Finish the cycle of eternal return editionNioh 3 is outhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3681010/Nioh_3/
I executed Kunimatsu
>game crashed for the first time ever>it only saves when you pray at a shrine>lost a lot of progress including killing the spider boss (I fucking hate spiders)
1kat will surpass itself when the inevitable Ninja Gaiden content is added.
What's your favorite weapon and why? If you are about to reply 1kat, do not bother, I do not want to read how you think that weapon that does everything better than everything else is your favourite.
>>558383062Ninja gaiden set will buff ninja 1kat.
>>558383071Repostan my own post fron /v/>1katAmazing rebalance of almost the entire kit. Several previously terrible moves (Reverse Impact, Severing Spin, Swift Step) are now absolutely incredible.For some reason high stance light combo chain has more lag between attacks.>2katBy far the best iteration of the weapon yet. Rajin is finally good. Sign of the Cross became even better as it pierces through, cementing it as the best iai weapon.Inputs were spread out in a way that gives you access to almost the entire kit at once which is something you see with other weapons too.>AxeOf all weapons, Axe received the biggest buff and rework. Finally has attacks on basically every input. Got ridiculous new abilities like Victory Rush. Feels insanely fluid and fun to use, in some ways reminds me about monhun hammer now thanks to the way it combos flow with frost moon.Amazing>CestusLiterally in the "improving the perfection" territory. The only bad thing i can say about it is that Ocean Zephyr's new input method sucks, it should be on a guard dodge and not guard + hold dodge, that shit exists to maintain stacks and i cannot do it right now.>SpearReceived nothing truly new but generally got most of its kit buffed and moved around. The fact you get Triple Threat early is ridiculous.>SwitchglaiveFrost Moon and stance switch abilities give the weapon essentially 6 ways to end or chain any combo. Gets Arc of Chaos and Mumyo's mid stance hold super early now so it's even stronger than it was in 2.>OdachiOf all the samurai weapons, the only one that feels nerfed. Too many hold triangle inputs but two vacant guard X slots. Bolting Boar is gigafucked and is essentially useless. Most hold triangle abilities feel nerfed for no reason. Cool new low stance skills and a powerful fire aoe, but otherwise feels like a pale shadow of its former self. The only weapon that really needs a buff. At least let me map more skills.In the end i can't pick 1. All of them are good.
>>558383071grug pick axe, axe fun
They should add the Umbrella weapon from Wild Hearts into this game. That weapon is soooooo goooood.
>>558383441Umbrella or war fan would make an excellent and unique last samurai weapon.War fans could have a really cool dancing moveset.
The final boss is so hard I'm honestly not sure if I can beat it. Game is fucking cracked compared to Nioh 2.
>>558383441>Wild HeartsI'd like to try that but apparently I missed a huge sale that was recently
>>558383071>not allowed to like my fav (1kat) because now its op and not allowed to like my second fav (odachi) because its shit and liking it makes you a contrarian hipsterat least i can still like them 1 and 2.......
>>558383071>What's your favorite weapon and why?Fists>and why?I like hitting big things in the face. There's something primal about it that I can't explain
>>558383532War Fan sounds really cool. I remember that being a weapon in most Dynasty Warriors games. The latest one Origins is so good too.>>558383776You should. It's really fun.
>>558383071>What's your favorite weapon and why?Odachi>It is dogshit in 3, which is also dogshit, however.
>>5583830712kat, hatchets, and fists.2kat: I'm one of the original longtime Nioh fans and it's always been my baby since 1. It got a lot of great improvements/additions in 3 and I also like/use it's ninja version. It feels good deleting ki bars with God of Wind and it has a bunch of other good moves as well. I just like it's moveset. hatchets: my new baby in 2, the unique hybrid ranged/melee style is a lot of fun and allows nonstop aggression from any distance. I also like it's ninja version in 3 a lot.Fists/cestus/claws: They came in the last dlc for 2 so I didn't have quite as much time with them but I still like them a lot. I tend to like claws/fists in a lot of action games like Ninja Gaiden and DMC for example. It's just a token rush down action game weapon that's always satisfying. I like it's ability to chain martial arts in Nioh which allows for a lot of different combos.
>>5583830712kat
murakumo sounds like those paint piranhas from mario sunshine
Yeah I'm never beating this, jesus fucking christ this is hard.
>>558385262I stopped giving a shit and started getting carried in co-op all the way back in Warring States. Without ninja's bullshit the game is just impossible.
>>558385506https://x.com/xelod93/status/2024135767270855092samurai mogs ninja thougheverbeit
>thundering calamity just instantly shotguns across like 30mwhat the fuck
>>558385561Shut up retard.
>>558385692the only retard here is you for getting filtered
>>558385658also pierces enemies, and stays out long enough that you can use it like a flamethrower
>my brain is starting to mix Wo Long memories with Nioh 2 memoriesI don't think people gave the former enough credit. That is the best non-Nioh Team Ninja has made during their souls-like era, not Strangers of Paradise.
>>558383290>>2kat>By far the best iteration of the weapon yet. Rajin is finally good. Sign of the Cross became even better as it pierces through, cementing it as the best iai weapon.>Inputs were spread out in a way that gives you access to almost the entire kit at once which is something you see with other weapons too.You think that SotC pierece is better than Ultimate Sign of the Cross? How so?
>>558385262I one try'd him in his last fight but in his previous forms in antiquity I was up all night trying to beat him
>>558386351
>>558386567Same thing with me. I think it has to do with how dark the arena is
how come after an attack is blocked, it ignores my input if i then try a martial art? like it will throw out the attack again. is this a 'mechanic' or is buffering inputs fucked here? a control type A issue?
>>558386426Nta but you can use both, Ultimate SotC is just the follow-up attack that works off of both fully charged versions of SotC.
>>558386351yeah no
how long does it take for bloodedge demons to respawn?
>>558386983nah the game is a little fucked
How do I learn this game?
>>558386351I like Ronin and Wo Long a lot actually
>>558384687i hate that bolting boar doesnt work on yokai anymore
>ywn have a waifu that will play your boss theme for you when the going gets toughwhy even live
>didn't do tutorial>miss a bunch of 1st zone quests that unlock like 5 different time travel questslol ok
>>558388251just play it
welp 100% get
>>558389640You actually got all the crucible spikes on NG+? Absolute madman
>>558389714nah i meant all trophies, but that's next, and i already have all the crucible skills
>>558388803I didn't realize she buffs both the player and wacky woohoo pistol man with her music, thats pretty rad
>>558389513I am very bad.
>>558389867Oooh I see. Gratz anon!
>>558389973so was i when i started nioh 1
55 spikes is the start of diminishing returns for spirit force
>>558388803>>558389879The shamisen string per revolver shot was soulful as fuck. Perhaps the most soulful thing in game really.
Any spearbros here? I'm finding it way harder to chain art proficiency moves than with say axe. Any tips? Is spear flourish fucking me over here?
>>558390454>Is spear flourish fucking me over here?yes unfortunately
>>558390628Weird how that works when the other weapon unique ki pulse attacks actually get buffed by proficiency..
Is it worth sitting in that packed room in A Sinister End and spamming Hellfire to farm motley Divine gear, or are drops region-locked and I'll just find the same shit over and over?It feel like the Sudama Blessing is broken either way because I never find the shit I have selected in it.
>>558391731i think drops are based to what you kill
>>558388803>waifuThat's a guy
why the fuck does wagon kick water have like 3 times the element buildup of any other attack
>crucibles just respawn all the fucking time when you start getting near 0i see, i see...
do backwave and bolting boar count as deflects for skill triggers?
>>558383071I wish spears were better in Nioh. I never liked the skills for the most part, especially the charging one, but the ki pulse move and base swing are so cool. Since Nioh 3 can't do anything right they've of course didn't really improve it but after looking at what they've done to Odachis I should consider myself lucky.Fists are amazing but I wish they were Talons instead. I don't like how the actual Talons are Ninja only and the stance is a low one, doesn't look very cool.I end up using 1kat most of the time as it old reliable. But I have to say they made ninja 2kat amazing.
>>558392462no
>>558383705My theory is team ninja gave the real actually good version of the game only to a few random peoples as a joke.That's the only way to explain how this game is the easiest ever or harder than anything depending on who you ask.sadly I'm stuck with the ez version and got bored, lol
>>5583832901kat having moves like sword ki and discernment moves locked to only one stance kinda suck thoughCestus are mostly fine i like their frost moons but, A big issue with them is that flux 2 cant be performed with rising gale reverting you to the first stance switch after the end of the animation which fucking blows, I think dual swords have the same problem with winter wind
>>558388803>>558389879>>558390445
Tell me how to dodge this cheating retard's grab. It has a hitbox the size of a barn and can turn 90 degrees on a dime.
>>558389879Is it possible to get that hyper armor buff
>>558393795run away
>>558393795The only consistent means I found was to already be at some distant away from him and keep running to the side. His grab has a huge hitbox but poor tracking.
So if I wanted to learn the game fairly without abusing anything clearly unbalanced, what would be the best weapons in both types?
>>558393795You block
>>558394329>without abusing anything clearly unbalancedWrong game series for that mentality
>>558394329this isn't that kind of game
>>558394329SamuraiSwordSpearCestusNinjaNinja SwordDual Ninja SwordsTonfas
>>558394567>cestus>tonfaslmao, literally the most ungabunga weapons
>>558393825in previous games you'd get it from shin-roku but not this time idk
>>558394347>grab>block???
>>558395002Then you dodge
>>558393795You have to run away unironically. It's an awful boss fight.
grapple should do more damage in Nioh 3
>>558394690Cestus you need to be very mindful of ki management Ninja doesnt fucking matter anyway all weapons there are ungabunga but atleast tonfas have more interesting options
>>558395987>Cestus you need to be very mindful of ki managementYou really don't if you know how to flux
>Yasakani questionCan revenants in crucibles drop them? Finally doing targeted farming on them at A Sinister End and doing them alongside the vassals since they drop a lot of purples/divines.
>>558395913they do if you take the clan that gives reduced defense on grapple. in nioh 2 at least it's the best damage scalar in the whole game, at high levels it effectively multiplies your damage by at least 3 especially if you build into it
>>558396112Fluxing is ki management
>>558396217You got me there
>>558396179I don't think revenants has ever dropped accessories.They drop equipment that the player was wearing when they died.
>>558388803>fucks his guardian spirit irlHow does Revolver Nipponman get even more based?
My level is always like 10 more than the recommended area lolI simply explored every corner, I didn't farm levels or anything
>>558394528>>558394501>>558394567Maybe I should re-phrase it, what are 2 of the shittiest weapon types in each category? I finished the game and doing final boss with 1Kat Ninja did not feel fair at all for him, and Cestus obliterated fish guy before him so I assume it would be the same on last boss. So shitty weapon is what I'm looking for.
>>558396510The recommended levels mean nothing in Nioh games
>>558386983>>558388245The input reader and buffer are both basically broken on either console or PC and on controller or KBM
>>558396549>what are 2 of the shittiest weapon types in each category?People have been shitting on the Glaive and Splitstaff lately
>>558389879BasedI love shinsaku man, best bro in RotR
>>558382930>losing "progress" at the very start of the gameI mean it sucks but that's literally like the 2nd boss in the game.I guess if you didn't shrine at all during the cave yeah that's pretty annoying.
>>558396549as far as being objectively bad idk, but i dislike switchglaive and splitstaff
>>558396549Odachi is very meh I thinkTalons, splitstaff and kusarigama I think arent all that great either
>>558396549>SamuraiOdachiSpear>NinjaKUSOrigamaSplitstaff
>>558396775The spider boss is nowhere near the 2nd boss, bro
game is severely lacking in 1v1 boss scrolls
>>558396549Odachi is kind of shit if you don't abuse the ground sweep attack. It somehow does less damage than 1kat with only range as it's upside.As for ninja, I don't like kusarigama and splitstaff. Talons do a fair bit of damage and have access to a number of cestus skills so they can easily be played as a more limited but still powerful cestus.
>>558396918Idk why they didnt do a boss dojo like in rotr...
>wait a minute, could you fight him in this and I just missed it?
>>558396918Yeah that shit is annoying. There are tons of yokai I want to fight again but I don't want to have to run through levels to get to them.
>>558397379he appears in a quest
Ok i'm in ng+ how do quickly get a lot of greens
Why is Ninja 2kat tree basically empty? There is like nothing to choose from.
>>558397724You're expected to aerial combo and nothing else
>>558397629You just play the game and they drop like flies
>>558396549From my very limited experience>NinjaSplitstaves: How would you like slow buttons in a form all about mobility and making use of small frames of opportunity? It has one decent poke skill that's good for ninpo spamming I guess.Kusa: Played with them extremely little, they seem fine but not spectacular.>SamOdaichi: From what I hear they suck but considering the Switchglaive slander? Perhaps its skill issue, might be something that really requires good use of the arts proficiency system to cheat ki costs for I've fine great work with Switchglaives (you can combo extend into Celestial Retribution and Cyclone Wind is very good at applying wind).2nd: No clue, my next intended build is samurai at least so I will get more exposure on the weapons here.>>558397629Fastest way would be crucibles as crucible-weapons become Divine-only on top of how much more loot you get in crucibles than outside of it. Furthermore in NG+ crucibles are locked to the highest rarity, Divine in this case.
>>558397629Hunt revenants, they drop what the player was wearing when they die.Get high luck, luck affects the rarity of loot.Get high equipment drop rate, affects the quantity of loot.
>>558397193Or cosmetically layering your outfit. Or having whole character bonds with interactions and quests. Or having dynamic time of day and weather. Or having roaming player characters or NPCs. Or a personal longhouse that has been straight up removed. Nioh 3 is strangely so very barren despite being clearly forked from RotR.
