Previous thread >>557762103Nioh 3 is out: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3681010/Nioh_3/
>>557897909Beautiful Senji Toyo.
scifi nioh
>>557841335retard
When do I get some light armor samurai drip? Just finished act 1 and basically the only one I found was Wayfarer. Everything else is turboheavy grug shit.
>>557898913There's lots of Act 1 light shit though
>>5578989132nd area has a few more but most are medium or heavy
>>557898984Nice. Hope they have some swordmaster style robes. Need that Isshin drip.
It's basically nothing but robes.All the light armor variety is on ninja, so I hope you like kabutos, cause samurai armor is mostly literally samurai armor.
>>557898147i like her eyepatch more than the character creator one i wish you could use it
Can someone tell me how to build or use a Odachi?I'm not a new player. But I'm struggling to make this weapon feel powerful. It just feels so... average compared to everything else. I'm about as geared as you can be. I have a good roll on both talismans, one of which obviously a Yasakani. I have about as much Martial Arts Damage as is possible. Over 40% and A Scaling with Strength on my gear and 99 Strength. And yet I still feel like I'm doing damage vastly below what I was doing when playing Katana even without using Sword of Meditation meme bullshit...The only video I found of a person making some "DUDE ODACHI IS OP" video did worse damage than me and I can't even tell if they're joking or not considering that damage is relatively lacking compared to other weapons I've used.
>>557899978
>>557899978and for ki damage
>>557900118i spent 3 hours spamming crucibles last night trying to get this and it would only give me cascade and dragon horn i hate this shit so much
>>557900118>>557900282I've got both. They're okay. Soaring Fowl has an annoying issue where you can't ki pulse the drop attack part of the skill. Not sure if it's a bug but the visual for a ki pulse is there, but you can't actually do it. Unless I'm doing something wrong, that is really annoying.Ground Sweeper is decent, but very long winded and a lot of bosses just power through it and smack you. At this point I'm geared enough it's not an issue, but it still feels pretty low in damage to other skills on other weapons. Plus without Arts Proficiency, it has absurd ki costs. In fact, most of Odachi skills seem to have insane ki costs.
>>557900548>most of Odachi skills seem to have insane ki costsinvest in ki (and still run out), odachi has always been a meme ki slurper, it's the price you pay for longer range
>>557900596I don't have that issue with Spear.
>>557900871spear isn't considered a heavy weapon like odachi, doesn't have the higher hitstun and what not. odachi is more in line with a longer range axe
>>557899978>he's trying to make the worst weapon in the game goodlmao
>>557900984>worst weaponNo one was talking about talons though?
Does Gamo's damage bonus on consecutive attacks and Chosokabe's ki damage bonus on consecutive stack? As in when both are hitting ki
>>557900548>Soaring Fowl has an annoying issue where you can't ki pulse the drop attack part of the skill. Not sure if it's a bug but the visual for a ki pulse is there, but you can't actually do it. Unless I'm doing something wrong, that is really annoying.huh tried it rn and works for me
>>557901658Can you post a video of it? Maybe I'm getting the timing wrong. It just stays red for me no matter what I try...
>>557901959>>557901658Wait - nevermind. It's suddenly working, what the fuck. I swear this didn't work last night, I spent like an hour in the training room trying to make this work.. I'm not insane.
>>557902057>>557901959and I just finished cooking up this webm
>>557902313Thanks anyway, anon. I don't know why I couldn't get it working last night. I swear the red part just didn't refresh and cancelled itself.
How do you break ki with spear
>>557902527Ive noticed something from my own footage, maybe the reason why ki pulse is cancled out is some how moving after the slam prevents you from pulsing
>>557894581ng+ complete NO TODO enjoyer
>>557902553mid stance heavy
>>557897909why the racist general abbreviation?
>>557904830:o
>>557904830I too, hate Nigerians. They ain't my niggers.
Fastest way to get glory? This shit is killing me
>>557906074Donate at Tea House about 6000 items to get the 60000 glory you need for Elder.
>>557906074do the clan that donates all rarity of armor takes like 15 minutes
so there's no ng++
>>557908529nah
>>557908529++ and way of the nioh are always added with DLC
How do you use other weapons once you've gotten used to 1kat? Trying to 2kat and it feels ultra weak. Fists feel good but kinda mashy. Haven't tried the other samurai weapons.
>>557908856by accepting the reality that 1kat just has higher damage and having fun with what i want
>>557897909Best clans to join? Any weapons that are unreasonably low-dps compared to their peers and should be avoided? How do I sex the blacksmith? Is going balls-deep into an onmyo build a viable (not necessarily powerful) strategy damage-wise?HOW DO I SAMURAI STRONG MAKE? I WANT TO BE A DEFLECT GOD BUT MY DAMAGE SUCKS HAIRY CHODE
>>5579090131kat has specific moves which are high dmg tho like low stance hold Tri, iai, swift slash heavy etcWhat are the big dmg moves on 2kat? everything seems to do no dmg lol.
>>557908695>>557908675and no depths? so there's no endgame yet?
>>557909227THE'YRE ALL BROKENtodo gives you like x10 HP and is the most populara warriors honor gives you free 50% damage >>557909316i mean its open world with repeatable missions so the endgame is how many levels of autism your on
Where the fuck is that last wraith hiding??
>>557909471WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT HP
>>557909518he's using the "you didn't beat the game" clan
>>557899978Step 1: Get arts proficiencyStep 2: Spam ground sweeper
>>557900984That's switchglaive imo
>>557898147As cute as ever.
>>557909518todo clanonly unlocked it at lvl 215 because i didn't know h ow it worked lol, already beat ng+. everything killed me in 1 hit before with like 2900 HP so i just dodged everything. dont think ive ever deflected or evaded
>>557909250I mostly use the spin move on low stance and water sword.
>>557909783>water swordso 2kat is still gay balls i see, unfortunateguess i'll give spear and switchglaive a shot, i remember them being quite good in nioh 2
Question for Shinsengumi: Does increasing your rank in the clan upgrade Warrior's Honor or is it only boosting the other ability?
>>557909471oh and by broken i mean not working lol
>>557910021it changes the color (rarity?) but doesnt seem to have any affect for me more tech: carnage talisman scales magic and ninja skill + melee
>Worst weapons listOdachiSplitstaffClawsAm I missing anything? Spear is maybe also on this list, but I don't think it's quite as bad as these.
>>557910385talons p good i think the only bad weapon is switchglaive due to much much i cant into the controls on pcstance switch is like 5 different things
>>557910603>talons p goodHow do you play them? Every time I use it I just wish I was using 1kat or tonfa instead.
>>557910165>CarnageAll the of Damage boost effects do that such as the Amrita absorption effect, good to know regardless because I'll probably need it to squeeze as much damage as I can from the seals when I get a Kyuzyu magatama for ninja (or maybe I go full balls-to-the-walls and Last Stand?). Can you get untouched onmyo on armor? Not at the blacksmith as I'm heading to Castle Blanket.
No point in grinding for gear when your gear will be completely replaced after the DLC drops
>>557911238life with other ninja stuff, overwhelming tool spam i have no idea how the recharge works, it just do the fire calamity is really good for AOE, dmg, and KI draining i think their whole point in making the systems different was so you would not feel bad throwing infinite exploding shurikens into enemies facesmost weapons just fit into that autistic chaos >>557912136the point is i need something to do with my life
So I've been playing around with different graces and set bonuses;>HoteiThe buff for stacking healing requires unique instances of healing and the buff is very short. The damage buff is also hard to tell because of this, but it's not that good. Overall, shit.>DaikotenThe damage scaling from Arts Proficieny soft caps very early on. Overall, you're getting about a 5 to 6% damage buff. Overall, shit.>InariActually not terrible, but keeping the buff up got annoying to me. I would say it's up to personal preference. Tengen Kujaku helps, but then you're using all of your spirit force on buffing up constantly and can no longer use the burst counters.>HachimanEven with max bow damage, which is up to 80% roughly, an absurd amount and a huge investment in time, you're only getting roughly 10% damage on your melee.>Damage scaling (Stat Bonus A) (Jurojin, Vaisravana, etc.)Adds raw damage. Better for faster weapons than slower weapons. For an Axe, it's almost worthless. For Fists or Dual Blades, it's much more valuable.With all of that being said, the best samurai set after much testing seems to be (assuming a Yasakani of the appropriate type, so 3pc is actually 2pc etc. etc.)>2pc Warrior of the East (Martial Art Damage)>3pc Brave Demon (Life, Martial Art Damage)>7pc Vaisravana (Life, Martial Art Damage, Ki Recovery Speed, Ki Reduction, A Scaling Strength)>2pc Kintaro (Damage Taken while attacking down)The set up would go;>VaisravanaYour WeaponBowGloves (Yamatai would be best)Boots (Yamatai would be best)Accessory 1 (Yasakani)Accessory 2>Warrior of the EastWaist>Brave DemonOff-hand Weapon (Cestus)Helmet>KintaroChestDepending on weapon, you could mix it up a bit. For instance, Vaisravana 7pc isn't as valuable on Axe, so you could just use more Kintaro or slot in another set depending on what you personally want.Anyway - I'm done until DLC. I've meta gamed this enough.
>>557912136Moonprayer with max Damage Reduction (crit) is unstoppable (again).
>>557912329Some of the set bonuses are really good like Sincere Budha, Poison resistance scales up to like 30% damage.
>>557912329>InariI think it depends on how you're using affixes for Spirit Force generation. I have it on Ninja alongside Spirit Force (Evade) and don't have Spirit Force issues, the main reason I don't burst counter is that I'm a bitch as I'll have enough to re-apply elemental weapon + burst counter. Also Extend Elemental Weapon if an accessory can help with this too.>ContextI was feral in Nioh 2 and got better with guardian skill burst counters but Tengen's skills are shit for that. Can do the style switch burst counters when I think about it but some skills are bastards still (Kunimatsu and Soji).
>>557912329most bonuses scale up to like 10 in the stat then diminishing returns completely destroys any further investment.. like .01% per stati thought i'd be getting some kind of deep system in this game from what i read in reviews but its pretty hollow imoendgame is same as early, in that gear stats are pretty pointless only gear lvl matters. its kind of typical of games that force stat requirements for wearing gear, the requirement is investment this is coming from a poe schizo tho, game is fun
>>557912329I've been trying Versatility with Benzaiten and it is kinda not worth it. The stacks last too short and things die too fast to warrant building them. It is faster to use a different set and spam the few good martial arts.
>>557909250SotC loops are considerably better than Iai loops in Nioh 3
>>557913019It's better on fists or talons for how fast they can spam skills. With Benzaiten 7pc they can spam for ridiculous length.
>>557912554That's interesting. I haven't tested that yet. Maybe I should look into that.
>>557912980nioh 1 was way less clamped scaling wise then they locked that shit down in 2
>2kat>kakizaki>versatility>7p benzaiten>5p general of ruinkino unlocked
What's the verdict on the clans? Other than the bugged Todo of course
>>557917857the shogun is an exhibitionist ninja?!
>>557918054ofc, don't you know the lore?
>>557918139it was an overly descriptive LN joke
>summon revenant>it barrier talismans itself and then tries to sloth mei always forget that a sizable chunk of the playerbase actually plays like this
>Todo highest score clanNioh 3 players confirmed pussy coded
>>557917606i have nioh 2 installed, havent played since 2021 according to steamthink im boutta start it up nigguh >>557919045ng+ chosokabe miyoshi gang (didnt know it was bugged or i would have abused it before beating everything gang)
>>557918761barrier talisman is way too good not to abuse
What's the skill points max?
I wonder if its still possible to have a balanced pvp mode like in nioh 1 where guardian spirit is heavy nerfed and everyone has set equipment based on what they come in with among other ideas I havent thought of
>can't raise droprate of kintaro hammerREEEEEE
>>557919259blast wave is the only one worth using
>>55791932399
>>557917295>>557912554Alright, tested it with a barebones set. Poison Resistance Reforged onto all pieces of armor. My Yasakani has poison resistance on it but my other Talisman didn't. Ended up with over 100 poison resistance, which said it was at 50%. Not sure how I'd go about getting more without fucking with my Summons or something else which I don't think is worth it.Base damage is higher on Sincere Buddha for simple quick or heavy attacks by about 5 to 10%, but Martial Arts damage is losing around 5 to 10% versus the mixed meta set I created in my original post. I'd also like to say that the mixed meta set has a lot more versatility with it's use, you either use Sincere Buddha weapons or you trade out a bit of armor and lose more poison resistance. You can't get 3pc brave demon for 15% more martial art damage, but you can at least mix in either 10% less damage taken with attacking with Kintaro or 8% martial arts damage with Warrior of the East, but this also goes back to how much more limiting it is. So you either use the weapons with it, or you use an Axe or Spear (Kintaro or East).Personally I prefer the set I created, but this is probably the most competitive set I've seen so far so it's pretty decent.
>>557919636For the ones you use the little booklets to raise?
>>557919654using warriors honor and crimson zephyr gives you 50% free dmg and A agility wearing the heaviest armor but this is my build so you cant steal it
>>557919761oh shit nevermind i thought you meant like strength, heart etc. i think its 31 or at least thats what all mine are at halfway through ng+ and having bought out all the sudama upgrades
So towards the end of the first map I picked up Ninja 1Kat, and kickslash damage and ki damage from behind is just obscene. Like the only thing this weapon seems to do is getting behind enemy, but when I manage to get behind I basically instantly remove any counterplay from bosses. I just did Takeda Shingen demon form on 1st try without much issues and the weapon played itself.
>>557920051secret technique equip tonfa hold heavy attack behind boss go
>>557919836is warriors honor still better than crimson inferno if your using the full crimson 7p?
>>557919836Isn't it only like 2% per piece?
