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/sthg/ #9092 - Germerl Edition

Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss ALL things Gemerl!

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - 04 March 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 11 March 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 08 April 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 13 May 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 15 December 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
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>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>558429084
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>>558467342
The Chaotix are a financial black hole
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>>558467342
What Vector probably sees in his head
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I haven't watched a single broadcast and i'm yet to find a reason why
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Incredible how Sonic and Shadow are the only characters who many money in this franchise.
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>>558459529
>>558460409
>>558461860
>>558467342
lol she sounds like Professor Victoria doing a slightly different pitch.
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Buddy
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>>558467580
Because they’re the only ones Sonic Team cares to give any cool shit too
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Sheep wife
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The couple that saved the franchise
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>>558468013
*ruined
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>>558467580
>who many money
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>>558468013
Why do Silver fans get mad about this cute and canon ship?
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>>558468013
Silver and his nanny
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Boy franchise
No girls allowed
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>>558467930
You have half a dozen characters you can easily give cool shit to, but they just fumble every time.
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>>558468127
Too much dragon ball root your brain. Those people are watching Jujutsu right now, their fanbase is famous for not knowing how to read
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>>558468241
No they don’t, they just stopped trying
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>>558467812
They both sound like they're the height of an average human mother.
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>>558468183
Girls made them cry so they better behave
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>>558468013
*The coal that destroyed the franchise
FTFY
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>>558468183
Gem post
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>>558468241
They fumbled the most with Sonic and Shadow you know? it's about drive
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>>558468013
it insists upon itself
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>>558468532
Based Knux strikes again
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>>558468183
Based STSKSpilled
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>>558468532
>What does that mean?
>Uhh hmmm I'm just repeating what I heard online
Ok anon. You may leave now
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AMERICANURU BAKA URUSEI, NANDAYO!

BANZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIII *BOOM*
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>>558468775
No he's RIGHT, it insists upon itself because the moment you remove them knowing each other they have no ground to stand on together
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>>558468532
This scene was making fun of pretentious nothingburger criticisms made for the sake of contrarianism thoughever
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>>558468775
see
>>558467037

Like they just have to lie and give the impression its meaningful but it breaks down.
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Douge
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>>558468819
Tails' girlfriend was later raped by numerous American soldiers afterwards but its ok because he died with honor
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>>558467580
>>558467930
That’s what sucks. Sonic Team doesn’t bother giving other characters development because they just want to cash grab off Sonic and Shadow
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>>558469092
Still a legitimate criticism.
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>>558467149
Brash punk with a heart of gold that fights for peace. Hot-headed and goal focused but also innocent. His personality revolves around being straightforward. Constantly rewritten in localizations and American material because ST never explains his character in detail.
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>>558469270
This is what the Japanese actually believe btw
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>>558469270
didn't japan surrender after 2 bombs?
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i wish sonic fangirls were really attracted to me, like how i am really attracted to them
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>>558469649
Yeah. Then there was an occupation. You think that every occupying Allied soldier was nice?
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>>558469270
the twist is she enjoyed being raped
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Fuck night time, i can't sleep.
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>>558469801
She gives birth to no less than three Amerasians and eventually gets taken back to the States as a war bride
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>>558469801
>>558469913
At least one of her sons would later be killed in ‘Nam
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>>558469793
Occupied japan did not experienced war crimes on the same scale as the european front, just occasional stuff that got punished.
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>>558468957
"Insist upon itself" means something is pretentious. Their relationship couldn't be more normal.
But you really want Sega to explain how they met? There is no way Sega can do it well with their track record. Better to let all they did before 06 started to the imagination
>>558469196
The fact that IDW has to go through all the bullshit to elaborate an excuse for them to hang out proofs they are star-crossed lovers. Like what are you even talking about.
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>>558469852
So stay up and play games or something. It's fine to let it happen every now and then.
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>>558467342
But WHO are Germerl and EGGMANN?!
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>>558470089
“According to one estimate, around 5,000 to 10,000 Amerasian babies had been born in Japan from 1945 to 1952.[17]”
I doubt every single one of these were consensual without exception.
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>>558469453
I knew I could identify with Silver as a kid, even through the localization changes.
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Tails in japanese heave watching his girlfriend being railed by muscular american soldiers
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>>558468957
>>558469196
Silver and Blaze are emotional counterbalances to each other. His straightforwardness and purity lets her be more open with him and her stoic calmness helps keep calm. They mirror each other in their goals, sense of justice, skills and roles as guardians of their respective worlds which gives them an inherent compatibility even after they clash in their initial meetings.
>https://sonic-city.net/2023/08/14/sonic-channel-translation-isekai-ogiri-august-2023-what-are-blaze-and-silver-up-to/
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>>558470089
>Occupied japan did not experienced war crimes on the same scale as the european front
This much is true though. Probably because they surrendered pretty quickly after the bombs. Also because the Russians were not nearly as involved with the occupation. Also because the USA was a lot less vengeful towards Japan than the USSR was towards Germany.
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>>558470316
>bunch of soldiers married the locals
>"eh, look at this tiny portion of rapes"
You're like talking to a tranny.
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basically, sex with the japanese
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>>558470602
I was just explaining the joke (or at least the joke as I perceived it). Realistically yeah there weren’t that many rapes because of the reasons explained here: (>>558470550).
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Eggman the Jew watching his german family get raped by hairy russians but at least he wasn't gassed
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Dear diary. Today, I had a bath. The body wash was translucent white lotion that spurts everywhere, so I pretended it was my favorite Sonic character's cum.
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>>558470684
correct
forceful sex and dumping your seed into them as they scream
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>>558470550
>Also because the USA was a lot less vengeful towards Japan than the USSR was towards Germany.
If there are no active battles with troops stressed out to capture an entire nation, then you can't expect much since everyone is more focused on maintaining discipline and image.
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>>558470848
2 words anon
Japanese prostitutes
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Explain how non japs should not be exterminated
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Cream the Rabbit.
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>>558461091
>>558465969
Japanese Sonic is still bilingual I see. In English, he says, "Oh, come on!"
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Dear diary. Last night, I jerked off into the soap.
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>>558470996
Yeah, Sonic's always done that in Japanese since 1990 even
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>>558470976
The Kwantung fuckin’ Army ova here
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Shadow forcefully dumping his seed into my pussy
Interspecies Mating Press Zone
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>>558468957
>remove them knowing each other they have no ground to stand on together
No shit? People need to know each other in order to love each other. Your primitive monkey mind knows no bounds—just tackle, banging ass.
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>>558469852
Fast with us brother
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Forcefully dumping my seed into Krack's pussy...
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Quasimodo predicted all of this.
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>>558471424
Shadow...
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kissing scarcos
sorry
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I-I can be ur Shadow bby gurl....
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>>558471567
Chadzuka…
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>>558464315
>>558465165
i''ve been inspired to think critically
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>>558471698
Based and True
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>>558471124
>since 1990
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Heya I made a Sonic x Boondocks Compilation in the link below! It's 10mins long!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV6DrJUtVpo
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>>558471213
Characters click without the need to make them friends, that's what makes a dynamic, Amy and Blaze are in a good spotlight meanwhile they never showed up together, and the soul reason why Silvaze has this problem is because they're not at their best performance together
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>>558471424
Shadow? You're real?
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Will Sonic have a theme park again?
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>>558471823
oh just what we need, trash + negros. the perfect combination....
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>>558471905
>>558471784
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Say something nice about Whisper.
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Silvazefags still don’t have an answer for why Blaze’s creator has no idea why Blaze was in 06 or why no materials, absolutely none leaked or otherwise indicate Blaze was ever from Silver’s future and in fact the leaked materials even double down on her Rush origins.
You can claim people don’t like in-character Silver, that they don’t accept that 06’s tanabata slop is all there is to his character, but the same is not true for Blaze.
If Sonic Team actually wanted to hardwire her to Silver, why didn’t they after 06 and instead double down and expand on the Sol Dimension in Rush Adventure? Why does she get her own solo spot in Black Knight’s story while Silver’s counterpart is party game fodder?
Why does shilling Silver and Blaze as a pair only start up again during the 2010s when they didn’t know what to do with any of the characters and doubled down on nostalgia pandering?
Silver and Blaze were not intended to become a longterm pair. 06 erases that concept completely and the fact that their basis as a pair in the current era is a side mission in Colors DS says enough about how shoddily put together this relationship is. It was not meant to be. If Blaze didn’t have things to her character, if we didn’t know anything about her dimension and it was as unknown as Silver’s future, I’d be inclined to agree that those are just side material to the main meat that is their relationship.

