
+the smg with underslung flamethrower that everyone seems to have forgotten about
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>join SOS
>0 reinforcements and no objectives completed
>join another SOS
>0 reinforcements and no objectives completed

How do you let it get that fucking bad.
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>>557688904
HMG needs a small buff
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>>557688286
oh hey it's the factory strider bug
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>>557688904
just remove the retarded durable damage penalty on the HMG, there's no reason for it to exist
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>kill a cyborg
>another shows up
>kill that one too
>three more charge me
>kill them
>a fucking conga line of cyborgs start bumrushing me
40% of my kills in one mission were cyborgs, what the fuck
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>everyone on the team brings Levellers
>suddenly missions are significantly more tolerable thanks to Vox Engines actually getting killed
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>>557689027
How did you fire that without locking on
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>>557689150
>anon figures out teamwork is the ultimate counter to vox engines
:o
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>>557688581
idk why you posted this, but this goes hard crazy style
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>>557689202
Not even teamwork, just the fact that everyone is carrying a counter to Vox Engines since everything else is piss easy to deal with.
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Why no one using plasma punisher? It literally two shot those cyborgs.
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>>557689601
divers kinda forgot about the plasma punisher
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>Materializes out of thin air behind you
>Knees you into ragdoll state without making a sound
>2nd Cyborg materializes and shotguns you for your remaining health while you are still in ragdoll state
>"Nothing personal, Helldiver."
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How long until the Trident is nerfed into the ground?
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Leandiver update?
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v
flinch
v
flinch
V
FLINCH
bravo swiggers
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>>557689803
>people using the gun that JUST released over the slop they've had for months
wowweeeee
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>>557682752
yes
there was an anon the other week that mounted a tripod laser on the FRV while we were fighting the terminids
That shit was hilarious
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>>557689601
1. Cyborgs aren't the only enemies you're fighting.
2. Explosive Crossbow one-shots them while also killing Fabricators from long range.
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>>557689803
Wow, I guess people are actually using Scorcher. Good, it is great at Cyberstan.

I switched to Trident for Jet Brigade though. It feels especially suited for the modifier.
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>>557689601
it takes like 3-4 shots to kill a dev and the fire rate is slow. How does it do against agitators though? Maybe I'll bring it...
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>>557688737
2/4
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>>557689803
>the Purifier isn't even on the list
And the most slept-on primary in the game lives another day to avoid being targeted for nerfs.
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>>557688704
I don't think I'm a doomer. I was excited for Redacted Regiment and Siege Breakers prior to release, and that excitement was lived up to after that. I just can't imagine what is pictured in that leaked warbond adding anything new. It just seems like another ODST situation where everything is just filler. If it's also a Trench Crusade collaboration like I'm sorta thinking, then it's even more grim because Arrowhead is 0 out of 2 for collaboration warbonds.
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>>557690038
Alexis doesn't play by those rules.
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>>557689803
It's SOOO good for panic firing into close up cyborgs and devastators.
It's SOOO good that one time that you manage to get under a Vox Engine when your stratagems are on cooldown
It's SOOO good at clearing chaff with unlimited ammo and even now with the pajeet brigade it's a bird hunt
It's SOOO good when you happen to be behind a hulk and you just blast him in a second