>>557920394not 100% sure, but neither give actual numbers so... lolwarriors honor just seems bugged like todo HP imo, mega dmg. my only evidence supporting this is how they made 100 sets that all do the same amount of damage
>>557910385Worst weapons how? I've been using Splitstaff for a while and had no issue whatsoever, and it's fun.
>>557912327>life with other ninja stuff, overwhelming tool spamthats not really a glowing endorsement if OTHER ninja weapons are better
>>557920564>and had no issueA weapon being something you can beat the game with and a weapon being trash can both be the same thing.
>>557920493crimson zephyr does weight classyou can mix/match clan bonuses because none of the systems in this game actually mean anything
>>557920739its just whatever you like / flow with if you hate hitting things with weapons so much you can actually just unequip them and your ninja tools will do even more damage because unarmed attack power is so high and they scale off AP
it really is a thing that odachi does more damage doing stance switch combos then spamming any of the moonlit snows they even REMOVED the conditionals for moonlit snow
>>5579121361st DLC doesn't drop until septemberfinal DLC doesn't drop until feb 2027 so it's going to be awhile
I killed a god for this bro
>>557921028so feb is when i should do a replay huh? i wonder if the first dlc is worth returning for. i ended up skipping dlc completely in nioh 1 and only did the dlc in nioh 2 once they were all out. nioh 2 dlc was fucking fantastic.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A5c8Ch3gWt9Cft9CAwLzBg9PuBgqpWm1nOYGxEfiAYg/edit?usp=sharingOdachi is pretty trash, ki damage wise.
>>557920995>if you hate hitting things with weapons so much you can actually just unequip them and your ninja tools will do even more damage because unarmed attack power is so high and they scale off APwhat the
What are some strong or fun Ninjutsu to use? Any recommendations?
>>557922034for some reason the ground swiping move is the best it has...
>>557922034>beyond infinity>eight-handed blade
>>557922190i tried telling you earlier none of the systems in this game mean anythingthey put RPG paintjob on ninja gaiden. not complaining tho, just dont appreciate the dishonesty lel like 90% of animations in nioh 3 are ported from ninja gaiden 4
>>557921260don't complain the Spanish had to conquer a continent for theirs.
>>557901510damage and ki damage are not the same thing, anonthey don't need to stack
>>557923872Okay but does damage affect ki damage
>>557923941no
>>557922227rolling around as a spiky fat cat
I've killed several mermaids and flying bolts already, why aren't they showing up in the yokai illustrations?
>>557922034A lot of Odachi is really shit for some weird reason and I'm not sure I understand the reasoning. I mean - Odachi was never amazing. But it never felt this bad, as it does in 3.>Mid Stance now bounces from blocks unlike 1 and 2>Ki damage bizarrely increased massively>Most of it's skills do shit damage except for two skills, both of them low stance skills>Weirdly low Ki Damage>Most of the buttons for skills are taken up by trash or double ups, where one button combo has like 10 skills attached to it so you're left with an extremely limited selection of skillsLike I said - Odachi was never amazing. But it was always okay. Nioh 3 feels like they nerfed the shit out of Odachi and it's fucking bizarre.And the worst part is - it's not even bad because it's damage or ki damage is bad. That sucks, sure, but with meta gaming armor and skills and Onmyo, you can partially fix that. The issue is how the weapon feels and how badly a lot of it's skills combo or how they are attached to the weapon.
>>557924559>>Ki damage bizarrely increased massivelyKi usage***
>>557897909>scampuss OPCute. I guess I'll stay and post.
>>557924158just b urself
When the fuck did I do this
>>557922034Any regular damage list?
is there any real difference between 260 toughness and 300 toughness?
>>557925452don't you remember reading the manual?
>>557925748bout 40
Sam1kat has more sauce and options in low stance than Sam2kat has across all three stances btw
>>557925604no, bro did the regular damage chart and realized he was a fucking retard so he pivoted to Ki damage and moved the goalposts
>>557925748The only thing that matters with Toughness is if your ranking changes in your status screen for Toughness. Do you move from A to B or whatever else? If not, then no.
>>557925452the stick you put in the groundhave you never done any gardening in your life or what
>>557925748it's the letter
>>557922034Swallow's Wing (Water) outperforms Kick, I didn't consider that the elemental alternatives would be five times as strong as the standard active skills
>>557927839so silly
>>557927839and by "so silly" i mean that IIRC the natural language description says a "massive wave of water" or some shit. there's only like 3 skills in the whole game that use "massive," as an amateur game designer i can tell you that this is code we use to tell you this shit is fucking broken
>4 Heavenly KingsWTF were they thinking?
>>557928215it's a fun challenge innit
>>557927957we have a lot more patches to go, Im surpised they havent gone through a balance patch yet since todo 2x hp
>>557928323ah fuck my penis
>>557928215"Let's make them fight one of 'em twice so they're still only technically 4 even though it's 5 fights!"
>>557928215its not that hard, their stats are reduced a bit
>>557928323I'm pretty sure Todo isn't x2 hp. It's just taking every single stat as scaling instead of just your STAM
>>557900118>>557900282these are completely worthless time waste skills just like thunderbolt
>>557928215Boss rush missions are fun. Also were people really surprised that Takeda himself shows up at the end?
>>557927879>>557927957I stopped using it because the elemental buildup on samurai skills are awful if you don't specialize a build around it, I just assumed it was the usual low damage repositioning tool and it seemed redundant with Frost Moon: Earth but it's better than most heavy attacks when you consider the recovery frames and everything else
>>557925452at the end of heian you plant a little twig
everytime I turn the game off and try to do something else I get that itch to spam 1kat r1+circle and then I just boot the game back up again
>>557928215
>>557928987Say what you want about that game, they have some banger cinematics for expansions.
need more amrita
>>557928987this but 2kat's piercing Iai attack. Zipping 10 yds instantly is too fun.
>>557929727I don't understand why you wouldn't just level when the effects are so minimal after the softcaps
Everything gives so little glory in 3. What's the best way to farm it?
So what the fuck does the rest of the world do while a gigantic floating red eyeball is blasting all of Japan
>>557931705Go "I bet it's some fucking fetish thing, goddamn freaky japs" and carry on with their lives
>>557931705Everybody's dead
>>557931069cause i'm already max level
>>557931638turn in gear just like always
anyone come across lvl 170 chest, gloves or waistguard yet? been able to find 170 of everything else but those (not counting accessories or ranged weapons)
>>557902553Instead of breaking Ki you're supposed to just stack heavy armour and crutch on semen mode to hyperarmour through shit while you press triple threat / piercing rain / fatal thrust. The basic moveset of the spear is awful and they've tried to salvage it with a handful of retarded new moves but that just leaves you using the handful of retarded new moves instead of really playing 'The Weapon' as a whole
If I overlevel the area I'm in, if I go for co-op as a visitor, could I be summoned to an area I haven't visited yet?
Todo is fucking stupid, I'm leaving, you did NOT beat the game
anybody have any clue how to get this item? it's really close to the imperial palace shrine
>>557933370no and i spent like 45 fucking minutes running around trying
Is there any weapon comparable in complexity and options to Sam1Kat? If so, what weapon is that? I only played 1Kat in Nioh2 and 1.
I'm on the final boss now and I want to ask why the fuck every single fucking boss has been designed around oneshots. Either they do fuck all damage or you die instantly
>>557929727When do you get the Silabar and what is the cap atm?
>>557933998No. Fists and Switchglaives are the most fun other weps tho imo.
>>557934063use a steel talisman
>>557934063Have you been keeping your armor up to date?I've never been one shot by any boss on NG except for grabs. But grabs are highly telegraphed and each boss only has 1 so it's easy to recognize and avoid.
>>557934242>>557934192I'm doing both of these. I mean my current gear might be like 20 levels under, but it's not like I haven't updated in years. I am going low weight so I'm sure I'm not meant to be unpunished but the entire game, even when perfectly up to date gear, has either been I breeze through or the boss sneezes and I die
>>557934485i never got oneshot by the final boss with 20 con steel talisman and vaugely level 135ish armor, i got dropped to 10% like...once
>>557934643My average gear is around that, steel talisman, and any stray combo in his final phase could kill me. I beat him but still. Like I said I'm light as fuck gear
>>557934770light armor is just not worth
Can I play we a fat ass tank in these games? Specially Nioh 1 since I want to start from the beginning.
>>557934853I like ki
>>557933613I got it.
>>557935018that's what the barrier talisman is for
>>557934968>Can I play we a fat ass tankas a fat ass tank*Idk what happened there. I'm falling asleep at work
>>557935040please elaborate
>>557935114had to jump on top of this sign but clearly this isn't intended. 90% of the time you slip off it.
I played through 80% of the game forgetting that Living Artifact was a thing
>>557935201what the fuck
>>557935580oh yeah and more specifically you can land on top of the smaller top part only..
>>557934153you get it after beating final boss on ng+, there's no cap afaik, you just keep filling it up
>>557935754I meant level cap. My ingot in 2 on console was rather stacked.
>>557935845level cap is 250
>>557934968>>557935075yes it's always my favorite way to play
>>557935075you want to have your Toughness stat as high as possible, generallyas your equip weight rises (the color changes) you get less Ki regen but blocking takes less Ki (like, way less Ki). it's pretty good.healing is also very fast in this game. only other game with better tanking is Surge 2 which reaches a level of tanking never before seen in a soulsgame
>>557935569It's always been an "oh fuck" button after they nerfed it after Nioh 1 living weapon builds. Largely unused since then.
>>557936435yokai shift builds are really fun
>>557936435I just got conditioned out of using it early after a couple times where I got hit by like 2 moves and the mode ended. It just didn't feel worth it with how long it takes to charge
>>557936848>I got conditioned out of using the damage power up because I wanted it to be an armor power upokay?
>>557937183Yeah. Why bother waiting 3 years to build up charges for something that honestly does fuck all even when it works unless I was playing some dogshit zero dps buildLiterally the only reason I'd care about the button is if it gives me an invuln phase. I don't need the damage, I already shit out damage. I want a counter to the bosses going schizo
>>557937338it does tho...you are invulnerable during the startup
>>557937380I could also just click dodge in that time window. I mean extended invulnerability
>>557937338>3 yearsYour extraction paper? Your amrita rocks shotcut? bro?Even if you eat damage it's usually enough to get confusion easily because you can style shift to the second element during it.If you time it right during the time the boss is busy starting the yokai realm it's a ton of damage for no risk.
>>557937889My build gets perma confusion just by swinging, and even with those, by the time it builds up the boss' resist will be high enough that it doesn't do anythingAre there things I could to make it more usable? Yeah. Am I going to recondition myself to click the button and design my build and items around it? Nah
>>557897909How do I use this cannon?All my video gamer senses are telling me that I can use this to destroy the crystals that are blocking the way, but there's not torch nearby and fire attacks don't trigger it.
Can anyone help me find the Yamabiko crucible wraith in NG+?He's not at the spot marked on the map.
>>557938368side quest
W-What's the easiest Samurai weapon to pick up for ninja chud...
>>557938838Probably 2kat. It just works.
>>5579388382kat
The more I play the more I despise nioh 3 there is no excuse for the lack of guardian spirits and not having enemy sensor as a fucking reforge choice. I despise have atrocious blocking is even with high toughness. Onmyo is rancid shit, calamity ninjutsu rapes it to oblivion. There’s no builds. It’s just temu wo long for samurai and ranged cheese ninjutsu
>>557936435Yokai shifts were alright. The only real counter to them was Shuten Doji since he slurps up Amrita and steals yours on hit or block.Living Artifact is the real deal in terms of scarcity. You can about fully fill the gauge per stamina depletion on regular yoaki but against human bosses there's no hope there.
>>557940281yeah it is a little...basic
>>557940281the dlc will fix it
Fuck. I ended up being disappointed. The open corridor design doesn't work, it just stretches out the game in the worst ways possible. Visuals of an area get tiring and old, especially Bakumatsu (even with the hints of Ronin assets). Game was way too easy, with the amount of bosses that took me more than one try able to be counted on one hand with multiple severed fingers.Besides the Real Nioh™ side missions, the short time in Africa was probably the best part, and we're not going back there since the DLCs happen in the 1600's.>>557940281And this stuff too.
I wish flowing mist parry on 1Kat dealt more damage.
>>557941092Yeah it's funny how it does so little, but at least it gives you a free sword of meditation hit
>>557940858Nioh 2 was the most bloated game I've ever seen with multiple missions happening on the exact same shitty map. If there's a clear advantage 3 has it's definitely the level design and how the map is used.But yeah it's too easy, that is very disappointing. TN is just done with hard games, that was obvious enough with SoP (as much as I like it) and Ronin and how they cheated a lower difficulty tier for NG2Black. Also the ninja stuff is a good idea on paper but losing stances on half of the weapon only to get THREE ninjutsu as an hotkey is completely retarded. I don't see the point of ninja at all. Also air combat was not bugtested at all lmao
>>557940858Post build
>>557941525Nioh 3 is harder than nioh 2
>>557941650lol
>>557940858if you were one shotting bosses you were cheating. why did you do it?
>>557941650lmao even
>>557941650Correct.
the one time i saw someone call the game easy and actually post a video, they had like 6 talisman buffs active and hit the boss with sloth and/or weakness and was using 2kat water swordprobably the same sort of retard who was looking up "best build/secret weapon" tiktoks in elden ringactual subhumans, man.
>>557941995projection
lil nigga trying to apply the word he learned on social
>>557941995I mostly find it funny how it's 100% consistent that nobody answers the build call when stating this claim on this website
I'm pretty sure that I died more times to Umi-Bozu in Nioh1 than to all bosses in 3 combined.
>>557942331because tiktok wasnt out then
>>557942331same and probably to yatsu-no-kami in 2 too
>>557934063Do you have only 5 constitution?
