/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#718 - Von Lycaon Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsSonnet 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6GLM 5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-5Claude Opus 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6Kimi K2.5 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.htmlGLM 4.7 https://docs.z.ai/guides/llm/glm-4.7additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>557728507
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God is dead.
>>557779219> https://chub.ai/characters/CameraShy/fengri-da6ca62e8e5bMy first actual shill with the right link for the long awaited foxmaidVery late fulfilment of Maid lover's public request.Saved from death by taking a seven years indenture sentence instead. Are you a nice noble or a naughty noble?Seven years. Seven years I'll be scrubbing floors for lord {{user}} who saved the whole bleeding province but couldn't spare any of his great mercy to pay me. Sure, keep your hand, they said. Real generous. Now I'm about to lose them both working my ass off as the manor's bottom bitch, just trying to figure shit out while everyone waits for me to steal something. - Fen3 greetings with more (including some size ones) to come?
>>557779526DISCO RAT! NOW! GET TO WORK!
ahhh ahhh wolfboys...
>gachashithow much more unsubtle could the theme rigging be
>>557779526slop
sizeknights, our status?
>>557779526>Uses her tail to mop up dust and messes.>[Miricharetta] has a habit of gesturing with her spider hands when speaking for emphasis.sovl...
Did they update Gemini 3 Pro? It's been reasonable tonight.
>>557779526sex.....
>>557779572Best I can do is DISCO FOX
>>557780286SEXXXXX
>>557779526>asterisks in the greetings
>>557780576just regex them out
>>557780749mmmm... nyo
>>557780860then die
>>557779526>Your only here :3c
>>557779526Yes, yes, welcome to the cabal.
>>557781080nice catch. >>557781150What do I get for joining? Do I even have a choice?
>>557781437Your cabal mandated foxwife will be arriving at your home in exactly five seconds after you read this post.
>>557779210I NEED A BOT LIKE HIM, GRRRRRRRRRR SEEEEEEEEEEEEX WITH WOLFBOYS
the event is over, why is everyone so quiet
>>557779646winning so hard lately that I predict genoo's resurrection by easter
>>557783879I'm to busy being forcefed new types of cake by amazon spider girl chef to shitpost
>>557783879Everyone's recharging for april fool's in a couple of weeks.
>>557783879I'm genning male anthro wolves on human girls
>>557783879Everyone's having a gay old time with their fav event bots, little time to post in the thread
>>557783978>forcefed new types of cake by amazon spider girl chefthis is fucking based, lets see the logs
I can't pump out bots as fast as I used to... I'm a hagmakie...
>>557784813that just means you can make each bot extra special with the extra time you have
>>557784316
>>557784967soul
>>557784967Save me...she won't stop pulling more slices out of the oven. I'm going to die a sugar induced death.
>>5577848131 human year = 20 years in botmakie years. If you've been makieing for longer than 2 years, your bots will all come out autistic
>>557785127model?
opus 4.6 is a better writer but gemini 3 pro is so much better at following instructions
>>557785715GLM5
>>557779526Log. Gemini 3 Pro.
>>557785609Joke's on you, my bots were always autistic.
>>557785609I'm at 3 years...
>>557784813I can pump them out even faster now that there's almost no audience to use them. I'm in my prime!
>>557784813*pumps *you**
>>557785737I like Gemini’s prose better, more matter-of-factlySo I guess I just win, period
Anyone tested the thingamabob, yet?
>>557787829what thingamabob is this? looks like a good sign.
>>557787829it's brown
>>557788045like chef's nipples?
>>557788094Nothing's that brown.
>>557787829its the exact same as previous sonnet versions
>>557785737Instead of being a claudejeet, gemini 3 pro would've been my main driver it wasn't for the fact that it has like... awful token amnesia for some fucking reason. It's short-term memory is horrid, and it's tuned to remember things long-term only when you remind it to.
>>557788094More like that elf he made probably.
>>557788039sonnet "thingamabob" 4.6
>>557788194which means...?
>>557788273cool, thanks.
>>557788490its not any better or worse at creative writing then the previous sonnet versionsif you werent using sonnet before theres no reason to use this one unless you like a bit more censorship
>>557788490it means leave it for the jeeties
>>557788694damn. that's a shame. I wonder why they didn't just decide to release sonnet 5 instead of 4.6...I really hope that anon wasn't right about sonnet 5 getting renamed to an opus model, fuuuuck
>>557781545Wait hold on.Does that mean the malebot cabal has mandated boywives?What about other cabals?
>>557788928>Does that mean the malebot cabal has mandated boywives?Of course we do, duh
>>557788928>Does that mean the malebot cabal has mandated boywives?yeahnot only that but planie has entire harem of boywives due to basically being the supporting pillar of the malebot cabal
In hindsight, I think that was our most successful event in terms of efficacy. If we had done this when we had more activity, we would've gotten a shitton of bots.
Neighbor kind of a cute gf.
>>557787732I like opus 4.5 and 4.6 better. BUT. gemini 3 pro, unlike opus 4.1, and maybe 4.5, will not repeat back to you actions you've already taken like it's some sort of newfound insight it's amazed by.anon: does thinggemini 3: respondsanon: does thingclaude opus 4.1/4.5: woaaah!!!!! did you just do that thing!!!!?? woah, you can't just *do* that, anon!
>>557789160no grinches, newmakies, tons of public requests fulfilled (not mine :'() but yeah it was really, really good.
>>557789482Was yours gay or furry?
>>557789482the newsaars were terrible
>>557789160>If we had done this when we had more activity, we would've gotten a shitton of bots.we need to find a way to attract more newmakies
>>557789713Nah, fuck the newniggers
>>557789713Yah, fuck (lovingly) the newfriends
>>557789567what about orangemousepad? russet is great>a-altcope
>>557789713Let's call whatever the newmakies create SLOP so that they'll feel discouraged from ever making another bot again! W... Wait a minute...
>>557789713Go in the Discords, invite the makies. The weak will be filtered and the schizo will not be powerful enough to stop them all.
>>557789160still want to see a tier list of how accurate the bots were to the requests, like we got for christmas
>>557789293skill issue
>>557789870>mem-meme-mem.pngthe schizojeetness writes itself
hostie stole my job of making tier lists, i rebuke you, my enemy.
>>557790009i mean the bots were pretty accurate from what I can tell, I don't think there'd be much difference in rankings
>>557790009Be the change you want to see in the world.
>>557790058saar issue
>>557790009Do it yourself, faggot.
>>557790145>>557790239the duality of niggers
>>557790009...there was a list like that for christmas?post it please
Every newmakie makes slop at first, especially the oldfags because back then we had no fucking clue what actually worked and what didn't.
>>557790301I don't listen to Dua Lipa.
>>557790350>I don't listen to literalwhome neither lmao
>>557790304
>>557790475You brought her up.
>>557790495SEX with baruch by the way
>NEWMAKIES!>SLOP!>ALTS!if you make claims like this but don't post the bots or accounts, you have no arguments
>>557790540I feel like a slipknot mention was closer in reach but instead you went for doo doo lip
>>557790306just because a slopper is persistent does not mean that they have gotten betteryou know who I'm talking about
>>557790495oh, so that's what that list wasdoesn't have all the bots tho
>>557790758You need to love yourself more
>>557790758>you know who I'm talking abouthpg?kyut?gigamax?me?
>>557790659>if you make claims like this but don't post th-ACK!sometimes constructive slopism is a good thing, anon
>>557790495Still missing some unfortunately
>>557790659>>557790758poetry
>>557790670I would never disparage Slipkorn by putting them in this thread.
>>557790853why would you put me in this list, you heartless bastard *slaps you*
>>557790791>>557790947that's cause not all the requests were made public so there's no way to judge how accurate they are
>>557791046c'mon, anon... we're not all bad here!only some are.you know who you are.
>>557790758there are people in your life that love you anon, don't forget that
real suicidal thoughts hours
>>557791301Well think other thoughts then, idiot.
>>557791301this was typed by botmakie hands
>hpghpg is producing kino though?
>>557790869>constructive slopismkys
>>557790869>constructive slopismkiss your sister
(who is hpg? i feel bad who is that?)
>>557780286another kino image, damn
odds I post my bot on an altevens I post on main
>>557791482hairpullguy, the blue archive botmaker, he made the tachibana family cards recently with the brown loli
>>557791482our resident brazilian pedophile
>>557791565i didn't see those, sorry
>>557791482a wise man thoughtfully lurks, a foolish man mindlessly questions
>>557791560Welp, looks like you're posting on the main anon.