But that is not the case.
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>>558471745
>vertical wall
i think all walls are vertical. i meant single wall
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>>558472090
Fat
Retarded
Shits herself all the time
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>>558472090
She has boobs
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>>558472090
She's a good food disposer
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>>558471801
Sonic's first appearances were in 1990 while the game was still being developed, this was his first spoken dialogue in SEGA Players Enjoy Club 7 released in November 1990. introducing the character, teasing the original Japanese origin story, and talking about Masato Nakamura's contribution to the soundtrack
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>>558472148
That’s not nice.
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>>558472090
her boobs are almost as big as a sonic fangirl's
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>>558472090
She's got nice boobs
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characters for this feel?
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>>558472212
That is me being nice.
I can do WAY worse.
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>>558472289
Your Mom
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>>558471937
I-I'm kind of like Shadow....
Krack please be my gf...
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>>558471905
>>>/co/
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>>558472134
No it's intended it's just retarded.
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Yeah guys I think I’m gonna boom this Econ 101 exam. It’s so fucking over.
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>gives alcohol to a minor
>with her tits
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>>558471823
I think I saw one of your things on xitter? Kind of a weird mix but got a smirk out of me
>>558471965
This anon gets it, but which is which anon?
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>>558472134
>You can claim people don’t like in-character Silver, that they don’t accept that 06’s tanabata slop is all there is to his character, but the same is not true for Blaze.
It's true for Blaze but with a twist, people barely care about in-character Blaze, that they don't accept her being attached to someone is all there is to her character
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>>558472480
*bomb
Fucking keyboard.
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I think anything past the golden age animation is garbage, including anime and your 90s cartoons.
TV ruined the medium.
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>>558472289
Sonic and Blaze, Tails and Marine
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>>558472517
Minor drinking alcohol or smoking wasn't a big deal in the 90s. Jotaro from part 3 smokes in the manga and anime, even if he's a minor.
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>>558472090
Literally just Fluttershy with a gun
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>>558472289
Dark and light Gaia
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>>558471823
I like you boondocksanon
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>>558472649
This guy isn’t just an Oldhead. He’s an actual Elder Lich tier fossil.
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>>558472752
Prove me wrong
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>>558472465
I don’t think it is otherwise why would they further build up Blaze’s character without Silver? It only came to a halt because of the shitty friends era, that’s it really. Now it’s been so many years, they can barely utilize the core four well let alone other characters, so they rely on heroes team slop to carry what they can’t keep up with.
>>558472590
Twisting my words doesn’t make it true. Silver doesn’t have much, but Blaze factual does and it takes place after 06
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Knock knock, it's your favorite power type Marine.
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The Blazefags and the Silverfags are fighting again…
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>>558472134
They can't explain it of they don't focus on it duh. It's hilarious people complain about Silver and Blaze being together TOO MUCH. What does TOO MUCH mean? A couple of lines as secondary characters in a couple of games and comics and that's it. That's TOO MUCH for some people
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>>558472590
don't open
>>558471779
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>>558472691
it was always a big deal but nobody ever cares, i see people under 18 buying cigs all the time expecially through proxy (they ask some bigger friend to buy stuff for them).
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>>558472987
Why can't they kiss and make up like their characters?
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>>558472869
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>>558472134
>Silver and Blaze were not intended to become a longterm pair.
Idiot
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>>558472973
Marine can blast holes in invincible robots, why's she not a power type?
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>>558472992
If you didn’t focus on it, you wouldn’t come to these threads trying to convince us that this is all there is to their characters. This is just giving me flashbacks to Krack trying to make Shadria be more popular by shitting up the threads with her “evidence”. You’re insecure about your favorite ship and think people hating on it is a personal attack on you.
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>>558472906
>Silver doesn’t have much, but Blaze factual does and it takes place after 06
Meanwhile Silver without Blaze: pic rel
And do i need to remind you of what happened in Archie?
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>>558471507
who?
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>>558473275
I agree other anon! She's a very cool character with mysterious powers, she is most definitely a power type!
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>>558472747
His name is Aurio...
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>>558472987
Since Evan said they were going to get 3 chapters in IDW they got uppity again
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>>558473032
EXACTLY! if Sonic is not around then what is she? what personality can you give her that is not immediately out-of-character?
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>>558473319
>Insecure
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>Get pushed all the time
>Insecure
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>558473328
Uh huh, and how is this relevant to what I was talking about in my other posts? I’m talking about lore, does any of these expand on his lore or his dimension past what we already know? The basis of my comparison is that his future is still unexplored while we have seen Blaze’s world including characters, powered mcguffins and villains. I am not talking about individual numbered appearances.
>archie
I’m not talking about non-canon material either
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I wish I had a friend to draw Sonic smut with so we could trade drawings and giggle like school girls over porn faces and fetishes
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>>558473132
Idk
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What if the sonic movies were made by any of the other big four?
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>>558473775
You can do it on the whiteboard. Just save your drawings and draw the cocks later. Pass the Catbox link later
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>>558472380
You don't want me. Shadow would have better things to do than hang around imageboards.
>>558473319
The evidence was posted because you continually denied it even existed, not to force popularity. You sound insecure yourself.
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>>558473668
How is this different from Krack responding with Shadria pics and going lalala when she couldn’t address legitimate points about shadow and maria being addressed as siblings officially even 20 years back
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>>558472992
"Silver and Blaze are only together a little bit" is bullshit. Silvaze fans want them together all the time, and they want Blaze to revolve entirely around Silver.

And no revolving around Sonic is not the same, that's the purpose of her character >>558471779 If she's the guardian of the Sol Emeralds, they have a metaphysical relationship to the Chaos Emeralds and Sonic. She's his friendly rival; that's her character. Nobody complains about Knuckles "revolving" around Sonic and the Master/ Chaos emeralds because they're rivals. Obviously this because Team Dimension fans want to erase her relationship with Sonic because they don't like it.

Because they aren't actually Blaze fans, only Silvaze fans.
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>>558473775
KINO
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>>558472906
Blaze is a stagnated character anon, she's frozen because she doesn't have anywhere to walk freely without it being lame, if she's not stuck in her dimension and alone with Sonic she can't do much but fuck all that's why they stuffed her in shipbait, the same can never be said about Silver
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>>558465484
>>558470996
Why are there even notable differences in the Japanese transcript? Sega of Japan is barely advertising The Chaotix Casefiles. What, is this a TailsTube situation where a Japanese dub is coming after more more episodes release?
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>>558473946
>Anon outs himself as a Sonazefag
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>>558473903
The evidence in question is all non-official non-game material or subjective opinions on japanese words that can be used in a familial sense. Shippers continue to be blind and delusional for their ship and only accept what’s convenient to them, what’s new
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>>558473906
You lost lol
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>>558473946
>Nobody complains about Knuckles "revolving" around Sonic and the Master/ Chaos emeralds
Oof, welcome newfag
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>>558473903
>>558474176
You guys are both fags. No one cares. Just shut up.
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>>558474176
You sound like an assmad shipper yourself.
Silvaze and Shadaria mog whatever porn ship you love
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>>558473775
Damn, real shit.
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>>558474116
I LOVE THE SMELL OF NAPALM IN THE MORNING!
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Alright time to drop my truth nuke
Every ship is bad, no matter what it is, this series is never build on shipping.
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>>558474176
Aishiteru is usually romantic btw
Not an opinion
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>>558474467
This is actually a lukewarm take
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>>558474049
You can literally just add Blaze to the main cast. Most cast problems are caused by teamshit which Shadow and Silver implicitly bring. Like if Blaze was in Frontiers it would be fine.
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I see they're seething over canon again.
Sonamy, Silvaze, Knuxouge, Shadria, Vectnill, and Tailsmo are all ST approved ships.
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>>558473906
The difference is Maria is ducking dead. And even if she was alive they have to somehow make people believe that a relationship between a human and an animal is a good thing or the fact that they are related by bloody. Sega will always make them look like a platonic thing, never romantic.
Silver and Blaze are a thing since their conception. If their is a ship I would never doubt is them.
>>558473946
What does being a Blazefans mean? Acknowledgeing the fact that Blaze is a boring character? Because she is. Why did people draw those fanarts of Silver and Sage? Because he has MUCH MORE GOIN ON THAN HER. Of course I want them to do more with Blaze, but that's on Sega to give her something besides a dimension I'm supposed to care about for some reason. That makes more of a fan of her than you who is trying to push the Sonic and Blaze parallels that DOESN'T WORK, NOBODY CARES, NOBODY WILL EVER CARES AND ONLY MAKES HER LESS POPULAR AS A RESULT.
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What did he meant by this
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>>558474118
Just for the record
>>558474176
>>558473906
>>558473709
Are me, the sonazefaggot is a different anon and I hate that ship too.
>>558474239
The year is 2026 and barely anyone more than before cares for your ship. What did all that shitting up the threads 2 years ago amount to? Fucking nothing
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>>558474118
cope
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>>558474718
This is what people overseas call a “truth nuclear bomb”
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>>558474794
>the sonazefaggot is a different anon and I hate that ship too
So you’re just an antishipper period? B-B-B-Based!
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>>558474781
You would know if you read the second post he made right after, but the person who took that screenshot decontextualized it intentionally.
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>>558475070
what's the context?
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>>558474780
>Silver and Blaze are a thing since their conception
Factually incorrect. It’s the fact that you have to lie about Blaze to argue at all. The way you talk about her makes it clear that you’re projecting about people hating their real characters when you hate everything else about Blaze’s character that factually has nothing to do with Silver and puts a dent in your ship.
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I love shipping, but Silvaze situation is in expense of what makes them good, which ironically ruins the ship, shipping is only good if you're allowed to imagine not when headcanons bleed into canon
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>>558475176
He's joking/wondering if pairing Silver and Blaze it was a reference to the the book "The of Silver Blaze" by Arthur Conan Doyle.
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>>558475308
>Image
Kek
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>>558475312
What's that book about?
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>>558475176
>>558475312
Wow I completely fucked up my post, sorry.
He's joking/wondering if pairing Silver and Blaze was a reference to the book "The Adventure of Silver Blaze" by Arthur Conan Doyle.
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>>558474780
>what does being a Blazefag mean
"even if you feel alone, remember that someone is always out there helping you"
"even if you want to stay together, you're too different and you belong apart, but that doesn't mean you have to stay seperated forever, and you can look forward to seeing each other again"
"don't take everything on yourself"

I like her tsundere and feisty characterization she lacks around Silver (forced to be cool-headed to his hot-head). I like the metaphysical stuff she has going on with Sonic.
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GOD I want to suck Silver's dick but don't want to self insert as Blaze...
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>>558475460
KEK
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>>558475460
Then self-insert as..... uh....
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>>558475058
Correct, I think shipfaggotry has been a net negative for this franchise in every instance. Nothing will change my mind having seen where it always inevitably leads. There’s a point with every shipper that you can tell it’s no longer about fun or enjoyment and instead a personal attack on them and if the series does not bend to the ship, they go apeshit. Case in point, the byler shit that happened a month or so ago
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>>558474705
no, Blaze cannot be added to the cast without over shadowing Sonics friends, if she's not next to Sonic she'd be a bench warmer like she is now, and i don't know how can you tell her being forces would be good at all? she would most definitely job and do absolutely nothing.
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How long has it been since blueboardanon was here? 20 days? Three weeks?
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Krack do you take commissions?
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>>558475430
I haven't read it myself, but there doesn't seem to be a connection besides the name "Silver Blaze", probably nothing deep to look into. Which is why I said it feels more like a joke, but at the same time, to me it feels like the sort of thing Maekawa may have thought about.
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>>558475680
I miss him...
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>>558475661
>Case in point, the byler shit that happened a month or so ago
Okay Anon I did see this shit and thought it was demented and I genuinely agree with you about shipperfaggotry and associated autism being odious and cancerous, but did you really have to bring up fucking Stranger Things of all things? It’s such a Reddit example and such a Reddit piece of media in general.
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>>558472517
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>>558475460
Luckily for you, Blaze is supposed to be a manly girl. You can imagine her as dude
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>>558475460
You either have the IDW cast or the dudes
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>>558472517
me and my friends always drank and smoke underaged and fucked too
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>>558475674
Nah Blaze can fit right alongside Knuckles, both their characters revolve around Sonic just like Tails and Amy. She's designed to be part of his supporting cast.