It's worthless agains War Striders and Gunships.
So overall it's a Purifier sidegrade
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>>557688737
plague thread bring your bird mask
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>>557689803
>Difficulty: All
It's just people testing out the new things, bro, no one is seriously taking the Trident to D10 Cyberstan.
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>>557689849
It would be nice if they added an armor set that reduces flinching. I wonder what they could call it? Flinchless? Noflinch?
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>>557690123
you're a retarded nigger btw
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>>557689986
It's two shot against agitators with or without armour, because for some weird reason plasma punisher ignore it.
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>>557690123
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>>557690125
I'd call it Lessflinching
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>>557689849
I literally had to use the Unflinching armor for this shit, I hate being flinched and kill myself with my Leveller
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>>557690125
Rock solid?
It's literally what it does - stagger translates into flinching, then ragdolls if high enough for helldivers
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>>557689803
>>557690221
Who was that retard influencer who said the crossbow was the most op weapon in the game?
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>>557690123
see
>>557690117
It's better than ever in the CQB of cyberstan compared to what it was on merak
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>>557690125
Literally already exists and was called garbage when it came out
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>>557688737
2/4 still, join to hear the tale of my 5 day adventure
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>>557690429
negroid nobody here play that shit
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>>557690395
>>557690125
unflinching only removes the weapon flinch in first person
it won't stop you from being interrupted from stimming when hit
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>>557689803
SURELY you guys aren't using popularity metrics to determine the merit of a gun
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>>557690395
Don't forget that when it released it didn't even have the higher armor rating and markers which are the only two moderately useful things about it, it's just worse padded armor
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>>557689803
god bless the eruptor
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>>557655910
Give it to me
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>>557690482
AH certainly does
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>>557689803
It's over. We like it too much.
>>557690482
Sweden does.
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>>557690395
I think you missed the sarcasm
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>>557690462
skill issue
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>>557690462
hey pal, don't call me a negroid, ok?
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>>557688737
>helldivers 1
wtf
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Shield Grenades are being slept on.
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>>557689153
It did, I just held fire
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>>557690812
Yes is good
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>>557690195
that's actually really nice. maybe i should dive on the stan again
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I gotta say, I feel like the drip department nailed the HD2 base armor. I don't dislike the HD1 base armor, but this just feels way more stylish. It is a great pick for Cyberstan too.
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>>557690038
It's annoying to use. I hate getting hit while charging up. The real shocker there is the scorcher being that high. I rarely see it compared to the purifier.
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>>557690812
the patrician's choice
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>>557690812
yes, now join, now
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Is force of law still the worst value warbond?
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They won't stop talking about us in the Halo general...
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>>557691064
i'm level 15, is that cool?
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>>557691072
No, that's still Masters of Ceremony.
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>>557691094
spiritual successor in a lot of ways
actual Halo chads are playing HD2
been that way since launch
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>>557691121
yes
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>>557691064
NTA but i would join you if i was high level.
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>>557691094
/hdg/, the fat weak psyopped cuck general.
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>>557688904

Heavy machine gun needs more damage and 2 more magazines. Epoch needs like 3 times more damage. Deescalator needs more damage. Spear needs double the ammo. Sterilizer needs triple the range along with the flamethrower.
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>>557691205
JUST JOIN YOU WILL BE OKAY
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>>557691268
hmg just needs to better reward those going into prone with lwoer recoil
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>>557689803
Its getting nerfed tomorrow.
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>>557691156
MoC has cool looking armor though?
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>>557691306
I am playing Halo...
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>>557690125
flinching and stagger are two different things. flinching throws off your aim when shooting ,stagger interrupts actions and stumbles your character. unflinching does exactly what it says and prevents your aim from getting thrown off.
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>10 swings to kill a devastator
what the fuck where they THINKING???
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>>557689803
put bullet drag in it, make it lame and gay!
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>>557691360
>doesn't use peak physique
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I'll join HD1 lobbies when we're not fighting an active campaign in HD2 and we have some downtime
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>>557691549
>peak physique affects recoil
??? ??? ???
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>>557688737
full
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Does it make sense that Cyborgs are rundown chaff units while the automatons take shots at you from a safer distance?

Are we sure the Automatons don't control the Cyborgs at this point rather than vice versa?
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>>557691162
yeah I played halo in the og days on the huge xbox, fell off around reach. Well I did play Halo Wars 2 which had no right being as good as it was under nuHalo management. HD2 certainly brings back that nearish future space military fantasy. I wonder if they'll ever branch out into other media like books or comics. The Halo books were fantastic for a while. (Yes I know there's a movie).
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>>557691458
it's like a lawnmower for the illuminate, which is what it was released for
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>>557691387
So long as it contains the One True Flag in its current state, it will continue to be a worthless warbond. I will die on this fucking hill.

>b-but muh Reinforced Epaul--
Mountain-Scaled.

>b-but muh Amend--
Still worse than the DCS.

>b-but muh Pyro--
Thermite.

The only thing I'm willing to give it credit for is Sample Scanner, which can help new players to get more samples to upgrade their Super Destroyers.
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>>557691669
we stepped on their lawn and they are pissed. probably cyber roid rage.