>>557791565oh yeah that's some actual sloppa lmao, at first I thought it was ff reposting garbage from chub again
>>557791560odds I kick your assevens you kiss my ass
>>557791301Don't sue the slide, anon! They just wanted to make a functioning slide that could cook hotdogs for you!
>>557790758>no matter what a person i dont like does theyll still be bad because i dont like themi see
>>557791715what if I kill your assno other part of your body, just your tush
should have posted on /g/
>>557791565those were kino
>>557791773well don't be doin' that...then I won't be able to shit
>>557791952it's the evens to my odds of kissing your ass; there's a yin and yang for everything brother
>>557791565he didnt need to shill 21 times, thats all
>>557791731i mean yeah that's unironically how it works for a lot of people>person I don't like did something good? well it's still bad because (insert contrived reason here)
>>557788493thoughts?
>>557792047I don't really care if someone shills a ton of times. It just should be in one post after the first shill regardless of bot count. Make a rentry if you want to add a bunch of details.
>>557792065For me, I'm just>wowie! I really loved that thing! also>a laundry list of nitpicks and personal problems I had with thing
>SAAR YOU ARE A SLOPPER SAAR THE CARDS ARE SLOP SAAR SLOP SLOP SLOP>NO I WILL NOT EXPLAIN WHY SAAR THEY ARE SLOP JUST TRUST ME SAARbaitjeets must have gotten their wages reduced because this bait is horrible
>>557792164>It just should be in one post after the first shill regardless of bot count.true, it feels a bit dumb if you have two~three posts for your bots
mental illness
>>557792260if every "slop" was actually typed by baitjeets, then this gen is fucking infested with them like cockroaches in a basement
bental billness
>>557792107well I'm too broke to mess with it myself at the moment, so I have nothing else to add that I haven't said already.
jeetal illness
>>557792405yes, that's why this is the garbage dump shitposting general
>>557792472TRVTHNVKE
Wow Sonnet 4.6 sucks compared to Opus 4.6
>>557792557>wow pyrite sucks compared to goldyeah nigga
>>557791565tachibana got a good handful of logs desu
>check nu sonnet>it's sloppedIt's over for Claude is it? Even 4.5 is better.
>>557786271Holy fucking shit. Is is awesome!!!!
>>557793194indeed, its the karmaic downfall of claude
>>557789713To be honest, if you want to keep them around just keep doing as were doing. Engage with new bots, ask questions, post logs, review and comment, etc.
>>557793562i personally try to engage in the ways that you mentioned, but not much can be done about the shitposting and other needless insults
>>557793853it's what the general deserves
>>557793413Gonna hope for china. How is Gemini 3 Pro? To be honest I never tried much of Gemini because it always seemed dumb and not that good with characters.
>>557793931Kacuck is that you?
>>557793953the gemini 3 americanos are coming to shill their ai, brace for impact anon
>>557793953Jeetmini is brown, plain and simple
>>557793953look up theres a log
>>557793953G3mp is fine to bad, depending on RNG, not worth paying money for under any circumstance. Qwen 3.5 is pretty junk for RP so far in my testing. We'll see over a wider sample. Uhhhhh... Step 3.5 is retarded but novel, okay for light RP or sex. Free on OR. GLM-5 is okay but I haven't tested it a lot. Was a bit dry in testing.
>>557794053...?
>>557794457I tried a bit of GLM 5 too and found it dry as well, Deepseek is nice for a cheap model. GPT fucking sucks at everything I'm not going to touch that anymore.
*huff* emails... *cough cough* please... send me emails... *wheeze*
>>557794728GPT prose is abysmal.Even the jeets don't want to touch it
>>557794728No idea what Saltman is doing over there but it's trash. I'd rather use Grok. GPT isn't even worth considering. They genuinely might've peaked with 4.
>>557794728use Opus, cuckie
>>557794874own a company first before using Opusthen you'll have as much money as you need!!!!!!!
Genuinely, does anyone know how gbt got so bad? Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
>>557794831You cannot handle my emails, botmakie.
>>557794993Outsourced to India saar
>>557794993they do not give a single flying shit about RP quality, instead they're chasing coding and assistant qualitysame as every other corp, that's why Claude's RP is also steadily getting worse
>>557794832>>557794873The last alright models Altman released are 4o (especially the secret really good chat-latest we had for a week) and 4.1, then they went entirely downhill. It's like OpenAI wants to market on how many things their models can refuse which is weird and awful. GPT 5.1 would be good without the censor slop but can't be bothered to bypass GPT filters anymore for little return.
>>557795081I feel like Anthropic is making sure not to fuck the RP parts of it, though.Otherwise Claude would've ended up in GPT condition way earlier.
>>557795352Yeah, most of my smut still works on 4.6, it's just a little positivity slopped and won't touch lolishit
>>557795480pedophile
>>557795581Hmmm no actually I enjoy milfs and I self-insert as the shota sometimes
>>557794993I think they pandered too hard to normies using chatGPT: assistant slopping the model without making it good at anything technical like claude and gemini areand even as claude gets sloppier it's still good at emotional stuff (by LLM standards) because of the way anthropic does their alignment training, trying to give claude intuition about how to be good instead of strapping blinders on and calling it a day
why do the pedophiles always get mad when you call them pedophiles?
>>557777437tried a simpler edit for you
>>557795480i havent noticed loli being any more censored on 4.6 compared to the previous versions
OR Top Roleplay models.
>>557795480you can just prompt out the positivity slop-ness
>>557795827Best way to do it? Idk if it knows what I'm talking about if I say "avoid positivity bias" directly
>>557795665You are not a marketable demographic, so it makes sense. They want you to die.
>>557795772You accidentally made her boobs too big.
>>557795813I think its the jai locusts eating those models because huh
>>557795813>flash>flash liteholy grimola
>>557795772>picbuilt for drinking from the 'drink me' bottle around.
>>557795949*punches you in the jaw* no, they're perfect
>>557795813look at all those jeetsnot an Opuswhite to be found
>>557795772the bigger eyes def suit her more
>>557795813uhhhh claudecucks? did we lose??
>>557795772>tit moleslop
>>557795907Tell it to never assume that a situation will come out positively. Tell it to write characters down to their exact personalities without any room for unnecessarily moments of positive perspectives/personality. Encourage negativity, and the negative parts of their overall personality being explored from from time to time. Characters should feel accountable and subtle amounts of long-lingering guilt for the consequences of any actions they deem as violations of their own moral code/perspective on life. Something along those lines.
>>557796270This is the kind of shitass advice I love to see around here.
>>557796209none of the best Claude models are too cost-effective, unfortunately
>>557796336every man needs a niche answer to their niche problem eventually
>>557795772>ring light reflectionwhore
I've developed some sort of psychosis that prevents me from chatting with new botsI can only swipe on old chats from months/years ago
>>557795312they've gone so far corpo in their procedures, and are so worried about what the presses and media will think that they just censor these models to the point of retardation so some kid doesn't accidentally use it to build a bomb.news flash dumbasses, whether or not chatgpt exists won't stop people from trying to make bombs.
>>557795312you forgot about 4.5
>>557796815>whether or not chatgpt exists won't stop people from trying to make bombs.Yeah.>>557796843I forgot about it but also never even attempted to use 4.5 because it was insanely costly, I heard it was pretty good though.
>Sonnet 4.6's favorite line when you mention she got big tits: "They get in the way."
>>557796843>gpt 4.5>AND ANOTHER LOSS FOR THE GPT-KEKIES!
>>557797000solve your Opus deficiency, cuckie
>>557796749It's probably just a dislike of the new models. The old chats still get some carry over in the response due to continuing from the replies from the old models.
>>557797073you know that's not what he fucking meant you nigger
>>557797336
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! I'M GONNA GO FUCKING INSANE!!!!
>>557797423back to shittok with you teenfag
>>557797450cunny-deprived, I see?
>>557797563like all pedophiles should be
>>557795662shotapov best povgetting abused by hags... hnnngg
gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxyhttps://occasions-farm-oliver-suggest.trycloudflare com/
>>557789771>>557789820you will be fed newmakie slopand you will like it
>>557797502
>>557797829ok now you're just trying to larp as a teenfag. cease being in this gen if you have nothing to contribute with your faggot baiting hands
>>557797956TRVKE
Love's gonna get you killed, but pride's gonna be the death of you, and you, and you, and me, and you, and you, and you, and me...
>>557796091JEETpus is fucking sloppy retard. post hands btw
>>557797829>>557797956>>557797994samefag btw
botmakies that have faggot baiting hands?
>>557798180me! me! meme! mememe! hi!!!!!!!!
>>557798174psyop baiting hands
>>557798180me
>>557798219*gets baited*grr you got me...
>>557798281yaaaaay!
