The Nightmare is ongoing... >>557980052>Nine (NEW) Character PVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btU93p-ft0Mhttps://youtu.be/7-QM7H_EkXc>Balance Adjustments for Season 2https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11909138https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12011077>Roadmap Streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4>Dev notes 02/04https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12012929>Useful Links and Resourceshttps://rentry.org/xtb66f3ihttps://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant>Current Featured Banner[ Nine ] Order - VanguardRate Up Period: 02/04/2026 - 02/25/2026>Upcoming Featured BannersTiphera | Starts Feb25>Current/Upcoming EventsSpiral Tower of Screams (Beta)New Season - Seed of Karmic Fire | 02/04/2026 - 04/08/2026>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?Check the Rentry (Rentry is gone, create a new one)https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculatorhttps://czn-save-cal.web.app/
>>558125421How do I build Chizuru?
>>558125421
>>558125421My partner saw this and now they’re asking for a divorce…
>>558125421Is Nine not embarrassed of flashing her tits to Protos like that
>>558125806She loves how hard my brown dick gets for her.
Imagine typing this, there must be so much wrong with your brain
You're a newfaggot, we got it.
Hello, /czn/. Plebeian gacha tourist here.I'm 50 rolls away from a confirm and wondering if I should go all in on Nine. There's lots of time limited currency rewards and I think I can get most of it in the next 3 days if I grind the game. But will be down to 0 rolls after that. From the Event splash art Nine and the girl on the left in what looks like navy admiral's clothing caught my eye the most.This is my roster. I lost my 50/50 to Chizuru... Had no idea you can get past "limited?" banner characters from a failed 50/50
>>558125970>Had no idea you can get past "limited?Only actual limited is Sereniel and her partner> Nine and the girl on the left in what looks like navy admiral's clothing caught my eye the mosJust get her. You'll just be getting Nine and a Nine support (Tiphera)
>>558125970Only Sereniel is truly limited, so far. I honestly don't think you need another DPS. Wait for Tiph's epiphanies reveal to truly decide.
>>558125970Our third seasonal character will be the cat girl, not the admiral one (she'll probably be a partner)Nine's really good right now, if she's the only one you like design wise then might as well get her
>>558126216>another DPSshe has Narja, Mika, Rei probably Nia too, she is good in supports
>>558126316>SheWhat the fuck? Anyway, he also has Chizuru, Sereniel, Yuki, Haru, Rin, Mei Lin, Renoa and Karyon. 8 damage dealers vs 4 supports. Gacha players know supports, specially 5*, are usually the most valuable units.
>>558126094I was talking about this one (if she ever become playable that is)Tiphera looks good too, but ultimately, if I get Nine I'll be down to Zer0 rolls, so I probably won't get Tiphera even if I try.
>>558125970If you like her, just get her. She's also going to be OP for at least the next 6 weeks and carry you easily.
>>558125970Just get herShe is not limited though and we are getting the selector later this season so you can get whoever you want with that later too
>>558125519what kind of chizuru do u want
>>558125421seeeeEEEEEX
>>558126776The one with her as a DPS. I already made one with only her upgrade.
>>558126673>we are getting the selector later this season Source?
>>558126842basic attack deck or bind deck
>>558126971Can I see both?
>>558126664That looks like Tiph from the future.
>>558127019
>>558125806It’s called seduction, manslut
>>558127220What's a good replacement for Sphere?
>>558127314amorphous cube for more dmg or combat drum
>>558127258So cool...
>>558127378 (me)not combat drum, i thought it works when all cards are created, not just skillsquantum collector should be reliable, maybe rage potion too or water drops of the goddess
>>558126664>fat titsThere's a chance, but I think she'll be a partner. The line up for this season is probably Nine, Tiph and Gato.
>>558127314this gear is ass, you should farm mist world for the 40% globe purple and 40% basic attack trinket on the basic buildfor the other build get flower of life + shackles from swamp or singing sword + punisher eye from the blue world
>>558126664most likely a partner for tiph
>>558127468>>558127378>>558127538Alright thanks for the suggestions.
>>558127538the assumption is you would farm the event world, if you do runs on other planets then the lepidola's whip or foggy crystal ball or shell bug horn are better
>>558127451>using her lewd body to cheer up shotasSlut
What the fuck does that mean?
>>55812786450 x 4 card becomes (150 x 4) * 1in other world a single hit of 600
>>558127909?? That's a free dupe not a selector, wtf are you talking aboutYou're not getting any new combatant with that
>>558128027true yeah i'm stupid
>>558126226>>558127489>>558127552They made a partner the biggest figure in the artwork? Huh...
>>558128326She is the person that makes Trips mechanical hand after she gets hers ripped off
Sex with Tiph please
ROLL NINE OR NOT????
Is this a good Soul Rip?Also should I flash some of these Adagio? 4 of these seems overkill.
>>558129020yes retard, only homosexuals a skipping her
Do Divine runs increase exploration points?
>>558129118flash it how? you can't remove it and why would you want to?if anything i'd flash the g chord because that epi sucks, though you will lose the draw because generic epis don't carry over from a flash
>>558129583dont think so
>>558129118Why would you ever flash a 0AP 1draw cardYou could have a million of them and they would be good
>>558127451She’s just like my loving shifu… how did she become a popular trope even, nine has a leotard too and her tits out
>>558130287
>>558130397there's a big problem with both of them and that is that they are not pregnant with my children
>>558130397Easy, one has a real leotard.
How much is Tiph going to get censored after the massive backlash regarding her art on Xitter and Dicksord?The vocal majority is NOT happy and underage girl is sexualized like this.
