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Isometric towns edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Might and Magic, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, Solasta, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, Ultima, Underrail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

>Recommendations:
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>Thread Question
Favorite location in a CRPG?
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Camellia is ugly and uninteresting
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sorry,
real last thread: >>558045990
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>>558173440
quite the cope
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>>558173457
who she
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>>558173584
vaylin
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I don't care about Star Wars beyond Ass-oh-ka
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this "turn the camera" gimmick is kind of just annoying
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>>558173817
waow (based based based)
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So gnomes are just crackhead halflings?
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>>558174096
halflings are about dwarf size. slightly shorter
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>>558173817
we know filoni you keep shoving her into everything
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>>558173440
omg she's just like me!
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>>558173280
>Favorite location in a CRPG?
Sigil as a whole.
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>>558173280
>Favorite location in a CRPG?
Think my gut is saying The Lady Vengeance from DOS2 because it really felt like a hub and had music that felt like you were really on an adventure
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>>558173280
numenera's meat pit dimension was memorable
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>>558175053
>Shadowfell
>Feywild
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>>558175749
Those seem to be in the wrong place
They should be on a different axis altogether, on the border of the negative and positive energy planes respectively, not wedged in among the elemental planes.
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>>558175828
>Those seem to be in the wrong place
Yes by virtue of existing at all.
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So the closest thing to RPG releases within the next month are Banquet for Fools and Crimson Desert which is more of an action game, really.

I wonder how Gothic Remake will be like in june
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>>558174096
Pathfinder gnomes are literally faeries. Not being chaotic actually kills them. Hence the tiny crackhead look.
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>dc 23
Why is every spell in this game actual dogshit? When the fuck are you supposed to even use it when 99% of enemies have +30 to all rolls
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>>558177036
cry
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>>558174096
Why is a human woman fucking a halfling not seen as barely disguised pedophilia in-universe?
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>>558175053
It amuses me that great wheel cosmology is so superior that they brought it back despite abandoning alignment more generally.
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>>558177154
>stopping at human women
just imagine all those annoying fucking lolifags trying to get a gnome/halfing wife
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>>558177181
Great Wheel is best because it makes intuitive sense and allows for interesting contact between the planes
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>>558177036
So are you actually specced as a cc caster with a party./equipment that helps or did you expect all angel lspells to be effective no matter what?
I can understand complaining about the DC of most items in the game, but this?
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>>558176872
>Neutral Crackhead and Chaotic Neutral are the same thing
Based alignment
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>>558177242
I'm glad you can infer comparable situations, now answer the question.
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>>558177154
It’s like how people might view fucking midgets IRL. Freaky, but they’re ultimately consenting adults. Halflings are going to look like tiny adults, not like children.
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>>558177369
>hurr durr specced
Even with speccing you will boost it to what at best DC 30 you're still hoping that enemy rolls 1 for any sort of spell to hit.
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>>558177694
While conjuration is not as supported as enchantment , illusion and evocation, Spell focus feats+Expanded, getting the good robes and quarterstaffs , raisning spellcasting mdofiier above all else plus Ambuscading spell can get you above 40+ by the time you unlock this spell normally (or late act 4 if you have merged)/
That's not counting having shit like court poet and debuffs.
SO even if Angel is one of the worse paths for cc caster, ypu would still get it off pretty consistently.

Did you do anything of the sort, or did you slap a Helmet, one spel lfocus and called it a day?
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>>558173584
The Eternal Empress of Zakuul, Vaylin.
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>>558178391
>hurr durr when you're lvl 20 maybe you can hit a spell once in 3 tries
I'm lvl 12 early act 3 you dumb fucking retard.
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>>558178498
I'm getting dangerously close to liking evil women
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>>558178631
She's going to be in a future story segment since she's not dead yet. I look forward to the next part of her story arc.
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>>558178593
Get expanded Arsenal with Rank 4 upgrade which you can get by wasting time till mythic quest starts before doing the big dungeons and areas, Quarterstaff or the war mage from Ivory Sanctum and properly pick your feats and you can get rolling by middle of act 3, you whinging manchild.
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>>558177036
The worst part is losing the spell. You get a limited number of slots for limited casts. You can only cast one per turn. You use all those resources and... nothing.
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>>558178954
what if she dreams without your consent
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For me it's Camarah
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>>558174096
That's Derro
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>>558174096
I like how Pathfinder gnomes look. Cooler than dnd's
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>is a redhead
>is best girl
Love this trend.
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>>558179542
That’s more or less “Save or suck” spells in everything D&D derived. They tend to either end the encounter almost single-handedly or do nothing. They can make things spicy when they’re thrown at you though. Beholders as an enemy type are almost entirely built around it. No one fears beholder bites.
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>>558181420
Did playing as a man in Witcher hurt you
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>>558181420
Morales isn't even a redhead, that's a skin lol
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>>558181420
chorda eats brains
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>game makes a big deal out of Incendia Chorda joining me
>I already have a full party and loads of spare companions
>don't need her, don't use her
They need to think this kind of thing through. They should have let you run with everyone in the final chapter. Then making lots of friends and doing their personal quests would matter.
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>>558166334
>Literal magical warp power genetics work EXACTLY like having blonde or chestnut hair
An insane assumption to make
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>>558182483
I wouldn't say first charpter, but definetly before the literal last stretch of the game
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>>558182483
Owlcat always does bonus hidden companions
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>>558181420
love my redheaded pitslut
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>>558183110
Fucked up that left leg a bit.
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Why do human women look so fugly in Origins I can't even make a Cousland or Amell that's female without her looking trans
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>>558183525
Everyone in Origins is ugly. It might be the ugliest rpg ever.
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>>558183648
>It might be the ugliest rpg ever.
it's called soul and it's beautiful
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>>558183926
That stinky swamp witch? Mah waifu.
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>>558184018
disgusting...
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Why is some guy in the combat arena the hardest fight in underrail? the final boss was way easier.
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>>558184085
She's really let herself go.
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Wow shes so hot
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>>558184552
cause it's a humid swamp
just IMAGINE how sweaty those pits are
disgusting
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>>558184450
The indomitable human spirit.
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>>558184552
how many shotas do you think she's taken into the forest never to be seen again
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>>558185141
fuck off groomer
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I killed the intellect devourer then hired this little dude Tomi with my newly acquired wealth
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>>558185652
nwn is such a vibe
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>>558185652
Smart, he can suck your dick standing up.
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>Idira misses Theodora, and is struggling to control her powers
>buy her a nice Psyber-Raven to keep her company and help her focus
>Cassia likes birds but keeps killing them because she's retarded
>gift her a friendly and unkillable Cyber-Eagle
>Pasqal frequently expresses the desire to turn various members of your party and random people you meet into servo-skulls
>give him a bunch of spare Servo-Skulls from storage to play with
Toys for all my friends! Overseer is the best archetype.
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cyborgs can still die RETARD
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>>558186098
Cassia seems a little unappreciative of her robobird
>come on... do something!
I gave a bird to Jae as well because it suits her arab/persian background. When it takes damage she goes
>aww don't worry, I'll tighten your screws!
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environmental storytelling
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>>558184450
Reminder CHADnifax is a old man way past his prime. He could beat anyone in a 1v1 when he was younger.
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>>558181420
>clearly orange
>is still called a redhead
Explain yourself, English
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>>558187997
Orange is a kind of red
So is brown
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>>558188098
orange is not a kind of red
they are two words for two different colors
Suvi is an orangehead
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imagine how crazy fenhawke sex is
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>>558188280
The word you're looking for is ginger.
But even then orangehead isn't even a concept that exists. Everyone just says redhead and includes orange under that umbrella.
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>>558188694
ESL moment
ginger is a spice
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>>558187997
anglos discovered ireland before citrus, duh
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>>558185652
why are you a paladin with 12 cha
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>>558188781
Ginger is literally the English slang for redhead. It's often ironically used as a slur.
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sex with gnomes
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I just started Fallout 2. Where the hell am I supposed to get a small gun?
I found the pipe rifle in Vic's shack, but I've got a 4 in strength instead of the 5 that I need to use it properly.

I don't know how they actually managed to make this aspect of the early game build variety worse than the first game.

Also, Are there any sort of tips and tricks I should know going in for the first time? I tagged Speech, Small Guns, and Sneak.
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>>558186687
Disappointing. Cassia really is a bad person. Spoiled, spiteful, cruel.
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>>558189715
Do you care about the feelings of your toaster
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>>558189863
affirmative. I also perforn intercourse with it
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>>558189239
What's wrong with that? I'm winging it. I've never played DnD or a CRPG before.
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>>558189863
Yes. I perform the ritual maintenance and recite the litany of friendship to the toaster's spirit.
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>>558189863
Pasqal does
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>>558190327
Ehh the thing about paladins is always smiting evil. And the modifiers to that are all based of charisma.
Tldr. You smite an evil night and if you charisma is 16 you get a +3 to attack and dmg.
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>>558191879
Damn okay I didn't know that. Will be investing in charisma.
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>>558192049
It’s also easier to boost your strength and attack than your charisma (past 4-6)
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>>558191879
I don't think this applies to NWN, or at least I don't remember it
Are you speaking from experience or D&D rules?
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Rest in peace my girlfriend she got hit by a bazooka
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>>558191879
Evil fears and despises beauty, therefore being handsome and charming is the greatest weapon against them.
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I wanna smooch her.
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Marhovek you stupid bastard why are you so fucking nutty?
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>>558193845
>Evil fears and despises beauty,
how do you explain sexy evil women
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what if evil but beautiful
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>>558195082
Camellia
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why do dao companions have sex right in the middle of the camp like there aren't tents