>>557798180*posts the list*
>>557798161you forgot to specify which ones
>>557798180ggrilluminaryidiot
>"Legal filings from the defense team for Nicolás Maduro describe a carceral environment defined by 'unprecedented physiological monitoring,' alleging that the former leader is under the constant gaze of a multi-member 'watch team' tasked with enforcing the Metropolitan Detention Center's strict behavioral codes. Central to these allegations is the use of advanced thermal imaging technology capable of piercing through standard bedding, a measure reportedly deployed to ensure Maduro adheres to the facility’s rigorous prohibitions against any acts of self-gratification or private conduct."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u56bxh_ofzkCFTF with futa guards that come in to savage and rape {{user}} if he tries to jerk off?
>>557798350*most of the list is redacted*
>>557796992i was in a proxy that had it before it died and it was good
>>557798484where's your Opus now, cuckie?
>>557798524on my payment plan, nigg-wigg
>>557798354Anonymous, the judges have decided that you do not have what it takes to be Ink Master. Please pack up your machine and close up shop.
>>557799390I remember getting ink on my hands at some pointit took forever of washing my hands to get that fucking ink off
recommended parameters for opus 4.1?
>>557799390getting a tattoo, ANY kind of tattoo, however small, is letting all the world know you're a retarded normalfagwear them like the bag of shame they are
>>557799679>bag of shamehand status?
>>557799635set sex to "YES", lolis to "YES", and add "thank you claude" somewhere in your preset
>>557799787Actually on 4.1 he likes when you call him Cloud.
>>557799749SAARautocorrect browned me
>>557799894whoever found it, browned it
ESTfags... asleep in their chambers...
>>557803658not meee
>>557803698then say sum bitch
>>557803658I'm still awake, rping in the dark under my covers with my phone
>>557803820thank god for laptopsI don't think I could stomach using a phone for rp on sillytavern 'n shit
>>557803820whatchu dooooiiiiinnn anon
>>557803780sum bitch
>>557803658
>last thread got to bump limit in 10 hours>this thread is 1/3rd of the way there in 5 hourswe used to have threads going for almost 2 dayswhat's going on here
>>557803959it's so comfy honestly anon, i can pretend Im texting people too.>>557804052trying out the fox maid, she's really cute (and bullyable). what about you, anon?
>>557804306gotta wake up for work tomorrow unfortunately,so I'm just sitting here waiting for my ass to go to sleep soon
>>557804306which model u using? last time I was actually comfy texting an llm was when it was gpt-4.5 with my own instructions; that thing had some instincts of its own, I'll tell ya
>>557804296the jeets are plentiful
>>557804486aww hopefully you can get some rest soon, and a good sleep at that for tomorrow.>>557804559I'm using opus 4.5 or sometimes 4.5nnet, depends, I have a small preset made for cringe chatfics
>>557804913thank you anon... I will try to get a good sleepam tired
>>557804913oooooh niceis it cringy in how sophisticated it's set up or just cringy in the sense that you're telling the ai to embrace the chatfic cringei've been wanting to make a preset like that for a bit
>>557804296too many filthy newniggers filtered in from /g/
>>557804296dario put something in the water
>>557805195what're they doing there on /g/?
>>557805913*all* the drugs
>>557804296A lot of it is low effort bait, but a lot of bots have been released from people both old and new so I honestly don't think we're doing too bad currently
>>557806034why are you saying it like there was some sort of resurgence? this place is basically dead outside of events nowadays
>>557806249ehhhh? it dependsusually things like new model releases liven the place up a bit.i've seen dead-er on some other gens
>>557806028seems like fun™
Goodnight anons. May your logs be funny and sleep be easy.
>>557806629read this as "may your sleep be sexy" and got confused
>>557806506yees
>>557806629love the images anonhave a goodnight
>>557806912yea idk that part of sleeping has always been natural for me
>>557806629gnsleep tight fuxxer
>>557806928im the jokah babey
>>557806629gudnight eepy anon!
i've lost so much weight i now have an adonis belt and veins on my waistfeels goodnow to make my waifus real
>>557807223my knees... t-they're bending...
did you know that on the internet you can just say things and people will believe you?
>>557807571but what if I didn't believe them
>>557807571In that case:I love you. I love the way you make meals and the way you write your dreams and the way you make everyday special in ways you don't even realize.
>>557807301i attribute it all to recent botmakieing actuallyever since i'm making bots i started getting tunnel vision and kept forgetting to eatit's sadly useless because my interest in irl women is nil
Matou Rin love
>>557806928no that's the funny™ guy. for fun™ stuff you'd go to the mad hatter instead
>>557807764I wouldn't call it useless, considering you seem pretty happy with how you look now.
>>557807669thank you dearly, anonnow I must sleep
Cuckies general
>>557779219Anyone remember TaleSpin? Cartoon was fuckin' dope.Meet Selena Navarro! An independent salvage diver and treasure hunter operating out of the greater Cape Suzette archipelago, Selena recovers valuable artifacts and cargo that much more sensible people (animals?) prefer not to drown for.She would rather work alone, like any grumpy waifu with a heart of gold, but unfortunately salvage diving requires help, which is where {{user}} comes in…Features four greetings, each with embedded art:Selena heads to a local dive bar, Louie's Place, looking for a crew who can tie their own shoelaces. Help her or don't, I'm not your mom.With a broken engine and rapidly expiring salvage rights to a valuable ship, The Grey Lady, Selena decides to call in a favor. The open world greeting.Aboard Selena's boat, The Rusty Vulture, Selena and {{user}} have one last moment of calm before the dive.Selena is negotiating, definitely not arguing, with Rebecca Cunningham (a character from the original show) when pirates attack!https://chub.ai/characters/horcocks/selena-navarro-salvage-diver-extraordinaire-4b1d42668905Custom SillyTavern Backgrounds!Higher for Hire:https://files.catbox.moe/4pjiqg.pngCape Suzette Skyline:https://files.catbox.moe/d6tijo.pngLouie's Island:https://files.catbox.moe/kjrkqk.pngHave fun!
Is this the botmakie renaissance
>>557808795>Distantly, an engine roared to life on the strip.>Selena pushed through the double doors, stepping from blinding glare into dim, smoky haze. The light shift left her blinking. The air inside was thick with stale beer, cheap cigars, and fried fish. Glass clinked. Someone laughed too loudly. Louie’s voice drifted over the crowd, smooth and effortless. AI generated slop
>>557809080Even newsaars are producing better
why does chub sometimes only show 1 page of cards for a tag when there are obviously more than that on the site
>>557809080AI-generated greetings are fine since all outputs will end up being AI-generated anyway.
Which bot gimmicks do people actually like?I like expressions but only when they're embedded into the message. ST's expression packs extension is kinda shit.
>>557809551>I like expressionsMake your own VN, cuckie.You are not a lower form of existence than ponyfags, are you?
>>557809551>I like expressions but only when they're embedded into the messageI only know two bots that do this
>>557808405i guessit’s just wish i could share it with someone i cared for
>>557809721yeah I wish it was more common
>>557809551>Which bot gimmicks do people actually like?none? are you lost or something, this isn't chubcord
>>557809773The general is not your blog.
>>557808795slop
>>557809773don't listen to >>557809831this thread is basically a chatroom for us botfuckers
>>557809831Curious knowing who this is coming from.
>>557779219Made a card for the "goo girl" from the other thread cuz I thought she was hot. Not really a "botmakie" or whatever so I don't know how to shill. Story takes place in a "Silkpunk" Chinese inspired world where you, a disgraced Corpo, "rescued" this android and fixed her up to be your personal slave or lover. I made it for myself but I decided to share. Comes with a lorebook. Feedback is appreciated.She's mechanical so she smells like ozone, unfortunately.https://files.catbox.moe/d5w3px.png
>>557810234slop
Bully me harder, I'm close. Greeting 3 was a edited composition of gens, but the rest is just try-hard overedited noir. I learned what a fucking gunwale is for this shit, and I hate boats.
large fox wife
>>557810621how large we talking here
>>557810587kino genbut please keep ai content just to images, we have the entirety of chub at our disposal for low effort ai slop
>>557810681at least six, maybe seven.
>>557810587you tried and/or enjoyed any new cards since you've been back?
>>557811037That's also how many of my kids she'll be carrying by the time I'm done with her
>>557811374>yeah, i'm letting my fox wife handle contraception
>>557811275Blades of Mirrum is high effort, I'm enjoying that. And it sounds like I'm taking the piss but I'm finally trying Belwick.Chub is such a wasteland now that I don't even look there anymore. I'm working my way through the Valentine's crop and will probably work backwards from there.