Sorry, my partner typed this while I was taking a shit.
>>558129118>Is this a good Soul Rip?there is no good soul rip. it's a must remove card.
>>558130685is it really censorship if it just comes out that way? if it only ever existed in one form, it wasn't really censored.
>>558130067They do. Just finished it.
>>558130685my partner said a girl like her shouldn't be in the game
>>558130685Post examples of discord rage
Sereniel is still very good
>>558131676What message did the artist try to convey there?
>>558131676Raping my hand to this.
>>558127220>4 card copiesH-how!?
>>5581330672 copies from the bosses, 1 from rare nodes.
>>558131009nia cannot heal at all if you remove basics, mute and soul rip, soul rip upgrade is the only good one though
Today I uninstalled this game. You should do the same if you want to improve it.
>>558133318uninstall your life mate, how about that?
Which is better for Nine?
>>5581336372ndusually you dont need AP and just cheat them out
>>558133318What was the final straw that led you to uninstall, anon?
Rolling for Tiphera in a few days, still waiting for the lewds
This seems pretty good any of these 3 want it?Orlea with draw?
>>558133728>cheatDishonest 9ine players
>>558134206Renoa
>>558134206Devs gives me no guarantee that they'll not change things in a whim to sell the new toy.
>>558134343nobody except tiphera wants this just like drum and a bunch of other useless-for-anyone-else shit
>>558134343Useless card Khalipe has no exhaust cardsNine and Orlea always retain exhaust cardsIt would be okay on Sereniel but not worth the memory
>>558133318I don't want it improved. I like it.
>>558133308cool im not using her for healing in the first place
>>558135040your playstyle not using it doesn't make the card an auto remove
>>558130685Just went on r*ddit to look at their reactions because of you and everybody there is loving her thighs
>>558134343Good only if you have draw exhaust cards from shop but the overall point cost isn't worth it.
should I really cheese with beryl
>>558134612>>558134820Huh that's boringWhat are the 5 cards nine wants to cut?3 basics and which others
Is Nine a good dogwalker??
>>558135712
>>558135859well, she's a white woman, so
Do we got the Tiphera potentials? What gearset should I grind. I imagine just the generic, 2x3 set since she's a support.
>>558135859She has little synergy with Hugo.
>>558136335The exhaust set + 2pc def or health.
>>558136335> What gearset should I grind. I imagine just the generic 2x3 set since she's a support.Wrong, the new 4pc extinction set.
>>558127984>>558127984how many effects are there even that reduce hits?(would be an interesting thing to fuck over Sereniel next season)I don't assume it works on cards that conditionally gain an extra hit like Mei Lin's Rising Dragon or Sereniels laser
will I need NINE for the great rift????
https://x.com/i/status/2024771016866603089Cute rat
>>558137342yes
>>558136920there aren't any, it's a divine chaos exclusive
>>558137551I will never like her until they get rid of the fucking hamster
>>558137342Nine Orlea and Tiphera are mandatory
fuck this kusogeshe's not that good
>>558138352Surely this is some sort of skill issue.
Why must this game keep tempting me with this when I'm trying to build my Mei Lin????
>>558138272>Orleadelusional
>>558138516pivot and make this deck instead this run
>>558137342Yeah and especially E1 since it will help her target the correct limb of the boss
>>558138352Is your Nine not built or something? What is this damage?
>get vuln VE>get mask>VE cris for 1500 now and Silver Veil cris for 2k>even have the enchantment that gives +15% crit vs enemies with vulnIt's kind of insane. You could get a solo Khalipe deck that does over 10k damage every turn on auto while also shielding.
>>5581392713 or 4 VE? Divine or generic vuln?
>>558135712the strikes. all you need is hew counterblade and fighting spirit. it's possible to get fatal strike with a 0ap epiphany and it's good to use with hew extreme because you can cycle through all 5 levels in a single turn but you have to either get 4 copies which is 180pts or 3 copies and the autoplay counterblade.
>>558138536Orlea is Nine's best support.Her memory fragment set is mandatory, she provides the most vulnerable next to Magna, she can buff, block, and heal for 0AP, and can churn out tons of spores for free. You won't get top 10% in the rift without her.
>>558139437Ideally you'd want Divine, but if you're a pleb or lazy you could go for the generic. 4 VE with the Silver Veil Aquila and a 1 cost Rally. Dunno what a better weapon than Gastro is.
>>558140063The +12% crit damage dagger
>>558138705Yea that's what I ended up doing. Now I got this meme deck for rei.
>>558139956>You won't get top 10% in the rift without her.talking out of your ass when the rift isn't even out yet, classic.
>>558140294Anon, people theorized TCM and SCS before their leaderboards as well. I'm not saying he's right or wrong, but I am say that every Rift meta so far has been called in advance.
>>558140421Yea, just like how in Season 1 none of the top decks used even one of the season characters.
>>558137551Great villain Veror.
should I always be using the stats adaptation option for chaos runs
>>558139956The set is for Tiphera and the bonus doesn't stack.
>>558140641Yes, there is no downside, if your stats are really high it'll actually just use your regular character.
>>558140502Yeah, that's true. Everyone knew it was going to be TCM.
>>558140820someone said it disable your fragment set's effect
>>558140641Good if you have mediocre memory fragments and don't have signature partners.
>>558140820>>558140908Yeah, I'm iffy on this. My stats are mostly better, except each character has like one (1) stat where the sync system upgrades Def by 10 points or Crit Chance by 2% or something, and I wonder if I'm losing my artifact bonuses for this, but I can't be, because things like my Crit Damage don't decrease when I sync, and I'm using the Crit Damage set. Right?
