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Another day another RPCS3 regression.
>>558016341even with presets, you miss the quick response and instant feel of a CRT, and the way it refreshes the image will be different than an LCDyou can try to make it seem similar visually but it will still act very differently when it comes to how it creates the image on screen and how it refreshes
>>558033983It's crazy how they simply refuse to port this game properly. I imagine we'll see a decomp within the next year or two. It shouldn't have to come to that, though.
>>558058186Why do you think lost odyssey wasn't ever ported to other platforms?Modern lazy incompetent devs can only handle ps3 ports.
>>558062256I guarantee you a 360 game is easier to port on average, especially one on UE3 like Lost Odyssey. The 360 at least has an API in common with PCs. Neither are a cakewalk to port to PC with their proprietary unified GPU+RAM setups + PPC CPU, though. Sorry man, your post is kinda stupid.
>>558057543>quick response and instant feel of a CRTWhat did you expect from ‘post-processing’ and emulation/simulation, bro? Doing your laundry? Giving you a blowjob?That said, CRT beam simulation actually has some potential if your display has a high refresh rate and decent pixel response time.https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Shaders,_presets_and_filters#Display_Hardware_Requirements
I imagine Itagaki's team just didn't preserve the source very well for 2 and Sigma 2's is just more accessible or better documented somehow.
>>558063727>What did you expect from ‘post-processing’ and emulation/simulation, bro?i wasnt the one bringing it up. im just pointing out you cant ever 100% replicate how it feels to use a CRT.
>>558064516>you cant ever 100% replicate how it feels to use a CRT.Literally nothing in life is 100% replicable bro.People run CRT shaders precisely because they're the closest thing we've got until something actually beats old tube tech shows up at sane prices. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯We're still basically stuck in the AH-IPS / "OLED is the future bruh" era from ~2014. Motion clarity, blacks, response, phosphor decay, zero-lag analog feel, impulse scanning, etc. Modern panels still suck ass at several of these compared to a good Trinitron or PVM.MicroLED? QD-OLED mass-market prices? Wake me up when it's not $10k+ for a tiny panel or some gimmick watch display. We've been hearing "next year" for a decade now.Until then, shaders (or ShaderBeam) + high-refresh HDR LCD are what people actually use to chase that feeling.
>>558067192if you want to build a retro setup from scratch it will always be cheaper to buy a CRT than to buy some high refresh rate 4k monitor
>>558067384My PC is my retro setup bro, I'm not buying anything *specifically* for retro
>>558067384
Another day another RPCS3 regression yes, but this sounds coolhttps://github.com/RPCS3/rpcs3/pull/18113what are some games where this would work? playing shooters with kbm (or gyro) would awesome
>>558068154>can't make Gran Turismo 5/6 playable for 10 years>let's add a bunch of random shit insteadjewish emulator
>>558068154https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/List_of_console_games_that_support_motion_controls#PlayStation_3>>558068256stop noticing bruh :)
>>558068538It was progressing when that Russian guy was in charge
>>558068731That guy's corpse must rot somewhere in a Ukrainian trench.
>>558068256They're still not playable? I played both GT5 and 6 a while ago, 5 was practically perfect to me.6 was allllmost there but could crash and it doesn't sounds good at all to me which is kind of a big problem (but I dunno if that's the game itself or just poor emulation, I never had 6 on my actual ps3)Pretty bad games regardless, really.>>558068538oh thanks
>>558068731Yeah, as always, Slavs (and Japs) are the based ones. Westoids are the fags, JJs the rats.At least they improved RPCN in the meantime. Hope they fix the crashes and shieeeet soon.Z-culling fixed too: https://x.com/rpcs3/status/2023485091318735348
>>558068256It is actually not random shit. You can't even play killzone without sixaxis stuff. Adding this would be great, if it worked.
>>558063475>I guarantee you a 360 game is easier to port on average,Every single 7th gen port to modern stuff was the ps3 version. There Is something about xbox 360 stuff that just doesn't' work for modern unreal.
>>558072418Oh right KZ2 had those shitty forced minigames, people couldn't get past them?
>>558072887You have to turn a valve at the beginning using sixaxis. You can't skip it.There Is also sly cooper forced minigames.