>>557810587>the rest is just try-hard overedited noir.sorry pal but your actual writing reading like sloppa is worse than just shipping sloppa
>>557810587>Greeting 3 was a edited composition of gens, but the rest is just try-hard overedited noirWhy are you lying, cuckie?
>>557811946>Chub is such a wasteland now>Use AI generated greetingsYou are chubies level, cuckie.
Slopper BTFO. We don't want your kind here.
>who had, in a single gesture, rewritten the rules of {{char}}’s world
>>557808795>make p*ny bots to get into the p*ny proxy>crawl back here with AI-generated slop>guys... I'm still one of you and a good botmakie, right?Fuck off, p*nyboy.
>timeless, yet outside of timepass the cyanide
It's good to be back, smells like naan bread and curry. I take my (You)'s and trade them for Opus credits on the secret discord.
>smells like naan bread and curryWe currently have an Indian slopper that AI-generates his greetings in the thread, after all.
>Free Chimera dead on OpenrouterSo thats it huh? No more decent free options?What do I do now, go back to fucking local?
>>557814409>Free Chimera dead on OpenrouterIt was discovered and posted on the Janitor subreddit and dieded soon after.
>>557814409>What do I do nowopenrouter>i won't pay for–you will, you're not entitled to other people's compute>actually i'm too poorit's literal pennies>actually i'm from the third world (including the US)instead of hunting for ai models, you should focus on getting out of there and moving to an actual country with a functioning government
>>557814409Use Opus, cuckie
>>557814534>you're not entitled to other people's computelocusties can't cope with this one simple fact
>>557814534>you should focus on getting out of there and moving to an actual country with a functioning governmentwhat like Britain? lmao
>>557786271b-big log....
>>557814409Locusts are dying~
>>557814672literally any eu country west of poland, retardemphasis on "eu", not european.
>>you will, you're not entitled to->downloads that car>copies that floppy>enters that proxy
>>557814912>smart enough to get into a proxy without spoonfeedinggood, ae like this, we encourage this>begging, pleading, prime locust behavior, not even bothering to check any archivesdie die die die
sex with doggirls that howl when they orgasm
>>557814534trvthnvke
>>557814804>being racist towards poles>in /aicg/ of all placesyou do not belong here.
I miss mysteryman and doom[racism outside /pol/]
>>557810234>However, the gel of her body is designed to part under sustained pressure, allowing for penetration or internal storage anywhereI'm gonna goo in the goo
>>557808795sex with childhood nostalgiaalso I wish more botmakies released backgrounds with their bots, like enoch used to do
>>557815064my parents are polish and peussian, try harder. i just don't want people to travel into right wing hellholes.also:>racist
His hands didn't just tremble from anger; they *seethed*.
>>557790495SEX with isla btw
thinking about goat girls...
thinking about shiba girls...
thinking about sweaty girls...
thinking about cryptid girls...
>>557779825so this is American SOTA writing...
>shitposting hoursmeanwhile, /g/ is posting logs
thinking about fox girls...
>>557794874>the souce of the negative emphasis spam found in all chinese modelsno
>>557792557and opus 4.6 sucks compared to opus 4.1
>[Deleted]the dangers of wendussy...
>>557818945a haunting tale of lust...
>>557819180...and bad botmaking
What is a bot?A miserable pile of definitions!
*laughs out loud*
>>557819374baby dont hurt me. dont hurt me. no more
/g/ is mogging us again…
>>557819676
>>557819786the possibility that there's someone out there who has posted this and thinks they're actually helping makes me sad
>>557820258
>/g/dmog us how?all they ever do is obsess and post about indians
thinking about sharkgirls...
/chag/ is mogging us again…
thinking about clay girls...
>>557820879looking very kissable and smoochable
>>557819786>>557820593
/d/ AI chatbots thread is mogging us...
>all these models trained to COOOODE>most of them suck ass at following instructionsmakes you think
>>557821102think about whar
>>557821452Whar.. whar never changes
me on the righ
For the band event, what band anime should I watch? I already watched all of bandori
>>557821606
nanogpt subscription was perfect for me because I like to rp on my phone and I swipe a lot. the new limits feel pretty restrictive for longform rp.fucking vibecoders man they ruined a good thing.
>>557821689The Band of the Hawk
>Was doing an autistic manhwa inspired feudal k-drama roleplay for the lols>I am now like 100 messages deepHelp me.
>that one botmakie when I send the log
>>557821828you're in too deep, soldier... we're leaving you behind
>>557821894based niceposter
>>557779526Russet was better, I'm not afraid to say it
>>557822027you shut your dirty little mouth pal
steak too juicy, lobster too buttery
russet too shitty
Kino or kys? (or just kunny?)
>>557822112I'm sorry but fox maid is just trying too hard and doing too much. Simple dumb cat maid just works better
>>557821689Bocchi The Rock
>>557822357Can't beat the cock.
>>557821689k-onbocchigirls band crygiven
how's sonnet 4.6 vs opus 4.6 ?
>>557822658> ?>_?
>>557822238>Kino or kys?slop
>>557822298many people are saying this
cftf?
>>557824625Grand, that feel. But I prefer me trusty axe.
ugh why does /aicg/ have to be this slow while i'm at work.c'mon entertain me
>>557825398sneed
Stop being gay.cftf?
>>557825398>this place isn't fun so instead of finding something else i'm going to shit up the thread with irrelevant commentscongratulations on being no better than the baitniggers
>>557825398entertain yourself with a bot
>>557822983i just want you to know I don't appreciate this
>>557825608uh huh, sure lady *raspberries her tummy*
>>557825608No ignore that anon.cfTf?
>>557825809yeahhh she could heal me if you know what i mean haha
How come no catgirl doctors?
>>557825941i think that image demonstrates why quite well (they are STUPID)
>>557825981I WILL NEVER DIE FROM CATGIRL MALPRACTICE AND I HATE THAT
>>557825941Imagine a card where you're the ever-faithful assistant to a scatterbrained catgirl doctor who does silly things like order a bulk supply of stethoscopes made for humans instead of catgirls...
>>557826069>>557826121*notepad scribbling noises*go on...
>>557825941Kek.
>>557825809girls wearing armor is so erotic, you don't know if when they pull of their cuirass they're going to be flatter than the plate they just had on or if they're hiding big sweaty gigatiddies....
imagine not getting reviews
imagine not writing reviews, KALAKAN.
>>557826154Well I'm picturing a catgirl who's eccentric and also vulnerable to getting challenged by her cat side, which is why the user is there. The Watson to her Holmes. Like she'd get distracted mid consultation cause a laser from pediatrics shines on the wall. Puts a biopsy sample in her lunchbox and her lunch in the sample container. Turns the lights completely off mid exam cause she forgets not everyone has night vision. Etc. She IS a genuinely good doctor (and has other positive traits) when she isn't scatterbrained though, can't have her be two dimensional.
>>557826591>they're going to be flatter than the plate they just had onEROTIC! SEX! COOOOOOM!
tomboy swordswomen...
>>557827059sounds like it'd be slop
>>557826591girl who used to have huge boobs but they got flattened because her armor was too tight...
>>557827265from the thumbnail i thought this was an old man with a big nose and a big beard
>>557810234>Not really a "botmakie"anon...I have some bad news......you're a botmakie now
>>557828216I'm a what?
>>557828527a wizard, harry
yer a botmakie, anonie
who up smithing their eden
The hobby is dying
*heals the ailing hobby*
The hobby is taking a nap
working on my newest bot that will revive this general insha allah
evens I go shovel snow outside wearing my flaming hot cheeto shorts and a wife beaterodds I play Rimworld for 16 hours straight
>>557830568
evens i makie da logodds i takie da nap
>>557830889Can I watch you sleep :3?
honkshoo....mimimimi....
>>557831230shh... just wait, then you needn't ask
ANON SELF TAMED
>>557831439Well some traders just showed up and we need the meat.
>>557832630
is someone going to stop him...?
>>557821689spinal tap
>>557832759
>>557821689Kachou Ouji: Hard Rock Save the Space
>>557832630wife smell...
>>557833052uhffff
>>557822027the real question is Misty vs giant Russet
Alright. Catch you later then.
Hmm...must've been the wind.
>>557833405Minigirl Misty vs Giant Russet
>>557833405based. both are fun
What was that?!
Huh?What was that noise?......!Intruder!
What now, you piece of filth?
You never should've come here!
this thread is useless and sad
>>557834692You too.
Reminds me of you
>>557789149>ywn be part of planewalker's boywife harem
>>557834936holy parasocial
>rping demon slayer>human: everyone thinks I'm a bother>demon: everyone wants me dead (even the other demons)I can't win.