>>558397873how
>>558397379scroll all the way up in the heian zone
>>558397724Because both ninja 1 and 2 kat are essentially new weapons, the other weapons are returning weapons that had 3 stances full of skills. Talons is sort of new-ish as well but has more shared fists skills since the animations already work for it. The ninja katana are wielded in reverse grip so while they do have some shared skills with their samurai versions, it's probably harder to adapt skills.
>>558397873You want to be using aerial stuff but you to be Shadow Slicing on the ground as well. That attack hits surprisingly really hard, especially on the back.>>558398931Divine Flight, aerial GS skills like tengu, normal air quick attacks, and Spinning Drill. Divine Flight is what allows you to stay up long. It's a crucible skill but you need it. Also Shadow Slice for on the ground, which is also a crucible skill.
I remember in Nioh 2 you could farm Otakemaru for smithing texts, including One Eyed Dragon and Justice Ministry. Is there the equivalent in 3 and are those sets even in the game? I've seen a couple of returning sets already
>>558400223Like half of the sets didn't return. It's one of the noticeably lacking things along guardian spirits but not as extreme.
What is the best grace/set bonus for being a jack of all trades(not sticking to one weapon)??
>>558401000Wayfarer
Is all of the shitting on Odachi just a doomposting because it bounces on block now? I feel like damage is solid on the weapon, Twin moons and moonlit snow both are completely fine to me. The biggest issues are bounce and awful Ki damage.
>>558401506It's Odachibabs crying.I remember when it was first introduced in Nioh 1's DLC it was widely seen as the noob crutch weapon having decent speed, good reach, and high damage.
Why did they put the transmog screen in the location with the worst possible lighting
does spear have any strong options vs blocking humans? like without AG
>>558401810they didnt think about a fucking thing
>>558402085Spear doesn't have any strong options vs anything
>>558402085>>558402162nvm spear shove spam is enough
what are you meant to be doing with each piece of unwanted gear? I figure you want to soul extract the ones with +levels on them but idk what to sell, what to dismantle, what to clan donate, what to donate to shrines. There's a warning when you try to do anything with gear that has maxed familiarity so I assume thats good for something besides the damage bonus
https://youtu.be/-v8VTUiaa74how do we feel about the Bakumatsu battle theme?
splitstaff is sleeper
>>558404275Splitstaff is in a fucking coma, let it go already
Enemy damage is definitely lower. I remember when skeletons were the scary yokai in a mission. Now they're actually just an annoyance.
if my inventory is full how do i leave a crucible to unload my stock?
>>558402690I can't be ass to think too much and just bulk dismantle/donate/whatever them as needed.Clan donate is what I do when I have no need of mats since you want to max out your clan rank for bonuses anyway.
>>558404756They're still scary compared to the others, but the others hit like sickly kittens
>>558404793Bring up the map and look in the bottom left corner
>>558404982>>558404793Or pray at a shrine and choose "Leave"
They really exaggeratted with the fucking cannons and abberant soldiers in ng+
>>558405286You WILL style switch gust and you WILL like it
>>558405286This is where I wish we had rise of the ronin flashpoint projectile counter.Would actually be kino chain reflecting canon balls back at enemies for the final map.
Has anyone seen Extended Elemental Weapon on soul cores? If so, rarity of the affix + boost?
So I've been playing with a Switchglaive and Skill is my highest stat.I just unlocked a second weapon spot, does this mean only Spears are viable if I want to pair it with a Switchglaive?Can I make Axes scale with Skill instead of Strength for example?Is the second weapon slot bait? Do people really switch between weapons AND stances AND samurai/ninja style in one fight?Seems like there are so many options the game gives you.
>>558407424>Can I make Axes scale with Skill instead of Strength for example?You can make AN axe scale with skill instead of strength, remodeling is per weapon only, not per category.
>>5583830712kat all day
Holy shit elemental talisman and inari set are busted as fuck
>>558407843Ok thanks, I'm not sure I have that unlocked yet in my Blacksmith
>>558407847I really wanted to like samurai 2kat but every stance forces a parry move martial arts that only really work on humans. Cant get used to not having access to an L1 + triangle move at all times
How would you rank the guardian spirit skills?
>>558408054for me it's cutting blade + spear
Have there been any good updates? I'm playing on the pirated version so the release day version. What was nerfed/buffed since then?
>>558410261Mostly relatively minor bugfixes.
>>558383071odachishits on everything with very little effort so hopefully dlc is more difficult
where is it going?
>>558412145Bro really went fuck this shit I'm out
Post fashion.
>>558408054If using ninja you can skip the elemental talisman step in one of two ways>Tengen Kujuku (Ninja Guardian Spirit)Heavy skill is a random element and very generous with its duration (the 15% from him is all you need if aggressive).>Shadowclad (Ninja Skill)Any shadow-art works, not just the calamities (poison breath is an option if wanting a kuzuryu splash). Important because the duration on this is very fucking short so having the uncannies to be more disposable/fast acting can be appreciated. I'm using Shami-Choro for 16% more duration + good skills and still find the duration cutting too close for comfort. Inari Writing Set/Extended Elemental Weapon on Inari Yasakani/EEW on Seals would help, sadly I'm broke bitch (also can do it for the weapon but need the status accumulation for the tengen setup).
>>558413498high fashion
>>558413498im a slave to the shinsengumi fit
>>558383071odachi :)
ay yo fuck the spirit tree shrine i dont think i fell to death any other time in the game now ive done it like ten thousand
>>558413498
even 170 +15 splitstaff this shit is still incredible amounts of assI don't think they can salvage this weapon bros
>THE tokugawa game>he doesn't show up as an enemy
>Doing swallowtail testingI think I found out the plot for the next DLC. You see it'll involve yours truly utilizing the Death Veil for the sole purpose of shoving Kappas up the asses of every ancestor of every bloodline involved in the mockery of a set bonus here.What do you mean that different increased luck boosts amount to differing amount of luck/boosted damage? What do you mean none of these are represented in the status menu when they're active? What do you mean that Ebisu's set bonus, the fucking five piece of investment, is a CHANCE to activate on kill and has the duration of a piss break? Wait, we made the luck = damage set bonus on Samurai but placed the 100 luck (Crucible) 3 pc bonus AND a 60 luck guardian spirit behind Ninja? And the former couldn't apply to both forms?>Summary of my mental breakdownEbisu's luck is greater than the luck on amrita absorption you get on gloves, but as mentioned, is only a CHANCE to activate on killing an enemy.Luckbringer Talisman is salvation as it's the biggest boost to luck you can get in this category, though it means you only really need the 3pc bonus on Ebisu and then can have another 3pc grace bonus unless you value the 4% damage reduction that much (fair if you do).
>>558418019What is the benefit of luck? I just made my last +15 weapon, so I've got sam2kat/spear and nin1kat/toonf.As a side note I actually like having 4 weapons. In Nioh 1 and 2 I barely used my second weapon (1kat or claws) but now I use spear/toonf for killing small enemies and sam2kat/nin1kat for anything big.
>>558414058Yeah the shadowclad is short, didnt think about getting EEW though! Thanks
>>558419137Luck's supposed to help with finding rarer items, I'm trying to prepare a sam luck build to have fun with Swallowtail (worse than going ninja onmyo spam since the target is mobbing but figured this one could've been more chill touching sam 3kat) and find Yasakani Magatamas (missing 2).
>>558419574>>558414058Oh i cant temper accessories like in nioh 2 well guess im fucked
>>558392009prove it
>>558393795I found some success running left and jumping at the last moment
>>558417808wrong tokugawa anon.either Hell rising is our actual JIGOKU expansion that gives it or nothingIemitsu (you) are the one who kills christcucks and closes Japaan to everyone BUT the dutch
>>558397379in 2 separate quests even
>>558413498i am a simple tatenashi man actually lilac which is just a recolored tatenashi
scaling to 250 sort of sucks if you havent done much with your equipment
he dont need no stinking gear bonuses
>doing the intro section again>so many red graves you cant see the ground>all jailer onicome on, a single jailer oni at this point in the game?
>>558426251I think it's from people running back to Kunnymatsu after dying. I wouldn't know about that, because I 1-shot him on NG+
can you level sync the open world or is it battle scrolls only?
>170 everything except accessories which are 164 and ranged wep and chest which is 169>170 ranged wep and chest refuses to dropam i supposed to just mindlessly farm until i get the lucky RNG drop that "unlocks" regular drops for those slots?the system feels so random, like i'll consistently get +1 ilvl upgrades for a while, then it's a massive break before the next tier starts dropping
I seriously xant stop laughinh
>>558430913>found an abandoned girl and made her his daughterMaybe he's not that bad?
>>558429874Bratz doll kinda shit
>>558417504the monk fit is so stylish until you turn the camera around and the ugly sleeves flop around everywhere.
the next patch will have some balancing and performance fixing r-right...?
I would like to thank Ongbal for showing me this combo. It's so stylish.
>>558432858Do it again with the HUD off.
Better Team Ninja trilogy than Ninja Gaiden, but that's not controversial I bet.
>>558433829NG was very niche
>>558432858Turn off your tutorial prompts.
>>558402690auto sell yellow and belowextract all +sdismantle everything that gives crafting mats (tiny hammer overlapping the perk or just scroll through in dismantle menu)sell everything else
>>558432858hey anonuse your living artifact
>>558429874
>>558436712
>>558432858I'd rather thank the anons who showed it way before any youtuber.
Spear damage feels pretty bad compared to 1kat or even 2kat, every move is lackluster in comparison.
I'm going to become blind over time autistically squinting over every single item with a tiny dismantle essence icon
>>558434231>>558435771I like them. What if I forget to use Living Artifact?
>>558438689don't do that. go into the dissasemble screen and hold down and then stop when you see an extra line in the box on the right
>>558439345Undrstandable. I used that shit maybe twice lol
>>558439345you might have brain problems
https://teamninja-studio.com/nioh3/us/update/ new patch
>>558441383>gotta verify age to view patch notesthey better be spicy
>>558441383>Made it possible to set equipment from different Styles in Equipment Appearance.wasn't so hard, was it? retards.
>ctrl+f>odachi>0Yeah, and they instantly fix the soul matching cost bug with ground pickups, but fixing actual gameplay issues is outside of their scope. Doesn't look like they fixed deflect for 2kat and cestus either.
>>558441383oh shit shinsengumi nerf
>Nioh 1 and 2>Everybody is either full samurai or ninjutsu>Nioh 3>Every single time I co-op people are just spamming the three highest onmyo spells until the boss is deadIt's sad, I miss when being an onmyoji was weaker than normal fighting so people didn't use it. Bosses are way too weak to the tornado and shit.
>>558442365>Increased the effects of the Shinsengumi Crest Protection "A Warrior's Honor.">Decreased the increase to damage dealt by melee damage with the Shinsengumi Crest Protection "A Warrior's Honor."what the fuck is going on here, is it an increase or a decrease?!
If I have a bonus to "Melee Ki Damage" does that also affect "Martial Arts Ki Damage"?Or is Martial Arts considered separate from Melee (basic attacks)?
>>558442292I might be doing more damage from my experience with odachi atm, just not with any of the moonlit snow stuff, but still with everything else
>>558442729Melee affixes encompass every type of melee damage type, it's the best one aside from melee (critical) because the stat is equal to the martial arts bonus.
>i was expecting Nioh 3 to be GOTY like N2 was>i already discarded it and moved on to another game after completing ngI can't even force myself through ng+, I'm just bored to tears...is it over for me?
>>558442584probably increased the back damage you take
>>558443083Just come back after the dlcs then. Nioh 2 was also different at launch.That said i do have gripes i hope will be fixed. I think the ng+ was handled poorly, having to follow the main quest sucks and having to unlock the battle scrolls again sucks even more!
>>558441383Where is the performance fix?Where is the performance fix Team Ninja you hacks
>todo still brokenphew bullet dodgedthe nerf took off about 1k hp but doesn't matter when your still pushing 4k HP at high rank.
>>558433829That would have been a given but I didn't expect 3 to be this disappointing to me. If you ignore 3RE and include 4 then I still think NG is the better series for me.
>>558441383>Partially resolved an issue that sometimes caused the game to crash while the player was playing.woah
>>558443083I just recognize that this is a beta test and will come back later.I'm in the middle of heian and I'm glad I didn't rush through a broken piss easy game. The timed exclusivity of the previous games really were a blessing.
>>558443083Nioh 2 was exactly like this on release
Spear and Odachi buffs? Buffs for half of the Ninja weapons? 1Kat and Tonfa nerfs? Meaningful changes to clans? Game breaking Onmyo and Ninjutsu nerfs? Performance? T-thanks for the patch TN.
>>558446552I;ve been doiing some testing with my damage with odachi and some moves have seen some minor buffs, just dont be a retard and spam moonlitshiit
Where's the best place to farm 170 gear? It feels like everyone just drops stuff below 160
>>558446552>Tonfa nerfsIt's the best Ninja weapon because it's the only one worth using for anything other than ninjutsu gauge filling. Please don't nerf it.
>Increased the effects of Frost Moon Damage as a set bonus.Hmm? I'm looking at my general of ruin set bonus and it went from 49% to 7,9%
should I finish all battle scrolls before going to ng+?
>>558441383>Added an Acolyte (Benevolent Grave) who can be called upon without using Ochoko Cups in the mission Escape from Hitokoto Slope.what is this pussy shit>Fixed an issue that sometimes caused Flux to be triggered instead when trying to perform the Martial Arts Spear Flourish and Rainbow Ruse with the Samurai weapon the spear.spearbros are you back or what
>>558446447truthnuke.
>>558448129red odachi man is filtering people
>>558447661enjoy your buff baka gaijin!
>>558447661there was a note later on that said they also corrected a display error where frost moon buffs said they were way stronger than they actually were
>>558441383Please please someone tell me they didn't fix Todo. I need it to survive NG+
>>558445439why would you cheat in a game that's already piss-easy?