Shadow and Silver are the real show-stealers.
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>>558476039
Wow just like everyone. Almost like a lot of possibly even most people break stupid laws.
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Kit!
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>>558475842
It’s one of the most recent and most generally noted examples as of late. It gets the point across, but it is very reddit
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>>558471745
im having fun
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>>558475674
>>558474705
>Every character should be all about Sonic
>Whenever Sonic is not on the screen they must ask "where is Sonic?" every time
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Say something nice about Katella.
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>>558476189
Drugs and Alcohol are bad
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>>558476189
Very true. Very silly laws for sure.
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>>558476189
>everyone
The current generation dont do such things.
When I met a high school friend last years there were a few younger ones there, and they complained because I was smoking.
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>>558475732
Idk. I've only done a few in my lifetime.
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>>558476447
This is a Sonic franchise and world and we all just live in it, even the Chaotix detective audio thingy has to have Sonic in it just to keep it on-brand.
>>558476189
Something something Chesterton's Fence.
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>>558476441
Sonic can make his quills hard. He should be able to glue himself to a wall by pressing a button
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>>558476119
The moment she's next to Knuckles she made him job the hardest in his entire life to make sure she has the guardian and Sonic opposite spot, she also has both Sonics love interest and Sonics right hand spots that's why Tails and Amy got sidelined (even making Cream her sidekick) in her first introduction, no anon the only way for Blaze to fit in the cast is if you usurp everything from her and just turn her into girl n°2, else you need to remove one of Sonics friends for just one quirk for her
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>>558475753
dead forever
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>>558475674
I don’t think Blaze should be added to the cast, she should be a character we tune into once in a blue moon. Let her go back to her dimension. The way they have Knuckles locked up to the emerald is what they need to swap to Blaze
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>>558476671
I love this attack so much
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>>558467553
Why are all the Sonic females better fat?
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bobbutterbutt is probably the strangest kitfag I’ve ever seen.
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>shitazefag mad she needs to leech off a hedgehog to survive and got the worst one
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>>558476790
Surge and Sonic love each other.
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>>558476752
>she should be a character we tune into once in a blue moon
Even less? She is already relegated to spin offs only. You guys actually hate the characters I swear
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>>558476447
Nigga the franchise is called "Sonic the Hedgehog" of course the characters who actually matter should be the ones who have a primary connection to Sonic, which includes Blaze.
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>>558476916
Animalistic traits are cool
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>>558476872
No kidding, most kitfags have blocked me because they have thin skins.
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>>558476894
I don't see her with Shadow.
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>>558475661
Cloutfaggotry and powerfaggotry are hardly better.
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>>558477052
You're not a real Sonic fan if you aren't blocked by over 5,000 Sonic fans on Xitter like I am.
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>>558477189
True, so many shitty RP accounts.
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>>558476872
They're strange but I can almost admire their autism.
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>>558477147
I do
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>>558476119
>and Silver
Don’t make me laugh
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:D
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>>558477052
>the ((tanuki)) blocked by 109 accounts says
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using the computer in a Rez-like fashion
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>>558476628
Imagine being a Mobian male having to climb that mountain.
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>>558476894
How in the fuck does she leech off Silver? He has nothing.
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>>558475680
I was getting sick of his attention whoring ass anyway
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>>558477164
Scaling faggotry doesn’t make shipfaggotry any less bad, fuck off with this
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>>558477386
Not a tsundere btw.
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I should have realized this but people who don't like Blaze with Sonic simply don't understand the franchise and Sonic as The Wind.
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>>558477052
>they have thin skins
What did you do?
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>>558474705
Blaze would require more bs to justify than Knuckles.
She is the princess of an empire in another dimension. The Sol Emeralds were supposed to be reserved fot her dimension otherwise it would cause a catastrophic but we pretend that isnt a thing now as is so she can show up.
Once she shows up, we have to ask why she isnt just going Burning and instagibbing everything.
Blaze has problems intrinsic to her character that keep her from being used.
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The Chaotix case files were made 2 years ago
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Shadow is not a tsundere. He means what he says.
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>>558477665
>2 years for audio only stories
what
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Blaze x Knuckles
Rouge x Silver
Amy x Tails
Cream x Shadow
Vanilla x Sonic
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>>558475437
Blaze hasn't been that since the end of Rush. Whole point of that was her ice queen complex getting defrosted.
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>>558477643
That actually doesn't matter. The Sol Emeralds are only dangerous when out of control or in Sonic's world. Just like don't have the Sol Emeralds there.
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>>558477643
This is a curious argument about Blaze. Why do we have to find a justification for Blaze instead of just making another story set in her world?
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>>558476827
Because they're all sticks
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>>558477732
Pushed back for the 35 anniversary probably
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>>558477484
When did I say it did?
I hate shipfaggottry more than you. I'm just calling you out on this double standard. It's frankly worse.
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>>558477632
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>>558477732
Things take time to make and for marketing plans to align
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^-^
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You're overthinking this, once everyone likes what you hate, you'll turn around, and it's not hard for aura and autism fans to be pleased
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>>558477820
>Blaze hasn't been that since the end of Rush
That Blaze still exists in Rush Adventure
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>>558477820
Nah she's still somewhat like that. Nobody in Sonic truly develops, you know that. Otherwise Tails would be brave by now.
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sonic team does whatever they want to justify a character showing up. you all care more than they do about these things
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>>558477297
cute
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>>558478085
Blaze in rush adventure is the unsocial angry one. literally a Knuckles but elegant rather then brute
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Why did the Silver aura campaign fail so hard
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>>558477851
Then why did Blaze have to go home at the end of Rush.

You also ignored 80% of the post.
We saw how IDW had to write Blaze out of the story multiple times just to keep the stakes or plotline in tact.

Blaze as a character is mostly likes for powerfagging reasons anyway.
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>>558478147
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>>558478227
This is almost verbatim what Knuckles said in Frontiers. She can kust show up. Drop some throwaway idle barks "I hope Marine and Gardon are doing okay" "I hope Nega doesn't attack while I'm gone"
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>>558478069
Yay!
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>>558477909
Im fine with another story in her world. I think thats how it should be done with her.
But that is different than saying you can just add her to the cast. She doesnt fit in at all. She turns into a writing vacuum.
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>>558478339
>Blaze as a character is mostly likes for powerfagging reasons anyway
She is? Everyone agrees she is slower than Sonic and Shadow
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>>558478296
Fail? it made everyone wants to see him, have you seen these frontiers 2 posters? why is Silver always there?
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>>558478147
MOMMY
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>>558478546
They agree she's as fast as them with heels, meaning she's faster than them.
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>>558477970
There’s no double standard to call me out on when it wasn’t part of the conversation to begin with. I shit on the shipfaggots because they regularly stir shit here specifically because they think imprinting on the general means the can change the dominant opinion of the fanbase for some reason. If scalingfags get to the same level of obnoxious faggotry here in this general specifically, I’ll call it out
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>>558478227
These shitty explanations and misuse of characters are the reason people asked for Sonic to be alone in the games. Genuinely painful to read
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>>558478339
The relationship between the emeralds is allegorical for Sonic and Blaze but you can just treat them as plot devices and it's still fine.
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>>558478085
Why? Because she yelled at Marine? How is that feisty and tsundere?
Blaze is chilled out in Rush Adventure. As she logically should after the first game.
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>>558478153
Even all the spi offs have her more chill than Rush. What are you talking about.
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If you hate shipping you hate sonic and krack
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>>558479000
trips of truth
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I think most surge/kitfags just insist upon themselves. Tomii is probably the most normal one.
https://youtu.be/DbsgQrEzbv4?si=W58IHazSqSrwIZav
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What's her JP personality?
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>>558478835
Blaze is chilled out to those she knows, but still goes off at people who she’s less familiar with. Like some kind of cat or something…
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>>558478227
Its called context.
Having her as a cameo npc in a game scenario that wasnt taken seriously by anyone isnt the same.
Frontiers expects you to take the stakes seriously.
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>>558478153
>Nobody in Sonic truly develops
>She does
>It doesn't count!
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>>558479000
>shipping characters that are canonically underaged
brother ew
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Why is he in Sonic Superstars
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>>558478693
Blaze is slightly slower than Sonic (and Shadow by extension). Play Rush, her top speed is slower than Sonic's. It's especially noticeable during the parts where Blaze's fire boost and Sonic's super boost are required on a downhill incline.
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>>558478549
Yeah there's a surprisingly lots of Sonic eclipse fan covers featuring Silver even as a Silverfag i see that as the worst move possible since they need to ride the high and bringing element from 06 is the last option
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>>558478835
>>558478982
https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2021/11/06/sonic-channel-wallpaper-cover-story-sonic-blaze-november-2021/
>Sonic welcomed these small changes in Blaze with a happy heart, but…
>“Oh, wait, Sonic. I mean, you know…”
>Suddenly addressed by Blaze, Sonic turned around, surprised by the rare occurrence. Blaze added, looking away,
>“Even if it’s you, I can’t do that all the time, you know.”
>Blaze’s core remained unchanged… Sonic welcomed that noble, earnest seriousness—the refusal to let anyone easily into her heart—with even greater warmth.
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>>558478506
kinda expected vanilla but didn't expect gemerl to get a voice
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>>558478546
Most fans of blaze would disappear if thr sol emeralds and her Burning form got reconnect away to make her more accessible.
They literally think those are more important than her dimension and being a princess.
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>>558478296
The Silver agenda is at its best, and we are gonna keep pushing it until he gets in the movies
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>>558478762
The entire reason you push this forced "she's a rival muh emeralds" thing is for that very reason. It's just a way to hedge the character as more important and deserving of shilling than she is.
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Explaining to Silvazefags once again that Blaze's relationship with Silver is atypical because of their wholesome chungus relationship and because Blaze is often forced into a cool-headed role to counterbalance Silver.
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>>558479450
Canon.
The Robotniks are jewish if they had colored hair/eyes
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>>558478824
What's the allegory? I question if you know what an allegory is.
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>>558479569
Oh my god you’re confusing me with the sonazefag. I’ve mentioned nothing about the emeralds or her being a rival
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>>558479363
>the Sol Emeralds aren't important
>the Master Emerald isn't important
>Maris isn't important
>blue skies aren't important
>Eggmanland isn't important
fucking retard
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>>558478527
:3
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>>558479828
Why are men like this?
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>>558479083
Tsundere and yankee
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>>558479601
It is like Blaze is cold headed....woah
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>>558479805
> Maris isn't important
Well not since she fled to her family's private island to avoid extradition
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>>558479720
The emeralds and their relationship are allegorical for Sonic and Blaze themselves. They beat you over the head with this pretty hard in Rush, very hard to miss.
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Do the people who are sexually attracted to Silver like his "I'll show you how crazy I am!" Personality more or his "Uuuu, I pissed the bed again..." one?
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The mere concept of a tsundere ruins Surge's story
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>>558480095
Depends on the sex
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>>558479964
yep I was right >>558477525