This may be a stupid question, but is there some kind of scrobbler for playtime from emudeck?I want to keep track of my playtimes from there, so I can then keep playnite up to date.
>>558068256>>let'sIt was done by a random guy who has never contributed before.
Did RPCS3 break MGS4 againthe title screen FMV's are almost unplayable, have to skip them. the actual ingame cutscenes are fine however
Do shaders for VGA/2000's PC monitors exist?
>>558083080https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Shaders,_presets_and_filters#Shaders_on_real_CRTs
>>558083456No I mean, shaders to get the looks of those emonitors in modern screens
What shaders are you guys using for gba?
>>558088489crt-royale
crt-quarter-pounder-with-cheese
I've done the research, there are only 2 shaders worth using on SDR, I don't use HDRfor crt emulation: CRT-Royale-Kurozumifor old lcd emulation: pixel_transparency-lcd3xthat's really it, now if someone could translate those from slangp to hlsl so we use it on shaderbeam instead of retroarch, that'd be good
>>558089797>for crt emulation: CRT-Royale-Kurozumiyou're retarded bruhroyale looks like shitPVMs look shit
>>558089797>shaderbeamanother shit project that adds multiple frames of latency to everything3rd party shaders for interactive media aren't worth it unless the program supports them as part of its internal rendering process
>>558089869then no sdr shaders look good, because that's the bes tone
>>558090239>then no sdr shaders look goodwrong>because that's the bes tone wrong
>>558090379then whats teh best
if your monitor has enough brightness for hdr why even use a shader? it looks worsehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQqk2RguAQg
>>558090532>enough brightness for hdrbrightness has nothing really to do with it, you need local dimmingyou can shove a 1000nit backlight into a normal crt and all you get are bright brights and bright darks
>>558090437the shader you used as a kid
You can't tariff an emulator.
Does anyone know how to go about setting up mouse look for AC Nexus on PCSX2? I tried the most recent guides I could find on settings up keyboard and mouse controlbut they didn't work.
>>558089797>slangp to hlslanon, slangp are basically metadata while hlsl is an implementation, do you mean slang to hlsl? do it yourself, 99% of converting between glsl/slang/hlsl is just swapping between naming conventions
Fun fact: You can insert any song into Journey, so long as it's named "sepways" and is a wav file. (It also has to be zipped under the name "journey".)https://files.catbox.moe/lwmlnq.mp4
>>558105080I have no idea what you're talking about but lots of old games used absolutely no obfuscation or advanced asset packaging and just had stray assets in the game directory that you could modify or replace.
>>558105525Huh, I assumed MAME (and its derivatives) tend to hardcode the game itself, with only the samples remaining modifiable.
>>558105525>>558105735The reason you can do this with Journey is because it uses a cassette player for music playback, and MAME emulates that by just playing a wav file.Most old games don't have a file system at all. Old games did more often than not have some sort of compression for at least some of the assets. And even if they aren't compressed and you can find them in the rom, replacing a file is often often more complicated than just replacing it, because the binary is already linked.
>>558109468>Old games did more often than not have some sort of compression for at least some of the assetsunless you're talking about random compression schemes devs pulled out of their ass in the 8/16 bit console era, most compression was just zlib and standard video/audio codecsonce you get to cd media and pc games shit was literally just thrown in random folders, either raw or basically just zipped
>>558109468Clearly we're talking about games in a file system context since the premise was that there's a file to replace.
>>558112156the Journey arcade game came out in 1983
I'm building a home server and was wondering if anyone here runs most/all of their emulators on a server and then streams over network? I've used Steam link and am quite happy with the experience but wanted to know if there is a better method?Additionally, is there anything similar to hShop for a modded PS4? Was planning on playing through the entire FF series of games that I don't have on steam and yeah I can just download all the games manually and then transfer over USB but was wondering if there is a better solution?
>>558112368File systems have existed since the 60s.
Does anyone use a Dualsense as their main controller? I've ran into an issue where emulators are essentially stealing it from my PC. I like to use OBS and antimicro to map the mic button to take screenshots. But what's happening now is as soon as an emulator turns on, that's the only thing it can communicate with. It still shows up in the controller list but none of the buttons do anything on anything except the emulator.