>>557940858its been the same thing with lots of games recently >our new game is open world, and has soooo much more stuff>stuff is from old game copy and pasted randomly throughout open worldseriously, who tf are even any of the characters? >artificial bloat because they ported over old game and needed to put it somewhere >and also you have the option of repeating these encounters with spendable currency infinitely thus making infinite content! we can call this endgame because any sane person would turn it off at this point>the autists like me that try to engage their design find it mostly broken and non-functional, probably because they knew nobody would willingly go that far>run around from encounter to encounter, wasting the precious seconds i have in this life>when it could have just been missions>with less bloat>less time wasted on dev making pointless open areas >and more contentit feels indian or AI, idk how to explain it
>>557941915Stop fucking lying, retard. Why even do this? On the internet at that.
>>557941995>>557942212Did you actually have trouble with Nioh 3?
>>557942387Im pretty sure if I played N1 today i would still fall off his arena at least 5 times before killing him without any cheeses.
>the latest game is too easy now that i put 500=5k hours into the serieswe are /mhg/ now
>>557942812yea, you would too if you actually played it
>>557942812More than 2, yes. Reading somebody saying they had issues with Yatsu-no-kami of all things is wild considering how hard he was neutered from the alphaKoroka was also dunked on by the alpha and lost his yokai super armor.
>>557937573show me you dodge cancelling 99% of player actions please retard
>>557942993Just fucking hit them.
>>557943303bro...
>>557938950>>557939797>>557938838I like that the most technical Samurai weapon in 3 is still getting recommended to shitters because Water Sword lmao
>>557942829The level curve for Sengoku era is definitely fucked with how significant early levels in Nioh are. Baba being placed in the corner of the map to encourage exploring doesnt help.Also some crucible arts are way too strong for something you can get from snake hag's stage.
What's up with the Demon of Pride boss fight eating so many of my inputs?
>>557943416I'm playing the same retard axe Todo ungabunga that I played since Nioh 1 and had no problems.
>>557943497technical? 2kat just does everything when you press the button, you don't need to worry about timed inputs besides god of wind and there's no weird stance switching bullshit
>>557942812Yeah I played through Nioh 2 before 3 and none of the filter bosses gave me trouble except Shibata and he used to be even worse. If the game was like the warring states in terms of difficulty I would've been disappointed but it picked up near the end of the 1st map for me.
>>557942829if you compare average damage dealt per hit from enemies it is clearly far more in 3. in 1 the onryoki will almost 1shot you with a ball that it throws constantly in the fight, in 3 the similar boss will do like 40% of your hp
>>557943710if you're not winter winding between stances you're not playing optimally and the correct timing of winter wind changes slightly depending on the preceding skill
>>557941650This is unironically true, by a wide margin, nioh 2 is easy as fuck
>>557943860who said anything about optimal?
>>557941995It really is >dood nioh 3 is so easy ninja op>looks inside >todo clan >>557942331That speaks more about your IQ than the difficulty between games, if you’re dying to ume bozu you are insanely dogshit
>>557943839>>557943612i agree the game is fucked, but it's not 'too easy' if you were playing the game w/ more in mind then the credit screen
>>557943618you are literally "just hitting" them...you do understand that this is not the universal experience, yea? that todo is literally bugged (you have more than 2x the hp you should). that axe is the overtuned god weapon of this game, and that life leech is the perfect talisman to use along with it?
>>557941995I don't do that and it's still too easy.I use like 1 or 2 elementals and the quick change buff, maybe attack + sometimes. The buffs this time don't last long, and combined with the slower casting, it takes some skill to reapply them mid fights. They're completely legit and not a cheat.And besides if the game has the opinion than it's the game's fault if it's not balanced, but in 3 I'd say the onmyo stuff is good. Even sloth got nerfed enough that it barely make sense to use it.No it's just that 3 is too fucking easy. Even the bosses don't hit harder than some random Yoki in Nioh 1. That's the fucking problem. In Nioh 1 and 2 the game was hard even if you used every little tricks, now in tricks you're supposed to nerf yourself? Why? That is such a cope argument.
>>557944206So the same shit I've been doing since Nioh 1? Except I don't even need to flux anymore, and in Nioh 2 I would have had multiple other HP regens on hit too.Too bad the rest of you only now found out about axe and Todo. It's been 9 years.
>>557944403>only now found out about axe and Todo.nta but Todo is literally bugged right nowThat said>since 1Post your abyss progress
>>557944089nice no true scotsmantry again
>>557944559Post your Nioh 3 progress lol
>>557944610In the spirit of playing along with the deflection, here you goNow post your abyss progress.
>>557943839far less i mean, lol
>>557943303When I fought this boss I had 2k-something hp, not fucking 5k. Mind you my highest stat was constitution
>>557944710I don't even know where my Bloodborne machine is atm
>>557944403you can do whatever you want, my point was that this is not the universal or even intended experience. the devs didn't give the option of a dozen different weapons, and however many talismans because it's a puzzle for you to figure out the best one and crush the game. it's basically for roleplaying-- a diegetic form of difficulty modes, more or less. you're also allowed to summon 2 players to absolutely fuck on any boss. just more options
>>557944792Typical. >>557944773Being extremely generous (dumping literally every stat except for Con and Stam) you could have just under 3k by this fight unless you were comically overlevel.
>>557944909Seething lol
>>557945013literally just made this because I saw it in game and came to post it here, nice coincidence shitposter
>>557942331Umi-Bozu is a joke but I kind of get where you're coming from. I spent four hours fighting Muneshige in the Nioh 1 last chance beta before beating him and as a result when I grabbed the game later after getting a PS4 the whole game was easy until I got to the DLC.
>>557928215git gud, it's really not that difficulty. Only the horse nigger gave me any real trouble because he doesn't stop moving, forced me to use ninja to keep up
would you guys recommend first berserker khazan?
>>557945013The only reason I asked was because your screenshot was before even clearing the game once and HP soaking in abyss doesn't work without a secondary and tertiary defensive layer so I was pretty sure you've never even been remotely deep down there.
>>557946135It's kinda mediocre honestlyImagine Nioh without stances, without ki pulse and with a very slowly generating version of anima/spirit force gating most of the actually fun specials.
On NG+, I'm missing multiple crucible wraiths based on map info, but there is no icon on the map for them. Anyone knows where to find them?
I think this might be it for me.
>fight mr gunslinger>get his spirit>it's lightning typeHey lightning is cool but I did not see one single thunderbolt in that fight, Nioh 3 is gaslighting me.
>>557946135it's pretty good. kinda simple. i wouldn't buy it until it's cheaper
OK, crucible wraiths are not marked at all in NG+ but you can still tell if you're missing one by pressing RT over a zone in the map and it'll show how many are uncollected. Still looking for yamabiko.>>557947565Hi anon I was just typing a post about this exact thing lol.Because many enemy placements are changed in NG+ we just have to find them. They're totally unrelated to the position of NG crucible wraiths.
I think you get levels too easy in 3 for the amount you really fight.
>>557947684nioh 3 was made by aifirst ai game
>>557947840Well shit, I don't feel like just running around randomly.
>>557946135It's a basic game but it's pretty satisfying. Uses the "memorization" approach to fight design.Legitimately highish learning curve though. It's like Wuchang where getting better at the game is just realizing how little you're supposed to respect the encounters. Except unlike Wuchang the game is good.
>>557948305Yamabiko only appears in a few zones in NG so I'll search those tomorrow. If I don't find it that means it could be literally anywhere, in which case I won't bother to keep looking.Eventually someone will make a NG+ soul core map I guess.
>>557948898wuchang was pretty fun and there were thighs and titties
>>557949417I had an okay first playthrough.I usually do these kinds of games thrice or moreBut NG+ was easy as piss until literally the end of the game and a fresh NG playthrough coming off of NG+ broke my spirit because of the fucking birds
>>557941995What makes the game easy is that both Samurai and Ninja kits are mechanically overpowered. Ninja can do too much damage from the opposite end of the screen while running the fuck away and Samurai can do too much damage while permanently hyperarmoured with massive damage reduction. You don't even have to build into anything, the classes do that by default and gearing is just window dressing
>>557949631aww that sucks
>>557949636except what youre describing for samurai is a build
>>5579498343 'skills' that you're given at the start of the game is not a build
>>557935728What even dropped from the amrita?
>player cheats with hyperarmor build and tries to play it off as the defaultyea you actually beat the game bro good job
>>557949913random shit loot
>>557947662I'm gonna go for a billion.
Hey guys rate my build
>>557950170>melty:like please just show me gameplay of you clearing a boss rush without the "3 skills" or whatever you crutched on. PLEASEthese are the same players that count selecting easy under difficulty settings as a gameplay decisionthis stuff is optional. it's optional. the game is too easy? dont' use the optional stuff that makes it too easy. holy fuckwhy didn't you summon? it's right there/ use the cups retard. use the cups.
>>557950170also please show your axe and life leech talisman
>>557950170that's me also with -65% damage taken while attacking
>>557949636>You don't even have to build into anythingYou do have to build into something.Heavy armor is about as good as it was in N2 (technically a bit worse) but light and medium for samurai has more than a few attacks that can outright kill them. There's also less fuckup avoidanceIn Nioh 2, you could Feral dodge away from bad timings, smelt faster winded recovery on like every piece, had enemy sensor given to you for basically free, and if all that fells, cancel your winded and guarantee stagger an attacking enemy with a soul core which also has ki protection in case you get hit during it.In Nioh 3, guardian spirit skills don't guarantee stagger and have no winded protection so you can be winded again if hit during them.Also Living Artifact is harder to use to escape from winded. I'm not sure if that was intentional because it's also a pain in the fucking dick to cancel sometimes.
>>557950261>>557950538Nobody in this reply chain said anything about an axe or life leech talisman retards>this stuff is optionalThrowing ranged damage with a Ninja is optional. Pressing Calamities is optional. Game sounds real hard when you don't know what any of the buttons do and don't use any of the mechanics HYUK HYUK
>>557947340>>557947742>>557948898alright thanks. I'll keep an eye for sales.
>>557949025the little screaming asshole things?in the last zone, by the Itsumade guy if i remember right
>why don't these people use living weapon and critical HP builds, this game is easy!Larped so hard as a 2 int grug that he actually became one.
>>557950704Nobody needs to be heavy weight because 260 toughness is trivially achievable at 69% with minimal investment in stam
>>557950993unironically dont use calamities or play a heavy/life leech samurai build. now you can have fun
Reminder to all the "you control the buttons you press" faggots that the devs control and are paid to control what they put in the game. Maybe they should do a better job.
>>557951137Oh? Do explain.
>>557951591i agree with this. the game is not in a good state, and i dont have confidence in them ever really sorting it out (for all we know it's intentional, even)... BUT you are a few skills/ninjitsu and items off from a challenging game
What are the A agility with 260 toughness builds? I refuse to be slower than A agility on my Samurai and I WILL (and have) suffer through yellow toughness before I give it up
Looking back, Hundred eyes was pretty shit
>>557952708abandon all delusions of control. some enjoy the todo pill from simple fear of death.. but not man, man welcomes the todo pill with arms outstretched
>>557934968>Can I play we a fat ass tank in these games? Specially Nioh 1 since I want to start from the beginningYes and no. In Nioh 1, there's a stat call Toughness. I forget how high you need it, but IIRC, having Toughness over 200 gives you poise. This only works on normal weapon moves. The moment you start using skill moves, that poise disappears. If you're now wondering why anyone would use skill attacks, it's because they don't rebound from blocking humans, unlike your standard low/mid attacks.
>>557934968Nioh 1 it's viable all the way until you push WotNYou really don't want to get fucking touched for any reason with the amount of aids enemies start carrying
Just hit NG+. What's the pre-NG+ yasakani farm, por please?
>>557952748obviously
>>557950261>this stuff is optional. it's optional. the game is too easy? dont' use the optional stuff that makes it too easy. holy fuckThis is and has always been literally impossible for most people.
>>557954193because antireligious sentiment in the West has been eroding virtues such as self-control for a while now
>>557954425>antireligious sentimentyou're mixing up cause and effect just like 15 year old atheists blame religion for everything bad before 1800
>>557954524lol
>>557951861Except that the things you're supposed to not use if you want the game to be interesting are also the new mechanics which are supposed to be the appeal of a sequel. If you don't want to play Ninja and you don't want to semen combo you can just play Nioh 1
>>557952708Easiest way is Ii clan and Crimson General armor.
>>557952708Has to be crimson zephyr or something.Because I have 99 stamina, I'm literally at the 30% weight border, and I only have 185t.If I reforge +toughness on all my gear, it would probably only boost it another 24 points.Idk if there are any set bonuses that effect toughness.
>>557954425Nice opinion. Who told it to you?
>>557952708Outside of Li clan bonus no
>get yasakani with pretty good-looking grace (vai-something)>accidentally return to title screen instead of return from mission
>Li
>>557955553
How do I chain martial arts while under cum effect, let's say I play spear cus with 1Kat it works a little better for me but with spear i can't do more than 1 move in a row.
>>557955905Frost Moon
>>557943918I'll have to replay it soon but I don't see how this is possible.
>stack all of the skills that buff and add effect to mist >use it with tonfas and kannagi I don't even bother with buffs or ninjutsu. I just like beating people to death with sticks and hitting sick i-frames.
>>557932687How do you perform abilities in Semen Mode that require a light attack first, such as Piercing Rain? Don't normal attacks break Semen Mode?
>>557956857this person is playing the game
>>557955553Some things never change
>>557955905all you have to do is not press the same skill/heavy/moon twice in a row god
>>557957212Please god why can't I use spear. Why am I still stuck on 1kat. I used to use every single weapon (except spear)Why the fuck is this weapon so fucking hard for me.