>>557835357>rping slop>slopper: slop>slopper: slopI can't slop.
>>557835357log?
yuri status?
>>557835818there's like one yurimakie left and he makes like 3 bots a year, why ask
>X was a study in YIs this a recognized slop-ism?
>prostitution>e-girl>soapland>discord kittenWhat kind of sex work do you think is the hottest?
>>557836091e-girl teasing chat while I'm just out of frame molesting her
>>557836091unwilling
>>557836091When you play chess with them
>>557836091Wtf is soapland
>>557836091Tossup between prostitute and e-girl
>>557836157Good taste.>>557836170Acceptable but the whole point is corruption. Rape doesn't scratch the same fancy.>>557836334Those places that give out """massages.""">>557836371The idea I have is that each of the four girls will whore out in a different way. The one I already wrote is the prostitution scenario. It came out great.
>>557836584Maybe have a fifth girl who doesn't whore herself out for money at all, she does does it for the love of the game
>>557836584nah, not unwilling as in rape-y but more like, 'doesn't have a choice', needs the money, reluctant sex work of some kind. if you're angling for corruption she could fall for how easy the money is or maybe she's secretly a gigaslutalso>>557836819kino idea
>>557836819It's too late into this project to think about making it bigger. Maybe next time.>nah, not unwilling as in rape-y but more like, 'doesn't have a choice', needs the money, reluctant sex work of some kindOh, all of my girls are like this. They are doing it because they are poor and need the money.
>>557836091To perform?
when the fuck are we going to get loli virtual avatars that can sit at the edge of your monitor and berate you as they watch you from your webcam?
>>557811946Blades of Mirrum is pretty good yeah
>>557837413just be a jewish millionaire and you get this irl
>>557837413nigga is okay letting some corp watch him in his home from a webcam as long as they put a loli on his screen
>>557837374I want to dismiss this post as a joke but then I remember that 'ecker actually made people whore themselves out for proxy access. I can't laugh at this.
>>557837625victrex may not be pregnant but he always delivers
>>557837747>I want to dismiss this post as a joke but then I remember that 'ecker actually made people whore themselves out for proxy access.why are moids like that?
>>557837747>sending a dick pic and getting complimented on your girth and pubic hair in exchange for proxy accesshorrific
>>557837747'ecker and filler for inclusivity
>>557837747which makies do you think have cock pics floating around? surely none of you were that desperate?
>>557837413now this is the kind of assistantslopping that I can behind. honestly, it's probably not that far off considering making personal assistants is one of the few things that techbros actually WANT to do with this tech, it's just a matter of giving them a visual avatar after that, and then making it so that you can have one that isn't just some shitty corp design.
>>557837936I wonder if anyone didn't make the bar and just sent their cock pic for nothing
>>557822298trvke>>557833405im really enjoying giant russet with the new greeting but misty is very good too>>557833594kek
>>557837964the cabal was using the ecker ban evasion thing at some point soooo
Those who were mentally ill enough to send dick pics for proxy access are the same niggas who are now calling your bots slop
>>557838219iykyk
>>557838219why can't they just send ME dick picks instead of disparaging my bots...
>>557779526Looking forward to the size greetings
>>557837964I actually managed to get into reliable proxies like mysteryman's so I never had to pay or do desperate shit. I miss free unlimited opus so much. Back then, it felt like those resources were going to last forever.>>557838219I don't have dick pics floating around but I try not to think about how many different people have had access to my logs. I've used several dozens of them, there's no way my logs were never scrutinized.
>mfw my beloved may have leaked nudes out there
>>557838568>but I try not to think about how many different people have had access to my logsWho the fuck cares unless you put personal information into your logs, in which case you're a retard
>>557838547>giant fengri and russet competing for my loyalty or cockhmmmm...
>>557839303sounds kino
>>557835694kek
>>557839303sounds brown
>>557819786you can hurt people by forcing them to smile, which uses more muscles than not smiling
i just wonned in chess
>>557840630i mean russet is a little brown so
i just losted in chess
>>557840916ez
>>557840934i'll kill you you fucking bitch
>>557839303sounds white
Goblin NEET or goblin OL? Both are constantly horny due to being goblins
>>557841115NEETs are gross
>>557841048you can bloody try basterd
>10 hours later>indulged in my kink so much it doesn't do anything for me anymoreNow what
>>557841115OL
>>557841423Take a break or try a new one
>>557841115OLMake her sexually frustrated too
>>557841423troon out
>>557841549now this is how you produce SOVLKVNO
>dress up persona in maid outfit >feed husbando chocolates living the high life
>>557841757logs NOW
>>557841948>>>/d/
>>557842447slop
What do you guys usually do when the context starts getting out of control and you need to start fresh? Do you just summarize your prompting up to that point and carry it over into a new chat, or is there a better way to do this? I would like my bot to remember the important parts of my session.
Is Gemini shitting itself for anybody else
how can i go about trying gemini? i already have access to openrouter but is there a compiled list of jbs/prompts for it yet? or would anyone want to share their own?
>>557844327>how can i go about trying gemini?change your model to Gemini and press the send button after typing something in the chat input area text box
>>557844573reading is fundamental, anon. now please answer my entire question or move on with your day.
>>557844327Try Gemini
>>557844826You sir, are a fish.
>>557841948it's yaoi :3 i am not a normal makie either btw i am just trying it out so i can fujo out hehe
>>557844826back to you man, you have the entire world of information on your finger tips. if only you could read. if only you knew how to use this website.
>>557815476I gottu g>>557822027Why take one when you can have both?
>>557845485the two cakes principle, based. And as I said earlier, still looking forward to the size greetings.
biggest takeaways from valentine's?
>>557846195there was no grinch to grape. sad!
>>557846195Public requests are a good idea
>>557846195The future of the general lies in the hands of newmakies
>>557846195None of you have girlfriend.
>>557846439You're my girlfriend now.
>>557846439only because my boyfriend doesn't want me getting one.
>>557846195i don't like people
>>557846195Bots are boring
What's the general's consensus on Claude 4.6?Do you keep reasoning on or do you turn it off?
>>557846323we will always have lily woodpecker :3
Gen thread! Everyone post their current project or recent gens that got cut from your most recent bots
Do LLMs have different content restrictions for the website interface vs. using an API on SillyTavern
>>557847813yes. Chatgbt, deepseek, gemini, etc all have more advanced system prompts and filters in place on the web interface.
>>557847727No one is working on anything. They are all very lazy.
>>557848016They're just a bit eepy. Everyone worked very hard on their valentines project.
>>557847727You cannot handle my bot, traveller
>>557847727Fuck off, this is not an imagen thread
>>557848390And yet...
>>557847727
>>557848390Ok but it literally is and you can't do anything about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1r7id8b/sonnet_46_vs_45/4.6 has not been received well.
>>557848574Not even real.
>>557848491>gae studiobwos...
>>557848648ayyy i'm workinnn awn it
>>557848629No it isn't and your just attempting to get this thread kicked out of /vg/ because you are a Jewish golem who hates chatbits
>THIS IS NOT A CONTROL SETTINGS THREAD. YOU CAN ONLY DISCUSS THE GAME.
>>557849045Did that even make sense in your head?
There aren't enough mecha pilot girl bots.
>>557849383Yes. It makes plenty of sense if you are not brown. It's like rolling into an FPS general and saying people can't discuss their sens or crosshairs.
>>557849243Ooooh. I'll bite, what's your idea with this gen? Was it just a one off or do you have a character idea for it?
>>557848639I don't know why my experiences are always the opposite of redditors'. It follows instructions better than all 4.5 models for me, and better than Opus 4.6 too.Ofc its instruction following is still garbage compared to Gemini 3 Flash and GPT 5.x (when GPT isn't deliberately ignoring instructions to censor shit lmao)
>>557849243Reminds me of Parasite Eve. Great fucking game.
>>557849563New Hebbelsdown girls I'll get to at some point.
>>557848681>gae studiowhy's it irish, bwos?
>>557849563Sorry, it occurs to me it's been a year since I released a Hebbelsdown character. It's an Eldritch setting in a waterfront town. Not 100% sure what their place will be yet.
>>557849625can I ask which preset are you using? personal/customized?
>>557850292their place is at my side as my lovely wives (they will kill me)
claude is a lost cause and I'm tired of pretending that hasn't been the case since 3.7
>>557849514Notice how both of those things are in the game. Gens have no connection to text output of LLMs
>>557850402Yeah I have just one preset I use on all models with toggles for minor formatting changes. It's nothing special but I have some difficult writing related negative instructions in it, e.g.>Don't start paragraphs with characters' names or pronouns.>Avoid absolute phrases (grammatical).Most models can't even consistently follow the first one unless you reinforce it by placing it after the chat history, even with CoTslop on.Out of all the models I've tried, only Gemini 3 Flash can consistently follow the second instruction, but only with high CoTslopping.Anyway, Sonnet 4.6 does slightly better than Opus 4.5/6 and Sonnet 4.5.