>>558448726>MY BUGGED CRUTCH bro just turn on the invincibility hack already,
>>558448928>pcgaymenNo thanks
>>558448726
>>558441383>Made it possible to set equipment from different Styles in Equipment AppearanceNeat, that should make a few anons stop whining
>>558448726pussy
>>558449254i think it was unironically just something they forgot to do since it was a flag in the ini
>>558449417I just need them to fix some of the emotes missing objects now, like the tea cup.
>can finally wear lone wolf setfinally something nice
The benevolent grave they added is confirmed to be Hide, though it looks to be the default onehttps://x.com/nioh_game/status/2026285514605887911
>>558449194NONONONONOOOOOOO
>>558450054>tonfa/bow/nekomataninjutsu builders rise up
>>558450054>they needed to add crutch to tutorial mission.Open world was a mistake.
>>558450386open world is whatever, it's the difficulty that's fucked. the 1st mission boss is way way way harder than anything in the 1st region until the crucible boss
>>558450386People were getting filtered by Masakage HARD.
IT'S TRUE NOOOOOOOO PLEASE WHY THIS IS THE FIRST NIOH WHERE I CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING IN NEW GAME PLUS OMG WHY
>>558450442It's basically the "lol you died" hard first boss of soulslike game except it actually locks you out of the rest of the game if you can't beat it.
>>558450054>hide has a grave there when he was dicking around with monkeyman in early Sengoku
>>558450682yeah which is obviously why they are remedying it
>all these bug fixesMeanwhile, I still cant flux 2 on rising gale and winter wind.FIX THIS SHIT ALREADY
>>558450826It's a blue one, so clearly he just plopped one down for a laugh
>>558448018irrelevant since you can go back and forth whenever you want
>make a single actor be the face for some bitch whos fucked very pivotal historical figures
>>558450472But I thought the game was easy?
>>558453085Everyone who isn't anon(whatever anon who's currently posting) is a shitter, you see.
>>558453085he's the hardest boss in the first 15 hours
>>558453085I wouldn't say it's easy but the very first boss was hardest for me by far because you didn't even have stances.
>>558453085For new or rusty players maybe. If you're already good at Nioh 1 or 2, then you're not going to have that hard of a time with 3.
>>558453294yeah bro i was fuckin dyin without stances
>>558453085He’s spongy, does high damage and punishes you for being unfamiliar with the controls and adjusting to them despite him being the first fucking boss. He’s not bad but he’s harder than anything else in warring states which is definitely indicative the early game difficulty is way off.
>>558441383>no longer need the transmog modsasuga
>>558454831so where the hell is the iburaki cosmetic that totally wont censor the body type 2 with boob bandages that removes the under boob?
>all those fixesGoddamn, this really is the beta test period. Glad I'm waiting for the complete edition to buy.
>>558453864yeah I died to him a few times. It reminded me of the early struggles vs first bosses in Nioh 1/2.Then after beating him I never twice to same thing again until 4 Heavenly Kings. It’s a bizzare difficulty choice, if rest of game was also hard it’d make sense, but it feels like they made rest of game very easy with a gradual difficulty curve, but first boss is just using balance from a much harder game that doesn’t actually exist.In my opinion the first boss should be easy, so people have fun early on, and also get to access all the mechanics, then make later stuff hard to test understanding of the mechanics. But here it’s a steep initial challenge, then afterwards you get acsess to tons of new stuff, and you arnt really tested for hours and hours.
>>558455019that's a custom outfit made for a custom body, i doubt it's easy to convert that to player characters, modders are barely able to modify outfits as it is as far as i can tell
>>558453864That's normal even for past Nioh games. I struggled to hell and back on Onryoki, Hino-Enma and Nue in Nioh 1, and Yatsu-no-Kami in Nioh 2. I did struggle with Masakage a bit until I started using Ninja mode, and haven't had much trouble with any other boss through Nioh 3 except for Hiruko, who I died to 18 times.
>>558453294I had to switch to ninja because of that
>Fixed an issue preventing the use of a Burst Break while Dodging with a sword, a switchglaive, cestuses, or a ninja sword if the controller type was set to B, E, or F.this would explain a lot
>>558455564Ok please how explain Derrick the executioner and heck even Gozuki are in the same plain of difficulty as Red odachi man of doom. Those were tutorial bosses too and they’re significantly easier. Nioh 1 had dodgy balance too but Nioh 2 had a good curve with Enera and Yatsu being a wake up call. Yamagata Masakage is a massive kick in the balls and a wake up call that craters into the easiest area in all of Nioh.
>>558456237Gozuki in Tokaido, which technically is 2nd zone on first map is harder than the red guy in tutorial, and you have access to stances and some basic moves by then.
I went full magic using the splitstaff and odachi but desu the weapons do the job well enough without having to really get into spellcasting. Has anyone else dabbled in magic and found anything enjoyable about it?
>>558450826You can literally use jaspers to drop your own benevolent graves in 2. He just dealt with Azai Nagamasa by that point and was just helping others i guess.Super soulful.
>>558441383the fire calamity fix allows me to play my monk ninja with 3 "ethical" calamities nice changes, good fixeshopefully in a patch or two they can start balancing
>>558456838He’s optional and honestly only difficult if you don’t have experience with Gozuki in the first place. It’s also fairly likely you can miss him and fight him while considerably over levelled. Meanwhile Yamagata Masakage is a static challenge that determines if you’re tall enough to take the Nioh 3 ride. Didn’t this tutorial boss difficulty spike happen in Wo Long too come to think of it? I didn’t play that game. Something like this shouldn’t happen twice
>>558457526>Didn’t this tutorial boss difficulty spike happen in Wo Long too come to think of it?Yep, exact same issue. Ridiculously tanky boss who could twoshot you
>>558435771There's special effects that give you bonuses for keeping it filled.
>>558457837Let me guess the game was easier after the boss too right?
>>558456991I play a ki damage build and bluster (wind) enhances ki damage so I use the weapon enchant talisman and the tornado. Yamabiko soul core also deletes a lot of purple ki (but does zero damage). The other 2 spells I take are the Blessed Bolt Talisman, because I take the skill that let's you use onmyo while moving and this allows you to halt enemies who are following you when you need to make space to buff/heal if you don't have any throwable ninjutsu available. It's also ez-mode for insta-killing humans in the open fields. And finally life Leech talisman because then you never need to touch your elixirs. I combine it with a Kasha Soul core sometimes but realistically a thundering calamity will fully heal you. I tried some co-op today after finishing all the NG+ battle scrolls and I see most people take all the Hell spells and just spam them.
>>558457837That's true, but he did teach you how to play, especially how to use block. Usually if someone is crying about a TN game they don't remember you can block.
After playing most of the zones on first map, up until afterimage boss on top right, I still can't say whether I like or not the weapon. After playing Cestus on the first entire game run it feels really whatever compared to just punching the dudes. And Cestus played much much smoother too. Honestly Spear feels worse than even Nin1kat which was basically doing one thing on repeat that is, dashing behind enemy and doing it's one combo of square into triangle. Spear just feels empty in comparison.
oh, rght. infernal calamity still doesnt build burning ailment for shit
>>558458586I meant that I played spear for the most zones on the first map...
>>558458063you missed the joke anon...after the other guy got it........
>Fixed an issue that added to the count of the play record "Times defeated by {}" for each yokai summoned by Kajiwara Kagetoki.lol dumb japs
>>558458586Spear is really fun when fighting small yokai and humans. Body swap into piercing rain is great.Nin1kat is something I only use on big enemies because the aerial attacks multi-hit on big models.Tonfa is the most braindead because of demon dance into pulverize spam wasn't simple enough, the hold Y master skill turns it into a one-button weapon. Just throw some ninjutsu to help get your spacing right and then kill everything in 1 hit, if it's a human boss you'll break their ki in 1 hit, lol
>>558459114over 1k ki damage for fully charged focused strike heavy, so insane
>>558441383>>558441881>>558449254Is making both types of 1kat and 2kat share transmogs too much to ask for? I just want to use demon cutter or kashu kiyomitsu on my ninj.
I died more to that Isami guy you fight before Onmoraki than I did to Okita Soji.
>>558460232literally who
>>558459114It's not like spear is "bad". I just feel nothing while playing it, like it has no impact on anything, none of the moves are particularly exciting either. It just doesn't click with me.
>>558458234Maybe some early bosses are easier but the cow monster and Lu Bu were harder than the tutorial guy and they are fairly early.
>>558460232those 2 revenants in the graveyard are overtuned as hellliterally harder than the boss
>>558458886>you missed the joke anonGuess it wasn't funny then.>...after the other guy got it........Literally no one replied to you ironically. Just take the tip and get over yourself, faggot.
>>558461938be a retard then double downclassic
>>558461995>helpful people with taste are all retardedClassic indeed.
>>558441383owari da...I didn't even know you could drop soul cores to do this with
Itsumade summon sucks ass :(
how the hell do you gain meter against human bosses
>>558463557switch to ninja
>>558463739What Ninja weapon(apart from tonfa) can pressure humans well?
>>558463282a lot of the summons seem to be nerfed compared to nioh 2
>>558463868nonethat anon is a moron
Oh come on. First they make my favorite top in the series ninja only. Then they forget to make arm guards and fists go into sleeve mode with it, so almost everything you can wear on your arms clips through its sleeves like crazy.Now that I can finally wear this shit on my sam, the shoulders clip. And armware still doesn't minimalize when worn under it. Nice.
>>558463868tonfathe skill that boosts meter gain after you style shift is very, very good
>>558463868Any weapon can but hatchets can allow for nonstop aggression and pressure.
>>558414459she fucks gakis
>>558465535she fucks them up
>>558414459>>558465535nah she's a Mezuki and Gozuki at the same time kinda girl
>>558461236Which samurai weapons do you use? I prefer 2kat to 1kat, and I don't know what I would take if not spear.
>>558466058I played 1st map with 2Kat, and after that Cestus until the end. Nin1kat from start to finish for Ninja one. And now I started new run with new setup, and I've basically only used spear so far and was at the shrine before afterimage boss when I finished playing earlier.
How am I supposed to play KUSOrigama? It's pretty bad from the front, getting behind is hard compared to every other weapon too.
I thought I was going to farm for divine sets but I only now realize how shit this is with the split gear.
Masakage is just a check to see if you pay attention to the enemy's ki bar. He eats all of his own ki in like two attacks and then immediately gets winded the moment you counter attack on any of his very easy to punish openings. How do people find this guy hard? All of his attacks are really easy to avoid too.
>went from 8.5k to 5.5k hp after todo nerfWelp, it was fun while it lasted. Cya.
>>558467017git gud
>>558465616There's going to be a certain air around the ferryman's top if you play online and see somebody in it. Good chance they're a modded whore (positive).
>>558467337i love the ferryman edit, but we need more slutmogs, variety is the spice of life
>>558467337Is it even possible to have your fashion gear appear on your character online? As far as my interactions with Mujinas are concerned, they always reflect the gear I'm actually using.
>>558466539dodge through the enemies
>>558467478The big issue currently is that the fishnet shinobi top edit clips with the body edit. Maybe if she was flatter it would fit but I'll just wait for it to get updated for a fit to the body edit.
Hopes for the first DLC? Do you guys want the map to be more like Warring/Heian/Bakamatsu layout?
>>558467337>>558467478the top for the set you get from Hiruko goes really well with nude mods
>>558468545Warring was the worst. I'm all for connected corridors if they want to do that style instead of missions.
>>558468545There weren't many wars during the Edo period, so I'm hoping it doesn't look too ruined even if we have to deal with the Crucibles.
Why does Kusarigama have like 3 different parries on just L1, but every Samurai weapon has deflect on it, without the option to work as a parry against humans(u need directional input), but then odachi replaces deflect with it's shitty parry against everything. I just dont understand it, it's like 10 different people developed every weapon independently, and didn't even figure out coherent inputs between them.
>>558470262probably unironically what happened
>>558470757It gets weirder when you realize u need to waste input like L1+triangle for parry on nin1kat, but it does not deflect, so deflect timing could have been used. Then again having 3 skills on ninja weapon not named hatchets at once might have been to much.
>>558468545something that's not mostly ruins and brown
>>558471147>brownblack and red*
Bro this boss filters me so fucking hard
>>558471684Back up, buff your weapon, plan to use a martial art as he comes into range. Try jumping. Have a plan for how you will punish him.
>>558468545The ability to drop enhanced shrapnel bomb from the air even if it's only right below me. Less jailer onis. No more jailer onis. Absolutely zero jailer onis. Shimbara Rebellion with an outright Christian Guardian Spirit.
>>558471684i dont know this feel
>>558471684have you tried not getting hit?
>>558472889If a boss only does one attack, you never beat it
>>558472889damn, I didn't know 2kat could melt ki like that
>>558473139i beat it on ng+ later
> ps5 version is still letting me play online despite not downloading updateI thought maybe PC just got update earlier, but people on reddit are saying Ps5 has it. I’ve never seen a game that doesn’t immediately boot you offline the instant a patch is released.I really don’t wanna update until I get my glitched +15, the nerfs to Todo and damage reduction while attacking are fine, I wasn’t even using them. But I really don’t want to be stuck with an insane grind to upgrade weapons. When do +1 gear start becoming common? And when are you allowed to upgrade to +15? I’m only early into Bakamatsu, but I’ve gotten enough +1’s to make a +4 so far (using the glitch).