>>557956984no there's just a timer that ticks down between Strong Attacks/Skills used, fast gauge depletion you can witness
>3 yasakani>all ninjaWell this is one more reason this division is stupid.
>>557781058I just tested this retard's claim about Flourish cancelling cum mode for Spear and it's false. If you Flourish -> Frost Moon it works fine and you can go into whatever strong attack or martial art to continue the cum combo.
>>557956984no, it lasts for like...1 second and if you don't use a new art within that time then you go into post nut depression
>try undaunted and its new follow up >can out block entire combo strings and red attacks >damage mediocre
I'm trying to get Fists of Reckoning from a Crucible. How to do this because Crucibles are limited right?
>>557958972just pick the mission again from the menu dog
>>557957353Two words for actually mastering spear use and spacing: sprinting attacks. Spear's martial arts are generally slow and risky so you need to make up with sustained aggression. Spear has a solid set of sprinting attacks in particular and heavy ones maintain your arts gauge. Microsprint into light or heavy is therefore very useful on spear. Dodge attacks are also worth using and have good reach
>>557958996What mission?
>>557946135If you can turn your brain off and enjoy the ride, you'll have fun with it. It's very much a spectacle over substance kind of game though.
>>557960592there are a bunch of crucible missions in the game, it says the word in the description if you don't remember the name
How to wrap my head around the switchglave? I have no clue how anything works here.
Why is my Cestus only at 400 damage while my Tonfa is at 700? The Cestus is higher level.
best crucible modifier to get on a weapon?
What makes the Switchglaive the hardest weapon to use in the game? I don't get it.
>>557962521nobody has ever said that
>>557960592the crucible mission, duh? You've never seen the battle scroll mission? You might have missed a ton of optional missions.Btw you can run them in coop, even solo, and then they should be level scaled.
>>557961013first you need to separate the stance shift key to be alonewithout this, its literally useless the entire gimmick is switching stances and any other input basically makes it impossible
if (you)r gameplay doesnt look like this you were probably cheating>>557959886>>557957212
>>557962521it's hard to use because it does 0 damage
>>557965643we have different reality seeds. my gameplay needs to involve more layers of buffs and spam because my seed is harder. your seed just has the boss standing there doing nothing. if you experienced my seed for even a second, you would crumble
Cheesing the AI is peak Nioh fun for me. Its so exploitable
What's the best ninja weapon to compliment with the cestus? I did not like the claws.
>>557966078i dont doubt this one bit
>>557966078real
>>557966086Sucks that AI keeps getting broken even when you play normally. Hate that I have to chase after a boss that decides to just keep walking backwards until you hit it again.
the 1kat mystic arte that makes deflect easier just ends the whole game. My brain is fully off now
>>557966738this is actually you breaking your reality seed by influencing the simulacrum projecting the video game and its interpretation of time through frames. its only made to understand sub 60 fps. anything above that breaks its interpretation and results in things such as that
>>557966969my frames never go above 60, they barely stay at 60
I'm basically like a goldfish, every time i try new weapon, i forget everything about the previous one, and I can't play 2 at once.
>>557967395me 2, but im slowly overcoming it
>>557967239also limiting the engine and not maintaining consistent frames breaks it as well g sync fixes this >npc inputs 1 jewish curse in 1 frame>engine takes 2 frames to understand jewish curse>npc jewish curse interpreted as lasting 2 frames instead of 1>breaks npc logic its actually a pretty neat effect in games like destiny or halo with projectiles>they don't know i secretly use esoteric magic to do twice the damage with the same inputhehhehahhhahehoooo
>>557966293Tonfa.
my fps never went below 60 until Bakumatsu this era just rapes my frames I don't know what would be so taxing here vs the constantly snowy map with snow footstep physics
>>557966738Horse dude bugging out and galloping in endless circles around you doing nothing is hilarious though
>>557968603There's a single place in the game that rapes my frames and it's Tokugawa's castle after the crucible.
so are fuku, hanzo and yagyu still dead after you beat the main story or not?
>>557935018There's a clan that gives you A agility if you wear the crimson set
>>557968603the same happened to meits shader caching breaking the whole gamemonsters not loading? models not loading? you'll start crashing at exactly the same point over and over sooni had to delete directx cache on ssd, and verify game files on steamsomehow just started working and hasn't happened again shader caching is the antrichrist
>>557910385>splitstaff>claws>badxe doesn't know lol
I swear most of these hosts would do better if they just tried the bosses without summoning
>>557934968My guy from Nioh 3, I think I'm pretty tanky
so what's a good clan that's not Todo then? I'm pirating so I'm always at foot soldier rank
>1kat feels like an entirely different weapon compared to the previous games, all parts of the kit now flow and connect between each other better, previously underutilized skills got massively buffed, Reverse Impact actually feels like its Shigurui counterpart, Severing Spin is amazing>fists are literally in the "improving the perfection" territory, got significantly better input layout that freed several spots for previously underutilized skills like wolf claw and stomp, unbreakable Limitless is borderline overpowered if you can suffer the punishment, frost moon gives its main gimmick even more power, elemental skills turned previously shitty attacks into decent nukes>axe finally feels like a fully fleshed out and realized weapon with absolutely incredible abilities, timed deflect can literally heal you to full, new crucible spin2win is possibly the most powerful and versatile move in the game, the ki pulse shove pressures shit into oblivion, out of all weapons axe feels improved the mostHow did your favorite weapons change, anons?
>>557971529kakizuki
>>557971529Something with a bonus that's always there. Off the top of my head Ii for the crimson thing and that clan that gives every spell sloth
How much healing on amrita absorption can you stack?
Looking for a Benzaiten Yasakani.So far I've got:Hotei x3KuzuryuHachimanInariEbisuDaikokuten(And on ninja Ebisu and Vaisravana, but I don't care much about ninja)
>>557969402No, you save them all. They are welcoming you as a shogun.>>557966293When in doubt, hatchets. They are the most unique ninja weapon.
>>557971529Shinsengumi's buff is supposedly also in the broken territory.Personally I'm using Watanabe,>>557971780Spear no longer sparks joy, but I can't quite place why. I use 2kat now (and 1kat secondary as before).
>>557971780i saw a few complaining but hatchets are straight better.
>>557972223Where are you farming them? I've only gotten a couple from spamming coop
>>557971780I guess they added a jump attack for spear
>>557972509Coop shogun last mission. I've got 1bilion on silverite by now.
>>557972780Three Oni or Sinister End?
cestus MAINS: what do you normally use during short windows (like vs big boss yokai)?
>>557973664ponmch
summoned myself
reforging my kintaro axe, what are the best stats? imbue water + high attack shit?
>>557973664High stance strong, Spinning Kick, Archer's Impact, even Defensive Drop Sunrise depending on a window. The new lighting combo extender should work too.
Does that ice arena on Death Veil just kill anyone summoned? I've fallen through the floor twice myself and just had my own summons fall through
>>557962020Melee Damage 7.6
whoever designed kagetoki as a boss should be dragged out into the streets and shot
i just got to baba and man this shit sucks
>>557972882sinister end
>>557975231ez first try
>>557974993I think having him in the gauntlet you farm the lilac smithing text from was a great idea
>>557972223scion of the gods, ng+, level sync, room with two jailer onis and grudge spirits (red ghosts), clear the spinning wheels first by shooting them out, then run it over and over, you'll be swimming in divines and amrita
>>557975669Is that better than the Sinister End room with all the blue robe guys?
>>557972223>>557975669also found several yasakani's there, but the best place to farm yasakani's is probably passageway shrine in sinister crucible, killing the 3 cunts over and over
I give up how do you get on this roof.
>>557976562download a trainer and set jump height
>>557976562go up the path to the right and theres some stairs
>>557974530>>557974262thx
why does confusion only last 2 seconds?
Damn Ibaraki was such a cool fight, and I switched to 2Kat like 1 hour before the boss so it was a great learning fight for the weapon.
>>557971529Kakizaki is fundamentally good
>>557971529>I'm pirating so I'm always at foot soldier ranki'm pirating and I still gain ranks. are you not donating gear?
>>557976786There is no path up to the right I'm going insane.
thanks for the clan recs bros>>557977270I didn't know that was possible lol.
>>557977114She is easily in top 3 fighs in the entire franchise for me. Just a very fun boss.
What weapon from the other Team Ninja games would you like to see in Nioh 3?For me it's oxtail blade from RotR, it's just got such a fun moveset.
What's that "ominous ki" pop up in crucibles?
>>557977347like all the way to right to where you are leaving the zone
>>557977553I really like her too. They could have made her extremely spammy like the others but didn't.
>>557977553Definitely my favorite fight in Nioh 3 so far.
>>557977825Mother fucking bayonet. God damn it, we even visit Bakumatsu!
what's the highest clan rank?
>>557977825I wish I could experience reality in your mind for just a brief moment because yikes brother. I'd like the RotR Bayonet but only if it gets an actual moveset
>>557978124Elder, you get it after 60k Glory for that clan. Best way to farm is with donating excess gear to them but remember to handle some of it towards the blacksmith (soul extraction/dismantle).
>>557978410oof i'm only halfway
>>557977825There was no reason for none of the RotR weapons to carry over by the Bakumatsu. Team Ninja was readily capable of expanding them for Nioh. They're either arbitrarily abandoned or being gatekept for the DLC.
>>557978410oh fuck my next step is only at 21k
>>557977895"strong negative ki" I remembered it wrong
>>557978609At the very least revolvers with rotr gun quirks would be a welcome addition to the stale nioh ranged options.
Maybe I'm not remembering right but I feel like the ROTR weapons were boring AF compared to Nioh weapons.
>>557978997Imagine if revolvers handled like guns from DMC.>doesn't zoom in>stays locked on to what you're locked onto>can juggle enemies in the air after you send them airborne with a move from one of your melee weapons
>>5579793141kat was good, but others lacked versatility.
Why should I level sync?
>>557979985Better dropsMore challenge
>>557979314was really a slap in the face fighting that archery master who does a bunch of cool bow moves that the player doesnt get and then you learn a skill from him that has nothing to do with archery
does luck effect item level or is it just quality?
is rise of the ronin any good
>>557980707no genuinely, anyone pretending that the combat works with only one attack button is a faggot
>>557980707i had funran even worse than nioh tho
why does caestus jumping hold triangle do like 1 billion dmg
>>557980707meh
>hino enma in nioh 1holy fuck lmao
>>557981581what's it called? is it a crucible skill? i have fucking 30 crucible cestus and its all the other 2 skills
>>557979314>added a bunch of unique NPC weapons>you can play them yourself, but only in the missions where you can bring those specific NPCs along and you have to control them>they even have tutorial videos showing off their different movies>Sword and Shield, Whip Sword, huge club, huge totem, martial arts, giga strength fists with suplexes and shit>they never let you use these weapons ever again or outside of these limited mission interractionst-thanks
>>557980707Held back by the ubislop open world. Combat is fine, I like it. Parry window is pretty tight if you are into rhythm games.
>Shinsaku's theme>realizing how utterly fucked this version fo Bakumatsu is, and that it was his last stand before we start changing things for the better
>>557981976nope its just dancing kick, does piss all dmg unless you land on them accurately
>>557980707It's ok
>>557980707It's fine for what it is, I had fun playing it. It has zero replayability or reason to keep doing missions once you're done though.
>>557981682I already have no elixirs and no way to buy antiphrasis. What a difference from nioh 3
i was talking a bit with another guy who's been autistically farming the same place as me, only he has seen every item slot drop lvl 170 shit and i haven't.only major difference between our two accounts is that he has done a lot of the side content in ng+ while i just beelined for the crucible bosses so now i'm wondering if i'm cucked out of seeing certain gear dropping cause of this shit
Anyone else notice that the bloody graves are buggy as fuck?
>>557984224I collected everything in NG+ to try weapons and I dont see that many 170.It doesnt matter in NG++ anyway.
>>557981682it's not so bad if you collect the full paralysis resist armor set from the cave
Is Ebisu 7pc + Righteous 5pc using Ho and Oh the best luck build for non crucibles?
>>557986369if this game was $40 they would have sold a lot more idk
>>557984689In what way?
>>557984224>>557985107Soo I'm full clearing 1st playthrough now(2nd map), am I going to need to full clear NG+ or can i just run past it and focus more on N++? Is loot fucked in any way if I skip past NG+ stuff?
please don't spoonfeed the retard
>>557984689Bloody Graves will always appear in the same locations, not where they actually died, easily seen through reloading the area over and over and finding new bloody graves from different people in the same location exactly. This also means that some locations don't get Blood Graves at all despite what would be obvious locations for them, so each place is either hand selected which is a weird choice or there is something wrong going on. Case in point, in the last act outside the red light district there is a cliff face that has a million bloody graves there, not because of fall damage, but because the boss in the other room which is locked until much later, yet the graves aren't allowed to appear near that room, so they appear a dozen yards away from that area and around the corner on the cliff side yet none of the corpses there have "died by fall damage"Furthermore, there is a weird connection issue where you constantly need to reset your connection as sometimes you'll just not see Bloody Graves for hours unless you rest at a Grace to refresh it
>>557986369Some anons are gonna be so pissed. lol
>abyssdia in 7 days
are people going to be butthurt in co-op if I run around in Crimson General 5pc for the A agility and max toughness as long as I don't die and consistently output damage? I know in some games people would see a set without damage focus and go on tilt
>>557986369I imagine some are waiting for all the DLC to come out before buying, I know I am. But I don't imagine that base to be on par with retail release numbers.