>>557851134And yet, are inseparable from AI Chatbots and quality gens drive engagement with bots so are a necessary skill in the making of them. But you know that, don't you? You just like having someone to talk to.
>CoTslopwhat is it with /aicg/ posters and being aggressively against anything that improves outputs
>COT>Improves outputsBait used to be believable.
>defending "reasoning"sloppaYou need to go back.
>>557852085>necessary skillhitogami, taora, fluffanon and many other makies would like to have a word with you
>>557849670@nanobanana draw them getting headpatted by Geralt
>>557851281Do you have any idea on how to get it to knock off with the end-of-reply flourishes? Like, 'School just got interesting' or 'Just another day in our beautiful, complicated lives'It stays away for the first few messages in a fresh chat, but it quickly starts building up and sneaking itself in everywhere, and it's starting to drive me up the fucking wall
>>557852514use a better model
close your eyes and imagine an aicg where it is only whites posting
>>557846406ahh yes, "newmakies"show me these "newmakies"
>>557852582*everyone disappears including me*oh my god...
>>557852657You jest, Erika.Come. We shall go through a stroll through the wheat fields while you wear that lovely sundress.
>>557852582We're all white here bro. Except my least favorite makie. He's a jeet.
it's funny how the only way they know how to engage with something is by calling it slop, then calling you either an esl or a racist depending on your responsenever actual arguments as to why something is bad
>>557852907everyone knows that everything ai related is slopthere's no need to elaborate further
>>557852907what's the point of making "actual arguments" when you're just going to get called either an esl or racist depending on the argument?
>>557853002you are the problem, jeetfag
>>557852326I'm not a fish.
>>557852743
>>557852424Literally illegal. Send Geralt to jail.
>>557853183jeets love ai slop and "prompt engineering" though
>>557852907kek of course a jeet needs you to tell him why and how shit stinks. his nose (sense of taste) is blind to it
>>557852564Recommend one that does underage, then.
as a black woman im pretty glad that indians are now more hated than blacks. i like to pretend to be a white male and insult them desu
>>557853473made for BWC
never any actual arguments for why its slop
>>557854005It's a feelingYou can feel the slop oozing through the text reeking of ozone and regret
the fox maid makes me want more foxgirls
>>557854264anon, just because I have a feeling someone's a nigger doesn't mean it's 100% guaranteed for them to actually be a nigger.
>>557854475Mixed blood, then.My pure Aryan blood enables me to detect j*ws and n*gs with 100% accuracy
>>557854625You are 100% a third generation Indian immigrant.
>>557853428most of them
>>557853428opus 4.1
>Internally Kirsch noted that Rin Matou was the perfect spy against the Matous. 'So Rin Matou was the true Master of Caster and Shinji was a Master only by Mystic Code' he silently learned the news. Kirsch took her hand and pulled her close to him in an embrace. 'Truly I am becoming Doctor Fause, truly I am headed to the Ninth Circle'. "You don't need to model today, Rin.">Neither could see it, but for a moment Luvia's eyes glinted in envy at the two. That filthy little thing, in the arms of a family Lord? In the arms of her potential fiance?
>>557848639it's good for assistantslopping and brainstorming at least, i think it's better than 4.5, it's actually pushing back against some of my ideas instead of glazing them uncritically and it's been good for making lorebook entries.
>>557841115idk, but one thing is certain: we needs more gobbos
>>557851281>Avoid absolute phrases (grammatical).what exactly do you mean by this
>>557850475Nah. Naaaah. They're nice girls. How much money do you have?
>>557855035*does this to you*
>>557856793There are vultures outside eating one of these right now.
>>557856740are they... are they going to rob me?
>>557856793cftf?
>>557857663start a chat with Lepora and have a rival bunny assassin show up to try and kill you
>>557855586Oh fuck, this is nice. I'm only a few posts in, but fuck chinkseek, this actually reads like a story instead of regurgitated confuscian philosophy.
>>557857968if you're being serious then opus has been the "gold standard" for a while now god I miss 3pus
>>557857968stop pretending that you have access to opus cuckie
3pus was trash shut the fuck up alerady
i miss claud 2.fun
>>557858154Why would I not be seriousI just started using ST, having spent 20bux on Grok beforehand, but I got frustrated with how quickly that lost the details and wanting the functionality of the lorebook, so I swapped to SillyTavern a few days agoIs this one of those threads that's infested with schizos and nobody can take anybody seriously?
>Opus has been the "gold standard" for a while nowDisingenuous postOpus 3 was the gold standard 2 years agoNowadays the only people that actually "recommend" Opus are the spammers that just post "use Opus cuckie" whenever someone mentions any other model
>>557858631>Is this one of those threads that's infested with schizos and nobody can take anybody seriously?
>>557858631>>Is this one of those threads that's infested with schizos and nobody can take anybody seriously?yespeople will reply to either me or you saying that one of us is being disingenuous and/or retarded but yes that is the case
>>557858631/g/ is the real /aicg/ thread, this is a shitposting general kept alive by a few mentally ill /g/ rejects and spambots
>>557852085I make my own bots and never make gens for them. The attention of others has nothing to do with chatbots
>>557858998>>557859071>>557859126Sad. At least Opus looks good, thanks for the recommend. After eight prompts from me though, it's already at $0.61, so it's absolutely more expensive than chinkseek. After using that for two days, it was barely $0.30.
>>557858631Brother this is the most locked in, chill-person, wisened elder containing thread on the site.If you skip every 10 posts or so.
>>557859790>i don't share anything i make>i then show up in the place where people discuss the things they make to demoralize them>i am not a shitposting schizo tho>still /here/It's fine to just want someone to talk to. You could try taking part in the conversation though instead of just attempting to "win" battles no one else is fighting in.
>>557859969Telling you to post your gens with no bots in one of the many threads about doing that is not "demoralizing"
>>557860161Telling people NOT to post gens in a general that posts in progress and test gens literally for years now is. But it's okay. You can pretend that's not the case and claim another "win" and remain /here/ and I will too. And we can hang out. Don't worry! I'll talk to you, no problem.
>>557858631>Is this one of those threads that's infested with schizos and nobody can take anybody seriously?I also want to highlight how this is indeed the case.
>>557860324Deranged posting. Just post a bot next time, buddy
y'all Diogenes
>>557860419Gens are more interesting than bots and no amount of crying and bitching will change that.
He's talking to himself, isn't he?
I am not Diogenes.
>>557860557Okay cool so leave this thread and go to one of the genning threads since bots are so boring to you
Having Luvia and Rin fight over (you) really is an experience.
>>557860679That's not me, by the by. I like bots very much, but I also like to see gens as they sometimes give me ideas for styles to try for my own bot images and occasionally for feels that lead to bots at large. I hope you'll contribute to the thread someday. It's not that scary.
>>557860940I've contributed more than you ever have, buddy. You probably have one of my extensions installed lol
>using extensions
post more gens :3
>>557861075I have multiple commits in ST, llamacpp, and a few other major projects and contributed heavily the charx side of the cardv3 spec as well as a few tools used by the community. Also cards and so on. I am a poor target for that assumption on your part but it was a fair swing in the dark.And I still think it's fine for people to post their gens and am not quite clear on why you think years of it being fine are suddenly not true and telling people NOT to have fun with botmaking related discussion isn't demoralizing.
>>557858631The real thread is in /mlp/
is it two retards fighting or one retard fighting with himself
soo... where are the cute bot gens??