why are they busting it open infront of sten
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>>558189541
t. Aerie
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>>558195324
But she's not evil
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Crazy how Anders would be way more popular if he was a woman
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Is Tau weaponry worth speccing for?
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>>558196619
crpgs where the shortest companion gets the worst outcome?
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I totally forgot the fade part of the mage quest. this shit is ASS
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>>558197886
I played it once with a guide and it took like 4 hours
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>>558197054
that's new
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>>558197645
Linzi gets turned into a book. That count?
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Will Divinity introduce more skill checks during sex scenes?
The Lae'zel sex scene where a successful roll determines whether you top or bottom is kino
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>>558200034
yeah there'll be an intelligence check to find the snake girl's cloaca
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>>558200034
Savescumming until I get bottom
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>>558200918
>he doesn't know
You reveal your own ignorance
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>>558197009
apply that to 99% of male characters
for example marazhai, sebastian, tristian, regongar
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>he stalks VAs
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last achievement i needed and it was bugged this whole fucking time. the counter never increased when I destroyed a torpedo unit and I am moderately peeved
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>politics out of nowhere
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>>558201675
Don't act like you don't.
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>>558202203
Not everyone is brown
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(Good) [Kiss] "I like you. Live!"
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>>558193650
>""""my"""" girlfriend
First of all she isn't "your" girl, she's the town bike
Second of all she isn't a girl at all she's a bunch of pixels on your screen
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>>558197886
I dont get people that say this
It takes like 1 hour at most even if you comb over everything and it's the only fun bit of exploration in the entire game
It's the only area that is actually somewhat complex to explore with actual backtracking and intelligent level design. They also give you a bunch of different forms with different abilties and resists that you can switch between mid-combat at a moments notice which makes the combat there really good as well.
It was unironically my favorite part and then I look online and everyone hated it. Is the average player retarded? Do you prefer walking through grey corridors where there are no choices to make about where to go and what to do while fighting the same enemies that you've fought 100 times already?
Plus it's super short if you just walk to the end instead of exploring every section and backtracking once you unlock new powers
What the fuck do you need a guide for lol? Pay any amount of attention, the "puzzles" with the different form abilities are super obvious and there isn't much you need to remember.
I'm a retard that looks up every puzzle solution instead trying to solve them and even I did this section in its entirety without any issues whatsoever.
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>>558181775
its the asuka variant too
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(Neutral) [Shrug] I'm indifferent toward you.
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(Lawful) [Attack] You were given the law. You chose against it.
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(Chaotic) [Sing] I stole a loaf of bread
My sister's child was close to death
We were starving
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(Neutral Good) A bootyhole is not a vagina, and we have to be a little bit more, sensitive and cognitive of what we actually dive into, and it's so easy to become excited into...just wanna rush in but you can't do that with every bootyhole. some bootyholes you gotta eat, some bootyholes you gotta finger, some bootyholes you gotta prepare you just cannot rush in especially if you got a big dick like you gotta be sensitive to the bottom
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>>558202230
Finally they keep Wylla black
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(Evil) "Booty, a man's butt, is more important than eating food or drinking water. When I see a man I walk up and tell him "I like you, and I want you. Now we can do this the easy way or the hard way, the choice is yours"".
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>>558177036
Here's how DC is calculated
>10 base
>+1 per spell level
>casting stat bonus
>feat/class bonuses
>gear bonuses
>spell bonuses
You have to go all in if you your spells to land.
Spell effects can instantly kill bosses. No shit they're going to be difficult to land.
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(True Neutral) I will kill anyone for money.
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>>558173280
>Favorite location in a CRPG?
I like Vault City
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>>558173280
>Favorite location in a CRPG?
Whereever Jimmy the Husband is.
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This useless fucking Eldar got one shot by the c'tan shard
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>>558206257
>le superior race
>can't even tank a c'tan shard attack
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I'm just a role player, role playing my life away...
away...
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>>558206327
I gotta say for being a c'tan shard that fight was easier then the damn vizier fight with Kibellah
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>>558206257
They aren't called "leldar" for nothing, bro
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(Neutral) So one side of the war consists of demons raping and killing toddlers and cultists that literally want to destroy the world. And the other side consists of altruists that want to stop them and as many people they can, even the demons willing to repent. But can we really say that one side is good and evil when morals are subjective? I think both are equally in the right :)
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>>558206616
Mon'keigh literally only want one thing from Eldar and it's fucking disgusting.
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>>558206848
Yes, your pooper is digusting, begone thot
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>>558206520
Humanity is supreme
and also you're drugged out of your mind
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rogue trader unarmed build
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>>558194064
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19 more days until this general is saved.
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Amusing little side quest
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I don't see why everyone is always so happy to see Haer'dalis.
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>>558210204
Aerie just wants his d
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>>558210423
It's fine, I put them together at the back of the formation so it's easier to keep an eye on them.
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*hits pipe*

As part of a contract to take out a succubus I prepared myself by going to the den of pleasures and paid for a succubus

I told her I'm not interested in her to test if the book saying they are hurt by it is telling the truth

you know what the book failed to mention commander? a 28 inch cock manifesting out of nowhere and going straight to my rectum, professional style

Anyways I failed to get a refund because I couldn't walk straight but I learned some professional knowledge that day that not only do incubuses pretend to be succubi to make money but that the first 9 inches are the hardest to take and after that it's smooth sailing
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After bouncing off DOS2 a couple of times because I couldn't appreciate the combat and some parts of the story, I was finally able to 'get' it.
It feels like melee fighters, except backstabbers are kind of weak?
>melee fighters gets teleported away and have to spend 1-2 turns going back
>melee fighters have the strength, but it doesn't mean anything until they can get the physical armor of their enemies down to 0 to cc enemies
meanwhile
>backstabbers crit and travel much further due to scoundrel
>spellcasters nope and teleport away and can attack from a distance
>rangers attack from a distance and just need height

or is my understanding wrong?
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>>558193650
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>>558211665
What you failed to grasp is that dos2 is an overrated game that greaty overstays its welcome. Other than that sounds about right
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>>558211591
I remember this dialogue
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that's gotta sting!
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My role? Heh... you wouldn't get it, kiddo.
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I need some help to get into Fallout 2.
I tagged small guns, but I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do to actually get one. I found the pipe rifle in Vic's Shack, but it needs a 5 strength and my strength is only 4.
Do I restart and tag melee or something?
What do I need to know for this game?
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>>558215009
Fallout 2 has no time limit like one so just farm world map encounters.
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>>558215129
I don't have a reliable source of damage. what am I looking for by doing that?
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>>558215009
It's an old game, so you're expected to be a bit more familiar with its rules.
Here's the part of the manual concerning strength.
It says that all weapons have a minimum strength requirement.

If I were in your shoes, I'd restart and have strength at whichever gun you're aiming for.
I think 5 is the minimum for most guns
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>>558215542
>>558215009

my mistake, you can use guns even with low strength, just increase your small guns skill to overcome the lack of 1 point strength
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>>558197645
Fixed
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>>558215542
>>558215691
So am I just stuck with the Pipe Rifle for a while? Is it just good enough for now, or do I need to beeline it somewhere else, while trying to avoid combat? Is stealth viable enough in the early game? I tagged it, and it's at 46% right now.
I knew that not meeting the strength requirements would lower weapon accuracy, but I figured it also affected damage by how little I'm actually doing. Plus, I didn't know how much. If it's only 20 points, then that's not so bad.
I was planning to main the Sniper Rifle with a silenced pistol of some sort for close range encounters, and until I can get the strength implant, or a suit of power armor.

Honestly, knowing how mild the penalty is for low strength, I would be tempted to restart the character so I can allocate those points to extra Perception or Agility. I probably won't though just because I don't want to have to grind my way through that opening dungeon all again.
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>>558216550
@grok how is this crpg related?
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>>558216587
The grooms are the average CRPG audience, the brides are the romance options they want. Easy
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>favorite romances of mine through years
>Viconia
>Morrigan
>Camellia
>Kibellah
Dunno if Mass Effect can be considered CRPG so I avoided mentioning it
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>>558211665
No melee fighters, rogues, archers, and necromancers are op. Physical damage is much better than magic damage and strength based users can get incredible damage because of crit + runes and due to getting the best unique weapon in the game, falone, and lohars source hammer in act 2
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>>558211665
>melee fighters gets teleported away and have to spend 1-2 turns going back
Name one time this happens outside of Alexander netherswapping you in act 1 (countered by fortified btw)
Just upgrade your weapon every level + use rune frames of power on masterwork runes + and take mobility spells
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>>558217019
>nice
>nice
>pure shit
>nice
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>>558217019
Same but if we are mentioning ME I romanced Jack.
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>>558217263
cope
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>>558217428
YOU DONT GET TO INCLUDE YOUR SHIT WAIFU IN THE NICE WAIFUS PACKAGE
THERES A NAME FOR THIS PSYCHOLOGICAL SHIT YOURE TRYING TO PULL BUT IM NOT REMEMBERING IT RIGHT NOW
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>>558217531
Open your heart to Camellia
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>>558217624
>"You want to kill me?"
>keeps pushing and teasing her about the idea of ending you, as foreplay
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>>558217518
Nice Emder
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Did someone make a wokeless mode for rogue trader like they did with wrath?
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Brrr, it's so cold with the window open.
Perfect for playing a role in my favorite C.R.P.G., The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim (Special Edition) (modded)
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What other roles is everyone playing?
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imagine Regil taking a BBC
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>>558219497
>HasNoHeart is pounding on the pod door, shouting that I let her out
What would you do in my shoes?
Knowing what I know, having seen what I've seen. What would you honestly expect me to do?
Oh S, why did it have to be this way, what did I do wrong?

Literally can't play the game to knowing her heart desires for H and also desires "down there"
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>>558219001
Rogue trader doesn't have anything woke in it.
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>>558219001
Meds
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did he do anything wrong
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my attempt at a solo core Fighter run.
going ok so far. i get absolutely raped by spells/touch attacks unless i abuse potions, which ok yeah thats pathfinder for you. i think once i get more levels and straight up out level the enemies i'll be fine. i'm basically invincible against general melee attacks which is fun. any group that has a caster i pretty much have to use Marching Terror to disperse everyone and get free AoO which has been very helpful (tower of estrod and silken thread atelier have 2 touch attack monsters that ALWAYS land their hits and can 2 shot me). gonna make this guy a shield basher after i can get my first dex belt
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>>558219863
based
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I say outloud: "You know what you did" and I leave her in the pod
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>>558219808
>>558219862
Least obvious owlshills
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>>558220046
what does a question about blackwall have to do with owlcat
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Jagged Alliance 3 anons where

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k--6x7yg1OQ
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>>558219630
>euro hours
>thread goes to shit
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>>558220335
Mouse and Barry canon
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when you stop a grown man from murderating another person, you will use all your force, you'll throw yourself at them with a flying tackle, if you don't know how to submit them you would elbow them in the face, maybe use a rock, maybe even shoot them if there's urgency.
if you see a toddler with a butterknife waddle towards their sibling, even if you know the intent is there, you will simply walk over and pick them up gently, disarm them and separate them. this is the problem with an optimal build in a crpg, I cannot take their debates on morality seriously when everyone turns into the toddler with the butterknife, the extremists just look stupid.
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is this a zoomer attempting to role-play someone who can actually speak?
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>>558219497
My kitsune shifter is too busy being a lawtist to realise that recruiting a succubus may not be the best idea.
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>>558220361
false flag from an american
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>>558220649
>murderating
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Kibellah haircut lol
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Camelia is marginally more interesting once her secret was revealed
I don’t like talking to her though, she’s unsettling
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>>558224089
did you suck her pussy
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>>558224172
No she can stay in her alleyway like the creep she is until I need her in combat again
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whore
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>>558224314
>Onto the altar she goes!
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>>558224314
Men, this Eldar corsair has lost his composure.
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Mon-keigh is OUR word, but you can say monkey.
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>>558219863
>fighter when mutation warrior exists
lol
>shieldbash fighter when demonslayer exists
lol
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>>558225772
Mutation Warriors are degenerate drug addicts
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>>558225772
Yeah most things are just sub-optimal compared to MW what can you do. I like armor training desu and just always being "on" without having to imbibe a potion. Plus I think the wings you get look goofy.
I found Demonslayer boring. It trivialized the game once I got access to my mount
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0 days since someone last cried about Yrliet (she's female and doesn't reward you with sex)
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>>558226158
what's the point of a woman who won't fuck me
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>>558226273
feeling valued and loved isn't enough for you?
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>>558226426
no
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>>558226273
Cook for you, wash your clothes etc.
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should I go shotguns or sniper in RT
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>>558224314
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>>558226891
Snipers are shit if you're not yrliet
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>>558226891
Shotguns
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>>558226891
Shotguns.
Arbitrator Vigiliant is built for it.
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2027... the year I get out of Act 4...
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>>558226891
Shotguns are a lot of fun. Area effect, knockback, fire in melee range.
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What's the max level for the crusade stats in Act 3?
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>>558230313
5
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What can crpgs learn from jrpgs?
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I managed to power through several quests in DAO after work. Now I'm going to start Stone Prisoner.
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>>558226547
>describing a maid
This is why I'm a female volcel
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she meant wet with blood right...
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>>558232779
Camellia the cocksucker
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How grim should DH be?
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>>558219630
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>>558219774
It's woke because it doesn't give me an option to have the former traders concubines and illegitimate children be burned alive with her body as is tradition in sone houses.
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>>558232779
>she meant wet with blood right...
Of course this is what she means. What else could it be?
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>>558231161
evolving party dynamics
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>>558231161
4 niggas in a row combat, so you dont have to waste time hunting down a hundred enemies hiding across a huge map
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I love how CRPGs are a safe space for me to explore my gender identity ^_^
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>>558184552
>chudgana
>>558184842
It's actually kind of chilly. In that world it gets colder the further south you go.
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Right so Im playing Pathfinder: kingmaker again. Haven't played it since it first came out and I forgot a lot of the little details .
First...do zi have to buy build points all the time or will my kingdom eventually generate enough on it's own?
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>>558238018
You'll probably have to spend quite a lot of gold on BP throughout the game
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>>558236183
Do you feel validated?
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>>558238780
why are you working on sunday
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>>558238780
>sneak attack
I assume it's the perk that makes your sneak attacks reduce strength not strength from negative type of damage
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>>558238885
preparing for monday but that is not really relevant
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Ignore my prior question I was just being dumb, here is a good one
Why does Playful Darkness benefit from concealment if I have true seeing communal on?
And why has he yet to miss a single attack on a displaced target if he only possesses "see invisibility"? He does not have true seeing on so I dont get how he can land 20+ attack straight counting my reloads
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>>558239194
Some guy recently posted that true seeing is actually bugged and doesn't let you "true see" only works against invisibility not displacement. Doesn't surprise me shitton of spells either are bugged or have wrong descriptions.
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>>558239310
So I'll have to contend with a permanent 50% miss chance on every ray attack against him?
Lovely
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>>558239627
that or fish for dispel magic. This is why lich is absolutely broken he gets corrupt magic which completely dispels literally everything from the enemy and also lowers their AC and saving throws by 1 for each dispelled effect on late game bosses it pretty much means -30 ac or something like that cause they also lose their buffs.
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>>558239627
You need to use something like faery fire
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Is there a bolter sniper rifle in Rogue Trader?
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>>558239896
No. Closest you'll get is the Hunting Rifle or Cruel Fate. Or maybe the Precise Bolter.
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>>558239627
I think echolocation works instead.
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Dlc items are literally p2w
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https://www.youtube.com/live/QcKqi6XbESE?si=dGG18HEjoB3CSqOh

/ourguy/ is live
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no matter what I do he always kills someone turn 1
i cannot seem to start of combat either with a surprise attack or normally without someone dying
and no matter how many summons I pile on in his path he rushes straight to me with his 6 attack after his charges ignoring everything even though I dont attack him, even when my summons deal damage to him
he has uncanny evasion so any reflex spell doesnt hit
heal cant hit because his touch ac is still 39 and daerens attack roll with it is super low for some reason. his attack bonus is 16 but when I use heal offensively his attack bonus is equal to his strength for some reason
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>>558241835
Is this still about playful darkness? You need channels and pillar of light. The targeted heals won't hit the high ac.
Mass heal would do it too but you don't have it yet. You will encounter same enemies later though.
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>>558241835
You simply might not have team comp for this fight, sadly this game is 99% knowledge of encounters and knowing what counters what enemy. If you don't have it you're just dead. From what I remember it can't hit shades/spirits dunno what your mythic allows you to summon but it should buy you some time. It can't charge you if you LOS it but channel energy to damage undead can hit through LOS so position everyone behind the wall other than summons. Even then you might just not have enough damage.
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He is immune to true seeing communal
I need faerie fire which I dont have, thought it wasnt necessary :)
Then I need to figure out how to make his AI target summons because that shit straight up doesnt work
He also broke aggro against a character with last stand tanking him so that wont work either, I could have bought some turns with that otherwise
All reflex save spells are useless
His damage kills everyone in 1 turn regardless of buffs and displacement doesnt work until echolocation is removed, I dont know if it can be
Heal seems to be useless due to how its attack roll works, or at least useless until I brute force a dispel magic and even then it wont hit
I dont have pillar of life as a learnt spell on daeren, only mass cure wounds spells which works but deasl very little damage so that wont be enough
I have selective channel on Daeren (comes with the xbox) so he cant use the 50 damage heals against him sadly
The only thing I might get me through this is switching to Seelah, use mark of justice with characters summoning spider swarms so they can avoid dr and then fishing for a dispel magic that removes his echolocation so I can maybe sorta tank him with displacement
Because there is nothing I can do when he uses his 70 movespeed to waltz to my backline and just fucking murder me ignoring everything else in front of him. He doesnt seem to be bodyblocked either
That is the number 1 issue I have, I just dont have the time to do anything because nothing I can stop him from walking up and killing me
So if I cant switch out my party here it's literally impossible there is no reason to waste any more time on this
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Nenio and Playful Darkness match made in hell
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>>558244110
>I need faerie fire which I dont have, thought it wasnt necessary :)
That is le epic owlcat troll that true seeing doesn't work even tho it should :)
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>>558244110
Just get toybox and switch your party with that
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>>558239194
>>558239310
True Seeing is not bugged, it correctly lets you ignore concealment from spells like Blur and Displacement. It doesn't work again Playful Darkness because he has Mind Blank, which negates True Seeing versus these buffs.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/m/mind-blank/
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>>558240073
Argenta doesn't miss with the sacred bolter casing anyway so I guess she's okay with the normal one.
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>>558219774
Bullshit
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>>558244110
I finally got him to attack my summons for once but he deals full damage to the swarms somehow
I also found out that echolocation can be removed so that is hopeful
Daeren consistently fails to hit his spells due to his spell resists despite me taking all 3 talents + having a +2 buff from ode to miraculous magic. Now that is just me failing the 50/50, exactly actually, but it's still a major issue
Ember too failed to get a single fucking hit on him due to concealment and mediocre luck so she might as well be a paperweight
Greater heroism doesnt matter since I cant fucking hit him anyway so I might as well reload and use all my level 6 spellslots on greater dispel magic
It seems his resists were actually from stoneskin so if I manage to strip that the swarms start doing work
His will can be debuffed low enough to land phantasmal web, somewhat reliably with a 20% chance to land roughly. If I find a turn to evil 1 phantasmal that could actually win me the fight, maybe. It would at least get me a turn to cast more dispels
His fortitude is too high to fish for phantasmal killers so I'll need a way to debuff that
My slayers crit range can hit him and he hits hard. If I strip his vision seeing abilities I could "easily" deal 200+ damage before dying with average luck. Revives are also possible
This is the best run so far, currently ongoing
This party is tailor made to suck against him
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Sex with Bulgarian Frog Women
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>>558245742
>61AC
>36 spell resistance
>fast healing 20
L-M-A-O this game is so dogshit
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>I'll watch your back.
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Oh I'll watch Camellia's back alright
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>>558245742
I finally have it, not a winning run, but the solution
Due to his innate bonuses and sky-high fortitude and will stat he literally cannot be targeted by most spells
Even with sickened and evil eye his will is 27 which is more than I can beat even with a 1 on Ember
But, there are two spells that can land
Mind fog from Nenio with a dc of 31
And what does it do? Reduce his will to 12 or 20 in reality
But this is below the dc of slumber and feebleminded
And with this I can at least somewhat realistically attempt slumber into coup the grace
So this is the play unless someone here knows a realistic way to debuff his fortitude below 32 in which case I can fish for phantasmal killer persistent or weird from a scroll
I had ember use the gloves of arcane eradication for the +4 to her ranged touch attacks
But seeing as she landed 1 singular damage spell after 8 casts I am not even going to bother trying to deal ray damage
Reload city here I come, how fucking thrilling
But then again I am attempting an optional superboss blind my party isnt made for so what do I expect
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>>558247268
just let Cam tank him
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anyone mind if I play a role?
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>>558247342
his attack bonus is 56 and my ac on cam 47 at most and he can see through displacement until his buffs are removed so i dont think that will work in any world
She doesnt even get mirror image
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Alright I kind of underestimated Trickster. I'm so used to just using it as a crit slut that I forgot that its other abilities can be fun too. Being able to infinitely use wands means you can essentially have high level spells as a cantrip. Works well with a Magic Deceiver since they have nothing to do whenever they're not casting spells.
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wonder what roasted drake tastes like
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>>558247268
I'd be surprised if it's not immune to sleep.
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Bros do I have do something to progress Ember's quest in Act 3? She talked to the crowd but that like months ago and nothing happened
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>>558247268
Ummm I guess what really works is spawning in every creeping doom swarm at once because apparently you can have as many as you want active?
This might be the attempt one way or the other
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>>558249208
All this time you didn't pre-summon 200 mobs?
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>>558249003
It happens after you clear the ivory sanctum.
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>>558249790
Ah I see, I haven't done that yet
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Sup niggas, I will be breaking the rules of this closed beta and posting screenshots of this shit in a few days
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Cam sexo
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>>558250169
>I will be breaking the rules of this closed beta
They prohibit you from posting screenshots of the beta? Sounds strange
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failed to roll at least an 8 award
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>>558250516
The camfag inclination for AI slop
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>>558250516
Pregnancy is fucking disgusting and the whole coomer breeding shit is a psyop. Children are literally parasites and then they turn into financial and legal parasites for almost 20 years.
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>>558250821
>my Wenduag has 8 attacks per round
>fails to roll at least a 4 for all of them
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meeting your wife's exs is always a weird situation huh
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>>558250787
That's an euphemism for game is dogshit please don't share so retards will buy it.
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>>558251084
if only our parents had the same mindset as you
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>>558250169
Based, I want to know if this will be good or not

>>558251084
Anons are calling to call you a woman for this
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>>558251084
>anon will never know the joy of having a child
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>>558250787
Some betas have nda, yes.
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Is a rapier an appropriate weapon for a young lady?
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>>558251538
you have to be really strong to use one, so no
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>>558251405
This is cope. I have friends with kids who give me this line but I see the deadness and envy behind their eyes. Deep within, if they could turn back time and have all the sex without now having to deal with a kid for a quarter of their entire life, they would.
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AI ""art"" is indian coded
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>>558251628
Do you worship Star Wars and 40k any chance?
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>>558250787
It has an embargo until march since they didn't finish the fucking beta in time but I don't give a fuck
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>>558251538
She can play with my rapier whenever she likes
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S tier impregnation is being the bull and putting your kid in a slutwife then peacing out. Every other situation is trash and full of cope like "the joy of having a child"
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The only spells that exist in Nenio's arsenal are Phantasmal Killer and Weird.
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>>558252253
your selective grease and haste?
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The desire demon in the mage quest does make a templar imagine he has a loving wife and many kids. I think its a normal fantasy.
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Why the fuck would you have a furry in your party?
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>>558252253
I have never and will never cast a spell with as stupid of a name as "Weird"
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>>558252253
I never like how much specialization PF expected of you. I understand that specialist are always going to be better than generalist, but the gap in WotR is huge and the amount you can specialize is ridiculous, down to an individual spell that you build everything else around. In BG, by comparison, I always felt I was always cycling through most of my magical arsenal.
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>>558252253
Bro, your Phantasmal Web? Your Phantasmal Putrefaction, bro? Bro, your Haunting Mists? Where's Haste, bro? C'mon, bro.
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need moar AC
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Don't open /bgg/, the Americans/Indians are at it again
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Having a child is the greatest joy of this life and I will make sure Yrliet gets to experience it.
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>>558252520
This is an exaggeration and doesn't exactly hold true for Core and lower. Of course the specialists will win at what they specialize in, but you can get by with a couple specializations or even being a generalist with maybe Spell Pen feat and good spellcasting stat.
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Romances for this feel?
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>>558252693
Big R...
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>>558252816
I'm not deluded, I'll just get an Eldar bull
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>>558250516
Can't get pregnant from constant high-impact anal.
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>Cuck posting out of nowhere
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How old is Camellia ?
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>>558253009
60
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>>558253009
Why is this important to you? Ask important questions like whether she shaves her bush or armpits, what her farts smell like, what colour her nips are, if she likes anal, if she swallows or spits, if she likes to top or bottom etc etc

Ask normal questions
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>>558252529
Purification is useful, but haste on Nenio is retarded. Nenio shouldn't be a buffer. She should be specced for offense. You shouldn't be wasting mythic feats in enduring spells for her.
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>>558252990
Every single minute of every single day, hundreds of millions of women are servicing their bull and choosing to deny you.
It's the ultimate cuckolding, and here's the real kicker: You know how men instantly become attractive with a ring on their finger? Well the opposite is true as well. The longer this goes on for you, the more it becomes normalized and the more repulsive you are to them. The cycle is perpetuated and you get locked ever further into a state of permanent cuckoldry.

In the time that it took you to read this, thousands more have literally forced you into this state. You can almost hear their moans of pleasure.
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>>558253243
Aren't half-elves naturally hairless?
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>>558253636
Yes, I just wrote that to min-max (You)s
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>>558253437
>but haste on Nenio is retarded.
It's not retarded because she's one of only two companions who get access to Haste, unless you do Loremaster dip for it
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>>558253636
what magic mechanism strips it from every section of the body except the head, where it seems to grow enough to give her long hair?
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I have gotten pretty far into chapter 2 in Rogue Trader and then found out about the DLC. I just bought it, is there much I lost out on because I am starting late?
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>>558254358
You won't be able to romance Solomorne and his dog.
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>>558249208
>an hour ago
>no update
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>>558254358
Not really, Lex Imperialis has very little to do in Act 1, and the Void Shadows stuff from Act 1 can easily be done in Act 2 as well, since they happen on your ship
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>>558254457
Is there a single Owlcat fan that actually wanted a romance with that character?
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>>558254721
yeah
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I HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE ROLL ABOVE 10 FOR 15 ROUNDS
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>>558254721
sure, owlcat fans love bbc
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>>558253824
Well yeah. 24 hour haste is too good to pass up.
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No matter what you racist chuds say, Owlcat will proudly continue to make more black men that you can romance!
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>>558252253
Nenio should collect all spells. For science.
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Let's talk about BG3's True Strike.
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https://vocaroo.com/14dpPu4k1VRR
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>>558255163
absolute funniest thing about all these fuckers masquerading as "racist is bad" chuds is that they'd flip their attitude without a second thought the moment they're accosted by a nigger for any reason
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>>558255569
Eh, there's a lot of real world examples of this not happening. A few infamous cases of women not reporting their rapist because they don't want to risk them getting deported
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>>558255420
What of it?
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>>558254537
Good to know. Thanks.
>>558254457
Oh no, my harem lacks BBC cucking. How will I survive?

Two side questions. Will I ever get to see or meet any orks? Love those little funny buggers. Also, am I pushing it for my first play through to kick up the difficulty to max? I did all the side quests I could get my hands on and I am not sure if it's just that I scaled past most side enemies, but even jacking up the difficulty to one below the max and it still wasn't much of a fight.
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>>558256529
I'm happy for you. Or sorry that happened.
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>>558256628
There's an Ork skull on Theodora's desk. That's about it.
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>>558256858
There is looted Ork gear and weapons in a pirate station along with Tau drones as background prop you can ispect
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>>558256628
>>558256858
you can also visit a minor planet which has some orc stuff laying around
can't recall the actual name pretty sure it is the first time you fight necrons
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>>558256969
Yeah but he wanted to see an Ork.
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>>558256513
It's literally a humiliation ritual and an IQ test. Why the fuck is it in the game?
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>>558255490
This but unironically
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I did try a bit of Solomorne's romance. I don't like the start because you have to hit on him aggressive and then it leads to passionless sex where he "breaks" up with you. Its very oddly paced. I think they tried to match how fast Kibbles fucks you.

Later you get to learn he honeypotted some governor and learned to play the organ and he has autism. A bit better.
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who is the 10/10 Disney princess of Rogue Trader and Wrath of the Righteous?
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Camellia
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>>558258282
Ember but you can't date her, shes a bit crazy and deformed.
Cassia ignore how she hates the poor and wants to mutilate them.
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>>558252717
not crpg
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if your waifu hates short men she is TRASH SCUM and should DIE
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>>558252717
not crpg either
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>>558258815
How tall are you
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>>558257502
Swen was too lazy to do the tabletop version. It wouldn't matter anyway.
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>>558258961
170cm
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>>558258225
>you learn he has autism
he fits in so well with the rest of my retinue
maybe I'll do an autism run
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halfling lives don't matter
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>>558259464
I like romancing Cam as a halfling for the amusing height disparity
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>>558259432
manlet
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>>558259753
cocksucker
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>>558259443
most of the RT characters have autism
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Remember to do lots of drugs fighting psychic fungi so they don't tentacle rape your mind
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>>558260351
imagine the hangover from all of this
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I finally did it
Oh
My
Fucking
God
I do not recommend doing this fight without a paladin with mark of justice the amount of damage the swarms could have dealt with that strat is insane
I would also advise you to have 10+ greater dispels with the azat tankard since those azatas can /(technically) dispel some buffs too
That shit took me 3 hours
It wasnt even cheese in the end I just had to go back a save to before I used greater heroisim to buff my team
Arue was useful here
Sleep can technically work I suppose, I saw his will get as low as 12 and you can dispel his +8 will passive, but what did it in the end is just sheer fucking numbers, his AI cooperating, and 10+ dispels.
The glasses that give you a guaranteed dispel check also helped tremendously
Spells suck for this, magic is so fucking trash in the this game outside of buffs I swear to god
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>>558260689
>52k exp
was it worth it?
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So anyway, I started blasting
>>558260689
You fought the true horror beyond even Rovagug.
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Holy shit this place is such a slog all of that and not even a single level if last place doesn't give me like 100k exp I delete the game.
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Kibellah doesn't care what my height is
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>>558261010
Yeah it sucks and is only worth doing on Unfair because you need the loot and extra xp ramp
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>>558260761
Yes because I beat him and that is unironically reward enough since the only reason I persisted was because I wanted to
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>>558239194
>4,5 hours ago
It's worse than I thought lol
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>>558248689
Sleep has a dc of 24-26 so his will being 32 + 8 means that they didnt need to make him immune
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>>558252253
she actually casts haste and nothing else because every enemy in this game is immune to mind altering effects
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What are some good custom portraits (non-sloppa) for WOTR?
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>>558260689
are you playing on mega hardcore
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Conjuration always wins, Illusion is for memes
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the nerds are talking about wizard schools again
gonna quote harry potter, boy?
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>>558261945
nah just core on my first time playthrough and this party comp and spell prep was a bit rough for this fight
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>>558261887
idk hth
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>"I don't need luck. I have strategy."
>burst fires into a crowd
>misses every shot
Pragmatic Male showing the world why he deserves the Warrant of Trade...
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>>558262684
"A wizard is always straight,
he comes to precisely what he means to"
-Dumbegalf
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man, what was even the point of these guys
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>>558263609
Character development for Faythe.
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Get read to slumbeeeeeeeer~
Oooh, that brotha gooooooooooooone
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>>558263312
>not playing as an operative sniper for pratical voice
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Act 1 finished

holy fuck, i forgot how absurd this build was
if it could do all the talking and exploration the mastermind shotgunner could do, it'd be the best but it's only the best combat wise
>>558263997
That was actually seeing what the Protectorate was like though.
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sex...
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Does spell focus work with metamagic boosted spells?
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the true reason to go rifle
making this shot

But no, really. Pistols are just subpar after a certain point. Sure, you'll crit every hit, but you won't do nearly as much damage as a rifle would. You'd also have far more limited range, which is accuracy. Dodge This adds crit chance based on accuracy. Therefore the highest synergy is with rifles overall.
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>>558264090
Trying to be Crime Lord officer-grand strategist but looks like me no big brane enuff.
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>>558261698
It's a weird monster with negative energy affinity that spawns undead so one would expect undead immunities. But it doesn't have those because it is alive. It's not even a demon.
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>>558265945
oh you meant it like that, totally agree
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I don't know what it is about WotR's writing, but outside of your party members, it's damn tiring to read in comparison to other RPGs.
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Pillar of Life
Spell resistance
What do you reckon is better as Daerens last level 5 spell?
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>>558266368
Outside of the major characters, a lot of dialogue is clunky, overly wordy, and boring. At the same time, you have to pay attention because Owlcat likes to sandwitch important between chunks of fluff. So yeah, with PF, I find myself having to take more breaks than I do with other cRPGs.

So basically, there's some really good writing in the main story and in your party, but outside of that, it's pretty shit.
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Detroit is where solo builds go to die, huh?
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I have no intentions of dying
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Do you want to live forever, son?
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>>558260689
I completely forgot Finnean has heartseeker which ignores concealment, couldve made that fight 10 times easier for you lol.
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Requiem for Detroit.
>>558267878
Wouldn't it pass through him since undead?
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>>558267127
>>558266368
It's just the way Russians write.
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And hello my reward. An end-game rifle
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>>558267878
I mean he did but you still need to remove a lot of dispels to get his ac low enough my slayer has around a 40 bonus at most but I guess he can be transformed into different weapons huh
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>>558268273
Dispels didn't work?
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consider starting a blog
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>>558268906
lord forbid we talk about crpgs in /crpg/
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the issue with crpgs is that they refuse to address deep philosophical questions
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>>558268660
They were really really hard to hit outside of the guaranteed one from my glasses
I needed to roll 16 or something, if not higher. I was level 14 at the time
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Does the baby have a use in Shadows of Undrentide or should I just dump it in the wilderness somewhere?
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I bring ember with me everywhere for those kino takes.
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>>558269538
bro you were supposed to give it back to the mother...
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>wotr
So how are the new heavy armor and shield feats? Am I still forced to play in pajamas?
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>>558269681
I was put in a self defence situation.
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a woman is at her most beautiful when she’s a little stinky
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>>558270231
Twitter Guru says not to bathe
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Romance in video games have conditioned players to approach dialogue by searching for the 'highest scoring' option. Compliment her, don't disagree with her, don't even look at her. Just look at what should be the friendliest sounding dialogue so you can get a softcore scene.
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>>558271238
The real thing to do is pick what your character would say and if the romance fails then it fails.
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why are crpgs afraid to add feminine women
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>mythic beast
>ascendant summoning
>zero abundant casting or greater endring sullying my build
Yep, it’s gaming time
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Camellia is the peak of femininity
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>>558174096
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>>558271910
too controversial
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>>558272038
idk what you call the equivalent of "there goes the neighborhood" for local tt scenes, but mine started to go to shit they started getting blacks who were non-stem nerds (already unicorns in their own right)
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>>558272037
>most feminine companions are Camellia (psycho bitch) and Sosiel (zesty nigga)
What did Owlcat mean by this
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>>558271238
That's only true for straight romance for gays it doesn't matter what you say you randomly end up in bed with them.
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>Impregnation ending
>No cuckoldry
Is that really all it takes to make you incels happy?
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>>558272969
and yet it's too much for devs to add
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>>558272969
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Any CRPGs where I can be a cowboy?
I've already done Fallout.
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Holy fuck Iz was a slog.
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>>558272969
apparently it's too hard for the devs
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>>558273207
Was it? I remember it being really short
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>>558273187
Wasteland.
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>>558273187
Underrail
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>>558272969
Why do you think I always pick Aerie in BG2?
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Why is everyone obsessed with cuckholdry these days
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>>558272662
They know how to write realistic characters.
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>>558272824
Why the fuck would anyone care about fag romances?
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>>558273868
That's my point they force faggotry onto us. This is borderline rape.
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I feel raped
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what game has bg3 combat where every melee, spell and even buff/curse feels impactful and loud?
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>>558274239
I mean larian only knows how to make divinity so I guess divinity
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>>558272038
>lawful thief
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>>558274318
Tax collector.
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>>558274239
eldritch blast had no business feeling so good to pop
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>>558274087
>they force faggotry onto us.
I have never felt/noticed this except in BG3. But that's mainly because Larian made it so that all romanceable companions take the first step when you get their approval high enough, still not that bad as they basically ask you if you're interested once and then if you tell them no it's never brought up again
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>>558274191
Don't you get this dialogue if you ask her about her past love life? What do you expect to happen when you ask this?
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>>558274612
doesn't every dialogue choice lead to that info dump?
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>>558274887
Even if it does, surely it makes sense for any couple to ask the other person about their previous relationships? Normal question you'd always ask once things get serious, no?
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>hello, hedwirg
>hello valerie
>his name was toma. we met when we were clearing the paochers out of the gronzi forest
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>hovering the mouse over the crusade decision actually tells you the effects it'll have
holy fuck i'm retarded
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>>558275327
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>>558275452
lol
lmao
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>>558275452
>i'm retarded
Yes.
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>>558275452
If you press R while in Drezen you can teleport to your chambers.
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>>558268132
>they're Russian
>90% of the endings are depressing
>the 'good' romance endings end in tragedy too
oh my god, it all makes so much sense now
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I wonder what class and level Toma was
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I'm glad I kept Cam alive until act 5. Killing her after she shanks her dad gave me the best rapier in the game.
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>>558276901
Fag.
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>>558277135
No u
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>>558276901
you didn't even post the rapier you retard
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>>558274318
Alignment was treated very differently pre-AD&D.
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>>558215129
Bro, your villagers are dying and getting experimented on and tortured and you're being a murderhobo?
>>558216552
I think revoler has a strength requirement of 4. If you're lucky you might buy one in the Den, which is the earliest you can get a revolver. It has really shitty range though
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>>558217019
Exceptionally garbage taste, as expected from kibelard
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>>558276367
Probably a pure martial. His sex skills were apparently high enough that Valerie still thinks about him and brings him up even though she's in a relationship with a literal King.
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>>558277693
That event only triggers later
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There is a way to keep The Pit independent, but there is no logical reason to want a lawless backwater for the sake of having a lawless backwater.
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>>558278332
That event triggers when either of these two conditions is reached - you find g.e.c.k., or you hit October 23, 2241 - whichever happens first
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>>558278568
Not a crpg. Nobody cares. Kill yourself
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>>558277931
holy gigachad
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>>558278816
>you find g.e.c.k.
Actually, apparently it's when you first leave Vault 13, which has always been the same shit for me
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>>558276367
What the fuck is a toma?
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>>558280003
A virgin slayer
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why do we have tards that don't want crpgs in a /crpg/ thread
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>>558275928
>>the 'good' romance endings end in tragedy too
Wrong. In wotr all romances have good satisfying endings. In rt all romances have good satisfying ensings (even though jimmy's shouldn't). Don't know about kingmaker, because all romances in it are shit
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>>558280637
This is a owlcat general
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>>558280781
>In wotr all romances have good satisfying endings
Except Camellia.
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>>558278568
There's no logical reason for the other factions to try to take over the Pit, either. There's nothing for any of them to gain from taking it. In fact, it will only drain their resources trying to provide for those people and fix up the bay.
Each faction only wants it because they think the other factions want it.
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>>558280983
Wrong this is a Dragon Age general sister
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when will owlcats releases stop being low budget png games with no voice acting
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>>558281140
Oh, you're right. I forgot about her because I always kill her
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>>558281290
>boggedlas
yikes
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>>558280637
Common mistake
This is the repetitive schizoposting about cam and yrliet thread
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>>558281413
voice acting killed crpgs for like 15 years
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>>558281413
Once Tencent buy them
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>>558281678
Maybe you shouldn't have dated trauma ridden crack whores then, mate
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>>558280003
A humiliation ritual
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valerie romance but toma comes back in chapter 5 to claim what’s rightfully his
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I fucking love that confusion stays after combat and that you casually roll 3 crits in a roll when it's against you but it never ever fucking happens against enemis.
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>>558281290
not my Solas
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>>558281180
Well, they do. Like the Protectorate wanting the Shuttle Bay. Reality is the Protectorate has the most manpower. That's what the Church and Brotherhood want, really need if they're going to stand up to any attack by them. It's why the Brotherhood doesn't outright take over the Factory: attacking them would drain their manpower but they have enough threat behind them to make them do what they want. The Church "imports" experts from the Pit, like Mad Dog Thompson. Garret was originally some quickdraw from the Pit too.

More than that, the Pitt is the stop right before the main scavenger sites of the ship. It's why Jonas set up shop to begin with. Hell, that's how you end up finding the thing in the armory. So yeah. The Pit is of strategic importance to some degree.
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>>558282051
WTF??????? 6 fucking crits in a row is this shit bugged???
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GO AWAY KEKFAGS
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>>558282216
That does make sense.
I wish Vince did a better job of showing the actual scale of the ship and how many tens of thousands of people are supposed to be on it.
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>>558281990
You're giving Owlcat ideas for the Regina romance
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Why couldn't you fuck Regina?
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Always make sure to have at least one summoner in your party.
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>>558282751
That's a problem with every game in regards to scaling, to be fair.
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Did a crpg romance ever make you cry/get emotional?
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>>558282893
In RT? She's a traitor.
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>>558269849
I like camp cooking in Kingmaker.
Adds a little extra flair.
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>>558269849
They make heavy armor more viable but you're still not going to be as tanky as the pajama tanks. Medium armor is actually better with tanking with their mythic feats. Especially since the AC bonus you can get from one of the feats actually stacks with bracers of armor.
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>>558282271
Owlcat is accepting of all gamers and fetishes
It's why Camellia, Wenduag and Yrliet exist
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Only Camellia's romance got me hard while reading
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>>558283310
I wish we could have dinners in RT with your bros... Imagine everyone sitting around the table, and having to maintain decorum while chatting with the people they hate
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>>558283284
So what?
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Why shouldn't I be a Tower Shield Specialist?
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Which fag at Owlcat is the one desperately insisting on mandatory non-respeccable levels/feats/talents on companions that are encountered at later levels? Why do they stubbornly hold on to that retarded game design?
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>>558284038
you could do that or be a pajamas wearing monk and be harder to hit
and tank more
and deal more damage
and have better mobility
and have similar levels of hp
and have better saves
and reflect projectiles
and not cry every time something targets reflex
and still have self buffs
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How will Sawyer meet the 30% margin requirement Microsoft is forcing?
Avowed 2?
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>>558284638
I hate how monks are the best at literally everything in kingmaker I made a monk since I never played one and I was basically solo playing the game.
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>>558284748
>"shouldn't have fire me Sawyer!"
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>shouldn't have fire
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Ok now this is podracing I want to apologize to spellcasters maybe they're not so bad.
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>>558285150
Indian hours, please understand
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>>558284748
he will be forced to whore out pallegina's cloaca to romancefags
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>>558284748
Like 30% profit margin?
That sounds a bit much when central interest rates are < 5%.

God, I still can't believe there was a time when raising money through borrowing was almost free.
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>>558283145
lol
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>>558285180
Spamming one of the most broken spells in the game isn't "spellcasting".
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Is /crpgg/ just a human zoo? For watching spergs and lonely autistic losers in their natural habitat?
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>>558286541
That's every general
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>>558286541
looking down below shows third world shitholes with rape and murder
looking up above shows rich private islands with rape and murder
/crpgg/ is actually the better part of society since we confine it to dollies
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>>558286541
For some reason every general is full of schizos. Be it /sp/ /tv/ or even /ck/.
I have no explanation for this. It's like schizos are drawn to specific closed societies or something.
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>>558286992
>I have no explanation for this.
It's simple: Normie sites or soft autist sites with accounts & good moderation won't tolerate their behavior so they come to a anonymous image board where it's easy as fuck to ban evade. We simple can't get rid of them, that's why they are here. They can't dump their load anywhere else, they need to share their mentally ill thoughts with others since it wouldn't be acceptable irl or any online community that isn't too far gone.
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>>558285180
Spamming one of the most broken spells in the game is spellcasting.
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>>558286541
where do you think we are.jpg
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I didn't trust Fall From Grace.
I didn't trust Arueshalae.
I completely trusted Xana.
What does that say about me?
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>>558288681
You are a good judge of character.
Xana is and always will be best girl. Loyal to you no matter what
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>>558274318
Like Bilbo Baggins
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>>558288681
Best girl, peak example of an evil romance done right.
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>>558288681
all women are demons
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>>558290097
Based and greekpilled
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How do I build Morrigan when I have a mage PC?
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>>558290503
you bench her
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>>558290503
Let her focus on entropy stuff. Misdirection Hex and Death Hex are very useful and so is Curse of Mortality. Grab Cone of Cold too even if your mage has it because it's too useful of a spell. After that it's general up to you. I don't like Wynne so I have Morrigan take at least the initial healing spell and then I spec her into blood mage for her second specialization.
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>>558289931
>Evil girl that loves (You) unconditionally and only wants what's best for (You)
Any more examples
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How do you even get Dark Messiah to run on modern PCs?
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>>558290981
it's a source game engine nigga
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>>558290853
if she loves you and wants the best for you how is she evil?
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>>558291381
Her idea of what's best for you is making you ruler of the world.
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>>558291442
... oh no?
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>>558291381
because you are evil nigga
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>>558291381
She's like your Ghislaine
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>>558280781
>In rt all romances have good satisfying ensings (even though jimmy's shouldn't).
I object. Jimmy derves happiness, too.
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I hope incels get a real female Eldar romance one day
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>>558293239
ok incel
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>>558293239
what's the femcel equivalent? eder?
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>>558289931
>>558290853
Redpill me on this game
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>>558290295
he's not wrong
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>>558294174
Dark Messiah
it's the kick game
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How do you guys not get burnt out from Owlkek games.
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>>558294960
different builds hehe
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>>558173280
>play DA
>apparently even Shale's master was a blood mage and the First Enchanter before Irving was supporting him
Lol wtf
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>>558294960
smooch different dollies each time
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>>558294960
I'm playing other stuff. Waifufags though can't let go
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>>558216552
well, you could just get some companions to handle combat for you for a while until you get your PA and curbstomp every living thing on the wasteland, that's what i did for my FO1 run anyway.
But if it really bothers you, then that's when you start a new game
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>>558294960
build autism
same reason some have 1000+ of hours in underrail even though the game is like 30 hours long max
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>>558296196
why would you not play a genre that actually supports build autism then
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>>558296196
unless you just rush main quest and skip everything there's no way you're beating underrail in 30 hours
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>>558296196
>build autism
But the games are terrible for build autism
t. Build autist
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>>558298614
what games are good for build autism
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>>558295113
Rather, smooch the same dollie each new playthrough and relive the perfect moments together.
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>>558298789
unironically underrail
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>>558298789
Path of Exile
a game that actually require a fanmade software to plan builds
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>>558298789
NTA. But I honestly think Deadfire is underrated for build autism.
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>>558299156
if the game can be beaten by casuals with casuals builds then by definition it does not support build autism
crpgs as a genre is hard capped in that sense whereas arpgs are not
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>>558299256
you did not just seriously said poe is hard?
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>>558297501
do you question autists and their will to do illogical shit
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>>558294960
I'm looking forward to that leaker who promised closed beta screens from that gay game I don't remember the name of.
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>>558299318
not necessarily mechanically but numerically some content is by design meant to filter 99.9% of builds unless they are created with intent and optimization
the same design can never appear in a crpg where an experienced player can fuck around and beat the game with a team of human fighters
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>>558297809
>unless you just rush main quest and skip everything
more or less
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>>558299256
I'd wager The Ultimate is pretty much as "numerically" hard as anything in Path of Exile.
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Camellia's vast dildo collection
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>>558299613
maybe I never cared about Deadfire but I doubt the purpose of such a difficulty in a crpg regardless
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>>558299474
if 99.9% of builds are not valid that just means the game is dogshit and it's literally opposite of build autism as there's no building at all you just have few valid options everyone copies.
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>>558299808
no you don't get it you can be a casual and do casual content or you can do a hardcore autist and do the content designed for the 0.1%, arpgs have both types of content whereas crpgs only have one type of content because it's ultimately meant to be beaten by casual Joe and I'm not even talking about the casual Joe who asks 4chan for tips
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>>558299713
>I doubt the purpose
It exists because Sawyer is himself an RPG build autist and enjoys seeing what other people do with his designs when they are pushed to the limit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlNJSsjIyp4
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>>558299964
you seem like you love sucking cocks
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>>558300058
not an argument
if you can beat the game with 4 human fighters there's no build autism possible
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>>558299964
Thats has nothing to do with build autism lmao. Its not like the "hard" content of poe takes any more skill than casual. Its just braindead grinding. Also the fun part of making builds is playing the game differently in poe every build plays exactly the same as in you cover entire screen and everything explodes. I always find it funny when people talk about "melee" builds and the build is you slamming the ground and the aoe the size of your screen appears. There's no variance melee, ranged, magic all plays exactly the same.

Also calling them action rpgs is a disservice to both action and rpg games as they have not a single element of either. Personally i call them neet games as their only purpose is to simulate working for neets who do nothing for 16 hours a day.
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>>558300492
I would stop replying to him, he's not very bright and will insist his dumb and very narrow definition of build autism is the only kind that exists
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>>558300492
>Thats has nothing to do with build autism lmao.
why not it's about making builds and being autistic
>"melee" builds and the build is you slamming the ground and the aoe the size of your screen appears.
you're criticizing the gameplay but that has nothing to do with build autism ironically
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Veilguard is the only RPG with romance that I have zero interest in any of the options. If you put a gun to my head and made me chose then maybe it would be between Neve and Bellara, but Neve's voice acting is fucking atrocious and Bellara's autism is annoying.
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>>558300615
>you're criticizing the gameplay but that has nothing to do with build autism ironically
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>>558297501
The average poster here would get hard filtered by a roguelike.
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>>558300784
I felt that way about Inquisition which is what made me stop playing Bioware games (it's not as if anyone likes them for the gameplay)
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>>558298587
based
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>>558300842
roguelikes are NOT hard
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Roguelikes are purely knowledge checks either you know how to handle a mechanic or you just get punished for it.
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>>558300842
I had no issues with both Hades games.

>>558300849
At least Inquisition had Cassandra. Even Josephine was qt though she was lacking content.
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>>558298587
Cute neko ears. Very wheeaboo.
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Somebody should release a dnd roguelike.
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>>558301387
>Hades games
>hard roguelike
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>>558300784
For me it's because it's an arpg. If it were a crpg, I would be much more forgiving. But all the dodging done exclusively by myself while they relax in the back and don't even have the basic decency to die for me turns me cold.
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>>558301850
Most posters here would get filtered by the ADOM games.
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>>558300812
you can't disagree because I'm right
"melee" builds being aoe screen clearing is unrelated to the idea that it takes hundreds of hours to make/plan (not grind) a good build in poe, aka build autism
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>>558294994
>fenris after getting proven right for the millionth time
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>>558300784
I'm a mulatta but I don't want to romance Davrin because I'm not attracted to darkskinned black men but I don't tell anyone cuz that's racist. So I lezzed out with Bellara.
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>>558294960
no game has ever come close to providing the same level of power fantasy
>own land, become king
>grow into substantial political power
>marry twin sisters
and
>smite the demonic host with the power of god
>become a semi-deity
>fuck bitches
not a single other game ever enters the same realm. reliving it for 2000+ hours is just a bonus
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Bioware made DA mages retarded on purpose so templars wouldn't look like a comically evil faction
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>>558253243
>like whether she shaves her bush
With how much she likes to groom I think she has a neat trim
>what her farts smell like
Absolutely rancid seeing as her favorite food is conflagtrant tacos
>what colour her nips are
Brownish pink, with extremely hard nipples when she gets aroused (murder)
>if she likes anal
Of course she does
>if she swallows or spits
Swallows, and is a ravenous cock sucker, probably with lots of biting
>if she likes to top or bottom
Tops, definetely
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>>558303231
>So I lezzed out with Bellara.
Absolutely disgusting. Why didn't you go for the crow incel, at least.
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>>558303880
His romance is short and he flirts with Neve, a lot of straight women complained about it because their only other options are the old man or BBC.
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>>558303475
those just describe paradox games
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>Seelah: Leaves you if Lich
>Arue: Leaves you if Demon
>Camellia: Leaves you if Aeon
>Wenduag: Never leaves you
Most loyal girl confirmed.
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>>558304224
>>Arue: Leaves you if Demon
not if you mindbreak her
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>>558304224
She'll always betray you though unless you either romance her or bully her.
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>>558303827
>>if she likes anal
>Of course she does
She absolutely doesn't. She has no problems getting all the vaginal she might ever want, why would she go for anal? It's not as if she has a prostate. So she only does anal during mfm threesomes.
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>>558303475
manchildren still obsessed with power fantasies are quite sad
the only type of story they like is the one where they become king-emperor-god and marry 72 virgins
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>>558304495
It never gets old.
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idea: a low-stakes crpg where you don't become a level 999 god and save the world, you just save your friends and lover and that's enough
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no one liked deadfire's main quest, sawyer
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>>558304982
Deadfire of course being a famously low stakes adventure where there's no godly world shaking stuff happening
Why don't you faggots play games good lord
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deadfire? isn't that the game where you become pirate king like in one piece?
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>>558305194
It's just glorified television for the Watcher
>Woah! Look at the gods bickering! Cuhrazeee!
>You need to side with one of these awful factions or make an ugly ship to complete the story!
>If you don't do anything, Eothas breaks the wheel. If you do something, Eothas breaks the wheel. It's the REASON that changes! OMG how profound!
Riveting stuff.
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Dany is the only one allowed to break the wheel
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why would I ever play a game when I can just look at my friends on /crpgg/ shitposting and repeat it
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>>558306176
We aren't friends
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>Literally does nothing wrong
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>>558306343
this is yrliet all over again...
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>>558306176
I can't shitpost about deadfire because nobody played it
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I played Deadfire
I don’t remember a single thing about the plot other than some giant statue god wanting to kill humanity or something
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>>558306398
He's the only sensible option. Angela is a retard. Though I wish Liberty had a proper route where you join her.
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>>558305908
how did wotr do this so much better?
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>>558304224
Wendu just betrays on every path...

Ember and Nenio are the only real ride or die girls on that squad
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>>558307462
>He's the only sensible option
Wrong just take over Colorado yourself
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>>558307470
That doesn't even remotely sound like wotr
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>>558308615
More games need a "just kill a ton of people and take everything over" evil route.
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>>558308813
>Iomedae and Nocticula
>Your crusade choices
>okay, you got me here
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You’re my favorite egg
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Arue the BBC queen
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>>558309821
>has combat
>characters come in different colors
wow wotr is basically just chess
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>>558311206
What time is it in California?
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>>558306652
Anon did not insult you, so not this is better than Yrliet actually
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Desna GUIDE MY HAND
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>>558311392
Like 11pm so its probably jeet hours now
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Desna guide my hand to that throbbing bbc
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>>558312589
It's SEA hours
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Euros are waking up and Ruskies have been awake for a while.
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I'm a fat incel chud who has never experienced and will never experience love in his entire life what crpgs best for me
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>>558314181
Rogue Trader and romance Yrliet
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Any CRPGs for a little goy wage slave with rotating shifts?
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>>558314239
What about Kibellah
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Companions for this feel?
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>>558305908
>OMG how profound!
There is a lot of things to criticise Deadfire's story over but that is actually profound. You are not all-powerful and Eothas is invicible, there is nothing you can do about it. It's foreshadowed throughout the entire story and it would be more of an asspull if you won. The point is that you can still influence Eothas even if you can't stop him. You can't control the flow of the world all on your own, no matter how powerful you are, but you can still influence it and influence the generations to come.
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>>558231161
Writing characters and cutscenes
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>>558299256
beat the game solo on potd then faggot
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Does Wenduag have anything to say or does she just repeat yes master over and over again?
I might as well have killed her kek
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>>558294053
Incels may get their eldar romance someday, but femcels aren't going to get Eder.
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>>558316819
NTA but I actually finished the ultimate around an hour ago funnily enough. Honestly once you reach past maerwald, the game isn't too hard so long as you properly prepare necessary buffs and spells for immunity to petrify + paralyze. Stun is a bit of a bitch but high defences and the major recovery potion can help.
I will say I played a tanky chanter build with boots of speed which meant I could either face tank whole screens and burn everything once I reached level 9 or if it was dangerous, easily run max agro range. Everyone talks about the dragon threshed chant and the ogre summons, but those level 16 summons is super underrated, they helped trivialise concelheit, llengrath and all the dragons even if they didn't do crazy damage, they were tanky enough for me to be able to resummon them again by the time they died if they even did die.
You can also abuse the shield from Alpine Dragon that gives you withdraw since you can still chant when you are invulnerable. I was shocked at how easy these end game bosses were with scrolls like moonwell and even paralyze on some bosses. Honestly, one of the bounties almost made me shit myself more than these bosses, it's one of the DLC 2 bounties.
Thaos is a complete victory lap even when I accidently did the high level scaling by mashing the space bar.
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>>558317717
Something I need to say to people that want to try it are a few things that others might not say as often.
1. Learn the games "random" loot system, which is utter dog shit depending on the day of the month you click on a chest. There are some important items like the mechanic gloves which not only spawn in few places but also on specific days, meaning you can possible have it never spawn on your run.
2. Mechanics is one of the most important skills to skip getting keys and directly lock doors, high enough stealth is probably a higher priority though so you can skip fights, followed by having 10 lore if you are non priest so you can use the important scroll that gives you immunity to petrify and paralyse, which will easily kill your run. Consider keeping items that will boost skills for specific skill checks.
3. Expert on means you can't see what dialogue gives what disposition, which can be minor benefits for skipping whole fights to downsides choosing the wrong disposition on priest or paladin. You also can't see your own aoe which isnt that big of an issue in solo but you can accidently hit yourself with your own spell.
4. I would suggest builds that can be efficient while moving around, facetanking is viable but that requires some knowledge of chokepoints to mitigate damage. Abusing agro ranges makes the ultimate so much easier.
5. Abuse rests, there is no reason not to since there is no time limit at all. Not only is caed nua or the gilded vale a free heal but also refreshes figurines and per rest spells.
6. If you really have to, you can abuse alt+f4 and backup save files. But where is the fun in that? The few times I have done so, I felt like I robbed myself.
I might start another ultimate playthrough with a different class.
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>>558317717
>no level scaling on
You did not beat the game ;)
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>>558317717
>summons
This should negate solo runs.
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>>558290853
Minthara. Her ending if you destroy the brain is that she encourages you to either take over the city, or go to the Underdark and establish a new house in your name. She wants to be a queen, and wants to conquer, but doesn't really mind how or where. It's a pretty neat evil romance and evil ending that is not actually super evil since everything she says about how to actually rule is either up to you or just standard LE governance which are popular both in setting and in real life.

Her ending if you keep the brain is more evil, but is also still the two of you ruling the world together.
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Is the kvetching about Underrail requiring external build guides to beat on normal difficulty justified? Or is it just a matter of making sure you properly invest into a combat specialty that makes sense?
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>>558321962
There is no other way to get around the brutal early game
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>>558321960
The best part of BG3 was the d20 rolling on screen. It really helped with my immersion.
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>>558317717
Nicely done. But do keep in mind that The Ultimate in Deadfire ramps things up quite a bit thanks to all the god challenges.
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>>558322864
>Or is it just a matter of making sure you properly invest into a combat specialty that makes sense?
in way yes, but it's pretty easy to fuck up your build and getting stuck somewhere, especially when you're new and don't know what feat's worth taking
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>>558317717
gj anon i think i remember you
did you watch those vids for inspiration or was this mostly a solo endeavour?
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Why would anyone worship demons and evil entities in Golarion?
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>>558324261
same reason why people support trump irl
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>>558324370
retardation, propaganda and spite?
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>>558324261
Same reason people support chemical sterilization of minors
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>>558324261
Some people are genuinely evil and actually just agree with them. They want to see the world burn.

Some people are not as smart as they think they are, and think they can trick them or outsmart them to gain power without actually helping them much.

And some people are so dumb that they are actually fooled by propaganda when these evil entities say they're fighting for freedom from heaven's tyranny, or you need to be evil to fight evil because good is weak, and such nonsense.
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>>558324439
yes
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>>558324261
Evil promises reward.
Good says the deed itself is its own reward.
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>>558324628
>or you need to be evil to fight evil because good is weak
regilsisters....
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>>558324786
But then your soul will burn in hell forever
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You require my unbiased opinion?
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>>558322864
No totally not. I beat underrail on normal completely blind with spear stealh dodge/evasion build. Only redditors need guides because they're 80iq retatds.
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>>558325674
Uhmmm no I will actually become a devil and chill and Asmodeus will overthrow the other gods
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>>558325674
But I'm the main character?
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>>558325685
A success worthy of praise!
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>>558325674
Hell will need reliable middle-managers to oversee the other tortured souls. A loyal servant of the dark powers gets promoted.
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>>558325581
>the side of good isnt weak you are
Regil literally is "good" all things considered.
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If worshipping good deities is so great and awesome why do wars and suffering still happen? Why did my village have to burn or get raided by orcs?
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Desna mogs Iomedae so hard it isnt even funny
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>>558325975
Because without great evil, there can be no great good. It would only be neutral.
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>>558325975
You can't rely on gods to solve all your problems
-Ember
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>>558325954
I don't understand why don't everyone worship a group of gods instead of having to choose just 1
Are there more godclaw like groups?
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>>558243551
Unfortunately completely incorrect. The game is very constant about refusing to heal characters that break line of sight from channel even though its a burst effect (can round corners)
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How long is act 4 wotr
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>>558325975
there can only be one super awesome god
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>>558264261
>>558265290
Pistols get high reaction chance, so don't you basically get a free critical hit on every enemy every time they move or miss?
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>>558325975
Iomedae was busy getting plapped by my legend kc
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>>558323618
The problem with the videos is that they changed the random loot which made it very hard to follow. I only skimmed through boss fights after maerwald or some of the harder areas.
>>558325975
Pagan deities are actually retarded and incompetent. The more CRPG's I play or ancient mythology I look at, the more incoherent polytheism and dualism is. I find it strange how many fantasy works borrow medieval christian aesthetics but never a christian worldview or metaphysics.
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>>558327057
Leave it to larpers to power level autism christianity
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>>558327057
Pagan dieties usually reflect or embody an aspect of humanity or nature. They're a part of the world, rather than a wildly separate and incomprehensible creator.
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>>558327057
If you've actually read about and researched christianity and judaism's origins and early history you'd know that the religion is the same in most fucking ways lol dont even start it
That christian worldview is from greek philosophy and early jewish apocalyptism. Yahweh is a pagan god from the polythiestic caanite panthon and there are literally hints of this in the oldest texts of the bible if you know where to look, and that is with the bible being edited. Judaism in its early days was polythiestic and christianity directly borrows from it.
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>>558327057
>I find it strange how many fantasy works borrow medieval christian aesthetics but never a christian worldview or metaphysics.
What does that even mean
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>>558327057
retard
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did you guys really have to reply to the tradcath bait
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>>558328085
Yes.
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>>558328085
>merely pretending
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>>558327620
All religions have an uncreated god which created the world out of nothing? That's almost only Christianity and you trying to act like Judaism was polytheistic is retarded considering the bible often talks about how Israel fell away constantly, even as far back as Moses when they worshipped the golden calf which was considered idolatry. There's so many things wrong with this statement, lay off the DMT and do actual research.
>>558327767
What I mean is fantasy writers often take inspiration from middle age europe with castles and knights for example but then have a world with multiple gods, its kind of jarring how anachronistic it is. I think the closest thing to christian would be Lord of the Rings.
>>558328085
Idk how you got tradcat from saying paganism is retarded.
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>take light armor focus on cam
>realise that air barrier is my armor bonus and not the mithral chainshirt
>it only gives armor enhancement
>wasted a feat
Sigh what now?
She doesnt get many feats either but I dont want to back 30 minutes
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>>558328349
>All religions have an uncreated god
Yes
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>>558328349
>All religions have an uncreated god which created the world out of nothing? That's almost only Christianity
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>>558328349
I am sure you know better than the religious historians and archaeologists whose works I've been reading
You've certainly read the bible at the very least haven't you?
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>>558327057
Modern pagans are retarded but pagan deities are more or less archetypes
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>my semitic paganism is better than yours goyim!!
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>>558326414
Shorter than a metaphysics debate on /crpg/
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>>558328468
Objectively false, many if not most pagan religions don't even believe the world itself was created but is eternal. You really have to struggle to find a religion outside of Christianity where God created the world out of nothing.
>>558328534
You mean atheist historians who have an axe to grind? Archaeological evidence doesn't tell you which belief is authentic or original belief in the first place considering oral tradition is how juidaism was practiced. If I have a fraudulent transcript of something historical that is older and another transcript that is authentic even if it is a newer copy, are you gonna go with the former because it is first? What is the criteria to sift out what is actually true and what isn't?
>>558328785
Do you truly think pagans in the ancient world held to a jungian view of their gods and that they didn't think they actually exist? I have no reason to think that the ancient world only saw god as merely an archetype considering the ritualism and practices of the time.
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>>558328785
Speaking of archetypes, I hate almost all of them in Rogue Trader. Wish I could just level soldier on everyone for every tier.
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>>558329160
Seems you have an axe to grind yourself thus nobody should trust your judgment either.
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>>558329160
>You really have to struggle to find a religion outside of Christianity where God created the world out of nothing.

that's not how it happened according to yahweh
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>>558329291
Not an argument, I didn't make the fallacy of appealing to authority. You can't tell me how archeological evidence of pagan practice proves that judaism was originally pagan.
Whatever, my post was originally about how retarded paganism and polythetism is, I didn't even bring up monotheism as a defence or how it is good but you pagan larpers are insecure about a god you don't even worship.
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>>558329160
>where God created the world out of nothing.
Literally every pagan religion has a creator God
wtf are you even taking about?
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>>558329160
>many if not most pagan religions don't even believe the world itself was created but is eternal.
That's really not true
In the Greek mythology I think there were creator gods. Uranus and his wife named for the sky or something? But they were destroyed in the process.
And the norse religions have the world starting with Ginungaap
In fact I don't think any religions have an eternal uncreated world.
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>>558329513
>my feelings are more important than facts
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Theology with /crpgg/
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>>558329160
>You mean atheist historians
jewish and christian historians retard
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>>558329160
Shintoism, Taoism and Hinduism all have a designated creation god
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I don't like gods, not being atheist, just don't like 'em
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Oh am I laffin
By the way while recording this I noticed that wotr was using 99% of my gpu, I have a 3070
Is the game mining ethereum while its running or something? It gets super laggy when I use certain spells and have a lot of summons and the memory leaks seem to be crazy
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>>558329513
Judaism is explicitly the belief system of a group of tribes. That's exactly what pagan religion is.
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>>558329160
>Do you truly think pagans in the ancient world held to a jungian view of their gods and that they didn't think they actually exist?
Some philosophers did, but they were treated with derision by the general public. There was a play along these lines, mocking this overly-abstract interpretation, in which a philosopher worships a whirlwind, declaring it equivalent to Zeus. Most people treated the gods as actual individuals with real personalities.
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>>558329810
>s the game mining ethereum while its running or something?
it is a russian company after all
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>>558329810
never use armor on her past level 11, unless you're doing nature for pet
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>>558329723
>You don't have to like them, just do the rituals and follow the rules
Standard pagan reply to your statement, which just so happens to be the Jewish attitude to God also.
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>>558330012
why do you have blessing on instead of greater heroism?
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>>558330091
good point, I should take that off the buff routine
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>Pagan larpers have to lie and pretend that their favourite religion they don't actually believe has a God who created the whole world and universe
I have no idea why you guys can't actually defend paganism for what it is, you have to argue some weird christianized version of paganism where somehow hindus have the same personal deity that christianity does. I'm not even saying to believe christianity, but at least be honest to yourself and say it isn't even close.
>>558329963
I can agree with that to some degree. I think there is a case to be made that some greek philosophers argued against greek mythology and common beliefs for the time. I just don't think people were practicing sacrifice to a god that they didn't think was real, that just sounds so absurd even without looking at the historic evidence.
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>>558329834
exactly
the word "pagan" literally means rustic or peasant/rural
judaism is as pagan as it gets
it's literally a tribal religion
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>>558329810
Might be a you issue i only noticed memory leaks when I was playing for like ~30 hours non stop. I do have 64gb ram and 20gb vram tho so maybe that's why.
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>>558329810
>the mithral chainshirt with a +3 enchantment?
>-1ac
>the 2 armor, 1 enchancement padded armor of focus with 8 max dex that I found in act 1?
>it gives me 2 ac
Amazing
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>>558330584
that's because of weight
you go from light to medium
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>>558330584
This is why people stop wearing armour. The only time armour makes any sense is if you're a fighter with armour training feats.
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>>558330462
i have 32gb but it might be the vram of my 3070 yeah
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Here you go
Greek origin myth
Couldn't be more straightforward
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>>558330774
>Erebus

Holy shit is that a Warhammer 40k reference?
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>>558330584
I'm not a min maxer and I don't know much about pathfinder but in my playthrough I noticed bracers of armor +8 and haramaki +5 is 13ac - can be worn by anyone, doesn't restrict your dex AC bonus and doesn't slow you down. So it felt like the best combo on everyone.
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>>558330756
Doesn't it just mean that the DnD system of "armour class" is broken?
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>>558329160
It's kinda amazing how this new generation of trad larpers manage to act like obnoxious fandom secondaries for a fucking religion
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>>558330295
you're the one who is having a melty about the origins about your religion
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>>558330774
Thank you for proving my point how this is completely unlike Christianity by showing that the greeks believed the universe came to exist through Chaos.
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