Sonic is the cool-headed one, Blaze is the hotheaded one. Duh.
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>>558476573
Zoomers are pussies that won't even get drunk because they think it'll kill them or they won't have any self control and crash a car into a crowd of babies that's why.
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>>558479083
Amy's rival
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>>558476573
this is true
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>>558480186
We have like...3 characters like that before Blaze
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>>558480217
Love rival. Deredere vs tsundere.
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>>558479257
Read your own post, anon. Its talking about her being closeted and adverse to letting people in.
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Stop trying to make Surge a tsundere
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>>558480375
Yessir
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>>558468183
A fat Chinese girl made that artwork btw
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>>558476582
What do you charge? I'm supposed to be getting a bunch of money soon. I want to commission art of my waifu from a bunch of randoms. I always enjoyed bullying you so it's the least I could do.
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>>558480504
She sound based.
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>>558480095
I like how Evan explained she has both personalities depending on the situation. The real reason why I like him is his sad backstory anyways, so regardless of what side it is shown more or less, I want his story to be sad if he ever gets a game with more focus.
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the fandom perception of Blaze is so fucked up they don't even know how she's supposed to work or what she's about and suggesting that Blaze actually be used for her intended purpose from her debut game and shown in her character profile makes you a Sonazefag who wants to glue her to Sonic in the "Sonic the Hedgehog" franchise
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>>558477525
CD Sonic was the most wind-like out of all of them. Having him wide eyed and all smiles was a mistake.
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>>558480048
>avoiding giving an actual answer.
The relationship between Sonic and Blaze is more shallow than a kiddy pool. The "allegory" is just that she had em. That's it. There's no deeper dynamic or symbolism.
Blaze is just Knuckles again but less symbolically potent.
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>>558480472
>Stop trying to make Surge a tsundere
It gives her own niche as to not step on shadow and jet's toes, especially since the latter's also green.
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>>558480724
Tsundere is a stupid trope
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>>558480380
see >>558479601
again Blaze is just mischaracterized often because her relationship with Silver and Sonic are opposites and they bleed into each other

I mean shit she's even feisty with Silver at first
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>>558480583
Blaze has more chemistry with Sonic than she ever will with Silver

Also, the Sol Dimension needs to go expanded upon
And I want to see Gardon and Marine more
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>>558480561
Same desu.
I kinda want a game that focuses on his dismally bleak future.
He only sees the other characters in the past, who are oblivious to it. To highlight just how alone his struggle is.
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>>558480678
This is Sonic and Blaze’s relationship.
https://youtu.be/PXM08-GyucQ
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>>558480678
You're media illiterate, sorry champ.

Maybe try Boruto?
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>>558480789
You're a stupid trope.
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Blaze B.06 and A.06. The state of Blaze is christlike
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>>558480583
Blaze had no deep intentions. She was written as a one off but was popular enough she got a sequel game. A sequel game she isn't even on the box of.
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>>558480095
I dont care really about his personality
I want to be tangled by his quills and cum on his chest fur, thats what I care about
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What is up with Cream's voice in the drama?
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>>558481016
>royal/ divine
>sacrificed herself
hmmm
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>>558480561
>>558480850
Finally some real Silver fans
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Blaze’s a temperamental kuutsun.
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Kino pair
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>>558481016
Why is everyone a jesus christ figure?
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>>558480861
This didnt even happen in Rush. Blaze was mostly won over by Amy and especially Cream.
Sonic just comes in on 1 boss fight and humbles her.
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>>558475883
>Luckily for you, Blaze is supposed to be a manly girl. You can imagine her as dude
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>>558481086
Silvers debut game doesn’t include him on the boxart
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>>558481350
Christian franchise.
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Sonic can say Nigger
Not because he's black
But because he's the wind
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>>558479794
I said nothing about shipping or sonaze. I know who im talking to.
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Sonic can say Nigger
Not because he's black
But because he has tourettes
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>>558481550
Off-model
Gimme the plank
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>>558480943
Beautiful...
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>>558481550
>off model Blaze
you don't like her
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>>558481440
Idgaf about Shitver. He's only liked because he is a hedgehog with a superform.
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>>558481546
You don’t because you’re talking about messages I didn’t make while the sonazefag has been ranting off about Sonic’s relation to Blaze and other shit like that
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>>558481580
Sonic dislikes black aliens. But loves black niggas.
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>>558481716
>he's only liked because [cope]
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>>558476441
might as well keep going
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>>558481256
Fan art from the days of Imposter Syndrome have a pretty unique take on Starline compared to nowadays. Almost like it’s saying he shouldn’t have tried to play God or something.
https://youtu.be/KNl_Wpb-l_8?si=blstT4Co3i3OSOC3
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>>558481737
>ranting about [canon]
wow how awful

refute anything I've ever said then, bitch
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Sonic's a hedgehog.
He has been voiced by every race on earth.
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You know, when I actually go outside and talk to people, it's much more manageable than communicating here
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>>558481743
Sonic is a bad influence for Chip
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>>558482068
Okay. Sorry.

This franchise keeps making stupid mistakes.
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>>558481634
Yep
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>>558482068
The opposite for me
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>>558476671
smash isn't canon
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>>558482068
Just told my neighbor that Blaze HAS to be Silver's hallucination in 06, it just makes sense!
She could not refute my claim so I win.
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>>558482068
>going outside
No, people are scary.
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>>558481861
>pic
@yyxhn_axu
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>>558481879
Delusional shipfaggot. It is true that Blaze’s world runs parallel to Sonic’s, but you over-inflate Sonic’s importance to her while downplaying the other friendships she has and mattered throughout the game. Sonazefags are not interested in seeing her character as much as they pretend to be better for liking Rush, you just have an agenda to shackle her down to another hedgehog. Being parallel to Sonic loses this meaning when she just get stuck in the same world as him and is suddenly no different than his many rival that already exist naturally on his world.
Let her exist in her world fulfilling her duties instead of being tugged around by hedgehogs
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Dynamic Duo
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I-Im going to slander you. Y-You baka armadillo
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>>558467342
Why the comments turned off in this episode?
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I genuinely don't understand how people struggle to understand or reject the Sol Dimension as a basic "negative parallel dimension" trope when we have creator interviews stating this and there is literally a character called "Eggman Nega". Even Flynn struggles with this. Like what does Blaze need to look like Sonic with a leather jacket? It's stupid.
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>>558482510
maybe you're the problem
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>>558467342
What material is Rouge's clothes made out of? I always assumed it was latex.
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>>558482794
Silver stole Eggman Nega by the way
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>>558479941
>Why do men like their lobster buttery and steak juicy?

Just say you’re weak.
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>>558483006
And knuckles stole iblis big deal
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>>558482794
>Blaze: has a role sort of like the combination of Knuckles and Sonic (with a pinch of Tails)
>Eggman: Nega.
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>>558482926
Human baby foreskin.
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>>558482873
I accept that. I try to leave any mandatory social engagements as flat yet respectful so that I can return home as quickly as possible. Emotional connection only opens you to pain.
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>>558482794
Because it looks nothing like a parallel universe and because the Sol dimensions is gay and lame
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>>558482676
I think everyone should revolve around Sonic in a flat cast structure like Adventure 1, actually. If stuff happens in the Sol Dimension then I like the Rush Adventure cast. Anything more than that is degenerate.
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>>558482794
Eggman Nega is not from the sol dimension after rivals. Any confusion is because of that
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06 blatantly ignores the mechanics of Sonic and Blaze’s inter-dimensional relationship anyway. If the Emeralds sense danger for the other, they bring those two together so that they can support one another to prevent tragedy. She had no business in Sonic’s future, where he’s not present.
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>>558482662
>June, 2025
Ah. Still tho, before it was hinted at in #80, it’s pretty interesting to see Starline see for himself the unintended consequences of what he created.
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>>558483193
A part of me wonders if that description was a placeholder
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>>558483261
you sound like an anime character
and i don't mean that in a good way
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Roojamy
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>>558483397
how cute is his butthole?
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>>558482926
I never cared for this artist.
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>>558483516
Loophole: Eggman Nega was never once stated to be from the Sol Dimension, you all just hallucinated it
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>>558483606
That’s fine, it wasn’t intentional but I can see how you’d read it as such. It’s simply how I’ve rationalized my situation, which is fine. I’m not hurting anyone.
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>>558483667
I hope you get AIDS tranny
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>>558483540
We have never seen both the start and end of Silver and Blaze's typical star-crossed lovers shtick play out. Like it's completely undefined. It's not even clear how, what, or why she "sacrificed herself" in 06.
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>>558483540
There's no reason why it would be Sonic at all, she comes when danger is on the other side nonetheless she's not stuck to only him, maybe even the master emerald could be in danger and now you can make the argument that her and Knuckles have an inter-dimensional relationship
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>>558483516
But Japan doesn't acknowledge Rivals ergo those game don't matter.
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>>558483279
>Because it looks nothing like a parallel universe
Because the point is to be opposite, dumbass.
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>>558482676
Holy based. I apologize for the confusion.
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>>558483516
>>558483831
Eggman nega just lied for the keks, what do get from someone who wants destruction if not chaos and confusion as well?
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>But Japan doesn't acknowledge Rivals ergo those game don't matter.
Then why did Shadow Gens acknowledged Rivals?
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>>558483901
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>>558483604
>light years in the future
Star Wars franchise
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>>558482376
Same
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The name "Eggman Nega" implies awareness of Eggman that wouldn't make any sense if he was from the sol dimension
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>>558483981
It's so "opposite" it looks like some random place on earth
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>>558484158
Spoken like a true pedophile
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>>558484176
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>>558484201
I seriously doubt Sonic lore takes itself that seriously
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>>558480523
I can't promise anything, but I am curious about what you'd hypothetically request. Who's your waifu?
I have no set prices at the moment since I don't know what my art is worth, but I trend towards undercharging. I haggled a commissioner once until they agreed to pay me less.
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>>558484138
Cause Sega of America were responsible for the Journal. Hell, Evan Stanley did all the art.

Notice how I said "Japan". They couldn't even be assed to translate the Rivals games for Japan and (unless there is Sonic franchise tier legal issues) I take that as them not giving a shit.
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>>558484201
Better question is if he is from the Sol Dimension and it’s the Nega-Dimension then why the fuck is he the only person whose name references this? And what does this imply? Are the inhabitants of the Sol Dimension aware that they are in a polar opposite mirror dimension relative to another dimension even before Sonic Rush? If so, how? Also, how does this impact how they see the world?
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Eggman Nega is more interesting as Eggman's descendant. The only people that disagree are the blazefags using Nega as a crutch for connecting her to Sonic.
It never made sense why Nega is a recolor while Blaze is not also.
At least as a descendant, we have a reason for the resemblance
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>>558483972
All his profiles and characterization since have pointed to disgruntled descendant being the preferred version, probably because Iizuka wrote Rivals.
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>>558484201
It also doesn't make sense Eggman gets a completely similar clone while Blaze is totally different from Sonic.
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Eggman Nega debuted in Japan in the Olympic Games and on Sonic Channel with his future backstory but he still has his motivation to destroy the world and still Blaze's antagonist BUT ALSO he has motivation to redeem the Robotnik name.