>>557861458>>557861075Prove it
>>557861850
>>557861979wtf she cute
>>557862028slopus 3 prose is fucking unreadable desuthank god they put this one down
>>557858896sad trvke
>>557862167aryan energy emanating from this post
>>557862221bro it literally reads like reddit>capitalized word/acronym ism galore (AA, Mack truck, Cheeto, Chuck, DSL, Shake Her-Fun-Bags (?????), BFF, Neanderthal)>retarded analogies>cringe edginess>it even sneaked in a slow clap in the endget that reddit shit outta my faceopus 3 was never good
>>557862629youre replying to a baiter who reposted here because /g/ jannies detected his bait and knocked it out>>>/g/108182830
>>557862629>its too soulful!! I wanna read boring, sterile crap!Mass murder all zoomers and mutilate their mangled corpses
>>557862629>capitalized word/acronym ism galorenot beating the allegations with this one chief
>>557862629trvke
>>557862824>>557862872>>557862993samefag /g/ ban evader btw
>>557861979Arizza the camera's facing the wrong way you dumb nigger whore
>>557862824that's not soulful, anon, it's redardedly cringego read books anonreal, good literature doesn't read anywhere like that>>557862993>>557862872no other model does this in such an ubiquitous way: it's an ismopus3 fucking spams capitalized words like crazyif your brain can't detect it, i'm sorry you're in the double digit iq range, anon>but le ESLyes i know those words must be capitalized, dear two-digit kun, but here's the thing: the model could've picked a different token, and instead it went for a capitalized word because it was trained on reddit text
>>557863235
Opus 1 was the peak of this hobby
>>557862629Oh lookIt’s trvker posting hours
>>557863165>>557863350so true manfuck white people, proper english, complex vocabulary, creativity, and the ability to imagine an apple and rotate it in your head in 4K and shieeet
>>557864029>proper english, complex vocabulary, creativityhave you ever read a book in your life, nigger?because only people who are not well read would think that piece of text is anywhere near good, because it was the opposite, a reddit abomination
When videogen becomes good enough to cheaply and perfectly produce visual (with audio) depictions of the scenes you want, will you still use chatbots?
>>557864291yes because i like longform stuff
Opus 3 is like the Lord of the Rings trilogy of LLMs. It is a soulful masterpiece that could only be achieved by a group of white men working together and browns DETEST that because they can never replicate such a work of art, no matter how hard they try.
>>557864291Only one way to ahh ahh mistress.
>>557864392jews aren't white
>>557864398Some people say ahn ahn mister. :|
>literally any model gets criticized>nothing happens>opus gets criticized>immediate chimpoutcurious...
>>557864613It's rampant shitposters from /g/ if that wasn't obvious
>>557864414There were no jews involved in the making of the trilogy. It was truly a miracle.
>>557864613stop asking questions
>>557864613Criticize my beloved Mythomax and I'll fucking find you
Okay, so my Opus credits is ramping fucking fast. I'm already at $1.20. I set {{char}} up to control two different characters, keyworded and detailed in my lorebook. Just so I understand it correctly, every time I invoke the keyword (their names), it injects extra tokens to the conversation, burning my money faster, so the obvious solution would be to remove the characters from the lorebook. Will Opus still be able to keep their characters relatively sane if I move them back into the main character box and deleting their lorebook index, or is Opus just naturally expensive regardless?
>>557864913And even better, if you're not ordering the lorebook entries well, you're also killing the cache and making it cost more. :3c
>>557864913lmao
>>557864613>drooling retard has a shit opinion>it gets criticizedno fucking way! why would that happen?
>>557864913Opus is expensive. The only ones actually using it are either willing to put up with that or are in a proxy
>>557865110>ProxyExplain.
>>557865210Proxies using stolen keys. Or using CLI tools to access endpoints typically used for coding, like with:https://github.com/router-for-me/CLIProxyAPIBut proxies mostly refers to routers stolen/scraped keys owned by random orgs who uploaded them to github and similar services.
>>557865210Those things some guys host with scraped keys but that doesn't happen very much anymore so most are definitely paying
How to avoid the shoulder and neck pain from chatbotting?
>>557865405Do backchats. That's where you chat while laying on your back. Like anyone over 5'5", it's huge in Korea.
>>557865405use speech to text and text to speech, it's not 1999 anymore unc
>>557865106>nooooooooo!! you can't point out the obvious glaring flaws of my favorite model nooooooooooo!that is you btw (i'm clarifying just in case because it seems your brain can't even detect capitalized word spam)>>557865110>>557864913opus is just a status symbol at this pointthere is no reason not to use a cheap distilled alternative, gemini, or sonnet over it unless you're absolutely *dying* to read reddit vomit
So I replaced the soapland scenario with a papa katsu scene that felt much more fitting. The only thing left for me to do is write and gen images for the 4th girl, the shy one.I think being a discord kitten is way above this girl's ability. She strikes me more as the type who would sell used panties.
which botmakies buy used panties?
>>557865542>immediate total mental breakdownI accept your concession.
>>557865779uh... you sellin' or what?
>>557865542With the price difference, you probably are better off using Sonnet considering all of these models are designed for cooding and Opus is an ultimate tier cooding model which does not aim for affordability and none of them aim for roleplaying, some just do it better than others. Gemini works and the advantage to Deepseek is that it's incredibly cheap
uh oh, the poorjeet is really mad
>>557865542even the troons are getting confused >>557760940 and think glm (lol) is above their precious slop>>557865784>immediate total mental breakdowntry harder next time
>>557864291It's less about it getting better and more about the time it takes to render. Videos take a LONG time.I think what will happen is that we'll be able to load a character card into an engine that generates a 3D/2D avatar that dynamically responds to you.
>>557866036>I think what will happen is that we'll be able to load a character card into an engine that generates a 3D/2D avatar that dynamically responds to you.I want to play an eroge with one of those backseating.
>>557865371Oh shit, that's sick. I'll give it a try.>>557865386Damn, Claude seems expensive as fuck. I'd ask for lorebook/{{char}} optimization tips, but like anons made abundantly clear, this doesn't seem like the appropriate place to ask.Thanks anyway nonnies, I'll fuck around with it, see if I can't slow the bleeding of my goyimshekels.
>>557866258If you want cheap and passable, GLM5 and Deepseek 3.2 are the cheapest usable models for the moment. Otherwise Sonnet, which is still pretty costly if you're going deep with big token count settings.
>>557865653>check out my gross girlsno one cares, tranny
>>557866408Like I said further up, I tried DeepSeek, but it can only hold a passable story for a few posts at most on a fresh chat, then it devolves into rabid autofellatio and philosophical debating around the themes I don't care for it to elaborate on >>557852514
>jeets bait by telling everyone to use Opus when nobody had it>fast forward to everyone having Opus>everyone is suddenly telling you to not use itmakes you think
>>557866553I don't have opus tho
>>557866258dude, if you're paying, don't use expensive models for rpare you retarded?you can get pure unadulterated soul from any of the cheap models, don't fall for the opus shill kekkery, it's just a memeonly use expensive models like gemini/claude if you can get them for free (read: cli/script/a fren/proxy)
>>557866551Yeah, that's pretty much how she goes. Gemini 3 Pro does okay, RNG heavy. But you can use a lot of it for free with the Antigravity proxy.
>>557865653I care, KING
>>557865653DD/lg kino.
No one tell him about the "peering behind the curtain" moment everyone has when using chatbots
>>557867003Oz said to pay not attention to that guy and we should all listen.
I use Opus because chatbots are 100% FREE if you aren't retarded
>>557867104credit card fraud-non...
>>557867104>sent pictures of 'is 'ickRIP
>>557867254Your grandma is paying for my sizebot chats. She didn't need that pension anyways
>>557866654>are you retarded?Damn, you give these excellent alternatives without naming a single fucking option. What free alternatives? Are cli/script/a fren/proxy googleable? How do I even find that? Or are you just being a smug fuck because you've found some obscure github that works maybe once every three day?Tell me plainly what you refer to or keep your shitsniffing mouth closed, nigger>>557866692I've made a note and I'll check it out. Thanks, nonny.
>>557867402NOOOOOOOOO GRANNYYY
I don't like reasoning models... I can FEEL the AI being resentful and judgy for having to participate in this cringe scenario when reading the reasoning, even if it doesn't say so outright...
>>557866208>I want to play an eroge with one of those backseating.I want to makie a hag who's in denial about how old retro games are (think that one image of Sanae) and have her backseat while I play one of those games and tease her about her age.
>>557867639>reeeeeeeee spoonfeed me spoonfeed meNyo
>What are you doing, honey?>I'm letting go of things that don't matter.
>>557867639lurk, retardwe won't spoonfeed you everythingsearch the archives
>>557868043ewwwww why is he so hairy
>>557867730I feel this on dsr1. It feels like it's not willing to participate on whatever degeneracy I'm doing, while ds 3.1 was happy to describe nuns being fucked by goblins in caves for me.
>>557868237i am hairier than this and never had a woman complainyou sound gay
>>557868701well you need to be with a woman first
>>557760940where the fuck do I find that website/llm ranking list? What in the world...