>>558141438Oh wait, Oni Hunt has Haste. Nevermind kek. Finally beat D4 9/9
Why no Tiph news today
>>558138272>Orleaplease no...
>>558137979*mouse
I have no clue how you niggers build save data.yesterday I tried to either build Nia or Veronica. Veronica got the first decent Epi so I went for her. Equipment wasn't too bad and then she didn't got a single copy, not one. A whole run takes an hour or something. Sure I could have quit earlier, but this is still half an hour wasted, I rather took the points to upgrade the zero system.The season chaos copies seems to magically attract fighting spirit. That's the only card I got 3-4 copies multiple times this season.
>>558142359>Tiphera stream on the 24th>Checks calendarHmm, good question my nigga.
>>558140712>The set is for TipheraOh right I forgot fragment sets are made for specific combatants and can't be equipped or used with other ones...
>>558142770It's like, literally impossible to not get the copy you want on Veronica. Unless you don't have your codex upgrades unlocked...?
>>558142770Reset your codex points and get the upgrade that lets you select which character to copy.
>>558142770>
>>558143164this reminds me, those mystery boxes we got, they give points for Codex, don't they?I never used them because I wasn't sure what to spend them on.
>>558143410It gives chaos orbs which are only used for rerolling codex
>>558143410No, they either give Crystal of Discords (Blackhorn Trade shop currency) or chaos orbs (merge rerolls).
>>558142770You have to unlock all the good Zero System upgrades, then reset your system, and then buy the good upgrades first. Stuff like being able to choose which character gets the copy event really helps in making decks that have 3-4 copies of good cards. Meditate to reroll the epiphany also really helps, though in my case I have quite literally never been able to successfully meditate into the epiphany I want.
>>558142770>Veronica had 5 cards>ballista is unique>bombard prep is unique>on top of that repose/kowalski are skills so some divine epiphanies are impossible to roll on them, making it more likely to roll draw 1/1 APVeronica is literally the easiest character to build a deck for bro
its that day of the week where I force myself to do 2 chaos runs
>>558144967Hey, at least it's not 4 anymore. Holy shit, fuck doing 4 runs per week every week.
>>558144967>>558145041
there's a limit to save data???? aaaa
>finally got the beryl deck>spore harvester just refuses to spawnfuck this game
>>558144967Did Rei make this face before her first rape, or during a subsequent rape when she knew exactly what was about to happen?
>>558145961Since we're talking about her getting space pirated, was that was doujin of her and Yuki getting raped ever scanned?
>>558138747nta but show me your nine memory frags pls
>>558145961Rei has never even held a boy’s hand she's pure as hell
>>558137551HAHAHAHAHAHANobody knows our game exists
>>558145724Beryl doesn't need a divine epi so building her deck is piss easy now.
>>558146824poor guy used to draw epic7 and now he is drawing another smilegate game....
>>558130685>>558131113What are you lot talking about? She's fully clothed. What is there to censor? Her face? They gonna give her a burka?
>>558146824>Nobody knows our game existsgood
>>558145324Did you guys delete all your Season 1 save data?It's like deleting memories...
2CATS
>>558145189>qol reduced epi/copy frustration>introduced divine epi frustration instead
>>558148102JESAS
>>558145724You start the run with spore harvester. With the codex upgrade that gives you a third option at the start just escape until it gives you legendary neutral selection at some cost.
Damn Nine is comfy as fuck, she has a boss-buster deck and a cleave deck that BTFOs Yuki and she requires zero divine epis to boost so you can slot an extra divine seasonal card ez.
Best Beryl partner right now?
>>558148886Bodyguard bitch that draws upgrades and increases extra attacks. Idk the unit name off the top of my head.
>>558149000RosariaOkay thanks
>>558149000You don't need the EP skill from Rosaria, you should be running Beryl with a draw engine anyway since nothing buffs her damage other than Morale really.With Rei and a few snack times you'll be able to play 4 of the upgrade card on turn one easily since all 3 characters should have trimmed decks, and anything left over will be exhausted from snack time..The other partner (Beryl story partner) is slightly better since her EP skill is on demand Morale for low cost, and they do the exact same buffs. Once you have 10 spores running you won't draw into anything so having morale EP skills is just better.If you have both at max dupe use her, else use whoever you have the most dupes on.
>>558131676I didn’t ass
What's a good 3 card deck for Rei?
>>558150390One with 3 [Exhaust] cards so that she can use that 15% artifact set
>>558149000stebuririamuonegaishimasu
>>558150959Used goods
>>558149874Still your best option in chaos when building the deck. If you already have the 4x opening spore harvester beryl anything you'd bring it to will die before you have to think hard, but this is good stuff to consider for minmaxing hypothetical harder content that isn't out yet.
>>558144967why does this face get me rock hard?>>558146628>Since we're talking about her getting space pirated, was that was doujin of her and Yuki getting raped ever scanned?https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/detail.php?product_id=3410403&adult_view=1&nrdp=1doesn't look like it, haven't seen it appear on the panda
Harugods is this a decent deck for her?
>>558144967I use the free 10 refreshes and fish for god fun runs.
>>558150580so three snack times?
>>558148102Explode!
>>558148886I just checked and these were the numbers I gotDaisy 695, Rosaria 713, Solia 6614 stars are both max ego though so YMMV.It's pretty negligible though so really it just matters which ego skill you prefer. +1 morale means a lot on a 40 hit attack but draw 1 can be clutch too if you didn't draw an opening found.
It's time.