This is an allegory for Iizuka being retarded.
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>>558484510
Eggman fucks.
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>>558483680
It's extremely cute just like the rest of his body.
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>>558483667
sexy
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>>558484305
Sonic is one of those franchises where the fans overthink what the writers likely intended. The whole introductory game was about dual world parallels, there’s no reason to think Egg Nega was some kind of exception to that.
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Most Sonic characters follow a somewhat generic trope, even if they are not defined by said trope. You've got the girly overbearing love interest, the nerdy sidekick, the dark traumatized anti-hero.

What character tropes is the Sonic series missing that you would like to see in a major character?
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>>558484595
There is nothing wrong with any of that.
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>>558483667
Based... so fvcking zased...
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Who would like to see Amy Rose get raped by a dog?
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Espio to every anon itt
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>>558484767
Oujidere
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>>558484980
Why didn't they give him his heart chest?
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Why are we discussing Eggman Nega? He is more or less dead (literally in some interpretations).
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>>558484828
*Amy and her harem
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>>558485057
the show's quality was never consistent(ly good)
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"Why are people confused" because of what you just described
>Eggman Nega is a negative eggman
>Blaze is an entirely different character instead of just a negative Sonic
No shit the intention flies over fans heads. Especially since it's later revealed Nega isn't even from here.
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>>558485117
I mean yeah this franchise is fucking retarded.
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>>558484828
>>558485107
*Rouge’s Groupies
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>>558485117
Sonic Team themselves have never once tried to reconcile these gaps, so it’s not the fan’s fault for being confused.
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>>558485338
Rouge loves grooming younger women to employ them at her club
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>>558467812
That does explain why I want to put things in both their mouths
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Maybe the sol dimension is poorly thought out and Sonic Team doesn't care about it
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>>558485338
>>558485501
>>558484961
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>>558483604
It's tweaked from the leaked 2006 doc, which said Blaze wears a cloak due to being self-conscious about her chest size (which is where all that fan art comes from). They turned it into bullying and suspicion due to her flame powers in the final. Then they just dropped the cloak altogether. Probably it was removed from Rush to keep her clothing physics simpler, then 2006 removed it too.
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>>558485783
>OG script would have canonically given Blaze breast envy
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
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>>558485892
An overused gag?
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>>558485596
Maybe the Sol Dimension has barely been developed and has room to be expanded upon like how Chaos's true origin was in Frontiers fbofw

Expanding on the Babylonians' connection to the Sol world would be a good fuckin start
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>>558484595
I can't believe this one dude is a main villain in four games straight and yet Silver and Blaze never face him together.
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>>558485596
>Maybe the sol dimension is poorly thought out
Just like everything else Sonic Team does

>Sonic Team doesn't care about it
Correct. The Deadly Six matter more than Silver or Blaze's dimension shit
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>adult
>zero friends
>rejected by her crushes
>hangs out with a 12 year old
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>>558486000
Look at Mister No-fun here
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>>558483667
>>558484961
>>558485501
Blazamy>>>>>>>>
Rouge is for Shadow
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>>558484624
Not necessarily if Sage is Eggman's "daughter" then...
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>>558486161
Solution: Threesome.
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>>558486258
If Nega is AI then he's not much of a 'hollow'-gram.
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>>558486319
>I MAY BE A MURDERER BUT AT LEAST I'M NOT A BIGOT
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>>558486330
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>>558486117
literally me
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>>558486470
L O L
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>>558486319
>>558486410
I mean
Dexter didn't rape people
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>>558486161
>implying
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>>558486410
Just like the Joker!
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>>558486117
>adult
Yep.
>zero friends
Yep.
>rejected by her crushes
His, but don't have those anymore.
>hangs out with a 12 year old
Nope.
3/4, Rouge would understand me.
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>>558472712
shove glass up your ass
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Tails' favourite car is Lotus Super Seven
Sonic's fav is Countach
>Wade's fav is also Countach
Amy has her living fucking car

Do we know what's Shadow's bike based on?
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>>558486583
>>558486319
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>>558485057
The designs for the Chaotix in X are based off their models in Heroes. Espio's Heroes model doesn't have the heart crest.
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>>558486579
GOD I WISH I WERE VANILLA HERE. I WOULD PAY MY LIFE'S SAVINGS ($0) TO BE SERVED BY SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG IN A BUNNY SUIT. IT MAKES MY PUSSY VERY HAPPY.
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Does Sonic like being held like this?
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>>558486561
He should have.
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>>558486396
Bratty fox :anger:
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>>558486916
He should.
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>>558486052
Based.
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>>558486396
What’s the male equivalent of a mesugaki?
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>>558487110
Shitverfags find this cool
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>>558486914
Stupid Sega, just let me play as them already!
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>>558487106
Mesugaki is inherently gender-neutral. You likely only see it referred to girls.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuN6gs0AJls
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>>558487032
CHADVOK-SAMA… I KNEEL…
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Which girl doesnt get enough art
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>>558487152
Taste is like limbs
Not everyone has them
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>>558487247
>cuz I’m alone in the city with you
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>>558487463
Sticks
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The slander backfired
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>>558487463
Trip
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>>558487330
… BY KNEEL! I MEAN TO PUT MY BACK INTO PICKING UP ZAVOK, CARRYING HIM IN MY ARMS
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>>558484510
Was Rivals Iizuka's ESL exercise?
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Was playing around with AI and made this.
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>>558487463
She has nothing
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>>558487667
Yes.
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>>558487683
You have shit tastes, and I'm not talking about ai
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>>558487463
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>>558487839
Coony
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>>558487683
mmm pudgy freckled Amy
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>>558487463
Collie Chang
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>>558487463
Marine
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>>558487814
Whatever, bro.
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>>558487667
He most likely wrote it in Japanese.
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Okay, /sthg/. This one is gonna be the big one, since know she’s a very polarizing character. What is the verdict on Amy?
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>>558488070
She alright.
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>>558487252
>Dude has to balance both Sonic and Godzilla's autistic bullshit
I almost feel sorry, almost.
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>>558488070
Cute hogger.
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>>558488070
*Since I know she’s a very polarizing character
God fucking damn it
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>>558488070
Really boring .Not interesting at all. I hate female characters who just automatically fall in love with the hero for no reason. Sonic is more interesting with Surge.
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>>558488070
She's okay, I do think she stepped outside of her role as fanatic love interest and is too involved in the action.
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>>558488070
Cute and cool.
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>>558488258
This. Sonurge is much more fascinating than Sonamy.
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>>558486790
The people who try to use this panel as an example have no idea why the Joker is refusing to work with the Red Skull. Answer: This is an elseworlds story.

Imagine believing the current version of Joker wouldn't work with nazis. He's done far worst.
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>>558488291
>Amy took futacock
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>>558488291
DIANAFAG…YOU’RE BACK…
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>>558488308
Yeah a woman drew this
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>>558488337
He did work with Nazis. In The Dark Knight Returns, his main henchwoman and top enforcer is a female Neo-Nazi skinhead called “Bruno”.
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>>558488380
Literally who
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>>558488070
She's fine.
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The non humans mandate is from soa not soj
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>>558488337
I don't know, it strikes me as the sort of idiosyncratic thing Joker would get hung up about. It's not exactly hard to find people who are similar in attitude where they're okay with X Y but cannot abide Z.
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>>558488420
no, the tweet said it was a little brother
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>>558488529
Proof?
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>>558487239
Doesn't mesu mean female?
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>>558488070
She looks better in green.
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>>558488067
If so, there's strangely no translation credit for these games (though he was cowriting in the second game).
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>>558488510
Oh you’re just an Amyfag. Now I’m disappointed. Dianafag was a funny shitposter.
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>>558488276
What is wrong with Amy being in the action? She has a hammer.
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Oh, it's just amytroon
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>>558488573
I think it depends entirely on his whims. Sometimes he might do it, other times he’d pearl clutch about it randomly. Just like anything with Joker, it’s erratic and based on whim. The only consistent thing about Joker is his obsessive hatred of Batman. Almost everything else can change at the drop of a hat.
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Your favorite Sonic character
Your favorite dinosaur
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>>558488643
Interesting.

I've seen claims that the game can be played in Japanese if you change the system's language (which is how Rush and 2006 also handle language selection), but I could find no videos showing that and see Japanese fans translate the game themselves instead so idk
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>>558488792
Oh certainly, it's just one of those things that I can completely understand him doing.
>>558488826
Robotnik
T-Rex
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>>558488643
*codirecting in the first
Though if there is master Japanese script lying around, hopefully it isn't lost media if Sega ever rereleases these games.
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>>558488612
>"mesu" is the kanji for feral female ANIMAL
This language, I fucking swear. I thought it was just rotten or unhinged kid.