>literally the first thing on the new patch notes is telling people that you can now freely refashion Samurai armor onto Ninja armor and vice versaI would have actually been surprised if it took them any longer to fix this considering how much people have been complaining about this across multiple websites since launch.Anyway, I'm glad to see the weekly rate in which these patches come out. Each patch has generally been good and substantive in their changes and fixes, though as people have pointed out, there are still tons of bugs, like Benzaiten and Hotei's set bonuses still not working properly.Sadly though, performance is still ass and remains unaddressed. And likely will always be ass because >lol>Katana Engine>lmaoI really hope Team Ninja making NG2B on Unreal Engine is a sign that they're training their employees to transition away from Katana Engine and to Unreal Engine, because as flawed as Unreal Engine is, it's still better than Katana Engine.
>>558473730the truth is it's not a mega grind once the dlcs are out. you can simply just wait and equip whatever drops
>>558473730>insane grind to upgrade weapons.it will all become pointless with the dlc
I'm missing 1 Kodama and some shrines, nothing on the map. How the fuck do I find these?
>>558474024I hope you kill yourself for even suggesting Unreal Engine
>>558474275can't get the area to level 4? need to do side missions there
>>558474448Every area in the game is at level 4.
>todo nerfed>damage while attacking nerfed>still don't care because my caestus fucking wreck everythinggrug smash
>>558474846probably in a crucible then
sucks how badly they ruined spear its the only weapon i like
>>558474275there are some unmarked ones i forget saw it in yt comments on a kodama video
>>558474907The nerfs are reasonable. From what I recall, you could get close to 100% damage reduction in total before the patch, but with the nerf you now go down to about 70%. It's still very strong, the only difference is that it's no longer stupid.
>>558474089>>558474147I don’t want 8 months to get a +15 weapon.Yes I know it’ll be easy to get materials when NG++ drops, but that’s 8 fucking months away.
>>558475151Yea I saw the numbers. I had like 4.8k HP and 50% dmg reduced while attacking and I'm still only on the 2nd area of the game so it was inevitable.
Does anyone have any numbers what fixed Todo is like?Pre fix it just straight up doubled all hp gained from all stats. Now it only affects Stamina like it’s supposed to, but it also improves with Clan Rank (which it didn’t before).I’m assuming at base it doubles the hp gains from Stamina, but no other stat. But what about max rank? Other clan bonuses seem to get a 30-70% improvement going from starting rank to max rank. How tanky can 99 stamina Todo be at max rank?
what's the droprate of the star weapons in ng+? I don't think I've seen any.
>>5584760540%It’s a bug they havnt fixed yet.
>>558476267well fuck
>nerfs to the obvious overpowered shit comes>NYOOOO HOW DARE YOU IT'S MY GAME MY RULESBonus points if this is the same people who cried that the game is too easy a few weeks ago
>>558467017Is that still not absurd?
really not that bad of a nerf desu my shit wasn't even optimized
>>558475368probably more like 4
>>558476737thislmao
>>558477000I've seen people with 80 after the nerf, both this and todo did nothing. You are still essentially unkillable
Ain't crimson general with Ii bonus is really fucking good for an all-rounder zero fucks given defensive build with some ki damage boosts on top?A agility A toughness is very hard to beat for any other sets.
>>558385262I am old, I prefer reading books now instead of "mastering" fights in computer games by dying ad infinitum in saecula saeculorum. Co-op is the answer.
>>558477000I just unga'd another Bloodedge Demon. The nerf isn't that big of a deal.
Modding scene is starting to look very good lads
>>558478523>m*dding """scene""">its just garbage goon shitlollmao
>>558478665>mod manager and now a loose file loaderoutfit mods soon
pretty funny to make the PC a CaC again but this time based on a completely real historical figure
>>558478976you guys say this about every game but nothing ever comes out of it
how do I oneshotmaxx?shingesumi clan, no armor, skill that gives you damage without armor? Like, what's the most braindead broken build?just finished the game with full kintaro set and it was piss easy, but I want more, interested in caestus as well
>>558474024>because as flawed as Unreal Engine is, it's still better than Katana Engine.I actually really, really fucking strongly disagree. UE5 is literally unfixable in many cases no matter what you do or how strong your pc is due to awful stutter and framepacing and animation error issues that will never be fixed, meanwhile Nioh 3 runs perfectly for me you just need strong hardware, you can't fix UE5 in the same way.
2kat and cestus having only 8 deflect frames wasn't a bug, was it?
>>558479429I don't think they fixed the onmyo being effected by fist attack power yet, so try that.
>>558476737>nerfs to the obvious overpowered shit comesIt's not nerfed enough
>>558388197Pretty sure its once per day.
>>558441383>Increased the effects of the Shinsengumi Crest Protection "A Warrior's Honor.">Decreased the increase to damage dealt by melee damage with the Shinsengumi Crest Protection "A Warrior's Honor."So they just increased the damage you take lol>Nothing about Todo until bug fixes:>Fixed an issue preventing the effects of the Todo Crest Protection "Life Bonus (Stamina)" from increasing according to Position.So it's only going to get more absurd? lmao what the fuck am I doing in Kakizaki.
>>558478523>no hard mode modMeh
>>558479619qrd?
thinking about reinstalling wolong lads
>>558479616Nah it's a bug and we're beta testing for free.
>>558478523Find God now. Modding is not good for your soul. You know this
>>558479616To be fair those weapons are already insanely powerful.
>>558479854Stack barehanded damage because for some reason it boosts the fuck out of ninjutsu and onmyo. Carnage and fist talismans also help. For onmyo stack as much unused onmyo as you can with ho-oh. For ninjutsu use calamities with Kurama Tengu for bonus to elemental damage. You will play ninja because it gives the best bonuses to elemental damage in its skill book.
>>558463282I still like him. Very situational and you gotta make sure not to pulse away any of his pools. I usually do that by staying in ninja. Hard to make good use of but does deliver satisfying moments occasionally
>>558480240>splitstaff secondarymy condolences
>>558480059Still a brick though
>>558480225>ninja>magicstopped reading
>>558408501can remodel weapons with + levels
>>558480384Then don't ask for oneshotmaxxing next time faggot
>>558480059>caestus>powerful
>>558480384Aris? You post on a Bhutanese Competitive Dog Grooming Forum?
>>558480668yes?
>>558480032lolwut? not all mods are porn
>>558480743every weapon mogs fists, absolutely weak in this game
>>558480964but enough about odachi
I don't really agree with the difficulty topic anymore.The first playthrough is definitely too easy for the majority of the playthrough, but NG+ is very good and feels inline with how Nioh's difficulty should be.The first playthrough should've been balanced like NG+.
>>558480964Pretty sure anything can be used to break the game? It is what Nioh does
>>558480964fists with barehanded buff deal x3-x5 damage of axe, so there's literally no weapon stronger than fists, retard
>>558480668Skilless shitter or an absolute retard?Pick.
I got to Hiruko 1 on NG+.Spirit Tree Shrine is a great level.Fuck man it is downright criminal that the Yamatai is just two levels and the battle theme only plays in the first level of Yamatai. The Yamatai battle theme is so fucking good.I really hope there's some time travel back to Yamatai in one of the DLCs, it's too good.https://youtu.be/MbOkWZ5-1-U?list=PLgtmzSrSbkzc1bfoCSC7qJxLDBcA-D1cP&t=127
does NG+ give higher chance for smithing texts to drop?
>>558383071Not counting 1kat,>Samurai StyleMaybe Spear. Odachi is very fun as well, Cestus is insanely fun and Axe is super fun as well, but I like the concept and visuals of the Spear.Very solid weapon.It has an amazing low stance Frost Moon attack.All the Samurai weapons feel great to use to be honest. I have used Switchglaive the least so far, but I'll get around to it soon. I'm maxing out titles.>NinjaDefinitely Hatchets.The transformed version of Fire Foot Drill is amazing and really makes the weapon and justifies the Ninja style version of Hatchets, it's the most fun aerial move in the game for me.I think the Ninja weapons that won and feel the most fun are weapons that also have fun and interesting moves to use in the air, while those who lost are weapons whose identity and design doesn't really align with the design of Ninja style and/or do not get any particularly fun or interesting moves in the air.
>>558383062I feel like they will lock most of it to Ninja style though.I hope not, but it just makes sense that they'd do that and it would be the easy thing to do.The only thing that really would go against it is how the Ninja Sword is held in a reverse grip which is not how Ryu uses the Dragon Sword.
>>558480323I love splitstaff's martial arts, too bad I can only use like 20 fucking percent of them
>New Ninja weaponWires>New Samurai weaponGunKat
>>558482316
Let's get down to business to defeat the yokai
>ki pulse/r1 doesn't work half the time>figure out its my controller>test it online and in other games>works perfectlykek what a dogshit chink game
>>558385658Just wait until you get Hellshock
>>558482552works for me ;^>
Wo Long looks pretty fun when people post videos of it to be honest, I think I'll pick up waiting for 3's DLC.
>Ninger skill points>135>Enough to unlock a skill on every slot (including pure versality fodder) on all weapons + ninjitsu>Samurai skill points>140>barely enough to unlock bare minimum functionality on all weapons
>>558402085Body Swap is awesome.
I need the best caestus with best statsI have one that applies lightning, should I go with that?Also no armor (no armor buff) or some caestus buffing armor?
>>558482040Yeah, Firefoot Jump is a lot of fun. I like to combo it into a GS tengu feather barrage and then Plummet with some normal attacks often mixed in there.
>>558482568non-ninja magic is for gays
>>558413498I make some appropriate for each era.
>>558402085Spear shove is honestly your best bet. I don't like body swap personally because it kind of awkwardly breaks the flow. Pole kick is too slow and leaves enough of a gap for the godlike AI to drop block and just take the pitiful damage to the face. If piercing rain wasn't a followup and a standalone art, spear would fucking massacre humans
>>558430913We need Shuten to return in the DLC for a Shuten + Ibaraki double boss fight
Can you set Ninja 1kat apperances for Samurai 1kat?
>>558481228>fists with barehandedYou mean unarmed right? Or are you telling me that those passives for unarmed applies to ceastus and talons????
>>558476889It's still very high.I only got like 3k.
>Fixed TodoB-B-BASED
We need the Ninja Style spear.It's so weird they didn't make a Ninja style spear when it would fit Ninja style so well unlike Splitstaff and literally has one of the Ninja characters in the game using a Spear.
>>558482774>muddy graphics>piss poor animation>unresponsive combat>Temu Nioh systems>plot even more retarded than Nioh>absolutely cringe voice acting
>>558483747yes and its broken, basic fist attack does 4-5k damage with that buff
>>558482040What skills do you run on hatchets anon, I think I can see death from above.
Holy hell this final boss has my heart pounding
>>558482040>rating attacks based on their animations while having damage numbers turned off
>>558484221This changes everythang
>>558483720you can with that transmod mod
I'm missing 2 shrines and I have 0 clue where they're at.
>>558484483??game turns to tutorial once you hit lvl 80, I haven't died once since
>>558482774I picked up rise of the ronin and love it.I feel bad for people who played it before nioh 3 it really does show how badly they downgraded outfits & character creation in comparison.Also would have loved the npc interaction system from rise to be in nioh 3.
1st playthrough donetime to see what Ninja has to offer now
>>558485814They downgraded character creation significantly from Nioh 2 to RotR, and then even further from RotR to Nioh 3.
>>558486045eh I like rotr better than nioh 2 outfit and body wise.nioh 3 has the best hair bangs because it added new onesnioh 2 has the best faces because they're stylized and less "realism" focused.
>>558485392I mean, it wasn't the hardest boss ever but it was a great fight and the main theme kicking in was kino.
>>558486423>insane Death Veil gauntlet, both aesthetically and mechanically>sick ass Hiruko fight with the main theme blazing when he starts using lighting elementYeah it was amazingEmotionally 2's finale is still better, but as a spectacle 3 is by far the best.
>>558486423>it was a great fightif your boss fights last longer than 20 seconds and takes more than 30% of your hp, you don't know how to play the game
>>558486636t. todo/shinsengumi tonfa fag
>>558485814Same. Should have tried it earlier. I'm still not fan of the open world stuff but the combat is fun and it has a ton of charm too. All these wacky enemies and weapons you can use like the flamethrower. Laughed my ass off when I got killed suddenly by a massive boar.
>search for Heir's A Sinister End expeditions>0 hits>search for any expedition on Shogun>0 hitsDamn...At least I can finally have Okatsu at home.Game's still got bugs though.
>>558486735>tonfaI said 20 seconds not 30 mins of plinking for 50 damage
>mfw I just finished the Death Veil fight for the first timeI was slightly disappointed that we didn't get an actual boss but rather just got a bunch of smaller consecutive crucible spikes, but goddamn did it feel hype as fuck, especially when Yoshitsune, Shinsaku and Tokugawa all helped with their guardian spirits and inspiring dialogue all pushing me forward. It also made me relieved that Team Ninja has the good sense to actually put checkpoints in between each crucible spike, instead of forcing players to redo everything from scratch. I breathed the same sigh of relief when I played Nioh 1 for the first time many years ago and died to Yamata No Orochi. I felt demoralized at first because I thought that the game would force me to refight Kelley every single time I died to Yamata No Orochi, but it didn't. I went back in the room and the game immediately put me in the Orochi fight.
>>558486787Really surprised they didn't use some of the new enemies from it in nioh 3 like the giant guys with clubs.
>Inari somehow dodges a nerfBut they can kill todo because it was broken
>>558487390>kill todolmao
>>558383071Spear. It may have only gotten a grand total of one (1) new move in Nioh 3, but it's still the best Spear moveset in all of videogames. The input and stance changes they made to the weapon's older moves (like Rainbow Ruse now being available in mid stance, and Fatal Thrust and Wild Spear being square and triangle holds respectively instead of the retarded block+X that made for accidental inputs when dodging) generally leaned towards making the weapon even better. For some reason, Team Ninja and its sibling company Omega Force seem to be the only companies that care about making spears interesting and fun.