>>557691641
pic related
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>>557691669
Cyberstan cyborgs are just clones made from corpses. The original cyborgs are presumably on another planet as leaders
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>I was trying to fire with no ammo aswell
I'm such a fat fucking chud holy shit
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>>557691821
Yeah, makes sense. The OGs would never risk themselves on the battlefield. The party leaders are always safe behind a desk.
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>>557691669
They are sentient, which means they are angry and that's why they're trying to fucking Tiger Knee you in the teeth.
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>>557691360
>hmg just needs to better reward those going into prone with lwoer recoil
but it does? proning with the HMG reduces recoil the same as any weapon
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>Smoke grenade can blow up Vox butthole
wow nice, can it also destroy fabricators?
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>>557692020
no
vent is a 0 demo force check if the source is explosive so technically even arc and shield should be able to kill it since game considers all grenades inherently explosive
fabs need 20
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>>557691637
yeah
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>>557691549
nah man. Think about it, just a simple upgrade to the bipod will make things much better than having the shots have the same spread as the CS1 AK47
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>>557692093
it doesn't
it's just a flat 30 ergo buff
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>>557691962
that link is just girls frontline porn
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>>557692083
>no
Smoke enjoyers just can't get a break....
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>>557669597
>>557669597
>>557669597
>>557669597
send halp pls
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>>557691962
>>557692372
you lied to me, there was no Girls Frontline Porn, just footage of that guy getting OWNED
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>>557692478
throwing a smoke grenade into a fabricator should spawn like 20 troopers out of it coughing and stuff
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>>557692757
so true
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>get up
>get kicked
>Get up
>get kicked
>get up
>Get kicked
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>>557692891
https://youtu.be/LODkVkpaVQA
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i love autocannon, its a non cucked version of the maxigun or the big loser gun
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>>557691821
I don't think its the same for hd1 but I'm convinced that cloning tech is rampant in hd2
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>>557693001
I honestly really like clone theory for the Super Destroyer, even though the devs shot it down and everyone else seems to hate it.
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>ruins your weakspot meta
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>>557670279
most of bastion's main gun damage is ballistic though
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>>557693419
>Mag dumps lib carbine
Pffft. Weakass enemy.
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>>557693534
>Mag dumps
that's the issue nigger
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>>557693571
>issue
Ammo is infinite
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>>557693634
But time is not.
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>>557693419
I love it when you turn into a fine red mist with direct eruptor shots
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>>557693419
>dies to a single Exploding Crossbow bolt
Yeah, I sure needed to take more than one shot in your general direction to kill you.
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>>557693689
>2s is a cost we can't possibly bear
Lmao.
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>>557693419
>not a single piece of armour above 2 anywhere on it
>head is still only 450 combined effective health for light pen vs the ~1100 effective HP of the torso
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>magdoompers
>eruptorniggers
>xbowtards
cyborgs are a faction made for console jeets
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Cyberstan is a few days away from being over, and then it will be another 6-12 month wait for more worthwhile content.
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>>557693419
>3 taps to the head with the diligence
>1 fully charged shot from the purifier or loyalist
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>>557693834
It'll be reused before the end of the month
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>>557693839
>3x ammo needed for "weakspots"
>3x TTK
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>>557693998
it's an alpha commander equivalent you fucking baby
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>>557693834
There's no way Joel doesn't milk at least another week out of Transcendence.
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I like the Vox, but I feel like they should only be present on megafactory planets. I don't want them in the ordinary battles. They should be saved for the big climaxes.
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>Transcendence
We have to get a boss fight out of it, right? Have there been leaks?
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>>557694126
like leviathans are restricted to only appearing on mega-city maps as an operation modifier, most likely so to will vox engines only appear in mega-factories in the future
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>>557694068
Grab your bug enemy equivalent, shove it up your bug ass equivalent, and go back to your bug faction equivalent
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>>557694241
yeah, mechahitler
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>>557693998
Almost like they're supposed to be a cut above the regular chaff units
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>>557694241
Front Man (JOEL) already said they lied. Transcendence will be... another mega factory city with the same spawns and modifiers. Leakers found nothing and the cyborg dogs are only mentioned in name. No actual siege mech exists or model for the dogs