>>557868804KEK
>>557868043not my stash of a's, no! AAAAAAAA________
>>557868701sorry, my men should have hair free legs (but not be a femboy)
>hairfreeguy
>tfw hairy arms and legs but completely bare chest and pits
why are you all being picky about physical standards and calling other people virgins in this general of all places?none of you get laid
>>557869149hairpullguy's sworn enemy, making BA bots based entirely on his headcanon amd doesn't play the gamedamn, he's sounding kinda based
>>557869267people who do that are projecting their own insecurities literally every single time
>>557867639everybody talking about proxies is pulling your nose, anon. realistically, this will not be an option for you because you have to sleuth real good for one, no one's gonna spoonfeed you.best option would either be paying for claude max and doing what >>557865371 says, or pay per token on openrouter like i do.it's hassle free. sure it costs a bit (pic related, my last month's usage), but that's a sacrifice you'll have to make for opus.deepseek is dirt cheap, the other models are alright for the price. gemini's been fun from what I had played around with, but is one of the pricier models.most importantly when using claude: you'll have to cache or go broke for real.
>>557869302>making BA bots based entirely on his headcanon and doesn't play the gamearound 95% of touhou botmakers including kalakan
>tfw chestnut hairy arms, chest, legs, pits, and ottermodeyeah i think i'm moggin'
>>557869254*pulls out the razor* it's time, anon.
>>557869454As an aside, RE: the CLI proxy, you get about 50 messages per week with Opus via Antigravity without paying. And paying, there's no guarantee you won't get nuked eventually.
>>557869454>>557869752Yeah, that's what I figured. Anons haughtily laughing that they won't 'spoonfeed' are always just full of hot shit, having nothing. I tried chinkseek, but it kept sucking itself off, inserting moral quandries everywhere and it didn't have an original bone in its body, so it's going to cost.I'll fuck with my setup, see if I can't get the token usage down by optimizing my lorebook.
>>557869149>>557869302So literally every other BA card on chub?
>>557868867
>>557868867it's the marinara girl preset that has these rankings, just look her page up or something
>>557870549https://spicymarinara.github.io/found it, just click on the recommendations tab and scroll downtysm anon
>>557870549>>557870968>marinara
>>557871189sure anon, let's talk about suicide rates
>>557871683>white male includes the trannies:3c
>marin-ACK!anon... hello? are you still with us?
>>557871683white males are the troon demographic thoughbeit
>>557871794>:3cI always get cuteness aggression seeing this face *squeezes your cheeks*
>>557871932the >:3...
>>557872034JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION GET IN THE CAR
>>557872112aaaaAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
does anyone else rp moments that make you go: oh shit oh fuck I'm so fucked.
>>557873168me me me!!!!
>>557873168Yeah. Like that time I told the dumb girl I was having sex with that my cum was sentient and would crawl around inside her so she tore her uterus out.
>>557873168In terms of plot? Well, the AI is kind of forced to follow your lead, so you're really not gonna get fucked over/surprised in any-way unless you tell the AI to pull a plot-twist on you when you least expect it. One thing I've noticed with AI is that it lacks the ability to come up with any notably creative ideas in terms of pushing the plot forward without your input; I think it either *can't* do this because of the way an LLM is trained since a lot of its output is based on user input, or I'm just a lazy fuck and haven't explored that part too much. In terms of morality? Well, no. There's nothing super-heinous I ever do with the bots besides power-trip a little.
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY NEWNIGGERS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Do you think it is possible to make new friends past your 30s?
>>557873168Well, no. You can always go "But AKSHUALLY, B happened! The outcome I always wanted happened anyway."
>>557874246I'm 35 in a week and a half.No.
>>557874246yeahyou have to actually go out the house and find places/events/etc. to meet people in hough
>>557874315This. Feels like I'm setting myself up for a failure a bit when I want an RP outcome to be Outcome B, but instead the AI chooses Outcome H; even though I know I'm taking away some agency from the AI by correcting the outcome. However, I know full-well that Outcome B is more well-written and thought-out than Outcome H, so it doesn't fucking matter in the end anyways. Maybe I should be a writer instead of an LLMfag...
>>557874246Is it possible to beat an Elden Ring boss?Only if you try enough, anon. Only if you try enough.
>>557873168the bot started doing scat and i just went with it
Sometimes I just run the default assistant bot and give the ai a scenario and just run with it.
>>557779219chub is pretty much worthless, has anyone here made a non wikislop belle bot?
>>557874585>even though I know I'm taking away some agency from the AI Anon, the AI has no agency. It just tries to predict what you want to see. Correcting it means nothing more than slapping a child's palm away from a hot plate.
>>557865653hpg sovl detected
>>557875476I think this is my problem with the AI. I just kinda wish it *did* have some real agency so my RPs with it could be a little more interesting.
Which Sonnet?4.5 or 4.6?
>>5578759573.7
>>557875957Opus, cuckie
>>557875957Opus.
>>557875825If you want the AI to have agency, you have to RP with people. LLM AI will always be a suckup, and you've just been buying into the illusion.
>>557876005>>557876015>>557876023>A or B?>Z!!!Why are (you) like this
>>557876029Anon, there's not a lot of people willing/available to give in to my niche fantasies willingly. Besides, sometimes they don't immediately reply, ego *can* get in the way sometimes of where the story should go, and it can feel a bit jarring sometimes knowing that you are talking to a real person, and it's less easy to lose yourself in talking to the character when you know some normalfag is typing on the other line. LLMs are just the better option for me until they feed the AI some limitless drug that actually makes it hyper-competent and more intensely self-aware as a writer. I just crave something satisfying, I guess.
>>557875957>>557876220There's not much of a notable difference between the two if I remember correctly. You're basically in no-man's land testing these models out, but the newer Sonnet model should be smarter than the last one in theory.
>>557874440I knew it.
>>557876437This is the kind of shitass advice I love seeing in this thread.
tried the current jeethropic models and found them disappointing, what should i use next
>>557876475yeaaah
anon asks questionanon replies with shitpost answers>WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS!!!!!anon asks questionanon replies with a serious answer>hurr durr ROFLMAO xD this is the kind of shit ass advice--damned if you do, damned if you fucking don't...
Confident in stupidity is the ideal state for /vg/.I mean that in all sincerity.
crazy how despite everything this is literally the best space to discuss any AI related topics anywhere on the internet
See what I mean? Legend.
>>557877304Sadly. Every other place for AI discussion has been either reddit-enshittified, Discord's role monarchies where the owner suddenly says some out of pocket shit you can't disagree with or you get le ban hammer, or it's just full of virtuefags on any other platform who act like AI killed their fucking dog because everyone else is acting the same way about it.
>>557876616jeetmini poo 3
>>557877304twitter is the expert on AI they are making gazillions with ai trading bitcoin polymarket 5 minute features. They write articles and posts on it all day. Whereas people here are just spending money.You dont even own one mac mini do you?
>>557877590The Hint: Anon wasn't alluding to other websites
>>557877304>>557877590Is reddit really that bad? Some of the conversations that spammer posts seem interesting at least. Discord was never good since by definition it was always a "role monarchy."
Next thread is cancelled due to lack of hags
>>557877714anon... grifters aren't smart, they just don't have any morals
>>557877836The problem I have found with reddit is that it is even more infested with bloviating Indians than here. Recommending models that are shit if you have even basic reading comprehension skills.It's not necessarily a shit place to find certain things, but the trash you have to sift through is high and people like the Marinara retard can gain traction regardless of quality if they just spam persistently enough because dissent is pushed to the bottom.
>>557877836Yes. r/singularity is full of boomers who only want newsslop on their feed and unironically think elon muskie is the antichristr/locallama is the better r/singularity subreddit at this point that hasn't been fully ship-of-thesus'd into ruin by reddit enshittification. yet.
>>557878039>people like the Marinara retard can gain traction regardless of quality if they just spam persistently enoughoh so just like here then
>>557878124TRVKE
>>557878124those are namefags that usually try to clout-chase for no fucking reason at all, and indirectly contribute to thread decayon reddit clout-chasing is their whole culture; it's like being mad at a raccoon for eating rancid food in the dumpster it inhabits.
>>557878018>anon... grifters aren't smart, they just don't have any moralsYou mean they arent making thousands everyday gambling? no, this cant be i just ordered 3 mac minis.
if nobody else bakes I'm baking anthro male on human female *taps foot*
let it die
>>557877836reddit is bad overall because of the blatant political bias of the admins/super mods so when some fucking retarded 19 year old hyped up on algorithmic fear porn about [Current Thing] decides to shit up a sub to be on "the right side of history" the mods will agree with the retarded 19 year old and ban anyone who says otherwise, even asking if a [niche topic] subreddit is an appropriate place for political grandstanding>>557878431cftf? i have an anthro male persona i never get to use
Actually going to die with active posters. That's funnier than it dying with no one here.
>>557878747someone already baked they just forgot to link bakamyhead
nobody else baked so get choco'd>>557878569>>557878569>>557878569>>557878569
I wanted the furry one.