>>558488765
Because her other traits get drowned out by it. Amy is meant to be the starstruck love interest that is just always inexplicably where the action is. She's supposed to be the damsel.
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>>558488070
I like her
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>>558488775
Hi Krack!
Long time no see.
https://youtu.be/EQ2c0obWZzg
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>>558489093
Not your boogeyman + ywnbaw
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>>558488643
>>558488971
There are a few "localization" credits in Rivals 2, but that's on the Sega Europe side.
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>>558488926
You're asked to have Lanolin as a character in a Sonic storyline
BUT
> She's not nor was never part of the Restoration/Diamond Cutters
> She's a farm girl
> She still has a bitchy personality
> Sonic has to be a major part of the plot
What do you do?
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>>558481851
well that was fun to think about but im bored now.
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>>558489006
Her whole arc in sa1 was her growing out of being a damsel though.
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M̷̮̓͆̿̾̑̃̾̈̏̌͑̒̕̕͝͠ī̴̢͔̮͔͙̥̯͕̥̣̞͖̮̘̞̩̋͗̐́̀̀͒̈́͊̽́͑̈́̈́̊́͂̽̊̓͘m̶̡̨̡̛̫̪̙͖͖̻͚͓̻͎͔̮̯̝̘͇̌͛͋͑͆̌͋̃̄̄̈́́̉̓̂̂̽̈́̓̐̊̚͘i̶̢̘͍͉͎̮̖̦͓͙̟̩̣̳̺͖͕̗̽́̽̀̎̂͜c̵̗͕̫̼͖̙͕̟͍͈͓̜̺͚̝͍̠̙̗͕͍̬̼͋͑̿̄̿̿͝͠͝ ̸̛̛̛̬̠͙̣͇̜̻͆͊̽͌̀̐̂͐́̋̓͊́̆͆͂͋̽̈́͑͘̕t̷̡̨̨̙̻͓̻̟̙̦͓̹̺̺̳̫̤̔͆̈́͂̇̓͌͜ͅh̴͈̤̦̝͎̝̩̞̹͎͕̹̤͋͑̊̎̔͆̀̇̋͐e̷̛͉̹̠͔̖̗̭͕̟͖͍̗̝̫͈͕̹̹̠̩͔̼̰̳͆̂̌͆͐̇̾̈́̓͐̐̕͝ ̴̫̤̎̄̑̐͌͋͆́̌̕͘ŏ̷̧̨̡͉̦̬͖̝̳̘̘̱̬̥̦̮̙̠͓͎̙̺͊̿̾͗̑̔̒̓c̴̛͖̝̻̦͕̼̳͈̒̈̃̉̒̉͂̔͑̎͋̕͝ţ̵̡̛̛̛͎̻̘̺̟̱͈̘̬͈̞̟͇̗̮͓͍̼̯̋͂̽̓͑͐̊̓́̓͛̃͂͋̐͌͜͜͝͝͠ͅͅo̶̧̪̝͎͔͚̜̞͇͚̰͖͍̹̮̐̋̋̄̿̍́̕͝ͅṗ̷̡̡͙͈̥̟̪̤̻͕̥̖͉͕͋̈́̓̈́̑̂̀̀̔̑̂̑̆͊̇̃͜͜͝ů̵̧̠̖͎̮̪̞̊͛̑̈́s̸̨̡̡̛̳̮͍̺̫̬̩̳̪͍̻̖̠͒̈́̆͆̇̈́͐̊ ̵̢̤̝̩̟̖̪̦͔̣̪̞̠̩̜̗̮̟̈͜h̴̛͉̫̼̖̜̭͇̳̟̺̼̫̗̍̊̉̍̂͊͐̓̃̎̈́͑͛̓͐̚͜͠ạ̸̛̫̭̤̟̺̺͚̟͗̄̔͌͆́̃́̐͠s̶͓̬̀̄̾́̌́͒͛̇́͆͆̀͌̒̏͝ ̶̡̛̰̺̙̖̐́̂̓̓̋͗̓͗͂̾̏̓̌̓͗̋͌͋̕͘a̵̡̡͌̈́͛́̋̄̿̄̽͋́̀̋͐̒̔͝r̷͇͖̄͌̌̽̀́̎̿́̿́̓̋̌͊̌̀̕͝ŗ̷̨̡̢̨̜̻̗͔͚̺̺̭̫̺͎̮̦̟͈̖͕̺͍̏̆̚͜į̴̖̘͕͔͇̗̫̻͖͉̳̣̟͍̬̤͔̞̻͙͕̑͜v̸̧̢͍͖͎̙̱̭͚̔͐̏̈́̎̈̎̍̀̍̕͜͜ê̸̢͖̭̬͎̫͇̯̤͇͔̊̊̽̋̀̑d̵̡̧̧̡̛̙̞̥͍̙̪̫̯̜̠̥͈̙̜͎͚̩̦̤̺̺̣̀̊͗͑̀̄́́̎̿̊͗̈́̿̃̐̈̾̀̕̚̕͠͠
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>>558489093
“This isn’t about us.”
-Alan Grant
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>>558489225
And I think she was ill-served for it in the long run.
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>>558488582
Seems like it was drawn for a little brother
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>>558476676
>>558476119
Blaze is the ideal Core #5 member, but ONLY when Tails, Amy & Knuckles are properly solidified in their own roles as #2, #3 and #4 ABOVE her, first.
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>>558489263
Mmmwhat? Say that again?
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>>558489263
Oh hey Zalgo. Long time no see.
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>>558489276
Jurassic World 3 on sthg?
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>>558489120
Not sure who is whose boogeyman now.
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>>558489408
It felt appropriate.
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>>558488070
Should be the only supporting cast member desu. She greases the wheels of lots of stories and is pound for pound more valuable than Tails and Knuckles.

>>558488276
She works better as a support.
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>>558489405
H̸͚̰̎e̷̡̯̫̮̱̹̮̦͆̾͑y̴̛̤̦̩̞̋̏̈͜ ̷̛̳͓̙̥̝̝͙̀̇̌͊͌͋̀m̷̻͈̗̳̯̽͛̀̇͛͠͝ḁ̴̡̦͎̟̥͈̈́͗̓̒̈̄͝n̴̮̦̈́̓̌̇̎.̸̜̦̎͛̾̎̉͝ ̶̤͚̭͌̕Ḧ̶̯͎̤̺̦̮̟͕́͝ǫ̶̛͓͓̞̬͖̘͛̆̉̋ͅw̷͖͇̼͎̞̒͑͆̀̈́͋͠’̶̪̇͘s̸̨̮͇̝̘̗̻̭̍͛͒̑́̒ ̷̹͛̌́̀͝l̴͔̳̙͉͋̿̆̓͒͠i̴̤̻̫͑̍͒̀̑̃̿͐f̸̢̱͖̫͍͍̪̾͘e̸̜͎̦̖͆̾?̶̢̡̤͖̦̺̒͝ ̶̠̩̥̆Ï̶̠̞̮͙̳ ̴̨̮̘͔̮̘̀̽̏̓͘̚w̷̮̰̠̫̩̺͋̏͒̈́͌̚͠a̴̙̣̐͝š̸͍͙̳̗͎̝̀̃̎̕͜ͅ ̶̤̊͠j̷̮̜̻̝̱̃̂͂͑̍͜ͅu̵̢̧͈͈͉͔̼͂͝s̶̨̤͈̩̳̄͂̿͒͠͝t̴̬̫̠̂̐͛̏͋ ̶̗̊̃͝͝a̸͕͛̉͆͠b̷̛̩̫̫̀̀̊͂o̵͕͕̝͗͊u̵͕͗̐̋̒̈́̕ẗ̷̛̺̞́̈́̂͊̕͘͘ ̷̢̮͈̗̤̆̀̂̋̆͘͜t̶̟̙̹͕̜̋̽ò̴͕̮̼̖͈̆ ̷͖̟͆̐͛̓͘ė̶̪̯͖͔̜͖̈́͘n̵̡̨̧̝̠̣̭̠̽̇͝͝͝d̶̗̩̫̼̖̣̝̒ ̴̛͎͍̙̗̣̼͈́̽͐̾͌̕i̵̧̧̫͉̬̼͜ţ̴̋̀̌̈́́́͊͘,̶̙̹̖̓̂̿̏̍͊̌ ̵͓̤̯̼̹͇̈́̉̚͠ḃ̷̖̱̝̤͚̹̫̈́̃ͅú̶͓͙͉̼̖̑̊̍̐̄̚ţ̴̦̟̹̤̃͛͝ ̶͔̭̹̐t̴̡͈͈̮̿h̸̛̼͈͚̎̈́̾̍̂͘̕á̴̯̩̝̦͓͑̏̈̍͝t̶̢̰͇̗͖̥͕̤͘ ̵̧̬̖̃̑͝c̵̢̨͓̫̘̼̘͌͐̂̓́̌͗͘͜à̶͎̑͒͆n̴̩͉̦̂ͅ ̶͇̤̜̤͂̄͆̄͝w̸̧̨̨̖̭̣̖̙̒͛̿͝ä̴̺͍͇̦́͗̄̓̌̇̓̍i̵̻̫͒̉ț̶̰̜̥̘̤͕͑͜.̴̼̜͆̓
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>>558489297
How and why? It set her up to grow as a character.
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>>558489408
>>558489529
(Movie is eh but I always liked that line.)
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>>558489378
How about instead of Sonic leading the team, it's Blaze. In a more narrative focused medium, Sonic and Shadow would be like Godzilla where they get less screen time than the others but ultimately save the day in the end and do it looking cool as fuck.
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>>558489598
Ok seriously, what is going on?
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>>558488070
Great character but she would be greater if she was allowed to be in a real romantic relationship with Sonic
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>>558489815
KEK
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>>558486319
Mimic being a bigot would be in character. The dude radiates incel chud energy.
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>>558488573
>>558488792
The short answer: It depends on who's writing him.

The long answer: Joker's character has varied from age to age. So much so that they did a storyline called "The Three Jokers" to attempt to explain this despite the average reader understanding that DC rebooting its timeline means not every version of the character is the same. Take picsreel for instance, New52 Joker (written by Scott Snyder) is a super edgy "I torture people for fun" edgelord. Golden Age joker was a cold criminal who murdered for financial gain. Silver Age was a goofy motherfucker. Bronze age was the guy you saw in the Bruce Timm Batman cartoon except deadlier cause the comics don't have to be edited for television. Add that with different writers having different interpretations of the character and things will vary. Especially with the long history of Batman comics.

Oh and to answer your question of whether or not there were multiple Harleys: Maybe. I don't think Scotty or anyone else ever followed up on this.
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>>558489571
>She greases the wheels of lots of stories and is pound for pound more valuable than Tails and Knuckles.
Gonna have to agree.
>is stupid strong like Knuckles
>underdog who wants to prove her worth like Tails
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>>558489571
>She works better as a support
Exactly.

>>558489623
This talk of character growth is always cumbersome because of the mascot debuff, and I think these character arcs have been largely effected conversation about the characters in an unproductive way.