Why do enemies just sort of explode sometimes?
are crucible skills locked to certain crucibles? i swear ive spent like 3 hours farming in the warring states and heian crucibles but i still cant get the soaring fowl skill to drop
>>557987578You can't see another persons set, you can only see what they make your set look like in the fashion area.Co-Op is also basically just sanctioned cheating in Nioh. There is almost no scaling, and what little there is basically doesn't work. It's almost impossible to fail Co-Op so I don't think it's an issue. >>557987856In Crucibles or NG+? Modifier on enemies that when fire hits them, they trigger an explosion. It's a spell you can get on onmyo, but in crucibles, certain enemies have it as an innate trigger. Kinda like unique enemies in an ARPG will have different modifiers.
>>557987951>there is almost no scalingYou are so unbelievably full of shit lmao, literally fuck off and stop posting dumb shit like this. There's no usernames. If you want badass cred, go to Reddit.
>>557987951ng+ crucibles, I guess that explains it. I've been using that Fire Axe because I like how it looks
>>557988082retard
>>557988082He's right though, I got summoned into a coop and sith lightning Hino Emma a couple times and she died
>>557988082expeditions have scaling but not summoning
>>557988195>>557988235You guys are being so silly. You can go see it yourself right now. Co-op is definitely turbo easy mode but "there's no scaling" is not why and it is extremely disingenuous to use this line instead of something actually true
>>557988082>he doesn't knowAnon, if you're gonna talk with so much assurance, at least make sure you're right. Jesus Christ, you look like a complete idiot.
>>557941995to be honest I'm calling the game easy but i'm still on act 2 because i keep falling asleepas far as build goes I'm walking around naked with a tonfa and spear putting all my points in constitution.to me people saying "it gets hard 40 hours in, trust me bro" sounds like bullshit too.
>Last NinjaStealth damage bonus at AA- stealth (A from titles + set bonus) is... 25% fucking damage. Doesn't splash to ninjitsu but is still really fucking good for an armor set even if you can't get a 7 pc elsewhere. Really tempted to swap to that because its also a good deal lighter than Kusarigama Master.>Warrior's HonorDoes it work with ninjitsu and onmyo magic or just melee attacks?
>>557988332>there's no scalingHe said >there's ALMOST no scaling.Nice work lying your ass off to save face, you subhuman retard.
>>557988368let's boot up any boss you're familiar with in an Expedition and you can see for yourself queen
>>557988498>changing it to "expedition" now when the original wording was, "co-op"Like I said, subhuman retard trying to save face when everyone comes out to call him retarded. Just accept you were wrong and move on. It's not a big deal, you're anonymous.
>>557988494That's a nice tantrum and all but me leaving out the word "almost" in that post is neither dishonest nor incorrect. Stop being a pedantic little bitch - neither of the statements "there is no scaling" or "there is almost no scaling" is true.
>>557988623I think we can use passwords to join your coop too buddy
>>557988082Co-Op has almost no scaling. Expeditions do. Word your original question better if you are going to get this upset on asking a question, idiot.
i hate human enemies with random hyperarmour so much
>>557988623You get to limit "co-op" to the mode that suits you but I don't? Eat shit lmao. Either we're both right or we were both wrong with our generalizations. Grow up faggot.
>>557988660>pedantic>the language doesn't matter>when it changes the definition entirelyEsl or just retarded?
>>557988739>Expeditions and Story Mode aren't co-op2/3 of the co-op modes in the game have scaling>>557988851If you read the next sentence I show exactly why it didn't matter. Both statements are still false. Me leaving out a word didn't change the nature of both statements still being false and it wasn't misleading. This is pedantry at its finest.
>>557988776You were the one who got immediately aggressive and acted like a bitch when the original anon was just answering a question that was again completely correct. You were in the wrong for that alone, so I called you out for being a retard. If someone needs to grow up, it's the man child that immediately starts with "full of shit" when he's now admitted he was wrong. Again, retard.
just switched to todo clan, is this seriously how you niggas are playing the game?
>>557988941>trying to change the definition of something to win some shitty argument>I WASN'T WRONG THAT'S PEDANTICkek retard
You can barely make anything out, but it looks cool
>>557988751Humans don't have "random" hyperarmor but rather strict hyper armor. Goal is that your main punish windows are right after they use a skill to end a combo (though if a god on mobility you can chip in but no big combos).
>>557989148This is a Kato thread, keep walking
>>557989038He was flat out wrong, get fucked. He's being a cocky and uppity bitch saying that it's cheating "because there's no scaling" when there absolutely is in the only co-op game modes I had engaged in and where most of the playerbase is doing their co-op gameplay. Just because the niche Souls copycat co-op mode that nobody touches in this game because its inferior to real co-op (popularity of ER Seamless Co-op mode is definitive proof of this) doesn't have it isn't really relevant, is it?I matched his tone. Fuck off.
>>557989345>matched his tone>came out aggressive in the first place>when the original answer to the original question was simple and polite (and again entirely correct)Sure you did. Just because half the thread immediately called you out for being retarded doesn't mean you need to turn the entire thread into your weird personal venting pit. Get over it, you weird freak. It's a shitty internet argument. Also don't think I didn't notice you again trying to change the language to "no scaling" when it was "almost no scaling". Keep trying to save face and keep lying you subhuman retard.
thoughts on the new yokai enemies?
>>557989345>matched his toneThe original dude was pretty damn polite and just trying to help>you replied with>"you're so full of shit"That's not matching his tone, anon... That was very rude. Especially when the guy was entirely correct. >but I was talking about expeditionsYou only said "co-op"I was gonna keep out of this retarded argument, but you started it, anon. There is no "matching tones". You were the original asshole and aggressor.
>>557989148I tried it for a bit and there's no way I'm keeping it on, it'll ruin the game. It was already far too easy without it..
>>557986369Nice
>>557989762hate all flying enemies
>>557990509players asked for jump, now they have to jump
>>557991014>jumpJust use ninja shurikens and kunais bro
Groanzone
>>557991092but I one shot them bees anyway with my jump heavy
>>557990509https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-2-rw3irfU
Samurai and Ninja armor should not be fucking separated in the fashion tab.This is fucking bullshit. I wore tonnes of different sets in Ninja back in Nioh 2. And now I fucking can't because of this gay arbitrary bullshit. Fuck you.
>>557991469Use this if you're on PChttps://www.nexusmods.com/nioh3/mods/50
>>557991589I'm not on PC....
>>557986739Apart from just blinking out of existence mid-fight, the gear they drop doesn't correspond at all to the gear they use. The dev-placed samurai in A Sinister End has Nekomata as its guardian spirit. They're just all fucked up compared to the past games.
>>557985107i've seen a billion 170's, the problem is that i've seen ZERO in gloves, waist and chests. i've had countless weapon, head and feet drops at 170. something is scuffed.
>>557986369That's good right? I wonder if that's more than NG4.
>>557991954>blinking out of existenceMy theory is that's network related, perhaps a refresh in the network that tries to determine what revenants you summon causes summoned revenants to go back to their grave.>Gear not correlatingNot a glitch and more likely the devs limiting revenant trading, this has been a thing since Nioh 1 Way of the Demon/Wise because of how big it was in Way of the Strong.
>>557992880Definitely more sadly
>>557993236Is NG4 good? I played NG Black last year and it was so fucking annoying I didn't want to play the others lol. It wasn't "hard" in the Nioh sense, it was just full of complete bullshit like skeletons shooting homing arrows at you while climbing up narrow beams or robots shooting you during platforming or some of the stupidest inconsistent bosses I've seen that'll randomly hyperarmor out of nowhere. Also piranhas.I imagine a modern game won't be full of as much BS.
>>557993640I can't say definitively because I'm a huge fan of the series.. like I am for Nioh as well, it's such an ultra divisive game, you'll see people say it's the best action game ever and others who are convinced it's the worst ever.but personally yeah I think NG4 delivered and it does high difficulty really well. It doesn't have "annoying" parts at least besides the grinding stuff which is short and easy anyway. But if you really didn't like NGB I'm not sure if you'll like the others.While I love Nioh 3 is just way too easy and I've stopped playing for now, I'm hoping for patches. I can't say I'm thrilled by TN nerfing the difficulty in their games and getting rewarded for it.
How is Kusarigama in 3?
>>557994216I liked it overall. Combat was enjoyable and I liked how ruthless enemies were. It felt more like you just wanted to survive and kill efficiently rather than it being about doing stylish combos. I just hated the boss fights and some of the platforming bits.
I'm relatively new to Nioh. Why can't I bind attacks to different buttons? I have like 6 fucking parries on Guard + Triangle. Why the fuck do I need that many parries in a single attacks and why don't I have a single attack skill bindable there? I just don't get it. This is action game basic. I bought this game because it looked like a cool action game but the control schemes are extremely limiting related to martial arts...
>>557980707Yes.
>>557995136Haha..
>>557995650It's a soulslike, not an action game, buy ninja gaiden if you want action. Nioh can larp as one but you want 3 different G+Y moves you'll have to use the stance in samurai mode, in ninja style you'll have to pick only one.
>>557995870Please don't laught at my dear Kusarigama, I know it won't disappoint me.
>struggling with Hino Enma>summon someone>assume we'll kill her now but it'll be kinda fair>dude comes in looking like a cowboy>entire boss room is then nothing but tornadoes>dozens and dozens of tornadoes>she can't do anything as she has 10 thousand different debuffs on her and she dies almost instantlyt-thanksguess i know not to summon anymore
i switched to 1kat before the 2nd time you fight your broi dont feel like im hitting very hard or maybe it's that im being hit too hard. is it inadvisable to just switch the 1kat scaling to stamina and just throwing the heaviest shit on possible?
>game broke>can now see Nioh 2 hub area
I'm still gonna use Odachi, but man is it bad.
>>557980707It's okay.It's Team Ninjas version of Assassins Creed Japan. And it really does follow the Ubisoft type of game. Lots of things to collect, lots of little enemy camps, wide open world without a whole lot to do except go to the next point on the map. What it does do is decent, but don't go into it expecting anything amazing. It is a Japanese Ubisoft game.It also is very evident it's a Team Ninja game as weapon balance is all over the place. Some weapons get like 20 different stances. While something like Greatsword has like 3 and 1 is the basic starter one. Of which you don't get the others until you're mostly finished with the game.
>>557997613takechiyo........
Imagine a fight with Magoichi Saika in the skies
>>557998050>Rise of the Ronin GreatswordThat weapon was so much more fun than Nioh Odachi.Why didn't they just copy that weapon into Nioh????
>>557996382>>557995136I think it survived the transition pretty well desu. I didn't use it much in 1 and 2 though so maybe I'm wrong.
We won!
>>557998267Dude, a black guy stole your wings.
Why are people dooming spear? This weapon feels really good.
>>557998308i honestly bet theyre saving a bunch of stuff from rotr for dlc weapons and skills
>>557998665I only played it a little bit, so I don't know for sure, but it felt like it was only slightly better than Odachi, which is utter trash. So I guess that's why?
As a guy who primarily play on expeditions (I got pretty everything I want and just having fun testing things), it feels so much harder to squeeze damage out of Samurai style than Ninja. I can stack up martial arts damage as much as I can and still can't catch up with the dps my Ninja puts out, especially vs bosses. I'm thinking they should increase Arts Proficiency damage to balance things out. Then again, the game is already very easy.
>>557998665>This weapon feels really goodlolno, it's mid as fuck
>Played Nioh 1 and 2 a long time ago, finished them but remembered having a hard time early game (first few missions were shit iirc).>Heard 3rd game was too easy so I was happy about it.>Went in blind with 1kat Samurai.>Took one entire hour to win against first major boss (Jakotsu-baba), not even underleveled.Maybe I have extreme skill issue.
>>558001004you do indeed
this shit works, abuse it while you can https://www.reddit.com/r/Nioh/comments/1r9leex/the_cheapest_approach_to_upgrade_gears_to_15_with/
Where did I get the Guhin guardian spirit from? I don't remember who gave me this.
>>558002663yagyu at the start
>>558002712Ahhh right. Thanks.
>>558001851Thanks, anon. I finally have a +15 weapon!
does the crimson zephyr buff require you to have the sword and bow equipped as well or just the actual armour?
lol what is going on with my running animations?
>>558003578Have you tried reading the effect?
>>558003737yeah but video games arent always as straightforward as they appear and im not home right now to check
Finally made it into the Top 10%
This demon of pride is fucking overtuned lol. I don't even see his hp bar move when I hit him with my kusarigama lmao
>You have beaten a Bloodedge Demon who has killed over 10,000 Warriorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJYpsA5tv8
>game constantly eating my inputs>janky ass hitboxes>deflects not registeringMan this Yoritamo fight is buggy as fuck
>Fuma Cestus>Hiruko(who uses samurai 2kat)'s armor is ninjaI would unironically beat whoever decided in this gear bifurcation shit to death with a hammer.
You know - with all the problems Odachi has, I could probably ignore all of them, the crappy damage, the shitty ki damage, the awful selection of skills which share multiple of the same inputs leading to a very limited selection of skills overall...I could ignore most of this if it didn't just eat the shit out of your ki. I even respec'd my Odachi to Heart and Intelligence to max out Ki and Ki Recovery. And even still it feels absolutely awful to use when you're not in Arts Proficiency. Any of the higher commitment attacks too, like Ground Sweeper or Soaring Fowl, a single mistimed version of these even if you're in Arts Proficiency lands you on your ass with no ki when the enemy attacks you.It's absurd. This is the only thing that's stopping me from using it, it's awful ki management, despite all of it's other issues I could easily ignore. This here is the biggest fuck you. It feels so damned fucking janky to use at times.
>>557998308isnt it axe
>>558006786Nah, Axe is fun. But completely different to RotR Greatsword.
so how do we fix odachi?
>>558006916Lower it's fucking ki usage so you don't get winded if something sneezes on you while you're swinging it.I'd accept better ki damage, btt I'd prefer lower usage.