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>>557694293
We already have Devastators and Scout/Rocket Striders, both die to a single/two well placed shots
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>>557690221
Who the fuck is bringing a sniper rifle to a battlefield full of chaff?
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Tried a D10 stealth solo Cyberstan and it was kinda more fun than playing it normally.
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>>557694368
Proof?
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>>557694437
Me. I've gotten the Amendment, Censor and DCS to level 25 since Cyberstan began.
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>>557690221
All DMRs instakill Troopers, Devastators and Radicals, they're objectively superior if you aren't a retard
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>Go to hell and back trying to complete a blitz
>At the extract some fuck ass fagbot shoots a flare
>3 Vox machines get dropped at the extract
>we all die
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SUPER EARTH'S SUPERIOR ACCURACY
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>>557694914
I swear more Vox Engines appear during evac than inside the mega factories themselves
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Imagine if there was Seaf Artillery side objectives on these Cyberstan maps, lol.
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>>557688737
ggs I'm sure nothing bad will come from us killing all those cyborgs 100 years ago
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>>557695173
>permanent defense fortifications on a planet that's been controlled by the enemy for years
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>>557693419
>insta dies to ac/gl
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>>557694974
I'm amazed at the swedish retardation.
Even the most basic anti tank weapons back in 1944 had some sort of sight to adjust for distance but somehow in the future that's just lost knowledge and they put basic bitch red dots on everything or maybe nothing at all like the leveller.
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>>557693834
Its 3 major updates a year faglord, this is 1/3
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>>557694974
>>557695276
Get good
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lobby where
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>>557695007
All the vox engines patrolling inside the fortress despawn and their slots get filled in by dropships.
It's the same logic that causes endless vox to spawn inside the fortress as soon as you kill one, it's just endless spam.
The best strategy is unironically to not kill them and just run away.
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>>557694503
What a fucking tease.
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>>557695439
Pretty sure he did
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>>557695276
you don't understand, a 19th century style rangefinder is simply too expensive to put on every anti-tank weapon. red dots are extremely cheap, you can basically find them lying on the ground after it rains
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>>557694368
what if it's just not in the game yet because they wanna keep it secret? whatever may be on transcendence I mean
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>>557695525
the better strat is to have one guy with a tank go far enough and set up a position just like any normal ATE does. It takes a while but the main gun sniping the voxes and hmg mowing down chaff is a godsend
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>>557688737
ggz frens, this year's flu was made by mossad for me
https://files.catbox.moe/aikwb5.mp4
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>>557695276
u don't need sights, return to caveman throw rock
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>>557651340
d10 bots
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244319198015/76561198204717687
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>>557696178
delete this
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>>557696428
2/4
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>>557696178
what the fuck is going on nigga this shit looks like a jav
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Where the shredder tanks at?
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>>557696606
There isn't enough information in this screenshot to tell us where you are and where you can go, Lohpo.
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>>557696684
you should see how I used to censor my clips for ts game
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>>557683525
>I don't know why I thought of this now, but you reckon every citizen is required to have a Super Truth Display™ in their household?
It's called a Super Phone, it's in their pocket, and they buy it themselves.
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>>557697146
two trucks having sex
two trucks having sex
my muscles
my muscles
involuntarily flex
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>>557697378
>>557697378
>>557697378
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>>557688915
It's the contrarian AT option for people that insist on being special snowflakes. It is undertuned and barely serviceable. At the absolute least they should tighten its shot dispersion so that players aren't at the whims of fate regarding whether or not their low power shot that needs to snipe that hulk visor actually flies in the direction that the player was fucking aiming. They should also tune up the low-power shots so that there is a reason to consider ever using them instead of them simply being the shitty consolation prize for people that blow their load too early. Giving low power shots enough demo force to close a bug hole wouldn't break the game and would be a noticeable quality of life improvement for the weapon.
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>>557684982
it just shows that swedes don't understand what weapons / stratagems are good
the selling point of the warbond is trident, leveller happened to be good on accident because they don't know how to balance stratagems
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>>557686430
just take laser weps and warp pack 4head
just take backpack strats 4head
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>>557696178
What is this shit? Just post without everything blurred out idiot



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