Amy is the love interest and works better as a emotional supportive core rather than an active participant in the brawls. Having characters try to fill multiple hats just leads to them losing a core identity when it comes to how they relate to other characters.
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>>558488070
Minnie Mouse + Ariel.
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>>558489859
They are using a cursed text generator


. S̷̨͍̫̪̾͗̔͆̽̏͛͗̍͊̉̿̋͗̾̎̕ë̴̬̜̠̝́̽͊̐͊͑͛̇̾̀̓̃̓̋͂̊̎̊̒̃̍́̀̕͠e̸̢̪̬͉̩̝͍͕̝̤͖̩͔̟̓͑̐̒̂̀̈́̑͑̽̓̐̎̓̂͛̚͜͝ ̵̨̢̨̛̟̭̠͔̞̙̤̦̗͉̱̜̺͚̳̦̭͑̑̽͛̍̏̎̈́̉̔̐̆͘ͅh̴̨̢͔̖̳̤͍̝͕̦̮̩͎̰͓̪̻͎͚̯̞͍̻̘̭̫̮͌̄͛̀͋̀͆̈́̆͂͜͜͝ͅo̵̡̢͕̗̥͕̯̝̤̱̜̻͇͚͚̣̤̤̮͔̭͙̞̘̼͕̍͐̆̈́̈͜͝ẅ̴̧̨̡̨̨͙̯̠̪͍̳̘͍̙͍̠͚̥͔̚ ̷̢͙͓͖̝̬͈̹̥̌́e̶̡̢̨̦͖̠̗̭͍̱̼̖̩͈̝͚̰͕̟̬̩̬̪͚͙̻̹̦̱͙̜͕̹͐̑͗̂̓̈́͂͊̇̽̏̓̔̇͑̏̒̄̑̎̿̓͌͗͗͒́̑̈́͘͝͠ą̷͖͕͈͍̼͎͉̘̤̰͈̜̘̼̊̂͒̒̍̍͝s̴̡̢̢̢̛͉̫̫̻̳̻̜͇̮͓̖̺̣͎̞̤̤̝̻̺͊̍̂̓́̂̓͑̀͊̔̇̀̽͌͊͂̑̉̐͘͜͝͝ͅý̵̨̨̳̭̪̦̣͍̒̋̊̔̇̃̏̄̀̇̓̃̊̔͆̊̾͐̚͝ ̴̧̛̩͓̞͉̥͖̫̰̮͚̞͇͔̳̦̩̣̻̖͍̳̏͂͒̑͊̿̓̔̋͜͝͝i̵̧̛̛̬̞̦͕͇̰̰̒̏̎̍̂̃̄̉͂̊̄̐͘͜͠͠t̸̹̼͉̫̊͗̌̎̃̋̽͐̓̎͂͜͝ ̷͖̪̞̩͉̤͖̤͆̋̍̉̏̐̑̑̍ḯ̴̦̹͓͍͓̭̊̔̾̌̈̃̏͂̐̽͌́̈́̒̇͊͌̂̽́̈́͑̿̋̿̾̚̕͠s̸̡̨̛̛̖͈̪͍͚̪̤̫̖͈̮̥̞͈̦̺̱͓͎̱̦̎͂̎̽̊̑̇̈̂̓͌͋̄̈́͑͜͜͝͠͝?̸̨̨̢̭͔͉̣̳̜̗̼͓̘̯͇͎̭͖͎̗͎͈͕̥̙͖͚̹̞̬̱̣̒̋̒̾̋̂̈́͌̾̔
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>>558489910
How do you figure
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>>558489815
KEKAROO
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>>558486330
Sage runs on magic bullshit holo-tech like Nicole, she basically manifests physically with inconsistent rules regarding physics.
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>>558490051
So flat for someone so hot
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For the sake of the sol empire i must obtain Bowsers seed
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>>558489951
This.
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People are really arguing about if Sonic is immortal
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>>558490124
Stay away from Luigi's husband.
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>>558490172
HE'S THE WIND
THE WIND IS ETERNAL
THE WIND LIVES FOREVER
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[Insert picture of whisper banging on a Burger King here]
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>>558489997
There would be more story-telling opportunities that allow her to progress as a character
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>>558490124
you're the one that requested blaze flirting with bowser aren't you
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What if Bowser was Blaze's father?
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>>558489951
>Picrel
Built to be wrecked by Bump (which would upset Mimic!)
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>>558489975
I can understand but sa1 was a different time. It set her up to be more capable of contributing to the action which we saw in the following games.
I dont get where the confusion is.
I dont see why her being an emotional supportive character means she cant contribute to the action. These arent mutually exclusive.
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>>558490314
Anon it’s because she’s a girl and she’s not Rouge or Blaze
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>>558490314
There is not confusion, I'm simply expressing my viewpoint. She can do both, but I don't think she can do both effectively.
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Not here for shipping or porn talk but here is a picture of whisper in Valentine’s Day clothing. I take requests too.
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>>558490581
Surge shittily painted blue to resemble Sonic and played for comedic effect
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>>558490529
Why though. I have yet to see an explanation for how her having a baseline of contribution to action gets in the way of anything.
Should Tails not fight noe because he is the smart tech guy? Wot.
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Amy should be a girlboss.
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>>558490721
Anon, it’s because she’s a girl. How do you not realize this? It’s so thinly veiled it’s actually skull crackingly obvious.
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>>558489910
Just sell it with visual cues
>Sonic's arm around her waist
>Amy's leaning on Sonic's shoulder when sitting together
>sonic has his arm around her
Just small things. Don't need to make a big deal about it. Sonic doesn't, he's just chill. Amy probably would though.
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>>558490750
Shut up, Ian
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>>558490581
anon using sage as a surfboard, as sloths are good at swimming
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>>558490721
I've already said that I think it's a better utilization of her character because it gives her a more defined and unique place in the group dynamic.
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>>558490831
That’s what I was thinking of but it would also be nice to see them going on dates in other media like comics and animations. Those kinds of formats work very well for that
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>>558490581
Girls’ night out with Amy, Blaze, and Rouge (as friends; not trying to feed into shipfaggotry)
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>>558490831
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>>558490581
Jewel and Charmy staring each other down/giving each other death glares (beetles and bees are natural enemies)
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>>558490279
No it's actually some sort of a pair since Bowser likes princesses and breaths fire
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>>558490983
How is it less defined because she contributes to action at a baseline?
Every other character does ans we arent worrying about them not being defined. Why single out Amy, the character with a Hammer?
>>558490820
That alone is insufficient. I have my doubts they would say this for Blaze for example.
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>>558489964
Simply untrue. She’s not as strong as Knuckles, and she’s never had a motivation of “proving herself” she simply wants to love and be with Sonic. She’s the love interest, that’s her role
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>>558491394
Blaze is not entirely a traditionally feminine character so you can’t concern troll the same way effectively, Anon.
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>>558489961
I always feel like trying to explain stuff in ongoing comics with multiple writers is a fools game but that's just the fault of editors who are incapable of correcting their writers.
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>>558491361
it’s bees and rocks who are natural enemies, as rocks are rocks
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>>558491452
>and she’s never had a motivation of “proving herself”
That is false, that's her motivation from SA1 to Heroes and it's directly tied to her love for Sonic because she wants to prove herself to him in order to win him over and impress him so he'd fall madly for her and stuff like that.
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>>558491394
>How is it less defined because she contributes to action at a baseline?
Because adding more paint to the mixture changes the color, and not always for the best.
>Every other character does ans we arent worrying about them not being defined
I actually don't like that.
>Why single out Amy, the character with a Hammer?
Gag hammer made into something more than it was supposed to be.
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>>558490831
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>>558467342
What's the point of Gemerl if they keep bringing back Emerl?
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>>558491682
Gemerl was in the Chaotix Files, Emerl wasn't.
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Empowered women are cute when they try to act tough, as if they can't be playwrestled onto the ground with one hand and spanked with the other
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>>558491661
There is nothing wrong with Amy or any leading lady love interest type being an action girl.

Being some damsel that always needs to be saved, is stupid. It makes one person look bad just to glorify another, and that's dumb.
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>>558491206
She's a victim
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>>558491802
>t. vanilla
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>>558491637
That’s not “proving yourself” that’s trying to win a mate romantically. Wholly different from Tails doing it
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Bun!
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>>558491480
I'm not concerned trolling. Im just waiting for an actual response that makes sense. I doubt they would say that about Rouge either.

>>558491661
>Because adding more paint to the mixture changes the color, and not always for the best.
What added paint? Her being an emotionally supportive character was introduced in sa2 along with her being able to contribute to the action. Its not some random addition added later.
>I actually don't like that
List every character then that you believe should not contribute to action besides Amy.
>Gag hammer made into something more than it was supposed to be.
The reason they gave it to her was so she could fight in a fighting game without just punching because that wouldn't be as feminine.
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>>558492103
Tails and Amy are the Sonic/Blaze to each other, everything about Amy is the exact polar opposite equivalent counterpart to Tails.

Being the kid-sidekick and the love-interest puts them in corresponding positions, complete with the same "underdog" narrative of having to measure up to and keep up with the hero they follow.
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>>558492223
>her being emotionally supportive character was introduced in SA2
Birdie and Gamma?
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>>558492135
In their defense, his corpse mysteriously disappeared in Forces...Also Silver showed up meaning they were doomed to lose.
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>>558492223
Sa1 not sa2
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>>558492135
Forces is the worst story ever told in this whole franchise
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>>558482662
>>558484176
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>>558486396
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>>558491206
>>558491981
>>558492105
Holy shit, STOP
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>>558492298
You know how you fix this? By giving Tails agency apart from Sonic. Amy at her core is gonna try to glue herself to Sonic under all circumstances. Tails is supposed to grow into his own hero who’s capable of finding meaning away from his hero. The meta era reversing this trajectory for him is the worst instance of character regression in the whole franchise by a landslide
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>>558490890
Sadly I can’t really do that, as there aren’t many references of sage online I can use for that subject.
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Sonic fucks Surge
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>>558492223
Anon I was saying he’s concern trolling, not you.
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>>558491818
I was asked my opinion, and I gave it. I see and understand your position and, for Amy at least, I don't agree.

>>558492223
>Its not some random addition added later
I didn't say it was, just that it's her stronger attribute.
>List every character then that you believe should not contribute to action besides Amy
Tails, Cream, and the Chaotix.
>The reason they gave it to her was so she could fight in a fighting game
Sounds more like she shouldn't have been there then, and more like she was included to be the token girl.
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>>558492690
Shut up I like his posts
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>>558492690
No
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>>558492829
>Cream is more of a combatant than Amy
Holy fucking gem
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>>558492758
Tails already lives by himself and does his own things as seen multiple times in Sonic Channel. Sonic and Tails go on adventures together because they like each other's presence, that's it
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>>558492929
Did I misread him? I don't think Cream should be in combat.
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>>558492829
>Tails
Tails is the Robin to Sonic's Batman, what the heck is wrong with you!?

He is the FIRST person who should contribute to the action after Sonic! If you don't want Tails to be an action character, YOU DON'T WANT TAILS TO EXIST AT ALL.

Do you even know who Tails is!?
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>>558492929
No I misread you. Apologies.
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>>558493025
She's Girl Tails, why wouldn't she be!?
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No one cares about psme
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>>558493032
Tails is yellow
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>>558492947
True
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>>558493245
Fuck I meant to reply to >>558493025 not to myself.
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>>558492829
>I didn't say it was, just that it's her stronger attribute
Then how is anything muddied? Clearly it isnt if it isnt her strongest attribute.
>Tails, Cream, and the Chaotix
Espio is a fuckin ninja.
>Sounds more like she shouldn't have been there then, and more like she was included to be the token girl.
Why does this matter? All the characters in this series that actually stick are intro tokens.
Tails, Eggman, Shadow, Amy, Knuckles. But they all got more development in Sa1 when the series went through its rebranding.
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>>558493323
Yellow-orange.