>>558152534
>>558152534Nine can solo the whole 15th chaos no epis with ts
>>558149874Did you even read their mechanics?Daisy's EP is a 1 time use 1 morale skill, however, the hag passive is significantly better, 50% over 40% odds, she can buff on both your snack times and your opening founds AND there is no cap to her Morale, meaning you're getting more Morale stacks every single turn. Daisy is actually kinda useless on anyone.
Now that season 2 is well under way how do you feel about the state of the game as a whole? Is it going in the right direction? Do you think it has potential to last a while and improve? What are you looking forward to the most?
>>558153613their passives are both equally useless because you're filling your hand with spores
>>558153972Optimistic as of right now. But I need confirmation on Tiph's lobby before deciding. Regardless, I believe the state of the story rewrite will either be the final bullet to put us down or a starting shot to signal good things to come.
BATTOU
>>558153972God chaos runs are a blast.They completely change how you choose epis and shop cards.Hope they expand the system and include higher difficulties for it.
>>558153972we need the "true roguelite mode" or whatever like >>558154489 says
>>558154048That's not what happens every single turn. When you use your snack time, you'll have 40% chance of 1 Morale with Daise and 50% Morale with Rosaria. Assuming that triggered, that's it for Daisy, meanwhile Rosaria will still have 50% of triggering on every single one of your 4 uses of Opening found. That leads to a more explosive turn 1 compared to a single Morale so unless you're incredibly unlucky, Daisy will always underperform compared to Rosaria.
>>558153972I'm looking forward to the main story rewrite. The current event story is good too except for the egregious pandering. Wanking the Protos' capabilities will suffice, I don't need every female character to fall head over heels on their first meeting, it removes depth from their character.
>>558153972They need to extend great rifts durations. There's literally nothing to do for two consecutive banners. It's going to be really, really hard to find a reason to even launch the game at all when sts2 comes out.
>>558155017If you think the game is going to turn homosexual with the rewrite you don't understand gacha.
>>558151405*draw on pointer and not apBack to the mines you go. It could be better but it seems perfectly usable.
>>558154707>That's not what happens every single turnyes it is. you should have your 4 upgrades played and 10 spores in hand by the end of turn 2
>>558155152>If you think the game is going to turn homosexualNo one said anything like that you subhuman, read my post.
>>558152534How do you grt that?
>>558155093>Hoo boy I sure do love hitting the target dummy using the same build as everyone elseGreat Rift is the worst content in the game and should be deleted.
I'm gonna be honest. Sereniel getting completely shafted like this only 2 banners after her release has completely killed my interest in the game. I've been doing my best to stick with the game but I just don't want to engage with this endless loop of powercreep and nerfs, direct or indirect, to promote the latest characters each season. This shit's just not for me.
>>558155017Yeah i am looking forward to the rewrite too but i want to impregnate all females
>>558148886you'd think Orlea, but nobody seems to use her for Beryl
>>558155640>I'm just so damn mad that they don't keep a stale meta
>>558155640if you fail to clear t15s with sereniel you must have braindamage
>>558155640>completely shafted like thisfor the ultra shilled mode where even if the boss had a ravage bar she still wouldnt get a 1% score? boohoo.
I will only consider quitting when Kayron can no longer clear all content.
>>558153972More modifiers for Chaos would be niceFeels like the mod pool is really small
>>558155640Well if you want a game where you just do the same thing over and over again, you're in luck. That's basically every gacha game besides this one.
>>558155410It's a chaos god zero system run.Every time you generate a new zero system instance either by using chaos orbs or completing a zero system run there is a chance you will get an instance blessed by gods.Save data isn't saved so you can go wild with deck building.It awards triple chaos orbs and blackthorn shop currency.It's easier to do buffed mobs so it's also a good source for zero system upgrade currency.Pic related is a Sekred chaos god instance option.
>>558155252Yes and turn 1 you will have played 4 upgrades and a few draws. You will be losing damage if you took Daisy instead of Rosaria.
>>558155640>Sereniel getting completely shaftedBasically me frfr it's one thing to make the new season shilled towards new characters, it's another to just shaft older characters on purposeThey flew to close to the sun and made me drop it, now all thats left is to see the safecore tiph l2d to make sure I made the right decision to bounce
>>558157968yeah, sure chudyou also forgot to mention the word "uninstalling" in your post btw.
>>558155432What an insane take. It's the whole point of the game. Without it this is just a really mediocre deckbuilder. It's the only thing with any kind of longevity. All of the static content is so braindead easy it can be cleared in a day.
>>558155640This is only the 2nd season.Wait for next one before casting judgment.Orlea was considered the ultimate starter banner brick in season 1 yet she is the meta support in season 2.Veronica was the meta for deckbuilding due to unique cards count that can't be duplicated during the duplicate event in season 1 and now she is mediocre at best.I predict Sereniel will become meta again in future seasons.
>>558158408I can't believe an NPC like this really exists
This game died far quicker than expected.
>>558158237>"uninstalling"Why would I uninstall, the moment tiph shows a hot l2d then I will be back in simple as
>>558159154You should be uninstalling once a day
>>558155640That's why you just roll for who you like and ignore everything else.
>>558158685I don't know man maybe you just started playing recently and everything is still new and fresh and exciting. Those of us who started playing at launch are bored.
I reinstalled only to uninstalled since Tiphera is a clear minor being sexually exploited.
xer partner hours
>>558158408Bro I don't think the mode that wants you to just roll every single character since we'll install mechanics to make sure no one else but the new shiny girl can compete is a good one
itching for my daily uninstall fix real bad right now...