>>558089869>PVMs look shitYeah. High-TVL on PVMs just makes everything too sharp and separated, turns 240p into obvious barcodes with black voids everywhere. Real '90s kids played on low-TVL consumer shadow/slot mask slop (~350-450 TVL) where pixels blend properly into that soft, glowy mess devs actually targeted. PVM sharpness is pure broadcast autism for richfags, not the living-room soul most people actually experienced.>>558090437https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Shaders,_presets_and_filters#Quick_Reference
>>558120682You're missing the point. It's not relevant on what actual hardware those games were mainly played on. It's not relevant on what hardware those games were developed on. What matters is that games on PVMs look like shit artistically and aesthetically.
>>558114232>antimicro>what is this? google it>website literally tries to make you open windows cmdMy sides. I would quit using whatever that is and use DS4W instead you can use that to map any buttons you want and also turn the controller into xinput.
>>558097427I don't think it's supported on any of the mousehooks available. you'd have to add support manually
>>558127585>games on BVMs and PVMs look like shit artistically and aesthetically.Yeah bro? I’m already with you 100% on that one. <-> >"High-TVL on PVMs just makes everything too sharp and separated, turns 240p into obvious barcodes with black voids everywhere">It's not relevant on what hardware those games were developed on.Back in the 80s/90s/early 00s, the average dev was staring at a consumer-grade TV or cheap CRT monitor every single day while tweaking sprites, palettes, effects and shiet. bloom-smooth dither, bleed to hide aliasing, gamma crush... because that's what 99% of players would see.Mobile devs today still test on actual phones instead of just their 4K dev monitors for the exact same reason: you design for the target display, not some fantasy reference setup.>It's not relevant on what actual hardware those games were mainly played on.Nah, nostalgia isn't some optional bonus bro, it's literally the core reason most people bother with emulation + shaders or hunt down CRTs in the first place. Preservation is cool, but 95% of the scene is chasing that fuzzy, warm back at mom's house in '98 feeling. If you strip away the consumer-CRT softness and slap on clinical PVM sharpness, you get something technically impressive but emotionally dead for those people.
>>558129973You operate on the presumption that 1. You know exactly what hardware game devs were developing and testing on2. That the devs know best what their game should look likeI don't subscribe to either of them. Devs just work on whatever hardware is available to them and if I happen to possess something that exceeds its capabilities (say, a display with larger color volume or CPU that can runahead to the point of less input lag than the original hardware), then I see no point of limiting myself to those confines.As far as shaders are concerned, just choose what looks best to your eyes and don't get hung up on what others have already experienced
most of the devs were looking at a crt monitor writing code
>>558131927>presumption 1 : that the devs know best what their game should look likeYo, but they literally built the game around how it looked on the shit they actually owned and tested on. You can argue they don't always pick the objectively best settings/combo, sure. But that's a completely different conversation.>presumption 2: you know exactly what hardware game devs were developing and testing onYeah… and they showed that hardware constantly during dev? I'm in mobile gamedev myself, we test on whatever trash phone is sitting on the desk, not on some reference 4K OLED. Same logic applied back then.>Devs just work on whatever hardware is available to themExactly my point. Most of the time it was some random consumer CRT hooked up to a devkit in the corner of the office. They weren't color-grading on a 15k$$$$$$ Flanders broadcast monitor lmao.>I see no point of limiting myself to those confines.Go for it bud, sky is the limit. But don't pretend you're playing the original game at that point (or "as intended") when you're running it at 4× native res with ray-traced ballsack reflections. :D>As far as shaders are concerned, just choose what looks best to your eyesYeah, that's pretty much it. At the end of the day shaders (and all post-processing) come down to your personal taste. If something doesn't look right to you, you just turn it off or swap it out, no one's holding a gun to your head to keep it on.
>>558133168>Yo, but they literally built the game around how it looked on the shit they actually owned and tested on. You can argue they don't always pick the objectively best settings/combo, sure. But that's a completely different conversation.Sure thing. Now tell me, do you think the top image or the bottom image looks better?
>I pointed the camera directly at the sun and there was bloom!!!
>>558133354top looks better>>558133168> But don't pretend you're playing the original gamewhy would I>or "as intended"I don't pretend to know developers intentions, I'm not even sure they had concrete intentions to begin with, refer to >>557970468
>>558133591>top looks better>>558133506>wojakYeah feels like the argument is over.