Because he is Sonic's sidekick, so his color compliments his, as the second player character. Who fights alongside Sonic.
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>>558492947
I’m talking about Sonic Team’s asinine insistence in later games that Tails is useless without Sonic in a real pinch
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perhaps "does machines" is an outdated archetype
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>>558493289
Shiro Maekawa cares
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I miss Maekawa so much bros
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>>558493505
I understand where you're coming from
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>>558493630
That's a racist statement
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>>558493390
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>>558493630
I don't

>>558493706(me)
Buuuuuut usefulness isn't just measured in combat

>>558493818
Cute
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>>558493032
Sonic isn't the traditional mentor, and Tails really isn't glued to Sonic. Really, both Amy and Tails are just super fans that can't leave their idol alone. Sonic's just come to accept their persistence.

>>558493261
Because every fuzzy animal creature doesn't need to be in the action.

>>558493459
>Then how is anything muddied?
Both aspects don't help the other shine.
>Espio is a fuckin ninja
His group largely doesn't utilize those skills outside of maybe stealth. They're lower stakes characters and do better in that environment.
>they all got more development
Not all of it for the better.
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>>558492135
Why did ST wank Sonic so hard in the late 2010's and 2020's?
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>>558493987
That’s a massive blunt
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>>558493861
This is stupid and there is really no point to it but when I saw it at the store I almost wanted to buy it so I guess it works lol
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>>558494004
Sounds like you don't like or care for any of the characters.
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>>558493915
Maekawa used Tails better than anyone after him
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>>558494160
If that's how you choose to see it.
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>>558494105
What if Tails was a Chaebol heir?
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>>558493915
But combat and action are part of who Tails is, even predating the tech and super intelligence. Take that away and you get the OOC bastardized husk in Forces
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>>558494278
What characters do you actually like?
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>>558494004
>Really, both Amy and Tails are just super fans that can't leave their idol alone. Sonic's just come to accept their persistence.
Thinking that Tails is still just a groupie and not actually Sonic’s sidekick is certainly an opinion.
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>>558494291
So Archie Tails?
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>>558492482
rip surge, she was green, now she’s blue, now she’s gonna die
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>>558494420
Mighty cock
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>>558494057
That’s not a blunt that’s a cigarette. Also, blunts are brown, because they are emptied out cigarillos.
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>>558494332
The only characters I don't really care for are Sticks, Infinite, Charmy, and Sage.

>>558494334
I was more commenting on how their initial meetings went. Sonic was just passing through and being his usual helpful self, then they just started following him.
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>>558493390
Aw! Tails and his cumsocks...
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>>558494664
>He doesn’t like Charmy or Sticks
HAVE YOU NO SOUL?
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>>558494241
I know but I have my issues with Maekawa still

>>558494331
>But combat and action are part of who Tails is
I know I'm not disagreeing with you, just saying that this narrative that Tails was completely useless throughout the 2010s is wrong because he contributed more than any other character besides Sonic himself in actually saving the world despite not engaging in combat
>even predating the tech and super intelligence.
Not really, those were always a part of his character

>>558494436
Chaebol, Korean ultra rich families
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>>558494438
Wow, that’s actually the most beautiful bobbutterbutt art I ever seen. Thanks.
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>>558494758
I don't dislike them, if that's any consolation. I understand them and what they're supposed to bring to the table, I simply don't pay much attention to it.
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>>558494664
>He doesn’t like Sage
BASED
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>>558494873
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>>558493915
>>558494773
You'll never be a lady
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>>558494223
I don't believe this.
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Hmm yes I think I will steal this Amy design for my own Sonic-like franchise because it makes my penis hard.
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Nega-Sonic: Blaze.
Nega-Tails: Amy.
Nega-Amy: Tails.
Nega-Knuckles: Rouge.
Nega-Blaze: Sonic.

Tails + Amy + Knuckles = Blaze.
Therefore...
Amy + Tails + Rouge = Sonic?
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>>558494773
Some people are too obsessed with combat
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>>558494773
nobody cares pedophile
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>>558494970
I still don't see the point of her inclusion, especially when they made her sympathetic. Giving Eggman regular subordinates at all just doesn't seem worth it.

Orbot and Cubot are there to poke fun at him, but you get the same thing if you had Eggman simply banter with the cast. They're fluff and not even good fluff.
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>>558494004
>both aspects don't help the other shine
Sure they do. Amy is a hands on kinda girl. She doesnt just preaching friendship speeches. These traits compound into a character like Ran Kotobuki who does similar things.
Also, what is Cream supposed to do then?
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>>558495384
I think Eggman having recurring subordinates isn’t necessarily bad but the way it’s executed is very meh for me
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>>558495161
Yeah I know?

>>558495304
How about Tails + Tails + Tails + Tails + Kitsunami?
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The two main things Tails needs to be, in order to properly function as Sonic's Sidekick, is this:

A. Straight Man that contrasts Sonic.
B. Combat Expert that contrasts the Straight Man side.
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>>558491102
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>>558495361
Cared enough to reply c;

>>558495350
I know right? It's not like Sonic is specifically about that
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>>558495620
KEKAROO
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Getting Rough and Tumble to work for you and then molesting them between jobs
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>>558494773
>>558495350
I mean, Sonic is an action series first and foremost, and Tails is an action character. Keeping him away from/useless within the action is a blatant mischaracterization
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRxvQmTTz5I
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>>558495807
based
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>>558495838
He looks like his dick needs to be sucked
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>>558495652
Did you just redraw or trace of the other one?
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>>558495838
Fuck off spamming pedophile
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>>558495816
It's also a game series so it's more important that the action is in the gameplay. I like action better when I'm in control. The Final Horizon (and all the recent classic releases) did well in that regard
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>>558495816
I know dude but it kinda depends on how you define an "action series" because having boss fights and characters fighting robots is just gameplay stuff kinda like... Any other platformer. By this logic Mario and Rayman would be "action series" too. I don't think it's this ultra inherent thing in the franchise to have anime battles or whatever that was something that was introduced in other games but again only in boss fights/gameplay contexts.

Anyways having stories that aren't focused on "action" isn't really a problem to me. Sonic to me is about going on adventures and that can mean lots of things. I agree that Tails should be allowed to engage in combat but he can still contribute in other ways
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>>558495273
Get in line.
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>>558490581
>>558491102
this but add Cream
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>>558495501
I can agree with that.

>>558495415
You can be hands-on in ways that don't involve combat, and I unfortunately don't know that Ran.
>what is Cream supposed to do then?
Nothing? I like Cream but she's sorta exemplary of the too many characters problem, especially again since they feel compelled to make her a combatant. What's worse is that she was also given that role without the staying power to make use of it most of the time.

I like Cream and find her focus arcs enjoyable, but Amy is expected to be around more by virtue of being the love interest and is supposed to have a much better connection to the main three than Cream.
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If there were more girls here I could avatarfag as Shadow with them and discuss how cute he is but nooo we're stuck with Tailsfags.
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>>558496347
My problem isn’t in having Tails contribute in non-action ways, it’s in portraying him as someone who’s incapable of fighting back like was shown frequently in Unleashed thru Forces. Even worse is the side effect of showing him as too scared or unsure of himself to even try to fight like the Chaos 0 scene, directly betraying his character at its core
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>>558480593
>CD Sonic was the most wind-like out of all of them. Having him wide eyed and all smiles was a mistake
Can we talk about how Shadow ruined this part of Sonic's personality
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>>558490581
Amy doing girlie stuff with Surge or otherwise them interacting in a friendly way where Surge looks kind of annoyed but is probably secretly enjoying having a friend
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>>558496656
Sounds like a (you) problem
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>>558496656
Tails is cuter than Shadow stupid krackwhore
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>>558496656
Just go to where there are more girls?
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>>558496656
I'm a girl anon and I love Shadow
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>>558496769
It is said Shadow took away Sonic’s coolness
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>>558490581
>>558496816
This but have Blaze as the other original close friend who’s skeptical and/or jealous.
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>>558496026
Yeah, I used it as a reference. I also added some extra flair.
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>>558496761
Yeah I agree with all that
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>>558496638
>You can be hands-on in ways that don't involve combat, and I unfortunately don't know that Ran
But the whole deal with her fighting Zero ties directly into it. How can you argue otherwise.

I agree Cream is kinda...extra flavored, but the idea with the character was Amy was active and Cream was passive.
We just gonna retire her now? People just got her back lol.
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>>558490581
Sonic and Amy with their colors swapped as a gag and they both look confused or outright mortified
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>>558496919
Nah uh. Shadow is cuter than Tails. Even Sonic says he's the ultimate cuteness. Yellow is the color of pee.
Tails will never outdo Shadow's gap moe.
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>>558497132
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>>558497132
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>>558496638
Cream is the Tails to Amy's Sonic. Her purpose is giving Amy her own space beyond just Sonic.
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>>558496086
>sees kit
>thinks about porn
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>>558496656
Too bad lol. I hope some more Shadowfags show up for you though :)
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>>558496769
That portrayal of Sonic was already on it's way out before Adventure. In S3&K they made him softer and goofier in his base form but more stoic in his super form. I think it was in SA2 where the distinction was lost
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>>558496769
>>558496950
I like the theory someone here had awhile back that Sonic was originally much more like Shadow (cold, distant, not very friendly, kinda like Fleetwaynic), but grew out of that after gaining true friends like Tails and Amy. Whereas Shadow had Maria taken away and reverted back to his distant self
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>>558496950
Shadow was introduced in 2001, Sonic didn't lose his coolness until a decade later, during a time Shadow wasn't even relevant
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>>558490581
Lanolin meeting Sally (in the style of the Spider-Man pointing meme)
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>>558497176
>Yellow is the color of pee.
Are you sure you want to take it in that direction? Shadow is hemorrhoid colored
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>>558497176
Black and red is the color of my shit after bad Taco Bell
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>>558497139
>But the whole deal with her fighting Zero ties directly into it. How can you argue otherwise.
I don't see it as the right decision.
>the idea with the character was Amy was active and Cream was passive
>We just gonna retire her now? People just got her back
I can only speak from my perspective. As I said, I like Cream but she's never really given much of a chance to really highlight her relationship with Amy. In a lot of ways she still feels like filler.

>>558497205
Which is never really capitalized on. Except in maybe Sonic X.
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Sonic games are fun



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