How are the corrupted alts supposed to be thematically? Does orlea become a cultist? Does Hugo just become angry? Or do they just sorta look a little crazy and that is the premise?
>>558155962t. SG paid hopejeetyou lost, Sereniel sucks, no break bars, mob hp inflation so she can't carry without perfect dupe/epis and punishing spam gimmicks on bosses She is trash
why do niggas look at a grown woman and say she is hebe?
>>558160251zoomers are retarded
>>558158237>unironic use of the word "chud"Yikes
>>558160251Gayshit Infact
>hebehebephilia is a homosexual attraction to teenage boysattraction to teenage girls is called being normal
>>558160225Loser
>>558160481A truth so real and yet so controversial. They are going to hate you for this.
I am on my 6th uninstall of this game now
When you move a card, does it retain the AP changes? For example, if I made a card cost 0 using narja, will it still cost 0 after I move it from the graveyard?
>>558160085You can think that if you want to.
>>558161159what a fucking slut
>>558161342Yeah, that's why some people are using Haru again. If you get her Anchor Shot down to 0AP with Narja, then it'll stay 0 for the rest of the turn and you can keep spamming it for as many Pointers you have in your hand.
I don’t understand how anyone can defend the current state of DPS balance.Nine’s damage multipliers are completely out of line compared to almost every other DPS in the game. We’re not talking about a small edge or slightly better scaling. we’re talking about numbers that make 99% of the roster look irrelevant.What’s the point of investing in other DPS characters when one unit just straight-up outperforms them in nearly every meaningful damage scenario? Power creep is one thing — it happens in live-service games — but this feels excessive.
>>558161769content is made for her, she's an order unit with big hits in a season of stuff that is week to order unitsnext patch she'll be average
>>558161769Sereniel was made obsolete by the 2nd banner after her release. This is going to be the fate of all DPS characters. It might even be the fate of all support characters. We are 30% cheaper than Honkai Star Rail, so you have to roll every character.
>>558161769retard you are loopingyou posted that shit 10 times in different variations now
>>558161736but that only applies to Retrieval right? I thought the card "resets" when it goes back to the graveyard and when you call it again with Move it'll have the original AP cost
>>558151405you could make it spam anchor with Narja and the reduce cost card
>>558161769>>558161769You are TRANS!!!
Nine's damage floor is very high and she can reliably pump out damage every turn so she avoids bricked hand scenarios very well.
>>558133185That's 3 copies, anon.
what did you guys use to clear these 2 bosses outside of nine?
>>558162738I'm waiting for the catgirl. There are no time sensitive missions for those.
>>558162825im not in a rush either and ive cleared most of it just not the last 3 difficulty modifiers just wondering what you guys have been using.
>>558162738Beryl and Haru are both easy mode
I lost 50/50 on Nine and only have enough to grab either her or Tiphera, who is the better choice to pick up?
>>558162738Nine, Magna, Mika
I thoroughly enjoy how the copy event isn't guaranteed during a run.
>>558162738
>>558162738Kayronhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMPEBNx8ch0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wBEOZrumSM
The Zero System really needs a rework. Just let us choose which chaos/difficulty to run and then refresh it like we currently do with the event.The inclusion of divine runs (and likely more chaos maps in the future) make the current system obnoxious tbdesu
>>558166605i wasted 10 million gold on refreshes and am poor now
>>558162738Here is my meme build that managed to work.
>>558163147We don't know. Hard to imagine a better carry for this season's chaos than Nine though. Tiph looks like the government issued replacement for pre-nerf Cassius imo.
>>558162967heres the team I beat it with. Deck farming was minimal. I just got really lucky for the orlea one. Also her forge draws an exhaust card which was also lucky.
>>558153972they make run chaos less suffering but>they are trying so hard to copy nikke where the mc is superhuman (not lab made man only for compass)>super shilled content only for nine>yuki buff is dogshit and doesnt change a shit>constantly nerf things in fucking pve gachadesu i dont have any hope since i heard they wont touch chapter 6 in story revamp knowing how dogshit the story ,literally saying they give up on writing story which they never tried to write decent,and since this game will go with browndust route where you have homo unit in game where every female will suck your cock,i expect same drama from bd2 sooner.so we have super shilled content to newest rate up char that will be killed in next seasonal event with constant nerf and buff in fucking pve gacha+cheap knock off nikke story,and terrible charactereven jp gave up on the game
>>558166605>The inclusion of divine runs (and likely more chaos maps in the future) make the current system obnoxious tbdesuI really like the idea of divine runs, I just don't know what the point is. In my opinion, divine runs should give you 2-4x drops of the currency that levels up the Zero System. That's plenty of incentive for both newfags and people who just haven't maxed it out yet. The other currency is practically useless.
i feel incredibly concerned right now
>>558170278>I just don't know what the point isI thought it felt like a testrun for the roguelite/Chaos assault modeThey are behind btw>Protos Sync System>Arena>Seasonal Skill Tree
>>558162738Mei Lin.Haru.
>>558170565>They are behind btwThey already done been behind, launching a barely cooked, still raw Tower. It was so fucked up I haven't even gone back in after the first week. Either way, I think it's a good idea, it even seems fun, I just don't see a point in doing it. Especially in a gacha game, you have to put rewards behind things or no one's ever going to do it. Most people wont, anyway.
>>558170809Yeah the tower was supposed to be Jan but it's still in beta and almost MarchWouldn't surprise me if it gets abandoned for other things
>>558170565Anon, arena is the season 2 gimmick, the equipment stuff
Narja is too based, I don't even know what deck I want to build with her, she has too many possible options. >Divine Bottomless with 1ap or 1 draw>Domain of Voracity +def damage, maybe with +def dmg Bottomless>Basic attack Voluntary Control for Mei Lin or Chizu chu>Shield shackles for Amir retardation>Shackles of Hunger Voracity Predation DPS (?)
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>>558171290I only now realized I haven't used Mika once since Narja came out.She's too good.
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>>558171170huh damn
>>558172868fuck off crazy bitch i only like vanilla
i want apology pulls for the roadmap misses
it took hundreds of resets, but i can finally do dailies now.
>>558173189>not massacre and auto hew for dailies
>>558173189Is it even possible to do this if you're a retard like me who leveled up Potentials before making bare decks?
>>558173976It is now because they changed how removals work
>>558173976yes, it takes roughly 100 resets per empty deck, I had four successes after 400 visits to the herald (80% of these are leaving at herald because no double remove). i am a double retard who leveled the potentials, then fucked up three successful attempts because I forgot you need 80 points for empty deck and not 60.>>558173430auto hew is too slow, every daily dies in three fighting spirits.
>>558159915No I play for the sake of enjoyment, not seeing my screen name next to a number
Is this BiS Rei?she's not e6 yet...
>>558174420make her empty deck NOW
>>558174225actually maybe not memory fragments level 10, I've never done memory fragments so I can't say.
>>558153972Balance aside, they've improved the overall experience. There's a lot of potential with what they have, just waiting to see how far they go. They could be doing StS-like dailies/weeklies with funny modifiers or a gamemode where they can completely break the rules with no savedata.
>>558174225>100 resets per empty deckwtf
>>558173976>>558174225What’s wrong with her Potentials??
>>558175717If you level up the first potential, it gives you an extra epiphany when you start a chaos run, which obviously is bad if you're trying to make an empty deck.
>>558174372Me too which is why rift is so great. Ignore the leaderboard; it's irrelevant.
>>558175656yes it's insane. I don't recommend it, I was just in too deep to stop at some point and at the start I didn't know what I was getting into.>>558175717if you don't level the first potential node for a character they'll only start with 4 cards, which makes it dramatically easier to get 5 removes before they have six cards.
I cope with snack rei, no way I'm farming 0 decks
>>558176119Snack rei is better than a 0 deck
>>558176119Snack Rei is better since she can eat bad cards like Deluge
>>558176312Deluge is good though. 0.33 AP per turn is crazy returns.
Newfag here really enjoying this game, is this game at risk of EoS or suits forcing the devs to go full jew? The other gachage I play can survive off 1-2 mil a month no issue, so I'm just curious if these devs are also cruising or if they are at risk of monetary issues in the future.
>>558176449No you don't understand, see, Deluge is actually the worst card in the game. An initiation card that costs nothing to play at E6 and is also an upgrade that can't be drawn again and gives you free and predictable AP is bad because it means on your first hand, you're only drawing 4 other cards. It's better to remove it and keep something else like Whirlpool, that way you can have multiple turns later with only 4 cards. Dead drawing is actually better. You want a fat deck full of cards you don't want to play that only get in the way and don't do anything valuable. Also Soul Rip is Nia's best card and you should never delete it either because it heals a very very small amount occasionally.
>>558177050epic7 is still alive (same company) and this game made much more money so far so it'll probably be fine
>>558177050I haven’t seen it anymore but we stopped getting the app rankings shitposts after we started scoring high on those.The irony is that CZN was more of a success in the west though it slowly got more popular in Japan over time. It was target of a lot of doompost more of due to the dev drama in which they fired the cthulhu isekai writer that got hired into Blue Archive later
>>558177081so true.
>>558176312Deluge is free to play though. Anyways, any dead draws should be deleted from your deck in chaos, so you don't actually want the exhaust 2 cards snack time.
Jeets really have to run everything into the ground, huh?
>>558177609Which ones? The doomjeets? The hopejeets? The CEO jeets? The average street shitting jeet? There's so many to choose from.
>>558177609lol you've been a little guard dog for the deluge idiot from minute 1. pretty pathetic watching you hold each others' cocks here for ten hours a day.
>>558177050Smilegook is a billion dollar company and the game probably costs nothing to run compared to games like wuwa or endfield They can let this run for decades with what they made in the 3/4 months now
>>558177050it wont eos soon but it wont outsell e7 either since the biggest spender is no longer jp but cn with vpn
>>558177050>is this game at risk of EoS or suits forcing the devs to go full jew?No immediate EoS, probably at least 1-2 years, but we are getting extreme power creep. The Limited unit (they said there would be no Limiteds btw) released 1-2 banners ago already got power crept. It's a truly seasonal game.
>>558178256Lmao, you are so stupid And it's so obvious who you are You keep posting this braindead shit
>>558178078>30% cheaper than gayshit gay impact>they didnt even get as much as 30% of gayshit monthly income>hoyo is richer than smilegookok
>>558178256>powercreep>meanwhile Haru and Beryl are gods this season
>>558178237>it wont outsell e7 eitherBut it already has by a big margin?CN beta starts in March so what you say makes no sense
>>558178364>And it's so obvious who you areOh no! Really though, who am I?
>>558178420Anon you have understand there are some anons who went all in on Sereniel and were expecting to use her exclusively until EOS. "Only roll seasonal characters," they said.
>>558178396What are you saying or trying to imply? I don't get it.
I think 30% and hopejeet poster are the same guy because I can’t imagine there are 2 different anons each desperately pushing such retarded terms.
>>558178615you are implying czn doesnt cost them fuck when its loterally draining their bank since e7 is also starting to lose playershave you seen the downgrade in nine's animation
hopejeets need to be euthanized, they are beyond saving
>>558178806You might be onto something there
>>558178806>devs are bunch of hopejeets>the one who said 30% cheaper than genshin was their produceryeah pretty much same retard
>>558178909What are your thoughts on the 30% phrase?
>>558178852who is implying what?
>>55817904730% of retards make 95% of the shitposts.
>>558178852Do you not get paid if you use punctuation?
any tips on getting the copy events for the event chaos? or at what point do i redo a run
>>558174225nigga you what?, it takes only 1 low lvl run aka tier V to make an empy run, just dodge all fights and quit on the second half, unless you upgraded the potential
>>558178852>you are implying czn doesnt cost them fuckYes, this is correct It probably did cost 1/50th of endfield, maybe even less and running the live service will be pennies in comparison too
>>558179650It's an event before the 2nd boss. Just hit as many question marks as you can, especially in the last few nodes. It's pretty common, I think. Not guaranteed, but common enough. That's the only copy event I think.
>>558176449>>558177081>Anon's have no concept of long-term returns / delayed gratificationBrown general confirmed.
>>558172868I'll dig it out with my dick.
>>558179650I redo a run after the first boss if I haven't gotten anything copy-worthy. As for the copy even in the Interior, the best method is to just go to as many event tiles as possible. You may do that and still not get it occasionally, which sucks. Many of my decks don't want need four copies though, it can be better to use some of your budget on arena upgrades and neutrals.
>>558177050I think the development costs of using flash animation and recording every line of dialogue needed in a single day is low enough that it will survive effectively forever. What will kill it is just managing the game badly, not money.
>>558178516You are trying to win an argument for 2 or 3 threads now but there's no one else here who's bad enough to die in chaos with sereniel, it's just you >>558155640>>558122754>>558078867
>>558171290I love my narja and her decks!!!
>>558179650I redo usually after the first boss if I haven't gotten the pipi i want
>>558180041Nope! I am the guy who was going through the archives looking for all the stupid hopejeets who were saying that we'd never get a boss who doesn't have a Tenacity bar though. They hopejeeted the doomchads back then, saying they're dooming about nothing, and now they're hopejeeting the boss with no Tenacity bar, saying it's a good thing. They just jeet anything that's in the game, they don't even give a fuck what it is.
>>558179816>If I spend a card now, in three turns I get 1 (one) AP!That's trash, anon. It's a no-epiphany source of water, but worse. Your opening hand is also the last place you want a brick.
>>558177282this was the funniest meltdown I've seen in a while, and the fact that he was objectively wrong about his analysis on the card makes it even funnier
>>558180359It's realistically faster than three turns because of the 0 cost wave card
>>558180359You generally want upgrades on turn 1, the problem is Mika isn't really OTK material
>hopejeets going schizo, thinking every post they don't like was all one personYou have to admit, that's pretty funny.
>>558180789True. Still a worse source of water, though, and I would definitely cut a source of water without a draw. Especially on Mika who's going to have 3-4 AP she's generating already.>>558180815That's only true because upgrades usually provide value for the rest of the fight (deluge provides very low value so it's not really true here). And even then it would be better to get a draw card that gets you an upgrade + other stuff than to automatically get the upgrade and just give up your first turn. Mika's E1 is a straight downgrade outside of multi-wave content like Tower.
>Yvonne next week>Nangong Yu next week>SVWB new expansionIt's over for czn.
Wow, we have so many different doomposters! Alive game!
>>558181356Is it really "dooming" to revisit conversations where things that people said would never happen did actually happen?
>>558178486where is this big margin?
>>558181551If you’re referring to the retards that said they would never make enemies without breakbars (there were already some in the game) then I don’t care and don’t see why you have to bring up such retarded arguments over and over.
>>558181273>Nothing but flops next week for othergames>Meanwhile we get TiphYup yup YUP! CZN winning BIGLY as always
>>558181356You can't expect having any card game without its fair share of autsits and schizoposters, they (we) are the target audience
>>558171290I dont like Narja and I've figured out why I think that.90% of the game is spent doing chaos runs. While Narja's build diversity is very nice for making decks for doing other content, when doing chaos runs a lot of her cards can get epiphanies which completely change what they do. If you are unlucky with epiphanies you can get brick cards which I find annoying. An example is Shackles of Hunger. Three of the epiphanies no longer give voracity, and one of them only give one voracity.Meanwhile for someone like Mika the epiphanies are a like a heal plus some varied effects, the whole card mostly doesnt change.I hope Tiph's epiphanies will feel better for me in chaos runs because that is really the main part of the game.
>>558181758>and don’t see why you have to bring up such retarded argumentsHuh. So you don't see why someone might bring up past arguments when the thing they were told that they were "dooming" about actually happens a couple months later? >over and overI brought it up once. Only once. Someone else brought it up just now. This guy >>558180041
>>558182008Alright, if you say so. You won’t bring it up again since you said all that, right?
>>558181271I mean source of water with draw is one of the most busted support cards you can get so being marginally worse than that isn't so bad. Mika is just there for healing and AP gen so long as she's generating on average at least one extra AP per turn she's doing her job.
>>558181551Quote one post that said they'd never make enemies without break bars. Nobody said that. There were already enemies without break bars on launch.
>>558182154I don’t know bro. I didn’t really read through all those retarded arguments. What were they actually saying then?
>>558182138It's not marginally worse than [source of water with draw], it's significantly worse than [source of water WITHOUT draw], which itself is not good enough to keep in your deck in most situations.
>>558182130>You won’t bring it up again since you said all that, right?I only brought it up when I posted the archives. It upset at least one person that I was doing that. I didn't bring it up this time. Some hopejeeting schizo thinks every post he doesn't like is all one person, and my archives posting of past conversations apparently triggered him. That has nothing to do with me, that's on him.
>>558182303Deluge? Yeah, but deluge plus the wave card? Nah.
>>558182381If you didn't have deluge and you had the wave card, you'd get 1 AP anyways when you play your wave card. Deluge adds almost no value.
>>558182154>>558075357>>558076262>>558077560>>558078002 (said it wouldn't happen until season 3, because they need to shill Sereniel fomo)>>558078867
>>558180359You never "want" a dead draw. The problem you struggle with understanding is that you're forced to keep at least 3 unique cards. You have to choose between either Deluge or Blessing of waves. Deluge is predictable. You know exactly when it's going to be drawn, you can always play it, it costs 0AP if E6, and is an upgrade. Blessing of waves is literally none of those things. "But my opening hand only has 4 cards now!" Yes and every single hand for the rest of the fight will always have 5 and you get free AP. You can keep Blessing of waves and cope with it having retain but now it's taking up a spot in your hand if you're retaining or creating other cards, if there's a discard or shuffle mechanic then that's another hand where you're going to have to draw it, and it has no benefit aside from healing which you might not even need depending on the content.
>>558182468On the first turn with E6 mika yeah, but that's just a one turn scenario.
>>558182526#1: Reasoning based on a bug, so this was arguably justified. (1/2 point)#2: Was talking about current state, not future. He even acknowledged that it could change in the future. (0 points)#3: Does not claim anything about future boss design. (0 points)#4: Is a prediction, not a declaration that something won't happen. (0 points)#5: Same as 4. (0 points)
>/czn/ still crying that we aren't just dragging lasers until EoSY'all would be terrible game devs
>>558182154>Replying to the doomjeet>Having called him out watch now as he tries to force hopejeet into being a thing which doesn't even make sense because jeets farm izzat which is done by throwing shit around everywhere and making every space they occupy miserable
>run a chaos with discard debuff thinking no big deal>it almost cost me the run because it "miraculously " kept hitting Hew bricking my only DPS
>>558181827lol anon I was expecting something funny but not that pathetic.
>>558183808>He narrates his own experiences
>>558182867I think he fails to understand that he will eventually draw blessing of the waves at some point and get a dead draw anyway, unless he expects it have a draw 1 epiphany + divine cost reduction.Whereas if deluge bricks your initial hand and you end up losing a turn, you can at least restart early.
>>558183774>discard with NineYou deserved it.
Has anyone ever built a Nika who focuses on reloads and Ballistas over draws with her Epiphs?
>>558182889If you don't have her wave card turned into an upgrade then your deck is bricked already. So that card only helps Deluge once, and it's not getting you more AP than you would without Deluge. Most fights don't last 6 turns, which is the point where Deluge turns from "garbage" to "mediocre.">>558182867>You never "want" a dead draw.There are better and worse times to get a dead draw. If you snowball resources then a dead draw/upgrade isn't as big a deal. It's easier to do that if the upgrade is not in your opening hand.>You have to choose between either Deluge or Blessing of waves.This was something I acknowledged from the beginning. Go back and read the post, it talks about how "at least you can get rid of it since it's an upgrade." But even so, there are many circumstances where a blessing of water being retained is better than an upgrade that (1) you have to spend AP on, relative to the alternative with wave upgrade, and (2) automatically bricks up your opening hand.One thing is certain, though: Deluge isn't "so strong," it's terrible and at best something you want to get out of the way.
>>558184070>So that card only helps Deluge once, and it's not getting you more AP than you would without Deluge.They literally work in tandem bruv. Calling it a one time help makes no sense.
>>558184042you can do both if you luckGOD the 0 cost draw 2 and if you draw a skill get a ballistathe thing is that her damage is quite limited by her reload mechanic which is easy to fill even when not going full dps, you just need the upgrade and lots of draw
>>558183774Every time bro.
now this is a cute cheerleader
>>558183189I accept your concession.
>>558184283No, anon, they don't. None of the cases improve by adding Deluge.>Case 1Deluge + Tactical Analysis + Mika E6Result 1: -1 card in opening hand, 0 AP net effect on turn 1, +1 AP when you draw and play Tactical Analysis>Case 2Tactical Analysis + Mika E6Result 2: no diff opening hand, +1 AP when you draw and play Tactical Analysis>Case 3Deluge + Tactical Analysis + Mika E0-5Result 3: -1 card in opening hand, -1 AP net effect on turn 1, +1 AP when you draw and play Tactical Analysis (0 net change in AP)>Case 4Tactical Analysis + Mika E0-5Result 4: no diff opening hand, +0 AP when you draw and play Tactical Analysis (0 net change in AP)
>>558184993I'm counting the whole fight anon, and any fight that lasts more than a few turns results in much more than just 1-2 AP.
>>558169249I wish we had more info about Tiph, because she seems okay so far but it's hard to go off just the bare bones info of her kit. Like you said this season/chaos seems tailor made for Nine so I'm not sure how I'll fare without her. It also doesn't help that my only carries that focus on big number damage single hits are only Yuki and Kayron I guess, so I'm not sure how much use I'd get out of Tiph's single hit buff
>>558185349Spending a card on turn one to get +1 AP on turn 3 and 6 is garbage. Adding wave to the equation doesn't change anything because it's just +2 wave that would have gotten you an AP anyways.