>>558485814I unironically even liked the open world stuff in RotR
>can finally use Ninja gear apperance on Samurai style and vice versaFinally, I can use Hir->can't use Hiruko's Sword on Samurai 1katI'm about to lose my fucking shit, TEAM NINJA WHAT THE FUAAAAARKKKKKK>>558484628I play on Goyimstation 5
Weren't we able to cancel out of every animation with burst counters and yokai transformation in N2? This system feels clunky and I'm not sure if it's me or if it did change from 2nd game.
>>558486984>Game's still got bugs thoughThat's an understatement, sir...phewww
>>558487819you still can??
>>558487881Then use a Demon Undercut and press shift to Samurai and tell me more about your cancel. And there are many burst attacks that are faster than demon undercut animation is,
>>558487807Samurai losing access to Raikiri is a crime
Is RotR combat good? Is it a fun game despite being open world?
>>558487819Do you have Style Shift Flow and The More The Merrier equipped?
>>558484537Fun > Numbers>>558484458For the axe throws, just whatever you prefer. I like the default single handed throw though.I use Greased Lightning over Boulder Breaker because the flash attack with hatchets is basically just Boulder Breaker. Greased Lightning (Lightning) is also very powerful.Fire Foot Drill Jump of courseI use the Crucible Light Heavy finisher, Mountain HawkI use the Heavy Light finisher that makes you jump up because you can go into Fire Foot Drill. It's not that necessary though. Demon Undercut feels too slow for me.I use Spinning Crab or Dual Hawks on forward heavy
These boss tracks are so simple (they're basically designed like standard verse-chorus pop songs) and yet so catchy and moving.Something about that transition to the second chorus at 01:58 just gives me goosebumps every single time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTMf0INZEg
>>558488574If you like parrying, yeah
>>558488667No, but why would summoning help with canceling attacks to shift? And I don't think I had them equipped in Nioh 2.>here use half of your points in our new skill system to not make the game feel clunky
>>558488996I can't remember any of the tracks in this game. Tbf I can't remember any from 2 except for Yatsu no kami because of that EEEEEEEHHH EEEEEEEEHHH. Might be an audio mixing issue.
>parrying>in ROTRlolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KItZ3dwa3oM
>>558488574I liked the game enough to finish it but it's rather mediocre parryslop with inconsistent parry timing windows all over the place.
>can't actually paint your body blackgay
why is there no info on what passive skills are the best?
>>558489292damn you can be bomberman in rotr?
>>558489863because nothing is truly "the best" it really depends on your play style and which weapons you enjoy using, use your brain and read the skills and decide which works best for (You).nice thing about nioh is everything literally works there's no wrong choice and even more so with nioh 3 due to the fact you can make any weapon work with any stat combination now.
>>558488574The central parry mechanic being also your heavy attack simply does not work well. Coupled with highly inconsistent performance and inputs like Nioh 3 and it's woeful in practice.
>>558490851>and read the skillsthis doesn't help for most because they don't say how much
>>558491103Some of the bad offenders do make themselves known in the status screen, the mysteries of the onymo skills for example are 20% untouched onmyo for their type.Does anyone know the before/after for the clans? Currently busy so I can't check bonuses (and also didn't affiliate with many of the clans hit) but I am curious on the state of the bonuses for Kato/Kajiwara/Shinsengumi/Shibata.
>>558488574I think it's really fun
>>558490851Alright, that's it, I'm going to do a new playthrough using KUSOrigama/splitstaff and odachi/spear while levelling nothing but heart
>>558489550>inconsistent parry timing windows all over the place.Different styles in different weapons have different parry windows in that game. It's no different than how something like Dual Katanas in Nioh have different timings for its parries (The Shrike, Earthly Flow, etc. all have different timings).As for>but it's rather mediocre That's just, like, your opinion, man!>>558490693You can also play it like a Nioh kunai spammer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Yb162FAcwOr a third person shooter.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7685YxuZi0
>untouched onmyo on my shrine maiden/Ho-oh set dropped from 48% to 22%Harsh. Almost might as well not bother with it. Were people really abusing the Hellspells that hard?>>558487819Not only is it clunkier than 2's, I swear this last patch made it worse.
>>558491434Yeah and it's bad.A single stance for 1kat has the biggest parry window so you end up relying on that one style for 1 wep for most of the game, it's so fucking silly man you can't defend this.the game is so parry heavy that it's obvious people will find out and abuse it, and it's baffling that a studio like TN did this decision. It's not at all like the specific parries in Nioh, this would be like the deflect mechanic being inconsistent between weapons. And even then I think Nioh 2's different timing per spirit type was retarded and I'm glad 3 fixed this.
>>558487819it's a skill
RotR is dogshit.
>>558492063
>>558492286Indians probably made RotR and Nioh 3, which is why they're so ass.
>>558492063That implies it has no redeeming qualities which isn't true. It's mediocre overall but has moments of brilliance.
>>558492763I'll give you that the stealth was kind of fun, I liked the open world slop stuff, and the fashion was okay.
the lighting in rotr is absolute dogwater
This game sold me on War Thunder, because that game NEVER fails to provide fun.ya I uninstalled at the 1st map boss: baba nobufagga>~75 fps but ever so often the game slows down(not missed frames. it just goes into slomo mode(yes I did all the fps fixes but its only during this fight))>spammed ki pulses and blocks in between the raping like good 'souls-like' bot players do>watched every single faggot jewtoober video on him(lurking with ad blockers because fuck those kikes)>duplicated everything in multiple builds>in between losses farmed gay useless shit till lvl 63Here' my stats>319 fails(was goin for 420 cuz muh weedlamoa but fuckit)when I decided to start counting, I got>47 input fails on heals>22 input fails on talismans(not that it would matter anyway)>lvl 60 weapons but maybe ever got 10 hits on him per try anywayBRUH JUST KI PULSE BLOCK AND DODGE BRUH GIT GUD!I bet, on their internal server stats, that of the 'le 10 mill copies sold to these dumb retards lol', maybe 10k will ever even finish this broken game. ps you can go back to your regularly scheduled jerkoff session now.
>558493098Didn't read lol
>>558493098is this a copypasta
>>558491810>so you end up relying on that one style for 1 wep for most of the gameSounds like a (you) issue with a splash of projection. I and tons of other players were able to weave through multiple styles just fine without being dependent on one style to win fights. You, like a lot of people, mistake a tool with a lower barrier of entry as being the end all be all. It's like people who think that Spear in Nioh games is just "mid stance strong attack spam" and never do anything else for multiple playthroughs and wonder why they burn out before they even finish their first playthrough.>It's not at all like the specific parries in Nioh, It precisely is that. A Backwave with Katana is a much different timing compared to something like Just Reprisal for Switchglaive. And this is a good thing, since it means more things to learn and master instead of having everything be the same boring standardized timing. >And even then I think Nioh 2's different timing per spirit type was retarded Imagine hating this and the playstyle variety and skill ceiling it created.Try not being a DPSfag who only cares about and values higher numbers and lower effort as being the sole metric for a playstyle's worth in a game.
>>558493098Yeah the cheevo rates on PS5 are abysmal and multiplayer is already dying. Game is not good and only sold on Nioh 1 and 2's reputation.
>just tried shrike on a revenant using sword of meditationKek. Fuck that move
I think they should allow us to recoloouuuuuuuuuur the living artifact mode
>>558493640they should let you have sex with kasha
I wonder if the DLCs will expand the Eternal Rift in the future aside from adding an entry to an abyss/underworld like area.
Power that Ninja 1Kat offer is comically high compared to effort that's needed to pilot the weapon. Wagon Kick has amazing water application, and Kickslash deals like 3 times more than it should. And everything is extremly easy to play too.
>>558493640I love how you retards think it's perfectly normal to leave tutorial hints on the entire game. TN really should've had those turn off automatically by default.
>>558494661I leave it on to trigger retards like you
>reach Minister in Kakizaki>want to take the Shinsenguni or Todo pill>hate to give up +13% melee ki damage and 18% melee damage vs. enemiesI honestly can't even imagine doing it. Both feel so comically low already, especially on odachi.
>>558494974>18% melee damage vs. enemiesWinded* enemies, ofc.
>>558494937Okay, champ, whatever makes you happy.
>Have to fight the three pride bosses in a rowCrikey
>>558495158thank you.
>>558494185the hold x move breaks guard on human bosses in if they block it maybe twice
>>558495182Pride and Obsession are absolute slogs. Envy's weirdly squishy and not too dangerous until her last 20% of HP, then the she's like Saito where she won't stay the fuck still and you can't get anywhere near her without getting clipped by something. Hate it all.
>>558493464>cheevowtf is this zoomerspeak?since its a portjob, one would think it would have ran smoothly at 30fps AT A MINIMUM.I locked my fps at 60 and monitor at 120hz for that ultra smooth gitgud playstyle.
>>558495512>zoomerspeakAnon?A*chieve*ments = cheevos. That slang's been around for about as long as XBox.
>>558493986>$70 for a 2005 quality screenshotYOU'RE SO WINNING BROS!
>>558495631>never cared about xbox>never cared about video game achievements because they mean nothing to anyone except retarded pokemon cattle
Can someone confirm if fatal fists actually works on talons and cestus? I'm afraid that one poster earlier is pulling my leg. I tried it in the training scroll and I didn't notice any difference
>>558495502Yeah, I tried like 5 times and died to her last phase everytime. I'll get it tomorrow.
>>558496096he is in fact pulling your leg it AND fist talismans don't do much of anything
>>558496096fists is only good for pure ninjutsu casting since it scales on your attack power and barehanded has like 100000 attack power
>>558495992well today you learned an extremely popular slang term that's been around for like twenty yearsunc
>>558493098>319 failsYou're fucking trash, you have brain problems.>1st map boss: baba nobufaggaHe's literally nothing. Imagine struggling to beat his ass lmao
Kunimatsu is a good fucking boss. I don't get the hate.
>>558483536Absolutely nasty clip.What was the gap closer you used right at the end? Saw you swap to ninja, but I dont recognize the move.
just saw>there is strong negative ki growing somewheresystem messagewhat the fuck is that? did they shadow drop somethin
>>558489769Someone on nexus modded in wacky skin colors for 2, rotr, and wo long for his mlp characters
>>558498852nvm it's a warning for enemy base respawn
2nd impressions on NG+, only just got to Bakumatsu though so still first impressions on those>SDemon of PrideDemon of ObsessionKunimatsu rematchShinsaku>AYoritomoIbaraki Doji, fun but not quite Shuten-tierHuman ShingenOkita SojiBloodedge DemonJakotsu-Baba, great first proper bossDemon of EnvyHiruko 2, pretty kino but too easy compared to Otakemaru. Maybe he will move up on NG+ because I wont kill the demons in the open-field zones before and some of the bosses from NG feels way better on NG+ in my opinionHiruko 1, I don't like the blood phase in phase 2 much but he's fun>BYokai ShingenYoshinobuOtoroshiGreat Tengu, cool design but his moveset isn't that memorableKusanagi, Himiko shooting lasers at you makes it mildly more interestingBaba NobuharuYokai Masakage>CNuribotokeHuman Masakage, I don't remember his fight much at all, still feels like a tutorial boss even after the "you're supposed to lose" tutorial boss against Kunimatsu, but I feel like he was alright>DKagetoki, pokemon attacks are interesting but he's just simply not that fun to fight
>know Team Ninja soulslikes are absolute kino when all DLC are released>still feel tempted to buy Nioh 3
>>558498727It's one of the physical arts in the ninja tree, Lightning Step. I picked it up to make up for splitstaff's lack of options and it's been great so far
>>558502475Oh great idea. I use mostly Hatchets, so I am spoiled on gap closers and space makers. Thanks for the tip. Will be useful when I learn Splitstaff. That is next after Ninja 1kat. I am always a sucker for any teleport-style move in games, but I just havent required it yet.
>make an actual build with set bonusesshadow arts ninjutsu is fucking disgusting
>>558502475is it me or his horse back riding form is just more annoying then hard compared to on foot
>>558503924he gets easier every time
>>558502475ive been using heron kick which isnt too bad; im fine giving up the wind/cyclone for it anyway. the harder decision was: shapeshifting strike does infinity damage but i want to use orion's belt
>>558499005enhanced enemy base respawn :)
>>558500684you can pirate it for now
This game is awesome, I was yelling KINO in front of my TV and shitting my pants during this cutscene.
>>558503924It's hilarious when he bugs out and just gallops full speed in circles around you though
>>558506331Personally I think 2 had a good story. I don't get the hate.
>>558507882the story is ok, uncommonly good for a TN game, the writing is godawful.
>>558507882>>558507882because the story wasn't spelled out
>>558487819animation cancels are a crutch desu
>see cowboy's inari vid>farm a nice 7p inari 2p kintoko 3p warrior of the east set>sentry/ gozuki>48% damage reduction while attacking>21% martial art damage>28% elemental weapon damage>37% damage vs winded>odachi>shinsengumi best of five>can barely beat the first guy>he just blocks everything and two-taps me when he feels like not blocking>switch to unoptomized ninja shit and blow him up in two seconds with lmao1katInari seems fair 2bh.
>>558507882Somehow after playing 3, 2's story does seem pretty good...
>>558507882I didn't know it was hated, I'm enjoying it. Got me interested in a Nobunaga story which is quite a feat, I was tired of meeting Nobunaga in games and anime by Onimusha.