>>558133354
>>558133354that's 8th/9th gen, bro. couldn't care less about post-HD era and shieet.
>>558133917>that's 8th/9th gen, bro.But the image is still 100% true and happened in the past. There are people who play GBA games with a greying shader just to emulate the GBA not being backlit, pic related.
>>558133591I'm not autistic about devs' TV white points bro. "Similar enough" output is fine by me. Some folks are just terminally obsessed with every little detail lol. That wasn't what I was getting at. But anyway, I think we're talking slightly different things here. I see where you're coming from though.
>>558134197>There are people who play GBA games with a greying shader just to emulate the GBA not being backlit, pic related.Eww brother, whats that?I'm the Duimon preset guy for handhelds
aaaaaaaaaaaa just beam the video directly into my brain and release the endorphins so I think it looks good
>>558134691sure thing, sir. would you like the complimentary "hand relief" while the dopamine drip installs?
>>558134691
In the 00s people were actively praising the sharp pixel look.
>that anon who keeps deleting and reposting multi-paragraph postings because of a typo
>>558135615The plastic hoarders are still doing it. They are simply retarded.
>PGO: These are built with Clang, and use PGO. PGO (profile-guided optimization) uses data from prior compilationsto determine the "hotspots" found within the codebase. Using these hotspots,it can allocate more resources towards these heavily-used areas, and thus generally see improved performance to the tune of ~10-50%,depending on the specific game, hardware, and platform. Do note that additional instabilities may occur.I dont believe any of this
>>558139069>I dont believe any of thisbased
>Nov 12, 2024>force-pushed the soft-float-int branch last monthhttps://github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/pull/12001
>>558140447
Apparently Xenia Edge now runs NG2 without issue? I have to try it..but it sucks that Xenia manager doesn't support the Edge fork, unless I'm missing something
>>558142020>Xenia manager doesn't support the Edge forkEdge has its own built-in Qt6 frontend + some nice quality-of-life improvements. Just use Edge from now on.>>558141126>>558140447That, plus having to deal with per-game GS upscaling and deinterlacing hacks in gameindex is probably another huge pain for the devs.I think they should just switch to ParaLLEl-GS with SSAA instead of sticking to their custom GS emulation: https://github.com/Arntzen-Software/parallel-gs?tab=readme-ov-file#features
>>558142861Floating point emulation has nothing to do with the GS component. Even with ParaLLEI-GS, these rounding problem will stay. Also, P-GS is far more demanding on the hardware and the image is more blurrier than with GS.
>>558143443>Floating point emulation has nothing to do with the GS component.Of course, what I meant was they could focus more on other stuff like FPU/EE/DMA issues instead of GS upscaling hacks if they switched to ParaLLEl-GS + SSAA. But yeah, you're right about the performance hit.
>>558083080VGA monitors weren't nearly as distinct as 15khz TVs. If you throw double-scan (two scanlines per row of pixels) at 240p, normal scanlines at >=480p, and some phosphor decay (light trails when things move in dark backgrounds) you're about 95% there.
>>558133020World of difference between 31khz high res monitors with far fewer artifacts, meant for actual work, and a blurry-ass 15khz TV. Realistically they had each nearby.
>>558144183Except most of PCSX2, especially Refraction, know only of GS, it's years they are on it and they dev what they know. P-GS is a black box for them and any bug with it will have to wait when TheMaiester decide to work on it again.Also, they are retarded so they think it's some sort of RA exclusive thing, where RA were simply less hesitant to put it in.
>>558145331>they are retardedOh, that explains their stance against the project. Thanks
just found out my eldest brother (big age gap) did have game consoles, but my father crushed a few of them in one of his outbursts so the SNES doesnt work at all and i think the master system doesnt either
>>558051724More and more X360 recomps are popping up. What a beautiful sight.https://xcancel.com/Hinzoto1/status/2025228597535879406https://github.com/rexglue/reblue
>>558146381>xcanceltranny
my GPU can't handle xenia at 4K, and at 1440p image is jaggy on my 1440p screenwhat is the absolute best post-processing AA I can apply with Reshade?
>>558142861>Edge has its own built-in Qt6 frontend + some nice quality-of-life improvements.I see ty, interesting, gonna try it right away!>>558146381>NG2 Recomp runningholy shit, that's amazing. I thought it was gonna be one of these meme recomp projects that don't actually get any work done.