>>558006916shuffle around skills so half of them are not all sitting on the same binds then either buff damage 20-30% and cut ki usage by like half down or keep it ki hungry and mega buff damage
>>558006313oh also, I forgot to mention how swift step heavy just randomly decides to turn into flowing shadow for no reason
>>558006916As the other two anons said, Ki Usager is way too extreme. It needs to be halved at least.It's also got some of the worst ki damage in the game as seen by the google doc anon last night.Overall it's damage could also be increased, it's bizarrely low.Oh and move it's skills around. It has two, maybe three half way decent skills. All of them are on low stance.
burrr abusing mechanics
>>557998967>only slightly better than Odachi, which is utter trashWhat's wrong with Odachi in 3? I swear it was brainlessly strong in 2
>>557951086Where is the Itsumade in NG+?I just got to Bakumatsu NG+
>>558007959>Mid Stance now bounces from block unlike in 1 or 2>Much higher ki usage for everything>bizarrely low damage >bizarrely low ki damage (check the google doc)It just feels like a really shitty and extremely limited Katana. Instead of the cousin of the axe.
>>558008123>check the google docWhat google doc?
>>558008535https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A5c8Ch3gWt9Cft9CAwLzBg9PuBgqpWm1nOYGxEfiAYg/edit?pli=1&gid=649118079#gid=649118079Anon posted it in a previous thread.
>>558008535>>558008781Brehs... its literally in this thread -> >>557922034
>>558008781That is surprisingly low compared to 1kat lol
>>558008891You're right, I weirdly thought it was a new thread. But thread is just moving so slow when I went to sleep it's still the same thread.
>>558008891>>558008946>>558008781something tells me that they nerfed it when some dumbass playtester thought it had super hi ki break WITH the mastery that increases Ki damage "subtle blade", so they nerfed it like a retard
>>558008781>>558008123>almost all of the basic attacks share the same ki damage as the Katana despite being slower and using twice as much ki if not more>a lot of the skills are the same or only slightly strongerWhat the fuck is this bullshit?How is it so fucking bad???
>>558009042I was looking up how to use Odachi earlier today and I saw a video titled something like, "ODACHI IS SUPER OP" or something like that. Went into the video expecting to find some cool shit. Dude is killing bosses slow than I was while I was using some meme fist bullshit.
what the fuck did they do to the game to justify the 80$ price tagI'm currently playing through nioh 1 (that I got for 5 bucks btw) and there is no way its that much better than that fuku better come out of my screen and start sucking my dick for that price
>>558009746>CADindia spotted.
>>558006916ki usage is the biggest thing odachi feels very feast or famine where when youre semen gauge isnt full you get winded from a basic combo or god forbid a single use of moonlit snow and when it is full it feels like you have infinite but moderately low damage comboshonestly the more i play 1kat it feels like this is what odachi was meant to be with single hit high damage and high commit attacks like sword of meditation and reverse impact and odachi stance dance attacks feel like they would fit 1kat more
would you girlchiyos even wear some of the bottomless void's outfit?
>>558009746Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Nioh 3 is shorter and buggier than 1 and 2, and has a worse, worse-looking engine.The *only* cool thing I've picked out about 3 is that Raikiri has permanent lighting particle effects on its blade, and I saw a 2kat with permanent wind. That kind of stuff is cool.Everything else 3 did is uninspired dogshit.
>>558003731
pro wrestling mask?
>>557995136More like KUSOrigama
is ieyasu from nioh 3 the same one from nioh 1? he changed so much, he was an asshole/hard ass in nioh 1 but he seems to be super chill in nioh 3. is okatsu still alive? william? william's spirit lets him be immortal
kusarigama is pretty solid desu, it's one of the higher ki dmg ninja weapons, very fast breaks although you probably want to switch to a different weapon for dmg after you've broken them
>>558012450none of the nin weps do good damage unless you're behind enemies
>>558012347Same setting, so should be the same character.William and Hiddy don't show up, but are mentioned by other characters.
>>558008781>>557922034This is honestly insane depressing. No wonder playing through this game as Odachi felt so stressful at times. No wonder it felt like I was doing not damage half the time.It's a piece of shit. Coming off Rise of the Ronin and Greatsword, which itself wasn't that great, but absolutely destroyed posture bars and felt like a lot of fun to use, Odachi felt like an absolute piece of shit.I regret playing through Nioh 3 with Odachi... I could have been playing something more fun and with more power and having more fun the entire time...
>>558012347>he was an asshole/hard ass in nioh 1In 1 he had to deal with a fucking gaijin thinking he's worth the same as a Japanese man
>>558012347You're a Tokugawa in Nioh 3 too, he rikes u
This bullshit about crucible wraiths being unmarked and different in NG+ really baffles me.I just want to BUILD but instead I have to scour the entire game world just to find one NPC I'll kill in 3 seconds.Why would they do this?And of course all of the youtube channels, journoscum, and vidya websites have no information about Nioh 3 NG+, because they weren't ACTUALLY interested in the game, they just pretended for a week to get clicks.
>>558013007AIEEEEEEEEEEE TAKECHIYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>558013197What the FUCK was his problem
>>558013226>embodies his problems with u from the rare fiction that existed back then
>>558013226his older bro was cooler and hotter than him
Takechiyo is a woman btw
>woman>shogunkeklmao
Tonfa master is so funny, you can rape him completely but give him one chance to attack and he oneshots you, I can't hate the guy.
>>558013163What do Crucible wraiths in NG+ give you?
Why is my main weapon half the attack power of my ninja weapon? Level 85 and my tonfa has 700 power and it's level 70 while my cestus is level 75 and has 410 power? Is that supposed to be that way?
>>558014093tonfa has high atk power while cestus are generally lower atk power weps
Sex with Guardian Spirits.
>>558013226He wants to be shogun instead of the shogun
>>558013778Blue soul cores, which have 1 assignable slot, which will give me a staggering +0.8% martial arts ki damage.
>>558014175Hmm maybe cestus isn't for me considering for boss fights I actually use the ninja weapons more for damage and guard ki damage unlike when in samurai stance for cestus and that's me trying to do combos already with it. Problem is I think I am already almost done with the game? Currently at half of the heian period. Dunno which Sam weapon to choose now.
>>558014768Caestus can do high dmg. Don't take the dmg stat number too seriously. Fast weapons generally have lower dmg.
>>558014837No I know it can do high damage. It's just that I'm not good with the game enough. I don't even get why I lose so much ki doing combos for it and when I ki pulse to get ki back, I barely get any back. The green bar to indicate how much it'll give back for a pulse is barely visible.
>>558015053Certain attacks will consume the pulsable portion of the bar. Just go to the training room and find out what you're using that's killing your ki bar.
>>558015053nta but cestus are by far the hardest weapon to use; like you mention, the (heavy) moveset sucks your ki dry. you have to make really good use of the arts gauge... which the cestus have a special mechanic to milk (easily chaning martial arts/attacks), but you can't guarantee that against big yokai who dont give a fuck about being hit.you have to make really good use of the special ki pulse (foward + pulse) and the samurai tree's ki pulse attacks to keep pressure up when the gauge is down
>>558015112>>558015053i think it happens when you chain your attacks together (via the unbreakable?? skill). you have to be careful about mashing (in addition to the other shit i was rambling about)
>>558013330with big fat titties
>>558013330im going to turn mine into a woman for the dlc
I only ever use high stance for nigs that block for days and never with yokai
>>558015896kurama sword dance and severing spin are all i need
i feel like it's way way harder to ki break yokai into stagger state now that yokai skills like kasha are gone
>>558015682I looked around and checked different vids from previous Nioh's to this and the overall consensus is supposedly that Cestus is intermediate to technical to use while Switchglaive is considered technical, basically the hardest. Dunno if that's true but that's what I keep on seeing.
have any of you cunts gotten lvl 170 chest, gloves or waists? i swear to christ that shit doesn't exist in my game
The AAA spirit force bonuses on the blue demon cores seem too strong to pass up, plus you don't have to forge the C-grade bonuses on your gear if you were building around. Generally I don't think the guardian skills are strong enough damage-wise to warrant building around it like they expect you to do with summoning seal set bonuses but that's a lot of "free" utility to gain from equipping one or two soul cores.
>>558016203Break ki with aerial ninja moves and then play samurai on the ground to shred staggerable enemies.
>>558013226Mommy Fuku didn't give enough attention to him. Billions must suffer and perish within the unholy Crucible.
Why did they call it the "Crucible" when they're clearing saying "jigoku" which means hell?
>>558016239>Switchglaive is considered technical, basically the hardestlolbunch of retards
The op image keeps making me laugh when i open vg...
>>558016239for what it's worth, the arts gauge and that skill i was talking about (that more or less revolves around it) weren't in the previous games.
>>558016465Because Japanese is a word-poor language. They use the same words to describe a lot of different shit, whereas English has a different word for every occasion.
>>558016465Hell is good now chudcel
mutters quietly to myself: 'why did he call him a chudcel ?... thats fucking hilarious'
>>558016762There's literally voiced Amrita drops in the Crucibles where NPCs express utter terror and despair before succumbing...
>>558015797Why just the DLC, why not NOW
>>557996439yep that's certified kino right there
>>558008781put this in the op
>>558007924seeing you completely miss the ki pulse at the end caused me 3 psychic damageaieee
>>558013197lmao
>>558016465you wouldn't say "a hell has dropped from the death veil" since hell as a proper noun is used as a place (biblical hell) instead of a general descriptor, therefore you need to come up with some bullshit fantasy word which as >>558016753 says we have infinity of
Bakumatsu has a repetitive if even exhausting purple and red ambience but they really excelled at having the Death Veil be menacingly omnipresent compared to previous open fields
>>558018280Crucible is in the Bible
>>558018692you need to actually read it
I'm fighting the guy who goes crazy at the beginning of the game again. (Kunimitsu?)How much of the game do I have left?
>>558018918it's too long...
>>558018692>crucibleisnt it just hell? dunno why the localizers called it that
>>557971780Ki pulse shove with axe lets me unga bunga harder than ever before and it's beautiful.
>>558019402Apparently Jigoku can have different meanings than just straight up Hell and Crucible does make sense considering it transforms Amrita into Crucinite.
>>557998665Long committal animation times for most of its relevant damage, actually has slow startup/recovery on big hits unlike almost any other weapon and its moveset is full of stuff you should never ever touch. Feels fine in situations where you can just press shit and not worry about what enemies are doing. Its problems are a relic of Nioh 1 and all they've done with it since is bandaid on a really broken triple stab so you can ignore the rest of its kit because triple threat is that good
Rainbow Ruse is a ruse
>>558008781Damn, I was playing on hard mode the whole time with Odachi
>>558018691Bakumatsu's mood is very depressive, but the level design itself is amazing. I loved that fortified castle where shogunate troops have installed machineguns at chokepoints, forcing you to navigate a maze of streets to get through.
>>558009746Yasuda is on his hands and knees after RotR was an actual commercial bomb please understand anon
>>558008781>Full Body Draw: 622>Hand Cannon: 601I know everyone is too busy looking at melee weapons, but I like to point out that Full Body Draw gives bows one of the highest ki damage in the entire game for a negligible increase in draw time.
>>558020786But then you would have to use... bows (laughs)
>>558020786Should've been a skill, honestly.
>>55801912625%? The first region is much larger than the 2nd and 3rd.
>>558021176Sweet. Thanks.
>>558019846The visual design is goop, random red and black glowing crystals/spikes and plasticine goop all over the screen, all over the ground, all over the houses, all over the enemies and all over the skybox. Who needs concept art when you can just procedurally generate goop and throw it everywhere. Nothing is lazier than having a generic goop material asset that you use to fill in all the gaps where you don't have any good ideas for your environment, there are a million games which look exactly like this
>>558020613It's not about Meta shit for me. For me it's three things;>Ki usage is absurdly high putting it in a weird spot where you can't really do that many combo chains compared to other weapons making it feel janky in comparison>Skills are all in weird spots where the heavy after light or hold heavy have dozens more skills than anything else so all your other skills offer little to no versatility>changes from previous games in both control and usability and skills do nothing but make it worse, like reflecting off blocks in midstance as one example, just odd changes that overall ruin the weapons flowCombined, this makes the weapon feel both limiting and janky if you've touched on other weapons. Weirdest part yet is even Axe allows more versatility and flows better, which is just odd. It just doesn't feel good to use.Which sucks because I loved it in 1 and 2. And it was never meta back then.
>>558021338Yeah, I hate the crucibles in 3. It's just DUDE BLACK AND RED all the time. Visual vomit.
so the warring states region is the biggest, heien is like half the size, but how big is the final region?
we heard you liked red and black so we made the shinsengumi outfits red and black too because nobody actually wanted shinsengumi cosplay right hah hahWe actually tried the blue but it clashed with literally everything else on the screen because our entire screen is covered by a period filter
>>558021596About on par with Heian? There's also a minor region between the last one and heian, about the size of 2 battle scrolls taped together.
>>558021596Bakumatsu is smaller than Sengoku but larger than Heian.
>>558008781I love swallow's wing water. It's so busted.
>mid stance normals bounce on blocks now>this doesntIm thinking some one wasnt fucking paying attention during balancing pass
>style shift flow works with just burst breakthis leads me to believe that repel expert works with just burst break too, hmm...
>>558022034It's secretly one of the best 1kat moves, which is why you get it close to the end. It's like having a free water onmyo on it.
I wish katana had better manual combos instead of 1button cutscene slash spam.
>>558022121It's technically a skill, and no skills bounce. The issue with Odachi bouncing in mid now is that it's so long, so if they're aggressive and hold up their block too at the right time, you can't get your combos off. And Odachi does some of the worst Ki Damage for how slow it is and how much ki it uses.This is only one of the many reasons Odachi sucks ass.
>>558022408It does, you're just shit with it.
>>558021596We could've used another open field but it would need to be different. This game is simultaneously too short but also repetitive compared to 1 and 2.
>>558022121Generally all samurai weapons got massively improved but it feels like whoever designed Odachi didn't do his job. >no guard + X skills for neither low or high stance despite the fact there are too many hold triangle skills>bolting boar lost its entire purpose>gutted block bouncing
>>558009746Weapons like the 1kat and axe got a lot of new game changing moves.You get a lot of moves early from just grinding out familiarity for the new crucible weapons (droppable from in basically the final dungeons of regions (eras)). Moves that you'd have to farm specific bosses for like literally 78 fucking times in a row. Whetstones don't grow on trees though.Moves like severing spin went from being memes to meta.A lot of moves get super versions of them now that either totally change how they work and/or outright improve them almost altogether.You lose traditional movesets for weapons like kusas and splitstaves, but there are a bunch of ninja weapons with their own movesets now, they also have far more aerial combat capability than samurai (classic nioh style) weapons. Nioh 3 ninja hatchets are apparently way better than nioh 2 hatchets were. Tonfas are the best ninja weapon in the game and the only ninja weapon that can compete with the damage output of samurai weapons apparently as well.Areial combat is a thing. It's not devil may cry, and all samurai weapons have are launchers and plunging attacks, but there is far far more going on than with elden ring's jump attack spam for example.Frost moon, proficiency, and deflecting are all really fucking good expansions to the combat that raise the skill ceiling even further.Guardian spirit skills replace soul core abilities, so they're tied to specific GSs now, they're less powerful on average, and there's far less variety, but you don't have anything as crutchy as ippon datura or kasha beyblades either. You can still eventually cancel with your burst counter through the new skill (perks) system, but there's no feral dodge, so that's less of a crutch too.1/2
>>558009746>>558022756The open worlds are basically just supermassive nioh levels made up of small to normal sized boundaryless nioh levels. Crucibles are basically just straight nioh levels. And a lot of the main mission objectives take you to places that are pretty much straight nioh levels as well. Basically amounts to you feeling like you're playing a nioh game with far less menus and loading screens getting in the way of actual gameplay. Feels completely different from ROTR's or elden ring's open worlds. It's like nioh style metroidvania if anything.Plus there's battle scrolls, which are just traditional mission based nioh levels. Albeit, most of the battle scrolls are just boss rushes right now. Otherwise scrolls are also how you replay main missions and such.Qol improvements like refashioning being tied to your equipment slots now and being free. You can auto pick up loot and auto offer/disassemble/sell now. You can refund everything from skill points, to levels, to titles for free limitlessly. There's an auto equip button that auto equips your best gear for you based on what weight grade you want to maintain. Clans save your position and share bonuses at certain position levels across transfers, so you can mix and match any 2 clan bonuses now.2/2
>>558022678or spear, or claws, or splitstaves
>>558022517This is why the mission style is so much better
>>558022992Spear is literally in the "trying to perfect a perfection" territory.Claws are literally one of the best ninja weapons. Splitstaff yes, that one needs way more inputs. It needs a iai input for roar power for example and i'm baffled there's none.
>>558021462I am pretty bummed knowing that TN will most likely stick to crucibles as the BIG MAIN DUNGEON gimmick of this game because they tied a hp cap mechanic to it so they are now compelled to have them. The combat sometimes makes me forget the visual diarrhea at least.
>>558023159Crucibles are generally smaller or the same size as the side dungeons, that's literally not an issue.Warehouse and floating temple in Bakumatsu are both amazing.
>>558021338yeah it's pretty bad in this game
>>558023282they heard the complaints about infinite labyrinth missions with endless identical corridors like the final dlc missions in 2 and went too far in the other direction
>>558023101i've never heard anyone praise talonsapparently its beyond infinity does retarded ki damage tho
>>558023448I love them. By far my favorite ninja weapon but I don't use ninja that much because of deflect.
>>558023448Talons are solid.Whirling Tiger is a very fast, decently damaging forward moving combo. I'd say it's one of the best gap closers in the game.Archer's Impact with Tiger Claws also gives you insane forward momentum.It gets several strong fist abilities like defensive drop sunrise and beyond infinity in case you don't use cestus or want to free some inputs for it too.But above all, it's probably the most mobile ninja weapon. It has insanely fast dodge, possibly the fastest of them all. You can zip around like a complete motherfucker.
>>558023448Talons are in the camp of "deals 0 dmg". Like even compared to other Ninja weapons it seems to be a wet noodle.
How much damage am I supposed to do per swing at lvl 77 with a 1kat? Cause I'm doing ~130 right now and it feels kind of shit.
>>558022756i'm still waiting for 2/2 bro
>>558024069that's cool>>5580244681kat is about spamming skills. especially reverse impact.
this damn cucumbers have too much freaking health
>>558024924>1kat is about spamming skills.but.. I run out of stam after 3 skills
>>558025253your ki pulse?
>>558025198i think they are weak to fire
what is the best way of dealing with human enemies with 1kat? are you pretty much stuck with using parries to deal any real dmg?
>>558024567? >>558022976
>>558008781Where's the motion values on this thing. Also this doesnt specify if he's counting normal ki damage or combining normal ki damage + max ki damage, and noting max ki damage is important as a seperate state for breaking yokai for a big grapple
>>558025767he actually does state that this is ki damage and not max ki damage if you read the intro sheet
>>5580254911 tap them with meditation sword.
>>558025767Press on the other tabs, anon. Yes, it's that bad.
>>558027138you don't get that way later into the game reeee
>looking through tier lists of weapons and their reasoning>Talon and Switchglaive rated SSS tier???I've never touched them before but anons have consistently rated them trash.Who is right?
>>558027357You could get it in the demo.
>>558027448Sitchglaive was trash for me. It was slow, especially the recovery frames. The damage didn't make up for it. The stance swapping skills fuck with my ki pulses and frost moon, and mystic skils are centered around it. I also just dislike the aesthethic.I haven't used talons since the demo, but they felt like worse tonfa.
>>558027448Switchglaive is probably the second most mechanically advanced weapon after the cestus. It gets ranged attacks, it gets attack with deflect frames, insane reposition tools, stance switch attacks, probably the best sheathe attack in the game. It's genuinely well designed and has tools for everything, even something as niche as projectile repel.
>>558027448switchglaive is ass
>>558027448>>558027671Switchglaive is amazing, or at least it was in 2. Haven't used it in 3 but if they kept it the same it should be a top 3 weapon.
Where are they?
>>558031812dlc
>>558031828Lame.
>>558031894most of nioh 3 is just the slightest bit lame
except deflectingdeflecting is the big dopamineCHINNGGG
I'm convinced this dual sword ability is a psyop by the devs and doesn't actually exist. Literally hundreds of crucible dual swords later and not one has ever rolled that onto them, just the two others.
I think I'll play through entire NG+ and NG++ cycles with Cestus. I wanted to learn it in previous game, but never actually committed to it.
>>558032317i got it like 90 seconds into the first crucible
>>558032317It was the first one I got, but I got Demon Thrust only like halfway through NG+.
>>558032368caestus are pretty fun but i still don't really know how to use them
>use moonlit snow once>about 70% of my ki gone>can only ki pulse up to about half my ki>using another attack or god forbid another moonlit snow at this point and getting hit lands me on winded statusWhat the fuck is with the ki usage of this weapon? Axe never felt so damn abusive on my Ki...
>>558027448Those are my two favorite weapons. Anons are probably scrubs that can't get good.
>>558031812So you want 99% reused assets, innit, the 98% we have now disappoints you. A true Team Ninja fan extraordinaire
>>558037891I'd prefer they'd recycle everything from the past games and add more on top.
>>558037891If they recycled 99% we'd have gotten better enemy variety than now
>>558027448>Switchglaive enjoyerIt's still really good even in the land of nerfed Barrier Talisman. All the skills remain and being able to more effectively combo into Infinite Retribution//Windswept/etc. is very appreciated. Also wind on Cyclone makes it a very reliable wind applier even against humans, not all weapons have such spammable luxury. Two main hiccups for me though.>Mystic artsBit more fickle to manage due to its lowered duration meaning you have to be more aggressive with the change skills early into an encounter.>AirYour running attack is ass as it lifts you to the air and the air attacks always feel like you wanted them just a little longer in the range department.>Topic of durationSeems full set that Sage on Ninja gives both forms around 70% extended duration at max level so if anyone is having buff issues on a Samurai build, try that on Ninja so it can contribute something (affixes and + levels don't matter, just raw item level).
>I WILL BE THE SHOG-ACKI didn't know you could enter camera mode during cut scenes, though it requires camera shortcut to be activated, which is turned off by default.
>>558012347In the sengoku map? William would be 9 and Okatsu not born yet.
Wish the game looked like this more often. I hate that ugly black and red bullshit.
>>558039371Same. First map was by far the best.
When can TN make a survey so I can ree about the weird ways they made the UI worse? It's dumb we can't sort by set bonus and it's dumb we can't filter inside the Sudama blessing. Worst part is the inventory UI for N3 is generally good so idk why this had to be sacked.
>>558039160What the hell was his deal anyway?
Does anyone know what is causing some divines to weigh less than their non-divine counterparts? I have Hierloom chestpieces of two rarities, 3 as divines that are 9.0 while the epic rarity one is 9.6 weight. Main meme theory I have is if it's something to do with graces as this isn't the case with innate set items like the brave demon hunter pieces.
>>558039762>UpdateOn looking more it's only heavy armor pieces that seem to be doing this, medium/light armor pieces aren't lighter when a divine but then heavy armor gets about 10% lighter by getting a grace?
so many air commands are just completely scuffed and get ignored if you try to chain them
how does co-op work exactly? do we get scaled down when joining or is it just unfair and all things are one shot because of a much much higher gear than the host?And how do you do damage with cestus, it's pretty fun but an Axe with rampage does a shitload in comparison.
>>558042767Enemies do get scaled but it's still a stomp since the game isn't designed around multiple characters. It's super easy to circle an enemy, combo their back when they focus on another person, and go to town on them when they break. Bosses become hilarious stomps when you have 1 player spamming ninjutsu arts and constantly inflicting them with all 4 elements and stacking confusion.
Attention fellow Niohggers, where the fuck is a list of all the farmable smithing texts?
>>558042136you mean air commands like the jump button which fails to jump about 50% of the time?
>>558042136yeah it's kinda toughalso some arts/air attacks have hard lockouts on how many buttons you're allowed to press after them, really gay
What happens to smithing mats once you reach the 9999 cap?
why are the monster drops so rare? consumables make 0 sense to craft
>>558042136i started disabling like 2/3 if a weapon has them (assuming they are similar and 2 are shit)
>>558044981idksame shit ass drop rates since nioh 1
90% of my deaths are dropping block early... i forget which game did this to me; one where the block doesnt drop in 1 frame... did elden ring or something do this? i know it's learned/based on something, i just cant remember what
>>558043976I thought it was just me. Same with Hold Y coming out of a burst break. You've gotta press it when the game is ready.
>>558042767People say summoning is easy mode in Dark Souls / Elden Ring which isn't strictly true. Summoning in Nioh is actually easy mode>Expeditions, instead of having any sort of punishment when you go down, players just pick you back up, even if you suicided off a cliff>Something like 4-5 downs before your revive bar is depleted.. which just respawns you at the checkpoint anyway>You can also self-revive>Scaling is harsh on HP but generous on damage, so level 150s can shit out ridiculous damage at level 1 enemies>Absolutely stagger-lock enemies from ki damage>Or just stand there charging up some ridiculous attackThat said it's still a fun game, but it barely feels like the same thing in co-op. I think co-op has been designed as "play with your wife mode and carry her stupid ass"
how do you get this guy
How is multiplayer in this game? Want to know what I might miss if I wait for more content and sales
I'm in NG+ and apparently I haven't gotten a single tiger of kai piece
Nioh 1, I just beat "White Tiger" after about 20-30 attempts. Whats the point of the ki system in this game if it means absolutely nothing on monsters or bosses?Every single boss I've had to play low guard and you can never finish a combo on them, if you ki pulse also you die, so the only way to play ki is holding D pad & running for your life to recover while punishing the 1 opening they all have, and if you play aggressive, every boss has a random rng delayed extended combo that you cannot dodge or block to punish aggression which just ends your run randomly? So youre left fishing for the end of the animation and then just walking in and getting your 1-2 free hits, with the occassional telegraphed "heres the boss' weak spot to whittle it down, you get 1 hit" This isnt interesting and its just quite tedious. I was under the impression you could boss rush and play it like Sekiro or something and actually break stamina gauges and really do flashy things, this is just fucking roll slop and dark souls so far. Im really trying to give the game a fair shake and have picked it up multiple times to improve and maybe learn. So far my objective analysis in good faith is>Every single fucking mob has hyper armor and stamina/ki doesnt matter>Ki can go to 0 on a mob and it doesnt matter, it will keep swinging at you and be hyper aggressive>Ki only matters on humanoids who actually get punished/executed for having no kiFrom what im gathering, everyone who has gaslit me about "how much you can do" is talking about NG? And, on your actual 1st playthrough, you have to play it like roll slop Dark souls 1?
>>558047824I haen't played Nioh 1 in years but isn't it the same as 2/3? >Humans run out of ki, can be grappled>Yokai run out of ki, can be staggered on any hit >Reduce their ki "maximum" and grapple
>>558048013What is "stagger" really? No matter what, the ki gauge is empty/red and theyre just going apeshit and if I swing at them mid combo, they just hyperarmor through my swing and fucking kill me, so Im always dying to Yokai that are about to die but I overcommit and they just gay the shit out of me with 0 ki when theyre a few hits from deathSo the only option for me is to just ignore the ki bar on Yokai, it means absolutely nothing afaikThey dont take more damage, they dont get stunned by my hits bc hyperarmor and they dont give a fuck at allThe only thing it seems to do is randomly force them to reset their ki gauge with a little yokai shit pulse and give me a few more hits when it goes to 0
>>558045618i'm pretty sure it's not fromsoft games
>>557995869I like the actual sarashi. How are the muscles in that game?
>>558048013the concept of maximum ki started in 2. when yokai are out of ki they lose their passive permanent hyperarmor. so if you attack them while they aren't doing an attack and keep them in hitstun they will never do anything
>>558047824The ki system for yokai is unique because it doesn't regen, when their ki goes to 0 they now completely lose hyper armor. This means you get essentially combo them for a certain period of time before they recover so part of your goal should be to use moves that specifically deal good ki damage so you can get to that state where you can combo them. That's not to say many enemies don't leave big opportunities for punishes that just outright deal a lot of damage cuz they do. As for the ki pulse system itself. You do not need to focus on getting perfect ki pulses. One of the things every nioh player should learn, no matter the game, is to learn about ki flux. What flux does is that after attacking with a move, if you then switch stances during the ki pulse state, you will recover additional ki. If you do this from a perfect ki pulse, with some attacks this can actually refund you more ki than you started with but more importantly it allows you to ki pulse as soon as possible with a lot of moves, ki flux, and then gain as much or more ki as a normal non-flux perfect ki pulse. This is what allows players to be very fast and aggressive with their gameplay. They can ki pulse earlier and flux and still have ki. Vs Human enemies it's very simple: use parries. Every weapon has parries vs humans for a reason, use them. At a higher level you can learn to combo humans to death after they're out of ki but that's not as fun/interesting. That being said in Nioh 1 it is a bit scuffed vs human enemies that get living weapon because they then have hyper armor on EVERYTHING which is a lot more difficult to deal with than yokai (which are balanced around their hyper armor) Esseentially: git gud and stop pretending it's the games fault. Again you bitch about their ki going to 0 and it not mattering when yokai literally lose all hyper armor and every attack staggers them and this is consistent across all of the games with 0 difference.
>>558048717How much longer do I have in this shit game until im done? Just beat White Tiger, my autism wont let me play 2-3 till ive beat itIjust want to play the interesting version of this game because I do like the systems but I wish they actually fully commited to them instead of making it half assed dark souls skin. Im bored of 20 minute boss fights where its just chip damage
>>558047770might be one of those you need to craft first
>>558049043>20 minuteur bad lolwhite tiger is like...60%? 70%? of the base gamebut you aren't gonna skip the dlcs like a pussy are you?
>>558049128How am I bad bradar this boss is bullshitI basically just ran and did 1-2 low guard hits after every lunge > swing he did and then hit after eye beams, not my problem if he wants to spam lunges for 5mins and not beam/swing at me
>>558049296white tiger has like 2 hp just drop his ki to 0 then 100-0 it with LW
inb4 you come back with some retarded shit about "noooooooooo i dont want to cheaaaaaaaat i want to intentionally play on hard mode then complain about it and call the game shit"
>>558049791>>558049885This is what I meanI feel like I must be missing some fundamental part of the game if it can be played differently Ive gotten his ki to 0He then stands there for a sec and does that pulse and drops a yokai turd and gets his ki backWhat do I do there? 100-0 outside of NG+ possible? Whats LW? Look at my stats
>>558049791>living weaponhow would you 100-0 it with living wep? does my weapon matter? am I underlvld?
>>558048985I miss how dark Nioh 1 is. I don't think it'd work with the open field that much, but I'd really like a much darker night level.
>>558050062>>558050185ok i looked it up. that mission is 9 out of 28. the recommended level is 62. if your item level is not around that level you will have a bad time. the game insists that you do some side content or you won't be able to beat it.
>>558050062>I feel like I must be missing some fundamental part of the game if it can be played differentlyWhy are you ignoring the long post above that literally explains what you're missing
>>558050062Of course you're a red demonlet.
>>558050495his armor looked cool and I just beat him....
>>558050495sasuga ii clan
>>558050198Nioh 1 has an underrated art style. It's not flashy but I think it's goal was simply "grimdark" japan, which gets more and more twisted as you delve deeper into the game. The atmosphere is fantastic because fo that but isn't "flashy" enough for the zoomies who claimed it was boring or ugly when there really aren't any games like that around the time Nioh 1 was out that weren't old PS1 or PS2 games. Also obviously "le graphics" which I dont think matter when the style is good enough. Nioh 2 did try to upgrade it's style and colors more but it also went extremely far with the particles and hit effects that make the game less readable and a vomit of colors surrounding the player and enemies. Nioh 3 amps this up even more
>>558050664I think the grimdark Japan look really sold that yokai are terrifying demons. I especially miss the really inky particle effects and more washed out and subdued colors 1 had that made the yokai feel like they had jumped off the paper of the original 100 Demon Night Parade.
>>558050664Fully agree. I was really obsessed with the game when it was on the PS4 and I played over 1500 hours which was way more than any other game I'd ever played at that point. There was nothing like it.
>>558051093the industry as a whole dropped that whole "inky blackness" lighting and i am so fucking sad about it
This yokai hyperarmor loss is bullshitYou sit there when their stam is 0 pwning them wit stagger then they do some instant hit that one shots you and suddenly their ki is at 100 lol so you just have to die again to learn when they decide to explode and reset their ki also, what a waste of timejust did the twilight mission after white tiger and I listenned to anon and broke his ki, then did my full combo, and he was getting staggered but then insta fucking exploded point blank range and his ki is at 100 and im dead to 3k damage
>>558051805This is Nue isn't it
>>558051841Literally the instant his ki is 0 he just does an animation that does 3k damage if youre next to him and his ki is back to max lol this is insaneI thought I was gonna have a learner moment but guess not, just gotta trust my instincts this whole game is bullshit and just ds1 skinned over,c ant wait for it to be overno its the huge demon guy you fight with backup, guy with a hammer joins the fight, its a twilight mission after white tiger
>>558051805Wow it's almost like part of the game is learning the timings of when enemies regain ki. It's not literally brainless mashing. Also not all yokai will attack when they refresh their ki but yes some do and you need to watch out for it. It's just a part of the game you have to learn. Not gonna bother giving anymore advice. Your kneejerk reaction to not understanding the game is to go "THIS IS BULLSHIT THIS IS POORLY DESIGNED UUUUUUUUUUUGH" and you're not gonna get anywhere with that attitude and might as well stop playing Nioh entirely and never touch a Team Ninja game again, you don't deserve it.
I've played this game all month without knowing there was a solo expedition option
>get to Hiruko>1st phase doesn't seem too bad>2nd phase he starts shooting laser beams from a mini sunah...I think I'm going to need to sleep on this one
>>558051805>i have to pay attentionnoooooooooooo my kryptonite
>>558052039I dont deserve what? Im beating the game lol its basically over apparently im 80% doneAnd yes, its not interesting at all to have bosses that all boil down to>combo>extended combo with animation lock at end>fast combo with a feint>huge telegraph with free weak spotIts just tedious and it is bad designAnd yes, the ki going to 0 and randomly needing to die to learn when its going to go back up is bullshit, it should flash or something for a sec instead of just sending me to the death screen for actually winning a fight, its unfun and removes the hype/momentum of doing something now I just have to tediously reeload and again, hold the nigger d pad and run away and just not do that againI am looking forward toi playing the real vision the developers had which I assumed Nioh 1 would be like, which actually rewards you for actually reading an enemy and timings, and doesnt force you to basically do the same timing read playing safe for fucking `15 minutes Thanks for the info tho, dontget why yoiure making it personal
>>558052626my memory was wrong. the white tiger mission is main mission 9 out of 28.
>>558052626also you are a fucking retardshut the fuck up, retard
>this is boring rollslop ds1 gameplay where u have to chip away at nigger bosses for 10 years>no it isnt, they akshually lose their hyper armor if you ....>yeah sorry they actually regain it 0.1 yoctorseconds after u broke their ki and you have to disengage haha just joshing yaso we are basically at square 1 re: my 1st post, the game is just d pad running simulator lol, hopefully 2-3 let you stay and actually use dodges/parries/blocks and isnt jus a bunch of giant gay bosses doing laggy cleaves at you as you run for your life
go back to /v/.
>>558053030I will give you one chanceI will never post in here again if you can post ONE example, webm, video anything of someone actually boss rushing in Nioh 1 outside of NG+Seriously, I will NOT post EVER again in this thread after THIS POST, if you can reply to me with one boss rush that makes the "D pad run away" point moot, even on a single boss, ONE boss.
>first DLC is called Hell Rising in other countries, but Keian Uprising in China>occurs a year after Iemitsu diesThere's opportunity for this Nioh 3 DLC to see Iemitsu and several other daiymos and warriors to be sprung up from the dead, perhaps under the influence of Maria
Do Nioh 2 character codes transfer over at all or did they rework the character creator to where it's not compatible?The sole reason I haven't started playing yet is not wanting to spend 3 hours in the character creator again.
what's this fag screeching about?
>>558054797Looking back at Nioh 1 footage now is so interesting. It's like looking at the framework of a house.
>>558054697They're separate engines altogether of course it won't work
fucking kek at 50000 buffs + items and NG+ and its still sped up 500% just fucking laughingthis sealed it for me, the game is ds1 and the only way it isnt is with an entire inventory of items holy shit at that giant bomba he throws fuckin fell out of my chair
>>558053092https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX9nHKSbeWPhj0yz0LqE18vrJpFd28jEq
@5580hes literally confused + DoTticking for more damage than my mid stance swings lol
>>558055435>open up two kings no damage>hes instantly sprinting in a circle for 30 seconds LOL
>>558055581>runs in one circle for less than 10 seconds to recover his grave>in a meme damageless double boss fight
Damn he's kinda kicking my ass in Phase 2. His punish windows are tiny.
>>558056583he's pretty tough
>>558056583He's one of the fights that kills performance and inputs for me. Nioh 3 has significant problems with inputs even with a recorded 60FPS.
the only thing i really dont like about 3 is that if i want to play a new game ill have to do open world chores. it fucking sucks
>>558057582do you actually have to tho? you don't get enough spirit force to use 2 back to back skills until wayyyy late in the game and you certainly don't need every secret skill text.
Does this work?
>>558059668Yes actually.
>>558059668what the fuck
>>558059668fuuuck I forgot there's weapon upgrading in this game. that's why my damage is abysmal.
>>558060605Sweet
>>558047151You just go there and pick an item that's lying there
I've found four yasakani in A Sinister End and they've all been ninja. Can that fucking corpse even drop samurai yasakani?
>>558060982 (me)Just tested it. I'm now the proud owner of a +15 Hatchets. It resets every time its dropped
>Apply confusion while shredding boss ki and literally flying around as Ninja.>Switch to samurai and perform all the combos I've ingrained from fighting small enemies.>After 2-5 times the (NG+) boss is dead.This game is just so fun I'm not sure I can go back to 2.I am the untouchable acrobat and the unga bunga at the same time. Yin and yang.Bravo team ninja.
>>558059106i don't want to even consider it, thoughlike have you memorized which is which? and then there's the skill points, there's the weasel arts, etc. and you don't have shrinesnext minute you're googling where shit is before ng+ and you'll want to kill yourself
>>558062821you don't actually have to have anything to just beat the game, it's not that hard, that's my point
>>558062806how do you make confusion last more than 2 seconds
>>558059668What content are you going to use a +15 weapon on exactly?
>>558062968there's that one set that 6 set bonus is "melee attacks extend debuffs" which works on everything.also in the time it takes confusion to wear off you should be able to do enough damage to fill your ninja meter again so you can do it again.
>>558062958i'm talking about acquiring the shit so the buttons i press do what i want them to do
>>558062985My armor sets are all going to +15 too and then I will go back to Nioh 2 and finally beat that dlc
>>558063123>applies confusion>boss starts some combo chain/literally flying around>confusion endsi don't play with sloth talisman
>>558063195like what? crucible skills? they are random so it doesn't matter what you do, everything else you can just ask an LLM to scour f*xtra or some shit and then go get it
>>558063396yes...and then...you reapply it........are you el retardo?
>>558063467yea, that's what i'm fucking talking about. glad you finally arrived at my first reply
>>558047824Use the Onmyo talisman Kekkai when fighting yokai bosses like White Tiger. It dispels yokai pools when you walk into them, which will prevent them regenerating their anima bar. To destroy their anima faster, use skills in conjunction with low or mid attacks. For example, 1kat has kick and for skills while holding block you can use ki pulse. Do not bother with high stance attacks on yokai. They never block and high stance has slow attacks. Also hit them from behind as it does more damage, plus if you have the Kato guardian spirit equipped you will do more raw damage (honestly, Kato is the best guardian spirit in the game). Equipping a weapon that has the earth element to it will destroy anima and stamina faster.
>>558063572your post said "open world chores"crucible skills do not come from open world choresyou are illiterate
>>558063552but i didnt attack during that so my ninjitsu arent back up. lol
>>558063682skill issue
>>558050198Nioh 1 has a more horror vibe than Nioh 2. Nioh 3's atmosphere appears to be inbetween the two.
>>558063643skills, masters, weasels. you are extremely low iq. funny how someone telling me to use a chatbot can't work it out themselves.
>>558063123This, and you don't really need it to last very long. On bosses with large hitboxes like the guy riding two fish or kasha (provided you're attacking from wheel-to-wheel) you only need 3-4 passes with aerial nin1kat to completely deplete purple ki and make them staggerable.>>558063396nin1katKINGS can hit bosses when they're flying around no problem. Also a surprising amount of enemy attacks can be reliably and completely dodged with jumping.
>>558063789>>558063643and you still need enough ninja/samurai scrolls to load it all up. do you understand?
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