>>558509237Opposite for me, I haven't played games from this period before and felt disappointed with how absent he ended up being from the story... His appearance in Nioh 1 was more memorable despite being there for like 5 minutes.
kunimatsu was kinda lame and forgettable compared to tokichiro wasnt he
>>558509758they should have made him hotter and upped the sexual tension
>>558509758I bet there was a draft where he DID follow takechiyo being a CUNT through time instead of his demons, but I supposed they designed it around his mental problems so some one would would spare him (if they're into oneeshota)
>>558498073lol you're a shitdev who eats jew ass for a livin.>oo look at mee even my gayass can do it!nigger, there's a line of lvl70+ blue flags that goes from the door alll the way to the shrine so it isn't just me. The twitch players have figured out that the input code is such shit you have to double tap the block for it even to 'work'.Here's an example>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg4fxmxaebUHe's probably ALSO has a mod to prevent Ki-loss because ,if you notice,he's not losing ANY Ki on any of his blocks(perfect or not). PLUS, this dudes dash ends him across the room.Anyone else lose about 30-50%. And Ki-pulse JUST DOESN'T EVEN WORK unless your fightin mobs.
>>558509758Kuni-who?
>>558509758Kunimatsu is tolerable compared to Himiko and Hiruko. THIS IS 1620 FUCK OFF ANCIENT BOOMERS DONT DRAG YOUR SHIT TO ME.
trying out dual samurai katana, is the parry bugged? even type B controls the chracter flips backwards to parry, making it useless
should I replay the tutorial for ng+?
>>558494974you can mix/match clan bonuses as long as you leveled them up.The optimal Strat is to max out the Clan that gives bonus glory, then switch to other clans you like bonuses of, and just keep the glory bonus slotted to rank them up faster. Then eventually you can mix and match the exact bonuses you want for samurai and ninja (which you can set separately).
>>558508630you should learn (or just ask) how to bust through guard with your favorite samurai weapons. they can all do it.
>>558510716not sure what you mean but ill go check
>>558510716i couldnt recreate it-- was wondering if there was some new bug... maybe there is, or maybe youre on crack. restart your game
>>558512323its the backwards counter thing not the l1
>>558512504high stance back counter, the rest work for me.
>>558512504>>558512612works on my machine
i have like 200 hours played and i can craft 2 lightning amuletswhat were these retards thinking?
it is interesting that despite the odachi's unscribble still kinda ends the scabbard at the side anyway that it would be alot easier to just Keep it on the hip then even putting it in the back...
OH NO NO NO NO>Decreased the increase to damage dealt by melee damage with the Shinsengumi Crest Protection "A Warrior's Honor.">Fixed an issue causing the Todo Crest Protection "Life Bonus (Stamina)" to be applied to stats other than Stamina.>blanket nerf to every damage taken reduction while attackinganimals will have to play the game
>>558512901... show face? That looks eerily like my character.
>Todo bugfixedUh oh, /nig/gers have to learn to play the game now...
>>558516019Or I could just use a trainer.
>>5585078822 has the best story in the series>b-but WirriamCope
>>558515748i think i saw your character posted the other day and noticed the hair...i mightve been going for a similar look to default takechiyo, but i cant remember
>>558516282Not that similar then, I just don't see that hair used a lot.
>>558514129>>558516019And suddenly 70% of the "fans" quit the game KEK
>>558516153implying you already didnt
>>558516748Who's implying?
>>558516934(You)
>>558494661maybe because it's not listed as tutorial hints in settings, but fucking "show controls" under user accessibility settings for some reason
wowe
the implementation of the red parry shit from nioh 2 onwards is absolute cancer and whoever keeps greenlighting it needs to be unemployed. here's a big red flash that obscures 90% of the boss but lets you know that you need to parry some time in the next .5 to 3 seconds
when patch
I just don't find the first Hiruko fight to be very fun.
>>558519381skill issue + I'm pretty sure you can block them in 3 anyway...
>>558494661My brain almost completely filtered it out, sorry your brain isn't as pragmatic.
Guys i cant flux 2 on rising gale and winter wind
>>558520107same but final form is kino
I keep booting up the game with literally nothing to do in it. I'm glad we finally got Sohaya armor for samurai though. I ended up making my set look identical on both styles, and switching is a lot cooler now.
>>558522617play nioh 2
>>558522654I already did and I don't really feel like starting it again. It's one of those things where thinking about having played it is more enjoyable than actually replaying it.
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>>558523187Skill issue. These are the only games I currently have visible in my library.
I can't get good screenshots of my takechiyo because this game is so blurry and ugly in cutscenes all the time! Using DLAA
>veteran scrollsgod damn that was easy
>>558523687bullying fuku..
they should have let my nigga ryoma live. cant believe they wasted this era on rise of the ronin, we could have had yokai commodore perry
What if they add an onmyo style in the DLC that is like ninja but you can use yokai skills?
The game could use a poison rice ball gimmick>>558524061His death in this plot was three years earlier than it should have been, but they probably did this to avoid his marriage to Oryo that occurred in the same year the Bakamatsu timeline takes place.
>>558524501That would be pretty cool, but I'm not sure how it would work with the soul core/enhancement system.
>>558524501They'll probably just give the splitstaff Himiko's spell attacks for you to fuck around with
>>558519381Retard
i'm starting to get a little fed up with scion of the gods spam
Should I go back and finish ROTR? Did they ever fix the PC port?
>>558526113No and no
>>558516019Based. It is now possible to beat the game.
>>558526113Yes its a good game
What's a weapon other than talons that would complement caestus on ninja
why does nioh 3 have none of the good nioh 2 stuff>monsters drop parts>literally dont do anything
holy fuck samurai 2kat is bad
>>558528150gotta leave stuff for dlc
>>558528150secret skills are one of the few things im glad they didnt bring back i dont wanna kill ninja gaiden 200 times again just to get izuna drop
>>558528152skill issue
>>558528103Talons.
>>558528103Hatchets would be sick
>>558530027I should elaborate; they have all this poke and kiting stuff for dealing with multiple yokai— but wild surge into swapping into infinite whatever would feel kinda nice
>>558530000
>>558528598farming bosses for drops was fun, seeing yourself improving and eventually completely demolishing them is fun. less incentive to do that now since the secret skills don't exist anymore
>>558533792nyo
>>558533792its fun like the first 5 times and then it devolves into tedium and then you get to the point where youre wondering if you even want the skill enough to keep going
it's important to practice the bosses a lothttps://files.catbox.moe/evb09n.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/ifamjo.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/y9m4yo.jpg
>>558511448Teach me, o wise one, how to break these cheaty fuck NPC guards with odachi and samurai 2kat
its fucking REAL?
>>558535035>and samurai 2kat2kat you have moon shadow, and double headed slice, winter wind, god of wind, windstorm, etc. it's just unrelenting pressure until they break, if you hit a block, you just go straight into moon shadow then continue your pressure chainpractice weaving in winter wind between each skill and stance swap to get the ki pulse/attack benefit while keeping pressure up, once they're out of ki, grapple first, then water sword after and you're likely to get them out of ki again by the time watersword endswebm was pretty early into release, but it illustrates some of these concepts
>>558535035>odachiswirling snow and ground sweeper will hard bully almost every human enemy in the game
>>558535035This is universal but your high stance attacks and martial arts dont bounce; you use these and pace yourself with ki pulseFor odachi high stance swirling snow and low stance ground sweeper smash through quickI forget with 2kat, other than water sword. But apply what i was talking about above if no one else chimes in
>running around doing my thing>run across a benevolent grave>pause>walk back>level 1>in a late game areaBut why. Just to show off that they got there at level 1? Nobody's going to summon a level 1.
I hate what they did to archers impact desu
>>558537365what did they do to it? haven't done cestus in N3
>>558537532added a really awkward delay to the beginning of it, just feels plain awful to use
>>558537587ah, so they ruined the flow, fuck TN
>play only Ninja 1Kat>you can't actually attack human bosses apart form hold triangle move>it becomes a slog of holding down 1 button for 5 minutes, as it deals no damage and boss recovers entire ki bar during your recovery animation after the attackFantastic design. I love the fact that humans regenerate entire Ki bar in less than a second. I wish they also stole good parts of Sekiro, not just the bad ones.
>>558538415And don't get me started about bosses doing 720 spins during their attack animation, or spinning 180 degrees between hits while bar is empty on Yokai bosses because stagger lasts 0.1s on them which makes it good enough to not get hit back, but if it's actual boss not a punching bag u cant use backstab mechanic.
>>558536602prob lvl 1 challenge graveI saw a ton of them during the demo in the princess battle scroll mission, I was just chain running it so I would see the same names slowly moving through out the level, was kind of neat actually.
>>558535356>>558535483>>558535670Double-Headed Slice, Swirling Snow, and Ground Sweeper are gay.
>>558539261a red lvl 1 grave would make sense, a blue level 1 grave in a late game area not so much
>>558539640get filtered then i guess
5750 hp to 4950 hp when removing todo bonus for me at max if anyone wanna know.how did clans work again, what did i have to do to keep the choices when leaving?
>>558539640
>>558541375prep menu i believe
>>558534171Nice. I wonder how these games run on the Steam Deck.
>trying to find which zone the bloodedge is in>cant find a single red grave anywherealright then
What clans for Grugbros now? Less damage reudction is concerning
>>558542428Check if you're online at a shrine, I get disconnected regularly, jap coding
>>558542550i thought that too at first but im online and i just straight up cant find any graves anywhere im even checking in the spots where people usually die and around platforming sections but theres nothing
>>558542648well nevermind i got incredibly lucky and he was right next to a shrine i travelled to while looking for more gravesstill no mask drop tho
>>558542452I still can't imagine not using Kakizaki. What the hell could possibly be better now that you can't double your HP anymore.
>>558543049>KakizakiShinshengumi, probably, but I haven't cheched the stats post-patch for it
>>558541375you gotta send your donations to israel and get the approval to hold the rank where you can mix and match clan bonuses its like group leader or sum mane
>>558543024He drops a mask?
>>558541375Blessings menu at a shrine there's a clan option
>realize nioh 2 combat is just based on blocking and waiting until yokai does red attack then doing red block with basically no alternative cause even 1 stamina mistake will 1 shot you>total opposite in nioh 3the curse of slow is only made apparent when go fast. then go slow impossible. sigh...
>>558541426>>558543234>>558543515Thanks, so for glory farming bloodedge graves + itsumade accursed temple scroll has a bunch of graves, good for glory farming, im gonna grind till i get divine bonus on a clan, and then just switch, i think hitting divine keeps you safe from decay
>>558543349yeah he has a rare smithing text drop that looks like the face mask from one of those samurai helmets with a moustache
>>558543198Shinsengumi went from something like 48% extra dmg to 10%, i went back to Kakizaki
>>558516019Yeah I can play the game again now, but it's not enough of a nerf. They need to fucking nerf everything.>>558487819being able to cancel out of everything isn't good design and makes the game too easy.
I guess the DLC story could potentially save it depending on if they have the balls to actually depict the Shimabara rebellion.
That's it, I think I'll just build a tank axe for NG+, I'm fucking tired of dodging and playing stamina game with humans.
>>558544397Is Kakizaki the ki damage one?
>>558545206But red attacks that go out faster than half of the player animations is a great design and getting locked without ability to do anything screams to me about good design. Removal of ability to cancel out of moves with burst or switch just makes it annoying and unfun to commit to anything.
>>558552969
>>558552974Just equip the skill that lets you cancel out of animations with the style shift button.
>game crashed again but this time I barely startednice fix devs...
>>558552974>>558554415style shift flow works with just burst break too btw
Can someone walk me through Odachi? What am I supposed to use from it's kit? Is there any secret to not bouncing in midstance now? Why does 1 attack string cost entire Ki bar?
>>558557783>Can someone walk me through Odachi?no, press your buttons
>enenra shows up>forget to use deflect and just dodge most his attacks thanks to Nioh 2heh
Some of the titles aren't giving the prestige that they are supposed to...
>>558557783Nioh 3's odachi may as well be balanced for a different game altogether
wish you could reset the world state in NG+ and start story and exploration from scratch
I started Wo Long. Is it harder than Nioh 3?I kinda lost the will to play Nioh 3's NG+ since they fixed the Todo bug and now everything is killing me in 2 hits.I played Nioh, Nioh 2 and Jack's Game for reference.
>>558564870yea this and the shit state of battlescrolls are my main complaints
>>558535035>2katYou use martial arts and then Winter Wind in between to keep up aggression and make the gaps in your combo "seamless". Well, you can still pressure even without it but I recommend getting used to using it between things. God of Wind 3 is still as great as ever so it's often the best "root" of your combo that you then combo into other things. Of course you can also start off with other things such as Raijin, Demon Thrust, or even Mortal Flow. High attacks can't be deflected so you can follow those with Cherry Blossom, Spinning Dragon, Water Sword, or Windstorm. But I'll still recommend that you learn the following: GoW3 in mid stance (either version), flux+Winter Wind to low, Twin Dragons (either version), then Earthrender, then flux+Winter Wind to high for Windstorm/Water Sword/whatever you want, or go back to mid and throw out Raijin or whatever you want. You can end this wherever you want with SotC as a finisher. You can substitute Twin Dragons with Doubleheaded Slice if you like that better but I think the TD+ER combo is better though I haven't actually added up damage numbers. Earthrender can sometimes miss so but it'll usually hit. You can also do an aerial GS skill off of Twin Dragons and certain ones will let you combo Earthrender off of it because you remain airborne afterwards. Of course you're free to make your own combos and variations because there's plenty of good combo string combinations but God of Wind is still one of 2kat's key moves. Yes, you need to use one normal attack beforehand but it's really not that hard to get one un-deflected attack in.
Why can't ninja remove yokai realms from the get go? Why gate it behind skills? Why even put it in if you don't want to be baseline? Why martial arts spam slop is the best way to fight anything and basic attack strings lost any meaning and usefulness? You are never breaking Ki of anything with your basic attacks. Why add aerial combat if it's clunky and weaker option than just standing and spaming severing spin, or any other 1kat move really. Why does gameplay of third of a weapons devolve into hold triangle if you want to be optimal? Why can we make immortal characters during 1.0 of the game? I don't think we need reduced damage while attacking 90% before even getting to NG+. Why do we remove moveset of half of the weapons and restrict what can be used so hard on them? What the fuck happened to splitstaff and why did it deserve this? I hate red, brown and red on brown. At least Kasha returned.
i see a lot of complaining about odachi, but no one talking about how the whatever:earth stance switch martial arts don't work with ground sweeper or soaring fowl. it's like the entire point of the weapon
>>558568396Why are you retarded?
>>558569383I wouldn't mind getting corrected, which point do you not agree with or think it's not right? I still like the game it's completely fine, it's just a downgrade compared to N2 in every aspect which is extremely jarring. Thankfully Nioh2 was good enough that you can downgrade it by a lot and still get a good game out of it.
nioh 3 is still in early access bro wait for the dlc
>>558570418This unironically
I thought I screengrabbed it but apparently not but did anyone else see a unique message in the first map in NG+ like "an evil ki is building somewhere" . what tha fuck does that mean. it happened when I killed a yoki in the town a little east of the first crucible
>>558570905It means enemies are about to respawn in a minor crucible on enemy base area you previously cleared
>>558570905after you kill a certain amount of enemies a random camp you have defeated will respawn in an enhanced state
>>558569813Ninja mode is faster and they want to give you incentive to use samurai to purify. They give ninja the option to purify but it comes at a small cost. Using the word "slop" makes me think you're retarded, but basic attack strings are used frequently alongside martial arts. You need to do basic quick and strong attacks in order to use certain MAs and strong attacks can also continue/benefit from AP. Many weapons have good MAs that come after quick/strong attacks. As for just doing a full basic combo, that's still good for just doing more damage before you go into that MA and many weaker enemies can just be stagger-locked and killed with a basic combo. Quick attack are lower commitment and can be used to get small flurries of damage in during smaller gaps.Aerial combat is just another combat option, some weapons are better for it than others. Samurai mode isn't built for long air combos but certain ninja weapons can spend a lot of time in the air, like ninja 2kat, and also have good air moves in general. I don't know where you're getting that "hold triangle" is "optimal" for a third of the weapons but none of the weapons I use are like that. As for that next part, it's an RPG and breaking the game has always been something you could do in Nioh. Just don't make a stupid face-tank build, it's that simple.
Which faction is the one that boosts glory gain?
>>558570418I hope the dlc is actually good I want at least 5 new giant maps per dlc and at least 500 new armor sets per dlc + at least 1000 new enemy types per dlc.
>>558570418This is every nioh game
I still don't know what the point of crafting weapons is and I've played since nioh 1 launch
>>558573629To add them to the transmog list.
>only ninja chest and accessories missing from being full 170the grind is almost over
>>558573701this pretty muchthe forge is mainly for upgrading drops you find out in the world
>>558571409>As for that next part, it's an RPG and breaking the game has always been something you could do in Nioh. Just don't make a stupid face-tank build, it's that simple.So im responsible for game balancing, not developers now? >I don't know where you're getting that "hold triangle" is "optimal" for a third of the weapons but none of the weapons I use are like that.Kusa, both 2kat weapons, Odachi, are first four that come to mind. No matter what clown shit u can do in the air it's inferior to just pressing nin2kat watersword or whatever is the name of hold triangle on Kusa. And air gameplay is way more unsafe against big bosses while giving lesser reward.
When are they going to add accessory reforging?
>>558574119i'm guessing DLC
>>558574059You're responsible for your own experience. Why are you playing the game to begin with? If it's to have fun and you think a certain build is not fun, then don't use it. Nioh has always had ways to break the game since the very first game, the first play-through is never designed for build autism which is why people tell you to just use whatever you pick up. I never made the face-tank build it doesn't affect me whatsoever if some tards want to play like that.I would love to see you play 2kat because that's not true for either of them whatsoever. You sound like a newfag that has very little experience with either weapon but I've been using 2kat since Nioh 1 and this is laughable. As for ninja 2kat, no the air combos are actually very strong and Divine Flight actually can help with avoiding attacks because you're off the ground and away from low sweeps but also because you move behind them. And if you're behind them, you can now using Spinning Drill on their backs for that big fat extra damage. Water Sword is a good move but if you think it's optimal to use nothing but it then you're terrible at using both weapons.
>>558570418It has many more fundamental flaws than N1/2, that no additional amount of content will fix.
someone posted a webm of 73% reduced damage while attacking, they were using an axe. How did they get that value so high?
>>558568396You forgot>why is it so easy?I don't even want to play this shit anymore
>>558574960Well I've played through everything all of the games have to offer so I wouldn't exactly consider myself newfag. I'm not capable of nohitting bosses in earlier games, especially DLC ones, but I believe I know how to play more or less, especially since I usually don't use anything apart from weapon moveset on 1st run or two of each title. Obviously I didn't mean that u just walk up to enemy in neutral and press watersword, although still kinda possible with immortal builds. But the moment u are safe to use move, let's say ki-broken Yokai with big model, you are pressing watersword, you are pressing reaper, it's just the best thing to do in the situation. I'm not going to jump into the air, dash through enemy and drill into the ground while I could have taken half of his HP during that span with a watersword. Gameplay versus enemy with nonbroken Ki is going to look a little more nuanced than my implied hold triangle(not for tonfa tho) I give u that.
>>558565127>Is it harder than Nioh 3?I found it much easier. I died 2x more times in the first region of Nioh 3 than I did in the entirety of Wo Long's base game (DLCs are a fair bit harder)
do you have to rank up in each different clan?
>>558575856Well you're just kind of admitting that you don't just "hold triangle" then. Water Sword is a stationary move, anon. Not everything just lets you stand there and use it because they'll move away. The air combos for ninja 2kat are strong/mobile and are further buffed with Cloud Dancer. If you want to simply use Water Sword for ki breaks then fine but there's way more to the weapon than just that. Did you know how hard Shadow Slice hits for example? Using Cicada Shell to instantly get behind them and then Shadow Slice will do tons of damage. You also have things like Versatility which I use and it buffs using many martial arts. For Samurai 2kat, when I break ki, I'm doing a large hard hitting AP combo and then sometimes I'll end it with Water Sword but other times I won't. People like you just get it in your head that something is "optimal" and then just ignore everything else while trying to reduce every other aspect of the game.
>>558577012donate a bunch of gear
>only 1 (one, eins, UNO) new weapon for Ryu in NG4 dlcKek, fucking team ninja. I will not expect Samurai splitstaff or tonfa next.
I remember hating wo long when i tried the demo but i can’t remember why
>>558578513I do, it just felt bad to play after coming from nioh 2.>easily die constantly>controls completely different from nioh 2 and felt bad>weird banner system>at the time there were rumors of a "nioh open world game" in dev so everyone kept thinking wo long was the new nioh openworld game only to be disappointed it wasn't.
>>558578013NG4 is made by Platinum, anon. TN just advised them on things but didn't handle any of the actual development.
>>558568396>Why can't ninja remove yokai realms from the get go? Why gate it behind skills? Why even put it in if you don't want to be baseline?Because Ninja doesn't need to worry about area denial as much as Samurai. Ninja's have better mobility, moves wth more range, more arieal attacks, ninjutsus.Samurai style is much more stationary and close range dependent in comparison.>Why martial arts spam slop is the best way to fight anything and basic attack strings lost any meaning and usefulness? You are never breaking Ki of anything with your basic attacks.Basic lights and heavies are great because they generally require less commitment and set up than martial arts moves. They're good for when you're trying to fight cautiously and slip attacks in while you're fighting very strong and very aggressive enemies.>Why add aerial combat if it's clunky and weaker option than just standing and spaming severing spin, or any other 1kat move really. For the aforementioned situations I outlined above.>Why does gameplay of third of a weapons devolve into hold triangle if you want to be optimal? Cause they went a little crazy moving moves to hold triangle this time.>Why can we make immortal characters during 1.0 of the game?Cause it's 1.0 of the game. Is this your first nioh game?>I don't think we need reduced damage while attacking 90% before even getting to NG+. No, but it's fun. Plus it's a singleplayer game, and there's legitimate grinds like for 170 gear and smithing texts you shouldn't be shamed for cheesing.>Why do we remove moveset of half of the weapons and restrict what can be used so hard on them? What the fuck happened to splitstaff and why did it deserve this?Legit criticism. Sucks that tonfa, kusa, and splitstaff users don't get to enjoy the new stuff like deflecting and frost moon. Or even stances now.>hate red brown red brownAnother legit criticism. The game becomes pretty monochromatic after the warring states era.
>>558568396>Why can't ninja remove yokai realms from the get go? Why gate it behind skills? Why even put it in if you don't want to be baseline?unlocking features is not a bad thing, that way you can appreciate the increased flexibility of saving/spending your resources rahter than have choice/dilemma paralysis>Why martial arts spam slop is the best way to fight anything and basic attack strings lost any meaning and usefulness?it isnt, and they havent>You are never breaking Ki of anything with your basic attacks.very not true, alot of moves can do the heavy lifting, but something as simple as a shuriken on a zero-ki enemy is how i get alot of my stamina breaks, as well as keeping the stamina low, blocked attacks also have different ki break values>Why add aerial combat if it's clunky and weaker option than just standing and spaming severing spin, or any other 1kat move reallymaybe pick a weapon with a better aerial compatibility/moveset, its an option in ninja gaiden, still clunky, but more importantly evasive if you know what youre doing>Why does gameplay of third of a weapons devolve into hold triangle if you want to be optimal?only a third of them? whats the problem then?>Why can we make immortal characters during 1.0 of the game? I don't think we need reduced damage while attacking 90% before even getting to NG+clearly they agree with you and have addressed it/are addressing it in patches>Why do we remove moveset of half of the weapons and restrict what can be used so hard on them?go play nioh2 if you dont like it, different game, different expectations>I hate red, brown and red on brownagreed, the game and frankly alot of the cosmetics need to be better
>download nioh 1>huh 1 unfinished mission>hideyori and fox fight>uninstall
Does Switchglaive retreating slash have iframes?
>>558565127Wo Long went through a series of enemy nerfs and player buffs it is probably not that difficult. Especially since you have played N1,N2 and SoP.The DLC bosses are more difficult like Nioh 1.
>>558565127>I kinda lost the will to play Nioh 3's NG+ since they fixed the Todo bug and now everything is killing me in 2 hits.I know your kind>im grinding red graves for glory points>fucking nimrods with lv 100 gear in NG+>zero investment into HP/heart stats people joining and making TONS of mistakes but not dyingjust up your defense and learn to dodge, 2 hits is generous when ninja should be dying in 1You people made this mistake in elden souls and in this game it actually matters because the bosses actually have a solid amount of health and cant be poise-cheesed to death
>>558583256I should elabroate>>zero investment into HP/heart stats people joining and making TONS of mistakes but not dyingbecause when i put my oasis down it heals an indicated 2-3 times for than what I heal for despite (pre-nerf) todo's having zero gear investmentIt kind of disgusts me the idea that prepatch people were probably complaining bosses were weak because... they were abusing a genuinely broken hp pool
>>558578513>your weapon decides your martial arts, they only have 1 MA, 2 if you are lucky>spells have arbitrary morale limit>only 4 spell slots>runs like shit>no collectable counter, you need to visit each stage yourself to checkWo Long at launch legitimately was a mess. And the game was a bit hard so people pissed and shitted even more.After the DLCs the game is decent for me.
I just got to baku and I am so fucking angry that Shinsaku shows up and gets to use his fucking revolver and this is now three games in a row with fancy gunslingers and we don't get shit. They even had some fucking revolver moves in Ronin I would be fine with them porting over for a new weapon type.Fuck me.
>>558584096I think of the interesting weapons we could get since bakumatsu in on the table>bayonetcool>european-style greatsword/ninja gaiden style swinging slab of metalcool>sabrecool>more than basic accomodation for unarmed combatcool>oxtail/chinese swordcoolliterally anything from RotR would be a nice edition
>>558584578It seems like the only thing they took from ronin was the open world and god awful performance. :^)
>>558584693b-based
>>558543198I like date for refunding guardian skills.
>>558586996that only applies on kill doesnt it? rarely are my finishing blows from the guardian skill(s)I feel like more spirit force/charge will serve you better
>>558543349Screenshot from the demo.
>>558587653>got it from dem>demo save got corrupt and had to start over>never see it againREEEEEE
>>558587480You're honestly right and I never noticed till now. I tested it once and I guess I must have killed the enemy I did it on.Well that's fucking gay.
>>558578513It's badly generic. There are the usual critical arguments and counterarguments but it's undeniably bland and unremarkable.
>>558574991not really, but you wouldnt know better
After trying 1 and 2 again im slightly appreciating 3 more. I think the DLC will save 3. Also NG+ is better in 3. The open world setting makes it more convenient, i could barely get trough 5 missions before giving up on 1 and 2. 3 i will fully embrace all ng++ and get as strong as possible.
>>558590159I still greatly miss yokai skills and feral dodge. Going from 6 skills to 1 for samurai and 1 for ninja really sucks. The second skill on every spirit being a shitty summon blows pretty hard and I wish they could cancel animations more consistently like yokai skills.
Hey Axebros, going to be giving the weapon a solid shot this week in 3. I played it a bit in 2, but forgot most of it. I have all the crucible skills and a good build with a yasa, 2 pc kintaro, 4 pc tatenashi.Would yall mind teaching me a bit about the active skills you use and why? I have messed around with them all, and I really would like to get a better flow with the weapon.Is there any interesting tech or other facts I should know about?Any skills to avoid using?Any skills that have particularly good damage? (I am usually one to shy away from muh DEEPS but it is still good to be aware of solid moves to end on)
>>558584578Totally agree. I loved the big sword and all the charge moves. It felt so unique to pick and choose when to charge and when not to. The revolvers were very fun to flow with in combat. The bayonets were really cool to learn too. That game had some *style*.
>most of the gear in the open world is trash in NG+very lame...
>>558578513>muddy, bland graphics>poor quality animations>poorly explained and extremely janky mechanics(much jankier than the usual Team Ninja bullshit)>first boss is a "WELCOME TO DARK SOULS" scripted-death boss except no, you're expected to beat it or you don't get to play the game
>>558590649just tornado edgeeverything else about axe is still good but its nothing "amazing" dmg wise.
>>558590320Its weird for me going back, i used mid stance spear in both games. I loved replaying some missions, the levels were however extremely cryptic. The gameplay was also rigid. I played the whole of these games safe with mid stance strong attack and running away after each hit. Any other method i tried, i got raped.Sure, 3 is easier but i liked playing tonfas.i could have played another full game poking with a spear. The past games were very punishing, but felt rewarding. I hope the dlc fixes it.22 at nioh 1, 25 at 2, 31 at 3. Time flies.I have one question, if anyone can help me, im trying to find footage of the original nioh alpha, am i going crazy but i cant find it? Do you remember, in that dark allyway, you fight a samurai, and a bit further you fight 2 guys sitting down? Was this level not an alpha in itself??
are bloodedge spawns 24 hours from when you killed the last one or is it just a daily reset and a set time?
best gear set for both types? no not the spells, one shot builds, like tanky ones or overall ones.
>>558575070> that one guardian spirit that gives that stat> 2 peirce kintaru for some more> the first ever Nioh 1 boss Yokai for even more > sentry yokai for even even more > samurai skill for some more> hierloom armour (not a set bonus, it’s just a passive stat on this armour) for even more, so you can find it with whatever grace you want
>>558590649no real advice just what I use. tornado edge is probably the strongest move. victory rush has ton of range so use that too. it will always come out if you just hold forward while attacking and you ki pulse.I like using fang toss because it has a lot of range too. soul devourer is pretty nice with heal but I'm pretty bad at timing it. the rest is just what I find fun to use like high kick + tidebreaker, cloud rush and the new lumber chop variant.
>>558553364hank hill
>Shadow Clone Technique for Ninjas>More advanced version of Shadowself>Let's you spawn up to two version of yourself that acts independently>Low damage, low health, and can only persists in battle for 15 seconds (30 seconds with a skill), ideal for distracting enemies>Takes longer to charge up compared to other ninjitsu abilitiesIf they added that, would you use it?
>>558594327Sounds like instant meta.
>>558594327No, for the same reason I don't summon. I want to play the game myself, not have it played for me.
>patch notes says they buffed warriors honour clan buff>feels like i get half the damage bonus of befoream i just imagining it or did they actually nerf it instead?
Hatchets are pretty capable in air, what the hell, fire foot drill jump does a lot of heavy lifting but its very engaging gameplay wise, while obviously not as strong as wild surge, its very fun.
>>558595237go back to the learing centerboth glitched op clan bonuses got both nerfs and bugfixes which are a buffif you don't read the whole thing you will be confused
>>558590649The water and fire enhanced skill builds a ton of elemental status, so I tend to start the battle with one or even both to force confusion then fight normally.Tornado edge spam with damage taken when attacking is the lazy build.
>>558579893Yeah but guess who's paying
>>558591679I figured as much. Tornado Edge seemed to be killing very fast. I play with damage numbers off, they are too distracting. The low hits also help with little guys like Gaki and Mr. Bones when he falls down. >>558593502I use all 3 of those. Good to know they are solid moves. Fang Toss is very nice. I also use the new Lumber Chop. I was very surprised to find it actually deflects human moves, not just eats the damage like Sword of Meditation. >>558595926I have both equipped. Using them for Confusion is very solid for sure. Good to know that they aren't a complete waste of a slot for a gimmick. The volcano eruption is also just cool as fuck. >>558595491They really are. I love using the heavy - light follow up jump into drill kick jump, throw a light piercing, wild surge in, dual hawks. It is so smooth and makes Hatchets feel like a complete kit.
>>558592703there's a cooldown?
>>558597846si senor
>>558597223Koei Tecmo. They'll see that there's no appetite for conventional character action games anymore and invest more in RPGs like Nioh especially after Nioh 3.
>>558592994negro just look up builds on youtube
>>558578013>Samurai splitstaff or tonfaThe ninja versions are comparable to playing SF6 on modern. Total utter retardation.
>>558590649Tornado Edge is your bread and butter. You can get away with using only that.Titanic Strength Water and Bear's Bane Fire are good for building status. Mad Spinner Wind too but you only want to scam it with white meter.Rumbling Earth does stupid Ki damage.Most other moves are decent if you want to mix it up for versatility.Personally I prefer lightning onibi since you can apply Water, Fire and Wind naturally.Build damage reduction while attacking for max grug experience.
>>558597967based honestlyNioh>>>Ninja Gayden
>>558595796>nerfs and bugfixes which are a bufflmao shut the fuck up retard
What yang skills do you guys use? Stuff for passives or stuff for elemental procs? I've just been using the lightning oni lady and blood edge but I don't care for blood edge anymore.
>>558598164you're reading comprehension really sucks, are you brown?
>>558598164if something goes from [not fucking working] to [actually fucking working] yes that is in fact a buff
>>558598286They literally, literally, only nerfed Shinsengumi. And nerfing/bugfixing Toda to give less HP overall and way less initially is the exact opposite of a buff. You are a retarded faggot
>>558598284i dont use summonsi mean i use scamps because luck but idk, i might drop them, im still getting cucked on accessory drops
>>558598529luck doesn't affect drop rate, just the rarity of what does drop.
>>558598164The fixed the extremly obvious Bug of “Hp bonus: Stamina (C)” applying to every stat.Anyone saying that wasn’t a bug is fucking idiot and doesn’t deserve to speak on any other balance issue. At the same time they fixed different bug where this effect didn’t level up with Clan rank. If you rank up Todo it eventually becomes “hp bonus: Stamina (B+)”.So yes. They fixed two bugs. It no longer applies to every stat. But for the one stat it’s supposed to apply to, it’s now significantly better assuming you are higher than Foot Soldiet rank.
>>558597967Cringe honestlyNinja Gaiden >> Any soulslop
I just got style shift gust or whatever it's called. The skill where swapping lets you deflect projectiles. I tried it on the little jailer dudes throwing ice spears and it didn't work. This sucks
>>558598284red kappa summon will work even on bosses that have canned animations where they stand still, and it has nice passives, shadow arts ailment and spirit force on amrita gain. yamanba also has good passives, faster movement critical will trigger very often in boss fights and lasts for ages, and luck amrita absorb is nice. when you have the skill that makes cum mode generate amrita ofc e.g. water sword
>>558598717Not reading your retarded post, retarded faggot
>>558598773lmao what, you think they actually tested it? This is the game with 6 different parries commands on some wep type and none of them work on yokais
>>558598773gust only works on standard human projectiles unfortunately, it's always been like that
>>558598284i just use anything with a nice passive it might be because im on a toaster but a lot of the time when i use a summon it takes like a full 10-20 seconds for it to come out so i kinda gave up on them
>>558598717>it’s now significantly better assuming you are higher than Foot Soldiet rank.It most certainly is not.
>>558598682>just the rarity of what does drop>183 luck>still getting a bunch of yellow and blue crap in NG+
i play so much, but i still need life leech to survive the boss rushes. or at least to do them consistently
>>558598751did you play 4? did you play dmc 5? how does it compare
>>558599160just imagine the dogshit you would have without it
>>558599248
>>558598914ninja 2kat drifting counter works on yokai, teleports you behind them to do some backstab damage. of course no way to know that unless you try it out which is part of the god damned problem lol.
>>558599242NTA, but NG4 is more MGR2 than an actual NG4.
>>558598949>Get rekt by gatling gun>Get rekt by bow masterIt's frankly worthlessAt least switchglaive works as advertised
>>558599124that happened to me but only in bakumatsu era
>>558598773yeah the shit considered a "projectile" or not is completely arbitrary
>>558599583cool. mgr was probably my favorite action/whatever game after dmc 5. ill probably buy ng4 when it's down from like $90 CAD
Why is the mermaid so freaking cute/sexy anyway?
>>558600307Immaculate face rinse routine
>>558600307sucking lifeforce from men
>>558600454>when it's that time of month
>>558600734where's the vtuber ovulation calendar when you need it
i struggle w/ multiple yokai as samurai. what's the trick?
>>558600969don't be a woman
>>558600969>High damage instakill moves>Deflect+directional input to put your target in-between you and something else>Prioritizing ranged units or using heavy displacing attacks>High ki damage things to get stuns off>Not fucking up your burst counter>Hitting weak spotsPlenty of ways to manage many enemies
>>558600969use a weapon with aoe like 1kat
>>558602029>>558601510yea i was thinking about cestus when i asked (close range, lots of combos), but odachi handles multiple well thanks to stuff like cheatsweep and moonlit snow redux
>>558598125I had written off Rumbling Earth, I will give it a try tonight. You and everyone else who replied recommends Tornado Edge and the elementals attacks. Clearly those are useful. It's funny you mentioned building DR while Attacking. My initial set was Heirloom/GS/etc for as much as I could fit. I swapped over to the set I listed because of the elemental defense bonus and I wanted to see how well normal DR played out in cunjunction with some "while attacking" DR for sources like Soul Cores.
>>558602465AOE is one of the biggest weaknesses of cesuts, it's a single target rushdown weapon. Flying Fist Fire has a decent AOE attached to it and Dreadslayer can sometimes hit multiple foes. Other than that, you just have to poke at enemies or try to separate one and then rush it down. Or just use other tools because cestus isn't great with crowds.
>>558603115I like rumbling earth after spinning slide
>>558600969>Hellstream>Hellfire>????>Win
there's a filter for the hammer icon (modifier material) on the equipment's filter menu... how do you actually use that to disassemble those items?
>>558604849>click on it>set to with icon>hit back(this part is stupid)>click filter
>>558603115>>558603681rumbling earth was really good in 2 but not as powerful in 3.in 2 it had massive aoe reach when you got the upgraded version and destroyed enemy ki.It's just a no brainer to throw out tornado edges over everything else in 3 as a axe user>absurd dmg>comes out fast>built in hyper armor>tons of stagger
>>558605145Sounds like you are describing 2's Moonlit Snow. Sad how much they gutted Odachi in 3. (Bolting Boar my beloved has fallen, and our highest damage move is now the new low stance jump attack for some reason) That is mainly why I am going for Axe. I had heard nothing but praise for it here, so why not pick up something new? Tornado Edge seems to be the consensus for best move for Axe, assuming you can tank it or have the time for it. Axe has some surprisingly fast moves, I am finding. >>558603681I will give the combo a shot, thanks for the tip.
>>558604849Where do you even see the hammer icon on the item?
>>558607558gotta break out your magnifying glass
>>558607558it's fucking microscopic, so just keep an eye on the side tab>>558605031i mean i dont know how to utilize this filter if im trying to quickly dissemble from my 1k items
>>558607839>quicklythere isn't really a quick way besides filter and check all
>>558607612>>558607839Jesus christ, somebody has to convince Team Ninja UX is a thing
Odachi seems utterly fucked, light medium stance hit deals basically same damage as 1 hit from moonlit snow redux, and charged moonlit snow doesnt deal much more than that, and costs entire ki bar.
>>558608492https://youtu.be/xTAyK8Cw5LY?t=359>japan>UX design
is the snake head guy indicative of the quality of nioh 3 as a whole because this has worse hitboxes than $5 russian souls knockoffs
>>558608902you mean the first crucible boss? shit ezmode boss who barely attacks you, not indicative of the rest of the game
>>558608689Yup. Our highest damage attack is that low stance quick attack follow up jump. Bolting Boar doesnt work anymore. All we have now is great reach and hyperarmor. And some new elemental moves that are, admittedly, pretty sweet. Retrograde Flow Water fucks up blocked ki bars and has great range, Groundquake Lightning can proc Lightning in 2 hits (but that endlag is horrifying), and the fire Coockoos Call is pretty damn good at getting Burn applied. But all in all, Odachi lost so much, I am swapping off of it after doing hundreds of hours with it in 2. I am not one of those "muh dps" guys, but the fact that our Active Skills do as much damage as just pressing quick attack is just pitiful. I primarily use Sunset Breeze and Waking Winds to play around, and Moonlit Snow(s) to clear up some HP after a combo. Now I cant even do that.
>>558608689>>558610847Glad to see I'm not the only person noticing
>>558396902>>558396775I think he confused the bat lady with spiders
>70 hours played>only just now killed the Great TenguIt's just too fun to autistmax and craft shit and fiddle with things, and also mindlessly kill human enemies
>>558613936I'm at 79 hours and am at Hiruko(the first). I've just been fucking around trying different weapon combos. It's fun.
>try Hazing some dudes>my character turns towards the parried target and then does the stab to where the enemy was, not where he isLooks fucking retarded to stab the air behind me when the enemy is now behind me
We are past bump limit if anyone has an image worthy of an OP. I just came across some disappointing news, why TN why?
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>>558615153How do I achieve his physique
>>558614994Relax, the restructuring doesn't affect Nioh.
>>558615278Kill Kazyua and become some sort of Electric Wind God
>>558615153Cookies are bullshit and I can't make a thread.>>558615285Huh, weird way to learn about that. Was more referencing build autism that has been deflated like a fake boob.
It just isnt 2. It just isnt running expeditions with the bros during lockdown on retarded amounts of unemployment plus stimmies, plus my boss paying me cash under the table when we could reopen so I could keep getting unemployment. What a game and what a time. Still having fun btw.
is grace of hotei as good as it seems?
>>558617147The stackable recovery doesn't last as long as you think it will
>>558617261damn...
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