>>558146719Xenia should have fxaa built in, if you don't want that then SMAA on reshade will work. It's been a while since I last checked all the snowflakes AA shaders for reshade but iirc nothing was magically working all that much better than SMAA+FXAA with 0 subpixel option.
>>558147910Xenia has some mix of fxaa, fsr and RCAS, like the rest it's all hidden in the .toml. But with manager or edge you should be able access it.
>>558146381>>558147910Still waiting for the early EA Sports HD Xbox 360 exclusives, Fable 3, XBLIG, Doritos Crash Course and Full House Poker to actually run properly on Xenia… :/
>>558148929>early EA Sports HD Xbox 360 exclusivesMadden NFL 06NBA Live 06Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06FIFA 06: Road to FIFA World CupNHL 07FIFA 07NBA Live 072006 FIFA World CupUEFA Champions League 06-07NCAA Football 07NCAA March Madness 07Pro Evolution Soccer 6 / Winning Eleven 2007: College Hoops 2K6NHL 2K6https://archive.is/1WLBH#p550987982
>>558144183>>558140447
I'm a retard, does Dolphin have any setting that allows you to prevent the framerate from suffering during slowdown without just increasing the CPU speed (which would make the game run faster overall)? Like if I'm playing a game at 30fps and it starts to dip, I want it to hold 30fps but not go beyond that.
>>558145331Refraction in the only one left that know shit. The others are just posers that only update useless deps and translations to boost their stats
>>558160938>which would make the game run faster overalldoes it now? did you actually try?
>>558162048Huh, weird, AR codes that increase the framerate make everything run faster yet overriding the cpu clock doesn't seem to do anything at all. Still the same slowdown, yet it doesn't run faster.
DuckStation now supports CloneCD images, but does it also handle LibCrypt protection via .sub files?https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Ripping_games#Comparisonhttps://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/commit/dcb3e3624e32c9c73f249ee370679b85a9ef277e
>>558161132>>558145331>>558145997I thought the PS2 emulation scene was popular, unlike Xbox's. What happened? Why isn't there greater interest in improving it further? PS2 isn't a target like the Nintendo Switch or 3DS either.
>>558146381
so many recomps coming out it's hard to keep track, I'll have to make a .xlsx with all of them so I don't miss anythingI think we're getting like 1 per month at this rate
>>558171656https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Game_engine_recreations_and_source_ports
>>558172032thanks
>>558083080Yes. Lottes can be setup to to look like a VGA monitor.Or a BVM.Or an arcade monitor etc.
>>558120682Even sony consumer TVs look shitty.I have one for emulation via component transcoder, but i use the GTU shader to lower the vertical signal bandwidth, because otherwise the image is far too fucking sharp and it looks awful.
>>558174027Digital 576i or 1080i ones?I actually think they look better than even high-end VGA CRTs in many cases, though I still love Sony’s CPD series, those look absolutely magnificent.
>>558174509Good shit for sixth gen, wii and early x360
>>558173839eg final fight snes if it were running on a VGA monitor (1/2)
>>558146719FXAA preset 39
>>558173839same game running on a Sony BVMEME monitor (2/2)
>>558174828Lotte's mask, right? (PCSX2's got that same shitty "mask" replication too.)That Lotte's mask simulation has always been awful and still is. I genuinely don’t get why people keep using it. It doesn’t look remotely like a real mask, not even in a cool stylized way if you ignore realism. Why?
>>558174828>>558175012blurry or too pronounced scanlines, pick your poisonif only someone would make a shader like the second but dialing down the scanlines thickness
>>558175398The scanline thickness isn’t even that bad desu.That’s basically what a 15 kHz arcade cab looks like, right? Plus the dude’s probably going for a high-TVL CRT sim, so it’s pretty normal.https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Shaders,_presets_and_filters#Display_Hardware_Requirements
>>558175760it doesnt look good bro, it just doesn't, just a tiny little slimmer wouldn't hurt anyone
>>558175760>>558175161(cont.) Grabbed this from my SyncMaster 1100MB (224p@165Hz), those scanlines are normal for 15 kHz mask sims.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZjqCDXqkPHw
